Official turkish BID logo

http://www.tff.org/Resources/TFF/Images/0002009/EURO-2016/Turkiye-usage.jpg

like it :)

the offical page
http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/

I like it! ^^

go TURKEY:cheers::cheers::cheers:

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Turkey announces host cities for Euro 2016 bid

Nine stadiums in eight cities will host Euro 2016 matches if Turkey is picked to host Europe's largest football event, Turkish Football Federation announced on Wednesday.

Atatürk Olympic Stadium and Seyrantepe Türk Telekom Arena, which is under construction, in İstanbul, Kadir Has Stadium in Kayseri are the existing stadiums. Other stadiums planned to be built in Ankara, İzmir, Konya, Antalya, Bursa and Eskişehir would all be used in the tournament to be held in the summer of 2016, officials of the federation said.

Turkey competes with France and Italy to host the 2016 UEFA European Football Championship after Swedish-Norwegian joint bid failed. The host country will be chosen in May 2010. The format of the final tournament will consist of six groups of four teams, followed by a round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals and final.

Turkish Football Federation has also unveiled its logo to be used during its candidacy. The logo is designed as a tulip in eight colors, symbolizing eight cities, and a soccer ball in it.

Turkish State Minister Faruk Ozak, who is responsible for sports and youth, said Turkish government was ready give all guarantees, reassuring that Turkey would not face any financial problems while organizing the event.

Italy and France have hosted the event twice, Özak said.

"Although they are experienced, I believe that Turkey is advantageous because of its desire and capacity," he added.

Link (http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-196398-turkey-announces-host-cities-for-euro-2016-bid.html)

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Turkey would bring passion to Euro2016 says minister

Turkey would bring a passion and spirit to Euro 2016 missing from the 2008 tournament, Sports Minister Faruk Nafiz Özak told a campaign launch on Wednesday.

Turkey, bidding to host its first major international soccer tournament, faces competition from France and Italy after Sweden and Italy appear likely to drop their joint application.

"The organisation was wonderful at Euro 2008 in Switzerland and Austria, but it lacked spirit. Turkey can provide a fantastic mood because of the amazing love for football and passion of its people," Ozak said.

"Italy and France have an advantage because they organised the tournament twice before. But the enthusiasm we have because we have never staged it is also an advantage."

The Turkey football federation said it had the full backing of the president, the government and Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdoğan, a former semi-professional footballer.

It said nine stadiums in eight cities in western and central Turkey would host the games.

İstanbul hosted the UEFA Champions' League final in 2005 and the final of the UEFA Cup in 2009.

Turkey, a young emerging economy of 72 million, would also benefit economically and socially from hosting the tournament, soccer authorities said.

Bid dossiers for the first Euros to host 24 countries, must be presented to UEFA by Feb. 15 with a decision due in May.

Link (http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-196410-turkey-would-bring-passion-to-euro2016-says-minister.html)

Italy and France have hosted the event twice, Özak said.
Yes, this is a big advantage of Turkey. I think it'll help.

Italy :cheers:

Istanbul:
Ataturk Olimpic stadium- 82 000
Turk Telekom arena (u/c)- 52 647

Kayseri:
Kadir Has stadium- 32 000

Konya:
Konya arena (u/c)- 35 000

Antalya:
Antalya News stadium (u/c)- 30 000/35 000

Bursa:
New Bursaspor stadium (pl)- 40 000

Izmir:
New Izmir stadium (pl)- 45 000

Eskisehir:
New Eskisehirspor stadium (pl)- 33 500

Ankara:
New Ankara stadium (pl)- 35 000


:cheers::nuts::cheers:

The Turkey bid logo is very nice! Imagine what their official logo would be if they were chosen.

^^^
Story of the logo (short clips. Go to promo videos)
http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/index.php
or youtube :)
Logonun yanı sıra şehirler ve adaylık sitemiz de belli oldu:

Ankara, Antalya, Bursa, Eskişehir, İstanbul, İzmir, Kayseri, Konya.

http://euro2016adayiturkiye.com

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Actually those stadiums / capacity are planned

1. ISTANBUL - Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi
76,092 (-> plan to expand and new roof. New cap: 80k+?)

2. ISTANBUL - Türk Telekom Arena
52,647
u/c (2010)

3. ANKARA - New Stadium
45,000
pro

4. IZMIR - New Stadium
44,000
pro

5. BURSA - New Stadium
34,750 (maybe location will be changed. So new project?)
pro

6. ANTALYA - New Stadium
31,500 (or new project)
pro

7. KONYA - New Stadium
33,000
pro

8. KAYSERI - Kadir Has Stadi
32,864
built

9. ESKISEHIR - New Stadium
33,000
pro

I think Atatürk Olympic Stadium will be upgraded to 80,000 - 90,000 with new VIP Lounges and a full covered roof

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Euro 2016 candidate Turkey introduces logo

http://medya.todayszaman.com/todayszaman/2009/12/24/uefa.jpg

A candidate to host the Euro 2016 European soccer event, Turkey introduced its championship logo yesterday at a meeting attended by State Minister for Sports Faruk Nafiz Özak and Turkish Soccer Federation (TFF) Chairman Mahmut Özgener.

Turkey will submit its bid to host the European Football Championship, also known as Euro 2016, the third largest sporting event after the Olympic Games and the soccer World Cup, and will wage campaigns until May 27, 2010, the day before the host country is decided by UEFA, the top soccer authority in Europe.

The cities and stadiums planned to host the organization will also be announced. While Fenerbahçe’s Şükrü Saraçoğlu and Beşiktaş’s İnönü stadiums were kept out of the plans for failing to comply with necessary criteria, the Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadium and the Türk Telekom Arena, the construction of which is still under way, will host the soccer games if Turkey is selected. In addition to İstanbul, the provinces of İzmir, Konya, Antalya, Bursa, Eskişehir and Ankara will also host games during the event in the event of Turkey’s selection.

State Minister Özak said in his inaugural remarks that as the government, they will fully support the event, which is critical for the promotion of the country. “Having made its mark on the world and European soccer since the mid-1990s, Turkey is one of the leading countries which is open to success and development. Therefore, investments in soccer are highly valued.”

Orhan Gorbon, the coordinator of the Euro 2016 Committee, said that 2.2 million people follow the championship in stadiums, with 6 million following it on the streets through giant screens. About 5 billion follow the competition on television and 1.2 billion on the Internet. A total of 51 games will be played in Euro 2016 and each city will host at least four games.

Having been a candidate to host the 2008 and 2012 European Football Championships, Turkey will compete with Italy and France, who have both hosted the event twice, to host Euro 2016.

Link (http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-196478-euro-2016-candidate-turkey-introduces-logo.html)

I think Atatürk Olympic Stadium will be upgraded to 80,000 - 90,000 with new VIP Lounges and a full covered roof

90,000 would be the max. IMO.
But actually white elephant
After EURo it will stay empty

I think they will built second tiers with vip lounges behind the goal stands and will demolish both roofs with the elephant legs.Because if they want a full covered roof they must make a new roof.I think they will recover it with something like Norman Foster´s project for Camp Nou.Costs would be about 50-80 Million dollars.

And if Istanbul will get Summer Olympic Games 2020 it will be used again.Between this time Istanbul Municipality Football team can play :)

Now way they will destroy the current roof
They will just make a roof at the goal stands

i don't think that they plan to built lounges at the ends, too far away

and after the olympics?
again empty venue

But all roofs must be in harmony ( i mean design aspects),because otherwise it would be assymetric design.

I am sure they will make a big change

whats the problem if its assymetric?

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Let's give opportunity to new host countries. My vote goes to Turkey. Second option is Norway & Sweden.

Second option is Norway & Sweden.
They refused few days ago :ohno: .

Oh, I didn't know that. I think France doesn't have chances. Italy perhaps because all new infrastructure ideas are connected with this project. But Turkey remains my favourite.

Yeah unfortunately N&S refused :(

So it must be Turkey !

The biding countries:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Euro_2016_bids.svg/680px-Euro_2016_bids.svg.png

True, can't imagine that either France or Italy will win this, especially because both of them hosted it _twice_ already. Also the Turkish league is improving, lot's of new stadia are proposed and it's a new (and big) country to host an EC in. In 2012 it was partly political to show Poland & Ukraine they are a part of europe, I think they want to do the same with Turkey. Also infrastructure will benefit the most in Turkey.

Actually it's no contest, clear and easy winner if you know how uefa will vote. Trust me, Turkey will win this. Congratz.

^^And Turkey is bidding for the 3rd time in a row after 2008 and 2012.It would be unfair to loose it again.

IMO, I think France will win or Italy if they put the 2nd gear on.... Not because those countries deserve more than Turkey, but just because after Switzerland/ Austria and Poland/ Ukraine a true football powerhouse will get it... and judging by the "poor" state of the stadiums in Italy and France I think UEFA will boost the restructuration of the infrastructures of one of thoose two

I agree that this could have been the case if either France or Italy hosted it only _once_ before but both hosted it _twice_ before so I'm quite sure they will chose Turkey.

The big nations all had an EC/WC recently (Italy, France, Germany) or are bidding for WC 2018/2022 (England & Spain) so I don't think they will chose a country based on that reason (to host it in a big nation). Only the big countries in Europe can organize a WC so Uefa will give the advantage to the smaller countries for the euro's because it's the only chance they have to host a tournament. The big countries still have a WC to go for if they miss out on a Euro.
Don't forget that Euro 2008 was in switzerland & austria so for everyone in the big countries it was very close. The germans, french & italians are neighbouring countries so I think they saw that tournament (a little bit ^^ ) as a part of their own (same culture, language, cities).

I think quite a lot of stadiums are already in preparation or under construction in Italy (new juventus stadium, as roma stadium proposed) and France (Lille, lyon) so I'm sure even without EC France & Italy will have quite a number of new stadiums within 6 years. Turkey will have new stadiums too even without the Euro's but Turkey has other advantages like I mentionned in my post above :)

assuredly ,assuredly GO TURKEY:banana::banana::banana::cheers::cheers::cheers:

its a ankara spor komplex ...in ankara stadium :cheers:45-50 000 capacity
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its self energy ;sun energy:banana:

http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com gooo!!!
http://www.vidivodo.com/53607/turkiye-tanitim-filmi gooo!!!
turkey is historical and cultural very rich

^^ are you sure if it will be built?

@Fizmo, I wish you say the truth, but you forget that Platini will want Euro in France...

@Fizmo, I wish you say the truth, but you forget that Platini will want Euro in France...

True, but Turkey has Şenes Erzik behind the bid, the UEFA vice-president :cheers:

Platini and Erzik cant vote anyway. No representitives in UEFA from the bidding countries can vote. All they can do is support and try to win over the other delegates.

^^ so, don't you think Platini will effect the voter members?

^^ IMHO, Platini (:gaah:) is much more a disadvantage for us, than an advantage !!!!!

Why? :)

^^ so, don't you think Platini will effect the voter members?

Thats what i said in my earlier post...

winner is go TURKEEEYYYY:cheers:^^turqoue, turkiye. TURKISTANNNNNNNNN....

wınner....:cheers::banana:
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can you please edit you post and please just 1 post and not many in a row.

^^ IMHO, Platini (:gaah:) is much more a disadvantage for us, than an advantage !!!!!

Than with President and Vice- President for France and Turkey... Italy takes the advantage..:nuts::)

^^ Vice president Erzik couldn't have any effect on the jury last time. His effect on the process is just to help Turkish Federation to prepare a better bidding folder, he can't effect the result. But Platini is not like Erzik. He is a strong personality and have power to effect the reult.

BTW, are you from Bulgaria?

I'd like Turkey to got it, as they have never been hosts of Euro...while others have... and I have question - what are approximately costs of all stadiums in Turkey's bid, in total?

^^sercan can answer that better... But I think cheaper than both France and Italy...

Turkey will renew the Olimpic stadium, with some new stands and a new roof system. TT Arena is under constraction and Kayseri's new modern stadium is already at the service. We will have to build 6 new stadiums more. And as I read, the architecture company wich designed the stadiums of EURO 2012 will design those 6 new stadiums. We will see...

Actually we do not know the cost, because they will be built by the money of the old old satdium ground (at least in many cities)
So it depends on the value of the old stadium ground and design and capacity of the new one.
The last thiong i heard was 400 Mil. Euro.
No, the Arena GmmB is not a architect office. As far as i understand they just help at the design. Make it for EURO standards etc

^^ Vice president Erzik couldn't have any effect on the jury last time. His effect on the process is just to help Turkish Federation to prepare a better bidding folder, he can't effect the result. But Platini is not like Erzik. He is a strong personality and have power to effect the reult.

BTW, are you from Bulgaria?


Yeah, I'm from Bulgaria... Have you ever been in Bulgaria? :cheers:

In the bulgarian sport sites i've read that the whole cost of the EURO 2016 in Turkey will be 1.65bil. euros.. For new stadiums, infrastructure, tourism and etc.

^^ I didn't hear about it... What else does your media say about it? Who is favourite according to the Bulgarian media?

I guess you speak Turkish very well?

