http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=41&photo=MainPhoto&table=tblProject
Exploring urban issues facing 21st century, The Mile High Tower offers a fresh perspective on an idea that has been debated by architects for a century"1 mile =1600 M:banana: . Exploding land values, growing populations and expanding economies are placing extraordinary burdens on many culturally rich, but land deprived Asian regions. In response to these pressures we have proposed a vertical city. In conceiving the tower as a vertical city, the design team has integrated technological, architectural and urban planning strategies into a single structure that breathes with urban complexity. The scale of the building and the scope of the program force the reevaluation of current skyscraper precedents for form, purpose, infrastructure, transportation, structure, and sustainability.

Architecture and engineering have traditionally treated structure as static—the building frame was constructed to be strong and heavy enough to resist all anticipated loads. The Mile High Tower proposes a lighter, dynamic structural system that actively responds to forces placed upon it. Controlled by wind detecting sensors, stabilizing aileron-like fins run the length of the tower frame and modulate their position to control resonant motion and building drift.

The separation of the structural frame and the building envelope enhances the quality of the interior space by providing an abundance of natural light and ventilation. Equipped with wind generators, photovoltaic panels, a heliostat, and sewage treatment facilities, the tower attains a high degree of sustainability with minimal environmental impact.

Approaching the tower as a theoretical project has proven liberating, freeing the design team to seek new solutions to technical problems, to find creative approaches outside the present financial climate, and to implement environmentally sustainable strategies that will enhance the next generation of ultra-high rise buildings. Our paradigm is the human body. This near-future tower incorporates structural and climatic systems that, like the human body, respond dynamically and efficiently to forces placed upon them.

Pickard Chilton company have done the skyscraper design, plus other specialized engineering firms for structural, infrastructure and traffic design, cost and time planning!!
http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=41&photo=SideLeftPhoto&table=tblProject


http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=122&photo=Image&table=tblProjectDetail


http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=123&photo=Image&table=tblProjectDetail


http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=124&photo=Image&table=tblProjectDetail

I think my first thread is the best one for this month:lol:
just joking....:)

sorry guys that what I got tell now,but hopefully I'm gonna got more images soon from inside the "company" and I'll post it straight away>>
BTW the 3rd image it's comparing between the mile tower and the twin tower in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia ,because the design has done by the same company "Pickard Chilton"

:eek: :eek: :eek:

1600 m!!

Are you sure this is the skyscraper proposed by Kingdom Holding? Isn't 1600m just waaaay to high? Is it even possible!!!!



btw, you might want to post this at the supertalls forum,
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=902
I'm sure many people will be intersted in this monster.

^^ I'm sure it's possible but i wonder if its feasible. With the current available building materials....something that tall would require very thick support structures that would take up a lot of the actual space...

but..obviously there are strong materials available for more money...so i guess that's a way to go....

in any case...this would be a miracle if it went through...very very interesting stuff :D

NO WAY

Thread posted in Supertalls. Continue your discussion there.

Cheers

If you look at Kingdom Holdings website, they do mention that Pickard Chilton has been contracted to design the tower. We've also been hearing a lot of chatter about a possible "world's tallest building" comming up in Jeddah, and we know that Al-Waleed is planning on investing close to $13.3 billion in a Jeddah development. In addition, the project client is "secret", classical Saudi style!

I personnaly am rooting for this one! I really hope this goes through. Plus, we all know that Prince Al-Waleed is not going to settle for anything less than Kingdom Centre, and this one will sure out do Mamlaka

just wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow,BTW other thread in ''world Development News Forums'' was closed!!!

^^ i'm not surprised. a lot of people wouldn't want this project to become reality....they don't want saudi arabia to get so much attention, interest, and praise..

even more reason to push this project through..

I have some points to clear out:
*)this "monster" is not standing alone, there is two other towers connected to it at the hight of 170 M by two bridges. ( these two towers will give this huge tower some kind of stability. "you can check that in the 3rd image"
*)Kingdom holding group retained HOK to do the master plan for the project and the soil test in the location,and they approved a super tall in the project.
*)estimates that the total investment potential that will be generated by this project will be in excess of SR 55 billion:
-around 15 % from that number for the super tall land mark ,around SR 8 billion= $ 2 billion.
-SR 400 million for the water canal(5 Km) around the project land "from the red sea on the west to the Abhur creek on the south of the project location"and the result for that is a new island on the north of abhur creek well change the map of Jeddah,and it will help the natural life in abhur creek.
*)SR 42 billion "$ 11 billion" several commercial towers, residential units, retail space, office space, a beach resort, hotels and an education campus.
I hope this informations well clear some of your inquiries :)

^^ how did you get all this information? -if you dont mind me asking-

^^ i'm not surprised. a lot of people wouldn't want this project to become reality....they don't want saudi arabia to get so much attention, interest, and praise..

even more reason to push this project through..

Yup. I was also also shocked to see that the thread was locked.

The thread was locked because at the moment a mile high tower seems a lot like a vision and for a thread to exist there it must be a serious proposal with substantial evidence showing it is. The fact that it's in Saudi Arabia has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Send wjfox a PM showing it's a real project and not just some vision and he'll accept.

I myself would not be in favour with such a project. The reason is a mile high tower would cost several billion to build and that money could be much better used elsewhere.

guys......leave them talk.....just wait tell 15/9/2007 and everyone gonna see the full master plan plus the monster "I like this word",basically the full render ;)
BTW, the work gonna start at first days of 2008.and they allready bought peace of land oh the red sea (on the west of the project location) and another one on Abhur creek (the south of the project location) and they gonna connect them throw the project site (the canal) in addition to the project site (the 5,5 m2) which is the land on the south western corner of north Abhur.
just wait guys...and like what they says "alsabor moftah alfaraj" LooooooooL

Additional Information concerning some of the companies that may be involved with this.

Thornton Tomasetti, which is claimed to be the "Structural Design Firm", is behind such other prestigious projects such as:

The Bloomberg Tower, New York
Federation Tower, Moscow
The New York Time Building, New York
Soldier Field, Chicago
Taipei 101, Taipai

The MEP (Mechanical, Electrical, and Plumbing) Engineering Firm, Flack & Kurtz has been involved in other projects such as:

The World Financial Center, New York
Canary Warf, London
The Hearst Tower, New York

wow this sounds to be serious.... I still cant belive that!!

iam sure it's somewhere here
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4411/snapshot20070719204542ai5.jpg

sorry Saudi guy but the (KHC) gonna be here:

http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

and the canal will start from the top right with a pretty shape ,into the Abhur ceek (the middle part of the creek in this photo)
the project location is the unplanned area in this photo :)
I'll put the full render as soon i got it from my resource ;)
btw, there is a huge project in that area "in saudi guy photo" between durrat al aruss and Salman bay and they gonna announce it in winter 2007.

wow, im asking what is going to be next dubai 800m kuwait 1000m and sudia1600m, mmmm the next 5 years will be crazy:).

in that case it will be in deep the land (far from beach ~1km) anyway i will upload another map,and yah i forgot it your link dosnt work.

you said there project between durrat al aruss and Salman bay,in fact many resort will be under constriction not just one.

like these?
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5137/snapshot20070720143912sd6.jpg

:cheers: :uh: wow man this community rocks really i would like to see thse towers :) hii & Salam everybody i am new to this community i am from India .

welcome to the forum Danish.m

wow, im asking what is going to be next dubai 800m kuwait 1000m and sudia1600m, mmmm the next 5 years will be crazy:).

sorry but you missed one

Bahrain 1200m !!!!!!!!!!

and kuwait is not 1000m its 1001m

and its saudi not sudia btw isnt sudia a chicken product ???

