Ano daw? :nuts:

Hahaha never mind... 😜

;87090352']Sauna pa man gud na sya pamasangil anang iyang conspiracy theory..mao gani kapila na na sya na ban

Kay ngano man @WawaY[625]? Dili tinuod? Walay ibidinsya? :nuts::lol:

Aw, mo bitawng naay hustisya sa tawo og hustisya sa Ginoo. chakto? :guns1:

Kay ngano man @WawaY[625]? Dili tinuod? Walay ibidinsya? :nuts::lol:

Aw, mo bitawng naay hustisya sa tawo og hustisya sa Ginoo. chakto? :guns1:

Kaya nga inexplain ko din y walang add'l flights sa gensan. Kaso parang di mo naman ata naintindihan...kaya never mind na lang...hehehe happy rizal day na lang... 😜

Kaya nga inexplain ko din y walang add'l flights sa gensan. Kaso parang di mo naman ata naintindihan...kaya never mind na lang...hehehe happy rizal day na lang... 😜

Anoah? :nuts::lol:

Kaya nga inexplain ko din y walang add'l flights sa gensan. Kaso parang di mo naman ata naintindihan...kaya never mind na lang...hehehe happy rizal day na lang... 😜

kitams? maski unsa nimog explain dili na sya musabot kay mao ra jud iyang pagtoo

Kay ngano man @WawaY[625]? Dili tinuod? Walay ibidinsya? :nuts::lol:


Kay dili man jud tinood ug wala man jud ebidensya.Imo ra man nang pagtoo.Daghan na nag explain sa imoha ngano per dili gihapon ka maminaw.

Aw sabagay igo ra man na yawyaw nang imoha kay wala man puy maminaw sa imoha nga airline sa imong mga reklamo..aw dire man gani sa SSC kataw-an ra nang imong theory :lol:

;87092860']Kay dili man jud tinood ug wala man jud ebidensya.Imo ra man nang pagtoo.Daghan na nag explain sa imoha ngano per dili gihapon ka maminaw.

Aw sabagay igo ra man na yawyaw nang imoha kay wala man puy maminaw sa imoha nga airline sa imong mga reklamo..aw dire man gani sa SSC kataw-an ra nang imong theory :lol:

ACTUALLY before there was a once a week flight from Gensan to Manila by PAL using an HS748 turboproof aiircraft, this was considered a mercenary flight and was scrapped attributed by low demand.

;87092860']Kay dili man jud tinood ug wala man jud ebidensya.Imo ra man nang pagtoo.Daghan na nag explain sa imoha ngano per dili gihapon ka maminaw.

Aw sabagay igo ra man na yawyaw nang imoha kay wala man puy maminaw sa imoha nga airline sa imong mga reklamo..aw dire man gani sa SSC kataw-an ra nang imong theory :lol:

bitaw kataw-an...tan-awn nato...:)

ang grasa kay mulutaw raba jud sa tubig.

ACTUALLY before there was a once a week flight from Gensan to Manila by PAL using an HS748 turboproof aiircraft, this was considered a mercenary flight and was scrapped attributed by low demand.

:lol:
mao nay gusto mahitabo ni waway sa GES.

ACTUALLY before there was a once a week flight from Gensan to ILOILO by PAL using an HS748 turboproof aiircraft, this was considered a mercenary flight and was scrapped attributed by low demand.
Sorry CORRECTION TO MY PREVIOUS QUOTE Gensan to ILOILO ang route!!! happy new year to all !!!:cheers:

Sorry CORRECTION TO MY PREVIOUS QUOTE Gensan to ILOILO ang route!!! happy new year to all !!!:cheers:

which ever, mao jud nay gusto mahitabo sa mga uban diha ah. :bash:

Dili na ang gusto nako mahitabo..these are facts presented to you kung unsa ang realidad...the sooner you accept them the sooner ka maka move on...

"]Dili na ang gusto nako mahitabo..these are facts presented to you kung unsa ang realidad...the sooner you accept them the sooner ka maka move on...

Hehe hayaan mo na. Move ka na din. Idealistic lang talaga sya na kahit hindi pa kaya ng reality. ��

Dont worry jake, mahitabo gihapon na sa realidad di lang ta kabalo when mag materialize pero for now ayaw lang sa ka over react kay medyo ako pud ma offend. peace.

Dont worry jake, mahitabo gihapon na sa realidad di lang ta kabalo when mag materialize pero for now ayaw lang sa ka over react kay medyo ako pud ma offend. peace.

Yes, in due time :):):cheers::):):cheers::):)

@dayangdanayang...there is no better than to wait for Gensan be ripe on its own time and prime...sure like as the others did it will soar high but when the right one comes... yes we do not know when as yet but im sure it is near basing from developments going on right now on your beloved city....be patient and be humble my friend...

Cebu, Davao or any other city so to mention did not ripe their success overnite they too have their own share of frustrations and mind you even till now that notion is still there and like anyone else waited also the longest time before they harvested the fruits of their own labor but what is being good in there is that instead of never ending complaints they work hard at their own and look what happens now...in reality yes it is painful because of that notion of being left behind vis a vis neglected...but as we say never do it only by words but rather put that into action and from there well see...

have a Prosperous New Year!

@dayangdanayang...there is no better than to wait for Gensan be ripe on its own time and prime...sure like as the others did it will soar high but when the right one comes... yes we do not know when as yet but im sure it is near basing from developments going on right now on your beloved city....be patient and be humble my friend...

Cebu, Davao or any other city so to mention did not ripe their success overnite they too have their own share of frustrations and mind you even till now that notion is still there and like anyone else waited also the longest time before they harvested the fruits of their own labor but what is being good in there is that instead of never ending complaints they work hard at their own and look what happens now...in reality yes it is painful because of that notion of being left behind vis a vis neglected...but as we say never do it only by words but rather put that into action and from there well see...

have a Prosperous New Year!

Tumpak! May isa kang malaking CHECK! 😄😄😄😄😄

ang sabi pa ni chevyboi sisengkwenta lang daw ang passengers...eh bakit nag via davao pa si earlat? dahil ba hindi maka book?

I really smell something fishy going on. this time connivance nanaman ito...buking na ang nakawan style...connivance nanamn ang in ngayon. grrrr! :bash:

ang yellow bus line, abi mo kung airliner man...

I don't think there's connivance... Maybe demand lang gyud, medyo alanganin.. The reason nag-via Davao ko is first, the price is really hefty... P7,000 vs, P4,000... A savings of 3k.. is huge.. 2nd, ang transpo sa airport to Gensan City proper is way too difficult.. :D

I don't think there's connivance... Maybe demand lang gyud, medyo alanganin.. The reason nag-via Davao ko is first, the price is really hefty... P7,000 vs, P4,000... A savings of 3k.. is huge.. 2nd, ang transpo sa airport to Gensan City proper is way too difficult.. :D

Tama :lol::banana:

and naa sad koy relatives sa Davao so ni-visit na lang sad ko... :D

;87099082']Dili na ang gusto nako mahitabo..these are facts presented to you kung unsa ang realidad...the sooner you accept them the sooner ka maka move on...

Was that the same person from before? Yuong mapilit sa gusto niya???:lol::lol:

My only sentiment in this thread which is more of a wish is that, the renovation must be completed and that they should improve that renovation, the terminal itself has a lot of potential to make it more aesthetically pleasing, not that the old structure is aweful looking, it just needed be upgraded and modernized. The walkway shed itself was left unfinished for so long, I hope the government officials would take notice on these because it is imperative that the terminal should serve an inviting atmosphere from visitors as well as investors both from local and foreign sectors.

^^
Pinagtutulongan nyo ba ako? tsk!

kala nyo hapf!!!

^^
Pinagtutulongan nyo ba ako? tsk!

kala nyo hapf!!!

Ahem... Feeling mo lang yan... Masyado ka namang sensitive. Hahahaha happy new year sa lahat!!!!

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ang namian ko sa GES Airport is makita mo ang Sarangani Bay and Mt. Matutum! not to mention ang city proper ka gensan. pag abot mo palng sa GES mkita mo na ang mga spots sang SOCSARGEN. :) :)

happy new year

ang namian ko sa GES Airport is makita mo ang Sarangani Bay and Mt. Matutum! not to mention ang city proper ka gensan. pag abot mo palng sa GES mkita mo na ang mga spots sang SOCSARGEN. :) :)

Ti kundi amo gid ang "gateway" sang SOCSARGEN...ang iban bi kun diin diin pa gaparanaog kag ga lupad mu...

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★。＼\｜/／。★
HAPPY 2012
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ang sabi pa ni chevyboi sisengkwenta lang daw ang passengers...eh bakit nag via davao pa si earlat? dahil ba hindi maka book?

I really smell something fishy going on. this time connivance nanaman ito...buking na ang nakawan style...connivance nanamn ang in ngayon. grrrr! :bash:

ang yellow bus line, abi mo kung airliner man...

wala akong sinabi na nag yield ng 50 ang GES-CEB-GES na flight (5J 249 and 250) ang nag yield dati ng 50 ay yung early flight ng GES-MNL na 5J 992.. Pero as of now, napupuno na din un. Di bumaba ng 160 ang three flights ng MNL-GES-MNL ngayong peak season.

I guess kahit 3x weekly muna MNL-GES-MNL ang zest air... try muna nila market nila... parang medyo saturated na ang market unless na mag pick-up pa ung pax loads ng current flights.... last week 5J 991 left MNL for GES with only around 49 pax out of 156pax and 5J 992 left GenSan for MNL with only 39 pax....

wala akong sinabi na nag yield ng 50 ang GES-CEB-GES na flight (5J 249 and 250) ang nag yield dati ng 50 ay yung early flight ng GES-MNL na 5J 992.. Pero as of now, napupuno na din un. Di bumaba ng 160 ang three flights ng MNL-GES-MNL ngayong peak season.


May mga times naman talagang ganito lang ang dami ng passengers. even the MNL-CEB im sure may mga ganito ring eksena at certain time within the year. :ohno:

Ngayon, uber uber ang demand dahil sa holiday season pero hindi man lang nagdagdag ng frequencies ang mga airlines. andami tuloy nagbi-via davao pa...:bash:

Ginamit kasi ang planes na pandagdag sana ng frequency para sa mga lugar na mas mataas ang demand :lol: ano sa tingin mo, gensan lang mataas ang demand sa peak season?

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Pero Im sure di mo pa rin yan maintindihan :lol: hahaha..sige padayon sa pag yaw yaw :lol:

;87154231']Ginamit kasi ang planes na pandagdag sana ng frequency para sa mga lugar na mas mataas ang demand :lol: ano sa tingin mo, gensan lang mataas ang demand sa peak season?

:nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts::nuts:

Pero Im sure di mo pa rin yan maintindihan :lol: hahaha..sige padayon sa pag yaw yaw :lol:

:nuts:PagHELOM deha! :bash::bash::bash:

Ana Ka? Dont tell me naa poy sunset limitations ang operations sa mga airlines para dili sila kahigayon og add og frequency sa GES. Wala man pud kahay sunset limitations ang GES...ka-inchindi ka? humpfff :bash:

Nagpa-ila ra jud kang ikaw ang wala kasabot...
Or baka naman isa ka rin sa may mga major role sa connivance na nangyayari...:nuts::lol:

May mga times naman talagang ganito lang ang dami ng passengers. even the MNL-CEB im sure may mga ganito ring eksena at certain time within the year. :ohno:

Ngayon, uber uber ang demand dahil sa holiday season pero hindi man lang nagdagdag ng frequencies ang mga airlines. andami tuloy nagbi-via davao pa...:bash:

alam mo ba na nadagdagan ang GES ng 2 daily flights this year. 1-Airphil and 1-Cebu Pacific... may 5 daily flights to MNL na ang GenSan compared last year na 3 lang? Ano ung sinasabi mo na alang additional frequencies? Di ka pa ba masaya na may Airphil na tyo at three na ang flights ng Cebu Pacific to MNL? At ung GES-CEB-GES ay daily A320 na...

alam mo ba na nadagdagan ang GES ng 2 daily flights this year. 1-Airphil and 1-Cebu Pacific... may 5 daily flights to MNL na ang GenSan compared last year na 3 lang? Ano ung sinasabi mo na alang additional frequencies? Di ka pa ba masaya na may Airphil na tyo at three na ang flights ng Cebu Pacific to MNL? At ung GES-CEB-GES ay daily A320 na...

