How many stars/famous S-African people are making it overseas without being famous in the motherland ?

For example, one of Germany's biggest star and most popular singer at this moment is Xavier Naidoo. His father is Indian S-african, his mother German.
He sings mostly in German and one of his songs was the inspiration song for the German national team on the WC last year

naidoo and the German team
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and one video shot in CT
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Who of you guys ever heard of him and are there more in other countries?

In Netherlands there is one girl on TV with SA roots
she presents a news program, started in a soap serie.
Her name is Maureen DuToit
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hmmm...interesting question...i have no idea

Hmm I can think of one, Vincent Ebrahim. He is from Cape Town, stared in the hit British TV talk show the Kumar's at no: 42. He played Sanjeev's dad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/ent/after_you_gone/300vincent_ebrahim.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5505/kumarsat4213ev.jpg

Wikipedia.org: Vincent Ebrahim is a British actor of Indian ethnicity. Born in South Africa, he studied drama at the University of Cape Town.

After immigrating to Britain in 1976, he spent a decade with a traveling theatre company, performing in plays such as Borderline by Hanif Kureishi. Since 1990, he has worked with Tara Arts, performing in such plays as Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme, Oedipus the King, Troilus and Cressida, and Antigone.

He is probably best known for playing Ashwin Kumar, the finance-obsessed father on The Kumars at No. 42

Also, he aint a celeb, but he was born in Durban.

Mark Gonzalez

http://www.liverpool.is/Myndasafn/Timabil2005-2006/gonzalez/gonza.jpg

Wikipedia.org: Mark Dennis González Hoffman (born July 10, 1984 in Durban, South Africa) commonly known as Mark González, is a Chilean footballer whose preferred position is as a left winger. Renowned for his lightning pace, he is nicknamed "Speedy Gonzalez". Gonzalez currently plays for Premiership side Liverpool.

His family moved to Chile when he was at a very young age, SAFA did confirm last year that they were to slow to lour him to play for Bafana, he was willing to play for his country of birth.

He enjoyed a decent year with Liverpool, netting an important goal on his debut to send Liverpool into the group stages of the UEFA Champions League, where they went on to reach the final & loose.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41416000/jpg/_41416389_gonzalez416.jpg

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He is now not needed at LFC & will move onto another team, most probably in the Spanish La Liga

i thought the kumars guy was from PE??

P.E , Cape Town, same thing :D

lol, I dno, could be P.E

Is any of you guys or girls familiar with Elrio Van Heerden?

nope, who he?

ummm...what he/she do?

Foosbal playa

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Is any of you guys or girls familiar with Elrio Van Heerden?

Yes, he is a player for Club Bruges in Belgium, played for FC Copenhagen before.
Thought he also plays in the Bafana team. But to call him a celeb.....

South African midfield player! He plays for FC Bruges, Belgian team. They bought him from FC Kopenhagen. He sometimes gets invited to play for Bafana Bafana.

Rather small, very fast, good technique and hard, secure passing. At the beginning of his period in Bruges he had a rough time and he was also injured for a long time. However more and more he shows his capacities and he is now becoming one of the most popular players among the Bruges supporters. If he confirms next season he might very well get a transfer to one of the big european competitions.

To give you an idea about FC Bruges: they play home games for a crowd of about 25.000 (they plan on building a new stadium of 40.000 because the current is often sold out) and in the last couple of seasons they played twice in the Champions League. Most remarkable results: away win on AC Milan, home win against Ajax.

One of his best actions you can watch here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QppTgIKwuTA

He scored one goal in a similar action (chosen most beautiful goal of the season by Bruges supporters) but the film on youtube is too long.

But to call him a celeb.....


Question was: who is making it outside SA and is not known in SA. He's already very famous in Bruges:) , quite famous in Belgium and he might become famous in Europe. Just watch him in the future...

Bruges did rather bad last season, and to be honest the Belgium league is not among the best ones. Would be a surprise to me if he moved to a European top team, he lacks the real quality.For him I hope I am wrong;)

Bruges did rather bad last season, and to be honest the Belgium league is not among the best ones. Would be a surprise to me if he moved to a European top team, he lacks the real quality.For him I hope I am wrong;)

"rather" is an understatement, they did very bad! (But they did win the cup.)

On topic, he is more famous in Belgium than any of the people already named in this topic. (I must admit I don't know any of them) I don't think he has got it in him to move to a top team but he sure has the qualities to play in a top competition.

^^ haha this is turning into a belguim forum...thanx for the diversity guys!

Im sure there is plenty of guys making it big oversea's & are South African & we dont know about them. Like that dude from Aus, his a singer that came through a reality T.V show similar to idols, he was from Asherville in Durban & I think he won or came 2nd in the competition, they should play his songs on ECR, but thats about it, but my mate in Aus said he was quite big there at the time.

A star from the old days ; Steve Mokone
One of the first black players in European football
There is even a book and film about his life

http://www.dezwartemeteoor.nl/foto/bord.jpg

http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Mokone