^^ LOL...man the job of correcting people's spelling mistakes on this site is a HUGE challenge...save yourself the trouble.. :)

By the way...where is Qatar's imaginary 1000m+ tower on that list? come on...make up something..everyone else is.. :-D

like these?
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5137/snapshot20070720143912sd6.jpg

ok now everyone going to madina will be drowned ..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Recently I heard that some one speaking from Nakheel that they don,t rule out a 1mile tower in Dubai to restore the glory if some city build a more tall building than Burj.
Any body from UAE has got any idea.
I saw that in Middle East Business Report (BBC)

sorry guys for the late,but I was a bit busy..
I made something from what I saw ;)

-This is the project location on Jeddah map: (you can see King Abdullah Economic City location on the top left corner between the white line and the coast line,And Durrat Alarus on the meddle left )

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/8877/jed1yx5.png (http://imageshack.us)
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-This is the project location on north jeddah map:

http://www.m5zn.com/uploads/382965bb01.bmp
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-this is project location "on north Abhur area" with the artificial creek: (it's not that good,but it's almost the same):

http://www.sudanup.com/uploads/87a3a93a6b.bmp (http://www.sudanup.com)
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btw,my source is a GM in KHC group and he's now in Jeddah to but the final touch on the official papers with Jeddah mayoralty and they'll announce the project in the first days of September :banana:
((The project will announce in September because they're waiting to finish the "KHC IPO" completely:bash: ))
*)the white line is what they call "great Jeddah" so every thing inside the white boarder is under the responsibility of Jeddah mayoralty.

next time use www.imageshack.us or www.pictiger.com to upload your pictures.
BTW why don't they announcing now!!?tel them i can't breath until September:rant:.....:tongue2:

thnx maaan for the advice :)
about the announcement now, I don't know why!!!
they drove me crazy..but as he said "they wanna do it after the IPO thing:bash:
and it's gonna be a full city with many scrapers,offices,luxury houses on high wealth western style (he said like the houses style in Beverly hills :nuts: ) even schools.
Basically it's a whole new city, or let's say (new six stars community)

oh second advice for you DONT USE PICTURES WITH (BMP) EXTENSION save it as JPG or JPEG,that bmp size ~1.4mb that too large for 800 x 600 pixels!!!

i wonder what will happen with all that resort front beach with these monster 1600m:P
anyway thanks for all that great info ,i fell sad that i should wait 2 moth:(

thinx ma~~~~n for the 2nd time!!
loooooooool
btw I'm not used to write in forums,but I started to write here after an advice from another friend (loooooooooooooooool)
anyway,it's less than six weeks.
now...it's my turn to give you an advice :gossip: , ((al9abor 7eloo)) :baeh3:

send my big thinks for your friend and ok i will be sabor:D

WOW!!! If it is really becoming realtity, I know where I spend my vacation :-)
Now gotta wait till september!

Why's Salman Bay so green?

^^it's only 1m deep!
what do you think guys:Di know i am so crazy recently with mile kkkk picture from king road.
http://i15.tinypic.com/54mdj61.jpg

shouldent it look alittel bit taller

haha it looks kinda scary!

^^looks like a sword

wow! crazy.

But you forgot the two towers holding it.

But you forgot the two towers holding it.

Or you can look at it from the perspective of, those two being part of the Tower itself.

yep two small towers connected below,i am now try to design it in 3d graphics but it's not clear i cant see the details!!

WOW! NICE OF IT! :okay:

sorry but you missed one

Bahrain 1200m !!!!!!!!!!

and kuwait is not 1000m its 1001m

and its saudi not sudia btw isnt sudia a chicken product ???

looooooool thanx:P and sorry i don't know about the one in Bahrain im going to find about it by the way my english is bad but im just trying :)) you will find alot like sudia and other hehe:lol:

This project looks amazing “mile tower” the name it self make you wonder one mile long……interesting

Rody, any news on this project?

we need some pictures to show us how long a mile really is.

nothing tell now,but I think within a coble of weeks we'll got the full and the true information..

like what they said from the beginning,the second half of septemper...
so, I think we have to wait till then :(

No way this tower will ever be built. 1600 metres is too tall by my standards.

We'll find out in a month!

We'll find out in a month!

Good, I hope this suck-@$$ concept ends up cancelled by then.:bash:

Do the Saudis build towers for fun or do they actually use them?

Ive heard the Kingdom Holdings Tower in Riyadh is 70% to 60% empty.

Are you kidding me, who said that???

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Do the Saudis build towers for fun or do they actually use them?

Ive heard the Kingdom Holdings Tower in Riyadh is 70% to 60% empty.

Hardly surprising...

Ritz:
the Kingdome Holding in Riyadh 60% empty?!!!!!!!!!!!
are you kidding me maaaaaaan??
btw..
you can go there and ask...
and about the needs
if we are talking about Jeddah there is arround 5'9 m in Jeddah "the metropolitan area" and around 30% of this number are under 25 years old...
so basically they need more than a 2 million units in the next 15 years..
this is from the citizens side...
from the visitors and the tourist flow in Jeddah:
1- 4.5 millions visitors,have been in jeddah between August 2006- July 2007. "just from inside the kingdom"the number has increased 30% than 2005-2006
and 54%than 2004-2005.
2- 6.8 millions visitors,have been in jeddah between Aug 2006-Jul 2007.
"from outside the Kingdom"the number have increased 100% than 2004-2005.
so I think
*) A city with 5.9 million citizen and around 11 million visitor per year (there is some famous cities still aiming to have 3 or 4 million visitors by the year 2015,and they're having less than 2.5 million in their city but you'll not say a thing about any "needs" problems for them.so I think it's not the "needs" problem for you;) it's somthing else ...
*)As we all know,the Saudi Economy is the largest in the meddle east and western asia,the 5th on Asia..and the third ( 1/3) of this Economy is in Jeddah!!

good post Rody:D

Do the Saudis build towers for fun or do they actually use them?

Ive heard the Kingdom Holdings Tower in Riyadh is 70% to 60% empty.

Actually it's 100% full long time ago.
A smaller tower, Al Anoud, now underconstruction and it's fully rented already!

i wonder why Ritz say such thing about Saudi and forgot UAE!!? at last how many towers +200m we have now? 10!!!

Ritz get your facts right before you post , remember that ……

i was there 21 aug still nothing yet i seen these plot owned by AQARAT real estate, BTW these palace will demolish as Rody shown us in first page
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8290/snapshot20070823000431xx8.jpg

Full Size (http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8951/dsc00203es3.jpg)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6804/dsc00203yx9.jpg

in these pic i was in north abhur exactly in kingdom plot
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7868/dsc00191xv5.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00191xv5.jpg)

Rody69 hit the target with the statistics - - between the number of predicted new families in Jeddah, and the increasing number of visitors - And, the Jeddah Municipality has there space syntax land use and circulation plan in place - I can't speak to how good this plan actually is, but they are aware of the need to meet a high demand for development in the next several years and are planning for it - new projects are emerging every day - -

next big question will be about infrastructure - - water, sewer, power - big challenges remain - - saw on another thread, that new desal plant is underway for south Jeddah -

It looks very nice the tower and tall. I'm impressive for the thousand's of projects that are being built in all the Middle East. Amazing projects that are making your cities great.

Do the Saudis build towers for fun or do they actually use them?

Ive heard the Kingdom Holdings Tower in Riyadh is 70% to 60% empty.

not only that guys, but in the first 2-4weeks since the tower first opened it was already 100% full, and alot of companies and business men started saving spots 4 them in the tower, plus the guys named shekh waled bin talal, doesn't spend his money on anything stupid or something that doesn't gain profit 4 him, he's smarter than that, and ur talking about one of the top 10 richest ppl in the world (mashalla)

I hope to see the approval for this project but anyway I do not think it is real one.

أرض جدة
تقع أرض جده في الجزء الشمالي من المدينة على ساحل البحر الأحمر على الجانب الشمالي لشرم أبحر والبحر الأحمر، وهي منطقة معروفة بجمال طبيعيتها والمرافق الخاصة بالشواطئ. وتبلغ مساحة هذه الأرض أكثر من 2 مليون متر مربع وتبعد حوالي 20 دقيقة بالسيارة عن مركز مدينة جدة وخمس دقائق إلى الشمال الغربي من مطار الملك عبدالعزيز. ويتألف الموقع من أرض مفتوحة ومستوية نسبياً وغير مطورة في الوقت الحاضر. وقد تم البناء في المنطقة المحيطة بها مباشرة حيث توجد مساكن خاصة وناد على الواجهة المطلة على البحر والمحاذية للموقع من الناحيتين الغربية والجنوبية. وقد اشترت الشركة أراض مجاورة تصل الموقع بشرم أبحر والبحر الأحمر.

