The Summer Olympics recently have had the 5-7 applicant cities vying for the Games. For 2016, there were 7, & later the field was dusted down to 4. The Winter Olympics, historically, have had less due to the topography of the candidates that's important.

Granted, while 3 candidates for the 2018 Winter Olympics is small (even compared to other Winter Olympic races), that doesn't necessarily mean that cities are being deterred from running. Politics always plays into these decisions. For example, I'm sure the U.S. could've been part of the 2018 candidates, but certainly the "sting" of the 2016 Summer decision made the USOC to put all future bids on hiatus. Denver, & especially Reno, would've been more than happy to be bidding for 2018. Sofia & Almaty are also others that would love to run again & could've been part of 2018 too, but surely they both realized that their proximity to the 2014 host city Sochi, virtually made their chances nil.

As for "anniversaries", since when is that a criteria that's important to the IOC. If the 100-year anniversary of having the Modern Olympic Games in Greece wasn't enough to sway IOC voters to vote for Athens for 1996, surely no other anniversary (especially ones not directly affecting the IOC) hardly would mean anything to them.

And while BRIC seems to be a good indicator of recent host & selected host nations; Turkey however, is not part of that group. Besides, that's also not a precursor either, since India isn't going to be hosting anytime soon, since comparatively speaking, they have a long, long way to go before they can even be considered viable.

Not to mention, having Rio 2016, Cape Town 2020 & Istanbul 2024 is never going to happen. It's very questionable if the IOC would have '2' high-risk hosts in a row, let alone 3 of them. That's not a realistic line-up at all, sorry to say.

Cape Town is a lower risk given the compact nature of the city and the WC behind its belt by 2013.

The argument however, is that the IOC would like to see how one of these so-called "high risk" hosts i.e. Rio 2016 does, before leaping into the big pool of faith once again.

Granted, So. Africa. having the WC behind it's belt would be a huge plus, however, the WC is not exactly the Olympics, since both events are logistically & venue-wise different.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but a hurdle, yes, since So. Africa. would have the most convincing to do compared to the "safer bets" of Western Europe & Japan.

Its only because its in "Africa". Rio was awarded the Games with the World cup looming in 2014, just 2 years before.

By 2013 Rio's preparations will be in full swing, but the success of those Games will not determine the 2020 host to be decided in 2013.

In 2013
- Europe:Munich would have been awarded 2018 2 years ealier
- Europe: London would have just hosted a glorious 2012 Games
- Europe: Winter Games in Sochi would be the following year, already doing well.
- Brazil would be hosting the World Cup the following year
- South Africa would have had been tested with the World Cup
- Durban would have hosted the IOC session two years earlier

Yes, but some seem to forget though, that Rio also had the 2007 Pan Am Games on it's resume. An event that's more akin to the Olympics than the WC is.

And sorry, your just making assumptions now. Munich 'would've been awarded' the 2018 Games & London would've hosted 'glorious' Games, & Sochi's preps 'doing well', etc, by 2013? Sorry, but do you have a crystal ball or something? If you do, then who's bidding & better yet, the winners, in the next 10 races, I'd like to know.

Again, I'm not saying it's impossible, but a challenge nonetheless. Once South Africa manages to convince most of the members, the Games are theirs to lose. Whether it's 2020 or 2024, remains to be seen.

Doha is bidding for 2020, Its official.

where Durban is going...


cross post from the Durban thread...


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Welcome to Durban. Indaba 2010 showcases city as South Africa’s hottest tourist destination
May 11, 7:01 AM
South Africa
Travel Examiner - Wanda Hennig

The Indian Ocean city of Durban’s World Cup 2010 slogan is “the warmest place to be for 2010.” Sunny, subtropical, and a multi-cultural melting pot city with a strong Zulu flavor, a rich Indian heritage, and British-European undertones, Durban’s mild winters and hot summers make it “the city for all seasons.” Don't miss our great Durban Indaba.

As San Francisco, in polls, has topped the “favorite US city” list for US residents, Durban is South Africa’s top vacation city for South Africans. Increasingly, international tourists are discovering why.

The month of May in South Africa is Indaba month, Indaba being the biggest travel trade show in Africa and a vast and vibrant business extravaganza.

Destinations big and small — around 2,000 exhibitors — from throughout South Africa, the rest of Africa, and several Indian Ocean islands, bring their tourism wares to Indaba South Africa to display to the world. And the travel trade and travel media converge — this year, media in record numbers given World Cup 2010 fever, which infused Indaba 2010, held at Durban’s international-scale song-and-dance friendly (entertainment happens all day long) iNkosi Albert Luthuli International Convention Center.

World Cup 2010 Theme

At this year’s Indaba and with Durban a host city, the World Cup 2010 theme was visible throughout, and the excitement of exhibitors and guests was palpable.

For Durban, the travel and tourism expo was a chance to showcase, to the international travel market, three iconic additions to the city.

During Indaba, South African President Jacob Zuma officially opened Durban’s state-of-the-art new King Shaka International Airport.

Definition: Indaba (Zulu), a council at which indigenous peoples of southern Africa meet to discuss important matters.

At the official Indaba 2010 opening, President Zuma ceremonially turned on the lights at all South Africa’s World Cup stadiums, including the one he said was his favorite: Durban’s Moses Mabhida Stadium.

The stunning multi-use work of art has a capacity to seat 70,000 World Cup fans, an iconic arch, a SkyCar, a bungee swing, a gallery, restaurants, stores and more. It is a visible part of the Durban skyline from spots throughout the city. A global media face-off was held at the Moses Mabhida Stadium during Indaba.

Durban’s beachfront promenade

The third major transformation spotlighted was Durban’s beachfront promenade redevelopment that runs between Moses Mabhida and uShaka Sea World. The multi-million dollar upgrade focuses on functionality, safety and aesthetics.

“The sort of transformation that’s happened in Durban must be unique in the world,” said Indaba exhibitor and veteran city tourism professional Linda Pampallis, CEO of Thompsons Africa.

“What’s happened in Durban is unheard of.

“The city has taken the opportunity of the World Cup to do what has been on everybody’s minds for years and years. The new more contemporary environment definitely, I think, makes the city more easy to sell to international tourists.”

Interest from international agents was definitely up. “The World Cup has been fantastic for South Africa in that regard.”

Australian tour and travel representative Dennis Basham, on his first visit to Indaba, said he was pleasantly surprised with the amount of product available and the professionalism.

“I do travel shows in different countries every month and this is definitely one of the best I have been to. Everyone is passionate about their country. I expected a lot of ma and pa operators; not all these large companies doing it so well. I’ll be packaging up holidays and sending more Australians here, most definitely.”

Moses Mabhida Stadium

He also said he was impressed with Durban — the beachfront, the Moses Mabhida Stadium and downtown Durban. “I loved seeing all the people in the streets shopping and going about their business. It’s what I expected to see and so much more engaging than the corporate nature of Johannesburg.”

Talking about these and the many other transformations in and around Durban, Phillip Sithole, acting head of Durban Tourism, said most of the projects had been on the cards prior to — and given the much-needed momentum by — the World Cup.

Sithole said it was important to recognize the different facets of what the city now had to offer. Besides the beachfront promenade, stretching from uShaka to the Moses Mabhida Stadium, where the focus is on safety and security, walkability, and entertainment and hospitality (places to eat and drink), the city also has its entertainment zones in Florida Road and Davenport Road and it’s heritage tourism, relevant to international visitors and locals.

The new beachfront area is also the perfect springboard for international visitors to partake in KwaZulu-Natal tourism’s myriad attractions.

“Everything we have done has been with a view to he future,” said Durban city manager Dr. Michael Sutcliffe. He said a major focus in planning what now comprises around 90 km of world-class beaches comprising the Durban metropolitan area, including Durban’s central beaches, Umhlanga, the Bluff, Amanzimtoti beaches and Umgababa, has been clearing the clutter of the past. (Apartheid’s segregated beaches, for instance.)

The growth in international tourism to Durban is currently above the national average, said Sutcliffe.

James Seymour, director of Tourism KwaZulu-Natal (TKZN), confirmed that the World Cup had bolstered a number of very bold initiatives.

He pointed out that a major impediment to international travel had been the old airport. When international flights into Durban were curtailed in 1998, the city and region saw a dramatic decline in foreign tourists. The province had tried many innovative ways to lure them back, with charter aircraft and other initiatives. “But we were never able to get them back.”

He said that with the new airport, and the fact that Durban’s home, the province of KwaZulu-Natal, now has two World Heritage Sites, “I believe the province is now ready to reach its potential in terms of tourism.”

Cities bid to host Indaba. Durban, with its attractions, invariably wins the bid. During Indaba 2010, it was announced that Durban had been selected to host Indaba without bidding for the next five years.

By day four of Indaba 2010, organizers, and South African tourism CEO Thandiwe January-McLean, were predicting that, with the World Cup spotlight on South Africa, attendance would top out at near-record levels.


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for me UEFA cup should not be a criteria for olympics but world athelitcs champs must be...

Yes, but some seem to forget though, that Rio also had the 2007 Pan Am Games on it's resume. An event that's more akin to the Olympics than the WC is.

And sorry, your just making assumptions now. Munich 'would've been awarded' the 2018 Games & London would've hosted 'glorious' Games, & Sochi's preps 'doing well', etc, by 2013? Sorry, but do you have a crystal ball or something? If you do, then who's bidding & better yet, the winners, in the next 10 races, I'd like to know.

Again, I'm not saying it's impossible, but a challenge nonetheless. Once South Africa manages to convince most of the members, the Games are theirs to lose. Whether it's 2020 or 2024, remains to be seen.

Where is your sense of humour?

I predict Munich will win easily, Sochi's preparations are already very good, and London 2012 will without a doubt host glorious Games.

As for multi-sport Games, Johannesburg hosted the All-Africa Games in 1999, arguably the best ever.

Where is your sense of humour?

I predict Munich will win easily, Sochi's preparations are already very good, and London 2012 will without a doubt host glorious Games.

As for multi-sport Games, Johannesburg hosted the All-Africa Games in 1999, arguably the best ever.

hmmm..... why i cant agree with you...:S

i dont think so munich will win... also about london 2012.... not a glorious games i guess....:S
whats the d.lne of candidature of 2020? anyone knows?

hmmm..... why i cant agree with you...:S

i dont think so munich will win... also about london 2012.... not a glorious games i guess....:S
whats the d.lne of candidature of 2020? anyone knows?

2011. Host City selected 2013.

I definitely think Munich will win. London 2012 will be Sydney 2000 on steroids.

ah also i found st. interesting ...and wanna share....
here u are

Time Out’s Top Ten cities in the world

"In arriving at Time Out’s greatest cities, we were not looking for great holiday destinations but living, working cities.

This meant looking at all aspects of urban life, not just those one encounters on a weekend break, and what everyday life is like for people who actually live there.

Resident writers were asked to rate their cities in terms of key criteria that make up a successful city: architecture/cityscape; arts & culture; buzz; food & drink; quality of life; and world status.Marks were then given to a panel of extraordinarily well-traveled experts, drawn form Time Out’s Guides, International and Travel divisions who applied a global perspective, debating controversial areas and making comparisons between the cities. Scores were adjusted local cynicism or over-enthusiasm, and a hierarchy emerged, with the following ten scoring highest"

1. New York, USA

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 10

Buzz: 10

Food & drink: 9

Quality of life: 6

World status: 9


Total/60: 53

2. London, UK

Architecture: 7

Arts & culture: 10

Buzz: 9

Food & drink: 9

Quality of life: 6
World status: 9
Total/60: 50

3. Paris, France

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 9
Buzz: 6
Food & drink: 9

Quality of life: 7

World status: 8


Total/60: 48

4. Berlin, Germany

Architecture: 7

Arts & culture: 9
Buzz: 9

Food & drink: 6

Quality of life: 7

World status: 8
Total/60: 46

Equal 5th. Barcelona, Spain

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 7

Buzz: 8

Food & drink: 8

Quality of life: 8
World status: 4


Total/60: 44

Equal 5th. Chicago, USA

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 8
Buzz: 7

Food & drink: 7

Quality of life: 7
World status: 6
Total/60: 44

Equal 5th. Tokyo, Japan

Architecture: 7
Arts & culture: 6
Buzz: 9

Food & drink: 10

Quality of life: 4
World status: 8
Total/60: 44

8. Istanbul, Turkey

Architecture: 7
Arts & culture: 7
Buzz: 9

Food & drink: 7
Quality of life: 6
World status: 7


Total/60: 43

Equal 9th. Rome, Italy

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 7
Buzz: 7
Food & drink: 6

Quality of life: 6

World status: 7


Total/60: 42

Equal 9th. Sydney, Australia

Architecture: 7

Arts & culture: 6

Buzz: 7

Food & drink: 7

Quality of life: 10
World status: 5


Total/60: 42

Munich definitely has good chances of winning, but anyone underestimating Pyeong Chang's unique candidature would be a huge mistake.

That would be like underestimating Munich's, which would also be a mistake.

As far as London being like Sydney on 'steroids', remains to be seen.

I Love Brazil but I rekon that Rio got the games little bit soon becouse theirs poverty every where you go in rio theirs a slum right around a couner. rio have 15 million people and 6.1million people is living in poverty in the 2016 bid i was going for Chicago, USA
I still stand on 2020 Tokyo, Japan and 2024 Toronto, Canada. My Beloved Brisbane wont be ready by 2028 so it will be 2028 Rome, Italy. 2032 Brisbane, Australia. 2036 New York City, Los Angeles or Houstan, USA. 2040 Bangkok, Thailand. 2044 Paris, France. 2048 Vancouver, Canada.
South Africa and other African counties needs to be way better in the living will be 75 in 2060 when Africa get the 1st olympics in Cape Town, South Africa.

No matter what city ya go to in the world, they all have their poverty/ slum like looking areas and for tourism ya only gonna show the best bits of the city.

*facepalm*

The lists are back. Run for your lives!

I Love Brazil but I rekon that Rio got the games little bit soon becouse theirs poverty every where you go in rio theirs a slum right around a couner. rio have 15 million people and 6.1million people is living in poverty in the 2016 bid i was going for Chicago, USA
I still stand on 2020 Tokyo, Japan and 2024 Toronto, Canada. My Beloved Brisbane wont be ready by 2028 so it will be 2028 Rome, Italy. 2032 Brisbane, Australia. 2036 New York City, Los Angeles or Houstan, USA. 2040 Bangkok, Thailand. 2044 Paris, France. 2048 Vancouver, Canada.
South Africa and other African counties needs to be way better in the living will be 75 in 2060 when Africa get the 1st olympics in Cape Town, South Africa.

There's always going to be poverty in developing nations. Why even some developed nations have ever present poverty. Rio proved themselves as a potential host due to the recent successful hosting of the 2007 Pan American Games and due to Brazil getting the 2014 World Cup.

Chicago never even came close most likely due to protests at home and more importantly lingering resentment from the IOC.

Vancouver has shown no indication of wanting a Summer Olympics, Toronto will get theirs first, with perhaps Edmonton following due to an already existing Olympic sized stadium and the potential for new legacy sporting and general venues such as a modern 21st century arena and perhaps an exhibition complex. One might even expect Montreal to attempt another go to write the wrongs of 1976.

Forget Bangkok, even if things are different in 2040, the current civil unrest may have lasting repercussions for any major sports attempt by Thailand.

I can expect an African Olympics sooner, rather than later. If they can get a World Cup so soon than other worth while "hosts", then it's not impossible for them to get an Olympics, should they bid.

Edmonton?? Sorry, but :nuts:

It's the "Tulsa" of Canada.

Yeah, *maybe* in the much later half of this century, if the population blew up 10-fold & got somekind of international recognition in some way. But other than that, no way. And like Vancouver, what kind of 'indication' has Edmonton made anyway, besides none.

And 'Olympic sized' stadium?? Which one? Commonwealth stadium? That puny & outdated structure (by SUMMER 'Olympic' standards) wouldn't even begin to salivate the mouths of those finicky IOC members, let alone them voting for the darn thing.

Edmonton?? Sorry, but :nuts:

It's the "Tulsa" of Canada.

Yeah, *maybe* in the much later half of this century, if the population blew up 10-fold & got somekind of international recognition in some way. But other than that, no way. And like Vancouver, what kind of 'indication' has Edmonton made anyway, besides none.

