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Stan July 14th, 2007, 01:24 PM This may be abit early and dependant on who gets 2016 games, but I see no harm done in some discussion on possible host cities for 2020 Olympics.
So far we have:
KUALA LUMPUR Malasya
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=173342
SAINT PETERSBURG Russian Federation
http://www.russiatoday.ru/sports/news/10497
http://www.russiatoday.ru/news/news/10497/video
CAPE TOWN South Africa
Mo Rush July 14th, 2007, 02:45 PM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Rio
2020 Cape Town
2024 Paris
Stan July 14th, 2007, 03:37 PM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Chicago
2020 Saint Petersburg
2024 Cape Town
Fixed :cheers:
zo_noor July 14th, 2007, 04:49 PM Dubai, better Bid for Summer Olympics for 2020
mateunio July 14th, 2007, 04:57 PM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Chicago
2020 WARSAW
2024 PRAGUE / BUDAPEST
www.sercan.de July 14th, 2007, 06:52 PM Istanbul 20xy :D
ricu__ July 14th, 2007, 06:59 PM Rome is a candidate city for 2020 summer olympics (this is official)
CarlosBlueDragon July 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Chicago
2020 WARSAW
2024 PRAGUE / BUDAPEST
WARSAW ?? what country??
CarlosBlueDragon July 14th, 2007, 07:33 PM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Rio
2020 Brussels
:D
Tony Resta July 14th, 2007, 07:36 PM The London skyline will be perfect just in time for 2012.
b13 July 14th, 2007, 08:28 PM acutally Toronto might bid for 2020 if Chicago looses 2016. So TORONTO 2020!
pompeyfan July 15th, 2007, 03:46 AM WARSAW ?? what country??
Poland. Warsaw is the capital of Poland.
Anyway, i think Dubai should bid. They would definitely have the infastructure, and the ability.
Zaki July 15th, 2007, 04:14 AM If Chicago doesn't get 2016, Toronto 2020 book it.
Alexandre SP July 15th, 2007, 05:07 AM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Dubai
2020 Saint. Petersburg
2024 São Paulo
b13 July 15th, 2007, 05:27 AM If Chicago doesn't get 2016, Toronto 2020 book it.
agreed! I can certainly say that yes Chicago is an amazing city and a beautiful one I might add but their bid is just not "special" It just feels so temporary and I don't think the IOC will want that. Honestly the only way I see Chicago winning 2016 is if the IOC feels obligated to give the US an Olympics because of all the revenue the generate for them. But I think either Tokyo or Rio will win and maybe just maybe Dubai if the bid (you never know). But Toronto deserves to win 2020 we give so much to the rest of the world by letting immigrates in and letting them have a quality of life not matched by most of the world! So I think Toronto deserves the World to support them in 2020! Toronto is truly a city unlike any other and I can tell you for sure that if we win the 2020 olympics it will be like no other. People around the world will see a city that accepts any race of people and a city that works together, a safe city, a clean city, and an imaginative city. Toronto will be ready for 2020. Right now Toronto is trying to re-brand it's self because it is a very young city but became a big city in such a quick time that right now the city is trying to make sure we start acting like a big city and do big city things. Huge projects are underway in toronto and more are to come. All I have to say is T.O 2020 it just sound so right!
pacific_mzt July 15th, 2007, 05:42 AM and Toronto will win the 2020 olympic games because Monterrey will win the 2016 olympics games!:cheers: :banana:
b13 July 16th, 2007, 05:51 AM ^ That's the spirit!!!! T.O 2020
Westsidelife July 16th, 2007, 05:58 AM If Chicago doesn't get the 2016 Olympics, Los Angeles will bid again.
It would be awesome if Los Angeles got the 2032 Olympics, which would be exactly 100 years after the 1932 Games.
b13 July 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM LA has had the Olympics before let other cities have the chance to host them!
Arkdriver July 16th, 2007, 05:53 PM if present useless prime minister of malaysia stay, malaysia will have little chance to win because of lack of government support bid. ASIAD 2010 should go to Malaysia but the useless prick cancel it to channel the ASIAD money to help more poor people in the rural area...
Cruise July 16th, 2007, 06:00 PM i nominate baghdad
Westsidelife July 17th, 2007, 04:55 AM LA has had the Olympics before let other cities have the chance to host them!
One might say the exact same thing for London.
nomarandlee July 17th, 2007, 05:04 AM [QUOTE=b13;14274874]agreed! But I think either Tokyo or Rio will win and maybe just maybe Dubai if the bid (you never know).
I know, they will not.
But Toronto deserves to win 2020 we give so much to the rest of the world by letting immigrates in and letting them have a quality of life not matched by most of the world! So
Man that is condescendingly arrogant. The IOC owes you an Olympics because you take in immigrants which you also benefit from? Do you like having immigrants in your city or do you like having immigrants for the sake of telling others how it proves by by association how your tolerant and enlightened you are?
Great, you let not Brit and French and some brown people into your city, have a beer as congratulations.:cheers:
b13 July 17th, 2007, 06:33 PM ^ actually I never said "owe" I said deserves and I think may fourmers on this forum would agree with me. I think you should be proud of a city like Toronto who is doing things that many other cities are not doing. Instead of being rude and insulting me and my city I think you should take a look at what Toronto stands for its not for bragging rights its for letting people in this world having a quality of life that they deserve. I don't know if you knew the slogan for Toronto's 2008 bid but it was"Expect the World" and if you come to Toronto that is exactly what you should expect!
Gomoso July 17th, 2007, 07:08 PM Guadalajara 2020 Mexico will try to make a run as well!
Benn July 17th, 2007, 07:38 PM ^ actually I never said "owe" I said deserves and I think may fourmers on this forum would agree with me. I think you should be proud of a city like Toronto who is doing things that many other cities are not doing. Instead of being rude and insulting me and my city I think you should take a look at what Toronto stands for its not for bragging rights its for letting people in this world having a quality of life that they deserve. I don't know if you knew the slogan for Toronto's 2008 bid but it was"Expect the World" and if you come to Toronto that is exactly what you should expect!
I certainly know what you mean, but you did come off as self righteous and arrogant in that post, just read your post through once before posting.
b13 July 17th, 2007, 10:54 PM ^ I am sorry if I came across ad being arrogant please forgive me. All I really want is for Toronto to host the olympics! We came very close both times we bid in 1996 and 2008, but I truly believe 2020 will be our time.
chosebus July 17th, 2007, 11:46 PM after 2007 America Cup...
Caracas 20/20
Ari Gold July 18th, 2007, 02:17 PM ^ I am sorry if I came across ad being arrogant please forgive me. All I really want is for Toronto to host the olympics! We came very close both times we bid in 1996 and 2008, but I truly believe 2020 will be our time.
But arent you getting one in 2010 as well? 'You' as in, Canada.
2 olympics within a decade, in the same country is rather much dont you think?
coth July 18th, 2007, 02:35 PM I'm sure 2016 will be Tokyo, while 2020 will be in South or Central America. Rio is good candidature. Anyway, I hope next 3 olympic games in America will be in South or Central america.
eMKay July 18th, 2007, 02:43 PM If Chicago doesn't get 2016, Toronto 2020 book it.
2nd. I hope Chicago get it, but I'm only 90 miles away from Toronto, and will attend at least one event a day.
Skyprince July 18th, 2007, 03:05 PM Zagreb will be very nice :)
Skyprince July 18th, 2007, 03:06 PM if present useless prime minister of malaysia stay, malaysia will have little chance to win because of lack of government support bid. ASIAD 2010 should go to Malaysia but the useless prick cancel it to channel the ASIAD money to help more poor people in the rural area...
Please mind ur words :ohno:
For me, Abdullah is an excellent Prime Minister for Malaysia (maybe much better than Mahathir)
b13 July 18th, 2007, 06:09 PM But arent you getting one in 2010 as well? 'You' as in, Canada.
2 olympics within a decade, in the same country is rather much dont you think?
Well the reason why I want Toronto to get 2020 is because Canada has been always known for Winter Olympics and in this country it is Winter Althletes that get better facilities to practise etc. If Toronto were to win the SOG in 2020 our Summer Olympic Athletes would have the needed facilities to be able to compete on the world stage. Also it would help Toronto get more funding from upper levels of government who take BILLIONS of dollars from Toronto and use it on people all over this country while we are cash strapped and left to fend for ourselves!
Mesh22 July 18th, 2007, 07:47 PM agreed! I can certainly say that yes Chicago is an amazing city and a beautiful one I might add but their bid is just not "special" It just feels so temporary and I don't think the IOC will want that. Honestly the only way I see Chicago winning 2016 is if the IOC feels obligated to give the US an Olympics because of all the revenue the generate for them. But I think either Tokyo or Rio will win and maybe just maybe Dubai if the bid (you never know). But Toronto deserves to win 2020 we give so much to the rest of the world by letting immigrates in and letting them have a quality of life not matched by most of the world! So I think Toronto deserves the World to support them in 2020! Toronto is truly a city unlike any other and I can tell you for sure that if we win the 2020 olympics it will be like no other. People around the world will see a city that accepts any race of people and a city that works together, a safe city, a clean city, and an imaginative city. Toronto will be ready for 2020. Right now Toronto is trying to re-brand it's self because it is a very young city but became a big city in such a quick time that right now the city is trying to make sure we start acting like a big city and do big city things. Huge projects are underway in toronto and more are to come. All I have to say is T.O 2020 it just sound so right!
It was exactly that full headed attitude from the 2008 bid crew that is believed to have cost TO the 2008 Olympics. Torontonians thought the World owed them something? What exactly. I know Toronto is an amazing, awesome city, and could do very well at hosting the Games, however, it will be a long time, at least well after 2036. Canada has had its fair share of the Olympics (Three, 76, 88, 10) in 34 years. Vancouver 2010 has not even happend yet, be supportive of that!!
Mesh22 July 18th, 2007, 07:51 PM Well the reason why I want Toronto to get 2020 is because Canada has been always known for Winter Olympics and in this country it is Winter Althletes that get better facilities to practise etc. If Toronto were to win the SOG in 2020 our Summer Olympic Athletes would have the needed facilities to be able to compete on the world stage. Also it would help Toronto get more funding from upper levels of government who take BILLIONS of dollars from Toronto and use it on people all over this country while we are cash strapped and left to fend for ourselves!
So your point is the Games "should" be in Toronto to solely benefit Canadas summer athletes?
Abit self indulgent dont you think, Lausanne wouldent buy it.
If people are so worried about the performance of the Summer team, why not fund them through sporting institutes, as opposed to the having the Games. Having venues doesnt mean increased performance.
Gherkin July 19th, 2007, 12:25 AM 2016 Chicago (brilliant bid!)
2020 Cape Town (depending how successful the World Cup in 2010 is)
Ekumenopolis July 19th, 2007, 12:39 AM Power Cable (Nebraska) 2020!!!
samsonyuen July 19th, 2007, 01:25 AM It'd be nice to have games in Toronto, Cape Town, Buenos Aires.
samsonyuen July 19th, 2007, 01:32 AM It'd be nice to have games in Toronto, Cape Town, Buenos Aires.
infernal July 22nd, 2007, 10:33 PM I hope It's African
my vote would be Cairo
Rhoy July 22nd, 2007, 10:41 PM I dream of Milan!
city_thing July 25th, 2007, 05:06 AM I don't think Milan will get them, seeing as the games will have recently been in London (and Turin before that) -I think Caro would be a nice place to hold them, certainly if Egypt cleaned up its human rights record. Buenos Aires is still my first choice.
mjbu July 25th, 2007, 05:26 AM I'm sure 2016 will be Tokyo, while 2020 will be in South or Central America. Rio is good candidature. Anyway, I hope next 3 olympic games in America will be in South or Central america.
yeah me too, I wish the olympic where in Central America in 2020, it's about time for this region to host something important. my country (El Salvador) is a well developed country in the region alone with Panama. lets see what happen :banana: :banana:
DennisRodman97 July 25th, 2007, 05:53 AM Its gonna be Cape Town South Africa if the 2010 world cup is very successful. IOC president recently visited South Africa and said the country will be perfect for an olympic game.
DennisRodman97 July 25th, 2007, 05:56 AM Cape Town, South Africa
Cape Town, South Africa, which was eliminated during the fourth round of the 2004 Olympic race, may also bid for the 2020 Olympics. [2]
Prominent IOC members including Dick Pound have suggested that the organization should give the Games to an African nation.[3] Infrastructural deficiencies have been a liability against such measures.[citation needed] This is supported by a comment made by IOC President Rogge concerning the Cape Town bid for the 2004 Olympics (which went to Athens, Greece). Rogge said that he wanted to give the games to Cape Town, and told them to keep trying.[citation needed]. The Cape Chamber of Commerce has indicated that Cape Town intends to bid for the 2020 Games.
nomarandlee July 25th, 2007, 06:09 AM If Rio doesn't get it in '16 then I would like it to go to Rio in '20 or Cape Town.
