Gummo
July 15th, 2007, 05:15 PM
peace...
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View Full Version : Best Skylines in Eastern Europe III Gummo July 15th, 2007, 05:15 PM peace... http://arre-burro.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/Peace%20making.jpg Petr July 16th, 2007, 07:28 PM :stupid: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR SPOILING MY THREAD. :bash: :down: :gaah: :wallbash: :bleep: Komandant MarkJ July 16th, 2007, 08:16 PM It continues, but without the useless spam or it will be closed again! Chisinau: http://www.ihr.org/webpics/skyline.jpg Dulgeroff July 16th, 2007, 09:11 PM ^^ It continues, but without the useless spam or it will be closed again! Chisinau: http://www.ihr.org/webpics/skyline.jpg I love Calgary too! :) Gummo July 16th, 2007, 09:16 PM :nuts: :nuts: :crazy: hey!!! I did not create this Thread !!! ZimasterX July 16th, 2007, 09:26 PM I think up to this point, I've already seen every skyline in EE there is to see. To the point, I bet I can even identify all the highrises also. Lets try for a change to admire a skyline that isn't Warsaw, Moscow, Vilnius, Sarajevo, Bratislava, Prague, ect. Otherwise i'm starting to sense that a number of photos are repeating themselves. nebunul July 16th, 2007, 09:44 PM Why not FUTURE SkYLINE ONLY (not projects; skyline only; lets say 2015) Say cheers neighbours ... :cheers: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2581/783libeskinddoeswarsawspw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) 3tmk July 16th, 2007, 10:16 PM :nuts: :nuts: :crazy: hey!!! I did not create this Thread !!! behold my magic of the mighty wizard of Oz Gummo July 16th, 2007, 10:24 PM behold my magic of the mighty wizard of Oz Not even the mighty wizard of Oz can maintain the Emerald City for long without the power of the crystal. 3tmk July 16th, 2007, 10:29 PM lol it's been a long time since I read the book, so I will need a second opinion :D Until then, I need some wicked bitches to keep me company. I meant witches :D BaalNamib July 16th, 2007, 10:31 PM Guys, pleasehttp://www.astinagt.com/forums/image.php?u=16&dateline=1155258551 Show your cities, no OT posts. :) Please. 3tmk July 16th, 2007, 10:37 PM Behold the power of Lom, bulgaria! http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3888/300pxlom007lb7.jpg a little small though how about Kyustendil http://www.kyustendilcrafts.com/kyustendil/knpanorama.jpg And Shumen! http://gocmenkolik.com/images/galleria/shumen11.jpg http://gocmenkolik.com/images/galleria/shumen10.jpg http://gocmenkolik.com/images/galleria/shumen3.jpg http://gocmenkolik.com/images/galleria/shumen9.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Shumen-from-above-imagesfrombulgaria.jpg/800px-Shumen-from-above-imagesfrombulgaria.jpg http://gocmenkolik.com/galery.html http://www.skynomad.com/bourgas/draft/index7.htm http://www.skynomad.com/bourgas/draft/images/Shumen2_JPG.jpg http://www.skynomad.com/bourgas/draft/images/Shumen4_JPG.jpg http://www.skynomad.com/bourgas/draft/images/Shumen5_JPG.jpg Petr July 16th, 2007, 10:38 PM I think up to this point, I've already seen every skyline in EE there is to see. To the point, I bet I can even identify all the highrises also. Lets try for a change to admire a skyline that isn't Warsaw, Moscow, Vilnius, Sarajevo, Bratislava, Prague, ect. Otherwise i'm starting to sense that a number of photos are repeating themselves. It depends on how You are crazy about scrapers. In Polish section we have such permanent thread but only about Warsaw skyline (citizens of other cities opened their threads) more than 3 years and it's never ending story. :) BTW we post pictures from that thread here. :P Closed thread has proved, that it's vital topic. Why not FUTURE SkYLINE ONLY (not projects; skyline only; lets say 2015) Okay, but not here. ;) behold my magic of the mighty wizard of Oz You'd better start this thread from my post. :gossip: ZimasterX July 16th, 2007, 10:49 PM The boomtown of Arkhangelsk, Russian riviera style. :banana: http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/5461/234200122ac6b5a5822bgh9.jpg liburni July 16th, 2007, 11:36 PM Prishtina, Kosovo. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1259/592830162_d7d34d4267_b.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/748156476_48e0781419_b.jpg Komandant MarkJ July 16th, 2007, 11:53 PM Skoplje , Macedonia! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Pupin11/SkopljeNocu.jpg VelesHomais July 17th, 2007, 12:12 AM DNIPRO is one of the fastest developing megapolises in eastern Europe. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/02/Dnipropetrovsk_skyline_2006.jpg/800px-Dnipropetrovsk_skyline_2006.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/s/sychev/krutogorny.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/k/kozhan/malenkiy-zentr-bolsh-gor.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2006/p/primakov/visotki_center.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/foto_day/06/08/17.jpg Not to mention at least 3 skyscrapers that will begin construction within the next 6 months :cheers: canis_bg July 17th, 2007, 12:24 AM :) Here are some pics from Varna, Bulgaria´s sea capital!:) http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4342/000062279big6zwru3.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000062279big6zwru3.jpg) http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/360/24ue9gv2.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24ue9gv2.jpg) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6910/000131857big8ycmr1.th.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=000131857big8ycmr1.jpg) http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2379/asparuhovbridge115569dpgt4.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asparuhovbridge115569dpgt4.jpg) http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8676/untitled1hh9.th.png (http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled1hh9.png) http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/633/varnadg1ia7.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=varnadg1ia7.jpg) igorlan July 17th, 2007, 12:50 AM Dnipro - develops big time, looks impressive for eastern Ukrainian city. VelesHomais July 17th, 2007, 01:06 AM It's considered central-eastern Ukrainian, big difference in Ukraine between regions, anything to the east of it is the Donbass which is quite a different story in terms of everything. But yes, it's the fastest developing city, next year a new subway station will open, they're getting a new airport, a new stadion etc. VelesHomais July 17th, 2007, 01:13 AM More of Dnipro by dp_feeZf@ker http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/-59.jpg http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/-57.jpg And soon + http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7379/111111111111qu4.jpg + http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/junemayka/1_b.jpg + http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/junemayka/1_b-1.jpg + (this year) http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/junemayka/02-4.jpg and more whatever... July 17th, 2007, 04:44 AM Let us once again admire the capitals of tiny little Baltic states. ;) .............................................................................................. Tallinn, Estonia. picture by (c) Vecais Sakarnis http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6325/dscf3252ay5.jpg ............................................................................................. Riga, Latvia. picture by (c)nomels http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8140/jauntilts048avv4.jpg ............................................................................................. Vilnius, Lithuania. picture by (c)Romas from Lithuanian architecture forum (http://www.miestai.ahost.lt/forumas) scroll >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1474/untitled8hj0.jpg VelesHomais July 17th, 2007, 04:47 AM You just love to throw it at our faces with your superior cities, don't you? :( :) whatever... July 17th, 2007, 05:14 AM While of course i do, who wouldnt? :D ................................................................................................. However, Dnipropetrovsk, except few tacky - russian looking highrises, also seems to be doing just fine. as for the others - it's the same old story: Moscow and Warsaw are obvious. Bratislava, Wroclaw and Klaipeda are moving forward very fast. Bucharest and Sofia seem to be waking up, Kiev is somewhere there too. Poznan, Sarajevo and Zagreb are improoving also. Prishtina sucks... Banja Luka sucks even more... not even talking about Kraguljesomething... Tirana has a "Masterplan" 3tmk July 17th, 2007, 05:29 AM Guys, remember this is only for current skylines We have other threads for renders and future skylines, personally I am much more interested in looking at the current situation, even if it's of the same cities like Warsaw, as long as it's new pictures, or even if it's of small cities with no real skyscrapers, as long as it's a panorama of some kind. dejan July 17th, 2007, 05:39 AM ^^You might as well not have said that:tongue2: people will continue posting future skylines;) that or you could be mean and delete their posts... 3tmk July 17th, 2007, 05:53 AM me, mean? I used to be, now I'm good, I swear, I changed SuRfIYmVRgo ZimasterX July 17th, 2007, 06:29 AM Guys, remember this is only for current skylines We have other threads for renders and future skylines, personally I am much more interested in looking at the current situation, even if it's of the same cities like Warsaw, as long as it's new pictures, or even if it's of small cities with no real skyscrapers, as long as it's a panorama of some kind. Cmon, lets allow future skylines also. Otherwise everytime I visit this thead I see the same old photos, with the only difference being, that they are shot at different angles. :gaah: I say bring it on, Kyiv 2020!, Sarajevo 2050!!, Pristina 3000!!! :banana: BaalNamib July 17th, 2007, 09:44 AM Sarajevo :cheers: Pristina - big suprise :cheers: Riga, Vilnius, Dnipr :cheers: Tallin, Riga great development :) :cheers: Btw. Many ppl says: Warsaw look like an american city http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs11/i/2006/214/7/b/Warsaw_from_filters_by_da_ta.jpg Los Angeles 90's http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs12/f/2006/337/f/1/WARSAW_IN_THE_EVENING_by_wwwkrzyzewskipl.jpg Dallas. :D :crazy2: http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/junemayka/02-4.jpg very nice tower. What's the name, and tall? :) :cheers: igorlan July 17th, 2007, 10:57 AM It's considered central-eastern Ukrainian, big difference in Ukraine between regions, anything to the east of it is the Donbass which is quite a different story in terms of everything. But yes, it's the fastest developing city, next year a new subway station will open, they're getting a new airport, a new stadion etc. Is it true that eastern Ukraina is much more developed and richer then western part???? Brad July 17th, 2007, 11:35 AM Sorry for the quality, it was the cheapest camera possible :) The left building is the tallest in Minsk (Belarus) http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/905/04yt9.jpg http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3755/07nu7.jpg http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/68/06lw4.jpg http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/8333/05oc4.jpg http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2246/03sl0.jpg http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9694/02zk0.jpg http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/5/01jy4.jpg Ataman July 17th, 2007, 11:46 AM Btw. Many ppl says: Warsaw look like an american city I would take that as an insult rather than a compliment. By the way, what happened to Best Skylines in EE II? -Ataman paku July 17th, 2007, 03:38 PM ^^It was destroyed by a trollfest. 