See jake, ikaw lang ang sige reklamo...naa may improvement sa GES pero sige lang ka yawyaw..oh well..padayon sa pag reklamo...ang nagbasa..padayon lang pud ug katawa :lol:

:rofl:
:baeh3::baeh3::baeh3:

It would be very convenient if we had more flights to Cebu, Ilo-ilo, and Bacolod. Its a dream and hopefully will soon come true.

alam mo ba na nadagdagan ang GES ng 2 daily flights this year. 1-Airphil and 1-Cebu Pacific... may 5 daily flights to MNL na ang GenSan compared last year na 3 lang? Ano ung sinasabi mo na alang additional frequencies? Di ka pa ba masaya na may Airphil na tyo at three na ang flights ng Cebu Pacific to MNL? At ung GES-CEB-GES ay daily A320 na...

Yang 2 flights na yan LONG OVERDUE na yan...dapat noon pa yan nila dinagdag in the early quarters of 2010. kung tutuusin, isang flight lang naman ang nadagdag eh. it is the airphil express kasi yung 5j 996 sa umaga ay dating nasa hapon yon...nilipat lang ng frequency dahil gapalak palak ang 5j sa presence ng 2p. :nuts:

iba talaga ang volume ng demands when it come to the HOLIDAYS... mind you, these airlines DID NOT add frequencies to GES...ang resulta, didto tanan sa DVO naga sakay kag naga paranaog...daw airline man ang YBL...:nuts:

;87156959']See jake, ikaw lang ang sige reklamo...naa may improvement sa GES pero sige lang ka yawyaw..oh well..padayon sa pag reklamo...ang nagbasa..padayon lang pud ug katawa :lol:

:rofl:
:baeh3::baeh3::baeh3:

hahahaha :nuts:

Pagsure @WawaY[625] uie! :lol:

padayuna ra pud imong pagka-ugobs og pagka buta-bungol nga dili man unta ka ing ana...oh well, its your choice. :nuts:
see my post #783 for your enlightenment.

Yang 2 flights na yan LONG OVERDUE na yan...dapat noon pa yan nila dinagdag in the early quarters of 2010. kung tutuusin, isang flight lang naman ang nadagdag eh. it is the airphil express kasi yung 5j 996 sa umaga ay dating nasa hapon yon...nilipat lang ng frequency dahil gapalak palak ang 5j sa presence ng 2p. :nuts:

iba talaga ang volume ng demands when it come to the HOLIDAYS...it mind you, these airlines DID NOT add frequencies to GES...ang resulta, didto tanan sa DVO naga sakay kag naga paranaog...daw airline man ang YBL...:nuts:

Dalawa nga ang nadagdag diba.... 5J 992 and 2P 990... ang 5J 996 eh 3pm pa din ang departure ng GenSan...

2P 990 0730H - MNL (New flight this year)
5J 992 0750H - MNL (New flight this year)
5J 994 0940H - MNL
PR 454 1000H - MNL
5J 250 1135H - CEB
5J 996 1500H - MNL

Dalawa nga ang nadagdag diba.... 5J 992 and 2P 990... ang 5J 996 eh 3pm pa din ang departure ng GenSan...

2P 990 0730H - MNL (New flight this year)
5J 992 0750H - MNL (New flight this year)
5J 994 0940H - MNL
PR 454 1000H - MNL
5J 250 1135H - CEB
5J 996 1500H - MNL

correction, my mistake...its 5j 992 ang flight na trinansfer from late afteroon to early morning dahil sa pagka praning ng 5j.

hindi nakaktulong ang kapraningan ng 5j na yan sa ekonomiya ng socsksargen! :bash:

2P 990 0730H - MNL (New flight this year)
5J 992 0750H - MNL (former afternoon flight, transferred to morning to compete with 2P)
5J 994 0940H - MNL
PR 454 1000H - MNL
5J 250 1135H - CEB
5J 996 1500H - MNL

isa ra jud ang nadungag na flight sa 2010. :ohno:
Unya, wala pa jud nag dugang og frequencies para sa holidays! Ang resulta, nabulahan pag ayo ang DVO og YBL. :bash: ggrrrr

correction, my mistake...its 5j 992 ang flight na trinansfer from late afteroon to early morning dahil sa pagka praning ng 5j.

hindi nakaktulong ang kapraningan ng 5j na yan sa ekonomiya ng socsksargen! :bash:

What you mean was 5J 998 na 5pm ang ETD nung summer na M-W-F-Su...

Matagal ng ang 5J 991/992, extra flights un before kapag peak season. Kaso ngayon, regular service na....

Ang pagkapraning mo ang di makakatulong.... Alam mo ba na sobra 50% ng traffic sa GenSan eh dahil sa Cebu Pacific at 4 out of 6 daily flights Sa GenSan ay Cebu Pacific.... ingat lang sa words mo dude....

What you mean was 5J 998 na 5pm ang ETD nung summer na M-W-F-Su...

Matagal ng ang 5J 991/992, extra flights un before kapag peak season. Kaso ngayon, regular service na....

Ang pagkapraning mo ang di makakatulong.... Alam mo ba na sobra 50% ng traffic sa GenSan eh dahil sa Cebu Pacific at 4 out of 6 daily flights Sa GenSan ay Cebu Pacific.... ingat lang sa words mo dude....

yes, yan yung gina mean ko.

Honga noh? more than 50%!...papunta na ba sa monopoly???---leaving generals and pips of socsargen with "walang matinong choices".

2P 990 0730H - MNL (New flight this year)
5J 992 0750H - MNL (former afternoon flight, transferred to morning to compete with 2P)
5J 994 0940H - MNL
PR 454 1000H - MNL
5J 250 1135H - CEB
5J 996 1500H - MNL

isa ra jud ang nadungag na flight sa 2010. :ohno:
Unya, wala pa jud nag dugang og frequencies para sa holidays! Ang resulta, nabulahan pag ayo ang DVO og YBL. :bash: ggrrrr

PAK! :bash: mali ka nanaman!! 5J 998 ung late afternoon na flight! :bash:

ung 5J 991/992 extra section flights lang yan dati kpag peak season... ang departure dati niyan sa MNL ay 8am or 10am.. ginawang 530am ang ETD nung naging regular service na.

Ingat ka lang sa words mo kasi ang Cebu Pacific malaki ang natulong sa ekonomiya ng GEnSan, ikaw wala...

PAK! :bash: mali ka nanaman!! 5J 998 ung late afternoon na flight! :bash:

ung 5J 991/992 extra section flights lang yan dati kpag peak season... ang departure dati niyan sa MNL ay 8am or 10am.. ginawang 530am ang ETD nung naging regular service na.

Ingat ka lang sa words mo kasi ang Cebu Pacific malaki ang natulong sa ekonomiya ng GEnSan, ikaw wala...
Mag ingat ka rin sa wordz moh...

Mag ingat ka rin sa wordz moh...

factual lahat ng sinasabi ko... :bash:

factual lahat ng sinasabi ko... :bash:

bakit, may sinabi ba akong misleading sa mga sinabi mo?

^^ Naku Chevy, no use arguing. :D
Basta ako, may new flights na ILO-GES ang CebPac...........
.......
.......
.......
sa Flight Simulator ko! :nocrook:

^^ Naku Chevy, no use arguing. :D
Basta ako, may new flights na ILO-GES ang CebPac...........
.......
.......
.......
sa Flight Simulator ko! :nocrook:

Yah I know.... :D

#789

connivance connivance...

^^
May dagdag na flights ka rin sana ng CEB-GES at MNL-GES...at night flights din...baka kasi walang available na eroplano sa day time eh.........sa flight simulator moh...:nuts: :lol:

^^ hahaha... New Year na oi.. :D

hahahaha :nuts:

Pagsure @WawaY[625] uie! :lol:

padayuna ra pud imong pagka-ugobs og pagka buta-bungol nga dili man unta ka ing ana...oh well, its your choice. :nuts:
see my post #783 for your enlightenment.

kinsa ra ang ugobs ron nga maskin kababayan nimo ginakataw-an ka hahaha

quote ko lang ha :lol::lol::lol:



Ang pagkapraning mo ang di makakatulong.... Alam mo ba na sobra 50% ng traffic sa GenSan eh dahil sa Cebu Pacific at 4 out of 6 daily flights Sa GenSan ay Cebu Pacific.... ingat lang sa words mo dude....


Ingat ka lang sa words mo kasi ang Cebu Pacific malaki ang natulong sa ekonomiya ng GEnSan, ikaw wala...

:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:

;87158350']kinsa ra ang ugobs ron nga maskin kababayan nimo ginakataw-an ka hahaha

azousss...! igkalipay ra kaayong @WawaY[625]. hehehe mao ka!

Dili man ko pariha nimo nga go with the flow. Murag layang dahon nga nahulog sa kanal. ha ha

Hahaha oh well...

Good news!
May direct flights na ang Airphil, GES-ILO on an Airbus A320 2P 393/394! Try nyo mag mock booking mga October ang byahe. :)

Good news!
May direct flights na ang Airphil, GES-ILO on an Airbus A320 2P 393/394! Try nyo mag mock booking mga October ang byahe. :)

November mag start... M-W-F 2P393/394.....

Good news!
May direct flights na ang Airphil, GES-ILO on an Airbus A320 2P 393/394! Try nyo mag mock booking mga October ang byahe. :)
OMG!!!! :banana:
Matutuwa na nyan si Jake!! Hehehe!!! :D

Good news!
May direct flights na ang Airphil, GES-ILO on an Airbus A320 2P 393/394! Try nyo mag mock booking mga October ang byahe. :)

:):):)
a homecoming for two cities!:cheers::cheers::cheers:

November mag start... M-W-F 2P393/394.....

I heard someone sa Airphil fan page na nag book na daw siya October 26 departure tapos mga November 5 na yung arrival
Nasa booking pero wala pa rin sa timetable nila

OMG!!!! :banana:
Matutuwa na nyan si Jake!! Hehehe!!! :D

Di lang si Jake ang matutuwa niyan, pati mga kababayan niyang taga GenSan at Iloilo. I've seen lots of wall posts sa Airphil FB page requesting for a GES-ILO route kaya ayun, natupad na. :)

Even you Bern, tuwang tuwa na rin hehehe

Di lang si Jake ang matutuwa niyan, pati mga kababayan niyang taga GenSan at Iloilo. I've seen lots of wall posts sa Airphil FB page requesting for a GES-ILO route kaya ayun, natupad na. :)

Even you Bern, tuwang tuwa na rin hehehe
Opcors! More reasons to go back to the province for me, hahaha!! Finally!! A sigh of relief for the people of Soccsksargen and Western Visayas.

And someone has already booked I guess...

Mitch P***** (http://www.facebook.com/airphilexpressph/posts/299378350099924)
Hi APX. I just booked a flight Iloilo-General Santos-Iloilo for Oct 26/Nov 5. Is the schedule (pdf) available on the website not updated because I cannot see this route?

And someone has already booked I guess...

That's what I'm talking about. :lol:^^

Another good news!

Airphil will soon commence GES-CEB 2P 389/390 MWF on an Airbus A320 this April 2012!

AirPhil Express General Santos-Iloilo Direct flight schedule

GES-ILO # Depart 10:10AM # ETA 11:30AM #2P 393 # Mon,Wed,Fri
ILO-GES # Depart 12:00AM # ETA 01:20AM #2P 394 # Mon,Wed,Fri

Source: AirPhilExpress (https://book.airphilexpress.com/meridia?posid=A3OE&sid=me2re72r9r2mvi-9yyv:3baa2b374f09d92945c6b0f4fb3544b92c727ed40f2b0ce3ca64eb0e830cf01a&&RequestForItin=Air&airline1=2P&Class=CoachClass&CHD=0&action=airRequest&fareled=false&page=requestAirMessage_air&ACCOUNT_PREFCURRENCYCODE=PHP&errorsExist=FALSE&From=GES&ACCOUNT_IPCC=A3OE&MATRIX=ENABLE&returnMonth=OCT&direction=returntravel&flexlevel=non&returnDay=3&ShoppingCartCount=0&DelegateHostName=us2P_SABRE&INF=0&showfares=false&ADT=1&To=ILO&departDay=1&returnTime=anytimeFromHost&CityKeyToGetTimeZoneOffset=To&departTime=anytimeFromHost&REMOTE_USER_IP=64.235.245.4&numofstops=1&actionType=nonFlex&MinutesOffset=0&multi=false&returnYear=2012&path=nonFlex&realRequestAir=realRequestAir&departYear=2012&BROWSER_ACCEPT_HEADER=text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8&departMonth=OCT&BROWSER_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/5.0%20(Windows%20NT%205.1)%20AppleWebKit/535.7%20(KHTML,%20like%20Gecko)%20Chrome/16.0.912.63%20Safari/535.7&LeftAirSearch=true&showAirlines=FALSE&departTimeZoneOffset=14&fareMatrixPrevURL=&)

^^ October????!
DUGAYA PA UIE!!!