Occit July 25th, 2007, 06:17 AM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Rio
2020 Cape Town
2024 Caracas
Red85 July 25th, 2007, 08:35 PM 2028 Amsterdam
;)
isaidso July 26th, 2007, 09:36 AM 1996: lost to Atlanta
2008: lost to Beijing
2020: TORONTO PLEASE!
city_thing July 26th, 2007, 04:38 PM 1996: lost to Atlanta
2008: lost to Beijing
2020: TORONTO PLEASE!
Weren't you guys up against Sydney for 2000 as well? Beijing lost to Sydney, so don't feel too bad...
isaidso July 26th, 2007, 10:44 PM No, Toronto didn't bid in 2000. Looks like Chicago is the front runner for 2016. If they win in 2016, I guarantee that the IOC won't go back to North America 4 years later. Toronto will not bid in 2020 if Chicago wins in 2016.
CarlosBlueDragon July 27th, 2007, 09:06 PM No, Toronto didn't bid in 2000. Looks like Chicago is the front runner for 2016. If they win in 2016, I guarantee that the IOC won't go back to North America 4 years later. Toronto will not bid in 2020 if Chicago wins in 2016.
I think ok i want vote Toronto but i think .... dubai will win as very soon maybe!!
Qatar Son 333 July 30th, 2007, 02:46 PM Doha is Bidding for 2020 :D
Herr Lind July 30th, 2007, 02:52 PM Mwahahahah , so banal candidates :lol:
Why not Belgrade? Why not Kyiv? Why just West-Europe and USA??? Idiotic tendency.
Mesh22 July 31st, 2007, 12:08 PM Mwahahahah , so banal candidates :lol:
Why not Belgrade? Why not Kyiv? Why just West-Europe and USA??? Idiotic tendency.
IM a huge fan of eastern europe, but does Kiev and Belgrade (more so) really have what it takes to pull off a summer olympics right now??
The IOC is interested in eastern europe, they would not have awarded the 2014 Winter Olympics to Sochi, Russia if they were not...
Herr Lind July 31st, 2007, 02:51 PM IM a huge fan of eastern europe, but does Kiev and Belgrade (more so) really have what it takes to pull off a summer olympics right now??
Why not?
The IOC is interested in eastern europe, they would not have awarded the 2014 Winter Olympics to Sochi, Russia if they were not...
But next olympics will be in USA or Europe again!
Zaki July 31st, 2007, 05:48 PM No, Toronto didn't bid in 2000. Looks like Chicago is the front runner for 2016. If they win in 2016, I guarantee that the IOC won't go back to North America 4 years later. Toronto will not bid in 2020 if Chicago wins in 2016.
I am hoping Rio takes 2016, it will be nice to have it in a Latin American country anyways. And then Toronto can take 2020 :D. I don't know how we lost to Atlanta but Beijing would have kicked any cities ass so we were just unlucky.
Canadian74 August 1st, 2007, 01:25 AM 2020 Toronto, please!
nomarandlee August 1st, 2007, 05:21 AM I am hoping Rio takes 2016, it will be nice to have it in a Latin American country anyways. And then Toronto can take 2020 :D. I don't know how we lost to Atlanta but Beijing would have kicked any cities ass so we were just unlucky.
Not to diss Atlanta but I don't think many Americans know how that happened either. Its a nice city and all and has its positives but there are at least a half dozen other NA cities that are showcase worthy then Atlanta.
Toronto will eventually get one. Its just a case of how long, maybe it will be soon or maybe decades but it is inevitable I think. Australia has had two cities host and Canada certainly parallels Australia in many ways plus its in the coveted Eastern time zone market.
For me in regard to Chicago there is a bit of a feeling of now or never since although it will come back to the U.S. soon at some point it could have to face tough domestic competition for the right to host from cities like S.F. or NYC. in future bids.
Zaki August 1st, 2007, 06:04 AM Not to diss Atlanta but I don't think many Americans know how that happened either. Its a nice city and all and has its positives but there are at least a half dozen other NA cities that are showcase worthy then Atlanta.
Toronto will eventually get one. Its just a case of how long, maybe it will be soon or maybe decades but it is inevitable I think. Australia has had two cities host and Canada certainly parallels Australia in many ways plus its in the coveted Eastern time zone market.
For me in regard to Chicago there is a bit of a feeling of now or never since although it will come back to the U.S. soon at some point it could have to face tough domestic competition for the right to host from cities like S.F. or NYC.
Toronto has the same feeling as Chicago. With so many great cities rising in Asia and other parts of the world, competition for the olympics is higher than ever. Whichever ever of the two North American cities get it, either will be the last one to get the summer olympics in North America for many years to come. Hopefully Toronto doesn't have to wait that long though I still wish Chicago all the best.
Mesh22 August 1st, 2007, 12:07 PM Not to diss Atlanta but I don't think many Americans know how that happened either. Its a nice city and all and has its positives but there are at least a half dozen other NA cities that are showcase worthy then Atlanta.
Toronto will eventually get one. Its just a case of how long, maybe it will be soon or maybe decades but it is inevitable I think. Australia has had two cities host and Canada certainly parallels Australia in many ways plus its in the coveted Eastern time zone market.
For me in regard to Chicago there is a bit of a feeling of now or never since although it will come back to the U.S. soon at some point it could have to face tough domestic competition for the right to host from cities like S.F. or NYC. in future bids.
The point is the IOC does not consider ANY difference between summer and winter, point being its the OLYMPICS.
You point out Australia has hosted twice. Yes, but Canada has hosted three times by 2010. I still maintain it will be well after 2032 before Toronto gets its turn (even though im certain its capable of doing a better job than some other cities that could be elected before then.
Mesh22 August 1st, 2007, 12:10 PM there is a slight pattern going on in the recent decade....
Rome, Italy bids unsuccessfully for 2004 Olympics, and Turin, Italy wins 2006 Winter Olympics two years later...
Toronto, Canada bids unsuccessfully for 2008 Olympics, and Vancouver, Canada wins 2010 Winter Olympics two years later...
Moscow, Russia bids unsuccessfully for 2012 Olympics, and Sochi, Russia wins 2014 Winter Olympics this year...
Kinda pointless i pointed that out but interesting though... :nuts:
nomarandlee August 1st, 2007, 03:52 PM I disagree that the difference between summer/winter doesn't matter. Even though I love the winter games they are seen somewhat more as a consolation prize to have the Olympics in markets that the IOC would like to have them. It also is a way to put the games in countries that otherwise questionable have the cities to host a summer games (not so much the case in Canada).
_isaacnewton_ August 1st, 2007, 06:21 PM It's time to Latin America have its chance to host a major important event like the Olympics.. everyone knows the improvements that were made since the 90's and countries like Brazil, Chile, Argentina or Mexico might impress the world with the tecnology and developments they are getting.
Anyway, I hope Rio hosts 2016 and 2020 must be held anywhere but in Europe. They got all major events lately. IOC gotta spread the olympic spirit everywhere, specially in non-developed countries. Maybe Cape Town, Cairo or Dubai would be great hosts.
Imagine an Olympics in Dubai? If they make a show everyday with their impressive buildings and crazy projects, what would they do for olympics? An Olympic Stadium underwater? On an island? I heard that they´re bidding to winter games! Oh gosh... improbable but surprising..
CarlosBlueDragon August 1st, 2007, 06:51 PM hope 2020 Shanghai!! :D
Mo Rush August 1st, 2007, 10:12 PM If Rio doesn't get it in '16 then I would like it to go to Rio in '20 or Cape Town.
While I'd like Rio to win in 2016. If Chicago wins, the 2010 FIFA World Cup, if successful, will have more pull with IOC members if Cape Town and Rio go head to head.
Also remember 2013 will be one year before the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. Rio might actually have to wait for 2024.
AVassilios August 1st, 2007, 10:23 PM hmm, i'm a young greek and i hope athens will get the games back in the 2032, 2036 or 2040 again!! they organised it as goog as never before, it was really sucessful! and you have to know that one year before the games started nothing was ready for it! in one years they built all these wonderful stadiums...but like you all said some cities of amercia are good candidats for 2016 and 2020
AVassilios
b13 August 2nd, 2007, 11:58 PM Toronto 2020
guigotz August 12th, 2007, 11:51 PM Doha is Bidding for 2020 :D
ha-ha-ha-ha! OSAMA is BIDDING TOO
HIAUEh forget ittt
QATAR or UAE dont have olympic TEAM! and the CLIMATE???
imagine ...… Russian… Swedish competing…
The only Arab country that I see capable is Turkey!
3 athletes HAUIEHUIAHE It will be funny!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dAUzmQHhUx4&mode=related&search= ( put in 4min in the video) BEFORE USA!
Joop20 August 13th, 2007, 08:45 AM [QUOTE=guigotz;14762031]ha-ha-ha-ha! OSAMA is BIDDING TOO
HIAUEh forget ittt
QATAR or UAE dont have olympic TEAM! and the CLIMATE???
imagine ...… Russian… Swedish competing…
The only Arab country that I see capable is Turkey!
3 athletes HAUIEHUIAHE It will be funny!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dAUzmQHhUx4&mode=related&search= ( put in 4min in the video) BEFORE USA![/QUOTE
You may be surprised, I think the chance is very real that Dubai will host one of the next olympics! I don't think the IOC really cares whether the olympic team of the UAE is succesfull or not. When Dubai comes up with an amazing bid, they sure got a chance. And for your information, Turkey isn't an Arab country.
benek_gda August 13th, 2007, 09:56 PM I think that these olimpic games should be finally given to Eastern Europe. EE countries develop very fast and are very opened for lots of investments. For me it would be 3 cities: Budapest, Prague and Warsaw. EE really need this.:cheers:
guigotz August 13th, 2007, 10:05 PM [QUOTE=guigotz;14762031]ha-ha-ha-ha! OSAMA is BIDDING TOO
HIAUEh forget ittt
QATAR or UAE dont have olympic TEAM! and the CLIMATE???
imagine ...… Russian… Swedish competing…
The only Arab country that I see capable is Turkey!
3 athletes HAUIEHUIAHE It will be funny!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dAUzmQHhUx4&mode=related&search= ( put in 4min in the video) BEFORE USA![/QUOTE
You may be surprised, I think the chance is very real that Dubai will host one of the next olympics! I don't think the IOC really cares whether the olympic team of the UAE is succesfull or not. When Dubai comes up with an amazing bid, they sure got a chance. And for your information, Turkey isn't an Arab country.
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Of course they caree if u looking for in the internet u will see the a olympic report.... All the cities need to dothis report for become an olympic city soon...
And the climate is one topic in this avaliationn!!! Im telling u the truth !!
Imagine the temperature ..... more than 40!!! A swendish guy for exemple is not capable ... canadians ... it will be a influence factor in the competicions !
Not only me but the majority people what more it enchants is the vibration of the public and I find that I would be half difficult with 3 athletes and mainly for a COUNTRY whom never a gold medal conquered.
Turkey = 99% Muslims ... In the other hand, is arab country! And they are not european :cheers: Only the party next to Greece and Bulgaria!
and is next to iran ... blah blahhhh !!!!
Shanghai City August 14th, 2007, 04:58 PM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Chicago
2020 KL
2024 Berlin
nomarandlee August 14th, 2007, 06:20 PM I think that these olimpic games should be finally given to Eastern Europe. EE countries develop very fast and are very opened for lots of investments. For me it would be 3 cities: Budapest, Prague and Warsaw. EE really need this.:cheers:
I agree with that. EE should be in the unofficial rotation sometime soon but we will see. Even though Prague and Budapest are great cities the countries may be considered a bit too small of to host. If and when it goes to the EE I am thinking it will go to Warsaw.
^Anton^ August 14th, 2007, 08:39 PM @guigotz: Since when Turkey is an Arab country? So... Albanians are Arabs too, because they're Muslim? and Indonesians, are they Arabs too because of their religion?
^Anton^ August 14th, 2007, 08:40 PM I agree with that. EE should be in the unofficial rotation sometime soon but we will see. Even though Prague and Budapest are great cities the countries may be considered a bit too small of to host. If and when it goes to the EE I am thinking it will go to Warsaw.
To Warsaw? I can foresee the Polish police performing raids in the Olympic Village hunting for gay athlets... Tinky Winky is only the first step! :lol:
qwazy August 15th, 2007, 12:58 AM ha-ha-ha-ha! OSAMA is BIDDING TOO
HIAUEh forget ittt
QATAR or UAE dont have olympic TEAM! and the CLIMATE???
imagine ...… Russian… Swedish competing…
The only Arab country that I see capable is Turkey!