Could be true.
I read about 1 bil for the infrastructure

Why? :)

Because:

Firstly: I don't like him :mad: !!!
& Secondly: He doesn't seem to support our bid :mad: !!

:D

Than with President and Vice- President for France and Turkey... Italy takes the advantage..:nuts::)

Maybe ;) !

I was reading somewhere that because of Turkey's geographical location it could be a harm to the security of the fans coming to the tournament if the country was given the rights to host it. Turkey is 99% Muslim and because there could be groups of Muslim militiants and extremists, they could plan attacks on traveling fans.

How well is the security in Turkey? Can they cope with the threats of Al Quieda and other Islamist extremists?

Could be true.
I read about 1 bil for the infrastructure

All cities for the tournament will be connected with High Speed Trains

How well is the security in Turkey? Can they cope with the threats of Al Quieda and other Islamist extremists?

They will come and blow everyones ass in the air and the security will watch BOOOOM :lol:
They will organize a maestro firework like in New Year´s eve for the celebration of winning games.

:jk:

Is it possible to see a map with all Turkish cities hosting the games?

^^ I didn't hear about it... What else does your media say about it? Who is favourite according to the Bulgarian media?

I guess you speak Turkish very well?



Only the biggest sites write about EURO 2016( only 2-3 of them)... But they write only for the Turkish bid :) In some sites they wrote about Istanbul's bid for SOG 2020 :)...

Kuvvaci: The turks in Bulgaria are around 800 000 ppl... but a lot of the bulgarians are racists and they hate the turks and muslims because of the Ottoman "slavery" ( as they call it) :nuts: The bulgarian language is close to the serbian but it's full of turkish words. :lol:
I want to ask you something: What the ppl of Turkey think about Bulgaria and bulgars? Cuz bulgarians think that turks want to kill them all, to destroy bulgaria and etc..:bash:

p.c. I'am turk....:dj:

Is it possible to see a map with all Turkish cities hosting the games?

Here is the candidate cities
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4799/blankmapturkeyprovinces.jpg

Thanks! It coincides with the high-speed railway building in Turkey very well:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/YHT_Turkey_1200x675.png/800px-YHT_Turkey_1200x675.png

^^Exactly. But there should be a Northern city too from the Blacksea Region, such as Trabzon or Samsun.

mmm

^^Exactly. But there should be a Northern city too from the Blacksea Region, such as Trabzon or Samsun.

I disagree.. No need fo Trabzon, Samsun is too away and transportation handicaped.. Selected cities are the bst options for now.

Yes.
Currently we have a smal "war" in Turkey.
"Why not a city from the east and blacksea area etc" :)

^^ also why not that stadium (for example Fenerbahçe president),

But if guys think properly, they will see that TFF selected the best options for getting the EURO. We had not another chance.

New poll

I disagree.. No need fo Trabzon, Samsun is too away and transportation handicaped.. Selected cities are the bst options for now.
You're right but I think federation should show some respect to the Trabzon since the city itself has the biggest percentage of football fans after the Istanbul.

^^ so, the bid folder would be weak against France and Italy. Trabzon is not a city wich is suitable for UEFA criterians and standarts. It is not important their fans, it is important the guest fans. Transportation, housing, winning and the distance to other cities.. Also all cities have very good fans in Turkey, wich city could be out, Eskişehir, Bursa, Kayseri or Antalya? Wich of those cities could be out for a city wich is not suitable for any standart of UEFA?

I'm agree with Kuvvaci...

I don't like one thing at the turkish bid... the stadiums are too small.. Bursa is town with population of 3mln ppl and the stadium will be 33k or 35k... they' ve to make it 40k at least.... It will be good for future turkish bid for WC...

We have to wait.
If Bursa's new stadium will be built in a new area than can maybe build a bigger one.

I don't like one thing at the turkish bid... the stadiums are too small.. Bursa is town with population of 3mln ppl and the stadium will be 33k or 35k... they' ve to make it 40k at least.... It will be good for future turkish bid for WC...

though the capacities are enough for EURO. France and Italy shows bigger capacities because they want those stadiums for their local leagues.

Want Istanbul to win but voted for Italy, as I think they will win, after their previous bid.
France could of course be the safe bet UEFA needs, which I suspect will mean lots of votes.

^^^
Story of the logo (short clips. Go to promo videos)
http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/index.php
or youtube :)





Actually those stadiums / capacity are planned

1. ISTANBUL - Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi
76,092 (-> plan to expand and new roof. New cap: 80k+?)

2. ISTANBUL - Türk Telekom Arena
52,647
u/c (2010)

3. ANKARA - New Stadium
45,000
pro

4. IZMIR - New Stadium
44,000
pro

5. BURSA - New Stadium
34,750 (maybe location will be changed. So new project?)
pro

6. ANTALYA - New Stadium
31,500 (or new project)
pro

7. KONYA - New Stadium
33,000
pro

8. KAYSERI - Kadir Has Stadi
32,864
built

9. ESKISEHIR - New Stadium
33,000
pro

Thats a lot of new venues that are needed.

If I were France, I would go along the route of ..."we could host the event tomorrow".

If I were France, I would go along the route of ..."we could host the event tomorrow".

That was what Spain tried for Euro 04, it blown in their faces, Portugal was in the same place of Turkey and got 90% of the votes while Austria/Hungary got the remaining 10%.

What happened to the Sweden/ Norway bid?

That was what Spain tried for Euro 04, it blown in their faces, Portugal was in the same place of Turkey and got 90% of the votes while Austria/Hungary got the remaining 10%.

Were Ukraine/Poland preparing to host while they were bidding?

Were Ukraine/Poland preparing to host while they were bidding?

I've no idea since I didn't followed the Euro12 bids, but I followed Euro 04 very closely and it resembles Euro16 greatly since Portugal wasn't ready to host the tournment but it had a number of stadiums planned if Portugal was awarded the Euro while Spain's main argument was that it could host Euro 04 in the following day if necessary.

IMO UEFA will want a "safer" host after 2012, especially with regards to the issues with Ukraine/Poland 2012, some of which have now been resolved.

Were Ukraine/Poland preparing to host while they were bidding?

Im not sure about Poland, but in Donetsk, they broke ground to start building the Donbass-Arena in 2005.

IMO UEFA will want a "safer" host after 2012, especially with regards to the issues with Ukraine/Poland 2012, some of which have now been resolved.

+ first time 24 teams

I voted for France because i'm studying French. In all honesty, i think Turkey will win.

+ first time 24 teams

but do not forget that Turkey seems preparing the best project so far. Also third time candidate and wants it more than the others.

Also other countries has stadium construction works as much as Turkey has. For example France needs to renew all stadiums out of Paris. Italy needs to build new stadiums except Roma Olimpico and San Siro of Milan.

Plus, unlike Ukraine and Poland, Turkey doesn't need extra infrasutructure works while, just need to finish current railways and highway constructions.

btw according to our tff president we had the best technical report for the 2012 bid

I don't know. Of course France and Italy can host the tournement very well and both are big football nations as the part of football industry with their local leagues and international succeses.

But they organizes such events before. Turkey didn't do, but it is the thrid candiateture of the country. Also prepared a good project. There are some modern stadiums already. Doesn't need so much infrasutructuree works, at least not as much as Poland and Ukraine.I think Turkey has a good chance.

But others can win too, but only for one reason; because of the football indistury needs to develop the local leagues of those nations. Because more than hosting such tournements both France and Italy need to have new stadiums for the quality of the leagues. They couldn't upgrade their stadiums in europe yet, when Germany, Portugal, or England do.

btw according to our tff president we had the best technical report for the 2012 bid

But we still won ;)

I have a feeling that Turkey will win this one though. We'll see when UEFA votes.

I don't know. Of course France and Italy can host the tournement very well and both are big football nations as the part of football industry with their local leagues and international succeses.

But they organizes such events before. Turkey didn't do, but it is the thrid candiateture of the country. Also prepared a good project. There are some modern stadiums already. Doesn't need so much infrasutructuree works, at least not as much as Poland and Ukraine.I think Turkey has a good chance.

But others can win too, but only for one reason; because of the football indistury needs to develop the local leagues of those nations. Because more than hosting such tournements both France and Italy need to have new stadiums for the quality of the leagues. They couldn't upgrade their stadiums in europe yet, when Germany, Portugal, or England do.

So in all it will be a thriller :D

So we were bad at other things

I don't know why we always talk about Turkey. What is the last situation with Italy and France?

project of France... more cities, ten constructions, higher capacities and long distances.

http://www.1zest2sport.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Carte-France-Euro-2016.png

Actually France will have 9 stadiums and 8 cities.
Like Turkey.

so what is that map?

so what is that map?

Wow! That's like only turkey is present here for the last few pages!
I'll give you some news of the french bid tonight then!
This map is the map of the selected towns (12) among which it hasn't been decided yet which ones would be the 9 candidates and the 3 "substitutes" towns.
I don't think Italy have a big chance to win, they don't seem to be extremely interested in that bid...IMO it's gonna be tight between France and Turkey! :banana:

^^ I agree... My logic says "France" but my sense says "Turkey". We will see.

If Turkey wins , it will be because of Turkey has never host this tournement before and this is Turkey's thrid time candidancy and this time, more willing.

If France wins, it will be because of its better infrasutructure and with the power of football industry...

If France wins, nobody asks "why". Same goes for Turkey.

Does France have a website?

This is the website of Turkey; http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/

The race will be between Turkey and France.

OK So here the latest developments on the french Bid:

1) The map which has been published is right, but includes the 3 substitutes cities which have not been designated yet. IMO it will certainly be Lens, Saint Etienne and Nancy (The 3 "less touristic" cities).
2) again some words on the projects:

-Saint Denis: Stade de France, 81000 seats, no major upgrade necessary

-Marseille, Velodrome, 70000 seats: The stadium exists (60000 seats yet) but need an upgrade, including putting 10000 more seats (among which 5000 VIP seats and boxes) and adding a roof. 2 projects are under development and will be presented next week. Then The town, which already voted the upgrade, will chose the winning project later this year.

-Lyon, OL Land, 61 000 seats:
Lyon has a stadium (42000 seats, renovated for WC 98) but the club wants to build a new one for years. Fundings already exists and are completely private (Olympique Lyonnais) but the Administration is a bit slow, and the project is therefore a little bit delayed compared to the original plan (that's a massive problem in France, all new stadiums suffer delays because of protests of the neighbours of the future stadiums who block the constructions...). However it should be ready for 2014 normally.

-Lille, Grand Stade, 50 000 seats, arena :
This new arena project is massive, works have started for the preparation of the land, and the authorisation to build has been delivered last month. Will be ready in 2012. Lille Currently has no stadium

-Paris, Parc des princes, 45 000 seats:
The stadium exist, but suffer from a lack of luxury boxes. A project (70 M euros) will add a retractable roof and boxes. However nothing is officially started yet. It is not very clear what the capacity will be after the upgrade.

-Bordeaux, New Stadium, 43 000 seats:
Bordeaux stadium is currently holding 34 000 seats, but it is impossible to upgrade it to the standards for EURO 2016. Therefore the club and the city wants to build a new stadium. This project was for a long time the less advanced in the French Bid, with no informations, no fundings announced, but in the last 3 months it seems to have speed up impressively. The money (190 M euro) is almost there (the club, state and city have now promised 170 M euros, but they suffer to find the last 20 M euros necessary) and 4 architect groups, amongst who Herzog & de Meuron are interested in presenting a project. The scheduled is tight but it should be ready.

-Toulouse, Stadium, 40 000:
The stadium exists and has already been renovated in 98, but needs an upgrade to be able to host the Euro. A Second tier will be added all around the stadium for 50 M Euros. It looks like the city can easily pay for it and is happy with what the state promised. It should be ready by 2013/2014.

-Nice, New Stadium, 35/40 000:
The mayor wants a new stadium, but it's not new and several other projects have been abandonned before...No info has really come out yet. I guess the city will be in the 9 cities proposed (because of accessibility, proximity to Italy, touristic capacity...) but will fail to be ready, and will therefore be replaced by one of the 3 substitutes...

-Strasbourg, Meinau, 36 000:
The stadium exists but is quite crappy and could not host it without a major upgrade.
The city proposed to build a second tier all around the stadium for 160M euros, ready in 2014. This has been voted last summer. Strasbourg has money, because of its "EU capital city" status and the funding should not be a problem. However the club is at the moment 19th in the 2nd League in France, and its situation could slow down this project as opponents will argue such a stadium is not necessary...More news in the next month, as the architect contest should be launched.

-Nancy, Marcel Picot, 35 000:
The stadium exist but needs an upgrade (a bit like Strasbourg). 70 M euros for the project to build a second tier and a retractable roof. Project paid by the club, should be ready in 2013. We already have seen detailed pictures of the project. The town suffers from the proximity with Strasbourg and its poor touristic attractivity. Might be a substitute for Strasbourg.

-Lens, Bollaert, 45 000:
100 Meuros for a small upgrade of the stadium. The project existed for years but the relegation of Lens in 2n League slowed it down. Now the club is back in 1st League. It should be ready as it doesn't need a major upgrae to be able to host the Euro (new roof essentially to cover all seats).

