I can't see how a Hull Metro sub forum alone is justifiable though??

I suppose if the chances are greater if we have a NE sub forum then i'd settle with that.

I'll settle for that also, if that's all we are gonna get.

But how a sight as popular as ours can't have it's own sub-forum, is totally beyond me!

we have sweet fanny adams to do wi newcastle, etc so why bundle us in wi them, i dare say they couldnt give a flying flippance what happens down here either. - if you'd have said York then fair does (east and north yorkshire sub-forum anyone? poss north lincs too for scunny n grimsby?)
york-hull would make sense, not least with the current wranglings over transport links between the two places...?

The creation of an East Midlands sub-forum worked really well as Leicester and Nottingham really are only a stones throw from each other so i guess have something in common. Hull with Newcastle is like having Hull with Norwich - it doesnt really work. But we need something and IMO the popularity and amount of members does justify a Hull sub-forum possibly combining neighbouring towns into an East Yorkshire one.

Hull and Newcastle?!?! Well it didn't work in the rugby league mergers did it! Really that sounds daft to me and just for the sake of it.

I think a 'Humber Forum' would work. Maybe some of the Hull guys could create threads for the places you mentioned, Grimsby, Scunthorpe etc, (if there are any worthwhile developments going on there) see how popular they are and then ask for a forum together.

The guys in Cardiff did that by creating other welsh threads and now have a Wales forum including them.

Well theres certainally lots going on in the rest of East Yorkshire that we know about. Theres the Marina plans for Bridlington and the proposes piazza in Beverley town centre. Out of town i also heard of plans for a large retail park so theres plenty to talk about.

How about a North East section including Newcastle and Sunderland... would that work? How do you guys get on with each other? And yes, I know I have contradicted myself.

I don't see how this will work - no one will find us if they want to contribute. We don't really gel with the gordies.:lol:

My route finder says:
Route summary
Start: Hull, England, United Kingdom
End: Newcastle [Newcastle upon Tyne], England, United Kingdom

Total distance: 120.1 mi
Estimated time: 2 Hours, 29 Minutes

I think 120 miles is stretching it a bit!! :nuts:

I can't see how a Hull Metro sub forum alone is justifiable though.

Does that mean the Welsh forum will closed then ? They have roughly the same number of posts as us for a whole country (or their definition of one!):baeh3:

There are 2 million people in Wales and most of them live in the anglicised bit. There are nearly a million people in the 4 unitary authorities around the Humber. I would propose we request a Hull and Humber Regional forum. :okay: :okay: :okay: :okay:

Or as a compromise a Yorkshire and the Humber Regional forum - this would pick up all the stuff outside Leeds and Sheffield? :sly:

^^
I disagree with the last point. there are over 50,000 posts in leeds and sheffield's sites, it would be daft to merge them with hull into one huge site; as the number of hull posts grow, so do leeds and sheffield; it would be increasingly tedious for residents of each city to pick their way through all the threads to find the ones relevant to their city.

I think stick to East Yorkshire or Humberside. thats the best way to do it.

Hull is not in the North East, however hard that might be for your IT guys to accept. The solution is a very simple evolution of what we've already got:

Leeds & West Yorkshire (as is)
Sheffield & South Yorkshire (as is)
Hull & East Yorkshire (NEW FORUM)

It's got to be a Hull & East Yorkshire thread now or never, because we will lose momentum and interest. New people are joining the Hull thread everyday, but a single forum isn't servicing their need to post comments on their city.

The Hull & East Yorkshire forum is justified as it will be larger than the Wales / Cymru one recently started.

I never supported the Wales Forum...and now its here it dosn't really make sense to me. Its not busy at all... I see why Admin held back before giving them their forum. There is however much more interest across the Board in the Welsh Cities than there is in Hull. When you go inside their sub forum they have views like 70,000, 20,000 etc. Hull has 50,000.

My second point is... if Hull Metro Area and its surrounding areas deserve a sub forum.... then many more will claim the need one too. so does Nottingham. Since the Sub Forum has begun, it has become extremely clear there is much more interest in Nottingham than the other EM areas, and it is a little pain looking at Leicester Threads as well as at mine. If everybody get their own little metro area before their time I think Skyscraper city can loose its appeal in the form that it has it now. We don't want lots of sub forums with low post. The EM Forum has done well since starting it as it combines all three major cities and also smaller areas around the region.... but when I was initially asking for Nottinghams own sub-forum... I totally see why the Admin didn't give it too us. We're just not that busy.

The way I see it, creating a Hull Sub Forum will only be as busy as the Wales Forum. AND... it won't be long before every one else makes their claim.