3 athletes HAUIEHUIAHE It will be funny!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dAUzmQHhUx4&mode=related&search= ( put in 4min in the video) BEFORE USA!
wats osama gotta do with qatar or UAE. you're ignorance surprises me
and yea. like anton said. turkey may not be european, but it certainly isnt arab. infact, most muslims are non-arabs
and the timing can be changed so it takes place in better weather. thats not a big prob
city_thing August 15th, 2007, 03:04 AM To Warsaw? I can foresee the Polish police performing raids in the Olympic Village hunting for gay athlets... Tinky Winky is only the first step! :lol:
Heh. Aren't the prime minister and president of Poland identical brothers? And don't they always ask their mother for advice on how to run the country?
Poor Tinky Winky... all he wanted to do was parade down the street in hot pants, high on ecstasy, and waving his rainbow flag...
But some homophobic old woman that's running the country via proxy decided that was wrong.
benek_gda August 15th, 2007, 10:08 AM Heh. Aren't the prime minister and president of Poland identical brothers? And don't they always ask their mother for advice on how to run the country?
Poor Tinky Winky... all he wanted to do was parade down the street in hot pants, high on ecstasy, and waving his rainbow flag...
But some homophobic old woman that's running the country via proxy decided that was wrong.
Yeah...and that's all people think about Poland. It's funny thing with tinky winky because actually it was created by media - but how do people from Australia can know it?:)
But, i don't understand what does it have in common with the Olimpics. It's not the thread 'for what don't you like Poland' :lol:
nazrey August 15th, 2007, 10:16 AM @guigotz: Since when Turkey is an Arab country? So... Albanians are Arabs too, because they're Muslim? and Indonesians, are they Arabs too because of their religion?
No they are not!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=254729&page=18
Velkan August 16th, 2007, 01:41 AM Budapest seems like a nice place to host the 2020 olympics
city_thing August 16th, 2007, 02:07 AM No they are not!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=254729&page=18
I don't think you understood Anton's original comment.
nazrey August 16th, 2007, 06:15 AM Why?
guigotz August 16th, 2007, 11:19 PM Okkk ... but im certain the UAE wont realize ... thats enough!
America going to Host .... Its probable Buenos Aires.
guigotz August 16th, 2007, 11:22 PM Ok their economy crashed in 2001...
But turn On the television .... e analyzes the American situation Nowadays….
Bluesence August 17th, 2007, 01:11 AM Portugal! :cheer: :nocrook:
KevinCT August 23rd, 2007, 02:46 AM So many Olympics in UE, let other countries to host them!!
Steven77571 August 31st, 2007, 03:31 PM I would like to see the Summer games in Texas during my lifetime because it will prove to the world that my state is not a bunch of cowboys living on a ranch.
^Anton^ August 31st, 2007, 04:16 PM Heh. Aren't the prime minister and president of Poland identical brothers? And don't they always ask their mother for advice on how to run the country?.
That must be when they don't ask Jesus :lol:
ivan_1984 August 31st, 2007, 09:08 PM Possible candidates:
Africa:
Cape Town (South Africa)
El Cairo (Egypt)
América:
Buenos Aires (Argentina)
Monterrey (Mexico)
Mexico DF (México)
Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)
Cartagena de Indias (Colombia)
Santiago (Chile)
Asia:
Busan (South Korea)
New Delhi (India)
Europe:
Budapest (Hungary)
Paris (France)
Prague (Czech Republic)
Rome (Italy)
Saint Petersburg (Russia)
Valencia (Spain)
USA:
Denver
Detroit
Minneapolis.
Oceania
Brisbane (Australia)
Auckland (New Zealand)
LMCA1990 August 31st, 2007, 09:20 PM I hope a Latin American city gets it.
johncreasy September 2nd, 2007, 11:33 PM If 2016 Chicago are received it for Brazil 2020 would become very difficult. Japan, Auatralien have there better chances. For European countries I see also smaller chances to 2012 play there in London instead of to find. Dubai would be also a possibility if Dubai of sport town center is built. South Africa is surely observed by football WM 2010. After mine it would list would in such a way look.
2008: Beijing
2012: London
2016: Chicago
2020: Brisban
2024: Dubai
2028: Paris/Madrid
2032: Tokyo
MADLY IF 2 COUNTRIES THE PLAYS DELIVERING KNEW MARK THEREBY ALSO SMALL COUNTRIES THE LARGEST EVENT DELIVERING ABILITY.:banana:
RobH September 3rd, 2007, 09:52 AM 2016 Chicago
2020 Cape Town
is what I'd like to see.
ivan_1984 September 3rd, 2007, 11:45 PM Next Olimpics Games:
Beijing 2008, London 2012, Río de Janeiro 2016, Madrid, Valencia or Paris 2020.:)
BobDaBuilder September 4th, 2007, 02:16 AM It should go to either an African or Latin American city. But it won't because the IOC is run by a bunch of greedy fuckers.
Wezza September 4th, 2007, 12:48 PM Russia is hosting the winter olympics after Vancouver, i don't know if they'd get the summer games so soon after?
city_thing September 4th, 2007, 02:09 PM Valencia would be a good city, would love to see some of the architecture they'd supply. Would Madrid let Valencia have them though? Isn't Madrid quite determined to hold them?
danVan September 5th, 2007, 04:37 AM 2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Rio
2020 Honolulu
I would love to see Olympics in Hawaii
-Corey- September 5th, 2007, 08:36 AM 2008 - Beijing
2012 - London
2016 - Chicago
2020 - Buenos Aires
:D
Mo Rush September 5th, 2007, 08:43 AM 2020 host: see today's SSC banner
-Corey- September 5th, 2007, 08:52 AM Medellin?? ^^
Gaeus September 5th, 2007, 01:42 PM 2016 - Chicago / Paris / Moscow / Hong Kong
2020 - New York (If Chicago will not get it) / Shanghai (if Hong Kong will not get it), St. Petersburg (If Moscow will not get it) / Busan, Dubai, Warsaw
2024 - Berlin / Milan / Miami (if Chicago will not get it) / Sao Paulo / Guangzhou (if Shanghai will not get it) / Mumbai
onetwothree September 5th, 2007, 07:45 PM 2016 - Chicago
2020 - Copenhagen (Buenos Aires alternatively)
2024 - Copenhagen if we didn't get it in 2020 XD
Lydon September 8th, 2007, 06:48 PM 2020: Cape Town!
masterpaul September 8th, 2007, 07:39 PM 2024: Thesaloniki
CarlosBlueDragon September 10th, 2007, 04:09 PM 2020....No earth winner!! Mars 2020!! :D :D
MasonicStage™ September 10th, 2007, 04:26 PM 2020....No earth winner!! Mars 2020!! :D :D
:lol:
DesfronteR September 10th, 2007, 07:29 PM 2016-MONTERREY
2020-MADRID
2024-TOKIO
2028-CAPE TOWN
2032-MELBOURNE
2036-RIO
2040-DUBAI
Mo Rush September 10th, 2007, 08:32 PM TOKIO 2016
CAPE TOWN 2020
MELBOURNE 2024
RIO 2028
Durbsboi September 11th, 2007, 01:01 PM DURBAN 2020
http://www.fussballtempel.net/caf/RSA/Durban_new_A.jpg
MasonicStage™ September 11th, 2007, 01:48 PM ^^ beautiful stadium! :okay:
guigotz September 15th, 2007, 10:58 PM 2020.... or africa or east europe ;)
johncreasy September 16th, 2007, 12:28 AM 2020.... or africa or east europe ;)
Africa
Cape Town, South Africa
After being eliminated during the fourth round of the 2004 Olympic race, Cape Town may also bid for the 2020 Olympics.[1] Prominent IOC members including Dick Pound have suggested that the organization should give the Games to an African nation.[2] Infrastructural deficiencies have been a liability against such measures.[citation needed] This is supported by a comment made by IOC President Jacques Rogge concerning the Cape Town bid for the 2004 Olympics, which were awarded to Athens). Rogge said that he wanted to give the games to Cape Town, and told them to keep trying.[citation needed]. The Cape Chamber of Commerce has indicated that Cape Town intends to bid for the 2020 Games. The 2010 FIFA World Cup could work in Capetown's advantage.
Asia
Busan, Republic of Korea
With the success of the 2002 Asian Games held in Busan, the city's mayor announced on November 14, 2005 to the Korean news agency Yonhap that they were planning to bid for the 2020 Olympic games. The official bid was made during the 17th APEC forum held on November 18 and 19 in Busan. [3]
Delhi, India
Being very confident of holding a successful Commonwealth Games in 2010, the Indian Olympic Association (IOA) has confirmed that "Delhi will bid for the 2020 Olympics."[4] The IOA had decided to bid for the 2016 games but after a failed attempt to host the 2014 Asian Games it will now bid for the 2020 games, officials confirmed. Other international sporting events that will be held in India include the ICC Cricket World Cup 2011, the 4th World Military Games 2007 and the soon to be announced F1 Delhi Grand Prix in 2009/2010.
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Malaysia expects to be considered a developed nation by the year 2020, as expressed in Wawasan 2020. There is slight expectation from the public for the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur to host the Summer Olympics to mark Wawasan 2020.[5] Kuala Lumpur had decided to bid for the 2008 Games but it did not succeed in becoming a candidate on the shortlist.[6] The city however is capable of hosting large athletic competitions as Kuala Lumpur was the host city for the 1998 Commonwealth Games.
Taipei or Kaohsiung, Taiwan
In 2005, the Premier of the Republic of China, Frank Hsieh, decided and encouraged Taiwan to bid for the 2020 Olympics, yet the government has not decided whether Taipei or Kaohsiung will be bidding.[citation needed]
Europe
Copenhagen, Denmark
Copenhagen is considering to bid for Denmark's first Olympics. In a report by Rambøll Management it is said that Copenhagen will try to bid for the Olympics in 2020 because they concluded that it would be the most likely year that a European nation would win the bid.[7] Copenhagen already has excellent infrastructure and only little upgrades would be necessary. [8]
Denmark has created a group whose purpose is to attract big events to their nation, which would increase the possibility of getting the Olympics. Denmark may be attempting to hold the World Championship in table tennis in 2010, World Cycling Championship in 2011, European Football Championship (together with Sweden) in 2016 and European Championships in Athletics in 2018. [1]
Due to the fact that London is hosting the Olympics in 2012, the IOC may be reluctant in awarding the Games to another European country so soon.
Hamburg, Germany
The Hamburg sports league (HSB) issued a press release saying it will meet with the German Olympic sports league to present an application at a meeting in December 2007. [9] Although Berlin and Munich have also expressed interest, the HSB president claims his city is the most compact and has the best chance to host the Olympics. On the other hand, Germany is making exploratory plans for a Munich 2018 Winter Games bid, which may supersede a 2020 Summer games bid altogether.[10]
Lisbon, Portugal
Lisbon is considering a 2016 bid[11] after holding the 2004 UEFA European Football Championship. If the 2016 bid does not succeed, a bid for the 2020 Games will be put forth. An advantage for the 2020 Games would be the opening of Ota Airport in 2017.[12]
Other events held in Lisbon that will help the Portuguese bid are Expo '98, the 2000 Tennis Masters Cup, the 2001 IAAF World Indoor Championships, and the 2003 Handball World Championship.[13] The sporting infrastructure of Lisbon will be an advantage as the city will be hosting the upcoming 2009 Lusophony Games.
Prague, Czech Republic
Mayor of Prague, Pavel Bém, has organized a team to assess whether Prague could win a bid to host the 2020 Summer Olympic Games. Its estimated cost for preparations for an Olympic bid, including a proposal to connect the metro system to sports centres and to enlarge an airport, would be USD$9.1 billion. Also, most of the sport grounds must be built. More information www.olympic.cz or www.idnes.cz [14].
Rome, Italy
After losing its 2004 bid to Athens, Rome will attempt to present a stronger bid for the 2020 Olympics. Walter Veltroni, mayor of Rome, will be supporting a Rome 2020 bid. Following the win of Sochi for the 2014 Winter Olympics, an Italian bid has been confirmed from prospects of the Olympic Games returning to Europe again.[15]
St. Petersburg, Russia
Russia's second-largest city, St. Petersburg, is considering bidding for the 2020 Summer Olympics. City officials have confirmed that they are preparing to develop the city's infrastructure to strengthen their bid.[16] However, as Russia won the right to host the 2014 Winter Olympics, this may play a factor in the IOC's decision. The last time Russia hosted a Summer Games was the 1980 Summer Olympics, then part of the Soviet Union. A bid by St. Petersburg for the 2020 Games would be the first Summer Olympics for the nation as a post-Soviet Russian Federation.