Antagal ha! haist!

OMG!!!! :banana:
Matutuwa na nyan si Jake!! Hehehe!!! :D

Hilaw na tuwa kamo. :ohno:

Di lang si Jake ang matutuwa niyan, pati mga kababayan niyang taga GenSan at Iloilo. I've seen lots of wall posts sa Airphil FB page requesting for a GES-ILO route kaya ayun, natupad na. :)

Even you Bern, tuwang tuwa na rin hehehe

buti naman.

Another good news!

Airphil will soon commence GES-CEB 2P 389/390 MWF on an Airbus A320 this April 2012!

ngayong january na sana sila nag simula...

And someone has already booked I guess...

bakit di na lang sila mag start ng GES-ILO ngayon february or march? in time for the summer vacation??? ang mga socsksargen pips nga mapaboracay puydi sila sa ililo manaog...hahayyy kaalangan man sang starting date ah.

bakit di na lang sila mag start ng GES-ILO ngayon february or march? in time for the summer vacation??? ang mga socsksargen pips nga mapaboracay puydi sila sa ililo manaog...hahayyy kaalangan man sang starting date ah.

I think they're waiting for their new Airbus aircraft. :)

bakit di na lang sila mag start ng GES-ILO ngayon february or march? in time for the summer vacation??? ang mga socsksargen pips nga mapaboracay puydi sila sa ililo manaog...hahayyy kaalangan man sang starting date ah.

Sir, parating pa lang ang bagong eroplano nila ser. Intay lang ser. Baka gusto mong kausapin ang mga taga-Tolouse na madaliin na yan. Parlez vous Francais? :nocrook:
Hilaw? LOL! Sino kaya nagwawala sa Facebook para ibalita at iconfirm to sa AirPhil people? Pag-chor oi! Don't judge me since I am not a book or you are Justice Corona! :bash: :lol:

^^^^^^

AirPhil Express General Santos-Iloilo Direct flight schedule

GES-ILO # Depart 10:10AM # ETA 11:30AM #2P 393 # Mon,Wed,Fri
ILO-GES # Depart 12:00AM # ETA 01:20AM #2P 394 # Mon,Wed,Fri

Source: AirPhilExpress (https://book.airphilexpress.com/meridia?posid=A3OE&sid=me2re72r9r2mvi-9yyv:3baa2b374f09d92945c6b0f4fb3544b92c727ed40f2b0ce3ca64eb0e830cf01a&&RequestForItin=Air&airline1=2P&Class=CoachClass&CHD=0&action=airRequest&fareled=false&page=requestAirMessage_air&ACCOUNT_PREFCURRENCYCODE=PHP&errorsExist=FALSE&From=GES&ACCOUNT_IPCC=A3OE&MATRIX=ENABLE&returnMonth=OCT&direction=returntravel&flexlevel=non&returnDay=3&ShoppingCartCount=0&DelegateHostName=us2P_SABRE&INF=0&showfares=false&ADT=1&To=ILO&departDay=1&returnTime=anytimeFromHost&CityKeyToGetTimeZoneOffset=To&departTime=anytimeFromHost&REMOTE_USER_IP=64.235.245.4&numofstops=1&actionType=nonFlex&MinutesOffset=0&multi=false&returnYear=2012&path=nonFlex&realRequestAir=realRequestAir&departYear=2012&BROWSER_ACCEPT_HEADER=text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8&departMonth=OCT&BROWSER_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/5.0%20(Windows%20NT%205.1)%20AppleWebKit/535.7%20(KHTML,%20like%20Gecko)%20Chrome/16.0.912.63%20Safari/535.7&LeftAirSearch=true&showAirlines=FALSE&departTimeZoneOffset=14&fareMatrixPrevURL=&)
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increased flights, new routes, just on the 4th day of 2012!!!!!!!!:banana::banana::banana:

congrats to ILO and GES as well!!!

a good news to start the year for gensan...
im excited!!!

jake had the last laugh after all... ;-)

a good news to start the year for gensan...
im excited!!!

jake had the last laugh after all... ;-)
Too bad, it ain't Gokongwei. Hehe!!! :D

Beginning March 23, 2012, 2P will start their GES-ILO-GES route using Airbus A320 every M-W-F.
GES-ILO ETD: 10:10am ETA: 11:30am
ILO-GES ETD: 12:00pm ETA: 01:20pm

On the same dates, they will also start CEBU-GES-Cebu route. :)

Too bad, it ain't Gokongwei. Hehe!!! :D

its rather too good... prevents monopoly.

Starting March 23, 2012, 2P will start their GES-ILO-GES route using Airbus A320 every M-W-F.
GES-ILO ETD: 10:10am ETA: 11:30am
ILO-GES ETD: 12:00pm ETA: 01:20pm

On the same dates, they will also start CEBU-GES-Cebu route. :)
Surprise. Have they issued an official statement?

its rather too good... prevents monopoly.
Di mo gets, hehehe!!! :D

Surprise. Have they issued an official statement?

Di mo gets, hehehe!!! :D

yeah?!!! clear it up for me then...

please

yeah?!!! clear it up for me then...

please
Was referring to the rants of Jake about 5J from the previous pages.

Surprise. Have they issued an official statement?

Try mock booking on those dates. :)

Try mock booking on those dates. :)
All right. I'll just wait for their official statement. But this is indeed a good news. :okay:
And looks like its a nice strategy/move from APX for getting the Soccsksargen crowd by maintaining DVO market for 1x daily while getting 3x weekly for Gensan. APX still has a monopoly of the direct GES-ILO which all would love...especially the students!

Was referring to the rants of Jake about 5J from the previous pages.

i didnt read them. :-)

but isnt that exciting? im so glad were getting more flights...

Try mock booking on those dates. :)

you mean its not there yet?!!! that doesnt make any sense... someone already booked a flight.

i didnt read them. :-)

but isnt that exciting? im so glad were getting more flights...
:okay: If Negros Navigation and SuperFerry have been ferrying the people between the two cities historically, then I guess there is nothing wrong with taking the risk of investing to it.

you mean its not there yet?!!! that doesnt make any sense... someone already booked a flight.

Here's the transcript earlier at Facebook:

Apx Attendant
Hi, No news yet for the opening of GES-ILO route. Check our fan page more often for any updates.

Me
Hi! No news but someone has bought a ticket already? Also, it is displayed on your Sabre system.

Apx Attendant
We'll give you the official announcement soon. I promise.

Me
All right. Sana di ito "kuryente." This development is keeping us excited actually. We have been clamouring for that route for long now.

A post in Iloilo thread states:
bago lang ko tawag sa AirPhil. hulat lang ta official announcement para sure na gid. gin butang lang anay nila da pero sure na my flight ah. dapat daily na gani kuno.:cheers:

Sir, parating pa lang ang bagong eroplano nila ser. Intay lang ser. Baka gusto mong kausapin ang mga taga-Tolouse na madaliin na yan. Parlez vous Francais? :nocrook:
Hilaw? LOL! Sino kaya nagwawala sa Facebook para ibalita at iconfirm to sa AirPhil people? Pag-chor oi! Don't judge me since I am not a book or you are Justice Corona! :bash: :lol:

ahy hambot bern ah...tak-an takon.

a good news to start the year for gensan...
im excited!!!

jake had the last laugh after all... ;-)

not really, october pa kaya yan...tagal pa...banatan nila dapat promotion and ads para ma disseminate sang maayo sa bugkos nga SOCSKSARGEN area. hahayyy.

come to think of it, nagawa mag dagdag ng flight ng airphil express sa DVO-ILO as early as late last year tapos ang GES-ILO hulaton pa mag abot ang ila nga aircraft? sino gina into nila???:nuts:

Opcors! More reasons to go back to the province for me, hahaha!! Finally!! A sigh of relief for the people of Soccsksargen and Western Visayas.

talaga lang bern ha. hehehe

nyways, kung sa october pa gid ni mag start (:nuts::nuts::nuts:) YBL will only have 10 months to feel like an airliner too.:nuts:

ang mayad pa sa YBL noh..., mag establish sanda sang premier bus route from marbel to GSIA direct. chakto gid na...airliner gyapon ang YBL.

Too bad, it ain't Gokongwei. Hehe!!! :D

daw bff gid kamo bi mu...

All right. I'll just wait for their official statement. But this is indeed a good news. :okay:
And looks like its a nice strategy/move from APX for getting the Soccsksargen crowd by maintaining DVO market for 1x daily while getting 3x weekly for Gensan. APX still has a monopoly of the direct GES-ILO which all would love...especially the students!

its a good news indeed...but the commencement date is a SOUR news. SWEET 'n SOUR guwa ya. :bash:

para sabihin mag start na sa 2012...kung tutuusin halos mag 2013 na :nuts::nuts::nuts:

into into 101

ha ha ha ha....

La lang...I have this funny thought of DVO singing "break it to me gently".
Tama ba APX? :lol::nuts:

wild thought lang ni ha. no offense meant.

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increased flights, new routes, just on the 4th day of 2012!!!!!!!!:banana::banana::banana:

congrats to ILO and GES!!!

now ILO has 3 Mindanao routes Davao, CdeO, and now Gen San!!!!:banana::banana::banana:
congrtz.. to us... guyz.. cheers....... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

ha ha ha ha....

La lang...I have this funny thought of DVO singing "break it to me gently".
Tama ba APX? :lol::nuts:

wild thought lang ni ha. no offense meant.

Actually, the new routes would be a great break for DVO... All slots are always full of planes.. It needs to be decongested a bit. (kahit na yung isang sirang bridge ay may naka park na) Just today, ALL waiting areas in the Domestic wing were full of people. SRO na nga actually. Even the Mabuhay class lounge.

I agree.. Medyo crowded ang Davao Airport waiting area... Nabyaan ko sa plane gahapon so I have to wait for another flight and wa nako nitindog sa akong lingkuranan for 4 hours... kay daghan jud ug tawo.. :ohno:

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ha ha ha ha....

La lang...I have this funny thought of DVO singing "break it to me gently".
Tama ba APX? :lol::nuts:

wild thought lang ni ha. no offense meant.

LOL to this! :lol:

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^^ naa na jud competition ang Cebu Pac and what's good is they cater to our Ilonggo kababayans... at least more flexible na ang flights going to Cebu and I can go home anytime..:D

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Oh, march naman pala mag uumpisa eh...

sabi october?..."sweet n' sour" na yang october ha...:lol:
march is tama lang...just the right ripeness.

Mr. Lucio Tan never fails GenSan...unlike mr. gokongwei...humpf

Thank God for the Good news! Happy New Year indeed! wow! hahaha. anytime nko ka puli. yipeeee!

Actually, the new routes would be a great break for DVO... All slots are always full of planes.. It needs to be decongested a bit. (kahit na yung isang sirang bridge ay may naka park na) Just today, ALL waiting areas in the Domestic wing were full of people. SRO na nga actually. Even the Mabuhay class lounge.

So, are you suggesting an expansion for DVO?

I strongly suggest a transfer of DVO to a wider, and safer area somewhere farther north in the middle of Davao region (which the airport generally serves), somewhere on that vast valley plain currently planted with bananas. Ideally between Tagum and Asuncion in Davao del Norte. :cheers:

its a good news indeed...but the commencement date is a SOUR news. SWEET 'n SOUR guwa ya. :bash:

para sabihin mag start na sa 2012...kung tutuusin halos mag 2013 na :nuts::nuts::nuts:

into into 101

Its March 2012, not October 2012. The reason why is that there is no official announcement from APX yet, but the flights are there.