And 'Olympic sized' stadium?? Which one? Commonwealth stadium? That puny & outdated structure (by SUMMER 'Olympic' standards) wouldn't even begin to salivate the mouths of those finicky IOC members, let alone them voting for the darn thing.

Aherm, that Commonwealth Stadium IS Olympic size and standard, it currently seats 60,081, is considered one of the premier stadiums in Canada not due to size but because it has a grass pitch. It has hosted the 1978 Commonwealth Games, where they built an odd 42,500 seater that was like 10,000 or so less than Montreal's Olympic Stadium but was built for a mere $20.9-million. Upgraded to host the 1983 Universiade to it's current capacity, it was further upgraded by a modest $22.17 million in 2001 to host the 2001 Championships in Athletics.

The stadium shows that yes, reasonably priced large stadiums are possible. One could expect an upgrade to over 70,000 which would include a roof circling most of the stands.

It is not the Tulsa of Canada, it has hosted major sporting events, where Tulsa has hosted few, it has the stadium and other venues and could build more, it has a hockey team and CFL team, the spiritual home of Canada's Soccer teams due to Commonwealth Stadium having the grass pitch and it's destination as having North America's largest Mall will probably also be a selling point.

Expect a Edmonton bid after Toronto has been exhausted or has won, well before Vancouver. Expect it as an opportunity to modernize the sports venues in the city (if much has not been done already) and bring the Olympics back to Alberta.

Oh and also expect the possibility if it hosts another successful Commonwealth Games or Universiade.

Equal 9th. Rome, Italy

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 7
Buzz: 7
Food & drink: 6

Quality of life: 6

World status: 7


Total/60: 42[/QUOTE]

to say food in rome is ranking as one of the worst is pretty daring, don't you think?even quality of life a bit undervalued, should be great 9 think about it:there's movida, shops within reach and u can find everything you need and safety level is pretty high-rankin

Vancouver is bidding to host the 2028 olympics games Lord David do some reserch before you say that. Edmonton is to small to host the games. Italy got the Best food in the World.
Bangkok will change Thailand is going though a bad time but it will be a 1st world country by 2032.
Lord David you can't put down Thailand. Look what China did in 1989 and Beijing only lost to Sydney in 1993 to Host the 2000 Olympics by 2 votes.
Paris won't get the 2024 olympics but it will get the 2044 olympics.
If all of the Events will be in Cape Town then they will get the 2036 Olympics. I Love South Africa they allow Gay marriage. That will help them to get the Olympics. The Islam World will never get the Olympics in my Life Time and im gen Y in Australia. They say by 2060 in Australian people will live to 98 and i will be 75.
China will Never get the Summer Olympics Again. But i think they will get the winter Olympics some Time in my life Time. like 2026 in Harbin
Munich will get the winter olympics in 2018 For sure. The Ice area hosted the 1972 Summer Olympics and the snow area hosted the 1936 Winter Olympics.
The IOC wants to give Denver a another Change.
The IOC and AOC and the Australian Goverment the Labor and Liberal Party Says Brisbane will get the next olympics. Then Perth then Back to Melbourne.
Australian winter Olympic Movement is getting bigger and bigger We will get the winter Olympics in 2042 in Canberra and Mont Kosciuszko.
After Gold Coast 2018 Commonwealth Games then Perth will get the next ones in Australia in 2038.

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Aherm, that Commonwealth Stadium IS Olympic size and standard, it currently seats 60,081, is considered one of the premier stadiums in Canada not due to size but because it has a grass pitch. It has hosted the 1978 Commonwealth Games, where they built an odd 42,500 seater that was like 10,000 or so less than Montreal's Olympic Stadium but was built for a mere $20.9-million. Upgraded to host the 1983 Universiade to it's current capacity, it was further upgraded by a modest $22.17 million in 2001 to host the 2001 Championships in Athletics.

The stadium shows that yes, reasonably priced large stadiums are possible. One could expect an upgrade to over 70,000 which would include a roof circling most of the stands.

It is not the Tulsa of Canada, it has hosted major sporting events, where Tulsa has hosted few, it has the stadium and other venues and could build more, it has a hockey team and CFL team, the spiritual home of Canada's Soccer teams due to Commonwealth Stadium having the grass pitch and it's destination as having North America's largest Mall will probably also be a selling point.

Expect a Edmonton bid after Toronto has been exhausted or has won, well before Vancouver. Expect it as an opportunity to modernize the sports venues in the city (if much has not been done already) and bring the Olympics back to Alberta.

Oh and also expect the possibility if it hosts another successful Commonwealth Games or Universiade.

And your point with all of this is??

So what if Edmonton's hosted more sporting events than Tulsa? Like that's anything to speak of since Tulsa is so far behind most places. And relatively speaking, Edmonton can be compared to Tulsa: Neither has no international cache & both are just *micro* "metropolises" which neither have the sufficient infrastructure required, particularly in transport & accommodation, to handle the huge influx of people a Summer Olympics would bring.

The day cities like Edmonton would even get a glimmer of consideration by those finicky IOC princesses, is the day they only get bids from cities like Edmonton, Tulsa, Hobart, Fukuoka, Lille & Leipzig, etc, cause no one else worthwhile would want to bother with them anymore because they would have gotten too gargantuan & expensive, so the IOC would be forced to massively scale down.

And we've been over the issue with a 60,000 seat stadium in the Baku thread. Ain't gonna happen. The Summer Olympics are beyond that capacity nowadays. And North America's largest mall would probably be a 'selling point' to what, exactly? An Olympics?? Okay, lol. If that's the case, Minneapolis, throw your hat in the ring so you can 'sell' the Mall of America! LOL

And if Toronto gets "exhausted" in trying, what makes you think Edmonton could do it then? That's like saying if New York/Chicago can't, Tulsa can. Or trying to attract a lion in the jungle with a soy burger after the big juicy steak didn't work. Crazy.

Now if it was the WINTER Olympics, maybe. Only problem with that is the Alpine events would still be too far away. Sorry, but all this sounds like something Matthew on here would say & advocate, lol.

^^ Beyond 60,000 capacity? Well then why is the MINIMUM set by the IOC 60,000 then? Why not 70,000 or 80,000? Because that would put most cities that already or want a smaller capacity stadium out of contention that's why.
Baku can and will happen, if the IOC wants to open to new frontiers and once much of the proposed development from their 2016 bid is completed.

Oh and as for Matt, Vancouver has shown no intention of hosting the 2028 Summer Olympics, whereas Seattle has, possibly with Vancouver. Vancouver won't be hosting the Summer Olympics anytime soon.

Probably 2020 Dubai, 2024 Rome, 2028 Shanghai, 2032 Toronto, 2036 Delhi, 2040 Boston, 2044 Berlin, 2048 Hong Kong-Guangzhou

no

"Baku can & will happen"?? Okay. :hilarious

Of course the IOC wants to open up to new frontiers, but let's be realistic here, shall we. There is no geopolitical will nor reason for the IOC to go to that small part of the world at this point in time. Not while we still have the much bigger fish like the CONTINENT of Africa yet to host, the Muslim World, India (at some point), & not to mention the regular (Western) European hostings in between.

And again, EXACTLY, the bare "MINIMUM" is 60,000, but since when does the IOC do the "minimum". The last 4 Summer Olympics & the next 2 Games have been beyond that minimum. Everything has a benchmark, but that doesn't mean that you have to settle for it everytime, or at all.

If you were to see a specialist for whatever reason, would like to see the one that passed all of his/her studies with the "minimum" requirements, or the one that went BEYOND their prerequisites. Uh, huh. Thought so.

Probably 2020 Dubai, 2024 Rome, 2028 Shanghai, 2032 Toronto, 2036 Delhi, 2040 Boston, 2044 Berlin, 2048 Hong Kong-Guangzhou

Thats the worst list that i seen 3 games in china in 40 Years India still needs to fight poverty and terrosit before they bid they have 600 million people living in poverty by 2036 that number will be 450 million

The IOC has a ban on muit nations bids Hong Kong will be a diffent country by 2018
Dubai owes 96 Billion USA$ Debt
No Oceaina Games for over 52 years
Toronto will get the games sooner 2024 that when they will get them
Rome will get the 2028 games

Maldini are you Drunk

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BANNED! :lol:

(No serious comments on '20 Olympics at the moment, though)

"Baku can & will happen"?? Okay. :hilarious

Of course the IOC wants to open up to new frontiers, but let's be realistic here, shall we. There is no geopolitical will nor reason for the IOC to go to that small part of the world at this point in time. Not while we still have the much bigger fish like the CONTINENT of Africa yet to host, the Muslim World, India (at some point), & not to mention the regular (Western) European hostings in between.

And again, EXACTLY, the bare "MINIMUM" is 60,000, but since when does the IOC do the "minimum". The last 4 Summer Olympics & the next 2 Games have been beyond that minimum. Everything has a benchmark, but that doesn't mean that you have to settle for it everytime, or at all.

If you were to see a specialist for whatever reason, would like to see the one that passed all of his/her studies with the "minimum" requirements, or the one that went BEYOND their prerequisites. Uh, huh. Thought so.

Go Edmonton. Go Baku!! :) haha

The COI (Italian Olympic Committee) chose Rome to represent Italy for candidacy in the 2020 Olympics.

The other candidate was Venice.

The officiality will be given next week

Matthew are you drunk?

And again, EXACTLY, the bare "MINIMUM" is 60,000, but since when does the IOC do the "minimum". The last 4 Summer Olympics & the next 2 Games have been beyond that minimum. Everything has a benchmark, but that doesn't mean that you have to settle for it everytime, or at all.


Not that I disagree at all with your analysis in general (because you speak by far the most sense of anyone in these Olympic threads), but Rio's track and field stadium will only be 60,000.

Go Edmonton. Go Baku!! :) haha

Baku has more chance than Cape Town for 2020, because they're sure to make a stronger bid attempt. :P
Whilst Cape Town of course is mere speculation.

Baku has more chance than Cape Town for 2020, because they're sure to make a stronger bid attempt. :P
Whilst Cape Town of course is mere speculation.

Baku Over Cape Town no way in Hell. Lord David are you Drunk?

Baku did not get in the final Stortlist Cape Town did.

Baku is a Crap place to have the olympics to near touble IRAN AND IRAQ

Baku dont have enouth money to get the olympics.

Cape Town got lots of sporting history and money Baku dont.

MAN LOTS OF PEOPLE DO NOT THINK ABOUT THING EVERYONE DO SOME RESARCH BEFORE YOU SAY THING.:bash::bash::bash::ohno:

Matthew Lowry please shut up.

Matthew, your argument over geographic location is not necessary.
Doha and Dubai are bidding for 2020 both are near places like Iraq, Iran, Yemen and Saudi Arabia... they are not a problem.

But to be honest Baku scored really low in terms of IOC score at the 2016 bid. even Doha scored way higher.

Baku Over Cape Town no way in Hell. Lord David are you Drunk?

Baku did not get in the final Stortlist Cape Town did.

Baku is a Crap place to have the olympics to near touble IRAN AND IRAQ

Baku dont have enouth money to get the olympics.

Cape Town got lots of sporting history and money Baku dont.

MAN LOTS OF PEOPLE DO NOT THINK ABOUT THING EVERYONE DO SOME RESARCH BEFORE YOU SAY THING.:bash::bash::bash::ohno:

I am not drunk, I was merely saying that Baku has a greater chance than Cape Town because they are a known 2020 bidder, whilst Cape Town is merely speculation. Once they get their Olympic Stadium and other developments in place, they could easily match or be slightly trailing when compared to Cape Town.

Baku didn't get shortlisted yes, but that was due to general infrastructure problems, lack of sporting history etc, it will have more of such things in 2020 and could be poised to make a strong bid that could meet the IOC benchmark of 6.0 and might just squeeze through depending on how many other bidders there are.

Baku and Azerbaijan in general is near Iran and Iraq yes, but doesn't pose any current political instability, Iran itself had supported Azerbaijan in their bid for 2016 and security will naturally be increased during any Olympics as is the norm for major sporting events.

Baku has plenty of money to host the Olympics? Have you checked out the SkyscraperCity page on Baku developments? The city is in an oil wealthy nation that is rapidly expanding and building major projects.

Cape Town has lots of sporting history, yes, money, yes, but Baku although lacking in sporting history, does have the money to fund a future Olympics.

Well back to point number 1, Baku has a greater chance than Cape Town due to the fact that they are a sure bidder, heck even Cape Town could face competition from Durban for the South African bid for the 2020 games if South Africa even bids at all. :nuts:

So you're saying Cape Town doesn't have money? :lol:

We certainly had money for our 2004 bid! As previously said...70% of venues will be in place by 2013 already (Olympics or not).

Baku has more chance than Cape Town for 2020, because they're sure to make a stronger bid attempt. :P
Whilst Cape Town of course is mere speculation.

When exactly have Baku confirmed that they are bidding?

I Love Cape Town, South Africa i got a House Their. I live and work in Cape Town for 6 mounths of the Year. But i do not think that Cape Town will be ready by 2020. I am a member and a Worker of Cape Town Vision 2030 so i think the olympic will be in Cape Town by 2032. and Mo Rush i now it was you who did the Tag.
Cape Town got the money but 2020s is lit bit to soon but Mo Rush 2032 Cape Town we got it.
Baku never will get the Olympics.
Istanbul will be the 1st Islam city to get the Olympics by 2068 or Even sooner
God Bless South Africa, Australia, Brazil, USA, Canada, Germany, Greece, Turkey, Netherlands, Irealand, UK and Italy.

Not that I disagree at all with your analysis in general (because you speak by far the most sense of anyone in these Olympic threads), but Rio's track and field stadium will only be 60,000.

Thank you.

And while yes, Athletics are going to be held at the 60,000 seat (for the Games) stadium of Joao Havelange, however, the 'centerpiece' stadium for the Games, & where the pinnacle event for the Olympics (the ceremonies) will be held are going to be at Maracana, which will seat 90,000 for the Games.

Rio marked an anomaly, since this is going to be the first time in Olympic history for the Summer Games that the Ceremonies are going to be seperated from the Athletics.

When exactly have Baku confirmed that they are bidding?

My sentiments exactly. I haven't heard/read a peep from anywhere that Baku is a "confirmed" bidder.

Me thinks L.D. is indeed 'drunk'. :lol: He obviously has this fantasia love for Baku (& his little Edmonton) for whatever his wishful reasons are, lol.

Baku didn't get shortlisted yes, but that was due to general infrastructure problems, lack of sporting history etc, it will have more of such things in 2020 and could be poised to make a strong bid that could meet the IOC benchmark of 6.0 and might just squeeze through depending on how many other bidders there are.



And yet you think that this will have drastically improved in less than 4 years time? :nuts:

And even if they did bid & happened to 'squeeze through' the benchmark of 6.0, that still wouldn't necessarily guarantee them a spot on the short-list. Look at what happened to Doha last time around.

Even Rogge as of late is trying to push for Africa. I certainly don't hear those type of heeds for "Baku-kuu".

Sorry, but there's just no convincing or appealing argument, in any of the realms, for Baku at this point in time, no matter how much in love you are with it.

The COI (Italian Olympic Committee) chose Rome to represent Italy for candidacy in the 2020 Olympics.

The other candidate was Venice.

The officiality will be given next week

A link to this newspiece would be nice.

Baku only got 4.3 in the inspection.

Baku is no Rio de Janerio/Brazil

Rio de Janerio inspection for 2012 5.1
Rio de Janerio inspection for 2016 6.4

Lord David you beloved Baku is not bidding for the 2020 olympic and most people think that Baku will never will get the Olympics and how they hell that you would rank Baku over Cape Town You are Drunk Lord David.
My Citys that i got on in list Tokyo, Toronto, Brisbane, Cape Town, Bangkok, Rome, Paris and Vancouver out rank your Baku and Edmonton.

and Mo Rush i now it was you who did the Tag.


What tag? I don't tag threads.

I Love Cape Town, South Africa i got a House Their. I live and work in Cape Town for 6 mounths of the Year. But i do not think that Cape Town will be ready by 2020. I am a member and a Worker of Cape Town Vision 2030 so i think the olympic will be in Cape Town by 2032. and Mo Rush i now it was you who did the Tag.
Cape Town got the money but 2020s is lit bit to soon but Mo Rush 2032 Cape Town we got it.
Baku never will get the Olympics.
Istanbul will be the 1st Islam city to get the Olympics by 2068 or Even sooner
God Bless South Africa, Australia, Brazil, USA, Canada, Germany, Greece, Turkey, Netherlands, Irealand, UK and Italy.