وتخطط المملكة القابضة لاستخدام أرض جده لأغراض متنوعة منها التجاري والسكني وبناء منتجع سياحي تتوسطه ناطحة سحاب تحيط بها مرافق مختلفة منها مساحات خاصة بالمكاتب ووحدات سكنية، ومدرسة وفنادق وسوق تجاري. وسيتضمن المشروع تنفيذ بنية تحتية كبيرة بما في ذلك جسر علوي عبر خليج أبحر يصل بين الموقع ومركز المدينة والمطار في الجنوب لتقليل المسافات التي تقطعها السيارات.

وتقدر الشركة القيمة الإجمالية المحتملة لهذا المشروع الاستثماري بأكثر من 55 مليار ريال، وقد تم تكليف بوز آلن هاميلتون ("بوز آلن")، وهي شركة عالمية رائدة في مجال التخطيط الاستراتيجي والاستشارات الإدارية، بإجراء تحليل للسوق بالنسبة لمختلف مكونات المشروع ودراسة التصميم العام للمشروع في ضوء هذا التحليل، وتقييم الأداء المالي المتوقع له مستقبلاً. كما كلفت الشركة كلاً من شركة العمرانية وشركة HOK بإعداد خطة أساسية للمشروع، وشركة بيكارد تشيلتون بتصميم ناطحة السحاب، إضافة إلى شركات هندسية متخصصة أخرى بالنسبة للتصميم المعماري والبنية الأساسية وتخطيط الشوارع وحركة السيارات والتكاليف والجدول الزمني للتنفيذ وغير ذلك.

سيضم المشروع برجاً شاهقاً، ووحدات سكنية ومحلات تجارية ومساحات مكتبية ومنتجعاً على الشاطئ وفندقين من فئة أربع نجوم ومدرسة.

Jeddah & Riyadh Land
KHC will seek to repeat the success of its Kingdom Center through new landmark development projects in Riyadh and Jeddah. As with the Kingdom Center, the KHC is planning to create important new residential and commercial districts within those cities.

Riyadh Land
The Riyadh land site is strategically located on the Riyadh-Dammam highway in the north eastern outskirts of the city, approximately 15 minutes driving distance from the city. It comprises approximately 16.8 million square metres of relatively flat land with an extensive frontage on the highway, and is currently undeveloped, with the exception of several petrol filling stations on the south side of the main highway and numerous small residential camps. Once developed, the Riyadh land will be a mixed use residential and commercial development, in addition to a private leisure and equestrian club, with serviced bungalows and sports and other leisure facilities which are expected to be managed by Fairmont Hotels and Resorts. Plans exist for the government to build a highway linking the south western end of this development to the nearby King Khalid International Airport.

KHC estimates that the total investment potential that will be generated by this project will be in excess of SR20 billion. KHC believes that this development could house up to 75,000 people. It has engaged Booz Allen Hamilton ("Booz Allen"), the global strategy and management consulting firm, to analyse the market for the various components of this project, review the project development concept in the light of this market analysis, and evaluate the project’s expected financial performance going forward. It has also retained Omrania & Associates (O&A) together with Barton Willmore to develop the final master plan for the project.

Jeddah Land
The Jeddah land site is located in the city's northern area, on northern side of the Obhur Creek and the Red Sea, an area known for its natural beauty and beach facilities. It comprises more than 2 million square metres. It is approximately 20 minutes driving distance from the city centre of Jeddah and 5 minutes north west of the King Abdul Aziz airport. The site consists of relatively level open land which is presently undeveloped. The immediately surrounding area is developed with private residences and club facilities on the waterfront which borders the site on the west and south. The project has acquired adjacent sites to provide access to Obhur creek and the Red Sea.

KHC plans to use the Jeddah land for a mixed-use commercial, residential and resort development, anchored by a large skyscraper surrounded by other facilities including office space, residential units, a school, hotels and retail facilities. Some infrastructure works will be constructed, including a bridge across Obhur Creek, linking the site to the city centre and airport to reduce driving distances.

KHC estimates that the total investment potential that will be generated by this project will be in excess of SR 55 billion. It has engaged Booz Allen Hamilton ("Booz Allen"), the global strategy and management consulting firm, to analyse the market for the various components of this project, review the project development concept in the light of this market analysis, and evaluate the project’s expected financial performance going forward. It has also retained Omrania & Associates (O&A) together with HOK to develop a master plan for the project, plus Pickard Chilton for the skyscraper design, plus other specialized engineering firms for structural, infrastructure and traffic design, cost and time planning, etc.

The proposed development consists of a landmark tower, residential units, retail space, office space, a beach resort, hotels and an education campus.


http://www.kingdom.com.sa/index.asp?id=63&invid=23&invtype=8

http://www.kingdom.com.sa

oh god i can't wait anymore!

What a fantastic tower... Anyone knows if this is the redesigned tower of Bin Talal, formally named Legacy Tower?

still no information about the height. no final design

Build it, that will be bloody mental.

i really hope they'll build it...together with Burj Dubai, Al Burj and the Mubarak Tower it will be the elite of towers on this world

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!
That's AMAZING

Hope this Tower 'can we even call it tower?' :D ,comes into reality soon

GOOD LUCK :)

WTF!!!

welcome hassoun in Saudi forum;)

we'r half way through September and didn't hear anything official about this project......!!

maybe canceled!!?

^^ maybe was not real at all :D

فضيحة
hmmm lets wait and see!

I was just browsing through Pickard Chilton website and found the renders and description of this project under "research". The cleint sponsor is said to be "confidential" !


Mile High Tower
Asia
12,000,000 gsf
Client Sponsor: Confidential
Structural Engineer: Thornton Tomasetti
MEP Engineer: Flack & Kurtz
Vertical Transportation: Otis Research Development
Landscape Architect: Towers / Golde
Status: Research Project

So I guess it is still possible the Kingdom Hodling is the one behind this project but it is also possible that it is just a vision that will not happen!

http://www.pickardchilton.com/pagProject.aspx?Group='RESEARCH'&ID=41&Photo=1

why they Wasted time for vision?hope y r wrong!!!

- Value Estimated at SR50 billion

- Project Master plan received by Pickard Chilton

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received the Jeddah Project Master plan from Pickard Chilton, reputable and renowned designers who have designed some of the world's significant and recognizable buildings, including Kingdom Center recognized by its iconic tower.


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, and other projects in Riyadh, has an area of 5.3 million square meters and is located in the city's northern area on the Red Sea coastline, which is a strategic area for the development of this project. The investment value of the project is estimated at SR50 billion upon completion, comprising of a colossal sky scraper with a surrounding area for other facilities (residential, commercial, construction of a five star hotel and offices). The residential area will be 1.5 million square meters, the size of the commercial area will be 470,000 square meters, education vicinity with an area of 150,000 square meters and the size of the offices area will be 800,000 square meters. The remaining lands will be utilized for leisure facilities, tourism and the construction of four star hotels.


Furthermore, there are plans for the development of a diplomatic quarter on the Jeddah land. The site plans for the land were developed by HOK, a Canadian company that has world wide recognition. The project will also connect the Red Sea coastline of the area to Sharm Obhur, an environment of natural beauty. KHC is also currently in cooperation with the Jeddah municipality and other administrations to ensure that all the appropriate requirements are met for the success of the project. KHC is known for the high quality of their real estate projects that have won international awards.

