Proposed Sangley Point International Airport-Seaport Development Project

[bartstrife99]

di kaya ma-block ang view ng Manila Bay sunset?

I think this is too far to block the manila bay view sunset...

[galore]

you mean it will go beyond the horizon if you're from roxas blvd.?

[spearhead]

^^^ exactly what i had in mind. we can't have a bridge to block the serenity of the sunset.

di kaya ma-block ang view ng Manila Bay sunset?

You guys are right and maybe that was one of the reason why that plan was shelved.

yup mayor of Korea is visiting cavite City, Mayor Ding jang Gee (not for sure the name) of Dangjin City ,Korea i dont any have camera to take a picture of the said announcement posted in the entrance of Cavite City. those caviteno's who will participate in the Regada festival this coming June 24,08 can see the said poster. as far as i know even the Queen Elizabeth of England already visited the Cavite City in the 90's so this is not new for other respected people around the world to visit the historical City.



So hopefully he brings some new investments there! :)

[spearhead]

I think this is too far to block the manila bay view sunset...


I think the sunset will not gonna be blocked that bad anyway because the planned bridge was a Cable Stayed Suspension bridge simlar to the photo and the one in Mactan. Beside its still gonna be a pretty sight if you see the shadow of a suspensin bridge.... But yes, it could also be the reason why it was shelved.... :)

[mygz14]

I don't think the Manila Bay Sunset, as seen from Metro Manila, will be blocked by such a project. Normally, when I look at the sunset, it always seems to set behind Mt. Mariveles and Mt. Samat, which are located West of Manila. In my opinion, the bridge, if ever built, should traverse from the tip of Bataan towards the southern towns of Cavite (i.e. Naic, Ternate).

Also, I did a little research on Dangjin, Korea.

It's a small county located at the western coast of Korea, south of Seoul. Cavite City and Dangjin share many commonalities. Both are small local government units surrounded by bodies of water making them good docking sites. Both have historical significance. Dangjin was Korea's ferry town for those who wish to travel to the other side of the Yellow Sea (China in particular) and Cavite City was the site of Galleon Construction and served as a watch tower for those who wish to enter Manila bay and capture Manila. However, while Cavite no longer functions as a harbor city, Dangjin continues to be so. Also, this Korean Gun (County) also boasts of the longest bridge in Korea, the Seohae Grand Bridge (http://www.egypteng.com/projectm/grandnew.asp). Anyway, I hope our Korean friends will help spur development in this city of ours.

[lochinvar]

"Mt. Mariveles and Mt. Samat, which are located east of Manila"

Hmmmm, sounds like the film "Krakatoa, East of Java."

[WANCH]

"Mt. Mariveles and Mt. Samat, which are located east of Manila"

Hmmmm, sounds like the film "Krakatoa, East of Java."

Yeah but Krakatoa is actually west of Java ;)

[Lucentino]

I don't think the Manila Bay Sunset, as seen from Metro Manila, will be blocked by such a project. Normally, when I look at the sunset, it always seems to set behind Mt. Mariveles and Mt. Samat, which are located east of Manila. In my opinion, the bridge, if ever built, should traverse from the tip of Bataan towards the southern towns of Cavite (i.e. Naic, Ternate).

Yup, IMO nothing would be blocked in case this project pushes through. It would be a good 25-30km away from the shores of Manila --- too far to cast a shadow even for a bridge as high as PBCom Tower.

Might be a different story for Cavite City though... but it would be better to see the sun set over the bridge than over the troubled waters... :lol:

Passing the bridge, one might have a good view of Corregidor Islands...

[mygz14]

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[mygz14]

I stand corrected, Mt. Mariveles and Mt. Samat are located WEST of Manila, instead of what I earlier stated. By the way, the City Government has created an Office for this development. It is located at Samonte Park and shares the same building with the Cavite Tourism Council.

[mygz14]

Are there any new news about this thread? I only go home once a week.

[kiretoce]

P16.7 M okayed for hiring of consultant for study on Sangley Point logistics hub (http://www.mb.com.ph/PROV20080722130401.html)

The board of directors of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA, formerly the Public Estates Authority) headed by its chairman, former Senator Ramon Revilla Sr., recently approved the allocation of P16.7 million for the hiring of a consultancy firm tasked to prepare the pre-feasibility study and master plan to convert Sangley Point in Cavite City into an international logistics hub with modern seaport and airport with a reclamation component.


Under Executive Order No. 629 signed by President Arroyo on June 21, 2007, the PRA, together with the city government of Cavite City and other government agencies was tasked to form an inter-agency executive committee to oversee the planning and implementation of the project to be chaired by Revilla, and co-chaired by Cavite City Mayor Bernardo S. Paredes.

Revilla sees the project as an opportunity for all the agencies involved to work harmoniously and "give our economy the much needed boost through investments that this project will ultimately attract, and place the Philippines in the limelight of global trade and commerce. This will bring our country back to financial competitiveness and erase the demeaning tag of being Asia’s laggard."

"Once completed, it is expected to be Asia’s one of the best, rivaling existing hubs in Hong Kong and Singapore. These two countries are currently Asia’s leaders in cargo handling and transshipment operations. The Sangley development project would directly and laterally increase local and foreign investments, international trade, job opportunities and tourism related activities. This will also be our answer to complaints constantly raised by foreign investors that we lack the infrastructure required to make their investments viable," Revilla said.