-Saint Etienne, Geoffroy Guichard, 41 000:
The stadium exist and will be upgraded from 35 to 41000 seats by closing the corners and changing the roof. city has given his agreement for this already. No news since that...

3) The Government is quite willing to win this bid after the failures of Paris 2008 and 2012 for SOG, and Basket WC 2010 (lost against..Turkey!), and has already promised 150 M Euros for the Stadiums.

4) The Website is There:
http://tousensemble2016.fff.fr/euro2016/
To see pictures of the stadiums, you can go there and click on the different towns:
http://tousensemble2016.fff.fr/euro2016/carte_euro2016/531348.shtml

5) Concerning infrastuctures, transports and hosting capacities:
Transport:
Paris, Lyon, Marseille, Strasbourg, Nancy, Lille, Lens are all accessible by High Speed Train (TGV) and Nice should be connected by 2016.
Hosting capacities:
All the cities except maybe St Etienne, Lens and Nancy are major touristic centers and therefore have enough hotels etc...to host the Event. Moreover I thing The 8 others are the 8 Biggest French cities, except Nantes who decided not to bid.

seems enough stong bid... scary for us ...

^^ Here is my contribution :)

French bid

TGV High speed national and international network:
-TGV Atlantique
-TGV Méditerrannée
-TGV Nord & Nord-Europe (France-Belgium)
-TGV Est-Europe (France-Luxembourg-Germany) & ICE (France-Germany)
-Eurostar (France-UK-Belgium)
-Thalys (France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany)
-Lyria aka Ligne de Coeur (France-Switzerland)

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http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/677/capturedcran20091021103.jpghttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4702/capturedcran20091019201.jpghttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6352/32345824jpg.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1594/tgvposnurembergingolsta.jpghttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7545/20090228123145middlejpg.jpghttp://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8928/tgvduplexjpg.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3029/portals0imageseuropeant.jpg



Most of candidate cities have an international airport and France has a good highway network.



Cities & Stadiums : (9+3)

1 Paris/St-Denis (Stade de France) 81,338 (renovation)
2 Marseille 65/75,000 (extension)
3 Lyon (Ol Land) 61,556 (new)
4 Paris (Parc des Princes) 50/53,000 + retractable roof ? (extension)
5 Lille 50,283 + Retractable Roof & Movable Pitch (new)
6 Lens 44.000 (extension)
7 Bordeaux 43,500 (new)
8 Toulouse 40/43,000 (extension)
9 St Etienne 42,000 (extension)
10 Strasbourg 36,000 (extension)
11 Nice 35/38,000 (new)
12 Nancy 35,000 + Retractable Roof (extension)


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Paris (St-Denis)

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http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1678/garererblaplainestadede.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/16/pml.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5069/138stdenismetrostationj.jpg


Stade de France (81,338: renovation)

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http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9471/30065323744909b77e4bb.jpghttp://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6113/3477622954698cb272afbjp.jpg


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Marseille

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4025/34609614.jpghttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/724/trambigmarseillejpg.jpghttp://img513.imageshack.us/img513/871/dfgn.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5962/vue1jpg.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/362/marseilleparkriss69.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6831/marseilleports1jpg.jpg

Stade Vélodrome (65/75K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5475/capturedcran20091017142.jpghttp://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9108/gfhsjgf.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2429/3568englandcopie.jpghttp://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1102/fdghx.jpg


Vision:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/120/velodrome.jpg


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Lyon

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http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4679/125ruestjeanvieuxlyonjp.jpghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6595/5jpgz.jpghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/15/lesquaisdesane.jpg

"OL Land" (61,556: new)

Project (approved):
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/556/main4copie.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7854/main6copie.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8564/capturedcran20091022160.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4536/16bollandprojet2011copi.jpg


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Paris

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http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5480/champselysesvuedelaconc.jpghttp://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3702/pontalexandreiiijpg.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8089/paristramsfinallyinserv.jpg
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Parc des Princes (50/53K + retractable roof ?: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9144/154272660470d62fe61doco.jpghttp://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4949/328303187158494fcfe6bco.jpg

Proposal:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7236/capturedcran20091213020.jpghttp://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7236/capturedcran20091213020.jpg


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Lille (the important European crossroads)

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"Grand Stade" (50,283 + retractable roof + mobile pitch: new)

Project (u/c):
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/695/image1iki.jpghttp://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9571/image8in.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8362/15grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg


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Lens

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http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7399/zoomsurlintrieurduhalld.jpghttp://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9962/photootlens.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4461/chevalementlievinjpg.jpg

Stade Félix-Bollaert (44K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2698/1racingclubdelensvueari.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/416/31rclensinterieurwc1998.jpghttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1003/34rclensintrieurcopie.jpg

Proposal:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2043/capturedcran20091017150n.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5766/10stadeflixbollaertproj.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5506/15stadeflixbollaertproj.jpg


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Bordeaux

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http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4599/bordeauxmeriadeckjpg.jpghttp://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8656/retouchephototheatredeb.jpghttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4618/file3109143466jpg.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1197/francebordeauxfrancebor.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1818/theimerjpg.jpghttp://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9180/bordeauxlaruesaintecath.jpg

"Grand Stade" (43/44K: new)



No proposal yet !


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Toulouse (HomeTown of Airbus, the home base of the European aerospace industry)

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Stadium Municipal (40/43K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/807/capturedcran20091017143.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3563/37stadiumintrieurrwc200.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5092/33stadiumintrieurcopie.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9392/44stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg


They will extend the second ring all around the stadium and change all the seats.


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St-Etienne

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http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1957/saintetiennehoteldevill.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4527/fichiersigesocialdecasi.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3031/fichierplaceneuveruepie.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1921/saintetienneplacejeanja.jpghttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1253/zenith03.jpghttp://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5616/placedupeuplejpg.jpg

Stade Geoffroy-Guichard (42K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7486/capturedcran20091017144.jpghttp://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9940/31stadegeoffroyguichard.jpg


No proposal yet, but they are going to close the corners (with stands & suites) and remove the current roofs in order to add a new one over the whole "new" stadium.


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Nice (Côte d'Azur/French Riviera)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5425/dscn50711221328225jpg.jpghttp://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5541/nicerossettijpg.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/104/nicetramjpg.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7843/portnicejpg.jpghttp://img81.imageshack.us/img81/379/nicearenasjpg.jpghttp://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1346/placemassnanicejpg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5969/48525075e2fb006bebjpg.jpghttp://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2164/njfraggae379jpg.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7520/nicebaiejpg.jpg

"Grand Stade" (35/38K: new)



No render yet ! (approved)


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Strasbourg (known as the European capital: EU Parliament, Council of Europe, European Court of Human Rights... etc)

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Stade de la Meinau (36K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6199/52882666587002406288902.jpghttp://img381.imageshack.us/img381/889/221863775be7cd814ebocop.jpg

Vision:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9528/arton74.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5377/meinau1.jpg


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Nancy (Nancy's region is the homeland of Michel Platini :yes:)

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Stade Marcel-Picot (35K + retractable roof: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4154/capturedcran20091017145.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1354/1183653956copie.jpghttp://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9483/nancy04copie.jpg

Project (approved):
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1221/63568605.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9774/87769300.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5591/95310123.jpg

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More info about stadia on the FRANCE - Stadium and Arena Development News (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=571027) thread.

thank you for this presentation... I think France has very possitive sides, including UEFA president.

But France has two important negative sides, host of EURO 84 and WC 98 wich is close date. And having a rival like Turkey that never host before and so willing and capabale to host it very well.

I think it will be a eastern countries vs. western countries battle! Eastern countries like Ukraine, Poland, Russia will support countries that have never hosted an EURO; in this case: TURKEY!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/10/UEFA_members.svg/720px-UEFA_members.svg.png

Willing and capable, yes, but you're bidding just after Poland/Ukraine's major issues have been somewhat resolved. If anything, Platini will be urging members to go safe, and vote France.

thank you for this presentation... I think France has very possitive sides, including UEFA president.

But France has two important negative sides, host of EURO 84 and WC 98 wich is close date. And having a rival like Turkey that never host before and so willing and capabale to host it very well.
Actually its
EURO 1960 and EURO 1984
and
WC 1938 and WC 1998


Fran's cities are better and bigger stadiums :(

I till believe that they will give it to a "big" antions, because:
- first one after 1996
- fist time 24 clubs
- its "safe" that they will not have problems with buildings stadium etc

and ofcourse POl and UKR was in E-Europe. Time for W-Europe :)

I agree with your analysis, but anyway, if France or Italy gets it, it will be time for E-Europe again in 2020 and I don't see any other country (except maybe Russia) capable of stealing it from Turkey in that case...
:)

Actually its
EURO 1960 and EURO 1984
and
WC 1938 and WC 1998


Fran's cities are better and bigger stadiums :(

I till believe that they will give it to a "big" antions, because:
- first one after 1996
- fist time 24 clubs
- its "safe" that they will not have problems with buildings stadium etc

and ofcourse POl and UKR was in E-Europe. Time for W-Europe :)

Yes. 2020 sounds better. 2x 20 :D

I agree, France is the favorite, but I expect a surprise.

Nice is an awsome city, I visited in september 2004 and I enjoyed the city a lot more than Monaco.

France seems to be a good front-runner. I am waiting Italian strategy. Turkey seems to be difficult to beat.
All the three bids would need to upgrade some stadiums if they were in a world cup race.
If Turkey success for 2016 Euro, I could consider they COULD organize a World cup.

Nice presentation of France.
I still hope Italy can pull out some awesome stadium projects for this Euro and win the bid, imo they need it more than France.

When will the decision be made?

^^on 28th of May

^^ That's pretty soon.
Is there anything official from Italy (like a website) or was it all speculation so far?

we dont know. France has and Turkey has too. Turkey will announce the projects on 15th of February.

^^ Here is my contribution :)

French bid

TGV High speed national and international network:
-TGV Atlantique
-TGV Méditerrannée
-TGV Nord & Nord-Europe (France-Belgium)
-TGV Est-Europe (France-Luxembourg-Germany) & ICE (France-Germany)
-Eurostar (France-UK-Belgium)
-Thalys (France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany)
-Lyria aka Ligne de Coeur (France-Switzerland)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5118/872121208a10edb242bbjpg.jpghttp://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6682/garedunord0005jpg.jpghttp://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6466/frtgvduplexeurostarxxlj.jpg
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http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1594/tgvposnurembergingolsta.jpghttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7545/20090228123145middlejpg.jpghttp://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8928/tgvduplexjpg.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3029/portals0imageseuropeant.jpg



Most of candidate cities have an international airport and France has a good highway network.



Cities & Stadiums : (9+3)

1 Paris/St-Denis (Stade de France) 81,338 (renovation)
2 Marseille 65/70,000 (extension)
3 Lyon (Ol Land) 61,556 (new)
4 Paris (Parc des Princes) 50/53,000 + retractable roof ? (extension)
5 Lille 50,283 + Retractable Roof & Movable Pitch (new)
6 Lens 44.000 (extension)
7 Bordeaux 43,500 (new)
8 Toulouse 40/43,000 (extension)
9 St Etienne 42,000 (extension)
10 Strasbourg 36,000 (extension)
11 Nice 35/38,000 (new)
12 Nancy 35,000 + Retractable Roof (extension)


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Paris (St-Denis)

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8062/12octobre028jpg.jpghttp://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1859/basiliquestdenisparvisc.jpghttp://img684.imageshack.us/img684/200/h2013251701226652883jpg.jpg
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1678/garererblaplainestadede.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/16/pml.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5069/138stdenismetrostationj.jpg


Stade de France (81,338: renovation)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5475/capturedcran20091017142.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/15/2893742578ff3fed3a95bjp.jpg
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Marseille

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http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5962/vue1jpg.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/362/marseilleparkriss69.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6831/marseilleports1jpg.jpg

Stade Vélodrome (65/70k: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5475/capturedcran20091017142.jpghttp://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9108/gfhsjgf.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2429/3568englandcopie.jpghttp://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1102/fdghx.jpg


Vision:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/120/velodrome.jpg


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Lyon

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3687/dsc04597jpg.jpghttp://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9602/lyonskylineparyanosso.jpghttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8274/lyontramsparmichallon.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4044/lyonquaisdurhne.jpghttp://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9267/operadelyonjpg.jpghttp://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6884/lyonmetroparromanyudkin.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4679/125ruestjeanvieuxlyonjp.jpghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6595/5jpgz.jpghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/15/lesquaisdesane.jpg

"OL Land" (61,556: new)

Project (approved):
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/556/main4copie.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7854/main6copie.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8564/capturedcran20091022160.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4536/16bollandprojet2011copi.jpg


