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DanteXavier June 24th, 2007, 09:39 PM I thought we could make a thread for the discussion and posting of pictures for various African militaries today. It is true that war has often played a negative part in recent African history, but it is also true that today many African militaries are doing a lot of good in helping to stabilize the continent.
For example, the Ugandan troops of the AU in Somalia. The conflict they are fighting there is very similar to what is going on in Iraq; you just don't hear about it as much, if at all.
So, lets post articles, photos, and discussions on African militaries(armies, navies, air forces):)
I'll start with some pics of the Ugandan peacekeepers:
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Ugandan Air Force:
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Carver02 June 24th, 2007, 10:12 PM Thanks for the pics.
Unfortunately, pics of African militaries are hard to find becuase most of them have strict anti-photography rules in their countries.
A rare photo of Nigerian Mig-21s (presumably at Makurdi):
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/CarverCC/MiG21-NAF2.jpg
Carver02 June 24th, 2007, 10:19 PM A group of Kenyans (paratroopers?) outside their Y-12b transport:
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A Botswana AF C-130:
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DanteXavier June 24th, 2007, 10:38 PM Goods pics! Those last 2 are actually new to me.
Ugandan Tank with AU Forces in Somalia:
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Ethiopian AU Soldier:
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Rwandan Soldiers in Sudan:
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Cameroonian Alpha Jet
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Angolan Helicopters and Pilots:
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Rdokoye June 24th, 2007, 11:33 PM Nigerian Navy
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Nigerian Army
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Nigerian Air Force
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Rdokoye June 24th, 2007, 11:46 PM Nigeria develops unmanned coastal capability
Nigeria is developing a national coastal defence alignment based mainly on unmanned platforms, Jane's has learned.
Under a USD260 million contract signed in March, Israeli Aeronautics Defense Systems will design and build the naval array, providing manned and unmanned naval and aerial systems, coastal radars and command-and-control centres.
The array will be based on Aeronautics' Aerostar tactical unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) and the Seastar unmanned surface vehicle (USV). Three Aerostar systems will be provided, each including three to six platforms, and three Seastar systems, including several USVs.
Both systems are controlled through Aeronautics' Unmanned Multi-Application System terminal and software, which provide air vehicle and payload control and enable the integration of different sensors. The Aerostar, with 14 hours operational endurance, is equipped with Controp's Dual-Sensor Stabilised Payload DSP-1, providing day/night surveillance coverage.
The Nigerian Navy has faced an increasing number of attacks in recent months on the oil rigs in the Niger delta by various guerrilla groups. With an ageing fleet, mostly in an advanced stage of decay, the navy was seeking to reorganise its force to meet the threats under considerable budget restraints. In addition to the new surveillance alignment, the Nigerian Navy will establish three forward operating bases in the delta region and has procured six Defender-class fast response boats from SAFE Boats International.
Tbite June 25th, 2007, 12:49 AM Nice Pictures IgboWarrior.:)
DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 01:27 AM Yes, Igbo Warrior, those were some great pics, especially the air force ones.
DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 01:33 AM Botswana C-130, with the pilot on the left:
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Botswana CF-5:
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Equatorial Guinea's new attack helicopters, Mi-24 Hinds:
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Mozambiquan Troops:
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DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 01:42 AM More Ugandans:
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Ugandan Tank getting offloaded in Mombasa:
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Ugandan Soldiers:
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Ugandan Soldiers saluting their president:
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DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 01:57 AM African Union Extends Darfur Mission
The African Union has extended the mandate for its Darfur peacekeeping mission until the end of the year as it waits to assemble a combined force with the United Nations.
The African Union said in a statement Friday that it hopes efforts to deploy the hybrid force will be speeded up.
Sudan agreed this month to the joint African Union - United Nations force of around 20,000 peacekeepers after months of international pressure and threats of tougher U.N. sanctions.
The African Union already has about 7,000 peacekeepers in Darfur, but they have not been able to stop the region's violence.
Sudanese government-backed Arab militias are accused of committing atrocities in battling Darfur rebels. Four years of fighting in Darfur has left more than 200,000 people dead and more than two million displaced. - VOA News
http://www.huliq.com/25515/african-union-extends-darfur-mission
DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 01:58 AM African leaders discuss Somalia unrest
Addis Ababa - Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni was in Ethiopia over the weekend for talks with Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi and African Union officials on war-ravaged Somalia and other issues.
"Museveni and Prime Minister Meles will hold discussions on both bilateral and continental issues," a senior government official told the Ethiopian news agency on Sunday.
On top of the agenda for both leaders will be the situation in war-torn Somalia, where Uganda in early March deployed about 1 500 troops at the vanguard of around 8 000 soldiers the African Union (AU) is struggling to assemble in the Horn of Africa nation.
About 1 000 Burundian soldiers are scheduled to join the AU peacekeeping force next month which at present comprises solely of Ugandan soldiers.
Somali government troops, backed by Ethiopian forces, quelled an Islamist insurgency in April after months of fighting in Mogadishu left hundreds of civilians dead and hundreds of thousands displaced.
Museveni is also due to meet with the head of the African Union, Alpha Oumar Konare. The AU is headquartered in the Ethiopian capital. - Sapa-AFP
http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=87&art_id=nw20070624215546109C413032
DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 01:59 AM Uganda: UPDF Destroys Somalia Ammunition
UPDF peacekeepers in Somalia yesterday destroyed large amounts of ammunition abandoned or recovered from insurgents in the war-torn Somalia.
"We have been doing that (destroying ammunitions) for sometime. They have field engineers. Each time we locate them, we seal off the area and destroy them," army and Defence spokesman Felix Kulayigye said.
Curfew
A curfew was imposed on Mogadishu last night as the city witnessed another day of violence.
Somalia's national security agency chief said the curfew would take effect on Friday. "No one should be seen moving from 7.00 pm (1600 GMT) to 5.00am (0200 GMT)," Mohamed Warsame Darwish said on Thursday.
Five people, including one police officer, were killed and nearly 10 were wounded in Bakara, Mogadishu's biggest bazaar, Shabelle news, a local news agency reported.
Witnesses told Shabelle that two people were killed in an exchange of gunfire after unknown gunmen and policemen in Bakara clashed.
Minutes later an unknown gunman threw a hand grenade in Bakara's medical section where a number of policemen were passing. Two civilians were instantly killed while one police officer was seriously wounded, the news agency reported. It said the policeman later died in the hospital.
Mohammed Warsame Darwish, the leader of Somalia's national security committee, said the curfew was imposed to stabilise the volatile capital.
He said a large number of police forces would be stationed at every road and neighborhood in the capital.
"Any one who trespasses the curfew will be regarded as a member of those responsible for the unremitting bombings and killings in the capital," he said.
Warning
He warned that residents in Mogadishu would have to endure 14 days of weapons detonations.
"The Ugandan troops will blow up all the weapons that include ammunition and landmines seized from the different districts in Mogadishu and it will take 14 days when the sounds of blast will be heard," he said.
Last week, a UN-backed peace conference bringing together Somali clan leaders and government officials was postponed for the third time.
Source: Daily Monitor
http://www.garoweonline.com/artman2/publish/Somalia_27/Uganda_UPDF_Destroys_Somalia_Ammunition.shtml
Tbite June 25th, 2007, 02:04 AM Nigerian Air force G222
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Tbite June 25th, 2007, 02:23 AM Nigeria Air force C-130H NAF 917
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Nigeria Air Force Lockheed C-130H-30 Hercules (L-382) at the Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport in Abuja
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Nigeria Air Force SepeCat Jaguar on display in England
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Tbite June 25th, 2007, 02:57 AM Nigeria Air Force Lockheed C-130H Hercules
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Nigeria Air force Dornier 228-212
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boris89 June 25th, 2007, 03:09 AM WOW SOUTH AFRICA, ALGERIA, EGYPT, MAROC, ANGOLA ARE DEFINETLY SUPERIOR MILITARY POWERS...AND OF COURSE NIGERIA......
Rank Country Military expenditures (USD) Date of information
170 São Tomé and Príncipe 581,700 2004
169 San Marino 700,000 2005
168 Gambia, The 1,547,000 2004
167 Bermuda, UK overseas territory 4,030,000 2001
166 East Timor 4,400,000 FY03
165 Guyana 6,479,000 2003
164 Cape Verde 7,178,000 2005
163 Suriname 7,494,000 2005
162 Bhutan 8,281,000 2005
161 Moldova 8,700,000 2004
160 Guinea-Bissau 9,455,000 2005
159 Laos 11,040,000 2005
158 Mauritius 12,040,000 2005
157 Comoros 12,870,000 2005
156 Sierra Leone 14,250,000 2005
155 Seychelles 14,850,000 2005
154 Malawi 15,810,000 2005
153 Central African Republic 16,370,000 2005
152 Papua New Guinea 16,900,000 2003
151 Belize 19,000,000 2005
150 Kyrgyzstan 19,200,000 FY01
149 Mauritania 19,320,000 2005
148 Tanzania 21,200,000 2005
147 Somalia 22,340,000 2005
146 Mongolia 23,100,000 FY02
145 Haiti 25,960,000 2003
144 Djibouti 29,050,000 2005
143 Togo 29,980,000 2005
142 Jamaica 31,170,000 2003
141 Nicaragua 32,270,000 2005
140 Tajikistan 35,400,000 FY01
139 Fiji 36,000,000 2004
138 Burma 39,000,000 NA
137 Lesotho 41,100,000 2005
136 Swaziland 41,600,000 2005
135 Burundi 43,900,000 2005
134 Malta 44,640,000 2005
133 Niger 44,780,000 2005
132 Maldives 45,070,000 2005
131 Paraguay 53,100,000 2003
130 Rwanda 53,660,000 2005
129 Albania 56,500,000 FY02
128 Trinidad and Tobago 66,720,000 2003
127 Liberia 67,400,000 2005
126 Chad 68,950,000 2005
125 Burkina Faso 74,830,000 2005
124 Mozambique 78,030,000 2005
123 Costa Rica 83,460,000 2005
122 Ghana 83,650,000 2005
121 Congo, Republic of the 85,220,000 2005
120 Latvia 87,000,000 FY01
119 Turkmenistan 90,000,000 NA
118 Honduras 99,410,000 2005
117 Benin 100,900,000 2005
116 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 103,700,000 2005
115 Nepal 104,900,000 2005
114 Mali 106,300,000 2005 ????????
113 Cambodia 112,000,000 NA
112 Senegal 117,300,000 2005
111 Guinea 119,700,000 2005
110 Zambia 121,700,000 2005
109 Afghanistan 122,400,000 2005
108 Zimbabwe 124,700,000 2005
107 Bolivia 130,000,000 2005
106 Namibia 149,500,000 2005
105 Panama 150,000,000 2005
104 Equatorial Guinea 152,200,000 2005
103 Estonia 155,000,000 2002 est.
102 Armenia 160,000,000 2006
101 El Salvador 161,700,000 2005
100 Guatemala 169,800,000 2005
99 Dominican Republic 180,000,000 FY98
98 Uganda 192,800,000 2005
96 Republic of Macedonia 200,000,000 NA
97 Uzbekistan 200,000,000 NA
95 Eritrea 220,100,000 2005
94 Kazakhstan 221,800,000 FY02
93 Cameroon 230,200,000 2005
91 Luxembourg 231,076,480 2003
90 Bosnia and Herzegovina 234,300,000 NA
89 Côte d'Ivoire 246,600,000 2005
88 Oman 252,990,000 2005
87 Gabon 253,500,000 2005
86 Kenya 280,500,000 2005
85 Brunei 290,700,000 2004
84 Ethiopia 295,900,000 2004
83 Botswana 325,500,000 2005
82 Madagascar 329,000,000 2005
81 Tunisia 356,000,000 NA
79 Slovenia 370,000,000 2007
78 Uruguay 371,200,000 2005
77 Cyprus 384,000,000 NA
76 Slovakia 406,000,000 2002
75 Belarus 420,500,000 2006
92 Lithuania 490,800,000 FY01
74 Lebanon 540,600,000 2004
73 Georgia 567,200,000 2007
72 Sudan 587,000,000 2004
71 Sri Lanka 606,200,000 2005
70 Ukraine 617,900,000 FY02
69 Croatia 620,000,000 2004
68 Bahrain 627,700,000 2005
66 Ecuador 650,000,000 2005
67 Vietnam 650,000,000 NA
65 Cuba 694,000,000 2005
64 Qatar 723,000,000 NA
80 Bulgaria 730,000,000 2007
63 Nigeria 737,600,000 2005
62 Peru 829,300,000 2005
61 Philippines 836,900,000 2005
60 Syria 858,000,000 NA
59 Azerbaijan 900,000,000 2006
58 Yemen 992,200,000 2005
57 Bangladesh 1,008,000,000 2005
56 Hungary 1,080,000,000 2002 est.
55 New Zealand 1,147,000,000 2005
52 Indonesia 1,300,000,000 2004
53 Libya 1,300,000,000 2007
54 Ireland 1,300,000,000 2007
51 Iraq 1,333,000,000 2005
50 Jordan 1,392,000,000 2005
49 United Arab Emirates 1,600,000,000 NA
48 Malaysia 1,690,000,000 NA
47 Thailand 1,775,000,000 NA
46 Angola 2,000,000,000 2005
45 Czech Republic 2,170,000,000 2004
44 Morocco 2,306,000,000 2005
43 Austria[8] 2,334,900,000 FY06
42 Egypt 2,440,000,000 2003
41 Switzerland 2,548,000,000 2005
40 Finland 2,800,000,000 FY06
39 Romania [7] 2,900,000,000 2007
38 Algeria 2,994,000,000 2005
37 Kuwait 3,007,000,000 2005
36 Denmark 3,271,600,000 2003
35 Colombia 3,300,000,000 NA
34 Portugal 3,497,800,000 2003
33 South Africa 3,548,000,000 2005
32 Mexico 3,705,000,000 2006
31 Chile 3,907,000,000 2005
30 Belgium 3,999,000,000 2003
29 Venezuela 4,000,000,000 2007
28 Norway 4,033,500,000 2003
27 Pakistan 4,253,000,000 2004
25 Iran 4,300,000,000 2005
26 Argentina 4,300,000,000 NA
24 North Korea 5,000,000,000 2005
23 Sweden 6,309,137,714 2007
22 Singapore 7,053,000,000 2007
21 Poland[6] 7,262,500,000 2007
20 Greece[5] 7,648,561,000 2006 (est.)
19 Republic of China 8,400,000,000 2006
18 Israel 9,444,000,000 2005
17 Brazil 9,940,000,000 2005
16 Netherlands 10,369,920,000 2006 (est.)
15 Turkey 10,936,000,000 2006 (est.)
14 Spain 15,792,207,000 2006
13 Canada 16,900,000,000 2007
12 Australia[4] 18,200,000,000 2007
11 South Korea 21,050,000,000 2005
10 India 21,330,000,000 2007
9 Saudi Arabia 31,255,000,000 2006
8 Italy 32,093,537,000 2006 (est.)
7 Russia[3] 32,400,000,000 2007
6 People's Republic of China[2] 45,500,000,000 2007 (est.)
5 Japan 46,000,000,000 2007 (est.)
4 Germany 57,500,000,000 2007
3 France 64,611,000,000 2007
2 United Kingdom[1] 66,100,000,000 2007
— EU Total 292,745,000,000
1 United States 532,800,000,000 2007 WOW DONT MESS WITH THEM
— NATO Total 849,875,309,000
— World Total 1,164,254,167,000 THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY ...WHY DO WE NEED ALL THOSE WEAPONS.....
Rdokoye June 25th, 2007, 03:13 AM Nigerian, Indian War Colleges Begin Exchange Programme
From Juliana Taiwo in Abuja, 06.25.2007
National War College (NWC), Abuja, and the Indian National Defence College (INDC), begin an exchange programme today, to partake in a crisis management exercise (War Games) code- named Exercise (EX) Chain Link.
Already, a senior official of the College, Major-General GD Bakshi is in the country, while the Commandant of INDC, Vice Admiral Pradeep Kaushiva, will arrive Nigeria today.
Commandant of NWC, Rear Admiral Anthony Isa, said for two weeks beginning from the end of April to May, 2007, two Directing Staff of the NWC were at the INDC, where they participated in programmes as part of their faculty requirements.
. The programme is aimed at sharing ideas regarding best practices in the operations of National Defence Colleges knowledge for development.
"The rule now is – if you don’t open up, you cannot develop. So, for us at the War College, this is part of the contribution to military diplomacy. The exchange programme helps in fostering the right message to citizens of both countries on respect for one another,” a source at the NWC said.
The visit of the Indian delegations was almost marred by the kidnap of some Indians in the Niger Delta by militants. "Initially, some in Indian government wanted the visit and exchange programme cancelled as a form of protest, but at the end, the approval was given,” the source said.
icosium June 25th, 2007, 03:41 AM ALGERIA AIR FORCE
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icosium June 25th, 2007, 04:22 AM The Algerian Package: What's the Big Deal?
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SU-30MK
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Absent any confirmatory releases by Rosoboronexport, reports regarding this deal have varied. ITAR-Tass, for instance, reported Algeria will buy 40 MiG-29 fighters, 20 Sukhoi-30 fighters and 16 Yak-130 training planes as well as 8 S-300 PMU2 Favorit rocket systems and about 40 T-90 tanks. This is the composition most often reported in the press, but it doesn't come close to a $7.5 billion dollar deal.
A better and more detailed report comes from Vedomosti, and later from the June 2006 issue of Moscow Defense Brief (MDB). The deal package was detailed as:
* 34 MiG-29SMT Fulcrum lightweight multi-role fighters, a slight reduction from DID's February 1, 2006 report of 36 planes. MDB updates the order to include 28 MiG-29SMT fighters and 6 two-seat MiG-29UBT aircraft (28+6=34), and notes this segment as $1.8 billion, of which $300 million will go back as a trade-in for 36 of Algeria's existing MiG-29s, to be resold to third countries.
* 28 Su-30MKA Flanker two-seat multi-role fighters. This figure is the same as DID's earlier report, and MDB's June 2006 update confirms. MDB puts the value of this segment at $1.5 billion as well.
* 14 (16) Yak-130 Mitten combat trainers and light attack aircraft. DID's earlier report had noted the Yaks as an additional option, with the possibility of up to 50 aircraft. They will complement/ replace Algeria's older L-39 ZA Albatros aircraft from Czechoslovakia. MDB reports 16 Yak-130s, for a total of $200 million, an assessment later confirmed by Air Inrternational News at Farnborough in July 2006.
Moscow Defense Brief adds that while the content of the options is not known, it is likely that 12-20 MiG-29SMT fighters and 14-16 Yak-130 trainers will be purchased.
According to Vedomosti, other contracts in the package include:
* 300 T-90S main battle tanks. For tanks, the 'S' designation signifies an export version ($1 billion). MDB agrees, and believes the first 40 tanks will be delivered in 2006. UPDATE: In July 2006, an Algerian representative reportedly noted to Jane's that the figure was actually 180 tanks... this aspect of the deal thus remains unclear.;
* Upgrades of 250 T-72 main battle tanks (over $200 million). Not mentioned by MDB;
* AT-13 Metis-M wire-guided and AT-14 Kornet semi-automatic laser beam-riding antitank guided missiles. Both missile types can also be fitted with thermobraic warheads for devastating anti-personnel effects within buildings, caves, et. al. Also mentioned by MDB;
* 30 self-propelled M1 Tunguska gun/missile systems for low-level, short-range air defense and light fire support (up to $500 million). Algeria's neighbor and sometime rival Morocco signed a December 2004 contract for 12 Tunguska systems. MDB mentioned these systems as well, but put no specific value on them.
* 8 of Russia's advanced S-300 PMU-2 Favorit anti-air missile systems (aka. SA-10E, $1 billion). MDB agrees with the number and figure;
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S-300PMU2 Favorit
radar & launchers
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According to eDefense Online, a S-300PMU2 Favorit battalion is equipped with a 30N6E2 fire-control radar, a 96L6E target-acquisition and designation radar, eight 5P85SE launchers, and a set of 48N6E2 missiles with a range of 200 km against aircraft and 40 km against ballistic missiles. Each battalion complex is designated 90Zh6E2. The system can engage six targets at a time with 12 missiles using its own 96L6 target-acquisition radar, at altitudes ranging anywhere from 35 feet (10m) off the deck to 90,000 feet (27km). In addition, the 83M6E2 regimental C2 system can support a mass engagement of 36 targets at a time.