I'm sure... naturally.... you guys will have a different opinion though...

The reason why Hull has 50000 views is because it only began last November which says a lot about its popularity. The main Cardiff thread started 7 months earlier so has been going nearly twice as long thats why it has more views but only 1820 posts.

Plus

old Nottingham thread started January 2006 1553 posts
old Leicester thread November 2005 2943 posts

Another thing: 1000 posts on the Hull thread since the start of July. Doesn't that tell you something.

I never supported the Wales Forum...and now its here it dosn't really make sense to me. Its not busy at all... I see why Admin held back before giving them their forum. There is however much more interest across the Board in the Welsh Cities than there is in Hull. When you go inside their sub forum they have views like 70,000, 20,000 etc. Hull has 50,000.

My second point is... if Hull Metro Area and its surrounding areas deserve a sub forum.... then many more will claim the need one too. so does Nottingham. Since the Sub Forum has begun, it has become extremely clear there is much more interest in Nottingham than the other EM areas, and it is a little pain looking at Leicester Threads as well as at mine. If everybody get their own little metro area before their time I think Skyscraper city can loose its appeal in the form that it has it now. We don't want lots of sub forums with low post. The EM Forum has done well since starting it as it combines all three major cities and also smaller areas around the region.... but when I was initially asking for Nottinghams own sub-forum... I totally see why the Admin didn't give it too us. We're just not that busy.

The way I see it, creating a Hull Sub Forum will only be as busy as the Wales Forum. AND... it won't be long before every one else makes their claim.

I'm sure... naturally.... you guys will have a different opinion though...

The East Midlands Forum was (mainly) established to serve Leicester and Nottingham. I believe it does this well. (Hull didn't get a forum it requested, despite being busier than Nottingham)

A North East forum was suggested for Hull. Forget it - it's geographically wrong and the real North East's cities (Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough) are much too quiet to justify it.

A 'Yorkshire' Forum would properly serve the 5 million people in Leeds & West Yorks, Sheffield & South Yorks and Hull & East Yorks. Everybody in urban Yorkshire would agree that this is the way the county is made up, historically, culturally and economically and everybody would be included within their main city-region. A combined Yorkshire Forum would quickly have over 60,000 posts - more popular than the London and Birmingham forums, giving Yorkshire the political clout it deserves.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Yorkshire_rose.svg/150px-

If the moderators don't want to combine the formats into a single Yorkshire one then the only way to represent Hull (3100 posts & 50,000 views in 9 months!) is to do a seperate Hull & East Yorkshire forum as they have done for Leeds and Sheffield.

The Hull forum is already as large than Wales / Cymru (over 2 years old). Why is the Welsh identity considered more sacrosanct than that of the 'Forgotten City', Hull?

Hull is not in the North East, however hard that might be for your IT guys to accept. The solution is a very simple evolution of what we've already got:

Leeds & West Yorkshire (as is)
Sheffield & South Yorkshire (as is)
Hull & East Yorkshire (NEW FORUM)

It's got to be a Hull & East Yorkshire thread now or never, because we will lose momentum and interest. New people are joining the Hull thread everyday, but a single forum isn't servicing their need to post comments on their city.

The Hull & East Yorkshire forum is justified as it will be larger than the Wales / Cymru one recently started.

OK i like this idea personally, except a variation of it.

What about all the main metro city forums as they are already,

ie.

London
Manchester
Birmingham
Liverpool
Leeds
Glasgow
sheffield

then another forum called "Other main UK cities"

clicking this forum gives another list all the other smaller forum subsections, such as:

nottingham
hull
cardiff
edinburgh
leicester

etc etc,

which then can all post diferent topics as they please just like one can with the leeds, london, manchester forums etc.

:banana:

Great idea Wiggley although i'd keep the East Midlands and Wales sub-forums to avoid complication but it really would work. In that section we could have Newcastle, Bristol and Coventry. None of them are as popular as Hull though but if thats the only way Hulls going to be recognised then i'd really support that idea.

There seems a reluctance to alter the structure too much and i can understand. Thats why i'm against the idea of seperating the country into different regions because it would require too much work. It wouldnt take much to have another section for the smaller cities sub-forums. Such as the ones i've just mentioned.

As long as theres a dozen ideas floating around we aren't really getting anywhere. I'd really support a Yorkshire section and in it sub-forums for Hull Leeds and Sheffield. IMO this is now the best way to do it. I know i keep changing my mind. :)

OK i like this idea personally, except a variation of it.

What about all the main metro city forums as they are already,

ie.

