Anyone has news on this?

The development is called "Shelford Suites". The showflat is along Shelford Road, it looks ready.

This property will probably set a new benchmark for this area. I will be watching this thread for updates.

How big is the plot? Form the number of units, I can deduce that it is quite small.

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excelsvr

Adam Park Condo, 19 Shelford are transacting at around $1200 psf. The Shelford is going at $1350 pfs.

The land area for Shelford Suites is 7,113 sq m = 76,535 sq ft. It can be built up to 76,535 X 1.4 = 107,150 sq ft. CDL is building 77 units in the development. Each unit will therefore average out at 1,391 sq ft.

Assuming that CDL launches it at $1800 psf, the price for a 3bedder will be around $2.5M. I think this is "do-able". En-bloc people from Leedon Heights/Farrer Park may be looking here.

This means that the prices of units at Shelford Road/Adam Road will go up!

Yipee! Every area in Singapore is catching the "spruce-up" disease:D

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excelsvr

yeah... better get a unit at the older condos at Shelford/Adam before CDL launches theirs. Shelford Suites will pull up the prices around that area.

there is another plot there which has gone en-bloc. popular holdings has bought 18 shelford road (besides adam park condo). i think they are waiting to see what happens to shelford suites before deciding what to do. they may even launch theirs at a higher price given that they have the number "18" in their address...

wonder what has happened to the en-bloc of watten estate condo?

Popular Holdings as in the bookstore?

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excelsvr

yes. they bought 18 Shelford Road for S$27.2M in Apr 2007. starting a new thread on it.

Popular Land Pte Ltd will develop 18 Shelford Road into two 5-storey blocks housing 17 typical units and 2 penthhouse units. ^^

That's so cool! Imagine a condominium built by a bookstore company. Maybe the convenience store ( if they have ) sells books by popular! :lol:

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excelsvr

are they going to launch this or the Robin Road site 1st?

Why? Would there be a preference to which site is launched first?

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excelsvr

they have started building 1 Robin. As for 18 Shelford Road, the old building is still there. The owners have not moved out yet.

any idea when is the launch date?

think should launch sometime later sept from prev news article. knowing CDL and based on Latitude pricing style, wont be surprised if launch price starts from 2000psf in view of Duchess Residences selling out at >2000psf during launch. Plus, only 77 units, hence can afford to stretch pricing a little further.

MCL Land's Hillcrest Villa (99yr cluster townhouses) nearby also expected to be launched later this mth i think

Where is Hillcrest Villa?

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excelsvr

Where is Hillcrest Villa?

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excelsvr

Check this out:

http://www.mclland.com.sg/upcoming_Hillcrest.html

Thanks.

cheers

excelsvr

talking abt hillcrest villa, i wonder if the future residents will be bothered with the long line of cars waiting to pick up their daughters from rgps?

talking abt hillcrest villa, i wonder if the future residents will be bothered with the long line of cars waiting to pick up their daughters from rgps?

I believe so during peak school start/end timing. I bring my niece to school and it is normalfor school buses and private cars all queue from Bukit Timah to make it to the single lane road at Hillcrest Road to enter RGPS.

That won't be so good for Hillcrest Villa...

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excelsvr

Is red-hot property market starting to slow down?

Possible correction seen but underlying demand is still strong, say experts.
Fiona Chan, Property Reporter

Mon, Sep 17, 2007
The Straits Times

AFTER months of racing along at a feverish pace, Singapore's residential property market seems to be finally taking a breather.

Home sales and collective sales slowed last month, and property watchers have started to speak of a possible correction in the market.

'A correction is going to take place. The question is: How severe?' OCBC Investment Research analyst Winston Liew told Reuters.

Experts agree, however, that underlying housing demand is still strong, and that home prices will keep rising, although at a slower pace. Prices surged 13.5 per cent in the first six months of the year alone.

'Property market fundamentals have not changed much over the period,' said French bank BNP Paribas in a report on Thursday.

It is tipping mid-tier and suburban homes as the big growth areas for the rest of the year. These have lagged in the rebound, which has been led mainly by high-end homes setting new record prices.

