Hey fellas, I decided to open a thread about the automobile industry in EE, cause we are witnessing a boom of investments in that sector here. So share with us details of this industry in your country. I know that we're not exactly producing SUVs and cars here but we're still producing at least car parts which is equally as important and lucrative. So share news, post pictures etc. just be constructive. Also, post news/pics of plants that are already producing or that are U/C - no need to post announcements and promises or early interests from companies.

So this is about what I know for Macedonia (I'm sure the other Macedonians around can add other stuff too)

- Johnson Controls are constructing a factory near Skopje for electronics for cars.
- there's also a plant in Struga (I think) for seat belts that has mainly exported it's products in Russia.

Hi, what do you mean only car parts???

Dacia factory, Pitesti, Romania

bought by Renault in 1999 and now producing over 400.000 cars a year. Dacia has sold last year cars for over 1 bln EUR

Dacia Logan series

Logan
http://www.iziare.info/img/dacia-logan-fata-lateral-stanga.jpg

Logan Van
http://www.dacia.ro/logan-van/exterior/thumbs/logan-van-7/at_download/data

Logan Break
http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag276/dacia-logan-break-1-big.jpg

Logan MCV
http://www.autoshow.ro/gallery/data/media/171/dacia-logan-MCV-10.jpg

That's the project of the first Bulgarian car,branded "Universe".

“Юнивърс” е с двигател от Smart 4/4, на чиято платформа е създаден. Окачването му също е на Smart, но някои от частите и детайлите са български. Агрегатът е с 1.5 литра обем и мощност от 105 к.с.

The engine is from Smart 4/4.The car is made from the Smart 4/4's platform.the suspension is also from Smart,but some of the parts and pieces are Bulgarian.The volume is 1.5l and the horse-power is 105

http://www.ipo.bg/images/picturegallery/2007/06/7bc742e1-c718-45cd-88cd-0e57a0860db3/bb6470d1-d258-4830-8a0a-5b78259c4b89_B.jpg
http://www.ipo.bg/images/picturegallery/2007/06/7bc742e1-c718-45cd-88cd-0e57a0860db3/fa73c282-57fe-4eac-bf79-523f6e2e47f7_B.jpg
http://www.ipo.bg/images/picturegallery/2007/06/7bc742e1-c718-45cd-88cd-0e57a0860db3/e9d5de28-8276-47c1-b6db-71cdfec32129_B.jpg
http://www.ipo.bg/images/picturegallery/2007/06/7bc742e1-c718-45cd-88cd-0e57a0860db3/0de5d7d3-3d2a-4b8f-b339-3e4c88a5c742_B.jpg
http://www.ipo.bg/images/picturegallery/2007/06/7bc742e1-c718-45cd-88cd-0e57a0860db3/7437306c-94e6-4753-b0a4-50d96cbfc9c4_B.jpg
http://www.ipo.bg/images/picturegallery/2007/06/7bc742e1-c718-45cd-88cd-0e57a0860db3/af90d3cf-1b21-42b9-8c26-af16e3b5a8e7_B.jpg

This company is located in Craiova[Romania] and besides 4 models of cars (Matiz, Cielo, Nubira II and Tacuma), it also building motors and gear boxes(and other suff maybe :D).

Images from the factory:
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/daewoo/daewoo%20092.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/feraj/daewoo%20099.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/montaj/daewoo%20375.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/motor/daewoo%20403.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/presaj/daewoo%20137.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/stoc/daewoo%20057.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/turnatorie/daewoo%20072.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/vopsitorie/daewoo%20100.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/ansamble%20auto/daewoo%20432.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/daewooauto/galerie/big/centru%20tehnic/daewoo%20036.jpg

And the 4 models:

Matiz:
http://www.daewoo.ro/modele/matiz/images/pic03.jpg

Cielo:
http://www.daewoo.ro/modele/cielo/images/pic03.jpg

Nubira II:
http://www.daewoo.ro/modele/nubira/images/pic05.jpg
http://www.daewoo.ro/modele/nubira/images/pic01.jpg

Tacuma:
http://www.daewoo.ro/modele/tacuma/images/pic02.jpg

But soon this factory will be bought by Ford, GM or other, but Ford is the most interested and also wants to extend it. :banana:

"I know that we're not exactly producing SUVs and cars here " huh? :)

Ukraine has full cycle of production of own made cars under our own brands.

There are ZAZ, LuAZ, LAZ, Kraz, Bohdan and some other Ukrainian automobile companies.

LAZ bus
http://www.czetro.com/LAZ01.jpg

Serbian supercar manufactarer:

http://www.zoragy.com/

Serbian supercar manufactarer:

http://www.zoragy.com/

is the black guy doing the commercial serbian? :lol:

No, he's Ukrainian;)

Volkswagen - Bratislava
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40102000/jpg/_40102359_slovakvw2_bbc203.jpg
Makes Volkswagen Polo, Volkswagen Touareg, Audi Q7, and most parts of Porsche Cayenne.

http://www.caradisiac.com/media/images/le_mag/mag228/vw_polo_03_big.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/volkswagen/volkswagen_touareg_2006_04.jpg
http://www.autogaleria.pl/fotografie/audi/audi_q7_v12_tdi_2006_05.jpg
http://www.hofele.com/design/de/Zubehoer/Largo_RS_20/img/hofele-design_largo_rs_20_porsche_cayenne.jpg


Peugeot - Trnava
http://www.daikin.sk/binaries/PSA%202_tcm63-8464.JPG
Makes Peugeot 207 http://imgs.pravda.sk/sk_atesty/A061227_P21_207-HDI-01_V.JPG


Kia - Zilina
http://www.autosieger.de/images/articles/KIA-Werk_Zilina_3.jpg
Makes Kia Cee'd http://www.autoplus.fr/diaporama/images/PROM-6U2PJ2/$file/kia_Cee-d@2006_0010.jpg




Then there is Volkswagen Martin, which supplies all Volkswagen factories in Europe with gearboxes. Many further suppliers all over the country including Jonson Controls, Delphi etc.

I almost forgot, the only "slovak" car is the K1 Attack

http://www.priceofhistoys.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/attack-k1-7.jpg
http://www.super-sportwagen.net/images/K1%20Attack2.jpg

K1 Attack in the streets of Bratislava:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLLabJVXWG8

http://www.formal-analysis.com/data/centrope/centrope20.jpg
central part of eastern europe

^^ central part of eastern europe

Then what's the western part of eastern europe?? ;)

Seriously, guys, I'm actually amazed to see so many working factories in EE (and CE). This Czech map is awesome, you're goddamn lucky guys :cheers:

BTW, by automobile industry I meant only cars but whatever you can post pictures of bus/tram/train/tank factories if you like as well. Anything that drives!! :)

We have a bus production factory in MK called Sanos which has sold buses to Belgrade.

http://www.fas-sanos.com.mk/products.htm

^^

that's their old web site while they were still a state owned company I don't know why it's still up... the new one is simply

http://www.sanos.com.mk/

the Audi Gior factory reminds how much dumbasses we are... that one was supposed to be build in Skopje... :bash: :bash:

Roman Tucks has been producing trucks and busses since 1921 The factory is located in Brasov, Romania some of it's models:

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/1766/89978145bm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5752/48325107ji7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7598/66749685cc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2581/41027874aj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/2877/33255191wq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4223/92382904aj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7104/82732224sr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1681/39367700zz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/5024/82462924px5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6084/10ny3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7906/11ud7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1732/12tf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://www.formal-analysis.com/data/centrope/centrope20.jpg
central part of eastern europe

You should add the Hyundai factory in North Moravia in Czech Republic. The construction has been started recently... and also notice that Toyota/Peugeot/Citroen in Kolin is a single factory, not 3 separated...

Current Skoda's portfolio:

the smallest model Fabia:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/Fabia.jpg

Octavia Scout Estate:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/OctaviaScout.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/OctaviaScout2.jpg

Octavia hatchback:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/Octavia.jpg

Roomster MPV:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/RoomsterI.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/Roomster2.jpg

Superb:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/Superb.jpg

Yeti concept (production scheduled to start in 2008):
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/Yeti.jpg

Yeti concept cabrio/hardtop:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/YetiCabrio.jpg

Hey,do you remember that several years ago there was a Bulgarian car,which was unique and sold on the Plovdiv's fair?Can s.o. remeber it's name and post a pic?I used to read about it at the newspapers.

What's the background of that Bulgarian car? Is it (going to be) massively produced?

Cielo:
http://www.daewoo.ro/modele/cielo/images/pic03.jpg


But soon this factory will be bought by Ford, GM or other, but Ford is the most interested and also wants to extend it. :banana:

It is my nexia :)
In Poland daewoo was bought by GM. Now they produce chevrolet.

if there are significant sponsors, the long-term plan is for a production line for Univers

So, this is what is produced in Russia:

AvtoVaz:
http://www.ural.ru/gallery/project/avto/obzori/lada_priora_1.jpg

GAZ
http://www.gazavtomig.ru/files/product/img25_1.jpg
http://www.autovek.ru/images/upload/1268/ru/31105.jpg

Ural
http://www.uralst.ru/cat/1057/image002.jpg
http://www.uralaz.ru/i/auto/trucks/32-43206-00.jpg

KAMAZ
http://www.kama-techincom.ru/img/catalogue/big/6520-big.jpg

+ Foreign factories:
Ford
http://www.avtoportal.ru/bank/6174_ford_focus_2.jpg

Toyota (will be opened in few month)
http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/645/645484/toyota-camry-se-20050825061523642.jpg

Renault
http://www.drive.ru/images/renault/renault-logan.jpg

This is what is assembled in Slovenia:

Renault Twingo (exclusively in Slovenia)
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/autowereld/20061012/08/159900154-de-nieuwe-renault-twingo-als-concept.jpg

Renault Clio Campus (also known as Storia in some markets, exclusively in Slovenia)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_roadtest_images/car_rt_photo_512110_1_7.jpg

However, we also build parts for many car makers, for example seat apoulstry for Volkswagen, headlights for Renault, frames for Mercedes Benz. We also make Marbus (former TAM) and Neoplan buses.

Neoplan's airport buses are made in the Marbus assembly plant for example:
http://www.ihr-tech.cz/media/zast/neoplan_bus.jpeg

And here are some of Marbus' own brand:
http://www.taxi-thiessen.de/images/Marbus%20Wesselb.JPG

Akrapovič, which makes some very well-known motorcycle exhaust systems, is also based in Slovenia and so is Adria Mobil, which makes popular caravans and camping vans.

ARO Cross Lander (Campulung - Romania)

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4049/14551167pa6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

never mind

Kaliningrad's Autotor primarily specializes in assembling German BMWs, South Korean Kia's and Chinese YUEJINs



http://bmw.avtotor.ru/images/work/models/pic_3series.jpg

http://bmw.avtotor.ru/images/work/models/pic_5series.jpg

http://www.avtotor.ru/KIA/carnivalnew/images/design_04.jpg


http://www.avtotor-cv.ru/images/NJ1041DBZ2_b.jpg

Toyota Peugeot Citroen, Kolín, Czech republic

http://www.autoabeceda.cz/images/clanky/tcpa3.jpg
http://www.autoabeceda.cz/images/clanky/tcpa1.jpg
http://www.autoabeceda.cz/images/clanky/tcpa2.jpg
http://www.autoabeceda.cz/images/clanky/tcpa.jpg

Kentoya, Czech republic
http://www.kentoya.cz/img/layout/kentoya.gif

http://www.kentoya.cz/dbpic/zoom_3
http://www.kentoya.cz/dbpic/zoom2_10
http://www.kentoya.cz/dbpic/shutter50_5
http://www.kentoya.cz/dbpic/blowup_4
http://www.kentoya.cz/dbpic/atlas500_1
http://www.kentoya.cz/dbpic_view/vector250_1?title=Vector%20250#

Kaipan was founded in 1991 as a fully Czech-owned company. The goal of its founder was to enlarge the Czech market offer with an exclusively sports convertible (roadster)

http://www.kaipan.cz/img/fotogalerie/21.jpg
http://www.kaipan.cz/img/fotogalerie/19.jpg
http://www.kaipan.cz/img/fotogalerie/15.jpg

Trelleborg Automotive produces car parts in Romania

Swedish company Trelleborg Automotive opened last week a plant at Dej, that will produce car parts for Dacia, Renault, Audi, Ford and Peugeot. Company officials estimate sales of EUR 31.5 million by the end of 2009. Trelleborg is specialized in production of polymers parts and is active in 40 countries. It has annual sales of some EUR 3 billion.
(25.06.2007

Octavia hatchback:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/Octavia.jpg

Roomster MPV:
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/RoomsterI.jpg



Oh man .... i just love the Skoda cars ... Hope soon will be able to buy one of the obove 2 models. Really like them ! :cheers:

^^ yes Skoda cars are nice, but I really hate Skoda's sign.

