This one is old but pretty cool :)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/ringu-pl/riv2.jpg

Vilnius looks good
but I thinks building boom gone there...not so much project on larger scale going on there nowadays!
-there wasn't change for few(2?) years now

some Krakow skylines. not so many high-rises, but quite presentable, I would think:)

http://www.krakow.zax.pl/inne/panoramy/panoramy_001_dczyste.jpg

http://www.krakow.zax.pl/inne/panoramy/panoramy_007_dczyste.jpg

http://www.krakow.zax.pl/inne/panoramy/panoramy_008_dczyste.jpg

more:
http://www.krakow4u.pl/Panoramy_Krakowa.html

Moscow, by jst:

http://photos.streamphoto.ru/4/5/c/d44f899b8aa88906b269b0122a860c54.jpg

Vilnius looks good
but I thinks building boom gone there...not so much project on larger scale going on there nowadays!
-there wasn't change for few(2?) years now

Most of what you've said here is far from true ;)

Two right-most buildings (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19036054&postcount=1994) are still u/c, missing in this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19046070&postcount=1997) picture though. Two highrises are u/c, one on hold, one should start sometime soon, 2 are in planning stages, architecture tender of one ongoing, and that is only of what we know.

Large scale projects? How does Gugenheim museum sound to you?... There are quite a lot of them ongoing now, most still in detail architecture planning stages though. Be sure i will inform those whoever are interested, just visit N&B section.

Looks like Vilnius has the best skyline in Baltics :)

Krakow is a super nice!!!!!

Oh yeah :cheers:

http://i010.radikal.ru/0803/64/5b3d09a1ebbd.jpg

Photo from here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19108478&postcount=3775

Oh yeah :cheers:

http://i010.radikal.ru/0803/64/5b3d09a1ebbd.jpg

Photo from here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19108478&postcount=3775

great photo:)

The atmosphere almost like in Blade Runner the movie. :cheers:

lol what does Putin have to do with Moscow-city? The project was planned since early 1990s but there was no money for that before. Now there are numerous private investors whom made this highrise boom possible. And what's with letter M? It is the new Moscow city hall. So please do share your comments with us :yes:

What does the new Moscow city hall has to do with business and the need of new office spaces?!?!And I`ve also heard that the whole goverment adminimstration will be moved into the city as well.
And the M letter ...pure kitsch! Typical for the modern russian architecture, as discussed earlier in forum.You can really spoil the outlook of a building with roof like that and this is just another example.

btw, I like very much the two big skyscrapers, built by now.

What does the new Moscow city hall has to do with business and the need of new office spaces?!?!And I`ve also heard that the whole goverment adminimstration will be moved into the city as well.
And the M letter ...pure kitsch! Typical for the modern russian architecture, as discussed earlier in forum.You can really spoil the outlook of a building with roof like that and this is just another example.

btw, I like very much the two big skyscrapers, built by now.

I'll have to come down on the side of Moscow's on this one. Can't really see what's so kitsch about the big "M". The shape of it seems to be blended with the overall blocky architecture of the tower quite well. As a graphic designer I love the graceful stylization of the letter worthy a book cover or a catalog.

Moreover, in the broader cultural and historical contexts, "M" has played an important role forming Moscow's visual identity. Just as Russia's image is often the "M" shape comes along Moscow's unique image as a world capital.

http://www.tamegoeswild.com/photos/coppermine/albums/200708_russia/moscow_metro_01.JPG

What does the new Moscow city hall has to do with business and the need of new office spaces?!?!
It is too complicated for your little weak brain to understand...

Why always the same pictures of Moscow?

What does the new Moscow city hall has to do with business and the need of new office spaces?!?!And I`ve also heard that the whole goverment adminimstration will be moved into the city as well.