'We still see opportunities available on the fringe of the city and suburban areas, where land remains affordable to developers,' BNP said.

It noted, however, that home sales had been falling since June, according to caveats lodged. Sales fell from 4,921 in May to 3,917 in June to 3,540 in July.

So far, just 1,127 sales have been lodged for last month, partly due to a time lag in caveats. BNP estimates, however, that even when all the data is in, last month's sales will hit about 2,500 only.

Collective sales, which set a string of record land prices earlier this year, have also slowed to a trickle, with only one deal recorded last month.

Property analysts have offered several reasons for the current slowdown.

One is the sub-prime home loans crisis in the United States, which triggered weeks of stock market volatility in Singapore and in the rest of the region. Developers say this has led to more caution among foreign investors, some of whom are the biggest buyers of luxury homes in Singapore.

Consultants have also blamed the sharp run-up in property prices since the beginning of the year. With asking prices breaching the stratosphere, many buyers are now holding out for better deals.

Upcoming changes in rules on collective sales and higher development charges are also dampening the collective-sale market, previously a major source of housing supply and demand.

A fourth reason could be the month-long hungry ghost festival that ended last week. Fewer projects were launched during this time compared to previous months.

But projects that did go on sale last month. including The Parc in West Coast Walk and Soleil@Sinaran in Novena, received a strong response.

MCL Land has also quietly sold more than half its strata titled terrace homes in Bukit Timah since Monday, even before official previews. About a third of the 168 units at Hillcrest Villas have been taken up by the developer's close associates at between $2.5 million and $3 million apiece.

'Residential demand remains healthy, even though homebuyers and investors will tread cautiously,' CB Richard Ellis executive director Li Hiaw Ho said.

He and other market experts agree that while market activity has slowed somewhat, the pace of growth will pick up again at year-end.

'The stock market has started to stabilise and, come November, things will probably go back to the way they were before August,' said Mr Lui Seng Fatt, regional director at Jones Lang LaSalle.

heard pricing is at 800-900psf for Hillcrest Villas. 3000sf hence will set u back 2.5-3MM apiece

That's quite affordable IMO.

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excelsvr

I know nuts about landed or cluster housing properties. But it does sound like rather good value at S$800-900 psf as one forummer posted.

Can someone who knows more about landed or cluster housing properties shed some light ?

Hehe. Ayanami, You should see The Shaugnessy off Miltonia Close. That is an example of cluster housing. As for anthing else, I dunno :D

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excelsvr

Sep 19, 2007
En bloc sellers 'set to spend over $4b buying new homes'
Savills expects sales to pick up as owners get paid and seek replacement homes
By Fiona Chan, Property Reporter


BOOM TIME: Some of the larger projects sold collectively in April to June include Leedon Heights and Farrer Court on Farrer Road. -- ST FILE PHOTO

CASH windfalls will soon be arriving for the hundreds of home owners who sold their property en bloc during the frenzied April to June period.
As they look for new homes, they could pour more than $4 billion into the market by early next year, according to new estimates from Savills Singapore.

The property consultancy said the 'bunching up' of collective sales in the second quarter will yield almost $6.4 billion in total collective sale proceeds.

Most of the amount is due to come in between December and February, which is likely to prompt a pickup in market activity, said Mr Ku Swee Yong, Savills Singapore's director of marketing and business development. Assuming some sellers already have second homes, those who need a new place to live in will have about $4.2 billion to spend, he said.

His calculations showed that about 2,800 units were sold en bloc between April and June, for an average of $2.3 million a unit.

But he estimates that only about two-thirds of the owners will buy replacement homes. Still, this means almost 1,900 units in move-in condition will be needed in the months ahead.

Buyers are likely to seek these homes in areas such as Bukit Timah, Upper Bukit Timah, Clementi, Novena, Upper East Coast and Bukit Panjang, added Mr Ku.

This is because the bulk of the collective sales during the period were in the prime areas of Districts 9, 10, 11 and 15. Together, these cover Orchard, Holland, Bukit Timah, Newton and the East Coast.

