BALKAN means Mountainous in turkish and is of turkish origin.

Also KAN is coming from Khanate.

Ye.. and? What's your point?

BALKAN means Mountainous in turkish and is of turkish origin.

Also KAN is coming from Khanate.

So? What relevance does any of this have to do with the subject matter?

Ye.. and? What's your point?

The Ottomans have given the Name to this region.

The Ottomans have given the Name to this region.

And this is all relevant how exactly?

Grow up..

And this is all relevant how exactly?

Grow up..

Grow ??

Look to the map and see who is the biggest country in size except of Russia.

You need to grow very much :lol:

Come on dudes, shut the f*ck up!
France is the winner, bla, bla, bla... it's over...
I was supporting Turkey but France is the winner.
Congratulations to them! :)

Congratulates FRANCE :)

I like West Europe more than all the slavic ex communist countries.Only their women are not bad ;)

Bordeaux humiliate Bayern two many and juventus too and lyon humiliate liverpool, fiorentina and real madrid dumbass:)



So, you're proud of french clubs results in european stage?

Let's take a look below.



Champions League\ European Cup

Italy 12
Spain 12
England 11
Germany 6
Netherlands 6
Portugal 4
France 1
Scotland 1
Romania 1
Serbia 1



Champions League\ Cup Winners Cup\ Europa League\ Supercup


Italy 37
Spain 32
England 32
Germany 16
Netherlands 14
Portugal 7
Belgium 7
Scotland 4
Soviet Union 4
Russia 3
France 2
Romania 2
Sweden 2


Sorry, but it's embarassing.

del

Should i beginn from the Chinese Wall :D

del

The Ottomans have given the Name to this region.
Why interface Ottoman Empire in the topic? You know that if it was Kemal Ataturk (served in the Bulgarian Army) at the time Turkey would not be what he represents. It would have been crumbling and isolated country in Europe.
That has left many Turkish words among the Slavic languages is a fact.
However, we were enslaved for centuries. So do not be exacerbating the situation!

PS Personally I was for Turkey to win Euro 2016, to have diversity. Unless you have a good football team, and many have good stadiums, infrastructure, natural and cultural attractions and country you order.
People like you (like it is and my country), however, create tension and to get there is to attack from both sides!

Efes Pilsen my last warning. Stop trolling

First of all congrat to France!! I'm sure it's gonna be a great tournament without any problems in prep.
Sorry for Turkey - propably a litlle bit because of us


and one more word to this user:

Congratulates FRANCE :)

I like West Europe more than all the slavic ex communist countries.Only their women are not bad ;)

If you don't know how to behave than say nothing - it would be much better.

So, you're proud of french clubs results in european stage?

Let's take a look below.



Champions League\ European Cup

Italy 12
Spain 12
England 11
Germany 6
Netherlands 6
Portugal 4
France 1
Scotland 1
Romania 1
Serbia 1



Champions League\ Cup Winners Cup\ Europa League\ Supercup


Italy 37
Spain 32
England 32
Germany 16
Netherlands 14
Portugal 7
Belgium 7
Scotland 4
Soviet Union 4
Russia 3
France 2
Romania 2
Sweden 2


Sorry, but it's embarassing.

Turkey appears no where on your list.

High taxes are killing French clubs by the way. They just can't pay big stars' salaries.

I seem to remember during Paris' 2012 bid talk of the Stade de France getting a refurb, or some kind of upgrade. Do I remember correctly? If so what was this and is it back on the table now the Euro bid has been won (if it was ever off it in the first place)?

Turkey appears no where on your list.

High taxes are killing French clubs by the way. They just can't pay big stars' salaries.

Galatasaray won both UEFA Cup and Super Cup in 2000, but list does not mention these. Why I don't know.

I seem to remember during Paris' 2012 bid talk of the Stade de France getting a refurb, or some kind of upgrade. Do I remember correctly? If so what was this and is it back on the table now the Euro bid has been won (if it was ever off it in the first place)?

Don't you read the dedicated threads/posts..... !!!! :D

Anyway, take a look at the first post of this thread... where I tried to summarize the only info we have about the €100M refurbishment of the SdF !!!! ;)

I think SdF doens't need much work.
Maybe new seats (aybe blue, white and red? :) )

maybe blue, white and red? :)

:puke:

Please... SdF has to remain elegant (and not a flashy-colorful-plasticstyle stadium) :D !!!

del

:banana::banana:

Damn people, stop all your Ottoman vs Balkan/European states argues!
This is now "FRANCE EURO 2016 - Venues" thread, so stay ontopic...

A bit of French elegance :bowtie: :

Europe is our guest (whether it is today or in 2016...)

TinPodLPgNc

EEfYKuW8htM

If we learned to let go of history a bit Europe would be a much better place today. Too many people clinging onto a time that doesn't exist anymore.

I do have an on topic question though. Why do the stadiums need to be completed 2 years prior to the event? All of Frances stadium will be renovated/built by 2014 if I remember correctly. Seems strange considering that WC stadia remain unfinished in the months leading into the tournament.

Well I think it's because of actual problems in Ukraine concerning UEFA 2012 champioship venues! Before , host countries must have completed their staidums one year prior to the tournament... Starting from now it's 2 years in advance ! :)

I'm a bit disapointed tbh. Turkey is a really great country. Althought people may feel unsafe there. But I've been there twice, and surprisingly I wasn't kidnapped, I wasn't mugged...Anyway, GJ Platini

Why on earth would you be randomly kidnapped in Turkey?

I think we must stop talking about why France has been chosen over Turkey or why UEFA didn't give to Turkey... It's sad to see some kind of awful comments on this tread and on others around SSC.
Turkey made a great great bid... maybe the lack of transportation facilities between some cities cost them the Euro, but in term of Stadias, Welcome, Football fever Turkey has it all! So I hope they will bid for 2020!
I'm also very disppointed by some reactions of Turkish forumers here, we had such a great thread for 2 years and even if the results is know known we must keep it that way !

it was obvious france to get it! :)
i told it several times on threads and people treated like an arrogant guy! Where are the ones who said that it would never happen ? :lol:

Where are the ones who said that it would never happen ? :lol:

:bash:

congrats France

Planus said: "I was sure from thursday that France will get the Euro 2016" lol
OUT WITH PLATINI FROM UEFA! France have big advantages in all international competitions!

http://nsa14.casimages.com/img/2010/05/30/100530060101613042.gif

How long is the Presidency in UEFA?

Does anybody know how the stadium in Strasbourg will loke like for the competition? I could not imagine that the old stadium is fit for 2016 and somewhere I read that it is not planned to build a completely new stadium there, anybody is informed?

Jesus... I can't believe you guys like the kid idea. It's so stupid, besides being so cliche! Using a child to pass some message is the less creative idea someone can come up with.

It's a bit scaring, but the Cypriot member of the executive committee said to our media that this child had played a great role in its choice/vote !!!

Does anybody know how the stadium in Strasbourg will loke like for the competition? I could not imagine that the old stadium is fit for 2016 and somewhere I read that it is not planned to build a completely new stadium there, anybody is informed?

We don't have renderings yet (since the bidding is still in progress), but they said that it will be a demolition-reconstruction: i.e. a completely new stadium !

What child are you guys speaking of? I didnt see the ceremony so i dont know...

It's a bit scaring, but the Cypriot member of the executive committee said to our media that this child had played a great role in its choice/vote !!!

He pretends he says the truth I pretend I believe him. :)

Shouldn't we start a new thread for the Euro 2016 in France? The earlier posts are about the bidding process. France has won the bid. Usually a brand-new thread separate from the bid thread is created on SSc after the bidding process has been won.

^^ Good idea!

Otherwise, bravo la France !

^^ I'd already created a dedicated thread for our bid, but instead of change its name the mods merged it with this one when we've knew that France has won..

Anyway, that's not really important, this thread or another, there's no difference imo !

How long is the Presidency in UEFA?

Platini said he will run a second mandate of 4 years in 2011 and i believe it's him that will still be president of UEFA in 2016 :D

The last president stayed 17 years... meaning Platini could go to 2023, meaning 4 times elected. :D

Moving back on the topic get these frakkin' stadia built already!