The contract also includes unspecified work on Algeria's navy. According to Haze Gray, Algeria's Russian combatant ships include 2 Kilo Class submarines, 3 Koni class frigates, 3 Nanuchka class corvettes, and 11 Osa I and II Class missile boats (which may not be operable). Most entered service between 1975-1985, with the most modern ship being a Kilo Class sub that entered service in 1988. Repairs and upgrades had already begun on a limited during the 1990s, but more extensive refurbishment and upgrades are likely necessary.
Structuring the Deal
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Tunguska M1 LLAD
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The biggest issue hanging over the deal was a $4.7 billion debt outstanding from past purchases of Soviet arms. As the next section notes, buying advanced Russian arms is nothing new for Algeria. UPI notes that the logical question arose: if there was no money to pay the debt, how would Algeria pay for all of this new equipment?
Enter Russia's energy sector, in the persons of LUKoil CEO Vagit Alekperov, Gazprom chief Alexei Miller, and Igor Makarov of independent gas producer Itera. UPI believes the final arrangement is that Algeria will give gives Russian companies access to oil- and gas-rich regions, with the proceeds split between the producer and the Algerian government. The Algerian government is then bound to immediately transfer the revenues to Russian arms manufacturers, until such time as the debt is paid off.
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AT-13 Metis-M ATGM
Meanwhile, OPEC member Algeria develops more of her energy reserves, and the projects create local employment in the bargain. Indeed, the St. Petersburg Times reports that an $80 billion, 5-year program is underway aimed at boosting growth and drawing more investments to Algeria as it recovers from an extremely bloody civil war. That war against the Wahhabist/Salafist al-Qaeda affiliate GSPC and other Islamist terrorist groups has lasted over a decade and is still ongoing, but government successes over the last few years have sharply reduced the size of the threat.
The Morocco Times notes that Algeria has the world's seventh-largest natural gas reserves with 4.55 trillion cubic meters, and is the world's fourth-biggest gas exporter after Russia, Canada and Norway at 60 billion cubic meters per year. Russia, meanwhile, is the number one gas exporter to Europe, with about 26% of the market. By coordinating its export policies with number three exporter Algeria (about 10% of the European market), Russia may be able to increase its leverage within Europe, complicate the EU's efforts to diversify its sources of supply, and leverage that improved position into greater participation in and influence over Europe's pipeline projects.
Algeria's Appetite for Advanced Arms
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MiG-29 Fulcrum
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This level of advanced equipment is not altogether surprising. In 1999, Algerian President Abdel Aziz Boutefliqa announced a new military policy aimed at modernizing Algeria's army and shifting it toward a modernized, professional force. Yet military observers would note that modern equipment is hardly new to the Algerians.
Algeria had been a client for Soviet arms throughout the Cold War, and country data notes that they typically received and operated some of Russia's most advanced export equipment. The ANP was one of the first armies outside Eastern Europe to be equipped with the T-72 tank. Algeria also received the BMP-1 and BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, MiG-23 Flogger and MiG-25 Foxbat fighters, Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters, modern rapid-firing artillery, and SA-2 and SA-3 air defense missile systems.
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Armed SU-24 Fencer
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Algeria currently flies the lightweight MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter, and a previous UPI story noted that Algeria received 18 SU-30MK multi-role fighters in 2005, along with a $120 million deal for 22 of Russia's SU-24 Fencer tactical bombers that proved so popular in Chechnya. In 1999, Algeria also became one of the first customers for Russia's Smerch-M 300mmm multiple rocket launcher system.
In many ways, therefore, this purchasing wave is simply a continuation of what Algeria's military government is used to. Even so, there is one important way in which this proposed deal would represent a break with the recent past.
Moscow Defense Brief magazine editor Ruslan Pukhov noted to The Moscow Times that after the Soviet Union's breakup, Algeria's military contracts largely switched to firms in Belarus and the Ukraine. We'd add that rather than dealing with Russian firms, Algeria even worked closely with South Africa's ATE Aerospace to upgrade its Mi-24 Hind attack helicopters with new avionics, sensors, weapons, and logistics infrastructure. the result was the fully-modernized "Mi-24 Superhind Mk3".
"This [$4 billion] contract will be Russia's triumphant return to North Africa," said Pukhov. "In the coming years, Algeria will account for 20% of Russian's arms exports, while China and India will plummet from 70% to 50%" as a result of saturated markets and diversification of those of those countries' arms sources
DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 05:13 AM Nice job, Icosium! Algeria has one of the strongest militaries in Africa, that is widely acknowledged.
More pics, this time from Ethiopia:banana:
Ethiopian Soldiers:
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Ethiopian Air Force Pics, with pilots included:
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Carver02 June 25th, 2007, 07:00 AM Tbite, or anyone, do you know when those pics of Nigerian Jaguars were taken? The Jaguars were acquired in the 80s but were out of service for many years. Maybe they are going back into service?
Carver02 June 25th, 2007, 07:05 AM Ethiopian troops:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=x9FIKcvfIVQ
And also:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tTh5ZSTKMlM
DanteXavier June 25th, 2007, 07:11 AM Tbite, or anyone, do you know when those pics of Nigerian Jaguars were taken? The Jaguars were acquired in the 80s but were out of service for many years. Maybe they are going back into service?
I believe they were at an airshow in England. The Jags were acquired by Nigeria, but they were never paid for, so spares never arrived for them;this is why they've been out of service this whole time. As far as I know, they aren't going back into service anytime soon.
Kingofthehill June 25th, 2007, 07:49 AM I'm tired ATM, but I'll post some good pix later on.
Dijibouti has a cool army give it's small size
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXbOtPIpKvA
:cucumber::pepper::banana:
icosium June 25th, 2007, 11:18 PM ALGERIA NAVY (MADE IN ALGERIA )
Djebel Chenoua (353)
Histoire
A servi dans : Marine algérienne
Lancement : 3 février 1985
Armé : novembre 1988
Statut : En service
Caractéristiques techniques
Type : Corvette
Longueur : 58,40 m
Maître-bau : 8,50 m
Tirant d'eau : 2,59 m
Déplacement : 540 t
Propulsion : 3 diesels MTU 20V-538-TB92, 3 hélices
Puissance : 9 400 kW
Vitesse : 57,41 km/h
Caractéristiques militaires
Armement : 4 missiles (2*2) C-802, Canons : 1 de 76/60 mm, 2 (1*2) Breda de 40/70 mm, 4 (2*2) de 23 mm
Autres caractéristiques
Électronique : 1 radar de veille surface Racal Decca 1226, 1 contrôle d'armes
Équipage : 52 hommes
Chantier : ECRN, Mers-el-Kebir, Algérie
http://www.techno-science.net/?onglet=glossaire&definition=13965
icosium June 25th, 2007, 11:24 PM ALGERIA NAVY (MADE IN ALGERIA )
Djebel Chenoua (353)
Histoire
A servi dans : Marine algérienne
Lancement : 3 février 1985
Armé : novembre 1988
Statut : En service
Caractéristiques techniques
Type : Corvette
Longueur : 58,40 m
Maître-bau : 8,50 m
Tirant d'eau : 2,59 m
Déplacement : 540 t
Propulsion : 3 diesels MTU 20V-538-TB92, 3 hélices
Puissance : 9 400 kW
Vitesse : 57,41 km/h
Caractéristiques militaires
Armement : 4 missiles (2*2) C-802, Canons : 1 de 76/60 mm, 2 (1*2) Breda de 40/70 mm, 4 (2*2) de 23 mm
Autres caractéristiques
Électronique : 1 radar de veille surface Racal Decca 1226, 1 contrôle d'armes
Équipage : 52 hommes
Chantier : ECRN, Mers-el-Kebir, Algérie
http://www.techno-science.net/?onglet=glossaire&definition=13965
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madao June 26th, 2007, 05:25 PM http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/...fx3824500.html
PARIS (Thomson Financial) - Dassault Aviation has concluded industrial talks over the sale of Rafale fighter jets to Morocco and the deal is now being negotiated between the French and Moroccan governments, said Dassault's chief executive Charles Edelstenne.
'I cannot say when those talks will end and what the outcome will be,' he was reported saying by Agence France-Presse.
Sources close to the matter say that the company has been in talks over the last few weeks with Morocco to sell the country around 15 Rafale fighter planes.
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madao June 26th, 2007, 05:30 PM special unit DGSN (counter terrorist)
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madao June 26th, 2007, 05:41 PM moroccan soldiers
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http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/140/p12a/b02121a.jpg
Moroccan and Spanish NCO's exchange impressions about FN FAL Rifle.
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/331467834_aa70c90210_o.jpg
practice in de desert
madao June 26th, 2007, 05:58 PM http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/427/f1maroc19rx.jpg
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africanman June 26th, 2007, 08:16 PM I am glad to see that Kenya is not on the list of top spenders because we all know it is a waste of money considering the role and capabilities of foreign militaries.
A more important question is what makes some countries like Nigeria, Guinea Bissau and the like more susceptible to coup's, is it how the military is run, financed and how powerful it is in a countries politics. I am asking this question because Kenya has never had a coup and the one that was tried was so unsuccessful because the military refused to go along. I don't know of any former or current military leader of any significance that has any real political power in Kenya and as a matter of fact, the regular citizen would find it almost impossible to name the top military brass.
I am just curious about how other African countries integrate the military into the countries political and social systems because I think the Kenya system is rare and probably works because it is so different.
nairoberry June 26th, 2007, 10:05 PM As a kenyan i feel that we need to have to maintain our millitary technological edge coz of the region we are in. any time we might be called into action in somalia. kenyan millitary should be for defending kenya's freedom and soverignity and not for agression. i like the way our millitary is set up and its size, it is very STABLE and well trained coz our chain of command is effective. all we need is mordernization of our armoury and accesories esp the airforce and navy
Mosi-oa-Tunya June 26th, 2007, 10:22 PM Any pictures of Robert Mugabe's Fifth Brigade in Zimbabwe that is trained by the North Koreans and massacred 20,000 people? Any pictures of his Youth Brigade in their green bombers? Would like to see some pictures even ones where they are in action.
icosium June 27th, 2007, 12:02 AM submarine Hadj Slimane
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submarine Hadj Moubarek
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submarine class romeo
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icosium June 27th, 2007, 12:02 AM submarine class romeo
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icosium June 27th, 2007, 12:10 AM ALGERIA NAVY MADE
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icosium June 27th, 2007, 12:13 AM CORVETTE MADE IN ALGERIA
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icosium June 27th, 2007, 12:19 AM made in Algeria Planes... made in Algeria the ZLIN-142 was the elementary plane of drive of the Czechoslovakian air forces at the time of the USSR. Many of other countries acquired this type of apparatus for its relatively low robustness and its price, like its needs not very important maintenance revision after flight. Algeria started to acquire this type of apparatus, immediately after having inaugurated its school of military aviation in Tafraoui, or it is used for the primary education training of the pilots. It is into 1987 that the ministry for algerien transport signed a contract with its counterpart of the ex. Czechoslovakian republic, bearing on the assembly of Planes of the Zlin-142 type. The mission was entrusted at the time to the Building firm of Industriels vehicles of Rouïba. The project was entrusted thereafter to the Ministry for the National Defense which A creates the Aeronautical Building firm of Tafraoui-ECA (Oran). It is directed by the Command of the air forces, which has built for several years, of the light planes of aircraft type after having started by the acquisition of light planes ZLIN-142. Gathering military and civil national competences, the E.C.A in record time could arrive to a high degree of control of technologies of Construction, development, assembly, tests and finally control and exploitation of the planes of the type FIRNAS-142 (a two-seater which adds up approximately 150 hours of flight, that is to say the equivalent of 180 missions), and SAFIR-43 (4 places, a plane built with the profit of the command from the air forces and which is currently in exploitation), both, based on the cell of Czech Zlin-142. And enfinun agricultural plane X-3A, built in response to needs for economic national interest and public utility. This last can carry out operations of spreading of plant health products and mainly in the fight antiacridienne. Firnas-142 and Safir-43 are built for the drive and the fundamental formation (in the military academies and civil) like for the operations of diurnal and night aerial navigation, control, maritime surveyance and terrestrial, medical evacuation and help, but also for the postal operations, of communication, tourism... etc. The prospects for the ECA, at the present time, are in the search for partnership for the construction of an aircraft of 12 places for regional transport. Another project, the transformation of the SAFIR-43 in order to it adapted for the medical tranports. The times of construction are 60 days. Among the customers of the ECA several aero clubs appear through the own territory, Sonelgaz, Sonatrach civil Protection, etc. To date, more than 40 Safir-43 were manufactured by the ECA including 20 on behalf of Armee of the air algerienne. The Aeronautical Building firm is a Company in economic matter, which works to satisfy the needs and orders of all its partners while ensuring the whole of the formation and technical follow-up, maintenance, check operations. It has tens of immediately exploitable apparatuses today, as it is able to increase its production according to the national request, and allows has our country a certain independence in the field of basic aeronautics. Those which saw the demonstrations in flight of the Fernas-142 plane, could appreciate the high competences acquired by Algeria as regards Aeronautical Engineering. Source: the review El Djeich
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Rdokoye June 27th, 2007, 01:04 AM Nigerian Navy
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http://www.bnoack.com/photopages/abuja/pics/abuja_33.jpg
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-11578/ship_photos/fiji_class/nigeria/nigeria.jpg
http://www.hmsnigeria.com/HMSNigeria.jpg
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 03:32 AM I wouldn't like to go against the Moroccan Army, they're packed with ammunition.
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 03:32 AM I am glad to see that Kenya is not on the list of top spenders because we all know it is a waste of money considering the role and capabilities of foreign militaries.
Actually, spending on the military is not a waste. A place like Kenya actually could use higher spending in particular because of its location and it's unique situation-it is in conflict right now, I believe, with forces in the north, and the whole somalia islamic fundamentalist thing could help destabilize the whole region-a nation like Kenya, which is the economic hub of the region, should take a forefront with regards to stopping that.
So yes, military spending is far from a waste unless you're constantly at peace, and/or are a small country surrounded by powerful neighbors who like you and/or are allies(like belgium or Latvia). Places like Kenya kind of need it, though.
A more important question is what makes some countries like Nigeria, Guinea Bissau and the like more susceptible to coup's, is it how the military is run, financed and how powerful it is in a countries politics. I am asking this question because Kenya has never had a coup and the one that was tried was so unsuccessful because the military refused to go along. I don't know of any former or current military leader of any significance that has any real political power in Kenya and as a matter of fact, the regular citizen would find it almost impossible to name the top military brass.
Its all about corruption and the ability to sustain the military. Nigeria has a large amount of corruption. Guinea Bissau is no different. Sometimes, their soldiers are underpaid, and loyalties sway.
This is why coups occur. The soldiers are unhappy, and they want more. A general promises more, and they back a coup.
Kenya has been able to keep an efficient, well trained and capable military that provides for it's personnel. This is why the personnel aren't going to be easily onvinced to launch a coup, and will remain loyal.
Another example is robert mugabe. His country is falling apart, but he has maintained the loyalty of the soldiers by paying them really well. In fact, becoming on of Mugabe's top soldiers is one of the easiest ways to make a decent living in Zimbabwe, since it guarantees steady and constant pay. This is how Mugabe avoids a coup.
I am just curious about how other African countries integrate the military into the countries political and social systems because I think the Kenya system is rare and probably works because it is so different.
Other nations like Botswana, South Africa, Ghana(after 1981), Gabon, and Senegal have managed to avoid coups as well for the very same reason that Kenya has.
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 03:43 AM Any pictures of Robert Mugabe's Fifth Brigade in Zimbabwe that is trained by the North Koreans and massacred 20,000 people? Any pictures of his Youth Brigade in their green bombers? Would like to see some pictures even ones where they are in action.
Sorry, I've been unable to find any of the fifth brigade. It was a tough call, since they were operational so long ago(disbanded 1984) and Zimbabwe isn't the most transparent and open of governments or militaries.
I will provide some Zimbabwe photos a bit later.
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 03:50 AM Zimbabwean Air Force:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2372/zimbabawef7rx8.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/188/zimbabweairforceee7.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/857/zimbabweanf7szm0.jpg
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Tbite June 27th, 2007, 04:16 AM Nigerian Air force Model at the Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport in Abuja
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Nigerian C130s in Lagos
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/40882925_64ae435f75_o.jpg
Nigeria has 18 SepeCat Jaguars, so the Two in the England Airshow are just one of many operated by the Nigeria Airfore
Some Recent Purchases
The Nigerian government has approved the acquisition of new aircraft for the Nigerian Air Force (NAF), a senior official said on Tuesday.
Nigeria's Defense Minister Aguiyi Ironsi, said the aircraft would improve the country's air defense capability and enhance the NAF's capability to police the nation's waters up to the limits of Nigeria's maritime boundaries.
"This should help deter sundry criminal activities ranging from piracy, poaching, illegal bunkering, oil theft and pollution," he said.
He said that the above criminal activities were currently going on in the nation's maritime environment.
Funds had been released to complete the ongoing rehabilitation of the C-130 Hercules, G-222 and the Super Puma Helicopter fleets, he added.
The Nigerian Airforce has an Extensive Fleet of;
Aircraft
* Combat aircraft
o 15 - Chengdu F-7
o 32 - MiG-21
o 18 - SEPECAT Jaguar
* Trainers
o 60 - RV-6
o 12 - MB-339
o 24 - Aero L-39
o 37 - Bulldog T1
o 24 - Dassault-Breguet/Dornier Alpha Jet
o 20 - Do 27
o 36 - Do 28
* Transport aircraft
o 5 - G.222
o 1 - Boeing 707
o 1 - Boeing 727
o 1 - Boeing 737
o 1 - BAe 125
o 2 - Dassault Falcon 900
o 9 - Do 228
o 6 - Fokker F27
o 1 - Fokker F28
o 1 - Gulfstream II
o 1 - Gulfstream IV
o 9 - C-130
* Attack helicopters
o 14 - Hughes 300
o 24 - BO 105
o 6 - Mi-24
o 9 - Mi-34
* Transport helicopters
o 11 - Eurocopter Puma
o 12 - Eurocopter Super Puma
o 4 - Mi-8
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 04:39 AM I am glad to see that Kenya is not on the list of top spenders because we all know it is a waste of money considering the role and capabilities of foreign militaries.
A more important question is what makes some countries like Nigeria, Guinea Bissau and the like more susceptible to coup's, is it how the military is run, financed and how powerful it is in a countries politics. I am asking this question because Kenya has never had a coup and the one that was tried was so unsuccessful because the military refused to go along. I don't know of any former or current military leader of any significance that has any real political power in Kenya and as a matter of fact, the regular citizen would find it almost impossible to name the top military brass.
I am just curious about how other African countries integrate the military into the countries political and social systems because I think the Kenya system is rare and probably works because it is so different.
No No No.
If you take a look at Previous conflicts in Africa, you'll see that most of them ended not through European Intervention or through American Intervention, but because of the Military of Africa. For Example The Crisis in Liberia and Sierra Leone ceased largely because of the Role of the Nigerian and Ecowas Military.
If the Nigerian Military wasn't so Rigid, then what would happen in Nigeria is a series of Uncontrollable Militants Far worse than what we are currently seeing in the Niger Delta. When a Foreign Islamist Group Invaded Kano, earlier this year, it was the Nigerian Army that protected Nigeria citizens from Immediate danger, the feud was over in less than two days.
The Nigerian Army also fought against the AXIS during WW2 in Burma, as we all know WW2 was a war that posed a threat to all of Humanity.
Having a strong Army, doesn't necessarily encourage coups, as long as the Military can be controlled.
Nigeria needs a strong Military, Africa isn't stable like Western Countries. To suggest dissolving or shrinking the Nigerian Military, would be suicide.:ohno: :ohno:
De La Canada June 27th, 2007, 05:08 AM shrinking or dissolving the nigerian military would be doom
nairoberry June 27th, 2007, 05:17 AM nigeria needs a big military, they CAN'T afford a smaller millitary for many reasons. as long as their military house in order its all good.
nairoberry June 27th, 2007, 05:23 AM i tend to think that nigeria has learned from experience and although there were fears during the elections, its hard to have a millitary problem again. there is big money that has been invested in nigeria of late even the politians have invested and they cant imagine all that money going down the drain.