North America
Monterrey, Mexico
Monterrey is considering a 2016 Summer Olympic bid, but Felipe Muñoz, President of the Mexican Olympic Committee, said that a bid for the 2020 Games was more feasible.[17]
Philadelphia, United States
There is also speculation that Philadelphia is interested in bidding for the 2020 games. Joseph M. Torsella, head of Philadelphia Sports Congress, has stated he is interested in hosting the 2020 or 2024 Olympic Games in an interview in the local Philadelphia Daily News. [18]
Toronto, Canada
On July 10, 2007 it was revealed that the Canadian Olympic Committee had begun work on a potential bid for the 2020 or 2024 games for Toronto, the capital of Ontario and largest city in Canada.[19] This would be Toronto's third bid for the summer Olympic games, after unsuccessful bids for the 1996 and 2008 games.
The success of a 2020 bid from Toronto depends on the circumstances of Chicago winning the 2016 Games, as the IOC is very reluctant in awarding the Olympic Games to the same continent consecutively and to another Great Lakes city.[20] If Chicago does not succeed in the 2016 bid, this would give Toronto a winning edge in bidding to be host of the XXXII Olympics. As well, Chicago's loss would mean that by 2020, it would have been 24 years since a summer Olympics were held in North America, the previous of which were the 1996 Games in Atlanta. It should also be noted that other nations that have yet to host an Olympic Games will be a factor for Toronto's potential 2020 bid. Canada had previously hosted the 1976 Summer Games in Montreal.
Oceania
Brisbane, Australia
The subtropical city of Brisbane would seriously consider bidding for the Olympic Games in 2020 or 2024[21], Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has said. His announcement came after IOC President Jacques Rogge said the IOC would love to see a bid from Brisbane in the future. Nonetheless, Olympic officials are urging Brisbane not to be too eager in pursuing the idea too soon[citation needed], because the 2000 Olympics were held in the New South Wales city of Sydney.
Australia had also previously hosted the 1956 Summer Games in Melbourne. In 1985, Brisbane failed to win the bid for the 1992 Summer Olympics, which were held in Barcelona. However, Brisbane has experience in hosting major international sporting events, having hosted the 1982 Commonwealth Games and the 2001 Goodwill Games.
(quelle Wikipedia)
cphdude September 17th, 2007, 08:41 PM Copenhagen, Denmark
Copenhagen is considering to bid for Denmark's first Olympics. In a report by Rambøll Management it is said that Copenhagen will try to bid for the Olympics in 2020 because they concluded that it would be the most likely year that a European nation would win the bid.[7] Copenhagen already has excellent infrastructure and only little upgrades would be necessary. [8]
Denmark has created a group whose purpose is to attract big events to their nation, which would increase the possibility of getting the Olympics. Denmark may be attempting to hold the World Championship in table tennis in 2010, World Cycling Championship in 2011, European Football Championship (together with Sweden) in 2016 and European Championships in Athletics in 2018. [1]
You can forget about that one. It is not going to happen...
Bahnsteig4 September 17th, 2007, 08:59 PM ^^ Sadly. I'd be rooting for Cape Town or any European city after Chicago 2016. ;)
Rome would probably not offer the best organized games ever, but still that city could offer one of the loveliest settings.
xXFallenXx September 17th, 2007, 09:14 PM whens the last time the Olympics have been in the US?
Bahnsteig4 September 17th, 2007, 09:40 PM 2002, SLC. Winter Olympics, though. Las Summer OGs were in 1996, ATL.
cphdude September 18th, 2007, 05:35 PM ^^ Sadly. I'd be rooting for Cape Town or any European city after Chicago 2016. ;)
Rome would probably not offer the best organized games ever, but still that city could offer one of the loveliest settings.
Rome might be good. Or berlin....
jiggawhat? September 23rd, 2007, 09:19 PM A seattle bid is in the talks if chicago loses. Though i highly belive chicago will win the 2016 olympic games.
www.sercan.de September 26th, 2007, 06:04 PM Istanbul will bid for 2020. Announced by the Nat. Olympic comitee
guigotz October 2nd, 2007, 07:57 PM Istanbul will bid for 2020. Announced by the Nat. Olympic comitee
Good luck it ll be awesome Istanbul 2020
www.sercan.de October 2nd, 2007, 08:07 PM Thanks.
2020 is great, because many current huge infrastrcuture projects like Marmaray or Metro etc will be finished
MALAYSIAN November 21st, 2007, 05:45 PM I think Malaysia also got chances to host 2020 Summer Olympic
MALAYSIAN November 21st, 2007, 05:46 PM Malaysia, Kuala Lumpur
MALAYSIAN November 21st, 2007, 05:47 PM Malaysia is one of the most developed country in the world.
RobH November 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM sorry, who should host the 2020 Olympics, I didn't quite catch that.
MALAYSIAN November 21st, 2007, 06:30 PM sorry, who should host the 2020 Olympics, I didn't quite catch that.
I dont understand what you mean:ohno:
MALAYSIAN November 21st, 2007, 06:37 PM sorry, who should host the 2020 Olympics, I didn't quite catch that.
Malaysia is better than other countries including United Kingdom, United States, Australia and other countries in Europe:bash:
Harmen1984 November 21st, 2007, 06:57 PM Dude...
Mo Rush November 21st, 2007, 07:03 PM Malaysia is better than other countries including United Kingdom, United States, Australia and other countries in Europe:bash:
two questions. Did KL make the IOC shortlist for the 2008 games? Did it make the IOC shortlist for the 2010 youth games?
gugasounds November 21st, 2007, 07:08 PM monterrey has no chance of making the summer olympics
Second City November 22nd, 2007, 10:26 PM Malaysia is better than other countries including United Kingdom, United States, Australia and other countries in Europe:bash:
Hahahaha.... okay buddy whatever you say! :lol::lol::lol:
When someone says Malaysia I think of
1) Zoolander ....hahaha
2) Those petronas towers.....
Lydon November 23rd, 2007, 01:42 PM Malaysia is better than other countries including United Kingdom, United States, Australia and other countries in Europe:bash:
And that's exactly why Cape Town should host it :lol:
Mesh22 November 23rd, 2007, 01:47 PM Malaysia is one of the most developed country in the world.
Having a great airport and two tall towers does not constitute the most developed country in the World. Why are Malaysian students escaping in droves to Australia for their education?
Malaysia is developing at a great pace and I wish it the best, but its just that; developing.
I don't think 2020 is Malaysia's time. Maybe 2028 or 2032.
www.sercan.de December 10th, 2007, 06:13 PM Major of Istanbul said yesterday that they plan to bid for the 2020 games.
Therefore they will going to invest more in the infrastructe
The Istanbul metro will have a lenght of 500km in the year 2023.
nazrey December 12th, 2007, 04:41 PM two questions.
1. Did KL make the IOC shortlist for the 2008 games?
2. Did it make the IOC shortlist for the 2010 youth games?
:)
1.Yes, they did
Olympic 2008 :
Bangkok
Beijing
Cairo
Havana
Istanbul
Kuala Lumpur
Osaka
Paris
Seville
Toronto
2.Yes they did
Youth Olympic Games 2010 :
Athens [GRE]
Bangkok [THA]
Debrcen [HUN]
Guatemala City [GUA]
Kuala Lumpur [MAS]
Moscow [RUS]
Poznan [POL]
Singapore [SIN]
Turin [ITA]
Mo Rush December 12th, 2007, 06:29 PM :)
1.Yes, they did
Olympic 2008 :
Bangkok
Beijing
Cairo
Havana
Istanbul
Kuala Lumpur
Osaka
Paris
Seville
Toronto
2.Yes they did
Youth Olympic Games 2010 :
Athens [GRE]
Bangkok [THA]
Debrcen [HUN]
Guatemala City [GUA]
Kuala Lumpur [MAS]
Moscow [RUS]
Poznan [POL]
Singapore [SIN]
Turin [ITA]
shortlist=cities that the IOC feels are technically capable of staging the olympic games. KL failed to shortlist for the youth games and the 2008 olympic games..you just listed applicant cities
AceN December 12th, 2007, 06:44 PM shortlist=cities that the IOC feels are technically capable of staging the olympic games. KL failed to shortlist for the youth games and the 2008 olympic games..you just listed applicant cities
KL might have been failed for 2008 Olympic Games, but IOC will change their mind when they see how Malaysia in 2020..emm, perhaps they will change their mind if they go to Malaysia rite now! :D
Mo Rush December 12th, 2007, 08:41 PM KL might have been failed for 2008 Olympic Games, but IOC will change their mind when they see how Malaysia in 2020..emm, perhaps they will change their mind if they go to Malaysia rite now! :D
I think Malaysia is a fantastic place esp. KL, I was simply replying to a comment that Malaysia was supposedly better than the UK and Australia and therefore it should host, even if its never made the IOC shortlist.
guigotz December 13th, 2007, 02:54 AM i love the sepang circuit :D
those petronas towers..... awesome!
But i dont think that malaysia have chances...
By the Way.... Keep Walking! .... Olympic Games have in 4 and 4 Years :)
Mesh22 December 13th, 2007, 04:17 AM Melbourne and Brisbane are likely Australian contenders for 2020/24. The 2006 Commonwealth Games were always regarded as a test, and soon after Bracks laid plans for a bid study after Beijing. I believe the AOC is also considering a IOC session application with the new Mel Convention Center- it was referenced anyway regarding the project. A similar feasability study is being undertaken in Queensland. Other cities (Perth, Adelaide and Sydney, obviously, are simply not options for the next Aust Olympics)
I suspect Melbourne could do a similar pitch to Madrid did with 2012 (20 years after Barcelona 1992 and Sydney 2000 in Australia's case)
I am certain if shortlisted (I doubt the IOC would overlook considering a Melbourne bid), we would be a frontrunner... we are one of the most capable cities in the World and Melbourne has lots of friends in Lausanne; however winning the bid is another story.
I am certain Australia will not wait another 44 years for its next Olympiad; and I'm pretty confident the third Australian Games will be a second Melbourne games.
jlshyang December 13th, 2007, 05:08 AM Having a great airport and two tall towers does not constitute the most developed country in the World. Why are Malaysian students escaping in droves to Australia for their education?
Malaysia is developing at a great pace and I wish it the best, but its just that; developing.
I don't think 2020 is Malaysia's time. Maybe 2028 or 2032.
Forgive my fellow countryman for being over optimistic in hosting the 2020 Olympics. Malaysia has got all the infrastructures in place but we have yet to become a strong sporting nation to host the Olympics. However, no one should doubt Malaysia's capabilities in hosting the Olympics in the near future, probably 2028 if the country continue to develop at an impressive rate.
After all, Malaysia, a developing country, hosted one of the best Commonwealth Games of the 20th century in 1998. They should aim to host the next Asian Games before even thinking about the Olympics.
Off topic, why are Malaysian students escaping in droves to study in Australia? There are quite a number of reasons to this : The higher education standards are better overseas while standards in Malaysian public universities deteriorate thanks to government policies. Besides, employers prefer graduates from foreign universities and it's been a trend for Malaysians to pursue their studies overseas since the 50s. Malaysian students use to be the largest group of foreign students in the U.K and Australia after the Chinese (from China) and Indians (India). I'm not sure if it's still the case now. Btw, i'm one of the Malaysian students in the U.K and the Malaysian students community here is big enough for us to organise the annual Nottingham Games (inter-university games among all Malaysian students in the U.K).
Anberlin December 13th, 2007, 05:39 AM Melbourne and Brisbane are likely Australian contenders for 2020/24. The 2006 Commonwealth Games were always regarded as a test, and soon after Bracks laid plans for a bid study after Beijing. I believe the AOC is also considering a IOC session application with the new Mel Convention Center- it was referenced anyway regarding the project. A similar feasability study is being undertaken in Queensland. Other cities (Perth, Adelaide and Sydney, obviously, are simply not options for the next Aust Olympics)
I suspect Melbourne could do a similar pitch to Madrid did with 2012 (20 years after Barcelona 1992 and Sydney 2000 in Australia's case)
I am certain if shortlisted (I doubt the IOC would overlook considering a Melbourne bid), we would be a frontrunner... we are one of the most capable cities in the World and Melbourne has lots of friends in Lausanne; however winning the bid is another story.
I am certain Australia will not wait another 44 years for its next Olympiad; and I'm pretty confident the third Australian Games will be a second Melbourne games.
I'm with you on a lot of that. Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world, and it would have a better chance than Brisbane. :)
Mesh22 December 13th, 2007, 05:43 AM I'm with you on a lot of that. Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world, and it would have a better chance than Brisbane. :)
I think the "World" is an overstatement, but we are extremely well equipped. We are up there with cities like Los Angeles, Paris and London, in that regard.
