Anyone have pictures of Red Deer? there seems to be a lack of them and from the looks of it, it has a decent looking downtown area.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1381/634916695_f583ab95dc_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1046/634915793_20c5bbb35e_b.jpg

ONe day, they'll start constructing that 12-storey office building we've been waiting for.

12??!?!?! :eek:

They go that high!!?

I have to admit that I found Red Deer to be a bit of a dump especially compared to Lethbridge or Medicine Hat.
Lethbridge is a beautiful not-so-little city.

12??!?!?! :eek:

They go that high!!?

It's a city of 90,000. What do you expect?

The city itself is not impressive but to me it does have a little charm to it. I have a few cousins living there as well as my grandmother.

I wish my city had a 12 storey office building. The tallest is 8.

The tallest building there is the hospital at 8 stories high, I think. I think I might be off a storey or two there.

That's a bit short for a city of 90,000 though. We reached 8 storeys at 13,000 in 1913. :)

IN first build-up craze before 1930, Red Deer only had a population of 1,500 or so. By the time the second world-wide build-up craze hit the 70's, Red Deer built it's hospital. We're in the new craze and Red Deer is dreaming big.

What about the Capri Hotel? Thats over 8 stories.

Oh, I wouldn't actually know how tall the buildings there. I don't really ever go to downtown Red Deer. I only zip through it to get to a senior's residence there.

Red deer is 90,000 people ? I didnt know that .

Faster growing than Lethbridge, I believe. It will become it's own CMA in a couple years.

Ya I just drive by it so im not sure but I think its around 14. I also saw a pretty big apartment that looked like it could be taller than that but i just saw it from a distance but i dunno.

Faster growing than Lethbridge, I believe. It will become it's own CMA in a couple years.


It will be much longer than that.... I believe StatsCan requires a minimum pop. of 150,000 before an area gets counted as a CMA.

No it requires a minimum population of the largest municipality to be 100,000.

When you consider the number of building over 10 stories in Nanaimo or Kamloops that have the same population, Red Deer ios pretty pathetic.

Thunder Bay has 5. :)

That's all.

Five.

Of course, Thunder Bay and Red Deer aren't full of old people that like living in shitty architecture.

*Oh no I di'int!! *snap snap**

Red Deer has the same demographic age wise as Edmonton. Most industry there is fueled by agriculture and by the oil refineries at Joffre. There is also a burgeoning industrial expansion there as many fabrication shops have opened there.

Edit - I should also mention the water issues at Red Deer. The Red Deer River is about as large as Calgary's Bow River, however Red Deer does not have any reservoirs made out of old quarries nearby. Calgary is already feeling the pinch so industrial expansion has been limited and has been moving north towards Edmonton. That is one of the large reasons Calgary has focused so much on building highrises is to the fact that highrises consume less water than industrial sites. North Saskatchewan sees about 10 times more water than the Bow or Red Deer Rivers, while Edmonton also has Sturgeon River and a few lakes to take advantage of.

The 2006 Census got 82,772 for the pop. with a 22% increase from 2001. At that rate it'll be at 100,981 (and it's own CMA:eek: ) by 2011 but I would count on the growth slowing down to maybe 10-15%.

Hard to say really. Red Deer is getting a lot of industry that won't set up shop in Calgary. It might grow at a more steady pace of 15%. But Red Deer County is currently in and around 90,000 - encroaching 100 000 in a few years. We'll see.

Heres a rendering of the planned $28M Executive Place which would be built downtown at the site of the former CIBC branch. The old buildings demolition was excpected to be started in the spring of '07 and it was supposed to be finished by fall of '08, but by the sounds of it, it hasn't been started yet:ohno: But i'm not sure seeing as its been over a year since i was in downtown Red Deer.:dunno:


http://www.reddeerregion.com/images/skyscraper117.jpg

See http://www.reddeerregion.com/future.htm for more info. on this and other projects.

Just found this on the Red Deer region site, this update being more recent (June 15):

Demolition for City Centre Office Tower Set to Proceed
Demolition of the former CIBC building and adjacent Bernstein building on the corner of 49 Ave. and Ross St. in the centre of downtown Red Deer is set to proceed in July to make way for a 12-storey office tower. The new 100,000 sq. ft. building will have a predominantly green glass facade with a two-storey vaulted lobby. Rooftop decks would be accessible from the third and seventh floors and the 11th floor would open onto a covered balcony. About 7,000 sq. ft. on the first floor will be dedicated to commercial use. The $30 million structure is expected to be completed by May 2009.

As well as a picture of the Capri Hotel which I mentioned earlier:

http://www.reddeerregion.com/images/anshcaprihotel117.jpg

Some more pics of buildings in Red Deer

The Black Knight Inn:
http://alberta.hotel--canada.com/redknight.jpg

Cloverhill Terrace:
http://www.bwalk.com/rental/BuildingPics/305.jpg

Watson Tower:
http://www.bwalk.com/rental/BuildingPics/174.jpg

Saratoga Tower:
http://www.bwalk.com/rental/BuildingPics/173.jpg

What is it with small cities and shitty architecture? :lol:

Black Knight Inn isn't too bad looking actually, it's pretty well proportioned.