Its March 2012, not October 2012. The reason why is that there is no official announcement from APX yet, but the flights are there.

ok then...its should be fine...just in time for summer. :cheers::)

Flight Schedule for General Santos International Airport

2P 990 Manila 0730H Daily
5J 992 Manila 0750H Daily
5J 994 Manila 0940H Daily
PR 454 Manila 1000H Daily
2P 393 Ilo Ilo 1010H M-W-F
5J 250 Cebu 1135H Daily
2P 390 Cebu 1350H M-W-F
5J 996 Manila 1500H Daily

8 Flights every M-W-F (7 A320 and 1 A330/A343 or B744)
6 Flights every T-Tu-Sa-Su (5 A320 and 1 A330/A343 or B744)

^^ naa na jud competition ang Cebu Pac and what's good is they cater to our Ilonggo kababayans... at least more flexible na ang flights going to Cebu and I can go home anytime..:D

inunahan tuloy sila ng airphil...

So, are you suggesting an expansion for DVO?

I strongly suggest a transfer of DVO to a wider, and safer area somewhere farther north in the middle of Davao region (which the airport generally serves), somewhere on that vast valley plain currently planted with bananas. Ideally between Tagum and Asuncion in Davao del Norte. :cheers:

hmmm...tingkoling...ikaw ba yan? I just got another reason why hindi puwede doon... flooding of the area. usually the vast expanse of kapalong/asuncion is very wet esp. during jan-march and nov-dec. YOu also said it yourself.... it is a VALLEY!. The Kapalong/asuncion/panabo/dujali areas are very much conducive to Banana, And besides, The philippine Economy is also very much dependent on Banana exports... so why kill the goose that lays the golden egg? (I do hope you understand the analogy...) .....so..please lang...no debate tingkoling... I did not make any suggestion of DVO expansion. I also believe you do not know that during the war, the americans and Japanese saw the feasibility of both Matina and Sasa as the most suitable places to put their forward airbases there because simply it has the best general location in the Davao region.
i merely said it is Good for GES to have an ILO-GES flight now para maibsan ng konti ang DVO.... Ikaw lang naman ang kailangan magising sa katotohanan about transferring DVO to Asuncion is Highly not feasible....

Please.... Behave...tahimik na ang GES thread and I am just simply very happy that GES is also improving/getting back its historic flights namely CEB and ILO. DVO can survive even if these flights (GES-CEB, GES-ILO) are now doing its role in the development of REgion XII as a whole.

hmmm...tingkoling...ikaw ba yan? I just got another reason why hindi puwede doon... flooding of the area. usually the vast expanse of kapalong/asuncion is very wet esp. during jan-march and nov-dec. YOu also said it yourself.... it is a VALLEY!. The Kapalong/asuncion/panabo/dujali areas are very much conducive to Banana, And besides, The philippine Economy is also very much dependent on Banana exports... so why kill the goose that lays the golden egg? (I do hope you understand the analogy...) .....so..please lang...no debate tingkoling... I did not make any suggestion of DVO expansion. I also believe you do not know that during the war, the americans and Japanese saw the feasibility of both Matina and Sasa as the most suitable places to put their forward airbases there because simply it has the best general location in the Davao region.
i merely said it is Good for GES to have an ILO-GES flight now para maibsan ng konti ang DVO.... Ikaw lang naman ang kailangan magising sa katotohanan about transferring DVO to Asuncion is Highly not feasible....

Please.... Behave...tahimik na ang GES thread and I am just simply very happy that GES is also improving/getting back its historic flights namely CEB and ILO. DVO can survive even if these flights (GES-CEB, GES-ILO) are now doing its role in the development of REgion XII as a whole.

Check! Why tingkoling? Hehe

I hope next are GES-CDO, GES-BCD, GES-ZAM and GES-MPH.. soon enough! :)

^^ and few months from now Zest Air will enter the arena. :okay:

Beginning 23rd March of 2012, and every Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays there in after, GES has the following flight schedules on its flight status information board:


Arrivals
07.00 am -- 2P 989 manila
07.10 am -- 5J 991 manila
09.00 am -- PR 453 manila
09.10 am -- 5J 993 manila
09.40 am -- 2P 389 cebu
11.05 am -- 5J 249 cebu
01.20 pm -- 2P 394 iloilo
02.30 pm -- 5J 995 manila

Departures
07.30 am -- 2P 990 manila
07.40 am -- 5J 992 manila
09.40 am -- 5J 994 manila
10.00 am -- PR 454 manila
10.10 am -- 2P 393 iloilo
11.15 am -- 5J 250 cebu
01.50 pm -- 2P 390 cebu
03.00 pm -- 5J 996 manila

I wish Zest Air will initiate daily evening flights to and from GenSan. :cheers:
Looking forward for new destinations such as CGY and ZAM (the Mindanao link, to complete the LUZVIMINDA).

hmmm...tingkoling...ikaw ba yan? I just got another reason why hindi puwede doon... flooding of the area. usually the vast expanse of kapalong/asuncion is very wet esp. during jan-march and nov-dec. YOu also said it yourself.... it is a VALLEY!. The Kapalong/asuncion/panabo/dujali areas are very much conducive to Banana, And besides, The philippine Economy is also very much dependent on Banana exports... so why kill the goose that lays the golden egg? (I do hope you understand the analogy...) .....so..please lang...no debate tingkoling... I did not make any suggestion of DVO expansion. I also believe you do not know that during the war, the americans and Japanese saw the feasibility of both Matina and Sasa as the most suitable places to put their forward airbases there because simply it has the best general location in the Davao region.
i merely said it is Good for GES to have an ILO-GES flight now para maibsan ng konti ang DVO.... Ikaw lang naman ang kailangan magising sa katotohanan about transferring DVO to Asuncion is Highly not feasible....

Please.... Behave...tahimik na ang GES thread and I am just simply very happy that GES is also improving/getting back its historic flights namely CEB and ILO. DVO can survive even if these flights (GES-CEB, GES-ILO) are now doing its role in the development of REgion XII as a whole.

:okay:
More links pa sana for GES...Mindanao links naman sana like CGY and ZAM.:yes:

basta ako @cemby, I stand by my suggestion because that is what I see as the best for the entire Davao region. All the best lang, politics aside. Sa totoo lang talaga. Matina or Calinan area is not good for an airstrip because of the natural wind flow which is North-South and South-North and the presence of Mt. Apo. Mas maganda pa ang Samal Island para sa DVO...then put up a bridge to connect Mainland Mindanao to Samal island.

Dapat ang YBL mag support man sang sini na developments (GES-ILO-GES). Dapat mag apply na sila sa LTFRB sang regular route (Premiere class) from Marbel to GSIA direct! Para ever comfortable, affordable kag hassle-free gid ang transit. Dapat YBL kag iban pa nga mga transport service providers.

Keep them coming...... :-)

Beginning 23rd March of 2012, and every Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays there in after, GES has the following flight schedules on its flight status information board:


Arrivals
07.00 am -- 2P 989 manila
07.10 am -- 5J 991 manila
09.00 am -- PR 453 manila
09.10 am -- 5J 993 manila
09.40 am -- 2P 389 cebu
11.05 am -- 5J 249 cebu
01.20 pm -- 2P 394 iloilo
02.30 pm -- 5J 995 manila

Departures
07.30 am -- 2P 990 manila
07.40 am -- 5J 992 manila
09.40 am -- 5J 994 manila
10.00 am -- PR 454 manila
10.10 am -- 2P 393 iloilo
11.15 am -- 5J 250 cebu
01.50 pm -- 2P 390 cebu
03.00 pm -- 5J 996 manila

I wish Zest Air will initiate daily evening flights to and from GenSan. :cheers:
Looking forward for new destinations such as CGY and ZAM (the Mindanao link, to complete the LUZVIMINDA).


Keep them coming...... :-)

:yes: Please keep them coming more! :okay:

Flight Schedule for General Santos International Airport

2P 990 Manila 0730H Daily
5J 992 Manila 0750H Daily
5J 994 Manila 0940H Daily
PR 454 Manila 1000H Daily
2P 393 Ilo Ilo 1010H M-W-F
5J 250 Cebu 1135H Daily
2P 390 Cebu 1350H M-W-F
5J 996 Manila 1500H Daily

8 Flights every M-W-F (7 A320 and 1 A330/A343 or B744)
6 Flights every T-Tu-Sa-Su (5 A320 and 1 A330/A343 or B744)

^^ ubay2 na sad gyud ay flights sa Gensan... Kung madugangan pa gani, murag di ko ka-imagine kung unsa ka-guot ang AIRPORT sa Gensan..

Before Cebu Pacific and AirPhilExpress came in at Gensan, how many flights were there?

Before Cebu Pacific and AirPhilExpress came in at Gensan, how many flights were there?

in the early 90's sang sa buayan pa ang airport we had 4-5 flights...wala pa gani to direct flight pa manila.

ang link lang sadto kay cebu kag ililo.

in the early 2000s...may tatlo bala ka flight...2 flights of PR for MNL and CEB and 1 flight of Air Philippines to MNL. ti, hamakon mo, pila ka tuig nga amo sina ang flight schedules sang GES? waay gid growth? Hambal daw?

and during that time perti gid kamahal mahal sang airticket from GES and v.v. compared to DVO! ti, san-o nag open ang airport sang pihak baryo? perti gid nanda nga pamugas kon...:nuts: amo na kon may dreams ang iban gusto nga makab-ot, lapakan gid nya ang kaluluoy nga iban para lang makaangat kag makab-ot ang gusto nya maabot nga indi nya man masarangan...lantawon ta lang...malantaw lang ako in shock and awe.

San-o malang nang inter ang cebu pacific?...daw sang 2006 bala...correct me if im wrong...

^^ ubay2 na sad gyud ay flights sa Gensan... Kung madugangan pa gani, murag di ko ka-imagine kung unsa ka-guot ang AIRPORT sa Gensan..
Huot jud kaayu...ang check-in, departure lounge og arrival hall. wala naman gani space for ticketing office ang Zest Air if ever they will come in..dapat gamiton na jud ang second floor para lang sa departure lounges (domestic and international). plus then, of course ang state-of-the-art jetbridges dapat naa. og dapat i-aircon na jud ang tibuok sulod sa terminal building including the arrival hall.

Perti jud ang paglapastangan sa GES from 2000 to this date. :nuts: perti gid!!
starting from passenger movement (greatly affected due to high ticket prices kay wala daw may manakay...sabi?:nuts:)
then as a result, low passenger movement!...then kay low passenger movement man, gitagan-an rag sentimos nga budget para sa renovation unya gi-usik usikan pa jud sa mga walay pulos nga mga gipangbutang nga anik anik :bash: :ohno:

:okay:
More links pa sana for GES...Mindanao links naman sana like CGY and ZAM.:yes:

basta ako @cemby, I stand by my suggestion because that is what I see as the best for the entire Davao region. All the best lang, politics aside. Sa totoo lang talaga. Matina or Calinan area is not good for an airstrip because of the natural wind flow which is North-South and South-North and the presence of Mt. Apo. Mas maganda pa ang Samal Island para sa DVO...then put up a bridge to connect Mainland Mindanao to Samal island.


Please just mind GES na lang... matina used to have an airstrip but was long gone. (the runway traverses the current Acacia street actually and the apron was the back field of Ateneo de Davao) so please just mind GES na lang... BTW.. Davao airport or the SASA airfield was present way before world war II... Same goes with the Matina airfield. it was the staging area for attacks. kaya nga binomba ang Davao/sasa/matina airfield almost simultaneously with Manila because of the airfield present there. And right after the war, Sasa airfield (the current DVO int'l) became a commercial aviation airfield and was viable... Hindi nga kailangan magtapakan...hindi naman kasi talaga kailangan because historically, it is viable..no need to transfer yet.

Now, what would you feel if I say it is better to put GES in Koronadal? Your idea of transferring dVO to Asuncion is the same as the idea of transferring GES to Marbel... lol...

so my eternal suggestion to you is: Just be happy that GES is getting better, attracting more flights and passengers. Huwag mo nang sisihin if you feel that the GES growth is stunted because may katabing DVO... Matagal ng established ang DVO sa site nito even when GES ay nasa Buayan pa....

Ask lang po ako. How do you get from GES to M'lang? :)

Ask lang po ako. How do you get from GES to M'lang? :)
There are L300 vans at Bulaong Bus terminal that serve Gensan-M'lang or Gensan-Carmen Cotabato. Kidapawan-bound L300 vans by-pass M'lang Town proper.

There are L300 vans at Bulaong Bus terminal that serve Gensan-M'lang or Gensan-Carmen Cotabato. Kidapawan-bound L300 vans by-pass M'lang Town proper.

may airstrip sa M'lang diba? working na ba yon? that would be of great help for the people of North Cotabato and Kidapawan city including digos city.