Some of the larger projects sold en bloc in April-June include Farrer Court and Leedon Heights on Farrer Road, with more than 900 units between them. All these projects are in District 10, said Savills. In this prime district alone, 1,600 units were sold for $4.3 billion, it added.

'Sellers in Districts 9 and 10 are likely to look for new homes in Districts 11 and 21 - Bukit Timah and Upper Bukit Timah,' said Mr Ku. 'Even if they have money to stay in the centre of town, they may have nothing to buy, as most of the older projects have already gone en bloc in the last two years.'

On the other hand, Bukit Timah and Upper Bukit Timah 'have plenty of projects and not many collective sales', he added.

He expects en bloc sellers to be out in full force buying new homes starting from December, thanks to the record run of collective sales this year - such deals from January to June hit almost $10 billion, according to Savills.

'Almost all such sellers get their money within nine months of the sale,' Mr Ku said, adding that Strata Titles Board sale approval takes about six months.

He added it has proven difficult for some sellers to buy a new home using a bridging loan. 'So most of them won't be able to buy a replacement unit until they actually get money in hand.'

fiochan@sph.com.sg

This report already came out in the Jardin forum.

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excelsvr

yes. i posted it at both places since the developments are at bukit timah.

Hehe. Ayanami, You should see The Shaugnessy off Miltonia Close. That is an example of cluster housing. As for anthing else, I dunno :D

cheers

excelsvr

Err....I think I know what is cluster housing. What I wanted to know is the typical price ranges of cluster housing. At 800-900 psf for HillCrest villa, it sounds reasonable to a newbie like me.

Anyway, thanks for your example. :)

No problem. Anyway, me also know nuts about cluster housing! :D

cheers

excelsvr

Err....I think I know what is cluster housing. What I wanted to know is the typical price ranges of cluster housing. At 800-900 psf for HillCrest villa, it sounds reasonable to a newbie like me.

Anyway, thanks for your example. :)
psf for cluster housing is normally cheaper than condo. strata title and foreigner cannot buy.

Foreigners cannot buy. Hmm...that's interesting. And think that partly explains why the prices are kept at bay.

most probably best to compare cluster housing with landed which in this case should compare with leasehold landed.

Compared with Duchess Crest townhouses (also 99yrs) Hillcrest Villa units seem pretty attractive (or DC ones are essentially overpriced in view of age)

psf for cluster housing is normally cheaper than condo. strata title and foreigner cannot buy.

Then technically I would find cluster housing more wort it.

maintenance is about $700 per month. Big drawback methinks

S$700 for cluster housing?

Last heard from agent on Sat afternoon, hillcrest villa fully sold out

Now that's fast! Kudos to MCL Land!

Last heard from agent on Sat afternoon, hillcrest villa fully sold out

yes, fully sold. with that kind of pricing i am not surprise.

maintenance is about $700 per month. Big drawback methinks


Foreigner can't buy is another big drawback.:ohno:

Foreigner can't buy is another big drawback.:ohno:

Still possible (below in bold).

Strata landed homes look set to be big trend

Among them, property firm CB Richard Ellis (CBRE) has identified at least 21 strata-titled landed homes, or cluster housing projects in the pipeline.
Fiona Chan

Sun, Sep 09, 2007
The Sunday Times

AUGUST and September are typically slow months for new property launches, due to the superstition surrounding the Hungry Ghost month.

But developers are not sitting idly by this year. Several launches are in the works for the last months of the year, and one of the big emerging trends appears to be strata-titled landed homes, or cluster housing projects.

Property firm CB Richard Ellis (CBRE), for one, identifies at least 21 such projects in the pipeline.

For the uninitiated, cluster homes look exactly like conventional landed homes. They are usually at least two storeys high and come in a variety of sizes, ranging from terrace houses to bungalows.

The main difference is that cluster homes come with strata titles, as do condominiums, rather than land titles.

In a cluster project, the land is shared by all the owners, explained Mr Li Hiaw Ho, an executive director of CBRE Research.

This has two main implications. First, cluster projects can be sold en bloc as long as the minimum required owner consensus is met. This means an 80 per cent agreement for projects more than 10 years old and 90 per cent for younger estates.