You are absolutely right in that the Moscow city hall building has little in common with the other skyscrapers in the cluster, but it was not the main point of the discussion. I do believe moving the city government to a brand new contemporary building will have a lot of benefits, among them:
- the fact that the new building will be located right in the heart of Moscow's business center will help centralize and optimize government's operations(i.e. easier to obtain permissions, hold meetings with elected officials);
- the 2008 Moscow is different from the 2000 Moscow and even more different from the 1990 Moscow. Where once gloomy Stalinist blocks stood, new highrises are going up day and night. Moscow is changing. And so is Moscow's government. It used to function as a giant bureaucratic machine, slow and inherently deaf to people's voices, today it is set to embrace a whole new image of a responsive and caring civic administration. The City Hall tower, modern, gracious, and inviting is just that.

Why always the same pictures of Moscow?

Your wish is my command. Below are some of the recent pictures of Ekaterinburg originally posted (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19122659&postcount=26) by Alexander-M over in the Russian section(head over there to see the rest). Ekaterinburg is a city of 1,3 mln that sits on the fringe between European and Asian parts of Russia. It was recently noted as one of the top 100 most urbanized cities in the world and, thanks to its burgeoning construction market, is often cited as "Russia's second skyscraper capital".

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/2115fef05950874a9ec249266c3b38fe/view.pic

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/84faf6cd0d2ec98ac1ea98adae32119e/view.pic

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/dcfbd6b33a4f04a89dde1993d674c5a2/view.pic

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/00226091d72e83008f57e2ae5f6b7734/view.pic

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/3e16294cd5381467a36acf9fbbdd9cde/view.pic

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/62f0e8866d1f331225ee377d99101cd1/view.pic

http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/o/8c483bab93bd6420c74173a79ec1e34f/view.pic

that sits on the fringe between European and Asian parts of Russia.
It looks quite asian...

Bucharest tonight (sorry for bad quality ...it's from live http://82.76.75.160:59764/cgi-bin/guestimage.html)
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2397/buccwd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What does the new Moscow city hall has to do with business and the need of new office spaces?!?!And I`ve also heard that the whole goverment adminimstration will be moved into the city as well.For you the fact that Moscow city hall will be built in Moscow-city is a proof that Moscow wastes its money.
It's all vice versa.
Moscow business centre will host not only offices, but apartments, hotels, malls, water sports centre etc.
Moscow needs one big space for its hall and Duma and wants to save money.
Since the buisiness area land is very expensive tha mayor decided to built 2 skyscrapers for Moscow free :)
Moscow is looking for an investor that could build 4 scycrapers (this building with the letter M consists of 4 towers) and give 2 of them to Moscow absolutely free.
So, do you see you were wrong? :)

^^^ It's good practice Brad. The same did Vilnius municipality. Sold various old buildings and build one new scraper in New City Centre.

Kiev, Obolon
http://www.archunion.com.ua/img/panorams-2/b_001.jpg

^^Very "nice" indeed.:puke:

So, I was right...Moscow city is absolutely artificial project.
So why was all that "business needs it" bs? It`s just a showing off, trying to impress who?The "never cared about skyscrapers" Europe, some coutries in Asia, or the whole world?
The only ones impressed here are the russians themselves..
Nothing new to the world, the old Moscow`s useless grandomania...

btw, I vote for Warszawa.The skyscrapers there are great and they really have a nice, natural cluster.
Also new skyscrapers are being built every year.That is ,after all, the biggest "newcomers from the east in EU" city, and it must represent us all with dignity.

So, I was right...Moscow city is absolutely artificial project.
How did you come to that conclusion after all that has been said :doh:

Go be a troll somewhere else

So, I was right...Moscow city is absolutely artificial project.
So why was all that "business needs it" bs? It`s just a showing off, trying to impress who?The "never cared about skyscrapers" Europe, some coutries in Asia, or the whole world?
The only ones impressed here are the russians themselves..
Nothing new to the world, the old Moscow`s useless grandomania...

btw, I vote for Warszawa.The skyscrapers there are great and they really have a nice, natural cluster.
Also new skyscrapers are being built every year.That is ,after all, the biggest "newcomers from the east in EU" city, and it must represent us all with dignity.

Yes Moscow-City is just a potemkin village, they will be empty skyscrapers meant to showcase national pride and uphold people's morale. Moscow is Europe's Pyongyang.

