3. Short distances between cities - reaction after euro2012.

According to the turkish TFF president the turkish bid has got the shortest distances between the cities

^^ and how long the journeys will take ?? :D

Longest distance is Eskisehir-Izmir= 412km. (I don't think that there will be a group with isatnbul and Antalya)
So Eskisehir-Izmir by plane takes 30min-45min?

All the fans won't take domestic air lines....;)

and what about Kayseri-Istanbul (760km, according google map)
Izmir-Istanbul (580km)
Antalya-Bursa (510km)
Konya-Istanbul (710km)
etc

:D

I admit that most of distances are shorter than in French bid, but (including future upgrades and projects), I would be curious to know how long would take these journeys (by train or by car)

As i said, i don't think that there will be a Istanbul-Antalya, Or Istanbul-Izmir group.

With Highspeed train i would guess its 1-2 hours?

from the bid book
As the overall event layout is concerned,
all the host cities proposed by TFF to
host UEFA EURO 2016 are located in the
western part of the country. İstanbul, the
proposed central stage to the tournament,
is the fifth largest city in the world and
Turkey’s foremost centre of tourism,
international and domestic, as the cultural
and financial centre of the country.
Two of the other host cities are also
exceptional centres of tourism, with their
location on Turkey’s splendid Aegean and
Mediterranean coasts. Five host cities in
the Anatolian heartland, one of them being
Turkey’s capital city Ankara, are home to
magnificent sources of history and faith
tourism.
Initially the TFF identified 12 cities
amongst several that were being
considered as potential host cities. Eight
cities with a total of nine stadiums were
selected, whereas 4 stadiums remain on
TFF’s short list as reserve stadiums.
The proposed host cities are in fairly
reasonable distances to each other.
The longest distance between any pair of
the host cities is 848 km, which is evidently
commendable in consideration of the
previous editions of UEFA EURO.
In addition, the whole region will witness
an extraordinary flow of investments in
infrastructure during the run up to the
tournament, which will boost expediency
of transportation between the proposed
host cities and shorten the travel times.
Prospering railway connections, including
planned fast train facilities, will enhance
convenience of fan movement across the
tournament cities.
Easy access to endless beaches of the
Aegean and Mediterranean coasts will
enable the visitors to take exquisite
breaks in holiday sites that appeal to all
walks of life and to travel back to match
venues in very short spans of time.
Especially Antalya, called “the pearl of
the Mediterranean”, will offer the fans
a combination of the beauty of sea and
mountains, with sunny resorts, well
maintained beaches, palm trees, exotic
plants, and luxury hotels and first class
entertainment facilities. Day trips will take
them to several historic landmarks and
natural wonders like the calcium terraces
of Pamukkale. The match schedule is also
prepared in consideration of the travel
times between the host cities and ease of
transportation.
A football fan seeking for an affordable
holiday will achieve two goals in one great
trip. A father enthusiastic about football
staying in an hotel in Antalya will take the
fast train to other host cities to support his
national team with his kids and return to
enjoy his holiday with a great memory with
family.
The packages are already prepared for
this kind of affordable trips to Turkey
and the fans around Europe will love the
Turkish experience, an experience like
never before

^^ OK, thanks for the infos :) !

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btw, about the French bid, it would be great if we could use the 12 stadiums/cities, especially divided like that for the first round (hope the FFF can hear me :|):


Group A: (e.g. with France)
Paris & St Denis

Group B: (e.g. with Germany)
Strasbourg & Nancy

Group C: (e.g. with England or Netherlands)
Lille & Lens

Group D: (e.g. with Italy)
Nice & Marseille

Group E: (e.g. with Spain)
Toulouse & Bordeaux

Group F:
Lyon & St-Etienne

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8147/cartefranceeuro2016.jpg

It is exactly what I've proposed a year ago in order to lobby neighboor countries to organize the Euro

Yes, 12 one would be better.
Even for Turkey. Many cities are angry. Actually Turkey is a big country and we have big cities. 12 woudl have been better.
But yeah, lack of infrastructure :D

The candidates in 2010 were:

Tunisia/Lybia (they gave up before the final decision)
Morocco, 10 votes
Egypt, 0 votes
and South Africa, 14 votes



I think you wrong especially about FIFA World cup:

2014: Only one candidate, Brazil (Colombia, Argentina and Chile gave up)
2010: The biggest country won
2006: Several strong bids (England, Germany, RSA, Brazil & Morocco), Germany won with its lobby.
2002: The biggest candidate won (Korea/Japan in one round, against Mexico which obtained 0 votes)
1998: The biggest country won (France in one round, against Switzerland and Morocco)
1994: The biggest country won (USA, againts Morocco and Brazil)
1990: The "biggest" (wealthiest) country won (Italy against the dying USSR, England and Greece gave up before the vote)

Etc Etc

UEFA =/= FIFA.

There's a big difference between choosing the country that may organise the EC and the country that may organise the WC. Every country that did bid to organise EC 2008 & 2012 were fully capable of hosting it without (m)any problems. For the World Cup on the other hand, only the big countries are able to host it. Countries like Colombia and Chile shouldn't be taken seriously. They can't organise such an event and it's only getting bigger and bigger. That's why mostly the big countries won. If the smaller countries were fully capable of hosting it a WC like Turkey for the EC 2016 and Croatia/Hungary or Poland/Ukraine for EC 2012 then it would be a completely different story. I bet FIFA would love to chose a smaller country to host a WC but there are just too many questions around it to seriously consider them.

Every country that bids for EC can host it without any problems while this isn't the case for a WC so you can't compared the bids for an EC with a WC.

BTW, you forgot to mention that (except Italy 2012) none of the "Big 5 Nations" has been candidate since 1996....
Most of time the candidates are smaller or new countries, even before 2000 !

Italy, Spain, France, England & Germany prefer trying to host the world cup (Germany & Spain in 82, England & Italy in 90, France in 98, England & Germany in 2006, Spain & England for 2018 or 2022)

Since its beginning, the UEFA Euro goes everywhere (with a large diversity of hosts), but generally, when "big nations" are candidate: They win the bid... (except once: Italy 2012)

Furthermore, today an important thing has changed (from 2016): 24 teams, so IMO maybe the big five nations will start to be interested again in the UEFA Euro (especially if they already hosted the WC recently or if their bid failed) !
Besides, it has already began, with us and Italy for 2016 :D....

And Maybe Spain, Germany and/or England could bid for Euro 2020, 2024 and/or 2028....

It's only since 1996 that the European Championship is a quite big tournament and it's being taken very seriously. It's as popular as the WC within Europe and I'm sure the big countries will start to show way more interest to organise it. In recent tournaments, the Euro's were even of a higher standard compared to the WC, it has more interesting groups, higher level of skill, no one-sided matches so I'm guessing from now on at least 1 or 2 big countries will bid for an EC every time!

There are 24 teams in it from now on so more difficult to organise it for smaller countries. Imo it should be allowed for 3 countries to organise it, places enough and aslong as 1 or 2 of 'm are quite decent then it should be ok.

So, fizmo, do you stil think Turkey will win?

Since its beginning, the UEFA Euro goes everywhere (with a large diversity of hosts), but generally, when "big nations" are candidate: They win the bid... (except once: Italy 2012)


Poland and Ukraine are bigger than Italy in terms of area.

And population...

I think he meant "the big of football" like Italy, Germany or England

Poland and Ukraine are bigger than Italy in terms of area.

obviously he ment big meaning "strong"

^^ And wealthiest/powerful also ;) !

I thought I was clear with "THE BIG 5 NATIONS" :D !

^^ And wealthiest/powerful also ;) !

I thought I was clear with "THE BIG 5 NATIONS" :D !

Russia is wealthy and powerful but not big in the term of football.

And population...

Not really, Italy outranks both of them in population.

Russia is wealthy and powerful but not big in the term of football.

:lol: yeah, that's why I wrote "AND" ;) ! (btw Russia is not as wealthy as the "big" western European Nations)...
But..Powerful, yes, they are :devil: !

here it is said that Turkey lost its 2016 chance after lasr events in Diyarbakır durimg Diyarbakır-Bursa match :(

here it is said that Turkey lost its 2016 chance after lasr events in Diyarbakır durimg Diyarbakır-Bursa match :(

here too

It's only since 1996 that the European Championship is a quite big tournament and it's being taken very seriously. It's as popular as the WC within Europe and I'm sure the big countries will start to show way more interest to organise it. In recent tournaments, the Euro's were even of a higher standard compared to the WC, it has more interesting groups, higher level of skill, no one-sided matches so I'm guessing from now on at least 1 or 2 big countries will bid for an EC every time!

There are 24 teams in it from now on so more difficult to organise it for smaller countries. Imo it should be allowed for 3 countries to organise it, places enough and aslong as 1 or 2 of 'm are quite decent then it should be ok.

This is a very biased opinion. It doesn't matter if the FIFA World Cup is full of Honduras, North Korea, Senegal and Argelia sides, UEFA EURO will always miss Brazil and Argentina. And that means a lot. If we look at the all time best players, well, almost all of them come from Brazil and Argentina. And this is not a personal a opinion, this is a fact. Look at the history. So this stuff of "higher level of skill" sounds pretty much a joke.

It's only since 1996 that the European Championship is a quite big tournament and it's being taken very seriously. It's as popular as the WC within Europe...


This is a lie. Maybe in Belgium is true, but definitely not in Italy.