So, this is what is produced in Russia:

GAZ
http://www.autovek.ru/images/upload/1268/ru/31105.jpg



Cant believe this car is still being produced. They havent changed it for ages! Whats the spec and price?

It is slightly changed, the front was altered 10 years ago.

Cant believe this car is still being produced. They havent changed it for ages! Whats the spec and price?
They have changed a lot inside the car, and external look was redesigned in 2004 and a bit in 2007.
http://steer.ru/archives/280507/Volga/image_6.jpg
The price is 10-14 thousand $

It is slightly changed, the front was altered 10 years ago.
"Why do you lie?" (c)

^^ I actually really like the car... kind of a timeless design :)

Here is another vehicle produced by GAZ, coolest of all of them: GAZ 2330 "Tigr"
http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n17/tiger/800/21.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4861/img4999mh7.jpg

And this is "Kombat", produced in St. Petersburg, by KB D.Parfenova and "Avtokad"
http://www.armoringgroup.com/modules.php?name=eng_discription
http://www.autopanorama.ru/ex/kombat/t-98/1.jpg
http://www.motorpasion.com/images/combat_t98-01.jpg
http://t98.ru/uploads/PICT0122h.jpg
And about Volga:
Pic of old Volga for comparison. Ah.... i rememer how my grandfather was taking me around the city(Kara-Balta, now in Kyrgizstan) in this car back in the soviet times:)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Wolga_GAZ_24-10.jpg/800px-Wolga_GAZ_24-10.jpg

Maluch

http://www.centrum-europy.org.pl/grafika/maluch.jpg


http://www.tenzor.cz/zajeby/blog/maluch/maluch.jpg
http://kurde.pl/gfx/maluch.jpg
http://muzeumhumoru.onet.pl/_i/_h/maluch.jpg
http://img.hotjpg.pl/2006-10/e7da44001ee9c8b03d12881f0e7e2402.jpg
http://www.ktp.pl/warsztat/foto/92/rally_maluch.jpg
http://muzeumhumoru.onet.pl/_i/_h/maluch_truck.jpg





http://www.fotopolis.pl/galeria/06_hojny_maluch.jpg

Is it true that Volga is being discontinued with the GAZ themselves switching completely to the production of light trucks?

Russian company buys UK vanmaker (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5230806.stm)

Is it true that Volga is being discontinued with the GAZ themselves switching completely to the production of light trucks?

Russian company buys UK vanmaker (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5230806.stm)
I haven't heard about discontinueing Volga, but Gaz now mostly produce light trucks and vans, this is true.
http://www.sobral-razobral.ru/design/gazel.jpg

I didn't know you were a Kyrgyz, my eastern friend :)

I got here one nice pics of my favorite car...(beside audi R8 road car)

Skoda Octavia RS

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Skoda_Octavia_RS.jpg

I didn't know you were a Kyrgyz, my eastern friend :)
No i'm not, i was born in Moscow and then spent some time in Kara Balta because my grandfather was living and working there on uranium enrichment facility.
Actually, the terrible truth is that my father is half ukrainian :ohno: :lol:

Is it true that Volga is being discontinued with the GAZ themselves switching completely to the production of light trucks?
GAZ won't be getting out of the car market. They have bought (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ#2006_and_beyond) the rights and tooling for the old Dodge Stratus, and will put it into production next year. IIRC sales of Volgas rose last year when GAZ announced that the marque would be discontinued (they've since backtracked), so it would make sense to use the Volga name for the Stratus-based model.

It is my nexia :)
In Poland daewoo was bought by GM. Now they produce chevrolet.
Not exactly. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabryka_Samochod%C3%B3w_Osobowych#Post-Daewoo_FSO)
Daewoo went bankrupt in 2000, leading to an acute deterioration of FSO's position. Daewoo Motors itself was bought out by General Motors (and its Asian partners), but overseas manufacturing subsidiaries such as Daewoo-FSO were not part of the deal. Therefore, FSO became de facto independent again.

Through lengthy negotiations, the Polish government secured FSO the rights to manufacture and sell the Lanos and the Matiz until 2007. Nevertheless, FSO did not have the means to update the models, so they quickly became less and less attractive, not to mention that Daewoo's collapse caused the buyers to become very wary of Daewoo cars. FSO found salvage in the Ukrainian market, where Matiz and Lanos, assembled by the local partner AvtoZAZ, became very popular. In 2004, Daewoo-FSO was renamed FSO again.

During that period, the Polish government was actively seeking a new strategic partner for FSO, but no major automaker expressed interest. Finally, FSO entered talks with the British MG Rover, but as talks progressed it became apparent that the British company, did not have the means to complete the deal, despite vague suggestions of the involvement of an (alternating) Chinese partner. MG Rover went into administration in 2005, putting an end to any hopes connected with it.

In view of that, the UkrAVTO holding, the current owner of ZAZ, became the only possible partner for FSO. The Ukrainian company became gradually a majority shareholder of FSO (84,31% of shares), while at the same time strengthening the cooperation between FSO and ZAZ. UkrAVTO suggested it will provide a new model for the FSO to manufacture after the Matiz and Lanos licenses expire. This might refer to the Sens, and updated (T150) version of the Lanos, currently assembled in Ukraine using parts supplied by FSO.

In the late 2005, the media started reporting that General Motors is believed to be in talks with both UkrAVTO and FSO itself concerning the assembly of GM Daewoo products for the European Union market (currently, all GM Daewoo products for EU markets are imported from South Korea, which makes them subject to EU customs duties). In the end of 2006, it was reported that FSO is preparing to start the production of the Chevrolet Aveo.

No i'm not, i was born in Moscow and then spent some time in Kara Balta because my grandfather was living and working there on uranium enrichment facility.
Actually, the terrible truth is that my father is half ukrainian :ohno: :lol:

Well, since you have good Ukrainian blood in you, there's still chance of selfcivilization for you :) you can start by visiting Ukrainian section more often and learning about culture :cheers:

What about BELAZ from Belarus? I like these monster trucks!

Why are there so many letter "Z" in former soviet automotive names?
ZAZ, LuAZ, LAZ, Kraz, VAZ, KAMAZ???

Why are there so many letter "Z" in former soviet automotive names?
ZAZ, LuAZ, LAZ, Kraz, VAZ, KAMAZ???
Avtomobilny Zavod - AZ - automobile factory
GAZ - Gorkovsky avtomobilny zavod
MAZ - Minsky avtomobilny zavod
etc...

OK, thanks

GAZ have recently bought LDV

This is the new LDV Maxus:
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/Hi-Res-Pics/LDV-Maxus-LP1hr.jpg

They will be starting production of Maxus (and maybe other LDV models) in Nizhnij Novgorod (GAZ hometown) soon.

:cheers:

They will be starting production of Maxus (and maybe other LDV models) in Nizhnij Novgorod (GAZ hometown) soon.
Currently the Maxus (in all its various permutations -- van, minibus, chassis-cab, etc.) is LDV (http://www.ldv.com/gb/index.asp)'s only product.

how can this be a thread about cars in the EE without having a single picture of the Yugo?
http://peter.mcnabbs.org/pics/yugo.jpg

And now, how about a zhiguli?
http://www.abc.se/~m9805/eastcars/vaz/vaz1a.jpg

Uprgaded soviet cars: :)
http://carguru.ru/i/users/82/2482/2482/1/IMGP0744.jpeg
http://www.thetuning.ru/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/zaz-tuning-02.jpg
http://www.thetuning.ru/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/volga-gaz-21-02.jpg
http://www.zubil.net/fun/zapor/zapor1.jpg
http://www.thetuning.ru/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/gaz_tuning_01.jpg

So noone knows nothing about BELAZ :(

I love those big trucks! Monsters! I want one! If I had some, there would be no traffic problems for me - I'd just drive over those pesky little cars and smash them like butter!

Look at that one (that's a small model):

http://www.belarusguide.com/images/industry/BelAZ-7513.jpg

http://belaz.minsk.by/about/?lang=en

^^ Well, thanks but I already know about their website. It's not frequently updated though :( I hope they cope well and build even larger trucks! Like those huge ones that carry minerals in Ural. Unfortunately there are no such trucks in Bulgaria (though I heard that there are actually some older models still in use in the Marica-Iztok coal mines).

Uprgaded soviet cars: :)


http://www.thetuning.ru/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/volga-gaz-21-02.jpg



is this the upgraded old Volga that is now in limited production? how much does it cost?

Unbelievable, some fantastic cars are made in EE!

Currently the Maxus (in all its various permutations -- van, minibus, chassis-cab, etc.) is LDV (http://www.ldv.com/gb/index.asp)'s only product.
Oh i c. Well, IMO Maxus was a great purchase by GAZ, its a ready product that is of better quality (and higher price range) than their GAZ range.

Dacia Logan

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/518/dacialoganyf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New Dacia looks good .
I guess all eastern european countries had its own automobile industry , except Albania .


Not sure if Bulgaria had one . :?

^^ We had too. We produced Bulgarrenault in Lovech :) But we abandoned it. Anyway, we had our Chavdar buses produced in Botevgrad...

