Empire East to spend P8B for new projects
By ZINNIA B. DELA PEÑA
The Philippine Star

http://services.inquirer.net/print/print.php?article_id=71207

Empire East Land Holdings Inc., the middle-income housing unit of Megaworld Corp., is setting aside up to P8 billion over the next five years for the construction of new and ongoing projects.

Following the company’s stockholders’ meeting Wednesday, Empire East president Anthony Charlemagne Yu said the company is spending P1.5 billion this year for the development of new residential towers in Metro Manila.

To be launched this year are the nine-tower Pioneer Woodlands along Pioneer Avenue in Mandaluyong City and the six-tower Little Baguio Terraces on the Greenhills side of San Juan.

Yu said Pioneer Woodlands will be linked directly to the Boni station of the MRT-3 along EDSA. It will have a total of 3,000 units.

Empire East, he said, is now negotiating with the landowners of the Mandaluyong property.

With Little Baguio Terraces, the company hopes to replicate the success of Xavier Hills, Greenhills Garden Square and San Francisco Gardens.

Yu said the company will continue efforts to acquire raw land for development in the most strategic locations. It intends to do this through outright purchases or joint venture agreements with landowners.

Yu said the company will also make available to its clients Homelite, an affordable home financing product developed by Megaworld and Security Bank to offer the lowest fixed interest rates in the market plus extended payment terms of up to 25 years.

Yu reported that Xavier Hills in the San Juan-New Manila area is fully taken up even as homeowners continue to move into its four towers.

Laguna Bel Air, on the other hand, continues to build on its impressive sales record. Nearly sold out are Laguna Bel Air 1 and 2’s five phases, now home to some 2,116 families. The residential lots and house-and-lot units at Laguna Bel Air 3 and 4, comprising seven phases, are 94 percent taken up.

Meanwhile, Cambridge Village in Cainta, comprising 28 clusters in four phases, is 85 percent sold. Six clusters are on the market and are enjoying brisk sales.

Empire East is eyeing a 15 percent hike in net income this year from P246.8 million in 2006. Gross profit rose 11 percent to P174.7 million from P157.9 million while interest income increased 12 percent to P598 million as a result of increased sales under in-house financing.

The U/C showroom, taken last Sunday - 07.08.07

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/100_1693x.jpg

wow... nine towers... well.. that is quite a big lot.... they will be good addition to the skyline of that area..

^^ With the size of the lot, I think it may look like the nearby CGS, and the Xavier Hills and Greenhills Garden Square projects of Empire East. Now it makes me wonder if they will also recycle the design that they used for those three projects, again.

do we have a map yet for this project? if it's going to be linked to the mrt boni station it must be very very near, or that link will have to be a long, lone one. :)

^^ That picture of the showroom being constructed is taken on my way up the Boni MRT Station. So it's not just very near, it's actually right infront of the station. It's not yet launched I think, so we wouldn't have a map for this one yet. I'll post a Google Earth map instead...

"X" marks the spot...
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/PW.jpg

thx! that's quite a very central location for empire east. zillions away from the location of cambridge village. :lol: hope they keep the price down though... interesting!!

Any info as to when they start to presell this project :banana2:

Wow 3000 units for 9 towers that's like 330 units per tower.

How many units in each CGS floor ba. Was it 10? That would make these 33 story buildings. But if it's 20 units per floor then that would be 15 floors. Dang that looks like a very dense configuration.

Oh well basta mura then happy iyung customer. Good location naman.

Wow 3000 units for 9 towers that's like 330 units per tower.

How many units in each CGS floor ba. Was it 10? That would make these 33 story buildings. But if it's 20 units per floor then that would be 15 floors. Dang that looks like a very dense configuration.

Oh well basta mura then happy iyung customer. Good location naman.



not as dense as The Grass with 7 towers and 5,390 units :nuts: and if i'm not mistaken they're in roughly the same price range

hehe but si Grass yata 5 hectares? eh ito 1 hectar lang, haha, parang langam.

baka kailangan dyan lagi sagad ang aircon he he. :lol:

It seem most local developer nowadays is focusing in building project in Mandaluyong area. Anyway, I'm just curious if they are offering a loft type unit or standard flat unit area. Area is currently busy due to nearby BPO offices and of course its accessible to both Ortigas & Makati CBD via MRT line.
:lol:

just wondering why woodlands? are they planning to build a mini forest instead of the usual garden and pool amenities? baka ito na nga ang sinasabing gubat sa syudad... LOL!! :hilarious

It seem most local developer nowadays is focusing in building project in Mandaluyong area. Anyway, I'm just curious if they are offering a loft type unit or standard flat unit area. Area is currently busy due to nearby BPO offices and of course its accessible to both Ortigas & Makati CBD via MRT line.
:lol:

well... I these developers are making the most of the rezoning of this area of Mandaluyong from industrial to residential/commercial...

The pioneer street of is too narrow nowadays for this scale of developments in that area. The access road from Edsa to pioneer street can only accommodate exactly one vehicle at a time per direction, which causes heavy taffic at pioneer street specialy at the evening when employees from cybergate centers started to leave their office. Actually if they plan to widen the road they can only expand the road in the cybergate center side into 2 lanes and the other side cannot since the Globe Pioneer building is within exactly in the road boundery.

I think the concept of building Pioneer Woodland beside MRT and EDSA is to maximized availability of good transport system. Maybe the target potential buyers are people who use public transport and walking distance to work. I hope if this project is finish would make the Pioneer cor. EDSA side become a 24 hrs busy street similar to Boni Ave. cor EDSA side :fiddle:

this is going to be quite an interesting project. kelan kaya launch nito? :) this should complement the other empire east project, the cambridge village. for those who really want to reside slam-bang in the middle of the city will be opting for pioneer woodlands, while those who want some breath of fresh air and yet still want to be actually close by at the same time would do themselves well with a unit in cambridge village at very reasonable prices. can't wait for the announcement of unit prices as empire east is marketed for middle income earners... :cheers:

Will this be built where the abandoned excavation hole is that is now full of water ?

Hi if anyone is interested, I know a sales director from empire, im also getting a 2br space here, though someone got the space a really wanted in 30th floor yun 34 sqm wala na so 32.5 sqm ako - this is her page -> http://gloria.mdevsite.com (have some pics some details and her contact details)
for those interested let her know na si rommel C. nag refer sa inyo :) would be beneficial for us, right now same price pa ang top floors and below, and may scheme sila na ok (for me) pay 50% dp in 5 years (0 interest) (in my case 14k++/mo) then the remaining 50% after turn over, you can use in house financing or pag ibig etc. of course wala na 0 interest dun sa remaining. hope this helps

Hi if anyone is interested, I know a sales director from empire, im also getting a 2br space here, though someone got the space a really wanted in 30th floor yun 34 sqm wala na so 32.5 sqm ako - this is her page -> http://gloria.mdevsite.com (have some pics some details and her contact details)
for those interested let her know na si rommel C. nag refer sa inyo :) would be beneficial for us, right now same price pa ang top floors and below, and may scheme sila na ok (for me) pay 50% dp in 5 years (0 interest) (in my case 14k++/mo) then the remaining 50% after turn over, you can use in house financing or pag ibig etc. of course wala na 0 interest dun sa remaining. hope this helps

>>hey, how much are the units here? they posted floor layouts, quite a number of choices but not the prices. are they going to have a formal launch soon? :)

btw i'm posting the rendering of pioneer woodlands from your sales director's site. para meron naman dito sa ssc:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9902/pioneerwoodlandspj6.gif

^^ ooh my! empire east sure knows how to pack 'em

Looks pretty dense. The buildings look ok. Maganda yung location talaga ng project na to.

btw i'm posting the rendering of pioneer woodlands from your sales director's site. para meron naman dito sa ssc:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9902/pioneerwoodlandspj6.gif

better than cambridge village,or even csg.

^^ I agree. OK ang design, parang yung mga new housing dev't sa Vietnam or China.

^^ I agree. OK ang design, parang yung mga new housing dev't sa Vietnam or China.

>>ha ha medyo commie block ba ang dating?

i like the roof., empire east is improving., :)

Sure it's commie block :)

Alam nilang maganda yung location, kaya sinamantala nila. Kaya lang kawawa yung makakabili sa pagitan ng magkabilang bulding. Hindi ako magugulat kung tayuan din nila ng buildings yung bakanteng lote. :)

parang building sa simcity ahh...

e di pihadong maganda at masalimuot ang mga l... lifestories ng mga titira dyan he he... parang sin, este, simcity..! :nuts: :lol: :banana:

single, di naman si noraa ang nasa avatar mo ah. unless nagpa-overhaul sya sa tate... (este, joke lang ha. just in case mahal mo na nga sya LOL!!) :banana: :cheers: :lol:

^^^OT: pinalitan ko na dahil baka may magalit:) :) :) Picture ni Jessica Simpson yun na sumisilip yung kanyang hopia :lol: :lol: :lol:

>>hey, how much are the units here? they posted floor layouts, quite a number of choices but not the prices. are they going to have a formal launch soon? :)

hey, right now its 55000 / sqm prices are the same on all floors, i had a new reservation on a 34/sqm area on the 30th floor (pumili ng mas smaller ang dating ng reserve, good for me) - mga 8 rooms lang kasi sa tuktok kaya sulit unlike lower floors mas marami ang kapit bahay

if you want more details you can im me - yahoo lord_romel@yahoo.com (sayang ang referal fee no) :lol:

(bakit nga pala parang down itong site last night)

http://gloria.mdevsite.com/front.jpg
see how the top two or three floors have smaller floor area
http://gloria.mdevsite.com/front2.jpg

http://gloria.mdevsite.com/inside.jpg

there will be a mini-mall at the bottom floors?

wow.. I can imagine the traffic this will add to the currently bad traffic situation on that corner...

http://gloria.mdevsite.com/front.jpg
see how the top two or three floors have smaller floor area
http://gloria.mdevsite.com/front2.jpg



from this angle, they look so much like bellagio 1, 2 & 3... esp the top part

yikes!!! wala nang magandang view ang nasa middle tower.

i don't think they're after the view with this project. its more of the location and the affortability. which is actually both great.

IMHO, this is one of the better design of Empire East. I just don't know if its really "reasonably priced" at 55K/sqm. its almost the same price range of nearby rlc's projects.

^^ Is it really a good move to describe a condo as "cheap"? Why not "reasonably priced", or "affordable".

good point, i don't want to stir-up anybody so my apologies.

any updates? tried to google this project but there's not much info outside of ssc. :ohno: this project is intriguing to say the least, offering affordable units in the middle of the city, even closer to edsa than empire east's other project the CGS, and to be connected to mrt itself!! :banana:

nice design, obviously mass housing---if a developer is going to build what some describe as commie style housing then at least make it look nice and contemporary, that's why I don't understand why other developers can't do the same. In this case it looks nice, just a matter of changing the top/roofline instead of the typical boxy roof lines we often see coming from Philippine developers

This project is not "reasonably affordable", if I may say so.

The only thing going for this project is the proximity to the MRT station, which will get you anywhere. Along EDSA also gets points for this project.

The units may have 2 bedrooms on a 30sqm space, but it is like Cityland's more lower cost projects in Santolan- Pasig Royale and Oxford Mansions. Very small bedrooms and bathroom. Kitchen-dining-sala all in one. At 55T/sqm pre-selling, IMO, it is not cheap (sorry for the word thomasian).