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Paris

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3129/14935jpg.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6025/fotoreiseparis16232cmjn.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1295/image8wjpg.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5480/champselysesvuedelaconc.jpghttp://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3702/pontalexandreiiijpg.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8089/paristramsfinallyinserv.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2742/37442statueoflibertyjpg.jpghttp://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7/l1408bibliotheque07jpg.jpghttp://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1737/328807721008c5173b8cjpg.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5114/image10ijpg.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9388/26687347153cef56ef06bjp.jpghttp://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7256/226hjjpg.jpg

Parc des Princes (50/53K + retractable roof ?: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9144/154272660470d62fe61doco.jpghttp://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4949/328303187158494fcfe6bco.jpg

Proposal:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7236/capturedcran20091213020.jpghttp://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7236/capturedcran20091213020.jpg


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Lille

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7747/lilleeuralilleroserjpg.jpghttp://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7937/lillegrandplacejpg.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6094/10281lillemetrosystemwe.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9941/lille1024x768jpg.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9798/lillemetroonviaductparm.jpghttp://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1492/lille2jpg.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/172/lillelogvieuxlillenejpg.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9962/lillebraderie200310jpg.jpghttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6392/lille18926operajpg.jpg

"Grand Stade" (50,283 + retractable roof + mobile pitch: new)

Project (u/c):
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/695/image1iki.jpghttp://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9571/image8in.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8362/15grandstadeprojet2011c.jpg


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Lens

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9357/lensnoel2007.jpghttp://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2649/bassinminierjpg.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/585/interieurhallaccueiljpg.jpg
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7399/zoomsurlintrieurduhalld.jpghttp://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9962/photootlens.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4461/chevalementlievinjpg.jpg

Stade Félix-Bollaert (44K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2698/1racingclubdelensvueari.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/416/31rclensinterieurwc1998.jpghttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1003/34rclensintrieurcopie.jpg

Proposal:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2043/capturedcran20091017150n.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5766/10stadeflixbollaertproj.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5506/15stadeflixbollaertproj.jpg


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Bordeaux

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http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4599/bordeauxmeriadeckjpg.jpghttp://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8656/retouchephototheatredeb.jpghttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4618/file3109143466jpg.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1197/francebordeauxfrancebor.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1818/theimerjpg.jpghttp://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9180/bordeauxlaruesaintecath.jpg

"Grand Stade" (43/44K: new)



No proposal yet !


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Toulouse

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http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/236/toulousejpg.jpghttp://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6585/32809574614e8bedd98dbjp.jpghttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8629/image36jjpg.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8136/image43cjpg.jpghttp://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9274/toulousecanaldebriennej.jpghttp://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8523/a380fti1jpgjpg.jpg

Stadium Municipal (40/43K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/807/capturedcran20091017143.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3563/37stadiumintrieurrwc200.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5092/33stadiumintrieurcopie.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9392/44stadiumtribuneprincip.jpg


They will extend the second ring all around the stadium and change all the seats.


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St-Etienne

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http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1957/saintetiennehoteldevill.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4527/fichiersigesocialdecasi.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3031/fichierplaceneuveruepie.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1921/saintetienneplacejeanja.jpghttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1253/zenith03.jpghttp://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5616/placedupeuplejpg.jpg

Stade Geoffroy-Guichard (42K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7486/capturedcran20091017144.jpghttp://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9940/31stadegeoffroyguichard.jpg


No proposal yet, but they are going to close the corners (with stands & suites) and remove the current roofs in order to add a new one over the whole "new" stadium.


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Nice

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http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7843/portnicejpg.jpghttp://img81.imageshack.us/img81/379/nicearenasjpg.jpghttp://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1346/placemassnanicejpg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5969/48525075e2fb006bebjpg.jpghttp://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2164/njfraggae379jpg.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7520/nicebaiejpg.jpg

"Grand Stade" (35/38K: new)



No render yet ! (approved)


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Strasbourg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8590/photostrasbourg.jpghttp://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1839/cathedraledestrasbourg0.jpghttp://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5660/bt1823strasbourghrjpg.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3816/parlementeuropeenstrasb.jpghttp://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3510/fileepstrasbourghemicyc.jpghttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6520/img5301jpg.jpg
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7696/strasbourg109jpg.jpghttp://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1945/strasbourgjpg.jpghttp://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9012/1192365133mainjpg.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2870/strasbourgtramdowntowns.jpghttp://img686.imageshack.us/img686/5342/nouvellegarestrasbourg2.jpghttp://img685.imageshack.us/img685/11/strasbourgpetitefrancej.jpg

Stade de la Meinau (36K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6199/52882666587002406288902.jpghttp://img381.imageshack.us/img381/889/221863775be7cd814ebocop.jpg

Vision:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9528/arton74.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5377/meinau1.jpg


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Nancy (Nancy's region is the homeland of Michel Platini :yes:)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6131/portedelacraffeenvillev.jpghttp://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6721/hotelvillenancyjpg.jpghttp://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5627/nancyplacestanislassued.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6082/villedenancy.jpghttp://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4876/769844799ee8a8826fjpg.jpghttp://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7899/stanbusbahnnancyjpg.jpg
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4381/placestanislaslargejpg.jpghttp://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3230/stadtbahnnancyjpg.jpghttp://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9717/placestanislasnordnancy.jpg

Stade Marcel-Picot (35K + retractable roof: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4154/capturedcran20091017145.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1354/1183653956copie.jpghttp://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9483/nancy04copie.jpg

Project (approved):
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1221/63568605.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9774/87769300.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5591/95310123.jpg

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More info about stadia on the FRANCE - Stadium and Arena Development News (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=571027) thread.


I think that France is the favourite :nuts:

France is strong... But getting the tournement needs some other factors. Could you believe UKR/POL bid won against Italy last time?

I hope France but i expect also a surprise...

^^ is your surprise Italy or Turkey? Because Italy seems surprise too, because they don't take bidding process so serious so far.

I hope it will be Italy, In this case it might become the first final tournament I will go to.

In what way did they not take the bid seriously or are they thinking to quit?

hello!
i'm a new member, and i'm suprised by the fact that you didn't talk very much about the italian bid:
here's the logo
http://www.puntosport.net/puntosport-incorso/images/Image/CALCIO%202010/Varie/Italia_Euro2016.jpg

there is not an official site, but we have got a section with some infortmations about the bid on our FA's site www.figc.it

howewer, the 12 cities are:

ROME: Olympic stadium,standing 72.698

it's one of the only stadiums that doesn't need any upgrades, it's a nice stadium, it hosts every year and athletichs meeting and it hosted the 2009 Champions League Final. The only problem, that is a commun problem in most of the italian stadiums, is the athletich track that does not help for a nice view of the match
http://imgpe.trivago.com/uploadimages/50/10/5010652_l.jpeg

MILAN: San Siro stadium, standing 80.074

It's a magnific stadium. It hosts Inter and Milan's matches, and it only needs a minor upgrade. When it'll be ready, it will be like manchester's Old Trafford
http://www.tuttomilan.net/stadio-san-siro.jpg
http://rugby1823.blogosfere.it/images/sansiro-rugby.JPG

NAPLES: Probably new stadium (probably standing 45.000) to replace San Paolo

The president of S.S.C Napoli, Aurelio De Laurentiis, would like to shoot down the old San Paolo stadium and replace it with the new stadium. Howewer, he's waiting for UEFA's decision in May to present a project

http://www.calcio-giocato.com/immagini/sanpaolo.jpg

BARI: Upgrade for San Nicola Stadium, standing 58.270

The project is to upgrade the stadium built (very badly) for 1990's WC, take off the athletich's track and make it suitable to UEFA standard's.

http://www.osservatoriosport.interno.it/primo_piano/2009/aprile/san_nicola.JPG


FLORENCE: Upgrade for Artemio Franchi Stadium, standing 46.389 or maybe new stadium (standing 40/50.000)

Here the situation is not very good. Diego Della Valle, A.C.F Fiorentina's president, has presented a new stadium, but the project has not been approved from the municipality, that maybe could approve another project if Italy will get euro 2016, but the most convenient thing for them is to upgrade the ugly and old Artemio Franchi

http://aisforarchitecture.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/stadionuovo5.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ITA/Artemio_Franchi2.jpg

UDINE: Major Upgrade for Friuli Stadium, standing 30.667 (upgrade to 41.368)

The situation is better here: Udine's municipality has approved a project to upgrade the stadium if Italy will get euro 2016. It consists in taking off the athletich's track, putting 10.000 new seats on and covering the stadium up.

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ITA/Friuli5.jpeg
http://www.udine20.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RENDERING-BOZZA-STADIO20.jpg

TURIN: New Juventus Arena, standing 41.000 (ready in 2011)

Construction of this stadium started in 2008 and it will terminate in 2011. It will be the new Juventus F.C's stadium.

http://www.tuttosport.com/images/49/C_3_Media_586049_immagine_l.jpg
http://jcmeda.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/144cgz.jpg

VERONA: Renovations planned for Bentegodi stadium, standing 39.371

Municipality has approved the upgrade of Bentegodi, with the same caracteristichs of the other ones (no atletichs ect...)

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/redboys/stadi%202003/foto/Stadio_verona%20bentegodi%2045000.jpg

PALERMO: New stadium to replace Renzo Barbera (37,619)

The new stadium, proposed by U.S Palermo,has been approved by the municipalitty and it will probably be built even without euro 2016.

http://lnx.mediagol.it/archiviofotografico/cache/stadio/nuovo%20stadio/mobilitapalermo_nuovo_stadio-palermo23-10-2009-1.jpg_595.jpg

CAGLIARI: New stadium Karalis Arena (33.000) to replace Sant'Elia (23,486)

The situation is similar to Palermo: the project has been approved by the municipality and the construction will start this year. new stadium, karalis arena, will have 33.000 seats

http://unionesarda.ilsole24ore.com/foto/ArticoloSezione/265621.jpg
http://static.blogo.it/calcioblog/caralis-arena-il-nuovo-stadio-del-cagliari/stadiocagliari01.jpeg

PARMA: Ennio Tardini stadium (current capacity 27,906) planned for renovations

The city came in the bid recently after Bologna's forfait. The project is to renove and upgrade the old Ennio Tardini Stadium

http://www.sdamy.com/images/Tardini-di-Parma.jpg

CESENA: Dino Manuzzi stadium (current capacity 23.860) planned for renovations (it will certainly be a reserve stadium)

Even this city came in recently to replace Genova. The project is to renove the old stadium, by building a new stand and reaching 30,000 seats, only if italy will get euro 2016

http://www.tuttiallostadio.it/Belgio/CESENA%20STADIO.jpg

building stadiums in Italy is quite difficult but a law (legge butti-lolli) can help us. The law is going to be approved by the Italian parliament, we hope by the 15th of February.

Well, this is the italian bid. Hope you like it!!

P.S: sorry if I did some English mistakes :-)

^^ i put back the image of verona's stadium, the link doesn't work very well, sometimes I see it and sometimes I don't

http://www.comune.torino.it/pass/php/4/img/sport/stadi/stadioverona.gif

what a minute
No Genova?

What will be the capacity of the new Palermo stadium?

genova cannot use luigi ferraris stadium (one of the best ones in italy) because they would have to destroy some houses and a prison to rend it suitable with UEFA standards. Genova's municipality didn't reach to approve a project for a new stadium, so the city retired its bid.
However new Palermo stadium is expected to have 40,000 seats, but the project could change if Italy will have euro 2016

what a minute
No Genova?

What will be the capacity of the new Palermo stadium?

genova cannot use luigi ferraris stadium (one of the best ones in italy) because they would have to destroy some houses and a prison to rend it suitable with UEFA standards. Genova's municipality didn't reach to approve a project for a new stadium, so the city retired its bid.
However new Palermo stadium is expected to have 40,000 seats, but the project could change if Italy will have euro 2016

Hope Italy will get Euro and get those stadiums going!

IMO Franchi from Florenza should be 100% to get rid of those stands in the back of the goals so far from the pitch!
Another problem is that a lot of stadium are built with tracks just like Delle Alpi was and for no good reason! I mean OK, Keep Olimpico, but the rest?
And BTW Sercan, what is the minimum nr. of stadiums and what capacity for each one ( ex. 2 50.000, 3 40.000 and 4 30.000 ).

I hope it will be Italy, In this case it might become the first final tournament I will go to.

In what way did they not take the bid seriously or are they thinking to quit?


are you italian???

^^ Here is my contribution :)

French bid

TGV High speed national and international network:
-TGV Atlantique
-TGV Méditerrannée
-TGV Nord & Nord-Europe (France-Belgium)
-TGV Est-Europe (France-Luxembourg-Germany) & ICE (France-Germany)
-Eurostar (France-UK-Belgium)
-Thalys (France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany)
-Lyria aka Ligne de Coeur (France-Switzerland)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5118/872121208a10edb242bbjpg.jpghttp://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6682/garedunord0005jpg.jpghttp://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6466/frtgvduplexeurostarxxlj.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/677/capturedcran20091021103.jpghttp://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4702/capturedcran20091019201.jpghttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6352/32345824jpg.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1594/tgvposnurembergingolsta.jpghttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7545/20090228123145middlejpg.jpghttp://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8928/tgvduplexjpg.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3029/portals0imageseuropeant.jpg



Most of candidate cities have an international airport and France has a good highway network.