Black Knight has a pretty good restaurant there. Well, buffet.

Cuz, my grandma likes going to buffets.

Mine does too. :P She was so upset when the Pizza Hut closed. We used to go to their buffets. :P

My grandmother had higher tastes, apparently.

pizza hut buffet owns

My grandmother had higher tastes, apparently.

We don't too kindly to you saphistikatid city folk.

Was just in Red Deer today. Noticed them servicing some new industrial lots north of the city. Much of this was taking place right outside of Red Deer County, probably either to use the County of Lacombe's services or to use and abuse a tax haven or something.

Red Deer Lodge:
http://e.yimg.com/tr.us.o.yimg.com/imgs/2/200034/200034_EXT_01_J.jpg

Downtown (not sure what the building is):
http://www.reddeerregion.com/images/andtmilleniumpath300.jpg

http://www.reddeercorridor.com/downloads/documentloader.aspx?id=2227

Downtown:
http://www.city.red-deer.ab.ca/cord/Images/header/left/lpic19.jpg

http://www.reddeerregion.com/images/anmh1downtown450.jpg

There's a better rendering of executive place http://employment.alberta.ca/documents/RRM/RRM-CE_inthenews_jan07.pdf here, but i cant put it here because its in Adobe Reader.

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/205/reddeeryf0.jpg

Ah, the wonders of print screen.

^^ lol thanks

looks good compared to most of the buildings. congradulations red deer

What is it with small cities and shitty architecture? :lol:


That is so true. Perhaps, in a city of 5 million, there are a substantial number of design oriented industries and people, so good design gets built. Over time, the population demands an ever increasing standard. In a small town, people aren't surrounded by good design. You can't desire something you aren't familiar with.

Then there are places like Finland. There, attention to design is so integral to the culture, that even small towns build beauty into absolutely everything. In Canada, it is a rare to find good architecture in a small town unless it is old.

The Capri Hotel, at 14 floors. It may be hideous, but it actually looks like a hotel.

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2003/06/198696.jpg

And Checkmate Court, also at 14 floors.

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2003/06/198692.jpg

If only James Peacock would take a visit and expand the ever-so tiny list on Emporis, like he did with Sudbury.

That is so true. Perhaps, in a city of 5 million, there are a substantial number of design oriented industries and people, so good design gets built. Over time, the population demands an ever increasing standard. In a small town, people aren't surrounded by good design. You can't desire something you aren't familiar with.

Then there are places like Finland. There, attention to design is so integral to the culture, that even small towns build beauty into absolutely everything. In Canada, it is a rare to find good architecture in a small town unless it is old.

Actually, I find big Canadian cities are the same. Regardless of whether or not they have good architecture, the 60's and 70's style monstrosities really dominate, unfortunately.

I know its not really an "update" seeing as this article is from July 20 but at least it gives you some idea of where the construction is at, and seeing as im not from Red Deer i cant get pictures so this will have to do until another website posts something better. This will be sweet when it's finished, it will really give downtown Red Deer a "skyline" feel as it will anchor all the surrounding low rise six-storyish buildings. Not an amazing peice of architechure but its a start for Red Deer.

From the reddeerregion.com
Buildings Demolished for Downtown Office Tower
The 47-year-old former CIBC building at the corner of Ross St. and 49 Ave. in downtown Red Deer and the 53-year-old adjacent Bernstein Building were demolished yesterday to make way for a 12-storey office tower developed by Beca International. Once the foundations are removed, excavation and shoring work will begin. Construction is expected to be well underway this year and the 100,000 sq. ft. $30 million Executive Place should be ready for tenant improvements by the summer of 2009. Features include underground parking for 100 vehicles, a two-storey vaulted lobby, a pair of rooftop decks and a covered balcony near the top.

Yeah, this thread is the most comprehensive thread I've seen on any of the three SS forums.

That is so true. Perhaps, in a city of 5 million, there are a substantial number of design oriented industries and people, so good design gets built. Over time, the population demands an ever increasing standard. In a small town, people aren't surrounded by good design. You can't desire something you aren't familiar with.

Then there are places like Finland. There, attention to design is so integral to the culture, that even small towns build beauty into absolutely everything. In Canada, it is a rare to find good architecture in a small town unless it is old.

Big cities have more architecture because they can afford it. Small cities in Canada do have good architecture, even good modern architecture, but because of the low number of buildings and the lack of money to spend on buildings, styles tend to be more conservative, which is why we have such plain buildings.

Some buildings, though, like the Provincial Building in Thunder Bay or the Ministry of Mines building in Sudbury, are decent examples of good architecture in small cities. And, you have to admit, Toronto and Calgary have their shares of monstrosities. ;)

New rendering for the BECA International Building. First Class A Office space in the city.

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3632/executive20place201fv9.jpg

What does "Class A Office Space" mean?

Grading here is like grading beef. Class A means that the office space is good and can serve as any type of office function (IT, accounting, trading, conference rooms, etc.)

Another rendering from a different angle:

http://www.industrymailout.com/Industry/Home/3423/4086/images/inside%20executive%20place%20picture.jpg