Maluch

http://www.centrum-europy.org.pl/grafika/maluch.jpg


^^ We had a similar one - Lastun :lol:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4871/55107859mb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

We also used to produce Oltcit (in cooperation with Citroën) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oltcit

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6757/39608876yu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ We had a similar one - Lastun :lol:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4871/55107859mb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

We also used to produce Oltcit (in cooperation with Citroën) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oltcit

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6757/39608876yu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

:)
but dacia500 was not popular vehicle and oltcit is very long due to maluch (bambino, fiat126p)
:)
maluch was the best :nuts:

^^ :nuts: :lol:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6757/39608876yu7.jpg

Looks almost exactly like Lada

http://www.policeman.sk/Police%20vehicles/Lada%20Samara%20white%20-%20MP.jpg

It used to be a decent car back in late '70s / '80s. And yes looks similar ^^ ^^
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9053/76875789rh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8066/68341812pw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Anyway, more pics of amazing Slavuta

http://www.slavuta.elit-auto777.ru/img/page_img/a1-b.jpg

http://www.slavuta.elit-auto777.ru/img/page_img/zaz-zad-blue-b.jpg

http://www.slavuta.elit-auto777.ru/img/page_img/slavuta2-salon2-b.jpg
:lol:

Tavria wagon
http://www.slavuta.elit-auto777.ru/img/page_img/c1-b.jpg

Tavria pickup
http://www.slavuta.elit-auto777.ru/img/page_img/d1-b.jpg

http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/217/zaz_1103_slavuta_2.jpg

http://slavuta-club.info/filez/wallpaper_1.jpg

Ukrainian engineering and designing at its best! :nuts:

Polish maluch after tuning look like too :):nuts:
http://www.as-feder.co.yu/images/dopuna1/tuning%20fiat%20126p%20maluch%20a.jpg
http://muzeumhumoru.onet.pl/_i/_h/maluch_truck.jpg
http://muzeumhumoru.onet.pl/_i/_h/maluszek.jpg
http://muzeumhumoru.onet.pl/_i/_h/malaktor.jpg
ok, finish OT
:lol: :lol:

k, this Dacia should be the best

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7096/daciaba2.jpg:)

Polish maluch after tuning look like too :):nuts:

ok, finish OT
:lol: :lol:


It's funny because Maluch(maluco)in portuguese is MAD :lol:

k, this Dacia should be the best

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7096/daciaba2.jpg

ok, but maluch is more dynamic:
http://www.pep.neostrada.pl/wsieci/maluch.jpg
:lol:

one of the most hilarious videos I've ever seen :hilarious:
epjNUVhpZ_U

^^ k k, i m giving up:lol:

another STAR of Polish engineers and desgners of FSO from Warszawa (Daewoo, Rover and Chevrolet factory)
http://www.clapsiq.rst.com.pl/img/syrenka.jpg

Maluch was produced in FSM Bielsko-Biala (currantly Fiat factory)

hey but whait! Dacia reloaded!:banana:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5264/daciaolteneascara6.jpg

a Maluch only cost €50

q5YYTNyvGmo

syrena again :)
http://szalony.fm.interia.pl/tuning%20syrena.jpg

hey but whait! Dacia reloaded!:banana:

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5264/daciaolteneascara6.jpg

^^ Hahaha ... BTW I know where they took this picture ...:lol:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4596/88891913em0.png (http://imageshack.us)

I completely forgot about UAZ:

UAZ Hunter
http://www.russian-jeep.ru/zadmin_data/mode.image/58646.jpg
http://www.vzlyot.ru/tun/10_art_uaz_hunter/06.jpg

UAZ Patriot
http://www.uaz-avto.info/images/uaz_patriot.jpg

New Oka
http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2004/n11/rusnews/800/09.jpg

Oka was my favorite soviet car

one of the most hilarious videos I've ever seen :hilarious:
epjNUVhpZ_U

Ok, now this WAS hilarious! :hilarious

Polish luxurious car -Leopard
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-8.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-1.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-6.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-3.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-2.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-7.jpeg
Famous clients
-Karol XVI Gustaw-King of Sweden
-Twentieth (20th) Century Fox Film Corporation

Future
Leopard Coupe:
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6020/leopardcoupegf7.png

Zoragy

http://info.detnews.com/dn/joyrides/2005/autorama05/04zoragy.jpg

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13120&stc=1&d=1119356472

http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13121&stc=1&d=1119356480

http://www.zoragy.com/

Zastava 10

http://www.ak-raketa.co.yu/foto/zastava10.jpg

^^ Fiat Punto. :D



That Leopard is one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen! :runaway:

^^ Leopard Automobile started building a factory this year, their goal is to make 100 cars per year. The pricetag is €124.000.

^^ Fiat Punto. :D



That Leopard is one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen! :runaway:

No, Zastava 10, license built :D

^^ Leopard Automobile started building a factory this year, their goal is to make 100 cars per year. The pricetag is €124.000.


€125,000 ;)

Polish luxurious car -Leopard
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-1.jpeg

Morgan (http://morganwest.net/aero_8/8carx.jpg) anyone?


Here are some pics of the Russian rally superstar.

Lada "Revolution 2"
Realized in collaboration with the tunning atelier TMS, and equipped with a 16-valves engine, it boasts 216hp

http://digilander.libero.it/cuoccimix/IMG_Revolution2_back.jpg

http://digilander.libero.it/cuoccimix/IMG_revolution2_front.jpg

Polish luxurious car -Leopard
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-1.jpeg
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/9880/leopard-3.jpeg

^^ nice, remind me "Morgan"...
edit: plasticboy was faster :)
http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/44%20front%20web%20large%20wires.jpg
http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/4%204%20with%20wires%20rear%202.jpg

ZIL(Zavod Imeni Likhacheva), Russia's only post-soviet luxury car maker, has recently introduced its ZIL 4112 series limousine:

http://autoserver.ru/images/repositary/large_20439.jpg


http://autoserver.ru/images/repositary/large_20436.jpg

http://autoserver.ru/images/repositary/large_20431.jpg

Hopefully it will make it to the production.


On a side note, ZIL (once known as ZIS) has been in business since 1936, and it's built limousines for decades. Bulletproof ZILs served Stalin, as well as Lavrenti Beria, his notorious secret police chief.

http://images.forbes.com/media/lifestyle/2006/08/14/19_0814feat.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2303/58z111tu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This hardcore off road version of GAZ GAZEL has always been my favorite:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/6291/large5008om1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1984/large5019zr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-01


Length, мм:5860
Width, мм: 2170
Height, мм:2870
Weight, кг:3500
Engine, h.p.: 110
Gas consumption л/100 км.: 18
Max Speed, км/h: 90
Price, $:10 350

Some other marvels of Russian industry that I found to be worth mentioning:

VAZ (Niva) March - price: $14K
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3867/large7269bx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5576/large7267cf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


VAZ 2111 "SUV" - price: $13k

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1558/large5799is3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

(VAZ) LADA - Roadster concept

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9364/large5425dt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Speed "friendly" VAZ 2110 equipped with a pair of Sparco seats

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9529/large507or9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5452/large514lr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tunning version of the famous GAZ 61

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5272/large13795iy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1697/large13803ka7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3712/large13802sl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Modified ZAZ 965 a.k.a "Gorbatyj" / "HUMPY"

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8794/large24013fs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8388/large24014gv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6485/large24017ri6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

There is a Cross Lander factory in Brazil:
www.crosslander.com.br

Gummo, do you know Tom Zé ?
:lol:

There is a Cross Lander factory in Brazil:
www.crosslander.com.br

Gummo, do you know Tom Zé ?
:lol:

sim, hahahaha


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=489414

^^
olha isso

^^
:rofl:

Here in Bulgaria are experts in crashing automobiles!!!

Here is what some police cameras shot on the streets of Sofia!

http://www.zazz.bg/play:dfb61cd0

all that i know that DACIA ROLES!!!!:banana: :lol:

i'm not fully sure but i think there was a major Volkswagen Plant in Sarajevo before the war which produced a lot of Golfs i'm not sure if the Plant re-opened or not..

Well, when talking about concept cars, I cannot forget Skoda Tudor 2002, that is based on Superb's platform, should be powered by 2.8 litre 6-cylinder 190hp engine:

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/skoda-tudor-2002.jpg

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z244/ptalas/Skoda/skoda-tudor-2002-2.jpg

ok, but maluch is more dynamic:
http://www.pep.neostrada.pl/wsieci/maluch.jpg
:lol:

You bet it is.

Polski Fiat 126p, 500 HP, on King of Europe taking place in Poland this year.

VmdyVi_v4fM

i'm not fully sure but i think there was a major Volkswagen Plant in Sarajevo before the war which produced a lot of Golfs i'm not sure if the Plant re-opened or not..
According to its entry at Global Auto Index (http://www.globalautoindex.com/maker.plt?no=1425&g=Volkswagen), the factory reopened in 1998 and currently assembles various Volkswagen, Audi and Skoda models.

i'm not fully sure but i think there was a major Volkswagen Plant in Sarajevo before the war which produced a lot of Golfs

Yes it was called TAS (Tvornica Automobila Sarajevo)

You can notice the TAS "amblem" on this Golf I here

http://www.leksikon-yu-mitologije.net/files/TAS%20Golf.jpg

^^ Lol, my new car. :lol:

In Hungary, now 2 companies are making cars: the Audi in Győr and the Suzuki in Esztergom. Before WW2, we made various cars, trucks and buses. After WW2 we were not allowed to make cars, our job was to make buses (Ikarus) for the whole eastern block. We also continued to make trucks (Rába, Csepel). The first car to be made here was the Opel Astra in March 1992. The GM-Opel has a factory in Szentgotthárd, which used to produce Astras, now making engines and transmissions for Opel and other GM cars.
The Audi AG decided to build an engine factory in Győr, and since 1999 this is the only factory to produce Audi TT cars. The new generation TT was introduced in 2006. Meanwhile, the factory produces about 2 Million engines per year, for Audi, and other firms of the VW Group like VW, Skoda, Seat, even the V10 engine of the Lamborghini Gallardo is made here. The Audi also has a development center in cooperation with the Budapest University of Technology and Economics.
TT Coupé:
http://index.hu/cikkepek/totalcar/tesztek/ttgyarlatoga/.gdata/gpb_ttgyarlatoga_003.jpg
http://index.hu/cikkepek/totalcar/tesztek/ttgyarlatoga/.gdata/gpb_ttgyarlatoga_040.jpg
http://index.hu/cikkepek/totalcar/tesztek/ttgyarlatoga/.gdata/gpb_ttgyarlatoga_018.jpg
TT Roadster:
http://index.hu/cikkepek/totalcar/magazin/hirek/audi/tt2r/.gdata/gpb_fs.jpg

The Suzuki factory in Esztergom was opened in 1992 too, and started to produce Swifts. It also used to produce the WagonR+. Now the new Swift, the Ignis and the SX4 is made there. The SX4 is made in cooperation with Fiat, so the Fiat Seidici, which is the same car except of the emblem, is made also there.
Swift:
http://www.suzuki.hu/%5Eupload/autogaleria/swift3/01.large.jpg
http://www.suzuki.hu/%5Eupload/autogaleria/swift5/02.large.jpg
http://www.suzuki.hu/%5Eupload/autogaleria/swift3/11.large.jpg
Ignis:
http://www.suzuki.hu/%5Eupload/autogaleria/ignis/01.large.jpg
SX4/ Fiat Seidici:
http://www.suzuki.hu/%5Eupload/autogaleria/sx4/03.large.jpg
http://www.suzuki.hu/%5Eupload/autogaleria/sx4/04.large.jpg
http://www.fiat.it/FIAT_ITALIA/uploads/PB_TMPL_SHOWROOM/1074078884/20070129/pic_x_big_sedici_1.jpg

^^ yes Skoda cars are nice, but I really hate Skoda's sign.

This is very short history of skoda sign.
http://skodaps.wz.cz/skoda/skoda_znak/skoda.gif
from Indian
http://skodaps.wz.cz/skoda/skoda_znak/skoda4.gif
to arrow with wing and eye

I like this symbol.

My favourite czech cars...:dance:

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/tatra/t52_01.jpg
Tatra 52 Cabriolet Sodomka, Československo 1931

http://auta5p.eu/srazy/roztoky_2005/roztoky_47.jpg
http://auta5p.eu/srazy/roztoky_2005/roztoky_47a.jpg
Tatra 80, Československo 1932 V12:banana:

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/tatra/t87_04a.jpg
Tatra 87, Československo 1938

http://auta5p.eu/srazy/slavkov_2004/slavkov_149.jpg
Tatra 97, Československo 1938........ This is real VW Beatle. Production was stopped by Hitler.

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/tatra/t603_9a.jpg
Tatra 603, Československo 1955

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/tatra/jk_2500_01.jpg
Tatra JK 2500, Československo 1956......This car wasnt good for commi time..:mad:

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/wikov/wikov_35_02.jpg
Wikov 35 Kapka, Československo 1931 :master:

http://auta5p.eu/srazy/roztoky_2004/roztoky_16b.jpg
Praga Golden, Československo 1935..........only for rich

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/aero/aero_50_02.jpg
Aero 50, Československo 1938

http://home.clara.net/peterfrost/mtx5.jpg
MTX Tatra Sport V8, Československo 1991

And my winner is......:righton:

http://www.muzeum.myto.cz/iauto/arizona1.jpg
Aero 50 Dynamik

http://auta5p.eu/katalog/tatra/t613_10.jpg
Tatra 613 Coupé, Czechoslovakia-Italy 1969

Skoda 720 Czechoslovak-Italian project...design by ItalDesign :ohno:

After soviet invasion was project canceled. Becouse many people musted go away from Skoda factory....:bash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzqjkcdruno

Ford bids for Romanian Daewoo car factory - only company left :nuts: so they will get it if the price is right

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/05/business/EU-FIN-COM-Romania-Ford.php

Could you maybe stop posting pictures of foreign car makers which only build a factory and produce in your country? Its not like Audi is an hungarian product...

