economic progress.. music to my ears! If that's the case then let the governement buy those residentials on the west side of the fort and let these housing for soldiers on the east side as it is. Who is with me?

Medyo OT but I think I need to respond:

Art III Sec. 9 of the 1987 Constitution: Private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation.

Requisites:
1. Taking of the Property
2. Taking must be for public use
3. Payment of just compensation

It can only be exercised by:
1. National Government
2. Congress
3. Executive (pursuant to a valid delegation through legislation)
4. LGU (through ordinance by the council)
5. Public Utitlities (as may be delegated)
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(based on you basis "economic progress") the offer to purchase prior to the exercise of expropriation is also unconstitutional on the ground that: (oh and another clarification, the "offer to purchase prior to expropriation is mandatory) :)

The legislature is without power to appropriate public revenue for anything but a public purpose... Incidental to the public or to the state, which results from the promotion of private interest and the prosperity of private enterprises or business, does not justify their aid by the use of public money. (Pascual vs. Sec of Public Works G.R. No. L-10405 December 29, 1960)

"Economic progress" is not within the purview of "Public use", hence, any appropriation (in this case, the buying of the land by the government) is not justified. Unless, they actually use the property for a government project.
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Just to clarify :)

^and if I may add before any exercise of the power of eminent domain takes place the area land should be rezoned or reclassified first. This residential area could not be reclassified as commercial or mixed if it is purchased by the government using the taxpayers' money.

mahabang usapan yan, kahit ang supreme court mahihirapan dyan,

mahabang usapan yan, kahit ang supreme court mahihirapan dyan,

^^yes it is and I am not an endorser of eminent domain, but the government or private entities can find ways of acquiring any property. kung ayaw umalis nung mga may bahay duon at ang buong property ay na developed, then they may have to provide ROW for themselves. mas magastos yata ito para sa kanila. ibenta na lang sana sa resonableng halaga para masaya lahat. regards!:cheers:

^^yes it is and I am not an endorser of eminent domain, but the government or private entities can find ways of acquiring any property. kung ayaw umalis nung mga may bahay duon at ang buong property ay na developed, then they may have to provide ROW for themselves. mas magastos yata ito para sa kanila. ibenta na lang sana sa resonableng halaga para masaya lahat. regards!:cheers:

^ Oh that would be fun to watch.. legal land owners and heirs of Combat Engineers of Philippine Army in barangays COMEMBO ( Combat Enlisted Men's Barrio), families of former Scout Rangers in PEMBO (Panthers Enlisted Men's Barrio), former soldiers in REMBO (Riverside Enlisted Men's Barrio) and CEMBO (Central Enlisted Men's Barrio) asking for the Right Of Way for a land that rightfully belongs to them.

I will bring popcorn. :lol:

^ Oh that would be fun to watch.. legal land owners and heirs of Combat Engineers of Philippine Army in barangays COMEMBO ( Combat Enlisted Men's Barrio), families of former Scout Rangers in PEMBO (Panthers Enlisted Men's Barrio), former soldiers in REMBO (Riverside Enlisted Men's Barrio) and CEMBO (Central Enlisted Men's Barrio) asking for the Right Of Way for a land that rightfully belongs to them.

I will bring popcorn. :lol:

kung yung squatters nga sa tabi ng bonifacio civic center ay di mapaalis, sila pang may titulo.

^ Oh that would be fun to watch.. legal land owners and heirs of Combat Engineers of Philippine Army in barangays COMEMBO ( Combat Enlisted Men's Barrio), families of former Scout Rangers in PEMBO (Panthers Enlisted Men's Barrio), former soldiers in REMBO (Riverside Enlisted Men's Barrio) and CEMBO (Central Enlisted Men's Barrio) asking for the Right Of Way for a land that rightfully belongs to them.

I will bring popcorn. :lol:

:)hi @SCUD. Okay, since you seem to know everything. Here's the scenario: Three homeowners did not sell and the entire property around them is owned by an entity that decided to develop and fence around the three homes and that YOU are one of the owners, would you have the right of way? Better start thinking of a way to "fly"! Regards. :cheers:

Lame question. The new owner can not fence the ingress/egress of the original owner who refused to sell the property. The roads here are owned by the city or national government.

Lame question. The new owner can not fence the ingress/egress of the original owner who refused to sell the property. The roads here are owned by the city or national government.

:)yeah, right.:cheers::cheers:

Set your elitist eyes somewhere else, buy those houses in forbes park and dasma and develop the area with skyscrapers. These soldiers need their housing at hindi lahat nabibili ng pera. Not all soldiers are as greedy as some of us here. :)

^^ Why fill Dasma and Forbes Park with skyscrapers?? There should be a balance of the zones in MM otherwise it would be congested as hell. And IMO, tanggalin na lang ang mga IS sa Tondo at ilagay na lang ang mga troops doon. Mas may pakinabang naman ang mga sundalo kaysa sa mga IS diba??

[QUOTE=rubiopr27;82054542]^^ Why fill Dasma and Forbes Park with skyscrapers?? There should be a balance of the zones in MM otherwise it would be congested as hell. And IMO, tanggalin na lang ang mga IS sa Tondo at ilagay na lang ang mga troops doon. Mas may pakinabang naman ang mga sundalo kaysa sa mga IS diba??[/QUOTE

he is just being rhetorical.

Set your elitist eyes somewhere else, buy those houses in forbes park and dasma and develop the area with skyscrapers. These soldiers need their housing at hindi lahat nabibili ng pera. Not all soldiers are as greedy as some of us here. :)

^^Greed has nothing to do with this eminent domain discussion and my Father was a soldier too, stationed at Fort Mckinley during his time. Taking someone's property was irrelevant here. I simply stated what I know about the subject here in the U.S; the meaning or interpretation of eminent domain in the Philippines might be different and I am receptive to listen and learn 'cause we are retiring in the Philippines. We have properties there and we pay for ROW and greed is entirely different from need. Regards!:cheers:

Lame question. The new owner can not fence the ingress/egress of the original owner who refused to sell the property. The roads here are owned by the city or national government.


Yeah thats correct. Kung sakali wala man existing road, I believe pwede sila ask for right of way. Hindi pwede ikulong properties nila.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/Isaric/azs.jpg

sayang yung northwest side.....sana continuous sya na puro subdivision na lang

is that C-6 the white line in the right side?

ot: patapos na ang mga poste sa gagawing fly over from 32nd ave to c5 going to pasig,cainta,qc,marikina and antipolo

:)hi @SCUD. Okay, since you seem to know everything. Here's the scenario: Three homeowners did not sell and the entire property around them is owned by an entity that decided to develop and fence around the three homes and that YOU are one of the owners, would you have the right of way? Better start thinking of a way to "fly"! Regards. :cheers:

Lame question. The new owner can not fence the ingress/egress of the original owner who refused to sell the property. The roads here are owned by the city or national government.

Sir SCUD is correct. Roads are unalienable properties of the government. They cannot be sold to private entities, unless a proper diversion road is allocated for those who previously use the road. (Local Government Code Sec. 21, par (a) ... and when necessary, an adequate substitute for the public facility that is subject for closure is provided)

Properties of the public dominion devoted to public use and made available to the public in general are outside the commerce of man and cannot be disposed of or leased by the Local Government Unit to private persons. (Rufus Rodriguez LGC 5th ed.)

So if real estate developers buy out the properties there one by one, they CANNOT close the road connecting to the houses on the ground it is not within their powers to close any road, whether LGU road or national road. So the scenarios you see in China are impossible here, especially for duly titled properties who already have access to any government roads.

Peace :)
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edit: IF the developers can buy out every single piece of property in the area, then I guess they can now lobby the local council to close the roads on the ground that they are no longer needed and used for any public use (of course subject to just compensation, if the roads will also be bought by the developers). The roads can now be sold by the local government as they are now "Patrimonial Properties" of the local government, that can now be alienated. (so long as the roads ARE NO LONGER intended for public use, in this case, vehicular traffic) (Macasiano vs. Diokno 211 SCRA 464)

Just a reminder, my discussions above are only applicable to local roads owned by Local Government Units. Sale/closure of National Roads and properties owned by the National Government are a whole different scenario, because you have to get the congress in the picture. Lease of National Government properties are also a different scenario. :)

Sir SCUD is correct. Roads are unalienable properties of the government. They cannot be sold to private entities, unless a proper diversion road is allocated for those who previously use the road. (Local Government Code Sec. 21, par (a) ... and when necessary, an adequate substitute for the public facility that is subject for closure is provided)

Properties of the public dominion devoted to public use and made available to the public in general are outside the commerce of man and cannot be disposed of or leased by the Local Government Unit to private persons. (Rufus Rodriguez LGC 5th ed.)

So if real estate developers buy out the properties there one by one, they CANNOT close the road connecting to the houses on the ground it is not within their powers to close any road, whether LGU road or national road. So the scenarios you see in China are impossible here, especially for duly titled properties who already have access to any government roads.

Peace :)
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edit: IF the developers can buy out every single piece of property in the area, then I guess they can now lobby the local council to close the roads on the ground that they are no longer needed and used for any public use (of course subject to just compensation, if the roads will also be bought by the developers). The roads can now be sold by the local government as they are now "Patrimonial Properties" of the local government, that can now be alienated. (so long as the roads ARE NO LONGER intended for public use, in this case, vehicular traffic) (Macasiano vs. Diokno 211 SCRA 464)

Just a reminder, my discussions above are only applicable to local roads owned by Local Government Units. Sale/closure of National Roads and properties owned by the National Government are a whole different scenario, because you have to get the congress in the picture. Lease of National Government properties are also a different scenario. :)

:)greetings and thanks. so, there are still ways for the government/developers to exercise eminent domain. my assertion is based on the WHOLE interpretation of the eminent domain law. i rest my case and thanks again!:cheers::cheers:

:)greetings and thanks. so, there are still ways for the government/developers to exercise eminent domain. my assertion is based on the WHOLE interpretation of the eminent domain law. i rest my case and thanks again!:cheers::cheers:

WRONG. The Road Right of Way of citizens has the same power as the Eminent Domain of the government. Private developers has no power of eminent domain.


If you are private owner of the lot and I dont have direct access to the city or national road, you have to provide me the road right of way wether you like it or not. I will pay you compensation base on market value or the government will buy a portion and exercise their power to provide us road thru eminent domain. No ifs and buts, you cant refuse.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/enterprise/view/20080401-127699/Handle-right-of-way-problems-carefully

For more understandings of right of way problems, please read the link

WRONG. The Road Right of Way of citizens has the same power as the Eminent Domain of the government. Private developers has no power of eminent domain.


If you are private owner of the lot and I dont have direct access to the city or national road, you have to provide me the road right of way wether you like it or not. I will pay you compensation base on market value or the government will buy a portion and exercise their power to provide us road thru eminent domain. No ifs and buts, you cant refuse.