Cities & Stadiums : (9+3)

1 Paris/St-Denis (Stade de France) 81,338 (renovation)
2 Marseille 65/70,000 (extension)
3 Lyon (Ol Land) 61,556 (new)
4 Paris (Parc des Princes) 50/53,000 + retractable roof ? (extension)
5 Lille 50,283 + Retractable Roof & Movable Pitch (new)
6 Lens 44.000 (extension)
7 Bordeaux 43,500 (new)
8 Toulouse 40/43,000 (extension)
9 St Etienne 42,000 (extension)
10 Strasbourg 36,000 (extension)
11 Nice 35/38,000 (new)
12 Nancy 35,000 + Retractable Roof (extension)


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Paris (St-Denis)

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http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1678/garererblaplainestadede.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/16/pml.jpghttp://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5069/138stdenismetrostationj.jpg


Stade de France (81,338: renovation)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5475/capturedcran20091017142.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/15/2893742578ff3fed3a95bjp.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9471/30065323744909b77e4bb.jpghttp://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6113/3477622954698cb272afbjp.jpg


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Marseille

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4025/34609614.jpghttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/724/trambigmarseillejpg.jpghttp://img513.imageshack.us/img513/871/dfgn.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5962/vue1jpg.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/362/marseilleparkriss69.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6831/marseilleports1jpg.jpg

Stade Vélodrome (65/70k: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5475/capturedcran20091017142.jpghttp://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9108/gfhsjgf.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2429/3568englandcopie.jpghttp://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1102/fdghx.jpg


Vision:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/120/velodrome.jpg


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Lyon

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http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4044/lyonquaisdurhne.jpghttp://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9267/operadelyonjpg.jpghttp://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6884/lyonmetroparromanyudkin.jpg
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4679/125ruestjeanvieuxlyonjp.jpghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6595/5jpgz.jpghttp://img97.imageshack.us/img97/15/lesquaisdesane.jpg

"OL Land" (61,556: new)

Project (approved):
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/556/main4copie.jpghttp://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7854/main6copie.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8564/capturedcran20091022160.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4536/16bollandprojet2011copi.jpg


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Paris

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/3129/14935jpg.jpghttp://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6025/fotoreiseparis16232cmjn.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1295/image8wjpg.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5480/champselysesvuedelaconc.jpghttp://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3702/pontalexandreiiijpg.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8089/paristramsfinallyinserv.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2742/37442statueoflibertyjpg.jpghttp://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7/l1408bibliotheque07jpg.jpghttp://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1737/328807721008c5173b8cjpg.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5114/image10ijpg.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9388/26687347153cef56ef06bjp.jpghttp://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7256/226hjjpg.jpg

Parc des Princes (50/53K + retractable roof ?: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/9144/154272660470d62fe61doco.jpghttp://img381.imageshack.us/img381/4949/328303187158494fcfe6bco.jpg

Proposal:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7236/capturedcran20091213020.jpghttp://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7236/capturedcran20091213020.jpg


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Lille

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7747/lilleeuralilleroserjpg.jpghttp://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7937/lillegrandplacejpg.jpghttp://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6094/10281lillemetrosystemwe.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9941/lille1024x768jpg.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9798/lillemetroonviaductparm.jpghttp://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1492/lille2jpg.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/172/lillelogvieuxlillenejpg.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9962/lillebraderie200310jpg.jpghttp://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6392/lille18926operajpg.jpg

"Grand Stade" (50,283 + retractable roof + mobile pitch: new)

Project (u/c):
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Lens

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Stade Félix-Bollaert (44K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Proposal:
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Bordeaux

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"Grand Stade" (43/44K: new)



No proposal yet !


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Toulouse

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Stadium Municipal (40/43K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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They will extend the second ring all around the stadium and change all the seats.


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St-Etienne

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Stade Geoffroy-Guichard (42K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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No proposal yet, but they are going to close the corners (with stands & suites) and remove the current roofs in order to add a new one over the whole "new" stadium.


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Nice

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"Grand Stade" (35/38K: new)



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Strasbourg

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Stade de la Meinau (36K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Vision:
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Nancy (Nancy's region is the homeland of Michel Platini :yes:)

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Stade Marcel-Picot (35K + retractable roof: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Project (approved):
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More info about stadia on the FRANCE - Stadium and Arena Development News (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=571027) thread.

Thank you for your presentation. France is strong but with a small political help (100Meuros) than turkey.

I'm french but I hope that Turkey will hosts the tournament. It's a country With good infrastructure and not only in Istambul, like Kayseri stadium and tramway.

Turkey doesn't have infrastructure comparable to France or Italy. Don't kid yourselves. Plus, there are always bombings, mainly in its seaside cities. I personally wouldn't feel very safe there, especially for such a large event such as this.

Turkey doesn't have infrastructure comparable to France or Italy. Don't kid yourselves. Plus, there are always bombings, mainly in its seaside cities. I personally wouldn't feel very safe there, especially for such a large event such as this.

So if a country or countries don't have infrastructure, why do they even bother to bid? For Euro 2012, Poland and Ukraine got the tournament to actually IMPROVE the infrastructure in both countries (Even though Poland is in the EU and is more rich than Ukraine), and they even beat Italy, Greece, Turkey and Croatia & Hungary. Even like in 2008, both Austria and Switzerland had to still improve their infrastructure even though both countries are rich. The Euro tournament is a great experience for the countries who get it, I mean Im even glad the infrastructure in Ukraine will be completely different in 2012, and this will actually help Ukraine to get into the EU. I mean I don't even mind Turkey hosting the tournament in 2016, its just they have to do a lot of work, just like Poland and Ukraine.

You're completely right about that...but the bombings are still an issue. Can that be fixed in time?

Turkish Highspeed Trainlines

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You're completely right about that...but the bombings are still an issue. Can that be fixed in time?

Spain - E.T.A. & Madrid 2004
Great Britain - London 2005
France - Banlieues --> Social situation in the French suburbs
Greece - Revolutionary Organization 17 November
Italy - Mafia

etc. etc. etc.


OH MY GOD!!! These countries are too unsafe for such sport-events!!! :nuts:

Terrorism is everywhere possible!!! :bash:

Hope Italy will get Euro and get those stadiums going!

IMO Franchi from Florenza should be 100% to get rid of those stands in the back of the goals so far from the pitch!
Another problem is that a lot of stadium are built with tracks just like Delle Alpi was and for no good reason! I mean OK, Keep Olimpico, but the rest?
And BTW Sercan, what is the minimum nr. of stadiums and what capacity for each one ( ex. 2 50.000, 3 40.000 and 4 30.000 ).

UEFA said 9 stadiums woukd be perfect
2 stadiums with 50,000 seats*
3 stadiums with 40,000 seats
4 stadiums with 30,000 seats

* Final stadium should be 60,000+

UEFA said 9 stadiums woukd be perfect
2 stadiums with 50,000 seats*
3 stadiums with 40,000 seats
4 stadiums with 30,000 seats

* Final stadium should be 60,000+

that's not exactly what Italy is thinking...

i think the reserve stadiums will be VERONA,PARMA and CESENA
so:

ROME: 70,000(final)
MILAN: 80,000
BARI: 50,000
FLORENCE: 45,000
TURIN: 41,000
NAPOLI: >40,000
UDINE: 40,000
PALERMO: 40,000
CAGLIARI: 33,000

where are the other 3 stadiums with 30,000 seats??

that's not exactly what Italy is thinking...

i think the reserve stadiums will be VERONA,PARMA and CESENA
so:

ROME: 70,000(final)
MILAN: 80,000
BARI: 50,000
FLORENCE: 45,000
TURIN: 41,000
NAPOLI: >40,000
UDINE: 40,000
PALERMO: 40,000
CAGLIARI: 33,000

where are the other 3 stadiums with 30,000 seats??

Hmm we're talking about requirements of the UEFA for bidding here Romano.
If a country has better capacities, it's good for him :) . It's only if he has smaller capacities that it is going to be an issue...but I think on that point the 3 bidding countries are more or less in a similar situation (maybe a very little bit smaller for Turkey, but nothing capable of forcing the decision): It's nothing like if Germany was bidding against Denmark...

You're completely right about that...but the bombings are still an issue. Can that be fixed in time?

wich bombings? It is not much than any country in the EU? If you mean the riots, you forgot the events in France last year and Greece. Such issues are everywhere and Turkey is safer as much as anyother country. Turkey host many tournement so far, evn CL final in 2005 and UEFA Cup final in 2009. European Basketball Championship, Volleyball Championship both in men and women and this year World Basketball Championship will be host in Turkey. Nothing risky happened so far and nothing will happen in this country wich is welcome millions of tourist every year.

I think you have some prejudices. I respect you to want the tournement. But the excuse you insst is not true.

Also about the ifrasuturcuture issue. Yes, France and Italy has much better infrasuturucture... But Italy had also better infrasuturucture against Pol/Ukr bid. Turkey has also much better infrasutructure than those countries and all new and some old EU members. And there are so much going on constructions all over of the country wich will be cmplated even before 2016. Metro and tram lines in all cities (all bidding cities has metro or tram lines too), Railway and HSR constructions (before the 20116 most of the lines will be complated). Highway and NEw straight passing projects (Izmit Gulf Biridge -wich will be huge and Bosphorus rail project). Turkey doesn't even need to built hotels and airports, because has some of the best airports in Europe already. A new Airport constructio is not even neccessary for any of those bidding cities (maybe Kayseri and Konya might renew their domestic lines terminals, if it is neccessary). Turkey already has wonderful hotels with huge capacity in every city.

You're completely right about that...but the bombings are still an issue. Can that be fixed in time?

You mean in Ukraine? there are no bombing issue's in Ukraine, but there are in Russia.

wich bombings? It is not much than any country in the EU? If you mean the riots, you forgot the events in France last year and Greece. Such issues are everywhere and Turkey is safer as much as anyother country. Turkey host many tournement so far, evn CL final in 2005 and UEFA Cup final in 2009. European Basketball Championship, Volleyball Championship both in men and women and this year World Basketball Championship will be host in Turkey. Nothing risky happened so far and nothing will happen in this country wich is welcome millions of tourist every year.

I think you have some prejudices. I respect you to want the tournement. But the excuse you insst is not true.

Yes I think all of this is mainly prejudices, but you can't ignore prejudices people can have if you want to win a vote: You have to insist on proving those prejudices are wrong, and convince the "electors" you deserve their votes by facts.
I'm French and I've been around Turkey recently and -from my point of view- there's not really much bigger safety issues there than western Europe, at least in the Western part of Turkey (but I think your bid will be almost exclusively in Western Turkey, right?). Main issue I noticed is the transports network (inter-city essentially) which could be better... Great in istanbul or if you wanna go from Istambul to Ankara but it's globally lacking motorways and high speed trains at the moment..

^^ you are right. I think your observation about Turkey is true and what you mention is the weak side of Turkey's bid...

But I don't think it will be a problem when we think about the current constructions and projects.

However I believe France will win. But it won't be because of the infrasutructure. It will happen because France wants this tournement and will persude the loby's of football industry wich needs a developed French league. And this is why I believe that Turkey can be the second option instead of Italy.

^^France has a good chance to win but i think Turkey will get this one.

Are these three candidates official ?

yes, those are offical bidders. they gave their bidding folders to UEFA and preparing presenation foldes now wich will be ready till the middle of the next month.

I am pleased that you all consider only France and Turkey as potential winners.
I hope that Italy will make you a nice surprise ;)

Italy already has two UEFA 5 star stadium, San Siro of Milan and Olimpico of Rome, another new stadium under construction, the Juventus arena in Turin, and other two approved, in Palermo and Cagliari.
We must also consider that the Italian league, Serie A, is the most important in Europe together with La Liga and the English Premier, far ahead than the french and turkish league, and the Italian national football team is the most successful in Europe...these are also factors that may influence the choice.
As infrastructure, Italy is in much better condition than Turkey, and on the same level of France.

You should never underestimate an opponent, Italy will be full of surprises ;)

You don't look the dossiers, because not won almost never the best dossier...otherwise Poland and Ukraine would not have never beaten Italy for Euro 2012. The choice is always political!
And I think that probably after Austria\Switzerland and Poland\Ukraine, UEFA will choose a major European country ... the battle finally will be between France and Italy. I'm sorry, but Turkey has few chances for euro 2016.

My choice would be Turkey since they never hosted anything but UEFA will probably go for Italy or France. Italy needs it most since their current stadium structure is pretty shocking so I suppose they will win it (they have been waiting way longer than the French to host it again as well).

. Italy needs it most since their current stadium structure is pretty shocking so I suppose they will win it (they have been waiting way longer than the French to host it again as well).