Second, owners of strata houses do not have the flexibility of tearing down and rebuilding their properties. Owners of conventional landed homes, on the other hand, can make additions and alterations that affect the external appearance of the homes.

Generally, cluster housing projects tend to be more standardised in appearance than the usual landed houses.

Each unit is typically two to three storeys high, and most come with four to six bedrooms, attics or roof terraces, and basements, said Mr Li.

Parking spaces are also a plus in cluster projects, which usually include one or two basement carpark lots for each house.

The built-up area for each house ranges from about 2,500 sq ft for a terrace house to 3,500 to 4,000 sq ft for a detached house, added Mr Li.

The larger bungalows can go up to almost 6,000 sq ft, with roof terraces usually accounting for another 500 sq ft.

Cluster housing is not a new concept in Singapore, having first made an appearance in 1993. But these projects became more mainstream only from 2000 onwards, and have taken off in a big way just recently.

'More customers are accepting the product now, so developers are also encouraged to build more of these houses,' said Mr Ku Swee Yong, the director of marketing and business development at Savills Singapore.

He noted that Far East Organization's Greenwood series of landed homes, one of the more popular landed housing projects in recent years, is planning to release its next phase in a cluster housing style.

Anecdotal evidence from property agents also seems to indicate that foreigners find it easier to get approval to buy strata landed homes than to buy conventional landed homes.

'Cluster homes are strata-titled, so in such a development, there would be a good balance of voting share rights between foreigners and Singaporeans,' said one agent. 'Also, generally, the smaller the property, the easier it is to get approval if you are a foreigner.'
For the individual home buyer, there are several advantages to strata homes that conventional landed housing do not offer.

Among the greatest draws of cluster houses are the communal facilities and security features. Facilities often include at least one swimming pool, jacuzzis, a gym, a clubhouse and barbecue areas.

But these perks come at a cost: Strata home owners have to pay a monthly maintenance fee, much like condominium owners, to maintain these facilities.

Previous estimates by consultancy Colliers International have put these fees at $250 to more than $400 a month, depending on the size of the estate and the facilities available.

Apart from the maintenance cost, cluster homes and landed homes in the same location are usually similarly priced, said CBRE's Mr Li. 'The facilities provided in a cluster project will be a trade-off against the loss of the private enjoyment of land.'

For a home buyer who is trying to decide between strata and conventional landed homes, 'it will ultimately boil down to a question of lifestyle', said Mr Li.

While some home owners might prefer a landed home with large common areas and some facilities within the compound, others might want to have the land title to their landed property, he added.

Foreigner can't buy is another big drawback.:ohno:

That means foreigner can only buy HDB and Condo right?

Foreigner buy HDB??

I don't really know. Only sure that foreigners CAN buy condo. Not sure of HDB. Sorry for the mistake.

Unless foreigners are PR la...but can only buy Resale.

Most PR bought HDB in suburbs like Jurong West,Woodlands,Pasir Ris and Boon Lay.Those PR with hard-cash will buy Toa Payoh,Tiong Bahru and Holland.

Just FYI,my assoc just closed an EA @ Mei Ling St for a RECORD of $780000!!
Also heard recently Marine Parade 5rm was closed @ $800000!!
:cheers:

Don't be surprise by year end Govt will block any HDB goes above $800k!:ohno:

Because the idea of HDB is to provide cheap and good housing for middle-class families right?

Any idea when the launch date of Shelford Suites is? Thanks.

Where exactly is it?

Shelford Suites launching within this 2weeks. located at end of shelford road near singapore bible school.
Showflat is ready, I've an appointment to see the developer coming wednesday... probably can share with u guys later.

Welcome to the forum! :wave:

You seem to be an agent, having info on a lot of condos.

Someone said it is all sold? Is that right? I dont think so since it is not launched yet? Any idea?

Huh? Sold before official launch date?

All sold ? Can someone provide update. :-)

The launch of this project and the sales rate will be interesting to monitor.
It is one of the "major" project launched after the sub-prime thingy along Bukit Timah Road. And it can be considered a mid-market project which is supposedly beginning to move upwards (together with mass market), given that prime/super-prime is taking a breather for now.