:cheers:i give up. read the entire context of the subject matter and the meaning of eminent domain. whetheror not it's thru eminent domain, the point is that if a few homeowners decided not to sell, it could be costly for them or they might not have direct access from their houses to the roads leading to the private establishment..in this case the Grand Hyatt area. why do you think "we", except you maybe, are just ordinary citizens? regards!:)

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/cebudailynews/enterprise/view/20080401-127699/Handle-right-of-way-problems-carefully

For more understandings of right of way problems, please read the link

:cheers:thanks for providing this educational info on right of way. now please concentrate on the meaning of "dominant and servient properties" or the entire subject on ROW. as for me, progress is great but not thru people displacement/sacrifices just for the sake of making tons of money. this is not my "cup of tea" sort of speak! regards.:cheers::cheers:

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:cheers:i give up. read the entire context of the subject matter and the meaning of eminent domain. whetheror not it's thru eminent domain, the point is that if a few homeowners decided not to sell, it could be costly for them or they might not have direct access from their houses to the roads leading to the private establishment..in this case the Grand Hyatt area. why do you think "we", except you maybe, are just ordinary citizens? regards!:)

All filipino citizens have their basic right to road access, it is not for us to provide our own roads. We pay taxes, the government build roads..that's why you have your representative in Philippine congress and their pork barrel to fund the project, the city council to name th street and NAMRIA to update the Maps.

^^ As far as I know, hindi po Illegal Settlers yan. They have valid titles to their properties. Kahit yung mga nasa tapat ng BGC on the other side of C5. Pati din yung mga nasa labas ng McKinley, also have valid titles.

Only way to get them off there, is to buy out their land. Government can't do it (through expropriation) since it's not going to be used for public purposes, so the private entities there can negotiate all they want, but they can't compel these people to sell their properties.

i dont think these people will sell their properties unless of course na talgang bong bonga young offer thaty they cant resist...otherwise they will never sell their attractive properties sitting near a very nice and upscale area

i dont think these people will sell their properties unless of course na talgang bong bonga young offer thaty they cant resist...otherwise they will never sell their attractive properties sitting near a very nice and upscale area

:)exactly @mambo. that's what these people are waiting for. now who is greedy? as i mentioned prior, we used to live with these people when when my father was based at now Fort Boni and i don't want anything adverse happened to them. all i know is that anything is possible, especially when there's money involved. thanks and regards!:cheers:

All filipino citizens have their basic right to road access, it is not for us to provide our own roads. We pay taxes, the government build roads..that's why you have your representative in Philippine congress and their pork barrel to fund the project, the city council to name th street and NAMRIA to update the Maps.

:)equal rights MUST be afforded to anyone, rich or poor, period. we need someone like you in many Philippine barrios to help the indigents have decent roads and ammenities to be considered citizens. Yeah, pork barrel.. Isn't it for politicians and constituents to enjoy and not to be shared with the poor? Who are we kidding here? I have politician relatives and we disassociate ourselves with them, to be honest. I pray for better things for the Philippines and her people. Thank God kahit papaano nakakatulong din kami. Regards!:cheers:

:)equal rights MUST be afforded to anyone, rich or poor, period. we need someone like you in many Philippine barrios to help the indigents have decent roads and ammenities to be considered citizens. Yeah, pork barrel.. Isn't it for politicians and constituents to enjoy and not to be shared with the poor? Who are we kidding here? I have politician relatives and we disassociate ourselves with them, to be honest. I pray for better things for the Philippines and her people. Thank God kahit papaano nakakatulong din kami. Reagrds!:cheers:

Equal rights now, eh? Why the 180degree turn? From your previous posts pinapalabas mo there's no other options for them but sell their property and access to the road right iof way would be too costly for them. Well, good thing you did not become a politician like your relative, you could have been worse. Former combat engineers who used to build roads and bridges in conflict areas are being now denied of their own road right of way to their properties. Sad irony, right?

:)exactly @mambo. that's what these people are waiting for. now who is greedy? as i mentioned prior, we used to live with these people when when my father was based at now Fort Boni and i don't want anything adverse happened to them. all i know is that anything is possible, especially when there's money involved. thanks and regards!:cheers:

Not all people are as money-hungry as you are bud, you might even sell your soul when there's money involved..anything is possible as you said

Not all people are as money-hungry as you are bud, you might even sell your soul when there's money involved..anything is possible as you said

:)hi @SCUD. you got it all wrong my friend and you do not know me yet. I may be blessed and fortunate for what I have accomplished but I worked my rearend off for it all more than all of you in your family put together. I have helped people in remote areas of the Philippines in providing life sustaining necessities, like clean drinking water from deep wells, and I do not ask anything in return but for them to help others in need when possible. What about you? I've read your posts in many forums and I can tell that you are a legend in your mind. I AM IMPRESSED and you deserve a medal. Katulad ka rin nung isang babaeng taga Canada na lumaki ang ulo sa mga konting biyaya nya at inatake na lahat nating kabayan sa Pinas. I have relatives in Toronto and they are not braggart like you. you top them all... tsk..tsk..tsk..grow up guy!:cheers::cheers:

Equal rights now, eh? Why the 180degree turn? From your previous posts pinapalabas mo there's no other options for them but sell their property and access to the road right iof way would be too costly for them. Well, good thing you did not become a politician like your relative, you could have been worse. Former combat engineers who used to build roads and bridges in conflict areas are being now denied of their own road right of way to their properties. Sad irony, right?

:)@SCUD. this is a forum for sharing ideas and knowledge with the participants and you must be open minded. but instead, you are attacking me personally. you may be a combat engineer but i doubt if you been to a real war my friend other than combating dirt, rocks and boulders off a beaten path. Me? just a U.S Marine vietnam veteran with much higher education than you. Show me you credentials and I will show you mine.. i regret for lowering myself to you level!...regards and God bless!:cheers:

:)hi @SCUD. you got it all wrong my friend and you do not know me yet. I may be blessed and fortunate for what I have accomplished but I worked my rearend off for it all more than all of you in your family put together. I have helped people in remote areas of the Philippines in providing life sustaining necessities, like clean drinking water from deep wells, and I do not ask anything in return but for them to help others in need when possible. What about you? I've read your posts in many forums and I can tell taht you are a legend in your mind. I AM IMPRESSED and you deserve a medal. Katulad ka rin nung isang babaeng taga Canada na lumaki ang ulo sa mga konting biyaya nya at inatake na lahat nating kabayan sa Pinas. tsk..tsk..tsk..grow up guy!:cheers::cheers:

Ey dude, what Im having now are all fruits of my labor and hardwork, hindi mo pwedeng ipagyabang s akin ang mga nagawa mo sa pilipinas dahil nalampasan ko na yan. I was onc a commisioned officer in NAMRIA and a non combatant engineer so dont blame me kung mainis ka dahil alam ko ang sinasabi ko re eminent domain and road right of way. You're in Skyscrapercity forum, where most of the topics are engineering and architecture related, karamihan s mga posts ko are based on my education and experience, you can ignore me if you want or call them bs and I woudnt care.. but if you try to debate me sa mga issues na alam ko eh ano ang gusto mong gawin ko? I dont go to health and medicine forum or legal forum at makipagdebate sa mga doctors and lawyers dahil siguradong magmumukha akong tanga. Tama ba?

:)@SCUD. this is a forum for sharing ideas and knowledge with the participants and you must be open minded. but instead, you are attacking me personally. you may be a combat engineer but i doubt if you been to a real war my friend other than combating dirt, rocks and boulders off a beaten path. Me? just a U.S Marine vietnam veteran with much higher education than you. Show me you credentials and I will show you mine.. i regret for lowering myself to you level!...regards and God bless!:cheers:

Backread all my posts from previous page and tell me when did I attack you personally, reread your post again at basahin mo ang mga insinuation mo against me. All my posts were about the eminent domain and right of way at ikaw ang unang napikon, my posts were in defence of these Filipino soldiers and their basic rights. You told me anything is possible when money is involved, an insinuation that these soldiers can be bought. You and I were both soldiers, so what makes you different from me. Ibig sabihin nabibili ka rin lang ng pera.

Let me tell you something about us, consider yourself lucky you are under your beloved United States, some enlisted men I used to work with had nothing to show when they retire except the piece of land outside fort bonifacio probably smaller than your condominium units, they resist the money being offered to them para may ipamana ang lupa sa mga anak. You want something to buy? get those generals' mansions inside the fort or the navy officers lot. Telling us that these former enlisted people should better off selling their properties dahil wala silang right of way is not only disrespect but also shows the arrogant face of you american militaries. I respect these people more who have very little to show than you war freak american servicemen spending their taxpayers money wasting bullets.

Respect begets respect buddy. regards, God Bless and cheers!! :cheers:

let' just go back grand hyatt manila forum guys.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/Isaric/azs.jpg

saan nga banda yung grand hyatt

sana yung part na before kalayaan ave part pa rin ng global city

looks like global city is surrounded by swarming squatters

Backread all my posts from previous page and tell me when did I attack you personally, reread your post again at basahin mo ang mga insinuation mo against me. All my posts were about the eminent domain and right of way at ikaw ang unang napikon, my posts were in defence of these Filipino soldiers and their basic rights. You told me anything is possible when money is involved, an insinuation that these soldiers can be bought. You and I were both soldiers, so what makes you different from me. Ibig sabihin nabibili ka rin lang ng pera.

^^That's fact and it's not about me or the homeowners, but those wealthy establishments that drive the economy and will do things within their power. Sabi nga nila.. money talks and bs walks! You are being annoyed by your own words.

Let me tell you something about us, consider yourself lucky you are under your beloved United States, some enlisted men I used to work with had nothing to show when they retire except the piece of land outside fort bonifacio probably smaller than your condominium units, they resist the money being offered to them para may ipamana ang lupa sa mga anak. You want something to buy? get those generals' mansions inside the fort or the navy officers lot. Telling us that these former enlisted people should better off selling their properties dahil wala silang right of way is not only disrespect but also shows the arrogant face of you american militaries. I respect these people more who have very little to show than you war freak american servicemen spending their taxpayers money wasting bullets.