I wonder how much noise pollution there is here considering the traffic in this area? And the real pollution? Good that it has a good design, maybe to address the price range.

I can have better options and better VALUE, IMHO.^^

And, why is the name Pioneer WOODLANDS, mismong sa city center naman??
:ohno:

yeah maybe its not too affordable for a pre selling, for me its just the location and the link to mrt, other condo's costs less like victoria in manila at 1.8 for a loft style, and maybe executive tower 3, im not sure about others, let me know if you guys see other condos near makati that costs less, i intially wanted to get one in rada but its almost finished so its really expensive now and i dont like the inhouse financing of city land so i cant get one in executive tower 3

Pity the condo's in the middle. No view whatsoever. But this is for the middle-end investors/buyers so that would usually be a luxury anyway. Pretty acceptable design too.

i think it's affordable. P1 480 000 for a 26sqm studio.

>>e pumapatak na ngang P1.6M yung 22sqm studio yung manhattan project sa cubao ng sister (parent?) company nitong megaworld. yung maliliit na 2BR baka pwedeng i-convert into 1BR, like yung 30sqm for P1.7M. but of course promo and rebates would be very welcome. :)

Im not sure if the building under construction connected to Boni MRT station will the showroom of this Pioneer Woodlands. The structure is already nearing its completion and the connections is now very visible. I hope upon completion MMDA will demolish the old MRT stair which served as a big obstacle for the pedestrians.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/DSC02449.jpg?t=1186816784

what's the stucture beside the big hole? di kaya mahulog yan sa butas?!

Di ako sure pero parang may isang fastfood chain dun dati, anyway, abandoned na naman yata sya kaya okay lang mahulog sa butas.

^^KFC dati un....

sa pioneer ba ito nakaharap? saang banda yung boni mrt? :)

^^
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/On%20the%20rise/DSC02449.jpg?t=1186816784

Leftmost: side of MRT
Rightmost: Globe Telecom Center (after the whole)
Upper: a for sale property
Bottom: Pioneer Street

thx! here's site devt plan i got from the net:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9602/sitedevplangf6.jpg

^^Nice one, j.r. Kita na rin natin yung developments dito, ang daming buildings pala.

Any other info regarding this project?

Ano kaya yung green patch of land na for future development, is it still Pioneer Woodlands' property??

^^ I think Megaworld/Empire East property, it could be for Woodlands, but can also be for another project.

I noticed on the site development plan posted, the connection to MRT Boni says "New Pioneer Woodlands MRT Station". I guess that means Megaworld will be expanding the Boni MRT Station to Pioneer Woodlands.

yun lang ang swimming pool for all the buildings?

^^Hahaha!!:hahaha: Ang liit naman ng drawing, pero it says lap pool, di ba? And, walang ibang amenities like tennis/badminton/basketball courts, playground, cabanas, etc..??

baka pambata... o for presentation purposes only. yung me makita ka lang na some sort of body of water from your windows to freshen your mind lol! c'mon 'reasonably priced' devt naman sya... pero sana nga magdagdag pa sila ng konting amenities...

masyadong siniksik ang mga buildings.

mukhang yan nga lang ang pool for all :lol:

http://www.globallandrealty.com/pioneerwoodlands.jpg

Pioneer Woodlands daw itatayo sa pics na ito. anybody na may alam ng details ng project kasi maganda ang site


Nice, I can see the Boni MRT Station expansion, courtesy of Pioneer Woodlands. The current escalator and stairs of the northbound side of the station looks so pathetic, even encroaching on the sidewalk for space. Thank God we have this project to give more justice to the lost and forgotten sidewalk on that area.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/pw1.jpg

^^ Thank you. If only the bus was not blocking the sidewalk, you'd see what little space is left of the sidewalk after that MRT Station was put up. :nono:

thx! here's site devt plan i got from the net:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9602/sitedevplangf6.jpg

The space on the lower right that says "NORTH" is the one with the current big hole. Who owns that lot?

^ Nakakatakot tumira sa Tower 7 baka biglang gumuho yung lupa, unless may kasabay na itatayong gusali doon sa malaking hukay.

^^ Manakot daw ba ng potential buyers! :hilarious

yikes the design is definitely my cup of tea. so how big and how much are these units? on a per sq.m.?

from the net:

from the net:

26sqm studio - P 1 480 000

30sqm 2BR - P 1 700 000

32.5sqm - P 1 837 000

34sqm - P 1 920 000

40sqm - P 2 250 000

floor plan:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4836/pioneerwlfloorplanya1.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1739/pioneerwllayout2ph3.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5452/pioneerwllayout3no2.jpg

^^ looks to me like most mega world & empire east projects do not have bigger, more special units at the penthouse level

clearance between bldg 1 and 2 seems to narrow.. parang pwede kayong mag-abutan ng asukal.

any news? update? :)

clearance between bldg 1 and 2 seems to narrow.. parang pwede kayong mag-abutan ng asukal. Ang "sweet", abutan ng asukal. :colgate: Pero di naman ganun kalapit para sa ma-abutan ng asukal (unless si lastikman ang kapitbahay mo), batuhan siguro ng asukal, pwede pa! :D

Saw this ad on the net...

Ad Information
Monthly Rental (Php): 19,425


Selling Price (Php): 1,664.000


Address 1: PIONEER ST. PIONEER EDSA


Address 2: BONI STATION EDSA


City/Municipality: Makati


Province: Metro Manila


No. of Bedrooms: 2 - Bedrooms


No. of Bathrooms: 1 - Bathroom


Leased Type: Any


Furnished: Dont mind


Availability: YES!


Parking: Yes


Floor Area: 30SQM AND UP!!


Condo/Building Name: PIONEER WOODLANDS

Ad Description

When it comes to extraordinary mobility, you have it made at Pioneer Woodlands,
Empire East's first-ever transit-oreinted community.
Strategically set at the junction of Pioneer Avenue and EDSA, and linked to the MRT-3's Boni Station through an exclusive access walkway, your NINE TOWER address grants you total command of the the city. Get to the most important destinations quickly and easily. And with precious time on your hands, take pleasure in what the metro has to offer,
At PIONEER WOODLANDS, live every momemt exceptionaly.


From your home at Pioneer Woodlands,
the most fashionable finds are at your fingertips.
Explore Robinson's Pioneer near by or even
SM Megamall, Robinson's Galleria, Shangri-La Plaza Mall
Greenbelt district, Glorietta and Power Plant Mall.

PIONEER
WOODLANDS
Development Features and Highlights
Two-Bedroom and Studio Units
* Wood grain vynil planks in living, dining, kitchen & Bedroom/sleeping denareas
* Ceramic tiles in toilet & bath
* Custom-built undercounter kitchen cabinets (overhead cabinets are not included)
* Kitchen with mecahnical ventilation
* Toilets with mechanical ventilation
* Provision for air-conditioning opening for bedrooms/sleeping den
Ground Floor
* Residential lobby with receptionist and lounge area
* Three high-speed interior-finished passenger elevators
* Centralized mail room
* Individual mail boxes with keys
Recreational Amenities/Facilities
* Commercial shops @ ground & 2nd floor level of tower 1
* 15-m lap swimming pool,wading pool & paved sunbathing deck
* Changing room w/shower
* Childrens's playground
* Laundromat, Daycare Center and Gymnasium
* Tropical garden deck
Building Facilities/Services
* Automatic fire sprinkler system for all units
* Overhead water tank & underground cistern for ample water supply
* Standby power generator for selected common areas
* Building administration/seciurity office
* Provision for parking at ground floor
* Provision for podium parking for tower 1

Sample Computations:
********************************************************************************
*****************************************************
Option 1) 5years to pay zero interest, Payable in 60 Mos!! NO DOWN!!
Fixed monthly amortization for 60Mos, @ Zero interest!!
26/SQM Studio--1,445,000.00/ P 16,858Mo for 5yrs W/Out interest
*30/SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision--1,665,000.00/ P 19,425mo for 5yrs W/Out interest
40/SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision--2,215,000.00/ P 25,841mo for 5yrs w/Out interest
********************************************************************************
*****************************************************
Option 2) 5years to pay zero interest, payable in 60mos.
Fixed monthly amortization for 60mos, @ zero interest!!
26/SQM Studio--1,445,000.00/ P 24,250mo for 5yrs w/Out interest
*30/SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision-- 1,665,000.00/ P 27,333mo for 5yrs w/Out interest
40/SQM 2BEDROOM W/provision-- 2,215,000.00/ P 37,083.33mo for 5yrs w/Out interset
********************************************************************************
*****************************************************
Option 3) 7 Years to pay, payable in 84Mos.
26/SQM Studio--1,445,000.00/ P 17,054.18Mo

*30/SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision--1,665,000.00/ P 19,589Mo

40/SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision--2,215,000.00/ P 25,926Mo
********************************************************************************
*****************************************************

Option 4) 12 Years to pay, payable in 144Mos.

26/SQM Studio--1,445,000.00/ P 12,858Mo

*30/SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision--1,665,000.00/ P 14,150Mo

40SQM 2BEDROOM w/provision--2,215,000.00/ P 18,728Mo

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1884825066_ee2128e6bd_o.jpg

photo update by franzlouis (http://flickr.com/photos/18438482@N06/)

open na ba ang model unit nito?

where is this building ? Got a web page for it?

As far as i can remember, this is along EDSA cor. Pioneer street, MRT-Boni station. Try to check as well the Megaworld Properties website.

Pioneer Woodlands Boni MRT Station and Showroom.

11.24.07

Nice, it looks even better than the current LRT-2 stations, and the stairs are wide!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/100_9665x.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/?action=view&current=100_9665x.jpg)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/100_9667x.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/?action=view&current=100_9667x.jpg)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/100_9668x.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/?action=view&current=100_9668x.jpg)

The current stairs of the MRT Station encroaching the sidewalk, and blocking almost all of it.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/100_9669x.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/?action=view&current=100_9669x.jpg)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/100_9670x.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/thomasian/?action=view&current=100_9670x.jpg)

Taken 11/22/2007

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/icarus05x/The%20Metro/IMGP0435.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/icarus05x/The%20Metro/IMGP0426.jpg

ang daming pera ng megaworld grabe.. bakit kaya its rumoured na they do not have much liquid assets if they can invest this much... i hope no asian financial crisis part 2 will happen..

edit: i hope it will not look like calif gard sq.. or they can change the colors of the bldg, medyo eye sore ung calif gard sq eh.. pero sabagay, mura naman kc.....

wow nawala ung mrt sa rendering
http://www.philhousing.com/user_images/1410751.jpg

ung mod units, tingnan nyo sa manhattan garden city sa gateway.. mostly ung empire east projects pare-pareho ng unit layout

yeah, whatever happened to MRT on the rendering. di ba dapat selling point to ng Empire East? As did GA?

wala na yung butas..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Pioneer1.jpg

When pala target completion date nito?

Empire East launches 3 condo projects simultaneously
http://www.mb.com.ph/BSNS20080402120799.html


James A. Loyola

Leading mid-income residential condominium developer Empire East Land Holdings Inc. has simultaneously launched its first three transit-oriented projects in San Lorenzo Place, Makati; Pioneer Woodlands, Mandaluyong; and Little Baguio Terraces, San Juan.