Some UEFA Euro 2016 advertising posters in French cities:

Nancy, on the Tram:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8273/435389575737d9aa5a7eom.jpghttp://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3639/rtemagicc2010euro2016jp.jpg

St-Denis (candidate city, in the heart of Greater Paris), next to Stade de France:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8563/4398290383cb0f4801f1o.jpg

Paris, the French FA' headquarters:
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/8420/franceeuro2016141.jpg

Congratulations France, it is obviously that EURO 2016 will 99% be in France.


We'll look at the next time... :( maybe it wil be betetr for us.

Why???^^

So, fizmo, do you stil think Turkey will win?

yes

Why???^^



Ask the kurds in Diyarbakir...

well, violence at a sport-event happens in (ALMOST) every country...
like it always does in 2nd bundesliga, between rostock and st.pauli. or the pre- and after derby riots in rome. the (still existing fanatically) firms in english leagues.

unfortunately, what happended (and will happen) in eastern turkey has also political-reasons. this might be questioning the safety.

^^ :nono:

Ask Turkey, who has to manage its ethnic diversitiy (just like every big countries)......
Imho, those "riots" have nothing to do with the Turkish bid, which still remains very strong !!


Anyway, here is the video:
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You know Kuvvaci, i think what happened few years ago when turkish supporters of national team literally attacked the opposite team because they won against Turkey will be much more in mind that a bunch of kurds rioting... If i am able to remember it, while i am absolutely not a fan of football, i think people in UEFA will either and could be worse remember.

Russia is wealthy and powerful but not big in the term of football.

Totally !

Revenue generated (in millions euros):

1. Real Madrid 401.4 Spain
2. Barcelona 365.9 Spain
3. Manchester United 327.0 England
4. Bayern Munich 289.5 Germany
5. Arsenal 264.8 England
6. Chelsea 242.3 England
7. Liverpool 217.0 England
8. Juventus 203.2 Italy
9. Internazionale 196.5 Italy
10. Milan 196.5 Italy
11. Hamburg 146.7 Germany
12. Roma 146.4 Italy
13. Lyon 139.6 France
14. Marseille 133.2 France
15. Tottenham Hotspur 132.7 England
16. Schalke 04 124.5 Germany
17. Bremen 114.7 Germany
18. Dortmund 103.5 Germany
19. Manchester City 101.2 England
20. Newcastle United 101.0 England

Spain, England, Italy, Germany, France... those are the "big of football"...

what are the secondary nations? Nederland, Portugal ect...???

^^ it is past, I remember also "Heysel Stadium Disaster", but England host the EURO ten years later.... Turkey joined many international matches including EURO matches against Switzerland and host UEFA Cup Final (also at the same stadium) after the night you mentioned. But this last event is so fresh and I think will effect the decision of the jury. Turkey probably will be eliminated at the first round and France vs. Italy will be the final round. I say France but the members wich voted for Turkey at the first round can vote for Italy later.

IMO:

1
Spain, England, Italy, Germany and France

2
Netherlands and Portugal

3
Belgium, Russia, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, (Maybe in some years Poland, New stadiums :D )

Yes, after this shame thing in Diyarbakir i think Italy will get more votes.

-Spain, Italy, UK
-Germany France
-Portugal
-Netherlands, Russia, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine

^^ it is past, I remember also "Heysel Stadium Disaster", but England host the EURO ten years later....

You're right, but England also try to host the WC since more than 20 years now, without any success !

I would like to see Italy get these Euros as Italia90 was the best WC of all time!

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here's to Italia16 :cheers:

world cup 98 in France is better

I think Italy deserves the Euros over France because it will be 26 years between tournaments as opposed to 18 years in France's case. Also the Italians seem to be in general more passionate for football than the French and they have a better tradition in both national and club football. Turkey still has very serious hooligan problems so should be ruled out.

Turkey still has very serious hooligan problems so should be ruled out.

Yes in Italy no hooligan and no racism :banana:

Of course hooliganism and racism exists in every country. I just know as an Englishman I'd feel a lot safer in France or Italy than Turkey. Do you remember the two leeds fans who were stabbed to death in Istanbul in 2000?

trust me, when it comes to football houliganism italy is also far from safe

Of course hooliganism and racism exists in every country. I just know as an Englishman I'd feel a lot safer in France or Italy than Turkey. Do you remember the two leeds fans who were stabbed to death in Istanbul in 2000?

Yes, but it was not a football fight. Even UEFA said it.

Of course hooliganism and racism exists in every country. I just know as an Englishman I'd feel a lot safer in France or Italy than Turkey. Do you remember the two leeds fans who were stabbed to death in Istanbul in 2000?

seems like you just want to remember what you want to remember and ignore what you want to ignore. that incident in Istanbul was a one off. hooligan attacks and stabbings occur a lot more in Italy and Britain. the reality is France and Turkey are safer than Italy and Britain as far as football related violence is concerned.

This is a lie. Maybe in Belgium is true, but definitely not in Italy.

Yep. Correct. In Italy is an important event but WC is a different level.

Yes I guess I am still bitter about two English football fans losing there life in Turkey and Galatasary not being punished by Uefa and walking away with a very bloody Uefa Cup. The last time Liverpool fans were responsible for deaths of foreign football fans not only were the club banned but the whole of England's football clubs were banned for five years by Uefa! This was OTT and indeed Uefa would not be allowed to get away with it today. I can imagine there would be Leeds fans who would travel to Turkey for a European Championships so I would be worried about trouble from both English and Turkish fans.

However I don't think Turkey stand a chance because Uefa will want to play it safe with France or Italy after Euro2012 out in the wild East.

world cup 98 in France is better

:lol::lol::lol:

italy90

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we had lots of problems in hosting the WC, but they were certainly one of the best world cups in the last years!

eufootball.biz



That would be only logical I think, M6 has the money and the knowhow to operate such a facility!

200M for 43000 seater that's only about 4,700 euros per seat! That's a bit optimistic don't you think. I mean it's Bordeaux we are talking about nothing in this city is that cheap. I have to say that I like the 'new' Bordeaux downtown area a lot. I hope they spend a tiny bit more money so that the stadium doesn't turn out to be a pile of cheap junk.

Yes I guess I am still bitter about two English football fans losing there life in Turkey and Galatasary not being punished by Uefa and walking away with a very bloody Uefa Cup. The last time Liverpool fans were responsible for deaths of foreign football fans not only were the club banned but the whole of England's football clubs were banned for five years by Uefa! This was OTT and indeed Uefa would not be allowed to get away with it today. I can imagine there would be Leeds fans who would travel to Turkey for a European Championships so I would be worried about trouble from both English and Turkish fans.

However I don't think Turkey stand a chance because Uefa will want to play it safe with France or Italy after Euro2012 out in the wild East.


Actually as i said it was not a football "fight" or something like this. The turkish guy didn't even wear a GS kit or scrarf (maybe he wasn't even a GS fan).
So it was quite normal that the UEFA did not punished Galatasaray SK.

Actually so many english fans travelled to Turkey after 2000 and nothing happened.

^^:banana: thats a great intro.

I can remember when Italian football became popular in England during the nineties before the EPL became the force it is today.

Check out this intro from British TV

6CMrtb2EYKk

Actually as i said it was not a football "fight" or something like this. The turkish guy didn't even wear a GS kit or scrarf (maybe he wasn't even a GS fan).
So it was quite normal that the UEFA did not punished Galatasaray SK.

Actually so many english fans travelled to Turkey after 2000 and nothing happened.

Fans of Arsenal, Everton, Manchester United, Southampton, Coventry, Wimbledon, Ipswich etc. didn't attend Heysel in 1985 but they were banned for it.

The England national team fans were banned from travelling to Turkey in 2003 for safety resons.

Yes, but something like Heysel or Hillsborough didn't happend.
So why UEFA should ban turkish teams?

Lets have a look how many english clubs played in Turkey after 2000

2000/2001
Leeds United AFC (vs Besiktas JK)

2001/2002
Liverpool FC (vs Galatasaray SK)

2003/2004
Chelsea FC (vs Besiktas JK)

2004/2005
Manchester United FC (vs Fenerbahçe SK)
Liverpool FC @ CL final in Istanbul

2004/2006
Bolton Wanderers FC (vs Besiktas JK)

2006/2007
Liverpool FC (vs Galatasaray SK)
Tottenham Hotspur FC (vs Besiktas JK)

2007/2008
Liverpool FC (vs Besiktas JK)
Chelsea FC (vs Fenerbahçe SK)

2008/2009
Arsenal FC (vs Fenerbahçe SK)


11 matches in 8 season. And what happened? Nothing.

The English FA would not let England fans travel to Istanbul in 2003. Why do you think this was?

It is the national team that travel to European championships not clubs. It is very different having 2-3,000 English club fans flying into and out of Istanbul, to having anything up to 100,000 England NT fans spread throughout the country (including perhaps less cultured regions than Istanbul) for up to a month.

There were also some riots amde by english fans in Germany 2006.
And yes, at club football it would have been more risky, because the national team do not have an ultra group or a fan organisation. And of course like at club football no hool firm.

^^:banana: thats a great intro.

I can remember when Italian football became popular in England during the nineties before the EPL became the force it is today.

Check out this intro from British TV

6CMrtb2EYKk

this was when the italian championship was one of the best in the world...

you can still be one of the bests. You just need new stadiums and tools to take the fans to the stadiums to make more money.