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 06:07 AM Nigerian Air force Model at the Nnamdi Azikwe International Airport in Abuja
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7435/nigeriaairforcevz8.jpg
Nigerian C130s in Lagos
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/28/40882925_64ae435f75_o.jpg
Nigeria has 18 SepeCat Jaguars, so the Two in the England Airshow are just one of many operated by the Nigeria Airfore
Some Recent Purchases
The Nigerian Airforce has an Extensive Fleet of;
Aircraft
* Combat aircraft
o 15 - Chengdu F-7
o 32 - MiG-21
o 18 - SEPECAT Jaguar
* Trainers
o 60 - RV-6
o 12 - MB-339
o 24 - Aero L-39
o 37 - Bulldog T1
o 24 - Dassault-Breguet/Dornier Alpha Jet
o 20 - Do 27
o 36 - Do 28
* Transport aircraft
o 5 - G.222
o 1 - Boeing 707
o 1 - Boeing 727
o 1 - Boeing 737
o 1 - BAe 125
o 2 - Dassault Falcon 900
o 9 - Do 228
o 6 - Fokker F27
o 1 - Fokker F28
o 1 - Gulfstream II
o 1 - Gulfstream IV
o 9 - C-130
* Attack helicopters
o 14 - Hughes 300
o 24 - BO 105
o 6 - Mi-24
o 9 - Mi-34
* Transport helicopters
o 11 - Eurocopter Puma
o 12 - Eurocopter Super Puma
o 4 - Mi-8
The Jaguars don't work because nobody sent spares for them since they weren't paid for, but Nigeria is getting new jets soon anyway.
http://aviamagazine.xs4all.nl/news/readnews.aspx?id=252
The Czech Republic is negotiating with the Nigerian military for the purchase of redundant L-159 subsonic planes from the Czech military, according to the country's Deputy Defence Minister, Martin Bartak.
He said that Nigeria and Georgia were among the countries interested in the Czech L-159s. Other countries were Afghanistan, Indonesia, Bolivia and other South American countries.
According to him, negotiations with the Nigerian military would probably continue after the inauguration of the new Nigerian president, scheduled for May 29. "After the inauguration, we would like to actively initiate further negotiations. We're ready to go to Nigeria or to host a Nigerian delegation in its new lineup," Bartak said.
A Nigerian military delegation that visited Prague, the country's capital, in March, showed interest in the purchase of 10 to 15 planes worth millions of dollars, Bartak said. Georgia, too, is interested in buying 10 to 12 planes, Georgian representatives said during Czech Prime Minister, Mirek Toplanek's, visit to Tbilisi last week.
The military later decided that it did not need so many of the planes and would keep only 24. It, therefore, decided to sell the remaining 47 to Nigeria and other countries.
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Carver02 June 27th, 2007, 06:08 AM Any pictures of Robert Mugabe's Fifth Brigade in Zimbabwe that is trained by the North Koreans and massacred 20,000 people? Any pictures of his Youth Brigade in their green bombers? Would like to see some pictures even ones where they are in action.One man's massacre is another man's glorious victory. We don't need your politiking here.
TooNs June 27th, 2007, 06:13 AM The Nigerian Airforce has an Extensive Fleet of;
Aircraft
* Combat aircraft
o 15 - Chengdu F-7
o 22 - MiG-21 -> 22 remain in service according to futura-dtp.dk
o 15 - SEPECAT Jaguar -> according to futura-dtp.dk
* Trainers
o 60 - RV-6
o 12 - MB-339
o 24 - Aero L-39
o 0 - Bulldog T1 -> withdrawn
o 24 - Dassault-Breguet/Dornier Alpha Jet
o 0 - Do 27 -> withdrawn
o 29 - Do 28 -> 20 Do-28B withdrawn, 12 Do-28D`s & 17 Do-128`s remain in service
* Transport aircraft
o 5 - G.222 -> 1 additional G222 was ordered
o 0 - Boeing 707 -> Stored
o 0 - Boeing 727 -> sold
o 1 - Boeing 737
o 1 - BAe 125
o 2 - Dassault Falcon 900
o 9 - Do 228
o 0 - Fokker F27 -> withdrawn
o 0 - Fokker F28 -> withdrawn
o 1 - Gulfstream II
o 1 - Gulfstream IV
o 8 - C-130 -> 1 C-130H was lost on 29/9/92.
* Attack helicopters
o 14 - Hughes 300
o 24 - BO 105
o 6 - Mi-35 -> 1 w/o on 2001
o 9 - Mi-34
* Transport helicopters
o 11 - AS Puma
o 12 - Eurocopter Super Puma
o 4 - Mi-171
I made a few corrections on your post ;)
Carver02 June 27th, 2007, 06:17 AM The Czech Republic is negotiating with the Nigerian military for the purchase of redundant L-159 subsonic planes from the Czech military, according to the country's Deputy Defence Minister, Martin Bartak.
He said that Nigeria and Georgia were among the countries interested in the Czech L-159s. Other countries were Afghanistan, Indonesia, Bolivia and other South American countries.
The L-159 is a great plane at a good price. The problem is there are no major purchasers of this aircraft, so if a developing country buys this plane they could wind up not being able to buy spare parts - due to the plane being out of production and not flown by any large airforces. To ensure continued support you need to buy a plane that is operated by a major airforce.
This is a great plane, but Naija should buy something else. Maybe more Alpha Jets, the Hawk, or one of the Russian jets, the Mig or the Yakovlev.
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 06:24 AM DanteXavier Are you talking about all 18 Jaguars, or just the two SepeCat Jaguars that were on display in England?
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 06:26 AM I made a few corrections on your post ;)
Thanks.:)
TooNs June 27th, 2007, 06:33 AM Thanks.:)
yw!
I also red that Nigeria ordered 4 AW139 helicopters.
And to your list you can add navy's helicopters & planes:
Agusta A 109E Power - 3
Fokker F27-200MPA - 2
Westland Lynx Mk 89 - 3
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 06:34 AM Nigeria ordered one(some) Fighter Jet(s) about a month ago, does anyone know the name?
Carver02 June 27th, 2007, 06:39 AM Nigeria ordered one(some) Fighter Jet(s) about a month ago, does anyone know the name?Those are 15 Chinese J-7 (F-7) fighters, 12 one-seaters and 3 two-seaters IIRC. The exact version of the J-7 was not made clear in Nigerian papers. They are included in Tbite's list.
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 06:46 AM yw!
I also red that Nigeria ordered 4 AW139 helicopters.
And to your list you can add navy's helicopters & planes:
Agusta A 109E Power - 3
Fokker F27-200MPA - 2
Westland Lynx Mk 89 - 3
The Augusta Westland AW139 is a great Investment.:)
Those are 15 Chinese J-7 (F-7) fighters, 12 one-seaters and 3 two-seaters IIRC. The exact version of the J-7 was not made clear in Nigerian papers. They are included in Tbite's list.
They should have ordered the J-2000 that Jet is a Killer.:)
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madao June 27th, 2007, 11:41 AM Astrac modernises Morocco's Mirages
Included in rhe Astrac modernisation package of the Royal Moroccan Air Force for the Mirage F1 is the new AASM precision guided stand-off bomb, as well as Corail flare launcher and Phimat chaff dispenser (all seen here in place). All four AASM 250 kg rocket-bombs can be launched at different targets well away from the ennemy's medium and short ranges air defences.
By Jean-Michel Guhl
in Paris, France
The 2007 Paris Air Show gave Astrac — the joint-venture created in November 2005, at the French Ministry of Defence's request, by Thales and Sagem Défense Sécurité (SAFRAN) — an opportunity to show what the new company is all about: high-level all-round upgrade refurbishing of third generation fighters.
Capitalizing on the current Royal Air Forces of Morocco’s program for the modernisation of its entire Mirage F1 fleet (a total of 27 remaining Mirage F1CH and EH), Astrac exhibited a complete offer, including two central computers, SIGMA-type GPS-hybrid navigation systems (both developed by Sagem Défense Sécurité), MICA EM and IR air-to-air missiles provided by MBDA. For this retrofitting solution, Thales is contributing with a RDY3 multi-function radar, a Damocles day/night laser designation pod, a PAJ FA type pod for electronic warfare self-protection and a radar Warning Receiver (RWR). The different units interface via a 1553 bus. 8)
For the air-to-air mission, the multi-function/multi-target radar can be used to fire MICA and Magic 2 missiles. To meet air-to-ground mission requirements, Astrac offers Sagem Défense Sécurité’s standoff AASM air-to-ground modular weapon supported by a mission preparation system by Sagem Défense Sécurité and a debriefing systems from Thales. The weapon can be complemented by laser guided weapons using the Damocles laser designation pod.
Astrac offer, which is compatible with NVGs, also includes a 'zero-zero' ejection seat and a latest-generation glass cockpit MMI with Hands on Thottle and Shift (HOTAS) controls. As an option, the system can also be complemented by a system for deploying anti-ship weapons, such as MBDA’s Exocet AM 39.
Ideal for air forces facing strong budget constraints, the Astrac modernising solution offers added value to a fighter-bomber like the Mirage F1, an aircraft which still in operational with a dozen air arms where it provides good service thanks to the reliability of its single Snecma Atar 9K50 turbojet.
Sold in about 740 copies to eleven different countries, the Mirage F1 is still in operational service today in Ecuador, France, Jordan, Libya, Spain and Morocco. A batch of those once belonging to South Africa (Mirage F1AZ) have meanwhile been sold to Gabon, about a dozen of Iraq's Mirage F1EQs 'given' by Saddam Hussein to Iran while those of Kuwait are stored and those of Qatar sold to Spain. Greece's Elleniki Polemiki Aeroporia's last Mirage F1s were retired two years ago and replaced by Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2s, the final batch of which is now being delivered by Dassault-Aviation, thus marking the end of production for the Mirage 2000 too.
So far, only the Mirage F1s of the Spanish Air Force have been fully modernised by Thales and EADS to an extent comparable with the Astrac endeavour. While about a dozen Libyan Air Force Mirage F1s are due to be modernised by Dassault-Aviation. Therefore, the modernisation market for the Mirage F1 is still very open. [Paris-06-15-2007]
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9yja June 27th, 2007, 12:01 PM i'm loving it...it's colourful!the rankings are trash.
Matthias Offodile June 27th, 2007, 12:10 PM I am not a fond of military equipment AT ALL, ´cos they only enriched a small and tiny elite in the West and in the developing world. Arms have never ever contributed to a better a world.
I wish just one day the world can do away with arms and the like!
Invest the money into more physical and social infrastructure, take the balloning military budget in the USA, it amounts to $400 BILLION A YEAR (!!!), the USA could spend the money in order to sanitize some of their downtown areas instead or give people in South Central or many many other run down city areas a perspective in life! Instead the country splashes its money around by buying arms just for the sake of "defending terrosrism", this is grotesque!
9yja June 27th, 2007, 12:18 PM I am not a fond of military equipment AT ALL, ´cos they only enriched a small and tiny elite in the West and in the developing world. Arms have never ever contributed to a better a world.
I wish just one day the world can do away with arms and the like!
Invest the money into more physical and social infrastructure, take the balloning military budget in the USA, it amounts to $400 BILLION A YEAR (!!!), the USA could spend the money in order to sanitize some of their downtown areas instead or give people in South Central or many many other run down city areas a perspective in life! Instead the country splashes its money around by buying arms just for the sake of "defending terrosrism", this is grotesque!
It's the same UNITED STATES criticizing CHINESE military budget.
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 12:22 PM Well that's just the reality Matthias.
Terrorism is ubiquitous, especially in Africa and the Middle East. As much as I empathize with your position, until there is no Violence etc, the Armies and Navies etc must remain.
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 01:11 PM DanteXavier Are you talking about all 18 Jaguars, or just the two SepeCat Jaguars that were on display in England?
All of them, including those two you saw. At least, this is what I've been hearing. They don't have the parts to keep them in the air. I remember an Omani group that came in 01 looking to buy them; they found them in really bad shape. I'm sure a couple of them are still intact, but they aren't in the air. They were withdrawn from service early because of the budget issue.
Nigeria will likely replace them with planes like the L-159.
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 01:14 PM Those are 15 Chinese J-7 (F-7) fighters, 12 one-seaters and 3 two-seaters IIRC. The exact version of the J-7 was not made clear in Nigerian papers. They are included in Tbite's list.
I think you're correct. Not only that, but Nigeria has also expressed interest in the joint pakistani-chinese fighter, the FC-1.
http://pakistanidefenceforum.com/lofiversion/index.php/t49321.html
DanteXavier June 27th, 2007, 01:23 PM I am not a fond of military equipment AT ALL, ´cos they only enriched a small and tiny elite in the West and in the developing world. Arms have never ever contributed to a better a world.
I wish just one day the world can do away with arms and the like!
You can't do that unless you want to change human nature, mate:dunno:
It is a sad, but unavoidable fact of life. Africans must, in fact, find ways to create stronger, more efficinet and effective militaries that don't have corruption and that can maintain the peace. It is the only way to stabilize the continent.
It is true that the military has caused some issues with regards to things like corruption and coups and the like.
But imagine if Africa could have a strong, well equipped, effective military, with a modern air force, navy, and army that is capable of working efficiently? Imagine if a bunch of African nations ended up creating these, and if these were pooled together in the AU. Africa could solve the crisis in Darfur on its own, it could resolve to take down madmen like Mobutu who abuse power, it could create stability, and once that is there, it's presence could maintain it. Probems on the continent could be taken care of swiftly and efficiently.
Right now, the AU is trying, but it isn't there yet. Africa needs that type of thing with regards to the military.
But in conclusion, the money has to be spent.
Plus, there is a positive side. A strong military alongside a small indigenous military industry can help with things like education and employment.
Invest the money into more physical and social infrastructure, take the balloning military budget in the USA, it amounts to $400 BILLION A YEAR (!!!), the USA could spend the money in order to sanitize some of their downtown areas instead or give people in South Central or many many other run down city areas a perspective in life! Instead the country splashes its money around by buying arms just for the sake of "defending terrosrism", this is grotesque!
Good points there.
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Håkønljzberg June 27th, 2007, 02:19 PM I hate militaries too. when I was in Houston,Texas. OMG, I was shocked beyond shock to see shops like Walmart sells Guns.:nuts: you can't even get medical treatment without a health insurance and yet America waste its money on war on terror. I expect US to spend more money at home, as the saying "Charity begins at Home"
BTW there are lots of eye-popping skyscrapers in Houston
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Tbite June 27th, 2007, 02:41 PM The Algerian and Moroccan Military are really advanced.
Those are sweet choppers you've posted there Massinissa-Algeria :cheers2:
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Mosi-oa-Tunya June 27th, 2007, 04:08 PM One man's massacre is another man's glorious victory. We don't need your politiking here.
Just what Africa needs is more guns and armour to keep repressive regimes in power instead of spending the money on education, health and houses for people. It is the militarist mindset of many governments that is to blame for the continent's misery and failure in the last 40 years of independence while the rest of the world, including Asia which until the 1980's was poorer than Africa, has passed Africa along and will continue to do so making Africa even more so the Dark Continent.
Tbite June 27th, 2007, 04:27 PM Nigeria has decreased it's military budget, for crying out loud. But the Budget of African countries when it comes to Military expenditure needs to be maintained to a certain level considering the amount of violence on the African Continent.
There's nothing Dark about that, what is dark are Millions of Youths running around undisturbed, ravaging cities. What is wrong is Militant groups taking over Regions, and enforcing themselves as the "Macho Libre" of the Continent.
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9yja June 27th, 2007, 11:54 PM you re including gorilla fighters.
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Carver02 June 28th, 2007, 03:03 AM Just what Africa needs is more guns and armour to keep repressive regimes in power instead of spending the money on education, health and houses for people. It is the militarist mindset of many governments that is to blame for the continent's misery and failure in the last 40 years of independence while the rest of the world, including Asia which until the 1980's was poorer than Africa, has passed Africa along and will continue to do so making Africa even more so the Dark Continent.Obviously, you don't actually read this website. Look in the economy and business threads; Africa is hardly standing still the way you wish it would.
Your JHB stack exchange just hit another recond high a few days ago, yet you and some of your fellow whites just keep complaining and complaining.
icosium June 28th, 2007, 04:41 AM JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT AMERICA SPEND 50/100 OFF THE WEAPON IN THE WORLD
SPEND OVER 400 BILLION $ WICH WILL BE BETTER TO BUILD MORE SCHOOL, BETTER HEALTH CARE FOR POEPLE AND HELP
POOR COUNTRY
ALGERIA EX 2 SPENDER IN AFRICA BUT ALGERIA SPEND
BETWEN 3.5 AND 4/100 OFF IT S GDP
SOME COUNTRY RICH WITH OIL AND GAZ
MIGHT BE BETTER PREPARE IN CASE OFF SOME
FOREIGNER POWER MIGHT TAKE THEM OVER (FOR SOME REASON )
EX SOUDAN WITH DARFOUR PROBLEM (BEHIND THIS THEY ARE OIL ) AUTHERWISE THEY WILL DIE IN DARFOUR AND NOBODY CARE
LIKE MANY POOR COUNTRY IN AFRICA (HAVE NEITHER GZA OR OIL ):):):)
Obviously, you don't actually read this website. Look in the economy and business threads; Africa is hardly standing still the way you wish it would.
Your JHB stack exchange just hit another recond high a few days ago, yet you and some of your fellow whites just keep complaining and complaining.
TooNs June 28th, 2007, 07:20 AM Writing using capital letters will not make you more credible or more understandable...
Matthias Offodile June 28th, 2007, 12:36 PM I hate militaries too. when I was in Houston,Texas. OMG, I was shocked beyond shock to see shops like Walmart sells Guns. you can't even get medical treatment without a health insurance and yet America waste its money on war on terror. I expect US to spend more money at home, as the saying "Charity begins at Home"
BTW there are lots of eye-popping skyscrapers in Houston
I totally agree with what you said!
As for the guns: The USA is really a weird nation, only good for a brief holiday or to do your a master´s programme but never good to live there. USA society is a dangerously/unpredictabyl violent society and it is there where "gated communities" were first introduced.
As for the Houston skyscrapers, it is an open secrete that most of them are directly or indirectly Saudi-owned!
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Massinissa-Algeria June 28th, 2007, 05:08 PM http://nl.airliners.net/photos/photos/6/7/6/0897676.jpg
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Massinissa-Algeria June 28th, 2007, 06:21 PM :banana:
Massinissa-Algeria June 28th, 2007, 06:36 PM :banana:
Massinissa-Algeria June 28th, 2007, 06:38 PM http://sauvonslacasbahalger.viabloga.com/images/BD_Rais_Hamidou.jpg
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Massinissa-Algeria June 29th, 2007, 01:10 AM http://nl.airliners.net/photos/middle/8/0/4/0359408.jpg
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Carver02 June 29th, 2007, 01:39 AM ^^ The Airliners.net pics are not coming through.
nairoberry June 29th, 2007, 06:06 AM http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z8/kenyandude/526157750_d82edfe00f_b.jpg
DanteXavier June 29th, 2007, 08:02 AM Kenyan Army:
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Kenyan Naval troops:
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Kenyan Air Force:
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Kenya's President Kibaki Inspecting the Honor Guard:
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DanteXavier June 29th, 2007, 08:03 AM To Massinissa-Algeria, Icosium and Madao, great work posting so many good photos for us to see!
DanteXavier June 29th, 2007, 09:14 AM Ethiopia 'ready for Eritrea war'
Ethiopia's prime minister says he is strengthening his army in preparation for an attack by long-time foe Eritrea.
"Our defence forces have the capacity to deter aggression and to repulse it if it occurred," Meles Zenawi told MPs.
An Eritrean minister said Mr Meles was "paranoid" and trying to divert attention from his domestic problems. He denied backing Ethiopian rebels.
The two neighbours fought a border war from 1998-2000, in which hundreds of thousands of people were killed.
They back rival sides in Somalia and there had been fears that they could clash there through local proxies.