3tmk July 17th, 2007, 04:30 PM Cmon, lets allow future skylines also. Otherwise everytime I visit this thead I see the same old photos, with the only difference being, that they are shot at different angles. :gaah: I say bring it on, Kyiv 2020!, Sarajevo 2050!!, Pristina 3000!!! :banana: I'm sure if you make a search there will be many such threads of future renders. If not, you are welcome to open one, it will be as popular as this one This is the only place for people to post real skyline pictures Blok July 17th, 2007, 05:23 PM Białystok: http://images30.fotosik.pl/26/e6b2b7ae2ac1594b.jpg http://images30.fotosik.pl/26/874637f870edad9e.jpg http://images25.fotosik.pl/13/7a81aaf87a91b9df.jpg http://images22.fotosik.pl/122/23e865450a79e460.jpg http://images27.fotosik.pl/9/109f3598787153f3.jpg http://images23.fotosik.pl/9/449cc78b9f9f7feb.jpg Petr July 17th, 2007, 05:44 PM Cmon, lets allow future skylines also. Otherwise everytime I visit this thead I see the same old photos, with the only difference being, that they are shot at different angles. :gaah: I say bring it on, Kyiv 2020!, Sarajevo 2050!!, Pristina 3000!!! :banana: While opening first thread I've defined clearly its purpose, so don't behave like a troll. :| Nobody forbids You to open a thread for visualizations of skylines. Visions, not necessarily realistic, are one thing, and existing skylines are another think. And I can assure You that there will be much more panorama pics from different, sometimes completely fresh, perspectives taken during different hours and different seasons than visualizations of the future skylines. If somebody spoils this thread, I'll open another with exact purpose in its name... VelesHomais July 17th, 2007, 07:46 PM Is it true that eastern Ukraina is much more developed and richer then western part???? The richest would be Kyiv (northern), Dnipro (central-eastern) and Odessa (southern). Generally speaking north-central region around the capital is the richest. Some western regions are the poorest, like Ivano-Frankivsk, because there are no huge industries to employ tens of thousands of people. Ataman July 17th, 2007, 09:46 PM Some western regions are the poorest, like Ivano-Frankivsk, because there are no huge industries to employ tens of thousands of people. But Zapcarpathia is doing pretty good, as I have heard. -Ataman VelesHomais July 17th, 2007, 10:03 PM Every subregion is unique. BaalNamib July 18th, 2007, 07:50 PM http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1167/837527986_acf920b2ae_b.jpg :eek2: soloveich July 18th, 2007, 08:02 PM http://img-2007-07.photosight.ru/17/2200559.jpg отсюда http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=2200559&ref=section&refid=7 one of Moscow's skylines :) Cosmin July 18th, 2007, 08:47 PM Commies reborn. liburni July 18th, 2007, 09:50 PM A few more pics of Prishtina: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1358/845244887_29606491cc.jpg?v=0 liburni July 18th, 2007, 10:01 PM tirana skyline: http://albca.com/albania/images/Tirana.jpg http://albca.com/albania/images/Qendra_Tajvan.jpg Brad July 19th, 2007, 12:02 AM Commies reborn.You are right. These are new modern high rise commies for the people who get new apartments free in Moscow. BaalNamib July 19th, 2007, 04:20 PM This commietowers hmmm... reminds me HK commies. pt82 July 19th, 2007, 08:50 PM You are right. These are new modern high rise commies for the people who get new apartments free in Moscow. :lol: Gamma-Hamster July 19th, 2007, 10:55 PM :lol: What, free apartments are something unknown to you? Thought i doubt that towers soloveich posted are part of that social program. soloveich July 20th, 2007, 01:10 AM :lol: what's so funny? Brad July 20th, 2007, 10:34 AM Thought i doubt that towers soloveich posted are part of that social program.Don Stroi has to give a big part of apartments in every complex it builds to Moscow free. Don Stroy builds luxary high rises and doesn't want to have expensive and free apartments in one building. So. Don Stroi proposed to build a separate high rise complex especially for the social program. To Gamma-Hamster If you doubt smth it is much better to discuss your uncertainties in Russia forum first. Gamma-Hamster July 20th, 2007, 11:11 AM So. Don Stroi proposed to build a separate high rise complex especially for the social program. Show me at least mentioning of free apartments there: http://www.donstroy.com/ru/complex/?show=descr&id=3052 Brad July 20th, 2007, 11:39 AM ^^ http://www.donstroy.com/ru/about/public/?cmd=full&nid=3119&tid=433&return_url=%3ftid%3d433%26st%3d0%26st1%3d%26tid1%3d Gamma-Hamster July 20th, 2007, 11:48 AM ^^ http://www.donstroy.com/ru/about/public/?cmd=full&nid=3119&tid=433&return_url=%3ftid%3d433%26st%3d0%26st1%3d%26tid1%3d Nothing about free apartments there, only about 50% price paid by Moscow government and not in the whole complex. dash wwa July 20th, 2007, 01:10 PM http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2581/783libeskinddoeswarsawspw6.jpg now is: http://images26.fotosik.pl/30/be017d3108aab424.jpg http://images23.fotosik.pl/11/40ec31eb35c72777.jpg http://images23.fotosik.pl/13/02ba49ac09d97df1.jpg mirza-sm July 20th, 2007, 05:29 PM While of course i do, who wouldnt? :D ................................................................................................. However, Dnipropetrovsk, except few tacky - russian looking highrises, also seems to be doing just fine. as for the others - it's the same old story: Moscow and Warsaw are obvious. Bratislava, Wroclaw and Klaipeda are moving forward very fast. Bucharest and Sofia seem to be waking up, Kiev is somewhere there too. Poznan, Sarajevo and Zagreb are improoving also. Prishtina sucks... Banja Luka sucks even more... not even talking about Kraguljesomething... Tirana has a "Masterplan" :lol: ZimasterX July 20th, 2007, 07:12 PM ^^ I dont see whats so funny/exiting. I can identify several more EE cities with such "masterplans". Within a few years they will be a little more well known on this forum. Dux Uxorum July 20th, 2007, 07:43 PM The photo of Pristina from above is really amazing and the 2nd photo of Tirana is pretty as well. pt82 July 20th, 2007, 08:07 PM :lol: I heard that Moscow apartments are one of most expensive in the world. So it will be quite nice if someone just give it to someone for free. ruso malo July 21st, 2007, 01:32 PM Kazan -capital of Tatarstan(Russia) http://rb.foto.radikal.ru/0707/79/0384e2b83f84.jpg http://rf.foto.radikal.ru/0707/67/96d48822f23a.jpg from photofile.ru by ruhmak by korablik bgrs July 21st, 2007, 02:13 PM ^^ LOL! new bulgaria July 21st, 2007, 04:06 PM :D:D:D I wonder what our Macedonian friends will say now. bgrs July 21st, 2007, 04:27 PM Some of them (from the kajgana forum) would say..."go home". So I guess I'm going to Ruse...or perhaps the Skopje region...or Dobrudja...or the region near Lom...hm, tough job :) mirza-sm July 21st, 2007, 07:40 PM ^^ I dont see whats so funny/exiting. I can identify several more EE cities with such "masterplans". Within a few years they will be a little more well known on this forum. yes but he has put the "" thats why it was funny :P ok nevermind :) whatever... July 21st, 2007, 08:15 PM ^^ I dont see whats so funny/exiting. I can identify several more EE cities with such "masterplans". Within a few years they will be a little more well known on this forum. Of course they do, but afaik none of their inhabitants go and post same line (blablabla masterplan prepared by french architects...) and that same picture in just about every thread anyhow related to Balkans :) Anyway, a nice picture of Vilnius with few new highrises, no NCC cluster included this time. Picture is taken from an u/c viaduct by (c)Mantas http://foto.prusai.org/inkelti/20070401/DSC_0555.JPG Tuzin July 22nd, 2007, 12:03 AM http://mislaw.eu.interia.pl/zronda.jpg (c) mislaw igorlan July 22nd, 2007, 12:39 AM ^^ Awesome panoramic shot :cheers: nebunul July 22nd, 2007, 06:49 AM I will be flying through Warsaw this morning; maybe I'll take some nice shots from above ... Its the airport far way form city center? :cheers: whatever... July 22nd, 2007, 11:55 AM nop dash wwa July 22nd, 2007, 03:41 PM http://foto.terpe.lt/inkelti/20070401/DSC_0555.JPG nice skyscraper. It looks like polish skysraper in Cracow: http://images29.fotosik.pl/28/fd0e60fee8e2a8b3med.jpg http://rf.foto.radikal.ru/0707/67/96d48822f23a.jpg disneyland??:colgate: Gamma-Hamster July 22nd, 2007, 04:10 PM disneyland??:colgate: No, it's Kazan's Kremlin, UNESCO world heritage site, you ignorant retard. http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/980 Built on an ancient site, the Kazan Kremlin dates from the Muslim period of the Golden Horde and the Kazan Khanate. It was conquered by Ivan the Terrible in 1552 and became the Christian See of the Volga Land. The only surviving Tatar fortress in Russia and an important place of pilgrimage, the Kazan Kremlin consists of an outstanding group of historic buildings dating from the 16th to 19th centuries, integrating remains of earlier structures of the 10th to 16th centuries. Blok July 22nd, 2007, 05:57 PM ^^ I didn't know Mongolia is so developed:uh: dash wwa July 22nd, 2007, 10:36 PM No, it's Kazan's Kremlin, UNESCO world heritage site, you ignorant retard. sorry for my little joke. Without violence:drunk: ancov July 23rd, 2007, 10:45 AM ^^ I didn't know Mongolia is so developed:uh: Mongolia? :lol: :lol: :lol: :nuts: :nuts: Kazan - the Capital of Tatarstan (Russian Federation) Tuzin July 23rd, 2007, 10:46 PM ^^ you should thank polish education system. many people think tatars=mongolians. new bulgaria July 24th, 2007, 04:33 AM ^^ you should thank polish education system. many people think tatars=mongolians. Another educational system teaches that Tatar = Bulgarians. :) :) :) It's hot to be Tatar nowadays! Luka July 24th, 2007, 01:30 PM Belgrade http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/boksa1/wallpaperfotSubZero.jpg http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/boksa1/0032.jpg http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/boksa1/Belgrade_Night_by_pakimaninc.jpg Petr July 25th, 2007, 01:43 AM My pics from sunday. http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8850/imgp0215iw1.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9720/imgp0216pl3.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3819/imgp0223yh7.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4503/imgp0227fy0.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6898/imgp0231gl7.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4959/imgp0237fj0.jpg Komandant MarkJ July 25th, 2007, 02:01 AM Warsaw's skyline is great, but Warsaw itself lacks a certain "city-feel", probably due to its seemingly low density, as evidenced in your photos. On my April visit to Warsaw, I kind of felt like I was in New Belgrade, Belgrade's commie/sleeping district. Downtown Belgrade on the other hand... