Eastern Europe has no other skyscraper city outside Warsaw.
Are you sure Warsaw has more skyscrapers than any other EE city?

^
He never said that;)

skyline is not about statistics...

skyline is not about statistics...

7t said that Warsaw is a skyscraper city - not a skyline city. Feel the difference.
I thought a 'skyscraper city' doesn't mean that a city has a good skyline, but a city has many tall skyscrapers.

What is a skyline city?:dunno:

What is a skyscraper city?:dunno:
And why Warsaw is a sckyscraper city but Moscow is not?

^^ Moscow is not coz it has not got them completed ... that is the only reasonable explanation. This will change forever in about 2-3-4 years

Better smaller :cheers: ...

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2867/pnnrc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


moscooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow :drool: :drool: :drool:

:applause:

p.s

:drool:

^^ What you're sick of such - best to become - skyline ?!

^^ Moscow is not coz it has not got them completed ... that is the only reasonable explanation. This will change forever in about 2-3-4 years
Correction - 3 towers are complete and already have offices inside, 3 towers are very close to completion (2 already have offices on some floors)!

moscooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow :drool: :drool: :drool:

:applause:

p.s

:drool:

Totally agree; it looks spectacular, but that's all. There's nothing beautiful to see in the picturers. It happens with a lot of big city-skylines, people seem to think the words spectacular and beautiful mean the same thing...

I thought I am a bit Russophobe although I have got my reasons to be so ... I'm sure you've got yours :nuts:... But some of you guys seem to be just … against Moscow no matter what ... or maybe just a bit jealous?! :crazy2: :lol:

I'm not against Moscow at all, it's a very interesting city. But I'm just not that fond of skyscrapers that look as if they could have stood anywhere in the world. They're just tall and spectacular for now, in 5 more years they might already look outdated... Besides I think both Moscow and Warsaw are creating areas in the city that are just not fun to walk in. It feels 'cold' between these skyscrapers. In my own city the first highrises were built in the early 1990's. They created a boulevard where people actually would like to walk in. What happened; all the buildings contain whether offices or apartments and the whole boulevard has nothing to offer for the pedestrian. Now the place is dead because nobody goes there. At night it's almost scaring to be there. I think the same will happen in Moscow and Warsaw..

Eastern Europe has no other skyscraper city outside Warsaw.
Warsaw has 5-6 skyscrapers.
Moscow has at least two times more.
All skyscraper are built.
This diagram doesn't include the skyscrapers from Moscow-city (Naberezhnaya 268 m and Federation Zapad tower 242 m)

If you call Warsaw a skyscraper city why don't you count Moscow?

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?31756759

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1118/moswarskyin6.gif

If you compare these two cities...

Moscow has to times more skyscrapers, but in Moscow live 12.000.000 people! In Warsaw 3.000.000 (I'm talking about the aglomerations). Are you sure you still want to compare these cities? All you told is just a statistic. The matter is, how a city looks (and I really don't think, that Moscow looks worse). But we have to remember, that everything is just a statistic ;)

By the way, I think, that if Warsaw is called a 'skyscraper city' (whatever it is), Moscow should be called a 'skyscraper city' too.

EDIT: This post is stupid, I have some problems with talking about anything, specially in english :D

If you compare these two cities...

Moscow has to times more skyscrapers, but in Moscow live 12.000.000 people! In Warsaw 3.000.000 (I'm talking about the aglomerations). Are you sure you still want to compare these cities? All you told is just a statistic. The matter is, how a city looks (and I really don't think, that Moscow looks worse). But we have to remember, that everything is just a statistic ;)

By the way, I think, that if Warsaw is called a 'skyscraper city' (whatever it is), Moscow should be called a 'skyscraper city' too.

EDIT: This post is stupid, I have some problems with talking about anything, specially in english :D
Warsaw had a head start ;)

I'm not against Moscow at all, it's a very interesting city. But I'm just not that fond of skyscrapers that look as if they could have stood anywhere in the world. They're just tall and spectacular for now, in 5 more years they might already look outdated... Besides I think both Moscow and Warsaw are creating areas in the city that are just not fun to walk in. It feels 'cold' between these skyscrapers. In my own city the first highrises were built in the early 1990's. They created a boulevard where people actually would like to walk in. What happened; all the buildings contain whether offices or apartments and the whole boulevard has nothing to offer for the pedestrian. Now the place is dead because nobody goes there. At night it's almost scaring to be there. I think the same will happen in Moscow and Warsaw..
What are you talking about? The IBC is not completed yet, of course there is no greenery in between the construction sites at the moment. :nuts:

I am certain that it will be a great place to hang out. In fact, in Moscow's IBC there will be a huge shopping mall, swimming and recreation complex + several residential towers. This will prevent the IBC from "dying out" in the evenings hence they have taken into account the experience of some Western IBC's (e.g. la Defense, where it is scary to walk in the evening) and have taken measures to prevent this phenomenon


I remember you clearly defined in the thread previously that by your definition the most beautifull skyline could easily be a mountain village in Afganistan - because it has beautiful mountains combined with a human settlement :crazy:

I'm not against Moscow at all, it's a very interesting city. But I'm just not that fond of skyscrapers that look as if they could have stood anywhere in the world. They're just tall and spectacular for now, in 5 more years they might already look outdated... Besides I think both Moscow and Warsaw are creating areas in the city that are just not fun to walk in. It feels 'cold' between these skyscrapers. In my own city the first highrises were built in the early 1990's. They created a boulevard where people actually would like to walk in. What happened; all the buildings contain whether offices or apartments and the whole boulevard has nothing to offer for the pedestrian. Now the place is dead because nobody goes there. At night it's almost scaring to be there. I think the same will happen in Moscow and Warsaw..

Its usually called ... The City. And its the same all over the world.

I'm not against Moscow at all, it's a very interesting city. But I'm just not that fond of skyscrapers that look as if they could have stood anywhere in the world. They're just tall and spectacular for now, in 5 more years they might already look outdated... Besides I think both Moscow and Warsaw are creating areas in the city that are just not fun to walk in. It feels 'cold' between these skyscrapers. In my own city the first highrises were built in the early 1990's. They created a boulevard where people actually would like to walk in. What happened; all the buildings contain whether offices or apartments and the whole boulevard has nothing to offer for the pedestrian. Now the place is dead because nobody goes there. At night it's almost scaring to be there. I think the same will happen in Moscow and Warsaw..
As for Warsaw most scyscrapers are in or near the city center so I highly doubt it would be "dead" ...

I remember you clearly defined in the thread previously that by your definition the most beautifull skyline could easily be a mountain village in Afganistan - because it has beautiful mountains combined with a human settlement :crazy:

Somebody else made a conclusion of what I said and exagerated that. So I stick here with what I said. The pictures are spectacular, but not beautiful or even special. Skylines like the ones we're about now can be seen all over the world... :)

Somebody else made a conclusion of what I said and exagerated that. So I stick here with what I said. The pictures are spectacular, but not beautiful or even special. Skylines like the ones we're about now can be seen all over the world... :)
Cmon dude, you were trying to prove that Sarajevo has a better skyline than Moscow or Warsaw just because of a few hills in the background!?

Cmon dude, you were trying to prove that Sarajevo has a better skyline than Moscow or Warsaw just because of a few hills in the background!?