For more than 200 years since the 16th century, the province of Cavite had been the main duty-free port and depository for trade and goods between Asia and Europe.

Spanish galleons made two round trips annually between Cavite and Acapulco in Mexico laden with Chinese silk and porcelain; perfumes, spices and cotton from India; precious stones and silver from Europe and South America.

Forecasts made by ESCAP (the Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific) indicated that Southeast Asia will need 150 additional container berths by 2015. Berths capable of handling the giant super-Panamax container ships (currently the largest class of container vessel plying the seas).

These will be for the increasing traffic across the Pacific, with most of the cargo for Hong Kong, but a large part for transshipment to Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand Malaysia and Singapore. Despite additional berths being planned for construction by Singapore, there will be a shortage of 255 berths in the next decade, the agency said.

Revilla said, "we should take advantage of this shortage and fill in the gap."

[JanG257]

If they will push through Sangley Point Intl' Airport and blah...blah..blah...then Sangley Point and NAIA will end up like SFO and LAX...l0l...

[kiretoce]

^^ Manila-Clark-Sangley airports would be more like Kennedy-La Guardia-Newark airports in New York City.

[Xeon]

Hmm will NAIA be closed down in the near future, for future developments just like what happened to Bonifacio?
From what I've been reading it seems like Metro Manila would have 3 major airports surrounding it maybe like NYC... :)

But this is great news for development!

[mwg12a]

^^^ Probably not completely closed, I believe it will still be around but the main gateway would be moved elsewhere... DMIA would be the best bet because the planned facility or area in Sangley will still have to be reclaimed and that takes years as well. I am betting on the fact that DMIA will help relieve the congestions in NAIA and if DMIA (or even sangley) take all the international operations, NAIA will still have mostly domestic services in Manila.

[lochinvar]

"Nardong Putik" is the coordinator for this huge project? What was his record when he was a senator?

[bustero]

I guess COSCO was totally turned off by our politics! Oh well. Sana matuloy itong project na ito though. It would be great to give North South Harbor a run for their money.

[mygz14]

A feasibility study for the place would be a good start, but I hope it won't end up like the rest of projects here in the country. I want it to be built as fast as China builds theirs, without sacrificing the quality. If a person and/or society is driven, it should not hinder development.

[PompeiiLad69]

^^ Manila-Clark-Sangley airports would be more like Kennedy-La Guardia-Newark airports in New York City.

what he was talking about is airports face to face coast to coast like SFO and LAX isnt?? :)

[kiretoce]

^^ Huh? You're not making sense. SFO and LAX are 300 plus miles apart from each other. What I said was should MNL, CRK, and SGL airports be all operational and serving Metro Manila and the surrounding provinces, it'll be like JFK, LGA, and EWR serving New York City and the whole tri-state area (NY, NJ, and CT).

[PompeiiLad69]

^^ Huh? You're not making sense. SFO and LAX are 300 plus miles apart from each other. What I said was should MNL, CRK, and SGL airports be all operational and serving Metro Manila and the surrounding provinces, it'll be like JFK, LGA, and EWR serving New York City and the whole tri-state area (NY, NJ, and CT).

oHh ryt sorry..

[spearhead]

^^^ Probably not completely closed, I believe it will still be around but the main gateway would be moved elsewhere... DMIA would be the best bet because the planned facility or area in Sangley will still have to be reclaimed and that takes years as well. I am betting on the fact that DMIA will help relieve the congestions in NAIA and if DMIA (or even sangley) take all the international operations, NAIA will still have mostly domestic services in Manila.


If ever na matuloy ang planned modern sea/airport at sangley point and IF the airport can support w/ larger capacity more than what NAIA can ever handle, then there will be no use to operate the NAIA. 2 modern and large int'l airports serving manila w/ that kind of proximity is more than enough.

What i could really see here is, yes they may completely close the NAIA and converting it into another commercial/business complex city similar to the global and makati city are a more realistic goal than keeping 3 airports within 30 to 100 km radius serving manila. Beside, we need a lot of space to build our future skycraper dreams like some 300ft or more towers/buildings, olympic size stadium/complex, new freeways, hotels, ad other infrastructure developments to support our progressing economy.

[spearhead]

P16.7 M okayed for hiring of consultant for study on Sangley Point logistics hub (http://www.mb.com.ph/PROV20080722130401.html)

The board of directors of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA, formerly the Public Estates Authority) headed by its chairman, former Senator Ramon Revilla Sr., recently approved the allocation of P16.7 million for the hiring of a consultancy firm tasked to prepare the pre-feasibility study and master plan to convert Sangley Point in Cavite City into an international logistics hub with modern seaport and airport with a reclamation component.


Under Executive Order No. 629 signed by President Arroyo on June 21, 2007, the PRA, together with the city government of Cavite City and other government agencies was tasked to form an inter-agency executive committee to oversee the planning and implementation of the project to be chaired by Revilla, and co-chaired by Cavite City Mayor Bernardo S. Paredes.

Revilla sees the project as an opportunity for all the agencies involved to work harmoniously and "give our economy the much needed boost through investments that this project will ultimately attract, and place the Philippines in the limelight of global trade and commerce. This will bring our country back to financial competitiveness and erase the demeaning tag of being Asia’s laggard."