Euro 2016 Houllier hausse le ton
Nice, Saint-Etienne, le PSG sont quelques unes des formations de Ligue 1 à connaitre des problèmes avec leurs supporters cette saison. A l'heure où la France est candidate à l'organisation de l'Euro 2016, le directeur technique national, Gérard Houllier, estime que ces problèmes ne nuisent pas à la candidature hexagonale. "Je ne pense pas qu'un problème avec deux-trois groupes de supporters en Ligue 1 puisse peser sur la candidature de la France à l'Euro 2016. Je pense que c'est plutôt un problème d'ingérence quand un ministre vient se mêler des affaires de la FFF. Vous savez, il y aussi des problèmes de supporters en Italie ou en Turquie", a confié à Football.fr l'ancien entraîneur de Liverpool, vendredi lors du salon Galaxy Foot, épinglant au passage la secrétaire d'Etat aux Sports, Rama Yade.

I don't think that hooligans/ultras are a problem for italy, france and turkey.
only if one man dies.
italy lost euro 2012 because a policeman died in catania (outside the stadium) few months before cardiff.

^^ I agree, I think Houllier is right (except about our lovely State Secretary for Sports: Rama Yade) !

coıld you please translate the French text for us?

I don't think that hooligans/ultras are a problem for italy, france and turkey.
only if one man dies.
italy lost euro 2012 because a policeman died in catania (outside the stadium) few months before cardiff.

a journalist is hurt by throwing stone and he will be blind, during the last week match. and police protected the players from everything the fans threw on them.

2020 Turkey :D

2020 Turkey :D

^^ I agree. 2016 in Italy :D

No prob. for me as long as San Siros cap. is 80k+ :D

i also want Euro 2020 in Turkey :)

^^ I agree. 2016 in Italy :D

I think Turkey will be eliminated at the first round. And France and Italy will be at the final round. I believe the votes of Turkey ( I mean the votes Turkey got at the first round) will go to Italy.

I believe 2020 belongs to Turkey, and nobody can take it from Turkey if there is no any sabotage or a very severe problem.

Well guys I've got an "interesting" information for you: My dad is the doctor and friend of a UEFA comittee member who told him that after reading quickly the Italian bid book, he has a feeling that this bid is too 'light" with not much concrete informations especially about stadiums projects. He said " For me Italian bid is far behind Turkey's et France's one".
:)

^^ we know that, but sercan and I think riot at the stadium in Diyarbakır last week effect the decision... We will see.

Well guys I've got an "interesting" information for you: My dad is the doctor and friend of a UEFA comittee member who told him that after reading quickly the Italian bid book, he has a feeling that this bid is too 'light" with not much concrete informations especially about stadiums projects. He said " For me Italian bid is far behind Turkey's et France's one".
:)

Than the guy do not saw the Diyarbakir thing :D

BTW thanks for that information. Great to here that our bid book is good.

coıld you please translate the French text for us?

Well, essentially, he says that the recent troubles with PSG', St-Etienne' and Nice's ultras/hools, won't be an issue for our bid. After that it's about a Franco-French question between our FA and our (young and lovely: I know, I insist :lol:) secretary for sports: About, again, Raymond Domenech and the French national team (which is weak, it's a fact, and that's why I agree with her, although I'm perhaps the last French guy who is still supporting and like Domenech :lol:)....

I think Turkey will be eliminated at the first round. And France and Italy will be at the final round. I believe the votes of Turkey ( I mean the votes Turkey got at the first round) will go to Italy.

It depends, maybe France could win in one round :D :D !

Than the guy do not saw the Diyarbakir thing :D

BTW thanks for that information. Great to here that our bid book is good.

we already knew it also...

Well, essentially, he says that the recent troubles with PSG', St-Etienne' and Nice's ultras/hools, won't be an issue for our bid. After that it's about a Franco-French question between our FA and our (young and lovely: I know, I insist :lol:) secretary for sports: About, again, Raymond Domenech and the French national team (which is weak, it's a fact, and that's why I agree with her, although I'm perhaps the last French guy who is still supporting and like Domenech :lol:)....

what happened at the French league with the teams wich are mentioned above?

Well guys I've got an "interesting" information for you: My dad is the doctor and friend of a UEFA comittee member who told him that after reading quickly the Italian bid book, he has a feeling that this bid is too 'light" with not much concrete informations especially about stadiums projects. He said " For me Italian bid is far behind Turkey's et France's one".
:)

...
my dad is friend of platini, he told me that platini is angry with the french federation because the french bid is very bad...

we can say nothing about the books, because simply we cannot read these books due the decision of french federation.

I didn't say that we can read the book. But this guy's job is to read those book to take a decision^^

Who's so kind to post me a summary of the actual status of the bids?

Are just Italy, France and Turkey left for EURO2016?
When will be the final decision?

^^ :bowtie:

French bid:

FRANCE - UEFA Euro 2016 - Candidate: Post#1 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=52384431&postcount=1)

FRANCE - UEFA Euro 2016 - Candidate: Post#2 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=52384519&postcount=2)

:devil:

final decision is on May 28, all cnadidates gave their bid books to UEFA.

Here is turkish Candidacy http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1071595

French and Italian friends may show you french and ıtalian bid threads... All 3 country have pages there.

Im sure ( unfortunately) that France will get it. I heard rumours from Uefa as well that France is the top favourite to get the event..... Platini sits there for a reason :) .......

I don't know... I know that we already lost and one of the other candidates will win, either France or ıtaly... but we will 100% get EURO 2020 without doubt.

I don't know... I know that we already lost and one of the other candidates will win, either France or ıtaly... but we will 100% get EURO 2020 without doubt.

Why you think you lost? is there smthing I dont know? I am Italian but I think that euro2016 in Turkey would be a great thing, no doubt about it....:)

i think in the end france will get the euros...italy maybe in 2024

Who's so kind to post me a summary of the actual status of the bids?

Are just Italy, France and Turkey left for EURO2016?
When will be the final decision?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1074349&highlight=euro+2016+italy

italian one

Im sure ( unfortunately) that France will get it. I heard rumours from Uefa as well that France is the top favourite to get the event..... Platini sits there for a reason :) .......

what kind of rumours? :)

what kind of rumours? :)

Well... rumours that Italian bid is not backed enough by the government and the organization doesnt look too convincing ( thats what I been told by someone in Uefa ) and that France is the favourite one..... I dont know , we will see....

France will win.Infrastrucuture,cities and stadiums are well planned.After Poland&Ukraine UEFA will not risk anything and a western european country will get it.And no one in the Uefa Comitee wants to dissapoint Platini :)

France will win.Infrastrucuture,cities and stadiums are well planned.After Poland&Ukraine UEFA will not risk anything and a western european country will get it.And no one in the Uefa Comitee wants to dissapoint Platini :)

Infrastructures , cities and organization Italy is same lvl, stadiums are planned to be built and renewed...... as you point out as well is political, and Platini will not allow Uefa to be disappointed ;)

stadiums are planned to be built and renewed......

Fortunately that stadiums are planned to be built and renewed for an international tournament of football http://nsa15.casimages.com/img/2010/03/13/100313115320321116.gif

Why you think you lost? is there smthing I dont know? I am Italian but I think that euro2016 in Turkey would be a great thing, no doubt about it....:)

Because of the riots at a stadium last week....

Because of the riots at a stadium last week....

Nahhhhh I dont think its an issue, still these things happen everywhere ( ie yesterday in Berlin..... ) ........ I think Turkey will compete until the end with France, concerning Italy no chance ....Uefa and Fifa attitude towards Italy are of penalizing constantly the Italian football in several ways.....:ohno:

why?

And those f.. Diyarbakir fans made it again.
This time some fans of Diyarbakirspor "conquered" the pitch etc :ohno:
(Istanbul BB SK vs Diyarbakr SK @ Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi, 14.03.2010)

And game over for Turkey 2016

Well... rumours that Italian bid is not backed enough by the government and the organization doesnt look too convincing ( thats what I been told by someone in Uefa ) and that France is the favourite one..... I dont know , we will see....

link, please...
I know that everything is an opportunity to criticize the italian government.
w berlusconi!

And those f.. Diyarbakir fans made it again.
This time some fans of Diyarbakirspor "conquered" the pitch etc :ohno:
(Istanbul BB SK vs Diyarbakr SK @ Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi, 14.03.2010)

And game over for Turkey 2016

wihtout reason?

link, please...
I know that everything is an opportunity to criticize the italian government.
w berlusconi!

are you joking??

wihtout reason?

Istanbul BB Sk scored the 1-0 in the 88th min :ohno:

are you joking??

no, CRIBBIO! :lol:
I'll be in Rome next saturday... (sorry for the OT)

link, please...
I know that everything is an opportunity to criticize the italian government.
w berlusconi!

link..........??? sorry I dont get it.... furthermore I dont want to talk about politics in here ,its not subject of the forum, pls behave.

I agree...let's not talk about politic...otherwiese they'll close this 3d too :lol:

link..........??? sorry I dont get it.... furthermore I dont want to talk about politics in here ,its not subject of the forum, pls behave.

you reported a info, so I asked you the link when you found this info.

...
my dad is friend of platini, he told me that platini is angry with the french federation because the french bid is very bad...
Yes it is...but if French bid is bad, Italian ones is weak and Turkey is the worst, whish country will host Euro 2016 ?
I think that France and Italy should have bid together...

^^ And what about the final ?? Rome-Olimpico or Paris-Stade de France ????? :D :D

you reported a info, so I asked you the link when you found this info.

when did I say I was reporting an info.......... I just said I heard a rumour here in Nyon from somebody that works in Uefa.....

Yes it is...but if French bid is bad, Italian ones is weak and Turkey is the worst, whish country will host Euro 2016 ?
I think that France and Italy should have bid together...