You've got me in stitches :hilarious

I Love Cape Town, South Africa i got a House Their. I live and work in Cape Town for 6 mounths of the Year. But i do not think that Cape Town will be ready by 2020. I am a member and a Worker of Cape Town Vision 2030 so i think the olympic will be in Cape Town by 2032. and Mo Rush i now it was you who did the Tag.
Cape Town got the money but 2020s is lit bit to soon but Mo Rush 2032 Cape Town we got it.
Baku never will get the Olympics.
Istanbul will be the 1st Islam city to get the Olympics by 2068 or Even sooner
God Bless South Africa, Australia, Brazil, USA, Canada, Germany, Greece, Turkey, Netherlands, Irealand, UK and Italy.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Baku only got 4.3 in the inspection.

Baku is no Rio de Janerio/Brazil

Rio de Janerio inspection for 2012 5.1
Rio de Janerio inspection for 2016 6.4

Lord David you beloved Baku is not bidding for the 2020 olympic and most people think that Baku will never will get the Olympics and how they hell that you would rank Baku over Cape Town You are Drunk Lord David.
My Citys that i got on in list Tokyo, Toronto, Brisbane, Cape Town, Bangkok, Rome, Paris and Vancouver out rank your Baku and Edmonton.

Baku is not bidding for the Olympics? Then why go ahead with it's Olympic Stadium and other Olympic related projects? Why for a future Olympics bid that is! They will be bidding for 2020, learning the lessons of the failed 2016 bid and will be making a reasonably good bid. Whether they actually win or not is the question, but they might just squeeze through to candidate stage.

And as stated BEFORE numerous times, I'm only RANKING Baku over Cape Town based on the fact that Baku will be bidding, whilst Cape Town is a speculation. If Baku weren't bidding, then why go through bidding in 2016 then? Why not build the infrastructure first, host more championships and then bid?

Well Technically Edmonton should outrank Vancouver due to the fact that they have a stadium already in place where Vancouver does not nor would need one. Vancouver will not be bidding for a Summer Olympics anytime soon. Heck, even Edmonton would outrank Brisbane in some respects.

My sentiments exactly. I haven't heard/read a peep from anywhere that Baku is a "confirmed" bidder.

Me thinks L.D. is indeed 'drunk'. :lol: He obviously has this fantasia love for Baku (& his little Edmonton) for whatever his wishful reasons are, lol.

They said during the 2016 bid that 2020 and 2024 are chances of posing a better bid, in which they will do so, for 2020.

Baku is not bidding for the Olympics? Then why go ahead with it's Olympic Stadium and other Olympic related projects? Why for a future Olympics bid that is! They will be bidding for 2020, learning the lessons of the failed 2016 bid and will be making a reasonably good bid. Whether they actually win or not is the question, but they might just squeeze through to candidate stage.





So has Istanbul, & where has that gotten them? At least Istanbul was smart enough to sit out 2016. And Istanbul would have better chances.

Baku still wanting to build an "Olympic" stadium (which is puny anyway), still doesn't change the fact that the city seriously lacks in other critical infrastructure. Other areas which are crucial & where a preliminary evaluation would still *grill* Baku (just like the 2016 one did).

Baku (& Azerbaijan) is too small for a Summer Olympics anyway. They're in the Caucauses too, a very volatile region of the planet, & there's just no great geopolitical incentive to go there. Of course they can bid, no one can really stop anyone who wants to put their hand up, but that's as far as they would get.

And while Cape Town might be "speculation" at the moment, Durban, on the other hand, is quite willing to take on a bid if Cape Town doesn't. Besides, I'm sure we'll hear much more from South Africa about an Olympics once their 2010 World Cup tournament is over with in a couple of months time. South Africa is surely too preoccupied with that Mega event only less than a month away now, to concern themselves with a 2020 Olympic bid that won't get awarded 'til another 3-plus years. South Africa has their priorities in order at the moment.

Hasnt been since 88-92 that there been 2 new countries back to back so ya never know maybe somewhere new may get it as opposed to me saying it'll be Europe in a country already hosted.

They said during the 2016 bid that 2020 and 2024 are chances of posing a better bid, in which they will do so, for 2020.

Prague said the same thing 4 years ago, & where are they now, besides *not* bidding for 2020.

Prague said the same thing 4 years ago, & where are they now, besides *not* bidding for 2020.

Yes, but unlike Baku, they've confirmed their non intentions to bid, most likely due to the cost concerns and more importantly lack of significant support.

For the last time, 60,000 isn't puny. If it were, the IOC benchmark would have been at least 80,000. Baku isn't building a stadium of that size, yes, but a spectacular looking one at that.

Thats the worst list that i seen 3 games in china in 40 Years India still needs to fight poverty and terrosit before they bid they have 600 million people living in poverty by 2036 that number will be 450 million

The IOC has a ban on muit nations bids Hong Kong will be a diffent country by 2018
Dubai owes 96 Billion USA$ Debt
No Oceaina Games for over 52 years
Toronto will get the games sooner 2024 that when they will get them
Rome will get the 2028 games

Maldini are you Drunk

Probably 2020 Dubai, 2024 Rome, 2028 Shanghai, 2032 Toronto, 2036 Delhi, 2040 Boston, 2044 Berlin, 2048 Hong Kong-Guangzhou, 2052 Mumbai

LOL, Hong Kong a different country? Are you kidding? This is the most hilarious joke we have ever heard. Hong Kong is part of China.
If you say Dubai owes debt, probably Rome owes even more debt.
India has a middle class 30 times population of Australia.

Australia is just part of Asia. Australia is just too small and remote to host any more games independently.
South Africa, Indonesia and Vietnam will get the games before Australia will get it again.

What is your point? Your lists are just as retarded as Matthews. Quit posting them already... Will be interesting to see if India can even host the CWG.

You say Australia is too small to host any more games independently... Hello... We've hosted the Olympics twice on our own already and come 2050 our population will be more (or around) than 40 million (that's approx 7.6 million in Sydney, 8 million in Melbourne, and 5 million in Brisbane). We've proven ourselves on many sporting fronts (we don't have the highest participation and observation per capita, and sporting capital of the world for no reason). Also for the record, we're NOT a part of Asia, the continent is Australia.

Do you have statistics on the uneducated - of which I assume you're a part of?

What is your point? Your lists are just as retarded as Matthews. Quit posting them already... Will be interesting to see if India can even host the CWG.

You say Australia is too small to host any more games independently... Hello... We've hosted the Olympics twice on our own already and come 2050 our population will be more (or around) than 40 million (that's approx 7.6 million in Sydney, 8 million in Melbourne, and 5 million in Brisbane). We've proven ourselves on many sporting fronts (we don't have the highest participation and observation per capita, and sporting capital of the world for no reason). Also for the record, we're NOT a part of Asia, the continent is Australia.

Do you have statistics on the uneducated - of which I assume you're a part of?

then why do you compete in the sporting arena of football from the Asian division?

and even compete in the Asian cup of football

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_AFC_Asian_Cup

Do you seriously think Australia is a part of Asia? We may have close ties with Asia (Japan and China in particular), but our continent is Australia... Geography 101, educate yourself.

Do you seriously think Australia is a part of Asia? We may have close ties with Asia (Japan and China in particular), but our continent is Australia... Geography 101, educate yourself.

then why participate for football through Asia???

Dont you think your better off asking that question to the Australia authorities?

Australia cant compete through Asia in one comp and then bid for another comp as a "separate continent".

The day you joined the Asian AFC tells me for all sporting purposes your in the Asian continent.

Geography has nothing to do with it.

We participate in the Asian Cup because an "Australian Cup" would be a walk in the park. New Zealand, PNG, Micronesia, Fiji? Seriously. We have our own A-League but when we're not competing in that, we will compete overseas. We have players who play in England, does that make them English? No.

Australia is separate to Asia. We are not a part of Asia. We never will be a part of Asia. Geography has everything to do with it.

Stop being such an idiot.

We participate in the Asian Cup because an "Australian Cup" would be a walk in the park. New Zealand, PNG, Micronesia, Fiji? Seriously. We have our own A-League but when we're not competing in that, we will compete overseas. We have players who play in England, does that make them English? No.

Australia is separate to Asia. We are not a part of Asia. We never will be a part of Asia. Geography has everything to do with it.

Stop being such an idiot.

So basically you joined the AFC for your own convenience.

tough shit. Like i said, Australia cannot pick and choose where it will be for each and every competition.

So either get out of the AFC and then be part of Oceania or dont go prancing about as a separate continent when it suits you.


You cant simply take part in both camps at the same time.


Stop being thick, and understand that its an issue of Australia taking advantage of being a separate continent as and when it suits them.

It is you who is thick, and to no surprise, you're making a mountain out of a molehill...
As I said, Australia is capable of hosting the Olympics independently (or any other sporting event for that matter) as we have done in the past. Regardless of what competitions or what countries we play, we are Australia and always will be. Keep trying to convince people that Australia is a part of Asia because we play in the Asian Cup...?

It is you who is thick, and to no surprise, you're making a mountain out of a molehill...
As I said, Australia is capable of hosting the Olympics independently (or any other sporting event for that matter) as we have done in the past. Regardless of what competitions or what countries we play, we are Australia and always will be. Keep trying to convince people that Australia is a part of Asia because we play in the Asian Cup...?

how is this a mountain out of a molehill?

aus are bidding for the 2018/2022 Football world cup as part of Asia in which they will bank of the AFC vote to win it.

and for the 2020/2024 Olympics as part of Oceania.

People who judge is Olympics competition will no doubt see the hypocrisy of a nation trying to take advantage in sporting events as it deems more beneficial to itself disregarding basic geography.

I too personally think that Australia is not a part of Asia. But as they will play in the AFC cup it just reeks of hypocrisy.

^^

You're a fool. How demoralising for a national team if it gets beaten by 20 goals each game!? We are in the AFC for a challenge, we are part of the Oceanic Olympic whatever because that's our geographical location. Ugh some people are idiots!

@Ichimaru;

How is that at all hypocritical? If India were in a position in which it could benefit from joining either, I have no doubt in my mind that it would. That would make you hypocritical, right?
As I have said before, an Oceanic Cup would be of no competition to Australia... we would get no where. So we joined the AFC for a challenge. Why it bothers you that we've joined the Asian Cup but are not a part of Asia? I don't understand. Does it bother you that were an ASEAN Invitee considering we're not South East Asian too?

Edmonton?? Sorry, but :nuts:

It's the "Tulsa" of Canada.

And 'Olympic sized' stadium?? Which one? Commonwealth stadium? That puny & outdated structure (by SUMMER 'Olympic' standards) wouldn't even begin to salivate the mouths of those finicky IOC members, let alone them voting for the darn thing.

'Tulsa' of Canada. :lol:

Agree that Edmonton would need another couple decades of growth, but they do have a big stadium. Commonwealth Stadium is a lot of things, puny isn't one of them. Even with practically no seating at either end it seats over 62,000. Wrap the 2 tiers around both ends to form a complete bowl and you'd be looking at a stadium that's easily over 90,000.

Commonwealth Stadium is Puny?
http://www.yedmonton.ca/teen/images/soccer.jpg
http://www.yedmonton.ca/teen/images/soccer.jpg

what happened to this thread ? omg ! Australia is part of Oceania and taking part in AFC end of story, is it so hard ??

'Tulsa' of Canada. :lol:

Agree that Edmonton would need another couple decades of growth, but they do have a big stadium. Commonwealth Stadium is a lot of things, puny isn't one of them. Even with practically no seating at either end it seats over 62,000. Wrap the 2 tiers around both ends to form a complete bowl and you'd be looking at a stadium that's easily over 90,000.

Commonwealth Stadium is Puny?
http://www.yedmonton.ca/teen/images/soccer.jpg
http://www.yedmonton.ca/teen/images/soccer.jpg

I don't think Edmonton needs a 90,000 seater stadium, but expand to 70,000, perhaps add a retractable roof, and then you got a truly multipurpose stadium.

then why participate for football through Asia???

Dont you think your better off asking that question to the Australia authorities?

Australia cant compete through Asia in one comp and then bid for another comp as a "separate continent".

The day you joined the Asian AFC tells me for all sporting purposes your in the Asian continent.

Geography has nothing to do with it.

your actually quite stupid hence why your banned. People Australia is a continent its not rocket science.

Baku will be bidding, whilst Cape Town is a speculation. If Baku weren't bidding,

Once again. Where has Baku stated that it will be bidding?

Doha 2020

"Quiet Approach to 2020 Olympics for Qatar"

Plans for a bid from Qatar for the 2020 Olympics are proceeding even though the primary goal for now is to win the 2022 FIFA World Cup, the secretary general of the Qatar Olympic Committee tells Around The Rings.

Sheikh Saoud Bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani confirmed that Doha will be in the race for 2020, it’s second try after failing to make the shortlist for 2016.

The sheikh says the strategy is to keep things quiet while the battle to host World Cups in 2018 and 2022 is underway. That decision by FIFA is set for December 2010.

Al-Thani says he takes comfort from the decision to award Brazil the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics.

“I think that when the IOC chose Rio it opened a new gate. The area that is still missing an Olympics is the Middle East. Hopefully we can change that in 2020, but first we must focus on 2022,” explained Al-Thani.

“2020 will be on our agenda. Rio has the World Cup (2014) and two years later will have the Olympics. Maybe we will do the same, but the other way round.”

Doha lost out for 2016 due large part to stage the Games in October, rather than the traditional July/August dates sought by the IOC.

Al-Thani revealed that this time Qatar will accept the northern hemisphere mid-summer timing, arguing that technology and the changing world climate will come to the rescue.

“Ten years from now the weather will be different – we are already seeing the change. We can play at night in climate controlled stadia. At a recent event in our stadium a temperature no higher than 28 degrees centigrade was recorded,” claimed Al-Thani.

Qatar has recently staged world-class events in tennis, table tennis, weight-lifting and football, and will showcase its national stadium to the world on Saturday when football giants England and Brazil battle in a World Cup prep match.

Al-Thani confirmed that part of his government’s strategy is to bring more and more of these global events Doha.

“To bring a big event to the Middle East is very important. Impossible does not exist in our dictionary. Any event that will help our strategy to bring a major event to our country we will bid for,” he said.

Doha is not the only Arab Gulf city looking at the 2020 Olympics. Dubai in the United Arab Emirates is looking at the bid as well.


SOURCE (http://aroundtherings.com/articles/view.aspx?id=33691) :cheers:

'Tulsa' of Canada. :lol:

Agree that Edmonton would need another couple decades of growth, but they do have a big stadium. Commonwealth Stadium is a lot of things, puny isn't one of them. Even with practically no seating at either end it seats over 62,000. Wrap the 2 tiers around both ends to form a complete bowl and you'd be looking at a stadium that's easily over 90,000.

Commonwealth Stadium is Puny?


Yes, again, RELATIVELY speaking, Edmonton could be compared to Tulsa. So Edmonton has a stadium. Tulsa has the new BOK event center. Big deal. They're both very small metropolises with no real big infrastructure, other than a venue here & there, & neither has any international cache whatsoever.

And what I said was, by OLYMPIC "standards", 60,000 is puny. Read what's actually there. No, Commonwealth is not that small of a stadium, but for a Summer Olympic Games (like little L.D. enjoys to advocate), it IS on the much smaller end of the spectrum.

For the last time, 60,000 isn't puny. If it were, the IOC benchmark would have been at least 80,000. Baku isn't building a stadium of that size, yes, but a spectacular looking one at that.

Yeah, the Baku design is cool, but that's all it is. Nothing else there in any of the other crucial factors. But also for the last time, by "Olympic" standards, it IS on the smallish side.

Again, so what if 60,000 is the IOC benckmark, they have to set it at something but that doesn't mean that they have to settle for that number ALL the time. Again, when was the last time the pinnacle event of the Summer Olympics (the Ceremonies) was held at a stadium that small? You have to go back FIVE Summer Olympics (& that one was a fluke cause it was the Hometown of a very influential IOC president, since even before that you still had the big seaters of Seoul & Memorial colosium). The only way I could see the IOC "settleing" with their bare minimum is if all the OTHER crucial elements that can make or break a bid were there, which Baku doesn't have, not when there's other much more compelling candidates out there waiting in the wings.