Mr Meles also accused Eritrea of backing its rebel groups, in particular in Ethiopia's Somali region.
Talks
United Nations peacekeepers are monitoring a buffer zone along the border but Ethiopia has long accused Eritrean troops of infiltrating the zone.
Under the deal to end their war, an independent boundary commission ruled on where the countries' border should lie in 2002.
It awarded the town of Badme to Eritrea but Ethiopia has not handed it over.
Mr Meles told parliament that he did not agree with the border ruling but said he accepted it.
"We believe the ruling was wrong, we still believe it is wrong, but we accept the ruling even though it is wrong."
He said he was ready to hold talks with Eritrea about implementing the ruling but Eritrea says there is nothing to talk about - Ethiopia should just withdraw from Badme.
Eritrean Information Minister Ali Abdu said Mr Meles' comments were another attempt to delay implementation of the boundary commission's ruling.
Eritrea wants the international community to put more pressure on Ethiopia to comply with the ruling.
In November 2006, the commission gave the rivals a year to physically demarcate their border or risk having it set for them.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6248898.stm
DanteXavier June 29th, 2007, 10:03 AM http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3299/somalileaderwj7.jpg
Somali Leader Wants U.N. to Send Troops
By EDITH M. LEDERER
Associated Press Writer
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - Declaring that Somalia is at ``a critical crossroads,'' Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi on Thursday urged U.N. peacekeepers to take over from a small African Union force in the country's capital to help restore security and deal with terrorism.
But key U.N. Security Council countries said there must be a peace to keep before the world body sends troops to Somalia.
Gedi blamed the international community for failing to supply funds and logistics so that the bulk of an 8,000-strong African Union force authorized in January could deploy to Somalia.
Only 1,500 AU troops from Uganda have made it to Somalia. That has meant Ethiopian troops, who backed government forces and drove an Islamic movement out of the capital, Mogadishu, in December, have been unable to leave.
In a closed-door speech to the council obtained by The Associated Press, Gedi said the government wants the council to review the deployment so the African Union force ``could be transformed into a U.N. mission.''
Gedi said a U.N. peacebuilding mission in Somalia ``would prove its cost effectiveness in terms of outcomes,'' and he warned that ``failure to act at this critical period will be very costly in the future.''
But diplomats said there is almost no support for deploying a U.N. force in Somalia now.
Britain's U.N. Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry, whose country takes the lead on Somalia in the council, said the African Union force has to be reinforced first - and if there is ``sufficient stability'' and a political agreement resulting from national reconciliation talks starting July 15, then a U.N. peacekeeping force is possible.
``It's got to be done by the Somalis themselves to create the conditions for that force,'' he said. ``You can't put peacekeeping troops in if there's no peace whatever to keep. That's the reality.''
Gedi said afterwards he told council members that Somalia needs peace, and ``if we could do it alone, I wouldn't be here.''
``We are seeking the international community and the United Nations to support us in stabilizing Somalia,'' he said. ``So it's not fair to say 'make peace and I will come and keep it.' ... It's not right to ignore or neglect the interests of the Somali people.''
Burundi, Ghana, Malawi, Benin and Nigeria have offered troops to the AU force, he said, and Ethiopian troops could also be part of an AU or U.N. force.
Somalia has been mired in chaos since 1991, when warlords overthrew dictator Mohamed Siad Barre and then turned against one another, defending clan fiefdoms. The government was formed in 2004 with the help of the United Nations, but has struggled to assert any real control.
Insurgents have been battling government and Ethiopian forces since they drove the Council of Islamic Courts from Mogadishu and much of southern Somalia six months ago. More than 1,000 civilians have been killed and hundreds of thousands have been displaced.
In his speech to the council, Gedi insisted ``security in the capital and in the country as a whole has improved greatly in the last few weeks and will continue to improve.''
Gedi told reporters that when the Islamic Courts were routed it became evident that terrorists were operating in Somalia. ``Weapons, explosives, ammunition, were imported to Somalia together with external fighters, or militants, or Islamists, or Jihadists in order to destabilize Somalia and the region at large,'' he said.
Gedi called for regional and international action to deal with terrorism in Somalia ``before it is too late.'' ``The situation in Somalia is at a critical crossroads in terms of security, in terms of reconciliation, humanitarian aid delivery and governance,'' he said.
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beachpatrol in agadir
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police station in the middle of nowhere:D
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lonely copper:D
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Rdokoye June 29th, 2007, 03:45 PM We’ll defend democracy with our blood – Army chief
By MOLLY KILETE, Abuja
Friday, June 29, 2007
The Nigerian Army has again vowed to protect the nation’s democracy with the last drop of its blood even as it promised to remain loyal to the nation and its leadership through greater commitment to the ideals of the military profession.
Chief Of Army Staff (COAS), Lieutenant-General Luka Nyem Yusuf, who made this declaration at a press briefing to mark the 2007 Nigerian Army Day Celebrations (NADCEL), yesterday in Abuja, said the Nigerian Army, having paid the supreme price of keeping the nation one in the past, would continue to defend the human rights and democratic tenets of the nation, her citizens and foreigners alike.
The Army boss, who noted that the Army is now better equipped after eight unbroken years of its submission to civil authority to serve her fatherland, said it would continue to make meaningful contributions for democracy to survive in the country and assist the civil authority by providing services in its area of competence whenever it is called upon to do so, as well as participate in peace support operations across the globe as the Nigeria’s contribution to world peace.
He said: “I would like to assure you that if officers and men of the Nigerian Army paid the supreme sacrifice to keep our country united in the past, we are now after eight unbroken years of subordination to civil authorities, better equipped to serve our fatherland by contributing meaningfully to all efforts being made for democracy to survive in our country.
“We will defend the human rights and democratic tenets of Nigeria and her inhabitants-nationals and foreigners alike and remain loyal to the nation and its leadership through greater commitment to the ideals of our profession.”
Gen. Yusuf, who gave the theme of this years Army Day celebration as Transforming the Nigerian Army for the Challenges of the 21st century, noted that the transformation going on in the Army is all about effective positive changes in all aspect of its profession and that it is designed to among other things turn the Army into one of the world’s most versatile, self-reliant, highly-mobile and respected forces.
icosium June 29th, 2007, 06:11 PM ALGERIAN ARMY
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Marek.kvackaj June 29th, 2007, 10:23 PM Djibuty army light tanks
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Yemen
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Ghana
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South Africa
South Africa is leader in developing and upgrade army technique in Africa
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TooNs June 30th, 2007, 05:53 AM ? Yemen?
DanteXavier June 30th, 2007, 07:01 AM ? Yemen?
I guess some people consider them to have a lot of Africoid influence-there was a lot of intermixing in the past between Yemenis and somalis, ethiopians, etc, etc.
Carver02 June 30th, 2007, 07:26 AM I think that Mi-35 in Marek's post was being upgraded for a North African country - Algeria maybe.
nai guy June 30th, 2007, 09:08 AM Kenya airforce
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icosium June 30th, 2007, 08:44 PM ALGERIA NAVY
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Soummam is the largest unit in equipment in the Algerian national navy. This ship was acquired in August 2006 and was named "Soummam" for historical reasons. It would have borne name "Atakor" that of a peak located in Hoggar. Construction [ to modify ] This ship of Chinese manufacture seems to belong to no known class of ship. Its forms resemble those of an old ship Chinese school of the class "Zhenghe", but Soummam is 20m longer than him, even if it kept the hurdy-gurdy design of the Chinese ship. Technique [ to modify ] Its maximum speed is of 22 N?uds and it does not have the transport capacity only one helicopter. The ship could be used only for the drive. Its maximum weight is 5500 tons, it has a 132 meters length for a width of 16,4 meters. In the field of the armament, the ship has 3 types of guns, a AK-176 of 76mm, two Chinese guns bitubes Type-76A of 37mm and 2 AK-630 of 6x30mm. It has a radar Type 360 and one Type 363 which are radars of detection S/A. Both are radars 2d (which are used by the Chinese navy). As system of attack, it has 2 radars of attack combined with advanced optical systems, a Type 344 and the another more advanced 347G Type using systems of optical aiming very advanced. Moreover, it has two other systems of concerned optronic combining rangefinders laser, Flir, IR and a camera high definition.
9yja July 1st, 2007, 12:29 AM Djibuty army light tanks really looks like toy.
icosium July 1st, 2007, 03:03 AM http://www.horizons-dz.com/images/forcesnavalel.jpg
ALGERIA NAVY
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Soummam is the largest unit in equipment in the Algerian national navy. This ship was acquired in August 2006 and was named "Soummam" for historical reasons. It would have borne name "Atakor" that of a peak located in Hoggar. Construction [ to modify ] This ship of Chinese manufacture seems to belong to no known class of ship. Its forms resemble those of an old ship Chinese school of the class "Zhenghe", but Soummam is 20m longer than him, even if it kept the hurdy-gurdy design of the Chinese ship. Technique [ to modify ] Its maximum speed is of 22 N?uds and it does not have the transport capacity only one helicopter. The ship could be used only for the drive. Its maximum weight is 5500 tons, it has a 132 meters length for a width of 16,4 meters. In the field of the armament, the ship has 3 types of guns, a AK-176 of 76mm, two Chinese guns bitubes Type-76A of 37mm and 2 AK-630 of 6x30mm. It has a radar Type 360 and one Type 363 which are radars of detection S/A. Both are radars 2d (which are used by the Chinese navy). As system of attack, it has 2 radars of attack combined with advanced optical systems, a Type 344 and the another more advanced 347G Type using systems of optical aiming very advanced. Moreover, it has two other systems of concerned optronic combining rangefinders laser, Flir, IR and a camera high definition.
TooNs July 2nd, 2007, 03:08 AM I didn't know that Ratel's were operated by the army of Ghana... Any infos about that?
DanteXavier July 2nd, 2007, 06:23 AM I didn't know that Ratel's were operated by the army of Ghana... Any infos about that?
The info seems tought o find-not much is mentioned about them. I do know, however, that Ghana also operates Sisu armored vehciles, as seen in these pics of their peacekeepers in lebanon.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/Afrique/Ghana/wheeled_armoured/sisu/Sisu_Armoured_Ghana_03.jpg
DanteXavier July 2nd, 2007, 11:10 PM Angolan Air Force:
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Massinissa-Algeria July 3rd, 2007, 02:04 AM http://membres.lycos.fr/algeriaaf/wing.gif
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friendsofthecity July 3rd, 2007, 03:12 PM I guess the Algerians are not trying to impress the Moroccans in here.Most of those weapons are outdated guys!
boris89 July 3rd, 2007, 03:23 PM ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ :lol: ^^ :lol: ^^ :lol: ^^ ^^ true
Massinissa-Algeires July 3rd, 2007, 06:30 PM I guess the Algerians are not trying to impress the Moroccans in here.Most of those weapons are outdated guys!
Don’t try to get into the minds of other people. This thread is for African military pics, there for you find Algerian military picas as a country from Africa.
Some Moroccans are seriously sick. There are many Moroccan military pics in this thread, as well, why wouldn’t Algerians say that it is to impress them?
The Algerian arms are to defend our county not to attack, to upgrade them its our problem not yours, you should be happy coz they are old arms. Sick man
icosium July 3rd, 2007, 06:51 PM MASSINISSA DONT BOTHER YOURSELF ANSWER TO POEPLE
YOU LL A LOT OFF THAT
JUST PARTICIPATE IN THE THREAD AND POST INFORMATION
I POSTED SOME PICTURE NAVY ,FIGHTER ,SUBMARINE
ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT ALGERIAN ARMY IS POWERFUL
2 BUDGET IN AFRICA AFTER SOUTH AFRICA (3.5 GDP ALGERIA GDP)
POEPLE NOW THEY HAVE INTERNET TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS TRUE WHAT IS NOT
JUST SOME POEPLE DONT LIKE THE FACT:lol::lol:
AS I TOLD YOU YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN OTHER THREAD AS WELL MASSINISSA NOT JUST ARMY
AUTHERWISE THEY WILL SAY ALGERIA IS JUST SPENDING ON WEAPONS
AMICALLY:cheers:
Don’t try to get into the minds of other people. This thread is for African military pics, there for you find Algerian military picas as a country from Africa.
Some Moroccans are seriously sick. There are many Moroccan military pics in this thread, as well, why wouldn’t Algerians say that it is to impress them?
The Algerian arms are to defend our county not to attack, to upgrade them its our problem not yours, you should be happy coz they are old arms. Sick man
madao July 3rd, 2007, 07:10 PM Don’t try to get into the minds of other people. This thread is for African military pics, there for you find Algerian military picas as a country from Africa.
Some Moroccans are seriously sick. There are many Moroccan military pics in this thread, as well, why wouldn’t Algerians say that it is to impress them?
The Algerian arms are to defend our county not to attack, to upgrade them its our problem not yours, you should be happy coz they are old arms. Sick man
heee hooo
talk about youre one jose:lol:
crazy algerian:nuts:
madao July 3rd, 2007, 07:16 PM http://img219.exs.cx/img219/4334/banderamar1bj.jpg
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madao July 3rd, 2007, 07:19 PM M-60A1
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M-60A3TTS
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t-72BV
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70/80's
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Massinissa-Algeires July 3rd, 2007, 07:29 PM [QUOTE=madao;14073196]
What’s wrong with you man, don’t know the the Western Sahara is a free state? Long life to Polisario long life to Western Sahara.
DanteXavier July 3rd, 2007, 08:28 PM I guess the Algerians are not trying to impress the Moroccans in here.Most of those weapons are outdated guys!
Actually, to be completely honest, both airforces are really somewhat on par. Morrocco, for example, uses F-5 and Mirage F1 fighters-both fairly old aircraft. The Algerians, on the other hand, have older MiG-23s and MiG-25s, but they also use the MiG-29 as their frontline fighter-it is more advanced than the F-5 and the F1. However, as was pointed out earlier, the Mirages have been upgraded for Morrocco, so they're really about even t4echnologically right about now.
That might not last, though. Algeria is set to get new Su-30s beggining this year. Those are some of the most advanced fighters you can get today. They also are going to be getting new Yak-130 jets. The Algerians also have newer MiG-29s now.
So, to match this, Morrocco has been looking to purchase French Rafale fighters. If they can do that, then technologically, the forces will stay even. If the Rafale deal is not finalized by Morrocco, Algeria will pull ahead technologically with it's new purchases.
In terms of their armies...I believe they are also about on par. In terms of armored vehicles, the Algerians do have a slight edge-they have GAZ vodniks, T-80's, and new T-90 tanks. Morrocco only has the T-72, which is still not bad, but not quite as good as the T-90. In terms of personal weaponry, Morrocco matches up as well, if not a little better.
Looking to their navies...I believe they are also close here as well, although again I may have to give a slight edge to Algeria with regards to their larger military spending-they have really stepped up their armament recently and are buying up a lot.
So, overall, I think the militaries are really not that far apart technologically when you compare the side by side.
madao July 3rd, 2007, 11:28 PM Actually, to be completely honest, both airforces are really somewhat on par. Morrocco, for example, uses F-5 and Mirage F1 fighters-both fairly old aircraft. The Algerians, on the other hand, have older MiG-23s and MiG-25s, but they also use the MiG-29 as their frontline fighter-it is more advanced than the F-5 and the F1. However, as was pointed out earlier, the Mirages have been upgraded for Morrocco, so they're really about even t4echnologically right about now.
That might not last, though. Algeria is set to get new Su-30s beggining this year. Those are some of the most advanced fighters you can get today. They also are going to be getting new Yak-130 jets. The Algerians also have newer MiG-29s now.
So, to match this, Morrocco has been looking to purchase French Rafale fighters. If they can do that, then technologically, the forces will stay even. If the Rafale deal is not finalized by Morrocco, Algeria will pull ahead technologically with it's new purchases.
In terms of their armies...I believe they are also about on par. In terms of armored vehicles, the Algerians do have a slight edge-they have GAZ vodniks, T-80's, and new T-90 tanks. Morrocco only has the T-72, which is still not bad, but not quite as good as the T-90. In terms of personal weaponry, Morrocco matches up as well, if not a little better.
Looking to their navies...I believe they are also close here as well, although again I may have to give a slight edge to Algeria with regards to their larger military spending-they have really stepped up their armament recently and are buying up a lot.
So, overall, I think the militaries are really not that far apart technologically when you compare the side by side.
uhmm yess youre right ;)
TooNs July 5th, 2007, 06:08 AM Everything was fine before Masinisa's and Icosium's posts... :ohno: :bash:
icosium July 5th, 2007, 05:43 PM what do you mean ?? what bother you that we post about our country ? ALGERIA
you dont want hear us isnt it ?
by the way what do post ??
never read post by you ,you just post ( reply) that seems like against icosium and massinissa
what is you purpuse here in the forum ??
we posted many information ,news fact project etc....
about ALGERIA seems to me you dont like ALGERIA nothing else :ohno::ohno::ohno:
Everything was fine before Masinisa's and Icosium's posts... :ohno: :bash:
boris89 July 5th, 2007, 06:52 PM O O MOROCCO JUST UPGRADED
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L’annonce officielle de l’acquisition du Rafale par le Maroc pourrait intervenir lors du Salon de l’industrie et des services aéronautiques de Marrakech, qui sera organisé du 25 au 27 octobre prochain. Un moyen, pour le salon, d’asseoir sa notoriété dès sa première édition ? L’annonce ferait, en tout cas, du Maroc le premier importateur de l’avion de combat du groupe français Dassault. Quelques jours après la clôture du salon du Bourget (18-24 juin), la rumeur de l’achat du Rafale par le royaume se confirme donc.
Le 11 juin, déjà, le quotidien économique français Les Échos indiquait que Rabat avait transmis à la France une demande de financement portant sur l’acquisition de 18 appareils pour un montant de 2 milliards d’euros. Le journal ajoutait que la conclusion du contrat pourrait prendre « quelques mois »…
DanteXavier July 5th, 2007, 09:35 PM O O MOROCCO JUST UPGRADED
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L’annonce officielle de l’acquisition du Rafale par le Maroc pourrait intervenir lors du Salon de l’industrie et des services aéronautiques de Marrakech, qui sera organisé du 25 au 27 octobre prochain. Un moyen, pour le salon, d’asseoir sa notoriété dès sa première édition ? L’annonce ferait, en tout cas, du Maroc le premier importateur de l’avion de combat du groupe français Dassault. Quelques jours après la clôture du salon du Bourget (18-24 juin), la rumeur de l’achat du Rafale par le royaume se confirme donc.
Le 11 juin, déjà, le quotidien économique français Les Échos indiquait que Rabat avait transmis à la France une demande de financement portant sur l’acquisition de 18 appareils pour un montant de 2 milliards d’euros. Le journal ajoutait que la conclusion du contrat pourrait prendre « quelques mois »…
Hey, looks like you're right!
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PARIS, June 21 (UPI) -- Morocco is reportedly close to a deal for the purchase of French-made fighters capable of ranging over the vast expanses of the disputed Western Sahara.
The deal between Morocco and Dassault Aviation would come on the heels of negotiations at the United Nations that failed to break the stalemate between Morocco and the separatist Polisario Front that seeks independence for the desert region.
While there has been no official announcement that the deal has been sealed, the MENL news service reported this week that the two sides had settled on a price for up to 20 Rafale fighters.
"Industrial negotiations regarding the sale of the Rafale to Morocco have now been completed and are now in the hands of the two governments," Dassault Aviation Chairman Charles Edelstenne told MENL. "I can't say when those discussions will end, nor what the final outcome will be."
By deploying the Rafale, Morocco will have an asset with a range of more than 1,000 miles and a Mach 1.8 top speed. The twin-engine jet can drop precision-guided bombs and has been doing so in NATO airstrikes in Afghanistan.
Way to go Morocco. Those jets should be there by 2009 at the latest.
icosium July 5th, 2007, 10:47 PM ALGERIA AIR FORCE DEAL
Algeria in Russian weapons deal
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Algeria is buying upgraded MiG 29 fighters
Algeria is to buy $7.5bn (£4.3bn) worth of Russian weapons and combat planes in return for Russia cancelling its debts to Moscow.
Russia agreed to write off the $4.74bn (£2.74bn) Soviet-era debt during a visit by President Vladimir Putin.