-Ends-

For more information contact:
Kingdom Holding Company
1111-211-1-966+
www.KINGDOM.com.sa
Media@kingdom.com.sa


© Press Release 2007

Article originally published by Press Release 17-Sep-07

http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20070917112120/SecIndustries/pagConstruction

I can't see tis building having a very efficient use of space. It will be all elevator shafts unless they are planning on everyone waiting an hour to catch a lift.

Bechtel......... I see, good choice really.

Bechtel is well known company and has very good reputation but I hope they bring their staff instead of depending on sub-contractors.

I hope bechtel to be responsible of construction as the main contractor not just management. what do you guys think?

what projects was done by Bechtel?

i found it see the list,not only in real estate!
http://www.bechtel.com/profiles.htm

Damn, I'm really impressed :)

Hope it will be build!

greetings from Europe :cheers:

Kingdom Company (KHC) Announced Bechtel as the Chosen Company to Supervise the Construction of the Massive Jeddah Project, Investment Value Estimated at SR50 billion
(17/09/2007)


Project Master plan received by Pickard Chilton

Kingdom Holding Company, Chaired by HRH Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, announced today Monday 17th September 2007, that Bechtel (BEKtl) company was chosen to supervise and develop the real estate project in Jeddah. Bechtel company was chosen out of seven other companies that were in a competitive bid to supervise and develop the Jeddah project.

Bechtel is a global engineering, construction and project management company with more than a century of experience on complex projects in challenging locations especially in Saudi. Privately owned with headquarters in San Francisco, they have 40 offices around the world and nearly 40,000 employees.

Kingdom Holding Company received the Jeddah Project Master plan from Pickard Chilton, reputable and renowned designers who have designed some of the world’s significant and recognizable buildings, including Kingdom Center recognized by its iconic tower.

The Jeddah project, one of the major real estate projects planned by Kingdom Holding Company, and other projects in Riyadh, has an area of 5.3 million square meters and is located in the city's northern area on the Red Sea coastline, which is a strategic area for the development of this project. The investment value of the project is estimated at SR50 billion upon completion, comprising of a colossal skyscraper with a surrounding area for other facilities (residential, commercial, construction of a five star hotel and offices). The residential area will be 1.5 million square meters, the size of the commercial area will be 470,000 square meters, education vicinity with an area of 150,000 square meters and the size of the offices area will be 800,000 square meters. The remaining lands will be utilized for leisure facilities, tourism and the construction of four star hotels.

Furthermore, there are plans for the development of a diplomatic quarter on the Jeddah land. The site plans for the land were developed by HOK, a Canadian company that has world wide recognition. The project will also connect the Red Sea coastline of the area to Sharm Obhur, an environment of natural beauty. KHC is also currently in cooperation with the Jeddah municipality and other administrations to ensure that all the appropriate requirements are met for the success of the project. KHC is known for the high quality of their real estate projects that have won international awards.

http://kingdom.com.sa/index.asp?id=73&prlsid=33

wow see the master plan in background
http://kingdom.com.sa/upload/images/press/HRH_170907_Full.jpg

You can actually see a small white scale of the tower on the table. if thats the true scale then one mile seems about right.

scary,looks like huge Needle
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1987070/2/istockphoto_1987070_scary_needle.jpg

I told you guys...just wait to med September.
btw, just look to the Tower in the master plan "on the table" and tell me what do you think.
((download the image and increase the size over the table))
doe's it look like this???

http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=41&photo=MainPhoto&table=tblProject

in that case we need tell the mods in ''Supertalls'' forum to unlock mile thread or it's stile early?

I think it's still early...or what do you think guys?

still too early...lets keep our fingers crossed :)

ya let's wait untill we read officially the height of the tower and to be Approved. Still it is under proposed category.

Yup still too early......!!! I m so thrilled that Jeddah is finally getting the goodies

This is news so I think I'll reopen the thread, I just have to find it first

i remember article for burj dubai facts it says we can see burj dubai spire at maximum 90km i am not sure if it's wrong just wondering with 1600m,i use calculator in Google Earth if burj dubai was in makkah then we can see it from durrat al arous!!!

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9283/diagramfa3.jpg

I think they gonna call it "Al-Mamlakah-2" or "kingdom-2"

no man:(i don't like new one,otherwise it's not good to named towers as numbers!

they can call it "kingdom mile tower" or just "kingdom mile" :)

^^It seems mysterious!!!

I wonder if the upper floors of this unbelievably tall scraper would be pressurized with oxygen like in aircraft ?

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7648/thetoweraftereditedcu1.jpg

I'm starting to question the technical possiblity of building it...

^^ don't blame you. a building of this size is not the most feasible. the elevator shafts and other things that'll be required to keep the building up and running will take up so much space that there will be little area left for anything else. plus...with this area not being that densely populated...why would u want such a tall tower there? maybe after kaec develops it'll make more sense?

It is new vision for Jeddah. do not look at jeddah now!! I believe it will be changed soon within few years or let's say 10-15 years inshallah (god willing).

well, maybe the project is economically feasible knowing that there are many Saudis who are welling to spend millions and millions just to be distinguished. What I'm questioning is the 5 times engineering feasiblity of buidling a 1600 m high thower. A building 5 times higher than Kingdom Center and twice as high as Burj Dubai!

I'm quite sure a super tall tower will be built there but a mile high tower sounds too far fetched me me. Wouldn't a kilometer high tower be enough??

I think 1200-1300 m is more than enough

i am not sure but those small towers looks like kingdom tower!!!

Kuwait is building a supertall 1050 M and sure they are going to increase the height 100 M or more while it is under construction to be almost 1200 M and Al Burj in dubai too will be at least 1000 - 1200 M so if al walid bin talal is going to build a supertall, he will try his best to build one higher than the previous both supertalls I just mentioned.

It is the competition as you all know specially the arabs from gulf area.

It is new vision for Jeddah. do not look at jeddah now!! I believe it will be changed soon within few years or let's say 10-15 years inshallah (god willing).

The image will change but no-where before 25 years. This tower is a nice idea, but chances of it being built anytime before 2025 is slim.

As for Kuwait's 1km tower... Lets see when the gov. approve it... They are still debating it.. 2 years of debate not enough, apparently! :nuts:

I think all the islamists in the Kuwaiti gov. must be using that Hadith "about end of times when Arabs start building super tall structures" to vote it out... :lol:

I think 1200-1300 m is more than enough

I wouldn't mind an extra 300m ..... :p

^^ me too lol

The tower doesnt seem asetically pleasing. It looks like a transformer monster or something--not very pleasing to see like BurjDubai or AlBurj....

^^Well no proper renders have come out....I think a good quality render would certainly have a different outlook....besides that waleed guy has a good choice...

^^ I agree...the kindom tower in riyadh is stunning..

i remember article for burj dubai facts it says we can see burj dubai spire at maximum 90km i am not sure if it's wrong just wondering with 1600m,i use calculator in Google Earth if burj dubai was in makkah then we can see it from durrat al arous!!!

have a look at http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/qq/database/QQ.09.02/shirley3.html

^^i hate math:nuts:

yay:baeh3:i worked to publish news of mile tower in the Arab community forums SSC now famous in Saudi forums,i Expecting more members soon:)

cool saudi guy

a dream came true this mile tower.

^^first one:colgate:hellllllo dear welcome to SSC:hi:

well ?????? any news ? updates ? come one this is a seriouse project !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hi again guys...
sorry for the late.but,due to it's my last semester in my degree,so I'm really busy.
anyway,the same guy who's working for the KHG sent me this images.and I don't have to say much,the photos are enough
-this is the master plan for the project:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3fb70dfaf3.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

-this is a view for the canal:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/54ca428f11.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)


_the tower's marina:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/9798e2228a.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

and as he told me the work is gonna starts as soon as "Bechtel" will finish their office in Jeddah witch is suppose to be on the first days of February
btw,this rendering is by HOK so it must be with a good dimensions ;)

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/38138/2000820259656418338_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000820259656418338)

OMG !!! it's happening...
Rody69, I had faith in you since the first time you posted about this project and here we go..Good Job buddy :applause:
I'll post this update in the Supertalls fourm..