Again, would you settle for the "minimum" in anything, especially if you easily have the choice of something better? Since when do people settle for the "minimum", if they can get so much bigger & better elsewhere. If one easily has the choices, they'll always go for the most grandiose. Why settle for the 'fruit bowl' when someone else is offering you the caviar.

Abuja has stadium too!

Doha 2020

"Quiet Approach to 2020 Olympics for Qatar"

Plans for a bid from Qatar for the 2020 Olympics are proceeding even though the primary goal for now is to win the 2022 FIFA World Cup, the secretary general of the Qatar Olympic Committee tells Around The Rings.

Sheikh Saoud Bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani confirmed that Doha will be in the race for 2020, it’s second try after failing to make the shortlist for 2016.

The sheikh says the strategy is to keep things quiet while the battle to host World Cups in 2018 and 2022 is underway. That decision by FIFA is set for December 2010.

Al-Thani says he takes comfort from the decision to award Brazil the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics.

“I think that when the IOC chose Rio it opened a new gate. The area that is still missing an Olympics is the Middle East. Hopefully we can change that in 2020, but first we must focus on 2022,” explained Al-Thani.

“2020 will be on our agenda. Rio has the World Cup (2014) and two years later will have the Olympics. Maybe we will do the same, but the other way round.”

Doha lost out for 2016 due large part to stage the Games in October, rather than the traditional July/August dates sought by the IOC.

Al-Thani revealed that this time Qatar will accept the northern hemisphere mid-summer timing, arguing that technology and the changing world climate will come to the rescue.

“Ten years from now the weather will be different – we are already seeing the change. We can play at night in climate controlled stadia. At a recent event in our stadium a temperature no higher than 28 degrees centigrade was recorded,” claimed Al-Thani.

Qatar has recently staged world-class events in tennis, table tennis, weight-lifting and football, and will showcase its national stadium to the world on Saturday when football giants England and Brazil battle in a World Cup prep match.

Al-Thani confirmed that part of his government’s strategy is to bring more and more of these global events Doha.

“To bring a big event to the Middle East is very important. Impossible does not exist in our dictionary. Any event that will help our strategy to bring a major event to our country we will bid for,” he said.

Doha is not the only Arab Gulf city looking at the 2020 Olympics. Dubai in the United Arab Emirates is looking at the bid as well.


SOURCE (http://aroundtherings.com/articles/view.aspx?id=33691) :cheers:

Dubai would be better.

What is your point? Your lists are just as retarded as Matthews. Quit posting them already... Will be interesting to see if India can even host the CWG.

You say Australia is too small to host any more games independently... Hello... We've hosted the Olympics twice on our own already and come 2050 our population will be more (or around) than 40 million (that's approx 7.6 million in Sydney, 8 million in Melbourne, and 5 million in Brisbane). We've proven ourselves on many sporting fronts (we don't have the highest participation and observation per capita, and sporting capital of the world for no reason). Also for the record, we're NOT a part of Asia, the continent is Australia.

Do you have statistics on the uneducated - of which I assume you're a part of?
By 2050, the population will still be way too small. It is nice to see some other countries hosting the games before going back to Australia. India will have 50 million in Delhi and 1.7 billion people in the country by then. You need to share the games with other people rather than hogging them. Australia hosted the games before and you should be satisfied with that. Australia is just part of Asia an will always be regarded as such, especially when it comes to deciding on the host city for the games.

Actually, I'd go for Doha, based on the fact of them hosting the Asian Games. It would be interesting to compare how the two bids shape up. Dubai would certainly use a 2020 bid in an attempt to rejuvenate the city.

Australia is just part of Asia an will always be regarded as such, especially when it comes to deciding on the host city for the games.

WTF? Speak for yourself, fool.

... Australia is just part of Asia an will always be regarded as such...

Is Europe part of Asia too....that continent is next to Asia as well? Do you want to claim all continents for your own?

^^ Australia and Asia combined is known as Asia Pacific region....isn't it..!!!!

However, not sure if one consider's Australia part of ASIA...ehrr

In terms of the Olympics it really depends on who's hosted before as to how "Asian" Australia is. I mean if Qatar hosts an Olympics, for example, I see no reason why Australia shouldn't follow. If Japan or Korea hosts a Games, an Australian Games straight after is probably more tricky. I think there is some fluidity with regard to continental boundaries as far as the IOC are concered.

I can see the final dispute between Madrid and Cape Town...

^^
With Madrid losing again.

^^
Well, Madrid is in a curious climbing. Madrid was 3rd in the race for 2012 and 2nd in the race for 2016. If Madrid continue to escalate, wins now.
But I think the IOC president wants: Cape Town.

Again, Madrid can play against a new area that has never hosted the games.

It is not easy.

Not while we still have the much bigger fish like the CONTINENT of Africa yet to host, the Muslim World, India (at some point), & not to mention the regular (Western) European hostings in between.


I would also include Southeast Asia and former communist Eastern European nations not named Russia as regions that the games would like to make a stop in when a good opportunity arises.

Equal 9th. Rome, Italy

Architecture: 9

Arts & culture: 7
Buzz: 7
Food & drink: 6

Quality of life: 6

World status: 7


Total/60: 42

to say food in rome is ranking as one of the worst is pretty daring, don't you think?even quality of life a bit undervalued, should be great 9 think about it:there's movida, shops within reach and u can find everything you need and safety level is pretty high-rankin

Never been to Rome but I have no doubt that it excels in local cuisine in spades. I think many foodies today though consider great resteraunt cities to have a wide cosompolitan global offering and perhaps Rome doesn't have that compared to some other cities to the same extant?

^^ Australia and Asia combined is known as Asia Pacific region....isn't it..!!!!

However, not sure if one consider's Australia part of ASIA...ehrr

"region" being the word...not "continent"!!!!! You can't base what is a continent off the name of a salesman's selling area....or a motherboard support site :)

Hands off our continent people....next you'll be changing wikipedia :lol:

^^
Well, Madrid is in a curious climbing. Madrid was 3rd in the race for 2012 and 2nd in the race for 2016. If Madrid continue to escalate, wins now.
But I think the IOC president wants: Cape Town.

Again, Madrid can play against a new area that has never hosted the games.

It is not easy.

Madrid's Olympic chances are as alive as Samaranch.

CONI finally officially nominates Rome as their 2020 Olympic Candidate.

http://ca.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idCATRE64I34D20100519?sp=true

As if there was really any other choice in the Italian mix.

Wowwww... Rome!

One of the most mythical cities in the world! It is already one of the favorites!

If Rome wins then all good :)

^^ Australia and Asia combined is known as Asia Pacific region....isn't it..!!!!

However, not sure if one consider's Australia part of ASIA...ehrr

Wrong Buddy:
Asia Pacific: South Asian/South East Asian/Australian nations and some Asian Pacific Ocean Island Nations (Not the whole of Asia)

Australia is condiered to be part of Asia only by FIVB/FIFA.
This is to provide Europe extra weightage in terms of votes/teams in champioship/rotational policies.
Politically and by the otehr Sporting Feds OZ are not considered with Asia.

Yesterday i had a 6 Hour meeting with Nawal El Moutawakel of Morocco. She was the president of evaluation commissions for the selection of the host city for the 2012 and 2016 Summer Olympic Games.
i will give you a short highlights.
The IOC is awarding the Olympics the citys that are Tourist hot spots for young people.
London becouse lots of young backpackers.
Rio fore great adventre.
So Cities like Melbourne, Toronto, Paris, Madrid, Rabet and Istanbul get the older tourist so they won't get the games.
Cities like Tokyo, Brisbane, Los Angeles, Orlando, New York City, Cape Town, Rome, Athens, Barcelona, Munich, Berlin, Moscow, Dubai, Singapore, KL, Taipei and Bangkok get the youth.
Baku LORD DAVID She said it will never get the olympics.
Australia is not in Asia. maldini you are retared i did not study at Uni of NSW australia for 4 years just to be told that Australia is apart of Asia. maldini go back to School.
maldini you said that Australia is being gredy of Hosting 2 olympics in 44 years.
The USA has hosted 4 olympics in 22 years.
1980, 1984, 1996 and 2002.
maldini it looks like that you need to go back to school.
Cape Town and South Africa need more work to inpove the Country and Cape Town International airport is too small to get the Olympics.
The Country need to work on fighting HIV, poverty and Crime in some areas.
Cape Town is a lovely city but it wont be ready by 2020.
Im a city planer for Cape Town. I got haired for 8 years to do work for Cape Town.
and if the Islam world get the Olympics then it will be in Kazakhstan, Malaysia and Turkey.

So this will be my final list from 2020 to 2044.

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Cape Town, South Africa
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece

Cape Town International airport is too small to get the Olympics.


Please elaborate. I am dying to hear why.

Yesterday i had a 6 Hour meeting with Nawal El Moutawakel of Morocco. She was the president of evaluation commissions for the selection of the host city for the 2012 and 2016 Summer Olympic Games.
Yeah, and I had tea with Barrack Obama yesterday.:nuts:

*epic facepalm*

Where the HELL does this one fall out of? LMAO. I VERY highly doubt you've set a toe in Cape Town considering the absolute nonsense you've spewed about the city dear Matthew.

He claimed he was in Vancouver for the Olympics a few months back and reckons he was hanging out with the IOC and they giving him the next host cities for 100 years pmsl!!!

Then don't forget his mathematical formulas....

Baku LORD DAVID She said it will never get the olympics.


Never? And how come? Sure it might not get 2020, but still, it will get it eventually. And don't compare it to Istanbul, unlike Istanbul Baku will always present a nice compact plan with ever growing infrastructure developments.

That, along with the successes of the Azeri Olympic team in forthcoming Olympics, will help Baku get an edition of the games.

^^Ugh. At it, yet again. :|

Because what the 'F' for? What would be the big motivation to go there, besides none, in the next 50 years. It's the only thing Matthew is right about.

What is it with your relentless "love" for Baku? Are you Azerbaijani or something? Do you have ties there of some sort? Because really, what is it with your bias & unrealistic fixation with this former Soviet, in a volatile region, not so grand, smallish capital??

And I would say yeah, in comparison to Istanbul, the Turkish capital stands a much better chance than Baku. Once Istanbul can get their act together & provide a plan that the IOC can see as feasible & acceptable, they're going to jump at taking the first Summer Olympics to a primarily huge (secular) Muslim country (not to mention the exotic location Istanbul would be, unlike Baku). There's a great geopolitical incentive in Istanbul, again unlike Baku, which still severely lacks in the necessary infrastructure to begin with, geesh. I also doubt that the Russians would be too fond of having one of their former, rebellious children hosting such a grand event in their own backyard.

^^Ugh. At it, yet again. :|

Because what the 'F' for? What would be the big motivation to go there, besides none, in the next 50 years. It's the only thing Matthew is right about.

What is it with your relentless "love" for Baku? Are you Azerbaijani or something? Do you have ties there of some sort? Because really, what is it with your bias & unrealistic fixation with this former Soviet, in a volatile region, not so grand, smallish capital??

And I would say yeah, in comparison to Istanbul, the Turkish capital stands a much better chance than Baku. Once Istanbul can get their act together & provide a plan that the IOC can see as feasible & acceptable, they're going to jump at taking the first Summer Olympics to a primarily huge (secular) Muslim country (not to mention the exotic location Istanbul would be, unlike Baku). There's a great geopolitical incentive in Istanbul, again unlike Baku, which still severely lacks in the necessary infrastructure to begin with, geesh. I also doubt that the Russians would be too fond of having one of their former, rebellious children hosting such a grand event in their own backyard.

darling.... Turkish Capitol is Ankara not Istanbul...:)
an yes ifwill make a feasible and compact plan for 2020 it will guaranntee 2024 Istanbul :)

Baku... nice city a good location oil rich place.. great russian stone work with Azeri designs.... but not have the oriental taste of Istanbul or the importance as high as her in global area..may be after 2060s but not yes Baku for now...

My bad.

I know the capital is Ankara, but so use to most of the big European capitals also being the largest cities (i.e. London, Paris, Moscow) that it just slipped my mind.

But thanks for the correction nonetheless.

Istanbul Urban area is only 40km by 18km
Istanbul will be the 1st Islam city to host The Summer olympics im puting my money on 2064. The IOC is only going to award the Olympics to South America 5 times in the 21st century And Africa 2 times.
And Mo Rush. Cape Town International Airport is to small and by 2020 it will be to small as well.
Im in charge of getting Hotels and Theme/Water Parks companys to set up their business to Cape Town. We got 60,000 hotels beds(29, 800 rooms)in 2690 establishments by 2020 i project that we will have 106,000 hotel bed with 54,000 Rooms. The IOC requires hosts cities to have 125,000 Hotel bed with 75,000 hotels rooms and from 2024. The Olympic Stadiums for the Summer games must have or over 85,000 seats and winter games 55,000 seats.
Lord David what is it with you and Baku?
The AOC says that after Brisbane will get next the summer games in Australia then Perth.
Ankara is in Asia. Istanbul is in Europe and Asia.

Istanbul Urban area is only 40km by 18km
Istanbul will be the 1st Islam city to host The Summer olympics im puting my money on 2064. The IOC is only going to award the Olympics to South America 5 times in the 21st century And Africa 2 times.
And Mo Rush. Cape Town International Airport is to small and by 2020 it will be to small as well.
Im in charge of getting Hotels and Theme/Water Parks companys to set up their business to Cape Town.

If that is true you're not very good at your job :lol:

And Mo Rush. Cape Town International Airport is to small and by 2020 it will be to small as well.

Please elaborate.

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Cape Town, South Africa
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece

if rome loses in 2020, it won't bid in 2024, because CONI will choose another city in the north (maybe Milan) so, we win in 2020 or it's over

The CONI said they will try Rome for 2020 and 2024 Games.
The IPC wants Rome to get the Olympics soon.
Tokyo will get the 2020 Games because they scored top marks and the Only thing that they have to do is build the Stadia and update the old ones. As well build the Athletes and media Village and the Broadcasting centre Japan will only need to spend only 3.6 billion US$ Tops on the Olympics.
I Love Italy but 2020 is a little bit soon but I'm putting my money on Rome 2024. Milan will host the next winter Olympics in Italy by 2042 or 2046.
Paris I believe that 2024 wont happen. but iv think the next Paris Olympics will be in 2044. The IOC and the modern Olympics was formed in Paris and 2044 will mark the 150th year of the Olympic Movement.
My Beloved Bangkok is getting unstable so the South East Asia 1st Olympics will be in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia in 2040

This will be my final list no more list Changes from 2020 to 2044

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Cape Town, South Africa
2040 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
2044 Paris, France

The CONI said they will try Rome for 2020 and 2024 Games.


Coni didn't say that :lol:

and that wont be your final list or fantasy story bout knowing ppl in high places either

This will be my final list no more list Changes from 2020 to 2044

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Cape Town, South Africa
2040 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
2044 Paris, France

And Madri?

2020: Matthew Lowry's Face
2024: Matthew Lowry's wee hole
2028: Matthew Lowry's Vagina
2032: Matthew Lowry's anus

The IOC said they want all of these places.

2020: Matthew Lowry's Face
2024: Matthew Lowry's wee hole
2028: Matthew Lowry's Vagina
2032: Matthew Lowry's anus

The IOC said they want to shit in all of these places.

:banana:

2020: Matthew Lowry's Face
2024: Matthew Lowry's wee hole
2028: Matthew Lowry's Vagina
2032: Matthew Lowry's anus

The IOC said they want all of these places.
Whipped!

2020: Matthew Lowry's Face
2024: Matthew Lowry's wee hole
2028: Matthew Lowry's Vagina
2032: Matthew Lowry's anus

The IOC said they want all of these places.

What about Bangkoc :?

As for Baku's bidding for the games, who knows if they'll ever get it, but if nothing else it's a way to get publicity for the country; lord knows, I had zero idea that area was so oil-rich and has become somewhat prosperous, and I'm sure more than a few here can fall into the same category.

I wouldn't be shocked if Cape Town gets it in 2020 due to the rumors that they want it in an African country. If they don't want it in the southern hemisphere two times in a row, then maybe Madrid will finally get it, or heck, it could be somewhere in North America, like Tulsa, Oklahoma. Hey, there are rumors they want it, even though it's the longest of long shots. Like I said, it's to get publicity.