Respect begets respect buddy. regards, God Bless and cheers!! :cheers:

:cheers:peace brother and let's not get carried away with insults and it shows you have a "chip on your shoulder". somehow you are off base in your interpretation of our discussions. let's be fair and honest. i did not get miffed; you did and started insulting me personally. Anyway, it's all said and done, and let's set all that aside. And my friend, I count all my blessings, big or small! Glad you know the word RESPECT. Regards.:):)

sana yung part na before kalayaan ave part pa rin ng global city

looks like global city is surrounded by swarming squatters

:ohno::ohno:here we go again. let's concentrate on Global City, not the squatters. they have been there even before any upscale development was formulated in ones mind. Kahit saan kayo pumunta, meron niyan. They are part of us. Just remember...NO ONE wants to be poor! regards and God bless.:cheers::cheers:

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:ohno::ohno:here we go again. let's concentrate on Global City, not the squatters. they have been there even before any upscale development was formulated in ones mind. Kahit saan kayo pumunta, meron niyan. They are part of us. Just remember...NO ONE wants to be poor! regards and God bless.:cheers::cheers:


agree! sabi nga ng isang author: "the best way to help the poor is to not become one of them." so let's help bgc grow and build more of it... the rising water will lift everybody. :)

sana yung part na before kalayaan ave part pa rin ng global city

looks like global city is surrounded by swarming squatters

hindi squatters yung paligid ng bgc, titulado ang mga lupa nila. doon lang sa ibaba ng bonifacio civic center may konting squatters,

hindi squatters yung paligid ng bgc, titulado ang mga lupa nila. doon lang sa ibaba ng bonifacio civic center may konting squatters,

saan yung civic center

I hope the people living in that area around BGC get offered big money for there properties, they are probably holding out for that. Good luck to them.

i am just wondering how the grand hyatt can entice guest when the first thing they see when they open their windows are a bunch of squatters

i am just wondering how the grand hyatt can entice guest when the first thing they see when they open their windows are a bunch of squatters

sabi ng di sila squatters dahil may titulo ang lupa nila. the proposed civic center is the fenced in area along c5 ramp (26th st gate) behind serendra ll high rise and across fr market 2 parking lot. below the civic center is a small squatter colony abutting american cemetery chain link fence.

agree! sabi nga ng isang author: "the best way to help the poor is to not become one of them." so let's help bgc grow and build more of it... the rising water will lift everybody. :)


:):cheers:thank you @nez. regards and God bless!:cheers::cheers::cheers:

sabi ng di sila squatters dahil may titulo ang lupa nila. the proposed civic center is the fenced in area along c5 ramp (26th st gate) behind serendra ll high rise and across fr market 2 parking lot. below the civic center is a small squatter colony abutting american cemetery chain link fence.

akala ko SM yun

akala ko SM yun
oo yung sm nasa civic center complex

oo yung sm nasa civic center complex

illipat ba duon ang cityhall

i am just wondering how the grand hyatt can entice guest when the first thing they see when they open their windows are a bunch of squatters

I agree with you and it would be better if this wasn't the situation but if you look around Manila there are many eye sores but people still come and the higher you go in the buildings the eye sore gets bigger. If the developers want that land thy should offer them more money and they will go. Maybe they will buy a condo in The Fort.

i am just wondering how the grand hyatt can entice guest when the first thing they see when they open their windows are a bunch of squatters

Dont forget that the Rockwell also overlooks the Laperal compound and yet it is one of the most coveted real estate properties in the country. We should not underestimate our hardworking kababayans who live in the fringes of the Fort.

People are not usually aware of the root of COMEMBO, REMBO, CEMBO, etc. which are neighborhoods that almost surrounds Ft. Bonifacio (McKinley). EM stands for Enlisted Men, hence soldiers. These are excellent citizens that have lived in the area since Pres. Quezon and thus not illegal occupiers. Hence to avoid offending anybody, the area should be called Enlisted Men's Neighborhood, not squatters.

I agree with you and it would be better if this wasn't the situation but if you look around Manila there are many eye sores but people still come and the higher you go in the buildings the eye sore gets bigger. If the developers want that land thy should offer them more money and they will go. Maybe they will buy a condo in The Fort.

kaya siguro the first lots to go in the fort are the ones beside the golf club.....kasi yun walang eyesore

kaya siguro the first lots to go in the fort are the ones beside the golf club.....kasi yun walang eyesore

Yes you maybe right, but not all condo's have views of the golf course.

Yes you maybe right, but not all condo's have views of the golf course.

and the middle ones are last to be sold kasi halos wala nang natirang view

The Grand Hyatt Hotel in Fort Bonifacio looks really glassy and classy based on the model! I just hope the design/finish sticks and not value engineer the structure's finishing when it finally comes to fruition. :okay: :okay:

http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/240311_GN-033.jpg
http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/240311_GN-022.jpg
http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/240311_GN-041.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg

could someone show saan sya specifically sa map

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg

Super lucky talaga youn mga homes sa side ng Grand Hyatt.
I can see them rent rooms at an affordable but good price for people who works in BGC.

Imagine if you have a 100 sqm lot. How much is that if someone wants to sell that property. P50k-P100k? P5M to P10M :)

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Super lucky talaga youn mga homes sa side ng Grand Hyatt.
I can see them rent rooms at an affordable but good price for people who works in BGC.

Imagine if you have a 100 sqm lot. How much is that if someone wants to sell that property. P50k-P100k? P5M to P10M :)
very lucky..they wont need to drive to the Hyatt and pay P100 per hour parking..they can just walk and enjoy what will be a great buffet im sure..very very lucky.

i am amazed that Hyatt management when surveying the property approved this mandate with those houses there. This is the highest tier accommodation in their portfolio. When a customer sees that they wont know its Federal land as the owner or BGC as the administrator or taguig..they will just know its a Grand Hyatt and that will be the view..unless of course its the condos that will be on that side of the building and facing Kalayaan Street,

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg

Super lucky talaga youn mga homes sa side ng Grand Hyatt.
I can see them rent rooms at an affordable but good price for people who works in BGC.

Imagine if you have a 100 sqm lot. How much is that if someone wants to sell that property. P50k-P100k? P5M to P10M :)

thanks....ganda ng dulo ng bonifacio

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg

^^ i am amazed that Hyatt management when surveying the property approved this mandate with those houses there. This is the highest tier accommodation in their portfolio. When a customer sees that they wont know its Federal land as the owner or BGC as the administrator or taguig..they will just know its a Grand Hyatt and that will be the view..unless of course its the condos that will be on that side of the building and facing Kalayaan Street,

^^ Yup the view/neighborhood is really going to be such an "ambiance buster" for The Grand Hyatt. In reality these said homes on the left protruding into this developing area should just be bought out and commercially developed. They can even perhaps connect the roadway into 5th Ave for better traffic flow in, around and out of Fort Bonifacio. Just that as it is, the road system ends at 32nd St. (Bottle neck) instead of connecting to 5th Ave / Lawton Ave. due to the said neighborhood, which is a bit of an eyesore too for those who will be staying in the future Grand Hyatt who's rooms will be facing the said neighborhood. That's why the Shang location is really a much better location than this for a hotel imho because there's not an eyesore to see and you'll be right in the middle of it all as soon as you step out of the Hotel.

oo nga....welcome to the grand hyatt, across the street is the squatter colonies where we source our cheap labor

I've started saving na for my future condo. Php20K for the month of July. :banana:

^^ Yup the view/neighborhood is really going to be such an "ambiance buster" for The Grand Hyatt. In reality these said homes on the left protruding into this developing area should just be bought out and commercially developed. They can even perhaps connect the roadway into 5th Ave for better traffic flow in, around and out of Fort Bonifacio. Just that as it is, the road system ends at 32nd St. (Bottle neck) instead of connecting to 5th Ave / Lawton Ave. due to the said neighborhood, which is a bit of an eyesore too for those who will be staying in the future Grand Hyatt who's rooms will be facing the said neighborhood. That's why the Shang location is really a much better location than this for a hotel imho because there's not an eyesore to see and you'll be right in the middle of it all as soon as you step out of the Hotel.
cant even invent the potemkin village concept since any fence built still cannot hide the reality of the view from the hyatt upper floors.this is also the same issue for Serendra 2.

oo nga....welcome to the grand hyatt, across the street is the squatter colonies where we source our cheap labor

haha :lol:

..............

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg

Super lucky talaga youn mga homes sa side ng Grand Hyatt.
I can see them rent rooms at an affordable but good price for people who works in BGC.

Imagine if you have a 100 sqm lot. How much is that if someone wants to sell that property. P50k-P100k? P5M to P10M :)
its hard to say based on todays PDI advertisement but those houses may be demolished with a Federal land condo called Park West..what is interesting is the advertisement says LOCATED IN BOTH FORT BONIFACIO AND TAGUIG............those houses I presume are in Makati since there were no occupants remaining in the original BGC development...and the picture shows an elevated covered footbridge linking Grand Hyatt with the Park West condo

I have seen the presentation from the soft launching of Park West (http://parkwestglobalcity.com/), a condominium project connected to the Grand Hyatt. Below is the facade of Park West next to Grand Hyatt from http://parkwestglobalcity.com/

http://federalcondos.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/pw-devt-plan.jpg?w=343&h=389&h=373

One Uptown Place vs Park West :banana:

Clear winners would be the early investors in BGC. Avida BGC seems to be a good deal right now. It looks like all new developments are suppose to be really high end projects.

ang park west ata ay yung mismong tapat ng lexus bago sa mga bahay

One Uptown Place vs Park West :banana:

Clear winners would be the early investors in BGC. Avida BGC seems to be a good deal right now. It looks like all new developments are suppose to be really high end projects.

Avida BGC is not high end.

Avida BGC is not high end.

I think it's not what he meant by that.

ang park west ata ay yung mismong tapat ng lexus bago sa mga bahay

I think it's the lot beside Grand Hyatt.

Im just wondering why the condos in one uptown and park west that cost 100k/sqm that's supposedly high end cost so much less than beaufort, west tower and arya residences. Fete is out of this world at 300k per sqm.

On another topic, grand hyatt view of the Pitogo property in Makati will be blocked by the new Park West condo. The west view of Park West was made into a firewall. No windows was made to view Barangay Pitogo. So it seems Federal Land anticipated this also.Good for them!!!!

just got email promo from Park West agent 3,515,814 peso 36sqm unit after 3.5% discount. 15,000 per month for 12 months increasing to 18k (12), 22k (12),27k (12) then balance. Maybe I go check this out next week.

Im just wondering why the condos in one uptown and park west that cost 100k/sqm that's supposedly high end cost so much less than beaufort, west tower and arya residences. Fete is out of this world at 300k per sqm.

On another topic, grand hyatt view of the Pitogo property in Makati will be blocked by the new Park West condo. The west view of Park West was made into a firewall. No windows was made to view Barangay Pitogo. So it seems Federal Land anticipated this also.Good for them!!!!

mautak

mautak
pero parang sinabi sa mahirap "kiss my butt".

Avida BGC is not high end.

I think it's not what he meant by that.

watcher09 is correct.
Avida BGC is not high end. It is the lowest priced condo in that area. When these high end condos start increasing in price, the value of Avida BGC will easily be pulled up. Avida BGC started pre-selling maybe a year ago 36 sqm for around 2.9M. Imagine the upside for the early Avida BGC investors. Big Winners.

Im just wondering why the condos in one uptown and park west that cost 100k/sqm that's supposedly high end cost so much less than beaufort, west tower and arya residences. Fete is out of this world at 300k per sqm.


Maybe the term "High End" is very loosely used. Maybe Beaufort, West Tower and Arya Residences is on a different High End level compared to Uptown and Park West. P135k/sqm vs P100k/sqm, I'm sure we will see the difference once everything is finished.

If Fete is P300k/sqm then I am really excited to see how that would turn out.

maybe the developers finally realize na wala na silang magogoyo to sell units at 135k/sqm.mayber 100k/sqm is more realistic to think na napakarami na ring units to cater to high end market. anyway, Mall ba yung nasa podium ng Park west?

^^^^

The facade of the podium looks like a mall. If ever, this will be the 5th mall
at the Fort after Market2, BHS, SM Aura, and Uptown mall.