The Euro Championship in the new millennium:

2000 – Belgium / Netherlands
2004 – Portugal
2008 – Austria / Switzerland
2012 – Poland / Ukraine
2016 – France

Congratulations France!

Congrats France!

I think the French bid was the strongest especially in terms of infrastructure and deserves to host the Euro. The stadia look great too, especially the one planned in Lille.

Moving back on the topic get these frakkin' stadia built already!

I thought you supported Caprica (and the C-Bucs' stadium) to host the tournament :D !

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I think the French bid was the strongest especially in terms of infrastructure and deserves to host the Euro. The stadia look great too, especially the one planned in Lille.
Yes it was the strongest.
But France won only for 1 vote against Turkey.
That proove one thing: Turkey is able to host that kind of event...so, Turkey 2020 ?

We don't have renderings yet (since the bidding is still in progress), but they said that it will be a demolition-reconstruction: i.e. a completely new stadium !

and what about this eurostadium project?

http://5a.img.v4.skyrock.net/5a9/jujus01/pics/1804548472_small_1.jpg

:s

and what about this eurostadium project?

http://5a.img.v4.skyrock.net/5a9/jujus01/pics/1804548472_small_1.jpg

:s
The project has been cancelled last year, in July.

I thought you supported Caprica (and the C-Bucs' stadium) to host the tournament :D !

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r7KcpgQKo2I

Oh I do stand tall for the C Bucs but in the mean time these people better start the frak out building these things or I'm going to whack their frakkin heads off!

Ok seriously I should stop eating chocolate, it makes me a bit antzy!

Why Nantes is not in plan for Euro 2016.?!!! :(

and big mistake by Marc Planus but you or the world champion France cheating yes


et la grosse bourde de Marc Planus tu le mais ou , la france champion du monde de la tricherie oui

Why Nantes is not in plan for Euro 2016.?!!! :(
Because the city of Nantes refused to participate. They estimated that the stadium was renovated too recently. And they have no money to make additional works. Same for the city of Rennes.

The project has been cancelled last year, in July.

so they quit the eurostadium project to propose a demolition-reconstruction prject?
:gunz: is it the famous french flair?? ;)

Will the Stade Route de Lorient be used?

as Deamond said just above, "Because the city of Nantes refused to participate. They estimated that the stadium was renovated too recently. And they have no money to make additional works. Same for the city of Rennes."
the stade de la route de lorient is the stadium of the city of Rennes.
In addition to that point it is to small to answer the UEFA requirement (<30 000 seats)
:(

I thought it was around the 32000 mark? Should just be used :(

^^ It has 29,800 seats (and with the new UEFA requirements its capacity would fall below 25K IMO) !

Just gonna give my 2 cents about the result (my laptop was broken for a week):

Congratz France. Turkey had a strong bid but faced a very strong France bid with 200% determination (Sarkoz & Platini etc..) to get the euro's otherwise they would have won. For 2020 Turkey is probably gonna be favourites. Germany had WC 2006 so wont bid, France has 2016, England most likely WC 2018, Switz & Austria 2008, BE & NL 2000, POl & Ukr 2010, Russia concentrating on WC and dont think they would get the euro's anyway at least not with the 1st bid, Spain is concentrating on WC 2018 and even if they don't get 2018 i don't think they would win with their first bid for the euro's 2020.

So which countries are realistic winners in 2020? I only see Turkey as a real candidate. Russia & Spain would bid for 1st time and have no chance against Turkey. Probably some co-host like Croatia-Hungary or Sweden-Denmark but I wouldn't give them much chance either against Turkey. Italy maybe but based on the votes Turkey is the huge favourite against Italy. If you dont win in 2020 you can feel cheated but UEFA is known to spread out the euro's over whole of Europe so most likely Turkey will get it.

Anyway, it's still only hosting a tournament. If you go by low cost carriers you can get everywhere in Europe by plane for less then 100 euros so who cares where it is.

Gonna be a great tournament in 2016.

Edit: In theory France has it now for the 3rd time but actually the 1st one in 1960 was with only 4 teams so you can't really call that a 'euro'. Even the 2nd one in 1984 was with only 8 (?) teams which was barely a few games. Let's say France hosts a 'real' euro for the 1st time too.

Let's focus on France's bid now :)

A video in French about 3 of the main stadiums of France 2016 (Lille, Lyon & Stade de France) :

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Great video. Had no idea Lille plans on it being a multipurpose venue. Swimming!

To anyone who's not either French or Turkish :
do you think France won the bid fairly?
which could be translated as :
Do you think French bid was better than turkish's?

To anyone who's not either French or Turkish :
do you think France won the bid fairly?
which could be translated as :
Do you think French bid was better than turkish's?

Hosted rugby and football world cup. Its always going to be a very strong technical bid from a tried and tested country.

It proposes new venues but its hosted these major event with less glamorou venues.

To anyone who's not either French or Turkish :
do you think France won the bid fairly?
which could be translated as :
Do you think French bid was better than turkish's?

France had the strongest bid. It hosted many international tournaments before and proved to be successfull in hosting the Euro before. UEFA wanted a well prepared nation to host the first 24 team Euro. Turkey on the other hand, also had a good bid but it is not compareable to France's. On a geographical note, Turkey is not even in Europe. They would have a better chance at a World Cup bid.

To anyone who's not either French or Turkish :
do you think France won the bid fairly?
which could be translated as :
Do you think French bid was better than turkish's?
Difficult to say ofc if you haven't seen the presentation and/or book of both bids. I would say Turkey's bid was maybe a bit too much 'we got nice beaches and a nice culture' and hope they would win because they didn't organise it before. It was too much about style and later on I proved right when I heard they hired a known marketing company who won the bid for Germany in 2006 and South Africa in 2010 ;) France's bid was more focussed on the substance (they didn't use the french riveira as argument ;) ) and was better but it's hard for any country to have a bid of the same quality like France. France has great cities, great stadiums, great infrastructure, perfect distance wise, wealthy country, developped football infrastructure, good weather, etc... There are barely any flaws in France's bid. Even the EC's they organised before were with 4 or 8 teams so you barely could call that a 'euro'. Based on this they deserve it but than again you could host it every 4 years which isn't fair ofc.

The question is how much influence Platini & Sarkozy used. They were really determined to get that bid and if you know both of 'm you know they would do everything to get it, even bribe people. I'm not saying they did though.

Personally I would have given it to Turkey if only for sentimental/political reasons like they did for Poland/Ukraine. France has enough opportunities to organise big occasions (WC rugby, WC football '98, last round olympics 2012)so the french shouldn't complain ;)

Anyway, it's still 'only' hosting it, there is as much fun in huge fan fests in your own country as it will be in France in 2016. It's also easy & cheap to travel to anywhere in Europe these days with all these low cost carriers. It doesn't really matter for me where it is to be fair.

Posted on the French forum.
credit to FoXLorrY

The existing :
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9250/planexistant.jpg

The project :
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8245/planprojet.jpg

the stands, before and after :
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/250/coupeexistant.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7513/coupeprojet.jpg

a virtual model :
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6917/pers.jpg

new stadium

new stadion

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^^ ???????????

To anyone who's not either French or Turkish :
do you think France won the bid fairly?
which could be translated as :
Do you think French bid was better than turkish's?

For me France's bid was very, very strong: stadiumwise and infrastructure.
Turkey's stadiums were Euro- worth aswell, but there were doubts about the infrastructure. (Who really wants to travel to Anatolia to watch a EURO match?)

I guess politics decided the race for France: Germany's and France's FA had an agreement for supporting each other for the Women's WC and the EURO 2016.

Turkey should try to get a lobby within Fifa and UEFA before bidding again!

Location: Marseille, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
Name: Stade Vélodrome (Refurbishment and Extension)
Tenant: Olympique de Marseille
Extension: 60,031 --> 67/68,000 seats (6,000 VIP seats)
Opening: 2014
Architects: SCAU, Atelier 9, jointly with Bouygues (construction)
Cost: €273M, stadium + real estate program (Public–Private Partnership: Local authorities & Bouygues)
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells & wind turbines)
Rainwater collection system

(Euro 2016 candidate City)


Here are the first official renderings & pics of the refurbished Vélodrome....