^^and even if it does not happen....................ksa is a big place and doesnt realy need highrises............................actually i think in the future high rises will mean poor and low rises will mean rich...........:lol:

At last..!!!! IT IS GREAAAATTTT

great work thanks for the pic's rody69 i really appreciate them :D:D:D tis is a great project !

Amazinggggg
..Good Job Rody :applause:

slowly i've the feeling this tower will be build for sure :)

wow thanks Rody69... so now we have another date.. February 2008...

I don't know why
I feel that I'm not comfortable with this project !!!

you're welcome guys....

woooooow:eek::eek::eek: big CHEERS thanks rody69
i noticed that the tower will faced by gold glass and the lake is very wide!!!

Looks really good. Doesn't really look like a desert city.

I don't know why
I feel that I'm not comfortable with this project !!!

maybe because its a challenge between the GCC Mega Towers ? :banana:

^^
no, I actually don't give a **** for any challenge or competition

Guys... Still no approval yet or any final approved design or announcement. Please wait lol

Maybe we will be shocked soon if the tower could not be designed or if the government rejected the height.

Let's update the thread but no need to talk about heights right now:lol:

OMG:eek:my digram was appeared in Al Bina Magazine DAMN why didn't i sign SSC below:bash:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/503/dsc00395ub1.jpg

hahahahaha wow I saw that drawing in many forums but didn't expect to see it in a magazine!

^^in that case i sure al walid saw it :P loool maybe they think it's officially digram by HOK or something like that:lol:

i am 100% sure if this project id for real, the final design will be completely different.

Saudi guy, sue 'em! sue 'em for using your picture without your consent! :)

^^ yeah saudi guy you can phone them and shove them like H#ll ! (or ask for money)

could you sue them? :D

Now I know how this whole media thing works

should never ever trust (what is the name of that newspaper man???)
well, shouldn't trust newspaper period!

^^ it was Al Bina Magazine

This has happened to me before. You can't do anything if you don't watermark your pics

i don't care about my name,They must write the Source is SSC:no:

i don't care about my name,They must write the Source is SSC:no:

U should care!!. Sue them, i sayy....Ask them to pay u or threaten them with court!!! :-)

court ?

wooooooooooooooooooow:nuts:
incredibile

court ?

hmm...yeah probably, the argument would be that the photos were taken by me not meant for some magazine,,,I mean there must be some rule sayin u must mention the source of the photograph before publishing them~~:nuts:

Is there any text that clearly explains copy rights of the material here in SSC..?
If so, this should be clarified to all members and visitors. Anyway, I'm not encouraging suing them, but every one needs to know his rights.

I was actually joking about suing them.
Saudi_guy should probably be proud of himself that his (art)work was published in a magazine. :)

^^ Though, it was nice if they had sourced it. Saudy Guy should have wrote his name with that (C) on the picture, the way exactly IMRE writes it. Besides, we all proud of Saudi Guy.......aren't we?
:okay::applause:

^^ yes we are :nuts:

thanks dears:) btw inshallah tomorrow i will take photos for north beach constrictions and Friday for Al Madina central area.

CHEERS

^^ can't wait to see all the updates :)

thanks Saudi guy

^^sorry we phoned most hotels in central area No apartments available!!so we canceled it,about jeddah projects's pictures tomorrow inshallah.

^^ those are the ones i like the most anyway :)

In an nutshell; the master plan is a master plan, a nice rendering for a nice idea; nothing more.

HOK IS NOT working on the tower, they just provided conceptual master plan.

i was there nothing yet !

I read that the project will not be approved due to its close proximity to the airport!

^^ that's a bullshit excuse imo..

here's where i read it,
http://www.alriyadh.com/2007/12/30/article305035.html

^^^ It is only a point of view, one's personal opinion.

welll...i also thought abiut the same thing.....1 mile high tower so close to the airport doesn't seem an appealing idea!!!

impossible in that location !!

i was there these morning no boards or Temporary walls yet but i noticed there compound and villas Under demolition i don't know if that related to Jiddah Land project (AKA mile tower).

أمين جدة: لم نتسلم أي طلب لبناء ناطحة سحاب في أبحر الشمالية


محمد حضاض (جدة)
نفى أمين محافظة جدة المهندس عادل فقيه تسلم أي طلب من المستثمرين لانشاء ناطحة سحاب أو برج عملاق في أبحر الشمالية. وقال ردا على سؤال “عـكاظ” سمعنا فقط بالأمر عبر وسائل الاعلام. وكانت أراضي أحياء ابحر الشمالية شهدت ارتفاعات كبيرة خلال الأشهر الثلاثة الماضية وصلت لما يقارب 100% من أسعارها وذلك عقب أحاديث عن بناء برج عملاق في منطقة ابحر الشمالية لأحد المستثمرين.. وقد ترددت تلك الأحاديث في أوساط المكاتب العقارية والتي عملت كما يقول بعض خبراء العقار على التنافس بينها لاغراء أصحاب الأراضي ببيعها بأسعار عالية جداً لا تتناسب وموقع تلك الأراضي.

http://www.okaz.com.sa/okaz/osf/20080124/Con20080124168079.htm

oh come on ! what is wrong with these people !!!!

I hope they divide this tower by five, so we get five towers with 320m
that would be much nicer :)

Saudi bureaucracy is hard to explain!

WTF!!!!are they fooling us? or he lives in Mars.

I recently heard from a trustd source in Jeddah real estate that the whole thing is a lie and basically it's a game by Alwalid to raise the price of Abhor real estate and then sell all his properties (similar to what he did to the stock market)...You never know how these ppl think !!!??

WHAT?? no no it's impossible al waild do that,we should wait little more time!

ohhh... another conspiracy theory!!

أمين جدة: لم نتسلم أي طلب لبناء ناطحة سحاب في أبحر الشمالية


محمد حضاض (جدة)
نفى أمين محافظة جدة المهندس عادل فقيه تسلم أي طلب من المستثمرين لانشاء ناطحة سحاب أو برج عملاق في أبحر الشمالية. وقال ردا على سؤال “عـكاظ” سمعنا فقط بالأمر عبر وسائل الاعلام. وكانت أراضي أحياء ابحر الشمالية شهدت ارتفاعات كبيرة خلال الأشهر الثلاثة الماضية وصلت لما يقارب 100% من أسعارها وذلك عقب أحاديث عن بناء برج عملاق في منطقة ابحر الشمالية لأحد المستثمرين.. وقد ترددت تلك الأحاديث في أوساط المكاتب العقارية والتي عملت كما يقول بعض خبراء العقار على التنافس بينها لاغراء أصحاب الأراضي ببيعها بأسعار عالية جداً لا تتناسب وموقع تلك الأراضي.

http://www.okaz.com.sa/okaz/osf/20080124/Con20080124168079.htm

IT's good game in real estate market ..vip peoples gettin the benifit so easy

hey Riyadhi, I am not a conspiracist and I don't usually believe in conspiracies but i also don't find it strange on our respectful prince Alwalid to do such thing... Anwayz, i hope that what i heard is not true.

i've heard other rumours of him going around looking at lucrative businesses and trying hostile takeovers if the owners did not agree to sell..

i've heard other rumours of him going around looking at lucrative businesses and trying hostile takeovers if the owners did not agree to sell..

He's probably desperate these days as Citigroup has seen better days

Well as a business man it's his job to do so...btw i thought Al-Waleed came in and saved the Tadawul from a free fall...though it did crash, but i heard it could have been worse..

