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Sponsor
October 17th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Seems Adrian want to reach 1000th post till Christmas :)
It's better to post update pics every few days or when something important happens.

Lucky Luke
October 17th, 2008, 10:37 PM
I think there is no such thing as too much updating

AdrianSuvalkai
October 17th, 2008, 10:58 PM
too much updating, I think that one update a week for Lubin stadium will be enough.
No in the pace of this construction. :)

Seems Adrian want to reach 1000th post till Christmas :)
Yea, it's very, very important... :)

It's better to post update pics every few days or when something important happens.
Mounting the grass on stadium in Lubin is important. :) (albo belek zębatych na czwartej trybunie)

I think there is no such thing as too much updating
holy words :applause:

krzysiu_
October 17th, 2008, 11:56 PM
So, you finally stop spamming those photos in here? That God! Since construction of stadiums in Gdansk, Wroclaw, Legia (Warsaw) and Chorzow are gonna start in the next couple of weeks (only in Chorzow construction is gonna start in june 2009), I don't every want to think how many photos AdrianSuvalkai is going post here...

AdrianSuvalkai
October 18th, 2008, 01:35 AM
^^ so, You don't know if these stadiums have own threads? You don't remember that you there wrote? :lol:
EOT

------

Todays photos from speedway stadium in Torun.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1271/fcdb205991d170967a47d3hr5.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4765/cc63114f98ad74ce31253foe5.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8710/fdea2a0bc275bd0c0af287uz1.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9210/6b0710d55ca6633dff1432du6.jpg

more/source: http://sporttorun.pl/galeria_album,43.html

krzysiu_
October 18th, 2008, 12:04 PM
You don't remember that you there wrote?What does it mean?

Lucky Luke
October 18th, 2008, 12:35 PM
^^ You wrote That God earlier so you made a mistake too.

BTW I don't see any complains from foreign users so why are you krzysiu complaining? You don't complain that there are 2-3 updates each day on Polish forum so why do it here?

Witkowski
October 18th, 2008, 01:21 PM
its good that there are lots of updates. dont stop please!

AdrianSuvalkai
October 18th, 2008, 01:27 PM
@krzysiu_

One question. What's wrong with uptading every day?

krzysiu_
October 18th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Your 'Updating' = spamming. One update per week or so should be enough I think... Ofc in polish thread we have photos almost everyday (like in case National stadium in Warsaw), but there's no sense posting the same photos here and there...If people wants to watch new photos everyday, they can just go to our polish thread...

rakim
October 18th, 2008, 02:44 PM
I totally agree with krzysiu

Dzwonsson
October 18th, 2008, 05:49 PM
I have to agree with krzysiu too. Despite I'd like see new pics really often, despite I appreciate your efforts with showing us every side of all Polish constructions... I gotta say, that, what you're doing here now, seems to be spam. Am I right?

By the way, stadium in Lubin with installed new turf looks truly colorful. :D

Edit: I forgot to ask about something. On Toruń's stadium will be organised football matches too?

krzysiu_
October 18th, 2008, 05:54 PM
BTW I don't see any complains from foreign users so why are you krzysiu complaining? You don't complain that there are 2-3 updates each day on Polish forum so why do it here?It's not an update, it's a spam, geez...I was trying to find a thread where people are spamming photos everyday from the webcam or something and you know what...couldn't find, not even one...On Toruń's stadium will be organised football matches too?Probably not.

AdrianSuvalkai
October 18th, 2008, 06:38 PM
Your 'Updating' = spamming. One update per week or so should be enough I think... Ofc in polish thread we have photos almost everyday (like in case National stadium in Warsaw), but there's no sense posting the same photos here and there...If people wants to watch new photos everyday, they can just go to our polish thread...

Well, your argument convinced me. So:
stadium in Lubin: x1 cam in week + photos
stadium in Torun: all 'uptades' from polish thread

But later , I will add in here some uptades from stadiums in Kraków (Cracovia), Białystok, Bielsko-Biała. ;)

Edit: I forgot to ask about something. On Toruń's stadium will be organised football matches too?
No, only speedway.

krzysiu_
October 19th, 2008, 07:33 PM
Stadium in Bialystok 25k :

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/4138/z4138340X.jpg

http://images31.fotosik.pl/354/64e094507d3cafd2.jpg

http://images30.fotosik.pl/271/cec41a783de4a052.jpg

Construction (but first demolish the old stadium) has just began. :cheers:

AdrianSuvalkai
October 23rd, 2008, 02:52 PM
Today in Lubin

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5286/screenhunter02oct231335th5.gif
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4192/screenhunter05oct231336vl0.gif
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5241/screenhunter06oct231336bz0.gif

more: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27009064&postcount=1466

AdrianSuvalkai
October 27th, 2008, 04:22 PM
Photos from speedway stadium in Toruń. (24.10.08)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5868/e4d3aa33f62f89aa6f9067ts0.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9316/47405c26a1e98ecffd63cadh0.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7188/fdc65a93353592ec1653c7oe7.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5226/6b5bfb0918f426b898b657el5.jpg

more/source: http://sporttorun.pl/galeria_album,47.html

krzysiu_
October 30th, 2008, 03:56 PM
New Arena in Gliwice 15 k, construction suppose to start in summer 2009 :

http://img.naszemiasto.pl/grafika2/nowy/3a/40_881808_1_d_1505.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01776.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01787.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01788.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01789.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01790.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01791.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01792.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01793.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Podium%20Gliwice/DSC01794.jpg

AdrianSuvalkai
October 30th, 2008, 06:20 PM
Stadium in Lubin. Today.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7848/screenhunter03oct301613lx7.gif

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8457/screenhunter05oct301614or5.gif

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5651/screenhunter07oct301614jc6.gif

and todays photos, author: kiko9107, more photos in hight resolution here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27353704&postcount=1506)

http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/7627/155jtj6cy6.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7627/vy5w8ydj5.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1141/3178l1ujz7.jpg

AdrianSuvalkai
November 2nd, 2008, 01:44 AM
Arena in Łódź (11.500)

outside
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3774/stitched002tt5yd5.jpg

inside
http://images48.fotosik.pl/25/3c489bcf1985e195med.jpghttp://images31.fotosik.pl/391/41cea9768ea06ffemed.jpg

http://images32.fotosik.pl/391/1f94ddf4f6d4eec5med.jpghttp://images36.fotosik.pl/25/a61fa19d9f9ac068med.jpg

more/source:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27408770&postcount=1858
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27168004&postcount=1847

krzysiu_
November 2nd, 2008, 01:38 AM
Gdansk/Sopot Arena, 15k

Parę fotek z dzisiejszego dnia

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000946.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000947.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000948.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000949.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000951.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000952.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000954.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000955.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000959.jpg


Droga zielona prawie gotowa ;)

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000960.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000961.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000963.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000964.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000965.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000966.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000967.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000968.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000969.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000970.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000971.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000973.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000974.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000975.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000978.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000979.jpg

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1000981.jpg

cichy87
November 2nd, 2008, 02:06 PM
i don't see any photos

AdrianSuvalkai
November 3rd, 2008, 07:56 AM
:redx: :redx: :redx:

Dzwonsson
November 3rd, 2008, 03:55 PM
Still no pics there. :(

AdrianSuvalkai
November 3rd, 2008, 11:26 PM
Ok, todays photos from speedway stadium in Toruń.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7744.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7761.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7747.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7796.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7745.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7761.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7784.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7770.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7791.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7756P.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/jareckic/stadion%20torun%202008%2011%2003/IMG_7777P.jpg

author:Jareckic
more/source:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27546366&postcount=852 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27546032&postcount=850

AdrianSuvalkai
November 5th, 2008, 07:14 PM
Todays photos from stadium in Lubin.

http://i36.tinypic.com/otevx2.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/akd3ys.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/2wgax7a.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/9kpbtg.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/2hfnvh2.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/nn2xcz.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/zmyv5i.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2eark8o.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/21e14xg.jpg

author: kiko9107
more/source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27637480&postcount=1551

AdrianSuvalkai
November 7th, 2008, 03:53 PM
New photos from speedway stadium in Toruń (15.000).

http://www.stadion-dla-torunia.alstal.eu/mambots/content/multithumb/images/1421339796.jpg

http://www.stadion-dla-torunia.alstal.eu/mambots/content/multithumb/images/3707115966.jpg

http://www.stadion-dla-torunia.alstal.eu/mambots/content/multithumb/images/2622972900.jpg

http://www.stadion-dla-torunia.alstal.eu/mambots/content/multithumb/images/2704755284.jpg

more/source: http://www.stadion-dla-torunia.alstal.eu/content/view/107/50/

krzysiu_
November 7th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Przecież wklejałeś fotki 3 dni temu, no zlituj się i przestań spamować do cholery, prosiłem cie...:bash:

TwItCH
November 7th, 2008, 11:48 PM
^^ calm down, bro. I enjoy his updates.

sampras
November 8th, 2008, 12:11 AM
4 months and only 316 posts.
not even 100 a month....... ;]

but... is that a race ?

Siera
November 8th, 2008, 02:00 AM
Przecież wklejałeś fotki 3 dni temu, no zlituj się i przestań spamować do cholery, prosiłem cie...:bash:
Skończ lamentować dziecko.

AdrianSuvalkai
November 8th, 2008, 12:58 PM
Przecież wklejałeś fotki 3 dni temu, no zlituj się i przestań spamować do cholery, prosiłem cie...:bash:

Wklejałem fotki 5 dni temu, kolejne wczoraj. Dałem je, ponieważ ukazały one stadion z lepszej perspektywy i pokazały z bliska konstrukcję dachu. Niewiadomo czy będzie taka okazja w przyszłości, więc wkleiłem je teraz. I teraz prośba z mojej strony - zrozum że przez kolejne ponad pół miesiąca nie będzie żadnej aktualizacji, więc nie wiem o co tyle krzyku.

Po drugie, kto tu spamuje? Chciałbyś mi zwrócić uwagę - pisz na PW. A tak siejesz tylko zamęt w tym wątku i będzie się tu toczyć zbędna dyskusja przez kolejne trzy strony. Naprawdę, istnieje takie coś jak priv.

4 months and only 316 posts.
not even 100 a month....... ;]

but... is that a race ?

Może ty masz jakiś problem z tym licznikiem postów, ale napewno nie ja.