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/715/100621vel.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9696/100621vel2.jpg

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7456/100621vel6.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9771/4945.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3513/capturedcran20100621181.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/5227/capturedcran20100621184w.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2387/capturedcran20100621184.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2538/47214164227f9d78ee2ab.jpg


Other renders & pics on its thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=401601).

Lovely, I hope they do it, Velodrome is a graet stadium, just badly adapted to the conditions (namely wind). This should solve the problem...

http://www.designfootball.com/images/stories/stade/stade-velodrome-3.jpg

http://www.designfootball.com/images/stories/stade/stade-velodrome-6.jpg

http://www.designfootball.com/images/stories/stade/stade-velodrome-5.jpg

http://www.designfootball.com/images/stories/stade/stade-velodrome-1.jpg

http://www.designfootball.com/images/stories/stade/stade-velodrome-2.jpg

Very nice

Really like it! Amazing roof, great interior. It´s perfect.

that looks brilliant!!

The interior, especially the roof, reminds me of Beijing National stadium, in my opinion it's great!!

Great stadium

beautiful

very impressing :)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs017.ash2/34212_401187218260_175780483260_4368024_7432798_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs017.snc4/34212_401187208260_175780483260_4368022_4364451_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs037.snc4/34212_401187213260_175780483260_4368023_7806944_n.jpg

new stadion

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Never seen this pic before ? Can you tell more about it ?

I would say it could be the new version of the RC Lens Stadium because of the red and yellow colors ...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs017.ash2/34212_401187218260_175780483260_4368024_7432798_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs017.snc4/34212_401187208260_175780483260_4368022_4364451_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs037.snc4/34212_401187213260_175780483260_4368023_7806944_n.jpg

Love the views from in and around the stadium but not a fan of the overall shape.

I really like the details and the stadium wrap. I hope it is polycarbonate and allows lots of light in. This venue is really special with lots of light e.g. RWC 2003.

The roof is kinda transparent and let the light goes in whereas Vinci's rejected stadium didnt have a transparent roof.

D E L

D E L

Renderings of the refurbished Saint Etienne stadium.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226402_203886022982050_100000819609165_497828_1385318_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225287_203886499648669_100000819609165_497844_1874811_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229487_203886066315379_100000819609165_497831_4998632_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250930_203886086315377_100000819609165_497832_5016576_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227186_203886129648706_100000819609165_497835_8346226_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226523_203886139648705_100000819609165_497836_265456_n.jpg

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/247515_203886099648709_100000819609165_497833_7838129_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227456_203886106315375_100000819609165_497834_2106892_n.jpg

really nice pics ,

nice marseille olympique stadium

Really like the ASSE one.

I am really curious to know why did the French organizers choose some of the venues. For example, why choose Lens? Lens is a town just outside Lille, who already is a host venue. What can one do in Lens, what is the logic in directing a big number of visitors there? The same can be said about St.-Etienne, a town outside of Lyon (one of the major host venues). At least St.-Etienne looks a bit more interesting than Lens when comparing them on Wikipedia and Google Images. I know both these towns have a strong football tradition, but that should be a minor aspect IMO. Myself I would have tried to "spread" more the hosting venues around France, in order to distribute visitors (and the income they'll provide) more diversely. That would also make it more interesting to the visitors IMO. Myself I would have scapped at least one of Lens or St.-Etienne and chosen one of the major cities in Brittany. Nantes would have been great, it appears to be a great city, it has the ocean in its proximity, and it already has an excellent stadium who wouldn't have needed much preparation. Rennes is not bad either (though no ocean near and the stadium would have needed major improvements).

Some other countries that I'd like to have them hosting the EURO:

Croatia + Slovenia: great places for tourism; beaches; football culture (especially in Croatia); they'd need serious investment in stadiums.
Greece - great place for a sporting event. Unfortunately they're in the trash bin economically and we don't know when will they recover and be able to invest in infrastructure and facilities again.
Ireland + Northern Ireland: same as for Greece.
Sweden+Denmark: they'd be just perfect; no problems with the funds for stadiums.

I am really curious to know why did the French organizers choose some of the venues. For example, why choose Lens? Lens is a town just outside Lille, who already is a host venue. What can one do in Lens, what is the logic in directing a big number of visitors there? The same can be said about St.-Etienne, a town outside of Lyon (one of the major host venues). At least St.-Etienne looks a bit more interesting than Lens when comparing them on Wikipedia and Google Images. I know both these towns have a strong football tradition, but that should be a minor aspect IMO. Myself I would have tried to "spread" more the hosting venues around France, in order to distribute visitors (and the income they'll provide) more diversely. That would also make it more interesting to the visitors IMO. Myself I would have scapped at least one of Lens or St.-Etienne and chosen one of the major cities in Brittany. Nantes would have been great, it appears to be a great city, it has the ocean in its proximity, and it already has an excellent stadium who wouldn't have needed much preparation. Rennes is not bad either (though no ocean near and the stadium would have needed major improvements).

In fact it's a choice "by default". Nantes would certainly have been chosen but they finally decided not to apply, saying the price necessary to upgrade the stadium to the UEFA 2016 standards was too high and -to be succinct- that it was not worth the prize...
Same goes for Rennes, who just upgraded their stadium a couple of years ago and who would have needed to again upgrade it.
Other big touristic towns also did not apply or withdrew their candidateship, such as Strasbourg (the club ws relagated in 3rd division) and Montpellier (too expensive to cover and upgrade the stadium, which is already often quite empty)...
So finally there was not much of choice!...And to be honest there is not so many towns with 40 000+ stadiums in France...
However I think the UEFA standards are starting to be too high, and many cities won't apply, because they would have to completely refurbish their stadiums -eg change all the seats because they are not large enough, or change the slope of the tiers because they are too flat...

Thanks Matts, that makes complete sense. I'm surprised to hear about that high a level of autonomy in the planning of this, especially considering it's France we're talking about. I would have expected a centralized plan with national funds invested into the development of stadiums. Didn't Strasbourg eventually become a host venue though? Wikipedia says so.

Regarding my post above where I was mentioning the other countries I'd like to see hosting the Euro, I just remembered the tournament will now have 24 teams, therefore needing more stadiums than it did in the past - which lowers the chances of smaller countries to be able to host one. I doubt there are 12 stadiums of 40.000 plus capacity in any of the countries / combinations I mentioned, or even potential for 12.

Today the list of final cities host will be unveiled :)

9 +2 reserved.

lens seem to be out of the list rumors say...

It is normal! lille has a strong candidature this turn around :)

2 cities in the north is a waste! nancy deserves to be selected imo.

Lens and st etienne won't be in the final choice i think

Nancy & St-Etienne seem likely too !

(two of the smallest cities & stadiums of the 12 pre-selected)

However I think the UEFA standards are starting to be too high, and many cities won't apply, because they would have to completely refurbish their stadiums -eg change all the seats because they are not large enough, or change the slope of the tiers because they are too flat...

Yeah, I agree ! The new UEFA standards are stupid in some regards, while it's not UEFA who funds the new stadiums/refurbishments they ask for ! :ohno:

Oh, I still learn new things about the process, thanks guys for posting.

Axel, please post here the results when you have them. And BTW the new Lille stadium looks absolutely fantasitc, congratz for that!

And the 9 cities to host Euro 2016 will be:
-St Denis (Stade de France, 81500 seats)
-Marseille (Stade Velodrome, refurbished, 67000 seats)
-Lyon (Stade des Lumieres, new stadium, 61000 seats)
-Lille (The Extraordinary Grand Stade:), new stadium, 51000 seats)
-Paris (Parc des Princes, refurbished, 45000 seats)
-Bordeaux (New stadium, 43000 seats)
-Lens (Felix Bollaert, 41000/45000 seats)
-Nice (New stadium, 36500 seats)
-Nancy (Marcel Picot, refurbished, 33000 seats).

Reserve stadiums:
-St Etienne (Geoffroy Guichard, refurbished, 41000 seats)
-Toulouse (Municipal stadium, refurbished to 40 000 seats?)

Thanks Matts! So Strasbourg didn't count at all, like you were saying.

Thanks Matts! So Strasbourg didn't count at all, like you were saying.