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Pupin11/belgrade1.jpg Petr July 25th, 2007, 02:19 AM Warsaw's skyline is great, but Warsaw itself lacks a certain "city-feel", probably due to its seeming low density, as evidenced in your photos. On my April visit to Warsaw, I kind of felt like I was in New Belgrade, Belgrade's commie/sleeping district. It depends on the area. On the first 4 pics the closest area is the area of Ghetto, which was built up after the war according to modern/communist town-planing. But the South Center, area around the Royal Route and Praga District are pretty dense according to the European standards, and gaps are still filled. Actually, before the first World War Warsaw with its 800 k citizens was one of the most dense cities in Europe, because Russians didn't let it to develop territorially. South Center http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6002/0243bue1.jpg http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9176/srpoltt8.jpg http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2407/waw3fj8.jpg http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9356/mostveveri1vwi4.jpg http://www.samper.pl/warszawa_z_lotu_orla/galeria/zap03.jpg Royal Route http://www.samper.pl/warszawa_z_lotu_orla/galeria/zap02.jpg Praga http://www.fototom.pl/pl/wyst2004-2/fot/Stepien-002.jpg Moreover, north from Intraco - tower from which I've taken first 4 pics, u/c is entire rather dense district . http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/stawki234.jpg Rascian July 25th, 2007, 04:24 PM This could be some sort of a mini skyline: Belgrade from the Brankov bridge in the south direction: http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/Vlastimir/DSC00022jjjn.jpg SIMSI July 25th, 2007, 04:41 PM Belgrade http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/boksa1/wallpaperfotSubZero.jpg I was 3 weeks ago in Belgrade. Panorama from Kalemegdan in the night looks great :cheers: we_shine July 27th, 2007, 12:11 AM Great development in DNIPRO:cheers: Poznan http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/P1020183citys.jpg mirza-sm July 27th, 2007, 05:51 PM Rising skyline of Sarajevo (taken few months ago) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3982/74460053av8.jpg : ) ruso malo July 28th, 2007, 05:51 PM Chelyabinsk(Russia) from photofile.ru by jiel http://ra.foto.radikal.ru/0707/9a/70f117b03056.jpg by habitus88 http://rg.foto.radikal.ru/0707/a4/0712a9a4dca4.jpg by jiel http://rg.foto.radikal.ru/0707/ca/806576f7166e.jpg from phosight.ru http://rh.foto.radikal.ru/0707/f5/12995e88e95a.jpg 22 апреля, с колеса обозрения. http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/p/368fd454901b6392fad72e4982885196/view.pic Нет, я Екатеринбуржец. Челябинск совсем рядом. Вот ещё фото 22 апреля http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/p/aaa21df25e853d19ffc8e797c1956806/view.pic http://www.e1.ru/fun/photo/view_pic.php/p/d02657d954b0d4fb9caaccdac995277c/view.pic Источник: http://e1.ru/fun/photo/view_album.php?id=85242 from http://foto.rambler.ru/users/lacost2010/_photos/1/ http://rd.foto.radikal.ru/0707/8b/1f4ea6606482.jpg dash wwa July 29th, 2007, 02:51 PM Warsaw in HDR:) http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img/23/9/download/984636.jpg vivii July 29th, 2007, 03:01 PM No, it's Kazan's Kremlin, UNESCO world heritage site, you ignorant retard. http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/980 sorry for my little joke. Without violence:drunk: The joke was stupid, however there is no reason to call somebody an „ignorant retard”. You could have reacted in different way! Let's respect each other pls. Dash wawa, great pic! krzysiu_ July 29th, 2007, 11:36 PM nice pic dash wwa Luka July 31st, 2007, 08:00 AM 2 more from Belgrade http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/kameni/DZ/4436fa85.jpg http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/kameni/DZ/452b073e.jpg ZimasterX July 31st, 2007, 08:25 AM ^^ How do the people living in the Genex Tower cope with the fact that there is a huge poster blocking their windows? Luka July 31st, 2007, 08:47 AM ^^ How do the people living in the Genex Tower cope with the fact that there is a huge poster blocking their windows? The advertisement is on the building where office space is located. The residential part of the building is on the right VelesHomais August 2nd, 2007, 03:23 AM Fresh from the Dnipro ;) http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/foto_day/07/08/02.jpg Komandant MarkJ August 2nd, 2007, 03:29 AM No skyline yet...but just imagine;) Belgrade.... http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1136/899104301_208669408c_o.jpg dash wwa August 2nd, 2007, 12:53 PM ^^nice pics:) new "mini cluster" is becoming in Warsaw:) http://www.stompi.neostrada.pl/Un/GD070801.jpg http://images29.fotosik.pl/13/100e451eb77868c8.jpg http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1110876.jpg http://images24.fotosik.pl/20/8c9d58ac0b5a650c.jpg Hepec August 3rd, 2007, 04:08 AM No skyline yet...but just imagine;) Belgrade.... http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1136/899104301_208669408c_o.jpg ^^^ Keep imagining....:lol: :ohno: God!!! Take a look at Belgrade people. There's like on 100m building and nothing else. The second tallest thing you have is your cathedral and bunch ofempty promises... Good luck Belgrade VelesHomais August 3rd, 2007, 06:37 AM It's a very nice picture. ZimasterX August 3rd, 2007, 06:53 AM ^^^ Keep imagining....:lol: :ohno: God!!! Take a look at Belgrade people. There's like on 100m building and nothing else. The second tallest thing you have is your cathedral and bunch ofempty promises... Good luck Belgrade I think Belgrade actually has three 100m buildings. And St. Sava's Cathedral isn't even 100m. Luka August 3rd, 2007, 08:19 AM ^^^ Keep imagining....:lol: :ohno: God!!! Take a look at Belgrade people. There's like on 100m building and nothing else. The second tallest thing you have is your cathedral and bunch ofempty promises... Good luck Belgrade Genex, Usce Tower 1, Beogradjanka all over 100m. Avala Tower which is under construction will be about 202m. nero August 3rd, 2007, 09:51 AM No skyline yet...but just imagine;) Belgrade.... http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1136/899104301_208669408c_o.jpg Amazing photo thx KM :cheers: vladorlando August 3rd, 2007, 04:34 PM http://img-2007-07.photosight.ru/31/2224448.jpg dirtyfinger August 3rd, 2007, 05:08 PM Warsaw http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070801_z_bloku_odolanska/070801_z_bloku_odolanska_5279.jpg http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070801_z_bloku_odolanska/070801_z_bloku_odolanska_5844.jpg http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070801_kopiec_pw/070801_kopiec_pw_5918.jpg http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070802_kopiec_pw/070802_kopiec_pw_5953.jpg Dux Uxorum August 3rd, 2007, 05:58 PM Warsaw is simply amazing! Quicksilver August 4th, 2007, 11:59 AM Dnipropetrovsk from gorod.dp.ua http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/foto_day/07/07/31.jpg vladorlando August 4th, 2007, 12:51 PM http://club.foto.ru/gallery/images/preview/2007/06/26/880289.jpg BaalNamib August 4th, 2007, 03:17 PM http://img-2007-07.photosight.ru/31/2224448.jpg Lovely :cheers: benek_gda August 4th, 2007, 05:00 PM Moscow is amazing, congrats Russians:cheers: mirza-sm August 4th, 2007, 07:52 PM Beat this, HA! :lol: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/Bosanska%20Krajina/P8046823.jpg :rofl: mirza-sm August 4th, 2007, 07:55 PM Holy crap at Moscow :eek2: :applause: lindenthaler August 5th, 2007, 12:22 AM ROFL Chisinau is a legend now :laugh: @Moscow great, @Hepec, Belgrade has actualy 6 100+, 3x eastgate, 1x ušće, 1 genex, 1 beogradjanka... but BGD doesnt has a skyline. I repeat my opinion that only Moscow, Warsaw, Chisinau and Vilnius have real skylines, other.. hm... Marek.kvackaj August 5th, 2007, 12:33 AM Here it go...Moscow is Back #1 Gummo August 5th, 2007, 01:29 AM Beat this, HA! :lol: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/Bosanska%20Krajina/P8046823.jpg :rofl: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: mirza-sm thanks for this fantastic pic!!!! :cheers: :cheers: 1. Chisinau 2. Moscow 3. Warsaw 4. Vilnius mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 03:13 AM ^^ LOL no problem :lol: im just glad i could help out by presenting such a fantastic skyline thats been IMHO underrated all this time :banana: :nuts: go chisinau go :lol: my TOP3: 1. Chisinau 2. Moscow 3. Warsaw :cheers: :D Marek.kvackaj August 5th, 2007, 03:24 AM what is that guy and pretty "CHisinau skysc." some Moldovan comedy episode, movie, weather episode, or fun or documentary? VelesHomais August 5th, 2007, 03:27 AM Beat this, HA! :lol: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/skyscraper_BiH/Bosanska%20Krajina/P8046823.jpg :rofl: :lol: I was looking for this :applause: VelesHomais August 5th, 2007, 03:30 AM what is that guy and pretty "CHisinau skysc." some Moldovan comedy episode, movie, weather episode, or fun or documentary? It's from Eurovision, everybody had real city skylines behind them, while Moldova used a poster of New York :) mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 03:30 AM what is that guy and pretty "CHisinau skysc." some Moldovan comedy episode, movie, weather episode, or fun or documentary? It was when Moldovan spokesperson (the guy on the screen) was reading the Moldovan votes for EuroSong :lol: that behind him,is apparently Chisinau :lol: :lol: :lol: btw Slovakia doesnt participate in the EuroSong,but can u watch it on Slovakian television?? Marek.kvackaj August 5th, 2007, 03:30 AM nnooo Slovakia was only one time 1996 do You wanna talk about that...is was sooo sadd.. mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 03:31 AM :lol: I was looking for this :applause: :lol: ;) Marek.kvackaj August 5th, 2007, 03:33 AM I think We (Slovakia) was last i EuroSong "contest" in YEAR 1996 Yes in all history of EuroSong only once ... and we got only 1 Vote from Czech. rep. - but Im not sure ... mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 03:36 AM but slovakia isnt participating at the eurosong :dunno: Marek.kvackaj August 5th, 2007, 03:36 AM EuroSong contest wasnt in Slovak news this years 2007 ..no news in newsparers, in Tv, not even news in Radio...only I know about this EuroSong contests ( Belegrade cit and Serbian won) from this site SSC!! and this is weird init? mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 03:36 AM oh i didnt see the post above sorry :D so u didnt participate since 1996?? Marek.kvackaj August 5th, 2007, 03:55 AM nope.. maybe in future...but I dont think here (Slovakia) is big interest in this competition,I think will help more publicity to this contest here and If some people know contest (like me) then dont know what kind of music have to represent us (what style - techno, hip hop, rock, classisc, or ska)..is hard to pick JUST one Crew(group) to represent Slovak nation in this contest.. even if have sing Slovak or English or ? VelesHomais August 5th, 2007, 06:31 AM Eurovision isn't so much about the music as it is about intrigues and country vs country relations lindenthaler August 5th, 2007, 12:03 PM Hey we could propose this SSC banner :cheers: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5294/chisinauyf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 02:01 PM ^^ hahahahha YEAH !! :D lol plz do Stevo :rofl: Luka August 5th, 2007, 02:13 PM :lol: :okay: Gummo August 5th, 2007, 05:43 PM Hey we could propose this SSC banner :cheers: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5294/chisinauyf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :cheers: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :lol: :lol: :lol: VelesHomais August 5th, 2007, 06:02 PM :rofl: Cosmin August 5th, 2007, 06:16 PM Eurovision blows! mirza-sm August 5th, 2007, 06:21 PM Eurovision blows! for a country participating only for 2 years now seems like u had so soon enough of it :nuts: Cosmin August 5th, 2007, 10:41 PM Romania first participated in 1994, so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not Bulgarian. mirza-sm August 6th, 2007, 02:10 AM ^^ oh right,sorry, i mixed up RO with BG ;) Darhet August 6th, 2007, 02:28 AM by AUTO -NIG-HPZa1s 8a_wr37gjgQ&mode and very sad movie- after Warsaw Uprising (1944) movie is from 1945 i5WtMXk04_c dash wwa August 6th, 2007, 02:23 PM after warsaw uprising 85% of city was destroyed. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b169/seulemente/OrphanRuins1.jpg mirza-sm August 6th, 2007, 04:29 PM holy crap thats worse than Sarajevo :uh: Darhet August 6th, 2007, 04:47 PM Population in 1939 and 1945 1939: 1,300,000 1941: 1 350 000 1942: 1 027 000 1943: 956 000 1944: 165 000 !!! after Warsaw_Uprising 1945 IX 422 000 2007 1 722 000 and urban agglomeration 2,600 000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/%7Ewhatfor/aa4/b184.jpg http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/%7Ewhatfor/aa4/b316.jpg http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/%7Ewhatfor/aa4/b318.jpg http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/%7Ewhatfor/aa4/b319.jpg http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/%7Ewhatfor/aa5/b575.jpg http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/%7Ewhatfor/aa5/b564.jpg by Cichus1: http://www.powstanie-warszawskie-1944.ac.pl/aa3/wilson3.gif http://www.powstanie-warszawskie-1944.ac.pl/aa1/wilson_3.gif http://www.powstanie-warszawskie-1944.ac.pl/aa1/wilson_4.gif rakim August 6th, 2007, 09:54 PM new Warsaw cluster by timit http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/timit_timit/ssc/P1050151.jpg nebunul August 7th, 2007, 05:39 PM Bucharest today ... http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6049/1234555555sz8.png (http://imageshack.us) Gamma-Hamster August 7th, 2007, 06:11 PM Moscow By igor: http://rm.foto.radikal.ru/0708/be/73da62329c26.jpg By Inspirit: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9417/city5ptra7.jpg mirza-sm August 7th, 2007, 06:41 PM MOSCOOOOOOOOOW :drool: :bow: :nuts: :cheers: :banana: :crazy: :bow: :drool: I`m lovin iiiiiiiiiit! :cheers: zzibit August 7th, 2007, 06:51 PM the Federation tower looks effin' sleek. awesome ;) Tuzin August 7th, 2007, 11:22 PM http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/Panoramy/2007_08_07/2007_08_07_-_Warszawa_-_Al_Jana_Pawla_II.jpg (c) Pstrykacz Petr August 8th, 2007, 12:48 AM This pic shouldn't be passed over. Warsaw Uprising anniversary with skyline in the background by michau: http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2007/070801_kopiec_pw/070801_kopiec_pw_5920.jpg Gummo August 8th, 2007, 01:24 AM ^^ wonderful Dulgeroff August 8th, 2007, 01:28 AM Moscow By igor: http://rm.foto.radikal.ru/0708/be/73da62329c26.jpg By Inspirit: http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9417/city5ptra7.jpg These Russian towers look better than anything else currently in EE. Great stuff from the Ruskies! :) soloveich August 8th, 2007, 02:18 AM Moscow http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9801/2221334en1.jpg BaalNamib August 8th, 2007, 08:57 AM ^^I've seen that's pics in previous pages... But second Hdr of Moscow City is wonderful :cheers: tomi1975 August 8th, 2007, 10:43 AM These Russian towers look better than anything else currently in EE. Great stuff from the Ruskies! :) I doubt it. Is is the tallest skyline in EE - that is obvious.... But lets talk about quality of architecture, everything there is average or poor, anyway, in the night time when you see just lights it will look impressive. In terms of skyline I can agree - now it is the tallest skyline in EE. But not the best quality architecture.IMHO dash wwa August 8th, 2007, 11:42 AM http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9801/2221334en1.jpg tower on the left are amazing! But this blue tower on the right is ugly Brad August 8th, 2007, 12:46 PM But this blue tower on the right is uglyI would hardly call it a tower. It has only 27 floors. For the super tall cluster it is not many. Dulgeroff August 8th, 2007, 03:28 PM I doubt it. Is is the tallest skyline in EE - that is obvious.... But lets talk about quality of architecture, everything there is average or poor, anyway, in the night time when you see just lights it will look impressive. In terms of skyline I can agree - now it is the tallest skyline in EE. But not the best quality architecture.IMHO IMHO the Federation towers are very high quality, both in terms of architectural design and current constructive execution. In fact, I can't think of any other tower(s) in EE that is/are of seemingly better quality. Just because it's in Russia doesn't mean you should see it in negative light. :cheers: tomi1975 August 8th, 2007, 04:50 PM Just because it's in Russia doesn't mean you should see it in negative light. :cheers: Who says so? If anybody is thinking in such categories it is you. I judge architecture and only architecture and I don't find those buildings competitive to what is in planning/construction in UK, States, Germany. Maybe it will change in the future, there are some Fosters and Hadid's plans for Moscow, so we will see. In terms of design quality (not height or density of skyline) i prefer R1 in Warsaw or proposed (under construction) Zlota 44 - and please do not say that it is becouse I'm polish.... I can say a lot of critical words about polish cities and architecture.... Height is not everything. Tomesh August 8th, 2007, 05:09 PM regarding Federation tower i am really disappointed with the cladding ! I love everything else but when I saw the cladding i didnt like it. Just next to it you have an an example of cladding with which it would look much better ! vladorlando August 8th, 2007, 06:15 PM http://rf.foto.radikal.ru/0708/6b/edd56e1ee900.jpg Dux Uxorum August 8th, 2007, 06:51 PM I'm not a student of architecture or anything such, but I would agree with Dulgeroff on this one. This whole complex in Moscow looks very well done and it's very modern as well. Dulgeroff August 8th, 2007, 08:03 PM Who says so? If anybody is thinking in such categories it is you. I judge architecture and only architecture and I don't find those buildings competitive to what is in planning/construction in UK, States, Germany. Maybe it will change in the future, there are some Fosters and Hadid's plans for Moscow, so we will see. In terms of design quality (not height or density of skyline) i prefer R1 in Warsaw or proposed (under construction) Zlota 44 - and please do not say that it is becouse I'm polish.... I can say a lot of critical words about polish cities and architecture.... Height is not everything. Don't back-track now, this is what you said regarding Russia: But lets talk about quality of architecture, everything there is average or poor... BTW, how am I thinking in such categories? Please quote me where I've generalized the architecture of an entire country as low quality like you did! BTW, R1 is nice, and likely Zlota will be great, but that still doesn't mean it's better than Russia's architecture, which in your opinion is "average or poor." No matter how you say it, I think these buildings are done very well and frankly I don't think you can say that Moscow is not competitive. The city has more billionaires and millionaires than all of Poland and their oil and gas money can help them build the kind of CBD that any other EE country can only dream of, including yours. Your hatred of anything Russian is obvious, because if you were objective you would have at the very least said they are nice skyscrapers. Finally, if anything like this was being built in Warsaw you and your SSC compatriots would have already posted 1000 pictures of them telling the rest of us how amazing it all was... Just look at this thread and its two predecessors, your inferiority complex is ridiculous and quite funny for the rest of us. Dux Uxorum August 8th, 2007, 09:51 PM Not to sound or act as a peacemaker, but as much as I agree with Dulgeroff on the quality/beauty of new Moscow towers, I can also see why the Polish forumers would put tons of Warsaw skyline photos. I mean, the city is beautiful, right? Sure, there is a hint of panic or jealousy in some people that Moscow or another Russian city will take over the title of the "Skyscraper capital" of EE, but there's nothing wrong about the healthy competition. Anyhow, if I were Warsawian (or the Moscowite for that matter), I'd be proud how great my city looks like and hope that other (foreign cities included) cities in the region become that good looking as well. For example, even though I am Serb (from Bosnia), it's still very good to see how Sarajevo is progressing quickly, while unfortunately, we still have idiots in charge in Belgrade who do not understand that this is the 21 century and that there should be no limits on "how tall the verticals should be". Regards to all and keep posting cool photos! Petr August 8th, 2007, 10:00 PM BTW, how am I thinking in such categories? Please quote me where I've generalized the architecture of an entire country as low quality like you did! BTW, R1 is nice, and likely Zlota will be great, but that still doesn't mean it's better than Russia's architecture, which in your opinion is "average or poor." No matter how you say it, I think these buildings are done very well and frankly I don't think you can say that Moscow is not competitive. The city has more billionaires and millionaires than all of Poland and their oil and gas money can help them build the kind of CBD that any other EE country can only dream of, including yours. Your hatred of anything Russian is obvious, because if you were objective you would have at the very least said they are nice skyscrapers. Finally, if anything like this was being built in Warsaw you and your SSC compatriots would have already posted 1000 pictures of them telling the rest of us how amazing it all was... Just look at this thread and its two predecessors, your inferiority complex is ridiculous and quite funny for the rest of us. Money doesn't mean taste. In fact when you hire average architects, You should expect average architecture. Out of two complexes which we can already judge, Federation Tower is very good (imho comparable with rondo 1) but not 10/10. Набережная is noting special and far from the greatest world projects. I really dislike its cladding, I mean glass and panels. And I'm very critical when it comes to the Warsaw towers, some of them are simply ugly, majority is average. I love to post new pics of Warsaw, but I never say Warsaw "towers look better than anything else currently in EE". Blok August 8th, 2007, 10:23 PM I can also see why the Polish forumers would put tons of Warsaw skyline photos. we have nothing better to do:banana: tzoobee August 8th, 2007, 10:36 PM Not to sound or act as a peacemaker, but as much as I agree with Dulgeroff on the quality/beauty of new Moscow towers, I can also see why the Polish forumers would put tons of Warsaw skyline photos. I mean, the city is beautiful, right? Sure, there is a hint of panic or jealousy in some people that Moscow or another Russian city will take over the title of the "Skyscraper capital" of EE, but there's nothing wrong about the healthy competition. Anyhow, if I were Warsawian (or the Moscowite for that matter), I'd be proud how great my city looks like and hope that other (foreign cities included) cities in the region become that good looking as well. For example, even though I am Serb (from Bosnia), it's still very good to see how Sarajevo is progressing quickly, while unfortunately, we still have idiots in charge in Belgrade who do not understand that this is the 21 century and that there should be no limits on "how tall the verticals should be". Regards to all and keep posting cool photos! If you are from Bosnia mind your own business and who gives you the right to call anyone idiot? VelesHomais August 8th, 2007, 10:44 PM Not again with the Polish-Bulgarian flame wars! Anyway, Moscow skyline looks swell! Gummo August 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM Not again with the Polish-Bulgarian flame wars! Anyway, Moscow skyline looks swell! Polish-Dulgeroff flame wars BG_PATRIOT August 8th, 2007, 10:51 PM Not again with the Polish-Bulgarian flame wars! Anyway, Moscow skyline looks swell! I don't remember having participated in this campaign...I do remember the Serbian-Bulgarian, Bosnian-Bulgarian, Macedonian-Bulgarian and if I am not mistaken the South Slavic-Albanian flame wars but Polish-Bulgarian...Anyhow I guess we should try it one day :lol: tomi1975 August 8th, 2007, 11:03 PM Don't back-track now, this is what you said