True, but Sarajevo is just lucky with it's mountains. Still, I thing there's a whole world between beautiful and spectacular. In Sarajevo and Tirana all I see is warm colours. I don't see why it always shoud be the highest possible and the coldest possible colour, like in Moscow, Warsaw, Frankfurt, Rotterdam etc etc.

OK, both Tirana and Sarajevo have good reasons not to be as spectacular yet as other cities in Europe...

As for Warsaw most scyscrapers are in or near the city center so I highly doubt it would be "dead" ...

The boulevard I talked about was supposed to be an extension of the city center, with malls, a casino, luxurious shops. It is right next to the central station. Nowadays, both the city government and the developers admit the project was a mistake. When you look at the picture below, you can see that colours like black, grey and dark blue are most common in the area and I think this is just too inhospitable to attrack people. Especially in cold countries like the Netherlands, Poland and Russia, the choice for warmer colours should be more obvious....

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1904/weenazq2.jpg

in my opinion warm colours such as red or yellow are rubbish and that's why i don't like these albanian cities, i think that cold colours are more elegant

in my opinion warm colours such as red or yellow are rubbish and that's why i don't like these albanian cities, i think that cold colours are more elegant

They could come out as rubbish, but not necessary when done properly. In a masterplan for Tirana some beautiful warm-coloured highrises are proposed. The quality of that architecture is quite amazing... I really don't see the elegance of the cold towers in northern countries...

Towers St Petersburg and Moscow

St Petersburg - 46/62 floors complete
Moscow - 41/73 floors complete

http://i017.radikal.ru/0711/ad/0957bd7ad0fe.jpg
Photo by Igor

I thought I am a bit Russophobe although I have got my reasons to be so

Actually you don't. Unless the nation of Russia actually did something to you personally. And communism doesnt count as an excuse.

Well... not much of a skyline in that part of the city, just the Palace of the Parliament looming over everything else.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_THnurdp2pRk/Rt5QTdkpYII/AAAAAAAAAOM/gLiKkMD8ck4/s1600/1.JPG
http://bukresh.blogspot.com/

Actually you don't. Unless the nation of Russia actually did something to you personally. And communism doesnt count as an excuse.

It seems like a pretty damn good excuse to me

Prishtina:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/570353869_d15acf7eaa.jpg?v=0

Actually you don't. Unless the nation of Russia actually did something to you personally. And communism doesnt count as an excuse.

Apart from communism that “does not count” … Shooting my grandfathers – both!!!!? None died of Russian bullets luckily … Does stealing 1/3 of my county and sending most men to Siberia count?! Or maybe nicking Romania’s thesaurus (many billion $ in today’s money) and never return it?! Let’s leave it here as we’re way off topic. We can open another thread :) …

They could come out as rubbish, but not necessary when done properly. In a masterplan for Tirana some beautiful warm-coloured highrises are proposed. The quality of that architecture is quite amazing... I really don't see the elegance of the cold towers in northern countries...

I agree 100% with this observation
Glassy skyscrapers have lost their appeal long ago and in my opinion offer nothing in terms of architectual value, just an occupation of space.
They improve the quantity of a city's skyline but not necessarily its quality.
That's why fake cities like Dubai are not that appealing to me, they're doing today what New York and Chicago did 50 years ago.
An interesting city to me is a city that reinvents itself, it has its own distinct personality.

Actually you don't. Unless the nation of Russia actually did something to you personally. And communism doesnt count as an excuse.

See we do not hate you that much …



Romania to help rescue ships sunk in Kerch Strait www.chinaview.cn 2007-11-14 11:26:18

BUCHAREST, Nov. 13 (Xinhua) -- The Romanian Naval Authority responded on Tuesday to requests by Moscow to help rescue the ships sunk in Kerch Strait during a storm over the weekend.
The Russian naval authorities had asked for a 100-ton capacity floating crane in Kerch Strait to rescue the commercial ships sunk in the storm, said Adrian Alexe, director of Constanta Maritime Rescue Center.
"We responded promptly, as usual in such a situation, and offered the Gigant crane of the Aministration of Maritime Port Constanta," he said.
Several ships from Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Georgia and Greece sank or ran aground in the severe storm that hit the Azov Sea basin on Sunday. At least three seamen were killed and five remained missing. It was reported that a Russian tanker spilled about 2,000 tons of oil. Experts say that the pollution caused by the spills could linger for years.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/14/content_7071723.htm

I agree 100% with this observation
Glassy skyscrapers have lost their appeal long ago and in my opinion offer nothing in terms of architectual value, just an occupation of space.
They improve the quantity of a city's skyline but not necessarily its quality.
That's why fake cities like Dubai are not that appealing to me, they're doing today what New York and Chicago did 50 years ago.
An interesting city to me is a city that reinvents itself, it has its own distinct personality.

Couldn't have said it better... :cheers: A lot of cities are just copying, whilst for example Tirana and especially Bucharest follow their own architectural traditions. I really like how Bucharest combines new buildings with the ones that already existed in a 1+1=3 way. In Bucharest it was common before to have huge buildings built next to beautiful old churches or villas. That's what the city makes quite unique. I think another thread should be opened where quality vs. height or quality of architecture in different countries could be discussed. Even for Western European cities I think it would be good to look up to both cities I mentioned here. Unfortunately, people here still think they can't be beaten by countries like Romania and Albania. Concerning architecture (amongst other things) I think they couldn't be more wrong!!!

ATT tower from the Sarajevo golf club.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1289/1366221805_8890b688a4_b.jpg

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs21/i/2007/265/3/e/Bucharest_City_night_by_Andy17.jpg
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs22/i/2007/318/b/1/Bucharest__Simply__by_Andy17.jpg
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/182/e/2/Ghost_Vision_by_Andy17.jpg
http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/155/7/2/Construction_1_by_Andy17.jpg

Pictures from http://andy17.deviantart.com

Warsaw by Moozg:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/waw1811_06.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/waw1811_01.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/waw1102_04.jpg

Some news about Sofia:Two new skyscrapers will be built in the next 4 years including a 40-story office building and a new 15-story mall!The mall will be situated on the abandoned restaurant "Ropotamo" and will be completed in 2010!The other skyscraper is already in construction!It is situated near "Vazrajdane" plaza and it will be completed in mid 2009:banana:

^^ Warsaw in these photos looks like the quite different city, different than the one which we know from everyday life. The photo can a lot!

Well, it just depends on what you want to see. If you take a good point of view, everything's possible ;)

Moscow 2012-2013
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5823/mibcxo7.jpg

Ok, Moscow and Warsaw looks great but maybe enough of them? We've already seem their good progress on hundreds of photos. For me it is quiet boring to look at the same cluster from all angles/near places. In fact I didn't like skyscrapers of Warsaw which look like commy upgraded buildings. I liked other polish cities in fact. And in Moscow city 2 buildings are impressive but still not built. Also I liked opinion that this skyscrapers look american or maybe just like skyscrapers from US, Dubai, Asia. Globalisation ihas you :) It is now in EE too. Good that they still didn't spoil some cities, specially S-pb for me.