I have seen the presentation from the soft launching of Park West (http://parkwestglobalcity.com/), a condominium project connected to the Grand Hyatt. Below is the facade of Park West next to Grand Hyatt from http://parkwestglobalcity.com/

http://federalcondos.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/pw-devt-plan.jpg?w=343&h=389&h=373

Im just wondering why the condos in one uptown and park west that cost 100k/sqm that's supposedly high end cost so much less than beaufort, west tower and arya residences. Fete is out of this world at 300k per sqm.


^^ Yup I agree Fete's asking price is indeed out of this world especially given the current global financial/market conditions. Who will be their target market kaya? That one we'll really have to wait and see. Anyway the 100K/SQM asking price in those 2 North Boni condo projects mentioned visavis let's say the 130K/SQM asking price in those 2 BGC condo projects mentioned can be partly attributed to the difference of the actual land/lot price between North Boni and BGC lots. Mas mahal din naman kasi lots sa BGC kaysa sa North Boni eh so to start with duon palang apples to oranges na yung comparison kung tutuusin. Moreover we also have to really consider the kind of finishing and materials that will end up being used for the respective projects. After all not all so-called "high-end condos" are created equal. It's all relative. Lots of factors/variables to consider.


maybe the developers finally realize na wala na silang magogoyo to sell units at 135k/sqm.mayber 100k/sqm is more realistic to think na napakarami na ring units to cater to high end market.

^^ They may also be adjusting to market conditions especially considering what's happening in the global financial/market. Afterall who is still willing to buy at these prices especially during these uncertain times? Guess it depends on one's risk aversion. Like any market, the condo market is also driven by supply and demand...very dynamic. Simplistically if the demand is no longer there for whatever reason, sales figures will reflect that and these developers will have to adjust or stop planning/marketing/selling/building condo projects for the time being because they are not in the market of building to lose money. Most developers must also sell enough units first before they start construction so if the project does not sell well to begin with then they just put the project on hold or not build (and hopefully give the money back). Now for projects that have already started pre-selling and have broken ground, well normally it's those projects that will be deliverable in the next no. of years still that will likely be the most vulnerable to be badly hit if and when the real estate market turns for the worse. It's for these buyers that I fear the most because the developer may not be able to deliver and worse the buyers may not get their money back if the developer goes bankrupt. This is the risk in buying during pre-selling for any project.

If your reason is correct that the cost of land in North Boni is very much cheaper now, I expect a ton of developments in the area for the reason being that they can offer more affordable units that do not compromise quality. Federal Land and MW has an opportunity to cash in by owning land in a high growth area with low land cost.

Imagine 100k vs 130k vs 300k. In this global economy people will always flock to value and quality.



^^ Yup I agree Fete's asking price is indeed out of this world especially given the current global financial/market conditions. Who will be their target market kaya? That one we'll really have to wait and see. Anyway the 100K/SQM asking price in those 2 North Boni condo projects mentioned visavis let's say the 130K/SQM asking price in those 2 BGC condo projects mentioned can be partly attributed to the difference of the actual land/lot price between North Boni and BGC lots. Mas mahal din naman kasi lots sa BGC kaysa sa North Boni eh so to start with duon palang apples to oranges na yung comparison kung tutuusin. Moreover we also have to really consider the kind of finishing and materials that will end up being used for the respective projects. After all not all so-called "high-end condos" are created equal. It's all relative. Lots of factors/variables to consider.




^^ They may also be adjusting to market conditions especially considering what's happening in the global financial/market. Afterall who is still willing to buy at these prices especially during these uncertain times? Guess it depends on one's risk aversion. Like any market, the condo market is also driven by supply and demand...very dynamic. Simplistically if the demand is no longer there for whatever reason, sales figures will reflect that and these developers will have to adjust or stop planning/marketing/selling/building condo projects for the time being because they are not in the market of building to lose money. Most developers must also sell enough units first before they start construction so if the project does not sell well to begin with then they just put the project on hold or not build (and hopefully give the money back). Now for projects that have already started pre-selling and have broken ground, well normally it's those projects that will be deliverable in the next no. of years still that will likely be the most vulnerable to be badly hit if and when the real estate market turns for the worse. It's for these buyers that I fear the most because the developer may not be able to deliver and worse the buyers may not get their money back if the developer goes bankrupt. This is the risk in buying during pre-selling for any project.

maybe the developers finally realize na wala na silang magogoyo to sell units at 135k/sqm.mayber 100k/sqm is more realistic to think na napakarami na ring units to cater to high end market. anyway, Mall ba yung nasa podium ng Park west?


Not only that, there are large discounts of as much as 1.5M depending on the payment term. I don't think Uptown can beat the current promo discounts Federal Land is offering for Park West Towers:

1-Brm flat = 36sqm (discount of as much 700k)
2-Brm flat = 55sqm (discount of as much 1M)
2-Brm flat = 70sqm (discount of as much 1.5M)

For sample computations, just PM me. The promo is until August 31, 2011 only.

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg


^^ In reality these said homes on the left which protrudes into this developing area should really be just bought out and commercially developed. They can even perhaps connect the roadway into 5th Ave for better traffic flow in, around and out of Fort Bonifacio. Just that as it is, the road system ends at 32nd St. instead of connecting to 5th Ave / Lawton Ave. due to the said neighborhood. Sobrang traffic na nga diyan sa 32nd St and will only get worse I imagine when the roads in North Boni finally start getting connected directly to 32nd St. That's definitely where the bottle neck will be especially after the re-orientation of the City Center when Ayala built Boni High Street. City planners have to do something to mitigate and improve traffic flow along 32nd St.

^^ Eventually, mawawala din yon because it's BGC property and a new road will be open towards EDSA (This would be Jacinto St in the map)...
http://parkwestglobalcity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/pw-vicinity-map.jpg


^^ Thanks for the inside info. That's good to know.

maybe the developers finally realize na wala na silang magogoyo to sell units at 135k/sqm.mayber 100k/sqm is more realistic to think na napakarami na ring units to cater to high end market. anyway, Mall ba yung nasa podium ng Park west?

Yes, magiging mall siya. Below is the open floor plan of the 2nd floor.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6058808410_b7e32d7c1b_m.jpg


Here's the artist rendition of the area between Park West and Grand Hyatt.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6058808212_840715254e_m.jpg

^^ Naku with the opening of Jacinto road, sana hindi naman maging tambayan ng mga jologs yung Park West Mall like what has happened to MarketMarket. Just that it might very well have an adverse effect on property/unit values in the Park West residential project if indeed it actually ends up becoming a tambayan ng masa being that the mall is part of the residential building complex itself. Huwag naman sana mangyari ito for the sake of the buyers/investors in this Park West project. Better siguro kung panay restaurants/bars and have just a select few high-end stores (for the discriminating few) in the said mall to better preserve the prestigeous Grand Hyatt ambiance/experience.

^^ fine! hindi kami pupunta jan!

^^ Naku with the opening of Jacinto road, sana hindi naman maging tambayan ng mga jologs yung Park West Mall like what has happened to MarketMarket. Just that it might very well have an adverse effect on property/unit values in the Park West residential project if indeed it actually ends up becoming a tambayan ng masa being that the mall is part of the residential building complex itself. Huwag naman sana mangyari ito for the sake of the buyers/investors in this Park West project. Better siguro kung panay restaurants/bars and have just a select few high-end stores (for the discriminating few) in the said mall to better preserve the prestigeous Grand Hyatt ambiance/experience.

My mistake. The better term is actually retail area. Their powerpoint presentations refer to the areas surrounding Park West and the block where Grand Hyatt and Park East will be located as retail areas. In a way, this area would be likened to a mall, but not like Market Market because Federal Land's plan here is to open high-end retail stores and restaurants. Here's a closer look of that 2nd floor of Park West

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6058808410_b7e32d7c1b_b.jpg

...and that area between Park West and GH...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6058808212_840715254e_b.jpg

....here's another perspective...

http://parkwestglobalcity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/floor-plan.jpg

....and the bottom part of the scale model is the retail area of Grand Hyatt and the future Park East....

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/6065418592_818504e165_b.jpg

...all three, Grand Hyatt (GH), Park West(PW) and Park East(PE), will occupy this area in the future (the previous map posted was not very clear)...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6064927407_eca1d0a9ff_b.jpg

^^yun, sa likod ng mga bahay ang park west, di kasi bumigay ang mga tao dyan....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^yun, sa likod ng mga bahay ang park west, di kasi bumigay ang mga tao dyan....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

the map certainly has a weird shape on it

kaya siguro binili ng metrobank at a low price kasi ang pangit ng katabi

Thank You for the clarification scamingue!

My mistake. The better term is actually retail area. Their powerpoint presentations refer to the areas surrounding Park West and the block where Grand Hyatt and Park East will be located as retail areas. In a way, this area would be likened to a mall, but not like Market Market because Federal Land's plan here is to open high-end retail stores and restaurants. Here's a closer look of that 2nd floor of Park West

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6058808410_b7e32d7c1b_b.jpg

...and that area between Park West and GH...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6058808212_840715254e_b.jpg

....here's another perspective...

http://parkwestglobalcity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/floor-plan.jpg

....and the bottom part of the scale model is the retail area of Grand Hyatt and the future Park East....

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/6065418592_818504e165_b.jpg

...all three, Grand Hyatt (GH), Park West(PW) and Park East(PE), will occupy this area in the future (the previous map posted was not very clear)...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6064927407_eca1d0a9ff_b.jpg

the map certainly has a weird shape on it

kaya siguro binili ng metrobank at a low price kasi ang pangit ng katabi


The houses on the left will soon be cleared. A price of more than 100k per sqm sa PW is not mura. They have already planned how this area would like. So, I don't think this area here would stay as it is.

That particular map just shows what that area looks like now. But as shown in another version of the map, there will be 7th and 6th streets here.

We also can't say that the view is bad. The view of Hyatt facing West will be partly covered by Park West from floors 1 to 40. But after the 40the floor, your view is the Metro. If Grand Hyatt is 66 floors, there will be 180 degrees view from 41st floor up. Also, when you're at the 41st floor up, you won't anymore pay attention to the roofs of the houses below. What you will see is the view of Rockwell beyond, sunset, Makati, and Mandaluyong/ Ortigas. No buildings will block your view. If your facing East naman, there will be an 180 degress view of Uptown and inner global city.

Just to share my experience when I was at a friend's unit in Joya Tower in Rockwell. Her unit is at the 41st floor facing Mandaluyong. When you're at the ground you think the view of the houses is distracting your view, but when you're at that floor, the perspective changes and you see the whole of Manila and all the skyscrapers beyond Mandaluyong. The once dirty Pasig now looks very nice from up there because all you see is it's shape and the reflection of the sun or the buildings nearby. And the roofs would all look like a collage of different colors and shapes.

Parang tula na to pero totoo nag iiba ang view at maganda. Kung tutuusin, mahal din ang Joya :)

may park east pa ha, sa likod ng GH

may park east pa ha, sa likod ng GH

actually, PE will share the same block as GH. Below is the view from 7th street:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6069162604_272abcac61_b.jpg

Park West and One Uptown are good buys. These projects are priced very competitively. One Uptown even upgraded their offering to included furnishings and appliances.