أمين جدة: لم نتسلم أي طلب لبناء ناطحة سحاب في أبحر الشمالية


محمد حضاض (جدة)
نفى أمين محافظة جدة المهندس عادل فقيه تسلم أي طلب من المستثمرين لانشاء ناطحة سحاب أو برج عملاق في أبحر الشمالية. وقال ردا على سؤال “عـكاظ” سمعنا فقط بالأمر عبر وسائل الاعلام. وكانت أراضي أحياء ابحر الشمالية شهدت ارتفاعات كبيرة خلال الأشهر الثلاثة الماضية وصلت لما يقارب 100% من أسعارها وذلك عقب أحاديث عن بناء برج عملاق في منطقة ابحر الشمالية لأحد المستثمرين.. وقد ترددت تلك الأحاديث في أوساط المكاتب العقارية والتي عملت كما يقول بعض خبراء العقار على التنافس بينها لاغراء أصحاب الأراضي ببيعها بأسعار عالية جداً لا تتناسب وموقع تلك الأراضي.

http://www.okaz.com.sa/okaz/osf/20080124/Con20080124168079.htm

guys i think he tell us the truth,isn't approval by municipality the last step?we misunderstanding the article!

guys i think he tell us the truth,isn't approval by municipality the last step?we misunderstanding the article!

Sorry, I can't understand the article,,,can s1 translate!!!

أمين جدة : لم أنف إنشاء برج بشمال أبحر

أكد أمين محافظة جدة المهندس عادل بن محمد فقيه لـ"الوطن" عدم صحة ما ذكر حول نفيه لإنشاء برج ضخم بشمال منطقة أبحر، موضحا أن ما قاله تحديدا في الفترة الماضية أن ما يجري الآن هو استكمال الدراسات التفصيلية للمشروع، وأن الأمير الوليد بن طلال لم يتقدم بالمستندات الكاملة المطلوبة للحصول على ترخيص حتى الآن.
وأضاف أن هناك دراسات وهناك اهتماماً و مازال الأمير الوليد حريصا على إقامة هذا المشروع الريادي الكبير إن شاء الله بشمال جدة.
وأشار إلى أن الأمير الوليد سبق أن عقد مؤتمرا صحفيا و أعلن أن لديه مشروعا كبيرا مؤكدا معرفته باهتمامه بتطوير منطقة شمال أبحر بمشروع كبير وجيد.
يذكر أن تناقل خبر إنشاء هذا البرج زاد من إقبال المستثمرين على شراء أراض بمنطقة شمال أبحر حيث شهدت مكاتب العقار قبل إعلان نفي قيام البرج حركة بيع وشراء نشطة ارتفعت فيها أسعار الأراضي بشكل ملحوظ فيما تراجعت حركة الشراء والبيع بعد نفي قيام البرج بإحدى الصحف المحلية لتعود فيما بعد إثر تناقل عدد من المهتمين بسوق العقار رسائل متعددة الوسائط تحمل صورا لصك شراء الموقع والإفراغ من محكمة جدة.

Prince Alwaleed to invite bids for mile-high tower

Kingdom Holding Company, controlled by Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, plans to invite bids before July for contracts to build the world's tallest tower in Saudi Arabia, a weekly magazine said.

The Mile High Tower, which could reach 1,600 metres in height, is to be built in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah and may cost up to $10 billion, the London-based Middle East Economic Digest (Meed) said in its latest issue, citing a source close to the project.

Dubai's Emaar Properties, the largest Arab developer by market value, is currently building the Burj Dubai, part of a $20 billion project in the emirate, which it says will be the world's tallest building.

The Mile High tower could be twice as tall as the Burj Dubai, Meed said. (Reuters)

hmmmmm.... i'm still in doubt about the height...

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=towergd3.gif

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=towergd3.gif


http://www.asharqalawsat.com/details.asp?section=6&issueno=10680&article=459851&search=&state=true

I wont believe that til its get build !!!

Believe it or not,,,,, It is coming....... :lol:


Are you scared of it Sdare??? :lol:

Alwalrideu prince, the world 1600m choegocheung building plans

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4184/getimagefm4.jpg
Saudi billionaire Prince alwalrideu bin talral is currently held by the Kingdom Holding Company bildingin Burj Dubai World choegocheung twice the height of the building and preparing for the new world choegocheung.

Saudi port city of Jeddah on the Red Sea coast are known to be built in the building's name is' more miles Hightower (The Mile High Tower) '. Name suggests, 1 miles (1600 m) worth of high-rise buildings. Wangongdoel end of the year, the Burj Dubai (800 m Estimated) nopyida only twice.

Recently, the Middle East Economic Prince alwalrideu Mead, in an interview with the magazine prior to July this year, a construction company bidding process to be chosen, he said.

Is expected to take a total of 10 billion US dollars' more miles Hightower 'design, the design and structure of the UK, will cover keonseoltingsa Hyder said.

Meanwhile, the Dubai World choegocheung Buzz building on the past two days deunggeukhan atrocious and the current 159 to 600 meters floors up.

'Hightower more miles' Burj Dubai, in addition to the Middle East already have the honor of building the world's choegocheung two projects that are more challenging.

Dubai government-owned development company, the height of 1200m nakileun 'al Buzz' in Kuwait, the construction of the tower construction of the Silk City (City of Silk), 'al-mubarak kabieo Buzz' plans to build a height of 1001m

^^ this seems to me translated from Korean to English,,,
What on earth Alwalrideu or choegocheung coming from.. :lol:
Look at that name 'al-mubarak kabieo Buzz'
easy with google translator...

that gave me the first good laugh for a while..............................:lol:

i'm trying to figure out the meaning of chingochang, its something about hight or record
I think buzz means burj
but the funniest part was alwalrideu bin talral :D

I Cant beleive it.World tallest in KSA.Now many countries had annouced that they are going to built world tallest building they all are in future project nothing under construction now.

If KSA is really gong to start it wil be grat.

This is Kingdom Holding's project; is there any authentic site like kingdom webpage where we can get more info? no doubt it will be a beauty.

i'm trying to figure out the meaning of chingochang, its something about hight or record
I think buzz means burj
but the funniest part was alwalrideu bin talral :D

well i think it means "Tallest Tower" ?? for example Burj Dubai World choegocheung twice the height of the building and preparing for the new world choegocheung.

IS>>>

Burj Dubai World Tallest Tower twice the height of the building and preparing for the new world Tallest Tower.

kingdom holding announcing in Jeddah Economic forum about three towers 60F and 13 towers with 25F in north jeddah!

Saudi guy, R u serious??!!
what about the mile high one??

I think this is a different project by a different company,

http://www.almadinapress.com/images/ArticlePict/md16379/1058993.jpg

The company is called Jeddah Holding; not Kingdom Holding...



http://www.almadinapress.com/index.aspx?Issueid=2681&pubid=1&CatID=80&sCatID=221&articleid=1058993

opss thanks riyadhi for correction yep it's jeddah holding!

So the construction is not started yet.I think it will take a considerable time for the owners to built it.

Thanks Riyadi, is there any English new sources for this? it would help alot

http://www.jeddaholding.com/

they should extracted the whole old infrastructure then bulid this monster at jeddah (yawaad)

i'm trying to figure out the meaning of chingochang, its something about hight or record
I think buzz means burj
but the funniest part was alwalrideu bin talral :D

that would make u "Sdalre" and me "metalre gealre"......metalre is ok but gealre is out of question .......................:D

about the chingochang ....it goes like this .
someone goes to a ( non korian ) store and asks for chingochang coca cola........and the store owner replies twenty cans of what ???

OMG I just saw this project. I hope it happens.. a friend of mine yesterday told me it got approved.. is it true??
Go KSA!!! :cheers:

DUBAI, Feb 23 (Reuters) - Kingdom Holding Co 4280.SE, controlled by Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, plans to invite bids before July for contracts to build the world's tallest tower in Saudi Arabia, a weekly magazine said.

The Mile High tower, which could reach 1,600 metres (5,249 ft) in height, is to be built in the Red Sea port city of Jeddah and may cost up to $10 billion, the London-based Middle East Economic Digest (MEED) said in its latest issue, citing a source close to the project.

Dubai's Emaar Properties EMAR.DU, the largest Arab developer by market value, is currently building the Burj Dubai, part of a $20 billion project in the emirate, which it says will be the world's tallest building.