The fuck is wrong with American skyscrapers? Dude, have you seen the skyline of New York or Chicago? Or San Francisco, also helped by the SF bay area, Golden Gate and the mountains?:)

Moscow 2012-2013
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5823/mibcxo7.jpgWrong thread. This should be here I think. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=499765&page=8

In fact I didn't like skyscrapers of Warsaw which look like commy upgraded buildings
nonsense
For me it is quiet boring to look at the same cluster from all angles/near places.
There aren't many cities in EE which have really skyscraper (+100m) and really skylines. For You: Gdynia (Sea towers):
http://images32.fotosik.pl/48/f8c25fe15bb4f1df.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee7/vanaheim666/Inwestycje/stowers04.jpg
http://images23.fotosik.pl/111/69e1eadd1d90ff06.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5306/img0108lv5.jpg

that's really cool!I really like skyscrapers!Unfortuntely the highest building in Bulgaria is "Rodina" hotel which is a 30 story building

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3314/pohlad7vz6.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/475/pohlad6qe1.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9681/ba1ww4.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4763/mostkz9.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/107/pohlad10bh4.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/73/twincity33zh1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Bratislava_snow.jpg/800px-Bratislava_snow.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6042/dsc00126gj9.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8596/img3390bk8.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5530/img3375tl5.jpg

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7346/viennagate25gt7.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Bratislava_2007-11-26_07.jpg/800px-Bratislava_2007-11-26_07.jpg

^nice:)

New skyscraper for Warsaw - Prosta tower (126m):
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/4117/z4117375X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/4117/z4117376X.jpg
plot for Prosta tower:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1356/539271276_be1b547c01_o.jpg

Dnipropertrovsk at night from gorod.dp.ua
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2007/11/25/13926.jpg

Propesed and actually U/C skyscraper in Poland:
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/projekty/wieowce.jpg

^^wow... I've never seen this before... are there everything the most important skyscrapers planned in poland or You have omit something?

Zlota 44 residential ????????????????????? :bash:

^^ What's wrong with that?

Zlota 44 residential ?????????????????????
it's true.
http://www.zlota44tower.com/images/content/apartments1_1.jpg

it's true. http://www.zlota44tower.com/images/content/apartments1_1.jpg

sick, with those project here mate...sort out your staff and get off with project from this thread...:nuts:

it's true.
http://www.zlota44tower.com/images/content/apartments1_1.jpg

I do not deny its quality. It's just me: do not like the idea of residential skyscrapers

I don't like the idea of stupid commie-like or kitschy residential skyscrapers. Zlota is just great.:D

yeah... zlota 44 rocks:cheers:

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs16/i/2007/182/e/2/Ghost_Vision_by_Andy17.jpg

How tall is this tower?
It's just me: do not like the idea of residential skyscrapers
Zlota44 is nice this is terrible: proposed for 300m residential skyscraper in Warsaw:
http://www.kaps-architekci.pl/photo/20071018164202.jpg

Warsaw now:

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130095.jpg

and in 2012:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/wttwiev304.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/wttwiev307.jpg

How tall is this tower?
That Bucharest Financial Plaza, it's 83 m tall and it has 18 st. It's one of my favorite buildings in Bucharest, even though it's a bit old (1997) and we have taller towers now.:cheers:

yeah... zlota 44 rocks:cheers:

Yeah right, let’s wait and see the final finish. I wish you good luck … but usually most SS residentials have shitty cladding. Even in USA ...

That Bucharest Financial Plaza, it's 83 m tall and it has 18 st. It's one of my favorite buildings in Bucharest, even though it's a bit old (1997) and we have taller towers now.:cheers:

^^ Bad location though :bash: ...
http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/8257/111il3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Not if you ask me. I like the location.

Well ... we live in a free world ... http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=16405343&postcount=61

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=16403730&postcount=58

too many antenas...

wow, some Wroclaw proposed building are awesome. I like EXPO 2012 and tall buildings. If they will build those skyscrapers than Wroclaw will have awesome skyline (khm maybe better than Warsaw :) )

http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/photo/2007/10/29/975359.jpg

^^ That is very cool! :okay:

Kyiv from yandex.photo user chu-chate:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9/chu-chate.2/0_4d97_f7588b4_XL

Sofia
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1029/2076460728a2d44a5e9389bby7.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3827/20756734358f870512cb899zp2.jpg

Kyiv by user Феликсович:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/13/feliksovich52.5/0_5dbe_e96bf07c_XL

^^hdr rulezzz;)

On this foto Warsaw looks like Latin American city http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130095.jpg

Buenos Aires seems even richer, they have more antennas and airconditioners. :yes:
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/659/ka11tn1.jpg

^nice:)

New skyscraper for Warsaw - Prosta tower (126m):
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/4117/z4117375X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/4117/z4117376X.jpg
plot for Prosta tower:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1356/539271276_be1b547c01_o.jpg

nice :> a bit simillar to Sky Tower in Zagreb :okay:

On this foto Warsaw looks like Latin American city http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130095.jpg

you are lucky, you have many empty space around main cluster.

Zenica BiH

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/73/227715079_3708e05e23_b.jpg

^^ Splendid

you are lucky, you have many empty space around main cluster.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1130095.jpg
Yes We have, it's german's merit :lol:

that foto makes Warsaw look like a a big village

^^ because Wola district is like wild west. But in 2012 it will be new center of Warsaw:)

Yeah, lots of 200-300 m is gonna be bulit at the turn of the 2008-2012 in Warsaw.

I really like the Zenica picture:cheers:

Old Town and New Town in Kyiv by user Olya:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/olyamartynova1988.4/0_9baf_8196f867_orig

Warsaw
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6533/p1010047dh7.jpg
by Grubby

Commy blocks paradise. Welcome to 70s :nuts:

I agree, Warsaw has nice views.
What's the need to post such photos?

It's just Blok, he loves such views ;)

But seriously, all the buildings on the foreground are going to be demolished, maybe he find it interesting (I do!) ;)

Don't you, Blok? :)

Most of the post-industrial buildings are already demolished I found this picture quite interesting...

Bratislava by pt82

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9253/pan1ug1.jpg


http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3461/pan2dt3.jpg

Sarajevo


http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6499/sarajevoskylineyouthoc8.jpg

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/9176/slika097dc4pu2.jpg

^^ nice idea in the first one...

Moskva

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9594/n5586359571425343972403ce2.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9003/n59538009413230498453e4xq0.jpg

Bucharest ... May 2007

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1111/zzzma9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dnipropetrovsk:
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2007/12/12/14241.jpg

^^ nice skyline ...

^^Are you referring at Moscow, Bucharest or Dnipropetrovsk?

^^Are you referring at Moscow, Bucharest or Dnipropetrovsk?

Dnipropetrovsk ;) especially on this amazing skyline photo

Oh, I get it now.:lol: Yep, a "true" skyline photo!:D

Dnipropetrovsk ;) especially on this amazing skyline photo

Today only Warsaw and Moscow has a real skyline (in EE) and it could be a little boring to post only photos from this cities.

Oh c'mon Dniepropietrovsk's skyline doesn't look bad at all. Just check some photos posted earlier in this tread. Does any Polish or Romanian non-capital city have better skyline than Dniepropietrovsk at the moment? I don't think so.