No, they competed at the very beginning, planning to build a new 42000 seats stadium with private funds, but then the club had serious issues (relagation in 2nd and 3rd division, recurrent problems between the owner of the club and the municipality, club almost bankrupted), and after a second project run by the municipality of upgrading the current stadium to 36000 seats, they withdrew their application, saying it would cost too much (ca 200 million euros) to only have 3-6 Euro2016 games. I can't really blame them for that...

So you'll have Nancy instead...:bash:

I have a friend who spent two years in Nancy for an MA and she said that Nancy was OK, but she liked Metz better. And from what I know Strasbourg is one of the best cities in France. Speaking of Metz, their club is also doing very bad. I was really liking them in the late 90s...

So you'll have Nancy instead...:bash:

Says the Strasbourgeois.... ;)

the best projects have been chosen imo :)

I would have prefered euro stadium project of strasbourg but those guys are just incompetents people :ohno:

they killed their club and all idea of new stadium :nuts:

shame on this city :bash:

Well done nancy :cheers:

I have a friend who spent two years in Nancy for an MA and she said that Nancy was OK, but she liked Metz better. And from what I know Strasbourg is one of the best cities in France. Speaking of Metz, their club is also doing very bad. I was really liking them in the late 90s...

Well, Nancy is OK, IMHO. The only thing is that, touristically speaking, it only consists of 1 beautiful square, the "Place Stanislas" (but it is certainly one of the nicest in Europe I must admit).
Strasbourg is surely much more touristic, as the whole island which corresponds to the city center is classified as a UNESCO world heritage site, with lots of typical germanic architectures, and with the help of the European institutions, but I have also been told that Metz -which I don't really know well- is a very nice city. A bit a shame they got eliminated for the EURO2016 hosting very early, as the FFF preferred Strasbourg at that time. They had (have?) a nice stadium upgrade project (35000 seats, retractable roof), but the club is also struggling in second division...

@Axelferris: Yes, I would love to see some ambitious -or at least competent, is that too much to ask?- people at the head of the RC Strasbourg (and the municipality as well btw!)

Some other countries that I'd like to have them hosting the EURO:
Greece - great place for a sporting event. Unfortunately they're in the trash bin economically and we don't know when will they recover and be able to invest in infrastructure and facilities again.

I don't wish to hijack this thread, but I will just point out that Greece, unlike those other countries won't have to invest nearly as much to host a Euro.

^^ ??

How many 30K+, 40K+ and 60K+ stadiums (net UEFA capacities) fulfilling the new UEFA requirements for a 24 teams Euro does Greace have ??
(and that even includes OAKA/Spyros Louis which from today couldn't host the Euro without a heavy refurbishment before, especially on the hospitality/corporate side)



PS: Not to mention that today, for the Euro, UEFA requirements say that 100% of the seats must be covered, in each stadium. And in Greece, except the Olympiakos one..I don't see any other stadium (including OAKA) fulfilling this requirement, for example.

Anyway, like I said previously, the new UEFA Euro requirements (from 2016) are quite silly in some regards imo.

^^ I was thinking more on infrastructure, these are generally the projects that costs the most. If Greece where to host Ioannina would be the only city which needs real improvements, the rest handles millions of tourists every year. None of the other countries you mention has the infrastructure at this moment.

As for the stadiums you're absolutely right, we would need improvements. But even there we're ahead of Croatia-Slovenia & Sweden-Denmark(stadium and economic wise Norway would be a better option). OAKA is ready today (so is Karaiskaki although would probably not be included), but would probably need minor refurbishment in 10-14 years . Then there is 4 stadiums which has to remove the track & get a complete roof. In addition there is Larisa's new stadium which needs expansion plus three completely new stadiums. Two teams are working at specific proposals already.

Somehow I like it that France will host this Euro.
It might give me a taste of old times when I was watching one of my first football tournaments @ WC 98.

^^ I was thinking more on infrastructure, these are generally the projects that costs the most. If Greece where to host Ioannina would be the only city which needs real improvements, the rest handles millions of tourists every year. None of the other countries you mention has the infrastructure at this moment.

True, out of the contries/combinations I mentioned, Greece is probably the best prepared to host a great number of tourists. Did Ukraine finally built some proper highway btw?

But I doubt that the internal sporting competitions of the any of the countries could support the development of 9+2 stadiums big enough for UEFA standards. I've always thought that changing the number of participant teams from 16 to 24 will dramatically weaken the group phase of the EURO, but now I realized that I also need to wish for a return to 16 teams because if not we're probably never going to have again a EURO in new and/or interesting locations.

We are now waiting images from Bordeaux new stadium project in July (~43 000 places) and from Paris refurbishment at end of September (between 45 000 and 50 000 places)

where are strasbourg, toulouse, st etienne?

For St-Etienne, it is here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1142203&page=2

Some more renders and Info:

Name: Stade Geoffroy Guichard (Refurbishment and Extension)
Tenant: AS Saint-Etienne
Extension: 35,616 --> 40,003 seats, expandable to 42K ( 3,056 business seats + 40 suites)
Opening: July 2014
Architects: Atelier Chaix & Morel et Associés, ARCH, IOSIS, jointly with Léon Grosse group (construction)
Cost: €58M (100% Public: Local authorities)
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells)

(Euro 2016 candidate City)


Project:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7764/capturedcran20101213082.jpg


And Strasbourg has resigned a long time ago. For Toulouse, that is minimum works because the stadium was rebuilt recently. But they didn't want to make new work wo be selected in the 9. That is why they are out today.

A little summary of the candidate cities for France Euro 2016 since there are lot of questions about that :

11 December 2007: Minister for Sports claims that France is interested in hosting Euro 2016

15 April 2008: Talks about a French-Italian common bid for Euro 2016

13 February 2009: France is officially bidding. 14 cities are candidate for 12 places
Saint-Denis (Stade de France), Marseille, Lyon, Lille, Paris, Lens, Bordeaux, Nice, Nancy, Strasbourg, Montpellier, Metz
Nantes and Rennes are not competing (Refurbishment costs too expensive)

11 November 2009: 12 cities chosen
Saint-Denis (Stade de France), Marseille, Lyon, Lille, Paris, Lens, Bordeaux, Nice, Nancy, Strasbourg.
Montpellier and Metz are eliminated

28 May 2010: France wins Euro 2016 Organization

29 July 2010: Strasbourg retires since club in crisis (financial and sport disaster and in Division 2 then Division 3), new stadium project cancelled and refurbishment costs of the current one too expensive
Metz applies again but is not retained by the bidding committee. So still 11 cities for 9 final places

20 May 2011: 9 final cities announced
Saint-Denis (Stade de France), Marseille, Lyon, Lille, Paris, Lens, Bordeaux, Nice, Nancy
Toulouse and Saint-Etienne are « Back-up » cities.

Here's a recap of France's projects for UEFA Euro 2016

FRANCE UEFA EURO 2016

Host Cities

Saint Denis / Stade de France (81,338)

Euro 2016 capacity: 76,474

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/834550Image.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/614592221424928205ba140b5ao.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/565687StadedeFranceParisIledeFrance.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/2348148696.jpg

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Marseille / Stade Vélodrome ( 67,500)

Euro 2016 capacity: approx 62,000

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/656936LeNouveauStadeVelodromeSunsetentrance920x420.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/2690313046341468545786419030617286443600061134251n.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/74124689303830498.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/236881appfullproxy.jpg

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Lyon / Stade des Lumières (61,556)

Euro 2016 capacity : 57,628

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/262226ladatedouverturepourle8decembre2013sembledeplusenplusdifficileatenirillustration.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/6443994c4862c849d18100205nouvelletoiture.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/54147119515213519348321809512.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/492819vuegradins3.jpg

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Lille / Grand Stade de Lille (50,186)


Euro 2016 capacity : 47,882

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/519239nouveauxstadeasseprojetstadeassefuturestadedesaintetienneprojetdufuturstadeasttienne.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/670871photosapartirdejuillet2.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/672474futurestadiumseurostadiumeurostadiumdestrasbourgeurostadiumstrasbourg.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/232246lillegrandstade12medium.jpg

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Paris / Parc des Princes (48,712 =>? )


Euro 2016 capacity : 40,058

Final project yet to come.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/185757ParcdesPrincesdiaporama.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/421587Image.jpg

But propositions:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/250505untoitpourlefuturparcdesprinces428026308.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/769273Sanstitre1.jpg

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Bordeaux / Grand Stade du Lac (42,000?)