The Mile High tower could be twice as tall as the Burj Dubai, MEED said. (Writing by Daliah Merzaban; Editing by Michael Urquhart)

Source: Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews/idUSL2361035820080223

Kingdom set to approve Mile High tower in Jeddah
Published: 22 February 2008 18:13 GMT Author: Christopher Sell More by this Author Last Updated: 24 February 2008 09:06

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud
http://www.meed.com/images/prince-alaweed_resized_250_tcm24-792702.jpg
Tenders expected within six months to build 1,600-metre skyscaper.

"It is generally understood that the project is going forward. The prince has indicated he is ready."
Source close to the project.

The Riyadh-based Kingdom Holding Company will launch, in the first half of the year, tenders for the major construction packages on its project to build the world's tallest tower in Jeddah.

The tenders will follow a final investment decision on the project, which MEED understands is imminent.

The tower in Jeddah, also known as the Mile High tower, could reach 1,600 metres, or one mile, in height, making it twice the height of the current tallest building in the world, Burj Dubai, which is under construction.

"It is generally understood that the project is going forward," says a source close to the project.

"It has not stopped and we don't think it is going to be stopped. The prince [Kingdom chairman Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud] has indicated he is ready."

While the final height and number of storeys are yet to be finalised, the budget is expected to be up to $10bn.

There is still secrecy over which companies are involved with the project. However, MEED understands that the UK's Hyder Consulting is working in a joint venture with Arup, also of the UK, as engineer on the project.

Saudi firm Omrania is the project architect and the US' Bechtel is the construction manager.

In mid-February, Andrew Davids, director of structures at Hyder, confirmed his company was working on a tower in the region that would be twice as tall as the Burj Dubai, but declined to name it (MEED 13:2:08).

According to Rukn Eldeen, project manager with Omrania, the tower plot will be 170,000 square metres.

The tower's projected height means wind will be a major factor in the design, and Eldeen says the company has spoken to wind consultants and lift manufacturers to deal with the logistical challenge of transporting elevator passengers to such a height.

The tower is part of a wider real estate project planned by Kingdom Holding.

The development covers 5.3 sq km and is located in the north of the city near the creek.

The investment value of the project is estimated at SR50bn ($13.6bn) on completion.

It will be split into a residen--
tial area of 1.5 million sq m, a business zone of 800,000 sq m, and a 470,000 sq m commercial area. There will also be an education area of 150,000 sq m, along with leisure and tourism facilities and hotels.

Omrania has worked on several Kingdom Holding projects. It designed the Kingdom Centre in Riyadh, which was completed in 2002. At 302 metres, it is currently the kingdom's tallest building.

Hyder has been working on Emaar Properties' Burj Dubai, in Dubai, which is due to be completed at the end of 2009.

Burj Dubai had reached 605 metres and 159 floors by early February, more than 90 metres higher than the world's tallest completed building, Taiwan's Taipei 101, and more than 40 metres higher than the world's tallest free-standing structure, Toronto's CN Tower. Its final height is expected to be 818 metres.

Other super-tall buildings planned in the Gulf include Burj Mubarak al-Kabir in Kuwait's City of Silk, which is expected to hit 1,001 metres, and Al-Burj in Dubai, which is planned to reach 1,200 metres.

Construction of super-tall towers creates immense construction and design challenges.

The effect of wind on the structure and the logistics of carrying out construction at such a height make such projects not only financially punishing but also technically demanding.

Author: Christopher Sell.

Source:http://www.meed.com/saudiarabia/news/2008/02/kingdom_set_to_approve_mile_high_tower_in_jeddah.html

Hyder designing skyscraper twice as tall as Burj Dubai...
http://www.meed.com/news/2008/02/hyder_designing_megatall_tower.html

Alwaleed to build Mile High Tower in Jeddah.
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZAWYA20080224054447#

i always said it has a good chance, my feeling was right :)

great news... now all we can do is wait until June...

i always said it has a good chance, my feeling was right :)


I seems like a forgone conclusion that this colossal building will be built. Obviously desire and money are no problem behind this tower. Funny that by June they could begin preparation for a building that would make BD third tallest after this colossus and Al Burj.

I'm behind in fully supporting this legendary height building. It is Frank Lloyd Wright's Mile High City realized.


Lotta fun, lotta fun.
:)

great news
I think it is going to happen :)

awesome! :eek:

SO the race is again ON for the tallest building i the world.GO KSA GO GO GO UP UP UP.

Who does not know Waleed bin Talal is doubt building such a giant tower
When the newborn built tower Kingdom was not there in the Gulf and the Middle East at such a height always trying to distinguish and now has spread towers high in the Kingdom and the Gulf and became brothers in Riyadh is Lilliputian next to the towers and because of that, the richest rich Arabs and ex financial position is not satisfactory, however, To be in the forefront of this oldest building this architectural miracle, through which he wanted to develop the Saudi Prince as both insulted him in the building
Believe me if this project as they left us with his statement newborn famous in the Middle East to build the tower giant has said some news about a journalist and was only emphasized the presence of the company designed for the office tower with Prince and the final design and seen in the photos in the official website of the Kingdom Holding Company and newspapers 0
Finally, I want to say that the final form of the tower will be different from what appeared to now in all of the network Alsoralamtdolh it will remain secret, in terms of form and height to be completed in all matters relating to the construction of this edifice

I seems like a forgone conclusion that this colossal building will be built. Obviously desire and money are no problem behind this tower. Funny that by June they could begin preparation for a building that would make BD third tallest after this colossus and Al Burj.

I'm behind in fully supporting this legendary height building. It is Frank Lloyd Wright's Mile High City realized.


Lotta fun, lotta fun.
:)

4th tallest, don't forget that the construction of the Mubarak Tower in Kuwait is also quite sure :)

Who does not know Waleed bin Talal is doubt building such a giant tower
When the newborn built tower Kingdom was not there in the Gulf and the Middle East at such a height always trying to distinguish and now has spread towers high in the Kingdom and the Gulf and became brothers in Riyadh is Lilliputian next to the towers and because of that, the richest rich Arabs and ex financial position is not satisfactory, however, To be in the forefront of this oldest building this architectural miracle, through which he wanted to develop the Saudi Prince as both insulted him in the building
Believe me if this project as they left us with his statement newborn famous in the Middle East to build the tower giant has said some news about a journalist and was only emphasized the presence of the company designed for the office tower with Prince and the final design and seen in the photos in the official website of the Kingdom Holding Company and newspapers 0
Finally, I want to say that the final form of the tower will be different from what appeared to now in all of the network Alsoralamtdolh it will remain secret, in terms of form and height to be completed in all matters relating to the construction of this edifice

did you type your post in arabic and use google to translate it? :lol:

Is salman bay artificially created?

Would that mean Jeddah would be the heaviest skyscraper in the world?

^^ well unless its going to be made out of tinfoil I would guess so. ;)

maybe,not in quantity but as a Uniquity ;)

I don't know if it was already mentioned... but how deep would the foundation have to be for that structure... another mile underground!

i think its around 1km depth cuz burj dubai 470m as i remember.

Kingdom set to approve Mile High tower in Jeddah


Interesting. I think we might be taking the skyscraper technology a little too far. Who would want to live in the 300th floor?

Plus, most/many of the apartments in Burj Dubai were sold to foreign customers. As we all know Jeddah is not Dubai and probably will not be Dubai so I wonder who will purchase the apartments and whether it is financially beneficial or just ego driven.

i think its around 1km depth cuz burj dubai 470m as i remember.

470 m….that’s absolutely impossible and does not make any sense. it might be 47 meter :)

^^ might aswell build the tower underground.....

470 m….that’s absolutely impossible and does not make any sense. it might be 47 meter :)

yah i think y r right i check it out its ~50m:nuts:

all photos below by burjdubaiskyscraper.com
Burj Dubai Right Now
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5075/burjdubai022703yc8.jpg

burj duabi base at 2004
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6892/directlinkmt4.jpg

render showing the slab piling under the base
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/burjdubai-foundation-slab-piling.jpg

^^ might aswell build the tower underground.....

:lol:

^^ i wasent joking ! 1000m just for a 1600m tower OMG !!!! fill that foundation and all with floors parking etc........

