View Full Version : Some dramatic ideas for Melbourne...today!


redbaron_012
May 25th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Today's Age...Melbourne Magazine had an article about big ideas for Melbourne.. if they are feasible..or pie in the sky???? http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/756/m132smalldq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3350/m134smalluf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2730/m135smalltz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6416/m136smallah1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6299/m137smallsn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6106/m138mediumci4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

BleakCity
May 25th, 2007, 10:46 AM
1. Stupid
2. Stupid and ugly
3. Better
4. Good - but at The Rip?
6. Incredibly stupid

Where's number five?

Edward
May 25th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Ah yes. I read the article myslef and logged straight on to skyscraper city!
Number 5 was jamies school dinners.

cowface
May 25th, 2007, 12:30 PM
(melbourne)magazine has to be the most pretentious piece of fluff from the Australian media ever.
Written by a bunch of European wannabes, it's a must read for people who like to think they're in on the latest tends.

Alibaba
May 25th, 2007, 01:15 PM
lol ^^ i think its fairfax media - as it has similar magz from SMH ie Sydney magazine

Mesh22
May 25th, 2007, 01:49 PM
(melbourne)magazine has to be the most pretentious piece of fluff from the Australian media ever.
Written by a bunch of European wannabes, it's a must read for people who like to think they're in on the latest tends.

i tend to agree and disagree.

It does contain some pretty interesting articles and it presents itself well.

Sadly some of it is very out of touch and repetitive. If I have to read about one more fucking 'cutting edge laneway boutique', i'll rip my hair out.

Bronteboy
May 25th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Have to say I find it the most empty, facile, glossy piece of trash around - a pure advertising vehicle for the fashion industry and its ilk.

A total waste of trees. And the article about the mile high building etc was pathetic. Even the people they were interviewing were struggling to take the questions seriously and give some kind of half-adequate reply.

Edward
May 25th, 2007, 03:46 PM
I very much agree with Mesh22

Leon...
May 25th, 2007, 04:50 PM
(melbourne)magazine has to be the most pretentious piece of fluff from the Australian media ever.
Written by a bunch of European wannabes, it's a must read for people who like to think they're in on the latest tends.

If you're not a pretentious, trendy, fashionable European-wannabe, what are you doing in Melbourne? Replace pretentious with "cultured", "European wannabe" with "heritage architecture, parks and gardens and a lack of cut-throat corporate Sydney-esque feel" and you have what Melbourne prides itself on.

(melbourne)magazine is a little trashy, but let's not be ashamed of our strengths!

dockman
May 26th, 2007, 02:48 AM
Huh? I think it's a pretty good magazine really.....
A little bit of out there thinking (in this article), but generally very funky magazine.

Leon...
May 26th, 2007, 03:05 AM
I think a dramatic idea would be to try to extend the CBD east, with high density around Collingwood/Richmond ... I guess it's more like my slightly unrealistic pet opinion :)

Lightning~Bolt
May 26th, 2007, 06:35 AM
Thanks for the input redbaron_012, but was that written by a 12 year old?

redbaron_012
May 26th, 2007, 12:52 PM
Hmmm...maybe using the word 'Dramatic' was me thinking these ideas are not very realistic.....We could have a supertall..but a mile high building in Melbourne gives no consideration that we went metric years ago !!!!! Tidal power generation seems a good idea....the tide comes in and out every day...The Rip would be super controversial.....if any of you have been to Inverloch, the power of the tide there is amazing through the inlet!!! It has to be better than wind turbines that rely on the wind or existing power sources.It would be close to the existing power grid. The levitation train...great..but not cost effective for such a short trip. After visiting many European cities ..the bike thing is tenuous in an Australian city...they winge about it but have already designed the whole place around the car!!!Except maybe a few inner areas.Last but not least..the island in the bay!!! If the bay channel dredging goes ahead..which it looks like it will why not dump it all at one place making an Island, sheilded from the rest of the bay and channels....If development is way in the future that's fine, could be Hotel, resort, housing, whatever? but it would be there ready! otherwise all the debri and sand will just be scattered in the bay.