"We are the first developer to launch simultaneously three new projects that are not only strategically located, but more importantly, connected to mass transit systems," Empire East President Anthony Charlemagne Yu said.

San Lorenzo Place has a direct connection to the Magallanes MRT station, while Pioneer Woodlands features a concourse level that connects residents directly to the Boni MRT station. Little Baguio Terraces is easily accessible to both the Gilmore and Ruiz stops of the LRT2.

"This way, our future residents will be connected to all spokes of the metro: the workplace, shopping malls, schools, churches and hospitals," said Yu.

He added that these three projects will further bolster Empire East’s standing as the country’s top mid-income developer, noting that the unit sizes, prices, terms of payment and location are especially geared towards starting families and overseas-based Filipinos.

The three projects give Empire East the distinction of having the highest number of transit-oriented projects for any developer in the country today.

San Lorenzo Place will have four towers with 1- to 3-bedroom units while Pioneer Woodlands will consist of nine residential towers offering studio to 2-bedroom units.

Meanwhile, Empire East will construct six residential towers at Little Baguio Terraces, which offers two- and three-bedroom units.

Yu said Pioneer Woodlands boasts of a strategic location that is midway between the Makati and Ortigas business districts. Bonifacio Global City is also readily accessible.

Meanwhile, Little Baguio Terraces is a short train ride away to the emerging business hub at the Araneta Center. Of course, San Lorenzo Place residents are securely within the country’s premier business district.

Empire East is projecting to start construction of Pioneer Woodlands and Little Baguio Terraces late this year, while San Lorenzo Place will break ground next year.

i thought empire east will veer away from the CGS and GGS type of projects. i guess i spoke too soon.
dikit dikit na naman ang mga buildings, parang galit sa lupa. lahat ng patag dapat tayuan tlaga. ang pool ang liit parang sampung lababo lang ang sukat. the space of the units here will defintely look cramped, bec most only a few units will have a view of the makati and antipolo.

^^ i must agree.. with that their project seem low-cost tuloy...

but i guess buyers should not expect too much since the price is less expensive as well, imho..

i don't think so, prices of pioneer woodlands is same lang with other project like trevi, beacon or avida west makati. there are other projects out there that you could get with a view and doesn't look like tenement for the same price or if not lower.

i really hate empire east projects. feeling ko naloloko lang yung mga bumibili ng projects dito.
buidling design wise it is unpleasant,it looks like a massive block along edsa with a splash of paint, and price is definitely NOT low compared to other developers of the same league.

wala na yung butas..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/Pioneer1.jpg


Sa pagkaka-alam ko, yung butas na sinasabi mo ay parte yan ng project nuon ng Pioneer Highlands.
Isang indikasyon na mayroon pa sana itong future expansion.

Nuong late 90's, merong mga ads sa dyaryo na itong Pinooneer Highlands ay magkakaroon ng direct access dyan sa MRT Boni Stations.

Dahil nga sa Empire East - Pioneer Woodlands na ang didiskarte? Malamang matutuloy na rin ang plano dito.

Kung mapapansin mo ang billboard na nakatayo?Ang nakapwesto nuon dyan ay ang KFC Boni Edsa.

Matagal akong nagpadaan-daan dyan. At madalas ko na matambayan(wala o before pa ang KFC) ay ang Orange Julius sa may Robinsons Pioneer.
Dyaan din sa area na yan malapit ang opisina ng Manila Times.

May kahabaan ang istasyon ng MRT Boni Avenue, kaya kung maco-corner lahat ng Pioneer Woodlands ang area na yan, isang maganda o positive economic developments. :cheers: :banana:

base sa Pic. hindi kasama sa project yung naka-fence tama ba? yung dating kinatatayuan ng KFC?

Question po, bakit nila tinabunan uli ung hukay kung maghuhkay din sila para sa project nila...?????

^^ I'm asking the same question.

i thought empire east will veer away from the CGS and GGS type of projects. i guess i spoke too soon.
dikit dikit na naman ang mga buildings, parang galit sa lupa. lahat ng patag dapat tayuan tlaga. ang pool ang liit parang sampung lababo lang ang sukat. the space of the units here will defintely look cramped, bec most only a few units will have a view of the makati and antipolo.

BWAHAHA!:lol:ikaw talaga jzone,pag nag comment ka mas practical masyadong tinitipid nila ang space..ok lang din sa Architect kahit napapalpak na ang design niya:bash:

Question po, bakit nila tinabunan uli ung hukay kung maghuhkay din sila para sa project nila...?????

^^IMO,may instances siguro nag backfill sila uli dahil may mga buried services sa area ng bldg.sinusunod kasi ang municipality sa Excavation stages /earthworks...related din kung anong foundation ang i construct
diyan.:cheers:

Dun sa kalapit na lugar sa Boni Avenue, sa may San Francisco Gardens(Empire East), iyong lupa na kinatitirikan nito. Dati itong malalim at tinambakan na lang. :)

I don't think the hole is in the megaworld lot?

^^IMO,may instances siguro nag backfill sila uli dahil may mga buried services sa area ng bldg.sinusunod kasi ang municipality sa Excavation stages /earthworks...related din kung anong foundation ang i construct
diyan.:cheers:

I believe it's more because of the danger the open pit brings to the existing Pioneer Highlands. It looks like the proposed development on this area (which was originally part of the Highlands complex developed by DMCI) won't push thru anymore.

I wonder who owns this pit/lot now. If Empire East had bought this, and integrated the lot to their project under this thread, perhaps they find it too deep, that's why it was backfilled?

Any info on this guys?

I don't think the hole is in the megaworld lot?

Yep, I don't think it's part of their lot.

"Pasig - Mandaluyong - San Juan
Home to Ortigas, the country's second most important commercial and business district"

SECOND MOST IMPORTANT??? SINONG NAGDUDUNUNG DUNUNGAN KAYA ANG NAKAISIP NG TAG LINE NA ITO?

http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Real%20Estate&p=49&type=2&sec=37&aid=2008082853

Pioneer Woodlands unveils new model unit
Philippine Star
Friday, August 29, 2008

Why do people move into Metro Manila when there’s so much space out there right outside of the city? Because when your work and your lifestyle requires you to be in the urban jungle, it’s always better to have your own place where you work to lessen the stress from all the commute that one has to do.
“With the gas prices still on a high level, residing in the city is more economical in the long run,” Empire East Land Holdings Inc. president Anthony Charlemagne Yu pointed out.
The body needs more than just a place to rest. It needs a home to refresh the mind, a lifestyle that not just keeps the body healthy, but the spirit as well — because, really, living in the fast lane takes its toll. This is why Empire East’s new transit-oriented development, Pioneer Woodlands, is right at the corner of Pioneer St. and EDSA. Empire East designed Pioneer Woodlands with the needs of today’s urbanites as its foremost consideration.
Visit the model units at the showroom towards the Pioneer exit of the Boni MRT station to see the living spaces and all the possibilities that you can do with your residence in Pioneer Woodlands. Convert the studio unit into a one-bedroom, or your one-bedroom to two. Enjoy the views of Makati, Mandaluyong and the vast cityscape outside your window.
The model units show how one can maximize the space for a highly urbanized lifestyle — with enough room to entertain visitors and a room for your own. Condo living here at Pioneer Woodlands is a canvass for self-expression, for your own design and personality, to stamp this place as your own.
Pioneer Woodlands gives the city-dweller the best that city life has to offer. From the contemporary cutting-edge design of each of the nine buildings, this enclave stands out in the concrete jungle of the metropolis. Its location is highly ideal for getting around in the city via MRT 3’s Boni Avenue Station

MORE UPDATES PLEASE. WHEN WILL BE THE PLANNED GROUND BREAKING?

Can someone please provide updates regarding this development?

This project has been very quiet, MW may be selling this abroad and not bothering here. Model unit has been up for some time but no buzz at all. Similar to their other projects in the EE segment.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=423107&publicationSubCategoryId=76

Demand for transit-oriented project rises
Philippine Star
December 12, 2008

Pioneers lead the way and know exactly where they want to be, and where they want to break new ground. Pioneers are people who do something for the first time, and set the trend that the rest of the world will follow. What better place for such trendsetters and trailblazers to be, than in Empire East’s first-ever transit-oriented community, Pioneer Woodlands?

Situated right along EDSA corner Pioneer St. in Mandaluyong City, this development’s sought-after position provides unmatched mobility and ease. An exclusive walkway will lead you from the residences to MRT-3’s Boni Station. From there, you can reach any point along EDSA in minutes.

Also, the MRT-3 connects to the LRT-2 at the Araneta Center, a doorway to both the north and south of Metro Manila. Those with cars will also appreciate their proximity to the Makati and Ortigas CBDs via EDSA. Pioneer Woodlands truly provides one of the most efficient and accessible locations in Metro Manila.

“Due to the strategic location of Pioneer Woodlands and its unmatched accessibility, we have seen demand for this project rise over the past few months,” noted Empire East Land Holdings Inc. president Anthony Charlemagne Yu.

Aside from the ease of mobility afforded by the residence’s excellent spot, you can avoid the rush hour traffic and stressful commutes that has become part of city living. With more time on your hands, you can enjoy a home-cooked meal prepared in a kitchen with the best modern amenities, and served in a cozy, well-lit dining area.

I heard that the ground breaking will be on last week of March 2009 and will manage to meet the turn over time on 2012.

This is a great news. matagal ko na ding hinihintay ang ground breaking para tuloy tuloy na din ang development. Sabagay sandali na lang naman ang 2012.

Damn almost 2 years from launching till ground breaking?
Then another 4 years for construction?

No offense to investors but what's up with this project?

Not that i'm building or favoring up my investment pero the project i got from DMCI:
Started ground breaking upon launch.
and was finished in less than 2 years!

It's immediate connectivity to MRT3 EDSA is it's edge. If not, I have no plan to take 2 units on this project.

i agree, location still rules in each project. though DMCI have good projects but the locations of their projects remains just an alternative to projects of MW, Robinsons and Ayala etc. usually DMCI projects kasi are just near where the action is. but a lot affordable and the turn-over wait is shorter.

What's the connection between the location and the delivery period of the project? Sorry I don't get it.

What I was trying to point out is the overall delivery of this project being TOO long. 6 years is just too unreasonable.

I just used the DMCI project as an example, since both projects are a high rise 30+ story building.

Pioneer Woodlands attracts record buyers (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=433902&publicationSubCategoryId=76)
Updated January 23, 2009 12:00 AM
Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=433902&publicationSubCategoryId=76)

For urban professionals out to conquer the corporate world, time is of the essence. The culture of deadlines, instant messaging and fastfood espouses a “do more in less time” philosophy. In the traffic gridlocked world of Manila, this couldn’t be more true as employees scramble to get to their place of work in as little time as possible in whatever form of transportation available.

With this strong demand for more accessible locations comes a new development by Empire East called Pioneer Woodlands. It is their answer to the highly mobile young professionals who consider ease and freedom of travel as their primary concern. Lying at the corner of Pioneer Street and EDSA right at the center of the metropolis, it holds the key to destinations stretching from the north to the south.