Wonder if it will be close to the the record prices set by Duchess Residences.

Shelford is nearer to the Adam Road area is it?

Now is it really all sold?

Shelford is nearer to the Adam Road area is it?

Now is it really all sold?

As far i check with CDL, its not sold....
u guys interested to go preview... hehe

Yes. Near to the Adam road end. Beside Watten estate, which I believe is where the boss of FEO stays.

One advantage of this development is it is near to the future MRT station behind Serene Centre (perhaps 7-10 minutes walk).

Welcome to the forum! :wave:

You seem to be an agent, having info on a lot of condos.

In fact i am. Project Specialist from ERA.
Mainly i focus alot on bukit timah, however i do D9, D10, D11 & D15 as well.

Through these years, i gathered partners from other agencies.
Hence will be updated firsthand on new projects.
Main partners include HSR, Propnex, CBRE, Huttons/Savils & developers as well. (Far East & CDL) esp for Far East proj, i enjoy gold-tier discounts.

In fact i am. Project Specialist from ERA.
Mainly i focus alot on bukit timah, however i do D9, D10, D11 & D15 as well.

Through these years, i gathered partners from other agencies.
Hence will be updated firsthand on new projects.
Main partners include HSR, Propnex, CBRE, Huttons/Savils & developers as well. (Far East & CDL) esp for Far East proj, i enjoy gold-tier discounts.

I like ERA. What about Debanham Tie Lueng (DTZ) ? Never heard of it already. Like it suddenly disappeared.

All sold ? Can someone provide update. :-)

The launch of this project and the sales rate will be interesting to monitor.
It is one of the "major" project launched after the sub-prime thingy along Bukit Timah Road. And it can be considered a mid-market project which is supposedly beginning to move upwards (together with mass market), given that prime/super-prime is taking a breather for now.

Wonder if it will be close to the the record prices set by Duchess Residences.

dont think it will be closed to Duchess Residence's selling price as DR is District 10 whereas Shelford Suites is in District 11. Closer to town, Residences@Evelyn and Newton Suites are only selling around $2000psf. Lucida is selling at around $1800psf.

I like ERA. What about Debanham Tie Lueng (DTZ) ? Never heard of it already. Like it suddenly disappeared.

They are still around just that projects undertook by them are not very well known like the one in old holland road. DTZ share of projects somehow are low now, but i can't comment why. As for resale market they are still very active. Their organisation structure is abit different. If the agent is in resale division, he/she can only do resale market. As for projects, it will be handled by their project marketing team. Lastly is the commercial divison. Somehow DTZ agent cannot do all 3 divisions.....

I like ERA. What about Debanham Tie Lueng (DTZ) ? Never heard of it already. Like it suddenly disappeared.DTZ is very strong in project marketing... they hv King's 8, Duchess Residences, Turquoise, Illoura, Reflection, The Rochester and etc currently.....

dont think it will be closed to Duchess Residence's selling price as DR is District 10 whereas Shelford Suites is in District 11. Closer to town, Residences@Evelyn and Newton Suites are only selling around $2000psf. Lucida is selling at around $1800psf.

Actually Duke Residence & Shelford Suites are comparable products.
(i would like to emphasize similar but not same)
However, i have yet to see the design & finishing for Shelford Suites.
Hence my indicative will be S$1800-S$2000psf.
But knowing CDL way, they might try at higher price.

DTZ is very strong in project marketing... they hv King's 8, Duchess Residences, Turquoise, Illoura, Reflection, The Rochester and etc currently.....

I understand but that are past projects.
Have yet to heard from them on any high key projects recently, perhaps soft launch else where then Singapore?

Actually Duke Residence & Shelford Suites are comparable products.
(i would like to emphasize similar but not same)
However, i have yet to see the design & finishing for Shelford Suites.
Hence my indicative will be S$1800-S$2000psf.
But knowing CDL way, they might try at higher price.to me and my opinion only, $1600psf is the reasonable price. $1800-2000psf is Duchess Residences' price which is at Dist 10.