London
Manchester
Birmingham
Liverpool
Leeds
Glasgow
sheffield

then another forum called "Other main UK cities"

clicking this forum gives another list all the other smaller forum subsections, such as:

nottingham
hull
cardiff
edinburgh
leicester

etc etc,

which then can all post diferent topics as they please just like one can with the leeds, london, manchester forums etc.

:banana:

I agree Wiggley, but the the mods prefer to lump mid-sized cities into regions.

old Nottingham thread started January 2006 1553 posts

(Hull didn't get a forum it requested, despite being busier than Nottingham)


You have to remember that Nottingham was one of the only cities that didn't operate in the One Nottingham Thread.

2 Other Nottingham Projects Threads
Nottingham Isn't Completely Dead
Nottingham Highrise Projects
Nottingham Eastside
Worst Buildings In Nottingham
And Nottingham Completed Developments

I agree Wiggley, but the the mods prefer to lump mid-sized cities into regions.

Isn't this the way things were before we had the wales and em forum...

Mancs, Leeds, Sheffs, Brum, Glasgow, Liverpool had their section...

Then our stuff was at the bottom...we could create as many threads as we'd like?

i already know what im gonna do with reordering the forums.... all of them. i just need people to wait until summer is over. its a lot of work for everyone moving hundreds of threads.

^^
I disagree with the last point. there are over 50,000 posts in Leeds and Sheffield’s sites, it would be daft to merge them with hull into one huge site; as the number of hull posts grow, so do Leeds and Sheffield; it would be increasingly tedious for residents of each city to pick their way through all the threads to find the ones relevant to their city.

Alfie,

I wasn't proposing lumping Leeds and Sheffield in with a new Yorkshire forum I was saying we should have a Yorks and Humber forum to pick up all the rest of what is happening in this massive region.

What about Doncaster, Bradford, York, Halifax, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Barnsley, Pontefract, Barnsley, Wakefield, etc, etc. and us in Hull.

These could all be put into this sub forum.

Lastly are we not getting too carried away with Geography and statistics (population, Sq Miles etc). Surely the main purpose of a forum is to provide a service for its user community. The forum should adapt to the number of visits and posts it generates - it resides in cyber world were geography does not matter.

Sub forums should be created on internet usage stats and traffic. This is how forums continue to grow and attract more users. That is their function. That is also how you get hits on your adverts which create revenue. To keep increasing your revenue you need to be responsive to the users and adapt the site to maximise your hit rate. The only way to do this is to provide forums for users with specific interests who continue to provide worthwhile content and continue to contribute over a sustained period.

As you will probably appreciate from my comments I have some experience in these matters - my web site attracts well over 1.5 million visitors a year. I also have experience of forum creation.

From a site management perspective it makes sense to provide some sort of sub forum for the threads that (1) attract a lot of posts and hits and (2) does this consistently over a period of time. The Hull thread does this.

Simple - Create a sub forum for this group of users :bash:

i already know what im gonna do with reordering the forums.... all of them. i just need people to wait until summer is over. its a lot of work for everyone moving hundreds of threads.

We will wait with bated breath.

Thanks for listening :okay:

A North-East sub-forum would work in theory, as Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough are pretty closely linked. could even throw Carlisle into the mix as well.

As you will probably appreciate from my comments I have some experience in these matters - my web site attracts well over 1.5 million visitors a year. I also have experience of forum creation.

skyscrapercity gets over 1.5 million a week. last week we overtook popular website faceparty for the first time ever.

Well I still favour a Metro-heartland forum, based on this:-

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/445949865_d72e29d5d5.jpg?v=0

If that's too visionary, a Humber Basin forum.

Re 'Hull not in Northeast, sure it ain't in the arbitrary Whitehall Northeast 'region' but it was served by the York-based North Eastern Railway, the greatest railway territorial near-monopoly pre-1923. And in my day the Northeastern Gas Board served Hull. I've always thought of Northeast England as Lincs, Yorks, Durham and Northumberland, to which Notts and Derbys should on reflection be added.

i already know what im gonna do with reordering the forums.... all of them. i just need people to wait until summer is over. its a lot of work for everyone moving hundreds of threads.


Does it involve a Hull sub-forum?

I would love to see a Bristol Metro folder but to be fair we dont have loads of people posting (not alot of Bristol people know about this site).

I think we could still do with a folder though and more and more people have started to post on our forum.

Bristol is a major and very important city in the UK and has some of the biggest developments going on in the country... (Ok that doesnt mean that Birmingham and Manchester havent, thought i would say before all the Brums and Mancs start a petty war, like they usally do)...