END OF POLISH TOPIC

krzysiu_
November 9th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Gdansk/Sopot Arena, 15,000, 9.10.2008:

http://images33.fotosik.pl/401/6d5fe70eac72d3e2.jpg
http://images25.fotosik.pl/292/d96433a475b96afa.jpg
http://images33.fotosik.pl/401/3cec66bac7964178.jpg

Gdynia Arena, 5,000, 9.10.2008:

to ja dorzuce dzisiejsze w troszke wiekszej rozdzielczości.

http://images25.fotosik.pl/292/32d619a7818d2252.jpg
http://images25.fotosik.pl/292/fdfb15712489ee8f.jpg
http://images24.fotosik.pl/293/75c4c6c8829f3dc2.jpg
http://images31.fotosik.pl/396/d8f3f6a1336a4f2f.jpg
http://images33.fotosik.pl/401/43a6c815d63779a5.jpg
http://images26.fotosik.pl/293/d0f2945b02a799d3.jpg

AdrianSuvalkai
November 11th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Todays and yesterdays photos from stadium in Lubin.

Yesterday
http://i38.tinypic.com/2zid1zo.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/fe43e9.jpg
more/source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=27842354&postcount=1584


Today

http://i36.tinypic.com/25jk3yt.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/2ij5ldy.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/8ydidi.jpg

more/source: http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3344&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=675

Cracovia
November 12th, 2008, 10:02 AM
http://images28.fotosik.pl/271/4f580f71a45a3c1e.jpg
http://images24.fotosik.pl/293/928fcc5ebdcf2283.jpg
http://images46.fotosik.pl/8/2f814a4b2a97c815.jpg
^^Legnica new stadium, 3rd league team with a capacity around 7000 with possibility of expansion. Construction nearly finished

sibyl-vane
November 21st, 2008, 07:29 PM
Freakin hell...Gleiwitz looks amazing! Who will play in that arena?

krzysiu_
November 21st, 2008, 08:56 PM
Gdynia Arena 4,500:

http://images35.fotosik.pl/32/29d395091145012cmed.jpg
http://images49.fotosik.pl/33/2e6473d6eb6c45f5med.jpg
http://images43.fotosik.pl/32/23499e1d84e40455med.jpg
http://images34.fotosik.pl/404/cfc6a2d99ec65e7cmed.jpg
http://images38.fotosik.pl/32/3135a7b57dfd8f7dmed.jpg
http://images50.fotosik.pl/32/47d67364409ea61cmed.jpg
http://images32.fotosik.pl/403/de22945911fe1f2amed.jpg
http://images34.fotosik.pl/404/8d337420500341b3med.jpg
http://images34.fotosik.pl/404/84c5409d6fe9a34bmed.jpg
http://images26.fotosik.pl/297/28d1fcb215626a1amed.jpg
http://images36.fotosik.pl/32/dc00c02b4840a12emed.jpg
http://images32.fotosik.pl/403/864215e5b5a4b62cmed.jpg
http://images49.fotosik.pl/33/53762266c3131a46med.jpg
http://images38.fotosik.pl/32/d9b25f72977e8b88med.jpg

AdrianSuvalkai
November 22nd, 2008, 05:59 PM
Stadium in Toruń (15k). Todays photos:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3037/dsc03165en3.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7500/dsc03160oy2.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5128/dsc03166or5.jpg

author: mraku
source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28386132&postcount=973

AdrianSuvalkai
November 24th, 2008, 08:22 PM
Stadium in Lubin (16,5k)

http://i33.tinypic.com/2uiax6r.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/35m3713.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/ztslzb.jpg

author: kiko9107
source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28477996&postcount=1718

AdrianSuvalkai
November 29th, 2008, 06:30 PM
Arena in Łódź (12k)

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2663/dsc05100iz0np6.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/181/dsc05118ou5xu5.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/333/dsc04944fl2wt3.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9338/dsc04933xy3un5.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1945/dsc05074if2dj7.jpg

more photos in bigger resolution: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28666436&postcount=2030

AdrianSuvalkai
December 2nd, 2008, 04:16 PM
Stadium in Lubin

first seats :cheers:

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/stadion_02.12.08/5.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/stadion_02.12.08/2.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/stadion_02.12.08/6.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/stadion_02.12.08/10.jpg

more: http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/index.php?id=art&nr=4480

krzysiu_
December 4th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Bielsko-Biala U/C

http://ts.podbeskidzie.pl/pliki/stadion1.jpg

http://www.ts.podbeskidzie.pl/multimedia/galeria/Remont_stadionu/05%20Galeria%20-%2023.10.2008/05stadion2310.jpg

http://www.ts.podbeskidzie.pl/multimedia/galeria/Remont_stadionu/07%20Galeria%20-%2018.11.2008/08stadion1811.jpg

http://www.ts.podbeskidzie.pl/multimedia/galeria/Remont_stadionu/07%20Galeria%20-%2018.11.2008/03stadion1811.jpg

Bialystok, 20.000 U/C

http://www.wspolczesna.pl/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GW&Dato=20080617&Kategori=GALERIA01&Lopenr=684577644&Ref=PH&Item=1&MaxW=460&q=60&MaxH=500&Title=1&border=0

http://images47.fotosik.pl/37/e6606e553cf98fd5m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=e6606e553cf98fd5)http://images33.fotosik.pl/418/401774b70fa3fe02m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=401774b70fa3fe02)http://images43.fotosik.pl/37/d4ef9c9bc872e218m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=d4ef9c9bc872e218)
http://images33.fotosik.pl/418/4a3949ad266476f4m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=4a3949ad266476f4)
http://images35.fotosik.pl/37/a293aeb077fc5fa4m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=a293aeb077fc5fa4)
http://images28.fotosik.pl/301/14503c9997668861m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=14503c9997668861)
http://images42.fotosik.pl/37/1a8fe006ce572687m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=1a8fe006ce572687)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/412/e29eef2c102a608cm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=e29eef2c102a608c)
http://images33.fotosik.pl/418/9a45cfb0b32a0611m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=9a45cfb0b32a0611)
http://images40.fotosik.pl/37/adeb9d98a1ef7ce6m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=adeb9d98a1ef7ce6)
http://images28.fotosik.pl/301/b0a9fc51a5209d1em.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=b0a9fc51a5209d1e)
http://images32.fotosik.pl/412/7bc7cff2c1209eafm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=7bc7cff2c1209eaf)
http://images29.fotosik.pl/301/53111c70d8ace534m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=53111c70d8ace534)
http://images48.fotosik.pl/37/c0dafb302ea9597cm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=c0dafb302ea9597c)
http://images41.fotosik.pl/37/0182030949c2f7aam.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=0182030949c2f7aa)

tuzgc
December 7th, 2008, 01:29 AM
Zgorzelec Arena: 3500+ // cost: about 18 millions €
(mainly - basketball arena)


http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8638/nowahala1mx7.jpg

lpioe
December 7th, 2008, 01:11 PM
Bielsko-Biala U/C

http://ts.podbeskidzie.pl/pliki/stadion1.jpg

Bialystok, 20.000 U/C

http://www.wspolczesna.pl/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=GW&Dato=20080617&Kategori=GALERIA01&Lopenr=684577644&Ref=PH&Item=1&MaxW=460&q=60&MaxH=500&Title=1&border=0

What's the cap of the first one?
Second one looks nice. Are there more renders in better quality?

krzysiu_
December 7th, 2008, 01:54 PM
^^ Białystok (http://stadiony.net/project.php?p=113)

And the cap of the stadium in Bielsko-Biała will be 15.000. And more renders are available here (http://ts.podbeskidzie.pl/index.php?proc=informacje&nr_i=1795&nr_w=-1).

AdrianSuvalkai
December 14th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Gdynia Arena (capacity: +/- 4.500)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3093247896_c314a5ec66_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/3092408955_c04447cc46_b.jpg

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/tomektoon/DSCF8609.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/tomektoon/DSCF8624.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/tomektoon/DSCF8627.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/tomektoon/DSCF8630.jpg
http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp37/tomektoon/DSCF8640.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg295/PiotrekMila/511.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg295/PiotrekMila/512.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg295/PiotrekMila/514.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg295/PiotrekMila/518.jpg

more:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29105696&postcount=1132
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29105812&postcount=1133
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29108148&postcount=1139
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29118764&postcount=1145
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=29255122&postcount=1162

Van der Rohe
December 15th, 2008, 11:10 PM
Gdańsk/Sopot Arena:
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3048/dsc04707bg3.jpg

and the first professional rugby stadium in Poland, in Gdynia, capacity 2400 (due to be finished october 2009):
http://www.arkarugby.pl/images/stories/stadion/frugby4.jpg

http://www.arkarugby.pl/images/stories/stadion/frugby2.jpg

AdrianSuvalkai
December 18th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Stadium in Lubin

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/1.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/2.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/3.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/4.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/5.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/6.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/7.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/8.jpg http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/18.12.08/stadion/9.jpg

Timon91
December 18th, 2008, 05:16 PM
Maybe I'm asking a stupid question (I don't wanna look through this entire thread), but how is it going with the Euro 2012 stadiums? I've had a look in AdrianSuvalkai's signature, but I don't speak Polish, so I don't understand.

PiotrG
December 18th, 2008, 05:28 PM
In Warsaw the first stage lasts construction, a few days ago an executive plan was given back to the ground part of the stadium, a tender for the general contractor lasts, start of the construction in April 2009.

Earthworks took part in Gdańsk, they will last by June for 2009. Currently a tender for the construction of the stadium also lasts, the start of construction is being scheduled for April/May 2009.

In Wrocław a tender for construction of the stadium is nearing the end, there is his decision tomorrow. The exchange of contracts with the general contractor is supposed to take place still in December, start of construction in January 2009.

In Poznań they already signed an agreement with the contractor for completing construction of the stadium, start of construction in January 2009. At present a demolition of old podiums is ending.

In Cracow a tender for construction of the new C podium was adjudicated, knocking the second podium down along the court and the structure of the fricative partition wall up to the new podium. With the company the Polimex-Mostostal will undergo the exchange of contracts oneself in December, start of construction in January 2009. At the same time a tender for the new A/B podium lasts, settling in January 2009.

In Chorzów at present a tender for the general contractor lasts reconstructions of the old stadium, the start of works is being scheduled for July 2009.