It was the first visit by a Russian leader to the North African country in half a century.
Algeria will buy 40 MiG and 20 Sukhoi fighters, and 16 Yak jet trainers, Itar-Tass news agency reported. Also on the shopping list are eight S-300 missile systems and 40 T-90 tanks.
"A serious package of contracts for aircraft has been signed here," the head of MiG, Aleksey Fedorov, told Russia TV.
Algeria's official media confirmed the debt write-off without mentioning the arms deal.
"Algeria and Russia reached agreement on writing off Algeria's debts to Russia, which are estimated at $4.7bn. In return for this, Algeria agreed to buy goods and services from Russia to a value equalling the amount of these debts," state run Channel 3 said.
But independent Algerian newspapers El Watan and L'Expression did note the arms deal, citing Russian sources only, and observing that Algerian officials had not mentioned it.
In neighbouring Morocco, which has tense ties with Algeria over the Western Sahara issue, the official news agency MAP reported the arms-for-debt deal without comment.
President Putin, accompanied by a large business delegation, left Algiers on Friday night after several hours of talks with President Abdelaziz Bouteflika.
icosium July 5th, 2007, 10:54 PM ALGERIA ORDER TWO SUBMARINES
By AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE, SAINT PETERSBURG, Russia
A shipyard in Russia’s northwestern city of Saint Petersburg is to build two Kilo class submarines for the Algerian navy, a source at the yard said on June 29.
According to the contract signed by Russian company Rosvoyoruzheniye and the Algerian defense ministry the Admiralty shipyard will start construction of the first submarine this year and that of the second in 2007, the source said on condition of anonymity.
The Kilos are small electric and diesel powered submarines.
Algeria, which signed a strategic partnership with Russia in 2001, in March signed a $3.5 billion (2.7 billion euro) contract for Russian fighter planes in return for Moscow writing off its debt
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Massinissa-Algeria July 6th, 2007, 01:55 AM L'Algérie et la Russie avaient conclu un accord pour une commande d'équipements de 7,5 milliards de dollars, selon des sources russes.
Le contrat global porte sur la livraison de 34 chasseurs MIG-29 SMT, 28 chasseurs Su-30 MKI et 14 avions d'entraînement et de combat Yak-130 (pour un total de 3,5 milliards de dollars).
De plus, 36 MIG-29 de l'ancienne version, seront renvoyés en Russie pour être vendus à des pays tiers.
Il est prévu aussi la livraison de 8 systèmes de missilesS-300 PMU-2 pour la DCA (un milliard de dollars), 30 batteries sol-air Toungouska, d'une valeur de près de 500 millions de dollars, la modernisation de 250 chars T-72, pour plus de 200 millions de dollars, et la livraison de missiles antichars Metis et Kornet, ainsi que la réparation de navires des forces navales algériennes.
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DanteXavier July 7th, 2007, 08:06 PM South African Army:
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DanteXavier July 7th, 2007, 08:13 PM More African Union troops, this time in Darfur:
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Included in rhe Astrac modernisation package of the Royal Moroccan Air Force for the Mirage F1 is the new AASM precision guided stand-off bomb, as well as Corail flare launcher and Phimat chaff dispenser (all seen here in place). All four AASM 250 kg rocket-bombs can be launched at different targets well away from the ennemy's medium and short ranges air defences. © J.-M. Guhl
Astrac modernises Morocco's Mirages
By Jean-Michel Guhl
in Paris, France
The 2007 Paris Air Show gave Astrac (Association Sagem Thales pour la Rénovation d'Avions de Combat) — the joint-venture created in November 2005, at the French Ministry of Defence's request, by Thales and Sagem Défense Sécurité (SAFRAN) — an opportunity to show what the new company is all about: high-level all-round upgrade refurbishing of third generation fighters.
Capitalizing on the current Royal Air Forces of Morocco’s program for the modernisation of its entire Mirage F1 fleet (a total of 27 remaining Mirage F1CH and EH), Astrac exhibited a complete offer, including two central computers, SIGMA-type GPS-hybrid navigation systems (both developed by Sagem Défense Sécurité), MICA EM and IR air-to-air missiles provided by MBDA. For this retrofitting solution, Thales is contributing with a RDY-3 (or RC 400) 2D multi-function radar, a Damocles day/night laser designation pod, a PAJ FA type pod for electronic warfare self-protection and a CATS 150 radar Warning Receiver (RWR). The different units interface via a 1553 bus.
For the air-to-air mission, the multi-function/multi-target radar can be used to fire MICA and Magic 2 missiles. To meet air-to-ground mission requirements, Astrac offers Sagem Défense Sécurité’s stand-off AASM air-to-ground modular weapon supported by a mission preparation system by Sagem Défense Sécurité and a debriefing systems from Thales. The weapon can be complemented at will by laser guided weapons using the Damocles laser designation pod.
The Astrac offer, which is compatible with NVGs, also includes a 'zero-zero' ejection seat and a latest-generation glass cockpit MMI with Hands on Thottle and Shift (HOTAS) controls. As an option, the system can also be complemented by a system for deploying anti-ship weapons, such as MBDA’s Exocet AM 39.
Ideal for air forces facing strong budget constraints, the Astrac modernising solution offers a real added value to a fighter-bomber like the Mirage F1, an aircraft which is still in operational with some ten air arms where it provides good service thanks to the reliability of its single Snecma Atar 9K50 turbojet.
Morocco awarded France a contract worth around €350 million (US$420 million) two years ago to overhaul the Moroccan Air Force's mixed fleet of 27 Mirage F1CH/EH fighter aircraft. The contract, signed during a visit by former French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin to Rabat on 26-27 September 2005, involves renovating the airframes and avionic suite of the aircraft delivered to the Sherifian kingdom in the late 1980s by Dassault Aviation. Rabat decided to renovate the aircraft instead of buying surplus US F-16 multi-role fighters offerred at low-coast by the USA. The € 350 million package includes around € 100 million for armament for the renovated Mirage F1s. These will be MICA air-to-air missiles made by MBDA as well as Sagem's new AASM 250 kg rocket bombs. Thales and Sagem had previously vied against one another for the contract but were asked by the French government to combine their efforts in a joint venture, thus Astrac. The Royal Moroccan Air Force Mirage F1s, now dubbed Mirage F1M, represent the most modern modernisation programme ever grafted to this French-designed combat aircraft.
Sold in about 740 copies to eleven different countries, the Mirage F1 is still in operational service today in Ecuador, France, Jordan, Libya, Spain and Morocco. A batch of those once belonging to South Africa (Mirage F1AZ) have meanwhile been sold to Gabon, about a dozen of Iraq's Mirage F1EQs 'given' by Saddam Hussein to Iran while those of Kuwait are stored and those of Qatar sold to Spain. Greece's Elleniki Polemiki Aeroporia's last Mirage F1s were retired two years ago and replaced by Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2s, the final batch of which is now being delivered by Dassault-Aviation, thus marking the end of production for the Mirage 2000 too. A likely sale of former French Air Force Mirage F1CTs to Colombia is now in the funnel. No information on this deal is available, although the number of aircraft involved would be around a dozen.
So far, only the Mirage F1s of the Spanish Air Force have been fully modernised by Thales and EADS to an extent certainly not comparable with the Astrac endeavour however. Meanwhile about a dozen long stored Libyan Air Force Mirage F1s are due to be refurbished by Dassault-Aviation. Therefore, the modernisation market for the Mirage F1 is still very open. [Paris-06-25-2007]
One of Astrac's first modernisation programme now in full swing is the Royal Moroccan Air Force Mirage F1 contract © C. Amboise/SIRPA-Air
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icosium July 8th, 2007, 09:22 PM ALGERIA AIR FORCE
Aircraft Source Type Versions In service[1] Notes
Aero L-39 Flag of Czech Republic Czech Republic Advanced trainer; Light attack L-39ZA 36
Beechcraft 1900 Flag of United States United States Transport 1900D 12
Beechcraft King Air Flag of United States United States Utility transport 90 3
Beechcraft Super King Air Flag of United States United States Utility transport
Maritime patrol 200
200T 8
2
Beechcraft T-34 Mentor Flag of United States United States Trainer T-34C 6
Bell 412 Flag of United States United States Transport helicopter 412EP 2 not confirmed
CASA C-295 Flag of Spain Spain Transport 3 10 delivered[2]
Eurocopter Ecureuil Flag of European Union European Union Utility helicopter AS 355N 8
Fokker F27 Flag of Netherlands Netherlands Transport; Maritime patrol F27-400 2
Gulfstream III Flag of United States United States VIP transport 3
Ilyushin Il-76
Ilyushin Il-78 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Transport
Transport
Transport
Tanker Il-76/78 Total
Il-76MD
Il-76TD
Il-78M 17
3
8
6
Kamov Ka-32 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Transport helicopter Ka-32T 3
Kentron Seeker Flag of South Africa South Africa Reconnaissance UAV 8
Lockheed C-130 Hercules Flag of United States United States Transport Hercules total
C-130H
C-130H-30
L-100-30 21
10
8
3
Mikoyan MiG-23 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Fighter MiG-23 total
MiG-23BN
MiG-23MF 56 77 delivered
Mikoyan MiG-25 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Interceptor
Interceptor
Interceptor
Reconnaissance MiG-25 total
MiG-25BDS/RV
MiG-25PDS
MiG-25RU/PU 12 48 delivered
Mikoyan MiG-29 Flag of Russia Russia Fighter MiG-29 total
MiG-29UB
MiG-29SMT 35
Mil Mi-2 Flag of Poland Poland Utility helicopter 1 15 in service with the national police
Mil Mi-8 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Transport helicopter Mi-8
Mi-17 33
42
Mil Mi-35 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Attack helicopter 36 upgraded with ATE systems and named Super Hind[citation needed]
Pilatus PC-6 Flag of Switzerland Switzerland Utility transport 2
Sukhoi Su-24 Flag of Soviet Union Soviet Union / Flag of Russia Russia Strike; Reconnaissance
Strike
Reconnaissance Su-24 total
Su-24MK
Su-24MR 39
20
19
Sukhoi Su-30 Flag of Russia Russia Multirole fighter Su-30MKA 28
28 will be delivered between 2007 and 2009
Yakovlev Yak-130 Flag of Russia Russia Trainer 16
Zlin Z 142 Flag of Algeria Algeria / Flag of Czech Republic Czech Republic Trainer 25
Fernas-142 Flag of Algeria Algeria Trainer 20
Safir-43 Flag of Algeria Algeria Trainer 20
DanteXavier July 11th, 2007, 07:46 PM Nigeria: Soldiers Battle Militants, Kill One, Nab 2
MEN of the Joint Task Force in the Niger Delta, Operation Restore Hope, on Monday evening foiled an attempt by militants to kidnap some Koreans working for an oil service company, Daewoo, at Mbiama, a border town between Bayelsa and Rivers States.
One of the militants was shot dead and two captured alive by soldiers on guard at the company, while other members of the gang escaped.
British toddler, Margaret Hill, who was abducted and freed last Sunday night by militants is still in shock and reacting frightfully to happenings around her, her mother, Oluchi, has said.
The Acting Inspector-General of Police, Mr. Mike Okiro, reacting yesterday to the spate of abductions in the Niger Delta said the situation was hampering the economic growth of the country.
Commander of the JTF, Brigadier-General Lawrence Ngubane, who confirmed the killing of one of the militants and arrest of two others told Vanguard in Warri that dynamites, AK-47 rifle, 60 rounds of 7.62 mm special ammunition and a bus used for the operation were recovered from the kidnappers, who were being held as at 5.00 p.m, yesterday, at Effurun headquarters of the Task Force.
The Task Force has since beefed up security in the company and residents of Yenagoa are happy that the soldiers were able to thwart the ambition of the militants.
Commander, Army Task Force, Colonel A. O. Umahi, who briefed newsmen at the JTF headquarters in Effurun said the militants arrived the company in a bus at about 9.40 p.m. on Monday and started firing into the air to scare and intimidate the occupants.
He said the troops withstood their firepower and eventually overpowered them, killing one and capturing two, while others fled. Umahi said no JTF man was injured in the gun battle.
Vanguard gathered that unlike sometime, last year, when the militants were able to overrun a site at Ogu, on the Yenagoa water front, the battle-ready military men gave the militants no room to advance and the only option left for them was either to surrender or retreat into the forest.
The remains of the deceased milita2nt and the two others captured were first conveyed to the JTF base in Yenagoa Monday night and later transferred to the security outfit headquarters in Effurun yesterday
Meanwhile, motorists going in and out of Yenagoa were subjected to thorough screening at checkpoints mounted by men of the Joint Task Force, backed by armoured tanks while gunboats were sighted patrolling the Yenagoa water front.
Margaret in shock
British toddler, Margaret Hill, who was freed last Sunday night after four days in captivity, is still in shock and reacting frightfully to happenings around her environment, her mother, Oluchi , has said.
"When she sees security men with gun, especially those around us, she jerks and holds tight to me or her father. She wakes up with a startle every now and then. I try often to be awake to talk her to sleep," Oluchi said.
Speaking to Vanguard in her Port Harcourt residence, yesterday, Oluchi said the girl had never been exposed to such treatment of being threatened with knife or gun. She was just a little sweet girl who loved her environment and felt free always.
She said, but "the girl has changed and I know this because every mother knows how her child reacts to situations or behaves", adding that she was being treated by "an expatriate doctor of malaria, shock and other ailments that we have discovered since" she regained her freedom.
"I couldn't eat or sleep for the days she was held and it was very traumatic for us, myself, the father and the entire household. We shall be taking her abroad very soon for an exhaustive medical attention," Oluchi said.
Yar'Adua sends solidarity message
Meanwhile, President Umaru Yar'Adua has sent a message of solidarity through his spokesman, Mr. Segun Adeniyi, to Mr. and Mrs. Hill on the release of their daughter by those who took her captive last week.
Yar'Adua's message which was delivered by Adeniyi at the home of the Hills said he and his family shared with the Hills their pain and anguish while the abduction lasted. He was gladdened by the fact that Nigerians rose in unison to condemn the abduction of Margaret.
"Our nation rose up as one against the horrendous inhumanity of the violent kidnapping of an innocent three-year old on her way to school. Her safe return was mainly due to the overwhelming pressure which leaders of the local communities, the state government and federal security agents brought to bear on her abductors," he said.
He prayed "this harsh ordeal does not leave any lasting scars on the psyche of your brave little girl," and expressed confidence that the present administration would work towards an enduring peace and security in the Niger Delta.
Reacting to speculations that the Federal Government acted swiftly in seeking the release of the child because of her half British parentage, the spokesman said it was not true and that government was sensitive to every such incident.
"If you have been following events, even internationally, you will realise that some events happen that catch the attention of the world like the abduction of this three-year old girl. There is no life that is more important than the other..
"The three-year-old girl is a Nigerian, the mother is a Nigerian. It is not a question of whether the girl is British. It has to do with the circumstance of the abduction. The girl was going to school and the car was broken into. The thing was done in a commando style. Maybe, it was the manner of the abduction, which caught the attention of the world and the demanding of ransom for a three-year-old girl, these are the issues. It is not as if the girl was more important than anyone else," he said.
Okiro raises alarm
Inspector-General of Police, Mkr. Mike Okiro, yesterday raised an alarm over the danger posed to Nigeria's economy by the activities of Niger Delta militants, saying they were not only hampering the growth of the area but also scaring away expatriates whose input are needed for rapid development of the country.
Consequently, he ordered Commissioners of Police of Niger Delta states and other volatile states in the country to work out a new strategy of checkmating the activities of militants in whatever form as the nation could no longer tolerate the negative consequences of their actions.
Speaking at a meeting with DIGs, AIGs and all states' CPs, Okiro said: "We are not happy about the incidence of hostage taking which is now happening in various corners and assuming new dimensions. So I am directing that you (CPs) must take immediate actions to ensure there is no more hostage taking."
Observing that enough sensitisation was needed in the Niger Delta to make the militants understand the consequences of their actions, the IG said: "A situation where the Niger Delta people have been complaining of lack of development, complaining of marginalisation, and the government has come to develop the area, yet the militants are not allowing improvement is worrisome.
"They (government) award contract to foreigners to build roads, build bridges, and the contractors are kidnapped. Where they build factories to generate employment for the youths, the workers are kidnapped. Even the Port Harcourt Airport which was to be developed has stopped work because the workers are afraid they will be kidnapped.
"And the East-West road, which I am told is the highest single contract ever awarded by the Federal Government, has been abandoned because the workers are afraid of being kidnapped. These are the areas we have to sensitise the people to let them realise that if they kidnap these workers, they are denying development to the Niger Delta area," he said.
Revealing that other interests might be cashing in on the lucrative business of kidnapping, Okiro said: "During investigation when we arrested one or two people connected with kidnapping, we found out that even the suspects who did the kidnapping are from states contiguous to the Niger Delta and not in Niger Delta per se. So you find that this act is completely a criminal matter, not political."
Dead ASP, others promoted
Meanwhile, the Police ASP who lost his life when officers of the Edo State Police Command confronted seven dare-devil armed robbers, killed them and recovered the N7. 5 million the robbers earlier stole from the Ikpoba Hill branch of UBA, Mr. Joseph Atahudo, has been promoted Deputy Superintendent post-humously by the Inspector General for gallantry.
Also, other 24 officers who partook in the operation that eventually led to the success against the robbers have been promoted to the next rank.
Commissioner of Police, Edo State, Mr Abass Hassan, had earlier told reporters that two AK-49 rifles, two Pump Action Rifles and one Tripod Rifle as well as 79 rounds of live ammunition were recovered from the robbers.
DanteXavier July 11th, 2007, 07:55 PM Bush Picks Black General To Lead Africa Operations
U.S. President George W. Bush on Tuesday nominated Army Gen. William Ward to lead the new Africa Command.
Reuters photo: www.eucom.mil U.S. President George W. Bush on Tuesday nominated Army Gen. William Ward, the highest ranking black in the U.S. military, to lead the new Africa Command and coordinate military operations on the continent.
Bush's decision in February to create Africa Command came after months of discussion inside the Pentagon and reflected increasing U.S. strategic interest in the continent and worry that Islamic militants were finding safe haven there.
Ward, who must be confirmed by the Senate, is only the fifth black man to attain a fourth star, making him a full general.
"I am honored by President Bush's and (Defense) Secretary (Robert) Gates' confidence and look forward to the confirmation process," Ward said in a prepared statement.
U.S. military and intelligence assessments have for years pointed to potential threats in Africa posed by weak governments and ungoverned spaces as well as humanitarian crises and armed conflicts.
Al Qaeda carried out near simultaneous car bombings at the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, in 1998, killing more than 250 people.
Since then, the United States began counterterrorism training for local armies in West and Central Africa and this year launched air strikes targeting al Qaeda militants in Somalia.
Washington also is interested in the potential offered by Africa's natural resources, especially as the United States tries to reduce dependence on oil from the Middle East.
The U.S. military assigns responsibility for parts of the world to regional commands. Africa is now divided between European Command, responsible for Europe and most of Africa, and Central Command, responsible for the Middle East and Horn of Africa.
Africa Command will first be part of European Command and have some operational capability by October. It should be a stand-alone, operational command by the end of fiscal year 2008, which ends Sept. 30, 2008.
The Pentagon has not decided where to put Africa Command's headquarters. Ryan Henry, principal deputy undersecretary of defense for policy, in June said the command might set up staff offices at different places around the continent.
http://www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=61123
icosium July 11th, 2007, 08:40 PM http://fyollande.skyrock.com/pics/1010215272_small.jpg
algeria and italia coperation
The Italian patrol craft the Commander Segala Fulgosi P490 making stopover with the port of Oran since day before yesterday, within the framework of a series of common exercises with the called Algerian naval forces Medex Italy and which will proceed until July 15, accomodated on its board, in the day of yesterday, of the journalists. For this purpose, a press conference was organized there and this, in the presence of the person in charge for the cell of communication of the Algerian naval forces. At the time of this point of press in which the military attaché of Italian defense took part, colonel Martni and the chief of detachment colonel Tedoni, this one estimated that Algeria is an important partner of Italy. He will recall that it is since 2003 that exists a draft-agreement binding the two ministries for national Defense and who envisages, in particular, a dozen activities to hold every two years. The man?uvres, which have been held for 2 years with broad of Oran, are the 4e edition of the kind and today, the operations which will have place at sea proceed under the Algerian command.
