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Travis007 January 6th, 2006, 04:11 AM http://www.m5vlife.com/ by tasdesignbuild, Heads up by Achivistower on UT
It's kind of a lame name for a condo but unique and original nonetheless, using the postal code. No idea yet where the exact location is yet, probably somewhere in the garment district which is currently adding new life with all these new mid-rise condo/loft projects. No info or render is available yet either, but it would be good if it fills up the lot on the SE corner of K/S.
BTW, this gets me thinking, what postal code do you guys represent?
M6H all the way! :)
valantino January 6th, 2006, 04:55 AM can't wait to see how it tastes
Filip January 6th, 2006, 05:40 AM M8V:)
rise_against January 6th, 2006, 07:15 AM L1J...not that im proud about it.
CrazyCanuck January 6th, 2006, 07:38 AM L1S
cassius January 6th, 2006, 06:12 PM L1W
greenbuttskunk January 6th, 2006, 06:44 PM M5V
valantino January 6th, 2006, 10:05 PM M4E
algonquin January 6th, 2006, 10:27 PM My girl is telling me that M5V was our old postal code in parkdale...
representing L8R yo
Regan4000 January 7th, 2006, 05:22 PM M2L
phunky January 8th, 2006, 01:41 AM L5A here :P
rise_against January 8th, 2006, 05:26 AM The conversation in this thread is very deep. Hardly any spam at all! ;)
Taller, Better January 8th, 2006, 05:42 AM M4Y
Does anyone have a pic of the rendering for this? I just hate those
damn flash sites condos use, and hate registrating to enter..
Thanks!!!
Jaye101 January 8th, 2006, 07:12 AM M1B!!!
camel_trainer January 9th, 2006, 09:03 PM M4K rep, rep, represent....
partybits January 9th, 2006, 10:09 PM M5V is the bounded by the South side of king W to the lake, and Spadina to Strachan.
As it says that it's on King, Travis is right that it probably is in the Garment District.
As for me, I'm M6K
The 'Sauga January 13th, 2006, 12:13 AM I really think that this is the 46-62 Spadina proposal which is a 19 and a 12 storey development which calls for the demolishion of an older warehouse building at Spadina and Wellington. But I see this as an improvement, with aA's modern TO style architecture and Tas' ability to come up with unique and innovative ideas. :)
valantino January 13th, 2006, 12:24 AM ^that's the safe bet however it could also be a nearby parking lot
addisonwesley January 13th, 2006, 02:07 AM Budget?
valantino January 13th, 2006, 03:25 AM ^yeppers - the only one left in the area without a proposed development
The 'Sauga January 13th, 2006, 03:38 AM The SE corner of K/S would be my desired speculation site for this condo. One of the last remaining parking lots along Spadina and would strengthen both the King and Spadina streetwalls. Anything that goes there in the future should also take the underwhelming Winners store with it.
partybits January 13th, 2006, 04:51 AM Any of these spots would be good. Either we get rid of a parking lot at a major intersection, a budget that really stand out and does'nt belong, or an old industrial building on it's last legs with very little history.
Hope to see all of these spots be redeveloped in the next couple years or so.
valantino January 13th, 2006, 05:14 AM ^its not an ugly building and looks pretty solid as well
If it had no history, it wouldn't be protected
Travis007 February 17th, 2006, 02:59 AM Great news for all!
I got an email today, stating that the site will be 375 King Street West, which is currently the Speedy Muffler shop.
Building is to be 30 stories with 200 suites and starts from under 175K.
kyser soze February 17th, 2006, 05:45 PM M5J
neggbird February 18th, 2006, 01:18 AM L5R
Jaye101 February 18th, 2006, 04:44 PM M1B
*doesn't care he already posted it once*
M5V is the bounded by the South side of king W to the lake, and Spadina to Strachan.
As it says that it's on King, Travis is right that it probably is in the Garment District.
As for me, I'm M6K
Don't you mean Fashion District?
snoopy February 18th, 2006, 04:50 PM M1V.. soon to be L6B
KingWilson February 18th, 2006, 10:49 PM L1W
way to go cassius- we should have a south pickering forumers meet.
partybits February 21st, 2006, 04:25 AM M1B
*doesn't care he already posted it once*
Don't you mean Fashion District?
Officially the Fashion district, but some call it the Garment district. I guess from the days when the place was filled with fabric/textile factories as far the eye can see.
Fashion district simply sounds more snazzy and attracts more people to the place.
thryve February 21st, 2006, 12:47 PM Fashion district simply ....attracts more people to the place.
Fashion?! Worked for me!
-thryve
CLP1 April 3rd, 2006, 05:14 PM I believe the site will be 375 King Street West.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2006/agendas/committees/te/te060404/it030.pdf
I saw billboard on Church Street, near Carlton: Ad had m5v as tall highrise "on King, just East of Spadina".
CLP1
superman987 April 4th, 2006, 01:41 AM m4e
tkip April 4th, 2006, 05:53 AM I saw a rendering riding the bus today and thought I saw some bright green glass on the building. It was too quick a look though.
Travis007 April 8th, 2006, 02:27 AM Gonna be one tall, sleek, and colourful tower once completed. Condo buyers are gonna be able to customize their own personal condo suites including exterior colour. Sounds like a great condo to buy for personal living. :okay:
http://static.flickr.com/45/124910669_c19833ac0d_o.png
tkip April 8th, 2006, 06:28 AM There seems to be more and more projects with buyers choosing their own exterior window colours these days. That being said, I saw a rendering up close of this new one and it didn't look impressive. Kind of boring box design.
Travis007 April 10th, 2006, 12:01 AM ^^BTW, I saw the rendering too today. The building actually looked pretty interesting, it has potential. The glass on the render actually resembled more of the greyish/teal on Hudson than green to me, and the window facade is accented by different colours, and there was a roof-top element too.
Boom Shaka Laka April 11th, 2006, 01:48 AM Here's the billy..
From Yonge On East Side, North of Dundas.
http://www.torontojava.com/images/m5v_board.jpg
Digital Zoom of render
http://www.torontojava.com/images/m5v_board_zoom.jpg
Serves you right buddy. For getting in front of my photo you are now internationally famous as the guy in front of the speedy site.
http://www.torontojava.com/images/m5v_site.jpg
Taller, Better April 11th, 2006, 02:15 AM ^^^ You win the prize for best new name of the month!!!
Travis007 April 11th, 2006, 02:25 AM Thanks for the pics Boom Shaka Laka (Great name too)!! :okay:
It looks really interesting. I can't wait to see better renderings of the whole building, this could become one of my favourite projects. :)
CrazyCanuck April 11th, 2006, 04:08 AM The project looks really nice, and even some spire-esque glass on the left hand side with more colour, looks good.
rise_against April 11th, 2006, 04:22 AM Hahaha that speedy shop is so pathetic...project looks good :D
KGB April 11th, 2006, 04:43 AM King West...you are just blossoming. All that and soon an Alsop to boot. maybe that idea of turning it into a streetcar-only street might happen?
KGB
rise_against April 11th, 2006, 04:56 AM That would be cool!