As for Baku's bidding for the games, who knows if they'll ever get it, but if nothing else it's a way to get publicity for the country; lord knows, I had zero idea that area was so oil-rich and has become somewhat prosperous, and I'm sure more than a few here can fall into the same category.

I wouldn't be shocked if Cape Town gets it in 2020 due to the rumors that they want it in an African country. If they don't want it in the southern hemisphere two times in a row, then maybe Madrid will finally get it, or heck, it could be somewhere in North America, like Tulsa, Oklahoma. Hey, there are rumors they want it, even though it's the longest of long shots. Like I said, it's to get publicity.

It can happen: a smaller or unlikely city that puts together a decent proposal for the games. But in the end, money decides who makes the cut. Because the US government doesn't pay for Olympics, I can think of 5 cities that could pull it off. If the government did pay, we could have an Olympics in Scranton PA! :lol:

2020: Matthew Lowry's Face
2024: Matthew Lowry's wee hole
2028: Matthew Lowry's Vagina
2032: Matthew Lowry's anus

The IOC said they want all of these places.



Actually here is the updated list. Matthew Lowry just talked to the IOC and here is what they said:

2024: Matthew Lowry's anus
2028: Matthew Lowry's Vagina
2032: Matthew Lowry's wee hole
2036: Matthew Lowry's mouth

Ok now back to topic. The crazy doodads in Hobart still think they can mount a reasonably successful bid for the 2020 Olympics. Certainly not with their current proposals.

I'd scrap much of the Launceston venues save for football preliminaries at Aurora Stadium. That being said, football preliminaries MUST be proposed at Melbourne (MCG), Sydney (Olympic Stadium), Brisbane (Suncorp Stadium), Canberra (New Canberra Stadium), Perth (New Perth Stadium), therefore offering 6 venues, with Launceston's upgraded to say 30,000-35,000. Hobart will host the finals at it's Olympic Stadium.
Build a new velodrome in Hobart proper, with a new major arena, and several temporary ones (any new exhibition and convention centres will serve as IBC and MPC respectively, so much of the indoor sports will find a home in temporary pavilions).
Can't expand the Hobart Aquatics Centre so you keep it as is, whilst you build a new 12,000 seater pool and 6,000 seater pool nearby, one of which will be temporary, both outdoor with roofed stands.
The crown jewel of the Olympic Stadium can be 65,000-70,000 any higher capacity might not sell out given Hobart's population and such, not to mention the potential that a 100,000 seater could cause strain to Hobart's hotel infrastructure.
Keep sailing at Devonport if they want.

As for general infrastructure, people will primarily get around Hobart venues by an upgraded bus service. Hotel room numbers should be expanded to 20,000-30,000 minimum, supplemented by cruise ships serving 10,000 odd rooms at Hobart's docks. A media village with 10,000 rooms will avoid the need to house the media in hotels. Additional "rooms" can be found in serviceable apartments both existing and new to say up to 5,000 in numbers, as well as camping ground sites with a capacities of say up to 10,000+.
Overall, 50,000 "rooms" of varying types of accommodation should be on offer, for Hobart's small scale Olympics.
The airport will most definitely need expansion to meet world standards, add a new runway, perhaps a proper international terminal at the northern end? Or maybe one next to the existing terminal?

A lot of work and money will need to be invested to make Hobart 2020 viable, perhaps try and bid, see how you go and then better luck next time? I'd most definitely change the current proposed venue plan to make it more Hobart based.

well there are at least 30 countries can host this big event... no need to give a country again less than 50 years passed the last host i guess... torino 2006 rome 2020 ...:S
or barcelona 92 and madrid 2020...:S

isnt it so unfair?

^

Turin was a winter olympics.

Would everybody be interested in a "Live" poll.

Example: Each day voting opens, and the city with the least amount of votes is removed from the poll, until we have a winner.

The poll will last 24 hours each time.

Wikipedia would be used to select potential cities.

^

Yes and one for WC.

Would everybody be interested in a "Live" poll.

Example: Each day voting opens, and the city with the least amount of votes is removed from the poll, until we have a winner.

The poll will last 24 hours each time.

Wikipedia would be used to select potential cities.

Seems a bit early, but why not. I suppose we can always do another one when the applicant cities are known, and then another one when the shortlist is drawn up.

Yes, with so many cities it could carry on for quite a while!

May as well go for it :)

Not a bad idea. How bout make it every 48 hours though or even once per week? Just throwing it out there.

This is my Dead Set List
2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Cape Town, South Africa
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Rome, Italy
2040 Seoul, South Korea
2044 Athens, Greece

so was your last one, and the one before etc.

Now fall into a hole, please, and truly make it a dead set list.

I agree, if you die before you make another list, it would be a win-win situation
now leave this forum forever, along with your bigoted views about various countries (ie. the Sochi 2014 thread you made) due to the crap you read in tabloid newspapers and on those stupid conspiracy theory websites
if we want endless lists, then we'll get someone who actually knows something about the Olympic bidding process, the global sporting infrastructure and world politics, cos that way the lists will almost be slightly realistic
bye, and for the love of god no more lists

anyway, off retards and on topic, has anyone apart from Rome, which I know about, officially announced that they are bidding?
loving the idea of the live poll, Mo Rush

has anyone apart from Rome, which I know about, officially announced that they are bidding?


Istanbul also confirmed a few weeks ago that they are bidding for 2020 as well. So, so far 2 "confirmed" bidders.

Others that are still seriously pondering are Tokyo, Madrid & Dubai. And I'm sure we'll here more from South Africa on their actual intentions once the FIFA 2010 World Cup is over with.

And perhaps we'll also hear from other prospects once the 2018 Winter Olympic Games get awarded in July 2011. The losing countries MAY consider a 2020 Summer run, & that's IF they're actually working on a plan like that right now, just in case their 2018 Winter candidate fails (which seems doubtful, at this time, that they are).

This is my Dead Set List
2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Cape Town, South Africa
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Rome, Italy
2040 Seoul, South Korea
2044 Athens, Greece

SkyscraperCity should ban him

I've read somewhere Hobart Australia have been put ahead of Brisbane in 2020, what a risky move. I'll try to find the article...

Istanbul also confirmed a few weeks ago that they are bidding for 2020 as well. So, so far 2 "confirmed" bidders.

Others that are still seriously pondering are Tokyo, Madrid & Dubai. And I'm sure we'll here more from South Africa on their actual intentions once the FIFA 2010 World Cup is over with.

And perhaps we'll also hear from other prospects once the 2018 Winter Olympic Games get awarded in July 2011. The losing countries MAY consider a 2020 Summer run, & that's IF they're actually working on a plan like that right now, just in case their 2018 Winter candidate fails (which seems doubtful, at this time, that they are).

I am not sure if we can say its "official", but Sports minister, Prime Minister and other authorities said at the EURO 2016 bidding weeks that they want to host the EURO 2016 and that the Olympics in Istanbul are the main aim.
Some said "2020 Olympics in Istanbul" and other just "Olympics in Istanbul".

As far as i know NOC didn't say anything

^^
1980 Europe
1984
1988
1992 Europe
1996
2000
2004 Europe
2008
2012 Europe
2016
2020 Europe ??... IMO 2020 in Europe would be a surprise... except if the IOC becomes suddenly conservative...Anyway which is sure :
2024 Paris :D

I've read somewhere Hobart Australia have been put ahead of Brisbane in 2020, what a risky move. I'll try to find the article...

Must have something to do with the fact that they put their hand up, and Brisbane have not. I highly doubt Brisbane would bid for 2020, 2 years out of the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games in 2018.

I suppose Hobart might get the green light to go ahead if Tasmania fund all of the bid phase on it's own. The 500,000 US initial registration, and say the 2-4 million in the domestic promotion, applicant bid book and a proper website. Then if very lucky, 500,000 US in candidate fees and another 2-4 million in international promotion, catering the IOC inspection, candidature files, IOC session booth/presentation, celebrity and government presence during the IOC session, bid videos and final bid video.

Expect an easy 5 million minimum spent by the Tasmanian government for a bid, but realistically spend something along the lines of 8-10 million for a more competitive bid.

Must have something to do with the fact that they put their hand up, and Brisbane have not. I highly doubt Brisbane would bid for 2020, 2 years out of the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games in 2018.

I suppose Hobart might get the green light to go ahead if Tasmania fund all of the bid phase on it's own. The 500,000 US initial registration, and say the 2-4 million in the domestic promotion, applicant bid book and a proper website. Then if very lucky, 500,000 US in candidate fees and another 2-4 million in international promotion, catering the IOC inspection, candidature files, IOC session booth/presentation, celebrity and government presence during the IOC session, bid videos and final bid video.

Expect an easy 5 million minimum spent by the Tasmanian government for a bid, but realistically spend something along the lines of 8-10 million for a more competitive bid.
hmm, I'm thinking Leipzig or havana but worse
australia should really wait until, say, 2028 when they might have a good chance with a city like Brisbane or, preferably, Melbourne rather than waste 5-10 million on a city which almost certainly won't get past the applicant stage
mind you, as you said, it's not up to the Australians, but the tasmanians

I am not sure if we can say its "official", but Sports minister, Prime Minister and other authorities said at the EURO 2016 bidding weeks that they want to host the EURO 2016 and that the Olympics in Istanbul are the main aim.
Some said "2020 Olympics in Istanbul" and other just "Olympics in Istanbul".

As far as i know NOC didn't say anything

No, it's not "official", that's why I said *confirmed*, which high officials in the Turkish government & sports ministry have done so by stating their intentions on bidding for 2020. That's a pretty clear indication, I would say. And now that Turkey lost the bid for Euro 2016, I'm sure they'll focus now on a 2020 Olympic bid.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9531:turkey-bid-for-2020-olympics-confirmed&catid=122:2020-summer-olympics&Itemid=285

We can say really that no bid is official (even Rome's) at this time, until all interested NOC's have 'officially' submitted their candidate of choice to the IOC by their candidate application deadline, since any NOC can change their mind at the last minute.

But now they say that they will bid for EURO 2020 :)

Honestly IMO Istanbul won't win 2020 so IMO they will "cancel" the 2020 Olympics bid. I hope so. Losing to big bids in one year hurts (Expo 2015 Izmir last year and EURO 2016 this year)

But now they say that they will bid for EURO 2020 :)

Honestly IMO Istanbul won't win 2020 so IMO they will "cancel" the 2020 Olympics bid. I hope so. Losing to big bids in one year hurts (Expo 2015 Izmir last year and EURO 2016 this year)

You can't bid for both :lol:

I still think Turkey has a far, far better chance of landing the Euros than the Olympics.

2020 Olympic decision is in 2013.
2020 Euros decision I assume is in 2014.

At least they're the right way around if you are to bid for both as being in an Olympic bidding race mght put UEFA off, leaving you with only a slim chance of landing the Olympics afterwards.

Being in a Euro bidding race, on the other hand, won't make Istanbul 2020 any more of a long shot than it is already, and when that bid is lost you'll have a clear run at the Euros.

But the sensible decision would be to focus on the Euros in my very humble opinion.

I think majority prefers EURO and honestly i still do not believe that we will bid for the Olympics, because all statements of the authorities were more like "if we will get the Euro 2016 than it would be a god "promotion" for Istanbuls Olympic bid".

We need football stadiums and not Velodromes :D

^^I don't think Istanbul would win a 2020 Olympic bid either, but that doesn't mean that they won't bid.

Turkey seems all gung-ho about landing an Olympic Games, & especially now after Rio won 2016, somehow that makes Turkey strangely think that they have a better chance this time around because Brazil bid for it several times & finally got it. A little black-&-white mentality there on Turkey's part.

They've already bid 4 consecutive times, skipped 2016, so it's seems very clear that they're all 'a go' for 2020. But again, I'd agree with you, their chances for 2020 would be mediocre at best (that's not Turkey's time yet), especially if they haven't greatly brushed-up on their plans from their several previous failed attempts & if the competition is very strong.

The problem is we have a law here. The government has to bid for the Olympics (or something like that)

Actually majority do not wants the Olympics

Exactly. That is correct about the Turkish Olympic Law; "bid until we win". But obviously, that "law" could be suspended or put on hold since Turkey did not submit a bid for 2016, after their failed previous 4 attempts. Which is why they're talking so seriously about a 2020 run after their 2016 dry spell. They're anxious to get back on the saddle, especially after Rio's success. They'll be on the 2020 roster. Whether they have a decent chance at it, is a whole other story.

The problem is we have a law here. The government has to bid for the Olympics (or something like that)

You have an actual law that forces the government to bid to the Olympics until you win? Wow.

Can anyone find the actual wording of the specific article and post it here in English, please?

(Supposing, of course, that Turkiye uses a civil-law based system instead of a customary system as other islamic countries do - I'm not really familiar with your judicial system, sorry)

Actually majority do not wants the Olympics

Turkish people don't seem very perseverant to me. Every time they get repeatedly rejected at something it seems they apparently grow bitter and resentful and create a feeling of rejection towards it. If Meril Streep were like this she would have stopped submitting her performances to Oscar consideration a LONG time ago.

I really like the idea of a San Francisco Bay Area Olympics. That city definitely needs a new stadium for the Niners and/or Raiders. They definitely have a lot of the other required venues and the space. I think that Cape Town seems very possible for 2020 though.

I really like the idea of a San Francisco Bay Area Olympics. That city definitely needs a new stadium for the Niners and/or Raiders. They definitely have a lot of the other required venues and the space. I think that Cape Town seems very possible for 2020 though.

Have you seen SF's failed attempts to get 2012 and 2016? The spread out plan was disastrous, and it's Stadium proposal for 2016 wasn't exactly iconic.

Must have something to do with the fact that they put their hand up, and Brisbane have not. I highly doubt Brisbane would bid for 2020, 2 years out of the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games in 2018.

I suppose Hobart might get the green light to go ahead if Tasmania fund all of the bid phase on it's own. The 500,000 US initial registration, and say the 2-4 million in the domestic promotion, applicant bid book and a proper website. Then if very lucky, 500,000 US in candidate fees and another 2-4 million in international promotion, catering the IOC inspection, candidature files, IOC session booth/presentation, celebrity and government presence during the IOC session, bid videos and final bid video.

Expect an easy 5 million minimum spent by the Tasmanian government for a bid, but realistically spend something along the lines of 8-10 million for a more competitive bid.

Aswell as that I think they'd do it well better than Brisbane. And the air is so fresh down there. :)

You have an actual law that forces the government to bid to the Olympics until you win? Wow.

Can anyone find the actual wording of the specific article and post it here in English, please?

(Supposing, of course, that Turkiye uses a civil-law based system instead of a customary system as other islamic countries do - I'm not really familiar with your judicial system, sorry)



Turkish people don't seem very perseverant to me. Every time they get repeatedly rejected at something it seems they apparently grow bitter and resentful and create a feeling of rejection towards it. If Meril Streep were like this she would have stopped submitting her performances to Oscar consideration a LONG time ago.

Turks just now white or black :D
If a turkish club beats a big club "we are the best, we will win the cup"
If they lose "we are bad. We should close the club" :D


The law in Turkish
http://www.mevzuat.adalet.gov.tr/html/819.html

Goolge translate english :D
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mevzuat.adalet.gov.tr%2Fhtml%2F819.html&sl=tr&tl=en


Summary:
Turkey’s Parliament has enacted the first Olympic law in the world guaranteeing the full cost of staging the Games and the government has set aside fixed sources of revenues for facilities.

According to the Turkish Olympic law, there will be tripartite cooperation between the state, municipality and the NOC,...

I think Istanbul would be a very good bid, the first "muslim" country to be awarded the games without being a country where people actually enact sharia in a burning desert unfit for sport (read: all arab countries, more or less)

A bridge between Europe and Asia (Istanbul is neither Asia nor Europe in my view, so it cannot be counted too much on both for being "eliminated" for continent rotation)

A country which already has a good level of infrastructures which are getting better by the minute.

For me the other main contender is Cape Town. which could get a big boost if (as it seems likely) SA WC will turn out a big success story.

Europe will be likely represented by Rome. Spain and Madrid have other things to worry about and I do not think neither Germany nor France will bid.

Rome's candidacy could be strong in it's conservatorism (very, very few venues need to be built) in a lean time and for its aura as one of the world capital.