I expect them to sell these projects very fast. I hope that they can sell more projects in the area so North Boni can develop as an alternative to High Street!

Im also quite excited between the rivalry of Grand Hyatt and Shangrila for the High End Customers. BGC is starting to feel like a modern super city!

The houses on the left will soon be cleared. A price of more than 100k per sqm sa PW is not mura. They have already planned how this area would like. So, I don't think this area here would stay as it is.

That particular map just shows what that area looks like now. But as shown in another version of the map, there will be 7th and 6th streets here.

We also can't say that the view is bad. The view of Hyatt facing West will be partly covered by Park West from floors 1 to 40. But after the 40the floor, your view is the Metro. If Grand Hyatt is 66 floors, there will be 180 degrees view from 41st floor up. Also, when you're at the 41st floor up, you won't anymore pay attention to the roofs of the houses below. What you will see is the view of Rockwell beyond, sunset, Makati, and Mandaluyong/ Ortigas. No buildings will block your view. If your facing East naman, there will be an 180 degress view of Uptown and inner global city.

Just to share my experience when I was at a friend's unit in Joya Tower in Rockwell. Her unit is at the 41st floor facing Mandaluyong. When you're at the ground you think the view of the houses is distracting your view, but when you're at that floor, the perspective changes and you see the whole of Manila and all the skyscrapers beyond Mandaluyong. The once dirty Pasig now looks very nice from up there because all you see is it's shape and the reflection of the sun or the buildings nearby. And the roofs would all look like a collage of different colors and shapes.

Parang tula na to pero totoo nag iiba ang view at maganda. Kung tutuusin, mahal din ang Joya :)

at least they are honest in showing that 6th street is not continuous:banana:

at least they are honest in showing that 6th street is not continuous:banana:

6th street is continuous. and so is 7th street. the comment above was only meant to describe the view beyond BGC if you're from the higher floors in GH.

6th street is continuous. and so is 7th street. the comment above was only meant to describe the view beyond BGC if you're from the higher floors in GH.

look at the map and the photo....clearly 6th street is cut in the middle:banana:

6th street is continuous. and so is 7th street. the comment above was only meant to describe the view beyond BGC if you're from the higher floors in GH.


6th street will be continuous. and so will 7th street. the comment above was only meant to describe the view beyond BGC if you're from the higher floors in GH. :)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6193/6058808410_b7e32d7c1b_b.jpg


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6064927407_eca1d0a9ff_b.jpg

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6458/f1vmapwitheastwestsuper.jpg


I wonder why the trapezoidal shape of the 2nd floor plan (first pic) assumes the actual vacant lot shape a shown in the 2nd and 3rd images.
Maybe they're still working on the possible purchase of the adjacent properties when the floor plans were done.

Hope they get the said adjacent lots.

6th street will be continuous. and so will 7th street. the comment above was only meant to describe the view beyond BGC if you're from the higher floors in GH. :)

Thanks Engineer for the correction! Yeah that's correct.

6th street will be continuous. and so will 7th street. the comment above was only meant to describe the view beyond BGC if you're from the higher floors in GH. :)

I’m ok with scamingue’s original statement, since this is a forum after all, anything goes, I suppose, no big deal. I’m not perfect myself. Your corrections to his choice of words are ok with me too. But go along with me on this one, and for the sake of playing grammar police here….

How about this one….

“The 6th street will be continuous, and the same goes with the 7th street. the comment above………” :)

Peace to all!

Haha you don't get it man.
It's not about correcting grammar, but correcting statement.
As what miss phils said, "clearly 6th street is cut in the middle," you see some portion
of 6th and 7th streets aren't existing at the present time, gagawin pa lang :)

peace

it's not miss phils.....it's miss the phils....wala tayo sa beauty pagent

^^ Sorry, miss the phils. :)
Btw, i think Park East will be better than Park West, location-wise.

Haha you don't get it man.
It's not about correcting grammar, but correcting statement.
As what miss phils said, "clearly 6th street is cut in the middle," you see some portion
of 6th and 7th streets aren't existing at the present time, gagawin pa lang :)

peace

Yes that's correct naman. 6th and 7th sts do not exist yet. But by the time PW will begin construction next year, they will start to clear the area. At least they are honest in showing that there are still houses there as of now. Unlike the renderings of other projects where they show trees all around the project. Yon pala puro bubong din.

Nevertheless, BGC is a prime property, whether your facing Libigan ng mga Bayani, Bubong ng Pateros, Bubong ng Guadalupe or Bubong ng Mandaluyong.

Haha you don't get it man.
It's not about correcting grammar, but correcting statement.
As what miss phils said, "clearly 6th street is cut in the middle," you see some portion
of 6th and 7th streets aren't existing at the present time, gagawin pa lang :)

peace

You don’t think I get it? No dude, the truth is, “I got it.” I know exactly what you’re saying in your response (#601) to scamingue’s post.

Let me follow your train of thought here, and feel free to correct me if you disagree. You’ve read his post and saw the mistake. In your mind the comment or statement was inaccurate and needs to be corrected. To do so, you have to grammatically changed the word “is’ to “will”, twice, and you have to, because your intention is to effect a change (“correcting statement” – in your own words) in the meaning of the statement. Am I right? The message you are trying to get across to interested parties or fellow posters is that the two roads quoted are presently cut in that area of the CBD and will be open in the future. Now, this is just a question on my part, do you or somebody else know that for sure? What if, for whatever reason the plan didn’t push through, then that statement will no longer holds true, right? The accompanying statement at the end of my post (#604) was simply meant as a variation or an alternative of your post at #601 and composed without changing the message or meaning of your statement. Personally, when I read scamingue's post, even if I think there was something wrong with it, I wouldn't think much of it, and would have just left it alone.... but that's just me.

In your post at #602 using the accompanying maps, I didn’t see the 6th and 7th Streets, anywhere. Did you guys by chance mean 6th and 7th Avenues instead?..... Because that would make more sense.

Here's a map showing how the said roads (6th and 7th Ave.) will eventually look as posted earlier by Scamingue. 6th and 7th Ave. will eventually connect to 36th Street as shown on the map. Hopefully they'll extend 6th (and 7th Ave.) to 34th St. as I previously thought they'd do, perhaps even possibly connecting 6th to 5th Ave./Rizal Dr. for improved traffic flow. Otherwise there's going to be a bottle neck at 32nd St unless something is done about it.
^^ Eventually, mawawala din yon because it's BGC property and a new road will be open towards EDSA (This would be Jacinto St in the map)...
http://parkwestglobalcity.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/pw-vicinity-map.jpg



These homes on the left, as pictured below, will eventually be gone daw if I understood it correctly in order to extend 6th Ave. Tama ba?
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1961/dscn0298ec.jpg


However as of now this is how the map of the area, as shown below, actually looks like. Now comparing the 2 maps, there are indeed some inconsistencies between the two maps (map above is inaccurate) so I just want to know once and for all if the said neighborhood on the left will indeed be gone or not. Ano ba talaga mawawala ba ito o hindi. This should be disclosed in order to provide a better understanding of the scope of these projects which The Grand Hyatt Hotel will be part of. It will definitely be an eye sore and an ambiance buster if that neighborhood remains there, not just for Grand Hyatt guests but also for those planning to purchase units at Park West / Park East.

...all three, Grand Hyatt (GH), Park West(PW) and Park East(PE), will occupy this area in the future (the previous map posted was not very clear)...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6064927407_eca1d0a9ff_b.jpg

Para maiba naman, balik tayo sa magiging view from Hyatt ;-)...

di malayong magiging ganito ang view ng sunrise in the higher floors, although this is a Rockwell view of Guadalupe...

recent... photo


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/5836128104_a0b189a0bd_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19942094@N00/5836128104/)
Makati City Skyline (http://www.flickr.com/photos/19942094@N00/5836128104/) by Randy Le'Moine Photography (http://www.flickr.com/people/19942094@N00/), on Flickr
^no Makati skyscraper here either, Ortigas should have more recognition

at ganito naman ang view ng ortigas, although this is closer...
originally posted by anak_mm

Ortigas Center:

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5041/5643176230_415de9b08f_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/laquacherra/5643176230/

share lang...:)

Awesome! You are the best :)

2 thumbs up scamingue!!!

58 seen building on that 2nd picture on ortigas skyline, actually its more than 70 buildings as of now

it's not miss phils.....it's miss the phils....wala tayo sa beauty pagent

lol

I was at FBGC kanina. The location of the hotel is not very good. When you drive around you see low-cost and almost slum-ish dwellings everywhere! Not a good location for a 5-star property. They should set-up a perimeter park for FBGC, the chaka buildings are making the surroundings chaka too.

like a 100 meter curtain fountain, para matakpan ang mga bahay na di kagandahan at ginamit para paupahan sa mga nagtratrabaho sa makati area

58 seen building on that 2nd picture on ortigas skyline, actually its more than 70 buildings as of now

we want more:banana:

I was at FBGC kanina. The location of the hotel is not very good. When you drive around you see low-cost and almost slum-ish dwellings everywhere! Not a good location for a 5-star property. They should set-up a perimeter park for FBGC, the chaka buildings are making the surroundings chaka too.

dapat talaga i bulldose na yang mga squatters na yan:banana:

this view of the sunset is from One San Miguel in Ortigas taken by a fellow SSC user. One San Miguel ha 56 floors, so if GH has 66 floors, one side is highly likely to have this kind of view too. I wish someone here can post a sunset view, perhaps from F1?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6210/6082538779_03b3446437_b.jpg

Pls correct my labelling if erroneous. Thanks!

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1733/201108241698e.jpg


Here it is! Thanks Aziza! According to my broker, the length of 6th st is still unclear at this time, hence, still a double-dash line in their map.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6092302186_a65780edc0_b.jpg

Yes they will be gone, otherwise why would they include a future 6th or 7th sts in the map. currently the houses are occupying a portion of 7th and 6th. These can't be the view of a 6th star hotel if they stay there. These information just can't be provided now because they are not yet available and it's been only 29 days today since they started selling. I do hope that they will release some more details soon so we can post it here and we move on from, yes, the neighborhood topic. Nevertheless, even if the detailed plan are yet to be released, FLI sales are doing very good.

^^ Thanks for the info Scamingue. Good to know that the said neighborhood is indeed going away though however I'm just wondering are you sure about the labelled locations for Grand Hyatt, Park East, and Park West? Just that from the info I gathered, I think Aziza's original labels of where Grand Hyatt, Park East and Park West will rise are actually correct. Kasi parang sobrang liit naman yata ng lot area where these said projects will rise based on where you placed your labels. Parang sobrang sikip baga. Paki verify naman please. Thanks again for your help!

good view of ortigas....

^^ Thanks for the info Scamingue. Good to know that the said neighborhood is indeed going away though however I'm just wondering are you sure about the labelled locations for Grand Hyatt, Park East, and Park West? Just that from the info I gathered, I think Aziza's original labels of where Grand Hyatt, Park East and Park West will rise are actually correct. Kasi parang sobrang liit naman yata ng lot area where these said projects will rise based on where you placed your labels. Parang sobrang sikip baga. Paki verify naman please. Thanks again for your help!


