Are you ready for high-end shopping Greenville? Before you read anything below, please read this article first to understand what is going on with this development:
http://www.magnoliapark.com/news/index.php?rnw:e=4&rnw:id=3

A landmark destination-
Magnolia Park Town Center, formerly the Greenville Mall, is currently being transitioned from an enclosed mall to a 676,000 square foot, open-air shopping center that will include offices and a hotel. Current tenants include Sports Authority and Regal Cinemas, with an additional contract finalized to construct a Rooms to Go. It is designed from the ground up to be a lifestyle center and community gathering place. The high-profile site will serve as a major landmark destination for the entire region. The buildings and spaces of Magnolia Park will reflect the simple and refined traditions of the region while illustrating the light contemporary lifestyle that makes Greenville a much-coveted destination for achieving a high quality of life. Magnolia Park's refreshing approach to urban living includes plenty of options for shopping, dining, work and play with upscale amenities and conveniences - the perfect place to relax with friends, spend time with family or enjoy some leisure time. Magnolia Park will flourish with a distinct blend of specialty retail, upscale dining, state-of-the-art offices, and world-class hospitality, all in one pedestrian-oriented lifestyle village.

Please ignore ALL site plans you see on websites posted, except for this one. They are old and out-dated. This is the only one that is new and valid (Page 2): http://www.theshoppingcentergroup.com/DSN/wwwtheshoppingcentergroupcom/Commerce/ProductImages/pf000415.pdf The grey you see on the site plan are parking garages. There will be three of them in all.

Official website: http://www.magnoliapark.com/

Other information: http://www.menindevelopment.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=properties.siteplan&property_id=16&x=7031623

Already built:
Regal cinemas Hollywood 20-largest and highest grossing theater in the state/20 screens.
Sports Authority-store will move to location next to Costco.

Under Construction:
Costco-scheduled to open in the next month or two.

Announced:
Rooms To Go

Proposed(P) or rumored(R) retailers/restaurants so far. This list will change due to new developer:
Border's Bookstore-P
Urban Outfitters-R
Apple Store-R (Probably going to Haywood Mall)
Z Gallerie-R
Sur La Table-R
Anthropologie-R
Petco-P
DSW shoe store-P
Michael's-P
Lifestyle Fitness-P
Cheesecake Factory-P
Ruth's Chris and/or Maggianos-P
Starbuck's-P
Chipotle-P
REI-P
Five Guys-P
Ben and Jerry's and/or Maggie Moos-P
Aloft, Element, Hyatt Place, or Springhill Suites hotel-P
David's Bridal-P
FedEx-Kinkos-P
Camilles Cafe-P
Bravo and/or Biaggis-P

g-man, thanks for the information on this large project. By the way, I liked that night shot of the skyline in the project's website. Also, I checked out the demographics information in the 2nd page of the PDF you suggested and it seems that there is a large customer base around that area with a healthy income.

Centrally located between Atlanta and Charlotte, Greenville is one of the most rapidly growing areas in the country and the fastest in the state. Nestled in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains, Greenville is the heart and the economic engine of the Upstate which includes Greenville, Spartanburg, Anderson, Pickens and Cherokee counties and the cities of Anderson, Clemson, Greenville, Simpsonville, Greer and Spartanburg.

Don't let other South Carolinians see that... :lol:

Aloft by W? Yes, please:

Jacob,



KC Kavanagh forwarded your inquiry to me and the address is aloft Greenville Airport; 4341 Parkway East at the Parkway



The site is actually at the Greenville Mall which is very close to the TBB I-Car Research Center which will generate both domestic and international automotive related business travelers.



Please let me know if you require any further information.



Thank you,

Aloft by W is going next to the Michelin North American headquarters and near Marriott, not Magnolia Park Town Center.

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:D Costco is almost finished:

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I wonder how many cities have three wholesale clubs (Costco, Sam's, and BJ's) within a mile of one another on the same road like Greenville does? Not many, probably! :lol:

The question is, will one of the three go under or move to another location as a result? Two have existed just fine, but I am not so sure about having all three right there. If one would move to another area of the city (e.g., Cherrydale, Laurens Road, Pleasantburg Drive) they would probably do quite well. Especially Cherrydale.