Great idea Wiggley although i'd keep the East Midlands and Wales sub-forums to avoid complication but it really would work. In that section we could have Newcastle, Bristol and Coventry. None of them are as popular as Hull though but if thats the only way Hulls going to be recognised then i'd really support that idea.

I beg to differ - there're a number of ongoing threads (At least half a dozen) for Coventry in the Brum area along with the "main" one on "projects and construction".

Not being funny, but surely moving threads complicates things? If your forumers know where to post info, then that should be fine. Nottingham was getting clogged up as we were having so many projects being announced, starting, finishing and about to begin, it was hard to keep track. I think the only reason we got our own sub-forum was on condition that it was with Derby and Leicester as well (plus all areas in between). Hull cant really ask for a sub-forum all on it's own, otherwise then lots of other worthy cities like Bristol, Glasgow, Plymouth, (and Nottingham, lol) would want them as well, then that defeats the object.

Having looked on the hull page tho, your developments do look exciting, whats the est value of whats going on there?

Not being funny, but surely moving threads complicates things? If your forumers know where to post info, then that should be fine. Nottingham was getting clogged up as we were having so many projects being announced, starting, finishing and about to begin, it was hard to keep track. I think the only reason we got our own sub-forum was on condition that it was with Derby and Leicester as well (plus all areas in between). Hull cant really ask for a sub-forum all on it's own, otherwise then lots of other worthy cities like Bristol, Glasgow, Plymouth, (and Nottingham, lol) would want them as well, then that defeats the object.

Having looked on the hull page tho, your developments do look exciting, whats the est value of whats going on there?

Well...the problems you mention re the thread getting complicated and clogged is exactly what the hull thread is experiencing at the moment. It's not as if any of the Hull forumers have stated that we demand a hull thread and nothing else, we have all been open to suggestions and co-operated fully with regards to how things can improve, and the best way forward.

Thanks for your interest regarding the developments in this great city. I would estimte that on the table for the next couple of years there must be roughly £2Billion of private investment + billions more being spent on revolutionizing public services. However, things have improved perceptibly beyond any of my own personal expectations since I lived in Hull 5 years ago due to many small changes mounting up and creating a real buzz at weekends in the city centre. Fantastic, unique public spaces and buildings have been spruced up, and there is now a constant schedule of events in the ciity centre and on the waterfront that are really bringing the place back to life. Just recently for example, town has been thronged with people checking out gardening events, continental markets, food fairs, maritime festivals, music festivals etc etc. Allied to this, every time I have been back over summer there have been people packing out the many new cafe bars lining the docks and historic squares. It's really quite exciting, and actually something of a miracle if you could have seen the place in the 80's and 90's.

For anybody who has preconcieved ideas to do with what Kingston-Upon-Hull is all about, I suggest you check it out with an open mind and you will be blown away. Even more so in a few years when more of our new developments have taken shape. :)

Hull, Keep fighting for your own sub-forum.

Without doubt you are now the most busy city thread without a sub-forum.

There are other Cities which also need their own sub-forum.

Hull, Keep fighting for your own sub-forum.

Without doubt you are now the most busy city thread without a sub-forum.

There are other Cities which also need their own sub-forum.

Thanks Kurt!

:banana: Hull, Keep fighting for your own sub-forum.


WE WILL
:llama:

AND WE WILL NOT DIE AWAY

We're only a few hundred off 4,000 now.

I agree with giving each English region it's own main forum on the front page, if it follows this set-up: (and to stop potential arguments, some cities like Manc and Liverpool would continue to have separate sub-forums within the NorthWest forum for example)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_england

http://www.gos.gov.uk/images/map-for-national-homepage.gif

I think this regions of England idea is a winner. It seems so logical, and eradicates the elitist problem we have currently. To use an analogy, the Premier league(sub-forum cities) are getting richer and richer(or more popular)due to the extra publicity gained from having that status, than those aspiring to be in the premier league, who attract lesser attention due to less coverage. The gap grows larger.
This idea means that each region will have equal status, regardless of levels of interest. Naturally, some regions will be busier than others(London for example), but this is unavoidable. At least each and every forumer will share the same priviledges regardless of size of town/city, or number of members..

I agree with giving each English region it's own main forum on the front page, if it follows this set-up: (and to stop potential arguments, some cities like Manc and Liverpool would continue to have separate sub-forums within the NorthWest forum for example)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_england

http://www.gos.gov.uk/images/map-for-national-homepage.gif

Placing Liverpool in a "north west" set-up would cause offence. It should be avoided.

On a technical note,

There must be a point at which a thread starts to be in danger of falling over and possibly bringing down the whole site.

Also, large threads will affect the performance of the whole site. There is a database behind all this which will have to start working very hard to recover the threads if there are several thousand posts with images etc.