In the Ukraine all stadiums are already under construction. The stadium in Dnipropetrovsk is finished, in Donetsk construction is nearing the end (an end of works is May 2009). In Kharkiv the modernization of the stadium is also nearing the end.

krzysiu_
December 18th, 2008, 08:44 PM
Stadium in Białystok, more reneders, 22,500, U/C, Opening is scheduled on autumn 2011.

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2313.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2314.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2315.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2316.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2318.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2319.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2321.jpg

http://www.jagiellonia.pl/zdjecie/image2322.jpg

Construction:

http://www.wspolczesna.pl/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=GW&Date=20081210&Category=REG00&ArtNo=109434424&Ref=V1&MaxW=580&border=0&title=1

Btw. It's unbelievable how many stadiums is U/C now or the construction start within couple of weeks/months in Poland. UNBELIEVABLE :cheers:

Timon91
December 18th, 2008, 08:50 PM
@PiotrG: Thanks for the summary. In the Netherlands we only hear that Ukraine has severe problems with the stadiums, but it seems to be going well :cheers:

Dzwonsson
December 18th, 2008, 09:23 PM
^^ That's right. In the Netherlands we don't have a lot of opportunities to get news about preparing infrastructure concerning tournament coming after couple of years... However, if you really want to know what happens in this direction, you can always ask right here or in Polish part of the forum. You'll find there guys who speak English (or Dutch ;)) for sure and will give you all of needed answers. :)

berkshire royal
December 18th, 2008, 09:25 PM
Nice stadium in Białystok, very similair to the Madejski Stadium might I add so for obvious reasons it looks great to me, what division does the team play in and will they be able to fill the stadium?

krzysiu_
December 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM
Ekstraklasa (it's like...Primera Div. in Spain =D ) and it's hard to say will they be able to fill the stadium, maybe...but it won't be empty, that's for sure...

Timon91
December 18th, 2008, 09:56 PM
^^ That's right. In the Netherlands we don't have a lot of opportunities to get news about preparing infrastructure concerning tournament coming after couple of years... However, if you really want to know what happens in this direction, you can always ask right here or in Polish part of the forum. You'll find there guys who speak English (or Dutch ;)) for sure and will give you all of needed answers. :)

Yeah, I guess so. I can keep up to date by following the signatures of some Polish members, like PiotrG :)

You live quite close to Abcoude, btw :lol:

Dzwonsson
December 18th, 2008, 11:36 PM
^^ Yup, that's right... Actually Abcoude is really nice town, I remember, that few months ago, during "de openbaar vervoerstaking", I had to get exactly to Abcoude by bike to take train going to Utrecht Centraal... It was truly f****d up period. :lol:

Lucky Luke
December 19th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Nice stadium in Białystok, very similair to the Madejski Stadium might I add so for obvious reasons it looks great to me, what division does the team play in and will they be able to fill the stadium?


I think that there shouldn't be problems with filling the stadium.

polskadan
December 19th, 2008, 08:01 PM
There definitly should be no problem filling the stadium...hell jagiellonia bialystok fans already fill up there old stadium now, just wait until they get a new stadium to attract even more fans. This is one of many teams in Poland that has a very strong fan base and history, so yes, there stadium will be filled :).

PL2012
December 21st, 2008, 06:01 AM
Can anybody tell me when we should start seeing major construction start in i cities such as wroclaw, gdansk, warsaw?

krzysiu_
December 21st, 2008, 03:51 PM
Stadium constructions? Gdańsk - U/C, Warsaw - U/C, Wrocław - january/february 2009

PL2012
December 21st, 2008, 07:05 PM
Yes i know but what I meant is stands going up and full steam construction like in poznan.

erteel
December 21st, 2008, 07:38 PM
Gdańsk - they are starting groundworks such as exchange the soil etc. so the construction should starts in May/June 2009
Wrocław - construction should go on in January 2009
Warsaw - the general builder should starts around May 2009 but it's already U/C.

PL2012
December 22nd, 2008, 02:28 AM
Ok so around spring this year thanks.

Sponsor
December 28th, 2008, 12:15 AM
Lubin - 16k

http://images37.fotosik.pl/43/869980b2aae31a3b.jpg

http://images37.fotosik.pl/43/226791a3d26b78a8.jpg

http://images34.fotosik.pl/425/7a17586d99975e9a.jpg

http://images47.fotosik.pl/43/15bee59a7f9f2f92.jpg

A tak przy okazji to odradzam kupowanie biletów i karnetów na miejsca w pierwszym rzędzie - barierka kompletnie ogranicza widoczność !!

AdrianSuvalkai
December 30th, 2008, 02:48 AM
Toruń 15k, speedway stadium

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6017/026dm1.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8240/027pg4.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9412/001uw8.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/111/002ic9.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9679/019mx6.jpg

more: http://www.stadion-dla-torunia.alstal.eu/content/view/112/50/

AdrianSuvalkai
January 6th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Lubin, 16 300

Nowe fotki z oficjalnej strony http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/1.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/2.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/3.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/4.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/5.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/6.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/7.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/8.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/05.01.2009/stadion/10.jpg

krzysiu_
January 6th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Speedway Stadium in Toruń, 15.000:

http://www.nowosci.com.pl/cgi-bin/get_img?NrArticle=124942&NrImage=2

rakim
January 7th, 2009, 11:37 AM
Gdańsk/Sopot Arena

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/kemot88/P1010821.jpg

IHaveNoLegs
January 8th, 2009, 11:35 AM
does anyone know how many suites are being built in these polish stadiums?

kamko
January 8th, 2009, 08:39 PM
does anyone know how many suites are being built in these polish stadiums?

Seats ???

Warsaw - 55 000
Lubin - 16 300
Poznań - 46 500
Kraków - 33 500
Gdańsk (Baltic Arena) - 44 000
Wrocław - 44 000

Maximus1962
January 8th, 2009, 10:09 PM
Seats ???

Warsaw - 55 000
Lubin - 16 300
Poznań - 46 500
Kraków - 33 500
Gdańsk (Baltic Arena) - 44 000
Wrocław - 44 000

he meant vip boxes/skyboxes or whatever else you wanna call them ;) not seats

IHaveNoLegs
January 9th, 2009, 05:42 AM
^^ what he said

Lucky Luke
January 9th, 2009, 11:44 PM
does anyone know how many suites are being built in these polish stadiums?

Warsaw - 55 000 ( 60 )
Warsaw - 32 000 ( 20 )
Lubin - 16 300 ( unknown )
Poznań - 46 500 ( 40 )
Kraków - 33 500
Gdańsk (Baltic Arena) - 44 000 ( 40 )
Wrocław - 44 000 (20 )
Chorzów - 55 000 ( 20 )

krzysiu_
January 12th, 2009, 05:35 PM
Gdańsk/Sopot Arena 13,500:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30623058&postcount=3038

Łódź Arena 12,000:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30588706&postcount=2253
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30580460&postcount=2241
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30570044&postcount=2186
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30570664&postcount=2188
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=30571004&postcount=2193

Sponsor
January 12th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Gdańsk/Sopot Arena 13,500:
Łódź Arena 12,000:

Isn't this 11,5k and 11k ?

sporttorun.pl
January 12th, 2009, 09:19 PM
www.sporttorun.pl << 09/11.01 TORUŃ

Cracovia
January 15th, 2009, 01:28 AM
Isn't this 11,5k and 11k ?

no

Cracovia
January 15th, 2009, 01:40 AM
Bialystok stadium 22 000

http://websky.pl/~lukas/estadio/6.jpg
http://jaga-foto.pl/images/photoalbum/album_34/16.jpg
http://images35.fotosik.pl/44/ca6d4400dccd25bcmed.jpg
http://images31.fotosik.pl/427/7b214f946c8d199amed.jpg
^^tempory roof for VIP sector
http://images25.fotosik.pl/308/224cee9c752f09b3med.jpg

Katowice 15 000(Phased construction, currently doing new heated pitch and lighting and tender is ready for building project for rest of stadium)

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/4084/z4084139X.jpg
^^currently:ohno::ohno::ohno:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7641/untitledss5.jpg
^^not final project just vision of how things could change.

http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/12319406157331.jpg
^^new lights
http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/12319406178161.jpg

Cracovia
January 15th, 2009, 01:53 AM
The Arena is meant to be complete by 2012 and will cost approximatley 100mln euros to complete

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/5036/z5036155Z.jpg

http://www.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/albums/album939/DSCF3238_kopia.sized.jpg

http://www.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/albums/album939/DSCF3254_kopia.sized.jpg

http://www.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/albums/album939/DSCF3249_kopia.sized.jpg

Carrerra
January 15th, 2009, 11:58 AM
The Arena is meant to be complete by 2012 and will cost approximatley 100mln euros to complete

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/5036/z5036155Z.jpg

http://www.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/albums/album939/DSCF3238_kopia.sized.jpg

http://www.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/albums/album939/DSCF3254_kopia.sized.jpg

http://www.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/albums/album939/DSCF3249_kopia.sized.jpg

Wow very good! Btw is there any professional volleyball league in your country? If so, how many clubs?

DJRexxx
January 15th, 2009, 12:19 PM
Wow very good! Btw is there any professional volleyball league in your country? If so, how many clubs?

One of the best in Europe!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Volleyball_League

And the best fans in the world

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Yo5GrsQsCxI

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Cracovia
January 15th, 2009, 04:55 PM
Volleyball is probably the second most popular sport after football, with basketball, speedway and skiing coming close behind

renco
January 15th, 2009, 07:43 PM
where :?

krzysiu_
January 15th, 2009, 08:07 PM
Isn't this 11,5k and 11k ?Gdańsk/Sopot Arena: 11,000+4,000

Łódź Arena: 10,000 + 4,000

where :?:?:

mphws
January 15th, 2009, 08:12 PM
where :?

In Poland

Carrerra
January 16th, 2009, 02:58 AM
Volleyball is probably the second most popular sport after football, with basketball, speedway and skiing coming close behind

You mean volleyball is a bit more popular than basketball in Poland? Wow sensational! Personally I like volleyball very very very much, too

Sponsor
January 16th, 2009, 09:52 AM
You mean volleyball is a bit more popular than basketball in Poland? Wow sensational! Personally I like volleyball very very very much, too
I'd risk to say basketball isn't popular in Poland at all. IMO only football and volleyball is so popular that we can see people playing it on the street. Last time handball became more popular but we usually just watch it on TV (tomorrow vs. Algieria) similar as ski jumping and biathlon.