Filip April 11th, 2006, 05:02 AM Wow that buildings looks fucking great!
Indigoman April 22nd, 2006, 12:00 AM Full rendering of the entire building from AoD on UT:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/GeekyBoyTO/M5VLife.jpg
Looks really beautiful, looks like an evolved version of the Toronto style condo. :)
AlvinofDiaspar April 22nd, 2006, 12:36 AM Indigoman
Full rendering of the entire building from AoD on UT:
Actually, it's courtesy of goodboys on UT - I only helped him to post it online.
AoD
snoopy April 22nd, 2006, 02:12 AM sleek and modern. Great design. i really like the roof element made up of multicoloured glass.
Buster April 22nd, 2006, 06:29 PM Wow. . .check out the floating balconies! What would Darwin say about this genetic mutation of the Toronto style?
Taller, Better April 22nd, 2006, 06:32 PM Wow. . .check out the floating balconies! What would Darwin say about this genetic mutation of the Toronto style?
I heard he bought the penthouse!
CrazyCanuck April 23rd, 2006, 12:04 AM Welcome to SSC Alvin.
camel_trainer April 23rd, 2006, 04:00 PM Welcome, AoD. Your work over on UT is highly regarded.
Regan4000 April 23rd, 2006, 04:05 PM i like it!
what's with the random red box on the left hand side... a love themed room maybe?
thryve April 23rd, 2006, 06:29 PM Cantilevered balconies? Woooahhhh, dude!
-thryve
CrazyCanuck April 23rd, 2006, 06:50 PM i like it!
what's with the random red box on the left hand side... a love themed room maybe?
It's a vent.
Taller, Better April 23rd, 2006, 07:19 PM It's a vent.
I've been known to get red when I vent, too!! :moods:
G_DOG April 23rd, 2006, 08:26 PM Full rendering of the entire building from AoD on UT:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/GeekyBoyTO/M5VLife.jpg
Looks really beautiful, looks like an evolved version of the Toronto style condo. :)
agreed,i hope they get their height approval because this building will complement the festival tower in the entertainment district.
Dieselpwrz July 14th, 2007, 04:39 PM What do you guys think of M5V? I really like the design of this building. I found it interesting to learn that the condo itself is not being built right at the corner of Blue Jays Way and King W (where the sales center is) but rather a little bit west of the corner. So it would be a shame for those who buy an East facing unit in M5V only to find out in a year that their views are going to be blocked by another high rise tower to be built where the current sales center is.
It's too bad the prices are insane at M5V too - units are selling at > $550 per sq foot (excluding parking). I understand the location is great but that seems crazy.
VikkyD July 14th, 2007, 07:05 PM I absolutely ADORE M5V, if i were in the market for a condo, I think I would definitely live there. Wonderful building, and the green features, and the options to custom design the suites, its very very nice, and I love the neighbourhood.
anyone know the percentage of how many units have been sold? I want to see this tower rise!
valantino July 14th, 2007, 07:31 PM one of those condos where the likelihood of approval is at most 50/50 in pro-development Toronto - be stupid to drop any money into this tower
Dieselpwrz July 14th, 2007, 07:50 PM one of those condos where the likelihood of approval is at most 50/50 in pro-development Toronto - be stupid to drop any money into this tower
You think this won't get built? The sales center said they're > 50% sold and I think they got approval to increase the height slightly to around 28 or 30 stories I can't remember.
gei July 14th, 2007, 09:00 PM Location is great. Building looks nice. But it's incredibly expensive. You could move a block south into the cityplace buildings and get a better view, much nicer amenities, and a much much better price.
Not to mention I get the feeling there won't be much (if any) visitor parking at M5V. They tout the easy access to public transportation as the reason visitor parking wont be as "important".
Epi July 14th, 2007, 10:48 PM M5V is probably my favorite development in the city today. I absolutely adore their unit designs, probably the best I have ever seen in this city. I was at the sales center two weeks ago, and they were already >50% sold. While the top-end units were still there, all the cheaper units (2 bedroom and below) were more than 80% gone.
There is absolutely no comparison to Cityplace. The M5V interiors are infinitely nicer, with very decent amenities in the building. Cityplace just has this 'cheap' feeling all around it, M5V is probably the highest end condo in the area aside from the Hotel-Condo developments. As well the location is just much better than Cityplace as well.
What is this tower that's going to go over the M5V sales center that you are talking about?
phunky July 14th, 2007, 11:13 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=303169
Dieselpwrz July 14th, 2007, 11:57 PM M5V is probably my favorite development in the city today. I absolutely adore their unit designs, probably the best I have ever seen in this city. I was at the sales center two weeks ago, and they were already >50% sold. While the top-end units were still there, all the cheaper units (2 bedroom and below) were more than 80% gone.
There is absolutely no comparison to Cityplace. The M5V interiors are infinitely nicer, with very decent amenities in the building. Cityplace just has this 'cheap' feeling all around it, M5V is probably the highest end condo in the area aside from the Hotel-Condo developments. As well the location is just much better than Cityplace as well.
What is this tower that's going to go over the M5V sales center that you are talking about?
Sorry if I confused everyone - I am not aware of any current proposed development where the current sales center is at the corner of King W and Blue Jays Way. I was just speculating that there could very well be something built there one day and it would block the M5V east views (which are the best views in the building).
I agree M5V blows away Cityplace, but is it really worth 1.5x+ the price for basically a similiar location and a similar unit? Cityplace has some amazing value if you can put up with the 'cheap' feel.
VikkyD July 15th, 2007, 05:45 AM if you can put up with the 'cheap' feel
well, I'm sure there is a far larger percentage of people who agree with you.... which is why there are far more buildings at cityplace! however I personally, cannot put up with the "cheap" feel... and think it's entirely worthwhile to spend the extra money on something wonderful. I'd rather have 300 sqr ft. at The Ritz Carlton, then 1000 Sqr. ft. at Cityplace. but then thats just me....
look@round July 15th, 2007, 06:44 AM Wouah, this building looks great, I really like the rendering! A bit more original than many other condos built or about to be built in Toronto... Nothing to compare with the buildings from Cityplace. Even the location is better.
You always pay for quality, and I guess it's worth it...
kettal July 15th, 2007, 06:48 AM L0L
phunky July 15th, 2007, 09:01 AM I love the tower, but the base feels weird to me. Very plain!
Dream Brother July 15th, 2007, 05:20 PM agreed,i hope they get their height approval because this building will complement the festival tower in the entertainment district.
We already have a handful of these towers.
valantino July 15th, 2007, 06:35 PM You think this won't get built? The sales center said they're > 50% sold
They could sell standing room only. If it doesn't get approved, it doesn't get built as rendered.
I think they got approval to increase the height slightly to around 28 or 30 stories I can't remember.
wrong development - this one started as 34 storeys with the developer quickly revising it to 30 when the planners got in a tizzy. Its now at the OMB where shadowing most likely will reduce it further
aberrate July 16th, 2007, 05:26 AM I really like this building...it's one of my favourite new condo developments in Toronto. I am a total sucker for coloured glass...AND it's LEED certified.
look@round July 17th, 2007, 06:25 AM I can't really see where the building is going to be built...