^ good point :lol:
in fact there's nothing like automobile industry in EE...

Could you maybe stop posting pictures of foreign car makers which only build a factory and produce in your country? Its not like Audi is an hungarian product...

Dacia = Renault
Skoda owned by VW...
Zastava, some cooperation with FIAT
Only Russia has some indipendent automoblie companies... :ohno:

Dacia = Renault
Skoda owned by VW...
Zastava, some cooperation with FIAT
Only Russia has some indipendent automoblie companies... :ohno:

Dacia is Romanian car bought by Renault. The same for Skoda. Not my problem if Hungary can not produce any

Dacia is Romanian car bought by Renault. The same for Skoda. Not my problem if Hungary can not produce any

Yes, but that's just history. 100% owner of Škoda is VW. And Škoda cars share many components with VWs. Moreover, factories of Škoda are no more only in CZ, they move to Bosnia, Ukraine, Russia, India, China...

Dacia is Romanian car bought by Renault. The same for Skoda. Not my problem if Hungary can not produce any

Well I think the Dacia Logan is 100% Renault product, was designed by Renault and also produced as Renault Logan in Russia and India. If you open up the hood of a Dacia Logan, you will only find the text "Renault" on its engine. Anyway as far as I remember, the first Dacia was made after the license from Renault 10 I think. So the only Dacia which can be considered as real Romanian product is the Solenza (which also rests on ancient Renault 12-Dacia 1300 basics). I don't think that the Logan can be considered more Romanian as the Suzuki Swift Hungarian.
To MareCar, I think this thread is about automobile industry in EE, so what is automobile industry when it is not about producing cars? EE does not really have independent car factories, apart from Russian ones. They can only survive because of their huge domestic market. I don't regard Audi TT a Hungarian car because it was not developed here but it is assembled here, and most of its parts are coming from local suppliers, so Audi is a part of Hungarian automobile industry.

:lol: :nuts: So if a firm from Kuwait bought Aston Martin it means it’s not British anymore ?!?! :nuts: Can you not see that you have no arguments? Just lie to yourself maybe you will persuade your brain that there is a Hungarian car that never existed ... :lol:

Well, I for one think it should at least be emphasized when a car is produced exclusively in some country, like for example the new Renault Twingos are produced only in Slovenia.

A car has components in it coming from tens of countries. Some BMW's have shock absorbers made in Romania by some company from another country. And this goes on and on for every car and for every country.

Dacia is a Romanian brand, therefore it is a Romanian car, just like Skoda is Czech and Seat is Spanish, although if you try the latter two the differences are small. That doesn't detract from people's perception of them being Czech and Spanish respectively.

The research and design for the next Dacias will be made in Romania, by the way:
http://english.people.com.cn/200611/02/eng20061102_317525.html

:lol: :nuts: So if a firm from Kuwait bought Aston Martin it means it’s not British anymore ?!?! :nuts: Can you not see that you have no arguments? Just lie to yourself maybe you will persuade your brain that there is a Hungarian car that never existed ... :lol:

It seems you misunderstood something... I tried to explain that the Logan is not a 100% Romanian car because it was not designed by Romanian engineers and is not based on Romanian technology. I've never stated that Suzuki or Audi are Hungarian cars because they aren't, they are just made here. The situation is the same with the Logan. Aston Martin is still British, because their cars are still designed and developed and made there. I still consider Volvo a Swedish car for the same reasons, even though it is owned by Ford. The Dacia factory was founded to provide the people of Romania with cars, but apart from developing an own car, they got a licence from Renault, the same way the Zhiguli was made in the Soviet Union or the Polski Fiat in Poland. So when Renault bought the Dacia factory, it bought a factory which used to produce copies of Renaults. I have never stated that we are making Hungarian cars, just producing cars of Japanese and German firms. But I still state that the Renault-Dacia, the Hungarian Suzuki and Audi, the Zastava, Skoda, Daewoo-FSO and so are parts of the automobile industry of EE. Anyway if Hungary made its own sports car, the ignition key would look something like this :D
http://index.hu/cikkepek/totalcar/magazin/kozelet/2007marc15/.gdata/gpb_huszarkulcs_Hammer.jpg
:cheers:

Well, I for one think it should at least be emphasized when a car is produced exclusively in some country, like for example the new Renault Twingos are produced only in Slovenia.

The Audi TT is produced exclusively in Győr, no TTs are made in Ingolstadt or Neckarsulm or any other Audi factory. This is the same for Suzuki SX4/Fiat Seidici. The Suzuki Swift is also made in Japan and India. Anyway as far as I know, the Citroen C1/Peugeot 107/Toyota Aygo is made only in Kolin, Czech Rep.

A car has components in it coming from tens of countries. Some BMW's have shock absorbers made in Romania by some company from another country. And this goes on and on for every car and for every country.

Dacia is a Romanian brand, therefore it is a Romanian car, just like Skoda is Czech and Seat is Spanish, although if you try the latter two the differences are small. That doesn't detract from people's perception of them being Czech and Spanish respectively.

The research and design for the next Dacias will be made in Romania, by the way:
http://english.people.com.cn/200611/02/eng20061102_317525.html

^^
@ BND

I hope d29's made it more clear

^^ Sorry if I was not clear. The situation of the Dacia and Skoda/Seat are not the same. Skoda/Seat cars are not VWs with a Skoda/Seat sign but the Logan is a Renault with a Dacia sign, nothing more. The same with the new Zastava 10, it is a Fiat Punto with a Zastava sign. Brands are cars are very diferent nowadays, hope you doesn't want to mean that the Chevrolet Kalos or Spark are American cars, even though the brand is American :)

Yugo power :righton:

http://geocities.com/thefoggti/Yugo1.jpg

http://geocities.com/thefoggti/Yugo2.jpg

http://geocities.com/thefoggti/Yugo3.jpg

http://geocities.com/thefoggti/Yugo4.jpg

Dacia is Romanian car bought by Renault. The same for Skoda. Not my problem if Hungary can not produce any

@ BND
^^ I did not say Logan only. Maybe I was not clear. I meant Dacia as a brand. So Renault bought a Romanian car/factory and developed it.
And I agree that Logan is "a Renault with a Dacia sign" ... However it is fair to say that there is a difference between countries that had a brand (bought and developed by others nowadays) and countries that hadn't. Not big deal but still a difference ...

The point is, that everybody who sees this Thread thinks about it as a Thread to show the Automobiles from Eastern Europe, means Eastern Europe Cars, and not Western European Cars produced in Eastern Europe. That's like saying a BMW 5 produced in China is a CHinese car:nuts:

Dacia is Romanian car bought by Renault. The same for Skoda. Not my problem if Hungary can not produce any

Logan was designed by Renault... It even has on it: By Renault... Without that noone would buy it... Skoda is different. It always had a good reputation based on its history... But Dacia... When a romanian made car, Dacia, Oltcit, all crap like that arrived to Hungary, or to the other countries the owner was lucky if he/she could get to the first service where the car was put together once again, normaly... And why do the Logans are sold under the name of Renault in for example Iran, and other countries?

^^ ^^

@ BND
^^ So Renault bought a Romanian car/factory and developed it.
And I agree that Logan is "a Renault with a Dacia sign" ... However it is fair to say that there is a difference between countries that had a brand (bought and developed by others nowadays) and countries that hadn't. Not big deal but still a difference ...

And why do the Logans are sold under the name of Renault in for example Iran, and other countries?

Because of the Hungarian conspiracy against Romania. :lol:

The Logan was a huge success, Romanian or not - that's irrelevant. We're cashing in, so as far as I'm concerned the Logan might as well be the creation of a green, three-titted alien from Mars.

It is branded in many countries as Dacia. The differences are due to Renault's marketing policy. Your post reeks of misplaced jealousy.

another source ...

Ford sole bidder to take over Daewoo Craiova in Romania

BUCHAREST (Thomson Financial) - Ford Motor Co is the sole candidate to take over Daewoo Craiova, Romania, according to Romanian Deputy Finance Minister Sebastian Vladescu, after the expiry of the period for tendering bids.
'The envelope containing Ford's bid will be opened on Monday, when the negotiations begin' with Ford, Vladescu told a news conference.
Two other car manufacturers, General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) and JC Russian Machines, had initially expressed an interest in buying the Romanian carmaker, but decided not to put forward any bids.

tf.TFN-Europe_newsdesk@thomson.com

and

cheers from Transilvania :cheers:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1199/51510319hx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6149/80546867ku4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6449/40468591qw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^
:nuts: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6595/33623957xw3.png (http://imageshack.us) :nuts:

No to już wiem gdzie się podziali byli agenci SB:lol: Trzeba rozszerzyć lustracje na całą Europę:lol:

^^ sint de partea ta ... poanta cu SB e tare de tot ... asa este :lol: :nuts:

Gosh, I hate these old cars! In Yugoslavia we had crap (Zastava), but at least their cars weren't ugly.

Btw, yesterday I saw in Ljubljana a car with the European-Romanian car plate for the first time; at least I think I hadn't seen it before. :cheers:

I really like nebunul's first pic, I'd take that one in red (not the Dacia) :D:D :cheers:

And why do the Logans are sold under the name of Renault in for example Iran, and other countries?
The Logan is badged as a Renault in countries where the Dacia marque is unknown. Furthermore, in Europe a cheap, basic car like the Logan might be regarded as devaluing the Renault brand, but this is not necessarily so in developing countries.

^^ Sorry if I was not clear. The situation of the Dacia and Skoda/Seat are not the same. Skoda/Seat cars are not VWs with a Skoda/Seat sign but the Logan is a Renault with a Dacia sign, nothing more. The same with the new Zastava 10, it is a Fiat Punto with a Zastava sign. Brands are cars are very diferent nowadays, hope you doesn't want to mean that the Chevrolet Kalos or Spark are American cars, even though the brand is American :)

Actually, Skoda/Seat/Audi/VW share a lot of components, e.g. engines, chassis and a lot of other interior or mechanical small parts (gauges, buttons, handles etc.). For me, the only differences among Seat Toledo, Skoda Octavia, Audi A4 and VW Golf are the body and dashboard design, sign on a front end, and mainly the pricetag. Then, If you want a cheaper Audi, buy Skoda or Seat...

You're quite right. They all buy their components from companies like Delphi Packard, Johnson Controls, etc... It has no sense to talk about national cars either. There are only brands that are traditionally connected with some nation...like Škoda - Czech, Volvo - Sweden...

Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, owner of russian car maker GAZ, plans to buy Jaguar, Land Rover and possibly Volvo.
In russian:
http://www.newsru.com/finance/28jul2007/derip.html
In german:
http://www.wiwo.de/pswiwo/fn/ww2/sfn/buildww/id/126/id/290894/fm/0/SH/0/depot/0/index.html

Hungary had its own cars and buses.
Here is balaton:
"The Balaton was a Hungarian microcar made by Székesfehérvári Motorjavitó Vállalat based in Székesfehérvár. which began production in 1956.

It was powered by a 250 cc 8 bhp Pannonia motorcycle engine. The rubber suspension was developed from an idea of Ernő Rubik who later became famous for his cube. The roof and doors were in one piece and hinged to give access to the interior.