My bet so is

1) Istanbul
2) Capetown
3) Rome

All the others I think have no chance, including Tokyo and Madrid

Turks just now white or black :D
If a turkish club beats a big club "we are the best, we will win the cup"
If they lose "we are bad. We should close the club" :D


The law in Turkish
http://www.mevzuat.adalet.gov.tr/html/819.html

Goolge translate english :D
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mevzuat.adalet.gov.tr%2Fhtml%2F819.html&sl=tr&tl=en


Summary:
Turkey’s Parliament has enacted the first Olympic law in the world guaranteeing the full cost of staging the Games and the government has set aside fixed sources of revenues for facilities.

According to the Turkish Olympic law, there will be tripartite cooperation between the state, municipality and the NOC,...

Thanks Sercan!

Ah, ok, it seems to me that this law provides the general organization of the Olympic Commitee but doesn't have an enforceable provision obliguing Turkish cities to bid. That would be weird :nuts:

My bet so is

1) Istanbul
2) Capetown
3) Rome

All the others I think have no chance, including Tokyo

I wouldn't underestimate the Japanese in the least. If they decide to go after 2020 (which seems likely) & with Tokyo, they'll be one of the bids to beat. They'll have the massive infrastructure, the money, the geopolitcs & certainly the non-worries of preperations on their side. And continental rotation wouldn't be as much against them for 2020 as it was for 2016.

Even with continenteal rotation against Tokyo for 2016 (& with a city that already hosted), the Japanese still managed to shove away an American bid that definitely had rotation on it's side. So that means that the Japanese know all to lobby IOC members & have big influence.

The only 2 plausibilities that I see that could derail a Tokyo bid, is if Pyeong Chang wins 2018 &/or if South Africa finally decides to go after 2020 full throttle. Otherwise, 2020 is going to either Western Europe or Far East Asia.

This will be my last list back to my 1st. Then after i done The winter Olympics and commonwealth games list i will be taking a 8 mounth hoilyday from SC.
2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Cape Town, South Africa
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Rome, Italy
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece.

Bye Bye for 8 mounths.

This will be my last list back to my 1st. Then after i done The winter Olympics and commonwealth games list i will be taking a 8 mounth hoilyday from SC.
2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Cape Town, South Africa
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Rome, Italy
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece.

Bye Bye for 8 mounths.


No don't go!

This will be my last list back to my 1st. Then after i done The winter Olympics and commonwealth games list i will be taking a 8 mounth hoilyday from SC.
2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Cape Town, South Africa
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Rome, Italy
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece.

Bye Bye for 8 mounths.
THANK GOD!!!!

Brisbane????

This will be my last list back to my 1st. Then after i done The winter Olympics and commonwealth games list i will be taking a 8 mounth hoilyday from SC.
2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Cape Town, South Africa
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Rome, Italy
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece.

Bye Bye for 8 mounths.

:) brsibane la bangkok and athens:D

well :)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

2020 capetown / istanbul
2024 İstanbul / capetown
2028 tokyo
2032 NYC
2036 melbourne
2040 Paris
2044 Shangai

for me

Rome will be hard to top for 2020, but they may be making their run a little early. As Paris (2012) and Chicago (2016) showed, early favouritism can make it harder to win at the final vote where it counts.

What will work against Rome and other European bidders is if Munich beats PyeongChang for 2018. That will make 2012, 2014 and 2018 all in Europe. The world's media will jump on such a run as a perfect excuse not to award 2020 to Europe.

Cape Town would be sweet in 2020. Would the IOC have any problems with back-to-back southern hemisphere Olympics?

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Bangkok, Thailand
2040 Cape Town, South Africa
2044 Athens, Greece
2048 New York City, USA

Cape Town needs to host an all african games or commonwealth games before the olympic bid comes.
Cape Town was planning to bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games but did not go a head.
Nah, don't see why, they've already proven that they can host big events what with the World Cup. They might as well go for the big prize, seeing that it's only one step above the WC.

Matthew, would you be so kind as to draw us up a credible, even visionary list that goes all the way to 4052? Off you go :)

But Cape Town needs to host the Commonwealth Games before the Olympics to see how the city gose on a big muti sporting event.
They just need to host one more thing to get the Olympics and Paralympics Say Cape Town 2026 Commonwealth Games

CWG 2018 Gold Coast, Queensland. Australia
CWG 2022 Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago
CWG 2026 Cape Town, South Africa
SOG 2040 Cape Town, South Africa
No, if they had shown any intention of bidding for a CWG, which I doubt, they'd bid for 2018 (there's still time) or 2022, leaving options open for the olympics in 2020 or 2024.
I still doubt they'd bother going through all that, though. They don't need to show themselves to the world as capable of hosting big events like other places with less sporting prowess - Durban or Brisbane for example - that's part of the point of the World Cup.

But Cape Town needs to host the Commonwealth Games before the Olympics to see how the city gose on a big muti sporting event.
They just need to host one more thing to get the Olympics and Paralympics Say Cape Town 2026 Commonwealth Games

CWG 2018 Gold Coast, Queensland. Australia
CWG 2022 Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago
CWG 2026 Cape Town, South Africa
SOG 2040 Cape Town, South Africa

Why does Cape Town need to host the commonwealth games?
It's a passionless irrelevant tournament, It's not as if Sydney held any major international meets in the decade before winning the 2000 bid.
Though if it seems important that Cape Town or any other bid get a trial run of large tournaments they can look at the Athletics World Championships.

CWG 2018 Gold Coast, Australia
CWG 2022 none cos it's a waste of time and money
CWG 2026 "same as above"
SOG 2020 who ever wins the bid

Gold Coast will win for sure Hambantota, Sri Lanka no way in hell.

Port Of Spain will get the Games in 2022 becouse it a toursit hot sport and Trinidad and Tobago will be advance country by 2020.
They also got about 60% of the stuff neederd.

2026 Cape Town Cape Town has all ready host lots of single sporting events.

The reason why Rio de Janerio got the 2016 Olympics becouse they hosted the best pan american games in 2007.
The IOC dosent realy care about the FIFA they care about the Commonwealth games, Asian games, Pan American games.
The reason Rio won 2016 is because they were the most appealing of the four to the IOC, the Pan American games just gave them a few existing venues.
Sydney didn't need to host smaller events beforehand, neither did London, Athens, Atlanta, Barcelona, Beijing etc. So why do cape town need to? The IOC cares as much about FIFA as they do the Asian Games, Commonwealth Games etc., admittedly not very much, but they are all as important as eachother in finding flaws in the system - eg. transport, security.
Now research the rubbish that comes out of your mouth.

I hate to agree wit Matt, but Rio 2007 was an important factor; even if it wasn't the reason Rio won. Don't forget Rio 2012 didn't even shortlist. A large multi-sport event which was largely successful must have had an impact on Rio's win, and Rogge has acknowledged this to be so.

London didn't really need to prove anything in terms of its capabilty to host world-wide events (days before it won the games it was hosting Wimbledon, the Live8 concerts and test cricket on the same day). Neither did the US. Barcelona's victory can be put down to Samaranch. Greece won largely due to sentimentality.

Rio had the new froniter factor going for it, but the very strong field in 2012 combined with the feeling that the IOC would probably like to see how the PanAms went, meant that Rio didn't shortlist. They improved their plan for 2016, had everything going for them, AND crucially could say the PanAms were succesful.

So no, you can't generalise and a city NEEDS to host an event like this to win the Games, but nor can you say "the Pan American games just gave Rio a few existing venues". It did much more than that for Rio's and Brazil's standing within the IOC and was, at least in part, the difference between how they performed in 2016 compared with 2012.

Whether Cape Town NEEDS a multi-sport event prior to them being awarded is questionable given the success that the world cup has been in that city so far, however.

And it's not just the FIFA World Cup that Cape Town has been a host city for, either. The Rugby and Cricket World Cups - the third and fourth largest sporting tournaments in the world, have also been hosted in Cape Town in the past 15 years.

I hate to agree wit Matt, but Rio 2007 was an important factor; even if it wasn't the reason Rio won. Don't forget Rio 2012 didn't even shortlist. A large multi-sport event which was largely successful must have had an impact on Rio's win, and Rogge has acknowledged this to be so.

London didn't really need to prove anything in terms of its capabilty to host world-wide events (days before it won the games it was hosting Wimbledon, the Live8 concerts and test cricket on the same day). Neither did the US. Barcelona's victory can be put down to Samaranch. Greece won largely due to sentimentality.

Rio had the new froniter factor going for it, but the very strong field in 2012 combined with the feeling that the IOC would probably like to see how the PanAms went, meant that Rio didn't shortlist. They improved their plan for 2016, had everything going for them, AND crucially could say the PanAms were succesful.

So no, you can't generalise and a city NEEDS to host an event like this to win the Games, but nor can you say "the Pan American games just gave Rio a few existing venues". It did much more than that for Rio's and Brazil's standing within the IOC and was, at least in part, the difference between how they performed in 2016 compared with 2012.

Whether Cape Town NEEDS a multi-sport event prior to them being awarded is questionable given the success that the world cup has been in that city so far, however.
OK, maybe I was exaggerating a bit there, but I agree with you that Cape Town doesn't need a Commonwealth Games beforehand - maybe, if they think it'll help them, they'll bid for 2022, say, but it's not necessary for them - I'm sure they'd like to host the Olympics a lot more. The Pan American Games did help Rio a lot, but something like that's not really necessary for every single bidding city nowadays, as Matthew proposes.

an olympic games with vuvuzuelas everywhere¿?¿?¿ No,thanks

Vuvuzelas are only blown in football matches in SA. They aren't used in Rugby or any other sport. It's a non-issue.

Vuvuzelas are only blown in football matches in SA. They aren't used in Rugby or any other sport. It's a non-issue.
Super 14 Rugby Final

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In Soweto ;)

The 2020 Finalest

Cape Town
Istanbul
Madrid
Rome
Tokyo
Toronto

Top 2 Tokyo and Toronto

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Madrid, Spain they have far better Infrastructure then Rome
2028 Brisbane, Australia. 1982 and 2018 Commonwealth games. 1988 and 2020 World Fair. 2022 FIFA World Cup.
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Cape Town, South Africa.
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece
Um, Toronto might bid for 2020, but I don't think they'll get anywhere with it, maybe candidture at best. I can see where you're coming from with Tokyo, their bid for 2016 was very good, and in 2020 they'll have rotation on their side, unlike the European cities.
But the continent with the rotation truly on their side, and I think that if Cape Town or Durban can put in a technically sound bid, they'll have a very good chance.
And what's with Brisbane, man. You're just making up events that you think it will host. It's not even bidding for 2018, and if you think that it's close so it'll count you've obviously never been. 2020 World Fair? And with the 2022 WC, you said that the IOC don't care about the world cup, yet you're saying it'll win 2028 because it's hosting the WC

oh, and it finalist not finalest

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/7396/92896211.png

oh, and it finalist not finalest

Unfortunately I don't think it's his 'final list'...

Dude ya need to look up the dictionary for the word FINAL and clearly get what it means :)

Ive seen to much poverty in South Africa im moving away from SA. Cape Town 2088.

We all know you haven't set a toe in South Africa :lol: So why even bother?

2020 Will also be time for africa. :lol:

While I think they will luck out for the WC, I think the impressive promo Qatar is doing will put them in good order for a Doha bid

depending upon the challenges, I think they would be a very likely candidate

well the 2010 FIFA World cup is going on well and i had a 4 hour meeting with SA Goverment and the 2020 Cape Town bid team. Cape Town
so i have a change of Haert.
Cape Town is the most visted city in Africa and 4th most in SH.
Cape Town wont be qiet ready for the 2020 olympics but will be ready by 2028 Olympics.
Tokyo is a great place to vist if you go then summer time is the best time.
SO

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Cape Town, South Africa. Time for Africa.
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Brisbane, Australia
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece..
This is my last list.

well the 2010 FIFA World cup is going on well and i had a 4 hour meeting with SA Goverment and the 2020 Cape Town bid team. Cape Town
so i have a change of Haert.
Cape Town is the most visted city in Africa and 4th most in SH.
Cape Town wont be qiet ready for the 2020 olympics but will be ready by 2028 Olympics.
Tokyo is a great place to vist if you go then summer time is the best time.
SO

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Rome, Italy
2028 Cape Town, South Africa. Time for Africa.
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Brisbane, Australia
2040 Bangkok, Thailand
2044 Athens, Greece..
This is my last list.
I would believe you if Cape Town actually had a bid team for 2020, bearing in mind they haven't officially announced that they're bidding yet...
Did it really take 4 hours for the SA government to chuck you out of the building?

Bet £20 it's not his last list

Hahaha now you've PROVEN you're talking nonsense. The premier of the Western Cape (Helen Zille) said that Cape Town will consider bidding after World Cup earlier this week. There is no bid team yet.

i like:)
2020-tokyo japan
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/aismanggo/tokyo-tower.jpg

2024-kuala lumpur malaysia
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/aismanggo/259540634_5d17c645c5_b-2.jpg

2028-newyork USA
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/aismanggo/2264530167_c9b72e76fd_b.jpg

2032-dubai
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/aismanggo/dubai.jpg

2036-chicago
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/aismanggo/chicagoskyline2.jpg

2040-capetown africa
http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/aismanggo/capetown.jpg

^^ Asia will certainly not host 3 out of 4 Olympics and the US won't host 2 summer Olympics in 8 years !

^^ Asia will certainly not host 3 out of 4 Olympics and the US won't host 2 summer Olympics in 8 years !

but kl,tokyo and dubai is totaly different style....its like comparing india n japan..the culture,architecture,language, is so much different..its not like comparing newyork london chicago sydney..becoz these 4 city have more similar

^^ I agree, but for the IOC they're all three on the same continent and the IOC applies a kind of continental rotation !!

I don't think I could tolerate hundreds of hours of Olympic coverage with the constant drone of vuvuzelas in the background. Any bid from Africa would likely have to specifically include an agreement to ban these noisy nuisances.

I can see why all of those cities should host the olympics in the future, but wh no european ones? On average, about every second or third one is in Europe and there are loads of cities who want to host in the near future - Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam, Istanbul and Copenhagen have all shown their interest, yet you don't think a single European city should host between 2012 and 2044 at the least.
I know it's kinda sad, and it's probably gonna be wrong, but here's my prediction:

2020 - Cape Town, South Africa
http://africatamed.co.za/blog/images/Cape_Town,_South_Africa.jpg

2024 - Paris, France
http://intelligenttravel.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/28/paris_at_night.jpg

2028 - Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
http://www.seasonsinstyle.com/hotelimages/hotel_291_3033.jpg

2032 - Melbourne, Australia
http://www.mobility.unimelb.edu.au/incoming/images/video-images/melbourne-city-a.jpg

2036 - Berlin, Germany
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Berlin_Mitte_by_night.JPG

2040 - Chicago, USA
http://www.richard-seaman.com/USA/Cities/Chicago/Landmarks/ChicagoSkyline1.jpg

2044 - Dehli, India
http://www.funonthenet.in/images/stories/forwards/discover-india/new%20delhi/lotus%20temple%20delhi.jpg

2048 - Istanbul, Turkey
http://depts.washington.edu/chid/international/images/photo_lg_istanbul.jpg

2052 - Beunos Aries, Argentina
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~cbabroad/cba/Images/Faculty_Summer_clip_image001.jpg

2056 - Tokyo, Japan
http://ecobike.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/tokyo01.jpg

2060 - Madrid, Spain
http://www.targisol.csic.es/nupecc2010/Pictures/madrid1.jpg

Some uncertainties though, that's the thing with doing these stupid lists:
a) Chicago or Toronto in 2044
b) Is Dehli followed by Istanbul too much of a clash?
c) Should the Middle East get a games earlier?
d) Is there another country bar South Africa that can host in Africa?

Too many cities, too little time, I say...