^^ Food for the troll

Moscow is Europe's Pyongyang.
Pyongyang is nicer :yes:

lol perro, apart from Moscow, Belgrade and Skopje, which other cities do you dislike? :lol:

How did you come to that conclusion after all that has been said :doh:

Go be a troll somewhere else

Why do you have explain something for those jelaous inferiour complex losers? Most of EE countries are just producers of labour force and a market for EU. Just continue post pictures. the better pictures are the worse those guys will feel! And Warsaw skyscrapers are ridiculous. Most of built are just new age commies. Nothing special about them, they are primitive compared to what is going on in Moscow now. Istambul is far better than Warsaw in my eyes. So what no? Warsaw will have some better projects in close future but it won't change skykine overally. And there are no cluster in Warsaw. Buildings are too far from each other.
Artificial? loool what's Warsaw's population? isn't it too small for skyscrapers? for whom they did it build? to impress never Europe or Asia? :lol: You see most of those suckers arguments are nothing. Do they really think that 10mil megapolise with 3rd city budget in the world doesn't needcan't afford skyscrapers? I would suggest for them to sport more and take it all easy :D

^^ Indeed, its just that after several pages of explaining the huge demand for office space in Moscow, some mofo still lectures us on "artificial projects" :lol: Annoying :)

:cheers:

http://i014.radikal.ru/0803/a6/76bb8ba88400.jpg
http://i019.radikal.ru/0803/6c/251ed6120d4c.jpg
last photo by Majoris


Yawn, the EE forum is becoming too small for Moscow :D

Why do you have explain something for those jelaous inferiour complex losers? Most of EE countries are just producers of labour force and a market for EU. Just continue post pictures. the better pictures are the worse those guys will feel! And Warsaw skyscrapers are ridiculous. Most of built are just new age commies. Nothing special about them, they are primitive compared to what is going on in Moscow now. Istambul is far better than Warsaw in my eyes. So what no? Warsaw will have some better projects in close future but it won't change skykine overally. And there are no cluster in Warsaw. Buildings are too far from each other.
Artificial? loool what's Warsaw's population? isn't it too small for skyscrapers? for whom they did it build? to impress never Europe or Asia? :lol: You see most of those suckers arguments are nothing. Do they really think that 10mil megapolise with 3rd city budget in the world doesn't needcan't afford skyscrapers? I would suggest for them to sport more and take it all easy :D
OMG, what a moron...

OMG, what a moron...
Yeah, we already noticed your avatar, dont' worry.

In a way, he's right.
All talk of Moscow's skyline aside, only someone who has never been to Warsaw can make a clam that Istanbul's cheap skyscrapers are better then those of Warsaw.

Istambul is far better than Warsaw in my eyes.
most of Istambul scyscrapers are kitchy cheap asian design moscow is much better but still it's nothing that special just good fashionable design not innovative but good.

Why do you have explain something for those jelaous inferiour complex losers? Most of EE countries are just producers of labour force and a market for EU. Just continue post pictures. the better pictures are the worse those guys will feel! And Warsaw skyscrapers are ridiculous. Most of built are just new age commies. Nothing special about them, they are primitive compared to what is going on in Moscow now. Istambul is far better than Warsaw in my eyes. So what no? Warsaw will have some better projects in close future but it won't change skykine overally. And there are no cluster in Warsaw. Buildings are too far from each other.
Artificial? loool what's Warsaw's population? isn't it too small for skyscrapers? for whom they did it build? to impress never Europe or Asia? :lol: You see most of those suckers arguments are nothing. Do they really think that 10mil megapolise with 3rd city budget in the world doesn't needcan't afford skyscrapers? I would suggest for them to sport more and take it all easy :D


of course, you are a baltic russian

Why do you have explain something for those jelaous inferiour complex losers? Most of EE countries are just producers of labour force and a market for EU. Just continue post pictures. the better pictures are the worse those guys will feel! And Warsaw skyscrapers are ridiculous. Most of built are just new age commies. Nothing special about them, they are primitive compared to what is going on in Moscow now. Istambul is far better than Warsaw in my eyes. So what no? Warsaw will have some better projects in close future but it won't change skykine overally. And there are no cluster in Warsaw. Buildings are too far from each other.
Artificial? loool what's Warsaw's population? isn't it too small for skyscrapers? for whom they did it build? to impress never Europe or Asia? :lol: You see most of those suckers arguments are nothing. Do they really think that 10mil megapolise with 3rd city budget in the world doesn't needcan't afford skyscrapers? I would suggest for them to sport more and take it all easy :D

And who will believe in that?...
just a cheap provocation...