^^ ^^
Dnipropetrovsk:
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2007/12/12/14241.jpg

It was this "skyline":nuts: in question ... relax

Ufa( Russia)


from bashkortostan.ru
http://i035.radikal.ru/0710/46/b222f17f3dbf.jpg
from bashtel.photo.cod.ru
http://i038.radikal.ru/0710/db/cf14ac23cc36.jpg
from fotoplenka.ruhttp://n.foto.radikal.ru/0705/80/a4a3114213f7.jpg



Volgograd(Stalingrad)

by wild_aby
http://i041.radikal.ru/0710/34/deb97bcddf16.jpg

http://i025.radikal.ru/0710/ae/388f81fad77c.jpg
http://i038.radikal.ru/0710/8d/0ccb6ee2e596.jpg


Kazan(Russia)


from fotki.yandex.ru
http://i034.radikal.ru/0710/08/1e0a7b748feb.jpg

Saratov(Russia)

Саратов
http://www.mysrt.ru/serge/lj/i/2007/saratov_panorama_from_october_gorge_900x450.jpg

Samara(Russia)


http://www.samara-photo.ru/images/467b81322f45f.jpg
http://www.samara-photo.ru/photo/id.10844.html



http://www.samara-photo.ru/images/465881ad8d6c6.jpg
http://www.samara-photo.ru/photo/id.8325.html

http://www.samara-photo.ru/images/462997f393dd9.jpg
http://www.samara-photo.ru/photo/id.5374.html

http://www.samara-photo.ru/images/460cd36c9860a.JPG
http://www.samara-photo.ru/photo/id.3419.html

http://www.samara-photo.ru/images/45fe5cb2582f5.jpg
http://www.samara-photo.ru/photo/id.2431.html[/QUOTE]

Russia is rising, well done Putin :lol:

SimCity again?:)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2168/2106711202_1b6d25b1c4_o.jpg

photo by markus1234

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and maybe not quite on topic but worth seeing IMO...:)
Skydiving in Warsaw at night
3_43z2Q0dek

Why are you hating on Dnipropetrovsk? It's skyline is as good as any in Sofia, Bucharest, Tirana or Sarajevo.

and maybe not quite on topic but worth seeing IMO...:)
Skydiving in Warsaw at night
3_43z2Q0dek

LOL, what a nutjob.

Why are you hating on Dnipropetrovsk? It's skyline is as good as any in Sofia, Bucharest, Tirana or Sarajevo.

Yes, it's right but Quicksilver photo showing just skyscraper not skyline.

Sarajevo

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1067/1361462348_0062bddfd3_b.jpg

Dnipro
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2007/12/12/14258.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2007/12/12/14257.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2007/12/11/14223.jpg

very nice. looks organized and neat

New addition to Warsaw Skyline - project developed by Zaha Hadid - 257 m!

http://www.dziennik.pl/files/archive/00034/fr_infa_nowy_wiezowi_34148g.jpg

Yes, it's right but Quicksilver photo showing just skyscraper not skyline.

I think it was statment here on this thread before that photos posted here shouldn't be aerial pictures (or pictures made from plane, etc) like few above but show the true angle people would see from the ground. On picture I've posted you can see 3 new hi rises just built in Dnipropetrovsk like you would see them from the ground (not like in Sim-city, refereeing to few pictures above). So why this picture of 3 new nice hi-rises is not a skyline?
Dnipropetrosk skyline is good as many Eastern European cities mentioned earlier.

New addition to Warsaw Skyline - project developed by Zaha Hadid - 257 m!

Great, but stop posting projects on this thread. There's a special thread for that.

Sankt-Pererburg (Russia)

Фотографии Питера с сайта http://aviaforum.ru
http://www.airliners.net/uf/536891494/1176843236TUShFU.jpg
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Давно ничего нового не было.
http://10f.ru/data/images/84370f6e769e3b007ac9549b7cb4496b141249_standart.jpg
http://10f.ru/data/images/1bcbb558a777009f298ac80f393a415f141248_standart.jpg
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/lontopic/3/Rodnik05/Rodnik05.jpg.



http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/fascade/pit06_fascade09.jpg

http://sturman.ometro.net/journ/ssc/fascade/pit06_fascade10.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/j/e/jelson/1/SouthGate203/SouthGate203.jpg
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/j/e/jelson/1/SeaCascade02/SeaCascade02.jpg
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http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/p/e/petrotopic/Monument/Victory03/Victory03.jpg

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http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11523-1/isak_09.jpg

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11525-1/isak_10.jpg

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11529-1/isak_12.jpg
http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11537-1/isak_16.jpg

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11547-1/isak_21.jpg

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11551-1/isak_23.jpg
[http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11561-1/isak_28.jpg

http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11563-1/isak_29.jpg
http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11569-1/isak_32.jpg
http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11707-1/fin_02.jpg
http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/11745-1/fin_21.jpg

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[QUOTE=Fenol;11988061]
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/lontopic/3/GavanPano03/GavanPano03.jpg
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/lontopic/3/GavanPano05/GavanPano05.jpg
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/lontopic/3/GavanPano08/GavanPano08.jpg
http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/jelson/2/Obuhov96/Obuhov96.jpg

http://foto.rambler.ru/photos/j/e/jelson/1/SeaCascade02/SeaCascade02.jpg
I like it but most of this new commies are rather ugly...

Moscow's super tall cluster without super talls yet :)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1310/10eo0.jpg

Warsaw again... but very nice picture:)
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/rondo-wcf-ic.jpg

^^nice... and boring

Moscow's super tall cluster without super talls yet :)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1310/10eo0.jpg

OMFG Fantastic progress :cheers:

Sofia

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4845/2111599438c47ba1920254daj2.jpg

Sofia, a much better shot:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4595/sofia1qn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I like it but most of this new commies are rather ugly...

We in Georgia could only dream of commies like that....

We in Georgia could only dream of commies like that....

Rulsan, we have been looking for forumers from Georgia. Are you Georgian?

Warsaw again... but very nice picture:)
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/rondo-wcf-ic.jpg

Awesome !!!

Moscow by Manicho from deviantart. The guy has some amazing skills, be sure to visit his gallery. http://manicho.deviantart.com/

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5443/moscow800ua1.jpg

Sunny Beach , Bulgaria

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1288/735060805_04852c33c0_b.jpg

Sofia, 10x to zzibit.:)


http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8438/355d77230ot2.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7623/3512d62edfxd9.jpg

Kyiv:
Central Part
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/kostik3000/19.jpg

Commies paradise in Kyiv by user Пятница from Dnipropetrovsk:
http://www.photoshare.ru/original/photoshare.ru-1072888.jpg
http://www.photoshare.ru/original/photoshare.ru-1072889.jpg

Rulsan, we have been looking for forumers from Georgia. Are you Georgian?
Well. I am from Abhazia but since we are still occupied by Georgia you can call me one.

Well. I am from Abhazia but since we are still occupied by Georgia you can call me one.

Occupied? Isn't it the other way around?

Well. I am from Abhazia but since we are still occupied by Georgia you can call me one.


cool...so I guess you want to be occupied by Russia then? or be independent? Smth like Montenegro...a rich sea resort for the filthy rich Russians:cheers:

http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/preview/2007/12/09/1003040.jpg"]http://http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/preview/2007/12/09/1003040.jpg[/URL]

http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/preview/2007/12/09/1003040.jpg

cool...so I guess you want to be occupied by Russia then? or be independent? Smth like Montenegro...a rich sea resort for the filthy rich Russians:cheers:
We are occupied against our will by Georgie (Goverment). While we can join russia free from our own will !!
Indeed our goverment has pushed towards integration into the Russian federation and the russian rouble (Georgian Lari sucks).

If you lived in the early 90's in Abhazia you would understand why we want to join Russia.