regarding Russia: BTW, how am I thinking in such categories? Please quote me where I've generalized the architecture of an entire country as low quality like you did! BTW, R1 is nice, and likely Zlota will be great, but that still doesn't mean it's better than Russia's architecture, which in your opinion is "average or poor." No matter how you say it, I think these buildings are done very well and frankly I don't think you can say that Moscow is not competitive. The city has more billionaires and millionaires than all of Poland and their oil and gas money can help them build the kind of CBD that any other EE country can only dream of, including yours. Your hatred of anything Russian is obvious, because if you were objective you would have at the very least said they are nice skyscrapers. Finally, if anything like this was being built in Warsaw you and your SSC compatriots would have already posted 1000 pictures of them telling the rest of us how amazing it all was... Just look at this thread and its two predecessors, your inferiority complex is ridiculous and quite funny for the rest of us. No you're totaly wrong, I said so regarding to shown buildings and only to shown buildings. I don't care if they are built in Moscow, Warsaw or anywhere else - I was judging architecture and only architecture. Got it? Next time read with understandig. I know that Russia has great modernistic traditons and Moscow is fascinating city. For you judging couple of building means judging all nation? That's stupid... Show me where I wrote that architecture of entire country has low quality? You see what you want to see, hat's your problem with my post. I only said that in my opinion architecture of R1 is better than of those shown buildings even if hey are taller, I can say the same about Warsaw's and London's scrapers. London has mostly waaay better modern buildings than my city. If you will say so I won't start crying that somebody is judging all nation.:lol: And finally if anybody is ridicullus it's guys like you, who think that know what are others thoughts. On my few words you've built big theory of Polish complex and my hatred for Russian nation. This is extremely primitive thinkng. Mind that this forum is about architecture and allows anybody to criticise any building they don't like. I know it takes time for you to learn it - but don't give up, one day it will happen... And stop posting these bull...s about billionaires, oil, etc. - you want to show how big Russia is and how small the rest of EE is? What a guy...:ohno: EOT Blok August 8th, 2007, 11:04 PM ^^ ^^ check out "Best Skylines in Eastern Europe II" tomi1975 August 8th, 2007, 11:14 PM what for? benek_gda August 8th, 2007, 11:29 PM I don't remember having participated in this campaign...I do remember the Serbian-Bulgarian, Bosnian-Bulgarian, Macedonian-Bulgarian and if I am not mistaken the South Slavic-Albanian flame wars but Polish-Bulgarian...Anyhow I guess we should try it one day :lol: So, you must have missed really pointless discussion concerning which country is older, which is richer, where are more intelligent or famous people :lol: Dulgeroff, don't start again and polish forumers don't help him with destroing this thread. End of offtop. Moscow skyline is really impressive to me but still not so dense like this in Warsaw. Although I have no doubt in few years Moscow will be rather in the first place in EE. Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 12:49 AM ^^ I'll say anything that I believe in and you are certainly no one important to me so don't tell me what not to do in order to preserve the harmonius balance of delusional grandeur in your fragile heart. Next time you try to sound so moral and ethical consider the fact that I've been a member here for a long time and have never been banned unlike the idiot I argued with in the predecessor of this thread. Yes Gummo, you've been banned many times before! What does that tell you? Anyway, the problem with many of the Polish forumners is that you've posted way too many photos of Warsaw, always showing the same buildings. Afterall Warsaw's skyline does not have 1000 towers. The other interesting fact is that everytime somebody from another nation posts pictures of high-quality skyscrapers, you are the first to say that they are not as nice as R1 or more recently Zlota. The main competitors of Warsaw in the EE skyline department are Istanbul and Moscow, and that's why they are always put down in one way or another. If I have to prove my point I'll post the comments from Polish members saying Istanbul's skyscrapers look like cheap Asian architecture that although built on the European continent are not European cause Turkey is a Muslim and mostly Middle-Eastern country, or Moscow's being crap because everything Russian is crap. Great job, very nice of you! That's pathetic anyway you look at it. But yeah, if this is the Dulgeroff vs. Poland war as you call it, bring it on! Good thing you boys need to get together in big groups to take me on... :lol: Gummo August 9th, 2007, 01:05 AM ^^ I'll say anything that I believe in and you are certainly no one important to me so don't tell me what not to do in order to preserve the harmonius balance of delusional grandeur in your fragile heart. Next time you try to sound so moral and ethical consider the fact that I've been a member here for a long time and have never been banned unlike the idiot I argued with in the predecessor of this thread. Yes Gummo, you've been banned many times before! What does that tell you? Anyway, the problem with many of the Polish forumners is that you've posted way too many photos of Warsaw, always showing the same buildings. Afterall Warsaw's skyline does not have 1000 towers. The other interesting fact is that everytime somebody from another nation posts pictures of high-quality skyscrapers, you are the first to say that they are not as nice as R1 or more recently Zlota. The main competitors of Warsaw in the EE skyline department are Istanbul and Moscow, and that's why they are always put down in one way or another. If I have to prove my point I'll post the comments from Polish members saying Istanbul's skyscrapers look like cheap Asian architecture that although built on the European continent are not European cause Turkey is a Muslim and mostly Middle-Eastern country, or Moscow's being crap because everything Russian is crap. Great job, very nice of you! That's pathetic anyway you look at it. But yeah, if this is the Dulgeroff vs. Poland war as you call it, bring it on! Good thing you boys need to get together in big groups to take me on... :lol: Again? What is your problem, retarded? Sexual Frustration? What an Idiot! Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:08 AM ^^ Again? What is your problem, retarded? Sexual Frustration? What an Idiot! LOL, I guess you want to get banned again. :lol: :cheers: Gummo August 9th, 2007, 01:09 AM ^^ LOL, I guess you want to get banned again. :lol: :cheers: hahahahaha I think you will be banned Gummo Join Date: May 2005 Dulgeroff Join Date: Jul 2005 What a boring guy..GOD Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:11 AM ^^ Oh don't pretend, the moderators themselves said that you have been banned numerous times. Here's a quote from 3tmk regarding you: known troll and spammer we've banned multiple times. Gummo August 9th, 2007, 01:13 AM ^^ Oh don't pretend, the moderators themselves said that you have been banned numerous times. Here's a quote from 3tmk ragrding you: Try...You are the bulgarian version KM :lol: Bulgarians arent problem...the only problem here is You...one frustrated guy It started with one frustrated guy Gummo August 9th, 2007, 01:20 AM Its sad Guys who suffer from inferior complex like you... :ohno: Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:27 AM Yes, it's better to be the Bulgarian version of KM than a known troll who's been banned numerous times. :) But yeah, I'll just continue doing what I do (oppose what I view as unjust behaviour), and you will obviously continue doing what you do: getting banned! (again) :D Gummo August 9th, 2007, 01:29 AM Yes, it's better to be the Bulgarian version of KM than a known troll who's been banned numerous times. :) ohhhhh..you are so smart :ohno: you are only troll here..trolling..trollin...trolling :lol: :lol: BTW...KM is a cool guy but you arent Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:31 AM you are so smart Thanks! You aren't! :) Gummo August 9th, 2007, 01:33 AM Thanks! You aren't! :) Well, you dont know what irony is...my friend with small brain? I repeat...its sad Guys who suffer from inferior complex like you...a little frustrated guy Sad, sad, sad :goodnight :baeh3: Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:38 AM Considering how much I like the Federation Towers in Moscow I decided to do some research on the project. It turns out that the architects are NPS Tchoban Voss, so in fact the building is designed to the highest standards by a prestigious German architectural firm. Here's a link to their website: http://www.nps-tchoban-voss.de/ Well that just solves everything! The design of the towers is top notch afterall and I am very happy to have learned more about this project. I was right about my afirmations regarding its quality all along. :) To all the Russian members, please post more photos of this project as I am very happy that EE will finally have some real supertall and incredibly beautiful skyscrapers. :D Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:43 AM I find the cladding to be especially high quality. Great job! http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4531/nabtow3ki5.jpg Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:55 AM Here are some more beautiful pictures of the Federation complex other modern Russian buildings in the near vicinity: http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4774/30158182gu8.jpg http://r.foto.radikal.ru/0706/aa/2896689f1f1a.jpg http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/972/24nc0.jpg http://skyscrapers.ru/gallery/d/10074-1/mos_44.jpg http://pics.livejournal.com/free_fancy/pic/000465p1 http://i11.tinypic.com/6f7qjc6.jpg http://alb.gallery.ru/gallery/0000018728-50137-3606497-778.jpg Finally, construction has begun on the 250m Twist Tower: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2/sashok10.0/0_1949_3ea9dda0 Here's wha it will look like upon completion: http://www.city-palace.ru/city_view_03.jpg http://www.city-palace.ru/city_view_10.jpg http://www.city-palace.ru/city_view_12.jpg http://www.city-palace.ru/city_view_24.jpg Absolutely awesome! :cheers: VelesHomais August 9th, 2007, 01:56 AM Let's have a Ukrainian-Bulgarian flame war. Svyatoslav, the ruler of Kyivan Empire, brought First Bulgarian Empire in 10th century to its knees, he also subdued the Volga Bulgars. How does that make you feel? :D Unfortunately there aren't any more recent examples of tense relations... however, we can blame you for inventing the Russian language which later on caused many problems Anto. August 9th, 2007, 01:59 AM Great Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 01:59 AM Let's have a Ukrainian-Bulgarian flame war. Svyatoslav, the ruler of Kyivan Empire, brought First Bulgarian Empire in 10th century to its knees, he also subdued the Volga Bulgars. How does that make you feel? :D Unfortunately there aren't any more recent examples of tense relations... however, we can blame you for inventing the Russian language which later on caused many problems LOL, probably the same way that you feel everytime you write in Cyrillic or speak for that matter. Afterall, you adopted the literary culture of the descendents of these same Bulgars. :) :D And plus, they were there in Ukraine for a long time raping/making love to the beautiful Ukranian Slavic girls, so I guess you are also their partial descendent and thus you might as well not have a flame war with your own blood