It's important to also note the 1956 Olympic Games are almost non-existant physically in Melbourne, but its spirit is very evident. Samaranch said he has always regarded Melbourne as the worlds "quinessential Olympic City" - it is sporty, multicultural, well equipped and arts orientated city.
The fact of the '56 Games will play into the bid slightly, be it negative or positive, but multiple games to one city is something the IOC is not afraid of doing. Nowadays its the most sustainable bid, wins. Melbourne can deliver that. As I said earlier, this does not guarantee Melbourne a win, or a right to. Just an observation.
nazrey December 13th, 2007, 08:13 AM Malaysia expects to be considered a developed nation by the year 2020, as expressed in Wawasan 2020. There is slight expectation from the public for the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur to host the Summer Olympics to mark Wawasan 2020. Kuala Lumpur had decided to bid for the 2008 Games but it did not succeed in becoming a candidate on the shortlist. The city had hosted several large athletic competitions such as the 1998 Commonwealth Games.
nazrey December 13th, 2007, 08:13 AM 2020 Summer Olympics
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics), the free encyclopedia
The 2020 Summer Olympics The International Olympic Committee has yet to begin the selection process for the host city; the site of the Games of the XXXII Olympiad—as they will be officially known—is expected to be announced in the summer of 2013.
Potential bids :
Cape Town, South Africa
Busan, Republic of Korea
Delhi, India
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Copenhagen, Denmark
Hamburg, Germany
Istanbul, Turkey
Lisbon, Portugal
Prague, Czech Republic
Rome, Italy
St. Petersburg, Russia
Boston, United States
Monterrey, Mexico
Philadelphia, United States
Toronto, Canada
New Orleans, United States
Brisbane, Australia
Melbourne, Australia
Joop20 December 13th, 2007, 10:34 AM I'm with you on a lot of that. Melbourne is the sporting capital of the world, and it would have a better chance than Brisbane. :)
The way South East Queensland is growing at the moment, with the Gold Coast and Brisbane, I wouldn't be suprised if it'd give Melbourne a serious run for its money for the 2020 games. And who knows where Perth may be in 10 years time, with the boom it's currently experiencing!
Mo Rush December 13th, 2007, 04:36 PM 2020 Summer Olympics
From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics), the free encyclopedia
The 2020 Summer Olympics The International Olympic Committee has yet to begin the selection process for the host city; the site of the Games of the XXXII Olympiad—as they will be officially known—is expected to be announced in the summer of 2013.
Potential bids :
Cape Town, South Africa
Busan, Republic of Korea
Delhi, India
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Copenhagen, Denmark
Hamburg, Germany
Istanbul, Turkey
Lisbon, Portugal
Prague, Czech Republic
Rome, Italy
St. Petersburg, Russia
Boston, United States
Monterrey, Mexico
Philadelphia, United States
Toronto, Canada
New Orleans, United States
Brisbane, Australia
Melbourne, Australia
We'll prob end up with a shorlist of
Cape Town, South Africa
Delhi, India OR Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Istanbul, Turkey
Rome, Italy
Melbourne, Australia
Mesh22 December 13th, 2007, 04:38 PM We'll prob end up with a shorlist of
Cape Town, South Africa
Delhi, India OR Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Istanbul, Turkey
Rome, Italy
Melbourne, Australia
I have to admit, MoRush, I would support my home town of Melbourne, but Cape Town would be sensational. I say no more, come 2013, I might hold a different opinion if things come to fruitian!
It would be awesome to see a southern hemisphere selection:
-Melbourne
-Cape Town
-Buenos Aeries
-Rio
-Tallinn (just to give the north some hope!)
game on! :D
www.sercan.de December 13th, 2007, 04:46 PM Today at the groundbrake of the new GS stadium, major of Istanbul and sports minister said t again.
We want to bid for the 2020 Olympic games
So my dream by building a new stadium and park closer to the city is over :(
nazrey December 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM We'll prob end up with a shorlist of >
Busan, Republic of Korea
Cape Town, South Africa
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Melbourne, Australia
St. Petersburg, Russia
Best in news heaven!..
Mo Rush December 13th, 2007, 05:01 PM We'll prob end up with a shorlist of >
Busan, Republic of Korea
Cape Town, South Africa
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Melbourne, Australia
St. Petersburg, Russia
Best in news heaven!..
Rome would get the nod ahead of Busan or St Peterburg and so would Istanbul.
Mo Rush December 13th, 2007, 05:02 PM I have to admit, MoRush, I would support my home town of Melbourne, but Cape Town would be sensational. I say no more, come 2013, I might hold a different opinion if things come to fruitian!
It would be awesome to see a southern hemisphere selection:
-Melbourne
-Cape Town
-Buenos Aeries
-Rio
-Tallinn (just to give the north some hope!)
game on! :D
Well of course Id like Cape Town to win, but Melbourne could quite possibly top the technical evaluation, so there def aren't any problems for Melbourne in terms of shortlisting.
www.sercan.de December 13th, 2007, 05:02 PM I hope Istanbul will get it :D
Actually its now better than 2008 or 2012.
Joop20 December 13th, 2007, 05:41 PM Rome would get the nod ahead of Busan or St Peterburg and so would Istanbul.
Based on what? Rome has a tacky olympic stadium, I doubt they're ready to build a new one. St Petersburg is a beautiful city with 4 million + inhabitants, and I have no doubt the Russians will spend truckloads of money to build some great venues.
Shortlist 2020:
Brisbane - Australia
Cape Town - South Africa
Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia
St Petersburg - Russia
Istanbul - Turkey
www.sercan.de December 13th, 2007, 05:47 PM Istanbul's stadium is maybe modern (inside etc), but let' be honest, it is one of the crappiest planned stadiums in the whole world.
nazrey December 13th, 2007, 06:07 PM Just wonder if some cities which comin as an 1st applicant city in 2020 but can made the IOC shortlist!
Mo Rush December 13th, 2007, 06:25 PM Based on what? Rome has a tacky olympic stadium, I doubt they're ready to build a new one. St Petersburg is a beautiful city with 4 million + inhabitants, and I have no doubt the Russians will spend truckloads of money to build some great venues.
Shortlist 2020:
Brisbane - Australia
Cape Town - South Africa
Kuala Lumpur - Malaysia
St Petersburg - Russia
Istanbul - Turkey
the technical evaluation comprises of a a number of factors
from general infrastructure to accommodation to the olympic village concept to government support, Rome's stadium meets IAAF requirements and along with many other existing venue they would score quite well in the "sports venues" section.
I see no reason why they would not come in close second to Melbourne,who would outscore Rome in terms of transport.
nomarandlee December 13th, 2007, 09:13 PM I would hope that Istanbul or Cape Town would get it. I would also like either Rio or Buenos Aeries to get it (if Rio doesn't get 16) but I have a feeling that 16 will be taking place in the Americas so unfortuantly that isn't likely.
redspork02 December 16th, 2007, 02:11 AM OK all of you throwing in the name of your city, have to understand the criteria's for hosting the Games. It takes billions of dollars and an infrastructure, to support thousands, if not a million people a day for 2 weeks? Will your city be able to support such a massive event?? Does it have the Hotel space?? The political will?? and a
"Mediterranean" climate??
We know every city is unique and has its own awesome characteristics but,
Name your city u think could have a chance and state WHY???
Dont just throw your city name in the mix, for national pride....:)
TampaMike December 16th, 2007, 02:31 AM I would love for Tampa to tag team with Orlando for the Olympics, but I just can't see High Speed Rail being ready by then.
-Corey- December 16th, 2007, 06:56 AM I dont think the US will get it again (chicago probably will get it in 2016)
www.sercan.de December 16th, 2007, 12:54 PM As for Istanbul i can say for example, that the lenght of the Metro will be 500km in 2023.
Is 500km good?
bigpoint December 16th, 2007, 03:52 PM Of course it is, if you imagine that todays longest Metro railway system ( London Underground) runs over about 408 kms.
www.sercan.de December 16th, 2007, 04:05 PM Great, but i still think that the Olympic stadium/park location is still too much outside the city
http://www.radikal.com.tr/veriler/2006/11/21/metro.gif
There is a industrial area in next to "Zeytinburnu". My dream would be to built the national park and stadium there
bigpoint December 16th, 2007, 04:21 PM Great, but i still think that the Olympic stadium/park location is still too much outside the city
http://www.radikal.com.tr/veriler/2006/11/21/metro.gif
There is a industrial area in next to "Zeytinburnu". My dream would be to built the national park and stadium there
I haven't seen this picture before but was the Olympic Stadium really so far away from the city center? :shocked: I would also have said that there is a lot of place in the near of Sariyer.
But what will happen to the Ataturk Stadium then? I don't think they will pay again money for a new stadium or am I wrong?
As I've heard Turkey/Istanbul will also officially try to get the Olympics 2020. I hope they will get it till then even there are more than 10 years for it. ^^
www.sercan.de December 16th, 2007, 06:22 PM Actually the area around the stadium/park will be better
on the east side of the satdium silk hills is planned
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=369459
And in the north Basaksehir
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=14958785
Sariyer is in te north which is Istanbuls forest area. Nobody would allow it
My Dream area is next to Fatih (at goolge earth you can see there a industrila area. No red roofs :D )
http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/34807/2000481211663882439_rs.jpg
You can destroy the houses on the "left" side. So Olympic village and Olympic park would be next to each other
As i know it is planned to add a 2nd tier to the end zone stands. But i do not think that the are is still good.
Brum Knows Best December 16th, 2007, 08:57 PM i think maybe a city in the middle east, Dubai
Olympiaki-Agones December 17th, 2007, 01:04 PM I think Rio 2016, Cape Town 2020 and Istanbul 2024 would be a very good change for this kind of world wide event. Brazil, South Africa and Turkey definitely can manage to host the games. It s just a matter of giving them the chance to prove it.
www.sercan.de December 17th, 2007, 01:17 PM In the one hand, 2020 is quite good because of double 20 :D
But on the other Hand, 2023 is the centenary year of the Turkish Republic :D
IMO 2020 or 2024 will be in Istanbul :D
amnesia December 17th, 2007, 01:19 PM It's
2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Doha
2020 Cape Town
I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand. DUBAI IS NOT EVEN IN THE BID!
Dubai's big brother DOHA is.
guigotz December 17th, 2007, 04:17 PM It's
2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Doha
2020 Cape Town
I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand. DUBAI IS NOT EVEN IN THE BID!
Dubai's big brother DOHA is.
No way u commited a mistake! 2016 and 2020 are wrong bids
2016 America
2020 ?
nomarandlee December 18th, 2007, 01:36 AM It's
2008 Beijing
2012 London
2016 Doha
2020 Cape Town
I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand. DUBAI IS NOT EVEN IN THE BID!
Dubai's big brother DOHA is.
Why is Doha the big brother?
MALAYSIAN December 18th, 2007, 06:52 PM Hahahaha.... okay buddy whatever you say! :lol::lol::lol:
When someone says Malaysia I think of
1) Zoolander ....hahaha
2) Those petronas towers.....
1) I strongly disagree with what u say!!! First, i think Chicago is zoolander, the air there is not good, the whole city is full of acidic gaseous. Kuala Lumpur is much much cleaner than Chicago. I think you should visit Malaysia and i think you will change your mind n those don believe Malaysia can host 2020 Summer Olympics can visit Malaysia.:bash:
2) Petronas Tower is one of the tallest buildings in the world n it also cost billions of dollars to build it. Petronas Tower is not only one of the most tallest tower in the world, it also one of the expensive buildings in the world. :banana:
MALAYSIAN December 18th, 2007, 07:13 PM Anyone who want to visit Kuala Lumpur can visit this website: www.tourism.gov.my
:) :banana:
MALAYSIAN December 18th, 2007, 07:34 PM I strongly believe that Malaysia will host 2020 summer Olympics and not 2028 and 2032.:banana:
guigotz December 18th, 2007, 08:02 PM By the Way, i Believe in Lisbon 2020
Mo Rush December 18th, 2007, 08:13 PM 1) I strongly disagree with what u say!!! First, i think Chicago is zoolander, the air there is not good, the whole city is full of acidic gaseous. Kuala Lumpur is much much cleaner than Chicago. I think you should visit Malaysia and i think you will change your mind n those don believe Malaysia can host 2020 Summer Olympics can visit Malaysia.:bash:
2) Petronas Tower is one of the tallest buildings in the world n it also cost billions of dollars to build it. Petronas Tower is not only one of the most tallest tower in the world, it also one of the expensive buildings in the world. :banana:
yip. only cities with tall building should host the olympic games, since they are clearly capable.
zfreeman December 18th, 2007, 09:24 PM I beleive the IOC has said over the past few years it wants to make the olympics available for the smaller bidder hence why the olympics have generally gone to bids where the majority of the infrastructure required is on one city based site with some of the smaller sports being in temporary facilities utilising major tourist venues, many times they are used to kick start regeneration within the given area.
