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normandb
January 19th, 2005, 11:00 AM
Do you have any updates on what projects they are doing or going to do in the Bay City by Public Estates Authority. I've seen a lot of constructions going on in the bay city everytime i ride the LRT..yes you read it right 'LRT' but i dont know what type of building or establishment that they are doing because i did'nt have time to check it out. I can see it inside the LRT so it must be huge or tall.

renell
January 19th, 2005, 11:14 AM
From what I know there's quite a number of developments, one huge, but nothing tall... yet.

normandb
January 19th, 2005, 11:35 AM
im hoping that it's development will syncronize to the development in Bonifacio Global City. I cant wait to see the skyline of Bay city by the bay. i hope it will happen in our generation.

renell
January 19th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Isn't Mall of Asia in Bay City? I seem to generalise the reclaimed land as all "Bay City".... is it?

normandb
January 21st, 2005, 09:44 AM
Informations in this thread can be at www.pea.gov.ph

The Bay City (Boulevard 2000) is a priority government infrastructure designed to change the skyline of Metro Manila for the 21st century.

INTRODUCTION

The reclaimed area along the coast of Manila Bay consisting of approximately 1,500 hectares comprises the Bay City. The entire area which covers the stretch of Roxas Boulevard from the Cultural Center of the Philippines to the Coastal Road – Las Pinas area, including its shoreline, is divided into six component parts. These form a potentially integrated planned community.

The seven components are under the jurisdiction of four cities and a municipality. These are the cities of Manila, Pasay, Paranaque, Las Pinas and the Municipality of Bacoor.

The transformation of the reclaimed area will be realized with the cooperation of some of the major players in large scale property development. These are Tan Yu of Asiaworld, Henry Sy of SM, Inc., George Ty of Metrobank Group of Companies, the R-1 Consortium composed of Jan de Nul N.V., TOA Corporation of Japan and D.M. Wenceslao and Associates, Inc., and Jacinto Ng of the Manila Bay Development Corporation.

http://www.geocities.com/metro_manila_philippines/baycity.jpg

DEVELOPMENT BY ISLAND

Cultural Center of the Philippines
The 77 hectare CCP Complex is under the jurisdiction of two cities, Manila and Pasay. Along the Roxas Boulevard, the complex is divided into two zones, an Art Zone and a Commercial and Entertainment Zone. The general objective is for the Commercial Zone to generate income that would subsidize the Art Zone. Current locators in the area aside from the CCP are the Manila Film Center, Folk Arts Theatre, Philippine International Convention Center, Philippine Plaza Hotel, Coconut Palace, Ferry Terminal and Star City among others.

Financial Center Area Complex
The 77 hectare area is where the GSIS/Senate Complex, PNB Complex and World Trade Center are located. Other landowners in the area include SSS, DTI and PNCC. Some of the interim uses include the site for the Boom na Boom and some restaurants in the area.

Central Business Park, Island A
CBP 1 A located across the busy Baclaran area covers a total area of about 200 hectares. The major property owners are SM, Inc., Metrobank Group of Companies, MBDC and PEA.

In the SM property, the sprawling SM Corporate Offices which can accommodate some 3,000 employees had been completed and now occupied mostly by SMI’s employees. In the adjacent area, foundation works for the Mall of Asia had been completed and almost completed is the construction of the parking buildings in the north and south wings of the mall. The installation of electrical facilities including park lights in the promenade near the bay is on-going. SM constructed the Shrine of Jesus Church.

In the Metropolitan Park owned by the Metrobank Group of Companies, the newest establishment is the Manila Doctor’s College, a nursing and allied medical training/educational institution. The school which could accommodate some 3,000 students was completed in March 2004 and started operations in May 2004. Other establishments in the area include the Toyota Showroom, Le Pavilion, Metrobank Branch, `Bay Garden Condominiums, Petron Gas Station and the Blue Wave complex of restaurants and eateries.

In the 5 hectare area of MBDC, almost complete and ready to operate is the Jetti Gas Station.

PEA has allowed the use of its Promenade for selected affairs, such as Pyrotechnics Display, drag races, affairs of other government offices, i.e., Supreme Court. The Promenade is open to the public in the mornings during weekdays and for the whole day during week ends.

Central Business Park, Islands B & C
The 204 hectare area is predominantly for commercial use with recreational, residential, institutional, parks and promenades and utilities usage. Current locators are PriceMart and Shell Gas Station. Some 64 hectare area was turned over to the Department of Finance through a MOA. DOF’s area will be the location of the new Nayong Pilipino. The developer of the property is R-1 Consortium.

Central Business Park 11
This 43 hectare area was sold by PEA to the Manila Bay Development Corporation through public bidding in 1988. Current locators in the area include the Uniwide Coastal Mall and Petron Gas Station.

Asiaworld (First Neighborhood Unit)
The 183 Marina Properties is divided into four sections, the low density residential areas of Marina East and South, mixed use high density residential/commercial area and low rise townhouse development. The centerpiece of its development is the Golden Bay Condominium Project. Tan Yu’s Asiaword Properties, Philippines acquired the Marina Properties from NDC in 1988.

Centennial City (Three Island)
The vision for the area is to develop the three islands into an up-market townhouse subdivisions and mid-rise residential blocks and subdivisions which will be complimented by retail arcades, recreational and office developments on the site. The planned recreational facilities include a championship golf course and a main waterfront development.

renell
January 21st, 2005, 09:46 AM
hm... if i can find you those photos showing Bay City i'll post it here, it speaks for itself

renell
January 21st, 2005, 09:58 AM
oh here's one of it. could be the only one, there's just so much aerials.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/93mmaerial.jpg

mysaong03
January 21st, 2005, 11:09 AM
i object to this reclamation, not only coz of biological reasons & the scandal, but look at what happened now, its stil largely empty, & i believe it will take forever for them to develop the area coz investors prefer other better locations like bgc & filinvest....:sleepy:

normandb
January 21st, 2005, 11:42 AM
I think it is great if they will start to develop first the BAY CITY then next the FILINVEST in Alabang so there will be skyline in the south, then lastly the Bonofacio Global City. If Bay City will be first everything in Metro Manila will change. Imagine a skyline by the bay just like the other world renown cities in east asia like hongkong and singapore. What do you think?

@mysaong03. i think it is good that the gov't reclaimed the area. because if they dont many poor muslim shantys from mindanao who are vendors in baclaran and quiapo will take over the place. you dont know what is happening in the place right now. It's an eye sore everytime i see the place because it became a muslim community and we all know that muslims in metro manila is very different from muslims from malaysia or indonesia. i said different because these muslims came from a land (mindanao) where there is too much violence and they are use in that knid of life. many of them lack of education and sanitation. If ever the gov't did not reclaimed the area manila bay will also be an eyesore because you can see the street people of roxas boulevard living in the water (i mean it literally, they live on the water) with their improvised floating shanty house. i guess you never seen this place before? Now that the area has been reclaimed everything is changing from worst to better.

renell
January 21st, 2005, 01:18 PM
who are "they"? from the looks of it Bonifacio Global City will be much more developed earlier, way way earlier than Bay City. You already have a number of residential projects in BGC, an office tower, an recently a new mall. However if you look at it and BGC the former is much more bigger. Then there's also Ortigas which still has the potential to rival Makati for its skyline

I'm not expecting too much from Bay City, at least in the near future. Skyscrapers seem hard to come by, phils developers cant fork it out like Dubai, and like that newest Burgundy development, it doesn't seem like they will be putting 30 storey buildings. Perhaps the arrival of Mall of Asia will spur some development.

kiretoce
January 21st, 2005, 04:16 PM
With all these reclaimed land from Manila Bay, it's starting to look like what the city of Tokyo, Japan did when it inched its way out into Tokyo Bay. :)

Solblanc
January 21st, 2005, 06:29 PM
@ncbmandy: err, there are loads of wealthy muslims in MM (like the pearl traders and the children of the royal families who study in ateneo and the like) its rather ignorant to generalize like that, considering muslims don't constitute a significant fraction of our slum population.

jbkayaker12
January 21st, 2005, 09:15 PM
ncbmandy

Your generalizations re: Muslims doesnt help fan out the ignorance toward a group of people with a different religion than yours. Worst yet, you even compared Philippine Muslims with that of Indonesian and Malaysian Muslims which I am sure you know very little.

Grow up!!

Jon

normandb
January 22nd, 2005, 12:35 AM
@jbkayaker12 and solbkanc. First of all i want you know that i am an AETHEIST. I'm not talking about the slums of other places in mm. im talking about the slums in manila bay. it seems that you have not seen the place (slum) in bay city yet. why dont you go there and see it for yourself. Those are community of poor muslims. I am not generalizing that all fil. muslims are like that. this is not about religion. i'm stating facts and reality. i am not against muslim. i'm just stating that slums in manila bay were been a colony of poor muslims and that is a fact anybody who saw the place will agree with me because it is true in fact they even put a mosque in that area so that authority will not going to demolish them and they said that it is a religious place because there is a mosque. it seems that the only moslem you know are the rich one, well they constitute to just a fraction of filipino community in manila. maybe you come from a very wealthy family so you only know the rich one in your kind. why dont you roam the muslim community and metro manila. Again, i am no against moslem, this thread is not about religion, i just stated facts in this thread. PEACE to both of you. i am not ignorant. there is internet and every facts can be browse in the internet you dont need to go the other country just to compare certain places or community. Thanks.

tyronne
January 22nd, 2005, 01:33 AM
im just curious, what's this structure on the reclaimed land?
http://internet.ggu.edu/~tragudo/asiaworld.jpg

renell
January 22nd, 2005, 02:13 AM
^ I think that's the (old?) Uniwide Coastal Mall. At least that's the only sizable structure on the other side of Roxas after the CCP complex.

tyronne
January 22nd, 2005, 02:13 AM
oh ok, thanks.

Solblanc
January 22nd, 2005, 05:46 AM
It's an eye sore everytime i see the place because it became a muslim community and we all know that muslims in metro manila is very different from muslims from malaysia or indonesia. i said different because these muslims came from a land (mindanao) where there is too much violence and they are use in that knid of life. many of them lack of education and sanitation.

then you should have worded this a bit more carefully. I hate political correctness as much as the next person, but statements like this tend to offend people. I myself am not muslim, and it managed to offend me. I was just pointing out that there are a lot of wealthy and middle class Filipino muslims abound in Metro Manila, since your statement was a rather broad generalization. The muslims here also have their own gated villages, you know. Saying the place is an eyesore because there are muslim squatters is one thing. Saying that the place is an eyesore because its a muslim community is another.

I know you didn't mean to offend, but please, word things a little more carefully.

Edmundtanso
January 22nd, 2005, 06:01 AM
wow! that's a huge potential for growth there in the future! i beleive once the economy gets better and we will continue to get a better leader, this reclaimed land would be built with skyscrapers.....

normandb
January 22nd, 2005, 06:05 AM
sorry to those people especially muslim fils. that i offended in my previous post i dont mean to offend you. sorry...PEACE...

normandb
January 22nd, 2005, 06:09 AM
The development in the area is ongoing but at a very slow pace. let us give it 10 to 15 years more time and for sure it will rival the skyline in makati and ortigas.

jbkayaker12
January 22nd, 2005, 09:30 AM
@jbkayaker12 and solbkanc. First of all i want you know that i am an AETHEIST. I'm not talking about the slums of other places in mm. im talking about the slums in manila bay. it seems that you have not seen the place (slum) in bay city yet. why dont you go there and see it for yourself. Those are community of poor muslims. I am not generalizing that all fil. muslims are like that. this is not about religion. i'm stating facts and reality. i am not against muslim. i'm just stating that slums in manila bay were been a colony of poor muslims and that is a fact anybody who saw the place will agree with me because it is true in fact they even put a mosque in that area so that authority will not going to demolish them and they said that it is a religious place because there is a mosque. it seems that the only moslem you know are the rich one, well they constitute to just a fraction of filipino community in manila. maybe you come from a very wealthy family so you only know the rich one in your kind. why dont you roam the muslim community and metro manila. Again, i am no against moslem, this thread is not about religion, i just stated facts in this thread. PEACE to both of you. i am not ignorant. there is internet and every facts can be browse in the internet you dont need to go the other country just to compare certain places or community. Thanks.

You need to read your post #9 again. @ Sol I agree with you.:)

Jon

renell
January 22nd, 2005, 09:47 AM
The development in the area is ongoing but at a very slow pace. let us give it 10 to 15 years more time and for sure it will rival the skyline in makati and ortigas.

i thought it has already been given 10-15 years? how long has since the reclamation of the land?

i'm skeptical to this place getting skyscrapers. the sudden boom of residential high-rises has been ongoing for quite some time, yet this place gets a measly Burgundy project.

absent-minded
January 22nd, 2005, 10:18 AM
come to think of it, I think I'd rather see multiple small Serendra-type developments by the bay... plus the cultural institutions and facilities of course. such as the arenas, convention centers, museums, and little harbor thing that was in the plans of Centennial City, I think. and the commercial zones and business parks. instead of huge scrapers... hehe... but I dunno.

ronnaveth
January 22nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
i think it is good that the gov't reclaimed the area. because if they dont many poor muslim shantys from mindanao who are vendors in baclaran and quiapo will take over the place. you dont know what is happening in the place right now. It's an eye sore everytime i see the place because it became a muslim community and we all know that muslims in metro manila is very different from muslims from malaysia or indonesia. i said different because these muslims came from a land (mindanao) where there is too much violence and they are use in that knid of life. many of them lack of education and sanitation. If ever the gov't did not reclaimed the area manila bay will also be an eyesore because you can see the street people of roxas boulevard living in the water (i mean it literally, they live on the water) with their improvised floating shanty house. i guess you never seen this place before? Now that the area has been reclaimed everything is changing from worst to better.
i agree

renell
January 22nd, 2005, 11:32 PM
come to think of it, I think I'd rather see multiple small Serendra-type developments by the bay... plus the cultural institutions and facilities of course. such as the arenas, convention centers, museums, and little harbor thing that was in the plans of Centennial City, I think. and the commercial zones and business parks. instead of huge scrapers... hehe... but I dunno.