The same company also made the Alba Regia microcar with which the Balaton shared most of its mechanical parts."
Then we had Ikarus:
"Ikarus is a bus manufacturer based in Budapest, Hungary. It was established in 1895 as Uhri Imre Kovács- és Kocsigyártó Üzeme (roughly: Uhri Imre's Blacksmith Workshop and Carriage Factory)."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/10/Ikarus_31%2C_front%2C_2.jpg/448px-Ikarus_31%2C_front%2C_2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b0/BUSCNG.JPG/800px-BUSCNG.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Ikarus280.jpg
Then we have Rába:
http://www.maxtonmu.hu/kepek/11_1
http://www.regioregia.hu/hirek_kepek/magazin_kepek/2005_12_autogy.jpg
http://www.fw.hu/tavolsag/teherautok/raba/cjn149_n.jpg
And this is Solo-Duo:
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/50.jpg
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/60.jpg
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/40.jpg
This is a brand new eco-friendly car,currently in prototype phase. The car can be disbanded in 15 minutes into 2 smaller cars.
The solo has solar panel roof, and consumes 1.1l/100km. Max speed is 150km/h. It weights 250kg, and 13,5 HP its engine's performance.
The duo also has solar panel roof. Performance is 27HP. It weights 500kg,consumes 1,5l/100km and it top speed is 170km/h.

The last one is interesting.how will it disband?
Post more rendings if you have.

The last one is interesting.how will it disband?
Post more rendings if you have.

Its not a transformer:) you have to disband it. According to the official site,it works like "lego". No further details are told,since it is still just a prototype. If they succeed,then this will make them rich. I believe the end of one car and the front of the other one can be taken off,and put inside the back...maybe.
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/solarteto.jpg
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/100.jpg
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/74.jpg
http://www.solo-duo.hu/images/56.jpg
http://www.hvg.hu/image.aspx?id=60eb0891-9a13-465d-b1f9-7f8e936f6598&view=1e92b492-81c2-49e9-93fb-75b77725adaf
http://www.hvg.hu/image.aspx?id=1993c2ed-f6ac-4071-9f5d-e3cc93a3b7bd&view=1e92b492-81c2-49e9-93fb-75b77725adaf
The site says that the prototype phase will end in 2008,and production will begin in the very same year. The last 2 pic are earlier renders,so at that time(last year), the car was not in as advanced phase as it is now.
The website is www.solo-duo.hu,but I think it is available in any other language beside hungarian.

Very interesting.I think it will be small and economical,so it will be a perfect city car.

Very interesting.I think it will be small and economical,so it will be a perfect city car.

Site says 2+1 passangers in small,6 in big.

I like the look on that car. It's one of the few that actually looks like it's out of a sci-fi movie. The idea behind it is great too. Hope to see it soon on the streets.:|

I like the look on that car. It's one of the few that actually looks like it's out of a sci-fi movie. The idea behind it is great too. Hope to see it soon on the streets.:|

If we can believe the developers,the cars will be either cheaper,or cost no more than current vehicles. The idea is great,but the security issues bother me.If it weights 500kg,everything will be high-tech ultra-light material. So whats with the energy-consuming parts that are used at accidents? And airbags? Many safety extras weight much. But there is a good thing..since the engine is small,and in 2 parts, it wont hold as big danger to passangers in case of an accident.
I've searched a little,and it is rumoured that there will be something like bycicle pedals inside, and with the solar panels, it will be possible to go 50km with out engine. Simply by pedalling and using sun.

A successor to famous russian car "Volga" was presented to public:
GAZ "Siber", based on Chrysler Sebring chasis recently bought by GAZ
~18.000$

http://rb.foto.radikal.ru/0708/2f/dca032b4790f.jpg

http://auto.lenta.ru/l/news/2007/08/29/siber/picture.jpg

http://rc.foto.radikal.ru/0708/af/424512448622.jpg

Looks great for a GAZ. :) Any interior shots?

I like this IKARUS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b0/BUSCNG.JPG/800px-BUSCNG.JPG

That's the project of the first Bulgarian car,branded "Universe".
The engine is from Smart 4/4.The car is made from the Smart 4/4's platform.the suspension is also from Smart,but some of the parts and pieces are Bulgarian.The volume is 1.5l and the horse-power is 105


I hope this project turns real!

I like this IKARUS
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b0/BUSCNG.JPG/800px-BUSCNG.JPG

I like it too! Too bad Ikarus is on the verge of dissolution.

Ikarus is on the verge of dissolution.
Is it? Who owns it now? What's the story?

Is it? Who owns it now? What's the story?

The story began after the fall of the wall. No-one wanted to buy old buses,and Ikarus failed to create a modern one,that is liked by the market.
It closed down its factory in Budapest in 2000,and at Székesfehérvár in 2004.
In 2006,some guy called Széles Gábor bought the company,and has plans for new buses and a production of 2-400 buses here.A capacity of 1-2000 is planned in Russia,and ~10000 in China.
the american branch,called American IKARUS was sold in 1997.
I believe what you have seen on the other picture is made there,because the last made here is this type,made in the last big order in 1998:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/hu/7/78/Ikarus_412_gyors7.jpg

Sorry to hear this!
Some companies from your latitudes turned around after the collapse and succeeded! For example, Skoda!

Sorry to hear this!
Some companies from your latitudes turned around after the collapse and succeeded! For example, Skoda!

2-400 buses are nothing..back then,Ikarus had 10000 or more employees.
In 1971, over 100,000 buses were manufactured and sales increased year-by-year. By 1973, Ikarus became the world's fourth largest manufacturer.

We have some Ikarus trolleybuses, like the bus in that photo, only it's not a bus. :) And some older Ikarus buses... I saw you have both the types in Budapest too. Ikarus is very good... sad to hear it has problems... actually I already know that for some time now... but it's still sad. :(

We have some Ikarus trolleybuses, like the bus in that photo, only it's not a bus. :) And some older Ikarus buses... I saw you have both the types in Budapest too. Ikarus is very good... sad to hear it has problems... actually I already know that for some time now... but it's still sad. :(

Ikarus is very good,IMO. Old buses dont really need extra attention,although they are like 30+ years old. As the producer of Ikaruses,it is hard to find buses in the field of mass transit here that are not Ikaruses:)Maybe some Volvos,now that Ikarus is gone...
A trolley here:
http://www.vasutbarat.hu/magazin/vb2005-1/ik412t-1_tn.jpg
larger pic:http://www.vasutbarat.hu/magazin/vb2005-1/ik412t-1.jpg

Sorry to hear this!
Some companies from your latitudes turned around after the collapse and succeeded! For example, Skoda!


No only SKODA. Czech bus producer Karosa, newly renamed for Iveco Czech Republic, announced that they will produce up to 2700 buses this year. More than 80 percent of the output will be exported on the western markets.

Second example. Skoda DT, recently bought hungarian trolley-bus producer Ganz.

Both producer are in good economic condition.

KAROSA (http://www.karosa.cz/main.php?show=products&language=english)
SKODA holding (don´t change with Skoda Auto) (http://www.skoda.cz/en/skoda-holding)

Serbian Ikarbus is gonna to export first 20 minibuses to Italy, in cooperation with „Bredamenarinibus” from Bologna, Italians will redesign current low floor busses from Ikarbus. They both plans to produce minibuses per year :yes:

That s how current ikarbus minibus look like:
http://www.autobusi.net/img/slike%20autobusi/SSA40652.jpg

http://www.autobusi.net/img/slike%20autobusi/SSA40653.jpg

And that s the improved and redesigned bus, it has a complete electronic information system, 2 airconditions for driver and ppl in bus, electronic platform for disabled people, 3 security cameras inside:
http://www.politika.co.yu/eaadmin/catpics/N_piJYyNFdu1o0fOjV9LYi9BwVConjgbdFGrU.gif

Belgrade uses this busses for express transport system.

What is "Serbian Ikarus"?

What is "Serbian Ikarus"?
Ikarbus. http://www.ikarbus.co.yu/

Serbian Ikarbus is gonna to export first 20 minibuses to Italy, in cooperation with „Bredamenarinibus” from Bologna

Nice, I bought some of their stocks recently :cheers:

Old new s …

Ford (F) expands Detroit's foreign footprint
Aug 29th 2007 5:49PM, The Journal

The Journal reported in July that Ford plans to invest nearly $1 billion into Romanian car maker Automobile Craiova if its wins (they won :banana: ) a tender to acquire a 72.4% stake in the company. The Romanian government hopes to wrap-up the deal by September 1st.

I hope this I'll get my new car - Ford Fiesta - by Sept. 10... if they buy the plant in Craiova, I have one more reason to be happy. :)

BUCHAREST (Thomson Financial) - The Romanian government will adopt a special law guaranteeing the conditions required by Ford Motor Co for its acquisition of the Daewoo factory in Craiova, southern Romania, according to the agency for privatisations (AVAS).

'The lawyers for the two parties met on Sunday to discuss the main elements of the deal to be included in this law,' AVAS said.
Secretary of State for Finance, Sebastian Vladescu, said Ford 'has not asked for tax advantages, but for a clarification of all the issues linked to the factory, whether these concern debts owed to the State or responsibility for vehicles produced by the former owner which are still in circulation.'
'Ford wants a clean factory,' said Vladescu in an interview with the news agency NewsIn.
The authorities did not disclose the amount offered by Ford to acquire a 72.4 pct stake in the company operating the factory, saying the financial terms had not yet been publicised.
Last August, the Romanian government bought for 60 mln usd the 51 pct stake in the factory held by Daewoo, the South Korean carmaker that went bankrupt in 1999.

Daewoo, which had become the majority shareholder in 1994 in exchange for an investment of 156 mln usd, had benefited at the time from a special law, called the 'Daewoo law', guaranteeing an exemption from customs duties for seven years and exemption from taxes on profits for five years.

GAZ Tiger

http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n17/tiger/800/28.jpg
http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n17/tiger/800/2.jpg
http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n17/tiger/800/27.jpg

New Lada:

http://rg.foto.radikal.ru/0708/df/4a53458cd128.jpg

http://rf.foto.radikal.ru/0708/51/80399d92ce7c.jpg

New Lada:

http://rg.foto.radikal.ru/0708/df/4a53458cd128.jpg

http://rf.foto.radikal.ru/0708/51/80399d92ce7c.jpg

nice but looks like typical car from Asia

That Lada doesnt look like the old cube..whats with you,russians?:lol:

New Lada:

http://rg.foto.radikal.ru/0708/df/4a53458cd128.jpg

http://rf.foto.radikal.ru/0708/51/80399d92ce7c.jpg

It looks like a Ford to me...

nice but looks like typical car from Asia
Really? Asian cars are gooood! :yes: :naughty:

Its not based on any Western or Asian model. Being developed jointly by AvtoVAZ and Magna

http://img.auto.mail.ru/pic/editor/Image/gallery/automatic_upload/LadaCMoskva/IMG_1.JPG

It looks like a Ford to me...
My thoughts exactly!:) I think the interior, especially the steering wheel looks like Ford. Almost like a crossover between a Fiesta and a Mondeo.:nuts: But the car looks very good. Congrats to Lada.:cheers:

I guess youre right - it does look like Ford Focus a little

Some new buses from Russia:

PAZ
http://www.yarkamp.ru/images/paz_3237.jpg

http://freemarket.kiev.ua/images_goods/PAZ/PAZ-4230--03--06-PAZ-4230-06--5-9-D-180-Hp.jpg


Volzhanin

http://foto.rambler.ru/public/hamsterw/5/CIMG2185/CIMG2185-webbig.jpg

http://www.omnibus.ru/N12.2002/fotograf/foto21.jpg

LIAZ

http://self.bus.ru/images/news/mims_2006.jpg

http://www.techincom.ru/img/cont/liaz_5292.jpg

^^ I like the LiAZ 6213 - big bus

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7408/liaz7ih1.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2328/01ih6.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9420/04zr3.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5537/05tf3.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1980/03cn5.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9210/02gv1.jpg

this is ugly,IMO...or its just the perspective?
http://freemarket.kiev.ua/images_goods/PAZ/PAZ-4230--03--06-PAZ-4230-06--5-9-D-180-Hp.jpg