These days its often thought that the IOC is looking at bids in recent years from smaller less well known places to host the event, they have mentioned in previous years -outside official circles- that it would favourable look at bids from countries who have not made a bid before the countries that were mentioned are currently either working towards bid within the next 15 -25 years as many need to develop the further infrastructure necessary to host the summer version of the games, so many who can do so are looking at hosting the winter games which require smaller facilities, so before making a bid to host the summer games. Examples of this are Georgia, Kazakhstan and North Korea.
It is known however that the commision is looking at formalising the current system of rotation to ensure that bids don't just become about the biggest cities in a region becoming the host because it can spend the most money on a bid. It is also known that they want to move away from cities that have hosted before, unless they make an 'exceptional bid'. So the likes of London (after 2012), Paris and Moscow will not host the games again.
The bids for 2016 are starting to see the bids from 'new' countries come through that have with assistance purely on a logistical basis from the IOC, such as bids from the Czech Republic, Azerbaijan and Brazil. On purely locational basis I would love to attend a Games in each of these countries, but believe with the possible exception of the Czech Republic. They- Baku and Rio-will fail to make the first cut. But this 'trial bid' will hold them in good stead for the future and truly believe Rio would have a magnificent chance of being a solid competitor for the 2024 Games.
I believe the 2016 Games will be held in one of 4 places Doha, Tokyo, Prague and Chicago, though all sortts of factors are taken into account such as how long a country has hosted before and how long ago that was as well as local features.
It is known fact that before Jacques Rogge steps down he would love to see Africa given the games whose best chance - Cape Town - is hopefully going to bid for the Games in 2020 and with the 2010 World Cup being hosted by South Africa stands it in great form to make it through the Cut.
One thing however is certain, we do not know how they - the Committee - will vote in the future so everything that is said about HOW things will go/should go/may go is all hearsay until they make the bid, and how they -the evaluation committee react when they visit the applicant cities.
But here is my thoughts
2016 :-
Baku - Inexperienced. No website to see further details. No comment.
Chicago - large city location and infrastructure already in place, we know the US can host the Games well, but the lack of confirmed site for the stadium in New York may carry some votes against this one.
Doha - hosted the Asian Games in 2006 and has many facilities in place which would require some new facilties and upgrading. significant national desire to host should push this bid forward.
Madrid - Experienced Bidder (both locally and nationally) but may need to bring something new to this bid.
Prague - Small well linked city. Growing international recognition. locational issues regarding main stadiums but can be sorted. "A Games for the Country"
Rio de Janeiro - Bid twice in recent years failed to make shortlist on both occasions with work may make the cut. But still not likely to get a games until probably the 2028 games. Minor Challenger.
Tokyo - Organised previous host known for well organised games. Significant Challenger.
I feel the bid will come down to a three way split with either Madrid/Prague, Tokyo and Doha. Early thoughts by those in the know gives a bid by Doha the edge over Tokyo.
2020.
Many factors at work including where the 2016 Games are held, but possible contenders include
Cape Town, South Africa (good chance)
Busan, South Korea (unknown factor, S. Korea hosted in 1988)
Budapest, Hungary (if prague succeeds in 2016 this will not go anywhere. minor challenger)
Copenhagen, Denmark (good chance if non EU country hosts 2016)
Delhi, India (another new bidder, unknown factor, traffic would be an issue)
St Petersburg (probably another Moscow style bid-minor challenger)
Bids are thought to be forthcoming from Mexico, Italy and Taiwan but nothing further is known.
Personally I feel this bid is at too early a stage to make any informed choice so i'm going with a personal favourite - Cape Town, but would love to see what Busan, Copenhagen and Delhi come up with for the bids.
zfreeman December 18th, 2007, 10:23 PM I strongly believe that Malaysia will host 2020 summer Olympics and not 2028 and 2032.:banana:
No news regarding a bid from KL has been indicated.
Though bidding for this games will not open till 2011, many have indicated a preference to bid for it already.
Do they have sites and designs in mind or is this just a personal call that your home country should host the games??
LMCA1990 December 18th, 2007, 10:26 PM I'm rooting for Cape Town :cheer:
zfreeman December 18th, 2007, 10:34 PM I think Rio 2016, Cape Town 2020 and Istanbul 2024 would be a very good change for this kind of world wide event. Brazil, South Africa and Turkey definitely can manage to host the games. It s just a matter of giving them the chance to prove it.
True it would be a magnificent few games London, Rio, CT and Istanbul.
But on the last few occasions when both Rio and Istanbul have bidded, both have failed to qualify for the short list that suggest to me anyway the bids had a significant amount of faults that the IOC thought the country could not overcome in the alloted timeframe to develop the Games. This does not mean that they wouldn't hosted a Good Games, but both need to raise its infrastructure first, which i believe was an major issue with Rio.
I have liked the idea of a Games in Istanbul fo a while and personally thought it would at least get through the cut for the 2012 Games, but without seeing what the IOC evaluation committee thought i feel able to make judgement on how Istanbul could go forward to a successful bid.
zfreeman December 18th, 2007, 10:45 PM I see many of the comments over the last couple of months have been made with out of date information.
For the most up to date comprehensive information on Olympic bids see
www.gamesbids.com.
This gives the listings i have used for my thoughts on the 2016 and 2020 bids in comment #181 above
shadyunltd December 18th, 2007, 11:48 PM I feel the bid will come down to a three way split with either Madrid/Prague, Tokyo and Doha. Early thoughts by those in the know gives a bid by Doha the edge over Tokyo.
Your post had some sense up to this. Reading this made me laugh.
How come half of the favorites are European cities when Europe will have hosted the previous games (2012), and will have hosted the 2004/2006 and 2014 (if we include Sochi to be in Europe).
European are definitely underdogs for 2016. The only chance an European city wins is if it has BY FAR the best proposal because the IOC won't allow three consecutive games to the same continent and not even 2 of the last 3.
As for Tokyo, hmm.... who's hosting the game next year. Ah, yes, Beijing. Tokyo, ruled out again, except if it has the best proposal by far. Tokyo's a long shot here.
Face it, the continents favored for 2016 are North America/South America and Africa. Asia and Europe are long shots here.
amnesia December 19th, 2007, 12:43 AM @gui, not a mistake at all ;)
@normand, well looking at history, Dubai used to be a nation without a stable economy, so the country of Qatar joined with Dubai and allowed them to share their economic wealth.
Hence the currency of it's time called the "Qatar and Dubai Riyal". Qatar continued it's development and paid of alot of Dubai's debt when it came to developing it's infrastructure.
When AbuDhabi suggested the creation of the UAE, Qatar, Dubai and Bahrain had initially rejected. (Qatar wanted to be the capital, however pressure from Saudi Arabia from fear that the nation would be too rich and powerfull quashed those plans), Bahrain was a proud nation and Dubai was in debt to Qatar.
Sadly though, Dubai joined the UAE in order to avoid any debt and the Qatar and Dubai Riyal was abandoned.
(just a bit of history if interested ^_^)
@Zfreeman, very well calculated and educated assumption :)
zfreeman December 19th, 2007, 04:10 AM Your post had some sense up to this. Reading this made me laugh.
How come half of the favorites are European cities when Europe will have hosted the previous games (2012), and will have hosted the 2004/2006 and 2014 (if we include Sochi to be in Europe).
OK. Europe will always have favourites will who will be contenders even if they do not get the games. Just like North America (USA/Canada) did throughout the period 1968-1992 when they 'won' 6 out of 12 Winter and Summer Games. Remember 10 of those Games were normal election type scenario, until the hiccup that was the 1980 and 84 Games.
European are definitely underdogs for 2016. The only chance an European city wins is if it has BY FAR the best proposal because the IOC won't allow three consecutive games to the same continent and not even 2 of the last 3.
My point still rides here, if the IOC doesn't want the same continent hosting the Games what happened during this period? I know times change but it still doesn't explain history when European cities wanted to host during this time but America had the strong hold on the IOC.
As for Tokyo, hmm.... who's hosting the game next year. Ah, yes, Beijing. Tokyo, ruled out again, except if it has the best proposal by far. Tokyo's a long shot here.
Point taken. However don't forget this was my opinion nothing else and we are entitled to our own opinions are we not??
Face it, the continents favored for 2016 are North America/South America and Africa. Asia and Europe are long shots here.
OK. If that is the case of favouring continental rotation, and that its a place from N.America/S. America and Africa. I would prefer to see Rio host but I just don't think it's ready.
North America is rapidly becoming one homogenised culture, the IOC looks for cultural diversity. Europe and Asia still have that diversity, each country still retains its own individuality and flare.
Like i have stated before the IOC wants to encourage new applicants who haven't hosted before. I believe, many of the older hosts will not host again and within a few years even the US and the majority of the capitals of western european countries such as London, Paris and Berlin, will lose out as more countries feel it will be within there reach to host a Summer or Winter Games. The place for the US and the likes of London will be as advisors and financiers. As I have said I would love to see some new Countries on the Olympic map.
Out of the 65 cities that have bid for summer and winter games in the period 2000-2014. 39 have been from Europe. 16 were shorlisted and 4 have hosted/will be hosting(2004,2006,2012,2014). Adding to that North America has held/will hold it twice (2002,2010). This has left only 2 for other continents Beijing and Sydney. this is not a good ratio. I would like to see both North America and Western Europe give up a spot to give chance to Africa and South America, East Europe and the Middle East to host.
I believe many cities in these areas are capable of hosting a great games with a little help from those who have done it before. The ones who would require the most minor help are already appearing in the bids for 2016 and 2020.
Some sort of system is require to assist lesser known olympic countries host I understand the IOC don't want a rotational system but maybe its the only way to get rid of the stranglehold of the EU/US hold on the Olympics. Maybe by saying that 2016 should be South America and 2020 Africa/Middle East 2024 Asia/Pacific could help.
Europe and the US can always host the Winter Games. God knows its cold enough in London at the moment!
shadyunltd December 19th, 2007, 04:54 AM I agree with you, Freeman. I see your point now. The only thing though is that it is too early to really establish clear-cut favorites, as some cities with a lot of chance of winning are missing on your list (Rio and Chicago) who both made enormous strides recently.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
A thing that can play in favor of Chicago is, apart from the fact that NBC has the richest TV contracts and apart from its strategic location, that it has never had the games in the past. If you're looking for diversity, you'll get some there.
Chicago is a city waiting to be fully recognized throughout the world. I'm not saying that it is not, but the games could have the same effect on Chicago than it had on Sydney for instance.
zfreeman December 19th, 2007, 01:39 PM I agree with you, Freeman. I see your point now. The only thing though is that it is too early to really establish clear-cut favorites, as some cities with a lot of chance of winning are missing on your list (Rio and Chicago) who both made enormous strides recently.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
A thing that can play in favor of Chicago is, apart from the fact that NBC has the richest TV contracts and apart from its strategic location, that it has never had the games in the past. If you're looking for diversity, you'll get some there.
Chicago is a city waiting to be fully recognized throughout the world. I'm not saying that it is not, but the games could have the same effect on Chicago than it had on Sydney for instance.
True, we have another two years for the bids to be fully submitted and the location decided on.....i know its early to assign clear cut favourites but we all have the ones that we root for, the ones we would support even if out home country is placing a bid.
dysan1 December 19th, 2007, 06:23 PM Just a question, but for a city to even put its bid forward, would it not have to win an internal bidding within its country?
Hence you could not have both Durban and Cape Town bidding from South Africa, and Brisbane and Melbourne from Australia. Am i correct in that thinking?
Mo Rush December 19th, 2007, 08:16 PM Just a question, but for a city to even put its bid forward, would it not have to win an internal bidding within its country?
Hence you could not have both Durban and Cape Town bidding from South Africa, and Brisbane and Melbourne from Australia. Am i correct in that thinking?
Correct, two cities from the same country cannot apply.
Durban could be put forward by NOCSA without running an internal bidding contest. If approved by national government, a city can apply to the IOC. I don't think an internal bidding procedure is an IOC requirement. The manner in which a city is chosen largely depends on NOCSA, or the olympic committee of specific country.
zfreeman December 19th, 2007, 09:20 PM Correct, two cities from the same country cannot apply.
Durban could be put forward by NOCSA without running an internal bidding contest. If approved by national government, a city can apply to the IOC. I don't think an internal bidding procedure is an IOC requirement. The manner in which a city is chosen largely depends on NOCSA, or the olympic committee of specific country.