I understand but that are past projects.
Have yet to heard from them on any high key projects recently, perhaps soft launch else where then Singapore?they have many projects on the line. bear in mind they are the top 2 in enbloc last year. those enbloc project will be marketed by them....

they have many projects on the line. bear in mind they are the top 2 in enbloc last year. those enbloc project will be marketed by them....

Well... let's look forward to that. :)

DTZ is very strong in project marketing... they hv King's 8, Duchess Residences, Turquoise, Illoura, Reflection, The Rochester and etc currently.....

Okay, thanks :)

Shelford Suites launching within this 2weeks. located at end of shelford road near singapore bible school.
Showflat is ready, I've an appointment to see the developer coming wednesday... probably can share with u guys later.

Hi, any information on this?

Haven't launched yet.

Haven't launched yet.

I know. I was asking the agent who went for the briefing on Wed. No need for you to reply to state a fact which we all know. Thanks.

Umm. Ok, sorry :)

I know. I was asking the agent who went for the briefing on Wed. No need for you to reply to state a fact which we all know. Thanks.

Hi Guest, i would prefer you call me Josh.... hahaha
Regret to inform, ERA has not manage to secure the marketing rights yet.
In fact, CDL (at this moment) will hold back the launch date.

If you ask me, developer subtly mention launch will not be within this year, probably early Q1. It was hard for me to digest as well.:ohno:

Hope you win the marketing rights ^^

Then can tell us all the insider info :lol:

Hope you win the marketing rights ^^

Then can tell us all the insider info :lol:

I hope so too.... :)

Good news for you guys, ERA has been appointed marketing agency for Waterfront Waves.
In conjuction, our team has been selected in core team.
More insider info.... :banana:

Waterfront condos coming up at Bedok Reservoir

Four condominiums will be built where the former Waterfront View estate in Bedok Reservoir Road used to be. The first will be launched in the first quarter of next year , said developers Frasers Centrepoint and Far East Organization. It will be called Waterfront Waves and have 405 units, of which more than half will be three and four bedroom apartments. More than 60% of the units will also have reservoir views. Together known as the Waterfront collection, the four-condo development is the largest in the area to have a direct water frontage, the developers said. In all, it could have 1,600 units.

- The Straits Times, H30 (21st Nov 2007)

dont think it will be closed to Duchess Residence's selling price as DR is District 10 whereas Shelford Suites is in District 11. Closer to town, Residences@Evelyn and Newton Suites are only selling around $2000psf. Lucida is selling at around $1800psf.

First of all, welcome back! You seem to have disappeared for a while. With the slowdown in activity, now you have a little more time for us. :-)

I hope so too.... :)

Good news for you guys, ERA has been appointed marketing agency for Waterfront Waves.
In conjuction, our team has been selected in core team.
More insider info.... :banana:

Waterfront condos coming up at Bedok Reservoir

Four condominiums will be built where the former Waterfront View estate in Bedok Reservoir Road used to be. The first will be launched in the first quarter of next year , said developers Frasers Centrepoint and Far East Organization. It will be called Waterfront Waves and have 405 units, of which more than half will be three and four bedroom apartments. More than 60% of the units will also have reservoir views. Together known as the Waterfront collection, the four-condo development is the largest in the area to have a direct water frontage, the developers said. In all, it could have 1,600 units.

- The Straits Times, H30 (21st Nov 2007)

Good ^^

When is the launch? I think it will sell well.

How big is the plot of the Waterfront View? So big that can subdivide into 4 smaller plots?

Good ^^

When is the launch? I think it will sell well.

How big is the plot of the Waterfront View? So big that can subdivide into 4 smaller plots?

The privatised HUDC apartment and maisonette development has a site area of 809,445 sq ft. According to the Master Plan 2003, the site is zoned for ‘residential’ development with a maximum plot ratio of 2.5.

Launch probably by early next year. Got to keep our fingers cross if developer last min launch by Mid Dec this year.

First of all, welcome back! You seem to have disappeared for a while. With the slowdown in activity, now you have a little more time for us. :-)
never been away leh:lol:

The privatised HUDC apartment and maisonette development has a site area of 809,445 sq ft. According to the Master Plan 2003, the site is zoned for ‘residential’ development with a maximum plot ratio of 2.5.