No way..... it would have been wrong..... I think a big nation like Italy and France should make it alone.....

Well guys I've got an "interesting" information for you: My dad is the doctor and friend of a UEFA comittee member who told him that after reading quickly the Italian bid book, he has a feeling that this bid is too 'light" with not much concrete informations especially about stadiums projects. He said " For me Italian bid is far behind Turkey's et France's one".
:)

i can ensure you several football stadiums in italy are under construction or being renovated for instance in turin genoa and florence (A.C. juventus, Doria and Firenze's new stadium) as the most remarkable. Many people should get knowledge before they speak.Anyway i bet Italy is gonna host 2016 european football championship

^^ And what about the final ?? Rome-Olimpico or Paris-Stade de France ????? :D :D

san siro, milan. :lol:
meet me halfway "black eyed peas"

^^ Ok, then to be more fair/neutral/midway :

Monaco :banana: !!!!

In a temporary 120K stadium, built on an artificial temporary (or not) island ! :yes:

^^ Ok, then to be more fair/neutral/midway :

Monaco :banana: !!!!

In a temporary 120K stadium, built on an artificial temporary (or not) island ! :yes:

ok, but the inaugural match??!?!
:lol:

ok, but the inaugural match??!?!
:lol:
Inaugural match in Paris and final in Roma.
Hosting inaugural match is better for France: we are sure that our team will play it...

Inaugural match in Paris and final in Roma.
Hosting inaugural match is better for France: we are sure that our team will play it...

heheheheheheheh :)

Inaugural match in Paris and final in Roma.
Hosting inaugural match is better for France: we are sure that our team will play it...

Sometimes it's the defending champion who opens the tournament.... (Kiev 2012, here we are !!! :D)
Furthermore, you have to keep in mind that France played 3 of the last 6 finals... (UEFA+FIFA) :cheers: !!!

Anyway, the final can't be played at the Olimpico since it's way too small (under 63K :ohno:).

Monaco with its temporary stadium is a much better choice ! :yes: (especially if the Principality foots the bill)
And since Monaco is a bit more French than Italian, so, to be fair we can let Italy hosting the opening game. :bowtie:

Voilà ! :lol:

So, what emerges here is a collection of really poor bids.

hmmm there are some rumours about new Turkish football team coach Guus Hiddink , has also strong relations with uefa. and will lobby for Tukey for 2016.
im still sure turkey can get it.

Hidink has no role at UEFA. How can you believe that?

Guus Hiddink is not in the uefa comitee.Only the people in the uefa comitee can decide.

I think it's Laurent Blanc that will take the destiny of french national team and show its skills for euro 2016... at home, it would be monstruous, europe will only watching :lol:

hmmm there are some rumours about new Turkish football team coach Guus Hiddink , has also strong relations with uefa. and will lobby for Tukey for 2016.
im still sure turkey can get it.

Damn, hot news here.
Go inside job, go! :cripes:

Hidink has no role at UEFA. How can you believe that?

i said strong relations :)
not he has a seat in uefa :D

he has not a strong relation more than Erzik ;)

he has not a strong relation more than Erzik ;)

bir elin nesi 2 elin sesi...:)
better with 2 :)

bir elin nesi 2 elin sesi...:)
better with 2 :)

hiddink is important as you and me are at UEFA...

200M for 43000 seater that's only about 4,700 euros per seat! That's a bit optimistic don't you think.

I have to agree, but this is BX ........... and you know about that city, apparently !

If the global bill is officially underestimated, imo it's only because of the Bordelais, who are absolutely not a "football people" :nono:......

I have to agree, but this is BX ........... and you know about that city, apparently !

If the global bill is officially underestimated, imo it's only because of the Bordelais, who are absolutely not a "football people" :nono:......

Well I won't be astonished if that stadium turns out to be a piece of junk! But I cannot imagine that seasoned media pros like M6 top management would go for a piece of crap! This is pro football, champions league level! It's about the image you generate. The stadium doesn't have to be huge if you generate enough money from season tickets but you only generate that kind of money if the stadium is nice enough not if you have a cheap thing. in addition this stadium will not be built by people from Bordeaux. They'll have the usual bid (it will take nearly forever of course) and Vinci, Bouygues or AMG will get it! They can't build anything decent at that price in France even if Bordeaux offers the land it cannot be done! Especially if they go for LEED silver, gold or platinum rating eco friendly construction!

news?

^^we ( all candidate countries) are waiting for the UEFA delegation :)

news?
what kind of news should we expect lol

Berlusconi coming with its zillions euros in the competition maybe Fizmo ? ... :lol:

Berlusconi coming with its zillions euros in the competition maybe Fizmo ? ... :lol:

berlusconi is too busy making laws for himself, he can't waste time in euro 2016!! :lol:

berlusconi is too busy making laws for himself, he can't waste time in euro 2016!! :lol:

what kind of laws? Seriously I wonder...

what kind of laws? Seriously I wonder...

oh, lots...but we are off topic here, if you want I can write you a message

^^ I love Berlusco. he's so funny !!! :popcorn: (especially when he tells, in French, his past in Pigalle when he was a student in Paris) :lol:

Inthis bid races there are two favorites.

Realistic favorite: France. This country has a big transport and accomodation infrastructure and experience about competition organazation. It has also support from Germany and other big countries in Europe.

Heart and mind favorite: Turkey. An opening for Turkey for an intergration in Europe. An occasion to build a bridge between European countries and an islamic country.

Inthis bid races there are two favorites.

Realistic favorite: France. This country has a big transport and accomodation infrastructure and experience about competition organazation. It has also support from Germany and other big countries in Europe.

Heart and mind favorite: Turkey. An opening for Turkey for an intergration in Europe. An occasion to build a bridge between European countries and an islamic country.

Turkey historically is not a European country and all hell will break loose in Europe if its gets accepted into the European Union. This is my main opponent in Turkey. I hope France gets it because it has all the necessary requirements.

Turkey historically is not a European country and all hell will break loose in Europe if its gets accepted into the European Union. This is my main opponent in Turkey. I hope France gets it because it has all the necessary requirements.

have some history then... Turkey was formally admitted to the specifically european group of nations with the paris treaty in 1856...
she is one of the founder countries of European Parliament also..
more european than Cyprus and Israel.. ( which are literally totally in asian continent) .

Inthis bid races there are two favorites.

Realistic favorite: France. This country has a big transport and accomodation infrastructure and experience about competition organazation. It has also support from Germany and other big countries in Europe.

Heart and mind favorite: Turkey. An opening for Turkey for an intergration in Europe. An occasion to build a bridge between European countries and an islamic country.

thank you for your support but Turkey is not an Islamic country, Turkey is a secular country that has a muslim majority.

why do you classifiy any western country as location ( as european instead of christianic ) when it is turkey or any middle east country with religion isntead of location or geography?

Turkey historically is not a European country and all hell will break loose in Europe if its gets accepted into the European Union. This is my main opponent in Turkey. I hope France gets it because it has all the necessary requirements.

says anyone who had nothing (no infrasuturcture no stadiums) four years ago against stronger candidate wich had everything...

BTW we are not talking about the EU (wich is another subject and no relation with history or location actually). We are talking about UEFA that Turkey has stronger position and role than your country (I am sorry if I am rude to other Polish forumers)

^^ I love Berlusco. he's so funny !!! :popcorn: (especially when he tells, in French, his past in Pigalle when he was a student in Paris) :lol:

I think he's funny too, but the problem is that he isn't a comic, fe's a fu***ng prime minister!!

have some history then... Turkey was formally admitted to the specifically european group of nations with the paris treaty in 1856...
she is one of the founder countries of European Parliament also..
more european than Cyprus and Israel.. ( which are literally totally in asian continent) .

I know that Turkey is in the Councel of Europe but that doesnt mean they are integrated into Europe. The European Union is the social, economic, and political union of each member state. Turkey has been trying to get into the EU for the past 20 years and i hope that they wont get in. Cyprus and Israel are two completely different stories. Cyprus got in because it is primarily Greek. Israel is not in the EU but has good relations with all the EU member states. Israle is in UEFA because at every match against Israel, the muslim countries were causing violent fights. They tried to prevent all the hate and fights so Israel joined UEFA.

says anyone who had nothing (no infrasuturcture no stadiums) four years ago against stronger candidate wich had everything...

BTW we are not talking about the EU (wich is another subject and no relation with history or location actually). We are talking about UEFA that Turkey has stronger position and role than your country (I am sorry if I am rude to other Polish forumers)

So you're just trying to offend me then? Yes Italy was a strong candidate. Yes you have better sources in UEFA but we still won without any sources.

I know that Turkey is in the Councel of Europe but that doesnt mean they are integrated into Europe. The European Union is the social, economic, and political union of each member state. Turkey has been trying to get into the EU for the past 20 years and i hope that they wont get in. Cyprus and Israel are two completely different stories. Cyprus got in because it is primarily Greek. Israel is not in the EU but has good relations with all the EU member states. Israle is in UEFA because at every match against Israel, the muslim countries were causing violent fights. They tried to prevent all the hate and fights so Israel joined UEFA.

so what u mean about "Turkey historically is not a European country"? u mean ancient european history about 2000 years ago.. ???

so what u mean about "Turkey historically is not a European country"? u mean ancient european history about 2000 years ago.. ???

Historically, geographly, all of the above. Anyway im done with all the rants. Turkey is a good choice for 2016 as it has shown some nice propositions for the future. I think it will be between France and Turkey. We'll see...

Again and again and again :popcorn:.....