You did not get this from me: http://www.greatergreenville.com/city_government/PlanningApplications/applications/2007/August/PlanningCommission/8-09-2007/Z-19-2007-FDP-SportsAuthority.pdf

We have a Costco, a Sam's Club and a BJ's within close proximity to each other. It is ridiculous, but convenient for most people. g-man, did you get your avatar from Costco? :lol:

We have a Costco, a Sam's Club and a BJ's within close proximity to each other. It is ridiculous, but convenient for most people. g-man, did you get your avatar from Costco? :lol:

Are you serious, because ours are within two miles of each other on the same road? I'm guessing they do that on purpose for competition and stuff. :nuts: Did your penguin throw up my fish, Raleigh-NC? :lol:

Site of future Sports Authority (Just beyond new pavement):
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Trees starting to go in on site:
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:D
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A couple new rumored retailers/restaurants that could be heading here:

Brooks Brothers
IKEA (Just kidding)
Crate and Barrel
Saks Fifth Avenue
Tommy Bahama
Tumi
Bob Ellis (no, not the Pinnacle on Main developer)
The Grape
Haagen-Dazs

Somebody hook up a brother with some comments. Got my membership for Costco today. Grand opening is at 8AM on 8-16, which is actually today:
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I'll hook you up with a comment: "Screw the freakin' sprawling developments." I have noticed lately that you are slowly becoming a suburbanite. What's next, a vacation at Home Depot? :lol:

^^Well, I would take pics of downtown projects that aren't sprawl, but they're all stalled. :(

I feel your pain. Don't get discouraged about the stalling of projects, though. Most of them will eventually be delivered. No developer spends a sh*tload of money for a piece of land that will sit there for too long. As for the photos, I am sure Greenville is still the photogenic city we see every now and then. I am sure you can go out there and take some photos of the actual city, especially downtown ;) Take that fish of yours for some fresh air and take a few photos while you are out there :lol:

A couple new rumored retailers/restaurants that could be heading here:

Brooks Brothers
IKEA (Just kidding)
Crate and Barrel
Saks Fifth Avenue
Tommy Bahama
Tumi
Bob Ellis (no, not the Pinnacle on Main developer)
The Grape
Haagen-Dazs


Whoo hoo!...Crate and Barrel? Good! :banana: I've gotten tired of driving all the way up to Charlotte for my furniture.

^^It's only a rumor. :lol: Raleigh-NC, it's too hot outside for my fish and even your penguin. They'll just die out there I tell you. :(

Story on MPTC: http://www.wyff4.com/news/13913637/detail.html

Shopping Area At Former Mall Site Takes Shape

POSTED: 6:47 am EDT August 17, 2007

GREENVILLE, S.C. -- It's out with the old on Woodruff Road near Roper Mountain Road and Interstate 385 and now the new is taking shape.

With most of the old Greenville Mall demolished, 80 acres in the busy shopping district are wide open for new retail space.

A Costco warehouse is the first new business to open in the Magnolia Park Town Center.

The retailer’s grand opening was Thursday morning.

Hundreds of customers showed up to check out the prices and membership fees which range from about $50 - $100 per year.

Marketing manager Lisa Lanz said that about half the store’s staff moved to the Upstate from other stores, including some from Miami.

"We try to keep the prices as low as low as possible and we don't make a whole lot of money off of the product itself which is why we do charge a membership," Lanz said.

Business owners in the area have been waiting for new upscale businesses to move in.

By the end of 2008, the Florida-based developer plans to have a new hotel, retail shops, restaurants and office space in the New Magnolia Park Town Center.