Maximus1962
January 16th, 2009, 11:19 AM
^^ Agreed, but you would be surprised how popular speedway is too. Unfortunatelly, firms don't investm much into our basketball league - hence the quite poor media buzz and interest. Quite sad considering the fact that we are hosting the basketball Euro Champs this year...

Sponsor
January 16th, 2009, 12:05 PM
^^ Agreed, but you would be surprised how popular speedway is too.
Indeed, but it's very popular in a few polish cities like Bydgosz, Toruń, Leszno, Gorzów Wlkp.
Football and volleyball are popular everywhere in PL.

renco
January 16th, 2009, 05:20 PM
In Poland

Sorry then,I thought he ment worldwide.:)

likasz
January 16th, 2009, 06:23 PM
Cracovia are you sure that arena in Gdansk has 13500 seats?Maybe for concerts but not for sport events.
As I know it's about 12.000 seats for sport events.

Sponsor
January 16th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Cracovia are you sure that arena in Gdansk has 13500 seats?Maybe for concerts but not for sport events.
As I know it's about 12.000 seats for sport events.
According to the official site (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=30837536) total capacity is 11 409 seats (all permanent seats). Maybe there will be possibility to put some chairs between playing fiels and stand but I'm not sure if there's enough space for 2 000 seats. :dunno:
http://gdansk.naszemiasto.pl/grafika2/nowy/19/40_521232_3_d_2030.jpg

Same situation in Łódź. Capacity is around 10-11k but by adding some chairs it increases to 14k. It's not going to be right place for volleyball btw (field 9x18 m).
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6147/z6147722X.jpg

lakaix15
January 17th, 2009, 10:09 PM
Any have up to date Wisla krakow stadium or Lech Poznan stadium construction pictures?

Sponsor
January 17th, 2009, 11:15 PM
Any have up to date Wisla krakow stadium or Lech Poznan stadium construction pictures?
www.budowa.maroonpoint.com <-- LECH

krzysiu_
January 19th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Speedway Stadium in Toruń 15,000:

18.01.09

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5205/dsc03271iq7.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/4317/dsc03276zt1.jpg

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/9048/dsc03284uf0.jpg

Nikodem
January 20th, 2009, 01:20 AM
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/5205/dsc03271iq7.jpg

Almost like Olimpiastadion in Berlin, huh?

AdrianSuvalkai
January 20th, 2009, 01:59 PM
Lubin, 16.300

http://i39.tinypic.com/auzabq.jpg
W pełnej rozdzielczości do ściągnięcia tutaj http://www.sendspace.pl/file/DUqsQnmX/
http://i43.tinypic.com/357j9mt.jpg
W pełnej rozdzielczości do ściągnięcia tutaj http://www.sendspace.pl/file/EbYSKMMT/
http://i40.tinypic.com/2nvfiok.jpg
W pełnej rozdzielczości do ściągnięcia tutaj http://www.sendspace.pl/file/RJ2exOOr/

railcity
January 20th, 2009, 03:29 PM
How will people reach the Lubin stadium? Will there be bridges on a high level, or stairs along the old stadium stands, or some solution inbetween?

erteel
January 20th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Yes, there will be bridges like in Leipzig.

krzysiu_
January 24th, 2009, 01:06 PM
Small Arena in Bytom, construction is just starting, constructor: SKANSKA S.A


http://images32.fotosik.pl/15/16c035d39e8db557.jpg
http://images34.fotosik.pl/15/d83eea652123383d.jpg
http://images33.fotosik.pl/15/f3d40f5b306a9563.jpg

Cracovia
January 25th, 2009, 04:24 PM
they plan to host the interschool championships at that arena

krzysiu_
January 25th, 2009, 04:28 PM
Capacity: something around 1.000...

TwItCH
January 25th, 2009, 07:36 PM
looks nice, the glass part reminds me of the planned Jewish museum in Warsaw

lakaix15
January 26th, 2009, 07:02 AM
www.budowa.maroonpoint.com <-- LECH

thanks

krzysiu_
January 26th, 2009, 02:24 PM
Almost like Olimpiastadion in Berlin, huh?Yep, Olimpiastadion's 5-years old brother :lol:

AdrianSuvalkai
January 26th, 2009, 08:09 PM
One-tribune rugby stadium in Gdynia. Capacity 2400.


obydwa ptaszki:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5634/rugby1bd5.jpg

widać już zbrojenie konstrukcji trybuny:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7980/rugby4nu5.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8620/rugby7mz2.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6893/rugby5dh0.jpg

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1910/rugby6rw6.jpg

Ogólnie jestem bardzo pozytywnie zaskoczony tempem robót. Oby tak dalej. :cheers:


Stadion Miejski in Białystok. Capacity 25 000. Demolition of old stands.

24.01.2009
http://www.jagiellonia.net/galeria/albums/2008_2009/runda_jesienna/inne/2009_01_24_stadion_cz1/tn_dsc00036.jpg

http://jagiellonia.net/galeria/albums/userpics/Resize_of_IMG_9020.JPG

galerie:
http://www.jagiellonia.net/index.php?co=galeria_szczegoly&id=569
http://jagiellonia.net/index.php?co=galeria_szczegoly&id=567

Bobby3
January 27th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Is the speedway stadium the first one purpose built for the sport this decade?

Sponsor
February 1st, 2009, 02:06 PM
New renders - Cracovia stadium 17-18k (?)

Było??
http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_cracovia01.jpg

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_cracovia02.jpg

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_cracovia03.jpg

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_cracovia04.jpg


Previous design to compare


i chyba wcześniejsze do porównania:
http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_plyta-copy.jpg

Cracovia
February 1st, 2009, 02:54 PM
The last render in the ones you gave sponsor is an old one to compare to the new one ;) The capacity is either 17500 or 18500 don't remember exactly

Sponsor
February 1st, 2009, 03:51 PM
Didn't notice that earlier ^^ But new version of main stand looks so much better now ;)


Gdynia Indoor - cap. 4 500


http://img.naszemiasto.pl/misc/upload/f2/46/hala_cf.jpg
http://lotospkobp.pl/galerie/74/d/1233436170378.jpg
http://lotospkobp.pl/galerie/74/d/1233436061277.jpg

iambic peremeter
February 5th, 2009, 12:03 AM
What about plans to build any modern ice -hockey arenas for mr.iambic?

Van der Rohe
February 6th, 2009, 12:25 AM
What about plans to build any modern ice -hockey arenas for mr.iambic?

unfortunately, ice hockey is presently on a low level in Poland and present arenas are fulfilling the needs

Paolo
February 6th, 2009, 01:33 AM
Just opposite, lack of appropriate arenas makes practicing hockey in Poland ridiculous - young polish players even those very talented can play not more than few hours a week - what is rather funny when we compare it to Czech or Slovakia... They have lot of willingness and their parents enough money for equipment and travels but lack of appropriate arenas make their efforts futile :(

Cracovia
February 6th, 2009, 10:35 AM
The Ice hockey Arena was recently modernised in Tychy...it has a capacity of 3000. I would agree Ice Hockey is heavily under invested in. It cost 28million PLN to modernise, it was constructed in the 70s, there are still long term plans to build a new ice hockey arena after the new football stadium. Then this arena would be turned into a basketball venue, as Tychy has a prominent basketball team close to promotion to the first league.

http://static.sport24.pl/galeria/zdjecia/big/8/445/DSCF8757.JPG
http://static.sport24.pl/galeria/zdjecia/big/8/444/P1140907.JPG
http://static.sport24.pl/galeria/zdjecia/big/8/444/P1140675.JPG

borkosiu
February 8th, 2009, 11:52 AM
Volleyball is probably the second most popular sport after football, with basketball, speedway and skiing coming close behind:ohno:

it is not true, Speedway is the most popular (best frequency)sport in Poland so far, then football, volleyball, and the rest.

Sponsor
February 8th, 2009, 12:10 PM
it is not true, Speedway is the most popular (best frequency)sport in Poland so far, then football, volleyball, and the rest.

If you mind stadium attendance - maybe then it is. But it's not only that. Think - how many people watch speedway in TV a week? I don't know anybody.
How many people watch football in TV? There are tens I know just in my neibourhood. Popularity is all about watching, spectating, practising and loving the sport.

DJRexxx
February 8th, 2009, 02:39 PM
:ohno:

it is not true, Speedway is the most popular (best frequency)sport in Poland so far, then football, volleyball, and the rest.

LOL!

Cracovia
February 13th, 2009, 06:55 PM
The tender was launched today for the construction of Cracovia Stadium
The deadline for showing interest in the construction is 26.2.09. After that it usually takes about 4-8 weeks for the tender process to finish and construction to begin.

http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_cracovia01.jpg
http://www.lamela.com/DEPOT/fotos/0460_-_tpr_-_cracovia03.jpg

TwItCH
February 13th, 2009, 11:43 PM
^^the outside looks fantastic

kiko9107
February 14th, 2009, 12:30 AM
Lubin 16.300

February 11th, 2009


http://images43.fotosik.pl/61/9162d81f4e60f533.jpg

Today

http://photos.nasza-klasa.pl/935623/84/main/d0ac7bd458.jpeg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9127/panorama1pc8.jpg

http://images45.fotosik.pl/63/3b6461db3b2623f6med.jpg

http://images47.fotosik.pl/63/1e9c449dc0dfd74b.jpg

http://images40.fotosik.pl/59/d157d9d28fccadfc.jpg

http://images35.fotosik.pl/59/34f30b0ecbd6a557.jpg

http://images47.fotosik.pl/63/4b3399e45822c693.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=518239&page=143

adas22
February 17th, 2009, 02:41 PM
Gdansk/Sopot Arena

by elpolako

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/jarmul/pano1.jpg?t=1234622925

AdrianSuvalkai
February 20th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Photos from stadium in Lubin. Official name is DIALOG ARENA.