I can see why all of those cities should host the olympics in the future, but wh no european ones? On average, about every second or third one is in Europe and there are loads of cities who want to host in the near future - Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam, Istanbul and Copenhagen have all shown their interest, yet you don't think a single European city should host between 2012 and 2044 at the least.
I know it's kinda sad, and it's probably gonna be wrong, but here's my prediction:

2020 - Cape Town, South Africa
http://africatamed.co.za/blog/images/Cape_Town,_South_Africa.jpg

2024 - Paris, France
http://intelligenttravel.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/28/paris_at_night.jpg

2028 - Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
http://www.seasonsinstyle.com/hotelimages/hotel_291_3033.jpg

2032 - Melbourne, Australia
http://www.mobility.unimelb.edu.au/incoming/images/video-images/melbourne-city-a.jpg

2036 - Berlin, Germany
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Berlin_Mitte_by_night.JPG

2040 - Chicago, USA
http://www.richard-seaman.com/USA/Cities/Chicago/Landmarks/ChicagoSkyline1.jpg

2044 - Dehli, India
http://www.funonthenet.in/images/stories/forwards/discover-india/new%20delhi/lotus%20temple%20delhi.jpg

2048 - Istanbul, Turkey
http://depts.washington.edu/chid/international/images/photo_lg_istanbul.jpg

2052 - Beunos Aries, Argentina
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~cbabroad/cba/Images/Faculty_Summer_clip_image001.jpg

2056 - Tokyo, Japan
http://ecobike.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/tokyo01.jpg

2060 - Madrid, Spain
http://www.targisol.csic.es/nupecc2010/Pictures/madrid1.jpg

Some uncertainties though, that's the thing with doing these stupid lists:
a) Chicago or Toronto in 2044
b) Is Dehli followed by Istanbul too much of a clash?
c) Should the Middle East get a games earlier?
d) Is there another country bar South Africa that can host?

Too many cities, too little time, I say...

The US wont go 44 years w/o the summer games, look for it in 2020 or 2024

The US wont go 44 years w/o the summer games, look for it in 2020 or 2024
At their current state, I recon 44 years is about right, but hey, if they get things together, they could have a chance for something like 2028, what do you say?
2028 is a strange year for me, it could be one of many places - Chicago or another American city, Toronto, Melbourne, KL, Tokyo, etc.

1932-84 is a big gap for the US not to host the Olypmpics so yeah. If Europe dont get 2020 then 2024 will be their turn again. Oh and great list Theo so much more realistic then matthews shit.

I can see why all of those cities should host the olympics in the future, but wh no european ones? On average, about every second or third one is in Europe and there are loads of cities who want to host in the near future - Paris, Madrid, Berlin, Amsterdam, Istanbul and Copenhagen have all shown their interest, yet you don't think a single European city should host between 2012 and 2044 at the least.
I know it's kinda sad, and it's probably gonna be wrong, but here's my prediction:

2020 - Cape Town, South Africa
http://africatamed.co.za/blog/images/Cape_Town,_South_Africa.jpg

2024 - Paris, France
http://intelligenttravel.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/28/paris_at_night.jpg

2028 - Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
http://www.seasonsinstyle.com/hotelimages/hotel_291_3033.jpg

2032 - Melbourne, Australia
http://www.mobility.unimelb.edu.au/incoming/images/video-images/melbourne-city-a.jpg

2036 - Berlin, Germany
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Berlin_Mitte_by_night.JPG

2040 - Chicago, USA
http://www.richard-seaman.com/USA/Cities/Chicago/Landmarks/ChicagoSkyline1.jpg

2044 - Dehli, India
http://www.funonthenet.in/images/stories/forwards/discover-india/new%20delhi/lotus%20temple%20delhi.jpg

2048 - Istanbul, Turkey
http://depts.washington.edu/chid/international/images/photo_lg_istanbul.jpg

2052 - Beunos Aries, Argentina
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~cbabroad/cba/Images/Faculty_Summer_clip_image001.jpg

2056 - Tokyo, Japan
http://ecobike.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/tokyo01.jpg

2060 - Madrid, Spain
http://www.targisol.csic.es/nupecc2010/Pictures/madrid1.jpg

Some uncertainties though, that's the thing with doing these stupid lists:
a) Chicago or Toronto in 2044
b) Is Dehli followed by Istanbul too much of a clash?
c) Should the Middle East get a games earlier?
d) Is there another country bar South Africa that can host?

Too many cities, too little time, I say...

TheoG you are Dum no olympics in Australia in 64 years.
Bangkok, Thailand will get the 1st Olympic in South East Asia not Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tokyo will get the Games in 2020.
Cape Town needs more work to do they will get the Games in 2028

^^ aww someone get ya nose outta joint with a more realistic list princess?

^^ :lol:
TheoG you are Dum no olympics in Australia in 64 years.
Bangkok, Thailand will get the 1st Olympic in South East Asia not Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tokyo will get the Games in 2020.
Cape Town needs more work to do they will get the Games in 2028
Hmm, not the smartest are you...
If you actually READ my list you would find this:


2032 - Melbourne, Australia
http://www.mobility.unimelb.edu.au/incoming/images/video-images/melbourne-city-a.jpg

And you accuse ME of being dumb...

Kuala Lumpur is a far more developed city than Bangkok ATM, and it'll still probably be the case in 2028 to some extent. Kuala Lumpur has big game experience, having hosted the 1998 Commonwealth Games and, by that point, probably an Asian Games as well. Please tell me what Bangkok has hosted...

2020 is gonna be close between Cape Town, Tokyo, Rome etc., but I think, if Cape Town can put in a good bid, the 'first African games' card will come into great effect.

What more work does Cape Town have to do, like, host a World Cup? Hang on...

Top 5 City to Host 2020 Olympic Games
1) Dubai
2) Rome
3) Tokyo
4) Toronto
5) Capetown

Cape Town has to win the national bidding process first. Chances are the national government will tell Durban to bid.

Cape Town is working on its World Design Capital 2014 bid in the mean time. After the World Cup the city will decide whether it wants to bid, weight up the costs and benefits etc.

^^ :lol:

Hmm, not the smartest are you...
If you actually READ my list you would find this:


And you accuse ME of being dumb...

Kuala Lumpur is a far more developed city than Bangkok ATM, and it'll still probably be the case in 2028 to some extent. Kuala Lumpur has big game experience, having hosted the 1998 Commonwealth Games and, by that point, probably an Asian Games as well. Please tell me what Bangkok has hosted...

2020 is gonna be close between Cape Town, Tokyo, Rome etc., but I think, if Cape Town can put in a good bid, the 'first African games' card will come into great effect.

What more work does Cape Town have to do, like, host a World Cup? Hang on...

i8 agree with you..in some aspect,bangkok is batter then kl,but kl is thousand times better then bangkok for multi sport evant,just look at their stadium,fasilities,and experience...no city in south east asian can bet it..is SEA,kl is first,singapore is 2nd then 3rd jakarta,4th bangkok then manila,laos,cambodia

I don't really want another Olympics in America unless it is Los Angeles. It would completely shut down Chicago, the best city in the world, or New York.

I don't really want another Olympics in America unless it is Los Angeles. It would completely shut down Chicago, the best city in the world, or New York.

I agree with you the Only cities in America That can host a Summer Olympics is Los Angeles and New York City maybe Orlando and Honolulu.

I wish the USOC stop putting crap citys like Chicago and for the 2020 race Dallas, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul and Tulsa are all Crap.
If they chosen Los Angeles for the 2016 bid then they would of won. Be honnest every youth LOVE Los Angeles with its movies and Disney.
If Los Angeles put on a bid for future games then they would win.
Los Angeles hosted the 1932 and 1984 Olympic Games and got world class weather. hardly ever rains in the summer time.

Taking about Bangkok. Bangkok get 10 million international vistors a year. they got the hotels and the sporting sadia from the 1966, 1970, 1978, 1998 Asian Games the 2007 uniside.
Bangkok and Thailand is growing faster then malaysia. Ive been to KL one of the most boring city in the World while Bangkok is Crazy fun over their.

In fact if Bangkok puts in a bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics then it would give Tokyo a fight. I hope they do put in a Bid but i read about them putting a bid for the 2028 Olympics.

The Next 4 Olympics in Asia will be Tokyo - Bangkok - Osaka - Manila
The Next 4 Olympics in Europe will be Madrid - Rome - Athens - Berlin
The Next 4 Olympics in Oceania will be Brisbane - Perth - Auckland - Sydney
The Next 4 Olympics in N. America will be Los Angeles - New York City - Toronto - Honolulu
The Next 4 Olympics in Africa will be Cape Town - Durban - Johannesburg - Cape Town
The Next 4 Olympics in S. America will be Rio de Janeiro 2016 - São Paulo - Fortaleza - Rio de Janerio

Honolulu? What are you on, man? Orlando? NYC? No on all of those. I don't want an American Olympics ever again.

Honolulu? What are you on, man? Orlando? NYC? No on all of those. I don't want an American Olympics ever again.

there is no point in arguing with ML, his lists change every 5 seconds... did you see his proposal ? 2 cities in Japan for the next 4 Olympics !! sorry but these type of things will not happen, and Rio again ? seriously ? you know there should be "new" cities to be discovered around the world.

I agree with you the Only cities in America That can host a Summer Olympics is Los Angeles and New York City maybe Orlando and Honolulu.

I wish the USOC stop putting crap citys like Chicago and for the 2020 race Dallas, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul and Tulsa are all Crap.
If they chosen Los Angeles for the 2016 bid then they would of won. Be honnest every youth LOVE Los Angeles with its movies and Disney.
If Los Angeles put on a bid for future games then they would win.
Los Angeles hosted the 1932 and 1984 Olympic Games and got world class weather. hardly ever rains in the summer time.
Hang on, so youre saying Chicago is crap and Orlando or Honolulu are better...
The USOC aren't putting any of those cities for 2020 in following Chicago 2016 - they've specifically said this.
You've been reading wikipedia haven't you?

Taking about Bangkok. Bangkok get 10 million international vistors a year. they got the hotels and the sporting sadia from the 1966, 1970, 1978, 1998 Asian Games the 2007 uniside.
Bangkok and Thailand is growing faster then malaysia. Ive been to KL one of the most boring city in the World while Bangkok is Crazy fun over their.

In fact if Bangkok puts in a bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics then it would give Tokyo a fight. I hope they do put in a Bid but i read about them putting a bid for the 2028 Olympics.
The unavoidable fact of the matter is that Kuala Lumpur, however dull you think it may be, is far more capable of hosting a large scale sporting event than Bangkok, end of.
Bangkok would never give Tokyo nor Kuala Lumpur a run for it's money, it simply cannot be compared to them.

The Next 4 Olympics in Asia will be Tokyo - Bangkok - Osaka - Manila
The Next 4 Olympics in Europe will be Madrid - Rome - Athens - Berlin
The Next 4 Olympics in Oceania will be Brisbane - Perth - Auckland - Sydney
The Next 4 Olympics in N. America will be Los Angeles - New York City - Toronto - Honolulu
The Next 4 Olympics in Africa will be Cape Town - Durban - Johannesburg - Cape Town
The Next 4 Olympics in S. America will be Rio de Janeiro 2016 - São Paulo - Fortaleza - Rio de Janerio
Athens will probably not, and should not really, bid for a long time, following the damage the 2004 games have done to the economy, they are not stupid. As well, Paris is perfectly capable of hosting in the next decade or two, and have shown a great eagerness in recent years to do so.

Brisbane, Perth and Sydney will not all host before Melbourne do, Melbourne is Australia's, and arguably the world's, sporting capital.

Los Angeles won't host again for a long
time, we've already seen what they can do. New York probably won't enjoy the extra congestion the games would bring, hence they've only bid once in the history of the games. Honolulu is nowhere near big enough to host an Olympics.

I'm sure other countries in Africa would be able to host in 50 to 75 years or so, probably Casablanca, Cairo or Nairobi.

Same with South America, but more so. Beunos Aries will host before Sao Paulo, Fortaleza and probably Rio again. I'd expect Brasilia to be the next city in Brazil to host.

2020 in RUSSIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
RUSSIA IS GOING TO DO A FEW IMPRESSIVE GAMES
SAINT PETERSBURG 2020

Cape Town 2020! We rocked the QF. Thousands on the fan walk.

ST.PETERSBURGGGGGGGGGG
CAPE TOWN NOOOOOOOOOOOO

2020 - I think this could end up being a three way fight. Rome, Tokyo, Madrid.

The final three will be,

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
Kingston, Jamaica

My vote goes to Kingston!

The final three will be,

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
Kingston, Jamaica

My vote goes to Kingston!

:sleepy:

2020 in RUSSIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
RUSSIA IS GOING TO DO A FEW IMPRESSIVE GAMES
SAINT PETERSBURG 2020

Too soon after Sochi 2014. I shouldn't expect St Petersburg to be Russia's next Summer Olympics bid, they'll go with a Moscow bid again, using the Luzhniki Stadium, at a potential post World Cup expanded capacity, that returns the athletics track, adds a new tier, expands the concourses and a new roof.
Alternatively, a new athletics purpose stadium could be built, seating 70,000-80,000 with Luzhniki Stadium, for the football finals.

Moscow doesn't appear at the moment and san petersburg yes

Moscow doesn't appear at the moment and san petersburg yes

Either way, too soon for Russia.

The final three will be,

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
Kingston, Jamaica

My vote goes to Kingston!

Go Kingston, but it looks like Haiti have there eyes set for the Olympics..

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI—Emphasizing the country's warm tropical climate, vibrant culture, and long-term plans to cultivate farmland capable of sustaining actual crops, the Haitian Olympic Committee formally announced its bid Monday to host the 2216 Summer Games.



Officials say the Games will be broadcast via satellite should the country happen to develop a space program by then.
Organizers of the LXXXI Olympiad, which would be held in the capital city of Port- au-Prince, said the event will showcase the many attractions that are sure to be conceptualized, financed, and constructed over the next 207 years.

"These Olympics will be the greatest the world has ever seen, provided inflation doesn't render the Gourd worthless and we manage to stumble into some kind of lasting stability in the next 20 decades or so," declared committee president Jean-Edouard Baker, standing beside a stack of burning tire shavings where he believes the Olympic flame may one day be housed. "2216 is our time."

Haitian leaders believe Port-au-Prince to be the ideal location for the games due to a number of civic improvements that could, in theory, be made there.

According to Baker, the city will try to compensate for its lack of passable roads and safe bridges by building a high-speed rail system which, "with a little luck," might someday connect to an Olympic village.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/haiti-makes-bid-for-2216-olympics,2798/

:banana::banana:

What have you guys been smoking !!

The final three will be,

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
Kingston, Jamaica

My vote goes to Kingston!

Can Darwin offer Crocodile Wrestling as a demonstration sport?
The mascot will be "Shorty" the Darwin Stubby
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200805/r250230_1027512.jpg

If Cape Town, South Africa lost the 2020 bid then they may win the 2024 or 2028 Olympic Games. But i think fighting the Poverty and HIV comes before the Olympic Games.

Cape Town will be up agganist 3 other best citys they are. Tokyo, Japan. Rome, Italy. and Madrid, Spain.

Ive been to Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur. Bangkok is way better then KL even it is less advance then KL. It the Best place in the south east Asia Bangkok.

2020 Tokyo, Japan
2024 Madrid, Spain
2028 Brisbane, Australia
2032 Los Angeles, USA
2036 Bangkok, Thailand
2040 Cape Town, South Africa
2044 Paris, France

Excellent list, matthew, fantastic! :okay:

^^
I do hope that was sarcasm :lol:

2020-Saint Petersburg
2024-Manila
2028-Madrid
2032-Miami
2036-Yekaterinburg
2040-Auckland
2044-Jakarta
2048-Tallin
2052-Nairobi
2056-Vladivostok :D
Spain and Russiaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Excellent list, matthew, fantastic! :okay:

:hilarious

2020-Saint Petersburg
2024-Manila
2028-Madrid
2032-Miami
2036-Yekaterinburg
2040-Auckland
2044-Jakarta
2048-Tallin
2052-Nairobi
2056-Vladivostok :D
Spain and Russiaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Yeah, the Matthew Lowry look (making endless stupid lists) - not cool
Shush it now, you're not even Russian
It's like me deciding to be a lifelong devotee to Argentina, it's kinda random
Are St Petersburg even bidding?

I would like this way.
Also San Petersburg presents before himself for 2020 and has many options and I like many madrid and yekaterinburg

Always Moscow and Moscow and the rest of Russia what.
There are more cities than Moscow that for something is the biggest country of the world.

However, only Moscow and St Petersburg have the size and international appeal to host the games, so forget about Yekaterinburg and the rest.

Cape Town 2020! We rocked the QF. Thousands on the fan walk.

:lol:
Lots of self praise
What do you have to say about the S Korea II round match with 30,000 attendance out of a 49,000 max capacity?