BTW, don't you people ever get tired of that endless debate about: "Turkey vs or within Europe" ??????

Historically, geographly, all of the above. Anyway im done with all the rants. Turkey is a good choice for 2016 as it has shown some nice propositions for the future. I think it will be between France and Turkey. We'll see...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/e/ed/20080411005800!Ottoman_Empire_16-17th_century.jpg

just to make u correct... if u say its not eurpean historically check this map.. from 16th century turks are 1 of the main players in europe controlling 1/5 of the total land...
geographically its more european than cyprus ...:))
i m not aggresive but just want to correct people thinking in your way.

^^ I agree, and that's what I've always thought, I mean about eastern or southern E***pe (with or without Turkey) :D !

Here are maps of "MY" Europe :D:

Benefrageritalux :yes::
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1096/ue1957.jpg

(it makes sense, just according the GDP per capita & purchasing power :tongue:) :D
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4190/ppeuropedina5xt1copie2.png

PS: Norway and Switzerland are obviously very welcome........ :)

I am sorry Sylver, I think your arguemnent against Turkey is based on your own political, and indeed religious views, and has little relevance to the discussion on whether the Euro Championships should be held in Turkey.

The European Union has little to do with UEFA. UEFA is a footballing body concerned with all countries, whether EU members or not, that are members of UEFA.

This is why the former Yugoslavia was awarded the Championships in 1976. Whilst not part of the Warsaw Pact, the former Yugoslavia was certain not political allies of the EU, (or Common Market as it was then).

As for Geography, no one disputes that Russia is not a valid part of UEFA, even though a sizeable proportion of that country is in Asia.

As for argueing that Israel was allowed to join UEFA because of all those nasty "muslim countries were causing violent fights", I suggest you widen your reading in regards to the Middle East issues.

^^
The turks caused the european migration period with the Huns.

Hunnic Empire of Attila.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Huns_empire.png/800px-Huns_empire.png



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunnic_Empire

^^ I agree, and that's what I've always thought, I mean about eastern or southern E***pe (with or without Turkey) :D !

Here is maps of "MY" Europe :D:

Benefrageritalux :yes::
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1096/ue1957.jpg

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LOL That would be a small Euro Championships based on your map lol.

France
Belgium
Holland
Luxembourg
Germany
Italy.

We will then have our own "more fun" tournament with Spain, Norway, Sweden, Russia, Turkey, Poland, Ireland, ETC ETC ETC. :cheers:

^^ Sorry, silly me, I thought this thread was about "Europe", and not about UEFA (Euro) anymore :ohno: :bash: !

But, of course you could still play with "us" into the UEFA competitions... just like Israel does, for example :lol: !

^^ Sorry, silly me, I thought this thread was about "Europe", and not about UEFA (Euro) anymore :ohno: :bash: !

But, of course you could still play with "us" into the UEFA competitions... just like Israel does, for example :lol: !

We don't want to now lol. We are going to take our ball away and play with the Spanish lol...(remember ALL English are forced, by law, to claim at least 3 times a week that we invented the game lol).

In fact "we" should start up a rival Commonweath Football Championships. We might stand a better chance of winning that lol.

OK, I could, eventually, enlarge "MY" Europe to this (but not more :nono:) + Norway, Switzerland & Monaco which are (again) very welcome of course :hug:: :lol:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3764/680pxeu151995europeanun.png

'cause, again, according the GDP per capita etc :D
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4190/ppeuropedina5xt1copie2.png

We know when we are not wanted. Revised map lol

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3975/680pxeu151995europeanun.jpg

^^ WHAT A GREAT MAP !!!!!! I looove it !!! :banana:

But, indeed, you invented that game :master:...
But, but, but we invented all the competitions..... And......at least..... we've won them (I mean recently :D) !!!!

^^ WHAT A GREAT MAP !!!!!! I looove it !!! :banana:

But, indeed, you invented that game :master:...
But, but, but we invented all the competitions..... And......at least..... we've won them (I mean recently :D) !!!!

Yeah Yeah, but we are a GIVING nation. We gave the world Football, Cricket, Rugby, Rounders..(baseball to our American Friends), etc...then we kindly let the grateful countries to all become better than us.

Yeah Yeah, but we are a GIVING nation. We gave the world Football, Cricket, Rugby, Rounders..(baseball to our American Friends), etc...then we kindly let the grateful countries to all become better than us.

and you definitely succeeded( in letting the grateful countries to all become better than you ..... ) :lol::lol:

the ones who are against Turkey in EU . and dont see the country as a part of the continent... shame on you when are talking about equality of people and nations. the beliefs u have and the acts u do are opposite. better u save your spoiled childs who lied to u about their economical statics pay your taxes to save them:) and live in your small world.

altough no need to talk about here if turkey is europen or nor not even she enters the qualifications in olympics and football in european zone. and being the euopean capitol of culture in 2010:)
better to share opinions about 2016 candidation of countries.

yes it will be like 2016 olympic race. if the uefa has a wide sceen like IOC they will choose for turkey like Rio... if they want to be a secure place after ukraine poland 2012 they can choose france..

the ones who are against Turkey in EU . and dont see the country as a part of the continent... shame on you when are talking about equality of people and nations. the beliefs u have and the acts u do are opposite. better u save your spoiled childs who lied to u about their economical statics pay your taxes to save them:) and live in your small world.

altough no need to talk about here if turkey is europen or nor not even she enters the qualifications in olympics and football in european zone. and being the euopean capitol of culture in 2010:)
better to share opinions about 2016 candidation of countries.

yes it will be like 2016 olympic race. if the uefa has a wide sceen like IOC they will choose for turkey like Rio... if they want to be a secure place after ukraine poland 2012 they can choose france..


sorry but I really dont understand.... me too I dont see Turkey as a part of Europe for cultural and historical background, but I dont see it as a huge issue. Like being part of Europe is being the " elected " ones; Turkey is a great country even not being as a part of Europe.........

the ones who are against Turkey in EU . and dont see the country as a part of the continent... shame on you when are talking about equality of people and nations. the beliefs u have and the acts u do are opposite. better u save your spoiled childs who lied to u about their economical statics pay your taxes to save them:) and live in your small world.

altough no need to talk about here if turkey is europen or nor not even she enters the qualifications in olympics and football in european zone. and being the euopean capitol of culture in 2010:)
better to share opinions about 2016 candidation of countries.

yes it will be like 2016 olympic race. if the uefa has a wide sceen like IOC they will choose for turkey like Rio... if they want to be a secure place after ukraine poland 2012 they can choose france..

Come on... Nobody has to support Turkish membership in the EU and they have right to be against Turkish membership, it is not anything to shame if it is not from the nationalistic reasons.

Also subject is not policy and if Turkey is a part of Europe (ask Turks first), but a certain and unchanged thing that turkey is a part of UEFA and has every right to organize and join every kind of football (and other sports) organizations.

Can we close this case please?... Let's continue waiting for UEFA delegation.

sorry but I really dont understand.... me too I dont see Turkey as a part of Europe for cultural and historical background, but I dont see it as a huge issue. Like being part of Europe is being the " elected " ones; Turkey is a great country even not being as a part of Europe.........

nobody really cares what you think. just because your personal agenda(anti-islam) says turkey is not part of europe, dont mean shit.
so now according to you, kosovo, albania and bosnia are also not european countries? lol
turkey is a much much better candidate than poland-ukraine(which by the way are the worst candidates possible), they cant even finish the stadiums let alone the rest of the infrastructure. not only that but turkey economically, is much stronger than ukraine and pland.

nobody really cares what you think. just because your personal agenda(anti-islam) says turkey is not part of europe, dont mean shit.
so now according to you, kosovo, albania and bosnia are also not european countries? lol
turkey is a much much better candidate than poland-ukraine(which by the way are the worst candidates possible), they cant even finish the stadiums let alone the rest of the infrastructure. not only that but turkey economically, is much stronger than ukraine and pland.

come on... pleae let's stick on the actual topic... Jimmy has his own opinion and it doesn't make him anti-anything...

Please let's talk about EURO 2016

What do you guys think about the website of the 3 countries? We have rated the presentation/books but not yet the website itself I think.

France:
http://www.fff.fr/euro2016/

Turkey:
http://www.turkishbidforeuro2016.com/index.php

Italy:
http://www.figc.it/en/3463/22606/Impianti.shtml

The most complete one for me is the Italian site. Best updated one, simple, effective and seems to also include news and stuff. Graphically/design wise Turkey is better but it lacks more info, news and stuff. The France one looks like it has been made in just a few days. There is barely anything to find on, looks cheap and lacks not only news, info but also other things. The site from France is the worst one for me.

By the way, only 2 months to go before we know the winner. Already shitting your pants I guess :)

nobody really cares what you think. just because your personal agenda(anti-islam) says turkey is not part of europe, dont mean shit.
so now according to you, kosovo, albania and bosnia are also not european countries? lol
turkey is a much much better candidate than poland-ukraine(which by the way are the worst candidates possible), they cant even finish the stadiums let alone the rest of the infrastructure. not only that but turkey economically, is much stronger than ukraine and pland.

This guy is back? Mods please ban him...again. I remember a while ago there was some Kosova user that only flamed and trolled everyone that doesnt support Turkey. All he did was bash on Poland and Ukraine..

By the way, Kuvvaci is right, lets get back to Euro 2016.

What do you guys think about the website of the 3 countries? We have rated the presentation/books but not yet the website itself I think.