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/19.02.2009/5.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/19.02.2009/1.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/19.02.2009/3.jpg

http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/19.02.2009/2.jpghttp://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/upload/19.02.2009/4.jpg
source: http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl

sporttorun.pl
February 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM
21.02 New photo from stadium in Toruń

>> www.sporttorun.pl

vid11
February 22nd, 2009, 07:26 PM
^

http://sporttorun.pl/galeria_album/79.html

Alemanniafan
February 22nd, 2009, 07:37 PM
^

http://sporttorun.pl/galeria_album/79.html
A very nice stadium!
But the one thing I don't like too much, is that the Supportbeams carrying the roof are within the seating area, so as it seems there will be quite a large number of seats with obstructed views. So it would have been better to have the support of the roof just those three or four rows further back in the very rear end of the upper tier. But otherwise the architecture of the stadium is really very nice!

Sponsor
February 25th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Cracov - 15k

http://www.muratorplus.pl/media/image/19704/image/353ffe4c5838548a9f5041ab71ea4841f1ea570c_800x0_romiar-niestandardowy.jpg



Lubin - 16k

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4269/06a936482052f459.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1551/32cca14f200dcf21.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1613/34c12e98d9a31e59.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8444/b8f9c252ad1c3071.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/61/bd532bcff96deac8.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8961/b57bd02e3b9dc05f.jpg
Zagłębie lubin forum - by (c)Kazam

Cracovia
February 26th, 2009, 01:02 AM
Cracovia - 18k

http://www.muratorplus.pl/media/image/19704/image/353ffe4c5838548a9f5041ab71ea4841f1ea570c_800x0_romiar-niestandardowy.jpg


Sorry bout misinforming you but they decided on the 15.500 version (more vip/ press places and all that shit). Any way the deadline for offers has been delayed by 10 days till March 6th. This stadium should be U/C in max 8 weeks, if all goes smoothly.

Cracovia
February 26th, 2009, 01:14 AM
New 7K arena planned for Torun

http://www.pomorska.pl/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=PO&Date=20090223&Category=TORUN01&ArtNo=234464199&Ref=AR&MaxW=580&border=0&title=1

Also 7K arena in Szczecin soon to be U/C (this year)

http://www.szczecin.eu/sites/default/files/images/hala_sportowa(1).preview.jpg

Small 4k stadium soon to be U/C in Pulawy as part of sport and recreation komplex. Pulawy have a 3rd football league team.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7452/stadionkd4.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=32815666&postcount=33
^^Projects for whole komplex

Also 10K stadium planned for Second league team Odra Opole and 15K stadium for 3rd League team GKS Tychy both in quite advanced project phases though no visualisations yet. Tychy plan to start construction by the end of this year in November time and Opole next year. Good to see that the stadium mania is filtering down to lower leagues ;)

Cracovia
February 26th, 2009, 01:33 AM
Also New 15K stadium for Bytom construction is planned for next year

http://bytomski.pl/album_pic.php?pic_id=2387
^^Old project

http://www.bytom.pl/galeria/1233925262/1233925309.jpg

^^ Bytoms mayor holding new similar project not yet released to media ;)

Bytom Stadium today
http://www.mmsilesia.pl/rep/newsph/2957/15852.3.jpg
http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/12355550819398.jpg
http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/12355550721016.jpg

Sponsor
February 26th, 2009, 01:38 AM
Sorry bout misinforming you but they decided on the 15.500 version (more vip/ press places and all that shit). Any way the deadline for offers has been delayed by 10 days till March 6th. This stadium should be U/C in max 8 weeks, if all goes smoothly.
My mistake also I should have checked this out before ;)

Carrerra
February 26th, 2009, 03:08 AM
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8961/b57bd02e3b9dc05f.jpg
Zagłębie lubin forum - by (c)Kazam


Artificial turf in Lubin?

Maximus1962
February 26th, 2009, 10:59 AM
^^ Nope. I think they just started testing turf heating system last week... hence the snow outside the sidelines.

Cracovia
February 27th, 2009, 12:16 PM
New Multiuse arena in Plock 5.5K

Soon to be U/C currently in tender phase. Construction to begin within 8 weeks and to be finished within 18 monthes.

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4657/z4657542X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/4660/z4660298X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/1/4660/z4660271X.jpg
http://www.urbanity.pl/photos/30/37/23037.jpg
http://www.urbanity.pl/photos/30/34/23034.jpg
http://www.urbanity.pl/photos/30/33/23033.jpg

vid11
February 27th, 2009, 05:43 PM
This sucks imo!

Cracovia
February 27th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Its not bad for a provincial town

Cracovia
February 27th, 2009, 11:01 PM
12K football stadium in GLiwice...To be U/C this year!!

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Piast%20Gliwice/DSCN1270.jpg
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn137/oaktrees1969/Piast%20Gliwice/DSCN1269.jpg
http://www.piast.gliwice.pl/piast/stadiony/nowy_stadion.jpg

masterpaul
February 28th, 2009, 12:45 AM
cheap, a 5 year old can come up with an more interesting facade.

Cracovia
February 28th, 2009, 10:17 AM
I think it is meant to be cheap ;)

Mr.Underground
February 28th, 2009, 11:14 AM
I'm astonished to see how Poland is moving not only for Euro 2012, but for little venues for provincial town.

www.sercan.de
February 28th, 2009, 05:33 PM
Yeah. There is a huge satdium boom in Poland.

likasz
February 28th, 2009, 06:05 PM
To 2012 the minimal capacity of the polish extraklasa's stadiums will be 15.000.Now motorcycle speedway has two times bigger attendace than our domestic football league.In Leszno (70.000 inhabitants) for example some matche are watching by 25.000 people at stadium:D

pibito
February 28th, 2009, 08:23 PM
The required capacity of stadiums in 2012 year will depend from size of city.

Maniac047
February 28th, 2009, 09:32 PM
likasz you must add if we have 15000 uf roof seats, sry for my english :P:P

pibito
February 28th, 2009, 10:17 PM
We will have so a lot of modern stadiums. I can`t already wait for.

Maniac047
February 28th, 2009, 10:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Optimized_image_12088fbd.png

The European Basketball Championship of 2009, universally referred to as EuroBasket 2009, will be the 36th regional championship held by FIBA Europe. The competition will be hosted by Poland from September 7 to September 20, 2009. This will be the second time the competition is held in Poland, the first time was in 1963.

Group A
Greece
Croatia
FYR Macedonia
Israel

Group B
Russia
Germany
Latvia
Qualifier

Group C
Spain
Slovenia
Serbia
Great Britain

Group D
Lithuania
Turkey
Poland
Bulgaria

FIBA Europe has approved seven venues for EuroBasket 2009.

City-------Arena----------Capacity----Competition Stage
Gdańsk ----Hala Olivia------5,000-----First phase group
Poznań ----Arena----------4,200-----First phase group
Warszawa- Torwar Hall-----4,838-----First phase group
Wrocław----Centennial Hall-6,600-----First phase group
Bydgoszcz--Łuczniczka-----8,000-----Second phase group
Łódź------- Łódź Hall------(12,000)---Second phase group
Katowice--- Spodek--------11,500----Final Phase

likasz
February 28th, 2009, 10:35 PM
Are you sure that Spodek has 13.000 seats in basketball configuration?I wouldn't be so optimistic:D.

Maniac047
February 28th, 2009, 10:39 PM
The 2009 Women's European Volleyball Championship will be the 26th edition of the European Volleyball Championship, organised by Europe's governing volleyball body, the Confédération Européenne de Volleyball. It will be hosted in Bydgoszcz, Łódź, Katowice and Wrocław in Poland, from September 25 to October 4, 2009

Group A
Poland
Netherlands
Spain
Croatia

Group B
Italy
Germany
Turkey
France

Group C
Russia
Belgium
Bulgaria
Belarus

Group D
Serbia
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Azerbaijan

Maniac047
February 28th, 2009, 10:49 PM
Damage that they will not make it in time new hall in about capacity 11 000 in gdańsk (sry for my english)

KingmanIII
March 1st, 2009, 12:19 AM
Katowice Spodek (saucer in Polish)
Built in 1971, 11500 seats
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Katowice_-_Spodek_by_night.jpg/800px-Katowice_-_Spodek_by_night.jpg

Looks like the original plans for Sprint Center in Kansas City. (perhaps Spodek inspired it?)
http://blogkc.com/images/sprintcenter2.jpg

Cracovia
March 1st, 2009, 03:28 PM
I think no town wants to have a shit stadium now. People have begun to realise the brand power in sports

Cracovia
March 1st, 2009, 03:39 PM
In next 5 years
Poland will have lots of new stadiums

Warsaw
National Stadium 55K U/C (2012)
Legia Stadium 32K U/C
Polonia stadium 15K Planned

Tricity
Baltic Arena 44K U/C (2012)
rugby stadium 3K U/C
Arka stadium 15K planned

Silesia
Chorzow Silesia Stadium 55K U/C from 01.07.09 (2012)
Gornik Zabrze stadium 30K planned
Katowice 15K planned
Bytom 15k planned
Tychy 15k planned
Bielsko Biala 15k planned
Gliwice 12K planned

Lower silesia
Wroclaw. 44K Consrtuction in 2-4weeks (2012)
Dialog Arena- 16K U/C

Others
Poznan-46K U/C (2012)
Krakow- 36K U/C (2012)
Bialystok- 25K U/C
Torun- 15k U/C
Krakow- 15.5K U/C in up to 8 weeks
Szczecin-30K planned
Lodz-35K planned
Lodz-20K planned
Odra Opole-10K planned

vid11
March 1st, 2009, 03:41 PM
I think till 2013/14 Poland will have one of the best football inf. in Europe...Many projects is now u/c | planned...

vid11
March 1st, 2009, 04:10 PM
Sad things about this event...

1. They're gonna use old hala Olivia in Gdańsk (5k) instead of new Arena in Gdynia (4,5-5 k)
2. Also Gdansk have one big Arena u/c (12,500), which suppose to be finished XII 2008...but there's 1year delay :bash: (problem with the roof)
3. Spodek (Arena in Katowice) looks terrible now, but it's under modernization atm (costs: around 100 mln = 25-30 mln euro)

New Arena in Lodz (11,500) is quite ok. And Arena in Bydgoszcz (7,000 ?) looks ok too...