Launch probably by early next year. Got to keep our fingers cross if developer last min launch by Mid Dec this year.

The plot is super big! :eek:

Even the one I am staying in now is only 620,000 sqft!

The plot is super big! :eek:

Even the one I am staying in now is only 620,000 sqft!

Then ur place probably have great en-block potential... hehe

Then ur place probably have great en-block potential... hehe

They tried, but no 80% :D

They tried, but no 80% :D

You know why they failed.....
Because they did not have you in the sales committee

You know why they failed.....
Because they did not have you in the sales committee

:D :D

looks launch ready. still no news of launch?

looks launch ready. still no news of launch?

I think ayanami mentioned something like it will launch 1Q next year ;)

Hey guys, showroom is up already for 16 Shelford. The old 18 Shelford is still there. That whole stretch is interesting, with a high and open view at the edge of the cliff.

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/169d2e0ca8_0.99MB

Hey guys, showroom is up.

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/169d2e0ca8_0.99MB

Hey guys, showroom is up already for 16 Shelford. The old 18 Shelford is still there. That whole stretch is interesting, with a high and open view at the edge of the cliff.

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/169d2e0ca8_0.99MB

Nice ;)

Hey guys, showroom is up.

http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/169d2e0ca8_0.99MB

Shelford Suites? ayanami took a few photos already but nice updates anyway ;)

The condo at 14 to 16 Shelford Road (by CDL) is completely different from the one at 18 Shelford Road (Popular Holdings). These are two separate condos. The completed showhouse is for Shelford Suites (by CDL). It should be launched in Q1 2008 (according to some forummers here).

The apartment at 18 Shelford Road is still standing. Some owners are still staying in there. If you want to have a look at the rendering of what the new apartment will look like, go to page 20 of the pdf at

http://www.listedcompany.com/ir/popular/misc/ar2007p1-39.pdf

I believe these two new condos will set a new benchmark price for The Shelford, Adam Park Condo and 19 Shelford Road.

The condo at 14 to 16 Shelford Road (by CDL) is completely different from the one at 18 Shelford Road (Popular Holdings). These are two separate condos. The completed showhouse is for Shelford Suites (by CDL). It should be launched in Q1 2008 (according to some forummers here).

The apartment at 18 Shelford Road is still standing. Some owners are still staying in there. If you want to have a look at the rendering of what the new apartment will look like, go to page 20 of the pdf at

http://www.listedcompany.com/ir/popular/misc/ar2007p1-39.pdf

I believe these two new condos will set a new benchmark price for The Shelford, Adam Park Condo and 19 Shelford Road.

Wow, a "L" shape plan. By the way, One Robin looks nice, but I have been on-site before and the site is relatively small :(

Though showflat is up, launch will likely be 2nd week of Jan.

Though showflat is up, launch will likely be 2nd week of Jan.

Why?

Why?


I checked with CDL, they are proposing for that week.
Nowadays, soft launch dates are hard to confirm....

I checked with CDL, they are proposing for that week.
Nowadays, soft launch dates are hard to confirm....

Oh..

Oh..

I really wonder what does this "oh" add to the discussion? Maybe Excelsvr can consider that he/she may want to post only if he/she has got more things to say. We appreciate views/comments. An "oh" does not really add much. It is frustrating opening a thread nowadays, and I generally have stopped opening threads when the latest comment is from Excelsvr. I wonder whether this is the reason why many of the forummers have left this site.
Many thanks.

I really wonder what does this "oh" add to the discussion? Maybe Excelsvr can consider that he/she may want to post only if he/she has got more things to say. We appreciate views/comments. An "oh" does not really add much. It is frustrating opening a thread nowadays, and I generally have stopped opening threads when the latest comment is from Excelsvr. I wonder whether this is the reason why many of the forummers have left this site.
Many thanks.

Well, my "oh" was a way to realise what Josh said, and using the K.I.S.S. way. I mean, you don't expect me to say "Oh, Josh, thank you for explaining to me, I appreciate it" when it actually means the same thing though longer?