Euro 2016 capacity : approx 40,000

Final renders yet to come (July 2011), only visions.

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/592706nouveaustadegirondinsbordeaux.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/529022stade3.jpg

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Lens / Stade Felix Bollaert (45,000)

Euro 2016 capacity : 40,113

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/483968lens1b.png http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/625330Image.png

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Nice / Olympic Nice Stadium (35,624)

Euro 2016 capacity : 33,470

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/901117stadeniceprojet.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/532179stadeaccessible706373.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/70484804.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/9058174db035f7e4a00stadenice.jpg

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Nancy / Stade Marcel Picot (approx 35,000)

Euro 2016 capacity : 31,973

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/727379stade2016w900h464r3q759.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/529219get.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/56410187769300.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/93061095310123.jpg

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Reserve Stadiums
Toulouse / Stadium Municipal (41,000)

Euro 2016 capacity : 37,050

Project?
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/414675pers.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/987800stadiumtoulouse35000placesvaetrerenovepourcout56m8c5f9.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/596193StadiumdeToulousedenuit.jpg

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Saint Etienne / Stade Geoffroy Guichard ( 40,003)

Euro 2016 capacity : 39,327

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/47515047676saintetienne.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/821377tribunestadevertsaintetienne.jpghttp://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/378564378102stade.jpg http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/932762Boycottannoncegrande.jpg

Lyon and Marseille look great, it was about time Velodrome got a facelift, it looks so from another beginning of a century and Lyon are worth a new stadium after so many years of success in Ligue A and Champions League on old Gerland.

Do you have more info about de Lens stadium?
and btw why "Nice / Olympic Nice Stadium (35,624)"
Olympic???
Plans for something more in future or just a name....?

o i have another one... why they dont put St-Etienne as one if their stadium has more cap? As far as I know St-Etienne has more facilites as city...

Do you have more info about de Lens stadium?
and btw why "Nice / Olympic Nice Stadium (35,624)"
Olympic???
Plans for something more in future or just a name....?

I doubt it.
I would guess it's rather due to the club's name: OGCN: Olympique Gym Club de Nice.


The main clubs of Marseille, Nice, Lyon, Lille, all contain the word "olympique" in their official title.

Do you have more info about de Lens stadium?

There are several pictures of Bollaert euro 2016, but not a lot of details. We are still waiting for more informations

http://www.info-stades.fr/images/uploads/lens-euro-2016.png

http://www.info-stades.fr/images/uploads/lens-bollaert-euro-2016.png

http://www.info-stades.fr/images/uploads/lens-bollaert-2016.png

http://www.info-stades.fr/images/uploads/stade-lens-projet-tribune.jpg


and btw why "Nice / Olympic Nice Stadium (35,624)"
Olympic???
Plans for something more in future or just a name....?

There will be a naming. It's just the "first' name

o i have another one... why they dont put St-Etienne as one if their stadium has more cap? As far as I know St-Etienne has more facilites as city...

St Etienne has maybe more facilities than Lens but less than the Other cities.

13 February 2009: France is officially bidding. 14 cities are candidate for 12 places
Saint-Denis (Stade de France), Marseille, Lyon, Lille, Paris, Lens, Bordeaux, Nice, Nancy, Strasbourg, Montpellier, Metz
Nantes and Rennes are not competing (Refurbishment costs too expensive)


You forgot Arena 92 (in Paris-La Défense) which was officially candidate too.

So, we had 17 candidate stadiums in 15 cities (Paris x3, Lyon, St-Etienne, Marseille, Nice, Lille, Lens, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Montpellier, Rennes, Nantes, Strasbourg, Metz, Nancy).

minus Nantes & Rennes who gave up later indeed: 15 candidate stadiums in 13 cities.

You forgot Arena 92 (in Paris-La Défense) which was officially candidate too.

So, we had 17 candidate stadiums in 15 cities (Paris x3, Lyon, St-Etienne, Marseille, Nice, Lille, Lens, Toulouse, Bordeaux, Montpellier, Rennes, Nantes, Strasbourg, Metz, Nancy).

minus Nantes & Rennes who gave up later indeed: 15 candidate stadiums in 13 cities.

So what happened with Metz???

Euro 2016 will be hosted in 11 cities/Stadiums !

Today, Michel Platini (during the UEFA exco meeting), said that the formerly two back-up cities (Toulouse & Saint-Etienne) will be finally included in the list of host cities.
This decision was taken because these two municipalities were furious to have been designated as back-up venues, and never stopped to complain about that since several weeks (we're in France :lol:).

Saint-Etienne et Toulouse à l'Euro

Non retenues pour l'organisation de l'Euro 2016 par le Conseil Fédéral de la FFF il y a quelques semaines, Saint-Etienne et Toulouse ont été repêchées par le Comite Exécutif de l'UEFA ce jeudi.

Il n'y aura pas 9 (Saint-Denis, Paris, Lille, Bordeaux, Nice, Lyon, Marseille, Lens, Nancy), mais 11 villes retenues pour l'organisation de l'Euro 2016 en France. Ainsi en a décidé le Comité Exécutif de l'UEFA réuni ce jeudi à Nyon. Seulement sélectionnées comme «réservistes» par le Conseil Fédéral de la FFF, Saint-Etienne et Toulouse sont donc repêchées, a indiqué Michel Platini, le président de l'instance européenne.
Le Figaro.fr (06/16/2011)



So, here is the "final list" (or not..who knows :D) of the UEFA Euro 2016 venues :
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6894/cartefranceeuro2016copi.jpg


1. Paris/St-Denis (Stade de France) 81,338 (76,474 during Euro), Renovations
2. Marseille 67,000 (65,000 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
3. Lyon (OL Land) 61,556 (57,628 during Euro), New
4. Lille 50,187 + Retractable roof & movable pitch (47,882 during Euro), New
5. Paris (Parc des Princes) 48/50,000 + Retractable roof ? (40,058 minimum during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
6. Bordeaux 43/45,000 (42,566 during Euro), New
7. Lens 44,000 (40,113 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
8. Toulouse 40/43,000 (37,050 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
9. St-Etienne 40,830 (39,327 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
10. Nice 35,624 (33,470 during Euro), New
11. Nancy 35,000 + Retractable or Fixed roof/Dome (31,973 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension

All projects include renewable energy (photovoltaics, thermal panels and/or wind turbines + rainwater collection systems)


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Paris (St-Denis)

Stade de France (81,338 ￨ built ￨ renovations from now to 2016 ￨ cost: €100M, 100% private)

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4205/2893742578ff3fed3a95b.jpg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9831/copiedefil16450.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9471/30065323744909b77e4bb.jpg http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7747/capturedcran20101012011.jpg


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Marseille

Stade Vélodrome (67,000 ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ u/c ￨ cost: €273M, private-public partnership ￨ opening: 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4043/marseille60031copie.jpg http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8915/25290527454c3fc5f112bco.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7131/3567england.jpg

Project:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/480/capturedcran20110616183.jpg http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg


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Lyon

"OL Land" (61,556 ￨ new ￨ approved ￨ cost: €450M, 100% private ￨ opening: December 2013)

Project:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8373/main4v.jpghttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2045/main6j.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4508/main5b.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2674/capturedcran20100223112.jpg


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Lille

"Grand Stade" (50,187 + retractable roof + movable pitch ￨ new ￨ u/c ￨ cost: €400M, private-public partnership ￨ opening: July 2012)

Project:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/695/image1iki.jpg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9314/157783.gif

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/594/16grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8362/15grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6646/17grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4049/6ac5d837ac0078fc12f93b7.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3042/image8iz.jpg


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Paris

Parc des Princes (48/50K + retractable roof (?) ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ bidding in progress ￨ cost: €75-100M, 100% private ￨ opening: 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9144/154272660470d62fe61doco.jpg http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4425/455713618bmnzacfs.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3777/13655375728ac0a7c342o.jpg