Ignore this guy... Alex is probably a Russian living in Latvia so... and he`s showing his frustration, because someone likes Warsaw`s skyline more than Moscow`s...

Alexriga What A Guy ,nice troll:lol::lol:

You need Brig :D

http://finplast.pl/city37.jpg

http://finplast.pl/city39.jpg

http://images24.fotosik.pl/68/a86cb015793de78a.jpg

http://images6.fotosik.pl/148/9e6ff43f388ade05.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/4204/z4204452X.jpg

http://images2.fotosik.pl/164/90de51b9a0125143.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_08_07/2007_08_07_-_03_-_Warszawa_-_widok_z_Kopca_Powstania_Warszawskiego.jpg

http://images29.fotosik.pl/68/217f008e68719ff7.jpg

http://images21.fotosik.pl/379/50af83227371906d.jpg

http://images13.fotosik.pl/47/e528bdd13143ab19.jpg

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5565/nocpr1zy9.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/250/pict1771um1zx8.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/Pozostale/2007_04_05_-_001_-_Warszawa.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_09_25/2007_09_23_-_002_-_Warszawa_-_widok_z_ul_Nowogrodzkiej.jpg

http://images23.fotosik.pl/97/7a1ebad173075046.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_10_18/2007_10_16_-_002_-_Warszawa.jpg

View from WTT (208m)
http://www.apollorida.com.pl/dl/trade_tower_02.jpg

View from my district
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/5127807.jpg

http://images25.fotosik.pl/96/ae4020b86fd6d3ca.jpg

http://warszawa78.blox.pl/resource/panorama.jpg

Vilnius from Flickr
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o67/auckland16/2347697738_b830720999_b1.jpg

Kinda poor skyline but I like it, dunno why...

Alexriga What A Guy ,nice troll:lol::lol:


just a cheap provocation...
He is not a troll.
All provocation started in the post 2022, he just reacted.

Thanks for the photos, Warsaw will have a well deserved second place in EE :)

^^And what about Istanbul?

I think it's gonna be first...

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9047/rrdx7dv9.jpg

I think it's gone be first...
]it has gone?:)

No point of debating here guys, Kiev-city will be the best in EE

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/3_large.jpg

^^
:cheers::okay::applause:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/3_large.jpg[/QUOTE]

So how is it with this plan, is any of those towers already U/C?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/3_large.jpg

So how is it with this plan, is any of those towers already U/C?[/QUOTE]

First 350 m tower will be U/C in May, constructor company is Turkish ENKA, investor is MosCityGroup, check this out: http://www.moscitygroup.ru/#projects/regions/kiev-city/

:banana:

wrong thread guys

hmm, I am really curious who will get the second supertall in Europe after Moscow's Federation Tower. So far the contenders are London, Paris, Istanbul, Warsaw, Kiev... Anyone else? And it seems none of those have started construction yet.

hmm, I am really curious who will get the second supertall in Europe after Moscow's Federation Tower. So far the contenders are London, Paris, Istanbul, Warsaw, Kiev... Anyone else? And it seems none of those have started construction yet.

Well if you look at Warsaw, London or Paris The supertalls plan to finish around 2012 so it will be close...not sure bout Kiev.. we can all say none of them will be as tall as Moscow or as many as Moscow, Warsaw has 2 proposed London has 1 approved (dont know bout the others).

^^ Kiev's one sould also be finished in 2012, so it will be close indeed :D

Tavarishi, uspokoites!
I was just expressing my opinion.
Believe me, you cannot change my mind. Moscow city is artificial and ridiculous in my eyes,though some good buildings.The only ones impressed here, as i said before, are the russians themselves.So please don`t bore the forum with one and the same images of the not built yet city, taken from different angles.Show us what real Moscow looks like...and we can discuss again.
btw. you should accept the fact,that just because something is in Moscow, it does not make it automatically being the best.You will be surprised to know how many people in EE don`t give a fuck about you and your capital.