Indeed, I agree. Given the space, they most likely will take advantage of it while it is there, and use it for yeah the new Nayong Pilipino, perhaps a sports complex, etc.

ThisFire
January 23rd, 2005, 02:38 AM
Manila Bay is becoming a revelation again. It is one of those places that seemed "done" but it can continue being revamped as it has been revamping in the past years. It should really remain a premier point of Metro Manila and to make its mark into the 21st century.

normandb
January 23rd, 2005, 08:32 AM
Bay city is really promising.

mysaong03
January 23rd, 2005, 10:43 PM
I think it is great if they will start to develop first the BAY CITY then next the FILINVEST in Alabang so there will be skyline in the south, then lastly the Bonofacio Global City. If Bay City will be first everything in Metro Manila will change. Imagine a skyline by the bay just like the other world renown cities in east asia like hongkong and singapore. What do you think?

@mysaong03. i think it is good that the gov't reclaimed the area. because if they dont many poor muslim shantys from mindanao who are vendors in baclaran and quiapo will take over the place. you dont know what is happening in the place right now. It's an eye sore everytime i see the place because it became a muslim community and we all know that muslims in metro manila is very different from muslims from malaysia or indonesia. i said different because these muslims came from a land (mindanao) where there is too much violence and they are use in that knid of life. many of them lack of education and sanitation. If ever the gov't did not reclaimed the area manila bay will also be an eyesore because you can see the street people of roxas boulevard living in the water (i mean it literally, they live on the water) with their improvised floating shanty house. i guess you never seen this place before? Now that the area has been reclaimed everything is changing from worst to better.

well iv been readin all of the posts in this thread and i jst hav to say this.

there is no need for this reclamation in the first place, coz during that time or even upto now, there still a lot of vacant lands in MM open 4 developments. i continue to object to it, coz its a failure!! their purpose of developing a new business ctr there could be very promising someday, but their appeal is presently losing to the more other attractive sites like BGC & filinvest, w/c had emerged only much later but already overtook the bay city by miles in terms of construction developments & attracting more developers, in other words, they failed in the competition....bayside properties arent even popular anymore, the Harbor Ctr is also struggling....& w/ so many competitors(BGC, fil, eastwood, metrocentro cubao of aranetas, greenhills, rockwell, etc), its definitely an endless wait, but since nanadyan na cya, we could only pray that our eco growth would be sustained for long:)

the muslim benefit thing is purely coincidental, the place is developing w/ or w/o them....arent we gettin too far??

the land scam is a pure coincidence as well, but its also fair to call that 'karma'

:sleepy:

normandb
January 24th, 2005, 12:40 AM
maybe your are right.

In my opinion, the bay city took so long to develop maybe because of the land location itself, they need to reclaime the land which took 10+ years to complete except the centennial city which is not yet reclaimed compare to BGC, Filinvest, Eastwood, where all they need to do is to land scape the area. But the bay city area is already showing signs of development. You can see the structures developing in the area. I noticed the cleanliness of the baywalk area of the Bay city and also the surface of the sea water in the area is clean unlike when it is not yet reclaimed we can see many floating trash because it is owned by the government and the government dont have fund for cleaning the area...Since the area was sold to the private sector i think the developer of the reclaimed area is doing great. Lets just hope for the best.

renell
January 24th, 2005, 03:00 AM
Promising, maybe.

Though what you said about "If Bay City will be first everything in Metro Manila will change. Imagine a skyline by the bay just like the other world renown cities in east asia like hongkong and singapore. " is stuff of dreams. That's really ridiculous because unlike Hong Kong and Singapore MM is not stuffed, and lacks space.

normandb
January 24th, 2005, 03:09 AM
yes i know that mm has lots of open spaces but i think it is also good in my point of view that every highrise building should be put in certain areas for instance ayala center, ortigas center, BGC, and bay city instead of spreading all this high rises in the metropolis. Ayala center is already crowded. BGC, Filinvest and Bay city, i think is the only open spaces where highrises should be build. A skyline by the bay is also good.

renell
January 24th, 2005, 03:45 AM
Makati's CBD maybe crowded (there is still spaces left for a couple of skyscrapers, not to mention you can demolish old Legaspi Village buildings to make way for new skyscrapers) but you forgot Rockwell, Eastwood and Ortigas Center. The latter is very much important as it is the country's second biggest skyline no doubt we will see more skyscrapers there. We already have a skyline by the bay. Again I say it Rockwell, Eastwood, Makati CBD, to an extent Ortigas all have benefitted from the rise of demand in residential high-rises, yet the reclaimed land gets 1-2 for all its land, can you explain to me is that promising? Right now imo it isn't but as seen with that overpriced road it is planned to be but then again a lot of plans in MM get scrapped so I remain pessmistic until plans become reality.

pau_p1
January 24th, 2005, 04:17 AM
well.. I guess... when SM Mall of Asia opens in full swing... the reclamation area may grow to promising site.... but they should have proper planning on it...

but I think, promising it may be, it will grow into full extent after a couple of decades pa.. since there is still low demand for high rise... Filipinos still opt to have low rise houses instead of living in buildings so there should be less demand for area in Bay City unless they plan big entertainment facilites and hotels on that land...

tyronne
January 24th, 2005, 04:27 AM
...unless they plan big entertainment facilites and hotels on that land...

don't they have this proposed las-vegas-like Entertainment City by Pagcor to be built on one of those reclaimed lands?

thomasian
January 24th, 2005, 04:49 AM
what happened to the proposed railway that will run from intramuros to Bay City?

renell
January 24th, 2005, 04:57 AM
don't they have this proposed las-vegas-like Entertainment City by Pagcor to be built on one of those reclaimed lands?

they had massive plans. I remember there was a large ferris-whee, roller coaster, so basically what you said. Also I remember two huge twin-towers in the bay. Where's that now.

@thomasian, man i didn' t know there was a proposed railway. Do you mean light-rail? monorail perhaps? I can't imagine PNR's running from intrams to the reclaimed land :lol:

normandb
January 24th, 2005, 05:09 AM
what happened to the proposed railway that will run from intramuros to Bay City?

i thought it is the extension of LRT line 1 that will pass through the Bay City.

pau_p1
January 24th, 2005, 05:14 AM
of MRT3? maybe?..

renell
January 24th, 2005, 05:22 AM
i thought it is the extension of LRT line 1 that will pass through the Bay City.

there's a stop in asiaworld, but the reclaimed land is huge I doubt you'd alight there to go to say, Mall of Asia.


MRT3 extending there would probably be the line that would serve Bay City should they decide to extend it, after completing the EDSA loop first.

normandb
January 24th, 2005, 05:24 AM
there's a stop in asiaworld, but the reclaimed land is huge I doubt you'd alight there to go to say, Mall of Asia.


MRT3 extending there would probably be the line that would serve Bay City should they decide to extend it, after completing the EDSA loop first.

If they are going to extend the MRT3 what will happen in the intersection along taft avenue corner edsa...i'm just wandering.

pau_p1
January 24th, 2005, 05:24 AM
I dug up the old thread that about this Bay City (Centennial City) by edmund

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=112172&page=1

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/5262865-L.jpg
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/5262866-L.jpg

http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/5262867-L.jpg
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/5262868-L.jpg
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/5262869-L.jpg

renell
January 24th, 2005, 05:35 AM
Those plans seem to be in the reclaimed land that has not been reclaimed yet.....

pau_p1
January 24th, 2005, 08:29 AM
ohh... di pa ba... so this would that part of the bay that is along the coastal road?

renell
January 24th, 2005, 08:34 AM
From the looks of it... what on earth is that large turnpike doing in Manila Bay? is that where the NAIA expressway and Coastal Road meet? :?

thomasian
January 24th, 2005, 01:00 PM
i thought it is the extension of LRT line 1 that will pass through the Bay City.

no, I'm sure that I've read a plan before for an LRT line from Intramuros to Bay City passing through Roxas blvd.

Oh well, I guess they already scrapped the plans for that railway so there's no news about it anymore.

rico
January 24th, 2005, 01:03 PM
seeing those pictures again after a long long time makes me excited again about the prospects of this brand new manila bay city.

time to invest! :D

thomasian
January 25th, 2005, 02:45 AM
From PEA's website: http://www.pea.gov.ph/OBC-Manila%20Bay%20Reclamation.htm

OBC-MANILA BAY RECLAMATION MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM

Three foreign companies tied up with the Public Estates Authority (PEA) for the development of a $436-M mass transit system that would link Manila’s Old Bilibid to Bay City project in the Manila Bay reclamation area.

The proponents are suggesting the use of rail mass transit systems to improve the traffic situation in Metro Manila because of its inherent advantage over expressways, particularly with respect to transport capacities and environmental impact.

The line, which will connect the Old Bilibid and Bay City, covers 13 kilometers. The project’s alignment, which will include 12 stations, will traverse through Intramuros and Roxas Boulevard, then finally terminating in Bay City.

normandb
January 25th, 2005, 02:53 AM
From PEA's website: http://www.pea.gov.ph/OBC-Manila%20Bay%20Reclamation.htm

OBC-MANILA BAY RECLAMATION MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM

Three foreign companies tied up with the Public Estates Authority (PEA) for the development of a $436-M mass transit system that would link Manila’s Old Bilibid to Bay City project in the Manila Bay reclamation area.

The proponents are suggesting the use of rail mass transit systems to improve the traffic situation in Metro Manila because of its inherent advantage over expressways, particularly with respect to transport capacities and environmental impact.

The line, which will connect the Old Bilibid and Bay City, covers 13 kilometers. The project’s alignment, which will include 12 stations, will traverse through Intramuros and Roxas Boulevard, then finally terminating in Bay City.

This transit system will be parallel with the existing LRT Line 1.

renell
January 25th, 2005, 05:12 AM
Right. Does PEA have authority over the whole of that newly reclaimed land? Bay City Asiaworld it's all confusing :?

As for the mass-transit, I'm not too sure about having something.. bulky like Line 1 along Roxas boulevard. Though it is good should future developments (sports complex, Mall of Asia, another Nayong Pilipino) arise

Edmundtanso
January 25th, 2005, 05:36 AM
wow....this planned transit would surely boost the development in the bay reclamation, maybe they could have a subway wheh it reach roxas blvd =)

normandb
January 25th, 2005, 05:43 AM
On my understanding if I am not mistaken I think the PEA is the government body that helps to sell the government property in reclaimed manila bay to private developers. The reclaimed land right now is already sold to the private entities so i dont think that PEA has still the authority once the structure and the area is develop as long as they will follow the zoning made by the PEA. The work of the PEA is to reclaime the land then zone it and then sell it to private entities. Bay City is composed of Cultural Center of the Philippines, Financial Center Area Complex, Central Business Park Island A, Central Business Park Islands B & C, Central Business Park 11, Asiaworld (First Neighborhood Unit), Centennial City (Three Island). These are all private entities and developer who bought the reclaimed land from the PEA except for Cultural Center of the Phils. and Financial Center Area Complex which is still owned by the government i think. CBP Island 1 A is owned by SM, Inc., Metrobank Group of Companies, MBDC and PEA. CBP Islands B & Cis being develop by R-1 Consortium. Central Business Park 11 is sold to Manila Bay Development Corporation. Asiaworld (First Neighborhood Unit) is sold to Asiaword Properties. Centennial City is not yet reclaimed so i think the bidding for the land will come as soon as the area has been reclaimed.

renell
January 25th, 2005, 06:32 AM
Interesting, thanks for that.

normandb
February 8th, 2005, 03:30 PM
Japan firm to put up Manila Bay Hospital

By LAWRENCE AGCAOILI
TODAY Reporter

Tokushukai Medical Corp., the owner and operator of the largest hospital chain in Japan, will start in April the construction of a 1,000-bed medical cum retirement facility worth P5.6 billion in a reclaimed area along the Manila Bay.

Outgoing Trade Secretary Cesar Purisima told reporters that the Japanese hospital would break ground on April 15 marking the start of the construction of the medical cum retirement facility in a 60-hectare complex in the area reclaimed by the state-run Public Estates Authority (PEA).

Last September, Purisima announced that Tokushukai Medical has decided to invest in the Philippines as part of the government’s campaign to transform the country as a major destination for medical tourism, as well as medical and retirement services.

Tokushukai Medical has over 160 facilities throughout Japan.