brothers. :lol: Gamma-Hamster August 9th, 2007, 02:04 AM Svyatoslav, the ruler of Kyivan Empire, brought First Bulgarian Empire in 10th century to its knees, he also subdued the Volga Bulgars. Yeah, Ancient Russia rocked, but i do not understand what it have to do with todays Ukraine...:lol: VelesHomais August 9th, 2007, 02:09 AM LOL, probably the same way that you feel everytime you write in Cyrillic or speak for that matter. Afterall, you adopted the literary culture of the descendents of these same Bulgars. :) :D And plus, they were there in Ukraine for a long time raping/making love to the beautiful Ukranian Slavic girls, so I guess you are also their partial descendent and thus you might as well not have a flame war with your own blood brothers. :lol: Okay, you win :( This was the shortest flame war ever. VelesHomais August 9th, 2007, 02:10 AM Yeah, Ancient Russia rocked, but i do not understand what it have to do with todays Ukraine...:lol: Ancient Russia was somewhere over there ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/LocationMongolia.png/800px-LocationMongolia.png Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 02:12 AM Okay, you win :( This was the shortest flame war ever.I got you back after 10 centuries of waiting and planning for a retaliation! Now I'm taking back Ukraine and I am happy to say that the girls are still beautiful. :cheers: Gamma-Hamster August 9th, 2007, 02:13 AM Ancient Russia was somewhere over there ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/LocationMongolia.png/800px-LocationMongolia.png Surely not, we conquered that much later. But since 140.000 years ago Ancient Ukrainians from Atlantis owned entire world, that sounds like their territoy Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 02:15 AM Oh shit, it's the orange revolutionary vs. the guy who planted a Russian flag on the north pole. Gamma-Hamster August 9th, 2007, 02:18 AM Oh shit, it's the orange revolutionary vs. the guy who planted a Russian flag on the north pole. Yeah, thats not some boring stuff like Polish-Bulgarian flame war VelesHomais August 9th, 2007, 02:33 AM Surely not, we conquered that much later. But since 140.000 years ago Ancient Ukrainians from Atlantis owned entire world, that sounds like their territoy This is my answer to you gKpk4-tAzs4 ZimasterX August 9th, 2007, 02:50 AM Ancient Russia was somewhere over there ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/LocationMongolia.png/800px-LocationMongolia.png Oh come on, about half the people who claim themselves to be Slavs are actually Turkic, and Im not talking about just in Russia. Anyways an EE skyline..... http://i16.tinypic.com/5xh5s91.jpg Petr August 9th, 2007, 03:45 AM Anyway, the problem with many of the Polish forumners is that you've posted way too many photos of Warsaw, always showing the same buildings. Afterall Warsaw's skyline does not have 1000 towers. The other interesting fact is that everytime somebody from another nation posts pictures of high-quality skyscrapers, you are the first to say that they are not as nice as R1 or more recently Zlota. The main competitors of Warsaw in the EE skyline department are Istanbul and Moscow, and that's why they are always put down in one way or another. If I have to prove my point I'll post the comments from Polish members saying Istanbul's skyscrapers look like cheap Asian architecture that although built on the European continent are not European cause Turkey is a Muslim and mostly Middle-Eastern country, or Moscow's being crap because everything Russian is crap. Great job, very nice of you! That's pathetic anyway you look at it. But yeah, if this is the Dulgeroff vs. Poland war as you call it, bring it on! Good thing you boys need to get together in big groups to take me on... :lol: :fiddle: This thread is opened to let people "always show the same buildings" in their cities, since EE cities including Moscow don't "have 1000 towers". If You're not interested in it, then don't watch this thread. Istanbul and Moscow aren't "always put down in one way or another". Only type of comments: "look better than anything else currently" cause other comments, as always on this forum. I find the cladding to be especially high quality. Great job! http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4531/nabtow3ki5.jpg Then You have different taste than most of the Poles, because that type of the cladding is strongly criticized on the Polish forum. Why should I be silent, when I see it in Moscow? Is this forum for discussions about architecture, or for what? Considering how much I like the Federation Towers in Moscow I decided to do some research on the project. It turns out that the architects are NPS Tchoban Voss, so in fact the building is designed to the highest standards by a prestigious German architectural firm. Here's a link to their website: http://www.nps-tchoban-voss.de/ Well that just solves everything! The design of the towers is top notch afterall and I am very happy to have learned more about this project. I was right about my afirmations regarding its quality all along. :) FT is a good project indeed, and no wonder other project of this studio are fine too. But Neberezhnaya was designed by some architects specialized in the mass production of mediocre architecture. http://www.rtkl.com/portfolio.asp?s=Workplace&ss=Investment+Buildings&St=0 IMHO the difference in the quality is visible from the first sight. 3tmk August 9th, 2007, 03:59 AM I'm going to pretend I don't know what's going on around here :D Oekraїne August 9th, 2007, 04:16 AM Ancient Russia was somewhere over there ;) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/LocationMongolia.png/800px-LocationMongolia.png Its funny because its true!!! soloveich August 9th, 2007, 04:31 AM Its funny because its true!!! don't you think that those types of face are not alike at all? http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/4723/l8dcf5235893f899b570edebf2.jpg http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9505/mongolianmusicianxr4.jpg Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 06:22 AM :fiddle: This thread is opened to let people "always show the same buildings" in their cities, since EE cities including Moscow don't "have 1000 towers". If You're not interested in it, then don't watch this thread. Istanbul and Moscow aren't "always put down in one way or another". Only type of comments: "look better than anything else currently" cause other comments, as always on this forum. Then You have different taste than most of the Poles, because that type of the cladding is strongly criticized on the Polish forum. Why should I be silent, when I see it in Moscow? Is this forum for discussions about architecture, or for what? FT is a good project indeed, and no wonder other project of this studio are fine too. But Neberezhnaya was designed by some architects specialized in the mass production of mediocre architecture. http://www.rtkl.com/portfolio.asp?s=Workplace&ss=Investment+Buildings&St=0 IMHO the difference in the quality is visible from the first sight. So all Polish forumners think the same way? You all have the same taste in cladding? Sounds like Communism is back, eh? Right, gottcha! I'm sure the German architects feel the same way...:lol: Tell me, since you defend your compatriots and your former comments, please tell me why you didn't say from the very beginning that Federation Tower's cladding didn't fit your taste rather than make comments about the quality of cladding? Hate to break it to you, but taste and quality are two very different things! BTW, I am interested in the thread and that's why from now on I will post as many pics as I can find of EE skylines that I like. I will do Istanbul next and then I'll go back to Moscow. I'll basically oscillate between the two for your viewing pleasure.:) BaalNamib August 9th, 2007, 09:42 AM Guys... please STOP!!! :( tomi1975 August 9th, 2007, 12:02 PM Thanks Durgeloff, by postig pictures of crappy, average (but tall, ok) buildings and calling them top design or something like that you've shown your ignorance in terms of modern architecture. World class architecture takes place in other part of world than Moscow and mostly all EE (this is sad for me too), for the moment becouse in the future it should change together with some Foster, Zaha Hadid proposals for Moscow and other proposals for Warsaw, Bratislava, etc.. For the moment sorry guys but there is nothing unusual in that cluster. Size is imressive, that's obvious, skyline starts looking nice but quality of architecture itself is mid 90', bad 90'. German office you've linked is not top architectural practice, it is just another big, commercial office, thats all. And after all, that speach about polish-russian or other country war is just stupid. Lets talk about architecture independentely from nationalism. We should not be afraid of cristicising/adoring buildings, lets forget about our nationalities for the moment. Gamma-Hamster August 9th, 2007, 12:30 PM lets forget about our nationalities for the moment. Sorry, but this is not possible, this cannot be a coincedence that people from world forums don't find Federation Tower "crappy", but people from Polish forums do. So, please, return to drooling at god-fucking terrible boxes of Warsaw and stop barking at cities that have some real architecture going on. :yes: tomi1975 August 9th, 2007, 12:50 PM Sorry, but this is not possible, this cannot be a coincedence that people from world forums don't find Federation Tower "crappy", but people from Polish forums do. So, please, return to drooling at god-fucking terrible boxes of Warsaw and stop barking at cities that have some real architecture going on. :yes: No comments. If you want to discuss at this level than I quit... :lol: There is only one "proper" way of thinking : Federation Tower is the best. If you have different opinion then you that bad. Sorry lads, comunism is over, diversity of opinions makes world more interesting, but this is strange for you. Ok. I quit as I said. Gamma-Hamster August 9th, 2007, 12:52 PM Federation Tower is the best. Exactly.:) Ok. I quit as I said. Try not to come back :yes: Petr August 9th, 2007, 12:55 PM So all Polish forumners think the same way? You all have the same taste in cladding? Sounds like Communism is back, eh? Right, gottcha! I'm sure the German architects feel the same way...:lol: It means that discussions on the Polish forum impact taste of the users. Our section is huge and incomparable with EE section. We know each other for a long time also personally, we respect each other's opinions, and our discussions have impact on all participants and readers. In some situations like in all communities active majority can impose its opinion about some building on the rest. Tell me, since you defend your compatriots and your former comments, please tell me why you didn't say from the very beginning that Federation Tower's cladding didn't fit your taste rather than make comments about the quality of cladding? Hate to break it to you, but taste and quality are two very different things! And from the beginning I'm complaining not about FT cladding but about Neberezhnaya cladding, which is cheap even in terms of cost. For example much cheaper than those of FT. But there is also more expensive glass than those of FT and Rondo 1 in Warsaw. We had a huge discussion about quality and prices of facades some years ago, during construction of the Rondo 1. :) BTW, I am interested in the thread and that's why from now on I will post as many pics as I can find of EE skylines that I like. I will do Istanbul next and then I'll go back to Moscow. I'll basically oscillate between the two for your viewing pleasure.:) I'm waiting impatiently, because I have never enough of skyline photos, especially from the region which is most interesting for me. :) tomi1975 August 9th, 2007, 01:05 PM Exactly.:) Try not to