If I look on the map (http://www.m5vlife.com/phase3/imageData/m5v_neighbourhood_map.pdf), I guess they'll probably have to destroy some other building... Does anyone know which one? It looks like it's instead of a 5 or 6 floor building (at least) with "pink" windows... It sounds strange to me to destroy such a building... Or is it some other one nearby?
phunky July 17th, 2007, 06:50 AM That is kinda weird.
valantino July 17th, 2007, 05:23 PM its replacing Speedy Muffler and a restaurant
look@round July 20th, 2007, 05:48 AM ^^ Oh, OK, thanks, it's a bit more East than I tought.
Here are some pictures of the place I took quickly tonight when I passed by.
The sales center, at the corner of the street, is really nice btw!
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5194/img9234cv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2127/img9238hn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2626/img9236ag0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
current September 22nd, 2007, 06:03 PM I came across this document on the OMB web site. The OMB decision was issued on Sept 17, 2007 and the case is still open. I am not familiar with the OMB process and the document is a very long 48 pages. I skimmed thru it and it looks like the OMB does not have a problem with M5V. I was looking for OMB's position on M5V's height and the OMB's opinion on the importance of shadowing.
On page 31:
"The Board finds that the moving shadow cast by the Development
permits a reasonable amount of sunlight on King Street West from
March to September and provides some relief from the hot sun in the
summer."
On page 39:
"The proposal also satisfies the policies of the in-force Official Plan with
regard to improving the public amenities by preserving a reasonable
amount of sunlight on the north side of King Street West while also
providing some shade which is welcomed by pedestrians on hot summer
days."
On page 46:
"The proposed development allows reasonable sunlight penetration,
skyview and does not impair privacy. The limited shadowing is not unusual
in a highly urbanized area and will likely be welcome in the hot summer
months."
On page 6:
"During the winter months, the sidewalks on the north side of King Street
West will be in shade from the as-of-right built-out form on the south side of
King Street West. Mr. Parakh advises that the City’s urban design policy
accepts this shadowing during the winter time since winters are cold and
dark and people are dressed accordingly. (Page 32 City Urban Design
Handbook)"
And on page 21:
"The Board finds:
...The increased reduction in sunlight in the winter months is accepted and is not an issue."
On Page 46:
"Based on the foregoing, the Board finds that the proposed development is
in the public interest and represents good planning."
The case is still open but it looks like it will get approval.
http://www.omb.gov.on.ca/e%2Ddecisions/pl060524%5F%232532.pdf
ale26 September 22nd, 2007, 06:59 PM So where exactly is this gorgeuous this going to be built?
look@round September 22nd, 2007, 10:13 PM I guess it's gonna be here:
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1654/m5vxc4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Am I right?
current November 4th, 2007, 01:44 AM Hoarding is going up on the M5V site. Speedy muffler is now gone.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2324/1849282834_0deff47083_b.jpg
Skybean November 4th, 2007, 06:51 AM Wonderful building!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/GeekyBoyTO/M5VLife.jpg
It looks similar to SP!RE, which turned out to a gorgeous building itself.
Taller, Better November 4th, 2007, 07:00 AM Wow... will the parade of new towers slow down? It is bewildering!
CrazyCanuck November 4th, 2007, 03:33 PM I like how the balconies extend off of the tower. If done right, this building could look very good.
WinnipegPatriot November 4th, 2007, 07:58 PM The hues are cool...this area needs density....so there is this tower, Festival Tower...what else?
Elkhanan1 December 11th, 2007, 10:04 AM First posted by lazarus on UT:
http://i15.tinypic.com/82jhs0o.jpg
They've tinkered with the base, in addtion to some other refinements, and it looks much better now; has more street presence. This promises to be a great addition to the neighbourhood.
gei December 11th, 2007, 01:48 PM The hues are cool...this area needs density....so there is this tower, Festival Tower...what else?
glas is going up right there. the hudson just finished. I believe victory is not too far away...
this area is already pretty dense as it is however. not many (if any) parking lots left on that strip of king street. not sure why people are saying it "needs" density.
gei December 11th, 2007, 04:05 PM Saw this article in the Star today which I found interesting. I had no idea Speedy was dead.
Somewhat relevant since M5V is going on top of one.
Speedy nears end of the road
An Ontario court lifted Speedy's protection from creditors late last week after the holder of more than $2.8 billion in debt indicated the company would need more money than the maximum amount available under debtor-in-possession financing.
The company was the country's second-biggest auto-repair chain and used the slogan, "at Speedy, you're a somebody." Speedy had hoped to buy time under court protection and sell as many of 27 corporate stores as possible in an effort to survive.
"It is evident that the intention of Speedy is to have all of its assets sold, and that it does not intend to continue to operate beyond the conclusion of the sales process," Topolinski said.
http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/284274
current February 26th, 2008, 12:44 AM February 25
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2247/2291632209_8690a03346_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3070/2291632205_f70f181fbe_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/2291632195_40df8e3661_b.jpg
gei February 26th, 2008, 07:47 AM We might wanna change the title of this one from "proposed"
Also, doesn't anyone else feel like this building will dwarf its surroundings. Such as the dozens of restaurants surrounding it? The festival tower too. This might be heresy on this board, but I feel like this area really didn't need such tall buildings...
(flame suit on)
NorthYorker February 26th, 2008, 07:59 AM ^^Good point, although it didn't occur to me at first. Somehow it seems to get away with the height though. Odd.
monkeyronin February 27th, 2008, 10:38 PM Also, doesn't anyone else feel like this building will dwarf its surroundings. Such as the dozens of restaurants surrounding it? The festival tower too. This might be heresy on this board, but I feel like this area really didn't need such tall buildings...
(flame suit on)
Its not really height which is the problem in a case like this, but rather the "bulk" and how the tower meets the street. I really do like this tower, but can agree that it is a bit out of scale. Not, however, too tall. If it were narrower (should've only consumed the garage, not the Victorian beside it as well), and the podium not so monolithic in comparison to it's neighbours, it would would fit in just fine.
ladyscraper February 27th, 2008, 11:39 PM this tower looks great! i definitely agree with the comparisons to sp!re so i hope it turns out as nice as that one!
now that you guys mentioned it the rendering does look a bit strange having a huge tower right next door to an old house
Wrk_InProgress February 27th, 2008, 11:55 PM It is my understanding that Daniels, Pinnacle, TAS & another developer have all purchased land in the immediate area. So these projects will not be giants in a sea of Lilliputians for a long time.
Elkhanan1 February 28th, 2008, 05:44 AM Regarding that orange rectangle on the north-west corner, a third to half-way up the building: I don't mind it aesthetically but, if it serves any practical function, i.e. an air-intake / ventillation system, won't it be really loud, drippy or otherwise intrusive to adjacent condo occupants? In other words, can balconies, or even the condo units themselves, be enjoyed directly below that thing; or above and beside it for that matter?