That's not really true. France hosted it in 84. Italy in 80. Don't think that can make a difference...:)

if the subject is waiting for the torunement for a long time, Turkey must get it ;)

If Turkey won't get it, Kuvvaci and Serkan will hurt themselves!! ;__;

If Turkey wins than all ouzu bottles will broke ;)

Italy already has two UEFA 5 star stadium, San Siro of Milan and Olimpico
You should never underestimate an opponent, Italy will be full of surprises

And Turkey already has three UEFA 5 Star Stadiums : Türk Telekom Arena,Atatürk Olympic Stadium and Fenerbahce Sükrü Saracoglu.And two other 5 Star stadiums will come !!

If Turkey won't get it, Kuvvaci and Serkan will hurt themselves!! ;__;

I don't think I'll hurt myself. I already think France will win...

But it is important to have a good representation for Turkey, and even the candidature process caused many new stadium projects to start. EURO candidacy already created an energy in Turkey.

And if we lose 2016 , that means we will host 2020 for sure.

Who is Serkan :D

Like Kuvvaci i believe that Turkey won't get it.
But 2020 could be "ours" :D

And Turkey already has three UEFA 5 Star Stadiums : Türk Telekom Arena,Atatürk Olympic Stadium and Fenerbahce Sükrü Saracoglu.And two other 5 Star stadiums will come !!

Yes...but the stadiums are only a part of the dossier to be handed to UEFA.

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It's not true. Because the new stadium trend began with Kayseri. All Turkey's cities want to modern soccer stadiums. Tournament is not the only condition for new stadiums. And we have a strong plan to fulfill this idea.

I think Napo meant that Stadiums count only for a "small" percentage in the UEFA evaluation of the bids which will begin in march if I'm right...The others being for example the transports infrastructures, hotel capacities of the cities etc... I remember reading an article in the French press about the percentage accorded to each parts of the bids but I can't remember what the numbers were...sorry! :)

^^ began with Kayseri but didn't continue. Bidding for EURO will help the ideas come true. I don't think after the announcment of the prjects, any of these stadiums will be cancelled no matter if Turkey wins or loses.

I think Napo meant that Stadiums count only for a "small" percentage in the UEFA evaluation of the bids which will begin in march if I'm right...The others being for example the transports infrastructures, hotel capacities of the cities etc... I remember reading an article in the French press about the percentage accorded to each parts of the bids but I can't remember what the numbers were...sorry! :)

You must be right? How could Italy lose against POL/UKR then?

@parcdesprinces :great presentation!!! :) France has the better equilibrium

You must be right? How could Italy lose against POL/UKR then?

Well, It's like for the Olympics: they have a commitee who analyzes the bids, mark them, compare them, but at the end it's a vote... :)

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I think France, less fortunate. Because racism is growing in French football.

Humm, I don't think it is especially worse in France than anywhere else...and Italy is not really an exemple for that...Racism in stadiums are a quite a global problem unfortunately...

Also during a 2010 World Cup qualifier against Ireland, Henry used his hand to control the ball before setting up the winning goal. These are too distasteful.

Come on, someday people will have to stop using that story for everything...Honestly, at first, I was like everyone, not very proud of the way France qualified, but when I saw that Ireland finally even dared to ask the FIFA to be invited as a 33rd team for the WC (!!), I started thinking that the lack of fair play wasn't maybe only on the French side after all...There are referee mistakes every day...
You can't seriously think this will influence the vote?! Can you really imagine a UEFA executive saying "oh come on, I can't attribute the organisation to France, one of their players made a hand control intentionnaly one day..." :nuts: In that case you could also point out Materazzi's alleged insults to Zidane, or the problems during a Turkey-Switzerland game a few years ago! but that would be ridiculous...

^^ I agree with you... All those things are anything in football.

italy+france < turkey ..very nice turkey is vinner:lol:

italy+france < turkey ..very nice turkey is vinner:lol:

Are you sure... You seem as arrogant as a French :) !!

But, if you really want to play that game..........I can be an arrogant Frenchman and I can say:

History, architecture (numerous "little Paris" all around the world, even in countries which have never been French colonies), overseas departments and territories (worldwide France :yes:), an exceptional geographical location (3 seas, Alps/Pyrénnées & magnificent countrysides, cities & villages), world's 5th economy , 3rd or 4th military power (beware :devil:), 3rd or 4th political/diplomatic power, one of the greatest cultural power, the "motor" (with Germany) of the EU & the first tourist destination on the planet...etc etc :D

Welcome to France :cheers: (with its diversity)


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-TGV Atlantique
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-Thalys (France-Belgium-Netherlands-Germany)
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Most of candidate cities have an international airport and France has a good highway network.



Cities & Stadiums : (9+3)

1 Paris/St-Denis (Stade de France) 81,338 (renovation)
2 Marseille 65/70,000 (extension)
3 Lyon (Ol Land) 61,556 (new)
4 Paris (Parc des Princes) 50/53,000 + retractable roof ? (extension)
5 Lille 50,283 + Retractable Roof & Movable Pitch (new)
6 Lens 44.000 (extension)
7 Bordeaux 43,500 (new)
8 Toulouse 40/43,000 (extension)
9 St Etienne 42,000 (extension)
10 Strasbourg 36,000 (extension)
11 Nice 35/38,000 (new)
12 Nancy 35,000 + Retractable Roof (extension)


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Paris (St-Denis) (The very first gothic monument in the world)

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Stade de France (81,338: renovation)

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Marseille (The large commercial port on the Med. sea)

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Stade Vélodrome (65/75k: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Vision:
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Lyon (The homeTown of Cinema... & also of the French Gastronomy)
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"OL Land" (61,556: new)

Project (approved):
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Paris (Well....It's Paris !!!!)

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Parc des Princes (50/53K + retractable roof ?: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Proposal:
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Lille (Welcome to Flanders..:D. Lille has a great location: "Carrefour de l'Europe")

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"Grand Stade" (50,283 + retractable roof + mobile pitch: new)

Project (u/c):
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Lens (the former mining town)

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Stade Félix-Bollaert (44K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Proposal:
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Bordeaux ("La Belle Endormie".. Known for its wines and its monuments...)

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"Grand Stade" (43/44K: new)



No proposal yet !


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Toulouse (HomeTown of Airbus, the home base of the European aerospace industry (including Concorde :cry:))

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Stadium Municipal (40/43K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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They will extend the second ring all around the stadium and change all the seats.


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St-Etienne (another former mining town, but which has a very old history)

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Stade Geoffroy-Guichard (42K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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No proposal yet, but they are going to close the corners (with stands & suites) and remove the current roofs in order to add a new one over the whole "new" stadium.


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Nice (Welcome to Italy :D. City of Nice is also: Côte d'Azur (Cannes, St Tropez, Monaco..etc), La Baie des Anges, The French "California"....)
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"Grand Stade" (35/38K: new)



No render yet ! (approved)


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Strasbourg (Welcome to Germany...:D. Strasbourg is known as the European capital: EU Parliament, Council of Europe, European Court of Human Rights... etc)

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Stade de la Meinau (36K: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Vision:
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Nancy (Nancy's region is the homeland of Michel Platini :yes:, AND is the Capital of Lorraine)

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Stade Marcel-Picot (35K + retractable roof: refurbishment & extension)

Current stadium:
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Project (approved):
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More info about stadia on the FRANCE - Stadium and Arena Development News (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=571027) thread.

^^ parcdeprices, I think he was having fun, not being arrogant. Wonderful pesantation, thank you, but we already saw this presentation a few tmes at the former pages. No need to tire yourself for a joke.

Don't worry, I've understood very well what he meant.

So I answered (half humor/half :mad:)... and, indeed, I repost my "presentation", but with some changes... :)

okay, you are right.

According to a guy from TFF


Ankara: 50,000+
Antalya and Izmir: 40,000+
Konya and Eskisehir: 30,000+

Rest i u/c or already buit.

40k is too big for Antalya. And 30k is too smal for Bursa :D

According to a guy from TFF


Ankara: 50,000+
Antalya and Izmir: 40,000+
Konya and Eskisehir: 30,000+

Rest i u/c or already buit.

40k is too big for Antalya. And 30k is too smal for Bursa :D



So then we have following stadiums:


ISTANBUL

Olympic Stadium (~90.000? after extension and renovation) --> maybe the biggest stadium at the EURO ever?!

Galatasaray Stadium (52.500)


ANKARA

New Stadium (50.000+)


IZMIR

New Stadium (44.000+)


ANTALYA

New Stadium (40.000+)


BURSA

New Stadium (30.000+, but probably 40.000+)


KAYSERI

Kadir Has Stadium (32.000)


KONYA

New Stadium (33.000+)


ESKISEHIR

New Stadium (30.000+)



TOTAL: ~407.000+


in comparison with:

2004: ~377.000 (10 stadiums)
2008: ~283.000 (8 stadiums)
2012: ~383.000 (8 stadiums)

So then we have following stadiums:


ISTANBUL

Olympic Stadium (~90.000? after extension and renovation) --> maybe the biggest stadium at the EURO ever?!

Galatasaray Stadium (52.500)


ANKARA

New Stadium (50.000+)


IZMIR

New Stadium (44.000+)


ANTALYA

New Stadium (40.000+)


BURSA

New Stadium (30.000+, but probably 40.000+)


KAYSERI

Kadir Has Stadium (32.000)


KONYA

New Stadium (33.000+)


ESKISEHIR

New Stadium (30.000+)



TOTAL: ~407.000+


in comparison with:

2004: ~377.000 (10 stadiums)
2008: ~283.000 (8 stadiums)
2012: ~383.000 (8 stadiums)


only 9 stadiums?? hmm...:ohno:

According to a guy from TFF


Ankara: 50,000+
Antalya and Izmir: 40,000+
Konya and Eskisehir: 30,000+

Rest i u/c or already buit.

40k is too big for Antalya. And 30k is too smal for Bursa :D

wich guy is he?

and what does Rest i u/c or already buit. mean?

only 9 stadiums?? hmm...:ohno:

all countries will have 9 stadiums for tournement. extra 3 are just reserves...

all countries will have 9 stadiums for tournement. extra 3 are just reserves...

yes, I know that, but i was wondering what is the strong point of turkey if it has 3 stadiums less than italy and france and an infrastructure situation not very brilliant!! and then, on wikipedia I read that the backup stadiums were Adana, Trabzon and Sanliurfa, what did it happen to these cities??

wich guy is he?

and what does mean?


Orhan Gorbon attorneyship of the genel secretary of the TFF

Turkey has by far better infrastructure than Poland/Ukraine. 4 cities are connected to the highspeed network and all cities have large, modern airports. Beside this Turkish Airlines has the highest number of destinations just after Lufthansa in Europe. Istanbul is among top 5 most visited cities of the world and the west coast between Antalya and Izmir is receiving 30 million Tourist in a year, making Turkey the 7th most visited country in the world. All cities have railway system... I don't know what's missing to call it "not very brilliant"

Turkey has by far better infrastructure than Poland/Ukraine. 4 cities are connected to the highspeed network and all cities have large, modern airports. Beside this Turkish Airlines has the highest number of destinations just after Lufthansa in Europe. Istanbul is among top 5 most visited cities of the world and the west coast between Antalya and Izmir is receiving 30 million Tourist in a year, making Turkey the 7th most visited country in the world. All cities have railway system... I don't know what's missing to call it "not very brilliant"

well, i think it needs reserve stadiums and more infrastructures, even if it's better than POL/UKR! I think that all 3 the bids are very strong (maybe Italy a little bit less) but you cannot just base it on how beautiful a country is! (that's why italy lost the 2012 bid)!

TOTAL: ~407.000+


in comparison with:

2004: ~377.000 (10 stadiums)
2008: ~283.000 (8 stadiums)
2012: ~383.000 (8 stadiums)

You cant compare the total capacity of the stadiums with the earlier Euros. This one will be the first to have 24 teams instead of 16 thus creating more needs for more seating. For Euro 2012, not all stadiums are finished so we dont even have to final capacity yet. Same applies for Turkey.

Who talked about being beautiful? These stats I gave show that Turkey is able to handle huge masses of tourists.

Thast true.
We do not have official projects for the Reserve stadiums

There are just some news about Trabzon getting a new 40k football stadium and Adana a new 30-35k football stadium

Are you sure... You seem as arrogant as a French :) !!

But, if you really want to play that game..........I can be an arrogant Frenchman and I can say:

History, architecture (numerous "little Paris" all around the world, even in countries which have never been French colonies), overseas departments and territories (worldwide France :yes:), an exceptional geographical location (3 seas, Alps/Pyrénnées & magnificent countrysides, cities & villages), world's 5th economy , 3rd or 4th military power (beware :devil:), 3rd or 4th political/diplomatic power, one of the greatest cultural power, the "motor" (with Germany) of the EU & the first tourist destination on the planet...etc etc :D

Welcome to France :cheers: (with its diversity)




Then is true, french people greatly overestimate their country :lol:

please...

Then is true, french people greatly overestimate their country :lol:

please...

Yes we do! :lol: (but we are aware of it...)

Orhan Gorbon attorneyship of the genel secretary of the TFF

what do you mean by saying "Rest i u/c or already buit."?

Also don't trust the personalities tell. They are just supeclation unless thre is no offical announcment.