Well but I'll listen to your complaint / opinion and try to post more meaningful posts :)

Well, my "oh" was a way to realise what Josh said, and using the K.I.S.S. way. I mean, you don't expect me to say "Oh, Josh, thank you for explaining to me, I appreciate it" when it actually means the same thing though longer?

Well but I'll listen to your complaint / opinion and try to post more meaningful posts :)

My point is that this is a discussion board. This is not your personal forum. For your private KISS/OH/AR, you may wish to send a private message to the intended receipient. And I have sent you earlier emails to ask you to be a little more considerate instead of clogging up this forum. Thanks.

My point is that this is a discussion board. This is not your personal forum. For your private KISS/OH/AR, you may wish to send a private message to the intended receipient. And I have sent you earlier emails to ask you to be a little more considerate instead of clogging up this forum. Thanks.

What emails? I did not receive any from you! Did you send under another recipient?

I agree with Guest. It has been tough to dig through valuable contribution these days with many one liner comments, everywhere. :ohno:

I agree with Guest. It has been tough to dig through valuable contribution these days with many one liner comments, everywhere. :ohno:

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Shelford Suites - Total units 77

2BR-6 units (83sm)
3BR-64 units (114-152sm)
4BR PH-6 units (256-382sm)
3BR PH-1unit (333sm)

still no launch date for this project?

still no launch date for this project?not yet.....

1. CDL - Shelford Suites.

2. East Coast Properties Pte Ltd - 5542P MK 17 Shelford Road [25 Shelford Road - the old "Shelford Residence"?]

3. Popular Land Pte Ltd - 5005T MK 17 Shelford Road [18 Shelford Road - the old "Shelford Vale"]

4. Hoi Hup Shelford Realty Pte Ltd - 6706T MK 17 Shelford Road [23 Shelford Road - the old "Shelford Court"]

These four new developments should set new bench-mark prices for condos in that area.

Under the "Prices of Units Sold in Private Residential Properties" in the URA website, it is reported that 2 units of Shelford Suites were sold in Mar 08. 15 units have been launced. No caveats were lodged for these two units.

The PSF prices are $1869 and $1905 for these two units... Setting new benchmark for the area?

Under the "Prices of Units Sold in Private Residential Properties" in the URA website, it is reported that 2 units of Shelford Suites were sold in Mar 08. 15 units have been launced. No caveats were lodged for these two units.

The PSF prices are $1869 and $1905 for these two units... Setting new benchmark for the area?
Yes, this will be a record for Shelford area. Comparable to the price in Duchess area.

preview is this weekend

Keep us posted about the outcome of the preview, if you do have any visibility.

Was there today. Average pricing SGD1,600

Mainly 2 and 3 bedrooms, fyi

Cheers

Anyone know what's the take up rate? How many sold out of total launched?

Anyone has any idea whether any unit is sold thus far?

Anyone has any idea whether any unit is sold thus far?

This is extracted from URA website for May 2008 as at today. 2 units out of 15 units launched to date sold.

Project Name
Street Name
Developer
Property Type
Locality
Total Number of Units in Project Cumulative Units Launched to-date Cumulative Units Sold to-date Cumulative Units Launched but Unsold Units Launched in the Month Units Sold in the Month Median Price
($psf) Number Sold By Price Range Lowest Price ($psf) Highest Price ($psf)
Shelford Suites Shelford Road City Developments Ltd Non-Landed CCR 77 15 2 13 0 0 - - -

Total (including ECs) 77 15 2 13 0 0 - - -
Total (excluding ECs) 77 15 2 13 0 0 - - -

from somewhere on the www...

"Encouraging sales indicative of improving home buying sentiment

Encouraging sales at recent project launches to boost June sales. We
understand from City Development management that around 15 out of the 77
units in the recent soft launch of the Shelford Suites project near the upcoming Botanic Gardens MRT have been sold at ASP around S$1500-1600 psf. ..."

Has this been launched? Any renderings?

http://www.18shelford.com/

http://www.18shelford.com/main.html

Saw the site on Google earth; quite a few projects nearby.... if price to steep should just take up the ready projects next door.