Proposals:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2527/parcfiche26copie.gif http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1739/sanstitre4iucopie.png


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Bordeaux

"Grand Stade" (43/45K ￨ new ￨ bidding in progress ￨ cost: €165-200M, 50% public + 50% payed by the club ￨ opening: 2014)

Illustration:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8602/capturedcran20100516003.jpg


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Lens

Stade Félix-Bollaert (44,000 ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ approved ￨ cost: €111M, 50% public + 50% payed by the club ￨ opening: February 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5951/12rclensfaadetribunepri.jpg http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/776/capturedcran20100224121.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/416/31rclensinterieurwc1998.jpg

Project:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7009/felixbollaertlens940x70.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6102/lenseuro2016.png

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3344/lensbollaert2016.png http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5766/10stadeflixbollaertproj.jpg


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Toulouse

Stadium Municipal (40/43K ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ bidding in progress ￨ cost: €54M, 100% public ￨ opening: summer 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4825/1stadiumrwc2007copie.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9426/12stadiumfaadetribunepr.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4129/30cstadiumintrieurcopie.jpg http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3563/37stadiumintrieurrwc200.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2446/capturedcran20100224133.jpg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9392/44stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg



Proposal:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5146/stadiumtoulousecopie.jpg http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2758/persv.jpg


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St-Etienne

Stade Geoffroy-Guichard (40,830 ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ u/c ￨ cost: €75M, 100% public ￨ opening: 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8158/2stadegeoffroyguichardc.jpg http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7996/12stadegeoffroyguichard.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9940/31stadegeoffroyguichard.jpg



Project:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7764/capturedcran20101213082.jpg http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/6963/186052jpg82833820x554co.jpg

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2776/capturedcran20101213085.jpg http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5787/capturedcran20101213100.jpg


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Nice

"Grand Stade" (35,624 ￨ new ￨ approved ￨ cost: €245M, private-public partnership ￨ opening: June 2013)

Project:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg


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Nancy

Stade Marcel-Picot (35,000 + retractable or fixed roof/dome ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ approved ￨ cost: €60-70M, 100% private ￨ opening: 2013)

Current stadium:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6417/image2copie.jpg http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9430/picotnancydummsuppcopie.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/641/32890112581465857836b.jpg http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2918/dummsuppmarcelpicpotcop.jpg

Project:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9195/capturedcran20110616201.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6939/picot2012.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2382/stademarcelpicotnancy62.jpg http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6184/stade5w900h464r3q759.jpg

Yes we are in france, the new country for learning lobbying process :cheer:

Euro 2016 will be hosted in 11 cities/Stadiums !

Wuju! Good for Saint-Etienne and Toulouse
I'll love to see games in those stadiums!!

Hey friends, I invite you to vote in this poll I just set: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1408572

Where would you like to have EURO 2020?

If they put that ugly structure on the roof of the Parc des Princes will ruin the architecture of the stadium. The Parc des Princes is a nice stadium. I hope they don't mess it.

How is the Stade de France gonna be renovated for Euro 2016?

How is the Stade de France gonna be renovated for Euro 2016?

They're going to stop fannying about with the retractable BS and just get rid of the athletics function. This will involve digging down the pitch and knoking down both ends. They've given up on the Olympics.

^^ ha ha ha no way....

Just some continuous improvement in and out the stadium over the newt 5 years. :)

They're going to stop fannying about with the retractable BS and just get rid of the athletics function. This will involve digging down the pitch and knoking down both ends. They've given up on the Olympics.

Oh, we can't do that, If that is done, Paris can't host a Summer olympics.They are not gonna lock the stadium permanently into a football-only stadium. If we did that, then doom will be spelled for a Paris 2024 Olympic bid.

Oh, we can't do that, If that is done, Paris can't host a Summer olympics.They are not gonna lock the stadium permanently into a football-only stadium. If we did that, then doom will be spelled for a Paris 2024 Olympic bid.

It worked for Rio!
:wink2:

^^Stay out of my way, sir.

They're going to stop fannying about with the retractable BS and just get rid of the athletics function. This will involve digging down the pitch and knoking down both ends. They've given up on the Olympics.


Please kid we talk about serious things here!

we talk about one of the best stadiums in the world .

Retractable tribune is better than your BS olympic stadium which is the worst sport thing i have ever seen in my life :|

Stade de france respects also football & athletism :cheers:

Oh you can't respond to a point without being idiotic can you Axel..

Why do you can't respect a excellent stadium like saint denis one then?

Oh you can't respond to a point without being idiotic can you Axel..

I'm afraid he can't ! ;)

Exaggerations, stupid comparisons and simplistic views are his leitmotiv.

simplistic? who you are to judge my opinion?

I won't say you told stupid things because i'm polite although i still think that :)

Oh, we can't do that, If that is done, Paris can't host a Summer olympics.They are not gonna lock the stadium permanently into a football-only stadium. If we did that, then doom will be spelled for a Paris 2024 Olympic bid.

I can't afford to have this white elephant sitting around ruining sightlines for football anymore. This compromise has to stop. The French have realised this too, being the rational/sane/ingenious/eminently logical* people that they are.

They've realised that the Olympics are a serious waste of time and they won't get it anyway. So they have decided that this stadium should serve it's primary function as best as it can. That means getting rid of the tracks and major permanent structural works not just 'locking' it in football mode. They will have to demolish both ends and rebuild them closer to the pitch in a rectangular formation.

French national pride as an engineering powerhouse is at stake, I can't afford to lose that because of people wanting to run around the perimeter of a football pitch on their own special orange moat. As one of his supporters I've lobbied Plattini on this, and he agrees.

The wheels are in motion. Nothing can be changed. Athletics is finished in Stade de France!

*delete as appropriate

^ Can you give a source?

Classified. Don't ask me such questions.

Stade de France like its name points it out, is the french national stadiums of all sports. It was made in order to host all kind of exterior sports or events for a larger audience.
Stade de France will never be dedicated to football use only unless french football association buy it.
Since SdF will maybe not host national rugby team anymore by 2017, they'd better keep it like it is (multi-purpose) to stay profitable and especially because french people like it like it is !

New Parc des princes (45000~50000) and the hypothethical new rubgy national stadium (80 000) will have no tracks you will be satisfied !

+10 Botoxx :)

We don't want dedicated white elephant like stratford one.

SDF has nothing to prove.

Sod off Axel, you tiresome troll. It's been explained to you dozens of times that the Olympic Stadium isn't a white elephant. If you can't defend a stadium you like without attacking another one with a line which has been shown to be incorrect by myself and others more than once, then maybe you are on the wrong forum.

I can't afford to have this white elephant sitting around ruining sightlines for football anymore. This compromise has to stop. The French have realised this too, being the rational/sane/ingenious/eminently logical* people that they are.


Actually we haven't dear ! ;)
And about the "white elephant" stuff... I guess you are not aware that SdF hosts more than 35-40 events per year (sold out for the overwhelming majority of them)...... vs approx. 25 events per year at your dear Wembley ! :tongue:



Oh, and about the Olympics.... :laugh:... may I remind you that France is the second Nation on earth by number of times ....(5 times till now; just behind the US: 8 times till now)

Anyway, the distance between pitch & stands can be nicely decorated (England should copy France - as usual - [...] at Wembley :|):

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3303/5433584788ab09b18eb6oco.jpg

orc9nAiEG_8


Some other examples in this post: skyscrapercity.com/PARIS - Stade de France (81,338)/#148 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=73573397&postcount=148)

England should copy France - as usual - at Wembley

Agreed.

Robh-> why you say nothing when he deals about stade de france as a white elephant with athletic track???

And until i see a MAJOR redployement dedicated for football, i will consider startford stadium as a true stadium!

For the moment the intention is to "let play west ham there" (we don't know the changes for football configuration then i assume fans will manifest to have wotks there to fight against winds etc...)

For me after olympic i consider it as a "potential future white elephant"

Stade de France like its name points it out, is the french national stadiums of all sports. It was made in order to host all kind of exterior sports or events for a larger audience.
Stade de France will never be dedicated to football use only unless french football association buy it.
Since SdF will maybe not host national rugby team anymore by 2017, they'd better keep it like it is (multi-purpose) to stay profitable and especially because french people like it like it is !