France:
http://www.fff.fr/euro2016/

Turkey:
http://www.turkishbidforeuro2016.com/index.php

Italy:
http://www.figc.it/en/3463/22606/Impianti.shtml

The most complete one for me is the Italian site. Best updated one, simple, effective and seems to also include news and stuff. Graphically/design wise Turkey is better but it lacks more info, news and stuff. The France one looks like it has been made in just a few days. There is barely anything to find on, looks cheap and lacks not only news, info but also other things. The site from France is the worst one for me.

By the way, only 2 months to go before we know the winner. Already shitting your pants I guess :)

I think our website could be better. I like Italian graphics. France has a style but inside of the website is not clear...

I am not excited. I think France will win. But it will be a nice competition.

I also want to thank our French and Italian fourmers for their fair play attidutes. We respect eachother very much and first time I witness anything like that at SCC. We just give info and rexpect the other candidates and that's great. and I am sure we will congratulate and celebrate the winner together.

Turkey historically is not a European country

Hahahah if Sobieski didn't save your asses you would be calling me Lombak Baba now.:)

Has Italy proposed any improvements or expansions to its metros?

I wonder if Italy has proposed anything yet :lol:

Has Italy proposed any improvements or expansions to its metros?

actually we're building new ones in milan, rome and naples

BTW, I don't see turkey like an european country (geograficly and politicly) too

Turkey will pass Italy´s economy in 2030 :cheers:

^^ a new troll who mess this clean thread!

:lol: fluckily there's sercan...in the italian 3d there are lots and lots of them!!

Hahahah if Sobieski didn't save your asses you would be calling me Lombak Baba now.:)
:pet:
Has Italy proposed any improvements or expansions to its metros?
I don't see any connection...

:pet:

I don't see any connection...

Go to page 104, post 2095...:)

Seems like this thread attract trolls from all over this forum lol.

Troll heaven :)

Go to page 104, post 2095...:)
His post was ridiculous, but You've achieved higher level of ridiculousness in Your post. ;)

My favorite, and probably the best choice to win the bid for Euro 2016 is France. Already have great national infrastructure as well as great stadiums. Very popular country, and after missing out on the 2012 Olympics I feel they deserve a major tournament.
Italy also hasn't hosted anything in a long time, however I think France is more ahead of them in terms of existing infrastructure as well as major venues.
As for the whole argument about whether Turkey is "European".....It has nothing to do with whether they should be allowed to hold Euro 2016. They are a member of UEFA and that's all that matters. Hopefully they will organize a footballing event in the future, but I just think that France is the best choice for Euro 2016.

It also has the best venue for a final. What a beautiful stadium.......
http://www.nyhabitat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/800px-stade_de_france_2005.jpg

His post was ridiculous, but You've achieved higher level of ridiculousness in Your post. ;)

Thank you, I always try for the highest levels.:)

BTW I support Turkey. It's always good when big sport event comes to new country. Both France and Italy hosted EURO twice. They also hosted WCh twice. Not choosing new booming football country would be incomprehensible decision.

And this is how the Turkish Final will be :cheers:

Normal Capacity 90,000
Euro Capacity 81,000


http://i48.tinypic.com/55h10i.jpg

UGLY

The architect of Stade de France and the original Atatürk Olympic are the same :bash:

Maybe but I have never liked this stadium :ohno:

And this is how the Turkish Final will be :cheers:

Normal Capacity 90,000
Euro Capacity 81,000


http://i48.tinypic.com/55h10i.jpg

Looks nice and stuff with all the fancy stars and blitzes but probably when it's build it won't be anything special. Seems like the Turkey bid is a bit too much about flashy, high quality renders but they forget about the substance.

And there's no Belgian flag on it so that's another -1

there are lots of german flags...I think that's because germany will support france :lol:

Maybe but I have never liked this stadium :ohno:

I also never liked the original stadium.The french architect of stade de france has betrayed us !!!!! BEAUCOUP MERDE !!!:bash:

But the upgrade version of Atatürk Olympic (rendering) looks better than the original

even the upgrade is bad.
They have to demolish this stadium.

Thanks to Fenerbahce we can't use their stadium.
Would be perfect. One stadium on the european side (TTA) and one stadium in the asian side (SSS)

this is our final stadium :)

http://municipioxx.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/stadio-olimpico.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3097/stadiofu0.jpg

during the 2009 champions league final
http://www.lungotevere.org/public/foto/stadio%20finale%20champions.JPG
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01411/manchester-united_1411381c.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/2009_Champions_League_Final_opening_ceremony.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/5/27/1243447648749/Champions-league-final-tr-001.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/5/27/1243447649609/Champions-league-final-fa-002.jpg

during rome's derby

http://www.asromaultras.org/0607lazioroma_DSC07816.JPG
http://www.asromaultras.org/0506lazioroma_DSC06270.jpeg

during a national team's match (I was there :))

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_vYMWXoi0HAY/RU9Ew8xoABI/AAAAAAAAABA/K0abLyh3CY4/IMG_1780.JPG

The Stadio Olimpico is a very historic stadium, and Ataturk is also nice, but IMO the Stade de France is the most beautiful stadium in Europe.

The Stadio Olimpico is a very historic stadium, and Ataturk is also nice, but IMO the Stade de France is the most beautiful stadium in Europe.

the most beautiful stadium in europe IMO is the new wembley stadium, but I think that of the three stadiums candidate for 2016 final stade the france is the best, ataturk is the worst

For me all italian stadiums are out of time.Even the stadiums for 2016.They all have 60s style and nothing modern.

i am sure that those are just bid projects

To be honest, I don't like stadio olympico. You sit way too far from the field to enjoy it 100%. I was a bit dissappointed that it hosted the CL final but ok, I guess they had to give it to Italy after X number of years. This years stadium, the one of Real Madrid, is just perfect. Modern, very close to the field, perfect view, quality pitch and te stadium looks good.

To be honest, I don't like stadio olympico. You sit way too far from the field to enjoy it 100%. I was a bit dissappointed that it hosted the CL final but ok, I guess they had to give it to Italy after X number of years. This years stadium, the one of Real Madrid, is just perfect. Modern, very close to the field, perfect view, quality pitch and te stadium looks good.

it's true, it's not a football stadium, but it's a nice stadium, with a good architecture

I vote for Turkey... Euro 2012 Poland & Ukraine could work against that bid. UEFA may want to choose Italy/France as more "classic" bids this time.

My favorite, and probably the best choice to win the bid for Euro 2016 is France. Already have great national infrastructure as well as great stadiums. Very popular country, and after missing out on the 2012 Olympics I feel they deserve a major tournament.
Italy also hasn't hosted anything in a long time, however I think France is more ahead of them in terms of existing infrastructure as well as major venues.
As for the whole argument about whether Turkey is "European".....It has nothing to do with whether they should be allowed to hold Euro 2016. They are a member of UEFA and that's all that matters. Hopefully they will organize a footballing event in the future, but I just think that France is the best choice for Euro 2016.

It also has the best venue for a final. What a beautiful stadium.......
http://www.nyhabitat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/800px-stade_de_france_2005.jpg

actually France will win..

actually i think italian bid and italy itself as a country is a bit undervalued.
To adnanmenderes:i wouldn't dare say italy's gonna be overtaken by turkey within 2030,just try thinkin it's just passed the UK!anyway backin to our issue, i see lots of you r judging what the final result might be focusing on the level of infrastructures,facilities and so on.it's true that France is probabily the most suitable between the three of them to host EURO 2016 because of its level of services but i wouldn't undervalue italian ones which are improving very quick and above all spreading all over the country,especially in the southern part.has anyone of you never tried to think at this event as a huge opportunity for a quality development in many field (economic as first)?!speakin of that all my support goes to turkey although i'm italian.thus france is ranking at the third place!

for me Ataturk olympic stadium is a very good designed architectural stadium... but its not a football stadium also:)

its soo wide open and fresh&white not a cubic closed arena thats why i like it and symbolise istanbul in many ways... BUT not a football stadium:)

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the best stadium ever built is beijing bird nest i guess :S and new valencia one is awesome also... not a fan of st. dennis... nothing special in that one.. just a big stadium not like wembley or azteca or nou camp.... no idea about rome s one.. cause i didnt go to stadium when im in rome >:S

ataturk screams olympic games

The stadium was built for Olympic Games 2008 :D

i like it. but certainly it's not for football!! you could host an athetichs world championship there!

i like it. but certainly it's not for football!! you could host an athetichs world championship there!

thats what i mean....
but renovation could be change it... we can use it as a multi sport stadium after that...
but it will change the desgin of it which i really like now... a cresent roof and wings of a seagull....:)

but i really like it... its so wide open and well fresh ... :)

but the projects of Besiktas football club for Inonu stadium is awesome... also the location of the place is unique.. just near the bosphorus with the ottoman palace near....:) if i can find the project detail i will share here

i like it. but certainly it's not for football!! you could host an athetichs world championship there!

neither is olimpico, at least the attaturk olipiyat is a much better "non-football" stadium.
how about turkey host the EURO and "you could host an athetichs(athletics) world championship there!" :bash:

I rather have a 40k stadium without an athletic track than a 60k stadium with an athletic track. It doesn't have the same close-to-the-pitch-feeling and it ruins the atmosphere. Just remember all the stadiums in Angola during the Africa Cup!! All of them were with an athletic track and the atmosphere was just awful. It felt so boring. I really hope no stadiums (or max. 1) with an athletic track are choosen. I think both Turkey and France would have only 1 stadium with an athletic track I guess so on that case it's even between those.

it's a difficult choice :/

France - Kermits
Italian - Eyetie
Turk - you know what

it's a difficult choice :/

France - Kermits
Italian - Eyetie
Turk - you know what

And you're a fascist scumbag...