"Once completed, it is expected to be Asia’s one of the best, rivaling existing hubs in Hong Kong and Singapore. These two countries are currently Asia’s leaders in cargo handling and transshipment operations. The Sangley development project would directly and laterally increase local and foreign investments, international trade, job opportunities and tourism related activities. This will also be our answer to complaints constantly raised by foreign investors that we lack the infrastructure required to make their investments viable," Revilla said.

For more than 200 years since the 16th century, the province of Cavite had been the main duty-free port and depository for trade and goods between Asia and Europe.

Spanish galleons made two round trips annually between Cavite and Acapulco in Mexico laden with Chinese silk and porcelain; perfumes, spices and cotton from India; precious stones and silver from Europe and South America.

Forecasts made by ESCAP (the Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific) indicated that Southeast Asia will need 150 additional container berths by 2015. Berths capable of handling the giant super-Panamax container ships (currently the largest class of container vessel plying the seas).

These will be for the increasing traffic across the Pacific, with most of the cargo for Hong Kong, but a large part for transshipment to Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand Malaysia and Singapore. Despite additional berths being planned for construction by Singapore, there will be a shortage of 255 berths in the next decade, the agency said.

Revilla said, "we should take advantage of this shortage and fill in the gap."

I hope u have a better source. Somehow i can't open the webpage. Tnx! :)

[Bootkin]

Here's my five cents on this project: Go for it!

Components of the Sangley Point Airport-Seaport Hub would be as follows:

1. Double Runway (using existing runway, extension & reclaimation)
2. International & Domestic PassengerTerminal (same as HKIA) / Shopping Mall (could be a tie up between SM Holdings & Robinson. Tourist coming in will immediately be greeted by the Philippine shopping experience. OFWs arriving could bring their family to a treat at the Jollibee agad.
3. Cargo Terminal
4. Hotel & Convention Center
5. Seaport for Domestic Ferry Services, International Cruise Liners, as well as Domestic Sea Cargo Hub
6. Bus Terminal for in-region travel
7. Railway Line to Fort Bonifacio Central Station

In this event, Clark Freeport Zone & DMIA, could serve as a Logistics Corridor, Export Processing Zone, and Aerospace Industries.

As for COSCO, I think it would be better if local conglomerates will take this project up.

As for NAIA 1, 3, Centenial - sell the land and use the proceeds to build the new airport.

Simpleng isipin - pero parang mahirap gawin. LOL!

Bootkin

[Potchot69]

Guys, meron na bang thread ang R-1 Expressway Extension Project? Kung wala pa, puwedeng pakisimulan with pictures? Thanks.

[mygz14]

Guys, meron na bang thread ang R-1 Expressway Extension Project? Kung wala pa, puwedeng pakisimulan with pictures? Thanks.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=360380

[mygz14]

I hope u have a better source. Somehow i can't open the webpage. Tnx! :)

I have a similar news article.

PRA allots P16.7M for consultants in Sangley Point conversion

MANILA, Philippines - The board of directors of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA) has allocated P16.7 million for the hiring of a consultancy firm to prepare the master plan for the conversion of the Sangley Point in Cavite City into an international logistics hub.

Former Sen. Ramon Revilla, chair of the PRA board, said that the winning bidder for the consultancy is expected to determine the technical, economic and financial viability of the project including its social acceptability and environmental integrity.

The entire project is expected to cost P200 billion.

Revilla said the converted Sangley Point will have three major physical components - an international seaport and container terminal, a modern international airport and a reclamation component that will compliment the proposed developments in the area and provide expansion for export processing zones, industrial, commercial and tourism purposes.

“An inseparable part of each component is the construction of a causeway that will connect the Manila-Cavite coastal road to Cavite City," Revilla said.

In a statement sent by PRA media relations officer Jerry Panela, Revilla said the conversion of the Sangley Point into a modern seaport and airport will boost the country’s economy.

Revilla chairs the inter-agency executive committee while Cavite City Mayor Bernardo Paredes is his co-chairman.

“The project will give our economy the much needed boost through investments because this will ultimately attract and place the Philippines in the limelight of global trade and commerce. This will bring our country back into financial competitiveness and erase the demeaning tag of being Asia’s laggard," Revilla said.

Revilla said that the province of Cavite has been the main duty-free port and depository for trade and goods between Asia and Europe for more than 200 years since the 16th century in Philippine history.

He recalled that Spanish galleons made two round trips annually between Cavite and Acapulco in Mexico laden with Chinese silk and porcelain; perfumes, spices and cotton from India; precious stones and silver from Europe and South America.

Sangley Point was once used by the American military as a ship repair facility and berthing area before it was turned over to the Philippine government in 1971.

It is now being by units of the the Philippine Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard.

Revilla said that Executive Order (EO) 629 - signed by President Arroyo on June 21, 2007 - the PRA, along with the local government officials of the Cavite City and other government agencies, has been tasked to form an inter-agency executive committee to oversee the planning and implementation of the conversion of Sangley Point into an international logistics hub.

The other members of the Sangley Point Development project executive committee include the secretaries of the Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC), Department of National Defense (DND), National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA), Department of Trade and Industry (DTI), Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR), Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) and the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA). - GMANews.TV
(http://www.gmanews.tv/story/110929/PRA-allots-P167M-for-consultants-in-Sangley-Point-conversion)

[Potchot69]

@mygz14
Found it. Thanks, dude.

[spearhead]

I have a similar news article.