This approach alone should mean that busy threads with lots of posts are given their own area so that the posts can be sub divided into many threads.

From a site maintenance point of view it just makes sense.

This means, in my book, Hull, Coventry and Preston need to be accommodated somehow with their own sub forum or shoe horned into already existing sub forums. They have the most posts (as of today on page 1). They will then have the ability to expand as their users want them to.

i hope that doesn't mean we will lose everything that has been posted on the hull thread so far though...

i enjoy going back and reading through it and using it for reference and finding old pics people have posted etc., would be a shame to lose all that.

Yeah, i often have a wander down memory lane. Makes us realize how far things have come.

I don't see why we couldn't have a Hull subforum, and just lock the current thread and keep it as an archive, with people starting new threads for the specific projects.

Why on earth should the current thread have to be locked?

I think this would work far far better, and alleviates any itches regarding local government regionalist regionalisms...

http://www.csv.org.uk/csv/images/mapregionsCSV.gif

although I would put the south west / south east / east / and London etc... as The South

Is that to appease the scousers kicking off at the notion of change b4mmy?:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=15290805#post15290805

I don't think that 'east of england section' is gonna get much action is it?

Anyway, bottom line...is it going to allow hull forum contributors the chance to post conversation topics on more than one thread?

On a technical note,

There must be a point at which a thread starts to be in danger of falling over and possibly bringing down the whole site.

Also, large threads will affect the performance of the whole site. There is a database behind all this which will have to start working very hard to recover the threads if there are several thousand posts with images etc.

This approach alone should mean that busy threads with lots of posts are given their own area so that the posts can be sub divided into many threads.

From a site maintenance point of view it just makes sense.

This means, in my book, Hull, Coventry and Preston need to be accommodated somehow with their own sub forum or shoe horned into already existing sub forums. They have the most posts (as of today on page 1). They will then have the ability to expand as their users want them to.

Well there was a time when threads of around a few thousand (1 or 2 i think it was) would get locked, and a new one started. So that no one thread became so big. Sheffield had about 13 of these before we got our sub-forum.

I'm not sure its an issue now because the server was upgraded or something.

Placing Liverpool in a "north west" set-up would cause offence. It should be avoided.


*sigh* not the first time I've read comments by liverpudlians complaining about their inclusion in 'NorthWest' regionalism. Its just a geographic term, it doesn't make you all suburban mancunians.

how about this one....

http://www.virtual-planit.com/CHRIS/regions.jpg

this one guys. -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/ukmap.gif

It works... I was looking at b4mmys model and while its ok, I think the North and the midlands should be split. East and West Midlands share nothing whatsover in common.

seems a bit of an eccentric option list for getting to the cities lists gothic.

If you're are going to have one for the channel islands, why don't you also have one for the isle of man?

ohh common...they can use the space below like we used to... channel islands really dont need a sub forum...they'll be one comment every 3 months

We have Channel Island forumers?

Placing Liverpool in a "north west" set-up would cause offence. It should be avoided.

Sorry for being ignorant, but why? Surely Liverpool is in the north-west?


Gothic's map is ok, apart from I would never say a place like Swindon is south east.

indeed i thought we could list british overseas dependencies like gibraltar too :)

indeed i thought we could list british overseas dependencies like gibraltar too :)

How about making the UK a Commonwealth one... how would that go down ;)

:ohno: Nice to know you two are taking this massively seriously then...

:lol:

ohh common...they can use the space below like we used to... channel islands really dont need a sub forum...they'll be one comment every 3 months

I though they only had towns, villages and hamlets. :lol:

I agree with giving each English region it's own main forum on the front page, if it follows this set-up: (and to stop potential arguments, some cities like Manc and Liverpool would continue to have separate sub-forums within the NorthWest forum for example)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_england

http://www.gos.gov.uk/images/map-for-national-homepage.gif


I think this is an excellent idea, and mentioned it some time back.

this one guys. -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/ukmap.gif

Yup, looks good. Where is Liverpool though? I heard it isn't in the North West - has it moved?

Yup, looks good. Where is Liverpool though? I heard it isn't in the North West - has it moved?

Yep, the Irish have claimed it for their own, they tried to tow it accross the sea but the rope broke and its now twinned with the Isle of Man:lol:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6458/liverpoolyv7.jpg

:rofl:

:ohno: Nice to know you two are taking this massively seriously then...

:lol: You're acting like they're supposed to be organising a funeral for a dead relative or something! Its just a forum! Get over it! You'll have your sub-forum soon!

:lol: You're acting like they're supposed to be organising a funeral for a dead relative or something! Its just a forum! Get over it! You'll have your sub-forum soon!