Guess we'll have to wait for nicer weather. It will be a challenge for me to take the freshest photos I could possibly take with this kind of weather. I will be on training, at an off-site location, during the entire last week of August, so I have between this weekend and the next one to take some construction update photos. Too hot, brother, too freakin' hot :(

Guess we'll have to wait for nicer weather. It will be a challenge for me to take the freshest photos I could possibly take with this kind of weather. I will be on training, at an off-site location, during the entire last week of August, so I have between this weekend and the next one to take some construction update photos. Too hot, brother, too freakin' hot :(

Well, I took some earlier today and my fish survived, so I don't see why your penguin wouldn't. And where is Kermit? :lol:

http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070823/BUSINESS/708230309

Developer says stores interested in project
Magnolia Park negotiating '40 to 50' lease letters of intent

Published: Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 2:00 am
Updated: Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 6:17 am

By Rudolph Bell
BUSINESS WRITER
dmbell@greenvillenews.com

The new owners of the former Greenville Mall say numerous retailers are interested in opening stores at the new shopping center they plan on the high-profile property between Woodruff Road and Interstate 385.

Marc T. Yavinsky, executive vice president with Menin Development Cos. Inc. of Palm Beach Gardens, Fla., which bought the former mall property in March, said Wednesday that his company is negotiating 40 to 50 letters of intent with retailers interested in the new development, called Magnolia Park Town Center.

Yavinsky said the tenants are considering stores ranging in size from 2,000 square feet to 40,000 or 50,000 square feet and that many of them would be new to the Greenville market. None has signed a lease, he said.

Yavinsky declined to name any of the potential tenants or say when any might announce a presence at Magnolia Park.

He said two hotels -- up to 350 rooms together -- could be among the businesses on the site eventually. He said Menin is investigating how much office space is appropriate for Magnolia Park.

Menin has hired Development Design Group Inc. to design the project.

The Baltimore designers portfolio includes the Atlantic Station mixed-use development in Atlanta, according to its Web site.

Menin has previously said that Magnolia Park would be similar in concept to Downtown at the Gardens, which it developed in Palm Beach Gardens.

Retailers at Downtown at the Gardens include a 16-screen theater, Whole Foods Market, The Cheesecake Factory, Urban Outfitters, Z Gallerie, Yard House, Smith & Hawken and Sur la Table.

So far at Magnolia Park the retailers are Regal Cinemas and The Sports Authority, which were tenants at Greenville Mall.

Also, Costco Wholesale Corp. recently opened a store on about 15 acres of the former mall property that it bought from Canyon Gulfside Greenville LLC, which owned the property before Menin.

This is for the people on UP. The trailer that is missing at the MPTC site was just simply moved across Woodruff Road next to that two lane road where the Microtel Inn is at. When I drove by this site a month or two before Costco opened, I would always see John Deere Gators and bulldozers going from the trailer to the site and vise versa.

Expect construction to start on Sports Authority within the next 2-3 months. Completion date for entire development has been moved up from mid-2009 to late 2008.
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Thanks for the info. A lot will have to happen if it is going to be complete by next fall!

^^Exactly, which is a very good thing. Come on UP'ers. Get off your asses and go take some pics. :)

Is that going to be a big parking deck in the top right corner on that last picture? It has the big "P" on it.

^^If you're talking about behind and to the left of Hollywood 20 then yes. If you're talking about to the right of Hollywood 20 in front of the hotel then no. There are going to be 3 parking decks and each one will have 3 levels. The dark gray shaded areas are the decks.

It has now been said that Apple is no longer coming to Haywood Mall due to lack of space available. The mall is pretty much filled to capacity currently, which isn't a bad thing. :) Gsupstate said recently that he went to a meeting and looked at the plans for the Apple Store. He is involved with MPTC and has been to meetings for that development before, but never Haywood Mall. He also said it would open in late 2008. That is the same time MPTC is scheduled for completion. See where this is going? ;)

g-man, I think your future career should be something along the lines of detective or PI. You do put clues together well! :)

^^Oh, yes I do. I knew Apple would be coming here. I just knew it. :D I actually plan on going into building/landscape architecture or urban planning at Clemson as soon as I get enough credits from Tri-County Tech to transfer. :)

:D Apple store for MPTC: http://www.ifoapplestore.com/2007/08/29/apple-switches-greenville-locations/

I like this layout much more than the initial design. This is more pedestrian friendly and should prove more sustainable in the long term.

^^I agree. Seems to have a lot more urban feel to it than the previous plan. :)

:)
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Gander Mountain is currently in lease negotiations to become the large anchor tenant of 53,900 square feet at Magnolia Park Town Center. Thanks gsupstate. ;)

I wonder if this means that REI will locate elsewhere, perhaps in The Point? I hope we will eventually have both stores in town.