Having its exclusive walkway to the MRT-3 Boni Station, it opens up a myriad of possibilities for the mobile traveler. Makati workers can ride southward until Buendia, Ayala or Magallanes. Those who work in Quezon City or its environs can ride the MRT until North Edsa Station. At the Araneta Center, the MRT-3 connects with the LRT-2, joining the east and west sides of Metro Manila from Santolan to Recto Avenue. Go instantly from Monumento to Baclaran through the LRT-1, which joins the MRT-3 in the south.

“Pioneer Woodlands’ transit-oriented feature means a world of difference for people who value their time and don’t want to stay stuck in traffic.

Move in right here, right now. Call 635-7777 or 631-8855 for a free city tour or log on to www.southforbes.com for more information.

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Empire East's developments are strikingly similar to Megaworld's developments in terms of design. Pioneer Woodlands looks a lot like Megaworld's Manhattan Garden City developments.

Pioneer Woodlands will make that area super dense together with Robinsons' multi building developments (Cybergates etc.) and the proposed Sunshine development.

it's because Empire East is the affordable arm of megaworld.

it's because Empire East is the affordable arm of megaworld.

^^ Is that so? That explains it.

And then there's also Suntrust after Empire East.

Megaworld has so many arms. :lol:

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grabe! very similar to california garden square.parang tenement sa dami ng buildings.

Just see and wait upon completion that that tenement look. May edge din naman ang Empire East- Megaworld dahil they are the only developer na alam kong ang mga projects nila ay naka railconnect sa MRT and their Manhattan Graden is both a minute away na din sa LRt and MRT. They have good project research development designers.

^^ I would have preferred that the buildings be of varying heights to make it more interesting.

I can imagine that it's going to get pretty hot in those units due to the density of the development. How do they expect air, no matter if it's polluted, to circulate?

WHAT'S THE LATEST?

WHAT'S THE LATEST?

^^ I always pass by the area and still no construction activity.

Unprecedented mobility at Pioneer Woodlands (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=443864&publicationSubCategoryId=76)
Updated February 27, 2009 12:00 AM
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This studio unit is now ready for viewing at the Pioneer Woodlands concourse station across the MRT Boni stop.

MANILA, Philippines - While Makati’s Central Business District stands out as the crème de la crème of business districts, it is by not the only one by far. Ortigas Center comes to mind as a close second, with Eastwood City and The Fort as emerging business districts. It would be very hard to plug yourself into one the heart of any of these districts if you might consider working at one place or the other in the future or you happen to conduct your business on all of these locations.

Getting a residence near these business districts may prove to be a good move. You get the convenience of proximity, while you are insulated from the daily hassles. A location that offers first class amenities, and then offers first class transportation choices that get you anywhere is truly something worth considering.

Consider then, Pioneer Woodlands. Situated right along EDSA, with the added convenience of having the Boni MRT station right in front, Pioneer Woodlands offers unprecedented mobility. Close enough the business districts to ensure that you get to work on time, but away enough to enjoy your moments of pleasure when business is the farthest thing on your mind.

This strategic location doesn’t just hand you Makati on a silver platter – which is a convenient 5 minutes away via MRT. It also offers the same easy navigation to Ortigas Center (5 minutes northbound), and Eastwood City and the Fort (direct access to C-5 road via Pioneer Street). Should your business require reaching into the farther corners of the Metro, the MRT interconnects with the LRT 1 and 2 lines serving all corners of the metro.

Schools, places of worship, and leisure centers are within a few minutes drive, which becomes a pleasure as you are situated away from the notorious chokepoints. Nearby landmarks include Lourdes School and church, SM Megamall and Shangri-la Plaza. Robinsons Forum is just across Pioneer Street.

As Empire East Land Holdings Inc. president Anthony Charlemagne Yu said: “At Pioneer Woodlands, the question of ‘How do you go to this place or that’ becomes irrelevant. More appropriately, it becomes ‘Where do you want to go?’ With Pioneer Woodlands’ direct access to the MRT and a shorter driving time to wherever you want – be it Makati, Ortigas, The Fort, or anywhere in between, you won’t find it hard to get out and get back in.”

To take advantage of the strategic location of Pioneer Woodlands, please call Empire East at 810-3333 or visit www.empire-east.com.

Hi Rural village. Mga kelan ang ground breaking ng Pioneer Woodland para tuloy tuloy na ang construction ng Tower 1.

i've been browsing the threads of the three devt.'s that EE launched simultaneously. i was under the impression kasi na kaya siguro di pa na-start ang construction sa Little Baguio Terraces is because priority nila itong bigger project like Woodlands and San Lorenzo pero it turned out na all three of them have no activity going on whatsoever.
what's up with Empire East?

I dialed the 310-3333, the operator said the ground breaking of pioneer woodlands will start this last week of march as they finalizing the schedule.

whats up.

Empire East's developments are strikingly similar to Megaworld's developments in terms of design. Pioneer Woodlands looks a lot like Megaworld's Manhattan Garden City developments.

Pioneer Woodlands will make that area super dense together with Robinsons' multi building developments (Cybergates etc.) and the proposed Sunshine development.

I took a look at their model units and can't believe they squeezed 2BR in 32 sqm. Albeit small they are much better designed though than some 2BR in 40sqm like Hampton.

I live in Cityland Pioneer Street which is just walking distance away. With 3000 units for sale and assuming that only 10% of the owners or tenants goes to work in makati or 300 people (only 1 occupant per unit which is a statistical impossibility), imagine the chaos these 300 people would create in the Boni MRT station when they rush to work at say 8:30AM. Now, imagine further that 600 of the occupants works in Makati.

If we use the same assumption that 10% of the unit owners or tenants drives to Makati. Even if they manage to make the narrow street 4 lane (2 cars each side), imagine what 300 cars could do to the area.

I am not sure where their main parking exit will be but if it is along pioneer street where there current parking entrance is then that spells a lot of traffic trouble. These 300 Makati bound cars have to go beneath the pioneer-boni tunnel to go to Makati from that exit, the road leads to EDSA with no U-turn slot nearby. From that exit, cars have to proceed to EDSA where I am pretty sure Buses plying along EDSA, rushing to the bus stops just after Pioneer St, and which to them is a prime piece of real estate more valuable than the property the Woodlands will stand on, will not readily give way to woodland residents rushing either South (Makati) or North (QC) to work.

So, going to Makati and if you manage to squeeze through to EDSA, you must turn right to Madison Street then right again back to Pioneer St. Only this time, you have to take the Pioneer-Shaw tunnel right underneath EDSA where the common traffic at the exit is sure to become a bottleneck once 300 woodlander decides to pass through it during rush hour. Coming from the tunnel, you will see the light - that you have to turn right on a small Street called Pinatubo and then it dawns on you - again, you find yourself turning right to EDSA competing with buses right in their hometurf (the yellow lane and loading-unloading points).

After the tunnel, if you decide to go straight along BONI to take the Makati-Mandaluyong Bridge towards Makati, well, good luck too. BONI is not known a wide and traffic-free street. But wait til you get near the Makati-Manadaluyong Boundary bridge where you are sure to compete with residents of nearby Tivoli Gardens where I'll bet will house more residents working in Makati than Pioneer Woodlands. And as if Makati Avenue can take more traffic.

And Pioneer woodlands' geography does not allow its occupants to go straight under the tunnel. If it provides for an exit along EDSA, then residents are just a little luckier having to squeeze through to EDSA just once. But I don't see that in their plans. But I hope they have an entrance along EDSA otherwise those coming home from the South(Makati), you have to compete with thousands of tired and additional homebound residents of Gateway Garden Ridge, Gateway Garden Heights, Gateway Residences, One Gateway Place, Two GAteway Palce, etc. and the rest of the new building just behind Robinson's Pioneer. The now narrow street where traffic is complicated by u-turns simply cannot accomodate the huge traffic to be created by the Multiple Robinsons Pioneer Complex High Rise Projects alone.

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The same if you are returning from the North. You have to turn right just before or after BONI to take the tunnel home. With buses weacing in and out of unloading points, with private vehicles coming out of Pinatubo St besides GA Tower and from BONI to EDSA, making a right to get to the tunnel is no easy task and this is the now - not the future where woodland and gateway garden will add to the traffic in no small way.

And making the u-turn home along Pioneer St may still prove to be the largest debacle. So near and yet so far - thanks to traffic.

From the North, you can avoid the tunnel by taking a longer route via Ortigas Flyover then Meralco Avenue-Shaw-Pioneer or Flyover-Julia Vargas-San Miguel Ave-Sheridan-United-Pioneer. But avoiding the tunnel does not mean you can get home traffic-free. Just browse around and see the numerous just-finished and soon-to-finish projects in the Ortigas Business District and you will know what I mean.

Before you buy a unit in today;s congested area, consider the traffic problems so your Christmas will still have some semblance of Happiness left.

I am not a broker. Not a Developer. Not related to either. Have no interests whatesoever in any projects or personalties behind, in front, or beside, whatsover. The opinions above are strictly my personal view. Surely, there are pros and cons in owning a unit virtually any other areas.

PS. There is also no truth to the rumor that I am behind Camella Homes New bulilit commercial.
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Good news for investors here! see below:

Empire East to spend P10 billion on new projects (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=476073&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña Updated June 10, 2009 12:00 AM
Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=476073&publicationSubCategoryId=66)

MANILA, Philippines - Empire East Land Holdings Inc., a subsidiary of upscale real estate developer Megaworld Corp., is spending up to P10 billion over the next five years for the construction of new residential units and acquisition of additional properties to ensure continued growth.

At the sidelines of the company’s annual stockholders’ meeting yesterday, Empire East president Anthony Charlemagne Yu said the company is going full blast with its construction activities in spite of the economic downturn.

“Your company is looking ahead with a sense of optimism. With its proven track record, it is confident that when the economic tide reverses, it will emerge stronger and more successful than ever,” Yu told stockholders.

He said the company also continues to scout for properties, preferably those close to mass transit systems to further beef up its landbank which currently stands at 450 hectares (worth P3 billion).

Empire East has been acquiring properties either through outright acquisitions or joint venture arrangements with landowners. It intends to have sufficient properties for development in the next five to 10 years.

Yu said the company continues to defy the global economic crisis with reservation sales growing 32 percent in the first five months of the year to P1.6 billion, compared with P1.2 billion in the same period last year.

“We’ve seen record-breaking sales since the start of the year. Demand is coming from local buyers,” he said.

Empire East is currently developing three new residential condominium projects estimated to generate P18 billion in sales. These projects include the nine-tower Pioneer Woodlands in Mandaluyong, the six-cluster Little Baguio Terraces in San Juan, and the four-tower San Lorenzo Place in Makati City.

To take advantage of the resilient demand for affordable to middle-income housing, Empire East is building The Sonoma, a 50-hectare community in Sta. Rosa, Laguna that will offer 1,148 prime lots in three residential phases.

Yu said the firm’s five-year capital expenditure program will be funded by internally-generated cash.

Empire East’s expected collections of P2 billion, in addition to the existing cash balance, would be sufficient to cover the construction and development of projects, acquisition of properties and settlement of obligations/ operating overhead.

To survive the tough business environment, the company continuously offers competitive prices, more lenient payment schemes under in-house financing. It also has strong tie-ups with reputable banks for the financing requirements of its buyers.

Aside from this, the company has stepped up its marketing activities to reach a broader market base.