The company maintains 47 hospitals each with 190 to 600 beds and has a workforce of 16,000. It was established in January of 1973.

The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) believes that the Philippines has the potential to develop the health services sector into a $1-billion industry.

As part of the strategy, the DTI is pushing for the establishment of “medical zones” where foreign medical practitioners would be allowed to practice their profession.

This would make patients become more comfortable with the quality of care in hospitals in the country.

Countries such as Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore have already taken the lead in this field. Last year, these three countries were able to attract more than 600,000 patients and earn $500 million in revenues.

rmb
February 8th, 2005, 05:23 PM
good news. :) first step for Manila Bay.

KulasKusgan
February 8th, 2005, 05:34 PM
WOW! Pagnagkatotoo, talbog sila lahat. Pwede pang City vs City.

But parang there is something missing sa plano. cguro... a signature monument or landmark... say opera house of sydney or stat of liberty...

a00556425
February 8th, 2005, 09:23 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p2e0851c4003413e799824df919dd9c31/f5d6802c.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p9b8855b17712e4b860ee7ab4843ab7e1/f5d6802b.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p905ab100c06015c8fc3bd63f9c855af8/f5d68028.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p7238092e34e622a73e453b1fa8cf3b7c/f5d68026.jpg
Boulevard 2000http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid151/p2099528fd1e659806a83312a5814315e/f5d45d57.jpg

IsaganiZenze
February 9th, 2005, 01:58 AM
isn't this kinda in the way of the runway, so are they planning to make NAIA ala KAI TAK?

ThisFire
February 9th, 2005, 06:50 AM
I remember riding in a car while on Roxas and going past that open land area during my trip there last year. So much land and opportunity to develop it. Lots of promise that could go well with the usual but beautiful Roxas sites.

jbkayaker12
February 9th, 2005, 07:11 AM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p2e0851c4003413e799824df919dd9c31/f5d6802c.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p9b8855b17712e4b860ee7ab4843ab7e1/f5d6802b.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p905ab100c06015c8fc3bd63f9c855af8/f5d68028.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid150/p7238092e34e622a73e453b1fa8cf3b7c/f5d68026.jpg
Boulevard 2000http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid151/p2099528fd1e659806a83312a5814315e/f5d45d57.jpg

If those vacant reclaimed lands were properly planned and built, Metro Manila will have one of the best bay areas in the world. Huge!

Jon

renell
February 9th, 2005, 07:52 AM
isn't this kinda in the way of the runway, so are they planning to make NAIA ala KAI TAK?

good point that's why high-rises are impossible to be built here unless they bribe. but then again if its the govt whos going to reclaim this dont expect them to do it in the near-future dont reckon its in their agenda

IsaganiZenze
February 9th, 2005, 08:16 AM
okay...this is a dumb question, is this area reclaimed already or no, if not, they should not reclaim it, kinda weird, well they shouldn't build tall high rises anyways in reclaimed areas, bad during earthquakes, liquifaction! bad bad! Unless, they want buildings to tilt, lurch, and topple, then that's a good idea to do that! and no houses please, its bad enough to be to the side of the airport, imagine in the path of noisy engines! YUM! anywho, its a good idea for commerce though! so build up for sure! no bribery either! bad for image, bad for economy, just bad flat out!

SKYLINEPIGEON
February 9th, 2005, 08:48 AM
well i hope by the time that reclaimed area is filled with highrises government will shut down the aiport and open a bigger one outside the city

renell
February 9th, 2005, 08:57 AM
well i hope by the time that reclaimed area is filled with highrises government will shut down the aiport and open a bigger one outside the city

should ever Northrail be upgraded to a faster-speed train DMIA might be our new int'l terminal, the MIA complex will still be used so I really doubt that part being filled with highrises. PAF might still used it (philippine air force)

@IsaganiZenze, yeah i reckon you have a point since if we reclaim the land it may take a couple of more years added to the time it takes to reclaim to a bit of "settle" the land, adding trees to it etc.

normandb
February 9th, 2005, 10:52 AM
the bay city is already reclaimed except for the centennial area. the other reclaimed area is starting to develop. the centennial area which is at the end of the runway will not have highrises, it will be a combination of recreational parks and theme parks like nayong pilipino and condos.

IsaganiZenze
February 9th, 2005, 02:02 PM
cool, thanks...so i guess its reclaimed

IsaganiZenze
February 9th, 2005, 02:03 PM
well i hope by the time that reclaimed area is filled with highrises government will shut down the aiport and open a bigger one outside the city
well the closing of the airport I think will be far from today, they just "built" naia 3, its not even open! Also, DMIA is like so far....so we'll see....hope for the best....

normandb
February 9th, 2005, 03:04 PM
cool, thanks...so i guess its reclaimed

yes it is. look at post number 7 the photos shows the reclamation area. only the centennial city is not yet reclaimed.

a00556425
February 9th, 2005, 08:09 PM
They should of followed Fidel Ramos Plan to build the new NAIA III at Sangley Point, but I read that Joseph Estrada was against the plan saying that it would be to far for businessmen and would cost too much.

I think it would of been cheaper in the long run because they could of used the NAIA land for a business district like Fort bonifacio, and there would be no limit to the height of the reclaimed, and surounding areas of NAIA

a00556425
February 9th, 2005, 08:11 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid157/p5cff9339718e6bbbafa92c6f890701dc/f52f6b43.jpg
AsiaWorld City
This project should have been completed but, Gringo Honassan and his coup attempts against Aquino ruined it

tyronne
February 9th, 2005, 08:28 PM
^oh cool! i'll try to copy the zoning when i play SC4 later today :D

by the way, where is Sangley Point again? thanks --ty

kiretoce
February 10th, 2005, 12:27 AM
I think it's in Cavite, but I'm not 100% sure though. :)

absent-minded
February 10th, 2005, 03:54 AM
I think it's in Cavite, but I'm not 100% sure though. :)

it is in Cavite...! just did a quick Google search. I always thought it was somewhere up north near Subic and Clark... haha! cuz I thought it would be near DMIA...

umm... do you guys know which of those reclaimed "cities" the Japanese healthcare complex is gonna be put up in?

and OT - have you guys seen this reclamation project they're doing in Dubai? the future resort that is laid out on these man made islands that are shaped like a palm tree or something. that'd be awesome if something like that was put up in the Philippines! Cebu maybe...?

renell
February 10th, 2005, 07:51 AM
yeah Sangely Point is in Cavite, they have renamed it Cubi Point if I'm not mistaken.

IMO they should make good use of the space in what is the current reclaimed land before they start thinking about this Centinnial City.

ryanr
February 10th, 2005, 12:29 PM
^oh cool! i'll try to copy the zoning when i play SC4 later today :D


:lol:

@ lance - they will probably build the Japanese Hospital in the area near Toyota Manila Bay and SM Mall of Asia.

thomasian
February 10th, 2005, 01:06 PM
What about the proposed new Manila Doctors Hospital? Diba dun din sa area na 'yon itatayo yun.

ryanr
February 10th, 2005, 01:09 PM
:dunno: But for the Japanese Hospital, they said that it will be along Roxas Blvd.

jcb
February 10th, 2005, 01:19 PM
di ba nasa Sangley point ang isang pang hq ng Phil. navy

kiretoce
February 10th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Have you guys seen this reclamation project they're doing in Dubai? the future resort that is laid out on these man made islands that are shaped like a palm tree or something. that'd be awesome if something like that was put up in the Philippines! Cebu maybe...?

Yeah! I've seen a photo of that here on SSC, in one of the other forums. Pretty neat looking from an aerial perspective. :)

absent-minded
February 11th, 2005, 08:33 AM
:dunno: But for the Japanese Hospital, they said that it will be along Roxas Blvd.

oh... okay. I see. thanks! :)

renell
February 11th, 2005, 08:45 AM
di ba nasa Sangley point ang isang pang hq ng Phil. navy

Navy and Air Force if I'm not mistaken. Then the Marines in Ternate. I don't know the relevance of this but:D

Harry Potter China
February 11th, 2005, 12:17 PM
What's that reclaimed land further south of the Centennial City?

From the masterplan, where wil the reclamaton of land end along the bay...? Will it even reach Cavite City's peninsula or not?

Harry Potter China
February 11th, 2005, 12:18 PM
What's that reclaimed land further south of the Centennial City?

From the masterplan, where wil the reclamaton of land end along the bay...? Will it even reach Cavite City's peninsula or not?

renell
February 11th, 2005, 12:57 PM
Isn't Centennial City the reclaimed land that will be further south? :?

normandb
February 11th, 2005, 01:01 PM
What's that reclaimed land further south of the Centennial City?

From the masterplan, where wil the reclamaton of land end along the bay...? Will it even reach Cavite City's peninsula or not?


The Bay city will include the cities of Pasay City, Parañaque City, Las Piñas City and Bacoor Cavite. The start is from CCP Complex (Pasay City) and Centennial City (Las Piñas City and Bacoor Cavite).

ryanr
March 22nd, 2005, 06:26 AM
Developer beats SM, bags Bay City project

By CECILLE S. VISTO, Sub-Editor
Businessman Mariano Nocom last week won the right to develop a nine-hectare commercial park at the Bay City along Roxas Boulevard, beating the only other bidder, tycoon Henry Sy, Sr.

Mr. Nocom's Salem Investment Corp. bidded P111.56 per square meter to spruce up the baywalk, besting SM Investment Corporation's offer of P101.



The lessor, state-run Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA), had set the minimum lease at P83.33 per square meter.

With Salem operating the park -- to be called the Esplanade -- the government is guaranteed to get P1.9 million in monthly rentals as against P1.73 million had SM won.

PRA General Manager Teodorico C. Taguinod told BusinessWorld that SM Investment, which would list today at the Philippine Stock Exchange (PSE), wanted to negotiate with Salem for a possible joint venture of the prime property.

"I'm not sure if they have reached an agreement," he said.

SM is keen on developing the Esplanade as it is located at the Promenade area at the back of the SM Mall of Asia. Of the 8.57-hectare park, only 1.71 hectares is leasable. However, Salem is required to develop the remainder without cost to government.

Aside from Salem, Mr. Nocom also reportedly controls Dearborn Realty Corp., which built the Fiesta Shopping Center of state-run Duty Free Philippines near the Ninoy Aquino International Airport. He likewise owns Columbia Airfreight Complex Corp. and a shopping center in Quiapo.

As the winning bidder, Salem will operate the baywalk park for 10 years, with the lease contract renewable for another 10 years.

Mr. Taguinod said a seven-kilometer restaurant row would be put up at the baywalk, similar to the Roxas Boulevard project of Manila Mayor Jose Atienza. Spaces will be leased to concessionaires, with Salem directly supervising baywalk operations.

Development of the park will start next month. It is set to open in December. The baywalk is expected to attract more people to the reclamation area.

Last year, the Department of Finance (DoF) ordered PEA to come up with a five-year development plan for the Manila Bay Reclamation area.

The directive to put together a master plan for the 1,500-hectare Roxas Boulevard reclamation area was the first official order that Finance handed down since it took over PRA.

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo issued Executive Order No. 329 on July 19, 2004 transferring control over PRA to Finance, from the Department of Public Works and Highways.

PRA is the government agency responsible for integrating, directing, and coordinating all reclamation projects for and on behalf of the government.

Based on PRA's recommendation, the Bay City, its main project, will be divided into various zones: residential, commercial and office, and even entertainment.

Meanwhile, Mr. Taguinod said SM and PRA were looking into a possible partnership to develop a middle-income condominium within Bay City.

PRA will offer its land as capital. As part of the deal, SM will build PRA's building. The project is expected to be finished in eight years.

renell
March 22nd, 2005, 07:02 AM
woot woot.. more developments.

normandb
March 22nd, 2005, 07:23 AM
that is a good news. Another Baywalk will going to develop along the bay. In this case it is more spacious and longer compare to baywalk in Malate Manila.

jbkayaker12
March 22nd, 2005, 08:14 AM
I am definitely coming back January of next year. Manila will definitely be enhanced with this development. Its getting better year after year. Keep it up!

7 kilometer stretch of bars and restaurants, oh yeah something to look forward to.

Jon

amras
March 22nd, 2005, 12:55 PM
they should really make good plans before doing anything else... it's being developed in one of the best locations in the metro, so screwing things up is not an option... otherwise, this is something we have to look forward to! :)

ThisFire
March 22nd, 2005, 09:16 PM
they should really make good plans before doing anything else... it's being developed in one of the best locations in the metro, so screwing things up is not an option... otherwise, this is something we have to look forward to! :)


exactly!

pau_p1
March 22nd, 2005, 09:52 PM
Wow an Esplanade on Manila Bay... very nice... I hope it will be as beautiful as Singapore's Esplanade or the Opera House of Sydney or something much better... :D

absent-minded
March 23rd, 2005, 04:26 AM
great news...! seems like SM's development of the MOA is finally perking up interest in the area. seven kilometers of restaurants is crazy...! I hope this'll be nice. too bad it won't be done in time for the SEAG or something. hehe.. when will part of the SM-MOA open...?

ryanr
March 23rd, 2005, 08:03 AM
More good news:okay:

SM sets talks with Bay City developer

The SM Group will work with the firm that won the right to develop a nine-hectare commercial park at the Bay City along Roxas Boulevard after being beaten in the bidding for the property.