I think Scamingue's labels are correct. The land area of the Grand Hyatt block is almost the same as that of Shangrila's according to Google earth.

baka pati ito i post pone ni noynoy ang demolition

mukhang bought out na yung mga legal residents sa side na yan so I don't think there would be a problem regarding demolition..

I think Scamingue's labels are correct. The land area of the Grand Hyatt block is almost the same as that of Shangrila's according to Google earth.

Oh OK. Guess I was given erroneous info. Thanks for the clarification! :)


Guess it will have to be a tight squeeze then if Scamingue's labels are indeed accurate...
Would that also mean the said neighborhood will have to be demolished first in order to build Park West?
I wonder just how soon they'll be starting the demo and clearing of that area if such is indeed the case.


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6092302186_a65780edc0_b.jpg


....the bottom part of the scale model is the retail area of Grand Hyatt and the future Park East....

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6203/6065418592_818504e165_b.jpg


....actually, PE will share the same block as GH. Below is the view from 7th street:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6182/6069162604_272abcac61_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6092302186_a65780edc0_b.jpg

Real estate agents in the Philippines should at least have some basic knowledge and skills in plan/map reading, zoning ordinances, municipal/city boundaries and geography. It's so frustrating to read some agents' post that they only rely to what their developer tells them and they pass it on to their clients however erroneous the info is.

thomasian said it perfectly, "And the statement that "the houses will be cleared for future developments" is quite uncalled for and is a bit insensitive for those residing in barangay south cembo." Those people who's calling for blood are not only careless and irresponsible, it also shows ignorance or maybe too lazy to research about the current conditions on the said properties.

For starters, let me just inform you that North Bonifacio is in Taguig while Brgy. South Cembo is in Makati's jurisdiction, your not only dealing with property boundaries here, we're talking about the municipal/city boundaries with two different zone areas. Fort Bonifacio is a CBD of Taguig while Brgy. South Cembo is a residential zone of Makati City, even if one or two homeowners in Brgy. South Cembo wanted to sell their house to Grand Hyatt hindi rin basta pwedeng gawing extension ng FLI dahil, no. 1 hindi na yan hawak ng BCDA, no.2 hindi na yan North Bonifacio, no.3 hindi na yan Taguig. no.4 hindi na yan Residential Zone yan na may ibang set of requirements for building constructions.

You can see the delineated boundary on these pictures, I marked it read para madaling makita...

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z88/SCUD_1975/cembo.jpg


What houses? Look at the map I did, no houses will be demolished for Park West. It's all BGC (Taguig) property for Park West, no houses on the Makati side will have to be demolished.

Let me explain how there's apparently a big vacant lot there which is not visible in Aziza's picture. The houses are standing on an elevated area (part of Makati already) which makes them block the view of the (Taguig) site for Park West from where Aziza took the picture.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/ofngol/2011/PWmap.jpg


^^ Thank You Scamingue, Scud and Aaron/Thomasian for providing us with all these info! Now it's more clearly laid out as to where these projects will actually rise in conjunction with their surrounding areas! :) :) :)

more developments pa sana para continuous from makati, mandaluyong, and taguig and ortigas na rin

sana kunin na rin nila yung Cembo para hindi pangit yung view nila sa baba!

well maybe in the future... the people in Cembo will have no choice but move.. when their realty taxes start (or have already started) to jump so high due to their proximity to BGC... or they will soon opt to build taller buildings for apartments on their own land to compensate their realty cost...

so di talaga continuous ang 7th ave

8th Avenue is wide, looks like 6-lanes?
6-lanes ba hanggang 32nd St.? Parang naputol sa 34th St.






http://flickr.com/photos/5591588921_e5b7f9d46e_b.jpg

Taken: 4-5-11
:cheers::cheers::cheers:


http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z470/juntheengineer/BGC.jpg


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6064927407_eca1d0a9ff_b.jpg


[B][COLOR="Blue"]Grand Hyatt's location? Pls correct me if Im wrong.

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4885/dsc05801j.jpg

so di talaga continuous ang 7th ave
^^^^ Yup at present it does look like both 6th and 7th Ave. will not be continuous unless of course they are able to buy-off the neighborhood in question. Hopefully they'll be able to though to extend them to 34th St..


8th Avenue is wide, looks like 6-lanes?
6-lanes ba hanggang 32nd St.? Parang naputol sa 34th St.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6064927407_eca1d0a9ff_b.jpg

^^ ^^ Yup weird nga that the number of lanes in 8th Ave. lessens after crossing 34th St. as you mentioned, when ideally it could have been extended to atleast 32nd Ave. for better traffic flow if not for that Starbucks protruding slightly. Wonder why they did that? Guess it only goes to show that even with a supposed grand master-planning, true synergy may not always be accomplished when different developers are involved as seen in this case. Funny how the number of lanes kinda becomes the designating mark which signifies where one development ends (North Boni) and a different development (BGC) starts. Sayang naman kasi at parang di pinag-isipan ng mabuti yung impact sa traffic flow especially when in the end of the day it's actually for the betterment of the whole Fort Bonifacio campus. Kanya nila siguro bubuksan ang Jacinto St. (to be located along 34th St.) as a band aid solution sa traffic.

http://flickr.com/photos/5591588921_e5b7f9d46e_b.jpg

Taken: 4-5-11
:cheers::cheers::cheers:

i like this pic...parang dikit dikit sa ortigas center but not really

BCDA's has a role in North Boni and BGC. The government share is 40% to ensure that BGC is integrated to become a world class city. As such it seems like they were sleeping on the job on this one.

I find it weird that 6 lane 8th avenue were not extended until 32nd street.

I find it weird that in 5th avenue , the six lane avenue becomes four lanes.



^^^^ Yup at present it does look like both 6th and 7th Ave. will not be continuous unless of course they are able to buy-off the neighborhood in question. Hopefully they'll be able to though to extend them to 34th St..




^^ ^^ Yup weird nga that the number of lanes in 8th Ave. lessens after crossing 34th St. as you mentioned, when ideally it could have been extended to atleast 32nd Ave. for better traffic flow if not for that Starbucks protruding slightly. Wonder why they did that? Guess it only goes to show that even with a supposed grand master-planning, true synergy may not always be accomplished when different developers are involved as seen in this case. Funny how the number of lanes kinda becomes the designating mark which signifies where one development ends (North Boni) and a different development (BGC) starts. Sayang naman kasi at parang di pinag-isipan ng mabuti yung impact sa traffic flow especially when in the end of the day it's actually for the betterment of the whole Fort Bonifacio campus. Kanya nila siguro bubuksan ang Jacinto St. (to be located along 34th St.) as a band aid solution sa traffic.

BCDA's has a role in North Boni and BGC. The government share is 40% to ensure that BGC is integrated to become a world class city. As such it seems like they were sleeping on the job on this one.

I find it weird that 6 lane 8th avenue were not extended until 32nd street.

I find it weird that in 5th avenue , the six lane avenue becomes four lanes.

^^ Yup that's a weird one too regarding 5th Ave. It may be wishful thinking but technically the 6 lanes of 8th Ave. may still be extended up to 32nd St. which I think is ideal but if not, then I guess City Planners have decided magiging sobrang traffic na diyan sa 32nd St. which is probably why instead they'll just make use of 34th and Jacinto St. to divert traffic flow away from 32nd St. Guess City Planners had to do something to mitigate and improve traffic flow along 32nd St and perhaps this is the solution they came up with. 32nd St. is definitely where the bottle neck is after the re-orientation of the City Center when Ayala built Boni High Street. Otherwise sana (if the original flow orientation was not changed) pwedeng tuloy tuloy na siya hanggang dulo (McKinley Parkway).

^^^ dati ko pa pinagtatakhan yang 5th avenue. It seems so hard to believe that their planning is so messed up that it widens and narrows and widens again. it would be best if this can still be remedied (although parang the chances are getting narrower in the case of 5th ave since its beginning to get built up in that area). hope they rectify 8th ave from the beginning para di masakit sa ulo in the future.

^^ Yup me too napansin ko na rin nga yan extra lanes along 5th Ave. every time I pass through it and I'm eagerly awaiting to see why it is the case once everything is actually in place hoping to see/find sound logic behind it. Now if I were to speculate baka lang the extra lanes in those certain areas along 5th will be dedicated for major drop-off points for those identified as high traffic areas such as High Street for example and probably dedicated left/right turn lanes too so as not to impede traffic flow when the light turns green. Dami kasing pasaway na drivers that just stop anywhere as well as those that take an extra lane to turn left/right at stop lights. They should be ticketed accordingly to discipline those bad drivers into following traffic rules being enforced. Dapat din sana synchronize nila ng mabuti yung traffic lights in Fort Boni because if done properly this is an effective means of improving the traffic flow as well. Anyway 5th and 8th Ave. are very important major roadways within Fort Bonifacio so I sincerely hope that whatever they decide on how to proceed to do 8th Ave. will have sound logic behind it. Integration and synergy is key instead of developers just maximizing profits so that Fort Bonfacioi will not end up being one big traffic nightmare when this bustling world class city finally comes to fruition considering that we are a car-centric society pa naman.



Thanks for sharing this with us Aziza. :)
So travellers may know...
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/1599/bgctrafficimprovementas.jpg
Source: soulbgc August2011

Implemented na ba ang re-routing scheme?
Closed na ba ang intersection 32nd st and c-5?

ang dami talaga ng mga squatters! :(

ang dami talaga ng mga squatters! :(

sinabi mo pa....how can they explain to hyatt customers....maam, you have to go around 7th street cause 6th street is discontinuous because of squatters

uhmm.. di po sila squatters... legal land holders po sila...

uhmm.. di po sila squatters... legal land holders po sila...

They should know by know that those people are legal land holders. It has been talked about several times in this thread. I really don't know why they just can't put it in their heads that simple idea - IF YOU HAVE ARE LEGAL LAND HOLDERS you are not SQUATTERS.

Maybe they are jealous of those people that have homes so close to BGC.

They should know by know that those people are legal land holders. It has been talked about several times in this thread. I really don't know why they just can't put it in their heads that simple idea - IF YOU HAVE ARE LEGAL LAND HOLDERS you are not SQUATTERS.

Maybe they are jealous of those people that have homes so close to BGC. or they relish at pushing other people's buttons.

guy's, do you realized that there is a billion pesos stake here on constructing this building? I think the developer is smart enough to plan ahead with regards to the vicinity of that area. sit back and relax it'll come out "Grand" in the end. :cheers:

They should know by know that those people are legal land holders. It has been talked about several times in this thread. I really don't know why they just can't put it in their heads that simple idea - IF YOU HAVE ARE LEGAL LAND HOLDERS you are not SQUATTERS.

Maybe they are jealous of those people that have homes so close to BGC.

oo nga ehh.. ang kukulit...

Federal Land's ad for Grand Hyatt published in PDI on August 10, 2011.
Medyo iba pa render ng Park West dito, nevertheless it shows the people behind the current design of Grand Hyatt.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6176/6175100432_7c49b490ae_b.jpg

any pics? updates? on the site?

any pics? updates? on the site?