Yury, It wont be Warsaw, Im sure of it! Those two supertall proposals (330m & 350m) are fairly new and it will take some time to approve them. Also, the skyscrapers are located in the city's core, surrounded by normal houses (tenements. commies etc) and people who live there tend to protest, thus sometimes it takes years before the construction can start.

^^ it's a pity, hope they will start construction sooner rather than later

...Believe me, you cannot change my mind. Moscow city is artificial and ridiculous in my eyes...

and your dislike of Moscow stems from the fact that it's not in the EU or for some historic reasons? :lol:

Kyiv by mckey_stopusa:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/22/mckey11.7/0_a502_bfe31204_orig

^^That's grand! :cheers:

Yury, It wont be Warsaw, Im sure of it! Those two supertall proposals (330m & 350m) are fairly new and it will take some time to approve them. Also, the skyscrapers are located in the city's core, surrounded by normal houses (tenements. commies etc) and people who live there tend to protest, thus sometimes it takes years before the construction can start.

True but with new building legislation it will cut down time in the application stage by getting rid off some beaurocracy, also they will abolish construction permits so once a project has planning conditions (WZ) it will not need to get a construction permit....:banana::banana:

lol perro, apart from Moscow, Belgrade and Skopje, which other cities do you dislike? :lol:

Let me think...may be central Bucurest,with the fencelike buildings.They should have killed Chausescu before his approval of the project.I`m sure they had to demolish some of the prettiest buildings there.

btw. never said I don`t like those cities, if you have read my posts carefully, Yuri...

All that bash and trash about Moscow Skyline is just pure jealousy.
Especially Perro the biggest moron I ever seen on this forum is kinda funny.

Moscow is one of the biggest cities in the world in need of high quality office space.
Almost every major world company like Boeing or Citibank needs new offices in Moscow.
If Russia wanted to show the world how great their skyline is then they could easily import some thousend chinese workers to build Russia Tower in 9 months or so. Chinese will build it very fast and cheap.

Now back to the discussion of Best skyline. In terms of Highest quality A-class office buildings Moscow is simply number 1.
Moscow skyscrapers are new-high quality build buildings with some of the most luxurious
interiors inside. Warsaw is pretty good but the buildings are many buildings they have are b-class


The overal skyline of Moscow is very diversifed. Moscow is building or has approved many other business centers which will be located in different sites in the city.
The amount of offices and business centers U/C or build in Moscow is just incomparable. If Warsaw approves 1 suppertall Moscow approves that day after 10 supertalls.

Moscow is the only winner up here, no discussion.

P.s russians don't feed that troll. (perro)

^^
God Bless "The Oligarch Republic"!

Thank you, how kind :)

The old Russia and the new Russia :banana:

http://i31.tinypic.com/10dcy6w.jpg
photo by anb

A closer look at the Moscow cluster :cheers:

http://photos.streamphoto.ru/d/6/4/5cfc2943fc9d645b1e63a9a0ec11b46d.jpg
http://photos.streamphoto.ru/9/a/a/f80cfa8f4da94a1908f8b1c700006aa9.jpg
http://photos.streamphoto.ru/a/8/e/09f8dd56eeee702f168876e9e2ae7e8a.jpg
photos by jst

http://i017.radikal.ru/0803/1b/6e72132edc4c.jpg
http://i035.radikal.ru/0803/53/eed8ce823e74.jpg
photos by majoris

All that bash and trash about Moscow Skyline is just pure jealousy.

Moscow is one of the biggest cities in the world in need of high quality office space.
Almost every major world company like Boeing or Citibank needs new offices in Moscow.
If Russia wanted to show the world how great their skyline is then they could easily import some thousend chinese workers to build Russia Tower in 9 months or so. Chinese will build it very fast and cheap.