Maniac047
March 1st, 2009, 04:29 PM
Cracovia you don't write stadium Zagłębia Lubin 15k - planned end build - 2009

Cracovia
March 1st, 2009, 04:46 PM
Cracovia you don't write stadium Zagłębia Lubin 15k - planned end build - 2009

I did look Dialog arena ;)

Sponsor
March 1st, 2009, 05:08 PM
Cracovia: You presented the whole list of planned stdiums aroud Poland but seriously lots of those aren't going to be completed till 2012. For example: Zabrze stadium (construction starts in 2011), Polonia stadium (for now we don't even know if there are money for it), and more which are in very initial phase of planning. In 5 years it's gonna be quite cool btw, but not as cool as you think ;)

Cracovia
March 1st, 2009, 05:18 PM
I never said they would all be comleted by 2012 5 years from now is 2014 ;) its not 2007 anymore

Sponsor
March 1st, 2009, 05:23 PM
I never said they would all be comleted by 2012 5 years from now is 2014 ;) its not 2007 anymore
I should definetely stop drinking.

Cracovia
March 1st, 2009, 05:29 PM
I should definetely stop drinking.

You probably got confused...Coz i labled the Euro 2012 arenas as "2012" so no worries, keep drinking :lol:

pibito
March 1st, 2009, 05:38 PM
I`m pessimist and I think that half with these investments will not materialize

Cracovia
March 1st, 2009, 05:41 PM
I`m pessimist and I think that half with these investments will not materialize

Its a shame coz over half are U/C ;)

Sponsor
March 1st, 2009, 05:46 PM
I`m pessimist and I think that half with these investments will not materialize

For such a country which have almost no typical football stadiums It's still good then ;)

pibito
March 1st, 2009, 08:12 PM
For such a country which have almost no typical football stadiums It's still good then ;)

I know... I stay to believe in this us

masterpaul
March 1st, 2009, 10:58 PM
I think it is meant to be cheap ;)

You can have an intersting and cheap facade.

Cracovia
March 2nd, 2009, 07:43 PM
In next 5 years
Poland will have lots of new stadiums

Warsaw
National Stadium 55K U/C (2012)
Legia Stadium 32K U/C
Polonia stadium 15K Planned

Tricity
Baltic Arena 44K U/C (2012)
rugby stadium 3K U/C
Arka stadium 15K planned

Silesia
Chorzow Silesia Stadium 55K U/C from 01.07.09 (2012)
Gornik Zabrze stadium 30K planned
Katowice 15K planned
Bytom 15k planned
Tychy 15k planned
Bielsko Biala 15k planned
Gliwice 12K planned

Lower silesia
Wroclaw. 44K Consrtuction in 2-4weeks (2012)
Dialog Arena- 16K U/C

Others
Poznan-46K U/C (2012)
Krakow- 36K U/C (2012)
Bialystok- 25K U/C
Torun- 15k U/C
Krakow- 15.5K U/C in up to 8 weeks
Szczecin-30K planned
Lodz-35K planned
Lodz-20K planned
Odra Opole-10K planned

With the stadiums i highlighted, Poland could sumbmit a bid to host the World cup as long as a 70K+ stadium was built for the final. Poznan can easily be upgraded to 50K+!! So with only one new arena and a developement in another poland could host the WC if it sumbmitted a bid. I hope they do soon.

likasz
March 2nd, 2009, 08:08 PM
^^World Cup in Poland not earlier than in 2034.Olympic Games maybe in 2020 (but it's only my wish):D

vid11
March 2nd, 2009, 08:22 PM
OG in 2020? LOL!

Cracovia
March 2nd, 2009, 08:35 PM
^^World Cup in Poland not earlier than in 2034.Olympic Games maybe in 2020 (but it's only my wish):D

by 2034 haha not worth the wait

pibito
March 2nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
These are only our dreams

Cracovia
March 2nd, 2009, 08:48 PM
without dreams, goals or objectives you cannot strive to create reality ;)

Black Label
March 3rd, 2009, 04:23 AM
^^World Cup in Poland not earlier than in 2034.Olympic Games maybe in 2020 (but it's only my wish):D

OG in 2020? LOL!

These are only our dreams

Same words, that i heard from every possible sides, before this moment:

http://blog.kievukraine.info/uploaded_images/5522-770644.jpg

Isn't it funny?

The question is... Why not?

untrue
March 4th, 2009, 02:21 PM
In next 5 years
Poland will have lots of new stadiums


Lower silesia
Wroclaw. 44K Consrtuction in 2-4weeks (2012)
Dialog Arena- 16K U/C



DIALOG Arena in Lubin

Google Maps:
http://maps.google.pl/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=pl&msa=0&msid=107647037112475304407.00046449f40ffa3ffc7ae&ll=51.413273,16.195135&spn=0.009382,0.019226&z=16

and visualizations
http://www.zaglebie-lubin.pl/www/index.php?id=klub&art=nowy_stadion

live camera
http://62.87.254.121/

PolskiNorsk
March 4th, 2009, 03:22 PM
Sorry bout misinforming you but they decided on the 15.500 version (more vip/ press places and all that shit). Any way the deadline for offers has been delayed by 10 days till March 6th. This stadium should be U/C in max 8 weeks, if all goes smoothly.

Cracovia, is that a new hockey arena in the corner of the stadium complex?

Cubo99
March 4th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Pls, can anythink give me answers about Zagłębie Lubin stadiums?
- year of start and completion Dialog Arena, is it all-seater stadium??
- is Dialog arena at the same place as GOS Stadium was be??
- when was old GOS Stadium demolished and was capacity (all/seats)had he??
sry for my bad english :D
and thx for your answers

Jasiu.
March 4th, 2009, 09:24 PM
1) They start in 2008 and end in 2009/ Yes it is all seater stadium
2) Yes.
3) Record of capacity at the old stadium was about 50,000.

michał_
March 5th, 2009, 03:08 AM
Jasiu - are you sure about the 50 000? I think when all seated (benches, not individual seats) GOs Stadium had 34 000 tops, it just was overcrowded a few times I think.

Cracovia - I think we would need an 80+ for the final, not 70+. Japan recently had problems with final venue even though they have a "perfect" 70+ in Yokohama. So they claimed they will only go through with their bid for World Cup if they get the 100+ Olympic stadium for 2016 ready.

So I think we have no chances and no point in bidding for World Cup - no Polish team will ever need an 80+ in my omain. Although I'm not visionary :no:

As for Poznan being upgraded to 50+ with ease - is this your opinion or someone actually confirmed it? Just of curiosity.

Cracovia
March 5th, 2009, 09:43 AM
As for Poznan being upgraded to 50+ with ease - is this your opinion or someone actually confirmed it? Just of curiosity.

Its my opinion...They can demolish the odd stand and bring it up to the height of the other stands. This would increase the capacity to over 50K. It will definatley happen some time in the future because the current stands has problems with water drainage and resitricted views from the corners.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/wolontariusz/stadion_lecha_poznan07.jpg

Jasiu.
March 5th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Jasiu - are you sure about the 50 000? I think when all seated (benches, not individual seats) GOs Stadium had 34 000 tops, it just was overcrowded a few times I think.


Yes you have right. GOS stadium had 34 000 capacity. But I'm write about record attendance which is 50,000. So I made small mistake in my previous post;).

bigbossman
March 5th, 2009, 07:47 PM
just a question, will polish clubs ever fill these big stadiums that are being built? Domestically i mean?? 40,000+ seems an awful lot when your league is average nearer 10,000....

kapturek
March 5th, 2009, 08:07 PM
^^ It's only because our stadiums average capacity is more-less 10k or rather it was, not so long ago.
With new, safe stadiums attendance will most likely increase. Sport level of the teams also.

slodziaq_ns
March 5th, 2009, 09:45 PM
just a question, will polish clubs ever fill these big stadiums that are being built? Domestically i mean?? 40,000+ seems an awful lot when your league is average nearer 10,000....

Simple example with situation "before and after" build new stadion in Kielce below mentioned:

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_korony_kielce/stadion_korony_kielce23.jpg

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_korony_kielce/stadion_korony_kielce30.jpg

Before building this stadion attendance came to about 4000, after on the best matches full stadium (capacity 15.500), average in ekstraklasa amounted to 8000-9000 ;) Now Korona is fighting in second league for promotion to Orange Ekstraklasa and on the most interesting match was about 13.000 people. So I suppose if Korona back to the highest polish division, also its quite high attendance will back ;)

AdrianSuvalkai
March 5th, 2009, 10:49 PM
Great photos from first training on Dialog Arena in Lubin :cheers:


http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6792/dsc00105.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6668/dsc00141.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6673/dsc00117.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7839/dsc00108.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6876/dsc00160g.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5549/dsc00159g.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/310/dsc00158q.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6215/dsc00144r.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9237/dsc00136s.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3472/dsc00130x.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/180/dsc00125i.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4161/dsc00161n.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7744/dsc00167r.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3707/dsc00171l.jpg

Cracovia
March 5th, 2009, 11:56 PM
what is ironic is that the two best stadiums will be in second division teams.

PolskiNorsk
March 6th, 2009, 12:15 AM
I just saw this in regards to Cracovia's stadium. Does this mean that we can expect a new main grandstand by next season?

http://stadiony.net/projects/stadion_cracovii/stadion_cracovii06.jpg

Cracovia
March 6th, 2009, 12:38 AM
NO...the stadium will be built in 3 phases.
Phase 1- the 4 stands
Phase 2- Finishings such as the fasade and the areas under the stands the infrastructure in and around the stadium
Phase 3- Arena....

Phase 1 and 2 are to be completed first (that is what the tender is for) by the end of 2010 so probably the first games will be in the spring round of 2011

bigbossman
March 6th, 2009, 12:39 AM
Before building this stadion attendance came to about 4000, after on the best matches full stadium (capacity 15.500), average in ekstraklasa amounted to 8000-9000 ;) Now Korona is fighting in second league for promotion to Orange Ekstraklasa and on the most interesting match was about 13.000 people. So I suppose if Korona back to the highest polish division, also its quite high attendance will back ;)

this is good, always like to see the smaller leagues growing!!