DanteXavier July 16th, 2007, 03:33 AM More photos!:banana:
Senegal:
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5518/senegaleserallyeuv5.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9214/senegaleseairforcepilotyv5.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/9790/senegalesemi35bb0.jpg
Namibia:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/723/namibianhindinrunduao1.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4300/namibiami820hipfc5.jpg
Mali:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3339/malianmigvf3.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9729/maliairforcemigsinahangpq4.jpg
Morocco:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5087/morrocanmilitaryparadetva6.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/209/morrocanairforcepilotvt6.jpg
Libyan police:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2438/libyanpoliceofficershn5.jpg
And, as a bonus, some Ethiopian jews serving in the Israeli military:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5904/israelisoldiersonexcerctg4.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1276/israelisoldierwh0.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5974/israeltwinbrothersservimb2.jpg
icosium July 20th, 2007, 05:50 PM http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=251&u=11042053
http://i19.servimg.com/u/f19/11/02/97/60/pdvd_010.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:01 AM http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=22&u=11029760
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:03 AM http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/t7200022.jpg
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:05 AM http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/bmp10013.jpg
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:09 AM http://pix.nofrag.com/1c/9e/3588a463cf943c5c2f7980a7938f.jpg
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:11 AM http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/12/71/57/p7030120.jpg
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:17 AM http://pix.nofrag.com/db/4c/79c9057fba4ddaa2a0a113bd4b6d.jpg
special forces
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 07:21 AM http://pix.nofrag.com/b4/d0/b9d610ad28def115bf07f45e5c6b.jpg
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DanteXavier July 21st, 2007, 08:24 AM Angolan Air Force:
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http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7026/angolansu22justchillingqm3.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:09 PM algeria police special forces
http://www.casimages.com/img/jpg/07072102333310246890429.jpg
gendarmes forces
http://pix.nofrag.com/ed/c7/3905c1aa1393570f06725a31d0f6.html
http://pix.nofrag.com/d8/10/47842431e093ae7ca1c022722c1d.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/21/2b/7c676735277e571bee88db1eced7.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/95/26/845fe5f7ce8514742e3e2b0c97f2.jpg
night vision
http://pix.nofrag.com/f9/fb/05779c604590eaa2a5f23584c997.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/e2/a0/2e12cc5f0c777a0dbe6d99add96b.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM algeria marines special forces
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http://pix.nofrag.com/bf/36/d9a36ca0a0d532d802e31b43b5f9.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:19 PM algeria army in mountains (anti -terroristes operations)
http://pix.nofrag.com/d2/59/56aae5cc9decf38907c9fb91a643.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/e5/d1/f48dd54061f8553c5811058ddc4d.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:24 PM algeria air force
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http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/mig29016.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:26 PM http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/su240010.jpg
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refuel in the sky (sukhoi 24 )
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icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:28 PM http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/15/85/47/clipbo10.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:42 PM algeria navy
corvette in construction (algeria) class djebel chinoise
http://pix.nofrag.com/0c/00/e48d2f42d09536f00cd435941ddf.jpg
algeria corvette (made)
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/sansti12.jpg
inside
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/3011.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6233/9abril20070073aa8.jpg
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/8798/9abril20070046oo2.jpg
icosium July 21st, 2007, 05:49 PM algeria submarine
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/19311.jpg
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/22711.jpg
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/23711.jpg
el kebir vedette ( made in algeria-uk ) coperation
http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/kebir010.jpg
DanteXavier July 25th, 2007, 02:06 AM More Moroccan Military pics:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/1046/morroccodassaultfalcondv0.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3425/morroccomiragehd6.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4089/morroccot34xt7.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/1120/moroccanpantherkv3.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4688/morocconavyrh9.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7356/morroccoalphajetrq3.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9482/morroccannavygw1.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4950/morroccanhummeree2.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9940/morroccansoldiershq2.jpg
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7668/morroccansoldierschillilm7.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9967/morroccanpantherta8.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9093/morrocconavalpantherow8.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8746/moroccohelovg6.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1623/morroccanhelosrw2.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5009/morroccomirageintheairaj0.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7996/morroccanalphajetna2.png
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8179/moroccoalphajetvg6.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5159/moroccanalphajetsey8.jpg
icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:05 AM http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/5741/jpo2007001vw9.jpg
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icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:08 AM http://www.uuaz.ru/eng/pic/gallery3/img11.jpg
http://www.uuaz.ru/eng/pic/gallery3/img2.jpg
http://www.newpressphoto.com/Newpress/banque/SSecurite/FORCES%20AERIENNES/algeria_24.JPG
icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:12 AM http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/mi240014.jpg
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icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:24 AM http://fulcrumaaf.skyrock.com/pics/394459321_small.jpg
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icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:27 AM http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/7269/clipboard01mg0.jpg
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icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:32 AM http://i19.servimg.com/u/f19/11/15/85/47/clipbo15.jpg
fregatte in algeria (under construction -mers el kebir algeria)
with the help russia will look like this one
http://www.air-defense.net/dossier/476/intro476.jpg
icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:42 AM http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/11/15/85/47/djebel13.jpg
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icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:45 AM plane made in algeria
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http://www.aeronautique.ma/photo/495525-606185.jpg
http://www.aeronautique.ma/photo/495525-606199.jpg
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icosium July 25th, 2007, 08:47 AM http://pix.nofrag.com/4d/27/8c2d31b9eb4c51003e5489deceaa.jpg
DanteXavier July 25th, 2007, 01:22 PM South African Army:
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http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9719/southafricanarmytrenchcon2.jpg
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http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6220/southafricanoryxinactiobp7.jpg
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http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5338/southafricansoldiersundwk2.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9831/southafricansoldieryl9.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7805/southafricancasspirspf8.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1345/southafricaarmorlx2.jpg
Kingofthehill July 25th, 2007, 04:20 PM Angolan An-74
Here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1239407/L/)
Angolan ERJ-135BJ Legacy
Here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1231430&WxsIERv=Rzoenre%20RZO-135OW%20Yrtnpl&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Natbyn%20-%20Nve%20Sbepr&QtODMg=Erpvsr%20-%20Thnenencrf%20%28ERP%20%2F%20FOES%29&ERDLTkt=Oenmvy&ktODMp=Whyl%202%2C%202007&BP=1&WNEb25u=Abeznaqb%20Pneinyub%20We.&xsIERvdWdsY=CG-FUG&MgTUQtODMgKE=Svefg%20REW-135OW%20Yrtnpl%20sbe%20Natbyn%20Nve%20Sbepr.%20Qryvirel%20syvtug%20fgvyy%20jrnevat%20znahsnpghere%20ertvfgengvba.%20Gb%20or%20er-ertvfgrerq%20G-501.&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1561&NEb25uZWxs=2007-07-04%2009%3A53%3A44&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=14500981&static=yes&width=1024&height=715&sok=JURER%20%20%28nveyvar%20%3D%20%27Natbyn%20-%20Nve%20Sbepr%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=2&prev_id=1239407&next_id=1227159)
nairoberry July 26th, 2007, 01:32 AM No revenge’ philosophy behind Kenya’s stability
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By Kioi Mbugua
It is not difficult to see why Kenya has remained considerably stable in spite of unstable political, social and economic systems.
Kenya was founded on British colonial heritage with all the baggage that goes with that. It has been argued that ‘Berlin’ boundaries that divided ethnic nations are a major source of conflict in Africa. But some countries that were under the British such as Ghana and Kenya have demonstrated remarkable potential in political stability and peace.
A strong bureaucratic system and culture bequeathed to the independent states may explain this. In Angola and Mozambique, the Portuguese did not have long-term investments in the colonies. Independent governments inherited an unstable political and social system. This partially explains why Angola and Mozambique remained unstable for the better part of their independent period.
The Kenyatta regime entrenched political stability through recognition of minorities then united under Kadu. It is interesting that Kenyatta retained a Kadu Vice-President to succeed him against popular will from his political base in central Kenya.
The no revenge political culture has cemented fundamental values in politics — Kenyatta did not revenge against the British for his long incarceration and he prevailed against Mau Mau followers and homeguards not to settle scores.
President Moi did not substantively destabilise the Kenyatta State though he scuttled his political elite and constituency when he sensed that his reign was under threat. Kibaki, perhaps the best gentleman among them, has retained a substantial part of the Moi bureaucracy and has had no time to settle scores in the Rift Valley.
Kenya has replaced leadership through democratic means and elections since independence. Whatever accusations may be levelled against elections, the nation’s picture has been one of the brightest in Africa.
The society has also evolved a relative culture of peace. The so-called spirit of hospitality many foreigners often cite may be a manifestation of a stoic people’s capacity for tolerance and endurance. Though there are many resources, cross border and ethnic conflicts, the national system still demonstrates capacity for resilience.
Kenya maintains a professional and apolitical army. Unlike Uganda, Rwanda, Eritrea and Ethiopia, where the military took power after fighting long guerrilla wars, Kenya has developed a fairly representative and national army. Its services at UN missions have rated the institution highly internationally. The schisms in 1964, 1971 and 1982 pale in significance compared to other countries.
Ethnicity is more political than social. Most Kenyans have no problem with members of different ethnic groups. The problem arises when there is competition for resources and this is orchestrated through power politics. However, the politics of ethnicity may be our greatest threat. When Kanu was perceived as a party of big ethnic groups, Kikuyu and Luo, Kenyatta struck a gentleman’s agreement with Kadu, then perceived as a party of small ethnic groups. This unity has solidified in successive regimes.
The political field has been reduced to a boardroom democracy between ethnic barons of five major ethnic groups namely: Kikuyu, Luhya, Kalenjin, Luo and Kamba. The rest have to choose which bandwagon to align themselves with.
The big challenge for the political system is whether to evolve a non-ethnic, ideology-based movement such as Tanzania’s Cha Cha Mapinduzi or a constitutional dispensation based on proportional representation.
This rift valley defines party politics in ODM-Kenya and Narc-Kenya and informs the unending constitutional reforms quagmire. Nothing short of a constitutional re-engineering will redefine the political landscape.
icosium July 28th, 2007, 02:43 AM Algeria: dangerous nuclear secrecy
http://isaintel.com/site/images/stories/algeria%20nuclear%20research%20reactor%20from%20isis%20large.jpg
Algeria nuclear research reactor from ISIS2007-07-27
With the world's attention focused on the Iranian nuclear program, little heed is being paid to a new wave of nuclear development plans on Europe's doorstep, exemplified in moves to expand Algeria's nuclear program, which many believe is intended to create a nuclear weapons capacity.
As Algeria emerges from over a decade of internecine bloodshed, prospects are growing for the significant expansion of the country's secretive nuclear program, which many analysts believe was formed with the specific intention of creating a nuclear weapons capacity.
With world attention focused on the Iranian program, nuclear powers are jostling for lucrative nuclear contracts as the shackles on atomic development imposed by the US over proliferation concerns are broken.
Secretive program
In 1982, Algeria announced its intention to build an atomic program capable of supplying up to 10 percent of the country's energy needs, despite the country's abundant oil and gas reserves.
A secret deal was signed with China in 1983 for the fabrication of the 15MW Es Salam reactor at Ain Oussera, around 270 kilometers south of the capital Algiers. The reactor came on line in 1993, while the site also houses a related research facility.
There have been concerns since the early 1990s that the ancillary facility may have been utilized in the small-scale separation of plutonium from spent reactor fuel.
A confidential report by Spain's Cesid intelligence agency, leaked to El Pais in August 1998, claimed that within two years the reactor would be capable of producing up to 3 kilograms of weapons-grade plutonium per year - enough for at least one nuclear weapon per annum.
A Federation of American Scientists (FAS) study notes that the deployment of a Sa-5 anti-missile battery near Ain Oussera at the time of its discovery is "a key indicator of the military nature of this site."
The existence of the facility was uncovered by US intelligence agencies in 1991. Under strong US pressure, Algeria signed an IAEA safeguards agreement in 1992 and became a Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) member in 1995.
A second 1MW, Argentine-built research reactor is situated at Druria, 20km south of Algiers.
The government says that the reactors are used for research, including studies on desalination and food preservation, while critics counter that the 15MW capacity of the Es Salam reactor is far beyond that needed for scientific research purposes.
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspections of the Ain Oussera site found that the Algerian authorities had failed to declare several iters of heavy water, 3 kilograms of enriched uranium and several pellets of natural uranium supplied by China. However, the inspections have found little evidence of a weapons program.
The military appears to have made a decision - likely under significant US pressure - at some point not to push ahead with moves towards a nuclear weapons' capacity.
However, in light of current tensions, Algeria appears determined to at least build a technological capacity and knowledge-base for a future reappraisal in the event of a regional nuclear arms race.
Jostling for position
Algeria's primary ally, the US, appears to be best positioned to snare major future atomic contracts after signing a 9 June protocol on future civilian nuclear cooperation.
Russia and Algeria also signed a memorandum of understanding on nuclear development in January. Russia seems set to parlay recent agreements to coordinate exploration, production and marketing for Algeria's underdeveloped oil and natural gas fields into future deals on joint atomic projects.
France has reportedly rejected a similar partnership deal due to reservations concerning the future expansion of the Algerian program.
Nevertheless, French energy giant Areva has won a series of Algerian electricity infrastructure fabrication deals in recent years and is likely to be a strong contender in a bidding war for future reactor deals.
In 2006, South Korean and Algerian officials held discussions on nuclear cooperation as the former sought to swap its nuclear know-how and technologies for access to Algeria's carbon reserves.
It is unclear what role current atomic partner China will play in any expansion of the Algerian nuclear program, though its continued involvement in activities at Ain Oussera can be expected.
The Algerian atomic energy agency, Comena, appears well-positioned to play competing atomic suitors off against each other but is likely to give the more lucrative contracts to the US after encouraging a bidding war to push down reactor costs and win commitments to the underwriting of the same.
The Algerian government has yet to elaborate on these plans, but the World Nuclear Association (WNA) notes it has established a two-decade framework for building a nuclear generation capacity.
In announcing his country's plans for a nuclear energy program on 25 November, Minister of Energy and Mineral Resources Shakib Khalil said the expanded program would utilize Algeria's substantial uranium deposits.
Algeria is linking arms with other Non-Aligned Movement states to oppose IAEA-backed US and Russian moves to control and delimit global nuclear fuel supplies and reprocessing activities. It has also expressed strong support for Iran's right to atomic development.
According to a BBC report, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad offered support for the Algerian program during a visit by Khelil to Tehran three days after the nuclear announcement. The Algerian minister responded that Algeria "is very interested in Iranian expertise in various fields, especially in oil, gas and nuclear energy."
The US will be keen to prevent the extension of Iranian influence into North Africa and the development of an autonomous Algerian uranium enrichment and fuel reprocessing capacity.
Security concerns
In December last year, Khelil established a security watchdog for monitoring nuclear stations and the use and burial of atomic waste, in an indication that the US is unhappy with established safety mechanisms.
The security of Algerian nuclear facilities is a subject of concern following a series of insurgent bombings this year, including attacks on army barracks and police; a government office in Algiers; and the first assassination strike in years against a high-level government official.
The largest remaining Islamic insurgent movement, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), appears to be undergoing something of a resurgence.
The group now styles itself the al-Qaida Organization in the Islamic Maghreb, though its actual operational links to international al-Qaida are believed to be tenuous at best. However, the movement has signaled its intentions to follow al-Qaida-linked groups in other regional states in targeting oil and gas facilities crucial to the national economy. Two buses carrying oil workers were attacked on 11 December 2006.
Potentially devastating attacks on nuclear facilities could cause even greater embarrassment to the government while encouraging investors and potential atomic partners to shy away from Algeria.
It is clear that the Algerian government's growing interest in nuclear energy and its decision to actively seek international atomic partnerships are key factors driving the Tunisian, Libyan and Moroccan decisions to study the possibilities for their own nuclear energy programs.
Libya and Tunisia signed nuclear cooperation deals with France in 2006, with the Tunisians planning the fabrication of a 600MW plant for electricity and desalination.
WNA reports that Russia's Atomstroiexport is already involved in feasibility studies for a nuclear power reactor to be built in neighbor and rival Morocco by 2016-17.
Algerian nuclear activities are also both influenced by and are a secondary motivating factor in Egypt's September 2006 decision to investigate a multi-reactor generation program.
Given regional tensions, ongoing security instability and concerns regarding the country's nuclear record, the decisions by several nuclear powers to pursue atomic partnership agreements with Algeria are short-sighted.
This significant policy shift contributes to building the geo-strategic environment in which a regional nuclear arms race is made possible.
icosium August 2nd, 2007, 07:12 AM http://fyollande.skyrock.com/pics/604523962.jpg
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DanteXavier August 3rd, 2007, 05:32 AM Sudanese Government Army:
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/946/sudanesemilitaryvehicleta2.jpg
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/954/sudanesearmyxy4.jpg
Kingofthehill August 3rd, 2007, 09:14 AM ^ Iranian APC and Sudanese-Iranian propaganda!
:lol:
I'll post some pictures later, mainly aircraft/helicopters though!
DanteXavier August 3rd, 2007, 10:33 AM ^ Iranian APC and Sudanese-Iranian propaganda!
It's a match made in heaven-really!
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/378/sudanesepresidentwithirtp2.jpg
Look, they're perfect for each other.:lol:
africa500 August 3rd, 2007, 12:19 PM Sudanese military industry is progressing very fast,with relations with belarussia,turkey,iran,pakistan,china.
I dont have photos,and the web site of the sudanese military production is announced to be online from last year but nothing...
icosium August 5th, 2007, 08:00 AM salam nuclear reactor (research ) peaceful
in the 90 (after gulf war 1) western news paper focused a lot about algeria nuclear program
algeria has 10/100 off uranium deposit in the world
might be alternative to the oil and gaz in the futur
http://fyollande.skyrock.com/pics/698517719.jpg
http://fyollande.skyrock.com/pics/698515498.jpg
http://fyollande.skyrock.com/pics/698516474.jpg
DanteXavier August 6th, 2007, 11:18 AM Eight killed in Somali violence
At least eight people were killed in attacks in southern and central Somalia, during which four people were also wounded, witnesses said on Tuesday.
In a one-hour gun battle between 40 heavily armed insurgents and government soldiers in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, two men and a four year-old child were killed, said Abdi Mo'alin Mohamed, a clan elder.
"I woke up with the noise of vehicles and men shouting 'God is Great'. I peeped from my rooftop and saw about 40 men armed with heavy machine-guns and RPGs [rocket-propelled grenade launchers], who arrived in five vehicles and started immediately firing at government bases," said Omar Haji, who lives near a government base that came under attack late on Monday.
Dr Dahir Dhere of Medina Hospital said a solder died from his wounds and staff were treating a civilian injured in the attack.
Deputy Defence Minister Salad Ali Jelle said remnants of the ousted Islamic courts and allied insurgents were responsible for the attack.
"Terrorists of the remnants of the courts and insurgents, who are not happy with any kind of administration in Somalia, are always behind such attacks," said Jelle.
Separately, two children and their father were killed when Ethiopian troops fired artillery shells into a residential area after a landmine exploded as their convoy patrolled a northern part of the central Somali town of Belet Weyne, witnesses said.
A 60-year-old man also died of shock when an artillery shell ripped through his house, said Abdi Adow, a neighbour. Three other people were wounded in the attack, he said.
Salad Aden Indhagir, a minibus driver, said he saw three Ethiopian soldiers lying on the ground after the landmine exploded, but he did not know whether they were dead.
Mogadishu has seen little peace since Ethiopian troops supporting Somalia's fragile government drove out a radical Islamic group in December. Roadside bombs, attacks on government installations, assassination attempts and gun battles have become common. Civilians often are caught in the crossfire.
Insurgents linked to the Islamic movement have vowed to launch an Iraq-style guerrilla war until the country becomes an Islamic state.
Hundreds of thousands of people have fled the violence in the capital.