come back :yes: :lol: mirza-sm August 9th, 2007, 09:24 PM oh cmon guys stop fightin bout some stupid things. both cities have great scrapers which other EE cities wont be able to catch up with years and years ahead :D so shut up,and be nice to each other already! :D RawLee August 9th, 2007, 09:34 PM Your high-rises/skyscrapers look awesome,not like the american ones... Good luck preserving taste! tomi1975 August 9th, 2007, 11:22 PM oh cmon guys stop fightin bout some stupid things. both cities have great scrapers which other EE cities wont be able to catch up with years and years ahead :D so shut up,and be nice to each other already! :D Good point, but some narrow - minded guys dont allow other forumers to have their own opinion. Dulgeroff August 9th, 2007, 11:37 PM ^^ The most narrow-minded are those whose opinions are extreme and blindly nationalistic.:weird: For example, referring to good skyscrapers as "crappy" simply because they are rising in the capitol of their former masters. The most open-minded on the other hand are those who can remove all emotional static from their torn minds and simply be as objective as humanly possible, even when it involves complimenting a perceived enemy. In doing so, I can certainly say that Moscow, Istanbul and Warsaw all have nice skyscrapers! Be that as it may, the Federation Towers are MY favourite in EE thus far! The future on the other hand is enigmatic and uncertain, and no one knows for sure what our cities will look like in 20 years. My hope is that we'll all be reaching for the skies. :cheers: polskadan August 10th, 2007, 01:04 AM ^^ The most narrow-minded are those whose opinions are extreme and blindly nationalistic.:weird: For example, referring to good skyscrapers as "crappy" simply because they are rising in the capitol of their former masters. The most open-minded on the other hand are those who can remove all emotional static from their torn minds and simply be as objective as humanly possible, even when it involves complimenting a perceived enemy. In doing so, I can certainly say that Moscow, Istanbul and Warsaw all have nice skyscrapers! Be that as it may, the Federation Towers are MY favourite in EE thus far! The future on the other hand is enigmatic and uncertain, and no one knows for sure what our cities will look like in 20 years. My hope is that we'll all be reaching for the skies. :cheers: Hey dulgeroff just end it already, everyone has a right to their own opinion and just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean that you have to snap on some online forum. "rising in the capitol of their former masters" Haha...what commie book are you reading now?? Man and I bet you have a B.A. don't you? Can I see some pictures of skylines now? Dulgeroff August 10th, 2007, 01:20 AM Polskadan, If anyone is snapping it's the likes of you when someone says something nice about Russia. And yes you have your opinions and so do I, so what are you asking me to drop? My opinion? You're not a very bright hypocrit are you! LOL, speaking of the pictures that you want to see, I've posted many, so just go through the threads in the past few years before you were a member. Or for that matter just look at the pictures I posted on the previous page of this thread. Go and enjoy the pics of the beautiful, quickly rising and already tallest skyline of EE located in MOSCOW. :lol: One last thing, for someone like you with 28 posts and not even a year membership here, I'd say if you want to see more get your lazy fingers clicking and post them yourself! :weirdo: Petr August 10th, 2007, 01:37 AM ^^ The most narrow-minded are those whose opinions are extreme and blindly nationalistic.:weird: For example, referring to good skyscrapers as "crappy" simply because they are rising in the capitol of their former masters. The most open-minded on the other hand are those who can remove all emotional static from their torn minds and simply be as objective as humanly possible, even when it involves complimenting a perceived enemy. In doing so, I can certainly say that Moscow, Istanbul and Warsaw all have nice skyscrapers! Be that as it may, the Federation Towers are MY favourite in EE thus far! The future on the other hand is enigmatic and uncertain, and no one knows for sure what our cities will look like in 20 years. My hope is that we'll all be reaching for the skies. :cheers: And You are first blinded by Your stereotypes. Openness is a very popular ideology since the Enlightenment. Most of self declared open minded people are very intolerant towards people with different views and tend to call them blind... Some of them believe they are right, some are just hypocrites... Dulgeroff August 10th, 2007, 04:32 AM ^^ Oh, so what you are saying is that nationalistic and extreme views should not be challenged! Wonderful view there Petr! Except with this last statement you simply prove yourself to be in the very same category of hypocrites, because the last time that people were afraid to challenge these kinds of views, Europe and indeed the world became embroiled in a war. If you are confused think Germany and their pre-WWII views on Jews, Slavs (particularly Poles), etc... ... So you just keep digging and digging, whilst not willing to see that many of your countrymen are no different today than those that did you so much harm in the past. And of course I'm not just talking about hot wars, the cold one fits my post just as well. The only problem is that the past is no excuse for your present behaviour, rather a valuable lesson that should force your buddies to not repeat the same mistakes everytime they get a chance to take a cheap shot at the Russians or whomever else that may be. One more thing, stop talking to me if you want this discussion to end, otherwise I'll always be back to say it as I see it. Gummo August 10th, 2007, 05:38 AM Lodz http://www.jastrzab.lhs.pl/galerie/inne/!!!7_rudzka/panorama_12.jpg 3tmk August 10th, 2007, 05:40 AM if you need to continue your discussions, please contact each other by PM I'll let the posts stay for the night if you want to remember what exactly you were mad about, they'll be gone later. It's good to debate about skylines and all, but this thread is rather for pictures for people to marvel at, the more you write, the less pictures for people to look at. It wouldn't be a bad idea to open a separate thread for discussions only, where those who aren't interested in bickering can simply not visit Gummo August 10th, 2007, 05:50 AM katowice http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/K-ce_%28noc_1%29.jpg/793px-K-ce_%28noc_1%29.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Ulica_Chorzowska_widoczna_z_Silesia_City_Center.JPG Petr August 10th, 2007, 11:24 AM ^^ Oh, so what you are saying is that nationalistic and extreme views should not be challenged! Wonderful view there Petr! Except with this last statement you simply prove yourself to be in the very same category of hypocrites, because the last time that people were afraid to challenge these kinds of views, Europe and indeed the world became embroiled in a war. If you are confused think Germany and their pre-WWII views on Jews, Slavs (particularly Poles), etc... So you just keep digging and digging, whilst not willing to see that many of your countrymen are no different today than those that did you so much harm in the past. And of course I'm not just talking about hot wars, the cold one fits my post just as well. The only problem is that the past is no excuse for your present behaviour, rather a valuable lesson that should force your buddies to not repeat the same mistakes everytime they get a chance to take a cheap shot at the Russians or whomever else that may be. One more thing, stop talking to me if you want this discussion to end, otherwise I'll always be back to say it as I see it. You misunderstood me completely. You are thinking the same way as "many of my countrymen". You can't accept their critic towards Moscow skyscrapers/skyline because You are convinced that Poles are anti-russian, especially because of history. You generalizing this way all the time about all nations and their faults, and when it comes to Your country You're not as half as objective. You have Your myths about Thracian ancestry and You are ready to defense them no matter how ridiculous it sounds for non-Bulgarians. And of course You know better. I'm done with this discussion. I'm leaving for the weekend. :wave: Gatis August 10th, 2007, 12:13 PM I hope that forumer @Vecais Sakaarnis will not be unhappy if I post some his Riga pictures here: In general - Riga is very slow with developing its modern skyline. There are business proposals for more than 250 highrise buildings but only 29 of them are built now. And only three highrises are built in our "show-off" highrise district in Kipsala, 11 are built in Skanstes Street highrise area. So: pictures by @Vecais Sakaarnis: this is how Centre looks like - height limits (24 meters) of late 19th century has been used to full extent. Thousands upon thousands of such buildings with beautiful facades and simple inner yards: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9859/dscf4659jt2.jpg As a result we have very strict regulations regarding new buildings, it is said that bureaucracy here is terrible. - - - Skanste Street area - brand new development, first construction started few years ago, now 11 highrise buildings and lots of smaller buildings under construction. But the highest will be just 24 floors: http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9208/dscf4634bb9.jpg Kipsala - now only one new and one old brutalist highrises. Three more under construction, more than 20 high quality highrises up to 50 floors planned: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1386/dscf2821ci4.jpg Future of Kipsala with most of the development projects shown - but street network and other communications should be built first... http://www.koncertzale.lv/images/gallery/2170.png http://www.koncertzale.lv/images/gallery/4497.png Southern Bridge has approved highrise groups at each end. But developers are waiting for bridge to be completed: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2879/dscf4657mf7.jpg jarekles August 10th, 2007, 12:21 PM interesting project :) nice renderings :cheers: tomi1975 August 10th, 2007, 02:59 PM I hope that forumer @Vecais Sakaarnis will not be unhappy if I post some his Riga pictures here: In general - Riga is very slow with developing its modern skyline. There are business proposals for more than 250 highrise buildings but only 29 of them are built now. And only three highrises are built in our "show-off" highrise district in Kipsala, 11 are built in Skanstes Street highrise area. So: pictures by @Vecais Sakaarnis: A lot of potential there. I like good, human scale of Riga. This is very good mixture, water, public spaces, good design and mid -rises. How serious are those plans? When is it going to be UC? Dulgeroff August 10th, 2007, 08:21 PM You misunderstood me completely. You are thinking the same way as "many of my countrymen". You can't accept their critic towards Moscow skyscrapers/skyline because You are convinced that Poles are anti-russian, especially because of history. You generalizing this way all the time about all nations and their faults, and when it comes to Your country You're not as half as objective. You have Your myths about Thracian ancestry and You are ready to defense them no matter how ridiculous it sounds for non-Bulgarians. And of course You know better. I'm done with this discussion. I'm leaving for the weekend. :wave: My Thracian ancestry is none of your business. For your information I tested myself using the National Geogrpahic genetic kit and thus participated in their genome mapping project. The results showed that I have a majority of genes associated with the Balkan populations that migrated here between 6,000 and 12,000 years ago. Others were