We are occupied against our will by Georgie (Goverment). While we can join russia free from our own will !!
Indeed our goverment has pushed towards integration into the Russian federation and the russian rouble (Georgian Lari sucks).

If you lived in the early 90's in Abhazia you would understand why we want to join Russia.

:ohno:

^don't act so silly Bandera. You don't know anything about our country.

PM me if you want a lesson.

We are occupied against our will by Georgie (Goverment).
I think what you are trying to say is that Abkhazia were occupied by Georgia but declared independence after the fall of USSR. But legally Abkhazia is sill part of Gorgia

http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/preview/2007/12/09/1003040.jpg

wow... where did u find this pic?

^don't act so silly Bandera. You don't know anything about our country.

PM me if you want a lesson.

Oh please :crazy2:

^don't act so silly Bandera. You don't know anything about our country.

PM me if you want a lesson.
...
actually Ukrainians may know what they are talking ago. They did the same mistake, you want to do now, few hundred years ago and they are still paying for this. It would be much easier for you guys to negotiate with the Georgians in ~ten years than with the Russians. I am guessing here though…

It would be much easier for you guys to negotiate with the Georgians in ~ten years than with the Russians. I am guessing here though…Why do you think it's easier to negotiate with the Georgians than with the Russians? What's the difference between the Russians and the Georgians to your mind?
PS Abkhazis experienced the war with the Georgians not long ago. I doubt Georgians have changed much since then.

Why do you think it's easier to negotiate with the Georgians than with the Russians? What's the difference between the Russians and the Georgians to your mind?

1. Russia is 100 times bigger than Georgia.
2. Georgia predends to belong to the West in the future.

...
actually Ukrainians may know what they are talking ago. They did the same mistake, you want to do now, few hundred years ago and they are still paying for this.

that would be interesting indeed if we would make decisions now based on the experiences from the 17th century:nuts:

...
actually Ukrainians may know what they are talking ago. They did the same mistake, you want to do now, few hundred years ago and they are still paying for this. It would be much easier for you guys to negotiate with the Georgians in ~ten years than with the Russians. I am guessing here though…
Kaski. We are already negotiating with them for many many years. Nothing achived. Only shootings and killed people among both sides (Abhazian separatist fighters are also acting very wrong though)
At least we get russian investment and russian tourists from Russia.
Tbilisi has not spent a singel penny into abhazia. All the money goes to Tbilisi and Batumi where new streets are being build and named after George.Bush

Warsaw morehttp://groundy.webd.pl/warszawa/Galeria/warszawa110.jpg

Warsaw 2007http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050822_z_bloku_odolanska/050822_z_bloku_odolanska_4608_cl.jpghttp://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050822_z_bloku_odolanska/050822_z_bloku_odolanska_4611.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/panoramy/050123_z_bloku_mo_panorama_centrum.jpg

Warsaw - ugly as always :lol:

Edit: Maybe not always, but in the winter landscape it sux much :/ Plus the photos are kinda old :]

Warsaw - ugly as always :lol:

Edit: Maybe not always, but in the winter landscape it sux much :/ Plus the photos are kinda old :]

In Autumn looks better :)


ps. Drive, przeglądaj wątki conajmniej z 4-5 stron do tyłu.

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2737/skylinemt7.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/071223_z_bloku_warecka/071223_z_bloku_warecka_8126.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/071223_z_bloku_warecka/071223_z_bloku_warecka_1130.jpg
http://http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3374/skyl2sr3.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1350/dsc855301pi2.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2269/2035164948_9b1d9c3e65_o.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7900/gallery36364305we0.jpg

Commies paradise in Kyiv by user Пятница from Dnipropetrovsk:
http://www.photoshare.ru/original/photoshare.ru-1072888.jpg
http://www.photoshare.ru/original/photoshare.ru-1072889.jpg

Did you ever saw Petrzalka in Bratislava?:lol:It´s biggist commie city in central europe.Population is about 150 000 ,but there is projec with 40 000 new flats proposed on south part of Petrzalka.

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/panoramy/050123_z_bloku_mo_panorama_centrum.jpg

OOO ! Warsaw is the best splendid city of the Europe !!

^^ Even with all the scars the USSR has wreaked on it, it's still one of the nicest in EE.

and that pano is pretty outdated.

^^ Even with all the scars the USSR has wreaked on it, it's still one of the nicest in EE.


What scars are you talking about? Palacz?

^^^ here we goo again, here here we go agaiiiin :D

Moscow

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/11/yarikch.9/0_491f_a35eb80_orig
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4939_b086b34d_orig
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4937_6adc8382_orig
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4938_5d2e7c3e_orig
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4916_64c2b59a_orig
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/1035/cimg2984uv0.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4939_b086b34d_orig
a bit asiatic but for russia it could be much worse:ohno:I like the glass

I miss the times of Best of EE! :(

I miss the times of Best of EE! :(

Well then bring it back.

a bit asiatic but for russia it could be much worse:ohno:I like the glass
Idiot:bash:

that would be interesting indeed if we would make decisions now based on the experiences from the 17th century:nuts:

The Chinese are happy about gaining experience from 5000 years of history and they are doing quite decent lately, as a whole I mean. There are some things about people and politics that do not change this much.

Kaski. We are already negotiating with them for many many years. Nothing achived. Only shootings and killed people among both sides (Abhazian separatist fighters are also acting very wrong though)
At least we get russian investment and russian tourists from Russia.
Tbilisi has not spent a singel penny into abhazia. All the money goes to Tbilisi and Batumi where new streets are being build and named after George.Bush

It was always a strategy to flirt first, then to have a honeymoon (short usually), and showing the real self just afterwards. I guess the Russians are flirting with Abhasia now, and what will come, when they will achieve their goal of weakening Georgia, one can only guess. I doubt they will care this much. I might be wrong though, maybe you will become a resort indeed, still you will be a periphery for ever, and I guess people from Caucasus can be threaten not this nice in main Russia anyhow.
Abhasia is in bad situation indeed. The Georgians are small, struggling country right now, so they may be nasty. Sure it’s complicated, and sure the Russian choice seem more stable for now, if you prefer to be a completely meaningless part of a big, what one can do...
I am sorry for you guys, but I guess you are more brothers with Georgians than with Russians though. We have a saying that the worst arguments are in family :ohno:

Idiot:bash:

too much vodka?:ohno:

The Chinese are happy about gaining experience from 5000 years of history and they are doing quite decent lately, as a whole I mean. There are some things about people and politics that do not change this much.


so what kind of relations would Poland and Ukraine have now if we follow your advice and choose to learn from experience? What would 17th century teach us in this respect?

so what kind of relations would Poland and Ukraine have now if we follow your advice and choose to learn from experience? What would 17th century teach us in this respect?

It’s simple I guess, and Ukrainians now it. Poland is only part of the West now. Ukrainians have got their lucky chance to split from Russia, and if they want to stay Ukrainian, they need to strengthen their independence from Moscow. They should not go for short-term economical benefits offered by Russian oil industry, but get closer to the West. They should not be afraid of the West and NATO as they were centuries ago afraid of Poland, as it’s clear that western culture can strengthen them politically and economically.