We on the Hull thread demand and expect the very highest level of serious discussion on this vital issue.

http://www.september11news.com/Nov10ABushUN4.jpg

;)

^^ Agree, Gothic and the other mods ought to be sitting round tables discussing the issue at this very moment :lol:

Look at their boardroom! Where are they?!

Nowhere to be seen! Disgusting!

http://www.couponscanada.org/assets/images/boardroom.jpg

Yep, the Irish have claimed it for their own, they tried to tow it accross the sea but the rope broke and its now twinned with the Isle of Man:lol:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6458/liverpoolyv7.jpg

:rofl:

What a bugger, :nuts: if that puts Liverpool nearer to Dublin than Manchester, so be it :lol: :banana:

Look at their boardroom! Where are they?!

Nowhere to be seen! Disgusting!

http://www.couponscanada.org/assets/images/boardroom.jpg


They'll be out drinking away the Skyscraper News petty cash, no doubt. .:ohno:

Ahem!

Any news on this yet?

Yeah, everythings gone quiet.

NEWCASTLE NEED'S ITS OWN SUB-FORUM!

Birmingham needs a Construction sub forum and Skybar

why has newcastle not got its own sub forum?needs to be adressed as there are too many topics being covered in one long post, please help:nuts:

Could possibly Tyneside/ Newcastle have a sub forum? If it is simply to have a skyscraper built then i guess we can't, but they are planned and how tall is a skyscraper classed? Its just we have many projects going on round the city/ conurbation and it gets rather confusing trying to comment on specific projects as everyting is all lumped together in on rather long list of posts.

You Geordies are now experiencing the same frustrations many of the other threads under projects and construction have already encountered and debated ad infinitum.

Have a read of the previous 13 pages of this thread and see the difficulties we on the Hull thread in particular have had in convincing the moderators that we need more than one thread to discuss the huge amount of projects and proposed, U/C schemes in our city. The Hull thread has only been going for one year, but has thousands of posts and more views than the whole of Wales already!

The most useful suggestion has been to restructure the UK forum along the lines of the US one, and have it split into regions, with multi threads for towns and cities underneath. We were promised some changes to this effect, but as yet we are still waiting...

I think its ridiculous how Norwich doesn't have its own sub-forums. There are over 17 posts on the official thread, with around 150 views. Norfolk forumers are not pleased - the 4 of us finding it really difficult to keep track of which of our two conversations we're talking about.

^^ :lol: :lol:

Not funny.

Hull's thread post count is just short of the whole of the Wales Sub Forum. You deserve your own Sub Forum. Not sure how the moderators would choose to configure this? Personally I think you should just get your own - and so should Leicester and Nottingham.

Hull's thread post count is just short of the whole of the Wales Sub Forum. You deserve your own Sub Forum. Not sure how the moderators would choose to configure this? Personally I think you should just get your own - and so should Leicester and Nottingham.

Things are getting abit cluttered in the East Midlands forum too now.

I agree some of the other city's should be getting they're own subforums now.

Not funny.

Matter of opinion I guess.

to people with a sense of humour: Funny

to stuffy gits: not funny

Matter of opinion I guess.

to people with a sense of humour: Funny

to stuffy gits: not funny

I thought it was funny!

Legolamb took offence at my "Little Piddle on the Gash" thread and had it locked. :ohno:

Hell, being from Coventry you HAVE a a sense of humour.:)

I'd have thought from Hull it'd be essential.:lol:

Easy Anders, enough wit' friction, lad.

I didn't mean to get your back up. Sorry if i did.

I don't think you're a stuffy git, but you also think along similar lines to me with regards to the forums setup:

Theres nothing wrong with things right now, but many other worthy cities are starting to see more developments and more forumers on here. The EM and Wales forums are the first steps in catering for more forumers. Having a 'Yorkshire Forum' on the main page with sub forums within would keep things much tidier and I beleive there are some benefits, such as what Chris says above ^^.

Its an important issue because a rejig of the projects forum is probably on the way

:lol: Sod off! Just because something is important doesn't mean you can't have the occasional joke about it!

'Friction'?! :lol: You're the one giving it the deadly serious "Not Funny *sulk*" trearment! My second post was a joke too! Blimey...didn't realise having a sub-forum was so important!

;)

Hmmm...I really don't think it's as important as you seem to think I do.

Just to clear it up though...You were taking the piss out of the Hull forumers by ironically lampooning our efforts to make life a bit easier on the forum, by comically equating it with the relatively new Norwich thread weren't you? or have we got seriously crossed wires here?