Waterloo_Guy February 28th, 2008, 06:02 AM This building is awesome. Great location for it.
Wrk_InProgress February 28th, 2008, 06:45 AM Regarding that orange rectangle on the north-west corner, a third to half way up the building: I don't mind it aesthetically but, if it serves any practical function, i.e. an air-intake / ventillation system, won't it be really loud, drippy or otherwise intrusive to adjacent condo occupants? In other words, can balconies, or even the condo units themselves, be enjoyed directly below that thing; or above and beside for that matter?
Great point and something I never considered.
Yes, the red box halfway up the building will contain all the mechanical that is usually found on the roof.
All of the top floor suites have direct access to their section of the roof.
Elkhanan1 February 28th, 2008, 07:22 AM ^^So why does there still appear to be a mechanical penthouse on the roof? If all mechanical's are to be housed midway up the building in that orange rectangle thing, why isn't the roof completely flat?
outinleftfield February 28th, 2008, 04:12 PM Maybe a party cabana?:banana::cheers::banana:
current February 28th, 2008, 09:27 PM February 27
Speedy is now completely demolished.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2298808702_9d9348993e_b.jpg
Marcanadian February 28th, 2008, 10:08 PM Wow, that was a Speedy demolition. ;)
Wrk_InProgress February 28th, 2008, 10:08 PM ^^So why does there still appear to be a mechanical penthouse on the roof? If all mechanical's are to be housed midway up the building in that orange rectangle thing, why isn't the roof completely flat?
Uhh...yeah...about that :nuts:
When I visited the sales office, it was mentioned that having the mechanical room on the 15/16 floors is more efficient than having it on the roof. They also mentioned that they will gather water from the rooftop which will be used for the amenities on the lower and landscaping.
So what does the stuff on the roof mean ? Maybe they can't fit all of it into that box, maybe they need some on the roof to collect the rainwater ?
Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about ?
Elkhanan1 February 29th, 2008, 06:44 AM ^^Gotta love those sales agents. I just hope you purchased a unit on the east side of the building, away from all the racket of the 'more efficient' mechanicals.
Taller, Better February 29th, 2008, 05:48 PM I think this is going to be a great addition to the area...
current April 30th, 2008, 04:26 AM April 29
The building is being demolished.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2453233886_b88f791fa5_b.jpg
isaidso May 3rd, 2008, 09:58 AM Is ground breaking on this one still set for one week from today? Since they made some alterations, I've really grown to admire this one. It looks slick and offers much more visually than most of the glass condos we are seeing. Approaching from the west, the CBD will look much broader with the addition of this tower. Festival, RBC, and Ritz will do the same.
Posted by Lazarus at UT:
http://i15.tinypic.com/82jhs0o.jpg
I wish CityPlace looked more like this one. They could learn a great deal from this tower, especially how it meets the street.
Taller, Better May 3rd, 2008, 06:31 PM What would be a comparison of the square foot prices of these units compared to City Place?
Toronto2008 May 3rd, 2008, 07:41 PM Is ground breaking on this one still set for one week from today? Since they made some alterations, I've really grown to admire this one. It looks slick and offers much more visually than most of the glass condos we are seeing. Approaching from the west, the CBD will look much broader with the addition of this tower. Festival, RBC, and Ritz will do the same.
Posted by Lazarus at UT:
http://i15.tinypic.com/82jhs0o.jpg
I wish CityPlace looked more like this one. They could learn a great deal from this tower, especially how it meets the street.
is that the "rogers centre" to the right of the building?:lol:
CrazyCanuck May 4th, 2008, 02:30 AM Yes it is. This whole area will see increased density in the next 2-3 years.
isaidso May 4th, 2008, 10:09 AM What would be a comparison of the square foot prices of these units compared to City Place?
Good question. As stated in the ad, units start at $300,000, so that provides a very rough indication.
My point is that good design doesn't have to cost more than bad or average design. It tends to be other things such as materials and special features that escalate costs considerably. We're inundated with firms that do a good job knocking off desirable design at more affordable prices. Concord doesn't need to spend a lot of money to incorporate better design into their towers.
They're already paying for design, why not emulate more of the great features like larger podiums, use of colour, variation in texture, and scale at street level? Even better street art doesn't cost that much relative to the building. It requires some creativity, innovation, and passion for architecture on their part. It makes good business sense too. All of these things can go a long way in helping to market units to consumers and strengthen the perceived value which translates into stronger resale values. Good design is the smartest way to differentiate yourself from the competition, and it doesn't have to cost you much. Firms like Apple Computer and H&M know this all too well.
This condo is going to offer some dynamite views to the east. For the time being, it will offer close, unobstructed views of the CBD.
bigcityboy May 5th, 2008, 04:32 PM i always thought this building went to the corner of king and blue jays way/peter - where the sales office for m5v is located. i like that it's mid-block like that.
so that brings up the question, what do you think is going to go in where the sales office is? it's a thin site, but i imagine you could get some pretty good height there.
current August 13th, 2008, 12:26 AM August 11
Looking north towards King West and Mountain Equipment Co-op.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2757072029_95f2a667af_b.jpg
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Looking northwest with glas and the Hudson in the background.
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current September 28th, 2008, 01:27 AM September 23
All of the steel shoring beams have been installed. Looking north towards King St.
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Epi September 29th, 2008, 03:40 AM What would be a comparison of the square foot prices of these units compared to City Place?
M5V is around $500-550/sq foot. It's a pretty expensive building overall.
Cityplace is more like $450 I believe.
current September 29th, 2008, 03:50 AM September 28
Excavation has begun.
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A closeup of the September 23 climber and I also noticed the solar panels above the climber on MEC. In the future M5V will be casting a shadow on the solar panels.
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Taller, Better September 29th, 2008, 05:29 AM M5V is around $500-550/sq foot. It's a pretty expensive building overall.
Cityplace is more like $450 I believe.
Thanks!
current November 10th, 2008, 05:52 AM November 5
A construction worker said they will be going down five levels.
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Sid_toronto November 10th, 2008, 06:54 AM ha ha ha, looks like a giant man climbing over the hills
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current February 1st, 2009, 02:15 AM January 30
They are digging deeper. They are going five levels down.
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Spectator77 March 14th, 2009, 06:34 PM http://www.image-upload.net/images/cahaal3qv6m81f8jkohm.jpg
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Spectator77 March 14th, 2009, 06:36 PM the guy on the site said "the machine is broken" - that's why there was no activity going on, on a weekday. said it was fixed now and that activity would resume tomorrow...
CrazyCanuck March 14th, 2009, 06:54 PM That was a quick dig.
Mollywood March 14th, 2009, 07:50 PM A few months ago a friend of mine told me that he heard from a friend of his, who is a real estate agent, that this project was cancelled. I've been past here a few times and assumed that things just stopped but yesterday I was passing by and saw some hording down. The guys were busy digging away, so obviously my friend (and his real estate friend) was wrong. Rumors are flying around this town about almost every project on the market and almost all of them turn out to be false. I wish people would just give all the rumors a rest. Wait to see substantiated proof before spreading bull-shit.