Please just mind GES na lang... matina used to have an airstrip but was long gone. (the runway traverses the current Acacia street actually and the apron was the back field of Ateneo de Davao) so please just mind GES na lang... BTW.. Davao airport or the SASA airfield was present way before world war II... Same goes with the Matina airfield. it was the staging area for attacks. kaya nga binomba ang Davao/sasa/matina airfield almost simultaneously with Manila because of the airfield present there. And right after the war, Sasa airfield (the current DVO int'l) became a commercial aviation airfield and was viable... Hindi nga kailangan magtapakan...hindi naman kasi talaga kailangan because historically, it is viable..no need to transfer yet.

Now, what would you feel if I say it is better to put GES in Koronadal? Your idea of transferring dVO to Asuncion is the same as the idea of transferring GES to Marbel... lol...

so my eternal suggestion to you is: Just be happy that GES is getting better, attracting more flights and passengers. Huwag mo nang sisihin if you feel that the GES growth is stunted because may katabing DVO... Matagal ng established ang DVO sa site nito even when GES ay nasa Buayan pa....
Yes, matagal na ang DVO sa location nito ngayon...but you have to consider that Davao City is getting bigger. You cannot really compromise the safety and improvement of the city just because ayaw nyong ilipat sa ibang lugar na mas ligtas ang airport.

Just think of what happened to HKIA. yun lang yon...a safer air traffic. dapat nga sa samal island yan ilipat...but since ang dami pang kailangang i-accomplish like the bridge...mas mabuti pang doon na lang sa norte ilipat when the time comes. at ngayon ay may mga indications nang kailangan na ng expansion kasi nga dumadami na ang flights.

Admit it, suya lang ka sa DVO kaya gusto mo ito malayo pa norte ug wala nay laing rason pa..

;87275537']Admit it, suya lang ka sa DVO kaya gusto mo ito malayo pa norte ug wala nay laing rason pa..

:? You can say what you want to say. I wont bar it.
I should know, because I have lived in Davao for 7 years. I know what the city is dreaming to become in this island of promise...and I don't have anything against it for as long as nothing is being compromised...if you know what I mean.

may airstrip sa M'lang diba? working na ba yon? that would be of great help for the people of North Cotabato and Kidapawan city including digos city.

He was asking a question on how to get to M'lang from Gensan, not anything else.

He was asking a question on how to get to M'lang from Gensan, not anything else.

suplado mo naman. what for? :lol: di ko naman sinasagot ang tanong nya eh. at alam kong nasagot mo na yon. :nuts:
Ngayon, kung taga M'lang sya ay pwede nyang sagotin ang tanong ko. or kung may alam ka, pwede ring ikaw ang sumagot. :)

:? You can say what you want to say. I wont bar it.
I should know, because I have lived in Davao for 7 years. I know what the city is dreaming to become in this island of promise...and I don't have anything against it for as long as nothing is being compromised...if you know what I mean.

The only thing that is being compromised (in your eyes) is GES traffic growth being stymied by DVO.Your wish for DVO to be transferred to Davao del Norte does not have anything to do with Davao City's growth..Magpakatotoo ka

;87277116']The only thing that is being compromised (in your eyes) is GES traffic growth being stymied by DVO.Your wish for DVO to be transferred to Davao del Norte does not have anything to do with Davao City's growth..Magpakatotoo ka

There is. :) :okay: Not only Davao City, but the entire Davao Region (Metro Davao) as a whole.
Magpakatotoo ko? kanus-a ba ko nagpaka plastik? :lol:
and after all this time, Ikaw ang naay dapat i-admit.

...:ohno:

yeah right..

;87277357']yeah right..

:) okay then, time to patch up.

There are L300 vans at Bulaong Bus terminal that serve Gensan-M'lang or Gensan-Carmen Cotabato. Kidapawan-bound L300 vans by-pass M'lang Town proper.

Ahhhh...Im more comfy with buses than vans. So I usually take the bus. So from GES what would you take to go to the bus terminal? and how long does it take for a bus from Gen San to M'lang?...tenk yu:banana:

^^ From GES, you can ride a taxi going directly to Bulaong Terminal where buses and vans are available. As far as i know there's no bus route going to M'lang? :dunno:.. Vans do have the route.

^^ From GES, you can ride a taxi going directly to Bulaong Terminal where buses and vans are available. As far as i know there's no bus route going to M'lang? :dunno:.. Vans do have the route.

All land transportation going to provinces are stationed at the bulaong terminal. :)

Ahhhh...Im more comfy with buses than vans. So I usually take the bus. So from GES what would you take to go to the bus terminal? and how long does it take for a bus from Gen San to M'lang?...tenk yu:banana:

There are no bus lines going to M'lang directly from Gensan. Vans are the only ones going directly there. If you like to take a bus, then better take a bus bound for Marbel, then to Tacurong. In Tacurong, there are buses bound for Davao and Cagayan de Oro (later is with Rural). However, Rural only has once or twice a day frequency while L300 vans ply regularly.

Here is a more comprehensive guide on how to get out of Gensan Airport. (http://habagatcentral.com/2011/06/07/how-to-get-in-and-out-of-gensan-airport/)
Tell manong drayber at multicab to drop u off at Bulaong Bus Terminal.
Same principle applies if u prefer habal-habal, but more expensive but cheaper than taxi.
There is also an airport shuttle for downtown there. Ask them if they can let you be dropped off at Bulaong.

^^
dapat talaga ang YBL, Holiday or Husky should apply for a regular route from Sot. Cot. towns directly to GSIA. This way, mas magiging easy ang transit ng mga passengers coming from South Cotabato.

^^
dapat talaga ang YBL, Holiday or Husky should apply for a regular route from Sot. Cot. towns directly to GSIA. This way, mas magiging easy ang transit ng mga passengers coming from South Cotabato.
Question is, how profitable is it for them?
Yun ngang multicab na GSIA-Dadiangas di pa maimplement ng maayos, yun pa kayang bus? Lets have LTFRB allow multicabs to serve this underserved area before we make any bold moves on carrying bus lines at GSIA.

Question is, how profitable is it for them?
Yun ngang multicab na GSIA-Dadiangas di pa maimplement ng maayos, yun pa kayang bus? Lets have LTFRB allow multicabs to serve this underserved area before we make any bold moves on carrying bus lines at GSIA.

huwag ka naman masyadong pesimistic. Of course it will be viable. May iba pa bang airport na nilalapagan ang mga taga south cotabato? :)
Bakit pa natin antayin ma-establish ang multicab route kung pwede naman nating pagsabayin i-establish ang BUS at Multicabs...

1. Multicabs for budget GenSan pax
2. Buses for South Cotabato pax
3. Taxis for GenSan and Sarangani pax.

Chakto lang bern di ba? alangan naman mag demand agad tayo ng LRT. Lets use na muna what comfortable and affordable mode of transport are available for the general public.

ito ang dapat ayusin din ng CAAP at LTFRB.

huwag ka naman masyadong pesimistic. Of course it will be viable. May iba pa bang airport na nilalapagan ang mga taga south cotabato? :)
Bakit pa natin antayon ma-establish ang multicab route kung pwede naman nating pagsabayin i-establish ang BUS at Multicabs...

1. Multicabs for budget GenSan pax
2. Buses for South Cotabato pax
3. Taxis for GenSan and Sarangani pax.

Chakto lang bern di ba?

ito ang dapat ayusin din ng CAAP at LTFRB.
I'm not being pessimistic. I'm just being pragmatic and practical if I am in the shoes of Mr. Yap.

I'm not being pessimistic. I'm just being pragmatic and practical if I am in the shoes of Mr. Yap.
what do you think of my proposal for a transport system to and from the airport?

what I was thinking of with my idea of an efficient provincial transport system to and from GSIA is the easement of transit of these provincial passengers. Money gains will just follow since this is a NEED.

Biskan Marbel lang anay nga bus route, dako gid na nga bulig para sa mga passengers.

Before Cebu Pacific and AirPhilExpress came in at Gensan, how many flights were there?

After PAL's closure in 1998, 2 daily flights lang..

PR 454 for Manila
2P 772 for Cebu

:)

After PAL's closure in 1998, 2 daily flights lang..

PR 454 for Manila
2P 772 for Cebu

:)

dark days of GES.

^^ From GES, you can ride a taxi going directly to Bulaong Terminal where buses and vans are available. As far as i know there's no bus route going to M'lang? :dunno:.. Vans do have the route.
There are no bus lines going to M'lang directly from Gensan. Vans are the only ones going directly there. If you like to take a bus, then better take a bus bound for Marbel, then to Tacurong. In Tacurong, there are buses bound for Davao and Cagayan de Oro (later is with Rural). However, Rural only has once or twice a day frequency while L300 vans ply regularly.

Here is a more comprehensive guide on how to get out of Gensan Airport. (http://habagatcentral.com/2011/06/07/how-to-get-in-and-out-of-gensan-airport/)
Tell manong drayber at multicab to drop u off at Bulaong Bus Terminal.
Same principle applies if u prefer habal-habal, but more expensive but cheaper than taxi.
There is also an airport shuttle for downtown there. Ask them if they can let you be dropped off at Bulaong.

aaaaah....:ohno:....well no choice if its a van, then a van it is...thanks guys :banana:

24-hours ba ang operation ng control tower ng GenSan? Kasi kanina 0456H naka pag push back na ang 2P 989 ng MNL and 0515H ang 5J 991... kasi di naman db makakakuha ng clearance for push back ang flight unless may contact na sa tower ng destination.. Baka as early as 0400H may contact sa sila sa GenSan kasi maaga dn nakapag boarding....

BTW, gate 118 kanina ang 2P 989 and gate 119 ang 5J 991 sa NAIA 3. Boarding na ang airphil nung kaka reposition pa lang ng a/c para sa 5J 991... la lang hehe

24-hours ba ang operation ng control tower ng GenSan? Kasi kanina 0456H naka pag push back na ang 2P 989 ng MNL and 0515H ang 5J 991... kasi di naman db makakakuha ng clearance for push back ang flight unless may contact na sa tower ng destination.. Baka as early as 0400H may contact sa sila sa GenSan kasi maaga dn nakapag boarding....

BTW, gate 118 kanina ang 2P 989 and gate 119 ang 5J 991 sa NAIA 3. Boarding na ang airphil nung kaka reposition pa lang ng a/c para sa 5J 991... la lang hehe

baka nga 24hrs ang operation ng control tower. kasi international airport naman ang classification ng GES. so anytime baka may mag land or emergancy landing na foreign aircraft or baka may mga private jets from abroad na mag land.

Sana may after sunset nang flights sa GES.

aaaaah....:ohno:....well no choice if its a van, then a van it is...thanks guys :banana:
All right. Any questions regarding Cotabato or Soccsksargen, please PM me or the guys here. We'll be glad to help you out. :yes:

what do you think of my proposal for a transport system to and from the airport?

what I was thinking of with my idea of an efficient provincial transport system to and from GSIA is the easement of transit of these provincial passengers. Money gains will just follow since this is a NEED.

Biskan Marbel lang anay nga bus route, dako gid na nga bulig para sa mga passengers.
IMO, I still want to keep PUBs out of GSIA, except for airport shuttle service. Because not all of the passengers are bound for South Cotabato, some are in Sarangani, some in Gensan only, some beyond S.Cot such as SK, Cot and southern Davao del Sur. That is why, it is more efficient, practical and less costly for operations if we have a route devoted specifically for Dadiangas-Bulaong-GSIA route. Since flights are still not round the clock, passengers vary and not all of them will take public transport (naay mosugat sa ilaha or maghatod), malulugi ang operations ni bus operator.

Imagine, I'm paying my driver a whole day but he only got several passengers to pay for the expense I invested. Di pa makakaabot ng break-even.

Also, it is better to have a hub like Bulaong Terminal. It was these provincial terminals that make provincial cities more organised than the chronic issues of Manila (bus terminals everywhere).

IMO, I still want to keep PUBs out of GSIA, except for airport shuttle service. Because not all of the passengers are bound for South Cotabato, some are in Sarangani, some in Gensan only, some beyond S.Cot such as SK, Cot and southern Davao del Sur. That is why, it is more efficient, practical and less costly for operations if we have a route devoted specifically for Dadiangas-Bulaong-GSIA route. Since flights are still not round the clock, passengers vary and not all of them will take public transport (naay mosugat sa ilaha or maghatod), malulugi ang operations ni bus operator.