Last year, Empire East reported a 30 percent drop in net profit to P215.54 million as revenues declined 37 percent.

Consolidated revenues, composed of real estate sales, interest income, commissions and other revenues, amounted to P1.98 billion as against P3.14 billion in 2007.

Location attracts Woodlands buyers (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=476733&publicationSubCategoryId=76)
Updated June 12, 2009 12:00 AM
Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=476733&publicationSubCategoryId=76)

MANILA, Philippines - For parents whose kids are about to start classes, a suitable, relaxing and well-located home is the key to a stress-free academic and domestic life. Pioneer Woodlands, brought to us by Empire East, is an excellent choice for students and families. It is the first transit-oriented development that makes choosing and going to school quick, efficient and fun.

Grade school and high school students will enjoy both quality time at home and quality education by living at Pioneer Woodlands. Some of the exclusive schools nearby include the Lourdes School, Poveda Learning Center and La Salle Greenhills. For college students, University of Asia and the Pacific is quite near.

Finding a good school isn’t easy, especially if you live in an area surrounded by traffic and far from good schools. Pioneer Woodlands is located at the corner of EDSA and Pioneer Avenue, and has an exclusive access walkway to the MRT3 Boni Station. This is perfect for college students who need to commute.

The development is only one station away from the Shangri-La Mall where students can enjoy hanging out with some friends after class or their families during weekends.

With exclusive schools near its immediate vicinity and major institutions within easy reach because of the train lines, Pioneer Woodlands is indeed a very wise choice for parents. Call 810-3333 or visit www.empire-east.com for more information on Pioneer Woodlands.

No offense to people working for this company, but in all honesty this place has a lot of factors involved which ring true about the already congested traffic with the small Pioneer Street. Its a hassle enough to just go to Globe Telecom Plaza from Madison Street (its a small street) and yet they're building so many buildings along Pioneer Street? That's disastrous!

The problem my parents have with the condo in Pioneer Highlands is that there is no one renting our fully furnished one bedroom - a fully furnished studio unit is the quickest type of condo unit that is rented out fast when the demand is high. However, since the onset of other condos in the vicinity like Robinson's land, the unit has been vacated. Now imagine these buildings up in a few years time! The property value would have depreciated and no one will be renting our unit because there are so many smaller ones! The one bedroom is 40sqm - I was surprised that Pioneer Woodlands offers a 32sqm 2 bedroom! My goodness, is that for really small people skinny people?

Geez the potential buyers should really look at the infrastructure around the area! The roads are tiny, its bloody noisy with the buses honking all the time (and it echoes in the MRT Boni Station walkways) and the streets are not well paved and only designed for minimal usage - not this colossal place with lots of buildings in one place.

What I hate about real estate projects like these is that it might just go to waste and its a pity because its a nice design. They should concentrate more on quality and space - believe me, living in a 40sqm one bedroom is tight and not having enough walking space downstairs around the amenities area and just having to go through noisy and dirty streets just to reach MRT and go to Megamall or Greenbelt in Ayala Center is a hassle. There's no room to breathe and at the end of the day you just feel a bit stressed out having to be in a jungle of concrete, too many people, noise pollution (and I mean a lot) and worse just not really enjoying yourself.

AND NO this response is not because I work for Filinvest - we bought our condo unit in Pioneer Highlands back in 1996/1997 when ALL the area around Pioneer was bought by that company and that there was supposed to be a direct mall and walkway straight to our buildings. Unfortunately, one building was sold off (now its called Globe Telecom Plaza) and the lands surrounding the building were also sold off due to the 1997 economic bubble bursting. The design for the whole Boni MRT area leading to Pioneer is just a nice big mall (bigger than Robinsons Pioneer Mall) with massive condominiums like Pioneer Highlands as the highlight. I think there was supposed to be another two massive buildings (the big hole if anyone remembers that) but yeah unfortunately now we have this.

Plmetzen

No offense to people working for this company, but in all honesty this place has a lot of factors involved which ring true about the already congested traffic with the small Pioneer Street. Its a hassle enough to just go to Globe Telecom Plaza from Madison Street (its a small street) and yet they're building so many buildings along Pioneer Street? That's disastrous!

The problem my parents have with the condo in Pioneer Highlands is that there is no one renting our fully furnished one bedroom - a fully furnished studio unit is the quickest type of condo unit that is rented out fast when the demand is high. However, since the onset of other condos in the vicinity like Robinson's land, the unit has been vacated. Now imagine these buildings up in a few years time! The property value would have depreciated and no one will be renting our unit because there are so many smaller ones! The one bedroom is 40sqm - I was surprised that Pioneer Woodlands offers a 32sqm 2 bedroom! My goodness, is that for really small people skinny people?

Geez the potential buyers should really look at the infrastructure around the area! The roads are tiny, its bloody noisy with the buses honking all the time (and it echoes in the MRT Boni Station walkways) and the streets are not well paved and only designed for minimal usage - not this colossal place with lots of buildings in one place.

What I hate about real estate projects like these is that it might just go to waste and its a pity because its a nice design. They should concentrate more on quality and space - believe me, living in a 40sqm one bedroom is tight and not having enough walking space downstairs around the amenities area and just having to go through noisy and dirty streets just to reach MRT and go to Megamall or Greenbelt in Ayala Center is a hassle. There's no room to breathe and at the end of the day you just feel a bit stressed out having to be in a jungle of concrete, too many people, noise pollution (and I mean a lot) and worse just not really enjoying yourself.

AND NO this response is not because I work for Filinvest - we bought our condo unit in Pioneer Highlands back in 1996/1997 when ALL the area around Pioneer was bought by that company and that there was supposed to be a direct mall and walkway straight to our buildings. Unfortunately, one building was sold off (now its called Globe Telecom Plaza) and the lands surrounding the building were also sold off due to the 1997 economic bubble bursting. The design for the whole Boni MRT area leading to Pioneer is just a nice big mall (bigger than Robinsons Pioneer Mall) with massive condominiums like Pioneer Highlands as the highlight. I think there was supposed to be another two massive buildings (the big hole if anyone remembers that) but yeah unfortunately now we have this.

Plmetzen

Exactly my concern - I bought a condo unit in Pioneer Pointe, a Filinvest project beside CItyland and in front of HMR. I love the location, minutes away from Makati, Fort Bonifacio and Ortigas. Traffic get's bad sometimes, but it is bearable.

I can just imagine however how the traffic will be when these clusters of buildings are finished, and there is a surge in the concentration of people in that part of Pioneer. Buti na lang sa looban kami, pero affected pa din kung palabas ng EDSA.

I hear Robinsons plans to build a parallel street to Pioneer (yung rocky portion, at the back of Robinsons Pioneer). Hopefully, this helps the traffic congestion.

Location attracts Woodlands buyers (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=476733&publicationSubCategoryId=76)
Updated June 12, 2009 12:00 AM
Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=476733&publicationSubCategoryId=76)

MANILA, Philippines - For parents whose kids are about to start classes, a suitable, relaxing and well-located home is the key to a stress-free academic and domestic life. Pioneer Woodlands, brought to us by Empire East, is an excellent choice for students and families. It is the first transit-oriented development that makes choosing and going to school quick, efficient and fun.

Grade school and high school students will enjoy both quality time at home and quality education by living at Pioneer Woodlands. Some of the exclusive schools nearby include the Lourdes School, Poveda Learning Center and La Salle Greenhills. For college students, University of Asia and the Pacific is quite near.

Finding a good school isn’t easy, especially if you live in an area surrounded by traffic and far from good schools. Pioneer Woodlands is located at the corner of EDSA and Pioneer Avenue, and has an exclusive access walkway to the MRT3 Boni Station. This is perfect for college students who need to commute.

The development is only one station away from the Shangri-La Mall where students can enjoy hanging out with some friends after class or their families during weekends.

With exclusive schools near its immediate vicinity and major institutions within easy reach because of the train lines, Pioneer Woodlands is indeed a very wise choice for parents. Call 810-3333 or visit www.empire-east.com for more information on Pioneer Woodlands.

Can you please update us on when will be the ground breaking. will they meet the the turnover date 2010????

:ohno: I don't think they will be able to meet their 2010 turnover date. There is no construction activity happening yet. The only thing you can find is their newly inaugurate showroom and sales agent giving flyers :lol::lol:

Pioneer Woodlands attracts mobile set (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=489613&publicationSubCategoryId=76)
Updated July 24, 2009 12:00 AM
Philstar.com (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=489613&publicationSubCategoryId=76)

MANILA, Philippines - Yes, one can have a nearly stress-free life and be mobile in the city at the same time. It sounds nearly impossible, with all the traffic out on the roads and hundreds of thousands of commuters out there with you. But it can happen. The secret is finding the right location that is the perfect fit for both work and lifestyle.

Once you got the location for your home base, everything else will follow. “You need to find a home right where you need it to be,” declared Empire East Land Holdings president Anthony Charlemagne Yu. “And if you work and play in the city, it’s so much better if your home is ideally located. One such residence is Pioneer Woodlands.”

Empire East’s Pioneer Woodlands makes the daunting — and stressful — attempt on embarking a mobile lifestyle easier to attain. With its location at the Boni MRT station, near Forum Robinsons mall, you can see just how easy it is to hop on a train and go on any direction as you wish. Its location is highly ideal for getting around in the city. Smack dab in the midpoint of EDSA, it’s right in the middle of the Metro Manila’s main business and commercial centers — Ortigas Center and Makati City.

To become one of the mobile set at Pioneer Woodlands, please call Empire East at 810-3333 or check out www.empire-east.com. Or visit the Pioneer Woodlands showroom at the MRT Boni Station after your fast train ride.

Good news:

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/Pioneerwoodlands.jpg

Finally, nag-groundbreaking na last Friday, August 14!!!!! :banana:

Yes po, Pioneer woodlands model units are already open.
justinecdelacruz@yahoo.com.ph - for inquiry

Hi Im offering Condo Unit Makati Area, Madaluyong Area, Pasig Area and New Manila
justinecdelacruz@yahoo.com.ph

Malapit na mag hukay sa site... Inaalis na yun water tank at billboard sa Pioneer.

Malapit na mag hukay sa site... Inaalis na yun water tank at billboard sa Pioneer.


Finally!!!!

Finally!!!!

:banana::banana::banana:
Siguro deep excavation na sa november......... Saka pala dun sa baba ng Pioneer Woodlands sana matuloy yun 7:11 na gagawin nila...

:banana::banana::banana:
Siguro deep excavation na sa november......... Saka pala dun sa baba ng Pioneer Woodlands sana matuloy yun 7:11 na gagawin nila...

I understand from my agent that McDonald's also has a plan of getting space doon sa ibaba. Although I am not sure how true that is since there is already one across the street.

I passed by the area last night and there were already heavy equipment breaking up the cemented areas of the lot. Muntik na ako maluha sa tuwa. :lol::lol::lol:

I understand from my agent that McDonald's also has a plan of getting space doon sa ibaba. Although I am not sure how true that is since there is already one across the street.

I passed by the area last night and there were already heavy equipment breaking up the cemented areas of the lot. Muntik na ako maluha sa tuwa. :lol::lol::lol:

hahahah ganun ba.... salamat sa info di pa kasi ako nakakpunta dun once a month lng kasi sched namin dun..... so for now d ko alam... hehehe.... salamat

:banana::banana::banana:
Siguro deep excavation na sa november......... Saka pala dun sa baba ng Pioneer Woodlands sana matuloy yun 7:11 na gagawin nila...

they started the excavation.

they started the excavation.