Cracovia
March 6th, 2009, 12:43 AM
this is good, always like to see the smaller leagues growing!!

yea, Korona are only there because they got degraded for corruption along with Lubin where Dialog arena is U/C

bigbossman
March 6th, 2009, 12:57 AM
^^was this anything to do with the reason why they got rid of goal difference??

vid11
March 6th, 2009, 01:29 AM
yea, Korona are only there because they got degraded for corruption along with Lubin where Dialog arena is U/C50% of ekstraklasa should be degraded! But think in 3-4 years things might change dramatically. Just like in UK. they had crappy stadiums, hooliagans etc...Poland shoud really learn from brits how to make ekstraklasa one of the best league in Europe...I think it's quite possible...

michał_
March 6th, 2009, 08:09 AM
50% of ekstraklasa should be degraded! But think in 3-4 years things might change dramatically. Just like in UK. they had crappy stadiums, hooliagans etc...Poland shoud really learn from brits how to make ekstraklasa one of the best league in Europe...I think it's quite possible...
Yeah, one exception is they were a very powerful league all the time, so sorry, but this won't happen for us in... decades (I'd say about 5 :P. And in those 5 decades all other leagues will still be developing twice faster at least)? It's not because they got rid of their problems that they became a power. Of course it helped them getting where they are (where I would never want to be).

just a question, will polish clubs ever fill these big stadiums that are being built? Domestically i mean?? 40,000+ seems an awful lot when your league is average nearer 10,000....
There were games in recent seasons which have had interest to sell 50k+ or even 100k+ by club estimates (like Lech-Legia, Wisla-Legia, Wisla-Cracovia). Plus, the Great Silesian Derby gets 40k second consecutive year even though both teams are fighting from relegation rather than any major success. Estimates by Deloitte that I've met claim we have what I would call a "bloody huge" potential to develop as a 38-million football loving nation :)

Football's image as dominated by hooligans (which of course is untrue, but the same impression media gave to Brits I guess), ticket prices and stadium condition are the major drawbacks, at least according to surveys. surprisingly not many people surveyed are worried about the appalling level of play :D

what is ironic is that the two best stadiums will be in second division teams.
What is positive is that both of them are on their best way to be ekstraklasa again starting august :)

Cracovia
March 6th, 2009, 09:42 AM
50% of ekstraklasa should be degraded! But think in 3-4 years things might change dramatically. Just like in UK. they had crappy stadiums, hooliagans etc...Poland shoud really learn from brits how to make ekstraklasa one of the best league in Europe...I think it's quite possible...

definatley not. If any thing we should follow the model of the bundesliga. They still have real fans, which are a minority now in the Premier league. They have no real fans in most clubs in Britain just picnic people. I mean recently middlesbrough complained their fans where beeing to noisy and that they should not stand. I've been to see Fulham and Chelsea live and all I can say is the atmosphere is crap. The chants are crap (come on... or theres only one... or are you... in disguise) thats about it. Though the quality and pace of the football is great and so is the stadiums


http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Middlesbrough_tell_their_own_fans_to_keep_the_noise_down&in_article_id=551934&in_page_id=43

Would you prefer
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2353/2454873213_95bf6c9c96.jpg
^^picnic
or
http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/files/2007/09/1393331090_31feb1547d.jpg

^^real fans

michal_OMB
March 7th, 2009, 11:13 PM
new photo :D

Łódź

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/6310/z6310817X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/6144/z6144156X.jpg

Gdańsk/Sopot

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/jarmul/IMG_3585.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/jarmul/IMG_3586.jpg

bigbossman
March 8th, 2009, 08:31 AM
There were games in recent seasons which have had interest to sell 50k+ or even 100k+ by club estimates (like Lech-Legia, Wisla-Legia, Wisla-Cracovia). Plus, the Great Silesian Derby gets 40k second consecutive year even though both teams are fighting from relegation rather than any major success. Estimates by Deloitte that I've met claim we have what I would call a "bloody huge" potential to develop as a 38-million football loving nation :)

For me thats a great thing to hear. if you can fill your stadiums, then you can begin to generate the revenue which will keep the best players in the league and attract good players from smaller leagues and push on to compete.

Football's image as dominated by hooligans (which of course is untrue, but the same impression media gave to Brits I guess), ticket prices and stadium condition are the major drawbacks, at least according to surveys. surprisingly not many people surveyed are worried about the appalling level of play :D



Yeah, scare tactics fromt he media.

if bad play were a factor in fans watching a team, most teams in the world would have no fans :lol:

bigbossman
March 8th, 2009, 08:36 AM
definatley not. If any thing we should follow the model of the bundesliga. They still have real fans, which are a minority now in the Premier league. They have no real fans in most clubs in Britain just picnic people. I mean recently middlesbrough complained their fans where beeing to noisy and that they should not stand. I've been to see Fulham and Chelsea live and all I can say is the atmosphere is crap. The chants are crap (come on... or theres only one... or are you... in disguise) thats about it. Though the quality and pace of the football is great and so is the stadiums


http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?Middlesbrough_tell_their_own_fans_to_keep_the_noise_down&in_article_id=551934&in_page_id=43

Would you prefer
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2353/2454873213_95bf6c9c96.jpg
^^picnic
or
http://bundesliga.theoffside.com/files/2007/09/1393331090_31feb1547d.jpg

^^real fans

Agree totally, but you have to understand why English grounds are like that.

Standing/terracing being banned was a short term fix to a problem that was going away anyway. It was made a scapegoat. Demand increased as stadium capacities increased so ticket prices went up, it's funny that clubs (in the early 90s) rejected recommendations that they were only allowed to raise ticket prices by inflation.

Fans want standing back but the law are scared it would bring back hooligans which is dumb.

I don't think it will happen like that in Poland it seems fans are more powerful than they were in england. Unless all of a sudden you get a load of rich fans that can replace the normal fans that don't go anymore like england.

woozoo
March 8th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Lots and lots of beautiful stadiums. And a great thread with lots of detail and quality photos.
Good work guys :okay:.

I gotta ask, where is the money for these stadiums coming from? And why the sudden push for SO many stadiums.
I understand Euro 2012 is coming up, but along with the stadiums built for the tournament, there are a lot of stadiums being built which will not be used for that purpose.

Cracovia
March 8th, 2009, 03:01 PM
money mostly comes from Municipal funding. With some EU and private investment as well. The push is due to a near complete stagnation in sporting infrastructure investment over the past 20 odd years which lead to the conditions in Polish stadia beeing appauling. Now with new licencing and saftey laws the stadia have to be improved in order for clubs to be entered into leagues.

Also Polish clubs are becoming more and more comercialsed and the Polish economy has done very well over the past 10 years or so especially recently leading to an increase in the amount of spare capital avaliable on every level. From the individual to big cooperations and government

michal_OMB
March 8th, 2009, 08:04 PM
Stadium in Kozienice, small city is close Warsaw

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_kozienice/stadion_kozienice01.jpg

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_kozienice/stadion_kozienice02.jpg

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_kozienice/stadion_kozienice04.jpg

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_kozienice/stadion_kozienice08.jpg

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_kozienice/stadion_kozienice09.jpg

http://stadiony.net/pictures/pol/stadion_kozienice/stadion_kozienice10.jpg

vid11
March 8th, 2009, 08:09 PM
Nice engrish :bash:

Tygrys
March 8th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Nice engrish :bash:

And you are not nice too...as usual, krzysiu... :ohno:

woozoo
March 9th, 2009, 08:04 AM
Sweet thanks cracovia.

AdrianSuvalkai
March 12th, 2009, 02:00 AM
Photos from speedway stadium in Toruń

http://foto.sportowefakty.pl/galeria/2550/01.jpg

http://foto.sportowefakty.pl/galeria/2550/06.jpg

http://foto.sportowefakty.pl/galeria/2550/10.jpg

http://foto.sportowefakty.pl/galeria/2550/07.jpg

more: http://foto.sportowefakty.pl/index.php?k=2&p=4&g=2550

Cracovia
March 12th, 2009, 10:56 AM
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/956/pan2wd1.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3052/pan1minxv2.jpg
^^Thanks to pan_tomas


I jeszcze fotki z artykulu GW, ktory zacytowal pan_tomas:
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/6310/z6310820X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/6310/z6310819X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/6310/z6310818X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/6310/z6310817X.jpg

Sponsor
March 15th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Zagłębie Lubin stadium - 16k (already about 10k)

3 of 4 stands already completed.

by RadeX20
http://i42.tinypic.com/2j4omra.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/1z1sjue.jpg

by Urtanator
http://i44.tinypic.com/znu59g.jpg

from www.lubin.pl site
http://www.lubin.pl/xinha/plugins/ImageManager/demo_images/marzec/IMG_5204.JPG
http://www.lubin.pl/xinha/plugins/ImageManager/demo_images/marzec/IMG_5197.JPG

michal_OMB
March 15th, 2009, 11:23 PM
beautiful :D

sądeczanin_pol
March 16th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Dialog Arena - opening match - video ;) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcd5mTSdRSU&feature=channel_page)

PL2012
March 21st, 2009, 05:09 AM
updates???

rakim
March 21st, 2009, 09:55 AM
Speedway Stadium in Toruń:

http://www.torun.pl/img_upload/zuzel_bud_19-03-2009_15d.jpg

http://www.torun.pl/img_upload/zuzel_bud_19-03-2009_10d.jpg

http://www.torun.pl/img_upload/zuzel_bud_19-03-2009_8d.jpg

PL2012
March 21st, 2009, 07:47 PM
Stadium in Tourn is going up FAST!!

ufonut
March 25th, 2009, 05:00 AM
New cycling arena in Pruszkow near Warsaw.

http://www.bgzarena.com/files/11111/img_0010.jpg

http://www.bgzarena.com/files/11111/img_0025.jpg

http://www.bgzarena.com/files/11111/2tor_1.jpg

Cracovia
March 25th, 2009, 10:56 AM
World track cycling championships start there tomorrow ;) under Warsaw though as it is practicaly a Warsaw suburb.
http://track-pruszkow2009.com/

michal_OMB
March 26th, 2009, 10:50 AM
Arena is a very nice :)

Cracovia
March 28th, 2009, 06:32 PM
New 15K football stadium proposed for Gorzow Wielkopolski



http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/filemanager/14.jpg
http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/filemanager/01.jpg
http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/filemanager/04.jpg
http://www.11.pl/_pliki_/filemanager/11.jpg

Jim856796
March 28th, 2009, 08:41 PM
I keep telling you that the renderings of Lodz's new arena depict the new arena having a cycling track around the playing area. In the construction photos, it looks like it does not have a track.

likasz
March 28th, 2009, 10:34 PM
not a cycling track but an athletic track that will be added later
Cycling track we have in Pruszków:D

PL2012
March 29th, 2009, 02:20 AM
Looks nice when is it going to be U/C

nautica17
March 30th, 2009, 06:31 AM
^^
Looks very similar to the stadium in Lubin. Although Gorzów is only I Liga for now and close to relegation. :(

Sponsor
March 30th, 2009, 03:49 PM
Toruń, speedway stadium - 15k.