They were busy digging away when I was by there yesterday.
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Taller, Better March 14th, 2009, 11:05 PM Well, methinks that some real estate agents cannot always be trusted for accurate information on their competitor's projects! ;)
Elkhanan1 March 15th, 2009, 03:15 AM That was one quick dig. I'm looking forward to this building though the fit-and-finish of TAS's buildings leave much to be desired, as evidenced by ZED Lofts. Hopefully there's been a learning curve and this building will end up looking much better. Thanks for taking and posting the pics.
current April 3rd, 2009, 11:59 PM March 29
Looking north.
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Bisonblight April 4th, 2009, 11:05 PM Looks like they are digging graves in the last photo.
Jasonzed April 8th, 2009, 02:28 PM To the left of the very tip of the CN Tower's shadow...
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Jasonzed May 11th, 2009, 12:09 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga1958.jpg
Marco Polo May 11th, 2009, 01:25 AM Thank you Jasonzed!!!
AndrewJM3D September 6th, 2009, 07:23 PM Taken August 2009 by MatrixElement on flickr.com
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Jasonzed September 13th, 2009, 12:54 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-2/09122009029.jpg
Jasonzed September 20th, 2009, 01:11 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-2/09182009a087.jpg
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Jasonzed October 5th, 2009, 12:20 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-2/10042009040.jpg
Elkhanan1 October 15th, 2009, 02:57 PM By MatrixElement on UT. October 10, 2009.
It's actually getting hard to take a picture now so many half-formed pillars and construction forms are popping up!
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It's actually getting hard to take a picture now so many half-formed pillars and construction forms are popping up!
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By drum118 on UT. October 11, 2009.
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In a month time, we will see it above the hording
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Jasonzed November 22nd, 2009, 10:33 PM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-2/20091122043.jpg
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Jasonzed December 5th, 2009, 11:39 PM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-2/20091205105.jpg
Sid_toronto December 6th, 2009, 05:13 AM thanks for the update, i like their 'watch us grow' sign.
Elkhanan1 December 6th, 2009, 05:19 AM 'Hood's getting super-dense and will become much more so in the years to come. Lots of projects moving forward in the area. Thanks for the pic.
Jasonzed December 20th, 2009, 11:11 PM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-2/20091220046.jpg
Jasonzed January 11th, 2010, 12:04 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100110038.jpg
Jasonzed January 20th, 2010, 04:45 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100119045.jpg
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Sid_toronto January 20th, 2010, 11:29 PM thanks for the update, i really like the location of this building.
UrbanPrincess February 2nd, 2010, 05:46 PM i love the floor plans for this building. It seems a lot more spacious than anything in CityPlace, however it does come with a nice price tag. My favourite unit is the MX2...that must be a cool million easily
Jasonzed February 14th, 2010, 03:04 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100213127.jpg
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Jasonzed February 21st, 2010, 11:09 PM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100221042.jpg
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Marco Polo February 22nd, 2010, 01:22 PM Thanks!!!
TheCanadianEuro February 25th, 2010, 05:18 PM Same compliment.
Jasonzed February 28th, 2010, 09:54 PM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100228089.jpg
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Jasonzed March 14th, 2010, 12:49 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100313081.jpg
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Jasonzed March 28th, 2010, 11:13 PM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100328086.jpg
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urbandreamer April 5th, 2010, 05:50 AM 4 April 2010: from beside the 8 Mercer Street site:
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isaidso April 5th, 2010, 07:09 PM Finally some vertical interest in this area.
Kensingtonian April 5th, 2010, 08:55 PM was this initially on the other side of the street? i wonder if they're still planning to use cold lake water to cool the building.
isaidso April 6th, 2010, 02:44 AM was this initially on the other side of the street?
No, but their presentation centre was down the street on the corner.
Jasonzed April 12th, 2010, 12:38 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100411112.jpg
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urbandreamer April 12th, 2010, 03:49 AM This building, like Lumiere, would look great if they would form a solid streetwall, perhaps 30 such massed buildings "wall to wall" on a street--with vibrant cafes etc at base.
valantino April 13th, 2010, 09:40 PM Yeah, this building needs partners because it looks really awkward and out-of-place as it is now. I think cafes would be a huge stretch for this scale. We could always use another furniture store.
dleung April 14th, 2010, 03:30 AM This building, like Lumiere, would look great if they would form a solid streetwall, perhaps 30 such massed buildings "wall to wall" on a street--with vibrant cafes etc at base.
The chunky massing seems to go up all 30 stories. You want dozens of them wall to wall on a street? Maybe only the north side of a east-west street for me, lol.
isaidso April 14th, 2010, 08:46 AM The chunky massing seems to go up all 30 stories. You want dozens of them wall to wall on a street?
Yes please! An imposing apron of buildings is one of the features of big north American cities that I love. I moved to a big city exactly in search of this kind of urbanity. If I want to be underwhelmed by the built form, I'll go north of Bloor. This is downtown!
Ramako April 14th, 2010, 06:11 PM Yes please! An imposing apron of buildings is one of the features of big north American cities that I love. I moved to a big city exactly in search of this kind of urbanity. If I want to be underwhelmed by the built form, I'll go north of Bloor. This is downtown!
He's from Vancouver. They don't have streetwalls there. Just towers in a par... I mean podium.
Taller, Better April 14th, 2010, 06:21 PM Me too! I love an intense urban setting, and walls of towers are part of that.
current April 14th, 2010, 11:58 PM April 12
M5V on the left, Lightbox Festival Tower in the centre, and boutique on the right from CityPlace.
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isaidso April 15th, 2010, 12:35 AM He's from Vancouver. They don't have streetwalls there. Just towers in a par... I mean podium.
I know, but I was trying to be diplomatic! :lol:
Jasonzed April 19th, 2010, 12:54 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100417a152.jpg
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Elkhanan1 April 19th, 2010, 01:43 AM Poor, overlooked, neglected Clarence Square. Hopefully some Section 37 money is coming its way from M5V, Charlie, Fly, and other nearby projects. Thanks for the pics, jz.
Taller, Better April 19th, 2010, 01:54 AM I'd like to horse-whip whoever's idea it was to stucco those Victorian rowhouses, but likely they are long gone by now
Elkhanan1 April 19th, 2010, 04:09 AM ^^You never know. There may still be some nice brickwork lurking underneath.
Taller, Better April 19th, 2010, 04:11 AM It is such a ghastly flat grey mess. I suppose it could be stripped off.
Elkhanan1 April 19th, 2010, 04:25 AM They should strip off the stucco and turn the bricks. They turned the bricks up at the Miller Tavern in York Mills for its renovation and it looks fantastic.
isaidso April 19th, 2010, 04:26 AM I bet those never come on sale. Not that I have liquid assets in the 7 figures. :(
Taller, Better April 19th, 2010, 04:38 AM They should strip off the stucco and turn the bricks. They turned the bricks up at the Miller Tavern in York Mills for its renovation and it looks fantastic.