SM Investment Corp. Vice-Chairman Henry Sy, Jr. said in the sidelines of his firm's listing at the Philippine Stock Exchange yesterday that talks about a possible joint venture with Salem Investment Corp. are about to start.

Businessman Mariano Nocom, which owns Salem, last week won the right to develop the property after offering P111.56 per square meter, besting SMIC's bid of P101. With Salem operating the park -- to be called the Esplanade -- the government is guaranteed P1.9 million in monthly rentals compared to P1.73 million had SM won.

"We'll still have a discussion. They're good friends," Mr. Sy said.

He noted that the developer of the park will really have to talk with SM since the property is located at the back of Mall of Asia which SM is developing.

He also said SM had wanted to develop the park into a "classier" version of the Roxas Boulevard project of Manila Mayor Lito Atienza.

"We will improve on that to make it classier. That was a good concept of Lito Atienza. But because now that we see what are the things we could improve, we will improve on it," he said.

The property was bid out by state-run Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA) for a minimum of P83.33 per square meter. As the winning bidder, Salem will operate the park for 10 years, renewable for another 10 years. Development of the park will start next month and it is set to open in December.

PRA General Manager Teodorico C. Taguinod earlier said a seven-kilometer restaurant row will be put up at the baywalk. Spaces will be leased to concessionaires, with Salem directly supervising baywalk operations.

He also said SM Investment wanted to negotiate with Salem for a possible joint venture involving the property.

SM is keen on developing the Esplanade as it is located at the Promenade area at the back of the Mall of

Asia. Of the 8.57-hectare park, only 1.71 hectares is leasable.

Last year, the Department of Finance (DoF) ordered the Public Estates Authority (now named the PRA) to come up with a five-year development plan for the Manila Bay Reclamation area. President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo issued Executive Order 329 on July 19, 2004 transferring control over the PRA to the Finance department from the Department of Public Works and Highways.

The PRA is the government agency responsible for integrating, directing, and coordinating all reclamation projects for and on behalf of the government.

Based on the PRA's recommendation, the Bay City, its main project, will be divided into various zones: residential, commercial and office, and even entertainment. -- Jennee Grace U. Rubrico

a00556425
March 23rd, 2005, 08:07 AM
We need a president with an ambitous vision for the country like Fidel Ramos and Imelda Marcos!!!!
GMA is good but she should aim high, and create amazing legacy projects like Ramos!! GMA only has the MRT 7, LRT to Cavite, North Rail (started by Ramos, and was high speed rail during his administration), South Rail and RO-RO ferry system, and her intergrated top logistics center in the region (which will be a half-assed attempt by her based on the progress right now).

Even Imelda had an ambitous vision for the country when she built her legacy projects, although she should have carried out her dream of a State of the Art Megalopolis extending from Manila to the Pacific Ocean. (I'm obssesed with Imelda :) ,I've read every book about her in the Library, and I want to buy her movie :) )

I remember JDV created a 7 point wealth creation agenda which included expanded reclamation of Manila bay, Subic, Cebu, North Luzon (Ilocos, I think), and mindanao. But, there has been no news on the progress of his plans, so his plans might just be on GMA's desk collecting dust
:sleepy::sleepy:

And what about JDV's plans for a 2000 km mindanao railway???
This will probably never happen too.

Now, this is what I want GMA's legacy project to be, fill in Manila bay and create a superior city designed by the best engineers the Philippines has to offer, only after she reforms the constitution (which she promised to do) and scraps that nationalistic pride rule which restricts foreigners from owning land.
(if the masses oppose then just make this area the exception)
http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/81/00/reclamation.JPG
I also want her to build a maglev system in the country from Ilocos to General Santos, when we rake in the cash from mining and oil after we take over Sabah and the Spratleys Islands

renell
March 23rd, 2005, 09:21 AM
Gee.. I wouldn't wanna rain on your parade (cough cough government is near broke cough cough), but it sure is ambitious:)

However, I resent any plans to cover Manila Bay with land, soil and rocks and ruin some of them fishing industries in Cavite.

ryanr
March 23rd, 2005, 01:30 PM
What is the latest with the new commercial center in the CCP area? The one with the big plazas. We used to have renderings of it...but lately, we have been silent about the project.

ryanr
March 23rd, 2005, 01:34 PM
Now, this is what I want GMA's legacy project to be, fill in Manila bay and create a superior city designed by the best engineers the Philippines has to offer, only after she reforms the constitution (which she promised to do) and scraps that nationalistic pride rule which restricts foreigners from owning land.



I wouldnt want this to happen...too much environmental impact. The area you pointed out is huge. First, it would be too costly. Second, it wouldnt be practical. Third, as renell said, it would just ruin the fishing industries there. And lastly, it would interrupt with coastal processes and ecosystems. Bay City itself is already pretty massive. And look how small it is compared to your proposal.

Maglev in Mindanao is too ambitious. Actually Maglev anywhere in the country is too ambious. We cant even start with Northrail, much more with a maglev.

thomasian
March 23rd, 2005, 01:39 PM
You mean the Harbour View Square?

Still u/c but the first phase I think will be opening this year.

ryanr
March 23rd, 2005, 01:43 PM
Yeah...i think thats it. How big is it?

jbkayaker12
March 23rd, 2005, 02:02 PM
they should really make good plans before doing anything else... it's being developed in one of the best locations in the metro, so screwing things up is not an option... otherwise, this is something we have to look forward to! :)

Dont worry SM is not spending a considerable amount of money so Mr Peanuts can mess up their long term plans. Part of the reason why they want to co-develop Bay city is to protect their investments in the area namely Mall of Asia and their main corporate office among other things. :)

Jon

pau_p1
March 23rd, 2005, 02:37 PM
yeah... I wouldn't like to see most of Manila Bay being reclaimed.. specially that wide.... imagine how many mountains will be be demolished for this and yes the fishing industry will be affected, plus there isn't enough demand to fill up those spaces.... and I would rather reclaim lands for Cebu or other key cities of the country... Metro Manila is too congested and too crowded already....

and I wouldn't want foreigners to own lands as well... land is very scarce in this country and I wouldn't want to lease or rent on a land owned by a foreigner who can charge me a higher fee.... the Philippine soil is for Filipinos only..... foreigners can just lease or rent on them....

amras
March 23rd, 2005, 02:55 PM
and I wouldn't want foreigners to own lands as well... land is very scarce in this country and I wouldn't want to lease or rent on a land owned by a foreigner who can charge me a higher fee.... the Philippine soil is for Filipinos only..... foreigners can just lease or rent on them....

I agree. Some Filipinos don't even own lands in their own country, tapos bibigay pa natin sa foreigners...

a00556425
March 24th, 2005, 02:48 AM
So..... you guys don't like my idea....o.k. :sleepy:

People fish in Manila bay?? When I took the Super Ferry from Manila to GenSan it was black and stinky, and I saved a picture from the Vancouver Sun with a caption saying that people use it as their toilet and personal garbage landfill but they still bathe in it, it showed black water with garbage floating around with a rusted sinking ship and a handfull of people swimming in it. Are Manila clams really from Manila bay or is it just a name like Manila envelops?
http://www.deh.gov.au/heritage/programs/rnhp/images/coastal-pollution.jpg
(not the picture from the Vancouver Sun)

Did anybody see that movie Yamashita where they found the yamashita gold treasure and the Philippines became a rich country?? What if that happens in real life, but with oil, and natural gas!!

The Imelda books I've read all say that the Yamashita treasure has already been found and that Marcos led the search for the gold, but like all presidents and government officials, he mismanaged the treasure and it ended up in American and crony hands.

I don't see anything wrong with foreigners owning land!! Yeah, I guess their should be some restrictions but not a total ban.

I'm a Canadian citizen born in Canada but I can't own land in the Philippines, they should allow foreigners of Philippine decent to own land!! (my mom owns a coconut plantation, and a mountain top mansion in Dauin, Negros, overlooking APO island but I don't know how I'am going to inherit it if I'm not legallly allowed to own land)

They should make exceptions for millionaires who want to create mega-projects to own land and let only reclamied lands to be owned by foreigners.

rdm
March 24th, 2005, 05:08 AM
LOL.

rdm
March 24th, 2005, 05:11 AM
LOL.

Aragon
March 24th, 2005, 06:23 AM
http://img14.imgspot.com/u/05/81/00/reclamation.JPG

ako naman i wish major philippine corporations like JG, Metrobank, PLDT, San Miguel, LUcio Tan, Tan Yu, megaworld etc would build their headquarters at these reclamation area..........same as SM's headquarters...........low rise............ang ganda siguro pag naka-align silang lahat no..........

it's very unlikely that ayala would transfer here cause they already owned makati and global; same with filinvest

thomasian
March 24th, 2005, 06:41 AM
@ a00556425 - Wow, rich kid.

jbkayaker12
March 24th, 2005, 09:12 AM
yeah... I wouldn't like to see most of Manila Bay being reclaimed.. specially that wide.... imagine how many mountains will be be demolished for this and yes the fishing industry will be affected, plus there isn't enough demand to fill up those spaces.... and I would rather reclaim lands for Cebu or other key cities of the country... Metro Manila is too congested and too crowded already....

and I wouldn't want foreigners to own lands as well... land is very scarce in this country and I wouldn't want to lease or rent on a land owned by a foreigner who can charge me a higher fee.... the Philippine soil is for Filipinos only..... foreigners can just lease or rent on them....

Foreigners should be allowed to own land to a certain degree especially if its meant for business venture and even for residential use. I see nothing wrong with it especially if its an idle land. I d rather have a foreign investor buy land and have it develop for business where it can help local communities and at the same time contribute to the economy than an idle land with no takers from the locals.

Jon

amras
March 24th, 2005, 09:37 AM
I'm a Canadian citizen born in Canada but I can't own land in the Philippines, they should allow foreigners of Philippine decent to own land!! (my mom owns a coconut plantation, and a mountain top mansion in Dauin, Negros, overlooking APO island but I don't know how I'am going to inherit it if I'm not legallly allowed to own land)

They should make exceptions for millionaires who want to create mega-projects to own land and let only reclamied lands to be owned by foreigners.

so your point is somehow inspired with personal reasons.... hmmm... It is just sad that a lot of Filipinos dont even own land. Those "idle lands" that we are talking about should be allotted to those poor homeless "kababayans", with a reasonable price and period of payment. I think it is logical for every pinoys to have their own land first before giving away the extra to "foreigners". But if you are really eager to inherit your mother's property then why don't you apply for a dual-citizenship?

I don't even see why we idolize Marcos so much, even though we know that his 20 yrs of rule may be one of the worst nightmares of our fathers and mothers ever had. Yes, we have seen the physical aspects of their so-called "legacy" but the moral damage they inflicted to filipinos can't ever be reverted. If the end justify the means, I don't wanna see the end at all.

renell
March 24th, 2005, 10:49 AM
Take dual citizenship then, man.

And yes Manila Bay does go further than the mess of Metro Manila. There's even beaches in Manila Bay, believe it or not....:D

pau_p1
March 24th, 2005, 11:02 AM
yeah.. if you really want to own a land here.. take dual citizenship..... land is a very precious thing to own in this overcrowded country... I wouldn't like to see foreigners and even ex-Filipinos who neglected their citizenship to take a percentage of what should have been owned by the Filipinos....

about the Yamashita treasure... it is merely a legend.... there are no hard proof that exists.... and I don't the Marcoses or any people has gotten it... maybe if Major Yamashita did bury something here.. it may not be that as big an amount.....

but then again... if there is that kind of treasure... I'd like to see it used to pay our international debts.. like the $365M which were granted by the Swiss government from the Marcos accounts.... I'd rather see the money be paid to the World Bank and IMF that to compensate the damage claimants....

jbkayaker12
March 24th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Oh well my relatives on the paternal side living in New Jersey had a 5 bedroom house built in Tagaytay and will be vacationing in April 2005 for the house blessing. :) I'll definitely check this one out on my vacation next year. :) I bet you those people who were hired to build the house from the architect to the laborers were very appreciative that some "foreigner" decided to have a house built in the Philippines. :)

Jon

Thunderflip
March 24th, 2005, 09:09 PM
Well, about the Yamashita treasure thing....I dunno but there have been claims of landowners in some provinces who have dug up some gold (not that big amount) that dated back from Japanese times. My family also owns plantations in Panay and they also found some WWII hidden gold (not that big amount) under the ground. I dunno, maybe they're scattered all over the country? And those found of my family were even investigated and they really dated back in Japanese occupation times.

ryanr
March 25th, 2005, 12:55 PM
going back to topic...

Belle to sell Manila Bay property

By ROULEE JANE F. CALAYAG, Reporter
Belle Corp., a listed firm involved in hotel, recreation and other services, plans to sell its property in the Manila Bay reclamation area as it focuses on its core business.

In a statement to the exchange, Assistant Corporate Secretary Jason C. Nalupta said the company's board of directors authorized management "to explore possibilities for selling" the undeveloped property so it could also raise money to pay off some debts.

Mr. Nalupta said the decision was also in line with Belle's thrust, which was to focus on residential and leisure property development, tourism, and retirement and wellness center development.