YEAH!!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Commercial lang......

Still On going our 3 pre-sellng project discounts

San Lorenzo Place, Makati transit-oriented to MRT Magallanes Station 2% discount from TCP
High Rise Condoinium, 4 Towers, Facing Manila Bay Sunset, Makati CBD and The Fort
2 level Mall
Unit type: 1 Bedroom, 2 Bedrooms, and 3 Bedrooms combine

Pioneer Woodlands, Mandaluyong transit oriented to MRT-Boni Ave Station
Status- already done for ground breaking - discount 3% from TCP
Unit type: studio, 2 Bedrooms, and 3 bedrooms combine

Little Baguio Terraces, San Juan between N.Domingo and Aurora Blvd. Near at broadway Centrum, New Manila, Mt. Carmel Chruch, Gilmore, St. Paul College
Discount: 10% for 2 bedrooms
15% for 3 bedrooms

reservation: Php 10,000



Thank u very much....
For any questions and site viewing u can
email me: condoeast@yahoo.com

just curious, how much na ang selling price ng 2BR unit sa LBT? How about the 3BR?

sold out na ba ang cluster one? anong cluster na ba ang on offer at the moment? TIA.

just curious, how much na ang selling price ng 2BR unit sa LBT? How about the 3BR?

sold out na ba ang cluster one? anong cluster na ba ang on offer at the moment? TIA.

kaka open pa lang ng cluster 4 last week
di pa po sold out ang cluster 1 pero unti na lang ang units daw dun. wala pa ako kasi nagiging client dun e. pero most likely nung nag 10% e madami kumuha ng units
Php 2,475,500 2BR 30sq.m , 3BR 4,951,000 combine 60sq.m f as of july 4 2008

Update in Excavation on Pioneer Woodlands.

September 2009
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October 2009

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kaka open pa lang ng cluster 4 last week
di pa po sold out ang cluster 1 pero unti na lang ang units daw dun. wala pa ako kasi nagiging client dun e. pero most likely nung nag 10% e madami kumuha ng units
Php 2,475,500 2BR 30sq.m , 3BR 4,951,000 combine 60sq.m f as of july 4 2008

What? How can you live in a two Bedroom unit with 30 sq.m. floor area? Obviously this developer doesn't care about human comfort and only care how to make profit. I don't like cluster or tenement style development, it will become over crowded, because working class owners will tend to space rent their units and that becomes a security and maintenance problem.

What? How can you live in a two Bedroom unit with 30 sq.m. floor area? Obviously this developer doesn't care about human comfort and only care how to make profit. I don't like cluster or tenement style development, it will become over crowded, because working class owners will tend to space rent their units and that becomes a security and maintenance problem.

it's different between tenement and a cluster sir. its a mid-rise condo. consisting only 6 towers and only 10 floors sir. and the project targeted the middle income people like OFW and other investors. kaya nga po may 60 sq.m po para if they want much more space edi may 60 sq.m..di naman ito high class condominium.

FYI im not mad. im just explaining.... Thank u

To be fair with EE, ang slant naman ng marketing nila with LBT is more on the mobility and accessibility that the devt. offers. If you look at the features and amenities, it's really a no frills, down to earth project.
Different buyers look for different things when purchasing a property. I guess EE has already defined their market early in the planning stage and for sure buyers have already taken all these things into consideration before taking the plunge.

What? How can you live in a two Bedroom unit with 30 sq.m. floor area? Obviously this developer doesn't care about human comfort and only care how to make profit. I don't like cluster or tenement style development, it will become over crowded, because working class owners will tend to space rent their units and that becomes a security and maintenance problem.

Not to mention the noise from the traffic. It is horrendous and we live in Pioneer renting out a unit. GA Towers already looks like a tenement what with the laundry being flown outside their windows.

If you want to invest to rent out and not staying there it would be the way to go....as for comfort there is none. Can't wait to take a tour of both it and GA. :lol:

^^ Yes they will do that kind of stuff once they cannot afford to pay for laundry. We already have a lot of squatter area in the Capital Manila now we are going to see unsightly buildings because of 'sinampay' in addition to huge billboards.:ohno:

Here's a photo of how the construction site looks today (Oct. 18, 2009)

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/NotreDame14_2009/IMG_0584-1.jpg

and a closer look of the first tenant:

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/NotreDame14_2009/IMG_0588-1.jpg

^^:banana:

^^ That's a good one!:lol:

I am just wondering if there are different home owners association in Pioneer Woodlands? If this is true, can someone tell me more about them (e.g. monthly dues, benefits). Thanks!

^^ Yes they will do that kind of stuff once they cannot afford to pay for laundry. We already have a lot of squatter area in the Capital Manila now we are going to see unsightly buildings because of 'sinampay' in addition to huge billboards.:ohno:



the downside of condo living I guess...

^^ Yes they will do that kind of stuff once they cannot afford to pay for laundry. We already have a lot of squatter area in the Capital Manila now we are going to see unsightly buildings because of 'sinampay' in addition to huge billboards.:ohno:

OT: Baka walang laundry shop sa building. Here where I live, bawal ang magsampay malapit sa window pero we have several laundry shops sa commercial area. And the price is only 25-30/k, very affordable.

Here's a photo of how the construction site looks today (Oct. 18, 2009)

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/NotreDame14_2009/IMG_0584-1.jpg

and a closer look of the first tenant:

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu236/NotreDame14_2009/IMG_0588-1.jpg

^^:banana:

i do hope na tuloy-tuloy na yung construction and not just for show considering that SMDC will develop an adjacent property.

I can not help but comment that living next to a construction site is a nightmare! They kept pounding away til late 12 midnight and in some occasion, past 2:00 A.M. Is there a law that prohibits excessive noise??

The drilling started again at 6 or 7 in the morning today and the workers relentless hammers away the earth with their one mini 'drilling machine.' The noise is unbearable!!!! I would think that the developer does not care about his surrounding environ. I wonder if they have ever lived next to a construction site and slept soundlessly through the night or stayed in a room trying as much to concentrate reading a book in preparation for a major examination in school despite this unbearable.... annoying...... Aggravating background NOISE?? I think this is an issue they should be concerned about. tsk tsk tsk.
^^
:ohno:
:mad2:

It's God's day for rest but not here in Pioneer Highlands or for the construction workers of Pioneer Woodlands. They have 2 pile drivers delivering hundreds of strokes against boulders per minute. The noise is unbearable. There has been numerous complaints including ours and we hope there would be equitable solution to this problem. Surely development can coexist with existing residences in a community. This is a problem which will no doubt come up again and again in the tight confines of Metro Manila. It is something that all potential buyers should be concerned with when examining new properties. Ask yourselves, "Is the lot next door going to be developed?"

The property values here have gone down as a result and I would not be surprised if some owners seek a remedy in the court system. We should not have to suffer because some builders give their clients building deadlines which can not be reached. Should we?

The time right now is 12:30 A.M.

^^ thanks for this update. surely, a campaign by the residents must be started to negotiate a time for construction to ensue. hopefully, both will be amicable to whatever is the result.

A good day to all. How's the development going in this project? Has anyone passed by the area and taken some shots recently. Thanks

from the net:

26sqm studio - P 1 480 000

30sqm 2BR - P 1 700 000

32.5sqm - P 1 837 000

34sqm - P 1 920 000

40sqm - P 2 250 000

I got this from the net also comparing it to price above posted way back in 2007 on this same thread.

26sq.m studio unit worth 2.2M

30sq.m 2Bedroom worth 2.6M

38sq.m. 2Bedroom, worth 2.9M

40sq.m 2Bedroom, worth 3.4M

In just two years ang laki ng price appreciation ng project na ito. What's more yun katabing SMDC project (Light Residence) might further appreciate yun surrounding condo units.

A good day to all. How's the development going in this project? Has anyone passed by the area and taken some shots recently. Thanks

Well, I can hear digging and heavy equipment moving everytime I pass by the area. Nasa GA Tower kasi ako ngayon kaya araw araw ko nadadaanan yung construction site.

I got this from the net also comparing it to price above posted way back in 2007 on this same thread.

26sq.m studio unit worth 2.2M

30sq.m 2Bedroom worth 2.6M

38sq.m. 2Bedroom, worth 2.9M

40sq.m 2Bedroom, worth 3.4M

In just two years ang laki ng price appreciation ng project na ito. What's more yun katabing SMDC project (Light Residence) might further appreciate yun surrounding condo units.


That is sooo true. I got my unit during the 2nd quarter of 2008 (i think it was a 40sq m unit), and the price was already 3.2M

Construction update Dec 2, 2009

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^^ Wow medyo mabilis yun paglatag ng foundation ha.. most probably na pre-pressure na yun developer dahil sa neighbor nilang sm light residence... he..he.. :lol:

^^ Wow medyo mabilis yun paglatag ng foundation ha.. most probably na pre-pressure na yun developer dahil sa neighbor nilang sm light residence... he..he.. :lol:

Sa sobrang kakamadali, it's creating too much of a noise (!!!!!!!!!). Insensitive ang management nila. Very insensitive!

^^ ang bilis :)

I got this from the net also comparing it to price above posted way back in 2007 on this same thread.

26sq.m studio unit worth 2.2M

30sq.m 2Bedroom worth 2.6M

38sq.m. 2Bedroom, worth 2.9M

40sq.m 2Bedroom, worth 3.4M

In just two years ang laki ng price appreciation ng project na ito. What's more yun katabing SMDC project (Light Residence) might further appreciate yun surrounding condo units.


Light Residence's 20sqm studio is around 1.5 million+

it's up to the buyer na lang kung ano pipiliin nya :)

Hi everyone! i'm new in this forum. it seems that there are a lot of experts here =) i am choosing between pioneer woodlands and light residences, what do you think would be the advantage of choosing pioneer woodlands over light residences? thanks a lot!

site update
16 Dec 2009

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Hi everyone! i'm new in this forum. it seems that there are a lot of experts here =) i am choosing between pioneer woodlands and light residences, what do you think would be the advantage of choosing pioneer woodlands over light residences? thanks a lot!


Based from the pricing ( if accurate ) shown above of Pioneer Woodlands I find it pricey compared to Light Residences. Payment plan of Light's is affordable at 0% interest rate for 3 years however afterwards they only offer bank financing of up to 15 years and no option for Pag-Ibig in case your also considering that.

I would choose Lights because first of all its made by SM, enough said :)

Based from the pricing ( if accurate ) shown above of Pioneer Woodlands I find it pricey compared to Light Residences. Payment plan of Light's is affordable at 0% interest rate for 3 years however afterwards they only offer bank financing of up to 15 years and no option for Pag-Ibig in case your also considering that.

I would choose Lights because first of all its made by SM, enough said :)

It's not to pricey nag value appriciated lang ang mga units dito di naman pwede ibaba ng company ang price to compete with light residence magagalit ang mga nag invest dito nung mga una pa dahil mas nakuha nila ito ng mas mababa.. yeah SM have a lower pricing by now pero in the end mag hhigh din ito ng value.. kaya nga investment..... We have 0% interest scheme too.... it's 4 years... ..
well nasa mga investor's and buyers naman kung ano gusto nila piliin e....