You mean physically remove and turn each brick around? That would cost a fortune, wouldn't it? I wonder if there is another way to remove putrid stucco.
Elkhanan1 April 19th, 2010, 05:44 AM You mean physically remove and turn each brick around? That would cost a fortune, wouldn't it? I wonder if there is another way to remove putrid stucco.
Exactly. Physically turn each brick so that the undamaged inner face points outward. I imagine the brickwork's quite damaged under that stucco. That may have been the impetus for the stucco in the first place.
Taller, Better April 19th, 2010, 06:28 AM Draper Street is a bit to the west and just north of the existing City Park development, and is a superb little street of Victorian rowhouses facing each other. Each one has the name of the original owner on a little brass plaque at the front. One of them was a bartender at one of the old hotels! Anyhow... some of the units look a bit run down, and others have been spruced up, but WOW does it have potential.
Elkhanan1 April 19th, 2010, 12:08 PM I love Draper Street. Draper, Tranby (Annex), Bright (Corktown), Ottawa (Summerhill) and Marlborough Place (South Hill) are my favourite little streets in the city. (I wish I knew how to use Google Maps with Street View better!)
valantino April 20th, 2010, 11:40 PM The stucco tends to trap moisture in turning the brick to dust. Turning them around is likely pointless. The stucco job was possibly done in part to the brick being past its due date.
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current May 3rd, 2010, 08:27 PM Thank you for keeping us updated with all of your photos Jasonzed, your work is greatly appreciated. Looks like they are completing the "red" section shown in the original rendering:
Wonderful building!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/GeekyBoyTO/M5VLife.jpg
It looks similar to SP!RE, which turned out to a gorgeous building itself.
More recent rendering:
First posted by lazarus on UT:
http://i15.tinypic.com/82jhs0o.jpg
They've tinkered with the base, in addtion to some other refinements, and it looks much better now; has more street presence. This promises to be a great addition to the neighbourhood.
sammo May 3rd, 2010, 08:55 PM i predict i'm going to like this one.
-something pleasant about the playful subtle colour scheme and that bright crimson buckle happening midway. i hope the roof includes the glazed canopy. one of the renders has it, the other (lower one) doesn't.
Elkhanan1 May 4th, 2010, 11:34 AM ^^ First render, including the glazed canpoy is out; second render's in. They're just at the crimson box now in terms of construction. This one's going to be much taller than its neighbours.
dleung May 5th, 2010, 06:26 AM i hope the roof includes the glazed canopy. one of the renders has it, the other (lower one) doesn't.
Is there a rooftop deck or amenity to justify a canopy if there is one?
The chunky massing seems to go up all 30 stories. You want dozens of them wall to wall on a street? Maybe only the north side of a east-west street for me, lol.
Yes please!
To each his own I guess :sly:
?
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8610/hkskyscraperwall.jpg
I prefer this massing, but i'm just a hick who likes tower in the parks.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9602/manhattansetbacks.jpg
monkeyronin May 5th, 2010, 07:50 AM ^^ M5V's massing is much closer to that seen in the second image.
isaidso May 5th, 2010, 07:57 AM To each his own I guess :sly:
You've hand picked a repetitive, monotonous, banal example that suits your view point. You're fully aware that you did that. Do you think we're too thick to notice, or you're posting it any way even though we both know it's a poor rebuttal. Which is it?
Either way, this discussion has quickly become farcical. You'll have to do far better than that dleung. Then again, perhaps I'm giving you too much credit. Maybe you really believe that the Chinese example you posted is what a big imposing street wall has to look like? I'm inclined to believe that you did know better, but thought you could slip that one by and no one would notice.
It's border line :spam1:!
Elnerico May 5th, 2010, 11:11 AM I like this wall
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dleung May 5th, 2010, 07:45 PM You've hand picked a repetitive, monotonous, banal example that suits your view point
I was referring to the massing not the architecture/repetitiveness. I think we both prefer the manhattan style setbacks, just that you were a bit misleading by expressing the desire for a 30-storey street wall. The wall facing Central park is 10-12 stories.
isaidso May 5th, 2010, 10:02 PM I was referring to the massing not the architecture/repetitiveness.
You know very well that you purposely chose an example that wasn't appealing when there are lots of examples of it where it looks fabulous. You're doing it again. If you want to make an argument that people will take seriously, use fair examples otherwise you just come off looking like goofball.
The wall facing Central park is 10-12 stories.
Central Park is 10-12? So, now you're arguing that it wouldn't look good if those buildings were 30 floors? You either believe that to be true, or mentioning that those buildings are 10-12 floors is another pointless remark. Which is it? This is getting tiring.
Next I'll tell you I like the colour red, and you'll start posting pictures of red coloured vomit.
monkeyronin May 5th, 2010, 11:19 PM I was referring to the massing not the architecture/repetitiveness. I think we both prefer the manhattan style setbacks, just that you were a bit misleading by expressing the desire for a 30-storey street wall. The wall facing Central park is 10-12 stories.
Most of those buildings along 5th Ave. are more in the range of 15-20 stores, typically at least 15 stories of sheer wall before any setbacks. M5V has about 8-10 stories before a slight setback and then another 20 straight above that. So again, at least as far as massing goes, this isn't all that different from your Manhattan examples.
dleung May 5th, 2010, 11:23 PM @Isaidso:
It's not that complicated. I'm just saying that the streetwall (not buildings) along Central park won't look as good at 30 stories or more. I like watching Bladerunner; doens't mean I want to live in it. Anyways it's subjective; you're welcome to convince me otherwise by posting one of your "fabulous" examples.
@ monkey:
For all planning purposes, M5V is a full parcel extrusion all 30 stories. Nothing wrong with it, but i'm perplexed that people will want a contiguous wall of them.
urbandreamer May 6th, 2010, 03:01 AM 4 May 2010 update: I'd love to see a continuous wall of similar-massed buildings.
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9089/dsc03376q.jpg
sammo May 6th, 2010, 03:19 PM Toronto doesn't really have any dicernable 'wall of buildings' fronting some type of lower 'plateau' (whether it be greenspace/park or smaller/shorter biuldings). not even the start of a 'wall' -anywhere! -or do we?
we have apologetic 'clusters'; sad mishappen, mountainous tufts. that's our thing for now. :(
Elnerico May 7th, 2010, 05:10 AM I think king street does it.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=2396+Cape+Horn+Ave,+Coquitlam,+Greater+Vancouver+Regional+District,+British+Columbia+V3K+1J8&ll=43.649431,-79.376551&spn=0,0.002068&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=43.649459,-79.376419&panoid=at489O5RkJeRcwL10f9pGg&cbp=12,261.14,,0,-2.12
Taller, Better May 9th, 2010, 04:10 PM Uhmmm.. why do we need a "wall" of buildings?
valantino May 11th, 2010, 12:44 AM to hang billboard silly
sammo May 11th, 2010, 04:13 PM Uhmmm.. why do we need a "wall" of buildings?
:doh:
uhmmm, i'm gonna need a month to think about this!
...personal preference?
isaidso May 13th, 2010, 10:57 PM Uhmmm.. why do we need a "wall" of buildings?