Imagine, I'm paying my driver a whole day but he only got several passengers to pay for the expense I invested. Di pa makakaabot ng break-even.

Also, it is better to have a hub like Bulaong Terminal. It was these provincial terminals that make provincial cities more organised than the chronic issues of Manila (bus terminals everywhere).

:dunno: with how you see it, but that is your opinion.

For me the transport proposal is the most viable for the time being when GSIA is still gaining momentum.

with this proposal:
1. Multicabs for budget GenSan passengers (plying GSIA-Downtown-Bulaong v.v.)
2. Buses for South Cotabato passengers (will also stop over Polomolok and Tupi towns when traveling back from airport to marbel)
3. Taxis for GenSan and Sarangani passengers.

Koronadal will serve as a hub for land transport going to GSIA and v.v. for passengers coming from towns beyond South Cotabato or Marbel such as Tacurong, Surallah, Banga, T'boli, Lake Sebu and so on.

Hindi malulugi ang bus operator nyan ah. He will just have to coordinate constantly of the flight sechedules at GSIA so that he can set properly the travel time from Koronadal City to arrive in GSIA 2hours ahead of the flight schedules.

Notice that the nagkakasabay-sabay naman ang mga flight schedules ng mga airlines sa GES di ba? Like 5j and 2p, and 5j and PR... So i think hindi malulugi ang operator nito. Ma-iibsan pa ang mga kolorum na mga transport operators at wala nang reason ang mga taxi drivers na mag abuso sa pag charge.:bash::ohno:

ang air travel kasi ngayon ay hindi na katulad noong unang mga panahon na luxury sya...ngayon kasi almost everyone can afford to fly. but not all can afford a taxi ride.

chakto lang gid ang transport proposal.

^^ why not, padaghanon na lang ang taxis sa Gensan?? In fairness mas ok gyud unta kung taxis na lang kay sa ka-init sa Gensan, mas comfortable jud siya.. every quarter I go home, and it's so sad nga because gamay ra ang taxis, usually they rip you off sa fare... :ohno: :ohno:

^^ why not, padaghanon na lang ang taxis sa Gensan?? In fairness mas ok gyud unta kung taxis na lang kay sa ka-init sa Gensan, mas comfortable jud siya.. every quarter I go home, and it's so sad nga because gamay ra ang taxis, usually they rip you off sa fare... :ohno: :ohno:

mao pud gyud...kaso patyon man sa mga trikes ang taxi. kanang imo @earlat kay long term solution kana and it takes so much time to achieve. In the mean time, kining tatlo jud ang madali og provide to solve the transport problem from GES to the provinces and v.v.

1. Multicabs for budget GenSan passengers (regular route plying GSIA-Downtown-Bulaong v.v.)
2. Buses for South Cotabato passengers (regular route, will also stop over Polomolok and Tupi towns when traveling back from airport to marbel)
3. Taxis for GenSan and Sarangani passengers.

Airphil Express Airbus A320-214 (Registration: RP-C8395) Test Flight
January 7, 2012

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:smug:

24-hours ba ang operation ng control tower ng GenSan? Kasi kanina 0456H naka pag push back na ang 2P 989 ng MNL and 0515H ang 5J 991... kasi di naman db makakakuha ng clearance for push back ang flight unless may contact na sa tower ng destination.. Baka as early as 0400H may contact sa sila sa GenSan kasi maaga dn nakapag boarding....

BTW, gate 118 kanina ang 2P 989 and gate 119 ang 5J 991 sa NAIA 3. Boarding na ang airphil nung kaka reposition pa lang ng a/c para sa 5J 991... la lang hehe

Pilots do not contact Tambler tower kung nagpupush back na siya. They get clearance from Manila Tower. The Manila tower then gives the assigned flight level (altitude) and airway to the airlines departing, Whiskey 6 for planes bound for GES for instance.

After an hour, planes will contact Mactan Control for clearance sa descend then Mactan Control will relay it to GES. First contact from Mactan to Tambler Tower is approximately an hour before the ETA. First contact ng pilots sa Tambler Tower is usually mga 6:15AM or later, that's the time na iha-hand over na ng Mactan Tower ang control sa GES air traffic controllers.

I hope I made myself clear with this. Believe me, my uncle's an air traffic controller here in DVO. And that's how things work. :)

Hindi malulugi ang bus operator nyan ah. He will just have to coordinate constantly of the flight sechedules at GSIA so that he can set properly the travel time from Koronadal City to arrive in GSIA 2hours ahead of the flight schedules.
Compute operating expenses, waiting time and number of passengers that will ride a direct Koronadal Express of Yellow Bus (for example)...


Notice that the nagkakasabay-sabay naman ang mga flight schedules ng mga airlines sa GES di ba? Like 5j and 2p, and 5j and PR... So i think hindi malulugi ang operator nito. Ma-iibsan pa ang mga kolorum na mga transport operators at wala nang reason ang mga taxi drivers na mag abuso sa pag charge.:bash::ohno:
The question is, how's the ROI, how much are they going to pay vis-a-vis with the fuel, employee payment?

Second, will all those riding the aircraft will ride the bus for South Cotabato direct? In my experience, it took us a long time to fill in. Most of the people there have sugat/sundo.

Compute operating expenses, waiting time and number of passengers that will ride a direct Koronadal Express of Yellow Bus (for example)...

The question is, how's the ROI, how much are they going to pay vis-a-vis with the fuel, employee payment?

Second, will all those riding the aircraft will ride the bus for South Cotabato direct? In my experience, it took us a long time to fill in. Most of the people there have sugat/sundo.

Bern as I have said previously, kung sadto ang mag air travel is only for the few who can afford but now indi na gid. Siling gani sang 5j di bala? "Everyone can fly." Bus travel schedule should coordinate with that of the flight schedules of the airlines para timing lang gid ang abot kag lakat with enough time para maka embark kag disembark.

Ang iban nga waay salakyan indi na lang ka hatod-sundo sang ila nga mga palangga kay bangud waay sang transport nga mag hatod sa ila direct sa airport. kon ma biyahe sila thru crossing makar dason ma taxi duman pa airport tam-an gid kamahal ang gastos. mayad gid nga may direct bus route na from south cotabato to GSIA. ang i-consider dira para sa route bern kay ang mga pasahero sang airplanes kag ang mga ga hatod-sundo. times two gid at the minimum ang kadamoon sang passengers sina nga route.

Madasig gid ROI sina Bern. Pabal-i lang bugos nga banwa sang sina nga route.

Pilots do not contact Tambler tower kung nagpupush back na siya. They get clearance from Manila Tower. The Manila tower then gives the assigned flight level (altitude) and airway to the airlines departing, Whiskey 6 for planes bound for GES for instance.

After an hour, planes will contact Mactan Control for clearance sa descend then Mactan Control will relay it to GES. First contact from Mactan to Tambler Tower is approximately an hour before the ETA. First contact ng pilots sa Tambler Tower is usually mga 6:15AM or later, that's the time na iha-hand over na ng Mactan Tower ang control sa GES air traffic controllers.

I hope I made myself clear with this. Believe me, my uncle's an air traffic controller here in DVO. And that's how things work. :)

thanks for that clarification. By the way, the airport in GES should not be called "Tambler Airport" because it is baseless and misleading. The airport is situated in Brgy. Fatima and not in Brgy. Tambler. hence, should be "Fatima Tower" for the call.

Bern as I have said previously, kung sadto ang mag air travel is only for the few who can afford but now indi na gid. Siling gani sang 5j di bala? "Everyone can fly." Bus travel schedule should coordinate with that of the flight schedules of the airlines para timing lang gid ang abot kag lakat with enough time para maka embark kag disembark.

Ang iban nga waay salakyan indi na lang ka hatod-sundo sang ila nga mga palangga kay bangud waay sang transport nga mag hatod sa ila direct sa airport. kon ma biyahe sila thru crossing makar dason ma taxi duman pa airport tam-an gid kamahal ang gastos. mayad gid nga may direct bus route na from south cotabato to GSIA. ang i-consider dira para sa route bern kay ang mga pasahero sang airplanes kag ang mga ga hatod-sundo. times two gid at the minimum ang kadamoon sang passengers sina nga route.

Madasig gid ROI sina Bern. Pabal-i lang bugos nga banwa sang sina nga route.

So basically saying, would this be a "missionary route?"

MIDSEA EXPRESS will soon open the GENSAN ILOILO, GENSAN-CEBU-PALAWAN hub :okay:

magstart daw in March just like Airphil. :)

So basically saying, would this be a "missionary route?"

parang ganun na hindi. missionary in a sense na magdidipende lang ang schedule ng biyahe ng mga bus sa timetable ng mga flights sa GES. lalong lalo na yung mga galing at papuntang MNL, CEB and ILO. :)

hindi rin exactong missionary dahil regular route sya at may permit from LTFRB.

MIDSEA EXPRESS will soon open the GENSAN ILOILO, GENSAN-CEBU-PALAWAN hub :okay:

magstart daw in March just like Airphil. :)

WoW! GES-CEB-PPS v.v. is interesting! Sana mag serve din ang MIDSEA EXPRESS ng GES-CGY and GES-ZAM. :cheers::)

Pilots do not contact Tambler tower kung nagpupush back na siya. They get clearance from Manila Tower. The Manila tower then gives the assigned flight level (altitude) and airway to the airlines departing, Whiskey 6 for planes bound for GES for instance.

After an hour, planes will contact Mactan Control for clearance sa descend then Mactan Control will relay it to GES. First contact from Mactan to Tambler Tower is approximately an hour before the ETA. First contact ng pilots sa Tambler Tower is usually mga 6:15AM or later, that's the time na iha-hand over na ng Mactan Tower ang control sa GES air traffic controllers.

I hope I made myself clear with this. Believe me, my uncle's an air traffic controller here in DVO. And that's how things work. :)

As i have noticed during my travels, airplanes flying from MNL to GES always start to descend slowly upon reaching the landmass of Mindanao (just above CDO, Iligan or Ozamiz). Why will the plane have to ask for clearance from Mactan to descend when actually the aircraft is still at cruising altitude of about 30,000 ft when passing above Cebu or Negros? it certainly do not affect air traffic of MCIA down below.

thanks for that clarification. By the way, the airport in GES should not be called "Tambler Airport" because it is baseless and misleading. The airport is situated in Brgy. Fatima and not in Brgy. Tambler. hence, should be "Fatima Tower" for the call.

Whether you like it or not, it's Tambler Tower. Yan ang official call sign ng GES Tower.

Whether you like it or not, it's Tambler Tower. Yan ang official call sign ng GES Tower.

Tanggapin na ang katotohanan, Jake. 2012 na. :lol:

As i have noticed during my travels, airplanes flying from MNL to GES always start to descend slowly upon reaching the landmass of Mindanao (just above CDO, Iligan or Ozamiz). Why will the plane have to ask for clearance from Mactan to descend when actually the aircraft is still at cruising altitude of about 30,000 ft when passing above Cebu or Negros? it certainly do not affect air traffic of MCIA down below.

I think at that distance from the airport pinaka optimal ang rate ng descend na comfortable..

From my observation, the descend starts usually 30 minutes before landing..and ganun din yung level flight from takeoff

parang ganun na hindi. missionary in a sense na magdidipende lang ang schedule ng biyahe ng mga bus sa timetable ng mga flights sa GES. lalong lalo na yung mga galing at papuntang MNL, CEB and ILO. :)

hindi rin exactong missionary dahil regular route sya at may permit from LTFRB.
I suggest you ask Sir Zidlakan's opinion about it. :)

Whether you like it or not, it's Tambler Tower. Yan ang official call sign ng GES Tower.

hahaha therefore the american contractors who built that airport were successful in misleading all of you. :lol: sige, padayon lang, its your choice afterall. But im telling you, it is baseless and misleading.:bash:


Tanggapin na ang katotohanan, Jake. 2012 na. :lol:
katotohanan ka jan...KASINUNGALINGAN ka mo!

;87388788']I think at that distance from the airport pinaka optimal ang rate ng descend na comfortable..

From my observation, the descend starts usually 30 minutes before landing..and ganun din yung level flight from takeoff

Not with MNL-GES route I think. Ang sa MNL-GES na PAL flight napaka gradual ng descent nya. halos hindi dama sa loob ng cabin..starting from above northern mindanao dahan dahan ang descent nya from 30-34000 ft. by the time it reaches socsksargen nasa tamang altitude lang sya to maneuver for landing at GES. Im just not sure though if the altitude of GES has something to do with it. GES kasi is around 50-100m above sea level.