What about the fanzones in Turkey? Is there enough space (plazas) in every city to have a couple of fanzones (for 100/200k?). With 24 teams in 2016 and the increasing popularity of fanzones, this is an essential part of organising the tournament.

And what about the possibility of camping in Turkey? I haven't seen a lot of camping spots the last few times when I was there. Maybe it's more a West-European thing, camping, but it's quite important for the fans. Are there a lot of camping spots in Turkey? I think fans prefer to stay on camping spots because the atmosphere is much better + during summer it's nice weather.

camping:
http://www.habluetzel.com/weblog/images/camping.jpg

http://debalisnietrond.web-log.nl/debalisnietrond/images/2008/06/17/oranjecamping_147378a.jpg

Fanzones:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/06/08/fanzone1.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44752000/jpg/_44752537_fanzone2_afp416.jpg

http://www.bndestem.nl/multimedia/archive/01308/fanzonebern_1308861b.jpg

Fan zones.
http://www.turkishbidforeuro2016.com/index.php?mid=207

Don't know if there will be camping zones As far as i know UEFA do not have such a criterea

France is be voted!!!!!!!!!!

Fan zones.
http://www.turkishbidforeuro2016.com/index.php?mid=207

Don't know if there will be camping zones As far as i know UEFA do not have such a criterea
Fanzones are quite important but shouldn't be a big problem for either of the 3 countries I guess so it won't play a big role in who will win the bid. My comment was merely from the visiting fans point of view (not the bid itself).

The Stadio Olimpico is a very historic stadium, and Ataturk is also nice, but IMO the Stade de France is the most beautiful stadium in Europe.

but I think that of the three stadiums candidate for 2016 final stade the france is the best

And you have to keep in mind that the SdF consortium is going to spend €100M, in order to upgrade/renovate it. ...again ! :) (from now to 2016)

BTW, I don't know what they're going to do/change/upgrade exactly, but IMO, €100 million is a huge amount for a "simple" renovation (even if that spending is spread out over 5 years) ?????

100 mil is huuge.
I would guess better suites, lounges and seats etc. But still 100...wow
Maybe 4th tier :D

I think both Turkey and France would have only 1 stadium with an athletic track I guess so on that case it's even between those.

:nono: :nono:

France , athletics tracks : NONE !! (among the twelve stadiums)

Maybe you forgot that ;) :
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Without :happy: :
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magneficent stadium... But hosted World Cup before ;)

Fanzones are quite important but shouldn't be a big problem for either of the 3 countries I guess so it won't play a big role in who will win the bid. My comment was merely from the visiting fans point of view (not the bid itself).

There are enou8gh fanzones areas for the Turkish cities. Espacially I can talk about the cities I know. Bursa has a good park, Anywwhere in Istanbul can be possible, also Kuruçeşme arena next to Bosphorus (wich is a concert area), Izmir has good sqaures. Antalya has a lon huge beach also beach park and square! Ankara has also parks, epcially yought park netx to the stadium, or hypordrome... I don't know about Eskişehir, Konya and Kayseri.

100 mil is huuge.
I would guess better suites, lounges and seats etc. But still 100...wow
Maybe 4th tier :D


A fourth ring, I don't think so :lol: and it's impossible, especially because of the pillars which support the roof ;) !

But perhaps, among others, they are going to replace (again) the HD video screens by even more imposing ones :nuts: ??? (knowing that they're already the largest ones in Europe)

About the suites, well, maybe you're right (And I hope so) but all the suites and VIP areas (opened in 98) were entierely renovated, by one of the most famous French designer, for the Rugby WC (2007) which is quite recent !

(and BTW the result is horrible, that's why I hope they'll be renovated again. I've already been once in the suites and twice in business seats & lounge: although the facilities are luxurious and modern, they are also designed in a : minimalist-toy-UGLY-style :D)

Take a look :ohno: :

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Mmh . Maybe better infrastructure? More parking?

But hosted World Cup before ;)


Which one ???? OH, I'm sorry, maybe you meant World CupS ::baeh3: :D

:runaway:

Anyway, thanks for the compliment, 'cause this stadium is, however, THE Stadium of FRANCE (aka the well named) :yes: !

Clearly the FIFA World Cup, because no one cares about the other one :)

I jest

because no one cares about the other one :)


:mad2: :mad2:

And, who is ""no one"" ???? :lol:

Apparently, not them :baeh3: :

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Nor them :D ;):

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The majority of the world I meant, not a few Parisians. :)

This time, I'm not jesting. Or am I?

^^ well, it depends of your definition of: World !!! :lol::lol:

I mean: UK and its former Empire + France (Paris & southern France) + Italy (Rome & northern Italy) + some Pacific paradise islands.... All this is already a great world.... Anyway it's MY world and I love it !!!! :D :grouphug:

(+ Japan which will host THE WC in 2019) :hug:

:)

I have no interest in rugby, but I have nothing against it either. I am impressed it manages to be as popular as it does. That said, its popularity is very limited worldwide, and any mention of a "World Cup" can only really refer to one thing.

Rugby World Cup in Japan? That sounds like an incredibly horrible idea to be honest, worse than giving the World Cup to South Africa. As far as I know, rugby is not really anything in Japan. Its baseball > football > and thats where it stops. What does its rugby league average in attendance?

And to stay on topic, Italy must win 2016. It will be a travesty for world football if they dont!

And to stay on topic, Italy must win 2016. It will be a travesty for world football if they dont!
why? :) explain :)

Euro 2016 Bid
Last straight line before the decision
Two months after filing with the UEFA his application to the organization of EURO 2016, France is preparing to receive, on Wednesday 14 and Thursday, April 15 next, the official UEFA delegation visiting score from the three candidates.


The aim of this visit is to assess the political support of government and cities, but also to clarify certain technical points identified by UEFA after the analysis of French case.

Following this visit, a press conference * will be held Thursday, April 15, from 17:00 in the auditorium of the FFF in the presence of Jean-Pierre Escalettes, President of the French Football Federation, Frederic Thiriez , President of the Professional Football League, Jacques Lambert, director general of the FFF and Gerard Houllier, Technical Director National FFF.

France enters the final stretch, which ends Friday, May 28, 2010, when UEFA will announce in Geneva, the name of the host of the competition.

The French Football Federation continues to mobilize and rally the public around this great project.

For all the news of the nomination of France in Euro 2016 and click on fff.fr for France!

When I see that presentation , i think that You(France) should try to host FIFA World Cup in 2018 , because You are too good for Euro :P

Prime Minister Erdogan accepted the UEFA COMMITTEE

http://www.euro2016adayiturkiye.com/publishDocument.php?id=652

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan hosted and had breakfast together with the UEFA Committee headed by UEFA Executive Committee member and the Chairman of the National Team Competitions Committee Gilberto Madail, at Dolmabahçe Palace Presidency Office.

As he addressed the UEFA Committee before the breakfast, in the hope that the technical works presented yesterday was satisfactory for all, he said that he was ready to answer the questions on governmental support.

Pointing out that he was the Mayor of Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality in the years between 1994 and 1999 and he was a football player back in his youth he said “Besides being the Prime Minister of Turkey, I am here today as a football and Istanbul lover.”

Erdoğan mentioned that with its land spreaded in two continents, with the bosphorus, its history and its modern face Istanbul is one of the most precious cities of the world along with its unique hospitality to be the home for different cultures and beliefs throughout the history.

TURKEY’S PASSION FOR FOOTBALL

He also reminded that football, developing rapidly for the past 20 years is the common passion of Turkish people and Istanbul is the home for three greatest teams of the Turkish League. He also spoke about as an important member of UEFA since 1962; Turkey had successfully hosted UEFA Champions League Final in 2005 and UEFA Cup Finals in 2009. “Our teams have been achieving very significant results each year in UEFA’s organizations. On National level, our team was able to compete in quarterfinals in the latest European Championship” he said.

Pointing out that Turkey is in the process of accession negotiations with the European Union, Erdoğan expressed that in order to abolish the prejudices; Turkey will utter its contributions to Europe made in the past and will be made in the future in every opportunity. He defined football as one of these opportunities as Turkey adds flavour to European football.

While stating that this is the third time in a row that Turkey is bidding for European Championship, he continued as follows:

“This is the most important indicator of our determination. We have promised to build 6 new stadiums for this bid and as the Prime Minister of the Republic of Turkey; I have provided a guarantee letter for EUR 920 million. In addition, the Council of Ministers have signed the guarantees in the fields of their responsibilities’ that were placed in the bid dossier. I don’t think that we are missing out on anything in this matter.

Our country is in an economic breakthrough. While the effects of the global crisis are harshly felt in these days, Turkey has been among the countries that achieved the fastest development in the last quarter of 2009. It is foreseen that this rapid development will increasingly continue in the forthcoming periods. I would like to indicate that as the 6th largest economy of Europe, Turkey will continue growing and be ready for the organisation in 2016 in every possible way.”
As he denoted that 40% of Turkish population being under the age of 22, Erdoğan said finding qualified personnel and volunteers for the organisation will not be any problem. “This young population is very excited about hosting their European peers in our country. Additionally UEFA European Championship will provide an ideal basis for them to identify their role models.” He continued.

Erdoğan said that it is beyond a shadow of doubt that the new stadiums to be build with the governmental guarantee until 2014 will develop Turkish football significantly and he said “Mr. Madail is the best person to tell about the contributions that Euro 2004 European Championship made to Portuguese football.”