Need? No one needs a wall of buildings. No one needs lots of subway lines either. It's a matter of desiring certain qualities in the built form.
urbandreamer May 13th, 2010, 11:10 PM There's a wall of buildings going up Avenue Rd to Lonsdale. McCaul has an ugly wall of buildings on the East side.
isaidso May 14th, 2010, 11:00 AM There's a wall of buildings going up Avenue Rd to Lonsdale. McCaul has an ugly wall of buildings on the East side.
A wall of buildings on Avenue Rd? And your point is? :weird:
McCaul has an ugly wall of buildings on the East side? Yes, it does. And your point is? :weird:
Taller, Better May 14th, 2010, 05:58 PM ** blink blink**
I guess the long and the short of it is the same conclusion we arrive at here every couple of months or so...
we are not Manhattan, and we feel crushed every time we run up against that cold, hard fact! :)
InTheBeach May 14th, 2010, 10:48 PM ^^ I'm not feeling so crushed by this fact. I prefer Toronto over Manhattan.
isaidso May 14th, 2010, 11:20 PM ** blink blink**
I guess the long and the short of it is the same conclusion we arrive at here every couple of months or so...
we are not Manhattan, and we feel crushed every time we run up against that cold, hard fact! :)
Some may feel crushed, but not I. My eyes just tend to get sleepy. :sleepy:
Taller, Better May 15th, 2010, 04:34 PM Ditch the decaf!! :D
isaidso May 16th, 2010, 01:04 AM Ditch the decaf!! :D
Alright.
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/smoke/snort.gif
That's better. You always have such wonderful suggestions.
Taller, Better May 16th, 2010, 06:53 AM I hate decaf. It is like dealcoholized beer. Why bother! :D
current May 16th, 2010, 10:47 PM May 15
The coloured glass is not as vibrant as it was on the sales office. Red on lower left and blue on lower right.
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Jasonzed May 17th, 2010, 12:31 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga-3a/20100516160.jpg
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current May 31st, 2010, 01:24 AM May 28
Curtain wall at the old sales office
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Colours are more vibrant because they are larger panels and they are backlit by sunlight.
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dleung May 31st, 2010, 05:45 AM I miss the days when buildings didn't have to try to be colourful.
isaidso May 31st, 2010, 06:31 PM I don't, it's long over due. We live in a northern nation with very long grey winters. We need all the colour we can get. Punches of vibrant colour, ever greens, and warm hues in building materials are all far more important in a country like Canada than they are in places like Mexico, Spain, or even the United States.
Our buildings should reflect Canadian society and Canadian realities, no one else's. Too often we simply import practices designed somewhere else with little regard to whether it makes sense here. This is a sign that we're starting to design for ourselves.
Taller, Better May 31st, 2010, 06:38 PM On the other hand, some colourful buildings that make sense in hot climates like Mexico or Italy look a bit out of place in a northern city. I think maybe the Faux le Mondrian trend has run its course in Canada, however...
isaidso May 31st, 2010, 06:42 PM Yes, we need to design for Canada rather than blindly importing. Regarding Mondrian. I don't want to see more Mondrian, as that's very specific, but I'm hoping the experimentation with colour is only at its infancy in this country. I'd prefer many many more buildings that used a strong colour palette. I'd be surprised if this was all the colour we saw and we went back to grey and beige.
Many people would be up in arm's, but I'd even welcome an entire building in fire engine red or yolk yellow. Not a skyscraper, but certainly a 4-5 floor building. The design would need to compliment that type of treatment though.
dleung June 1st, 2010, 02:31 AM Instead of colour for the sake of colour, I prefer the honesty of seeing the material's "natural" colour whenever possible. You can get red or maroon brick without adding in those awful mixers. Aluminum is silver. Wood should be stained, not painted. Concrete should never be painted! Some instances, steel needs to be painted anyway for protection so sure whatever colour works. Window mullions are painted anyway, so why is it almost always light grey or black? And then there's copper, bronze, and all sorts of fun stuff.
For me, I find buildings like Spectrum or Colours to be depressing, because what the random splahes of "vibrancy" do is highlight even more the reality of the other 95% of the building. Much rather have buildings that are colourful by nature of their materials throughout.
isaidso June 1st, 2010, 02:52 AM I appreciate raw material too, but calling colour 'dishonest' isn't really a suitable description. Everything in our modern society uses colour, why should buildings be any different? Besides, it's not as if I'm calling for the whole city to get painted. :|
Taller, Better June 1st, 2010, 03:32 AM I think it may be a West Coast thing... the affinity to natural colours. I do not care much for stained wood as an exterior material, personally, as it usually winds up being warped and grey within a number of years, but I know on the West Coast that weathered look is much loved. I'd much rather paint wood and do not consider that dishonest at all. I'm less keen on painted brick, however.
Elkhanan1 June 1st, 2010, 01:30 PM Many northern cities make great use of colour. No reason why Toronto couldn't do the same.
Saint Petersburg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2wg6cjp.jpg
http://stpetersburg-guide.com/images/pics/winterpalace.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/jk7ui1.jpg
http://www.planetware.com/i/photo/the-ehtnographic-museum-in-saint-petersburg-r393.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2hp66tk.jpg
http://www.wayfaring.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/st_peterburg1.jpg
Stockholm
http://i48.tinypic.com/1eanw8.jpg
http://www.ballet.co.uk/weblogs/galina/archives/Stockholm%20in%20the%20snow.jpg
Dresden
http://i48.tinypic.com/2exyrk0.jpg
http://famouswonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/dresden-frauenkirche.jpg
Taller, Better June 1st, 2010, 03:44 PM Still not a fan of painting buildings like a package of Smarties in northern climates. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. In the photos you have shown, I feel the simple unadorned structures (the townhouses) look good, and the ornate heavily decorated ones look garish. In my opinion toned down palettes would look better.
isaidso June 1st, 2010, 04:54 PM Strong colour can really brighten up a street:
http://cyanatrendland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/formosa-1140-1a.jpg
http://cyanatrendland.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/formosa-1140-1a.jpg
http://www.pix.gworks.nl/images/20090627161244_yellow.jpg
http://www.pix.gworks.nl/images/20090627161244_yellow.jpg
http://runninginpinkshoes.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/p3072521-thumb.jpg
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Taller, Better June 1st, 2010, 07:10 PM I think I like stronger colours better on simplistic, small buildings with flat planes. I don't like it on ornate structures as the line between "tasteful" and "tacky" is a fine one. Most people would be shocked to see beautiful white Greek temples with their original bright primary colours. But when it comes to 60 storey structures, I think one has to tread carefully. I remember a Spanish architect designed a highrise for Manhattan that was patchwork primary colours. People either loved it, or hated it. I absolutely hated it and so did a lot of Manhattanites as there was very vocal opposition to its.. "playfulness". I doubt if it ever got built.
Mollywood June 1st, 2010, 11:50 PM I miss the days when buildings didn't have to try to be colourful.