Thast true.
We do not have official projects for the Reserve stadiums

There are just some news about Trabzon getting a new 40k football stadium and Adana a new 30-35k football stadium

Sercan, we don't have offical projects for main stadiums yet... Of course so noormal that we don't have offical projects for Reserve stadiums.

You and all people forget that Turkey didn't announce the projects yet. They just give a pre-information and you accept those infos as project. No, projects are not announced yet.

Also, beside the Trabzon and Adana, Şanlıurfa stadium is already done (30 k stadium) this is why this city is shown for reserve.

Yes we do! :lol: (but we are aware of it...)

Indeed !! :bowtie:.......:lol:

what do you mean by saying "Rest i u/c or already buit."?

Also don't trust the personalities tell. They are just supeclation unless thre is no offical announcment.

rest of the stadiums of the turkish bid is u/c (TTA) or already built (Olimpiyat and Kadir Has)

Sercan, we don't have offical projects for main stadiums yet... Of course so noormal that we don't have offical projects for Reserve stadiums.

You and all people forget that Turkey didn't announce the projects yet. They just give a pre-information and you accept those infos as project. No, projects are not announced yet.

Also, beside the Trabzon and Adana, Şanlıurfa stadium is already done (30 k stadium) this is why this city is shown for reserve.

i don't think that they will publish real project next months.
I do not want to believe that the TFF gave all projects to just one office

^^ this is another issue, but what I meant is we don't have even offical main stadiums projects that have been announced. Of course there is no reserve stadium project yet.

hey guys!!

it's a long time that someone doesn't write on this post..

yesterday I read a post on an Italian newspaper that said that Turkey has problems with its bid and it might retire...can the turkish members confirm???

nothing similar heard here...

no, there is nothing like this. Turkish bid is going on...

ok, thank you!!

so it was only a stupid italian journalist! (as you know we've got lots of them here:colgate:)

French Football Chief Plays Down Euro 2016 Chances

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French Football Federation (FFF) director general Jacques Lambert says his country are outsiders in the race to host the 2016 European Championships.

Speaking before a presentation of the bid team’s communications strategy in Paris on Wednesday, Lambert played down claims that France was leading Turkey and Italy in the race to host the 2016 finals. France are bidding to host the tournament for the first time since 1984.

Having seen his country unexpectedly pipped at the post by London in the race to host the 2012 Olympics in July 2005, Lambert also urged caution to assembled journalists.

“It is a form of danger to be in the position of favorite,” he warned. “Remember Paris 2012? The country was in that position and we know what happened.”

Lambert highlighted Turkey as France’s “number one competitor” saying that its bid was “extremely strong.”

“Turkey was a candidate on two previous occasions. It has a benefit of priority that we cannot remove. The Turkish Federation will release a bid of very high quality.”

He said that Italy, so stung when it was overlooked in favor of Poland-Ukraine for the 2012, should not be discounted either.

“Somehow we are the smallest,” Lambert said

Twelve French cities have been pre-selected to host matches: Bordeaux, Lens, Lille, Lyon, Marseille, Nancy, Nice, Paris Saint-Denis, Saint-Etienne, Strasbourg and Toulouse.

UEFA’s bidding rules insist that France must decide which nine of these cities will host matches, with three in reserve, before submitting its bid documents next month.

"We're on schedule," said Lambert. "We respect the roadmap set. We have completed drafting the application. This is the version to be submitted to UEFA."

Applications for the finals must be received by UEFA by February 15. UEFA will announce the tournament hosts on May 28.
http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=32909

they talk on what we talk about... Very interesting...

Also, beside the Trabzon and Adana, Şanlıurfa stadium is already done (30 k stadium) this is why this city is shown for reserve.


Trabzon has the Akyazi project.They are still trying to solve the financing of the stadium.

they talk on what we talk about... Very interesting...

Sure, but I think the French FA has just begun its lobbying... :D :

"Oh, please, vote for us, pleeaase, we are so small/weak in front of the so strong other bids...etc..etc".......

Indeed, the 2012 Olympic bid is in all minds..... :nuts:

Sure, but I think the French FA has just begun its lobbying... :D :

"Oh, please, vote for us, pleeaase, we are so small/weak in front of the so strong other bids...etc..etc".......

Indeed, the 2012 Olympic bid is in all minds..... :nuts:

I told you, France will win... But of course with lobby..

^^Still cant be sure about that. Its not fair that France can host it 3 times while other countries cant even get one bid chosen. I think UEFA might choose Turkey because of theire idea to bring football to Eastern Europe :/

^^Still cant be sure about that. Its not fair that France can host it 3 times while other countries cant even get one bid chosen. I think UEFA might choose Turkey because of theire idea to bring football to Eastern Europe :/

You mean Asia. Aren't you from Eastern Europe? :P

You mean Asia. Aren't you from Eastern Europe? :P

Yes :)

Yes :)Must be Eastern Poland then. Im from Central Europe.

^^Still cant be sure about that. Its not fair that France can host it 3 times while other countries cant even get one bid chosen. I think UEFA might choose Turkey because of theire idea to bring football to Eastern Europe :/

I thought you brought football in eastern europe with POL/UKR 2012!!

Bring it in South- Eastern Europe... :D

it's better to bring them in south europe!! :lol:

TFF made a research to see if the inhabitants want the EURO 2016..

In Kayseri 97,5% of the people want the EURO 2016 in Turkey.
Izmir: 93%
Istanbul: 91,3%
Eskisehir: 89,7%
Antalya: 84,9%
Ankara: 83,5%
Konya: 80,8%
Bursa: 70,6%

Whole Turkey average is 87,1%


Konya has got the highest% against the EURO (8,6%).
Highest undecided is Bursa (19,8%)

may I ask wich stupid doesn't want such an organization and why?

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I agree with you, Kuvvaci - who the hell wouldn't say 'yes' to this?!

Personally I still hope Italy get this - they were close in the bidding process for 2012, and as far as I can remember, won the first stage by a landslide. Italy needs a tournament to rejuvenate its infrastructure and stadia.

may I ask wich stupid doesn't want such an organization and why?

Just look at AUT & SUI :D

may I ask wich stupid doesn't want such an organization and why?

I'm italian, and I can tell you that in italy many people don't want euro 2016: the italians are the most sceptic people in the world: this is because some things in italy work badly (corruption,mafia, ecc...) and so every time you propose something like world cup or olympic games they say "this is only an aim for speculation, ecc..." and they start saying a lot of excuses and stupid things. This is happening for euro 2016, rome's bid for 2020 olympic's and for rome's gp. Obviously not all italians are like this, but unfortunatly many of them are

The thing about the italian bid is that is centred around public money. We had hoped that this time around we could have new private venues (i.e. the new juventus stadium).

stadiums in Turkey will be private sector or municipality private sector cooperation, like already built Kayseri or u/c TTA in Istanbul

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The thing about the italian bid is that is centred around public money. We had hoped that this time around we could have new private venues (i.e. the new juventus stadium).

yea. that's the problem

does the state in Italy guarantee the construction costs of the stadium ?

does the state in Italy guarantee the construction costs of the stadium ?

we hope so. the real problem is that the italian goverment gives very little money to the municipalities, and so they haven't got money to keep the stadiums in good conditions. The only way for getting out of this is doing like all europe does, giving the stadiums to private companies. Here we had a lot of projects, but it's all a way to speculate: in fact all the mucicipalities are disapproving the projects, and the only one that has been approved is the Turin one. The good thing that the Italian state is doing is that it's trying to pass a law to semplify costruction of new stadiums and to put a limit to speculation. We hope to get it throught the parliament by May, before the decision of the host nation. But the real problem it's that if the stadiums will continue to be property of municipalities in 20 years time we'll have the same situation that we've got now. And who's going to give us another european echampionship??

I think Turkey will win this time.France and Italy had it already two times and Turkey is bidding for the third time in a row (2008,2012,2016)

And this time Turkey´s bid is very strong.

when will France and Italy give the offical bid folder to UEFA?

I think Feb 15th is the date for all candidates. Less than two weeks, I can't wait :D

My vote goes to Turkey...And i don't care about infrastructure or stadiums. Cause every country (even if it's poor) can build 2,3 or 4 stadiums and build some roads (look at Ukraine)...I voted on Turkey because of their fans and fantastic atmosphere during league matches...

My vote goes to Turkey...And i don't care about infrastructure or stadiums. Cause every country (even if it's poor) can build 2,3 or 4 stadiums and build some roads (look at Ukraine)...I voted on Turkey because of their fans and fantastic atmosphere during league matches...

are you sure that after that stupid choice of poland/ukraine UEFA will take the risk again???

^^ UEFA can't take a risk but Turkey is not a risk... ;)

^^ UEFA can't take a risk but Turkey is not a risk... ;)

Are you sure? What about the hooligan problem in Turkey? Will foreign supporters be safe in Turkey in 2016 because it is 2010 and they aren't safe at the moment.

^^ I am sure.. first of all the subject was the building the stadiums and infrasutructure. This is why I am sure..

hooligans. It is not more than another country. With only one example wich happened years ago you can't judge Turkey.

Are you sure? What about the hooligan problem in Turkey? Will foreign supporters be safe in Turkey in 2016 because it is 2010 and they aren't safe at the moment.

what about hoolingans in france and italy ?

Also if subject was hooligans, UEFA wouldn't have gaien UEFA Cup final or CL final to Turkey. That shows UEFa has not such concern.

what about hoolingans in france and italy ?hooligans in france? LOLOLOL...where? and hooligans are not a reason, since poland have probably the worst, the most brutal and violent hooligans in europe... it's all about atmosphere, that's why poland or turkey are much better places for such an events than france for example. i'm pretty sure about it!

hooligans in france? LOLOLOL...where? and hooligans are not a reason, since poland have probably the worst, the most brutal and violent hooligans in europe... it's all about atmosphere, that's why poland or turkey are much better places for such an events than france for example. i'm pretty sure about it!

what about racism in france ?

what is its relation with EURO 2016, footbal , UEFA?

Cause every country (even if it's poor) can build 2,3 or 4 stadiums and build some roads (look at Ukraine).

Easy to say when European Union pays a large part of the bill ;) !!!

hooligans in france? LOLOLOL...where?

humm... Sadly, France has many violent groups of ultras/hooligans.... Especially in Paris/PSG :ohno: !

PSG Ultras in Marseille :
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PSG hooligans vs Chelsea hooligans:
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PSG vs Utrecht hooligans in Sedan (northern France) :
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PSG vs Lyon:
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PSG vs Nice:
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Nancy vs Le Havre:
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Bastia Ultras (Corsica):
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PSG Ultras in Manchester:
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from wiki:

Football hooliganism in France is rooted in social conflict and racism. In the 1990s, fans of Paris St. Germain (PSG) fought with supporters from Belgium, England, Germany, Italy and Scotland. There is a long standing north/south rivalry between the PSG (Paris - North) and OM (Marseille - South) which has encouraged authorities to be extremely mobilized during games between the two teams. Violent fights and post-game riots including car burning, and store windows smashing have been a regular fixture of PSG-OM games.

The Kop of Boulogne (KOB) is an area in the Parc des Princes which houses supporters groups associated with the French football club Paris Saint-Germain (PSG). It is known as the "most notorious stand in French football" due to its links with violence and far-right political groups and is a symbol for football hooliganism and political extremism within French culture.

^^ but hooliganism won't be any issue. Actually organizations like EURO or WC are good opportunities to fight against hooliganizm in such countries.

I think criteria will be different for UEFA.

I believe all those 3 candiates are properly able to host EURO 2016. It is important wich one will persuade UEFA; that's the point. And I believe France has stronger loby now. And conditions are important. I believe conditions are good for France.

otherwise all 3 candidates can organize the tournement properly, issue is not building the stadiums, or infrasuturcture.

Actually there are hooligan firms in Turkey.

Its mostly just some "problems" between the ultra groups and the police and sometimes some riots at derbies.
But there are nor planned fights between hools or there are no people who just go to the stadium to fight.

I said, hooliganism in Turkey is not more or less than another European country.

Loby and persuading UEFA will take an important role for hosting EURO 2016.

Easy to say when European Union pays a large part of the bill ;) !!! Ukraine isn't a EU member. And about those hooligans in France...For example in Poland every single club have a hooligans group (Ekstraklasa/1-liga)...And in Turkey it's more about safety than about hools. For many euro Turkey is a question mark. Nobody knows what to expect from turkish people (in negative sense). But of course in many cases it's more about stereotype and/or ignorance about the country.

when will France and Italy give the offical bid folder to UEFA?

on feb 15 like turkey

Ukraine isn't a EU member.
Yeah, I'm aware !

And maybe you should learn about what is "the economic integration" !

EU Member or not, the EU (the western part of the EU actually) and the Council of Europe (the same western part) gave and still give many financial helps to the whole eastern Europe. It's gradual but even the non EU members are helped !
It happened exactly the same during the 80's and 90's for Spain, Greece, Ireland & Portugal (even before they became members of course) !


For example in Poland every single club have a hooligans group (Ekstraklasa/1-liga)

That's not something you should be proud of :ohno: !