PRA allots P16.7M for consultants in Sangley Point conversion

MANILA, Philippines - The board of directors of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA) has allocated P16.7 million for the hiring of a consultancy firm to prepare the master plan for the conversion of the Sangley Point in Cavite City into an international logistics hub.

Former Sen. Ramon Revilla, chair of the PRA board, said that the winning bidder for the consultancy is expected to determine the technical, economic and financial viability of the project including its social acceptability and environmental integrity.

The entire project is expected to cost P200 billion.

Revilla said the converted Sangley Point will have three major physical components - an international seaport and container terminal, a modern international airport and a reclamation component that will compliment the proposed developments in the area and provide expansion for export processing zones, industrial, commercial and tourism purposes.

“An inseparable part of each component is the construction of a causeway that will connect the Manila-Cavite coastal road to Cavite City," Revilla said.

In a statement sent by PRA media relations officer Jerry Panela, Revilla said the conversion of the Sangley Point into a modern seaport and airport will boost the country’s economy.

Revilla chairs the inter-agency executive committee while Cavite City Mayor Bernardo Paredes is his co-chairman.

“The project will give our economy the much needed boost through investments because this will ultimately attract and place the Philippines in the limelight of global trade and commerce. This will bring our country back into financial competitiveness and erase the demeaning tag of being Asia’s laggard," Revilla said.

Revilla said that the province of Cavite has been the main duty-free port and depository for trade and goods between Asia and Europe for more than 200 years since the 16th century in Philippine history.

He recalled that Spanish galleons made two round trips annually between Cavite and Acapulco in Mexico laden with Chinese silk and porcelain; perfumes, spices and cotton from India; precious stones and silver from Europe and South America.

Sangley Point was once used by the American military as a ship repair facility and berthing area before it was turned over to the Philippine government in 1971.

It is now being by units of the the Philippine Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard.

Revilla said that Executive Order (EO) 629 - signed by President Arroyo on June 21, 2007 - the PRA, along with the local government officials of the Cavite City and other government agencies, has been tasked to form an inter-agency executive committee to oversee the planning and implementation of the conversion of Sangley Point into an international logistics hub.

The other members of the Sangley Point Development project executive committee include the secretaries of the Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC), Department of National Defense (DND), National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA), Department of Trade and Industry (DTI), Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR), Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) and the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA). - GMANews.TV
(http://www.gmanews.tv/story/110929/PRA-allots-P167M-for-consultants-in-Sangley-Point-conversion)

P200B is like $4-5B w/ a definite reclamation projects involved, the budget looks big but possibly with only 1 or 2 airport runways as it is also including half of its budget to build the modern seaport. So we're not gonna see any big time international airport here yet, something that may replace NAIA sometime in the future. But hopefully, the planned sangley int'l airport is expandable for future airport extensions. Because i really feel that NAIA is not only polluting the air around manila, it is also dangerously too close from the nearby residential and commercial establishments. That's why building an int'l airport off manila bay in cavite w/c is not too far from manila, is an excellent idea.

Here's my five cents on this project: Go for it!

Components of the Sangley Point Airport-Seaport Hub would be as follows:

1. Double Runway (using existing runway, extension & reclaimation)
2. International & Domestic PassengerTerminal (same as HKIA) / Shopping Mall (could be a tie up between SM Holdings & Robinson. Tourist coming in will immediately be greeted by the Philippine shopping experience. OFWs arriving could bring their family to a treat at the Jollibee agad.
3. Cargo Terminal
4. Hotel & Convention Center
5. Seaport for Domestic Ferry Services, International Cruise Liners, as well as Domestic Sea Cargo Hub
6. Bus Terminal for in-region travel
7. Railway Line to Fort Bonifacio Central Station

In this event, Clark Freeport Zone & DMIA, could serve as a Logistics Corridor, Export Processing Zone, and Aerospace Industries.

As for COSCO, I think it would be better if local conglomerates will take this project up.

As for NAIA 1, 3, Centenial - sell the land and use the proceeds to build the new airport.

Simpleng isipin - pero parang mahirap gawin. LOL!

Bootkin

I like your idea. Add some rail network system there at that planned sangley int'l air/seaports, and the joint-military use of naval & air bases. :cheers:

[xoelts]

is this for real..a new airport?? how about the DMIA? that PGMA said

[spearhead]

is this for real..a new airport?? how about the DMIA? that PGMA said

3rd int'l airport is being planned off manila bay. :)

[lochinvar]

"3rd int'l airport is being planned off manila bay."

According to Taguig Mayor Tinga, he is planning to build a 4th airport for Metromanila along the coast of the Laguna de Bay. God Almighty!

[mygz14]

I still can't imagine what it would look like in the future.

[greenshields]

Humihingi na nga ng meeting si Tinga with DOTC officials. Hehe.

[xoelts]

really? third airport?? wow..im looking forward for it!!

[seven07]

its a good thing they are trying to build an airport in cavite. cavite really needs this.

[spearhead]

"3rd int'l airport is being planned off manila bay."

According to Taguig Mayor Tinga, he is planning to build a 4th airport for Metromanila along the coast of the Laguna de Bay. God Almighty!

3RD to service metro manila and its immediate surrounding cities/provinces.

[mygz14]

MANILA, Philippines — A fisherfolk group alliance threatened to file a separate class suit against Environment Secretary Joselito Atienza if he refused to stop government reclamation activities along Manila Bay.

The Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas (Pamalakaya) said unbridled reclamation activities contributes to the destruction of the bay.