Yes, of course, we all know grey is the only colour allowed in Toronto. (Isn't it a law or something?) Imagine what might happen if we actually allow builders to use colours, other than grey. We might actually see people smile, which is so not us. A smile leads to glee, glee leads to laughter and who knows where that will all end? We must keep Toronto dull, grey, conservative and protected from anything that doesn't remind us of dark, grey, depressing winters. (which we all adore) Why can't every day be winter? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
AndrewJM3D June 2nd, 2010, 02:28 AM I like it, a bit of colour ads a bit of interest to the skyline. Not to mention when we live in a climate that is grey for about 4 months straight.
Post House
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d78/Archivistower/PostHouseR1.jpg
Fashion House
http://globizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/fashionhouse_render.jpg
isaidso June 2nd, 2010, 03:12 AM ^^ Nice, I didn't realize that Fashion House was going to have a splash of bright red. I'm smiling already! Plays off the red brick quite well.
Elkhanan1 June 2nd, 2010, 07:15 AM ^^ Nice, I didn't realize that Fashion House was going to have a splash of bright red. I'm smiling already! Plays off the red brick quite well.
It's not. They're just 'suggesting' fuschia curtains. The glass itself is clear.
Taller, Better June 2nd, 2010, 07:49 AM Looks nice in the render, but I wish it were the glass and not just a suggested window treatment. I also sincerely doubt that a window
treatment on the interior will give such a bright red appearance on the outside.
isaidso June 2nd, 2010, 06:30 PM It's not. They're just 'suggesting' fuschia curtains. The glass itself is clear.
Well that moment of elation was short lived. :(
Mollywood June 2nd, 2010, 08:03 PM Fashion House
http://globizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/fashionhouse_render.jpg[/QUOTE]
That picture is so misleading. There is no way red curtains will look like that. They make it seem like the building is actually red but sadly, it's just another fake rendering to sell a project. I was quite excited when I first saw it, as red is my favourite colour but this being Toronto, I was skeptical this would actually materialize. I hope things change one day and we get to see some eye-popping buildings. (the wilder, the better)
urbandreamer June 2nd, 2010, 08:10 PM The condo purchase agreement states red curtains will be in select suites facing outside; individual owners may add a second set facing indoors to suit their tastes. Red curtains will belong to the condo corp, not unit owners.
dleung June 3rd, 2010, 02:42 AM ^^whether the owner can access those red curtains (thus keep them open while using their own curtains) will be another issue =) The glass looks nice though, and I like the pattern on the concrete wall. The massing is extremely hostile to the existing building however.
Yes, of course, we all know grey is the only colour allowed in Toronto. (Isn't it a law or something?) Imagine what might happen if we actually allow builders to use colours, other than grey. We might actually see people smile, which is so not us. A smile leads to glee, glee leads to laughter and who knows where that will all end? We must keep Toronto dull, grey, conservative and protected from anything that doesn't remind us of dark, grey, depressing winters. (which we all adore) Why can't every day be winter? :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Thanks for trolling
ONE HUMAN June 3rd, 2010, 04:49 AM Thanks for trolling
Why are you talking to yourself?
AndrewJM3D June 3rd, 2010, 05:43 AM I happen to think the best way to build against an old structure is to ultra modern. The old and new contrast works extremely well as seen in the Distillery District.
http://www.blogto.com/upload/2009/09/20090924-Distillery-segways.jpg
AndrewJM3D June 3rd, 2010, 05:44 AM Why are you talking to yourself?
I actually laughed out loud at that post.
isaidso June 3rd, 2010, 07:18 AM I happen to think the best way to build against an old structure is to ultra modern. The old and new contrast works extremely well as seen in the Distillery District.
I'm a big fan of contrast as well.
sammo June 3rd, 2010, 05:50 PM ^yes, and i'm not sure there's a better, smarter way of interfacing old stuff with new.
Taller, Better June 3rd, 2010, 05:59 PM It certainly looks better to do that than to make a crappy attempt at copying the original.
AndrewJM3D June 3rd, 2010, 06:55 PM When I think of offensive massing, I think back to that terrible Berkeley Church proposal.
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/toronto/berkeley.jpg
Taller, Better June 3rd, 2010, 06:58 PM That was an absolute abomination. In my opinion the least sensitive design proposal I have seen in years.
Elkhanan1 June 4th, 2010, 04:34 AM That project on top of the church at Queen/Berkley will never go through. No worries. As for Fashion House, I hate to rain on everyone's parade but Freed is known for slick and ambitious designs that just don't measure up as executed. The fit-and-finish of his projects is often very, very poor. The latest controversy involves substandard workmanship at 75 Portland/Yoo Toronto. Freed seems to be brilliant at marketing; less so at building. There's no way Fashion House will emerge in real life as the glossy and seamless building depicted in the renders. Just saying.
valantino June 5th, 2010, 05:03 PM I have no complaints over Freed's completed project as I really couldn't care less on how they look on the inside. I doubt Fashion House will have the curtain wall as rendered although 550 does have some.
Elkhanan1 June 5th, 2010, 06:01 PM ^^ Actually, I was talking about the outside of his projects.
urbandreamer June 6th, 2010, 08:18 AM Lotsa bitching here. 5 June 2010: back to reality:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/492/dsc08709.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8881/dsc08711ri.jpg
Jasonzed June 13th, 2010, 01:56 AM http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100612146.jpg
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current June 19th, 2010, 10:28 PM June 17
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Elkhanan1 June 27th, 2010, 02:49 PM Posted on June 21, 2010 by interchange42 on UT.
From Panorama:
http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/PanoramaViewM5V.jpg
By cassius on UT.
Here's a couple pics from earlier today
http://gweeble.com/uploads/m5v-20100624-2_1277435370.jpg
http://gweeble.com/uploads/m5v-20100624-3_1277435380.jpg
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Taller, Better June 27th, 2010, 03:47 PM very, very nice...........
Elnerico June 28th, 2010, 03:56 AM it's growing! ahaha
Elkhanan1 July 8th, 2010, 08:54 AM By BobBob on UT.
From this past weekend:
http://urbantoronto.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=4426
Elkhanan1 July 10th, 2010, 12:44 AM By Mo-tage on UT.
Some shots I took this evening while I was playing with my new camera. Taken from my balcony at Montage.
As an aside, the Soho is finally starting to make sense to me, I used to think, man why did they build this thing way out in the middle of nowhere. But now with all the new development on the west side of the city, it feels like it's actually part of something.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4777858125_da218e70af_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4120/4777858461_e80ecba082_b.jpg
Amazing density in those shots!
Jasonzed July 11th, 2010, 01:59 AM ^^nice
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100710132.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii108/jasonzedd/Mississauga/20100710136.jpg
AndrewJM3D July 11th, 2010, 02:22 AM That Bisha chick is hot.
Jasonzed July 11th, 2010, 02:26 AM That Bisha chick is hot.
You are correct sir...
AndrewJM3D July 11th, 2010, 02:27 AM When are you going to move downtown already?
Elkhanan1 July 13th, 2010, 07:22 AM By caltrane74 on UT.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9600/sany1557.jpg
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