It's not a "contest" but, again, sadly, many French clubs (even in lower leagues) have Ultra groups ! OK, fortunately maybe not as violent as Polish or Serbian ones anymore, but during the late 80's/early 90's... it was another story !
Most of European countries have or had hooliganism you know... Especially (for the western part of the continent) UK, the Netherlands, Germany, France and Italy !

I remember very well, for example, the riots during France '98 WC, with some Brit and German hooligans (a French cop was almost killed by a violent german group of hools) !
More, I remember also some troubles in the late 80's during Five Nations Championship in the Parc de Princes area in Paris (which is surprising from Rugby fans).... etc etc

Since all that troubles, many restrictive security measures have been voted (at least in some countries such as UK) and there is now a large transborder cooperation. In France for example there is, since recently, a special police unit against hooliganism which move (and is allowed to) all around Europe for tracking French hooligans !



About safety, I must admit that I would feel much more safe in the "touristic Turkey" than in some parts of Ukraine for example !

In my opinion the French will not get the Euro 2016. There are several reasons behind my reasoning. First of all, France is never going to build world class stadiums. France had the opportunity to do so for the Euro in 1984 and the World cup in 98 and they have not done so ( except for the spectacular stade de France ). They either have refurbished old stadiums such as Parc lescure, Geoffroy Guichard, Le velodrome, Gerland and the stadium in Toulouse or rebuild stadiums that were inadequate such as la Meinau.
It appears to be the same again for the Euro bid ( refurbish the Parc, the Stadium, Velodrome again , Lens , St Etienne ) . Quite boring indeed. What about the new projects, all arlesiennes like they say in French. How long is it going to take for OL to get their stadium ( do they wait until the get relegated to L2 ), same thing in Lille ( Where is the stadium ? ). What about Nice , who is going to finance a 45,000 seats stadium for a team that might go down to ligue 2, same for La Meinau ( RCS is at the bottom of L2 ). Too much bureaucracy and red tape in France. A lot project but nothing really concrete ( Arena 92, Stade Francais and Jean Bouin ).

Secondly, Football has never been fully supported in France and I have the feeling that within few years the Rugby top 14 will take over as the most popular league in France.

Yeah, I'm aware !

And maybe you should learn about what is "the economic integration" !

EU Member or not, the EU (the western part of the EU actually) and the Council of Europe (the same western part) gave and still give many financial helps to the whole eastern Europe. It's gradual but even the non EU members are helped !
It happened exactly the same during the 80's and 90's for Spain, Greece, Ireland & Portugal (even before they became members of course) !We're talking about infrastructure and stadiums, and I doubt the EU helps Ukraine by giving them money for example...


That's not something you should be proud of :ohno: !Who is talking about proud?

It's not a "contest" but, again, sadly, many French clubs (even in lower leagues) have Ultra groups ! OK, fortunately maybe not as violent as Polish or Serbian ones anymore, but during the late 80's/early 90's... it was another story !
Most of European countries have or had hooliganism you know... Especially (for the western part of the continent) UK, the Netherlands, Germany, France and Italy !hools and ultras are two diff. things, you know...And I think you don't even know what is/was going on in Poland, Russia etc...that's why when you mentioned about hools in France I loled...

I remember very well, for example, the riots during France '98 WC, with some Brit and German hooligans (a French cop was almost killed by a violent german group of hools) !
More, I remember also some troubles in the late 80's during Five Nations Championship in the Parc de Princes area in Paris (which is surprising from Rugby fans).... etc etcAnd? What's your point? Things like that happend everywhere, even in Macedonia, but you won't mention about macedonin hools cause that's would be hilarious, you know what i mean?


About safety, I must admit that I would feel much more safe in the "touristic Turkey" than in some parts of Ukraine for example !I have never been to Ukraine (you probably too) so how the hell you might know anything about safety in Ukraine?...It's called stereotypes! And it doesn't matter if there're any prerequisites to feel more safe in Turkey than in Ukraine... But I must admit that i feel exactly the same :)

In my opinion the French will not get the Euro 2016. There are several reasons behind my reasoning. First of all, France is never going to build world class stadiums. France had the opportunity to do so for the Euro in 1984 and the World cup in 98 and they have not done so ( except for the spectacular stade de France ). They either have refurbished old stadiums such as Parc lescure, Geoffroy Guichard, Le velodrome, Gerland and the stadium in Toulouse or rebuild stadiums that were inadequate such as la Meinau.
It appears to be the same again for the Euro bid ( refurbish the Parc, the Stadium, Velodrome again , Lens , St Etienne ) . Quite boring indeed. What about the new projects, all arlesiennes like they say in French. How long is it going to take for OL to get their stadium ( do they wait until the get relegated to L2 ), same thing in Lille ( Where is the stadium ? ). What about Nice , who is going to finance a 45,000 seats stadium for a team that might go down to ligue 2, same for La Meinau ( RCS is at the bottom of L2 ). Too much bureaucracy and red tape in France. A lot project but nothing really concrete ( Arena 92, Stade Francais and Jean Bouin ).

Secondly, Football has never been fully supported in France and I have the feeling that within few years the Rugby top 14 will take over as the most popular league in France.

interesting point of viiew. I don't know that situations, and I really respect both ıtaly and France, but I believe it is time for unexerinced country who will have completely new stadiums.

and I doubt the EU helps Ukraine by giving them money for example

For stadiums certainly not, but for infrastructures and various upgrades: yes !

Since 1991, EU gave 2,5 billion Euros to Ukraine !

Source: European Commission.

Who is talking about proud?

Well, apparently the lack of violence of French hools makes you laugh...so ??

And? What's your point?

Here is my point ;) :
Things like that happend everywhere

And not only in Poland !

I have never been to Ukraine (you probably too)

You could be surprised !
And anyway, because I don't know the whole Ukraine and because I was there a long time ago, I wrote: "I would feel......in some parts of Ukraine..." Which is of course very personal and subjective !

Secondly, Football has never been fully supported in France and I have the feeling that within few years the Rugby top 14 will take over as the most popular league in France.

For this, I totally agree !
If Top 14 becomes more popular than L1, then I'll be glad :banana: !

About refurbishments, this time I think they will be done properly especially due to UEFA recommendations which are very high, whether we host Euro or not !
Most of French stadiums are old indeed but they are and have been upgraded frequently (10 stadiums hosted the Rugby World cup 2 years ago) , they simply need more hospitality areas, more suites etc. And due to UEFA regulations, they also need wider seats. Some projects are quite impressive and from the top of the government, things have changed (new law for helping new stadium projects etc) !


A short recap:

-Stade de France doesn't need any upgrade but apparently they will spend €100M for renovate it !

-Toulouse needs some minor upgrades and is almost in conformity.

-Le Havre, Metz, Nancy, Lens, Marseille & Parc des Princes refurbishments are approved and till today there is no problem.

-The new stadium of Nice is also approved and will be payed by the municipality, it will be part of a larger project named "EcoVallée" !

-Stade Jean Bouin is approved and re-approved, but there are still some strong opposition groups.. (taxpayers, local politicians -Right wing- and the community of the district, one of the wealthiest of Paris). The Municipality of Paris -Socialist- wants this stadium (and will pay it: So do I ! :ohno:), the last round of this never ending story was won by them (municipality) but opponents have promised to attack the project again... to be continued....

-Arena 92 in Nanterre/LD is ready (financially) but there is indeed an issue with the owner of the land (Puteaux Municipality, who wants the same surface elsewhere). IMO it's not a big deal, they will certainly find an agreement because the supports of this projects (especially the minister of Sports) come from the same political party than Puteaux Municipality.... !

-Le Mans, Ajaccio & Dijon are u/c

-Valenciennes is also u/c but, indeed, for this one there are some troubles because the building permit was canceled by the administrative court due to opponents !

-Lille: works have started... finally !

-About Bordeaux, apparently the project is progressing very fast :?

The three black sheep/weakest links are St Etienne, Strasbourg & Lyon for different reasons !

-In Lyon, the project is ready and financed since many months but the owner of the land still doesn't want to sell (and he's within his rights !)

-Strasbourg and St Etienne are still hesitating (especially due to the cost of each project, payed by the municipalities with a small help of the Government)

I think for Stade de France, the renovation will cost 10M€, and not 100M€.

EDIT: My mistake! In fact, the Consortium Stade de France has to invest 100M€ from now to 2016 to renovate the stadium. The amount was confirmed to me this morning.

Only 3 months left for the final decision of the UEFA :cheers:

A country of French stature deserves a world class stadia infrastructure and I hope that the French authorities are going to go through with all projects being put in place. It should not matter if France gets the Euro in 2016, but all stadiums projects needs to come through. Of course being a former rugby player, I am particularly keen to see the top 14 and rugby become the N 1 sport in France. I have a lot of admiration for french rugby and their clubs.

A country of French stature deserves a world class stadia infrastructure and I hope that the French authorities are going to go through with all projects being put in place. It should not matter if France gets the Euro in 2016, but all stadiums projects needs to come through. Of course being a former rugby player, I am particularly keen to see the top 14 and rugby become the N 1 sport in France. I have a lot of admiration for french rugby and their clubs.

^^ I think in this point Italy needs more of France and Turkey euro 2016. This is because France had the opportunity to renove the stadiums with the 1998 WC, and because italian stadiums are much worse than the french ones: the only ones that are quite good are Milan,Rome and the new Juventus one. And don't forget that in Italy football is more famous and popular than in france!!

for turkey, situation is not better. We couldn't have any opportunity to upgrade the stadiums. Istanbul stadiums are good and new Kayseri stadium too. But rest of turkey, stadiums are worse than italy, though are are so many projects.

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for turkey, situation is not better. We couldn't have any opportunity to upgrade the stadiums. Istanbul stadiums are good and new Kayseri stadium too. But rest of turkey, stadiums are worse than italy, though are are so many projects.

yes, but italy needs to upgrade the stadiums more than turkey because its championship is on the level of english, german and spanish one, but the stadiums are on the level of zambia, zimbabwe and swaliland!! :lol::lol:

^^ not so bad, come on...

:D nooo we need it more, we didn't host it even once... Italy can host Olympics or a new World Cup.

itlian stadiums are still better than the turkish ones.

normal... they host EURO 1980 and World Cup 1990 and upgraded their stadiums. We didn't touch our stadiums since 1950's, 60's. Ankara's stadium is built in 1936 and just covered with a roof 15 years ago. Only modern stadium out of Istanbul is in Kayseri.

^^ I am sure.. first of all the subject was the building the stadiums and infrasutructure. This is why I am sure..

hooligans. It is not more than another country. With only one example wich happened years ago you can't judge Turkey.

I'm not judging Turkey on the cold-blooded murder of two Leeds fans in the streets of Istanbul.

Every time a Turkish team plays at home in the Champions league it is like a military operation just to get the away supporters to the stadium. It isn't safe for away fans and anyone who says different is in cloud cuckoo land.

What do you mean?

Istanbulian stadiums are inside the cities and you have no space. Therefore the away fans have got narrow corridors to get into the stadium.

I'm not judging Turkey on the cold-blooded murder of two Leeds fans in the streets of Istanbul.

Every time a Turkish team plays at home in the Champions league it is like a military operation just to get the away supporters to the stadium. It isn't safe for away fans and anyone who says different is in cloud cuckoo land.

If that's true then would you mind outlining a single example where away fans have been victim to any sort of hooliganism since then? Do you have anything that backs up your idea of a 'military operation'? What's 'unsafe' about fans travelling to Turkey?

As I seem to remember the few times Liverpool have played Galatasaray or Besiktas in the last 10 years, they have been problem-free. How about Manchester United-BJK last year? Problem free. How about every single Italian, French, German team that travels and plays matches in Turkey? Problem free.

I think you're the one in cloud cuckoo land buddy.

What do you mean?

Istanbulian stadiums are inside the cities and you have no space. Therefore the away fans have got narrow corridors to get into the stadium.

You have misunderstood me.

English fans visiting Turkish stadiums in the Champions league fly in, get bussed to the stadium and at the final whistle get bussed back to the airport under heavy police escort. When English fans visit other countries they might stay a couple of days and have a nice time sampling the restaurants and bars etc etc. This isn't possible in Istanbul. It isn't safe.

If that's true then would you mind outlining a single example where away fans have been victim to any sort of hooliganism since then? Do you have anything that backs up your idea of a 'military operation'? What's 'unsafe' about fans travelling to Turkey?

As I seem to remember the few times Liverpool have played Galatasaray or Besiktas in the last 10 years, they have been problem-free. How about Manchester United-BJK last year? Problem free. How about every single Italian, French, German team that travels and plays matches in Turkey? Problem free.

I think you're the one in cloud cuckoo land buddy.

^^
See above.

This is a picture of United fans at Besiktas. It looks ridiculous. It has to be that way to keep them safe.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/09/15/article-1213717-0672D2C5000005DC-137_468x297.jpg

The away section at Old Trafford. One metre high green netting and a couple of rows of stewards. No prison cell here.
http://www.gjmedia.co.uk/fans-ManU.jpg