I wonder if this means that REI will locate elsewhere, perhaps in The Point? I hope we will eventually have both stores in town.

REI would be perfect for the Main at Washington development downtown, along with a Borders...

REI would be perfect for the Main at Washington development downtown, along with a Borders...

If that development ever gets off the ground. Borders is going to MPTC, while REI will probably go to the Point. REI was one of the tenants McChesney said it would like to see at their development.

Gander Mountain is currently in lease negotiations to become the large anchor tenant of 53,900 square feet at Magnolia Park Town Center. Thanks gsupstate. ;)

Hey g-man....my post on UP simply said Gander Mountain was looking at Greenville for a location East / Southeast of the city. I never gave a location, I can't at the moment......you're adding words in my mouth man. :lol:

^^You can't hide it anymore gsupstate. I know where you're talking about. It's so obvious. :D Mauinix is looking to open a store at this development in late 2008. http://www.mauinix.com/mauinix/

Oh, i'm ready for it. Come on bring it:
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Oh, i'm ready for it. Come on bring it:
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Does this rendering reveal any new info? I'm ready to know which tenants are definitely going to be a part of Magnolia Park.

Does this rendering reveal any new info? I'm ready to know which tenants are definitely going to be a part of Magnolia Park.

Nope. The tenant list will not be released until mid-2008.

:D
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You love those sprawling sopping centers, don't you? :lol:

^^Actually, this shopping center won't be sprawl. It will include parking garages and will be located in an area that is becoming very urban.

Just pulling your leg, g-man :poke:

^^You are? How come I don't feel it then? :lol:

Maybe your beside yourself.

;) Where does g-man get this stuff from:

One project will breathe new life into a once-ignored area of Greenville. The former Greenville Mall is the site of the future Magnolia Park, by Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.-based Menin Development. Menin plans to build a town center that will be one of the largest retail centers in South Carolina, with approximately 500,000 square feet of retail, set to open in 2009. The project will be located near Clemson University’s International Center for Automotive Research. The city holds great promise, says Marc Yavinsky, president of Menin, which bought the property in March. “There’s pent-up demand for retail in the city,” he said. “It’s a very affluent community, and retailers will come.”

First rendering released by Menin:
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That is tiny rendering!!! Damn it, Menin Development, can't you release something of higher resolution? :bash:

That is tiny rendering!!! Damn it, Menin Development, can't you release something of higher resolution? :bash:

The rendering I got was larger, but photobucket freakin shrinked it. :bash:

The yellow building in the background of the rendering is Hollywood 20 Regal Cinemas. The fountain on the left is the fountain on the far right side in front of Hollywood 20 seen on this site plan: http://www.theshoppingcentergroup.com/DSN/wwwtheshoppingcentergroupcom/Commerce/ProductImages/pf000630.pdf If you want a bigger pic of the rendering, PM me your email address and i'll send it to you.

I know that renderings are very conceptual and not all should be counted on in the final design or product, but palm trees in Greenville??? Come on people! We have a few, but I'd rather have trees with more substance. We're not Columbia, Myrtle Beach, or Charleston.

^^That's the same thing I said when I first saw the rendering. I doubt you will see palm trees put in this development though. They probably just stuck them in the rendering to make it resemble Downtown at the Gardens.

Maybe this thing will start construction before I die. :bash: :bleep: :rant: :fart: :down: :mad2: :wallbash: :mad:

Hmmm! Maybe, but try not to sacrifice yourself in order to see this project getting started.

^^:hug:
:llama: Everybody PM and bug gsupstate. He knows when construction is going to start on this. :llama:

^^:hug:
:llama: Everybody PM and bug gsupstate. He knows when construction is going to start on this. :llama:

Probably about the same time the POM starts! :hahaha::rofl:

^^He said soon. :lol: How long is soon? Probably 10 years. :rofl:

Completion for Rooms to Go is now set for fall of 2008 along with some of the shops. The majority of the center will open in fall of 2009. The area around Sports Authority has been changed again. It will include less surface parking between RTG and Sports Authority with Sports Authority having a corner entrance instead of a plain front entrance and a store on the front left side. You can see the new site plan on page 2 of this document: http://www.theshoppingcentergroup.com/DSN/wwwtheshoppingcentergroupcom/Commerce/ProductImages/pf000630.pdf This is what the site around Sports Authority was originally going to look like:
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Z Gallerie, Cheesecake Factory, Apple, and Dolce Group (not sure which one of their restaurants though) are all in lease negotiations to be part of MPTC.