Happy Christmas to all na lang.............................................

@Condoeast - just my own opinion lang sir no harm meant nor to offend anyone most especially yun mga connected sa Empire East dito :)

Merry Christmas rin Sir and thanks din sa mga email mo before :)

my opinion...

mas low-density ang floor plan ng pioneer woodlands...

as for light residences mas high-dense...

as for payment terms, mas attractive ang terms ng SM. It really feels like the Sy's are giving pabahay to all. 20% in 3 years and no interest and no lump sum is amazing.

Light Residences is also priced lower, hence investor friendly. Its made by SM, so we expect good quality. Empire East however has bad reps from their projects in the past, with poor quality and maintenance. But imho, since Megaworld has money now, they are making very good project nowadays much like the bellagio.

But both are low-end projects, so do not expect high-end quality. SMDC can be the best rival of the Avida market. Empire East, well, they really have to prove that they can deliver what they promise..

my two cents...

very nice opinion @ sir leechtat!

OT: btw, what can you say about Robinson's land? I dont hear much about their projects

Merry Christmas To all.......

Hi everyone! happy new year. thank you wantacondo and leechtat for your replies. i have considered what you said. however, it's funny (to me, that is) when wantacondo said, it's SM, all said... kasi that's precisely the reason why i'm hesitant about light - it's by SM.

aside from the fact that SM is a company known to shortchange its suppliers and employees, it's also because - pardon me i do not wish to start anything here - there has been a lot of serious complaints about mezza, and also, my brother knows some engineers involved in sm projects and well, di maganda feedback nila about sm projects, and based on what i heard i'm kinda scared to invest in an SM project.but that's just me =)

anyway, thanks again for your replies and i'll continue watching the thread. good day to all!

Hi everyone! happy new year. thank you wantacondo and leechtat for your replies. i have considered what you said. however, it's funny (to me, that is) when wantacondo said, it's SM, all said... kasi that's precisely the reason why i'm hesitant about light - it's by SM.

aside from the fact that SM is a company known to shortchange its suppliers and employees, it's also because - pardon me i do not wish to start anything here - there has been a lot of serious complaints about mezza, and also, my brother knows some engineers involved in sm projects and well, di maganda feedback nila about sm projects, and based on what i heard i'm kinda scared to invest in an SM project.but that's just me =)

anyway, thanks again for your replies and i'll continue watching the thread. good day to all!

replied regarding this sa Light Forum

thanks.. Cheers :)

Hi everyone! happy new year. thank you wantacondo and leechtat for your replies. i have considered what you said. however, it's funny (to me, that is) when wantacondo said, it's SM, all said... kasi that's precisely the reason why i'm hesitant about light - it's by SM.

aside from the fact that SM is a company known to shortchange its suppliers and employees, it's also because - pardon me i do not wish to start anything here - there has been a lot of serious complaints about mezza, and also, my brother knows some engineers involved in sm projects and well, di maganda feedback nila about sm projects, and based on what i heard i'm kinda scared to invest in an SM project.but that's just me =)

anyway, thanks again for your replies and i'll continue watching the thread. good day to all!


You may say anything you want in this forum Ma'am / Sir ( as long as your not going to curse at somebody or is that also allowed? :lol: :lol: :lol: ) so it's ok to post anything you've heard and complaints about SMDC if there were any.

Honestly it's just me saying "that its SM" because I trust them which I haven't heard anything bad about this "giant".

If you may also check the Cambridge Village thread you may actually see members posting everything there :)

Di kaya maunahan pa nga light residences ang pioneer woodlands sa pag tayo ng unang condo?

Pardon me if I say this,I think its more reliable if you hear the complaints from the unit owners themselves but instead,SMDC unit owners are buying their next condo from the same developer.I hope you see the point.

PLEASE Go to the right thread lang.....

Peace.....:banana::banana::banana:

PLEASE Go to the right thread lang.....

Peace.....:banana::banana::banana:

This is a forum....and as you see,Mezza is also mention here and its not even its thread.:)

Pardon me if I say this,I think its more reliable if you hear the complaints from the unit owners themselves but instead,SMDC unit owners are buying their next condo from the same developer.I hope you see the point.


Hi baphi. could you clarify? SMDC unit owners buying from the same developer - meaning SM again or same developer as the subject in this thread - pioneer woodlands (meaning empire east)?

You may say anything you want in this forum Ma'am / Sir ( as long as your not going to curse at somebody or is that also allowed? :lol: :lol: :lol: ) so it's ok to post anything you've heard and complaints about SMDC if there were any.

Honestly it's just me saying "that its SM" because I trust them which I haven't heard anything bad about this "giant".

If you may also check the Cambridge Village thread you may actually see members posting everything there :)

I understand what you mean about cambridge, even the broker that i spoke to does not recommend that development.

With SM, the problems that i've been told about are structural-related so I am more scared (since the feedback came from engineers). a cousin of mine viewed one project that they are considering. the project is quite new and already has crack on the walls. and also to consider is the fact that SM is new and most of their projects are still in the pre-selling stage. so we have yet some years to find out how their projects really perform in all aspects (maintenance, building structure, etc.)


but then again, I do acknowledge the fact that SM's projects are very attractive and there will be no doubt about the success of their projects.

thanks and good day!

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I understand what you mean about cambridge, even the broker that i spoke to does not recommend that development.

With SM, the problems that i've been told about are structural-related so I am more scared (since the feedback came from engineers). a cousin of mine viewed one project that they are considering. the project is quite new and already has crack on the walls. and also to consider is the fact that SM is new and most of their projects are still in the pre-selling stage. so we have yet some years to find out how their projects really perform in all aspects (maintenance, building structure, etc.)


but then again, I do acknowledge the fact that SM's projects are very attractive and there will be no doubt about the success of their projects.

thanks and good day!

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Papuntahin mo dito yang engineer na yan then maniniwala ako sayo. Kung nagkamali sila sa MEZA, hindi ibigsabihin mangyayari dn yan sa iba pa nilang PROJECT..

EMPIRE EAST - BAD MAINTENANCE... tulad na nga sa CV... then ung mga condos nila, halos lahat MAGKAKADIKIT ANG MGA BUILDING NILA.. mas malaki ang LAND ng LIGHT pero sa PIONEER WOODLANDS, 9 BUILDINGS ang iatatayo.. WOW, i mean WOW real WOW.. pero 6 n lang ata but still, pinilit pagkasyahin lahat...

last, may kabigan akong agent sa PIONEER, sya mismo nagsabi sakin na natatalo sila ng LIGHT kaya bigla nila sinimulan ang construction. ginagawa daw nila para siraan ang SMDC.. kasi alam nila na mas maraming bibili sa LIGHT.

bow

@dealsandsteals - most condominium nowadays offer pre selling and not just from SMDC alone.

about the cracks though yun nagsabi nun they need to prove it. So far if titingna mo mga malls ng SM ok lahat, haven't seen their residential projects yet

sorry for the OT

@dealsandsteals - most condominium nowadays offer pre selling and not just from SMDC alone.

about the cracks though yun nagsabi nun they need to prove it. So far if titingna mo mga malls ng SM ok lahat, haven't seen their residential projects yet

sorry for the OT

wantacondo - you misunderstood what i wrote. of course all developers sell at preselling and i think everyone knows that fact :) why else are we talking about pioneer woodlands? :) what i meant by writing that most SMDC projects are still in the pre-selling stage is that they don't have any residential project that's been around for a while so one cannot be definite if they are indeed good and reliable in terms of maintenance. in short, they don't have track record yet.

also, SM Malls and SMDC projects might not be comparable in terms of the variables we are discussing because the malls were constructed by other construction companies. if i will go with your thinking, however, i think that should the walls of a mall have cracks, it would be barely noticed by any shopper unless there would be a conscious and deliberate effort because 1) They're covered with display items, 2) when you're in a mall, you don't look at walls, you look at the merchandise :) but yes, i understand what you mean.

thanks and good day!

Papuntahin mo dito yang engineer na yan then maniniwala ako sayo. Kung nagkamali sila sa MEZA, hindi ibigsabihin mangyayari dn yan sa iba pa nilang PROJECT..

EMPIRE EAST - BAD MAINTENANCE... tulad na nga sa CV... then ung mga condos nila, halos lahat MAGKAKADIKIT ANG MGA BUILDING NILA.. mas malaki ang LAND ng LIGHT pero sa PIONEER WOODLANDS, 9 BUILDINGS ang iatatayo.. WOW, i mean WOW real WOW.. pero 6 n lang ata but still, pinilit pagkasyahin lahat...

last, may kabigan akong agent sa PIONEER, sya mismo nagsabi sakin na natatalo sila ng LIGHT kaya bigla nila sinimulan ang construction. ginagawa daw nila para siraan ang SMDC.. kasi alam nila na mas maraming bibili sa LIGHT.

bow

okay, black24mamba, papuntahin mo rin yung kaibigan mong agent from pioneer woodlands dito para maniwala ako sayo :)

okay, black24mamba, papuntahin mo rin yung kaibigan mong agent from pioneer woodlands dito para maniwala ako sayo :)

there you go, nadulas ka din.. it shows talaga, pananalita mo palang halatang sinisiraan mo lang ang SMDC. funny.. LOL LOL

@ Deal, "I understand what you mean about cambridge, even the broker that i spoke to does not recommend that development."

papatawa ka talaga, dahil maraming issue sa MEZZA ayaw mo na sa SMDC..

pero mas WORST ang CV, and you knew it. pero ano ka, EMPIRE EAST/megaworld PA DN ANG GUSTO.. LOL i dont get it.... :ohno::ohno:
:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

Peeps I think lahat ng condos may mga issues, yung pipiliin ko cguro is yun may mga lighter issues na hindi masyadong nakaka worry. And as for me I trust SMDC because of the company's stability, honest opinion ko lang ciempre marami ka pa rin pagpipilian dyan and depende kun kaya mo ma afford.

Laughing @ SMDC HATERS!!

there you go, nadulas ka din.. it shows talaga, pananalita mo palang halatang sinisiraan mo lang ang SMDC. funny.. LOL LOL


:lol: actually black24mamba, i'm really having a good laugh right now. unfortunately you didn't seem to understand. :lol: i was actually using your own line of thinking to throw things back at you. :lol::lol::lol::lol: what's even funnier is that you didn't get it :lol::lol::lol: oh well.

do not categorize me under your so-called "smdc haters" because i have also mentioned positive things about SMDC projects.

anyway, mr. black24mamba-SY. you seem to be very passionate about SMDC developments. i suppose you're one of the stakeholders. i do hope your energies poured in this thread will be compensated well, and I am sure you will earn a lot from the success of SMDC developments.

good luck to you!

i rest my case.

@ Deal, "I understand what you mean about cambridge, even the broker that i spoke to does not recommend that development."

papatawa ka talaga, dahil maraming issue sa MEZZA ayaw mo na sa SMDC..

pero mas WORST ang CV, and you knew it. pero ano ka, EMPIRE EAST/megaworld PA DN ANG GUSTO.. LOL i dont get it.... :ohno::ohno:
:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:

did i actually say that i prefer empire east? can you actually quote me saying that? well?

by the way, you are supposed to write "WORSE." WORST is the superlative form of the word WORSE. when you are comparing two things, you only use the word WORSE. and no need to use "mas."

now i totally understand why you didn't get what i meant in my previous post. sheesh.