^^ well, I obviously disagree with your assessments, but I won't continue arguing here as it's too much offtopic already

^^ well, I obviously disagree with your assessments, but I won't continue arguing here as it's too much offtopic already
I guess too much OT, but what a hell...:) I still believe that even regardless big politics, living in EU country is more tempting that is Russia in ~20 years, unless you feel Russian. In this case, it is another story.
This is the Ukrainian choice right now. There is no other way I am afraid. This is another lesson learned from the past. The longest you will be indecisive the worst it will be. Poland tried to balance between the West, Germany and Russia before WW2, and the end was most miserable… One may say different times, no killing now, but still
:cheers:

I guess too much OT, but what a hell...:) I still believe that even regardless big politics, living in EU country is more tempting that is Russia in ~20 years, unless you feel Russian. In this case, it is another story.
This is the Ukrainian choice right now. There is no other way I am afraid. This is another lesson learned from the past. The longest you will be indecisive the worst it will be. Poland tried to balance between the West, Germany and Russia before WW2, and the end was most miserable… One may say different times, no killing now, but still
:cheers:

I'll PM you regarding this :)

Vilnius

http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20071227/DSC_0033.JPG

Wroclaw skyline:
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/191/191511.jpg
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/191/191510.jpg
http://www.panoramy.wroclaw.pl/obrazy/211645KatedraSW300607_4934_46Web.jpg
http://www.panoramy.wroclaw.pl/obrazy/105953MostGrunwaldzki250807_5378Web.jpg

Wroclaw skyline:
where:dunno:

There are a many photos of ukrainian, bulgararian etc cities which skyline with a few chimneys and churches. So what's wrong?:D

a bit asiatic but for russia it could be much worse:ohno:I like the glass

I see this is regular appartment s building. Unfortunatelly we have not even like this . Arhitecture of civil building is in deep crises in Poland now. Some interesting projects is still in project a lot time. Built blocks is ugly and with cheap materials,no new ideas. Some is not better than in communist era ( and even worse ) Is this european level ? If yes - I ll choice asiatic

http://domdevelopment.pl/uploads/images/inwestycje/olbrachta-zdjecie2.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/2778/z2778909G.jpg
http://images6.fotosik.pl/97/7895fa8ffdb2d05c.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070403_z_bloku_topiel/070403_z_bloku_topiel_7212.jpg
http://sitol447.republika.pl/bazantarni1.JPG
http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Ursynow/Ghandi_Plaskowickiej/2007_02_03_-_02_-_Warszawa_-_ul_Ghandi_-_Olimpia2.
http://www.fotodom.pl/zdjecia/vtsyobuojqqkhlxzaevt.jpg
http://lorenc.republika.pl/tmp/ursynow/domy/22.JPG
http://images29.fotosik.pl/73/7f85b144376c78d8med.jpg
http://lorenc.republika.pl/tmp/ursynow/3/14.JPG

Warszawa - new appartment s buildings

its thread about skylines, not new investments

Some is not better than in communist era
Theres nothing wrong with simple elegant buildings made in PRL '90 were terrible:ohno: but it's slowly getting better as for russia not long ago it was total disaster I like some of their newer projects that look european but most of "regular" projects there have no architectural value:ohno:

@Drive następnym razem użyj opcji prywatnej wiadomości "PM" zamiast spamować i na Peruna! musiałeś tam wrzucać tego nieszczęsnego Strusia?To nie jest reprezentatywny przykład:ohno:Nie mam pojęcia co ci się tak nie podoba w tych budynkach brak skośnych daszków i styropianowych ozdób ala dworek szlachecki? Każdy ma prawo do własnego zdania ale tobie wyraźnie brakuje gustu.

"Looking European" - sounds like part of some inferiority complex by OWT-75. Anyways, most of the glassy buildings look American more than they look European

^^thats because you see them only in american movies:)

as for russia not long ago it was total disaster ... most of "regular" projects there have no architectural value:ohno:And do new buildings in the post 924 have an architectural value?

And do new buildings in the post 924 have an architectural value?
Most of them have some value especially:
http://images6.fotosik.pl/97/7895fa8ffdb2d05c.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070403_z_bloku_topiel/070403_z_bloku_topiel_7212.jpg
If modern russian architecture looked like that I would love Moscow...

This samples of new buildings is primitive and ugly.If this built in Poland that not change its into arhitectural value. Open your mind-not will be funny !! :bash:

This samples of new buildings is primitive and ugly.If this built in Poland that not change its into arhitectural value. Open your mind-not will be funny !! :bash:

ok.... now drink some tea:hug:

^^ For the future, your arrogance is not welcome here

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4939_b086b34d_orig

It's not that bad but the top ruins it.
The same situation here :

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4916_64c2b59a_orig

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9669/0491931048574origif8.jpg
:ohno::ohno::ohno:

Most of them have some value especially:
http://images6.fotosik.pl/97/7895fa8ffdb2d05c.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070403_z_bloku_topiel/070403_z_bloku_topiel_7212.jpg
If modern russian architecture looked like that I would love Moscow...

It's a fucking horrible piece of shit, not an architecture

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/10/yarikch.9/0_4939_b086b34d_orig

It's not that bad but the top ruins it.


Better than any shit you build in Poland.

Hey, guys! Why is all this for??

It`s not Russia vs Poland forum! :ohno:

Calm down please! :)

Calm down please!
we are calm too bad some russian forumers can't discuss normaly like civilised people:ohno:

It's a fucking horrible piece of shit, not an architecture

so you don't like european architecture ?

so you don't like european architecture ?
If Poland is in Europe it does not automaticly make shitty commieblocks you build a pinnacle of european architecture.

http://images6.fotosik.pl/97/aca01fa104c9fade.jpg
oh how shitty:ohno:...

It's a fucking horrible piece of shit, not an architecture

Chill out man, do you really have to express your opinion in that way?...
Wasn`t be more polite to say that you don`t like it and it`s ugly or something?...
Come on... respect each other...
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and Drive
wrong thread... it shouldn`t be here...

^^ He dosent know how to respect others!

we are calm too bad some russian forumers can't discuss normaly like civilised people:ohno:
You are the one that started insulting Moscow's architecture and when somebody told you off you called them drunk or something, how immature. Behave yourself

You are the one that started insulting Moscow's architecture and when somebody told you off you called them drunk or something, how immature. Behave yourself

Yeah, let's :cheers:
Helsinki sucks anyhow :)

Lets be a nice big EE family, sometimes family members argue but in the end they still love each other :hug: :)

Katowice, Upper Silesia (Poland). 314 784 inhabitants. 40 skyscrapers already build and 20 skyscrapers in project/on-hold/proposed

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9561/katowicefv2.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/Inne/wizka2.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/oio154/1028108991_d5d1c24279_b.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/lucek78/P1110107.jpg?t=1187639154

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i161/Depress_Wist/DSC_0003ed3.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/prosimpozor/katoinaczej/SK4724blur-1.jpg

You are the one that started insulting Moscow's architecture and when somebody told you off you called them drunk or something, how immature. Behave yourself

only modern architecture from '90 and now it was my honest opinion....

Better than any shit you build in Poland.Moscow also builds commieblocks without 'architectural value' now, but they are much more modern than those which were built 40-50 years ago and are being demolished now.

40 skyscrapers...

Where??!