Eureka!
May 26th, 2007, 01:47 PM
Okay.
1. A super-tall would be awesome but is there demand? It'd also have to look amazing because of its height. Need more planning/detail. Won't happen.
2. Bad idea. The fake islands ruin natural oceans and beaches. And i doubt people would buy them. Too cold here.
3. Good idea and I think it will eventualy happen. Would be awesome.
4. Any renewable energy is good. Probably expensive but I thyink it would be smart.
6. Would be very expensive and they could spend the money on suburban rail systems etc however it one like the one in HK would be awesome.

Shumway
May 26th, 2007, 06:33 PM
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Favco750
May 27th, 2007, 11:44 AM
melb needs air/rail link more than anything..........

citylink & yellow falcons will fight forever............

Mesh22
May 27th, 2007, 04:53 PM
melb needs air/rail link more than anything..........

citylink & yellow falcons will fight forever............

but that would be practical.

Let's just build another freeway.. maybe Altona to Rosanna?

Budget for airport links: maybe one more bus to be implicated between now and 2014, pending on feasability study, which will not be conducted until 2011 at the very earliest. :bash: bracks factor.

euralto
May 27th, 2007, 05:25 PM
How about a monorail around the Docklands... that would be pretty cool IMO

redbaron_012
May 27th, 2007, 05:43 PM
yeah, monorail docklands, southbank, fed square, mcg !

gappa
May 28th, 2007, 01:45 AM
Lyle Langley: I've built monorails for Ogdenville, Brockway and North Haverbrook - and by gum it sure put them on the map!

mugley
May 28th, 2007, 03:06 AM
I call the big one Bitey.

A r c h i
May 28th, 2007, 07:18 AM
If there's anything I would hate more than that ferris wheel it would be a monorail. What is the this the 70's?

CP Doom
May 28th, 2007, 08:30 AM
Despise the mile high building & the artificial archipelego (does the publisher even know what an archipelego is?) Should the dredging project in Port Phillip occuer, an island off saint kilda or nearby has been mooted as a site to dump the river mud. Frankly, it would turn into a rich only enclave.

Monorail (hurl)

The Collector
May 28th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Whenever someone mentions monorail, I keep thinking of The Simpsons episode dealing with one. :lol:

gappa
May 28th, 2007, 10:45 AM
Whenever someone mentions monorail, I keep thinking of The Simpsons episode dealing with one. :lol:

You're not the only one:)

Lyle Langley: I've built monorails for Ogdenville, Brockway and North Haverbrook - and by gum it sure put them on the map!

I call the big one Bitey.

AlexWaters89
December 20th, 2008, 11:20 AM
:nuts:Even though the Melbourne Magazine is clearly yuppie trash, the 2 ideas that I think would be AWESOME for Melbourne, not to mention necessary given the imminent global warming disasters if we don't act, are the magnetic train (technology that relies on no fossil fuels whatsoever and in japan they've got prototypes moving at pretty impressive speeds already), i think linking such a train to the airport would be a good idea. Its one of the things that always pisses me off about flying home, always having to get a taxi or call a friend etc. The other one that appealed to me was the underwater tidal wave turbine generators; like the ones they started using in England.

:bash:Both these technologies could be built and utilized within 5 years. They're much more efficient and productive than any other energy source. They don't rely on burning petrol!! :bash:

Every other means of transport we're using daily is killing the planet...The reality of global warming will hit and if we're not prepared then we can kiss goodbye to Melbourne and any city nearby the ocean.

Melbourne could lead the world in clean energy production by adopting both the depicted magnetized trains and tidal wave generators, with other possibilities to follow later, most notably geothermal power.:banana:

Swan
December 20th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Those Maglev Trains are very very expensive to build.

invincible
December 20th, 2008, 05:07 PM
magnetic train (technology that relies on no fossil fuels whatsoever and in japan they've got prototypes moving at pretty impressive speeds already)

Maglev trains are just as reliant on fossil fuels as our existing network of electric trains. In other words, they'd be running on coal until some big changes happen to the way electricity is generated in Victoria. That is of course irrelevant to what rail technology is used.

For distances such as between the city and the airport, Maglev would be no more effective than a regular electric train. The record speeds of a maglev train and a conventional electric train are very similar too - 581km/h for maglev and 574km/h for conventional rail. source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_speed_record_for_railed_vehicles)

redbaron_012
December 21st, 2008, 05:02 AM
If we are to have a Fast train why just to the airport ? You have to get there so early and wait, you could stay on the train and be in the heart of Sydney etc....before the plane leaves here.