New Parc des princes (45000~50000) and the hypothethical new rubgy national stadium (80 000) will have no tracks you will be satisfied !
I wouldn't be so sure about that. The Stade de France is the national stadium with great status domestically as well as abroad. However, it doesn't mean it can't be improved. Especially when there is a new stadium that pipped the SdF from its position of being the best stadium in Europe and which generates several times the income that the SdF can do. There are certainly discussions among the FFF board and anyone else involved in running the SdF how it could emulate the commercial success of Wembley Stadium.

Wembley hosts the European Cup final twice in three years. This is a clear message to everyone. The UEFA prefers big stadiums with facilities to skim the corporate market as well as ordinary fans. I think this message has been understood in France.

del

I wouldn't be so sure about that. The Stade de France is the national stadium with great status domestically as well as abroad. However, it doesn't mean it can't be improved. Especially when there is a new stadium that pipped the SdF from its position of being the best stadium in Europe and which generates several times the income that the SdF can do. There are certainly discussions among the FFF board and anyone else involved in running the SdF how it could emulate the commercial success of Wembley Stadium.

Wembley hosts the European Cup final twice in three years. This is a clear message to everyone. The UEFA prefers big stadiums with facilities to skim the corporate market as well as ordinary fans. I think this message has been understood in France.

It's only about what you think about improving.
If it's in order to upgrade it a little with few retouch I agree
If it's changing the core, the identity of this place, making it a football-use arena only, I don't.
For improving itself SDF must broaden its offer, not narrow it, I think


I agree with you a stadium can always be improved especially after a decade. New stadiums represent new challenges and in this case, competition with new Wembley and new French national rugby arena must give serious headaches to SDF owners. But SDF is still in the top league of european stadiums and if it needs improvements, I think it's just few minor adjustments.

about improvements i think they can make a glass clad on all the facade of stade de france like it's the case fir wembley & emirates.

this will enable to make more amenities & restaurants + catering offers.

If they want to increase the capacity they could fill the gap between top of 3rd tiers and the roof.

Possibilities still there and i don't doubt that in 10 years they will think about it

If they want to increase the capacity they could fill the gap between top of 3rd tiers and the roof.

What about the pillars ??? :dunno:









:ohno: (simplistic I said ? right ??)

do you forget all the spaces between each pillars?

you don't mention that they are located outside the tribunes and not in the middle of them

It's only about what you think about improving.
If it's in order to upgrade it a little with few retouch I agree
If it's changing the core, the identity of this place, making it a football-use arena only, I don't.
For improving itself SDF must broaden its offer, not narrow it, I think
I disagree. Football and Rugby is the main use while one or two athletic meetings a year hardly justifies the existence of the running track. The Stade de France was meant to be the Olympic Stadium for Paris. But Paris' bid missed out. The Stade de France hosted the Athletic World Championships already and with no Olympics in sight the ability to stage athletics is redundant.

I would move the pitch down a few metres and replace the movable stands of the lower tier with permanent structures. The stadium would gain a couple of thousands seats and serve its purpose as national football and rugby stadium without compromises.

do you forget all the spaces between each pillars?


Ah ok, I see, but it would be a bit weird to expand the stadium like that. It would look like the San Nicola stadium in Bari..(which I like BTW)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meeting_Areva

Stade de France is the biggest track & field stadium representing Europe in the new Diamond League.

is anything going to be done at parc des princes ? I heard they might be dropping the pitch or something, not sure though, anyone know anything on this?

Here is the updated list of the 11 UEFA Euro 2016 venues: :cheers2:

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/151/cartefranceeuro2016copi.png



Paris/St-Denis (Stade de France) 81,338 (76,474 during Euro), Renovations
Marseille 67,000 (65,000 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
Lyon 61,556 (57,628 during Euro), New
Lille 50,187 + Retractable roof & movable pitch (47,882 during Euro), New
Paris (Parc des Princes) 48/50,000 + Retractable roof ? (40,058 minimum during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
Lens 44,000 (40,113 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
Bordeaux 43,500 (42,566 during Euro), New Toulouse 40/43,000 (37,050 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
St-Etienne 40,830 (39,327 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension
Nice 35,624 (33,470 during Euro), New
Nancy 35,000 + Retractable or Fixed roof/Dome (31,973 during Euro), Refurbishment and Extension


All projects include renewable energy (photovoltaics, thermal panels and/or wind turbines + rainwater collection systems)


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Paris (St-Denis)

Stade de France (81,338 ￨ built ￨ renovations from now to 2016 ￨ cost: €100M, 100% private)

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/4205/2893742578ff3fed3a95b.jpg http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7003/stdenis936copie.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9471/30065323744909b77e4bb.jpg http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7747/capturedcran20101012011.jpg


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Marseille

Stade Vélodrome (67,000 ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ u/c ￨ cost: €273M, private-public partnership ￨ opening: 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4043/marseille60031copie.jpg http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8915/25290527454c3fc5f112bco.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7131/3567england.jpg

Project:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/480/capturedcran20110616183.jpg http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg


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Lyon

"OL Land/Stade des Lumières" (61,556 ￨ new ￨ approved ￨ cost: €450M, 100% private ￨ opening: December 2013)

Project:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8373/main4v.jpghttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2045/main6j.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4508/main5b.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9710/capturedcran20110616184.jpg http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2674/capturedcran20100223112.jpg


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Lille

"Grand Stade" (50,187 + retractable roof + movable pitch ￨ new ￨ u/c ￨ cost: €400M, private-public partnership ￨ opening: July 2012)

Project:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/695/image1iki.jpg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9314/157783.gif

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/594/16grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8362/15grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6646/17grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4049/6ac5d837ac0078fc12f93b7.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3042/image8iz.jpg


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Paris

Parc des Princes (48/50K + retractable roof (?) ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ bidding in progress ￨ cost: €75-100M, 100% private ￨ opening: 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9144/154272660470d62fe61doco.jpg http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4425/455713618bmnzacfs.jpg

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3777/13655375728ac0a7c342o.jpg

Proposals:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2527/parcfiche26copie.gif http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1739/sanstitre4iucopie.png


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Bordeaux

"Grand Stade" (43/45K ￨ new ￨ approved ￨ cost: €180-230M, 50% public + 50% payed by the club ￨ opening: 2014)

Project:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7528/lefuturgrandstadedebord.jpg http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7441/800pxgrandstadebordeaux.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6535/stadedebordeauxherzoget.jpg http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2043/nouveaustade07.jpg


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Lens

Stade Félix-Bollaert (44,000 ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ approved ￨ cost: €111M, 50% public + 50% payed by the club ￨ opening: February 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5951/12rclensfaadetribunepri.jpg http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/776/capturedcran20100224121.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/416/31rclensinterieurwc1998.jpg

Project:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7009/felixbollaertlens940x70.jpg http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6102/lenseuro2016.png

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3344/lensbollaert2016.png http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5766/10stadeflixbollaertproj.jpg


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Toulouse

Stadium Municipal (40/43K ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ bidding in progress ￨ cost: €54M, 100% public ￨ opening: summer 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4825/1stadiumrwc2007copie.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9426/12stadiumfaadetribunepr.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4129/30cstadiumintrieurcopie.jpg http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3563/37stadiumintrieurrwc200.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2446/capturedcran20100224133.jpg http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9392/44stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg



Proposal:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5146/stadiumtoulousecopie.jpg http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2758/persv.jpg


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St-Etienne

Stade Geoffroy-Guichard (40,830 ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ u/c ￨ cost: €75M, 100% public ￨ opening: 2014)

Current stadium:
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8158/2stadegeoffroyguichardc.jpg http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7996/12stadegeoffroyguichard.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9940/31stadegeoffroyguichard.jpg



Project:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7764/capturedcran20101213082.jpg http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/6963/186052jpg82833820x554co.jpg

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2776/capturedcran20101213085.jpg http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5787/capturedcran20101213100.jpg


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Nice

"Olympic Nice Stadium/Nice Eco Stadium" (35,624 ￨ new ￨ approved ￨ cost: €245M, private-public partnership ￨ opening: June 2013)

Project:
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/97/capturedcran20110616190.jpg


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Nancy

Stade Marcel-Picot (35,000 + retractable or fixed roof/dome ￨ refurbishment & extension ￨ approved ￨ cost: €60-70M, 100% private ￨ opening: 2013)

Current stadium:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6417/image2copie.jpg http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9430/picotnancydummsuppcopie.jpg

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/641/32890112581465857836b.jpg http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2918/dummsuppmarcelpicpotcop.jpg

Project:
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9195/capturedcran20110616201.jpg http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6939/picot2012.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2382/stademarcelpicotnancy62.jpg http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6184/stade5w900h464r3q759.jpg

the designs are fantastic

velodrom :drool:

http://www.info-stades.fr/images/grand-stade-bordeaux/bordeaux_02.jpg

^^ I'm not sure, but I think it's one of the rejected projects... ;)

repin-> are you a troll??! You post old pics even in france arena news thread,! :rant:

I was searching this thread for posts that I thought I remember, about the stadiums rumoured to host the matches from the knock-out rounds, but I can't find any such post. Can anyone help?