Yes thats true, for example in the USA it is very competitive with four or five cities wanting to host each time the US bids. They do what the IOC do and allow each city to make a bid assessment, run evaluation visits then vote until it gets then make a cut and then decide between the last 2 or three, in the case of 2016. I believe there were 6 or 7 cities. It eventually came down to Los Angeles and Chicago without Chicago being put forward by USOC.
in many cases like Japan two cities come forward and basically its the one who wins the run-off vote wins the nomination.
Mo Rush December 19th, 2007, 09:39 PM Yes thats true, for example in the USA it is very competitive with four or five cities wanting to host each time the US bids. They do what the IOC do and allow each city to make a bid assessment, run evaluation visits then vote until it gets then make a cut and then decide between the last 2 or three, in the case of 2016. I believe there were 6 or 7 cities. It eventually came down to Los Angeles and Chicago without Chicago being put forward by USOC.
in many cases like Japan two cities come forward and basically its the one who wins the run-off vote wins the nomination.
South Africa ran a bidding contest for the 2004 bid, with Cape Town, Durban and Johannesburg. Which included visits to each cities and presentations by each city. Cape Town was successful and ended third in the race for 2004 which was always heading to Athens.
murab December 19th, 2007, 10:47 PM IMO Chicago will win 2016 Olympics, therefore the next olympic games in 2020 will not be given to a country from America again. I think Cape Town will bring the olympic games to South Africa in 2020 and therefore the games will be given to an African nation for the fisrt time. In addition to this, the 2010 FIFA World Cup could also work in Cape Town's advantage, since it would provide major upgrade of sports, transport and other infrastructure. For the following games, in 2024, my favorites are Istanbul and Rio, but I really want Istanbul to win it!:cheers:
Christian urbanite December 19th, 2007, 11:26 PM I think perhaps New York should host it.
Mo Rush December 19th, 2007, 11:41 PM I think perhaps New York should host it.
well they had their chance, and I was hoping they would bid for 2016. New York hosting would be amazing.
zfreeman December 20th, 2007, 02:05 AM I don't think New York would consider bidding for a while after the stadium disaster for 2012. Maybe for 2024 if the US decides to bid for that one.
People thought it was foolish for London to bid for 2012 after losing out on the 2004/5(?) IAAF World Athletics competition because a disaster with a propsed national athletics arena at Picketts Lock ended up being pulled at the last minute with no suitable replacement in mind - they did suggest moving it to the Don Valley Athletics stadium in Sheffield, but the IAAF wanted a big city, this was in 1997/8.
Its quite ironic really the new Olympic stadium and park is about 8-10km from the original site for Picketts Lock.
Ch.G, Ch.G December 24th, 2007, 01:55 PM Coming from Chicago, I can attest that there is a ton of enthusiasm at all levels -- public, municipal and corporate -- for these games. I'm honestly not sure I'd trust myself to support a better candidate (hometown pride is a strong thing!) were it not for the strong proposal the city put out: a scenic event beautifully situated along the lake with highly centralized venues that really capitalize on and promote urban values (dense living, public transportation, etc.); I'm convinced the plan is top-notch.
I also echo some of the comments made in few previous posts, i.e., a successful bid would do for Chicago's international PR what the 2000 games did for Sydney. Furthermore, on a purely practical level, they would substantially expedite the revitalization of an ailing transportation system and blighted neighborhood. Lastly, but no less significant, the city wants to prove what it couldn't when it was stripped of the III Olympiad in 1904 (which ultimately went to St. Louis).
I mean no slight to Atlanta, but I truly do not understand how that city managed to snare the games in '96. Were it not for Chicago's unique qualifications, I would think 20 years to be too short for a country to host again, especially because so many viable options have developed during that time in regions historically underrepresented in Olympic history.
So -- especially if Chicago wins the 2016 bid -- I imagine the IOC would restrict its scope for the subsequent games to Latin America, Africa or Southeast Asia. Cape Town would be my bet; in that event, Latin America certainly wouldn't be far off (2024? 2028?).
zfreeman December 26th, 2007, 04:58 AM I still feel Chicago's bid will be embroiled in the NY fiasco for 2012. If it does manage to clear a way from that, then like the other cities it will stand a chance but not having seen an proposed plans yet from any city.... I can only go on where I would want a Games to go.
Sorry ChG have been to chicago 3 years ago and didn't really enjoy it - it didn't help being mugged either.....I will say this though, I really enjoyed some of the older buildings constructed after the fire in the 1870's as Chicago is the mother of modern image of the skyscraper.
Cape Town for 2020.
Mo Rush December 26th, 2007, 05:17 AM I don't think New York would consider bidding for a while after the stadium disaster for 2012. Maybe for 2024 if the US decides to bid for that one.
People thought it was foolish for London to bid for 2012 after losing out on the 2004/5(?) IAAF World Athletics competition because a disaster with a propsed national athletics arena at Picketts Lock ended up being pulled at the last minute with no suitable replacement in mind - they did suggest moving it to the Don Valley Athletics stadium in Sheffield, but the IAAF wanted a big city, this was in 1997/8.
Its quite ironic really the new Olympic stadium and park is about 8-10km from the original site for Picketts Lock.
I wonder if Spurs are considering that site. Would be quite interesting. I support them moving elsewhere.
Ch.G, Ch.G December 27th, 2007, 06:38 AM I still feel Chicago's bid will be embroiled in the NY fiasco for 2012. If it does manage to clear a way from that, then like the other cities it will stand a chance but not having seen an proposed plans yet from any city.... I can only go on where I would want a Games to go.
Chicago and New York are autonomous with proposals that are wholly separate so I'm not sure that New York's 2012 bid will have much of an impact. Regarding plans, they have been out there for quite some time now. The website (http://www.chicago2016.org/) provides specifics.
Sorry ChG have been to chicago 3 years ago and didn't really enjoy it - it didn't help being mugged either.....I will say this though, I really enjoyed some of the older buildings constructed after the fire in the 1870's as Chicago is the mother of modern image of the skyscraper.
To each his own, certainly! I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. Were you to find yourself here again, though, I'd be more than happy to try to fix that!
dysan1 December 27th, 2007, 04:21 PM Correct, two cities from the same country cannot apply.
Durban could be put forward by NOCSA without running an internal bidding contest. If approved by national government, a city can apply to the IOC. I don't think an internal bidding procedure is an IOC requirement. The manner in which a city is chosen largely depends on NOCSA, or the olympic committee of specific country.
Thanx mo. will be interesting to see the way things turn out, as Durban is definately pushing the "sports and events" tag at present
saltiranch December 28th, 2007, 06:46 AM As I can notice you are not taking Mexico seriously, but wait until you see what Guadalajara is up to do for the Panamerican Games 2011, the city is living a development boom, and by that time they would be ready to show the world what they can do.
I know there are a lot of cities that easily can get the olympics too, but I have faith in Guadalajara 2020.
Selcuk December 28th, 2007, 12:51 PM My Vision:
2012: Europe: London, UK
2016: North America: Chicago, USA --> South America: NO CHANCE, because FIFA World Cup 2014 in Brazil!
2020: Europe: Istanbul // Madrid // Rome // Paris // Moscow --> South Africa: NO CHANCE, because FIFA World Cup 2010!
2024: South Africa or South America
2028: Asia
2032: Europe
Mo Rush December 28th, 2007, 01:01 PM My Vision:
2020: South Africa: NO CHANCE, because FIFA World Cup 2010!
??
The host city is decided in 2013, 3 years after South Africa hosts the World Cup. A succesful world cup will only boost chances.
isaidso December 28th, 2007, 02:07 PM IMO Chicago will win 2016 Olympics, therefore the next olympic games in 2020 will not be given to a country from America again.
Agree. Chicago looks good, but it will kill any chance for Toronto in 2020. Many people here are torn. We're rooting for our great lakes 'sister' city, but know our own bid for the subsequent games will be doomed if they win.
Lydon December 28th, 2007, 03:25 PM South Africa: NO CHANCE, because FIFA World Cup 2010!
Lmfao 10 years is quite a long time, not to mention the fact that it is only decided in 2013...3 years after the cup is finished...:lol:
zfreeman December 29th, 2007, 12:25 AM I wonder if Spurs are considering that site. Would be quite interesting. I support them moving elsewhere.
At the moment Spurs are looking develop a new stadium but have already said No if they were to be offered the redeveloped Olympic stadium as it will go from an 85-90 000 seater during the games to one that will hold about 26 000 after the games which would be too small for a Premier League side.
Current thinking is offering the redeveloped stadium to the League One side (the third tier in English football - Prem League, Championship then L1) Leyton Orient whose current ground Brisbane Road is only 2.5 km from the Olympic site, and whose site lease is up for renewal in 2015 the local council (LB Waltham Forest wants to return the area to residential use - the 10 000 seat stadium is in the middle of a established and up and coming area price wise, the stadium already as affordable housing in the corner plots of the site)
Another thought is to offer the stadium to a rugby team such as Saracens, but Rugby is not a well attended sport within the area, unlike football. The other issue is what would happen with the track which has to be kept. The premier league do not want a track for any stadium that their teams use.
zfreeman December 29th, 2007, 12:55 AM My Vision:
2012: Europe: London, UK
2016: North America: Chicago, USA --> South America: NO CHANCE, because FIFA World Cup 2014 in Brazil!
2020: Europe: Istanbul // Madrid // Rome // Paris // Moscow --> South Africa: NO CHANCE, because FIFA World Cup 2010!
2024: South Africa or South America
2028: Asia
2032: Europe
I don't think this a valid comment.
Just because a nation/continent hosts one event only increase its opportunity to host the next one if the first event is run well.
The USA hosted both the 1994 FIFA world cup and the 1996 Summer Games in Atlanta as well as the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City
The IOC has said on numerous occasions over the last 5 or so years they would LIKE the games to go to new places, with the possible exception of the Chicago bid for 2016. I believe the Games will go to new places and break new ground unless somewhere that has hosted before comes up with an extraordinary bid. London and Chicago (possibly) will be the last of the 'old' host cities to hold the Games, as I beleive they will never host the Games again - there is now too much competition from the developing countries, as the IOC is trying to get more a compact and environmentally friendly games this will assist other countries trying to get the games as fewer facilities are built.
MY PREDICTION
2012 London
2016 Doha OR Chicago
2020 Cape Town or Rio (if they decide to bid) -
Prominent IOC members including Dick Pound have suggested that the organization should give the Games to an African nation. This is supported by a comment made by IOC President Jacques Rogge concerning the Cape Town bid for the 2004 Olympics, which were awarded to Athens). Rogge said that he wanted to give the games to Cape Town, and told them to keep trying. The Cape Chamber of Commerce has indicated that Cape Town intends to bid for the 2020 Games. The 2010 FIFA World Cup could work in Cape Town's advantage, since it would provide major upgrade of sports, transport and other infrastructure. Cape Town has gained much experience over the last ten years through hosting numerous major events for sports such as cycling, fencing, table tennis, hockey, cross country, athletics, beach volleyball and various others.
I'm not going any further than 2020 because talking that far ahead is not sensible at this stage who knows what will happen in the next 10 years - 2018 will be the decision point for the 2024 games
TU 'cane December 29th, 2007, 12:57 AM ISorry ChG have been to chicago 3 years ago and didn't really enjoy it - it didn't help being mugged either.....I will say this though, I really enjoyed some of the older buildings constructed after the fire in the 1870's as Chicago is the mother of modern image of the skyscraper.
Cape Town for 2020.
Were you in the southside of Chicago??
zfreeman December 29th, 2007, 01:06 AM Were you in the southside of Chicago??
No, Near West Side in Tri - Taylor. I was on an exchange at UIC.
IMPÉRIO-BR December 29th, 2007, 08:58 PM True it would be a magnificent few games London, Rio, CT and Istanbul.
But on the last few occasions when both Rio and Istanbul have bidded, both have failed to qualify for the short list that suggest to me anyway the bids had a significant amount of faults that the IOC thought the country could not overcome in the alloted timeframe to develop the Games. This does not mean that they wouldn't hosted a Good Games, but both need to raise its infrastructure first, which i believe was an major issue with Rio.
I have liked the idea of a Games in Istanbul fo a while and personally thought it would at least get through the cut for the 2012 Games, but without seeing what the IOC evaluation committee thought i feel able to make judgement on how Istanbul could go forward to a successful bid.
That was in 1997 and 2004
Infra structure of the Rio today(2007)---->http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=498264
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=498264&page=2
Mo Rush December 30th, 2007, 01:57 AM That was in 1997 and 2001
Infra structure of the Rio today(2007)---->http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=498264
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=498264&page=2
as well as 2004/5 when Rio bid for 2012.
IMPÉRIO-BR December 30th, 2007, 03:11 AM as well as 2004/5 when Rio bid for 2012.
:doh: Was not 2001 was 2004 / 5...