Most of them have some value especially:
http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070403_z_bloku_topiel/070403_z_bloku_topiel_7212.jpg
If modern russian architecture looked like that I would love Moscow...
Do you really think this is a piece of art?
We have panel khrushovkas (5 stories commieblocks) that are being demolished now. If they were painted white instead of being demolished they would look like the buildings you posted :)

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3702/5etuf5.jpg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BxlOXq8cnCA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ghHYhZUysDE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=orN5fWrm9Z0

Moscow also builds commieblocks without 'architectural value' now, but they are much more modern than those which were built 40-50 years ago and are being demolished now.

Modern? If Shanghai is synonym of modern city to you...

Do you really think this is a piece of art?
We have panel khrushovkas (5 stories commieblocks) that are being demolished now. If they were painted white instead of being demolished they would look like the buildings you posted
So this buildings could be nice if you take care of them... and it was Driver who posted it:)

Where??!

:lol:I guess he thinks that 50 meter tall,ugly commies are skyscrapers.

:lol:I guess he thinks that 50 meter tall,ugly commies are skyscrapers.


Delfin_pl is jelaous because in his city are only 3 scrapers from 60's
40 skyscrapers has got more than 60 metres but You're got right, few of theirs are commieblocks.
Most of Katowice's skyscrapers You can see Here (www.wiezowce.katowice.pl)

Moscow also builds commieblocks without 'architectural value' now, but they are much more modern than those which were built 40-50 years ago and are being demolished now.
But we are not runnig around all the forums telling everyone that our commieblocks are a pinnacle of european architecture.
And to say that "Kutuzovskaya Riviera" complex have less 'architectural value' than those modernised "krushovka's" in Poland is a complete insanity.

^^It could be better if not the asian top's

Delfin_pl is jelaous because in his city are only 3 scrapers from 60's
40 skyscrapers has got more than 60 metres but You're got right, few of theirs are commieblocks.
Most of Katowice's skyscrapers You can see Here (www.wiezowce.katowice.pl)

actually I'm not jealous of some ugly commies in Katowice, we have more than 3 highrises - horyzont, witawa, redlowski stok, and 138m sea towers, nothing like this in Katowice and also many more towers approved. and don't call 60 meters commie skyscraper :lol:



A/ Wiezowce istniejace :

. Organika, 98 m / 80 m do dachu, 20 kondygnacji, Gdansk Srodmiescie (1980)
. CTO, 'Zieleniak', 90 m / 72 m do dachu, 17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Srodmiescie (1967)
. Mercure Hevelius (Orbis), 87 m / 70 m do dachu, 19 kondygnacji, Gdansk Srodmiescie (1979)
. Budynek mieszkalny, 'Leborska 21', 60 m, 19 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (1979)
. Budynek mieszkalny, 'Chlopska 7', 60 m, 19 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (1980)
. Olimp, 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Wrzeszcz (1972)
. Redlowski Stok (IK), 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdynia Redlowo (2002)
. Witawa (Allcon&Ekolan), 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdynia Witomino (2002)
. Horyzont I (Ekolan), 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2006)
. Horyzont II (Ekolan), 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2006)
. Horyzont III (Ekolan), 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2006)
. Redlowska Kaskada (Allcon), 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdynia Redlowo (2006)


Ilosc wiezowcow - 12
Suma wysokosci - 780 metrow
Srednia wysokosc - 65 metrow



B/ Wiezowce w budowie:

. Sea Towers (IK), wieza A [poludniowa], 138 m / 116 m do dachu, 36 kondygnacji, Gdynia Centrum (2008)
. Sea Towers (IK), wieza B [polnocna], 93 m (?) / 91 m do dachu, 28 kondygnacji, Gdynia Centrum (2008)
. Marina Primore (Hossa), 'Karawela', 55 m, 19 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2008)
. Bretowska Brama (Inpro), 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Wrzeszcz (2009)
. Trzy Zagle (Inpro), budynek B, 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2009)
. Budynek mieszkalno-uslugowy (IK), 60 m, 20 kondygnacji, Gdynia Redlowo, (2009)



C/ Wiezowce do realizacji:

. Brama Wolnosci (Labaro) I, 220 m , 62 kondygnacje, Gdansk Srodmiescie / Mlode Miasto (2010)
. Brama Wolnosci (Labaro) II, 175 m , 50 kondygnacji, Gdansk Srodmiescie / Mlode Miasto (2010)
. Marina Primore (Hossa), 'BigBoy', 202 m, 51 kondygnacji (?), Gdansk Przymorze
. Centrum Stocznia, biurowiec (TK), 100 m, Gdansk Srodmiescie / Mlode Miasto
. Centrum Stocznia, apartamentowce (TK), 2 x 94 m, Gdansk Srodmiescie / Mlode Miasto
. Biurowiec (Jacob Gerhardt), 55 m, Gdansk Wrzeszcz / Nowe Szkoty
. Trzy Zagle (Inpro), budynek A, 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2010)
. Trzy Zagle (Inpro), budynek C, 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze (2011)
. Quattro Towers (Hines), 4 x 55 m, 16 kondygnacji, Gdansk Wrzeszcz
. Central Park (Hossa), 8 x 55 m, 17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Piecki-Migowo
. Budynek mieszkalny (Panorama), 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Orunia / Stare Szkoty
. Hanza Business Park (Elektromontaz), 3 x 54 m, 15 kondygnacji, Gdansk Stogi / Przerobka
. Baltic Center (Polnord), 5 x 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze
. Budynki mieszkalne (E.Leclerc), 6 x 55 m, 18 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze



D/ Wiezowce planowane:

. Baltic Towers, 100 m , 25-30 kondygnacji, Gdynia Centrum
. Wieza mieszkaniowa, powyzej 55 metrow, ul.Obroncow Wybrzeza 19a, Gdansk Przymorze
. Wysoka zabudowa (biurowa, hotelowa), ??, al.Grunwaldzka 470 + 472, Gdansk Oliwa
. Biurowiec (IK), 'Motlawa Apartments', 70 m (?), Gdansk Srodmiescie
. Hotel, 55 m, 15-17 kondygnacji, Gdansk Przymorze/Brzezno
. Biurowiec (Hossa), 100 m (?), Gdansk Wrzeszcz
. Apartamentowce (Afik haYarden) , 4 (?) x 175 m (?), 50 kondygnacji (?), Gdansk Brzezno
. Wieza apartamentowa (IK), ??, Trojmiasto
. Drapacze (Dalmor), ??, Gdynia Centrum
. Drapacze (Trigranit), 4 x 1** m (?), 30-50 kondygnacji (?), Gdynia Centrum / Miedzytorze
. Mlode Miasto, wysoka zabudowa mieszkaniowa, ??, Gdansk Srodmiescie
. Biurowiec (Prokom), 80 m (?), 20 kondygnacji (?), Gdynia Centrum
. Budynek mieszkalno-uslugowy (Hossa), 55 m (?), 17 kondygnacji (?), Gdynia Centrum
. Budynki mieszkalne, 55 m, ul.Piekarnicza, Gdansk Piecki-Migowo

Moscow and Warsaw rules ! :D Two great skylines ;)