Somalia has been mired in chaos since 1991, when warlords overthrew dictator Mohamed Siad Barre and then turned against one another, defending clan fiefdoms. The government was formed in 2004 with the help of the United Nations, but has struggled to assert any real control. -- Sapa-AP
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=315467&area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__africa/
DanteXavier August 6th, 2007, 11:25 AM Somalia: Insurgent Attacks Kill Three Including a Govt. Official Overnight
Unknown gunmen killed the chairman of Mogadishu's Yaqshid district, Haji Ali Fidow, last night. Family members told Shabelle on Saturday that several men armed with pistols and AK 47 guns riding in a minibus riddled Mr. Fidow with bullets while sitting inside his home.
"One of the killers knocked at the door and when the door was opened, they opened fire killing Jaji Ali," said one of the family members, who asked to remain anonymous in fear of reprisal.
Witnesses said a pedestrian was also killed by the crossfire. The incident took place at 7: 30 p.m. local time.
Mohammed Muhyidiin Ali, the spokesman of Mogadishu mayor, expressed his sorrow and said the government will track down the murderers. "We are very sorry for the unfortunate death of Mr. Ali and the administration of Banadir will take measure against killers. We will hunt them down," he said.
Several government district commissioners have been killed since Mohammed Dheere, mayor of Mogadishu, appointed district officials nearly four months ago.
In a similar incident, a government soldier was killed in Afgoi district, 30 kilometers west of the capital, Mogadishu.
The commander of Somali armed forces in Afgoi, Col. Ibrahim Isaq, told Shabelle by phone Saturday that unknown gunmen assassinated the soldier.
"He was on vacation and he was not wearing his army uniform when the gunmen killed him," he said, indicating one person was wounded in the incident.
He said the military troops in the district were given the order to investigate by launching house-to-house search operations in the neighborhoods.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200708040060.html
DanteXavier August 6th, 2007, 11:32 AM Uganda army takes over oil company security following attack on oil
team
The Uganda People's Defense Force ( UPDF) has taken over the security of foreign oil company based along Lake Albert in western Uganda following a deadly armed attack on a barge carrying an oil drilling team on Friday morning.
"It was generally agreed that we review the entire security arrangement as the government forces will take over from private security organizations," Energy and Mineral Development Minister Daudi Migereko was quoted by Daily Monitor on Saturday as saying.
He said he had met with Defense Minister Crispus Kiyonga and all the oil excavating companies, the London-based Tullow Oil and Heritage Oil from Canada.
The UPDF has blamed the attack on Congolese government troops, the FARDC, which occurred on Friday early morning killing a British surveyor while a formal protest message was sent to the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) through diplomatic channel.
According to the UPDF, at least one Congolese soldier was killed and one wounded during the exchange of fire between the attackers and oil security guards, backed by UPDF soldiers, near Rukwanzi Island.
Four UPDF soldiers were arrested by DRC forces last weekend around Rukwanzi Island, who accused them of crossing into Congolese territory.
The Congolese government has reportedly deployed its army on the border with Uganda following the attack on the oil barge in Lake Albert in the early hours of Friday.
Heritage owns two concessions in a 50-50 partnership with Tullow Oil on Lake Albert's eastern shores and in Pakwach district. Tullow also wholly owns one block in Hoima district where the attack happened.
Though still at an exploratory stage, Heritage and Tullow have both found oil in the areas of their concessions with an estimated reserve of up to a billion barrels.
Oil exploration work by Heritage at Rukwanzi Island has been halted following the attack. The barge, on which the exploration camp had been established, was returned to Kingfisher main camp on Friday.
Uganda invaded the DRC in 1998 in a bid to fight the rebels of the Allied Democratic Forces, but instead took part in a five-year civil war the dragged in six more countries killing estimated two million Congolese.
The recent skirmish is likely to sour relations again between the two countries.
"These skirmishes are because of the oil being explored. The Congolese soldiers seem to be convinced that some of those oil wells are in their country since the demarcation line between the two countries does not seem to be clear on the water," said a security source quoted by state-owned New Vision on Saturday.
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/6232294.html
DanteXavier August 8th, 2007, 02:16 PM Some photos from the Ivory Coast's Military:
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7669/ivoiriansoldiersnr3.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8776/ivorianarmygt5.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4/ivorianpresidentreviewsza3.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/96/ivoriantroopsqi4.jpg
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/241/ivorianhighcommanleftspbb1.jpg
DanteXavier August 9th, 2007, 10:13 PM South African Air Force:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3851/southafricanairforcehawki8.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3764/southafricanairforcechejn3.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9183/southafricanairforceim7.jpg
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4782/southafricanairforcepc7na3.jpg
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9791/southafricanairforcepc7ai1.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6120/southafricanairforcesilfh0.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9070/southafricanhawkpi8.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9889/southafricadasaultfalcoqg3.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/487/southafricasilverfalconhq3.jpg
DanteXavier August 9th, 2007, 10:14 PM Kenyan Air Force:
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7426/kenyantigersd0.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1535/kenyantucanobk2.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/9246/kenyantigercz5.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6504/kenyancaribouez2.jpg
DanteXavier August 9th, 2007, 10:16 PM Chadian Air Force:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2013/chadianan26ac4.jpg
Libyan Air Force:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9432/libyanairforcegaleb1018dr6.jpg
Zimbabwean Air Force:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8108/zimbabweanhawkes9.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3495/zimbabweanhawkzp4.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3787/zimbabweanhawkszv6.jpg
Egypt:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7233/egyptianairforcejf8.jpg
Niger:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6608/nigerairforcehipja3.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9707/nigerairforceheloit5.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9702/nigerjd9.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2417/nigerhindlandingly3.jpg
Kingofthehill August 12th, 2007, 12:28 AM First off a treat for you Dante (not African but oh well)
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=139119
Angolan Police Squirrel
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=121794&stc=1&d=1145238362
Angolan AS-365
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111145
Botswana Defender
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/855/bn2a3defendercf3.jpg
Burkina Faso Mi-17
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124305
Burkino Faso SF-260
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=127195
Cameroon AS-332
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111160
Cape Verdean EMB-110
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/EMB.jpg
Chad PC-7
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/PC-2.jpg
Chad Mi-17
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=128487
Chad C-130
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=128489
Congo C-130
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/C-4.jpg
Congo Mi-26
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Mi-27.jpg
Congo SA-365N Dauphin (wtf, they are in dire poverty? smh)
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124309
Dijibouti Mi-24
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=126007
Dijibouti Mi-17
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=126008
Egyptian Commando
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=154066
Egyptian Commando unloading the coffin of the late Yassir Arafat :(
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124626
Egyptian SH-2 SeaSprite
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=109274
Eritrean Su-27
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=153908
Ethiopian Mi-17
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=127195
Gabon Puma
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111163
Ghana A-109
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=127358
Guinea SA-330 Puma
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111131
Ivory Coast Mi-24
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=123252
Ivory Coast Su-25
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124311
Kenyan Y-12
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124304
Libyan Mi-8
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=121791
Libyan CH-47s
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=122216
Libyan C-130C
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=122223
Lesotho Casa C-212
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=110185
Malawi Dornier-228
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=112807
Malawi AS-350
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111155
Moroccan Navy Panther
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=109651
Nigerian Navy A-109
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=109215
Nigerian C-130s (damn, they can't take care of anything!!)
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=113235
South African C-130
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=110319
South African DC-3T MPA!
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111682
South African Oryx
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111684
South African Turbo Dak!
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=120247
Sudanese F-5
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=122321
Sudanese Mi-35
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=123246
Swazi Arava
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111040
Togo Alloutte III
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124306
Tunisian F-5
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=120315
Ugandan Mi-17-V5 (newest variant)
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Mi-20.jpg
Zaire SA-330
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=111158
Zimbabwean K-8
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=109979
Zimbabwean Mi-35
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=122511
Zimbabwean Mi-35,Puma and AB-412
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=122656
DanteXavier August 13th, 2007, 04:30 AM great post, king!
Congo SA-365N Dauphin (wtf, they are in dire poverty? smh)
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=124309
Bah, no matter how poor or cash strapped these governments get they can always find a little money for some guns and other military gear-in this case, it's just a helo for VIP transport.
A few new pics here, focusing this time on some of the ground troops.
Ugandans in Somalia and Darfur:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2118/africanunionfuneralby7.jpg
True brothers in arms-RIP:(
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4606/africanunionindarfurkt4.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4466/ugandapeacekeeperdoctorow8.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3592/ugandansoldierwalkingsu6.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1381/ugandantroopszr4.jpg
Rwandans in Darfur:
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7391/ausoldiersinsudan0813ai9.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2373/rwandandarfur0731fi3.jpg
Senegalese armed police in Dakar-very recent shots-I don't remember what the armed cops were out for, probably some security spook or something.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7459/senegalesepolicewk9.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4498/senegalesepoliceagaindg1.jpg
Gabonese sldier(in the red beret)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2183/gabonesesoldierithinknp4.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/314/gabonesesoldieraf3.jpg
Kingofthehill August 13th, 2007, 05:54 AM Malian Soldiers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/dailypix/militarypix/fresh/more/more/even%20more/more/will%20it%20ever%20end/more/more/file-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/He219/dailypix/militarypix/fresh/more/more/even%20more/more/will%20it%20ever%20end/more/more/file-4.jpg
Recent updates! :)
Algerian Su-24
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/6672/s4200050ph4gu8.jpg
Algerian MiG-29s and Beech 1900D
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4209/saharamx6.jpg
Angolan Hind
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149855
Angolan Hip
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=148582
Angolan AF at Luanda Airport
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/SU-6.jpg
Angolan Tucanos
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149852
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149853
Botswana AS-355 (Dante?)
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=146721
Cape Verdean Mi-17
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/p_shadow/FAs/MilMi-17dump-PraiaIAP.jpg
Chad Mi-24 (captured Libyan)
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=144280
Congolese Hip
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=150388
Congolese Su-25
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=150390
Eritrean AB-412HP
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q35/flex297/AISRBell412.jpg
Gabonese Mirage 5CM lineup
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Mirage5GCM.jpg
Ghania. Bell 412
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=146723
Kenyan MD-500s
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149893
Ivory Coast Mi-24
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149892
Liberian Cessna Caravan
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=148912
Libyan MiG-25
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/30596d930libya-4-auction.jpg
Malian An-24
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=143037
Malian MiG-21
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/MiG-21UMMongol-ATZ-358.jpg
Rwandan Mi-17MD
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=149889
Senegalese Mi-17
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=147002
Senegalese AS-355
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=145965
Sudanese An-74
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=148717
Sudanese Mi-35s and Mi-17s
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Mi-24VHind-EMi.jpg
Sudanese A-5
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/A.jpg
Ugandan Mi-24
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=150683
Zaire Mirage 5
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/7362/miragem5mm401zaireafrarit2.jpg
Zambian AB-205
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=146994
Carver02 August 13th, 2007, 07:56 PM Nigerian C-130s (damn, they can't take care of anything!!)That's an older pic; and under Abacha spare parts for the C130s were embargoed so maintenance would have been difficult. Hence, most if not all of Nigeria's C130s were deactivated. Although if they had really tried I'm sure they could have gotten parts smuggled in.
iluvnaija August 14th, 2007, 11:04 AM Air Force awaits new fighter aircraft
From Simeon Nwakaudu, Makurdi
THE military capability of the Air Force is to be boosted significantly when it receives additional fighter aircraft in the next few months.
The new Air Officer Commanding (AOC), Tactical Air Command (TAC), Air Vice Marshall (AVM) Olufemi Gbadebo told officers and men of the TAC, Makurdi, that the Force has benefited tremendously from democracy. He noted that plans had been concluded for the supply of equipment and aircraft to Air Force formations across the nation.
He said: " I want to declare good news to all the officers and men of the TAC. We shall in the next few months take delivery of more fighter aircraft in the TAC. The Nigerian Air Force will also turn out a new set of well-trained pilots to ensure that all units work at optimum level."
The Air Force chief advised men of the command to take advantage of the democratic era, which according to him, has created room for all serving personnel to be given ample notice as regards their retirement from service. He said that once military personnel learnt to take advantage of the notices given them and also realised that once they were recruited into the service, they would one day leave, they would not grumble when they were retired.
Gbadebo said: " We have reached a stage in the Nigerian Armed Forces when people now know their retirement dates. This is the advantage they enjoy as a result of democracy. They should take advantage of the situation and ensure that they are prepared for life after retirement. As you serve, you should realise that a day will come when you will be separated from the service."
He charged the officers and men of the TAC to increase their level of discipline, noting that acts of indiscipline would not be tolerated within the command, since these would affect the objective of returning the TAC to peak performance in the next few months.
Gbedebo said that having worked in different units of the Nigerian Air Force, the TAC inclusive, he was primed to bring his wealth of experience to bear in assisting the Chief of Air Staff, to achieve the goal of reviving the Air Force and making the officers and men combat-ready at all times.
"We must work hard to take the TAC to a new level. As officers and men, we must push ourselves to the limit to achieve set goals. Let us make TAC the envy of all Air Force formations, because we have the support of the Chief of Air Staff to develop the TAC beyond its present state."
The Air Force chief assured that the TAC would cooperate with the Benue State government and other security agencies to ensure the maintenance of security in the state.
He said the unit would always avail the state government the benefit of its security services so that they can face other developmental issues.
The highpoint of the maiden meeting with officers and men of the TAC was the inspection of a guard of honour by the newly posted AOC.
Kingofthehill August 14th, 2007, 03:45 PM ^^ Nigeria is getting Chinese F-7s right? What a waste of money, the L-159 is a far better choice.
At least they are getting ATR-42MPAs in 2009
Carver02 August 14th, 2007, 07:08 PM ^^ Nigeria is getting Chinese F-7s right? What a waste of money, the L-159 is a far better choice.
At least they are getting ATR-42MPAs in 2009Do you know how many ATR-42 they're buying?
The F-7 and the L-159 are different types of aircraft. The L-159 has more advanced technology, better avionics etc. But the L-159 is based on an advanced trainer aircraft. They advertise it as a strike aircraft but that's not what it was really designed for. To be a real ground-strike aircraft it should have a more powerful engine (better acceleration) and more armor. The Sukhoi Su-25 is probably the best at this.
The F-7 is designed as an air-to-air fighter with a secondary attack capability. The F-7 flies at Mach 2 while the L-159 flies just under Mach 1. Also, Nigeria already operates the MiG-21 which was the precursor to the F-7 so it's an easy transition for their pilots and ground crew. But the F-7 is just a stopgap, Nigeria needs a more modern fighter; the Su-30 would be awesome.
The Pakistanis have been trying to get Nigeria interested in their new plane with China, the JF-17 / FC-1.
madao August 15th, 2007, 01:11 AM http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/123/p10b/b01p102a.jpg
http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/117/p12a/b01p121d.jpg
http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/100/s100p10a/b001109h.jpg
http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/100/s100p10a/b001109l.jpg
http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/96/morocsol/b000907t.jpg
http://www.nato.int/sfor/indexinf/96/morocsol/b000907u.jpg
http://www.nato.int/sfor/excercise/Joint%20Resolve%20V/Photo%202.JPG
http://www.nato.int/sfor/excercise/Loir%20Isole/Photo%204.JPG
iluvnaija August 15th, 2007, 11:36 AM anybody got pics of the atr - 42
Kingofthehill August 15th, 2007, 03:46 PM anybody got pics of the atr - 42
No, because they will arrive in 2009:
http://www.alenia-aeronautica.it/store/news/new82_1.pdf
iluvnaija August 16th, 2007, 06:18 PM dnt mean the pic of the nigerian ones i mean like a model or somin
Kingofthehill August 16th, 2007, 07:31 PM dnt mean the pic of the nigerian ones i mean like a model or somin
I posted more than enough pictures in this thread.
Go do a search on google :bash:
iluvnaija August 16th, 2007, 10:40 PM tried but got some old lookin prop planes
Kingofthehill August 16th, 2007, 11:02 PM Nigeria is getting this version:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21029&d=1169547422
http://www.atraircraft.com/public/atr/html/upload/img/464b02fd77e3belectronic_support.jpg
Regards
Rdokoye August 17th, 2007, 04:33 AM FG Approves N10bn for NAF
From Reuben Buhari, 08.17.2007
Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Paul Dike, yesterday in Kaduna, said the Federal Government has approved N10 billon for the Nigeria Air Force (NAF) to take care of its priority projects which include training of personnel, acquisition of new aircraft, maintenance and staff welfare.
Dike said this at the 34th combined graduation ceremony of the Technical Training Group, Nigeria Air Force, Kaduna, where he said vision of the Nigeria Air Force aimed at regenerating the force cannot be actualised without strong emphasis on manpower development.
Represented by Air Vice Marshal Emmanuel Ejeh, Commandant Armed Force Command and Staff College Jaji, Dike said plans are on to get the Technical Training school affiliated to a credible university either at home or abroad to support the quest for academic excellence.
“The recent visit of the Nigeria Defenc Academy (NDA), Council for Regulation of Engineering in Nigeria (COREN), and Cranfeild University in the United Kingdom for familiarization and subsequent affiliation for Post Graduate Studies in this school are testimony of this support .It is our determination to actualize the planned upgrade of this Technical Training Group (TTG) into an Air Force Institute of Technology (AFIT) as soon as the affiliation arrangements are concluded.”While advising personnel due for retirement based on time or age, the CAS told them to be prepare for retirement so that it does not catch them unaware an appeal to the graduating officers to display the highest level of dedication, proficiency and discipline while being ambassadors of TTG at their various units.The commandant of the TTG, Air vice Marshall A Awarun, while commending the 120 graduating personnel, said the school has graduated over 400 army personnel since its inception and that TTG is the only school within the African sub region offering such specialize programs at Diploma level stating that the National Board for Technical Education (NBTE) would soon visit the school to inspect its infrastructure prepatory to its Higher National Diploma programmeThe TTG commandant also reminded the CAS of some of the constrained plaguing the school which include, inadequate and qualified lecturers and technologist, inadequate classrooms and deficient furniture which are hampering the school from fully achieving it potential.
Muttie August 18th, 2007, 11:01 AM Morocco - M109A5 155mm Self-propelled Howitzers
(2007-08-08)
By: Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA)
WASHINGTON, August 3, 2007 - The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Morocco of M109A5 155mm self-propelled howitzers as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $29 million.
The Government of Morocco has requested a possible sale of 60 M109A5 155mm self-propelled howitzers, 30 High Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicle engines, 233 wheel assemblies, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, Quality Assurance Team support services, U. S. Government logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $29 million.
This sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that continues to be an important force for political stability and economic progress in North Africa.
Morocco currently operates M109A1B self-propelled howitzers and will use this new procurement to re-equip existing units, retire older artillery pieces, and modernize the Army¿s fire support capability. Morocco will have no difficulty absorbing the howitzers into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.
No contractor is involved for this purchase of the howitzers. Equipment is considered long supply and is no longer utilized by the U.S. Government.
There will be a U.S. Government Quality Assurance Team in country for one year to check out the equipment. A Technical Assistance Field Team also will participate for two-week intervals twice annually to participate in program management and technical reviews.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.
Grtz
Muttie August 18th, 2007, 11:17 AM http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/741/muragef1cool7wo.jpg
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http://franknoort.nl/others/gfx/15102003/f1-taxi.jpg
Some airforce pics
Kingofthehill August 27th, 2007, 04:35 AM Good stuff people, I'm glad to see this thread has taken iniative :pepper:
Some Gabon materiel:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/2827/gabonf11sm8.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3748/gabonf12ss8.jpg
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8916/gabonf13ir8.jpg
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2091/gabonpuma1ly1.jpg
DanteXavier August 29th, 2007, 07:30 AM South African Elite Forces-"Recces".
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3142/southafricanrecceef4.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2628/southafricanreccesuy0.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/724/southafricanreccesgrpsmkx7.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5311/southafricanrecceru8.jpg
Some of the best soldiers on the planet-seriously. More about them here:
http://www.recce.co.za/
BTW: Great phtos, King, i was planning on posting those, but you beat me to it!
Kingofthehill September 1st, 2007, 12:56 PM BTW: Great phtos, King, i was planning on posting those, but you beat me to it!
I have a new batch coming soon!