I'm not usually one to kill the humour in a joke by over-analysing it. But i'm getting more and more concerned that I might have actually just done that. Sorry.

Anyway, can we start again? I'll promise to not be such a Grumpy Gus. I'll be honest and admit that I still don't think the first joke was funny, and i think i missed the second one. But I just KNOW that the next one's gonna be fantastic! :okay:

I think its ridiculous how Norwich doesn't have its own sub-forums. There are over 17 posts on the official thread, with around 150 views. Norfolk forumers are not pleased - the 4 of us finding it really difficult to keep track of which of our two conversations we're talking about.
It's terribly hard to concentrate on two things at once, Andrew :lol:

Perhaps you should move to the Hull Group. :nuts:

But seriously Hull Dose need splitting up as any visitor canot really pickup on the multiple developments when they are all in one. S I vote for them to have a Humberside Sub-Forum.

:cheers: and good look Hull in your quest.

I think its ridiculous how Norwich doesn't have its own sub-forums. There are over 17 posts on the official thread, with around 150 views. Norfolk forumers are not pleased - the 4 of us finding it really difficult to keep track of which of our two conversations we're talking about.

Have a Green Banana lad:-

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Perhaps a Green Banana subforum is what's really needed - and if the concept takes off and this territory's gross underdevelopment is duly tackled then Norwich can assume its rightful place at the heart of Greater Hull's southeastern banlieue - you'll all have to change your accents though!

It will always be the dream.

As well as having loads of people wishing to post about Hull, 100,000 views, a bewildering number of developments (which we can't discuss properly) - this new data should further strengthen Hull's claim for it's own sub-forum. In 2012, Hull is predicted to be 6th in the UK, behind Manchester. It's claim is as least as strong as Nottingham's, Leicester's, Bristol's, Newcastle's, Sheffield's and Cardiff's.

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Just to clarify -

2007

1. Glasgow
2. Manchester
3. Birmingham
4. Edinburgh
5. Norwich
6. Nottingham
7. Brighton
7. Leeds
9. Oxford Street
10. Hull

2012

1. Glasgow
2. Birmingham
3. Leeds
4. Edinburgh
5. Manchester
6. Hull
7. Newcastle
8. Norwich
9. Liverpool
10. Nottingham

It's really getting ridiculous now. CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE A MODERATOR EXPLAIN WHY IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE HULL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH MORE THAN ONE THREAD??? PLEASE??? PRETTY PLEASE????

I don't think anyones stopping you from having more than one thread are they? Have they locked other Hull threads before?

I don't think anyones stopping you from having more than one thread are they? Have they locked other Hull threads before?

You know what we mean...It's no good having threads all over the forum. We need a sub-forum to keep them together.

You know what we mean...It's no good having threads all over the forum. We need a sub-forum to keep them together.

I'd love to see a Hull Sub-forum as much as you lot but it doesn't look like thats going to happen for a while unfortunately. So if things are as desperate as you make out then make a couple of threads to allow greater discussion on the bigger developments in Hull (west quay etc?). I don't see the harm, and it will set you up nicely with a few threads for when that sub-forum inevitably gets created.

That would mess it all up having different hull developments in with cities like Bristol, Newcastle. It was promised back in October that the whole structure would be reorganised adding extra sub-forums.

Oh Andy its Quay West. I think theres something in Southampton called West Quay.

Cough Hull Sub Forum Cough Needed.

Cough Hull Sub Forum Cough Needed.

Definitely.

Create some threads for the major developments so people can see the Action in Hull, and post Photos to get more interest.
Unless your going for the biggest single thread record;)
People cannot follow developments in one thread as looking back to find renders and info is too hard so visitors just get snippets of info on the topic of the day :ohno:

But yes HULL does need its Own sub forum.

Create some threads for the major developments so people can see the Action in Hull, and post Photos to get more interest.
Unless your going for the biggest single thread record;)
People cannot follow developments in one thread as looking back to find renders and info is too hard so visitors just get snippets of info on the topic of the day :ohno:

But yes HULL does need its Own sub forum.


Which solves the problem. :)

Hull posters have already invested time and energy into the original thread and covered real developments already in real time. It's not our fault it's so f**cking big. We're not interested in any record. We asked for a sub-forum ages ago and were told we were getting one. You want us to do it again for your convenience? Hoop and jumping through springs to mind.

Leicester, Nottingham, Cardiff, Swansea, and Newport (sorry er 'Wales') didn't require multuple threads before getting their sub-forums. I'm starting to think that the only reason we didn't is because it's Hull and SSC is institutionally placist.

Give us a sub-forum and we'll split it.