Peeps I think lahat ng condos may mga issues, yung pipiliin ko cguro is yun may mga lighter issues na hindi masyadong nakaka worry. And as for me I trust SMDC because of the company's stability, honest opinion ko lang ciempre marami ka pa rin pagpipilian dyan and depende kun kaya mo ma afford.

Yes, wantacondo, agree with you and respect your opinion even if some people out there don't know how to do that. :lol:

sagot nang sagot sa mga thread at tira nang tira kahit na hindi nila masyado naiintindihan yung ibig sabihin ng nakasulat dun - kung anong konteksto ba, anong pinanggagalingan, etc. bilib din naman ako dahil daig pa nya ang may-ari ng development kung makapagsalita. ayan, nagtagalog na ako.baka maintindihan na.

magandang araw sa inyong lahat!

magandang araw din sa yo sir/ma'am :)

free po kayo mag post ng nasasa isip nyo po pero sana wala ng "angasan" ( to the both of you )

peace po :)

:lol: actually black24mamba, i'm really having a good laugh right now. unfortunately you didn't seem to understand. :lol: i was actually using your own line of thinking to throw things back at you. :lol::lol::lol::lol: what's even funnier is that you didn't get it :lol::lol::lol: oh well.

do not categorize me under your so-called "smdc haters" because i have also mentioned positive things about SMDC projects.

anyway, mr. black24mamba-SY. you seem to be very passionate about SMDC developments. i suppose you're one of the stakeholders. i do hope your energies poured in this thread will be compensated well, and I am sure you will earn a lot from the success of SMDC developments.

good luck to you!

i rest my case.

mahirap talaga kausap hindi tao......:banana::banana:

dint worry, hindi ka naman kasama sa category ng SMDC HATERS kasi HUMAN BEING LANG . hindi animals.. :bash::bash:

SY? thats good... LOL

did i actually say that i prefer empire east? can you actually quote me saying that? well?

by the way, you are supposed to write "WORSE." WORST is the superlative form of the word WORSE. when you are comparing two things, you only use the word WORSE. and no need to use "mas."

now i totally understand why you didn't get what i meant in my previous post. sheesh.

Pioneer Woodlands lang ang laman ng utak mo.. LOL

galing galing, may teacher na tayo dito sa forum.. malamang graduate sa pioneer to.. LOL :bash::bash::bash:

wala ka na kasing masabi kaya kung ano ano ang pumapasok sa utak mo... compare nila ung light ang pioneer dito.. pero pilit mong sinisingit ang MEZZA dahil lang nagkamali sila... check mo muna dn ang background ng ibang developer.. lahat nagkakamali... hahahhaha.. LOL @ DEAL

mahirap talaga kausap hindi tao......:banana::banana:

dint worry, hindi ka naman kasama sa category ng SMDC HATERS kasi HUMAN BEING LANG . hindi animals.. :bash::bash:

SY? thats good... LOL

and also re wantacondo's message - magandang araw din sa yo sir/ma'am

free po kayo mag post ng nasasa isip nyo po pero sana wala ng "angasan" ( to the both of you )

peace po

----

my apologies to everyone for the past exchanges between black24mamba and i. i did not intend for this to happen, and at this point, you are all probably so over the issue if you even bothered to read the messages. i am so over it as well.

if you will read my previous messages, i was merely mentioning some reasons why i have hesitation about SMDC projects, while also mentioning that their developments seem good and are definitely attractive. i clarified from the start when i mentioned something not so good about SMDC that i did not want to start anything here, so pardon me, although wantacondo said that we are free to write what we thought here, for as long as we do not swear.

i joined this forum because i was under the impression that it was composed of reasonable, knowledgeable and intelligent people who exchanged their thoughts in a healthy manner, and that i would get very good inputs (which i did from some of you, thank you) This i thought until recently when i received several attacks from a forum member.

At first i replied to those messages because I am sure you understand that no one will allow him/herself to be attacked in such a way. but now i realized that it does not matter because it's like speaking french to a german. there is no use communicating with someone whose thoughts are off-tangent and whose intelligence is questionable. i am sure that you will also agree with me that those whose intention is to only seek attention (that they probably do not get in real life), and have nothing better do, are not welcome here. besides, no one really cares about what those type of people think or have to say.

so the exchange between black24mamba and i ends here.

thank you.

again, good day to all!

i agree.they acted as if they're not professional,aren't they?

@dealsandsteals - hope we will be hearing more from you here ( not just here in this thread ) and hope this wont discourage you from posting :)

Iwas "angasan" po uli again peace to the both of you. :)

@dealsandsteals - hope we will be hearing more from you here ( not just here in this thread ) and hope this wont discourage you from posting :)

Iwas "angasan" po uli again peace to the both of you. :)


Thanks wantacondo. sure thing! =)

by the way, i heard there are changes to pioneer woodlands? does anyone know what they are?

none that I am aware of. Sir Condoeast is the in house agent of Empire East I'm sure he will post something kung meron :)

none that I am aware of. Sir Condoeast is the in house agent of Empire East I'm sure he will post something kung meron :)

Hmmm well na bring up na din naman. Yes there will be changes po. Pero wala pa definite details by now. I will post pag meron ng site developement plan...

Hmmm well na bring up na din naman. Yes there will be changes po. Pero wala pa definite details by now. I will post pag meron ng site developement plan...

Thanks condoeast! we would be interested to know what they are.

Thanks condoeast! we would be interested to know what they are.

6 towers na lang sya. Yun site developement nya feb pa ata lalabas

6 towers na lang sya. Yun site developement nya feb pa ata lalabas

Thanks condoeast! i've seen the revised site development plan. looks better. 6 ^ buildings na lang nga, and the pool is in the middle of towers 3-6. (the towers surround the pool). looks like no changes to towers 1 and 2 except that there seems to be more space after tower 2 so parang may garden (based on the illustration only).SM is a blessing to those who invested in pioneer woodlands. at least na-pressure ang empire east to deliver a better product.

Pioneer Woodlands lang ang laman ng utak mo.. LOL

galing galing, may teacher na tayo dito sa forum.. malamang graduate sa pioneer to.. LOL :bash::bash::bash:

wala ka na kasing masabi kaya kung ano ano ang pumapasok sa utak mo... compare nila ung light ang pioneer dito.. pero pilit mong sinisingit ang MEZZA dahil lang nagkamali sila... check mo muna dn ang background ng ibang developer.. lahat nagkakamali... hahahhaha.. LOL @ DEAL

I cant believe that this site became forums of biased real estate agents! para kayong mga tindera ng kamatis sa divisoria!

I cant believe that this site became forums of biased real estate agents! para kayong mga tindera ng kamatis sa divisoria!

LOL@Jzone, ubos na tinda ko.:ohno::ohno::ohno: huli ka na sa balita umeepal ka pa. LOL :nuts::nuts::nuts:

:bash::bash::bash:

Update new release render for pioneer woodlands site development plan
a lap pool, kiddie pool, childrens play ground, jogging path, gardens, etc...



http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab279/condoeast/DSC01116.jpg

medyo malabo kasi camera phone lang ginamit ko

Construction on site is very much ongoing... I guess they need to hurry in building or Light Residences will be built ahead of them or SMDC may be taking their clients away.. hehehe... specially ung commercial area nya sa lower floors..

^^ true. i always pass by this area since i sometimes stay at pioneer highlands. dapat bilisan nila. malakas ang smdc. baka maubusan sila ng clients since smdc terms are way attractive. but i still like the project more than light residences, due to the spread of density. mas low-density ang pioneer woodlands.

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/P1000268.jpg

Any update?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4526976766_c22b23bdbb.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4012/4526976662_49e586c367.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/4526345449_f3c321f496.jpg
April 15,2010

^^
Nice cluster of buildings,they may be boxes,but still look decent and clean,I wish these kind of buildings to dominate our skyline,I prefer these than those 1980's buildings in Ortigas Center.

Tower 3 is now ready on sale......

Construction update.... Tower 1&2 already in 4th level....

Picture po please

colored layout

http://images02.olx.com.ph/ui/4/74/25/1266670852_74976925_4-CONDOMINIUM-FOR-SALE-Mandaluyong-Area-Pioneer-Woodlands-Condominium-Houses-Apartments-for-Sale-1266670852.jpg

Tower 3 is now ready on sale......

Construction update.... Tower 1&2 already in 4th level....

SIR, MORE UPDATE RELATED TO FIRST TOWER PLEASE. CAN YOU POST A PICTURE FOR US. THANKS IN ADVANCE.

SIR, MORE UPDATE RELATED TO FIRST TOWER PLEASE. CAN YOU POST A PICTURE FOR US. THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Thanks for the update. how much are the prices for tower 3? same with 1 and 2?

Thanks for the update. how much are the prices for tower 3? same with 1 and 2?

Iba na po kasi yun cut ng mga units sa tower 3 po. Wala na po studio type sa tower 3.
1Br, 2br and 3br na lang po say.
ang pinak maliit na cut is 22.27 1 br then 52.09 3br
nag rrange ng 2.06M upto 4.6M

Any update please?

are the units only 30-35sqm or are they bigger, and what are the demand prices of the ubits?

are the units only 30-35sqm or are they bigger, and what are the demand prices of the ubits?

U can choose combine units.. We have a promo right now 7% in tower 2.. tower 1 sold out already..... open for sale tower 2 and 3

U can choose combine units.. We have a promo right now 7% in tower 2.. tower 1 sold out already..... open for sale tower 2 and 3

What are the demand prices of combine units?

What are the demand prices of combine units?

Around 5.2M.... Do u have already agent here? maybe u can ask him/her regarding on this matter....

Around 5.2M.... Do u have already agent here? maybe u can ask him/her regarding on this matter....

Yes some one from Megaworld

Yes some one from Megaworld

What project of megaworld he/she offer?

What project of megaworld he/she offer?

sir, can you kindly help us to get latest update and the pictures please.

sir, can you kindly help us to get latest update and the pictures please.

Ang hirap kumuna ng picture dito e. Close kasi lahat pero if maka daan ako dito i will hehehe

Ang hirap kumuna ng picture dito e. Close kasi lahat pero if maka daan ako dito i will hehehe

maraming slamat sir.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4754676398_ef96d8dc8a_b_d.jpg


June 27,2010 <--- titong41355, heto yung date :)

Maraming salamat po sa picture.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4754676398_ef96d8dc8a_b_d.jpg


June 27,2010 <--- titong41355, heto yung date :)

sir, thank you very much. at least naumpisahan na. abot pala sa 2012 turnover wal nga lang amenities pa. quite excited lang. sana pag bakasyon ko next year ay finishing na. salamat talaga sa picture.:banana:

Walang anuman mga ka-friendship ko :)

Lahat naman tayo ay gusto na maisaayos, mapabuti at mapaigi ang ating kapaligiran.
Kahit malayo tayo sa isa't isa ay hangad ko na magkaroon ng mga kagiliw-giliw na mga neighborhood.

:cheers1: choco drink ito

wow.atleast nakikita natin ang updates ng PW. excited naren.thnk u po sa new latest picture...luveeet!