No further details of the planned sale were disclosed.

Meanwhile, Belle said its additional paid-in capital of P3.27 billion as of Dec. 31, 2004 would be applied against its retained deficit of P5.40 billion. As a result, the deficit will be cut to P2.13 billion.

Mr. Nalupta said the adjustment would not affect the par value of Belle's common shares.

Belle is a developer of upmarket leisure properties and one of the private sector participants in the rapidly developing gaming industry. It was formerly Belle Mining and Oil Exploration, Inc. Together with AIA Capital Corp., a regional investment and advisory subsidiary of the American International Group (AIG), it formed in 1989 a joint-venture company called the Tagaytay Highlands Corporation, which developed a golf course and resort in Tagaytay City.

Five years later, the company changed its principal activity as it entered the gaming business by acquiring an initial 15% stake in Pacific Online Systems Corp.

In 1996, Belle also merged with its 21%-owned affiliate, Dominion Asian Equities, Inc. , also a partner in its gaming activities and selected property ventures. The merger resulted in the consolidation of the gaming and property development activities of Belle and Dominion.

thomasian
March 25th, 2005, 01:38 PM
So where exactly in the reclaimed area is it?

ryanr
March 25th, 2005, 01:48 PM
No idea...i'm just the messenger:D hehehe

a00556425
March 27th, 2005, 02:17 AM
http://www.philskies.net/library/RPLL/mnlreal39.jpg

I want to live in those skyscrapers located in AsiaWold city.

This picture is pretty old, so are there other skyscrapers other than the ones in Asia Wolrd?

renell
March 27th, 2005, 02:43 AM
I think there are a couple more planned, those by Burgundy, and Bay Gardens.... I think isn't there yet.

Check out the pre T3 days:D

thomasian
March 27th, 2005, 05:47 AM
Even if Bay Gardens is already there, it still won't be visible because it is located further at the right of the pic, at the next island (not visible in the pic) where SM-MOA is located.

mysaong03
March 29th, 2005, 01:02 AM
^ MM is very green as shown in the above pic, contrary to what most people think :)

^ geez, the Food terminal complex is so huge!!! yet the compound has been idle for so long now :(

:)

a00556425
April 1st, 2005, 04:16 AM
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/6394/roxasblvd7li.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Why did manila ban reclamation in their boundary? They say its to protect the view of the sunset, but it won't block the view it will just move the baywalk furthur towards the sunset.

They should clean up Manila bay and reclaim a portion of Manila bay in Manila and put up a park and white sand beach. That would be great.

normandb
April 1st, 2005, 04:42 AM
Why did manila ban reclamation in their boundary? They say its to protect the view of the sunset, but it won't block the view it will just move the baywalk furthur towards the sunset.

They should clean up Manila bay and reclaim a portion of Manila bay in Manila and put up a park and white sand beach. That would be great.

US embassy is a reclaimed land. If they will continue to reclaime the portion of Manila from CCP complex to US embassy there will be no baywalk in roxas boulevard.

If you just notice from CCP complex there is Philippine Navy, then Open sea (baywalk), then US embassy, then Luneta, there is no room for reclamation. Roxas boulevard will look like Taft Avenue or Edsa if you reclaimed the remaining bodies of water beside it.

pau_p1
April 1st, 2005, 05:01 AM
yeah... the Bay's view will move farther out to the see if that is done... plus Luneta and that stretch of Roxas Blvd is itself reclaimed also.....

also.. I don't think its possible to put up a white sand beach on that area since naturally Manila's sand is blackish just like some beaches in Cavite... plus that area at the Baywalk is very deep......

I like how Manila's Bay view as it is right now.... I feel sad for Condo's along Roxas Blvd in the Paranaque side like Bayview and Chataue de Baie... its because they no longer have a bay infront of them but the reclaimed land..... also reclaimng that part of Manila would probably in the future block the sea wind going to Luneta... :D

renell
April 1st, 2005, 08:14 AM
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And there ain't nothing broke with Manila's insistence on keeping it's coastlines the way it is.

naughtyins0mniac
April 1st, 2005, 12:03 PM
:crazy2:

ryanr
April 2nd, 2005, 09:40 AM
i agree with pau...the roxas blvd strip is beautiful and the buildings lined up is just perfect. i agree with manila banning reclaimation in their area.

thomasian
April 4th, 2005, 09:59 AM
yeah, leave it the way it is. Roxas blvd. has been known to be the premiere blvd right beside the bay. I don't want it to lose its bayfront.

jbkayaker12
April 4th, 2005, 10:26 AM
What I like about Roxas Blvd are the coconut trees. It gives the city a tropical look. I've heard they planted even more trees just for the IPU meeting.

Jon

thomasian
May 18th, 2005, 01:45 PM
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05.15.05
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Blue Wave:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0014xx.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0013xx.jpg

The new Manila Doctors College:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0012xx.jpg

Golden Bay Condominiums:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0016xx.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0026xx.jpg

Bay Gardens:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0011xx.jpg

ryanr
May 18th, 2005, 02:17 PM
Wow...nice pictures! Blue Wave's mediterranean architecture is quite pleasing. I also like Manila Doctor's red brick design:) Also, thanks for including the Honda NSX in your first Blue Wave picture...can i repost that in a car forum?

Bay Gardens is impressive...short but its simple design and nice paint scheme combined with green windows is elegant.

thomasian
May 18th, 2005, 02:36 PM
Wow...nice pictures! Blue Wave's mediterranean architecture is quite pleasing. I also like Manila Doctor's red brick design:)

Also, thanks for including the Honda NSX in your first Blue Wave picture...can i repost that in a car forum?


Sure, no prob. :okay:

rico
May 18th, 2005, 04:43 PM
Wow...nice pictures! Blue Wave's mediterranean architecture is quite pleasing.
I like the way the Philippines is getting more and more strip/small malls like this Blue Wave place. These malls are more cozy and are generally more pleasant for me.

I hope they build more. :)

kiretoce
May 18th, 2005, 06:26 PM
Isn't the construction of "outdoor malls" the trend these days? :dunno:

Edmundtanso
May 18th, 2005, 09:20 PM
thanks for the photos thomasian
bay graden looks really nice!

Francis20
May 19th, 2005, 06:18 AM
outdoor malls? there's quite a few mushrooming all over MM. would you consider A-Venue an outdoor mall? what about that one in Ortigas? near MC home depot? is that an outdoor mall too?

thanks for the photos...Aaron. been wordering what was that u/c you could clearly see from the domestic airport. now i figured its golden bay condo.

i hear Metrobank will also build a low rise office there. right beside Bay Gardens which is also a metrobank property.

Solblanc
May 19th, 2005, 11:44 AM
outdoor malls are nice and all, but even greenbelt is not a nice place to be when the rain starts to pour :D

thomasian
May 20th, 2005, 07:25 AM
thanks for the photos thomasian
bay graden looks really nice!

Bay Gardens is impressive...short but its simple design and nice paint scheme combined with green windows is elegant.

Yeah the overall design looks so classy albeit a little short in height.
Oh, and don't forget that another condo will be rising beside it, on the fenced lot with a crane.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/000_0011xx.jpg

Oh my God, did I say with fences and a crane? :D
Could it be u/c, anyone confirm?

Bay Condo Renderings courtesy of Edmund :)
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/10569304-L.jpg
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/10569305-L.jpg
http://edmundtanso.smugmug.com/photos/10569307-L.jpg

simply_me
May 20th, 2005, 07:31 AM
wow!! very cool pix there aaron. :)

thomasian
May 20th, 2005, 07:49 AM
wow!! very cool pix there aaron. :)

Thanks a lot. :)

outdoor malls? there's quite a few mushrooming all over MM. would you consider A-Venue an outdoor mall? what about that one in Ortigas? near MC home depot? is that an outdoor mall too?

i hear Metrobank will also build a low rise office there. right beside Bay Gardens which is also a metrobank property.

I'm not sure about the A.Venue's Boardwalk mall, but I think Metrowalk (Ortigas, near MC Home Depot) could be considered an outdoor mall although almost all of it's tenants are bars and restos.

About the Metrobank offices, I guess it will be built on the other side of Bay Gardens (not visible in the pic) because another condo will supposedly be built on that side of Bay Gardens.

KulasKusgan
May 20th, 2005, 02:10 PM
bay condo looks like essensa. really nice!

renell
May 20th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Amazing how a small change from a flat roof to a wavy roof makes a lot of difference. More buildings should have wavy roofs:D

thomasian
May 20th, 2005, 05:45 PM
Federal Land makes really good condominiums.
Just look at Oriental Gardens, Valencia Hills, Bay Gardens etc.

absent-minded
May 20th, 2005, 07:14 PM
woah...! Bay Condo really does look pretty awesome!! haha! sweet!! I love the curved roof and the color scheme... I hope it turns out as good as the renderings... it's also by FederalLand?

btw, are all these condos built on reclaimed land? is there like a height limit that the reclaimed land can support? cause all the new buildings seem to be pretty short. hehe... I was just wondering, cause here (Richmond, near Vancouver) high rise buildings can only be built aroud 20+ storeys cuz they say the island is sinking and can't support anything taller... i was wondering if there is such a thing with reclaimed land.

thomasian
May 21st, 2005, 08:02 AM
It's also by Federal Land. :)

thomasian
May 24th, 2005, 08:40 AM
New pics.

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05.22.05
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Manila Bay Sunset as seen from the PRA Esplanade:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0944xx.jpg

PRA Esplanade with Binondo Skyline in the background, taken from the center island of Seaside blvd:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0905xx.jpg

That road is being used for legal drag racing events.

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Golden Bay Condominiums:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0937xx.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0937xxx.jpg

chymera00
May 24th, 2005, 09:52 AM
thanks for sharing them ^^

kiretoce
May 24th, 2005, 03:22 PM
It's nice to see the tradition of watching the sun sets below the horizon is still gathering crowds by Manila Bay. :okay:

amras
May 24th, 2005, 04:28 PM
it seems so peaceful there... :)

Lightspeed
May 24th, 2005, 05:54 PM
Wow!

The PRA Esplanade looks like a new emerging spot where families can go and enjoy a nice, quiet weekend by the glorious Manila Bay.

rustyboi
May 24th, 2005, 06:29 PM
awhh... beautiful! :)



http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/cebupics/SSC/cebu-sample02.jpg

pau_p1
May 25th, 2005, 02:17 AM
rusty... is the cebu banner part of your signature?.... that looks nice!.... it would fit to be a banner here in SSC... :D

thomasian
May 25th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Another installment of my Bay City pics:

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05.22.05
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On the PRA Esplanade, Manila and Binondo Skyline on the background:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0920xx.jpg

On the PRA Esplanade, Manila and Binondo Skyline on the background, SM MoA u/c on the right:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0908xx.jpg

Center island of Seaside blvd, Manila and Binondo Skyline on the background, SM MoA u/c on the right:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0904xx.jpg

Makati Skyline seen from Bay City:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0895xx.jpg

Close-up
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0895xxx.jpg

Mactan Tower (and twin) of Bay Gardens u/c beside the other three Bay Gardens Tower:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/aaron_ofngol/100_0877xx.jpg

Aragon
May 25th, 2005, 12:46 PM
there's the SM corporate offices at the second to the last pictures

dudz
May 25th, 2005, 04:32 PM
very nice aaron:okay: it's like being there...that part of the bay city...haven't been there so thank you. punta rin ako dyan minsan :D ...ganda!!!

have to add this...in your photos parang ang lapit lang ng south harbor at binondo when they are actually miles away...nice camera work :okay:

ThisFire
May 25th, 2005, 11:30 PM
beautiful pictures and hopefully the making of a true, consistent, clean and safe hangout site

Edmundtanso
May 26th, 2005, 03:54 AM
weeds are growing on the pavers already =(

renell
May 26th, 2005, 07:10 AM
Damn, that esplanade is massive. If you only had people doing something there, or have people at all:D Perhaps a rollerskating rink, I remember only seeing one in the Phils and that was in Baguio... I'd love to go biking there.

thomasian
May 26th, 2005, 07:20 AM
Well, I fly my kite there. So there's still some activity.

I really want to go biking there, but there's no way I can take my bike there, in won't fit in the car.

Anyone care to lend me a pickup truck? :jk: just kidding, but jokes are half meant you know :D

kiretoce
May 26th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Well, I fly my kite there. So there's still some activity.

I really want to go biking there, but there's no way I can take my bike there, in won't fit in the car.

Anyone care to lend me a pickup truck? :jk: just kidding, but jokes are half meant you know :D

Here's a thought....why not get on your bike and bike yourself all the way there! ;) :jk:

thomasian
May 27th, 2005, 05:26 AM
What? That's too far from our house.
Imagine biking from Sta Mesa all the way to Bay City.
Actually, that's possible but when I get there, I don't think I will have enough energy to get back to our house.
And besides, it's to dangerous for a bike to cruise through our highways, there's practically no bicycle lanes here, although I think they have it in Marikina.

renell
May 27th, 2005, 08:57 AM
But really something should be there, not just people who live nearby (possible informal settlers those people? not too sure) but it'll be perfect once a row of medium-rise apartments settle in Bay City. You know, Mall of Asia behind you, Manila Bay and that giant boardwalk in front of you, it's good living.