Now back to the discussion of Best skyline. In terms of Highest quality A-class office buildings Moscow is simply number 1.
Moscow skyscrapers are new-high quality build buildings with some of the most luxurious
interiors inside. Warsaw is pretty good but the buildings are many buildings they have are b-class


The overal skyline of Moscow is very diversifed. Moscow is building or has approved many other business centers which will be located in different sites in the city.
The amount of offices and business centers U/C or build in Moscow is just incomparable. If Warsaw approves 1 suppertall Moscow approves that day after 10 supertalls.

Moscow is the only winner up here, no discussion. You must be russian...And what're you saying here is just bullshit. And no one is jealousy here, (rofl @ you if you think like that) And it's just you, who thinks, moscow "approves that day after 10 supertalls" here we have another rofl @ you. And if you campare warsaw and moscow, you have to remember that moscow is like 5x bigger...And I bet you know shit what's gonna be bulid in warsaw in next 4-5 years...And what about chinese you mentioned...I think milions of russians would do it even cheaper (and faster) since they earn less then 50$ per month...However both moscow and warsaw has nice skylines and I didn't know that libeskind and other famous designers creates b-classbuilding (another rofl @ you). That's what I think...kthxbye

^I smell more trolls coming in........

You must be russian...And what're you saying here is just bullshit.

wait so only russians can like the skyline of Moscow ? :lol:
How typical for a pole to dislike things from russia :down:

Just post Warsaw VS Moscow or VS Istanbul pictures in America or Asia forum the people will tell you which skyline is the best !

to be honest I think Warsaw's skyline looks rather asiatic because it is so artificial, those buildings seem to be discplaced in such a small city, additionaly it looks as if they scrapped there old commies and now recycle those bricks to build new skyscrapers with rather low quality and poor design

to be honest I think Warsaw's skyline looks rather asiatic because it is so artificial, those buildings seem to be discplaced in such a small city, additionaly it looks as if they scrapped there old commies and now recycle those bricks to build new skyscrapers with rather low quality and poor design

Yep..another russian boy...:lol:


a new skyscraper with rather low quality and poor design in Warsaw :)

http://wiezowce.blox.pl/resource/Zlota44.jpg













new skyscrapers in Moscow

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8710/thesonofheavenhotelxd8.jpg

it's just a joke :D

.I think milions of russians would do it even cheaper (and faster) since they earn less then 50$ per month...
link of the place where you've got that info please... :) from what i know, average salary in Russia is $650 right now...

Is it okay if I mock the religeous beliefs of certain EE country (which happen to be related to a certain political movement)? Really, I have to let out some steam.

you have my blessing :lol:

No point of debating here guys, Kiev-city will be the best in EE

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a282/australianlad/projects/3_large.jpg
I have to admit that Golov is right:yes:

Eastern Europe in 2015:
1. Kiev
2. Moscow
3. Dnipropetrovsk

Central Europe in 2015:
1. Warsaw
2. Vilnius
3. Bratislava

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/808/commieslm6.jpg

No offence guys, the photo was a good opportunity for this... and I couldn`t resist...;) I hope that you will take it with a sense of humour... :cheers:

The old Russia and the new Russia :banana:

http://i31.tinypic.com/10dcy6w.jpg
photo by anb
Very nice:okay:

6/10

wait so only russians can like the skyline of Moscow ? :lol:How typical for a pole to dislike things from russia :down:Soooo typical...Please just read my comment once again and maybe you'll find a very strange (for pole) sentese: "However both moscow and warsaw has nice skylines..." *SUPRISE*

ha,ha..Russians seem to be extremely happy for having for the first time real skyscrapers in Moscow.
Imagine how pathetic they are in the eyes of America and some other countries.

I have to admit that Golov is right:yes:

Eastern Europe in 2015:
1. Kiev
2. Moscow
3. Dnipropetrovsk

Central Europe in 2015:
1. Warsaw
2. Vilnius
3. Bratislava
I got an even better idea, why doesnt Warsaw create its own leage of small cities. This way it can be ranked number one in almost every aspect - brilliant!!!

The topic will be closed as long as it takes to get the idiots out of here