“We are not happy with the way the national government is treating Manila Bay. We are being blamed for its deterioration. Why us? We are not destroyers of natural resources and marine environment," Pamalakaya chairman Fernando Hicap said in a statement.

“We cannot destroy our main source of livelihood. It is impossible for us to do that, because destroying Manila Bay is like destroying our basis for existence. In fact, we are victims here," he said.

Hicap said his group will discuss the planned class suit with their legal counsel and leaders and members in Bataan, Bulacan, Navotas, Cavite and allies in Parañaque and Las Piñas.

“The real culprits in the destruction of Manila Bay are the national government and its corporate clients performing anti-environment and anti-people businesses along the bay," Hicap said.

He said the government is at fault not just for allowing factories and commercial establishments to discharge toxic wastes in Pasig River and Manila Bay, but also for its baywide reclamation projects.

The militant group said about 20,000 hectares of Manila Bay waters have been subjected to reclamation to pave way for the construction of special economic zones in Bataan and Cavite, the commercial spaces presently occupied by Manila Film Center, the GSIS Building in Pasay City, the Cultural Center of the Philippines and Folk Arts Theater in Manila, and the SM Mall of Asia and other commercial companies in Pasay City.

Pamalakaya said Secretary Atienza has given the state-owned Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (Pagcor) the environmental clearance certificate to develop the 90-hectare reclaimed casino and resort complex in Manila Bay that will begin in the third quarter of the year.

Pagcor said companies with approved proposals must invest at least US$1 billion for their projects, with initial $400 million investments in the first two years

On top of the $15 billion casino project to be constructed along Manila Bay, Pamalakaya said Secretary Atienza had granted ECC to the ambitious Cavite Coastal Road Project II that would involve reclamation of more than 8,000 hectares of coastal waters along Manila Bay from Bacoor to Cavite City.

Reports said aside from coastal road that would link Manila to Cavite, an international seaport will be constructed and will be annexed to the revive Sangley Point, a former US military base.

Pamalakaya said close to 3 million coastal people in Metro Manila and Cavite are still dependent on fishing as principal source of livelihood, and any move to transform or convert Manila Bay for other purposes like the $15-billion casino project and the Cavite Phase II Coastal Road project will have a killing impact on the livelihood of small fishermen, aside from the fact that they would be demolished from their communities, once construction of support structures and establishments begins.

“From 1992 to 1995, the demolitions of coastal shanties became an everyday ordeal in Pasay Reclamation area. Houses were uprooted on almost day-to-day basis. Small and big time bribery to divide the communities were conducted to facilitate the demolition of coastal communities," Pamalakaya said.

The setting up of casino and resorts, including SM’sMall of Asia was all in the master plan of the government known as Manila Bay Master Development Plan that officially started during the time of President Ramos and projected to end between 2020 and 2025.

Hicap recalled that 3,500 small fisherfolk in the Pasay Reclamation Area, and another 3,000 coastal and urban poor families along the coastal shores of Parañaque, were evicted by the government of former President Ramos to pave way for the construction of the proposed casino that would make the Philippines the Las Vegas of Asia

The militant group said 60 percent of pollution entering Manila Bay comes through the Pasig River, and 80 percent of the pollution comes from industries and commercial establishments situated along the country’s major river system in the National Capital Region. Another 15 percent of the pollution that gets into Manila Bay comes from Pampanga River, which the group said, is colonized by big and small polluting factories.

“The government is blaming overfishing as a major factor in the degradation of Manila Bay. That is a flimsy and ridiculous excuse. The massive privatization and conversion of public lands and coastal communities along the bay since the Marcos dictatorship up to present administration of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is the principal reason why Manila Bay is under the Intensive Care Unit, and suffering from environmental comatose," Pamalakaya said. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/113985/Environment-chief-threatened-with-class-suit-over-Manila-Bay-reclamations)

[Potchot69]

P_tang inang mga aktibistang 'yan! Puro reklamo sa kahirapan ng bansa. Ngayong me ginagawa ang pamahalaan para masolusyonan ang kahirapan, bara naman sila ng bara! Ayaw nilang magalaw ang mga squatter sa reclamation at coastal road dahil gusto nilang gan'on na lang sila lagi, walang asenso para may maidahilan pa sila sa mga protesta nila! Mga gago!!!:bash:

[702flyguy]

MANILA, Philippines — A fisherfolk group alliance threatened to file a separate class suit against Environment Secretary Joselito Atienza if he refused to stop government reclamation activities along Manila Bay.

The Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas (Pamalakaya) said unbridled reclamation activities contributes to the destruction of the bay.

“We are not happy with the way the national government is treating Manila Bay. We are being blamed for its deterioration. Why us? We are not destroyers of natural resources and marine environment," Pamalakaya chairman Fernando Hicap said in a statement.

“We cannot destroy our main source of livelihood. It is impossible for us to do that, because destroying Manila Bay is like destroying our basis for existence. In fact, we are victims here," he said.

Hicap said his group will discuss the planned class suit with their legal counsel and leaders and members in Bataan, Bulacan, Navotas, Cavite and allies in Parañaque and Las Piñas.

“The real culprits in the destruction of Manila Bay are the national government and its corporate clients performing anti-environment and anti-people businesses along the bay," Hicap said.

He said the government is at fault not just for allowing factories and commercial establishments to discharge toxic wastes in Pasig River and Manila Bay, but also for its baywide reclamation projects.