more recent! For your information, their tests have shown that more than 60% of Bulgarian's genes are similarly associated with these phenotypes. At the same time my results also showed phenotypes associated with Northern Europeans, particularly those from the region of what is today Southern Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Next time you open your mouth about someone's ancestry you should realize that you don't know anything about that person except his nickname on an internet forumn. One more thing, if you think my ancestry is ridiculous tell it to the scientists at National Geographic and maybe consider getting yourself tested as well. It's an experiment that is positive for our global society because it shows how we are all connected with each other through the various human migrations and it also gives each of us a clear understanding of our mixed backgrounds. That Petr actually takes away nationalism, racism and all kinds of other propaganda crap that you seem to defend. Indeed, the results of this international project have shown that no one is pure and that all of us are products of a myriad of genes that paint the biological mozaic that is shared by all people of the world. Anyhow, your last email shows me even more that your are showing a tint of narrow-mindedness and for some reason you seem opposed to my personal heritage, even though in the past I already told you about the said test results. It's called science, while what you are talking about is known as jealousy and wishful thinking. Still, my feeling is you are not a bad person, but rather someone that simply doesn't like me for all of the character faults that you see in me... That said, and unlike you, I will never tell you who your ancestors are, because that's neither my business nor something that I claim to know! If you take the test and tell me the results I'm certain I won't tell you they are false. Have a good weekend and best of luck with everything. :) VelesHomais August 10th, 2007, 08:47 PM Not much difference since last picture, but a new picture nonetheless Dnipropetrovsk! http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/foto_day/07/08/09.jpg Donetsk http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/junemayka/105582_2.jpg Kyiv. There's no unified skyline but if you take separate parts it resembles something in a skyline family http://farm1.static.flickr.com/117/279408105_28e6843d27_o.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/323769909_1908ec920f_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/59/169036134_deb45f659f_o.jpg Lviv http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/472910559_0e7d703455_b.jpg Minsk http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/488337078_54d83e26af_b.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/488346796_004a8a5f96_b.jpg lindenthaler August 10th, 2007, 09:06 PM Chisinau: http://i9.tinypic.com/66djkuq.jpg http://i18.tinypic.com/6hgj8g4.jpg http://i13.tinypic.com/4ya070w.jpg VelesHomais August 10th, 2007, 09:14 PM Very impressive indeed Gummo August 10th, 2007, 09:37 PM Chisinau: http://i9.tinypic.com/66djkuq.jpg http://i18.tinypic.com/6hgj8g4.jpg http://i13.tinypic.com/4ya070w.jpg :hahano: Gatis August 11th, 2007, 12:07 AM Too few people have been in Chisinau lately. They really have built a lot over the last year. They have reconstructed also the old Phoenician and Ancient Egyptian quartals. @tomi1975 - regarding Riga projects: There are lots more of Riga projects, I just showed the central ones. Yes, these plans seem to be very real with certain companies, architects, financing behind. But their development is very slow. To large extent the development has been stopped by administrative hassle - now city for more than a year is having enormous planning exercise and public discussion about the development of those highrise districts. But eralier development was stopped by the planning of whole city and it's UNESCO World Heritage Centre. Hope I will find a time to compile thread of Riga projects - there are many. nebunul August 11th, 2007, 12:17 AM Warsaw outskirts (I suppose very expensive area) http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8606/1021198ez0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3298/1021199yv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) mic of Orion August 11th, 2007, 02:38 AM I really don't like commies, am I only person here, I never consider residential towers and commies as part of true city skyline. I'd like to see something like Tallinn and Warsaw got, Vilnius and so on. Zagreb is getting good skyline, 4-5 major towers have been proposed and they got a green light, now it is only issue of finances. A hotel of 45 floors is to be built in Savska Aavenue, near Zagrebcanka and Euro Tower, another 42 Floor tower will also raise in same area, if all goes according to plans, and then there are plans for new district along the river, with 140m+ Office tower. http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8971/353fc1.jpg http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4654/121yf2.jpg mic of Orion August 11th, 2007, 02:42 AM If all goes according to plans Zagreb might end up with about 4-5 over 140m towers with in next 4-5 years. Tallest proposal thus far is for 45 floor hotel, about 160m tall. but few more projects are in pipeline in Eastern CBD - 106m tower is planed there, and 134m tower was also proposed. Dux Uxorum August 11th, 2007, 07:40 PM I kind of agree with you, that the most commie buildings do not truly deserve the "skyline" monicker. However, if those are the tallest/easily noticeable buildings in one's city, I guess that's the definition of that city's skyline, right? Zagreb did get some nice buildings recently and looks rather different (for better, of course) than 2004 when I visited it the last time. As for Dnipro's two towers, I still don't know if I like them or not, but they are definitely unique and sort of a symbol, what do you think? tomi1975 August 11th, 2007, 09:47 PM Too few people have been in Chisinau lately. They really have built a lot over the last year. They have reconstructed also the old Phoenician and Ancient Egyptian quartals. @tomi1975 - regarding Riga projects: There are lots more of Riga projects, I just showed the central ones. Yes, these plans seem to be very real with certain companies, architects, financing behind. But their development is very slow. To large extent the development has been stopped by administrative hassle - now city for more than a year is having enormous planning exercise and public discussion about the development of those highrise districts. But eralier development was stopped by the planning of whole city and it's UNESCO World Heritage Centre. Hope I will find a time to compile thread of Riga projects - there are many. These plans remind me of Rotterdam, the same kind of atmosphere. I wish Warsaw had the same planners discussion about City development...:bash: It will take time for Riga to built all those buildings but it looks like it is worth waiting. Goodluck anyway. mirza-sm August 12th, 2007, 04:25 PM Sarajevo skyline by Arwen (taken with a mobile phone :D) http://pics.foruni.de/save/p_1186926449.JPG http://pics.foruni.de/save/p_1186926459.JPG http://pics.foruni.de/save/p_1186926527.JPG Twist Tower (u/c) http://pics.foruni.de/save/p_1186926535.JPG : ) DeNi$ August 13th, 2007, 10:04 PM Moscow 05.2007 by soul_viscid http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x193/Soul_Viscid/1515.jpg http://soul-viscid.livejournal.com/ Petr August 13th, 2007, 10:09 PM ^^ Almost unreal. :) Делян August 14th, 2007, 12:43 AM Yeah! Beautiful..... soloveich August 14th, 2007, 01:10 AM Moscow 05.2007 by soul_viscid http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x193/Soul_Viscid/1515.jpg http://soul-viscid.livejournal.com/ damn... BaalNamib August 15th, 2007, 06:50 PM Storm over the Warsaw. http://images6.fotosik.pl/41/face6ccc3b094def.jpg http://images6.fotosik.pl/41/fb77a928670f354b.jpg Sponsor August 16th, 2007, 12:38 AM ^^Awesome!^^ When those pics were taken? SkaNdErBeG August 16th, 2007, 01:14 AM Some pics I have taken this summer, during my visit to Tirana during my vacation: http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0787.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0779.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0727.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0760.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0763.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0648.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0175.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/tirana/DSC_0755.jpg 7t August 16th, 2007, 02:22 AM This sky shot of Tirana covers most of the central parts of the city http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z318/alboboy11/Shqiperi020.jpg mic of Orion August 16th, 2007, 02:57 AM Tirana' is getting some nice skyline :) keep the good work guys, Albania is doing quite well from what I see here :) :okay: 7t August 16th, 2007, 03:04 AM From that picture you dont see some parts of the city looking North and South. That complex in the bottom left was recently constructed. Here are two sky shots from early 2006 showing some of the areas you dont see in that picture: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/122238406_ae06dca658_b.jpg Here you have a full view of the lake area http://farm1.static.flickr.com/34/122240695_9a73ffb9af_b.jpg Dardani6 August 16th, 2007, 03:07 AM that area will turn out great. it's a whole new block of modern residentials http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1839/shqiperi020uf2.jpg 7t August 16th, 2007, 03:11 AM I cant believe how fast they built it, you cant see it in the previous 2006 shots. mic of Orion August 16th, 2007, 03:31 AM actually m8 of mine liburni (lib) sent me loads of new developments I saw loads more than you showed here :) Ahmadinejad_POL August 16th, 2007, 11:25 PM Warsaw outskirts (I suppose very expensive area) http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3298/1021199yv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I know this place. it is no expensive but rather poor/normal areas located between warsaw and a suburb city Nowy dwor mazowiecki. These small buildings are polish version of russian datcha (??) when during communism as an entertainment people were granted small wooden houses and a few square metres around them where they could plamnt their own vegetables. curiosity :lol: Quicksilver August 17th, 2007, 03:09 PM Few more new pictures of Kyiv's skyline found on www.yandex.ru Kyiv. Obolon district by mmarkechko: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2/mmarkechko.0/0_1c26_6fa5eaa4_orig picture by gala-lev http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2/gala-lev.0/0_1548_11e42207_XL picture by vitleo-kor 2 33-storey buildings are on background, 3rd is under construction: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2/vitleo-kor.3/0_12a0_f32bd474_XL Same building from different angle by tatser: http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2/tatser.0/0_1501_d24d03b1_XL polskadan August 17th, 2007, 04:38 PM Wow, those pictures of Kyiv are awesome, especially the first one! How much would it cost to live in something like the smaller brown houses in that 1st picture? nebunul August 17th, 2007, 04:43 PM I hope in Bucharest will never be allowed such "chinese" monsters ... skyscrapers should only have decent caladding. I would not allow residentials higher than 5-6 floors :bash: Cosmin August 17th, 2007, 04:52 PM I like that see of little castle-like towers on the roofs... :lol: NOT!:ohno: That looks like some stupid gipsy villages in Romania, where they build huge houses with tens or hundreds of tiny towers... they look like shit. And then there's the Singapore type of socialist highrise... which I don't care for... |