I suggest you ask Sir Zidlakan's opinion about it. :)

I hope he is lurking here. :lol::)
Teka, I am referring to the BUS route ha...hindi ang 2P flight to Iloilo.:lol:

that flight to Iloilo and Cebu cities are a much needed.

hahaha therefore the american contractors who built that airport were successful in misleading all of you. :lol: sige, padayon lang, its your choice afterall. But im telling you, it is baseless and misleading.:bash:

katotohanan ka jan...KASINUNGALINGAN ka mo!

It is called tambler kasi before fatima is part of tambler. Hinati lang yan. Tambler pa tan nung ginagawa ang airport kaya na carried over yung tambler na name.

It is called tambler kasi before fatima is part of tambler. Hinati lang yan. Tambler pa tan nung ginagawa ang airport kaya na carried over yung tambler na name.

talaga? since when pa ba naging 26 ang barangays ng GenSan? Let us check when the airport construction have started...Can anyone give enlightenment? :)

AS quoted from the USAID project Feasibility Study for the proposed General Santos airport....
wo sites were identified and designated as subalternatives: Scheme VA. Apopong/Sinav;al; and Scheme VB, Tambler (the preferred alternative). (Barangay Tambler was split into two in March 1991, and the project site is now located in Barangay Fatima; this report will continue to use the Tambler designation for consistency with earlier reports and the associated Final Report.)"

I hope he is lurking here. :lol::)
Teka, I am referring to the BUS route ha...hindi ang 2P flight to Iloilo.:lol:

that flight to Iloilo and Cebu cities are a much needed.
Actually he is. :D
We were talking about you and your proposal when we met yesterday at MCIA.
That's why I said, you should hear his side. After all, he has been working with the transport feasibility of BRT in Cebu and airport shuttle. :yes: He's the man you have to ask for when it comes to public mass transport.

It is called tambler kasi before fatima is part of tambler. Hinati lang yan. Tambler pa tan nung ginagawa ang airport kaya na carried over yung tambler na name.

Thanks for this bit of info, @riveron and @cemby. :okay:

As i have noticed during my travels, airplanes flying from MNL to GES always start to descend slowly upon reaching the landmass of Mindanao (just above CDO, Iligan or Ozamiz). Why will the plane have to ask for clearance from Mactan to descend when actually the aircraft is still at cruising altitude of about 30,000 ft when passing above Cebu or Negros? it certainly do not affect air traffic of MCIA down below.

Dalawa lang kasi ang radar control sa Pilipinas - Mactan-Cebu and Manila. That's why all planes that go to Mindanao as well as Visayas will contact Mactan control for it. Eh alangan naman sa Tambler Tower mag-aask ng clearance eh wala namang radar eh. Even here in Davao, they will always contact Mactan Control for it. Kahit palipad na ang eroplano, ililipat na ng Davao Departure ang control to Mactan-Cebu. In short relay of messages lang yan.

Pwera lang kung clearance na yan for final descent and approach procedures, that's the time when the pilots contact the tower ng kanilang destination.

Not with MNL-GES route I think. Ang sa MNL-GES na PAL flight napaka gradual ng descent nya. halos hindi dama sa loob ng cabin..starting from above northern mindanao dahan dahan ang descent nya from 30-34000 ft. by the time it reaches socsksargen nasa tamang altitude lang sya to maneuver for landing at GES. Im just not sure though if the altitude of GES has something to do with it. GES kasi is around 50-100m above sea level.

Unsa ang MNL-GES special? :lol:

Anyway mao man akong napansin most flights I have taken..descent usually starts 30 minutes before landing di lang for MNL-DVO but also sa ibang flights nasakyan ko..

;87403155']Unsa ang MNL-GES special? :lol:

Anyway mao man akong napansin most flights I have taken..descent usually starts 30 minutes before landing di lang for MNL-DVO but also sa ibang flights nasakyan ko..

ispeysial kung espeysial. :lol: kontra bida ka talaga kahit kelan. subukan mo kayang sumakay sa MNL-GES nang malaman mo. :nuts: Ay! huwag na lang, baka magtampo ang DVO mo dahil madadagdagan ang passenger stats ng karibal nya. :nuts::lol:

Dalawa lang kasi ang radar control sa Pilipinas - Mactan-Cebu and Manila. That's why all planes that go to Mindanao as well as Visayas will contact Mactan control for it. Eh alangan naman sa Tambler Tower mag-aask ng clearance eh wala namang radar eh. Even here in Davao, they will always contact Mactan Control for it. Kahit palipad na ang eroplano, ililipat na ng Davao Departure ang control to Mactan-Cebu. In short relay of messages lang yan.

Pwera lang kung clearance na yan for final descent and approach procedures, that's the time when the pilots contact the tower ng kanilang destination.

:okay: yan din naiisip ko. :)

no debate naman yan eh.... pareho lang ang sinasabi ninyo..usually it takes 30 mins traverse from Northern Mindanao to GES or DVO.... both flights start their descent once they reach northern mindanao areas. (DvO passes through Butuan, GES passes through CGY)..... pareho ring hindi napapansin sa loob ang descent....

Actually he is. :D
We were talking about you and your proposal when we met yesterday at MCIA.
That's why I said, you should hear his side. After all, he has been working with the transport feasibility of BRT in Cebu and airport shuttle. :yes: He's the man you have to ask for when it comes to public mass transport.



Thanks for this bit of info, @riveron and @cemby. :okay:

sayang, personal kasi kayong nag usap...ano raw comment nya bern? relay naman po please. :)

indeed thanks for the info bits, @riveron and @cemby.

no debate naman yan eh.... pareho lang ang sinasabi ninyo..usually it takes 30 mins traverse from Northern Mindanao to GES or DVO.... both flights start their descent once they reach northern mindanao areas. (DvO passes through Butuan, GES passes through CGY)..... pareho ring hindi napapansin sa loob ang descent....

see @Waway? umupo ka kasi sa window side at huwag kang matulog during your flight. :)

Ikaw pala di nakakaintindi Tingkoling eh..inom sa ug imong tambal..Ni agree lang man ko sa imoha sa sugod nga dira jud sa may Normin ang decent (±30 mins from landing) pero nagstorya na pud kag murag korek

Ay! huwag na lang, baka magtampo ang DVO mo dahil madadagdagan ang passenger stats ng karibal nya. :nuts::lol:
Buang lang ang nagahuna huna ug ing-ana

;87404353']Ikaw pala di nakakaintindi Tingkoling eh..inom sa ug imong tambal..Ni agree lang man ko sa imoha sa sugod nga dira jud sa may Normin ang decent (±30 mins from landing) pero nagstorya na pud kag murag korek

OO kay nitukar napod imong pagka sarcastic noh?

;87404353']Unsa ang MNL-GES special?

unya kung himuon sa imoha, 'nahan ka? :)

;87404390']Buang lang ang nagahuna huna ug ing-ana

tell that to the marines. :crazy2::crazy2::crazy2::crazy2:

see @Waway? umupo ka kasi sa window side at huwag kang matulog during your flight. :)

Akshully it all depends lang sa traffic kung anong airway ang dadaanan ng mga eroplano. May instances wherein the plane from MNL-DVO will pass Bravo 473 airway (via CGY), minsan it will pass Whiskey 9 airway (via BXU) minsan Whiskey 8 (midway CGY and BXU).

no debate naman yan eh.... pareho lang ang sinasabi ninyo..usually it takes 30 mins traverse from Northern Mindanao to GES or DVO.... both flights start their descent once they reach northern mindanao areas. (DvO passes through Butuan, GES passes through CGY)..... pareho ring hindi napapansin sa loob ang descent....

Yep, flights to DVO descend over BXU. You can see contrails of aircraft making their descent. Usually pag clear skies, I can see A330s, A320s, etc. (I think the 747 passes through a different airway) through the day while sa night, I can hear the sound of turboprops and see their strobes blinking.

Akshully it all depends lang sa traffic kung anong airway ang dadaanan ng mga eroplano. May instances wherein the plane from MNL-DVO will pass Bravo 473 airway (via CGY), minsan it will pass Whiskey 9 airway (via BXU) minsan Whiskey 8 (midway CGY and BXU).

minsan nga dumadaan ang eroplano ng MNL-GES sa ibabaw ng Ozamiz or Dipolog and they start descending from there on. Never have I experienced the plane passing above BXU. Siguro ang mga eroplano na papuntang DVO doon dumadaan sa ibabaw ng BXU.

sa mga nasakyan kong plane to and from GES, ang flight path ng mga eroplano ay dumadaan sa ibabaw ng

Marinduque
Romblon
Sibuyan
Roxas
Iloilo, Bacolod
sometimes Cebu, Bohol
Siquijor
Cdo,Iligan, Ozamiz or Dipolog
Cotabato
Koronadal

:)

Yep, flights to DVO descend over BXU. You can see contrails of aircraft making their descent. Usually pag clear skies, I can see A330s, A320s, etc. (I think the 747 passes through a different airway) through the day while sa night, I can hear the sound of turboprops and see their strobes blinking.

really? :)

dito naman sa amin sa GenSan may naririnig at nakikita din akong malalaking eroplanong dumadaan sa bandang hapon, though malayo but can see somehow....probably these are planes going to Australia or New Zealand from hongkong, manila or taiwan. Minsan, I can spot an A380 cruising above...super huge ang wings at livery. :)

To Jake:
Magreklamo ka sa pamamalakad ng Cebu Pacific sa Gensan...
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390233_2864895333804_1002379363_3019950_275848693_n.jpg

:nocrook:

To Jake:
Magreklamo ka sa pamamalakad ng Cebu Pacific sa Gensan...
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390233_2864895333804_1002379363_3019950_275848693_n.jpg

:nocrook:

:?Bern, indi nako mag usik usik sang panahon putting up with 5j ah...5j na lang? Lihog lang beh...:yawn: pro inferness, namit! ha ha ha daw ka ben affleck lang sang batan-on pa sya. :hahaha:

Ang 2P waay nag usik usik sang panahon kag opportunity. chakto gid na. :cheers: More power to 2P!!!:banana::)

^^ Ang diin manamit aw? :lol:

^^ Ang diin manamit aw? :lol:

kusi-on taka karon...:lol::nuts::lol:

namit ya. I remember someone. hahaha
"More Fun in Cebu Pacific"???? weh

really? :)

dito naman sa amin sa GenSan may naririnig at nakikita din akong malalaking eroplanong dumadaan sa bandang hapon, though malayo but can see somehow....probably these are planes going to Australia or New Zealand from hongkong, manila or taiwan. Minsan, I can spot an A380 cruising above...super huge ang wings at livery. :)

That's Romeo 342 airway, planes from the south to either Hongkong or Japan. Although these passing aircraft do not make contacts to the towers though. :)

That's Romeo 342 airway, planes from the south to either Hongkong or Japan. Although these passing aircraft do not make contacts to the towers though. :)

So naka silent mode pala ang mga pilots when passing through this airway :lol:

That's Romeo 342 airway, planes from the south to either Hongkong or Japan. Although these passing aircraft do not make contacts to the towers though. :)

most likely they do not contact fatima tower because they are cruising 34k ft above. also, when a plane from MNL-GES is cruising above CEB they also do not contact the mactan tower...IMO...

So naka silent mode pala ang mga pilots when passing through this airway :lol:

or naka ignore mode ang tower. :lol:

or naka ignore mode ang tower. :lol:

:rofl: :hilarious ^^

most likely they do not contact fatima tower because they are cruising 34k ft above. also, when a plane from MNL-GES is cruising above CEB they also do not contact the mactan tower...IMO...

once they are in the visayas mindanao airspace they are in contact with mactan center. they are only transferred to tambler/fatima (whatever)tower when they are on approach to GES.

really? :)

dito naman sa amin sa GenSan may naririnig at nakikita din akong malalaking eroplanong dumadaan sa bandang hapon, though malayo but can see somehow....probably these are planes going to Australia or New Zealand from hongkong, manila or taiwan. Minsan, I can spot an A380 cruising above...super huge ang wings at livery. :)

A380 jud? hahahahahaha.....:lol:

once they are in the visayas mindanao airspace they are in contact with mactan center. they are only transferred to tambler/fatima (whatever)tower when they are on approach to GES.

thanks! I'm further enlightened. :)

most likely they do not contact fatima tower because they are cruising 34k ft above. also, when a plane from MNL-GES is cruising above CEB they also do not contact the mactan tower...IMO...

so that you will not be confused, reread this ...