The militant group said about 20,000 hectares of Manila Bay waters have been subjected to reclamation to pave way for the construction of special economic zones in Bataan and Cavite, the commercial spaces presently occupied by Manila Film Center, the GSIS Building in Pasay City, the Cultural Center of the Philippines and Folk Arts Theater in Manila, and the SM Mall of Asia and other commercial companies in Pasay City.

Pamalakaya said Secretary Atienza has given the state-owned Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (Pagcor) the environmental clearance certificate to develop the 90-hectare reclaimed casino and resort complex in Manila Bay that will begin in the third quarter of the year.

Pagcor said companies with approved proposals must invest at least US$1 billion for their projects, with initial $400 million investments in the first two years

On top of the $15 billion casino project to be constructed along Manila Bay, Pamalakaya said Secretary Atienza had granted ECC to the ambitious Cavite Coastal Road Project II that would involve reclamation of more than 8,000 hectares of coastal waters along Manila Bay from Bacoor to Cavite City.

Reports said aside from coastal road that would link Manila to Cavite, an international seaport will be constructed and will be annexed to the revive Sangley Point, a former US military base.

Pamalakaya said close to 3 million coastal people in Metro Manila and Cavite are still dependent on fishing as principal source of livelihood, and any move to transform or convert Manila Bay for other purposes like the $15-billion casino project and the Cavite Phase II Coastal Road project will have a killing impact on the livelihood of small fishermen, aside from the fact that they would be demolished from their communities, once construction of support structures and establishments begins.

“From 1992 to 1995, the demolitions of coastal shanties became an everyday ordeal in Pasay Reclamation area. Houses were uprooted on almost day-to-day basis. Small and big time bribery to divide the communities were conducted to facilitate the demolition of coastal communities," Pamalakaya said.

The setting up of casino and resorts, including SM’sMall of Asia was all in the master plan of the government known as Manila Bay Master Development Plan that officially started during the time of President Ramos and projected to end between 2020 and 2025.

Hicap recalled that 3,500 small fisherfolk in the Pasay Reclamation Area, and another 3,000 coastal and urban poor families along the coastal shores of Parañaque, were evicted by the government of former President Ramos to pave way for the construction of the proposed casino that would make the Philippines the Las Vegas of Asia

The militant group said 60 percent of pollution entering Manila Bay comes through the Pasig River, and 80 percent of the pollution comes from industries and commercial establishments situated along the country’s major river system in the National Capital Region. Another 15 percent of the pollution that gets into Manila Bay comes from Pampanga River, which the group said, is colonized by big and small polluting factories.

“The government is blaming overfishing as a major factor in the degradation of Manila Bay. That is a flimsy and ridiculous excuse. The massive privatization and conversion of public lands and coastal communities along the bay since the Marcos dictatorship up to present administration of President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is the principal reason why Manila Bay is under the Intensive Care Unit, and suffering from environmental comatose," Pamalakaya said. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/113985/Environment-chief-threatened-with-class-suit-over-Manila-Bay-reclamations)




this so-called urban poor people should just go back to their provinces, since they are small fishermen in the metro, what is the difference if they go back to their provinces and fish over there. Too many excuses about them being poor, no progress, we will all be stuck in the bottom because of these detractors.

[mwg12a]

I think there are really very small population of fishermen in that area. There are other source of livelihood they can teach these fishermen which is probably aren't making much money considering the higher cost of living in bigger cities like Manila comparing to provinces. Why is it really a big deal? I didn't even know that there are really good fresh fish you can really catch in Manila bay since it's poluted anyway. I seriously doubt that there are 3 million fishermen in those area. Nevermind about the gambling establishment plans for that area but that coastal road is a much needed development.

[lochinvar]

Where do we get the fishes taken from Navotas Fishport?

[mwg12a]

Thats why I didn't know that there are fishes there, if there is, those fishes has been exposed to contaminated water, but, that just my opinion, it doesn't mean it's a fact...

[seven07]

i had read this morning in a newspaper that governor maliksi had signed a memorandum that will demolished all the illegal infrastructures in whole cavite shoreline, and it will start this august 26.

[mygz14]

i had read this morning in a newspaper that governor maliksi had signed a memorandum that will demolished all the illegal infrastructures in whole cavite shoreline, and it will start this august 26.

Cavite task force to demolish illegal fish pens, cages

TRECE MARTIRES CITY -- Cavite Gov. Ayong Maliksi issued Executive Order No. 114 creating an inter-agency task force to dismantle beginning Aug. 26 more than 200 illegal structures for the culture of fish and other fishery products near the shores and in the coastal waters of the province.

The illegal structures have obstructed the water flow and have caused pollution in Manila Bay, Governor Maliksi said.

In 2005, Maliksi issued Executive Order No. 69 requiring all mayors to refrain from renewing or issuing permits for the construction of fish pens or cages. He was heeding the clamor of the organizations of fishermen who are adversely affected by the proliferation of illegal aquaculture operators.

"The rapid increase in the number of illegal aquaculture operators in the province is very alarming, considering that based on the survey we conducted, 70 percent of them are outsiders. Our local fishers are the ones suffering. Their catch has dwindled and no longer enough to give them sufficient income," Maliksi said.

Engineer Rolinio Pozas, head of the Provincial Environment and Natural Resources Office, said that before conducting the scheduled dismantling, his personnel conducted an intensive survey of the areas concerned and a series of consultations with the affected parties.