Some teasers:
Kenyan Hawks
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=26438
Chad C-130
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=26951
Bonus! Salvadorean home-made AC-47
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=27570
africa500 September 1st, 2007, 01:11 PM Dont know if already posted
Sudanese aviation
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9466/ai1se5.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/951/ai2jd3.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4396/ai3bc1.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/Sudan_Mi-35P-1.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/A.jpg
Kingofthehill September 1st, 2007, 07:48 PM ^^ ^^ Those Sudanese pictures are old! :lol: And I posted them on mp.net
africa500 September 1st, 2007, 08:17 PM Yes ...i suspect it was you who posted them...
but the first three are recent
Kingofthehill September 1st, 2007, 08:35 PM Yes ...i suspect it was you who posted them...
but the first three are recent
Why'd you suspect it was me?
I have some more Sudanese photos too btw.
africa500 September 2nd, 2007, 01:07 AM When i copied one of the image,the url contain "kingofthehill" ... (hxxp://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/Sudan_Mi-35P-1.jpg)
If you have more...please post it :)
I have done intensive search but without a lots of result...
Kingofthehill September 2nd, 2007, 06:44 AM africa500 :banana: :banana:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4852/sudanesea5qn7.jpg
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=148717
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=132438
Sorry africa500, this is what they get for doing foolishness in Darfur
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=64331
Guess who?
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=151200
Namibia Mi-8
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=151199
Burundi Hind
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Mi-17.jpg
Ugandan Hinds
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/SmallAirForces/Mi-35PHind-FMiG.jpg
Ugandan Mi-17MD
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=151300
Malawi Super Puma
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=151303
Senegalese Mi-171 destined for UCDF :nuts:
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/8810/mi176wshtwb4.jpg
Zambian K-8s
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7251/k8zambiatakeofflf3.jpg
DanteXavier September 2nd, 2007, 09:18 PM Some news updates!
Somalia:
Heavy Fighting Erupts Overnight in Capital
NEWS
2 September 2007
Posted to the web 2 September 2007
Mogadishu
A heavy fighting broke out in Mogadishu late last night and in this fighting both the fighting groups exchanged different kinds of weapons including rocket-propelled grenades, motors, and both heavy and light machine guns.
The actual place where this confrontation happened was around the textile and milk factories. This fighting was between the government forces and the opposing groups who attacked the military bases in these places.
The number of casualties could not be verified because it was in the middle of the night.
When Shabelle Media Network contacted this morning the police spokesperson, Mr. Abdu Wahid, he informed Shabelle that unknown groups attacked government forces' garrisons and in response the government forces defended themselves.
Mr. Abdu Wahid also said that in their side they got no loss at all, and search operations are under way in the scene of last night's fight.
However day after day the attacks carried by the armed groups against the government forces are rising.
The troubles that were happening in the city for the past one week claimed the lives of 20 people.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200709020007.html
DanteXavier September 2nd, 2007, 09:19 PM Sudan: Can Europe and China 'Save' Darfur?
GUEST COLUMN
31 August 2007
Posted to the web 31 August 2007
By John Prendergast
After all the U.S. government's rhetoric about Darfur's genocide, and all its finger-wagging over the inaction of other nations, it is an instructive irony that the forces finally emerging to actually address Darfur's ills are on the other sides of the Atlantic and Pacific. Indeed, the governments that seem mostly likely to walk the walk are in France, the UK, and - surprise - China.
Three years ago, the U.S. Congress harangued President Bush about not calling the Darfur crisis "genocide" until he finally did so. His administration then spent the next few years using the term repeatedly, bird-dogging other nations about their lack of action, issuing vague statements about the use of force for which the Pentagon has not done serious planning, strong-arming one of the rebel groups to sign a peace deal that made matters worse on the ground, imposing unilateral sanctions that had no impact on the culprits, and sending millions of dollars of humanitarian aid to substitute for effective political action.
During this timeframe, the U.S. could be forgiven for being disappointed in China and Europe. Beijing ran interference for the Khartoum regime in the UN Security Council while pumping Sudanese oil and selling arms to the government. France and the UK provided no direction to the European Union and sat on the sidelines, despite a reservoir of leverage in Paris from its relationship with Chad, and high octane speeches from former Prime Minister Blair about no-fly zones.
However, in one of those kairos moments, everything is suddenly changing. China has come under intense pressure from activists for its support for the Sudanese regime, which it wants to shake off so it can host a controversy-free 2008 Olympics. France elected a president who wants to work with the U.S. on Darfur. Britain's new prime minister plans to go with the new French president to Darfur to move the peace process forward. All three countries played constructive roles in getting the UN Security Council to pass a resolution a few weeks ago authorizing a force of over 20,000 troops to help stabilize Darfur.
This is the diplomatic and political equivalent of low-hanging fruit for President Bush, as he considers how to begin shaping his legacy. If his administration can set aside all its posturing, roll up its sleeves, send a diplomatic team to the region, and start working multilaterally, a real success story could be written.
And for the first time on an African issue, resolving the crisis in Darfur would have positive domestic political ramifications. Over the past few years, a movement has grown among politically active Americans to confront genocide in Darfur. In churches, synagogues, town halls, and university classrooms all over the U.S., citizens are telling their elected officials that it is unacceptable to stand idly by while genocide unfolds. More than a million Americans have asked to be on the Save Darfur Coalition's email action list. The book I wrote with "actorvist" Don Cheadle rocketed to number 6 on the NY Times Bestseller List, and at every stop of our book tour we spoke to thousands of people hungry to learn what they could do to get our politicians to act. The highest rated show on television last week was a "60 Minutes" episode on Darfur. Until there is a political cost for inaction in the face of genocide, author Samantha Power has written, we will get inaction.
What is needed isn't exactly rocket science. I've been working in Africa's crisis zones for 25 years, and contrary to popular perceptions, the continent is ripe with success stories about countries that have been ripped apart by civil war, but have been able to resolve their issues and move on. Mozambique, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Burundi, and others can attest to the formula: a serious peace process combined with the deployment of relevant force works.
A quartet of President Hu, President Sarkozy, Prime Minister Brown, and President Bush should pursue a peace and protection initiative that would prioritize a peace deal between the regime and rebel groups, and enforce the rapid deployment of the Security Council's authorized multinational forces to Darfur and eastern Chad. They should be prepared to back targeted sanctions in the UN Security Council (President Putin, you are welcome to join in) against anyone - government or rebel - who tries to obstruct these objectives. Not only would Darfur be "saved," but transatlantic and transpacific cooperation would also be enhanced at a time when such multilateralism is desperately needed.
President Bush, your legacy is calling. Will you answer?
http://allafrica.com/stories/200708311072.html
DanteXavier September 2nd, 2007, 09:31 PM Sierra Leone: Clashes Spread to South
NEWS
31 August 2007
Posted to the web 1 September 2007
Freetown
Sierra Leone's run-off elections are becoming increasingly chaotic with reports of violent clashes between political activists dogging the political campaigns as they moved through the southern cities Bo and Moyamba.
Supporters of APC presidential candidate Ernest Bai Koroma and the governing party's SLPP Solomon Berewa armed with sharp sticks and rocks clashed in Segbwema and Kenema on 30 and 31 August, according to reports from the towns.
As tension mounted in Kenema on 30 August, police imposed a curfew, however residents went about their normal business on 31 August.
Berewa's spokesperson told IRIN that on 31 August, APC supporters attempted to burn down the SLPP party office in Bo, however the charge was denied by the head of the police in Bo, Foday Dabah. "The situation is under control. Media reports of houses being burned are false," he said.
One of Sierra Leone's most prominent human rights activists Charles Mambu condemned the increasing violence and appealed to political leaders to restrain their supporters. "The hard won peace must me maintained at all costs," he said.
Some analysts have expressed concern that Sierra Leone, which experienced a devastating civil war between 1991 and 2002, could divide along ethnic-regional lines. However, senior diplomats in the country have said that low-level violence is not a major cause for concern, and expressed confidence that Sierra Leone's police and army are sufficiently trained and equipped to quell violence effectively.
Meanwhile the Head of the Outreach Unit of the National Electoral Commission (NEC) Miatta French has confirmed the arrival of elections materials for the 8 September poll.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200709010002.html
DanteXavier September 2nd, 2007, 09:56 PM Nigeria: Delta Erupts Again As Military, Cultists Clash
The Joint Task Force currently involved in the efforts to maintain peace in Rivers State, yesterday took the fight to cultists in Bodo, Gokana Local Government Area of the state, where they confronted the Degbam cult group.
Bodo has for some time, been a battle ground between Dewell and Degbam cult groups which have severally made residents of the community to flee for their safety. As a result of the clash, social and commercial activities have ground to a halt.
Although the cause of the latest clash could not be ascertained, community sources said members of the task force invaded Bodo early yesterday morning while the cultists confronted them.
The seriousness of the clashes could be gleaned from the use of helicopter gunship from the Air force by men of the task force Residents said the helicopters hovered menacingly low around the area but did not participate in the on going face off.
Although details of casualty figures could not be ascertained, as at yesterday afternoon, but the JTF continued to break into houses to arrest people in their bid to search for the cultists and seize their weapons.
A human rights activist, Mr. Patrick Naangbaton, who witnessed the exchange explained that the Dewell cultists were burying one of their colleagues who died last year and the community people informed members of the JTF of the incident. According to him, soldiers who invaded the area dropped a bomb and destroyed some houses while some villagers were allegedly arrested.
However, he said by the time the JTF members arrived Bodo; the cultists had also got wind of their arrival and fled through the creeks. At the waterside, the cultists shot sporadically and caused pandemonium.
"When the JTF arrived, members of the Degbam cult group had concluded the burial and apparently got wind of the soldiers' arrival; they packed their things and disappeared into the creeks. But when they got to the creek, they started shooting.
"Now that the soldiers have arrived, they are breaking into houses and arresting innocent people in the community, the same thing they did in Port Harcourt ", he said.
When THISDAY called the cell phone of the Public Relations Officer of the JTF, Major Sagir Musa, to confirm the fact about the clash, the phone rang continuously without an answer. It was therefore not clear whether the operation by the JTF was in respect of the burial of the cultist or part of the ongoing crackdown on the cult groups.
Last week, Sagir had denied that the raid reported in Tombia was not carried out by the JTF whose men he said were yet to leave Port Harcourt Town to carry out any raid in the creeks. He accused the cultists of impersonating JTF personnel to perpetrate the attack.
It is also not clear if the cultists were again involved in the trick of wearing military fatigue to attack Bodo in the name of JTF. But this time around, a military helicopter was seen hovering in the sky while the house-to-house search by the military men went on.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200709020003.html
DanteXavier September 2nd, 2007, 10:00 PM South Africa: SA Welcomes First Black Female Helicopter Pilot
NEWS
15 August 2007
Posted to the web 15 August 2007
By Edwin Tshivhidzo
Pretoria
The South African National Defence Force (SANDF) has welcomed its first black female helicopter pilot.
Lieutenant Phetogo Molawa, 21, hails from the Free State. She displayed her flying prowess in an Oryx army helicopter to guests and defence force members in Centurion at the Third Women's Conference in Defence on Wednesday.
Ms Molawa recently completed her initial helicopter training at the defence force and is now one of only a few women helicopter pilots in the Air Force.Speaking to BuaNews, Lieutenant Molawa said she developed a passion for flying in her school days."I wanted to show other young women that I can do what men can do."
Asked why she chose to become a pilot at the defence force, she said: "The defence force offers many opportunities, you can be part of the rescue team, medics and many other things by being a pilot."
She urged other young women to follow their dreams.
Ms Molawa's appointment came after Deputy Defence Minister Mluleki George announced that the SANDF had decided to increase the number of women generals, in order to attain a 30 percent representation.Addressing the SANDF conference, the deputy minister said the SANDF had set this target for a 30 percent representation of women in all decision-making structures by 2009.
"We cannot hope to achieve women's representation in all decision-making structures of the organisation if women are not represented in the defence management."We need to create a conducive environment for women to make a meaningful contribution to the objectives of the department," he said.
Comparing South Africa with other countries in the region with regard to representation, Deputy Minister George said the country was "head and shoulders above most countries when it comes to gender equity in the military.""We need to build on this achievement and ensure the number of women generals increases on a yearly basis."
Earlier this year, Defence Minister Mosiuoa Lekota, announced the appointment of 11 Brigadier Generals and two Rear Admirals.Eight of the new Brigadier Generals were women, bringing the total number of women Generals to 25 in the SANDF.
Minister Lekota said at the time that this signalled the intention of his department to speed up the development of women during the second decade of freedom.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200708150404.html
DanteXavier September 3rd, 2007, 02:32 AM US army General Kip Ward visiting Ghana:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8673/usgeneralkipwardvisitinbg3.jpg
African Union Troops:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1449/africanuniontroopsce2.jpg
Central African Republic Government Soldier:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4223/centralafricanrepublicsmz0.jpg
Michaelda September 3rd, 2007, 04:41 AM anyone know how many french bases are in africa and where they are. and how many soldiers. thx
DanteXavier September 3rd, 2007, 06:14 AM anyone know how many french bases are in africa and where they are. and how many soldiers. thx
All I know is that they are in Chad, Gabon, and Senegal for sure-probably other areas to. The French Air Force carries out combat missions out there all the time.
That's about all I know right now.
DanteXavier September 3rd, 2007, 06:19 AM Just found a very interesting article on the state of the Zimbabwean air force.
Mugabe's military might fades in pay crisis
Johannesburg - Zimbabwe's military strength, upon which Robert Mugabe's political survival depends, is seeping away due to the country's collapsed economy. Once among the best trained and most battle hardened in Africa, the military is now suffering a rash of defections among servicemen who are no longer prepared to put up with subsistence wages. One young officer cadet who went AWOL in May asked not to be named by The Daily Telegraph, nor for his home village to be identified in case of reprisals. The son of a former veteran of President Robert Mugabe's liberation war, this 26-year-old now works across the border in Johannesburg. He earns between £100-£150 a month working seven days a week for a Zimbabwe-run security company. This is at least 25 times what he used to make in the Zimbabwean airforce, which has now also run critically short of planes.
The former airman said: "We didn't have enough food to eat when we did fly, and our pay was Z$150,000 (about £4 in April). We complained but they said everyone was suffering from British sanctions. At home I saw friends who didn't have a secondary school education coming from South Africa with many things, and we had absolutely nothing, I couldn't even buy food for my mother. Last year I spent four months without flying and that was when I started thinking of leaving." The man was stationed at the Thornhill airforce headquarters, outside Gweru, a shabby town in central Zimbabwe, 160 miles south west of Harare. Out of a force which at one time had scores of fighter planes, he said only one Chinese MiG21 and four MiG23s were still working.
Zimbabwe's airmen used to be trained on British Hawks, but Britain along with the EU and the US banned sale of military hardware to the nation. "There is still one Hawk, but the only pilot who flies is gone," he added. The base's training planes, the airman said, were now three or four old Italian Genet SF260s and TPSF 260s. "Sometimes when I was in the air I wondered if they were safe," he said. He added that he was the fourth from an intake of 16 officer cadets to quit. "I phoned some of them at Thornhill and they want to know what it is like in South Africa, but we don't talk politics. I had never been to South Africa before and it is hard." Some estimates, probably exaggerated, are that three million Zimbabweans - a third of the population - have fled the country since 2000.
A former career soldier from the Zimbabwe National Army who left three years ago also came along for the interview to make sure his young friend's identity was protected. "The army was professional. Now it is political," said the veteran who fought in Mozambique and the Democratic Republic of Congo. "I now see plenty of army guys here, some now driving trucks from the coast to Johannesburg. We would go home and vote next year if the opposition re-unites. If it doesn't, Mugabe will win the elections." The Movement for Democratic Change, Zimbabwe's opposition, split into two factions in 2005.
http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=17241
Michaelda September 3rd, 2007, 08:35 AM these articles always claim zim has the greatest this or the greatest that. now the army was one of th better armies too? gimme a break.
anyway i found out the french have some 6 thousand or so troops in africa, in gabon, djibouti, senegal, reunion, CAR and ivory coast. wish we could get rid of these bases
Kingofthehill September 3rd, 2007, 11:48 AM anyone know how many french bases are in africa and where they are. and how many soldiers. thx
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/a/a2/French_deployments.jpg
Matthias Offodile September 3rd, 2007, 02:03 PM http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/vernag/eh/GIF/forces_afrique.gif
red points are the military bases
blue figures are soldiers working with UN troops
However, reforms are underway!
Côte d´ivoire, Tchad, Central African Republic will be entirely dismantled till 2015. Regional troops and camps will be set up where African soldiers and armies get trained. By the way, the French military base in Chad was once closed down in the past which incited Ghdaffi soldiers to march into the territory by trying to destabilize the country...the country was on the verge of collapse.
Matthias Offodile September 3rd, 2007, 02:19 PM This article sums it up briefly! it is taken out of the newspaper "le Monde".
LE MONDE | 28.08.06 | 13h38
Laurent Zecchini
Les forces militaires prépositionnées - de "souveraineté" (dans les départements et territoires d'outre-mer) ou de "présence" (essentiellement en Afrique) - relèvent de deux registres différents, mais elles ont une caractéristique commune : l'état-major des armées a le plus grand mal à exercer son autorité sur leur volume. Qu'il s'agisse des élus locaux pour les premières ou des gouvernements africains pour les secondes, le format et la pérennité de ces forces sont soumis à des pressions politiques qui se reflètent dans les décisions de l'Elysée.
Les autorités politiques des Antilles, de la Réunion ou de Nouvelle-Calédonie verraient d'un mauvais oeil une diminution de la présence militaire française, tout comme les gouvernements du Sénégal, du Gabon ou de Djibouti. Les forces de souveraineté représentent 16 570 soldats, répartis dans huit départements et territoires d'outre-mer. Elles sont "prépositionnées" dans la mesure où, comme les forces de "présence" (5 309 soldats), elles peuvent être mobilisées pour des opérations extérieures (OPEX).
La présence militaire française reste forte en Afrique, mais elle tend à se recentrer. Des accords de défense lient Paris à six pays (Cameroun, Côte d'Ivoire, Gabon, Togo, Centrafrique et Sénégal) et des accords de coopération à beaucoup d'autres. La distinction entre les trois bases permanentes du Sénégal, du Gabon et de Djibouti d'une part, et les OPEX du Tchad et de Côte d'Ivoire de l'autre, est assez théorique. Avec deux interruptions, la France est en effet présente au Tchad depuis son indépendance, en 1960.
Certains gouvernements ont une approche ambivalente s'agissant de la présence française. C'est le cas en Côte d'Ivoire, où le président Laurent Gbagbo hésite à demander le départ des troupes françaises, tout en se servant d'elles : lors des événements de novembre 2005, les soldats de l'opération "Licorne" et leurs familles ont ainsi été utilisés comme un moyen de pression du pouvoir ivoirien sur la France.
La réorganisation du dispositif militaire français en Afrique répond à plusieurs impératifs : au travers du concept de renforcement des capacités africaines de maintien de la paix (Recamp), la France cherche à mutualiser et à "européaniser" sa présence sur le continent noir.
Cette évolution accompagne celle en cours au sein de l'Union africaine (UA), dont l'objectif est de rendre opérationnelle la "force africaine en attente", qui serait divisée en cinq brigades régionales, recoupant peu ou prou la nouvelle répartition géographique des implantations militaires françaises.
africa500 September 6th, 2007, 07:42 PM Sudan military production:
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http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7186/shmsbuild1187764bba1.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3678/gshmsequ11875073sm7.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3457/safatbuild11879a6dgi9.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2893/alzargabuild1187ac30ye4.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5214/gsariabui1187d6daih5.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8509/ggiad1187fe47ax9.jpg
More information of Sudanese military product:
http://mic.sd/english/products.htm
Kingofthehill September 7th, 2007, 02:38 AM AU soldier, btw they need new guns!
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/lancero22/setembro/bc567e93.jpg
http://www.dezh.de/imghosting/4af797b980e3b279281032fa7e30cb56.jpg
Sudanese freedom fighter
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa311/lancero22/setembro/642ccced.jpg
Hammelkar September 7th, 2007, 04:15 AM Angola rare photo of one of they Su-27
http://www.geocities.com/sheepo74/ang27.jpg
http://www.fsplanet.com/images6/bw27_ango.jpg
The Mangusta has been successfully deployed in Somalia, Angola and Kosovo
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/agusta/images/agusta2.jpg
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