I came up with: free concerts, rollerblading rink, skate park, restaurants (every pinoy has got to eat or drink whatever they're doing), basketball courts, ferry terminal.

ryanr
May 27th, 2005, 09:30 AM
I missed quite a lot while i didnt log on since my grad day:D Superb pics, once again Thomasian!!:okay: Bay city is a great place to hangout, chill and relax:)

Sta. Mesa to Bay City is far...but it is possible to get there with a bike. But true, as you said there are no bike lanes in Manila. And many drivers couldnt care less of you cycling.

thomasian
May 27th, 2005, 10:18 AM
I was thinking of something like this, it would be nice to have a restaurant row like that infront of the Esplanade, on the areas unoccupied by MoA,
and then the mid-rise residences would be behind that, followed by the other planned dev'ts like a theme park, coliseum, etc.

SM Pampanga Fiesta Strip:
http://www.smprime.com/uploads/images/Img5_pampanga-fiesta-strip.jpg

renell
May 27th, 2005, 03:22 PM
but that road seems to wide you can put the restos and the apartments side by side:D

absent-minded
May 28th, 2005, 06:22 PM
cool... SM Pampanga looks nice!!

I was thinking something more like a long strip or a sorta T-shaped "extension" sticking out of the middle of the MOA or something. haha! so essentially it would still be a part of the MOA. but that was before I realized there was a road in between the baywalk and the mall. haha and yeah... aside from the restaurants they should laso have some other stuff that people can just go out to at night or on the weekends... that'd be awesome.

I missed quite a lot while i didnt log on since my grad day:D

congrats on your graduation...!! haha!

thomasian
June 2nd, 2005, 12:05 PM
SM May Still Get Crack at Esplanade
BusinessWorld - 05/06/05

SM Investments may still develop the Esplanade,
the nine-ha. commercial park at
the Bay City in Roxas Boulevard, if winning
bidder Salem Investment Corp. fails
to sign the contract with state-run Philippine
Reclamation Authority by May 25. The
state body, however, expects winning bidder
Salem to start construction in the 1.2-
km. area in Oct. as officials expressed
optimism the area would be a viable commercial
area. But if Salem fails to seal the
P1.9-million monthly lease contract, the
state reclamation authority may award
the contract to SM Investments, the second
highest bidder.

renell
June 3rd, 2005, 08:26 AM
Finally Bay City is starting up their projects.

thomasian
June 12th, 2005, 05:34 PM
The May 25 deadline has passed.
Anyone know if Salem has signed the contract or had they failed and the contract was automatically given to SM?

thomasian
June 26th, 2005, 03:20 PM
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06.26.05
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"The mysterious mountains" seen from other Manila Bay pics.
Now we won't be arguing if they're clouds or mountains. :D

The lower mountain between the two tall ones is Mt. Samat in Bataan.
It is where the giant cross stands.
The cross is not visible in the pic but i'm pretty sure it's there when I look at it using binoculars.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/000_0006xx.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/000_0008xx.jpg

Manila Doctor's College

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/000_0024xx.jpg

dudz
June 28th, 2005, 04:14 PM
ooops...you pasted a wrong picture there, aaron.

and you gave an idea...i've been thinking where to post this and since you've mentioned mt. samat and bataan in your last post, i'll follow it up with this...
i was in bataan a few weeks ago and one of the places i went there was a farm in the foothills of the mountain in the right side of your photos. i took some photos from this place, i posted some in the nature thread. i don't know how far across manila is...but am i lucky to see manila from this spot. i'm posting this satellite pic and the 'X' mark indicate the approximate spot from where i took the photos below.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/manilabay.jpg

heard about manila being visible from some spots in bataan before, mt samat is one, and seeing it personally is really quite awesome.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bataan/balanga_2262.jpg

and it looks like this at night...gt is quite recognizable there...the only one i should say
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bataan/balanga_manila2276.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bataan/IMG_2281.jpg

and as you mentioned...the cross is also visible from the manila side of the bay...wow, swerte lang talaga dahil hindi cloudy when i took this...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bay%20area/IMG_1702.jpg

thomasian
June 28th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Sorry dudz, wrong post nga yung isang pic.

Eto na talaga yung totoong pic.

BTW, nice pics ha. :)

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06.26.05
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Manila Doctor's College

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/000_0020xx.jpg

kiretoce
June 28th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Heard about manila being visible from some spots in bataan before, Mt. Samat is one, and seeing it personally is really quite awesome.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/imagesaver1206/bataan/balanga_2262.jpg

This view is awesome! You can see the scope of Metro Manila's urban sprawl, it'll be more impressive if there are more buildings to add density to the skyline. Another job well done @dudz! :okay:

dudz
June 30th, 2005, 02:13 PM
thanks a lot, red and aaron :). it will definitely be more impressive if more highrises are built along the bay area and the same baywalk lights are installed along the entire stretch of the bay city!!!

muzic_lover2981
July 5th, 2005, 05:53 PM
wow, job well done......

pau_p1
November 5th, 2005, 09:58 AM
here are pictures of the Bay City that I have taken...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p7bb14a237ff23539547a32538960a3f9/f195e9ca.jpg

SM offices...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p845a5fdbfa4d8456eb4ea8fa4fc52676/f195ea1b.jpg

the Globe and Mall of Asia..
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p4d404ac96d4acc0fb2ee47c891158abb/f195e6f7.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/pea72c487897483a9b1bf6db3afbf19e4/f195d3e1.jpg

i just noticed that some small aircrafts are flying low over this corner of the Bay City as the land the NAIA.. the bunch of people is due to a drag racing event...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p41f261b5d7e7f34eeb0531dc9dbe5580/f195d2e8.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p3e4188ba48d63969a0a316704a3dfd56/f195d2c3.jpg

sunset over the Bay City....
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p92187eea0eb9fc7e3fa791de3c46afc0/f195cc5e.jpg

the Promenade area was a very nice place to stroll and walk and see the sunset... because it was very peaceful... but here are just some of the eye sore...

garbage of the Manila Bay...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p01695b23c74e148f3d71da418f1ab0b7/f195d22d.jpg

sea insects crawling at every corner of the promenade area.... no worries di sila nangangagat... :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p7c67909c991cd5eb22c3431b2bd8819a/f195cf6e.jpg

ryanr
November 5th, 2005, 10:01 AM
@ dudz - wow, i didnt even think you could see Manila from Bataan. Thats awesome. And yeah, GT's lights can be seen...cool.

Great pics as usual, pau_p1. did you step on that insect right after you made it famous?:D

pau_p1
November 5th, 2005, 10:07 AM
nahhh... I tried and attempted... but changed my mind... its millions of relatives might get back on me.. hehehehe... :D

Lili
November 5th, 2005, 10:09 AM
I miss sunsets like that! Beautiful!

ryanr
November 5th, 2005, 10:12 AM
dudz or aaron, do you have a picture of the cross in Mt. Samat upclose? It seems like its pretty big if you can see it from Manila.

sista
November 5th, 2005, 10:49 AM
awsome sunset pic there pau_p1, pwedeng pwede pang post card! :applause:

thomasian
November 5th, 2005, 12:00 PM
here are pictures of the Bay City that I have taken...

sea insects crawling at every corner of the promenade area.... no worries di sila nangangagat... :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p7c67909c991cd5eb22c3431b2bd8819a/f195cf6e.jpg

That's what you call an 'Ipis dagat'. No, they're not related to cockroaches.
They're actually edible, I think they are crustaceans.

The seawall there has a couple of edible stuff, I once saw an SM-MoA worker catching "tahong" (mussels) for their dinner. I noticed that there are also crabs there, but the construction worker told me that it's hard to catch them so they just settle for tahong.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid193/p01695b23c74e148f3d71da418f1ab0b7/f195d22d.jpg

That's the Manila Bay shoe store.
You'll get to see a lot of shoes (and other stuff) along the seawall.
Try counting all the shoes and slippers along the seawall, it's really fun. :D
Who knows, you might get a free pair of Havaianas there. :colgate:

marites4
November 5th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Sayang naman manila bay panay basura.

pau_p1
November 6th, 2005, 11:24 AM
yeah...there were lots of shoes and sandals there...heheheh...

on that day, there are even waterlilies floating by the bay... probably they were washed out from the Pasig river..

also there also a lot of fishes in the bay... you'll see areas churning which show fish movement underneath... :D

dudz
November 6th, 2005, 03:35 PM
@ dudz - wow, i didnt even think you could see Manila from Bataan. Thats awesome. And yeah, GT's lights can be seen...cool.
yeah, got really excited when i saw some faint white squares across the bay...it was really awesome! took some shots immediately but they didn't register :doh:! had to wait for like almost late afternoon before the camera finally had a recognizable image of the bay area...and wow! really awesome!!!:haha: thanks ryan:)

about the mt. samat cross...still don't have a photo of it up-close but i posted a borrowed image at the nature thread...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=153064&page=9&pp=20

@pau_p1:...nice photos, pau...great sunset shot! and those shoes! how in the world did they get there! and they look like they even come in pairs:D!

richpol
November 7th, 2005, 04:02 PM
nice pics pau.

Btw, there's a new U/C strip mall called Hobbies of Asia near Manila Doctor's, Blue Wave and the soon-to-be opened SM Mall of Asia. I think it will be similar to Tiendesitas or Greenhills that will cater to every hobbyists' needs.

pau_p1
November 8th, 2005, 03:00 AM
yeah.. Blue Wave seems to be a good hang-out...not much people frequent it yet... :D and their parking area is free for the first 2 hours if you have your ticket validated by the restaurant that you eat at...:D

Sinjin P.
November 8th, 2005, 01:05 PM
Sorry for bringing this up again.
Tsunami, posible sa Manila Bay ayon sa PHIVOLCS.
For more info, watch TV Patrol World in a few minutes.

_zner_
November 8th, 2005, 01:21 PM
filthy!

Sinjin P.
November 8th, 2005, 02:17 PM
Now, just found out that in a 7.5 magnitude quake on the Manila Trench, it could create a 4 meter tsunami which will arrive the Manila Bay coastline in one hour. The coastal residents and the reclamation areas will be the most affected according to PHIVOLCS and to prevent great damage, they said that mangroves should be planted to serve as a guard for the tsunami. But, that still has a low probability, no need to worry, just for everyone's information. :)

thomasian
November 9th, 2005, 05:50 AM
It's actualy a 2-4 meter tsunami that could hit the coastline in an hour, when a 7.5 magnitude quake hits the Manila Trench.

tigidig14
November 9th, 2005, 06:35 AM
that means no more shoes in the seashore

ThisFire
November 9th, 2005, 06:59 AM
scary stuff

pau_p1
November 9th, 2005, 07:18 AM
is this true?... is there really a tsunami or an earthquake that occurred?... I haven't heard in the news of this event....

pau_p1
November 9th, 2005, 07:20 AM
oooppsss.. just found the news article... there hasn't been an earthquake....

Metro model for tsunami workshop

First posted 10:38pm (Mla time) Nov 08, 2005
By Volt Contreras
Inquirer News Service

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, a strong earthquake (magnitude 7.9) stirs the Manila Trench, releasing shock waves from beneath the South China Sea. You felt the shock as you were taking in the sights and sounds at the Baywalk, the al fresco dining strip along Roxas Boulevard.

Don’t wait for the sisig you ordered or for the folk singer to finish his set. You have only an hour to seek higher ground or be swept away by four-meter high waves!

This is a tsunami impact “model” for Manila -- one example of several disaster scenarios deduced by the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) in a bid to make the most accurate and, hopefully, life-saving assessment of our own experiences to giant killer waves.

The data analysis leading to these scenarios is called tsunami numerical modeling, the subject of a 10-day international workshop hosted by Phivolcs in Quezon City that opened yesterday.

“We cannot predict earthquakes but we can speculate on the impact,” Phivolcs Director Rene Solidum told reporters.

With grim images from the Dec. 26, 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami still vivid, Solidum said data acquired through tsunami modeling is crucial in devising early-warning procedures and evacuation plans, especially for coastal communities.

From a model, which can be done on a per-area basis, the public may learn the expected “arrival time” of a tsunami after an earthquake of certain strength, apart from most vulnerable locations, the estimated height of the waves upon hitting the coast, and the extent of the inundation or flooding.

According to Solidum, a sample model Phivolcs has prepared for the City of Manila gives the following cause-and-effect equation:

If an earthquake occurs somewhere along the Manila Trench, a magnitude of 7.9 is enough to generate a wall of water as tall as two to four meters by the time it enters Manila Bay.

The first wave is expected to crash on land in about “one hour” from the time of the quake, and can cause devastation at the North and South Harbors, recreational and commercial strips facing Manila Bay, and squatter colonies lining the coast.

A tsunami originating from the South China Sea is actually expected to lose considerable speed by the time it enters the bay, thanks to the bay’s narrow opening formed between the Bataan peninsula and Cavite, Solidum explained.

The last recorded tsunami to hit Manila was caused by a magnitude 6.5 temblor that struck at 7:25 p.m. on June 3, 1863.

Fortunately, the sea then rose merely by less than a meter and nobody was reported killed, the Phivolcs director said.

The agency has also come up with a tsunami model for Infanta, Real and Nakar, coastal towns of Quezon facing the Pacific Ocean.