"After taking all the necessary legal steps, we have already informed all illegal aquaculture operators of the scheduled dismantling so that they will be prepared for it," he said. Hopefully, this would avert resistance, he also said. (Mandy Francisco)

SOURCE: Manila Bulletin (http://www.mb.com.ph/PROV20080817132768.html)

[bartstrife99]

I think this is the preparation for the upcoming Manila Bay Tourism Project... and for the Opening of Man-Cav Coastal Road upon completion.

[spearhead]

P_tang inang mga aktibistang 'yan! Puro reklamo sa kahirapan ng bansa. Ngayong me ginagawa ang pamahalaan para masolusyonan ang kahirapan, bara naman sila ng bara! Ayaw nilang magalaw ang mga squatter sa reclamation at coastal road dahil gusto nilang gan'on na lang sila lagi, walang asenso para may maidahilan pa sila sa mga protesta nila! Mga gago!!!:bash:

I know. PAlibahasa kasi mga squatters sila sa tabing dagat, at marami sa kanila ang hindi ganun ka edukado. Di nila narerealized na best interest parin ng bansa natin ang mga infrastructure developments sa cavite ma-reclamation man o hindi, ikabubuti ito sa mga mahihirap na pinoy. Kasi in the long run, pagmarami na tayong nakolektang revenues, sila din ang makikinabang nito, better public services, housing, food supplies, and job creation. Mga engot talaga, ang kakapal ng mukha nila. It's not even their best interest to whine when they are the ones who are actually at the wrong position in the first place.

Anyway, about the airport plans, i hope matuloy na ito pero mukhang matagal pa, lalo na't di pa natatapos yung DMIA.

[ericlucky290]

Sangley dreaming (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20080828-157219/Sangley-dreaming)
By Erika Sauler
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:22:00 08/28/2008


Casinos, hospitals, hotels, call center offices and even a bowling alley, but no nightclubs, please.

A reemergence of recreational establishments and job opportunities is what former Sen. Ramon Revilla, chair of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA), sees when a P200-billion international logistics hub rises in the former US naval base at Sangley Point in Cavite City.

“This is a longtime dream for Caviteños,” Revilla, now 81, said in an interview with the Inquirer at his house in Bacoor town in Cavite.

The Sangley Point Development Project can lead to various business establishments, he said, “but not the nightclubs that proliferated in the city before.”

Used by the American military since 1898 as a ship repair facility and berthing area before turning it over to the Armed Forces of the Philippines in 1971, Sangley Point is to be developed with three main components:

A 2,000-hectare reclamation project for export processing zones, industrial, commercial, military, institutional and tourism facilities.

An international seaport and container terminal for transporting passengers, cargoes and other finished products to industrial estates in Southern Luzon, and for serving the needs of an international logistics hub.

A modern international airport that will decongest the Ninoy Aquino International Airport and make international travel in Cavite more accessible.

“Once completed, it is expected to be Asia’s envy, rivaling existing hubs in Hong Kong and Singapore,” the actor-turned-politician said in a press statement.

Foreign investors

“The Sangley Point project will directly and laterally increase local and foreign investments, international trade, job opportunities and tourism related activities,” he said. “This will also be our answer to complaints constantly raised by foreign investors that we lack the infrastructure required to make their investments viable.”

A P16.7-million funding was allocated by the PRA to hire a consultancy firm that will determine the technical, economic and financial viability, social acceptability and environmental integrity of the Sangley Point project.

The winning bidder has six months to one year to complete a master plan before the project is bid out to contractors.

As a build-operate-transfer scheme, Revilla said the government would not spend a single centavo because foreign investors would shoulder the cost.

Already, the China Ocean Shipping (Group) Co. has expressed intention to invest in the container port but found Sangley Point too small. “That can be resolved by the reclamation component,” Revilla said.

“Practically, the national government and, firstly, the people of Cavite” will benefit from the project, he said. “Almost everyone in Cavite will have a job.”

Revilla recalled that when he was young, Cavite City was “progressive and with lots of entertainment establishments.” But he said the growth declined “when the Americans left.”

He admitted that the Sangley Point project was a birthday gift from Ms Arroyo, although he did not originally propose it.

“On my (80th) birthday, it suddenly came to my mind to ask the President if she can issue an executive order for the conversion of Sangley Point. And she said yes. This has been a long-standing proposal and she said it may finally be realized under my leadership,” Revilla said.

Three months later, the President signed Executive Order No. 629 directing the PRA to develop Sangley Point into an international logistics hub.

Revilla, however, said he had not talked personally with foreign investors, but “the President (Macapagal-Arroyo) talks to them.”

A distinct but complementing infrastructure project is the extension of the R-1 Expressway or Manila-Cavite Coastal Road which would also entail reclaiming land from Bacoor to Kawit coastal areas. It is now 40 percent complete.

‘Political connection’

A militant group, the Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas, earlier issued a statement denouncing the Revilla family’s “political connection” and the widespread reclamation activities along Cavite’s coastal areas which, it said, would affect the livelihood of 26,000 fishing families.

Revilla, however, said the PRA was not responsible for families that would be displaced by its projects. He said the government did not pursue projects without taking the families’ livelihood into consideration.