Yekaterinburg has more than 1 million inhabitants.
Then because Venice or Tulsa present before themselves if they are smaller.

:lol:
Lots of self praise
What do you have to say about the S Korea II round match with 30,000 attendance out of a 49,000 max capacity?

Nelson Mandela Bay.

^^ :lol:

Hmm, not the smartest are you...
If you actually READ my list you would find this:


And you accuse ME of being dumb...

Kuala Lumpur is a far more developed city than Bangkok ATM, and it'll still probably be the case in 2028 to some extent. Kuala Lumpur has big game experience, having hosted the 1998 Commonwealth Games and, by that point, probably an Asian Games as well. Please tell me what Bangkok has hosted...

2020 is gonna be close between Cape Town, Tokyo, Rome etc., but I think, if C...... Hang on...

KL: I do not see happening till 2032.
KL had a bad outing when it bid for 2010 YOG and did not make it to the final list of candidates also.
They had bad scores on Culture, Youth Program, Legacy grounds (<2 out of 10 in most of these).

Capetown needs a lot of infrastructure to come up with something like Olympics and the legacy & financial success/failure of the SA 2010 will be very important.

Yekaterinburg has more than 1 million inhabitants.
Then because Venice or Tulsa present before themselves if they are smaller.
So do Birmingham and Manchester, did they get anywhere? There are so many cities more deserving of the olympics than Yekaterinburg, that's a fact

WHY?

:lol:
Lots of self praise
What do you have to say about the S Korea II round match with 30,000 attendance out of a 49,000 max capacity?

Cape Town.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4139/4759424591_7dfb758119_b.jpg
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Cape Town shows the world how to street party




 We were hoping to get 100 000 people on the Cape Town Fan Walk for the Germany vs Argentina 2010 World Cup Quarter Final match. At its peak, the Fan Walk hit an estimated 153 000! This means that when 65 000 people were in the stadium, over 90 000 continued to enjoy the Fan Walk. No ticket, no problem!

It may not be as big or as glamorous as the Rio carnival, but I reckon that a new Cape Town people’s tradition has been born through the 2010 World Cup Fan Walk experience. People have walked at night, they have walked in wind and rain. And the Fan Walk has been getting bigger on every occasion as the word spreads amongst locals.

The key challenge is going to be how we sustain this tradition for all future events at the Cape Town Stadium. Watch this space…


http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1275.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1275.JPG)What started out as a trickle...

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1311.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1311.JPG)...soon became a flood

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1290.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1290.JPG)A sea of people moving through the city


http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1305.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1305.JPG)Up the short hill on Waterkant, just before Long Street


http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1313.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1313.JPG)A view of the crowd from Sea Street. I like the fact that the first section of the Fan Walk follows the original Cape Town shoreline, hence the name Waterkant (Waterside) and Sea Street. Explicitly signposting this route could become a feature of future Fan Walks


http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1299.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1299.JPG)Crossing Loop Street


http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1296.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1296.JPG)A Dutch supporter outside the Crowbar in Waterkant St already preparing for Tuesday's semi-final against Uruguay, where he will be joined by an estimated 20 000 of his compatriots


http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1292.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1292.JPG)Crossing Bree Street

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1295.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1295.JPG)Despite the large numbers of people, I was impressed how well the traffic officers were able to control the flow of cars. Eventually, roads had to be closed because of the sheer volumes. Note the number of parents with young children

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1326.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1326.JPG)A family enjoying lunch at the Silver Moon Deli (corner Bree and Waterkant)

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1333.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1333.JPG)The Cape Town Fan Walk - now a family occasion

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1324.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1324.JPG)Double decker crossing across Buitengracht

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1357.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1357.JPG)When the route along Waterkant became too congested, fans opened up a parallel route along Riebeeck St

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1360.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1360.JPG)Argentinean fans race along Riebeeck Street

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1364.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1364.JPG)St Andrew's Square/ Prestwich Memorial (cnr Buitengracht and Riebeeck St), with its live music and public art, has become a popular spot to join the Fan Walk

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1365.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1365.JPG)A seriously large crowd outside the Cape Quarter in Green Point, another popular watering hole along the Fan Walk

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1366.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1366.JPG)Performers from the Cape Town Carnival have added a festive and colourful touch to the Fan Walk experience

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1368.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1368.JPG)A small boy watches a stilt walker outside the Cape Quarter

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1374.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1374.JPG)Enthusiastic German supporters outside the Victoria Junction Hotel

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1370.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1370.JPG)Party girl!

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1373.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1373.JPG)Somerset Road

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1376.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1376.JPG)Somerset Road

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1380.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1380.JPG)German supporters decorated Signal Hill for the occasion

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1377.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1377.JPG)The trading stalls, with a wide variety of goods, proved very popular with the crowd

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1386.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1386.JPG)The signs say it all. The Fan Walk provides a 2-3 hour pre-match experience for locals and visitors to mix, enhancing a sense of participation

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1388.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1388.JPG)Hats off to the South African Police Services for stepping into the stadium security role smoothly at the last minute, when security workers went on strike. Many fans have commented on how welcome the police made them feel.

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1425.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1425.JPG)As dusk falls, fans make their way back to the station, or to upper Long Street to continue the party

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1431.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1431.JPG)Back along the Fan Walk into town

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1435.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1435.JPG)Tired but happy fans celebrate down the Waterkant Hill

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1440.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1440.JPG)Another popular landmark - Brett Murray's Bart Simpson in Africa sculpture (corner Waterkant and St George's Mall)

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1445.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1445.JPG)The new at-grade crossing from Exchange Place to the Station Square has worked perfectly, and also allows fans to see the festive season lights in Adderley Street

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1447.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1447.JPG)Nearly there! Fans have reacted extremely positively to the upgraded Cape Town Station

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1465.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1465.JPG)Many fans reacted spontaneously to the Madiba flag

http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1468.JPG (http://www.andrewboraine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_1468.JPG)Hours after the match, a few fans straggle back along the Fan Walk

you know ekaterinbnurg

Same with South America, but more so. Beunos Aries will host before Sao Paulo, Fortaleza and probably Rio again. I'd expect Brasilia to be the next city in Brazil to host.
^^
What's going on with you all? Brazil is not the only country able to host olympic games, c'mon!. Some cities like Lima, Bogota, Santiago, Caracas, Quito, Montevideo, Buenos Aires, Medellin, Valencia... could host this game someday... :ohno:

KL: I do not see happening till 2032.
KL had a bad outing when it bid for 2010 YOG and did not make it to the final list of candidates also.
They had bad scores on Culture, Youth Program, Legacy grounds (<2 out of 10 in most of these).

Capetown needs a lot of infrastructure to come up with something like Olympics and the legacy & financial success/failure of the SA 2010 will be very important.
KL: Well, providing they put in a good bid and win the 2019 Asian games, then I think they'll have a good chance for the olympics. The 1998 commonwealth games were a huge success, remember.

Cape Town: Agreed, a lot hangs on the long term outcome of the WC, that could end up being a major factor in a SA Olympic bid. I'm still optimistic, though...



WHY?
Well, there's Cape Town, from a continent that's never hosted, there's Paris, the birthplace of the modern olympics, there's Kuala Lumpur, a big city proven to host big events well, there's Melbourne, the sporting capital of the world, there's Berlin, who haven't hosted since the nazi era, there's Chicago, one of the worlds biggest cities with one of the best skylines, there's Dehli, in the largest country never to host...do you want me to go on...
^^
What's going on with you all? Brazil is not the only country able to host olympic games, c'mon!. Some cities like Lima, Bogota, Santiago, Caracas, Quito, Montevideo, Buenos Aires, Medellin, Valencia... could host this game someday... :ohno:
That's kinda the point I was making, since Mr Lowry had decided that Fortaleza would host before any other city outside Brazil, but hey...

yekaterinburg its very modern

Cape Town (Part 1)

Beach Volleyball

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/4765359137_9fa6fb3baa_z.jpg

Archery - (Newlands Cricket Ground)

http://www.batnball.co.za/Photos/SaharaPark2.jpg

Badminton/Rhythmic Gymnastics - (Good Hope Centre)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4765299293_7a87c2c399_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/3109427536_0b89b34022_b.jpg
Boxing - OR Tambo Centre

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4765298613_59a3410202_b.jpg

Cycling (Track)/Cycling (BMX)/Cycling Mountain Bike

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4765107252_5f024c9787_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/3128126031_3f67245763_z.jpg?zz=1
Equestrian - Kenilworth Racecourse

http://www.saddleup.co.za/images/kenilworth_trackl.jpg

Football - Athlone Stadium

http://www.chrisjacobs.co.za/downloads/flyafrica/aerial/IMG_5256_p1.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08R62374MS1B6/610x.jpg
Fencing/Table Tennis/Taekwondo - Cape Town International Convention Centre

http://capetownhotels.co.za/attraction-photos/big_convention-centre-55.jpg

Hockey - Hartleyvale Hockey centre

http://capetown2020.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/hart-21.jpg

Weightlifting - Grand Arena

http://www.rodlindesign.co.za/getattachment/8B68B7BB-89A1-4A44-89C1-708B04FEF6A5/PIC76.aspx?maxsidesize=500

http://www.greenperspective.co.za/images/portfolio/landscaping/c2_big.jpg

Aquatic Centre - Newlands (Planned)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4765298289_e503f6acf8_b.jpg


Modern Pentathlon - University of Western Cape

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4765974670_671670f287_b.jpg


http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/03/30/04/32/3094706_911x467.JPG


Sailing - Table Bay Harbour

http://www.uct-cmc.co.za/File_Uploads/images/Yacht%20club_1.jpg

Rowing/Canoe-Kayak

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/3103663637_a1df5b604b_z.jpg?zz=1

Cape Town (Part 2)

- Football
- Rugby 7's
- Triathlon
- Tennis
- Cycling (Road)
- Marathon Swimming
- Athletics (Marathon)
- Golf

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4765393321_dbca6c723a_z.jpg

KL: Well, providing they put in a good bid and win the 2019 Asian games..... ed, there's Paris, the birthplace of the modern olympics,
...

Dude, You are wrong Athens was again the Birth place of Modern Olympics too not Paris.
Paris followed Athens in 1900 and hosted once more in 1924.

But the French have learnt a lesson from English.
The English claimed no English City could even bid to host the Summer Games, for the giant it has turned out to be, after burning their fingers with repeated failed Birmingham and Manchester bids.
Hence they again chose London for 2012.

Capetown, I suppose may turn out to be like Istanbul if they just keep keep playing the Africa card, the way Istanbul says "Bridging of Continents/Cultures"

Cape Town (Part 1)

http://www.batnball.co.za/Photos/SaharaPark2.jpg

Badminton/Rhythmic Gymnastics - (Good Hope Centre)


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4765298613_59a3410202_b.jpg

Cycling (Track)/Cycling (BMX)/Cycling Mountain Bike

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4765107252_5f024c9787_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/3128126031_3f67245763_z.jpg?zz=1
Equestrian - Kenilworth Racecourse

http://www.saddleup.co.za/images/kenilworth_trackl.jpg

Football - Athlone Stadium


http://capetownhotels.co.za/attraction-photos/big_convention-centre-55.jpg

Hockey - Hartleyvale Hockey centre

http://capetown2020.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/hart-21.jpg

Weightlifting - Grand Arena

http://www.rodlindesign.co.za/getattachment/8B68B7BB-89A1-4A44-89C1-708B04FEF6A5/PIC76.aspx?maxsidesize=500

http://www.greenperspective.co.za/images/portfolio/landscaping/c2_big.jpg

Aquatic Centre - Newlands (Planned)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4765298289_e503f6acf8_b.jpg


Modern Pentathlon - University of Western Cape

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4765974670_671670f287_b.jpg


http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/03/30/04/32/3094706_911x467.JPG


Sailing - Table Bay Harbour

http://www.uct-cmc.co.za/File_Uploads/images/Yacht%20club_1.jpg

Rowing/Canoe-Kayak

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/3103663637_a1df5b604b_z.jpg?zz=1


Aquatic Complex: The pic is quite funny with 10000 and sketch of people. Are there any stands for spectators or will it be closed doors?:lol:
Equestrian: Is there any Pavillion or any structure or is it a children's playground?
Hockey: Vow, One single side of the pitch with a stand!
Badminton: Is that an Olympic Std training Hall? Does not seem to be of Competition Venue for Gymnastics.
Gr8 imagination though a la Lords for Archery

Mo...
We understand you passion for Capetown to host the SUmmer Games.
Pls post decent pix and hopefully SA Olympic Committee does not post these pix in the bid Document either.:lol:

2020 - Harare
2024 - Timbuktu
2028 - Bloemfontein
2032 - Windhoek
2036 - Gaborone

This is my final list!

2020 - Harare
2024 - Timbuktu
2028 - Bloemfontein
2032 - Windhoek
2036 - Gaborone

This is my final list!

:D and Yekaterinburg 2040 :D:D

Aquatic Complex: Is quite funny. Are there any stands for spectators or will it closed doors?:lol:


Equestrian: Is there any Pavillion or any structure or is it a childrens playground?


Hockey: Vow, I single side of the pitch with a stand!



When did Cricket become an Olympic Sport?




I'll focus on the points raised and ignore the usual 5 year old rubbish.

1. Aquatic Centre: see link (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=687004) Note in brackets....It is planned.

2. Equestrian:http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4138/4765507703_7760954568_b.jpghttp://farm5.static.flickr.com/4093/4765506981_3a7b1a34ee_z.jpg

3. Hockey: Why on earth would Cape Town need a hockey stand larger than 3,000? This venue is in legacy mode, any additional seating as per the Atlanta 1996 Olympic Qualifier/ IHF Champions Challenge will use additional temporary seating.

4. see Lords/London 2012
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01600/lords-2_1600330c.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01600/lords-1_1600313c.jpg

Alternative Venue: Suited to the alignment of the archery range

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3104/3128126289_288d8370e6.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4765527813_d7803c9511_z.jpg

5. Badminton: Yes. It seats 6,000 at capacity, 1,000 more than the IOC requirement. Note, this is the rhythmic gymnastics venue. It has already hosted gymnastics, table tennis, and other major events. Its high ceiling ensures no issues for gymnastics.

The earliest gymnastics event was the South Africa Cup in 1996.

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Anything else?

Aquatic Complex: The pic is quite funny with 10000 and sketch of people. Are there any stands for spectators or will it be closed doors?:lol:
Equestrian: Is there any Pavillion or any structure or is it a children's playground?
Hockey: Vow, One single side of the pitch with a stand!
Badminton: Is that an Olympic Std training Hall? Does not seem to be of Competition Venue for Gymnastics.
Gr8 imagination though a la Lords for Archery

Mo...
We understand you passion for Capetown to host the SUmmer Games.
Pls post decent pix and hopefully SA Olympic Committee does not post these pix in the bid Document either.:lol:

Wow, you really are dim :lol:

Where are your photos of Delhi's amazing bid? He went through the effort of sourcing photos. Instead of complaining, perhaps you'll do us all the favour of enlightening us to what is so amazing about Delhi's potential bid?

The International Aquatic Centre is going to be built, for starters :lol: Hence there being no photos of it. Of course the equestrian site has a grand stand. Are you blind? Of course venues are going to be upgraded/expanded for the Olympics :hilarious

I'm still waiting for the photos of Delhi we all requested months ago...

Cape Town its good but when other cities extract his projects it is going to remain behind.

Kuala lumpur and Delhi have retired, in Dubai it is very hot in summer, Austalia I don't believe that it wins, in America they aren't going to be, South Africa isn't qualified therefore gives me that they are going to be in Europe (St Petersburg, Rome, Madrid)

Cape Town its good but when other cities extract his projects it is going to remain behind.

Cape Town has not extracted any new projects yet.

Also Russia never did a few summer Olympic Games it was the U.S.S.R

South Africa isn't qualified

What do you mean? With all our event hosting experience, bidding experience, and the head of the IOC literally asking our President to let us bid, I think we're more than qualified :lol:

Cape Town has not extracted any new projects yet.

But other cities are going to stand out much more

That's your opinion, and that's fine. I think Cape Town stands out just fine along with Rio, Vancouver ...as some of the most beautiful cities on earth.

I'd agree, CT can compete among the best on earth in terms of setting and scenery. So can one of its main potential rivals Istanbul though however.