^^ That is a really crap looking bus

What happened to the good old Lada :D Ladas look now like cars in the 21th century :cheers: These bus producers should work more on design ;)

Only way a bus looks good if it a giant brick:) And loosing that cube image of Lada..do you guys expect anybody to buy a non-cube Lada? what will happen to the Lada fanclubs?:lol: :lol:
http://ladafansite.extra.hu/
http://ladafansite.extra.hu/pics/usercar/fodree.jpg
http://ladafansite.extra.hu/pics/usercar/pestilaci.jpg
http://ladafansite.extra.hu/pics/usercar/buki5.JPG

GAZ Tiger

http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2002/n17/tiger/800/28.jpg

Is there a serial production already? Looks great:banana:

http://www.policeman.sk/Police%20vehicles/Aligator%20shadow1.jpg

http://www.ron-del.net/ba/05-02-25_bush_101.jpg

http://www.militaryfoto.sk/image/idee/aligator-3.jpg

Slovak made SUV "aligator"

^^ Nice!!! Looks like a ... sad ... aligator:cheers:

^^ Hehe

Too much driving .. stop for a meal ... :nuts:


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6038/51704342ae4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ I would chech its MOT :lol:

Too much driving .. stop for a meal ... :nuts:


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6038/51704342ae4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ I would chech its MOT :lol:

That is the future... Only 1HP but fully bio powered :D BTW do they have McOat for horses?:)

^^ That is wack!! I'm showing my friends that picture.:banana:

http://www.policeman.sk/Police%20vehicles/Aligator%20shadow1.jpg

http://www.ron-del.net/ba/05-02-25_bush_101.jpg

http://www.militaryfoto.sk/image/idee/aligator-3.jpg

Slovak made SUV "aligator"

^^ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: should i be afraid of them?!:lol:

^^ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: should i be afraid of them?!:lol:

If You are wise man -then fuck + hell YEAH YOU should be afraid! :cheers:

http://www.3dstudio.cz/galerie/obrazova/img_biggest/2746.jpg

http://www.ffa.vutbr.cz/~xvgereg/portfolio_files/rapid2.jpg

http://www.natankuj.sk/mm/article/256.jpg

http://www.natankuj.sk/mm/article/257.jpg

http://www.natankuj.sk/mm/article/258.jpg

http://www.natankuj.sk/mm/article/259.jpg

http://www.natankuj.sk/mm/article/262.jpg

Škoda future vehicles design.

At first: hello to everybody, as this is my 1st post on SSC! I hope all images & links are gonna work :P
Now, here's a bit more about polish automobile industry than photos of Leopard linked above. There are several plants in Poland producing vehicles. Estimated +800k pcs of cars and vans are going to be made this year, most for export.
Warsaw based FSO plant (ex Daewoo, currently owned by AvtoZaz) makes good known Matiz and Lanos. In late 90's Daewoo cars were among bestsellers, so they are still very common in Poland. You can find one nearly behind every corner, I own Lanos (nonexiting, but reliable and durable car) myself. Now they are regarded as dated and sales are very poor. Most of production is exported to Ukraine (most popular import car) and Russia (3rd most popular foreign car). Soon production of Chevrolet Aveo will start for all european markets.
In Poznań VW makes Caddy and T5 models.
In Bielsko-Biała and Tychy there are 2 Fiat plants. First one makes vehicles no more, second is birthplace for Seicento, Nuova 500 (very sexy!) and Panda, soon production of new Ford Ka starts there.
In Gliwice GM-Opel makes Agila, Astra II, Astra III saloon, Zafira II and I belive also Astravan.
During 90's several other models were assembled and/or produced in Poland: FSO Polonez, Fiat 126 (Maluch), Cinquecento, Uno, Siena, Palio, Bravo/Brava, Opel Astra I, Vectra B, Daewoo Nexia (some of You know it as Cielo), Tico, Espero, Nubira, Leganza, Ford Escort, Transit, Skoda Favorit, Felicia, Octavia, VW Passat B5, Audi A6, Peugeot 405, LDV Convoy and maybe sth I forgot :) Most of them are still common on the road.
About what's common on the roads - everything :P Variety of older and late european models can be seen on polish roads and streets. Of course Ferraris or Bentleys are very rare, but brand new Porsche Cayenne parked by 8 yrs old Rover 400 and 15 yrs old Peugeot 106 is typical sight. Germans are the most popular. Japs are common too, mostly young Toyotas, Nissans and Hondas. Unlike Daewoo other koreans were never bestsellers, but still they can be seen quite offen. What you can't see offen are "eastern block"cars. Ladas, Yugos etc. are rare/extremly rare except Skodas (Felicia and later models are popular) and few Dacia Logans plus Trabants, that slowly become cult-cars (from 100$ on the road :D). And of course many Polish Fiats and Polonezes are still going strong.
Beside producing passenger cars trucks, buses and utility vehicles are made in Poland.
Volvo Bus$Trucks has a plant in Wrocław.
Man-Star recently discontinued to produce vehicles and now only supplies parts for ohter plants.
In Lublin Intrall produces Lublin commercial and Honker terrain vehicles.
Army operated Honker:
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1668/honkerpr2.jpg
Lublin:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/White_Lublin_Intrall_b.jpg
And this monster's going to be made soon:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Lubo.jpg
When it comes to buses four polish brands exist today.
Solaris, Solbus, Autosan, Jelcz ("yeltsch"). Some photos below.
Jelcz Tantus operating in my city:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/PKM_Katowice_205.jpg
Autosan police vehicle LOL:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7927/autosanfo7.jpg
Solbus C95 (not sure if it's still in producition):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Solbus_C95.jpg
One of many exported Solaris buses (Ganz trolleybus in Sweden):
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6092/ganztrolleyav4.jpg
Blood collecting ambulance in my city - Solaris Vacanza:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/3/3d/Wikivacanza.jpg

Beside vehicle assembly plants there is number of supplying factories making parts for vehicles mede in and out of Poland, starting from fluid tanks, ending with complete engines.

And finally, the most superhightech, stylish, fast and luxury vehicle made in Poland - Melex:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Melex.jpg
:banana:

:bash:

I like Solaris buses and their design!

I totally agree!! Peacefull, a bit classic design will age slowly. Don't use public transportation a lot, but always find taking ride with Solaris pleasant. Here's a bit more of Solaris buses:
Alpino for Munich, Germany:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8741/alpinoco9.jpg
Ganz in Budapest, Hungary:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4062/ganzbudapesztmq1.png
Trollino trolleybus in Gdynia, Poland:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9354/trollino12tzt6.jpg
Urbino in Ostrava, Czech:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4143/urbinonn7.jpg
Urbino 10, guess where?? :) :
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9114/urbino10hp5.jpg
Urbino 18 in Dresden, Germany:
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/816/urbino18hc8.jpg
and the same in Poznań, Poland:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6098/urbino18poznann4.jpg

Company's website: http://www.solarisbus.pl/
Polska, english, deutsche, русская.

And some Solbuses - good vehicles, but worse design:
Solcity:
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5021/solbussolcityiy4.png
Soltour:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4062/solbussoltourur8.png
the same:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2803/solbussoltourbackkz6.png
Solway:
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9195/solbussolwayrf4.png

That new Lada looks very good, it's not Volvo, but not a Zhiguli either. Is it Russian engineered? Who owns ВАЗ these days?

Canadian Magna is consulting AvtoVAZ and helping with the engineering for their new models

I believe Rosoboronexport (government controlled) controls AvtoVAZ, but cant remember for sure

http://www.mcguirewoods.com/news-resources/publications/aviation/images/russia-flag.jpg

Man-Star recently discontinued to produce vehicles and now only supplies parts for ohter plants.

You were very thorough in your post, but you forgot to mention that MAN trucks will start coming out from another, newly constructed €100 million MAN factory in Niepolomice as soon as next month. :)

http://www.man-mn.co.uk/mn-prod/man2/master/datapool/imagepool/700/einstieg_lkw2.jpg

Canadian Magna is consulting AvtoVAZ and helping with the engineering for their new models

I believe Rosoboronexport (government controlled) controls AvtoVAZ, but cant remember for sure

I thought it was Oleg Deripaska?

Deripaska owns Gaz group, I dont think he has a large share in AvtoVAZ

New … Dacia Logan & Renault Clio = Renault SANDERO :nuts:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4930/santero2ur8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/11/santero3wf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Also new (2008) Dacia Logan pick up :cheers:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6426/graf03kg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New … Dacia Logan & Renault Clio = Renault SANDERO :nuts:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4930/santero2ur8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/11/santero3wf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Also new (2008) Dacia Logan pick up :cheers:

this is hatchback? or combi?
in these photo is not visible.
but nice car.

^^ rubbish

^^ rubbish

rubbish sells good...and that's the idea of any business...to make money:bash:

"You were very thorough in your post, but you forgot to mention that MAN trucks will start coming out from another, newly constructed €100 million MAN factory in Niepolomice as soon as next month. :)"

Hehe, I knew I forgot sth :P Thanks!

Have you guys ever heared of TemSA or BMC? I read several times that both sell many vehicles in Europe in the last years.

http://www.bimsa.com.tr/bimsaeng/images/uploaded/ContentImages/Temsa_logo.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Temsa_Diamond_Bus_in_Mannheim_100_7800.jpg/800px-Temsa_Diamond_Bus_in_Mannheim_100_7800.jpg

http://www.temsa.ru/safari/hd/galari/006m.jpg

http://www.temsa.ru/i/METROPOL_IC.jpg

http://www.temsa.ru/i/opalin.jpg

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http://www.temsa.ru/i/turmalinic.jpg





http://www.turkcadcam.net/rapor/bmc-megastar/bmc-logo.jpg

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this is hatchback? or combi?
in these photo is not visible.
but nice car.

It's a hatchback. I've read on totalcar.hu that it will be sold in Brazil from December 2007 and in Argentina and other countries of that region from 2008, but it won't come out from South America, so won't be sold here :( (it would be successful here IMO). Anyway the Logan pick-up looks good :cheers:

Kamaz-43269 for the Ministry of Defence
http://www.webpark.ru/uploads51/kamaz_0.jpg

http://www.webpark.ru/uploads51/kamaz_2.jpg

http://www.webpark.ru/uploads51/kamaz_3.jpg

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It's a hatchback. I've read on totalcar.hu that it will be sold in Brazil from December 2007 and in Argentina and other countries of that region from 2008, but it won't come out from South America, so won't be sold here :( (it would be successful here IMO). Anyway the Logan pick-up looks good :cheers:

^^ Renault could make Sandero in Romania :cheers:
www.zf.ro

France's Renault group could start manufacturing the Sandero model in addition to the Logan model in Pitesti, which was launched in South America this year. "The model was initially aimed at the South American market, but will also be sold in Europe under the Dacia brand. It is only natural that a model for sale in Europe should be manufactured in Europe. Romania is the only low-cost country in the region that is already making the Logan model" Renaults' chief executive explained to those attending a roundtable discussion. Even so, some of the models sold in Europe may come from Renault's factory in Curitiba, Brazil, where they are currently manufactured. "If we need to, we could also sell cars made in Brazil, but as a general rule we prefer the cars we sell to be manufactured locally or regionally, because of customs duties," Ghosn added. He did not say, however, whether the Sandero name would be kept for Europe, but if the Renault management decided to bring the Brazil-made model onto the European market, it would be the first time a Dacia car was made abroad. "Romania is now a low-cost destination and is a competitive country in the short term, but needs to be careful. The accession to the European Union has put pressure on cost increases and under the circumstances other destinations could compete and draw the investments. Jobs move depending on the low-cost infrastructure, on facilities, currently it's all about global competition. You have to be low-cost and competitive," Ghosn added during the roundtable discussion.