?

What do you want to know exactly?

What are the stadiums expected to host knock-out matches (and which ones, if possible).

^^ Well, we don't know precisely yet (except for the Final which will be played at the Stade de France).



All that we know is the eligible stadiums for the semi-finals (50K minimum, net UEFA capacity), which are:

Stade de France, Paris
Stade Vélodrome, Marseille
Stade des Lumières, Lyon


And the eligible stadiums for the quarter-finals (40K minimum, net UEFA capacity) are :

Stade de France, Paris
Stade Vélodrome, Marseille
Stade des Lumières, Lyon
Grand Stade, Lille
Parc des Princes, Paris
Grand Stade, Bordeaux
Stade Bollaert, Lens


About the Round of 16, all the 11 stadiums can host.

isn't Lille Available for Semi final??

I thought it was 50K...

^^ Nope, its UEFA net capacity (=during the Euro) is: 47,882 seats.
Its 50K+ cap. is the gross one (=during the non-UEFA Euro or non-UEFA Finals events)


About these capacities, you can take a look of the recap I made for the 11 Euro 2016 host stadiums on post #2911 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=82222820&postcount=2911).

Thanks.

Lille is under Lyon , marseille and st denis in term of capacity then they shouldn't been allowed to bid for semi finals :)

But who cares? Till the 1/4 fianls the stadium will be exposed correctly during the competition.

Plus Lens may probably retire their bid (ridiculous after the forcing of their president to be in the list)

Lille should take more matchs in the north who know :dunno:

Lens has financial problems -> the global renovation was around 110 millions euros and now they don't have the money.

The bank which owns the club refuses to put more on the table and the municipality due to the economic crisis want to slow their participation.

Only one person continues to hope desperatly-> the president of RCL gervais martel :bash:

OFFICIAL!!!

NANCY ABANDONS EURO 2016 renovation project

Foot - Euro 2016
Nancy renonce

La communauté urbaine du Grand Nancy (CUGN) a renoncé vendredi à l'organisation de l'Euro 2016. Aucun accord n'a pu être trouvé avec les entreprises candidates à la rénovation du stade Marcel-Picot, a expliqué le président de la collectivité, André Rossinot. Le stade de Nancy faisait partie des neuf enceintes retenues pour le tournoi, Toulouse et Saint-Etienne ayant été ensuite repêchées. (Avec AFP)
http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/breves2011/20111202_164239_nancy-renonce.html


:ohno:

i was expecting this news!! some cities had disproportioned ambitions :bash:

five years ago,great football will come true :banana:

METZ gives up

No renovation for metz for euro 2016 :ohno:

Metz bid was due to nancy annoucement to not follow euro 2016 project.

Abandoned project summarized:

-strasbourg
-nancy
-Metz

All the eastern part of france :bash:

(I won't use the term of "cowards")

Cowards or wise men! All the clubs of eastern France are struggling whether they play in league 1, 2 or National! Upgrading facilities is always nice but you have to be able to make a business case for it! With clubs all struggling the case is harder to make!
I have to admit that no Euro 2016 stadium in eastern France is a bit ridiculous though!

I'm sad 'cause I really liked the Metz' expansion project :(... but well... nevertheless, I have to agree with your first sentences ^^, Neda Say.

wise?

What is wise in this story? why to propose to bid for an event and change decision after ? :?

Do you want lille or marseille say "we want euro 2016...oh wait we have changed our opinion and don't bid for 2016"

For me the cities which honour france are:

-Lille
-Marseille
-Nice
-St etienne

The ones which have abandoned whereas they presented the renders of their project are just cowards cities.

i know that economic crisis is there but why to present your city in this bid then?! :bash:

i propose UEFA retire 2016 to France and give it directly to germany as a reserve country for major events.

Our bid is just a shame! :mad:

I really wish euro 2016 to be abandoned for france.We doesn't deserve it.

Only cities which actually build their stadium will be competitive regarding what is a 21st century stadium is.

mais tais toi putain....

mais tais toi putain....

Well... this is our Nationaxel...

mais tais toi putain....

What?

i have my opinion :bash:
Express yours rather criticize me easily :ohno:

I repeat the abandoned projects are a shame for our country when you know that UEFA gave us this euro whereas turkey made their bid.

it is a biased candidature now :down:

Only the projects u/c represent proudly our country. If you are not ok it is your freedom of opinion but respect mine.

De toute façon avec la folle "taxe hollande" ces stades vont être désertés,les droits tv baisseront car tous les bons joueurs seront partis...Je sais pour qui je ne voterai pas en tout cas pour éviter ce "massacre" :mad:

Je sais pour qui je ne voterai pas en tout cas pour éviter ce "massacre" :mad:

Aaaahhh, finalement !! (bienvenue dans notre club de droite, nommé RPR & UDF = UMP :angel:)

hey!
never said i will vote for ump :nono:
i won't vote for the "bolcheviks" already unefficient policy.

And frankly none of the candidates has my vote now!

My dream is a mix policy which let rich being rich and enable others to become richer considering a social soildarity duty :angel:

I'm sad 'cause I really liked the Metz' expansion project :(... but well... nevertheless, I have to agree with your first sentences ^^, Neda Say.

Uh!!! WTH? what's with your avatar! I almost freaked for a nanosecond here!


Ok ok! Just chill!

Metz not upgrading is really a non event anyway! And I'll say it again there are enough sites to host this Euro anyway!

Lille is nearly done, Lyon, St Etienne, Nice, Marseille, Bordeaux have all started! St Denis is already up to standards and so is Paris I heard (with or without refurbishment)! If we add Toulouse that makes 8 cities for what... 24 nations! Ergo 6 groups of 4 or 8 of 3! Two games per stadium and per day, done done! It's a Euro, in a country that's small enough we don't need 24 stadium.

Location: Toulouse,
Name: stadium de toulouse (extension)
Tenant: toulouse football club-> TFC football
Capacity: 35575->40200(renovated and extended)
Opening: mid-2014
Architects: Cardete & huet

http://www.cardete-huet.com/images/morfeoshow/stadium_toul-8265/big/stadium20167.jpg


http://www.cardete-huet.com/images/morfeoshow/stadium_toul-8265/big/stadium20161.jpg

http://www.cardete-huet.com/fr/references/equipements-sportifs/285-stadium-de-toulouse-euro-2016

wise?

What is wise in this story? why to propose to bid for an event and change decision after ? :?

Do you want lille or marseille say "we want euro 2016...oh wait we have changed our opinion and don't bid for 2016"

For me the cities which honour france are:

-Lille
-Marseille
-Nice
-St etienne

The ones which have abandoned whereas they presented the renders of their project are just cowards cities.

i know that economic crisis is there but why to present your city in this bid then?! :bash:

i propose UEFA retire 2016 to France and give it directly to germany as a reserve country for major events.

Our bid is just a shame! :mad:

I really wish euro 2016 to be abandoned for france.We doesn't deserve it.

Only cities which actually build their stadium will be competitive regarding what is a 21st century stadium is.

I think you're being too harsh Axel. From what I've seen I'm sure they will be great venues. It will be a great tournament back in Western Europe. :)

Great and amazing things.