A video about Park West was just released. Below is the You Tube link. Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/3ps8x6SqvUc

For more information, visit http://parkwestglobalcity.com/

Is This Skyscraper is Under Cnstruction ???

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1658/grassf1062e.jpg

ganun pa rin ang hukay from last 2 weeks, manual ata ang trabaho dito ano?

kakatapoas lng ata ng bagyo eh.. tnggalin muna nila ung naipong tubig...l

sinabi mo pa....how can they explain to hyatt customers....maam, you have to go around 7th street cause 6th street is discontinuous because of squatters

They're not squatters. The people living there will probably slap you with their land titles.

They're not squatters. The people living there will probably slap you with their land titles.

hahaha. you're back with a bang! :cheers:

A video about Park West was just released. Below is the You Tube link. Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/3ps8x6SqvUc

For more information, visit http://parkwestglobalcity.com/
i think i saw the empire state building in ortigas
& the chrysler building in taguig @1min.

i think i saw the empire state building in ortigas
& the chrysler building in taguig @1min.

^^ANG BADUY NG VIDEO

updates!!?? :D

Federal Land is kinda slow.

^^ dont need to be in all size seven.. nababasa ko nmn.. :D

new
EX1xU2RhiHg

They are advertising it as if it would be a supertall.

Hindi rin mataas ang Marina Bay Sands. Pero iconic building sya.

Para sa akin, maganda naman ang desenyo ng Grand Hyatt. Pero hindi parin eto ang pinaka iconic na scraper dito sa MM.

as of now.. pb com holds the title... soon ang trump...

Oh heto mga below 250 meters din below standard din siguro no hangtod???

Grand Hyatt New York
http://www.familyvacationcritic.com/images/fampics/grand-hyatt-new-york.jpg

Grand Hyatt Dubai
http://www.hyatt.com/hyatt/images/hotels/dxbgh/1.jpg

Grand Hyatt Tokyo
http://www.roppongihills.com/spacemedia/img/space_ght01.jpg

There is a troll on this thread. The same pathetic troll roaming and ever present on all the other threads. The same troll constantly flapping his lips, spewing nonsense and spoiling the board with his silly and weird thoughts. His opinions and comebacks on majority of his posts are best suited to the tabloids or might have been extracted from some gossip articles. This troll and his likes might have inspired the great Abraham Lincoln when he quoted… “’Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.” Truly ridiculous how this same troll after being banned :banned: for “Nth” number of times, keep re-appearing under many guises (symptom of insanity?) :nuts: The same troll can be compared to the pesky mosquitoes and cockroaches. After you squash one, another one takes its place ….. they just don’t go away!

Forum members of SSC unite! IGNORE this troll. Do NOT feed the troll!

ganda naman ng design ng Grand Hyatt Tokyo. mas bagay kung somewhere sa greenbelt to. lol

Park Hyatt in Guangzhou is also 66 floors (288 meters) but then the top five floors are bi-level so 250 meters for the Grand Hyatt as previously announced is a reasonable height. This should also have at least two mechanical floors.

what do you mean by mechanical floors?

nilalagyan ng motor ng elevator, kasali na dyan yung mga tangke ng tubig at para sa fire tank rin,lahat ng mechanics andyan sa floor na yan

nilalagyan ng motor ng elevator, kasali na dyan yung mga tangke ng tubig at para sa fire tank rin,lahat ng mechanics andyan sa floor na yan thanks

tsaka afaik, mechanical floors usually have higher floor height to accommodate machines.

in this example sa former WTC, yung dark bands sa buildings are the mechanical floors:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Wtc_arial_march2001.jpg/240px-Wtc_arial_march2001.jpg

ito naman yung isa sa mga mechanical floors ng Burj Khalifa:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MJP0UXD31gE/SoLYGwf4e8I/AAAAAAAAQ9U/2kvUUlKnjLE/s400/ImreSoltDubaiPhotos54.jpg

High rise buildings nowadays are using MRL-Elevators, it's a new technology in elevator system first introduced by KONE more than a decade ago and used all over the world in tall buildings , and yes, even in Burj Khalifa by Otis with their Gen2 MRL Elevator system. Kahit ang mga malls sa Pilipinas gumagamit na niyan.

Maybe makatiprime knows what's a MRL.

UPDATES OR PICS?

what do you mean by mechanical floors?

heating / cooling systems... HVAC
water tanks...
Electrical etc.

updates???

Eto latest..

http://s15.postimage.org/75exnp2mj/IMG_0288_2.jpg

Blinding Concrete

http://s16.postimage.org/dsex2q7it/IMG_0293.jpg

^^ panu ka nakapasok dyan? :lol:

oh molly holly wholly bully!!! ang ganda ng pagkakahukay

ang tagal naman ng paghuhukay

Panoramic View sa baba..

Experience..
http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=ccc05449-4882-4bda-acc6-a6309fb2e358&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=882.490794938951&d=-0.69065928501784:-1.83168510881:-1.77842811645983&p=0:0&t=False

Panoramic View sa baba..

Experience..
http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=ccc05449-4882-4bda-acc6-a6309fb2e358&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=882.490794938951&d=-0.69065928501784:-1.83168510881:-1.77842811645983&p=0:0&t=False

what a shot! hope one day i could spend once in my lifetime vacations in the hyatt ^^ very very nice. shows again how impressive & huge actually manila is..! (btw you even see the gram)

^^Wow! Great update, tarantamoves!...More,more!

5 to 7 stories siguro yung garage kaya matagal ang paghuhukay. Baka rin naghahanap sila ng Yamashita treasure dyan...

isa lang daw yun naghuhukay...hehe

Another panorama..

http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=563419be-47c4-413d-bb72-f9764a4b53c7&m=false&i=0:0:0&c=0:0:0&z=453.471221171803&d=-1.2128827056072:-1.14439287936958:-1.18154760196844&p=0:0&t=False

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/4540/25jan007e.jpg

^^ yown.. nabuhay din uli ung paghuhukay!!! :D

parang ginigiba na ung mga bahay sa gilid

nabili na yata yun land

lahat ba ng mga bahay nyan gigibain???

taken today 2/26/12
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8352/260220122390.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9347/260220122333.jpg

^^ BOOM.. bigang bumilis... salamat sa update pre... :D

wlang anuman :)

ano tawag sa truck na to? there were about 20 of these kanina.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8352/260220122390.jpg

^^^^

concrete transit mixer . wow , me mga steel bars na pla at nag start ng magbuhos ng foundation. :banana:

yung gitna na hukay para saan yan? yan ba ang septic tank ng building?

yung gitna na hukay para saan yan? yan ba ang septic tank ng building?

i think that's for the elevator shaft... masmalalim ang base ng elevators usually from the actual base ng structure due to the mechanisms under the elevators...

hay salamat u\c natalaga sya !!! sana wla ng makapigil :)

tallest building sa taguig pag nakomplete?

yung gitna na hukay para saan yan? yan ba ang septic tank ng building?



This is the pit for the elevator. It's depth is relative to the working speed designed for the lifts in this building. This will also have sump pits for drainage.

taken today 2/26/12
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8352/260220122390.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9347/260220122333.jpg



wow andyan na mga concrete pump truck... good update

hay salamat u\c natalaga sya !!! sana wla ng makapigil :)

tallest building sa taguig pag nakomplete?
kung maunahan niya ang shang

mas ok^^^^ pero sino mas mataas Hyatt Fort or Shang @Fort???

^^ mas mataas ata to.. nakita mo nmn ung render.. talagang tall.. ewan ko lng sa actual.. :lol:

oo nga pala sila ung nag ke-claim na tallest building in the philippines !!! ala naman tong off. height di ba????

just for info., Infinity tower ang tallest sa BGC nag exceed ito sa maximum bldg height kaya wala nang ibang building na pwede lumagpas sa kanya...kaya hindi mangyayari yung sinasabi nila. gibain muna nila bago sila mag claim na sila ang tallest...

ano ba off height ng infinity 189 m ba ???

Federal Land, Orix embarking on $300M project
Philippine Daily Inquirer
12:31 am | Saturday, March 10th, 2012

Property developer Federal Land and Orix Corp. of Japan formed a joint venture, called Bonifacio Landmark Corp., to pursue a $300-million mixed used facility at The Fort.
The complex will rise on a 1.5-hectare lot at the northeastern part of Bonifacio Global City. It will have a luxury hotel and prime office and residential complex.
Federal Land and Orix will jointly finance and develop the project.
The entire complex will be managed by Grand Hyatt Hotels Worldwide.
The construction of the hotel, Grand Hyatt, is now in full swing and is slated for completion in 2015.
The project will offer 40,000 square meters of premium office space, first-class residential apartments sharing a common podium occupied by high-end retail establishments and a 66-story luxurious condo hotel featuring 450 guest rooms.
BLC chairman Alfred Ty said the partnership with Orix was a vote of confidence not only for Federal Land of the Metrobank Group but also for the Philippines.
“We are delighted to join hands with Orix once again to develop what could truly become another landmark development in the Philippines,” Ty said.

the other tower.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2942/110320122735.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4310/110320122736.jpg

grand hyatt now has a crane :banana:
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9518/110320122734.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2314/110320122737.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1281/110320122795.jpg

they... added another building...?

i like it!.

^^ yes, they unveiled the 2nd tower to rise beside the Grand Hyatt last year. if you remember this.

http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/240311_RN-032.jpg
http://www.gov.ph/images/uploads/240311_RN-022.jpg

Great ! Grand Hyatt Residences looks nice. Another branded residences after Raffles and Shangri-la.

the other tower.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2942/110320122735.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4310/110320122736.jpg

Another tower from Federal Land in North Boni.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/dlsu-ssc/TypicalLZforshowonly.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww233/dlsu-ssc/image001.jpg

On behalf of Federal Land Inc., Metrobank and Grand Hyatt Corporation we would like to present be part the second residential low density condominium in North Boni named Central Park West.

The Central Park West will have the breath taking view of the Central Park and part of a large scale mixed-use 11 hectare Grand Hyatt complex in the northeastern part of Bonifacio Global City .

^^ Thanks for posting thsee Dunamis & Crossboneka. Both Towers are nice! Wonder when One Bloomberg render and floor plans will be released?
Nauna pa yung One Central Park. Me likey the curvy! Hehehe... :lol: :cheers:

From the render looks like One Central will rise across ParkWest (designated as Future development in red)...


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First was Park West then there's the trio of One Bloomberg, One Liberty Place and Grand Hyatt Residences (aka Park East) projects that have been announced recently as well. If this Central Park West is actually a new project like it seems to be and none of the previous 4 projects were renamed/relaunched then that's 5 Federal Land residential projects in all so far.


Federal Land plans second tower in BGC
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña (The Philippine Star) Updated February 13, 2012 12:00 AM Comments (0)

MANILA, Philippines - Following the success of its New York inspired luxury residence ParkWest Tower, Federal Land Inc. is planning to build a second tower within the 10-hectare integrated community in the northern portion of Bonifacio Global City.

The new tower to be called One Bloomberg Place is part of a series of planned cluster condominiums designed for the middle to upper-mid market. This will be followed by the third tower to be called One Liberty Place.

Both towers, each 50-stories high, will make available 896 residential units each.