Would that mean Jeddah would be the heaviest skyscraper in the world?

For some information,

The Sears Tower is 222,500 tons.
Empire State Building is 365,000 tons
Former Twin Towers were 500,000 tons each approximately.
Taipei 101 has heavy reinforced concrete and weighs over 700,000 tons.

It depends how much concrete is used in the Jeddah supertower. I don't know if they will be pumping concrete that high. If they do, then they would be pumping it up in stages. The middle east is not an earthquake region per se like other places around the world so solid concrete is not necessary. Major loads will be due to the wind on something one mile tall. New innovative techniques with steel would be used to maintain rigidity. My guess is that concrete will go to around 800m IF at all that high and then steel. Half concrete and half steel at over 1600m?

Then the weight could be 1.2 to 1.5 million tons load on the piles. The piles on Al Burj will go down to 150m. Al Burj could possibly weigh up to 800,000 tons. This is just an educated guess based on no new rendering.

This collosal monster in Jeddah will also be one huge building outside of height. My final guess, 1.5 million tons.

This will be some building. No doubts about that.

:cheers:

I still do not want this tower built because
1. The proposal would be more suitable to a city with a population of over 10 million.
2. It will take forever to construct this building.
3. There may be some problems involving its construction
Is there any opposition to this Mile High tower project at all?

^^ me :D

I was just saying that the tower will be a white elephant mainly because of its height.

nothing's impossible nowadays
money can do anything! Alwaleed too!!

I was just saying that the tower will be a white elephant mainly because of its height.

DUDE how many white elephants are you seeing these days in KSA.

I'm not sure the Burj Dubai is a profitable venture itself. It is part of a larger Dubai complex and emerging city. It is not about profit.

Those who are behind BD, Al Burj, Silk Tower, Mile High etc are in a region who control their respective nation's wealth. Viable economics will never come to play.

The Mile High building is part of a 25 year expansion in Jeddah and this will be a showpiece to the world of a "new" Saudi Arabia. A billionaire prince NOT using his personal wealth is behind it. No public opposition would take place.

What city over 10 million would accept it? None in any earthquake zones and none in any free market democratic economies either. Jim doesn't want it built (past tense usage of the word) because it will take forever (on going future tense) to build it. ?

Also a reason was that "there maybe SOME problems involving construction." For example like the Palm Islands and Burj Dubai? All were rectified. Those that are engineering this thing would never begin construction if the problems were serious enough as to affect the structural integrity of the building due to height and environmental dynamics...ie wind loads.

Jim is making some good points here. Not to bring him down on this. It is just what Sandniga was saying in that MONEY (along with new sound technology) can overcome sociol/political concerns if there is enough of it for a project. With the escalating price of oil per barrel there is plenty of funding for this by it's backers and supporters.

Lotta fun, lotta fun. :)

Saudi Arabia and the rich Gulf States are in a race to build the world’s tallest building. With oil revenues at an all-time high, coffers are bursting and local rulers want to spend billions of dollars to raise architectural giants.


Dubai (AsiaNews/Agencies) – The Gulf States are racing for the tallest building and Saudi Arabia is planning an incredible mile-high skyscraper in the city of Jeddah for the “modest” sum of US$ 10 billion. News about the plan was reported by Middle East Economic Digest but a veil of secrecy covers the whole project, including the names of the building companies involved.

Kuwait has also unveiled a plan to build a 1,001-metre tower. Its height is a reference to the classic work of Arabic literature, One Thousand and One Nights.

The monumental tower will rise in the city of Subbiya on the northern border with Iraq and be completed by 2030.

A mosque, a church and a synagogue will be built near the top of the tower to signify the unity of the three monotheistic religions.

Such monumental projects are possible thanks to the rise in oil prices.

But whilst as building the planned towers might be engineering masterpieces, there are those who have doubts about their usefulness.

“These new projects push architecture and engineering to new limits, though it's also possible to create buildings and landmarks that aren't that high, but are viable and, most important, beautiful,” Allan Chamberlin, an Australian Dubai-based architect, told Agence France Presse.

In an environmentally-conscious age, many Gulf States have adopted laws requiring builders to meet high environmental standards in new mega-buildings. But Chamberlin still asks: “Do we really need to build it?”

link: http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11758&size=A

other source:
http://www.ameinfo.com/147813.html

one of the developers... http://www.hyderconsulting.com/EN/Pages/default.aspx

Hyder Consulting is an international advisory and design consultancy with particular specialisation in infrastructure, property and environmental solutions.

With over 4,000 people across the UK, Europe, Middle East, Asia, Australia and New Zealand, we offer clients the benefit of global expertise coupled with local knowledge.

I'm not sure the Burj Dubai is a profitable venture itself. It is part of a larger Dubai complex and emerging city. It is not about profit.

Those who are behind BD, Al Burj, Silk Tower, Mile High etc are in a region who control their respective nation's wealth. Viable economics will never come to play.

The Mile High building is part of a 25 year expansion in Jeddah and this will be a showpiece to the world of a "new" Saudi Arabia. A billionaire prince NOT using his personal wealth is behind it. No public opposition would take place.

What city over 10 million would accept it? None in any earthquake zones and none in any free market democratic economies either. Jim doesn't want it built (past tense usage of the word) because it will take forever (on going future tense) to build it. ?

Also a reason was that "there maybe SOME problems involving construction." For example like the Palm Islands and Burj Dubai? All were rectified. Those that are engineering this thing would never begin construction if the problems were serious enough as to affect the structural integrity of the building due to height and environmental dynamics...ie wind loads.

Jim is making some good points here. Not to bring him down on this. It is just what Sandniga was saying in that MONEY (along with new sound technology) can overcome sociol/political concerns if there is enough of it for a project. With the escalating price of oil per barrel there is plenty of funding for this by it's backers and supporters.

Lotta fun, lotta fun. :)

very articulate....great perspective on the issue....thanks..

I have a feeling that this tower will be a super tall but no where near a mile high... I would like to see 10 300+ towers forming a nice skyline instead of one out of place space elevator!

I have a feeling that this tower will be a super tall but no where near a mile high... I would like to see 10 300+ towers forming a nice skyline instead of one out of place space elevator!

I agree with 10Billion Dollars you can definetly recreate the entire SZR complex and then some.

I have a feeling that this tower will be a super tall but no where near a mile high... I would like to see 10 300+ towers forming a nice skyline instead of one out of place space elevator!


well...it really is a dilemma...i mean...yeah 10 300m+ towers make more sense and would fill out an area nicely....but that wouldn't make a statement...
i think the whole idea behind such projects (BD, Al Burj, Silk, Mile High) is to make a statement...something like..."we have arrived" or..."my penis is bigger than yours" :lol:

well said beyond 1000 yah i was thinking about your points specially that ''because it will take forever (on going future tense) to build it. ?''i think you are right its an ages to see it in realty!!BTW are you member in SSP?

I have a feeling that this tower will be a super tall but no where near a mile high... I would like to see 10 300+ towers forming a nice skyline instead of one out of place space elevator!
yah Riyadhi that will be great to have 10 towers ~300m but we will lose something very important its THE ICON,mile tower will be a big advertisement for Saudi Arabia in various way as we seen about burj Dubai! other thing many people didn't heard about that city called jeddah before mile tower has announced year ago,so IMO they Should built it sooner not later.

many people didn't heard about that city called jeddah before mile tower has announced year ago,so IMO they Should built it sooner not later.

Jeddah may not be well recognized but Saudi Arabia as a country would rank among the top five most recognized country in the world! Economic benefit should be the main driving factor behind projects.

well...it really is a dilemma...i mean...yeah 10 300m+ towers make more sense and would fill out an area nicely....but that wouldn't make a statement...
i think the whole idea behind such projects (BD, Al Burj, Silk, Mile High) is to make a statement...something like..."we have arrived" or..."my penis is bigger than yours" :lol:

:lol:

i think that these project ar just to show that we are in the race.Even if htey wont built any but feels proud that we are going to built it.