People need look no further than the constantly updated front page to see whats going on. Threads all over the place would just mess up Projects and construction and often get left behind, although if we did that then all the mods would have to is group them together then were away :banana:.

Plus theres a £100m shopping development in Beverley so there could be an East Yorkshire sub-forum.

Anyway cheers for your support Bulldozer

Hull has more posts in it than the whole of Wales, so as I've said many times - yes Hull should have it's own subforum. Come on James! ;)

Hull has more posts in it than the whole of Wales, so as I've said many times - yes Hull should have it's own subforum. Come on James! ;)

Hull's thread post count is just short of the whole of the Wales Sub Forum. You deserve your own Sub Forum. Not sure how the moderators would choose to configure this? Personally I think you should just get your own - and so should Leicester and Nottingham.

Things are getting abit cluttered in the East Midlands forum too now.

I agree some of the other city's should be getting they're own subforums now.

Create some threads for the major developments so people can see the Action in Hull, and post Photos to get more interest.
Unless your going for the biggest single thread record;)
People cannot follow developments in one thread as looking back to find renders and info is too hard so visitors just get snippets of info on the topic of the day :ohno:

But yes HULL does need its Own sub forum.

Hull, Keep fighting for your own sub-forum.

Without doubt you are now the most busy city thread without a sub-forum.

There are other Cities which also need their own sub-forum.



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Ah well.... another few months on... so.... if not Hull, then a North East forum would be nice. If nothing else, out of gratitude to the regular forumers who contribute their time.

Yes, just before i clicked on this thread i thought it wold be great to have a Board for Teesside, as we have lost of projects going on around the area, but if we can't have that i think a North East one would be great!

Of course if there is to be one its got to be a Hull one. The far superior post count says it all.

Well, yes maybe, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the discussion has all been about hull developments, a lot could of been off-topic 'chat'. There must be a case for a North-East one with the amount of developments going on up here, including, Newcastle, Sunderland and the Teesside area.

Well, yes maybe, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the discussion has all been about hull developments, a lot could of been off-topic 'chat'. There must be a case for a North-East one with the amount of developments going on up here, including, Newcastle, Sunderland and the Teesside area.

I think B4mmy meant a north east forum to include Hull too.

Check out the thread yourself...I think you'll find that the overwhelming majority of it has been about the massive amount of proposals/ under construction and completed developments in the city.

Personally I'd be perfectly happy to share a forum with the north east, even though Hull isn't strictly part of 'the north east' in any political sense :)

i dont see the point in having a north-east forum including Hull, it's got nothing to do with the north-east really. if anything it should have its own sub-forum.

Yes, i would include Hull in that, I think (although im not sure about others locally) that Hull should be included as i have always thought of Hull as been part of 'us'. Take the accents for example Teesside accent is much more like yours than Geordies'!

Frequently on maps of the UK Hull is included in the north east region, thats despite Newcastle and Hull being over 100 miles apart.

I'm not sure if this could be set up but have when you click on the NE sub forum you can choose the Hull, or Middlesbrough, Newcastle sub forums from a list. That would take you to the list of threads for individual developments.

Of course there is the criticism that theres not many tall buildings going up. But if you combine all the places together theres certainly more than the East Midlands or Wales.

Yes, exactly, well, there is a few, a couple in the Teesside area.
Its not possible to have sub-forums within sub-forums i don't think, unless you can do that with vbulletin, maybe oyu can.
But i think there is enough going on in the North-East for our own board.

North East would be the best current solution for Hull... a little creative license and common sense never hurt anyone.

It could form the basis of a very good, very busy subforum, and if things grow in the future Hull can always be moved out into its correct geopolitical subforum.

Personally, I don't think this is a matter to get too precious about, it's a constructive and progressive proposal that would satisfy a great many forumers.

I would certainly be happy with that.

So would I.

Anything happening yet?

Nope, nothing, and i can't see it happening.

Posted August 26th 2007

i already know what im gonna do with reordering the forums.... all of them. i just need people to wait until summer is over. its a lot of work for everyone moving hundreds of threads.

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North East would be the best current solution for Hull... a little creative license and common sense never hurt anyone.

It could form the basis of a very good, very busy subforum, and if things grow in the future Hull can always be moved out into its correct geopolitical subforum.

Personally, I don't think this is a matter to get too precious about, it's a constructive and progressive proposal that would satisfy a great many forumers.

This is the most sensible comment on the subject.

It is and Thanks Legolamb for bringing that point back up.

I think it would be very active too, as well, i know I would participate in and show interest in other areas of our region and I'm sure others will do the same, despite our rivalry's! :P

Just bringing this subject back into discussion, Please!