ParkWest Tower is a 41-story tower that had its pre-selling launch in mid-2011.

Slated for completion by 2015, the project is one of two current developments in Bonifacio North CBD. The other is the $300-million Metrobank/Grand Hyatt project, a mixed-use development comprising premium office floors, a luxury Grand Hyatt Hotel featuring 441 rooms, and first-class branded residential apartments sharing a common podium that will be occupied by high-end retail establishments.

The Metrobank/Grand Hyatt project will have two towers, the first of which will be a 66-story structure envisioned to be the country’s tallest skyscraper. The buildings lower half will be dedicated to office floors for sale or long-term lease while the upper half will be occupied by the Grand Hyatt Hotel.

The second tower consists of a 45-storey first class residential building that will house 248 apartment units with a total saleable area of 39,271 square meters.

The integrated community is a joint venture between Federal Land and Orix Risingsun II, a company controlled by Japan’s Orix Corp.

Federal Land is currently implementing a comprehensive growth plan to fully capitalize on its landbank, expertise, and market recognition. It intends to increase its coverage of the growing middle market while retaining its strong position in the high-end market.

While it continues to strengthen its leadership in these markets, Federal Land plans to expand sales to the broader middle market.

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I think this is just a partial development plan with 7 towers out of the 10 hectares Federal Land property . For the entire complex , it can accomodate at least 14 to 15 towers IMO.

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^^ Thank You reign for providing us with the illustration of the partial site development plan! :) :) :)


Well it does look like they do have plans of creating a pass thru road along 36th St. into those neighborhood as shown in the Federal Land development site plan to probably help alleviate the expected traffic in the area once these projects come on line. So I guess we can safely assume this pass thru along 36th St. is aside/separate from the future pass thru road planned along 34th St. to Gen.Jacinto St. Mmm...Wonder which one they'll decide to actually open first.

Youtube find...

Grand Hyatt site and surrounding area (dated 11/2011).
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expect unit costs (shang and hyatt) to break through the 200-mark.

^^ Wow P200K/SQM! That's gonna be dang expensive! That will be a record setting price in Fort Boni atleast and will definitely be very exclusive indeed! Guess we'll find out soon enough when they officially announce pricing. Exciting! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

^^ Wow P200K/SQM! That's gonna be dang expensive! That will be a record setting price in Fort Boni atleast and will definitely be very exclusive indeed! Guess we'll find out soon enough when they officially announce pricing. Exciting! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Wow! So if we say a unit was 300 Sqm (think that was mentioned for Shang) then it would cost 60 million +

Grand Hyatt wait for me. I already have Php180K saved! :pepper: :pepper:

walang condo boy na 2 million lang sa taguig, baka sa ibang lugar pwede, yung nasave mo patong ng ipinatong sa iyo

walang condo boy na 2 million lang sa taguig, baka sa ibang lugar pwede, yung nasave mo patong ng ipinatong sa iyo


He can still Move-in with just 2 Million:

2M = 40% downpayment.
3M = 60% bank loan; term=15 years (rental income can cover the payments).

:):):)

Grand Hyatt wait for me. I already have Php180K saved! :pepper: :pepper:

Coniocondo, We support you. :cheers::cheers::cheers:

VERY TOWN Master Development Plan @ BGC

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^ Thanks for the share InfinityFX45 :banana2:! Wish they would change "Manila" to "Taguig". Example, Grand Hyatt Taguig. I mean, if Grand Hyatt puts up a condo in Atlanta, they won't call it Grand Hyatt Los Angeles.

uhmm.. ksi po ang Taguig ay part of ng Metro Manila.. or basically within Manila in the international sense... so it's just fine.. just like the Peninsula Manila in Makati

a building in Atlanta will never be named under Los Angeles because they are not within the same area and not even in the same state... don't you know that Los Angeles is one city in Los Angeles county that is comprised of a number of other cities.. most buildings in these cities use Los Angeles to name their buildings....

If so, then by your logic, it should be called Grand Hyatt Metro Manila.

But I do understand MM as "Manila" in international sense, though inaccurate because MM is MM and Manila is Manila. I wonder how it is in other countries like Japan, if "Tokyo" is used in Buildings' names outside of city of Tokyo.

Grand Hyatt Manila is enough.. since Metro Manila is internationally synanymous with Manila...

^ Thanks for the share InfinityFX45 :banana2:! Wish they would change "Manila" to "Taguig". Example, Grand Hyatt Taguig. I mean, if Grand Hyatt puts up a condo in Atlanta, they won't call it Grand Hyatt Los Angeles. no they won't but if they build one in burbank, pamdale or even lancaster california, they may still call it grand hyatt los angeles because even though these places are outside the city of los angeles, they are still a part of los angeles county.

latest construction pic!

^ Thanks for the share InfinityFX45 :banana2:! Wish they would change "Manila" to "Taguig". Example, Grand Hyatt Taguig. I mean, if Grand Hyatt puts up a condo in Atlanta, they won't call it Grand Hyatt Los Angeles.

Well, I don't see any problem w/ Grand Hyatt Manila, since it's in Metro Manila Area. Besides, the world knows everything about Manila and not Taguig... Peace !!! :cheers: :banana:

any info about the grand hyatt residences?

^ Thanks for the share InfinityFX45 :banana2:! Wish they would change "Manila" to "Taguig". Example, Grand Hyatt Taguig. I mean, if Grand Hyatt puts up a condo in Atlanta, they won't call it Grand Hyatt Los Angeles.

no metro manila is like metro tokyo... its made up of small independent cities... so its okay to use "manila"

Tokyo skytree is in Sumida City but uses the name tokyo

or the Park Hyatt is in Shinjuku City but its called park hyatt tokyo
:cheers:

Gaya ng Hooters. Instead of Hooters Manila lang ang nasa souvenir shirts nila, ito ang nakalagay, "Hooters, Mall of Asia, Pasay, Philippines" :lol: ang haba-haba!

Gaya ng Hooters. Instead of Hooters Manila lang ang nasa souvenir shirts nila, ito ang nakalagay, "Hooters, Mall of Asia, Pasay, Philippines" :lol: ang haba-haba!

:lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

Hard Rock Makati :cheers::cheers::banana::banana:

parang Resorts World Manila- nasa Pasay

i agree that "very town" does sound very awkward!lol the task of naming the development must have fallen to the foreign partners or something.

about the manila naming issue, foreigners dont give a hoot what we call another area/city/place in metro manila, whether we call it taguig, makati city or whatnot, because of manila the city's long and storied past.

if anything, this manila naming confusion coming from the locals themselves just undercores the problem with the pinoy's penchant for doing things over. we love to do things over again, always starting off from scratch, because we either don't want to or don't have the capacity to address the problems in our society, especially in urban planning.

so until the people of metro manila come together to help each other out (the very least of which is electing the right leaders with the right credentials) to try to solve urban planning issues together, whatever bad reputation manila the city has will always follow the more progressive cities in metro manila like a monkey on their backs.

As of 22 april 2012:
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nice massive !! ^^

pag makakita na tayo ng kangaroo crane sa pinas, it means supertall na ang gagawin, pero pg simpleng T-crane lang, below 300 meters for sure yan

i agree that "very town" does sound very awkward!lol the task of naming the development must have fallen to the foreign partners or something.

about the manila naming issue, foreigners dont give a hoot what we call another area/city/place in metro manila, whether we call it taguig, makati city or whatnot, because of manila the city's long and storied past.

if anything, this manila naming confusion coming from the locals themselves just undercores the problem with the pinoy's penchant for doing things over. we love to do things over again, always starting off from scratch, because we either don't want to or don't have the capacity to address the problems in our society, especially in urban planning.

so until the people of metro manila come together to help each other out (the very least of which is electing the right leaders with the right credentials) to try to solve urban planning issues together, whatever bad reputation manila the city has will always follow the more progressive cities in metro manila like a monkey on their backs.

I agree with you on every point.

^^ Nice Updates..

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Ang laki pala ng area at ang lalim ng hukay! Looking at the pics, it looks like 6 levels ang basement. Thanks for posting these pics.

Massive! Awesome shots! :)

GT buys all shares of Federal Land

by Jenniffer B. Austria | Manila Standard Today | Friday | Posted May 4th, 2012

GT Capital Holdings Inc., the newly listed holding firm of tycoon George Ty, has acquired more shares in property firm Federal Land Inc. worth P2.7 billion to make it a wholly-owned subsidiary.

GT Capital said in a disclosure to the stock exchange it had purchased another 20 million common shares in Federal Land. This increased its stake in the property firm to 100 percent from 80 percent.

The company used the proceeds from the recently concluded initial public offering to finance the acquisition of additional shares in Federal Land.

GT Capital, the first company to conduct IPO this year, raised P21.5 billion in proceeds from the listing of 47.4 million shares including overallotment shares.

GT Capital also purchased additional 22.52 million shares, which is equivalent to 4.6-percent stake in energy arm Global Business Power Corp. on Wednesday.

The transaction, valued at P890 million, increased GT Capital stake in the Visayan power producer to 39 percent from 34.4 percent.

GT Capital also has investments in Metropolitan Bank and Trust Co., Toyota Motor Philippines Inc. and Philippine AXA Life Insurance Corp.

The group has expressed interest in bidding for the privatization of the Bohol airport and government power projects in Visayas and Mindanao, including the 600-megawatt geothermal Unified Leyte power project.

GT Capital president Carmelo Maria Bautista earlier reported that all five operating units of the company showed very encouraging results in the first quarter of the year.

Federal Land reported reservation sales of P3.8 billion in the first quarter, up 113 percent from the same period last year while Toyota Motor Philippines Corp., sold 12,645 units during the same period for a 38.8-percent market share.

Source: http://manilastandardtoday.com/2012/05/04/gt-buys-all-shares-of-federal-land/

latest?

VERI-
Latin: true, truth, real, truthfulness

Project Address:
CENTRAL PARK WEST
7th Avenue and 36th Street, Veritown, Bonifacio Global City.
:):):)

i agree that "very town" does sound very awkward!lol the task of naming the development must have fallen to the foreign partners or something.

about the manila naming issue, foreigners dont give a hoot what we call another area/city/place in metro manila, whether we call it taguig, makati city or whatnot, because of manila the city's long and storied past.

if anything, this manila naming confusion coming from the locals themselves just undercores the problem with the pinoy's penchant for doing things over. we love to do things over again, always starting off from scratch, because we either don't want to or don't have the capacity to address the problems in our society, especially in urban planning.

so until the people of metro manila come together to help each other out (the very least of which is electing the right leaders with the right credentials) to try to solve urban planning issues together, whatever bad reputation manila the city has will always follow the more progressive cities in metro manila like a monkey on their backs.

VERI-
Latin: true, truth, real, truthfulness

Project Address:
CENTRAL PARK WEST
7th Avenue and 36th Street, Veritown, Bonifacio Global City.
:):):)
Well it's a condo and not a town or city so it's actually a FalseTown. :lol:

latest construction pics

Any construction updates, Ilan floors na yung ginagawa.....:)

Grand Hyatt Update



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parang hahabol pa to sa shangri-la.