The Phivolcs’ target is to have models covering the entire Philippine coastline.

The workshop runs until Nov. 19, with the cooperation of the International Tsunami Information Center in Hawaii.

Participants came from developing countries in the Southeast Asia, Pacific, Indian Ocean regions, namely China, Fiji, India, Indonesia, Madagascar, Malaysia, Mauritius, Papua New Guinea, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and the Philippines.

thomasian
November 14th, 2005, 03:13 AM
11.14.05

Manila Bay Sunset

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Manila-Bay_Sunset.jpg

Shrine of Jesus at SM Central Business Park, Bay City:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/SM-SOJ_3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/SM-SOJ_2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/SM-SOJ.jpg

pau_p1
November 14th, 2005, 03:56 AM
nice shots!!

Lili
November 14th, 2005, 04:09 AM
Beautiful shots Aaron! I especially liked the sunset and the angled shot of the church. Ok rin ang sig mo ha.

sista
November 14th, 2005, 04:20 AM
Great photos Aaron! I'm totally mesmerized by the sunset....one of the most beautiful sunset pics that I saw :)

ThisFire
November 14th, 2005, 06:57 AM
The picture with the famed sunset, took my breath away! and the pictures below of the church, shows a part of the rich culture and architecture

thomasian
November 14th, 2005, 07:07 AM
Thank you guys, I love y'all. :D

I was also surprised with how my sunset pic turned out, I guess magaling akong tsumamba sa pagkuha ng pic. :)

@ Lili - Nice sig. indeed, I think it's the best description I can give to myself. :colgate:

Edit: 'eto pa, pahabol na pic.

Blue Wave at Night
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Blue-wave_night.jpg

Aragon
November 20th, 2005, 06:12 AM
have you guys seen the new manila doctors collge in the paper....it's so neat....mediterranean style

normandb
November 20th, 2005, 03:55 PM
have you guys seen the new manila doctors collge in the paper....it's so neat....mediterranean style

I think its the trend in Metro Manila. They all have mediterranean touch in Blue Wave just beside manila doctors college and also in eastwood.

thomasian
November 20th, 2005, 04:06 PM
Yes but not in the papers, I've seen it personally and I do have some pics.
Just go several pages back this thread.
I really like the meditteranean inspired couryard in the middle of the building, mukhang masarap mag relax dun in-between classes.

JAMAICUS
December 29th, 2005, 05:54 AM
LINK :

http://www.pea.gov.ph/Boulevard.htm

Askal82
December 29th, 2005, 08:02 AM
Thank you guys, I love y'all. :D

I was also surprised with how my sunset pic turned out, I guess magaling akong tsumamba sa pagkuha ng pic. :)

@ Lili - Nice sig. indeed, I think it's the best description I can give to myself. :colgate:

Edit: 'eto pa, pahabol na pic.

Blue Wave at Night
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Blue-wave_night.jpg

Nice effect, on the move!! :)

JAMAICUS
March 22nd, 2006, 08:52 AM
Any new pics on those condos/apartments being built near SM MALL OF ASIA?

JustHorace
March 22nd, 2006, 03:50 PM
^^ There's none actually. Doon lang sa Asiaworld City.

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 09:19 AM
^^ What do you think I was refering to? Of course the one in Asiaworld city.

thomasian
March 23rd, 2006, 09:48 AM
^^ What do you think I was refering to? Of course the one in Asiaworld city.

My parents went there recently to meet with a client.
Sana pala sumama ako para nakakuha ako ng pics, up-close pa. :(

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 09:51 AM
^^ So that means it is still not completed.

JAMAICUS
March 23rd, 2006, 03:03 PM
Since SM Central Business Park is part of Bay City :

Philippines SM Investments Building PHP900M Expo Center

MANILA (Dow Jones)--SM Investments Corp. (SM.PH), the flagship company of retail tycoon Henry Sy, started construction Thursday on a PHP900 million ($17.5 million) convention and exhibition center.

The 46,647-square meter, three-story building is scheduled for completion in June 2007.

The center is part of a masterplan for SM Investments' SM Central Business Park, a 60-hectare reclaimed property along the coast of Manila Bay. The business park now hosts several call centers and the Mall of Asia - the country's largest shopping mall by floor space.

SM Investments first executive vice president Hans Sy said in a statement that the capital investments being made by the group "are a testimony to our confidence and trust in the growing Philippine economy."

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060323/5/2hu2x.html

thomasian
March 24th, 2006, 09:27 AM
^^ Thanks, but I had the SM Mall of Asia thread renamed to "SM Central Business Park; SM Mall of Asia, MAITRADE Center, OneE-comCenter -Thread IV", it's now the official thread for SM Central Business Park and all other projects within it. :)

JAMAICUS
March 24th, 2006, 12:40 PM
^^ But still SM Business Park is part of the Bay City Project.

thomasian
March 25th, 2006, 07:05 AM
^^ I think it deserves a thread of it's own owing to the number of structures that will be built there in the future.

JAMAICUS
April 8th, 2006, 02:52 PM
^^ Still part of BAY CITY though!

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DEVELOPMENT BY ISLAND

Cultural Center of the Philippines
The 77 hectare CCP Complex is under the jurisdiction of two cities, Manila and Pasay. Along the Roxas Boulevard, the complex is divided into two zones, an Art Zone and a Commercial and Entertainment Zone. The general objective is for the Commercial Zone to generate income that would subsidize the Art Zone. Current locators in the area aside from the CCP are the Manila Film Center, Folk Arts Theatre, Philippine International Convention Center, Philippine Plaza Hotel, Coconut Palace, Ferry Terminal and Star City among others.

Financial Center Area Complex
The 77 hectare area is where the GSIS/Senate Complex, PNB Complex and World Trade Center are located. Other landowners in the area include SSS, DTI and PNCC. Some of the interim uses include the site for the Boom na Boom and some restaurants in the area.

Central Business Park, Island A
CBP 1 A located across the busy Baclaran area covers a total area of about 200 hectares. The major property owners are SM, Inc., Metrobank Group of Companies, MBDC and PEA.

In the SM property, the sprawling SM Corporate Offices which can accommodate some 3,000 employees had been completed and now occupied mostly by SMI’s employees. In the adjacent area, foundation works for the Mall of Asia had been completed and almost completed is the construction of the parking buildings in the north and south wings of the mall. The installation of electrical facilities including park lights in the promenade near the bay is on-going. SM constructed the Shrine of Jesus Church.

In the Metropolitan Park owned by the Metrobank Group of Companies, the newest establishment is the Manila Doctor’s College, a nursing and allied medical training/educational institution. The school which could accommodate some 3,000 students was completed in March 2004 and started operations in May 2004. Other establishments in the area include the Toyota Showroom, Le Pavilion, Metrobank Branch, `Bay Garden Condominiums, Petron Gas Station and the Blue Wave complex of restaurants and eateries.

In the 5 hectare area of MBDC, almost complete and ready to operate is the Jetti Gas Station.

PEA has allowed the use of its Promenade for selected affairs, such as Pyrotechnics Display, drag races, affairs of other government offices, i.e., Supreme Court. The Promenade is open to the public in the mornings during weekdays and for the whole day during week ends.

Central Business Park, Islands B & C
The 204 hectare area is predominantly for commercial use with recreational, residential, institutional, parks and promenades and utilities usage. Current locators are PriceMart and Shell Gas Station. Some 64 hectare area was turned over to the Department of Finance through a MOA. DOF’s area will be the location of the new Nayong Pilipino. The developer of the property is R-1 Consortium.

Central Business Park 11
This 43 hectare area was sold by PEA to the Manila Bay Development Corporation through public bidding in 1988. Current locators in the area include the Uniwide Coastal Mall and Petron Gas Station.

Asiaworld (First Neighborhood Unit)
The 183 Marina Properties is divided into four sections, the low density residential areas of Marina East and South, mixed use high density residential/commercial area and low rise townhouse development. The centerpiece of its development is the Golden Bay Condominium Project. Tan Yu’s Asiaword Properties, Philippines acquired the Marina Properties from NDC in 1988.

Centennial City (Three Island)
The vision for the area is to develop the three islands into an up-market townhouse subdivisions and mid-rise residential blocks and subdivisions which will be complimented by retail arcades, recreational and office developments on the site. The planned recreational facilities include a championship golf course and a main waterfront development.

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^^ As we can see, SM Business Park is part of the Bay City Project.

JAMAICUS
April 8th, 2006, 05:27 PM
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2292/mybuildings20143lq.jpg

What buildings are these in the Bay City area?

master_pakjwan
April 8th, 2006, 05:50 PM
maganda siguro kung series of low rise building for offices,lodging,hotels na lng itayo sa reclaimed area. or THEME PARK, hehehe.

ryanr
April 8th, 2006, 09:40 PM
What buildings are these in the Bay City area?

yeah, and what are those buildings that are u/c?

JAMAICUS
April 10th, 2006, 09:52 AM
^^ Yes, please anyone, can somebody answer our question?

JustHorace
April 10th, 2006, 10:00 AM
I'm not sure. I think it's the Mactan building of the Bay Gardens(?) condo near Le Pavilion .

JAMAICUS
May 13th, 2006, 12:01 PM
Anymore update? Thomasian I believe you want to post(or repost) something.

thomasian
May 13th, 2006, 12:04 PM
^^ Wow, thanks for finding the Bay City thread for me. :D

Here they are...

HK Sun Plaza:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0135x.jpg

Hobbies of Asia, uhm, HoA? :D
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0098xHoA.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0099xHoA.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0097x.jpg

...all of them along Diosdado Macapagal Ave., near MoA.

JAMAICUS
May 13th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Just reposting :


It's already very much u/c. Parang patapos na nga eh. :)
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05.12.06

The billboard and the u/c:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0103x.jpg

Together with Shell Powerstation (on the right):

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0127x.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0128x.jpg

The other end of Shell Powerstation and the Neo Chinatown in the background:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/000_0102xSP-NP.jpg

JAMAICUS
June 1st, 2006, 05:26 PM
HK firm allots $60M for devt on bay area
By Max V. de Leon
Reporter

HONG KONG-based HK Sun Plaza is investing a total of $60 million (roughly P3.15 billion at prevailing exchange rates) in the country for various projects that include a home depot, luxury hotel and tourism shops.
Allan Lun, HK Sun Plaza chairman, told the BusinessMirror that of the amount, $10 million was allotted for the largest home depot to be built in the country—the 6.4-hectare HK Sun Plaza that spans the length of Roxas Boulevard fronting the Department of Foreign Affairs to Macapagal Avenue in Pasay City.
The depot will be comanaged by CW Manila Bay Development Corp., the operator of the Ortigas and Alabang Home Depots.
It was inaugurated Tuesday night and is expected to start commercial operation in September.
“We envision the depot to be the biggest outlet for energy saving lights and home and office furniture. Our target right now is to lease 80 percent of the area by the time of the opening,” Lun said.
HK Sun Plaza is a new investor in the country and has interests in stocks, properties and infrastructures in Hong Kong, Korea and China.
After the depot, Lun said they would start the construction of a 560-room five-star hotel in an adjacent lot early next year.
Lun said they would be spending a little less than $50 million for the hotel, which is expected to be completed two years after the start of construction.
For the remainder of its $60-million investment, HK Sun Plaza will be putting up specialty stores for tourists in key areas in Metro Manila.
Lun said their target is to build 20 big tourist shops around the metropolis where souvenir items from across the country will be sold.

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0601/comp01.php

JAMAICUS
June 10th, 2006, 07:43 AM
^^ Hopefully this would spur Bay City...

thomasian
June 10th, 2006, 09:11 AM
I have pics last week of HK Sun Plaza and Hobbies of Asia Center. I almost forgot to post them if not for this thread. I'll post them later. ;)

thomasian
June 10th, 2006, 06:05 PM
^^ Here they are...

06.04.06

HK Sun Plaza
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/HK-Sun-Plaza_06-04-06.jpg

Hobbies Center of Asia
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Hobbies-of-Asia2_06-04-06.jpg

Changgi Avenue @ Hobbies Center of Asia
...not it's not an airport, translation = Tiangge Avenue @ Hobbies Center of Asia :hilarious
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Hobbies-of-Asia_06-04-06.jpg

_zner_
June 11th, 2006, 05:28 AM
http://i6.tinypic.com/140mekh.jpg

http://i6.tinypic.com/140mf07.jpg

JAMAICUS
June 11th, 2006, 05:34 AM
Just reposting this :

06.04.06

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Mactan-Tower3_06-04-06.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Mactan-Tower2_06-04-06.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Mactan-Tower_06-04-06.jpg

jbkayaker12
June 11th, 2006, 06:05 AM
^^ Here they are...

06.04.06

HK Sun Plaza
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/HK-Sun-Plaza_06-04-06.jpg

Hobbies Center of Asia
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Hobbies-of-Asia2_06-04-06.jpg

Changgi Avenue @ Hobbies Center of Asia
...not it's not an airport, translation = Tiangge Avenue @ Hobbies Center of Asia :hilarious
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Hobbies-of-Asia_06-04-06.jpg

I noticed that the place is a bit messy considering it's a new center. How come the advertisement on a post is messed up same thing with the one by the tree. I noticed some Filipinos dont care or seem nonchalant about things of this nature but be adviced tourists see these things when they visit.