Kilka świeżych fotek z nowego stadionu :)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3706/img6967.jpg (http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6967.jpg)
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/img6967.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img240/img6967.jpg/1/)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8918/img6965c.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6965c.jpg)
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/img6965c.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img440/img6965c.jpg/1/)

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3643/img6966.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6966.jpg)
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/img6966.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img244/img6966.jpg/1/)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8387/img6968.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6968.jpg)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/img6968.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img515/img6968.jpg/1/)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4307/img6987.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6987.jpg)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/img6987.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img147/img6987.jpg/1/)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7439/img7023n.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img7023n.jpg)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/img7023n.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img6/img7023n.jpg/1/)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6136/img7038.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img7038.jpg)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/img7038.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img144/img7038.jpg/1/)

ufonut
April 1st, 2009, 06:16 AM
Speedway from above

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4449/getimg2r.jpg

Dzwonsson
April 1st, 2009, 08:19 PM
^^ On this capture this stadium looks like arena with capacity reaching 40 000 at least! There is only one term I can use talking about that what's shown above... Awesome! What a shame football games won't be organised there. :(

nautica17
April 2nd, 2009, 12:14 AM
^^ It will look even nicer when they plant some trees and put some grass around the stadium. Good-job Toruń! :D

AdrianSuvalkai
April 3rd, 2009, 05:45 PM
Nice photos from speedway stadium in Toruń
wow:D

http://www.torun.pl/img_upload/zuzel_bud_28-03_2-04-09_4d.jpg

http://www.torun.pl/img_upload/zuzel_bud_28-03_2-04-09_3d.jpg

http://www.torun.pl/img_upload/zuzel_bud_28-03_2-04-09_5d.jpg

Athinaios
April 4th, 2009, 12:06 AM
OMG I haven't heard about this stadium earlier...:runaway:
But I have to say IT IS AWESOME!!! :cheers: Good to see all seats covered by good looking roof. Very good work!

ensarsever
April 4th, 2009, 03:26 AM
great :)

nautica17
April 4th, 2009, 11:23 PM
del

sorry.

AdrianSuvalkai
April 4th, 2009, 11:29 PM
^^ nautica17 It's thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=716988&page=5) about this stadium ;)

Cracovia
April 5th, 2009, 01:31 AM
edit

Cracovia
April 9th, 2009, 02:44 AM
Construction of new 5.5K arena in Plock has begun today :banana::banana::banana:

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1104/halap.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5448/budowa.jpg

Construction of 1.3K arena (sports hall) in Bytom

http://images33.fotosik.pl/31/9a4f9e50cece296b.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2598/31506123.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31506123.jpg)
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1075/55948243.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=55948243.jpg)

Newish photos from Gdansk Arena

http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_1529549db109dcca44.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize
http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_954649db10ad6c97c.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize
http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_1002149db117f61d57.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize

New stadium for Gdynia (15K?) tender was launched today for constructor, should be U.C within 2 monthes

http://www.arka.gdynia.pl/images_uploaded/n/1196180851_2_1419500392.jpg
http://www.arka.gdynia.pl/images_uploaded/n/1196180862_2_162404973.jpg
http://www.arka.gdynia.pl/images_uploaded/n/1196180868_2_796789927.jpg
http://www.arka.gdynia.pl/images_uploaded/n/1196180841_2_607007656.jpg
:bash::bash::bash: looks shit in my opinion

Bogus Law
April 9th, 2009, 01:32 PM
^^
yeah, :ohno: I don't like these stalks supporting the roof that would probably affect visibility for a couple of seats in the last rows. and the floodlights on the masts, either

the rendering shows a screen in one of corners outside - I hope they will put at least one in the inside as well :)

it's good to see there's gonna be another new stadium in PL, though

RaHo
April 10th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Last picture shows "very preaty" sector for guests (fence).

And yeah... whole stadium looks poor to me.

Cracovia
April 10th, 2009, 07:37 PM
lets hope its just a case of shit renders

Maximus1962
April 13th, 2009, 11:36 AM
The screen outside... Hmm, pointless unless they expect full capacity on every game ane more people wanting to watch the game, just outside the ground...

Roof support is pointless! Nobody does this anymore! Needs to be changed! And well, one thing I'm sure will be different is the colour of the seats ;)

P.S. Visitors sector fence might not be that bad if they would actually make it with glass like it is on the render...

amidcars
April 13th, 2009, 02:34 PM
Did anyone see what HOK's bid for the national look like? Are there any renders?

masterpaul
April 14th, 2009, 07:27 PM
I think it was a big bubble

mphws
April 18th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Toruń - old vs new speedway stadium:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9595/stary02.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/76/nowy1f.jpg

(pics from http://www.sportsboard.pl/Forum/viewthread.php?FID=3&TID=29101&pagenumber=58)

TotaS
April 27th, 2009, 12:56 PM
Could somebody post new photos of arenas? :]

Big Cat
April 27th, 2009, 02:01 PM
I am totally confused. Can someone clarify how many arenas will be build a new and how many renovated? :)

likasz
April 27th, 2009, 02:30 PM
EUROBASKET 2009 VENUES:

Wroclaw - Centennial hall - capacity: 7k
Katowice - Spodek - capacity 12k
Lodz - New Arena - capacity 12-13k
Warsaw - Torwar - capacity 5k
Bydgoszcz - Łuczniczka - capacity: 6k
Gdansk - Olivia hall - capacity: 5,5k
Poznań - Arena - capacity : 5k

Only Arena in Lodz is a new construction.There were plans to host Eurobasket in New Arena in Gdansk - Sopot but it will be not ready in September because of problem with the roof construction.

Big Cat
April 27th, 2009, 02:43 PM
Ok, thanks :) When Gdansk arena is planned to be finished? Are some of the old arenas to be renovated?

likasz
April 27th, 2009, 03:38 PM
1.In December 2009 - it will home arena for Prokom Sopot which you probably know from Euroleague.

2.Yes, in Wroclaw and Gdansk.Torwar Arena in Warsaw look quite good and it was a venue of Ice Skating Euro Champioship a few years ago:D

We are going to build many big arenas to 2014 (Poland is a host of Volleyball's World Championship in 2014).I know about arenas in Cracow (15k), Gliwice (15k),Warsaw (18-20k) and smaller in Częstochowa (6k), Toruń (8k) and Zielona Góra (5-6k).

Torwar:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Hala_Torwar_Beax.JPG

Big Cat
April 27th, 2009, 04:06 PM
1.In December 2009 - it will home arena for Prokom Sopot which you probably know from Euroleague

The best Polish basketball team! Of course, I know it, a coach is Lithuanian - Tomas Pačėsas :D

http://foto.sportowefakty.pl/galeria/2485/20090218JM_012.jpg


We are going to build many big arenas to 2014 (Poland is a host of Volleyball's World Championship in 2014).I know about arenas in Cracow (15k), Gliwice (15k),Warsaw (18-20k) and smaller in Częstochowa (6k), Toruń (8k) and Zielona Góra (5-6k).

Wow, not to much? Eurobasket2009, Euro2012 and now Volleyball's World Championship in 2014 :) Anyway, hope I will manage to come to Poland this summer, at least for one match. How a selling of the tickets is going?

likasz
April 27th, 2009, 04:49 PM
tickets:http://www.eventim.pl/tickets/en/sport/basketball_tennis/1061/

I heard about 6000 orderings for Lithuania's group matches so you have to be very lucky to buy a ticket:D

likasz
April 27th, 2009, 09:42 PM
Mieszko the Wisent is official mascot of the tournament
http://eurobasket09.pl/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/mieszko_img_4053.jpeg

DocentX
April 27th, 2009, 10:31 PM
New arena in Lodz - alomst finished :cheers:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_l5utBSEIEF0/SejScm7aCGI/AAAAAAAAEjY/Z2DlPTSOB5I/s640/pano.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7507/82103499.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2369/panoresize.jpg

http://img.naszemiasto.pl/grafika2/nowy/35/40_991041_1_d_4643.jpg

New arena in Gdansk under construction (unfortunately it won't be ready for EuroBasket :bash: )

http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_1757249db10a5a2983.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize

http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_885849db10de11a53.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize

http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_2091649db119b26795.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize

http://www.halagdansk.sopot.pl/gallery_thumbnail.php?i=gallery_954649db10ad6c97c.jpg&type=gallery_fullsize

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg239/jarmul/IMG_4420.jpg

Livno80101
April 27th, 2009, 10:45 PM
[QUOTE=DocentX;35831640]New arena in Lodz - alomst finished :cheers:

New arena in Gdansk under construction (unfortunately it won't be ready for EuroBasket :bash: )

oh my God, I am really sorry it wont be finished till EuroBasket, it looks great and its shame that wont be finished :ohno:

Big Cat
April 27th, 2009, 11:05 PM
tickets:http://www.eventim.pl/tickets/en/sport/basketball_tennis/1061/

I heard about 6000 orderings for Lithuania's group matches so you have to be very lucky to buy a ticket:D

Thanks for the site. I was searching for something like that :) Do you know any article in Poland about the progress of tickets selling? In Polish - is ok ;)

oh my God, I am really sorry it wont be finished till EuroBasket, it looks great and its shame that wont be finished :ohno:

Really, very sad :(

likasz
April 27th, 2009, 11:39 PM
14,000 tickets have been sold in the first day of selling:D

yakubo
April 27th, 2009, 11:44 PM
The mascot of Eurobasket 2009 Poland will be...
http://doc.rmf.pl/media/img/154/154976_n_mi_big.jpg
Bison Mieszko :)

And maybe not everyone has seen the official trailer of EB 2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOIek1eot0s

likasz
April 28th, 2009, 12:25 AM
^^It is not a BISON!It' a WISENT!

moriarty
April 28th, 2009, 02:34 AM
it is really pity and also interesting that krakow won't be hosting for the organization. I spent 2 years in this beautiful city for education and in my opinion Krakow could have been good for Eurobasket especially with its touristic background. (although Balice Airport would have been needed to renovation)