MOSCOW

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4981/city5vf0.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5162/1506201927771e6a49deoho0.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2383/1669891735_4446f70834_o.jpg

http://photos.streamphoto.ru/0/4/7/16a644c56adf31b860c35dc8a93b3740.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5/go131.0/0_6b85_c2aaf289_orig

and WARSAW

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/14/46/download/797130.jpg

http://plfoto.com/zdjecia/679137.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_03_06_Warszawa_panoramy/2007_03_06_-_002_-_Warszawa.jpg

http://www.warsawtour.pl/files/foto_big12643950091091519623182_tapeta.jpg

haha you guys from katowice are so excited about those shitty "skyscrapers"
maybe in future your skyline will be nice but now it's a crap, just plenty of the commies, and i think that people from triocity should be happy that their cities are not so ugly as yours

actually I'm not jealous of some ugly commies in Katowice, we have more than 3 highrises - horyzont, witawa, redlowski stok, and 138m sea towers, nothing like this in Katowice and also many more towers approved. and don't call 60 meters commie skyscraper :lol:

But Horyzont, witawa and others are less than 60 metres... Stalexport Towers, Chorzowska 50, Altus, DOKP, Wojewódzki, RMF FM are commieblocks?
And - is Horyzont more beautiful than Kukurydze or other residental buildings in Tauzen district?

haha you guys from katowice are so excited about those shitty "skyscrapers"
maybe in future your skyline will be nice but now it's a crap, just plenty of the commies, and i think that people from triocity should be happy that their cities are not so ugly as yours

In Opole the highest building has got 14 floors...
Where can You see this commies - I can see only Superjednostka and Haperowiec, in Tauzen residental buildings aren't commieblocks.

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For me the best skyline in East Europe is Warsaw, second is Moscow and third are ex aequo Praha and Bucarest.
Outside capitals the best is Dniepropietrowsk, second is Katowice and third is Poznań.

http://www.wiezowce.katowice.pl/images/pan12.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Panorama_Katowic_o_zachodzie_s%C5%82o%C5%84ca.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4981/city5vf0.jpg

^^It's weird how sometimes a skyline looks best with buildings under construction, than when it's all done and finished

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For me the best skyline in East Europe is Warsaw, second is Moscow and third are ex aequo Praha and Bucarest.
Outside capitals the best is Dniepropietrowsk, second is Katowice and third is Poznań.
:cheers: :okay:

^^ :lol::lol::lol: a little exaggeration

Katowice, Upper Silesia (Poland). 314 784 inhabitants. 40 skyscrapers already build and 20 skyscrapers in project/on-hold/proposed

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9561/katowicefv2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/lucek78/P1110107.jpg?t=1187639154
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb150/oio154/1028108991_d5d1c24279_b.jpg

ok so at the first two picture there are 2-3 skyscrapers which are not a commies and you are right there not just a commies
at the 3rd picture i see none skyscraper but nice shot though

In Opole the highest building has got 14 floors...
Where can You see this commies - I can see only Superjednostka and Haperowiec, in Tauzen residental buildings aren't commieblocks.
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i've never said that opole is the city of the big buildings, am i jealous??
no because opole is a small town and i don't see any need to build there any skyscraper, so i don't know why you wrote it

and i would like to ask why Tauzen isn't a commieblocks district ??

For me the best skyline in East Europe is Warsaw, second is Moscow and third are ex aequo Praha and Bucarest.
Outside capitals the best is Dniepropietrowsk, second is Katowice and third is Poznań.


i think that istanbul is the best out of capitals
and vilnius, bratislava and kiev got better skylines than prague and bucarest IMO

Wow :cheers:



http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5162/1506201927771e6a49deoho0.jpg

http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/photo/2007/08/07/910368.jpg

Moscow

^^What's the need to post half a year old pic of Moscow-city?
2 skyscrapers are 30 floors taller now.

i've never said that opole is the city of the big buildings, am i jealous??
no because opole is a small town and i don't see any need to build there any skyscraper, so i don't know why you wrote it

and i would like to ask why Tauzen isn't a commieblocks district ??

In my opinion:

commieblocks
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/s/sitak/06/billa.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6942/p7214847yn0.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3663/0005187ey9.jpg

Tauzen
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/4084/z4084125X.jpg
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/4084/z4084138X.jpg

But - stop this off-topic

In my opinion:

commieblocks
so in your opinion commieblocks can't look nice ?:crazy::ohno:

^^What's the need to post half a year old pic of Moscow-city?
2 skyscrapers are 30 floors taller now.

Brad -я шлю фото показывающие красоту города -для тех кто каждый день подсчитывает построенные этажи имеются другие треды !
Если бы мы все слали сюда действительно качественные фото то не плелись бы за восточн соседями которые имея всего шесть семь не очень то качественных высоток -но преподнося их на отличных фото -опережают нас по рейтингу до сих пор -

What about Płock?:D
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/kombinat_0208_01.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/4084/z4084125X.jpg

that are commieblocks for sure :cheers:

http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/photo/2007/08/07/910368.jpg

Moscow

I love that Citylights :)

What about Płock?:D
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s173/moozgpeople/skyscraperfoto/kombinat_0208_01.jpg

:applause: Beautiful.

^^

Yeah, It`s awesome! :)

I don't wan't to insult etc, but russian new apartaments looks allmost the same like old commieblocks!.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/49/40341352yz6.jpg

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/49/40341352yz6.jpg

WoW, where is that? Is it from EE? :cheers::banana: Moscow or Warsaw?

WoW, where is that? Is it from EE? :cheers::banana: Moscow or Warsaw?

4 me looks lie an istambul

Istambul ;)

Istambul ;)

thanks :)

WoW, where is that? Is it from EE? :cheers::banana: Moscow or Warsaw?

You don't rocognize Istanbul from Moscow or Warsaw ? Shame on you.... :)

Istanbul skyline is just perfect. Definitly one of best in Europe.
(I am sorry, i thought it is Warsaw):cheers:
shame on you pt82, you crazy drunk bastard

Well, I think nowadays it's the best skyline in EE just before Warsaw/Moscow and one of the best in whole Europe, but I think it will be very hard to keep this position, Warsaw/Moscow have many great projects on the next 5-10 years...We'll see...

http://img-2007-11.photosight.ru/19/2418577.jpg
http://img-2007-12.photosight.ru/03/2441119.jpg

^^
Great city! :)

Moscow -iternal skyline

http://img-2007-09.photosight.ru/26/2321972.jpg

http://img-2007-11.photosight.ru/19/2418577.jpg
http://img-2007-12.photosight.ru/03/2441119.jpg
Looks very European. :)

^^ very nice city!

the old buildings look nice :)

Moskva

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u280/saigon117/07573.jpg

haha you guys from katowice are so excited about those shitty "skyscrapers"
maybe in future your skyline will be nice but now it's a crap, just plenty of the commies, and i think that people from triocity should be happy that their cities are not so ugly as yours

You're full of shit - how dare you saying like that in international thread?? shame on you.

Dnipropetrovsk (summer photos from gorod.dp.ua):
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/01/02/14560.jpg
http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/usergorod/2008/01/02/14559.jpg

more Rostov-on-Don

http://i012.radikal.ru/0801/74/6a607206f4b6.jpg

http://i028.radikal.ru/0801/19/f562df32dd2d.jpg

Zhoss Bomon

Theese two pictures of mine just again prooves that high is not the most important thing, as long as new towers blend in well with the city, which is the case with Vilnius and Tallinn, who so far have shown the most effort in urban planning.

Tallinn, from Finnish gulf
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http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6109/dsc05721ml8.jpg

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3910/dsc0594qd0.jpg

^^Nice pics.Another highrise will kill this amazing skyline,especialy on the right side,on the left it should be good with more highrises.:)