Rodel
June 11th, 2006, 10:33 AM
http://i6.tinypic.com/140mekh.jpg



i like this photo... :)

thomasian
June 12th, 2006, 08:18 AM
@ (((myx))) - Kaw ba yung silhouette sa pic? Gwapo ka pala sa dilim! :jk:

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Belle Corp. To Unload Property
Business World 5/2/06

Belle Corp., the leading developer of
upmarket leisure properties, is in talks
with interested parties to unload its 3.6-
hectare reclaimed property located along
Roxas Boulevard through a joint-venture
agreement or outright cash sale. The
listed company would likely generate P1.2
billion through an outright cash sale. Proceeds
will be used to further develop its
flagship Tagaytay Highlands. Belle expects
to complete the sale of 1.2 hectares out
of the 3.6 hectares at P360 million in the
third quarter. Belle Corp. owns 44.9% of
Belle Bay City Corp. (BBCC) which is the
owner of about 19 hectares of reclaimed
area along Roxas Boulevard in Parañaque,
part of which had formerly been earmarked
for future development into Belle
Bay Plaza, a mixed-use complex.

_zner_
June 12th, 2006, 12:44 PM
@ (((myx))) - Kaw ba yung silhouette sa pic? Gwapo ka pala sa dilim! :jk:




hanggang sa dilim lang ako.. hindi pwede sa liwanag.. :lol:

thomasian
June 12th, 2006, 12:47 PM
^^ BAkit, masusunog ka? :D

_zner_
June 12th, 2006, 12:49 PM
^^ hindi naman... malulusaw lang.. :D

_zner_
June 12th, 2006, 01:00 PM
eto pa... :D


http://i6.tinypic.com/143qovk.jpg

thomasian
June 12th, 2006, 01:11 PM
^^ Nagtago ka pa eh nakita ko na rin naman ang mukha mo dati, dalawang pic pa. :D Sa nakita ko, wala ka namang dapat itago dahil cute ka naman, promise. :colgate:

_zner_
June 12th, 2006, 01:16 PM
^^ Nagtago ka pa eh nakita ko na rin naman ang mukha mo dati, dalawang pic pa. :D Sa nakita ko, wala ka namang dapat itago dahil cute ka naman, promise. :colgate:

sa personal pangit ako, promise.. haha... :lol:

thomasian
June 12th, 2006, 02:00 PM
^^ Feeling mo lang yun, ako din dati eh, feeling ko ang pangit pangit ko. :D Ngayon okay na, kahit na madalas pa rin akong magkaroon ng insecurity attacks. :)

thomasian
June 12th, 2006, 02:33 PM
06.04.06

Golden Bay Condominiums
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Golden-Bay-Condos_06-04-06.jpg

Neo Chinatown (Lifestyle Center) and Shell Powerstation on the left
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Neo-Chinatown_Shell-Powerstation_06.jpg

marites4
June 12th, 2006, 06:19 PM
bute na lang hindi naging girl si thomasian . :jk: :colgate:

thomasian
June 13th, 2006, 05:55 AM
^^ At san naman nanggaling 'yan? :D Batukan kaya kita, kahit girl ka papatulan kita. :jk:

3cr
June 13th, 2006, 09:27 AM
Magsurvive kaya ang SM MOA, the adjoining business center and those other structures built on reclaimed land along Manila Bay like those at Bay City when all these talks about the impending and overdue big earthquake finally comes to fruition? It just seems a little scary that they are planning to build so much structures on reclaimed land pa naman. Not to scare anyone but here's an article which forcasts the expected mass devastation Metro Manila will endure when this West Valley Fault (aka Marikina Fault) breaks. Sad to say the resulting aftermath is bad, very bad according to this article.

‘Big One’ Is Possible But Metro Is Unprepared

BY AUBREY STA. CRUZ MAKILAN
Bulatlat

Here’s something that the country’s national leaders should be bothered about: If a major earthquake were to hit Metro Manila today, the devastation would be so big even disaster response authorities cannot simply cope with it. And it even looks like disaster preparedness occupies a low priority among officials down to the municipal level.

Recent reports gathered by Bulatlat show that upwards of 35,000 residents of Metro Manila would die and up to three million others would need to be evacuated. In addition, some 175,000 buildings would be damaged. The pressure of collapsed buildings and the inability to rescue those who would be trapped inside would cause most of the deaths.

Metropolitan Manila, which is composed of 13 cities and four municipalities, is densely populated with several clusters and districts having high-rise buildings close to each other. Investigations done by various disaster units and fire departments a few years ago found many buildings did not comply with construction standards and that these are prone not only to fires but also to damage by earthquakes of any scale.

One of the reports gathered by Bulatlat, the Metropolitan Manila Earthquake Impact Reduction Study (MMEIRS), cites “many research studies (indicating) that active phases of the (West) Valley Faults (formerly the Marikina Valley Faults) are approaching and that the estimated magnitude will be around 7 or more.” But MMEIRS also raised the possible intensity from 7 to even 9, which could be “devastating.”

The study projected the “big earthquake” to be “unlike any tragedy seen or imagined in Metro Manila.”

Asked for comment, however, a scientist-environmentalist theorized that such studies could be pressing the panic button now just to allow certain insurance companies to profit from a sudden surge of building insurance orders and the like.

Largest impact
MMEIRS, a Japan-funded study that was begun in August 2002, identified the West Valley Fault, which lies just northeast of Manila, as “the fault expected to cause the largest impact in the metropolis.” The West Valley Fault traverses Marikina town, Pasig going to Muntinlupa up to the south.

The Fault, other studies showed, caused at least two major earthquakes within the last 1,400 years. No earthquake is known to have taken place along the West Valley Fault after the 16th century. But based on the estimated return period of less than 500 years, the Fault is due to exhibit dangers this century – or even within the next few years, if the estimates of an official of the Philippine Institute of Volcanology and Seismology (Phivolcs) are valid.

Dr. Norman Tungol of Phivolcs’ Geology, Geophysics, Research and Development Division (GGRDD) estimated the Fault’s movement of recurrence at 200-400 years and based on this, he told Bulatlat, it is due for another movement.

Tungol said however that since studies have a big margin of error, this projection “could be within the next few years, (or) few tens of years.” He also said that even if there is no need for the people to panic because there is no timetable yet, “dapat mag-prepare because it’s inevitable.”

He confirmed that an earthquake with intensity 8 or 9 could be expected in the Valley Fault with a possible magnitude of 7.2 because of the lengthy fault.

Another Phivolcs scientist, Dr. Elena Bautista, noted however that the MMEIRS study found no pattern for the frequency of earthquakes occurring in the West Valley Fault.

A noted engineer, Dr. Arthur Saldivar-Sali, saw MMEIRS’ assertion that “active phases of the Valley Faults are approaching” as vague. He noted that the study, which he admits he has never seen, was apparently based on “deterministic analysis” which focuses on the characteristics of the movement of a fault and can be a prejudgment based on studies done or merely on gut feel that has no scientific basis at all.

Saldivar-Sali is a member of the Council of Engineering Consultants of the Philippines (Cecophil), a group of corporations and companies doing civil engineering designs and foundations.

Probability theory
Saldivar-Sali, a former UP professor who is also now with the Geo-Technica Consultancy Group, told Bulatlat that he tends to believe in the “probability analysis” of former Phivolcs Director Raymundo Punongbayan. Shortly after the Mt. Pinatubo eruption in 1991, Punongbayan told of a higher probability of a major earthquake on the Valley Fault based on its rare movements. Since lesser energy is released in the friction of rocks, more energy is stored, like a rubber band, preparing for a big snap.

The higher the percentage of the probability of an earthquake, the dangerous it would be, Saldivar-Sali said.

Punongbayan also cited the danger of building anything five kms near the fault. The director’s warning caused alarm among the business community and Marikina local officials asked that the fault be renamed “West Valley Fault” instead.

In layman’s terms, a magnitude of 7.2 can be compared to a bomb explosion, Saldivar-Sali said. In exponential form of 10, a magnitude of 1 is equivalent to one ton (1 x 100), magnitude 2 to 10 tons (2 x 101), 3 to 300 tons (3 x 102), and so on. A 7.2 magnitude if multiplied to 106 is equivalent to 7.2 million tons of bomb explosion.

MMEIRS actually aimed to design a master plan for earthquake impact reduction in Metro Manila leading to the holding of training seminars on earthquake preparedness. Funded by the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA-Philippines), the study was supported by the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA), the Department of Science and Technology (DoST), Phivolcs and JICA contractors Pacific Consultants International, Oyo Corporation, and Pasco Corporation.

Scientists from Phivolcs, the University of the Philippines as well as from Japan participated in the study. Due for completion last March, the report is being finalized in Japan, according to Cora Macasieb, Special Operations Officer II and acting division chief of the Directorate for Special Operations of the Metropolitan Manila Disaster Coordinating Council (MMDCC).

Separate studies on earthquake are also being done in cooperation with China, Japan and the United Nations Development Program (UNDP).

Among others, three areas were tested under the MMEIRS study: Mataas na Lupa in Malate, Manila; Ugong, Pasig; and Cupang, Marikina. Studied were Metro Manila’s three fault lines, namely, the West Valley Fault, the Manila Trench and Manila Bay.

Analyzed were the areas’ earthquake history, length of the fault and vulnerability to earthquake. Damage scenarios and estimates of costs of destruction were also done.

Impact
The seismic intensity generated by the West Valley Fault earthquake and the damage felt in an area varied from place to place. The intensity may range from 7 in Quezon City, almost 8 and 9 alongside Marikina River and Manila Bay, and 8 at west of Metropolitan Manila and 7 at other areas. Based on the Phivolcs Earthquake Intensity Scale (PEIS), intensity 7 is “destructive,” while 8 and 9 are “very destructive” and “devastating,” respectively.

Aside from the estimated death toll, the West Valley Fault earthquake would cause injuries to 118,200 persons, the study reveals. MMDC’s Macasieb said that the death toll would rise if the earthquake occurs during office hours where most of the people are working inside buildings including those who would come from the province to process various papers in the metropolis.

The number of buildings expected to be destroyed by the Manila Trench earthquake would reach about 5,000 while 16,000 for the Manila Bay fault. The West Valley Fault earthquake will cause the collapse of buildings in northeastern Quezon City, western Marikina, eastern Pasig, Muntinlupa-Laguna Bay and Mandaluyong-Makati. Evacuation can be difficult in the metropolis’ fringes particularly in the north and east portions of Las Piñas and Taguig, the MMEIRS study also found.

Residential buildings around the Malacañang in Manila and the House of Representatives in Quezon City would be severely damaged. Other infrastructures such as bridges and power posts will also be destroyed.

The danger of spreading fire to the Malacañang presidential office is not ruled. Liquefaction around the House area might take place. Even the MMDA building would be severely damaged, the study adds.

Collapses would lead to electricity short circuit, petroleum and LPG leakages from storage tanks, among others, that would cause fire. Areas highly vulnerable to fire would be Valenzuela, Caloocan, and south of Quezon City west intersection.

Damages to the Angat reservoir and water purification plant would likely happen, causing a long-term stoppage in water supply. Public transportation facilities such as airport runways would be closed, leaving only helicopters available for operations. Ports in the North and South harbors would be damaged and tilted by liquefaction, making these inaccessible for loading and unloading. Damages would likely be expected on roads and bridges.

Including victims of fires and liquefaction caused by the earthquake, the study estimates the number of refugees or evacuees at three million. The figure would include 1.3 million persons who would be uprooted from their homes if the aftershock would last about seven days.

After liquefaction, there would be a possible regional separation. The western part of Metro Manila would be isolated from other parts of the metropolis. The same thing would happen to the northern and southern parts due to building collapse especially in the area intersecting Makati and Mandaluyong. Meanwhile, all road networks running east-west that are on the fault would be broken.

kevinb
June 13th, 2006, 09:48 AM
nakakaintriga pinag-uusapan ni (((myx))) at thomasian ah!! :lol: :jk:

_zner_
June 13th, 2006, 12:24 PM
nakakaintriga pinag-uusapan ni (((myx))) at thomasian ah!! :lol: :jk:


talagang iniintriga ha? :lol:

JAMAICUS
June 13th, 2006, 02:53 PM
06.04.06

Golden Bay Condominiums
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Golden-Bay-Condos_06-04-06.jpg

Neo Chinatown (Lifestyle Center) and Shell Powerstation on the left
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/Neo-Chinatown_Shell-Powerstation_06.jpg

Nice updates... hopefully more projects in the pipeline for Bay City... like Maitrade...

JustHorace
June 13th, 2006, 02:55 PM
sana we see fast track development kasi imo, this is the most prime location among the metro cbds.

thomasian
July 3rd, 2006, 08:33 AM
HK Sun Plaza:

The white lot on the center is where it was built...
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/HK-Sun-Plaza_aerial.jpg

marites4
July 3rd, 2006, 08:54 AM
^^ At san naman nanggaling 'yan? :D Batukan kaya kita, kahit girl ka papatulan kita. :jk:
thomasian hindi ako nakikipagsabunutan ha. :jk:
:lol:
cutie mod joke lang po yon.