Dalawa lang kasi ang radar control sa Pilipinas - Mactan-Cebu and Manila. That's why all planes that go to Mindanao as well as Visayas will contact Mactan control for it. Eh alangan naman sa Tambler Tower mag-aask ng clearance eh wala namang radar eh. Even here in Davao, they will always contact Mactan Control for it. Kahit palipad na ang eroplano, ililipat na ng Davao Departure ang control to Mactan-Cebu. In short relay of messages lang yan.

Pwera lang kung clearance na yan for final descent and approach procedures, that's the time when the pilots contact the tower ng kanilang destination.

also, try to understand the difference between airport control, approach and
terminal control, and area control.

mactan has all three, each at different floors in the tower, and independent
of each other. control is passed from one control center to another depen-
ding on the A/C's location in their respective areas (distance from the center)
which means, from one floor to another. they have different sets of air
traffic controllers, too.

by the way, the air traffic control (ATC) image we usually see in the movies,
is the airport control and that's only 5 -10 nautical miles from the airport.

A380 jud? hahahahahaha.....:lol:

I should know its an A380. :) I have seen an A380 from below during its maiden flight in the mideast. and several times therein after. I call it the flying fat bird. :lol:

so that you will not be confused, reread this ...



also, try to understand the difference between airport control, approach and
terminal control, and area control.

mactan has all three, each at different floors in the tower, and independent
of each other. control is passed from one control center to another depen-
ding on the A/C's location in their respective areas (distance from the center)
which means, from one floor to another. they have different sets of air
traffic controllers, too.

by the way, the air traffic control (ATC) image we usually see in the movies,
is the airport control and that's only 5 -10 nautical miles from the airport.

:okay: many thanks indeed, sir!.

so it means to say that a/c's cruising above the philippine airspace are guided by controllers manning the "Area Control"?
Sir, do you know this famous actor Ian Veneracion? I heard he is a controller...

I should know its an A380. :) I have seen an A380 from below during its maiden flight in the mideast. and several times therein after. I call it the flying fat bird. :lol:

so i guess you have eagle eyes then. the last flight i had on the A380, we were cruising FL410 (41,000 feet) enroute to Sydney from Singapore.

so i guess you have eagle eyes then. the last flight i had on the A380, we were cruising FL410 (41,000 feet) enroute to Sydney from Singapore.

I believe a/c flying from Sydney to Sg do not pass over GenSan. :)

I wish I can be aboard A380 one day. :)

perhaps sir Zidlakan can confirm if there are indeed A380s cruising over the philippine airspace enroute to australia...or I may be wrong thinking its n A380 when its actually just a 747. but that plane I saw is really fat.

http://www.airphilexpress.com/images/ads/express-sale-01121.gif
:banana:

naa na jud diay GES TO ILO... sure na jud diay ni....

naa na jud diay GES TO ILO... sure na jud diay ni....

ang mga magpa-boracay madali na lang magkadto didto...ma bus na lang sila pa caticlan from iloilo.

most likely they do not contact fatima tower because they are cruising 34k ft above. also, when a plane from MNL-GES is cruising above CEB they also do not contact the mactan tower...IMO...
Airways management is like controlling highways in the skys under specific Air Route Traffic Controls. These ARTCs are already advised before hand by each airlines flight dispatch. The aircraft is just passed on from one ARTC to another. Pilots have to report their position as they enter and leave. Therefore, any unidentified aircraft or one deviated from the flight path abruptly without contact will trigger an alarm to controllers. Altitude and bearing is critical. Like what happened to that Greek airline that experienced fatal decompression leaving a single cabin attendant able to briefly seat on the cockpit since the pilots were all unconscious. Airforce jets were scrambled immediately to do a visual since the aircraft didn't make any contact( Greece has F-16s), the Philippines none.

^^
I used to think that air spaces are like a freeway. :) once airborne, you can move just anywhere and everywhere. lol

^^
I used to think that air spaces are like a freeway. :) once airborne, you can move just anywhere and everywhere. lol

That was before, until that tragic event near Grand Canyon that triggered the use of radars and airways. Hence, mid-air collisions are rare (but possible, like what happened in India and Brasil).

kusi-on taka karon...:lol::nuts::lol:

namit ya. I remember someone. hahaha
"More Fun in Cebu Pacific"???? weh

Depends on what kind of fun are you looking at. ;) :naughty: :nocrook:

Depends on what kind of fun are you looking at. ;) :naughty: :nocrook:

:lol: you ha...:naughty: I'm remembering someone not because of that kind of fun but seriously, that photo makes me remember someone in the past who is special. wasted mode. ha ha ha

"DOTC to CAAP execs: Explain extort rap"

DOTC undersecretary for operations Rafael Antonio M. Santos, in a letter, asked CAAP director general Ramon S. Gutierrez, assistant director general Elmer Peña of the Flight Standard Inspectorate Service (FSIS) and one of his subordinates, Bienvenido Gonzales, to explain allegation of extortion last year from pilot license applicants from the Aviation Institute of General Santos (AIGS).

more here (http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/national/21476-dotc-to-caap-execs-explain-extort-rap).

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403100_308403825864043_112419285462499_800889_1112518419_n.jpg

Iloilo - GenSan

Sana may GES-BCD rin every T-TH ang airphil express! :)

Notice the fare difference of MNL-DVO and MNL-GES?
Kahit mamasahe ka pa papuntang DVO at Php 255 (premiere class bus). sigh!!!..the convenience of more choices, frequency-wise (night flights in particular) is only there in DVO, while they are leaving GES with no flight schedule at late afternoon or evening. kahit isang flight lang sa gabi MNL-GES ay wala???...there you go...

http://i.imgur.com/iiOxg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7vaYJ.jpg

:ohno: are they at it again???
see here (http://www.cebupacificair.com/flights-and-fares/year-rounds-fares.html) and here (http://www.airphilexpress.com/year-round-promo.php)
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PAL, on the other hand, has the right fare for both their MNL-DVO and MNL-GES routes with the difference of only Php 100 compared to Php 300 from these LCC's.

http://i.imgur.com/W8xx3.jpg
see here (http://www.philippineairlines.com/home/home.jsp)

although PAL has only 1 daily flight to GES, at least they observe proper fare for both DVO and GES...the distance between two airports is only less than 200 km...why such a huge difference of fare from the LCC's???...:ohno::ohno::ohno: this is not right...

By the way, I hope PAL will mount additional daily frequency using A320 (night time preferable).

Sana may GES-BCD rin every T-TH ang airphil express! :)
:okay::okay::okay: I wish to visit the Tuna Heaven (General Santos City) soon but I also want to segway first to my hometown Bacólod City before proceeding there. I just hope your wish will be granted since I also wish for the same. :cheers:

Notice the fare difference of MNL-DVO and MNL-GES?
Kahit mamasahe ka pa papuntang DVO at Php 255 (premiere class bus). sigh!!!..the convenience of more choices, frequency-wise (night flights in particular) is only there in DVO, while they are leaving GES with no flight schedule at late afternoon or evening. kahit isang flight lang sa gabi MNL-GES ay wala???...there you go...

http://i.imgur.com/iiOxg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7vaYJ.jpg

:ohno: are they at it again???
see here (http://www.cebupacificair.com/flights-and-fares/year-rounds-fares.html) and here (http://www.airphilexpress.com/year-round-promo.php)
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PAL, on the other hand, has the right fare for both their MNL-DVO and MNL-GES routes with the difference of only Php 100 compared to Php 300 from these LCC's.

http://i.imgur.com/W8xx3.jpg
see here (http://www.philippineairlines.com/home/home.jsp)

although PAL has only 1 daily flight to GES, at least they observe proper fare for both DVO and GES...the distance between two airports is only less than 200 km...why such a huge difference of fare from the LCC's???...:ohno::ohno::ohno: this is not right...

By the way, I hope PAL will mount additional daily frequency using A320 (night time preferable).

a bit of advice. instead of pouring out your frustrations here in this forum, why don't you take your "crusade" to the airlines you are questioning. that way you can get the 'answers" you are craving.

I wish to visit the Tuna Heaven (General Santos City) soon but I also want to segway first to my hometown Bacólod City before proceeding there. I just hope your wish will be granted since I also wish for the same.
Gani man, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for GES-BCD route. :)
Bisan Q400 lang anay nga aircraft gamiton nila.

a bit of advice. instead of pouring out your frustrations here in this forum, why don't you take your "crusade" to the airlines you are questioning. that way you can get the 'answers" you are craving.

This concern do get their way... this is my own simple way.

thank you for your advice, anyway. :)

This concern do get their way... this is my own simple way.

thank you for your advice, anyway. :)

just email their marketing department. i am sure they will take notice.

just email their marketing department. i am sure they will take notice.
I just show it here for the whole world to know what I was clamoring about why GES has poor passenger statistics.
That these airlines, especially LCC's, do not give GES a well distributed flight frequency during the entire day (from morning til night time) and not to mention the price differences of fare between DVO and GES where you can save as mush as the amount it costs someone to travel comfortably by bus to DVO.

Sa ngayon, sufficient na ang flights from MNL to GES pero tinambak naman lahat ng schedule sa umaga...:ohno::ohno: this is definitely not right.

And when I say "sa ngayon", sa ngayong needs lang of the present time...of course demand will definitely grow from now on and airlines should pay close attention to these needs and demands...

I just show it here for the whole world to know what I was clamoring about why GES has poor passenger statistics.
That these airlines, especially LCC's, do not give GES a well distributed flight frequency during the entire day (from morning til night time) and not to mention the price differences of fare between DVO and GES where you can save as mush as the amount it costs someone to travel comfortably by bus to DVO.

How can all the airline companies offer more frequency when there is not enough market to justify it? What you see in the terminal as you walk around it does not represent the actual passenger statistics stated in the airport's official record. I suggest for you to pull a copy of that official record so you could gauge if your claim would co-incide with the GES official census.

How can all the airline companies offer more frequency when there is not enough market to justify it? What you see in the terminal as you walk around it does not represent the actual passenger statistics stated in the airport's official record. I suggest for you to pull a copy of that official record so you could gauge if your claim would co-incide with the GES official census.

There were additional flights added lately, but the thing is these airlines put all the flights in the morning time...they should spread it out evenly in the morning, afternoon and night time.

There were additional flights added lately, but the thing is these airlines put all the flights in the morning time...they should spread it out evenly in the morning, afternoon and night time.

Same analogy, demands and market. A stat of clients inquiring and even purchasing tickets. My best guess is that, because of shipments, most especially Tuna fish shipments are usually sent out early in the morning. That is what the market calls for the number of frequencies added. It seems that freights are more profitable to them than commercial passengers itself. Perhaps, they experience more passengers during early morning hours than the rest of the day.

Same analogy, demands and market. A stat of clients inquiring and even purchasing tickets. My best guess is that, because of shipments, most especially Tuna fish shipments are usually sent out early in the morning. The market proves to be more profitable for all the airline companies. It seems that freights are more profitable to them than commercial passengers itself. Perhaps, they experience more passengers during early morning hours than the rest of the days.
these airlines should not make "tuna excuses". sinong niloloko nila??..these tunas are shipped in frozen or canned state.

PAL alone suffices all the cargo needs for tuna shipments using their big birds A330/A340 or B747...these LCC's, on the other hand, are making alibis out of this "tuna shipment" in order to build up further another airport nearby. :ohno:

As you can see, the pricing is clustered with the market..GES is just isnt in the same league as Davao, Cagayan and Zamboanga in profitability hence they cannot offer the same competitive pricing for GES..Thats the hard truth..tunla

;87718982']As you can see, the pricing is clustered with the market..GES is just isnt in the same league as Davao, Cagayan and Zamboanga in profitability hence they cannot offer the same competitive pricing for GES..Thats the hard truth..tunla
Dont tell me these airlines are at losing edge here in SOCCSKSARGEN?

What Im pointing out here is a well spread flight schedules and a correct fare to avoid passengers from this region to using DVO just because they don't have a choice.
--this exodus of passengers from GES to DVO is making the former's passengers stats poor! kung kaya tinawag na "Nakawan ng pasahero"...

They may not be losing..But GES just isnt as important a market to them as the other three Mindanao destinations kaya ganun.. deal with it