"Have you guys ever heared of TemSA or BMC? I read several times that both sell many vehicles in Europe in the last years."

Never heard of it so far. Only turkish vehicles to be seen in Poland are those from Toyota, Honda, Fiat and Renault plants (Corolla, Civic, Albea, Thalia etc.). But i've just read, that TEMSAs and BMCs are imported to Poland for several months, so perhaps i'll se one soon :)

I also read, that MAN is going to transfer all buses production from Saltzgitter (germany) to Poland. It allready got one plant in Poland, soon opens another (mentioned above truck's plant), Scania and Volvo make their buses here too (i forgot to add it earlier). For today Poland is third largest bus producer in EU, behind Germany and Sweden, some say it may be first within few years. Most of them are foreign brands, but still it's a thing to be happy for - many people got job :)

"Have you guys ever heared of TemSA or BMC? I read several times that both sell many vehicles in Europe in the last years."

Never heard of it so far. Only turkish vehicles to be seen in Poland are those from Toyota, Honda, Fiat and Renault plants (Corolla, Civic, Albea, Thalia etc.). But i've just read, that TEMSAs and BMCs are imported to Poland for several months, so perhaps i'll se one soon :)

I also read, that MAN is going to transfer all buses production from Saltzgitter (germany) to Poland. It allready got one plant in Poland, soon opens another (mentioned above truck's plant), Scania and Volvo make their buses here too (i forgot to add it earlier). For today Poland is third largest bus producer in EU, behind Germany and Sweden, some say it may be first within few years. Most of them are foreign brands, but still it's a thing to be happy for - many people got job :)

Thank you for the reply. Well these you mentioned above aren't Turkish but just produced in Turkey as you know so they don't count ;) I am also waiting for the first Solaris here :D

Btw yesterday the first Mercedes Capacitys arrived in Istanbul. They are damn sexy!! :master:

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/2229/21389363qn8.jpg

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8413/74747872ax4.jpg

^^ Nice :cheers: ... look like articulated Citaros …

Excatly what I said when I saw these new babes. If you look carefully the Capacity is different. A nicer design. Maybe the new Citaro will look like the Capacity?
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6963/mustafanoyan05dec13066aon7.jpg


I guess you all know the Conecto. In eastern Europe it was as popular as Ikarus :D The new Conecto will be a copy of Citaro but the price remain the same ;)

The factory in Turkey is upgrading now. I am sure many municipalities in eastern Europe will love this baby. ;)
http://www.stadtbus2.de/nachrichten/n_foto_0611_mb-3.jpg

^^ Renault could make Sandero in Romania :cheers:
www.zf.ro

France's Renault group could start manufacturing the Sandero model in addition to the Logan model in Pitesti, which was launched in South America this year. "The model was initially aimed at the South American market, but will also be sold in Europe under the Dacia brand. It is only natural that a model for sale in Europe should be manufactured in Europe. Romania is the only low-cost country in the region that is already making the Logan model" Renaults' chief executive explained to those attending a roundtable discussion. Even so, some of the models sold in Europe may come from Renault's factory in Curitiba, Brazil, where they are currently manufactured. "If we need to, we could also sell cars made in Brazil, but as a general rule we prefer the cars we sell to be manufactured locally or regionally, because of customs duties," Ghosn added. He did not say, however, whether the Sandero name would be kept for Europe, but if the Renault management decided to bring the Brazil-made model onto the European market, it would be the first time a Dacia car was made abroad. "Romania is now a low-cost destination and is a competitive country in the short term, but needs to be careful. The accession to the European Union has put pressure on cost increases and under the circumstances other destinations could compete and draw the investments. Jobs move depending on the low-cost infrastructure, on facilities, currently it's all about global competition. You have to be low-cost and competitive," Ghosn added during the roundtable discussion.

Nice to hear that, these news have not reached me yet :D :cheers:

^^ rubbish

Its not brilliant but ...not that ^^ bad ...

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2936/ddddhy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/418/eeeeeb4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ Hope they'll equip Logan with that enterior, I don't really like the present one.

^^ Logan is not far from it … very similar actually
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2295/dacialoganinteriorvu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Logan Stepe … looks better IMO

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8856/stepe1cg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6583/logansteppeinside1zj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Logan interior sucks big time.:) The Renault guys should take a good look at Ford or even Hyundai, see how a resonably priced car can have a decent interior that looks fresh yet serious. :) Even the Renault Megane looks a bit shitty...

Ford Fiesta is a prime example of this, IMO.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6065/fordfiestazetec5dr6.jpg

^^ rubbish

Show us a Polish car then!

Hehehehe we're taking serious business ... :banana: :cheers:

Automobile Craiova, Ford ink privitisation contract
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Romanian Authorities recently inked the privitisation contract for Automobile Craiova with American producer Ford at the Auto Lounge in Frankfurt for 57 million Euro. The document was signed by Sebastian Vladescu, the president of the Committee of Privatisation and state secretary in the Ministry of Economy and Finances, and by the chief-negotiator of Ford, Lyle Waters, Rompres and Nine o'clock reported on September 13. The event was attended by Romanian Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu, by the US ambassador in Romania, Nicholas Taubman, as well as by Brent Valmar, on behalf of the Vehicle Producers' and Importers' Association.
Tariceanu underlined after signing the document that Romania is offered an opportunity to become the greatest producing country in vehicle industry from Eastern Europe. "The transaction is an advantage to both parts," Tariceanu was quoted as saying. Commenting on the privatisation, the prime minister said that now when Ford bought the majority stake of SC Automobile Craiova SA, one can speak of the first American industrial investment in Romania, Rompres reported on September 11. "From now on we shall be able to speak of the first American industrial investment in Romania," said Tariceanu.
President of Ford Europe, John Fleming, also mentioned that the American group has taken over a factory "he had been always dreaming of,” and appreciated the great evolving of the negotiations, given the fact that both Romanian authorities and Ford representatives wanted the transaction to be successful. During the next four years, Ford will be able to sell its shares without any approval from AVAS, to a firm which is almost completely owned by the company and which will respect the obligations assumed in the sale-purchase contract, Mediafax reported.
Ford will sell outside Romania 80-90 percent of the production that will be made in Craiova, it was reported. The number of vehicles will reach 48,000 units in the first year of production, 245,000 units in 2011 and 300,000 units in 2013, it was reported. The American carmaker undertook to make direct investments worth 675 million in upgrading the works, and to increase the personnel number. Also, the government passed the special bill on Automobile Craiova. The government approved the memorandum referring to the privatisation contract and the special draft law on the privatisation of the Craiova-based factory The Romanian prime minister made it clear that they aimed at making an industrial project that should have an impact on the increase in the number of jobs and the growth of the national economy. Having this aim in view, by taking over the task book, Ford pledged to produce 3,000 motorcars a year at least, to buy components and services worth one billion Euro from the Romanian market, and, by 2012, to double the number of jobs from 3,500 to 7,000. This way, Romania would become the most important motorcar producing country in Southern Europe, he added. Ford will have in Romania, starting in the third year, an annual turnover of at least two billion, which means that it will pay to budget taxes of hundreds of millions of Euro, and will contribute to the equilibration of the commercial balance, declared the president of the privatisation commission, Sebastian Vladescu. "Ford pointed out that the cars manufactured at Craiova will be for export, so we shall have a net balance of at least 500 million Euro per year," he was quoted as adding.

http://www.neurope.eu/articles/77814.php

Two months ago...
Automotive News Europe
July 11, 2007
UPDATED: 07/11/07 6:23 A.M.

by Jesse Synder


General Motors is considering building a new assembly plant in the East, a top company executive told Automotive News Europe.

"We still need some capacity in central and eastern Europe," Chris Lacey, GM's executive director for central and eastern Europe, said in a phone interview today.

Lacey identified seven new-EU countries as potential sites for a greenfield plant: Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia.

All seven have joined the EU within the last three years.

"Where does GM want to build?" Lacey said. "Where people buy cars, where a good, educated work force is available, and where you have the ability to build up a parts supply chain. So any of these countries."

GM will either have sole ownership of the plant or form a partnership with a local manufacturer.

GM already has assembly plants in Poland and Russia and joint ventures or contract manufacturing agreements in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. GM aims to build 70,000 units a year at its St. Petersburg plant by 2008, up from its original plan of 25,000 by that same year.

Lacey said GM needs the capacity to keep up with rapidly increasing sales in central and eastern Europe. In Lacey's region — the new EU, the Balkans, Russia and the republics of the former Soviet Union — GM boosted first-half sales volume 42 percent to 230,113 cars compared with the same period last year.

And the outcome...
GM to make Poland big Chevrolet producer


Published: 18, 2007 at 11:33 AM
Print story Email to a friend Font size:WARSAW, , 18 (UPI) -- U.S. automaker General Motors announced plans to rebuild the FSO manufacturing plant in Poland and make it Europe’s biggest Chevrolet producer.

Peter Forster, chief executive officer of General Motors Europe, said the company wants to make cars in Poland for the next 25 years or more, a Polish Radio report said. GM plans to produce 400,000 Chevrolet vehicles annually.

Earlier this month, GM announced it paid $254.5 million for 40 percent of FSO shares.

GM is prepared to pay to the Polish government $192 million that the state invested into bailing out the FSO plant, after the South Korean Daewoo car producer went bankrupt in 2001, the Rzeczpospolita daily said.

The FSO plant in Warsaw was manufacturing Polonez cars, Poland’s main auto under the communist regime and the factory retained leadership in car production after Daewoo bought it in 1995.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Business/2007/09/18/gm_to_make_poland_big_chevrolet_producer/1539/

It'll be a nice boost to our car industry! In 2006 Poland produced 715 thousand cars and in 2007 every single month there has been record increase in production. In one, maybe two years we'll pass the million threshold and when the Chevrolet investment kicks in, it'll be closer to 1,5 million :cheers:

Hehehehe we're taking serious business ... :banana: :cheers:

Automobile Craiova, Ford ink privitisation contract
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^^ Ford to make 300,000 cars in 2012 or pay fine :banana:
www.zf.ro

According to the contract signed between Ford Motor Company and the Romanian state, the carmaker must expand its production capacities at the Automobile Craiova plant and could face a penalty of up to 28.5m euros for any breach of the contract.

Ford is obligated to pay half the purchasing price of the majority stake in Automobile Craiova (28.5m euros) to the State Asset Resolution Agency (AVAS) if it winds up or modifies the core business of the plant in Craiova in the first four years after the deal has been signed. The contract signed by Ford with the Romanian state is the first privatisation contract made public.

What the...?forcing a company to expand? What kind of blackmail is this?

Its part of the contract. Its not "forcing". Its called negotiation... If FORD did not like it they would have pulled out ... So it should be ... why get a foreign company in to fire your people ?! Get them in to invest and hire more people, create jobs, pay taxes etc

I understand,but I think expanding is a company's own business,not gov's. I think this is a strange addition to the contract...do you know about many cases,where expansion was compulsory?
Anyhow,its a good thing for the people.

^^ This is not strange ... because Ford bought the company from the gov on a small price also and it's important for the gov to have high production.

And it's strange that you didn't know that, your gov doesn't do in tha same way?

How is Ford forced in any way? This was a contract clause and last I've checked, nobody put a gun to their heads to sign the contract. They willingly accepted the terms.

^^ This is not strange ... because Ford bought the company from the gov on a small price also and it's important for the gov to have high production.

And it's strange that you didn't know that, your gov doesn't do in tha same way?