BREAKTHROUGHS IN TURKEY

Erdoğan declared that Turkey has been in a breakthrough on transportation in the last 7.5 years since then new motorways have been built and new high speed rail lines have been developed. “I would like to emphasise that we have extensive transportation projects and they will be carried out in a shortest time. For example, our underwater tube railway project, MARMARAY, is in the process of completion. This tube will connect the two sides of the bosphorus while being an important link for Beijing – London railway” he declared.

As for the preventative measures for violence, Erdoğan said with the new law, it is aimed to avoid the unwanted behaviours in the tribunes and this law would meet with the security requirements of UEFA in 2016 as he continued “Turkey is a fast growing country in the field of tourism as well. Our tourism figures have increased while the revenues remained at the same level despite the global crisis in 2009. As I stated in France, we are among the 10 most attractive tourist locations in the world and while the other 9 have negative charts in front of them, Turkey again came up with positive results and continued its growth in the field of tourism. Hotel investments are carried on in every part of our country. Leaded by Istanbul, hotel capacities in Konya, Kayseri, Antalya, Eskisehir are increasing every year significantly. Projects on building new modern airports to which Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir and Antalya airports are taken as examples are developing. Renovation works on each host city airport will be completed by 2016.

Istanbul Congress Centre that was built on my instruction in a record level short time to host the IMF World Bank Yearly Meeting and Haliç Congress Centre that is located at the Golden Horn shore both have the capacities to handle all kinds of events during and prior to the tournament.”

PROMISE TO HOST MOST SUCCESSFULL TOURNAMENT EVER

Stating that European Championship is the third largest sports event in the world and it is the most precious product of the UEFA Erdoğan said “I am aware of the significance of this tournament for UEFA. I and my country, we are ready to work together with you to make this organization become even more valuable. I do not hesitate to promise you that this will be the most successful tournament ever organised since the Championship Final between Milan and Liverpool that is mostly categorised as the best final ever was hosted by our country. The latest UEFA Cup was also realized almost flawlessly at organisational level by us. We watched that last game with Italy’s Prime Minister Berlusconi. It was a very meaningful game since it was very interesting to watch a team winning by 3-0 to loose in one moment. It was very significant to prove how everything can change momentarily in football. The game caused a very different excitement.”

Erdoğan also stated that football had played a major role on the breakthrough of relationship with Armenia last year. He said “While we were hosting Armenia last year in Bursa, my dear friend President Platini was also present at the stadium. This event was an example of European Championship’s role for gathering cultures together as it was a major peace breakthrough.”
Erdoğan reminded the European Championship’s main mission “Bringing together the countries and historical rivalries to celebrate the common passion of football” and the vision is “to develop a sustainable heritage for European football”
He later continued: “We are willing to do our bests to provide a ground for Europe’s best football countries to present their best football. In order to do this, be sure that we will turn Turkey into a festival area and we will provide the best environment for UEFA to work at. I am excitedly waiting for 29 May 2010. It is not only me but my whole country is also waiting.
While indicating once more that if given the opportunity, hosting Europe in our country would be a great pleasure for me, I would kindly request you to send my kindest greetings to Mr. Platini and wish you pleasant visits in the forthcoming weeks.”

GO TURKEY !!!!

as far as i know Italy and France have got there own forum, because they have many users

The Italian forum is 10 times bigger than the Turkish..

did UEFA COMMITTEE visit France and Italy as well?

The Italian forum is 10 times bigger than the Turkish..

but look at those that vote for turkey! the great majority is turkish!
then the italian don't go in the internatiornal forum because they have their own great forum!

did UEFA COMMITTEE visit France and Italy as well?

italy next week, same for france.
13 or 14 may uefa will publish on his site a evaluation report.

why? :) explain :)

I just think Italy's infrastructure needs a big upgrade, and a Euro can provide for that. Nothing against Turkey or France really, they both deserve to host tournaments, I just think Italy really needs this one.

The funny thing is more than 50 % of the votes for Turkey are by other foreign members.

but look at those that vote for turkey! the great majority is turkish!
then the italian don't go in the internatiornal forum because they have their own great forum!

definitly not true. The majority is non-turkish.

then the italian don't go in the internatiornal forum because they have their own great forum!

Same for the French forumers !

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BTW, indeed the UEFA committee will be here the next week,
AND (much, much more important): The 2 projects of the upgraded Stade Vélodrome will be known & presented on this date (4/15) !! :banana:
As far we know: apparently, first-class 70K+ stadium for both, and the one proposed by Vinci is designed by Populous/HOK :cheers:

Same for the French forumers !

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BTW, indeed the UEFA committee will be here the next week,
AND (much, much more important): The 2 projects of the upgraded Stade Vélodrome will be known & presented on this date (4/15) !! :banana:
As far we know: apparently, first-class 70K+ stadium for both, and the one proposed by Vinci is designed by Populous/HOK :cheers:

of course.

it's a difficult choice :/

France - Kermits
Italian - Eyetie
Turk - you know what

???

berlusco will not receive the uefa committee...that's good news, he won't say one of his pathetic jokes (obama is tanned, ect...)

berlusco will not receive the uefa committee...that's good news, he won't say one of his pathetic jokes (obama is tanned, ect...)

stop to write about berlusconi. you are obsessed.
berlusconi is our prime minister. recently he won the regional election. so shut up.


berlusconi is in the USA with Obama and some other leaders in these days.

W BERLUSCONI!

stop to write about berlusconi. you are obsessed.
berlusconi is our prime minister. recently he won the regional election. so shut up.


berlusconi is in the USA with Obama and some other leaders in these days.

W BERLUSCONI!

come in the italian 3d, I see we've got many things to talk about :D

Italy must win 2016. It will be a travesty for world football if they dont!

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I just think Italy's infrastructure needs a big upgrade, and a Euro can provide for that. Nothing against Turkey or France really, they both deserve to host tournaments, I just think Italy really needs this one.All the more reason Italy should NOT win, in my opinion. Deserve and need are two different things, and if this supposedly strong, football-mad nation can't develop the first rate venues and infrastructure without needing a UEFA or FIFA event then move on to a nation that's willing to do so regardless.

^^ so, wich one is your favorite?

^^ so, wich one is your favorite?I'm on record saying that I think France is most viable option but that Turkey should get the nod. I believe these events should be distributed as an enticement to spur development but not as a blunt excuse. Assuming all bids are factually correct Turkey is developing most of their stadia and infrastructure whether or not they win the right to host the Euro's, as such this gesture would be a wonderful nod to the evolution of Turkish football and culture, while also hopefully strengthening the ties between Turkey and Europe. France would be a wonderful host but there's little benefit to UEFA in them hosting right now.

I've no doubt Italy would also be a great host and that some of the proposed developments would come to pass, but to date I've not seen the level of commitment/investment to suggest UEFA would see the dividends on giving them this event. After the recent scandals Italian football would be better served to prove it's ability to recover on it's own and then bid again in some 10+ years time when they can use the event to showcase a new generation of venues and fans.

But this is just one man's opinion from across the Atlantic.

today the uefa delegations came to italy!!

today the uefa delegations came to italy!!

Yes but Italy will have not euro :)

today the uefa delegations came to italy!!
The delegation arrived in France this evening. They already met the Prime Minister. Tomorrow they will have a meeting with Sarkozy and the FFF. The day after, the delgation will have a technical reunion with the FFF.

The president of the French federation was in Israel last week in order to convince the president of the Israeli FA to vote for France :cheers: !
Maybe one more vote for us :) !


«Pour le match retour entre Bordeaux et Lyon, je serai en Israël avec le président de la Fédération pour le convaincre de votez pour nous à l'Euro 2016».

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Italian federation doesn't seem really confident :D :
In race to host Euro 2016, Italian federation relying on professionalism of UEFA president
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (CP) – 5 hours ago

ROME — Italy is counting on UEFA president Michel Platini's professionalism preventing any favouritism in the race to host the 2016 European Championship.

Along with Italy, Platini's native France and Turkey are also bidding for the 24-team tournament, with the host set to be chosen at a May 28 meeting in Geneva.

A UEFA delegation wrapped up a two-day visit to Italy on Tuesday with a government reception at Palazzo Chigi, which houses the office of Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi.

"I think Platini is a great manager and UEFA president, and as UEFA's president he should want to make sure that the choice is made in the interests of the organization he's in charge of," Italian football federation president Giancarlo Abete said. "We have two valid opponents - France and Turkey - that each present different characteristics. (France) has a lot of tradition - just like Italy - and Turkey is a country that wants to organize an international event to improve its integration with Europe. But Italy has its cards to play and that's what we're doing."

Italy has not hosted a major football tournament since the 1990 World Cup, and hosting the Euros would help the country renovate many of its dilapidated stadiums.

Concerns in Italy include fan violence and the ongoing trial related to the 2006 match-fixing scandal, which is threatening to explode again.

The UEFA delegation was led by Gilberto Madail, the chairman of body's national team competitions committee.

"We're still in the evaluation phase of the dossier, but the meeting was positive and we'll be able to make more considerations after May 15 when UEFA publishes its evaluation report," Abete added.

The Canadian Press.

^^ that thing was said at least a month ago!

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Yes but Italy will have not euro :)

We have the new Nostradamus :cheers:


Sincerely, I hope that the euro will be awarded to Italy only to end the arrogance shown by the French and Turks in this thread

We have the new Nostradamus :cheers:


Sincerely, I hope that the euro will be awarded to Italy only to end the arrogance shown by the French and Turks in this thread

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