But today the Rio has a better infrastructure and can go to the final:cheers:
Mo Rush December 30th, 2007, 04:02 AM :doh: Was not 2001 was 2004 / 5...
But today the Rio has a better infrastructure and can go to the final:cheers:
Well we'll have to see.
IMPÉRIO-BR December 30th, 2007, 04:51 AM ^well well If you are living in 2009, you will see:yes:
Rio Considered Chicago's Major Olympic Competition
Rio's Mayor Calls Battle For 2016 Games A 2-Horse Race
(CBS) CHICAGO Some of the people on the lookout for clues on the site for the 2016 Olympics believe Chicago is the frontrunner to land the summer games. The city's toughest challenger could be Rio de Janeiro.
As CBS 2 Chief Correspondent Jay Levine reports, Rio's mayor was in town Monday, sizing up the competition.
Mayor Cesar Maia called the battle for 2016 a two-horse race.
"I kind of agree with him," said Mayor Richard M. Daley, "But you can't take anything for granted."
The two had exchanged gifts in Rio de Janeiro during the Pan American Games in July, and have gotten to know each other and each others' home towns.
"They have the mountains, we have the skyscrapers; they have the ocean, we have the lake," Daley said. "We have a lot of things in common."
Those common issues discussed by western hemisphere mayors meeting Monday were drugs, gangs and violence.
Mayor Maia joined the gathering fresh from hosting the 2007 Pan American Games, where he told CBS 2 in July, he had a lot at stake.
But the coming race isn't life and death, his translator said.
"I think Chicago we're gonna compete in a very nice and kind way," he said.
Though Maia did pointedly counter the charge that Brazil would be unable to handle both the scheduled 2014 World Cup Soccer Championship and the 2016 Olympics.
The United states, he said had both the 1994 World Cup, some of the matches here in Chicago, and the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.
Rio got high marks for the Pan Am Games. Chicago will have to match them when it hosts the world Boxing Championship here next month, as most consider the two cities co-favorites for 2016.
Fonte: http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_267194618.html
IOC Members Identify Front-Runners For 2016 Games
Posted 4:59 pm ET (GamesBids.com)
The Chicago Tribune reports that two International Olympic Committee (IOC) members are disputing U.S. Olympic Committee (USOC) chairman Peter Ueberroth analysis that Chicago was no better than third or fourth in the seven-city race for the 2016 Summer Olympic Games.
Ching-kuo Wu of Taiwan, President of the International Boxing Association, and Gerhard Heiberg of Norway, an IOC executive board member, said Monday Chicago is not lagging in the 2016 race.
Heiberg said it was too early. “If Chicago does a good job hosting the (world) boxing championships, this will of course strengthen the possibility to host the (Olympic) Games. If Chicago is elected we know they will do a fantastic job in 2016”.
Heiberg said Chicago, Madrid, Tokyo and Rio de Janeiro were the front-runners, but added, “we need to see the others’ bid books”. Of the other three cities - Prague, Baku, and Doha – he said, “we need to see the others’ bid books”. He added, “right now there are four cities that look very good”.
Wu said Chicago hosting the championships presents “a good, strong opportunity” for Chicago to show it can handle a major event. “You should have confidence. You should be able to do it”, he said.
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Mo Rush December 30th, 2007, 01:58 PM ^well well If you are living in 2009, you will see:yes:
Rio was also considered a front -runner in 2004, but its first goal should be to shortlist for the first time.
lpioe December 30th, 2007, 10:11 PM I would love to see it in South America for the first time. Maybe already in 2016.
sul_mp December 31st, 2007, 09:25 PM http://www.cob.org.br/candidatura/pt/home/home.asp
Rio's 2016 site!
but i don't think Rio deserve it!
I would be great to have an Olympics here in Brazil... but I don't think Rio is prepared to it!
Chicago must win, or maybe Toronto or Dubai
ChrisDVD December 31st, 2007, 09:37 PM haha... 2024/2028 is for Montréal no doubt! ;) haha :P
zfreeman January 2nd, 2008, 06:29 PM If Rio does make the shortlist for 2016, then i think it will stand a good chance.
But as mentioned numerous times before we will have to wait till 2009 for any advancement/improvements on the ideas we have seen here.
-Corey- January 2nd, 2008, 09:22 PM haha... 2024/2028 is for Montréal no doubt! ;) haha :P
IF chicago get the games, Montreal wont get it, cus is in North America.
takiro January 5th, 2008, 01:44 AM Monterrey 2020
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2909/logomonterrey2020aa2.jpg
Adrian.Pete January 6th, 2008, 05:15 AM Realy cool...
so cool I have no words left to describe it's beauty...
Mr. Met January 12th, 2008, 10:19 PM there is no Dubai bid for the 2016 olympics, they should bid for the 2020 or 2024 olympics with Dubai Sports City
jak3m January 28th, 2008, 06:48 PM LONDON 2012
DOHA 2016
PRAGUE 2020
if Doha doesn't get 2016 Chicago might. Dubai won't get 2020 if Doha get's 2016.
Qatar Son 333 January 28th, 2008, 07:16 PM prague 2020 ? seems odd monterry and toronto would be a problem to that....
Mo Rush January 28th, 2008, 09:17 PM LONDON 2012
DOHA 2016
PRAGUE 2020
if Doha doesn't get 2016 Chicago might. Dubai won't get 2020 if Doha get's 2016.
dubai? lol
TheMann2000 January 28th, 2008, 09:20 PM My preferred:
2012 - London, England
2016 - Rio de Janiero, Brazil
2020 - Toronto, Canada
2024 - Cape Town, South Africa
Cape Town will make sure every continent has hosted the Olympic Games at least once. :)
Alphaville January 29th, 2008, 02:03 AM My preferred:
2012 - London, England
2016 - Rio de Janiero, Brazil
2020 - Toronto, Canada
2024 - Cape Town, South Africa
Cape Town will make sure every continent has hosted the Olympic Games at least once. :)
Canada won't get the Summer Olympics before 2032.
The 2010 Winter Olympics has not even happened, and Canada isn't a Summer superpower to be convincing enough.
stratus_magnus January 29th, 2008, 03:12 AM KUALA LUMPUR2020 OR PUTRAJAYA 202O
:lol::lol::lol:
Dallasbrink January 29th, 2008, 05:44 AM Monterrey 2020
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2909/logomonterrey2020aa2.jpg
Needs more work, i like the concept though.
Chicago will get the bid, I have no reason to think why they wont.
Alphaville January 29th, 2008, 06:14 AM Needs more work, i like the concept though.
Chicago will get the bid, I have no reason to think why they wont.
The fact that the United States isn't exactly in vogue right now and the IOC would want to distance itself from it for a while.
Lake Placid 1980, Los Angeles 1984, Atlanta 1996, Salt Lake City 2002....... seriously, do you expect the world not to roll their eyes at Chicago 2016.
2016 should be in a South American city like Buenos Aeries or Rio.
That way the big US networks can still get their precious primetime ratings. :|
The Olympics is the World's event -- American cities throw themselves at it with such expectation like it's the Superbowl.
Dallasbrink January 29th, 2008, 07:32 AM The fact that the United States isn't exactly in vogue right now and the IOC would want to distance itself from it for a while.
Ok, you need to back that up. your Independent thoughts on the USA does not mean the rest of the World agrees with you.
Alphaville January 29th, 2008, 07:39 AM Ok, you need to back that up. your Independent thoughts on the USA does not mean the rest of the World agrees with you.
As an educated non-American I am in better stead to make a decision on the feelings I have got from people here, in Asia and throughout the UK and Europe -- from personally being there.
Time for new frontiers.
Dallasbrink January 29th, 2008, 07:48 AM Just because you talked to a few people abroad and saw a few news articles does not make it true. Im an educated American that has been to different corners of the world in this post 9/11 world, your hatred and ill will is greatly miss placed. Besides, America will go through a revolution in less then a years time. Im sure your hate for America will diminish after our current president has been replaced by one of our newly elected officials. Bet you wish you could do that right?
maldini January 29th, 2008, 01:10 PM Who knows, maybe Shanghai will put in a bid for China again.
masterpaul January 29th, 2008, 02:52 PM 2016 - Doha, Qatar
2020 - Toronto, Canada
2024 - Warsaw (yep there bidding)
(the future skyscraper city of the EU, read a few articles, and they predict warsaw is gonna be "the" skyscrapercity of the EU.
Dallasbrink January 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM Warsaw?
masterpaul January 29th, 2008, 08:35 PM Yep, the polish president said something about bidding, possibly for 2024, (i think, thats when).
Alphaville January 30th, 2008, 12:22 AM Just because you talked to a few people abroad and saw a few news articles does not make it true. Im an educated American that has been to different corners of the world in this post 9/11 world, your hatred and ill will is greatly miss placed. Besides, America will go through a revolution in less then a years time. Im sure your hate for America will diminish after our current president has been replaced by one of our newly elected officials. Bet you wish you could do that right?
Hatred? WTF? A little dramatic.
This could turn into a long debate; and commonsense says the Olympics need to go to places like Africa and South America before revisiting the US.
I can't think of anything more boring than another American Olympics. Atlanta 1996 was an absolute mess.
Answer this, why can't the United States wait another 20 or so years like every other nation?
And a revolution? What revolution? The election. That's not a revolution.
Dallasbrink January 30th, 2008, 02:03 AM Answer this, why can't the United States wait another 20 or so years like every other nation?
And a revolution? What revolution? The election. That's not a revolution.
The Cities decide when they wont to bid, its not like Premier Bush just walks into Chicago and goes....YOU WILL NOW BID FOR OLYMPICS!
And it is a Revolution.
the Entire Leadership of the country is replaced by the people. Sounds like a revolution to me!
exclusiv January 30th, 2008, 03:06 AM hope Warsaw will bid for 2024 it would be awesome! I'm sure that Poland will change a lot before 2024 it will be a great country for the Olympic Games!:)
Alphaville January 30th, 2008, 03:15 AM The Cities decide when they wont to bid, its not like Premier Bush just walks into Chicago and goes....YOU WILL NOW BID FOR OLYMPICS!
Thats not what I was refering to. The fact that the cities still make serious bids shows little idea or respect for what the Games are about.
The United States traditionally shows interest in staging a Games only 8-12 years after hosting (be it winter or summer). There is that expectation that the US is owed the Games to revitalise its cities (the primary motivation of Atlanta and Salt Lake in their bid books).
There does not seem to be that pause that most other nations manage of "OK -- just held the Games, lets back off because we won't win anyway"
US cities don't do this, its a constant flood of bids. Look at Reno, the mayor actually requested (during the 2002 Games) that the IOC reopen candidadtures for 2010 because Nevada needed its chance like Utah had.
Dallasbrink January 30th, 2008, 07:36 AM ^^ Because America is HUGE, much larger then alll the Euro countries and with so many Large cities, each one wants to stand out in it own way. It will be 14 years between Salt Lake in 2002 and Chicago in 2016. And New York's bid for 2012 was the First American City to make a serious bid since Salt Lake (10 years like you said) So now im starting to have a hard time understand what your complaining about.
masterpaul January 30th, 2008, 09:29 PM My Mock-Up Bid of Warsaw:
http://i25.tinypic.com/2ev82sz.jpg
The Olympic stadium... The White Eagal Stadium (not finished)
Capacity: 76 000- 80 000
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hfvb8.png
http://i25.tinypic.com/2wn8vg2.png
http://i32.tinypic.com/5ls379.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/j11q39.jpg
Dallasbrink January 30th, 2008, 10:05 PM Love the logo, not the stadium.
Mo Rush January 30th, 2008, 10:15 PM My Mock-Up Bid of Warsaw:
http://i25.tinypic.com/2ev82sz.jpg
The Olympic stadium... The White Eagal Stadium (not finished)
Capacity: 76 000- 80 000
http://i29.tinypic.com/35hfvb8.png
http://i25.tinypic.com/2wn8vg2.png
http://i32.tinypic.com/5ls379.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/j11q39.jpg
Is that the Athens Olympic Stadium bowl from Sketchup?
masterpaul January 30th, 2008, 10:41 PM yep, fixed up,
Guatemala1000% January 30th, 2008, 11:21 PM I think that Latin America can host the 2016 summer games, for me Athens 2004 and London 2012 are enough for Europe, so 2016-2020 olympics are the time for Latin America and Africa.
Our candidate cities that can be able to host the summer olympic games are:
Buenos Aires - Argentina
Sao Paulo - Brazil
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
Santiago - Chile
México - México
Monterrey - México
Guadalajara - México
Bogotá - Colombia
Check the videos, It seems that Brazil is really gonna fight for 2016 summer olympics
http://www.rio2016.com.br/pt/galeria/videos/default.aspx
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