Not really. We give them tax breaks for like 5 years,subsidy in costs and such. The only instance I know of is between Stadler and MÁV. In the contract,if MÁV ordered 30+30 optional trains,and if the 2nd 30 is ordered ,Stadler is to build a structural factory and a commissioning plant in Hungary(they were ordered,so factory will come). Gov got rid of its major companies long ago,and it just dont get into such things. There are strange things here too,such as a biodiesel producing company in the vicinity of Mohács has to transport a given percentage of its goods by ships. Gov mostly goes for transportation or employment issues(cant fire anybody in a given amount of time,etc).

^^ There is this condition also (not to fire people etc.); so I suppose the production one - min 300.000 cars - is a bonus - clever negotiations :cheers: :banana:

^^ There is this condition also (not to fire people etc.); so I suppose the production one - min 300.000 cars - is a bonus - clever negotiations :cheers: :banana:

Yes it is. But what was the price? Low taxes for longer time? Subsidiary?

They've underpaid for the factory.

They've underpaid for the factory.

The opposition will use that during elections. I know,ours does this all the time whenever gov sells/buys/invests in anything.

Yes but Romania was losing money anyway as the gov just bought it from Daewoo – It is estimated they (Daewoo) owe us 1 billion$ in unpaid bills

Fuck what they payed for the factory! We're talking about 300.000 cars/year by 2010, cars made by one of the biggest car manufacturers, 90% of which will go to export, positive effects on other related industries and businesses, positive effects on the regional infrastructure and on the region overall, more jobs for highly qualified workers and of course a host of other benefits.

Still thinking of the price? :)

DACIA LOGAN - the top-selling new car in Central and Eastern Europe

....
“Central and Eastern Europe is currently the star performer of the overall European car market,” says Nasir Shah, Global Business Development Director at JATO.:cheers:
....
The Dacia Logan was the top-selling new car in Central and Eastern Europe in the first half of 2007 with 52,750 units sold, ahead of the Skoda Fabia (41,227 units), Skoda Octavia (33,483 units, up 7.7%), Opel Astra (16,442 units, up 19.3%) and Ford Focus (14,909 units, up 14.8%).:cheers:
...http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/26-09-07_12

^^ ^^
:cheers:

DACIA LOGAN - the top-selling new car in Central and Eastern Europe

....
“Central and Eastern Europe is currently the star performer of the overall European car market,” says Nasir Shah, Global Business Development Director at JATO.:cheers:
....
The Dacia Logan was the top-selling new car in Central and Eastern Europe in the first half of 2007 with 52,750 units sold, ahead of the Skoda Fabia (41,227 units), Skoda Octavia (33,483 units, up 7.7%), Opel Astra (16,442 units, up 19.3%) and Ford Focus (14,909 units, up 14.8%).:cheers:
...http://www.autoindustry.co.uk/news/26-09-07_12

Except in Hungary... Very few Dacias running around... :ohno:

Fuck what they payed for the factory! We're talking about 300.000 cars/year by 2010, cars made by one of the biggest car manufacturers, 90% of which will go to export, positive effects on other related industries and businesses, positive effects on the regional infrastructure and on the reagion overall, more jobs for highly qualified workers and of course a host of other benefits.

Still thinking of the price? :)

^^ Absolutely agreed with Cosmin... :okay:Romanian government made a f**kin' good deal... :applause:

Skoda raises production target by 6.2%

7th June 2007

Skoda Auto has raised its 2007 production target by 6.2 percent from 580,000 to 616,000 units, director member Martin Jahn has told the Czech economic weekly Ekonom, in an interview summarised by Interactive Investor.

Production will be ramped up further at Skoda Auto’s main Mlada Boleslav plant in the Czech Republic, and capacity at its Vrchlabi plant in the north of the country is to be expanded, but CKD plants in India, Ukraine and Russia will also expand production within the new total using Czech-supplied main components. About half of Skoda's 60 bln koruna (2,1bln euro) investment planned over the next five years will be directed toward renewing and increasing production capacity at Skoda’s Czech plants.

They also announced that by this investments, they want increase total amounth of produced cars up to 1milion in year 2010.

Second great news is, that SKODA YETI is going to produce.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

http://img.yauto.cz/tapety/Skoda_Yeti_2005_3.jpg

http://img.yauto.cz/tapety/Skoda_Yeti_2005_2.jpg

It looks like... Yeti.

I don't like Skoda's new designs. The new Fabia looks like a failed Mini. The previous version was much better. Here's hoping they don't screw up the Octavia.

Except in Hungary... Very few Dacias running around... :ohno:

And Poland too. I personally haven't seen a single Dacia Logan last time i were Poland. I guess they must rock in South-Eastern Europe then.

Oh yeah, Serbia is full of them.:yes:

Skoda raises production target by 6.2%

7th June 2007

Skoda Auto has raised its 2007 production target by 6.2 percent from 580,000 to 616,000 units, director member Martin Jahn has told the Czech economic weekly Ekonom, in an interview summarised by Interactive Investor.

Production will be ramped up further at Skoda Auto’s main Mlada Boleslav plant in the Czech Republic, and capacity at its Vrchlabi plant in the north of the country is to be expanded, but CKD plants in India, Ukraine and Russia will also expand production within the new total using Czech-supplied main components. About half of Skoda's 60 bln koruna (2,1bln euro) investment planned over the next five years will be directed toward renewing and increasing production capacity at Skoda’s Czech plants.

They also announced that by this investments, they want increase total amounth of produced cars up to 1milion in year 2010.

Second great news is, that SKODA YETI is going to produce.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

nice..........

And Poland too. I personally haven't seen a single Dacia Logan last time i were Poland. I guess they must rock in South-Eastern Europe then.

I agree not many in Slovakia either..I saw only few of them here like 3 or 4 cars

Except in Hungary... Very few Dacias running around... :ohno:

Well, here are the statistics of Dacias sold in Europe (Romania is not included), first half 2007:

1. France/Franciaország: 14.915 (11.385) [1.1%]
2. Germany/Németország: 8.357 (2.900) [0.5%]
3. Spain and Canarias/Spanyolország és Kanári-szigetek: 4.153 (3.693) [0.4%]
4. Italy/Olaszország: 2.621 (627) [0.2%]
5. Poland/Lengyelország: 1.150 (829) [0.7%]
6. Belgium és Luxemburg: 1.119 (405) [0.3%]
7. Balcan states/Balkáni államok: 871 (2.615!) [2.2%]
8. Czech Rep./Csehország: 843 (825) [0.9%]
9. Netherlands/Hollandia: 803 (459) [0.2%]
10. Croatia/Horvátország: 600 (518) [1.3%]
11. Austria/Ausztria: 553 (373) [0.3%]
12. Hungary/Magyarország: 531 (723) [0.6%]
13. Baltic states/Balti országok: 409 (288) [0.8%]
14. Switzerland/Svájc: 408 (247) [0.3%]
15. Slovakia/Szlovákia: 312 (590) [0.8%]
16. Slovenia/Szlovénia: 173 (131) [0.4%]

first half 2007 (first half 2006) [market share]

Source: www.loganklub.hu

^^ ^^
What does Balcan states mean?

I'll give you the sales for DACIA - Bulgaria, sold 1973 units (6.18% of the total market), period January-August 2007.

info: http://www.svab.bg/Frame/Index.htm

^^ ^^
What does Balcan states mean?
DACIA - Bulgaria, sold 1973 units (6.18% of the total market), period January-August 2007.
info: http://www.svab.bg/Frame/Index.htm

I think Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bosnia and Albania. This may not be the most accurate list ever created... It seems that Bulgaria is missed out too... If someone has a better list, feel free to share it. The Hungarian figures for the list are exact, I've read that in other sources.

And Poland too. I personally haven't seen a single Dacia Logan last time i were Poland. I guess they must rock in South-Eastern Europe then.

They seem to rock in WEurope and Romania ... if we were to go by BND's list

What are car sales like in Eastern Europe? I know in Ukraine it's a booming industry, in August of this year 52,000 cars were sold, 53% more compared to the same time last year. This year 500,000 are planned to be sold compared to a little more than 400,000 last year.

In Bulgaria, the sales of new cars is booming, too, but the sales of used cars are 3-4 times more than the sales of new cars.

Statistics for January - August 2007
Make Importers Total in %

ALFA ROMEO MILANO MOTORS 58 0.18%
AUDI PORSCHE BG 421 1.32%
BMW KAMOR AUTO 350 1.10%
CHEVROLET BULVARIA, CARGOEXPRESS, SOFIA AUTO, BOJNA AUTO, SERVICE STEFANOV, BOVA 1753 5.49%
CHRYSLER BALKAN STAR 59 0.18%
CITROEN AVTOMOTOR CORPORATION 2058 6.45%
DACIA RENAULT NISSAN BULGARIA 1973 6.18%
DAIHATSU AVTOTRANS SERVICE 27 0.08%
DODGE BALKAN STAR 38 0.12%
FIAT AUTO ITALIA 725 2.27%
FORD MOTO PFOHE 3110 9.74%
GAZ ANTARIS TRADE SERVICE 15 0.05%
HONDA BULTRACO 280 0.88%
ISUZU, PIAGGIO SOF CO 2 0.01%
JAGUAR MOTO PFOHE 14 0.04%
JEEP BALKAN STAR 63 0.20%
KIA KIA MOTORS BULGARIA 683 2.14%
LADA NAR 418 1.31%
LANCIA AUTO ITALIA 5 0.02%
LAND ROVER MOTO PFOHE 130 0.41%
LEXUS T M AUTO 59 0.18%
MAZDA STAR MOTORS 386 1.21%
MERCEDES BALKAN STAR 932 2.92%
MINI KAMOR AUTO 37 0.12%
MITSUBISHI BALKAN STAR 608 1.90%
NISSAN RENAULT NISSAN BULGARIA 624 1.95%
OPEL AXON, BULVARIA, CARGOEXPRESS, ONIX,SOFIA AUTO,BOJNA AUTO, SERVICE STEFANOV, BOVA 2552 7.99%
PEUGEOT SOFIA FRANCE AUTO 2726 8.54%
RENAULT RENAULT NISSAN BULGARIA 1973 6.18%
SAAB GRIFFIN 32 0.10%
SEAT AUTOTECHNICA 317 0.99%
SKODA EURATEC 2009 6.29%
SSANGYONG RATOLA CORPORATION 174 0.55%
SUBARU SUBARU MOTORS TRADING 56 0.18%
SUZUKI MIRKAT 525 1.64%
TOYOTA T M AUTO 3725 11.67%
VOLKSWAGEN PORSCHE BG 2470 7.74%
VOLVO MOTO PFOHE 304 0.95%
OTHERS 229 0.72%
31920 100.00%

MOTORCYCLES
Make Importers Total in %

BMW KAMOR AUTO 9 2.20%
HONDA BULTRACO 23 5.62%
PEUGEOT SOFIA FRANCE AUTO 145 35.45%
PIAGGIO MILANO MOTORS 127 31.05%
SUZUKI MIRKAT 37 9.05%
YAMAHA MOTODYNAMICS 68 16.63%
409 100.00%

BUSES and TRUCKS
Make Importers Total in %

ASTRA TORINO MOTORS 20 1.11%
FORD MIRKAT 70 3.88%
GAZ ANTARIS TRADE SERVICE 3 0.17%
IVECO CEFIN BULGARIA, TORINO MOTORS, PULDIN TRANS SERVICE, BULAVTO 449 24.86%
IZUZU SOF CO 49 2.71%
MAN EVROKAMION 261 14.45%
MERCEDES BALKAN STAR 613 33.94%
OTOKAR PROMOBILE 1 0.06%
RENAULT SIGMA TRUCKS 0 0.00%
SETRA BALKAN STAR 13 0.72%
TOYOTA T M AUTO 0 0.00%
VOLVO VOLVO BULGARIA 327 18.11%
1806 100.00%


TOTAL 33726

Some dealers such as Hyundai are not included because they are not members of the Union of Importers of Automobiles in Bulgaria
Source: http://www.svab.bg/Frame/Index.htm