I was not familiar with the Dolce Group, so I looked at their website:

http://www.dolcegroup.com/

I wonder which of their restaurants will be part of Magnolia Park? Anyone have any familiarity with their restaurants and have any input? Dolce Enoteca e Ristorante has locations in Los Angeles, Atlanta (Atlantic Station), and Reno, with one coming soon in Huntsville, AL. Bella Cucina Italiana looks interesting, but the only location is in Los Angeles so I don't know if they are planning on expanding that restaurant to other parts of the country. Besides, if we're having a nicer Italian restaurant in Magnolia Park, I would prefer to see Maggiano's Little Italy. :)

^^Maggiano's and Bravo! Cucina Italiana will most likely be there seeing how that was on the original site plan. This development will be like nothing you have ever seen before probably. It will literally blow your mind away.

Menin Development Companies, Inc. Joins Forces with The McGarey Group, Inc.

PALM BEACH GARDENS, FLORIDA.—November 26, 2007— Today, Menin Development Companies, Inc. is pleased to announce it has signed The McGarey Group to be the Exclusive Retail Consultant for Magnolia Park, an approximately 1 million square-foot mixed-use development strategically located at the intersection of I-85, I-385 and Woodruff Road in Greenville, South Carolina.

“We have made the decision to align our development interests in Magnolia Park with The McGarey Group, as further demonstration of our plan to develop the dominant, vibrant town center for the Greenville community,” says Craig I. Menin, President of Menin Development. “The McGarey Group has played a central role in the planning, leasing and marketing of broad shouldered projects like Atlantic Station in Midtown Atlanta and Gallery Place in Downtown Washington, DC., and they have a demonstrated passion for following the mission of their clients and acting aggressively to realize the vision of a project and the people it serves. They think like Menin Development and will deliver the results we are seeking.”

"We are pleased to have an opportunity to work with Craig Menin and the Menin Development team, having admired their many past accomplishments and commitment to excellence in their work,” says The McGarey Group’s President, F. Denver McGarey. “Magnolia Park represents a project with a critical mass of sophistication, that finds itself in one of the true growth cites of the South which is most deserving and capable of supporting the Project. We are honored to be aligned with Menin Development and the first-class team they have assembled to execute on Magnolia Park"

The company’s principals, F. Denver McGarey and Chris Jennings McGarey, take pride in their strong ties to the South, not only by family, but also in maintaining their Atlanta, Georgia office, headed by National Leasing Director, Tracy E. Lojek.

"After successful execution of the epic Atlantic Station Development in Midtown Atlanta, we are pleased Menin Development has selected The McGarey Group for a return to the South and our wealth of contacts for the leasing and marketing of Magnolia Park,” says Tracy E. Lojek. “This Project will help define the emergence of the greater Greenville area as a true force in the Southeastern United States."

A nationally recognized leader in the comprehensive planning, development and leasing of preeminent urban retail projects both nationally and internationally, The McGarey Group brings together the talents and unmatched experience of an influential network of professionals, responsible for a variety of landmark developments that have served as catalysts for economic and social revitalization across numerous and diverse communities.

Menin Development currently owns and manages over $800 Million of high quality shopping centers, with another 3 million square feet under development; most recently completing the 350,000 square-foot Downtown at the Gardens in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. Tenants include a Cobb Theatres, Whole Foods Market, The Cheesecake Factory, Urban Outfitters, Z Gallerie, Yard House, Smith & Hawken and Sur La Table. Menin is also in the development process for Verde, an upscale, mixed-use town center located in western Boca Raton, Florida. Verde is situated on 37 acres and will contain approximately 1 million square feet amongst retail, office, and residential uses.