“As a matter of fact, UEM-Mara [Phil. Corp.] and [the Department of Public Works and Highways] have been paying these people. If [the structure] is under water, that is UEM-Mara’s responsibility while [the DPWH] takes care of those inland. Practically, the PRA is not concerned with them,” Revilla said.

The Pamalakaya allegation puzzled him. “I even help these people as they are my constituents and I have the heart to help. When they are arrested for illegal parking in Makati (where PRA office is located), I’m the one who fixes for them. I entertain them in the conference room and give them merienda. I refer them to UEM-Mara or Public Works so they can be paid,” Revilla said in Filipino.

‘Grossly unfair’

“[Pamalakaya’s] statement is grossly unfair. Bong (his senator son) has nothing to do with R-1 while Strike (another son and Bacoor Mayor) is doing all he can for those who will be affected by the road extension. I have been assured by the proponent, UEM-Mara, that all those affected will be justly compensated,” Revilla said.

In a statement published on the Senate website, however, Bong Revilla said he would conduct an inquiry to determine a suitable relocation site for affected families and to find out if UEM-Mara still has the financial capabilities to finish the R-1 extension project.

“If they can not finish the project, it would be better that the government takes over. The delayed completion of the project aggravates the livelihood of our fisher folks,” Bong said.

Due to complaints that some families had not been paid in full by the DPWH, Strike Revilla said that the Bacoor government had offered to take care of the right-of-way payments.

The senior Revilla said the problem is that “the ranks of genuine claimants are padded by unscrupulous persons out to make a fast buck. This makes the payment process more tedious as the agencies involved have to weed (out) the genuine from the false claims.”

In a recent PRA board meeting, Revilla said he recommended Cavite Gov. Ayong Maliksi to be included as member of the executive committee for the development of Sangley Point.

The body is co-chaired by Revilla and Cavite City Mayor Bernardo Paredes, who was recently appointed head of the bids and awards committee for the Sangley Point project.

[RonnieR]

Sangley dreaming (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20080828-157219/Sangley-dreaming)
By Erika Sauler
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:22:00 08/28/2008


Casinos, hospitals, hotels, call center offices and even a bowling alley, but no nightclubs, please.

A reemergence of recreational establishments and job opportunities is what former Sen. Ramon Revilla, chair of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA), sees when a P200-billion or US$4.4B international logistics hub rises in the former US naval base at Sangley Point in Cavite City.

“This is a longtime dream for Caviteños,” Revilla, now 81, said in an interview with the Inquirer at his house in Bacoor town in Cavite.

The Sangley Point Development Project can lead to various business establishments, he said, “but not the nightclubs that proliferated in the city before.”

Used by the American military since 1898 as a ship repair facility and berthing area before turning it over to the Armed Forces of the Philippines in 1971, Sangley Point is to be developed with three main components:

A 2,000-hectare reclamation project for export processing zones, industrial, commercial, military, institutional and tourism facilities.

An international seaport and container terminal for transporting passengers, cargoes and other finished products to industrial estates in Southern Luzon, and for serving the needs of an international logistics hub.

A modern international airport that will decongest the Ninoy Aquino International Airport and make international travel in Cavite more accessible.

“Once completed, it is expected to be Asia’s envy, rivaling existing hubs in Hong Kong and Singapore,” the actor-turned-politician said in a press statement.



No quote on dates but truly, an impressive project.

What's wrong with nightclubs? His idea of nightclubs maybe different....they should allow clubs, bars, or just change of terminology.... don't really understand the old former Senator.

[diz]

Bong is 81? :eek:

[RonnieR]

Bong is 81? :eek:
:lol: I was referring to his father...this is his pet project...

[mygz14]

No quote on dates but truly, an impressive project.

What's wrong with nightclubs? His idea of nightclubs maybe different....they should allow clubs, bars, or just change of terminology.... don't really understand the old former Senator.

I also wouldn't want Cavite City to have Night Clubs but Bars and Clubs similar to Embassy and White Avenue would be great. The present night clubs in the city are really not good.

[Waldenstrom]

The night clubs Revilla was referring to were the club with G.R.O./beer garden type of clubs. :) If dance clubs like embassy, ok yan.

[Shazzam]

^^ Correct, those were the girly bars we had in Cavite City during the time when the Americans were still in Sangley Point, same as those in Olongapo City, though on a smaller scale. Some of these bars continued operation when the Phil. Navy and Air Force took over Sangley Point, but continued to deteriorate until now. For sure, if this proposed Project pushes thru, it will be a great boost for the economy of Cavite City in particular.

[bartstrife99]

Sa ngayun maraming pa ring mga club at malapit pa mismo sa City Hall ng cavite!:ohno: maraming dumadayong mga taga labas dyan para mag pasarap kaya dapat talaga tanggalin na yan ehh dadame mag kaka aids dito! lalo na sa Carinosa! nakaka akit yung tahong niya! :lol:

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Its true that cavite city is a prosperous city and the #1 city in cavite when americans are still stayin that time. maraming artista ang dumadayo at nag shoshooting sa city, tatay ko pa ang driver ni Nida Blanca and my Lola is working inside the US base. napaka linis daw ng Cavite noon lalo ang tabing dagat ehh ngayun TAE beach na ehh! buti na alng na alis na yung mga illegal fish pen kaso dumame naman yung squter sa tabi ng dagat! :bash:

[RonnieR]

Sa ngayun maraming pa ring mga club at malapit pa mismo sa City Hall ng cavite!:ohno: maraming dumadayong mga taga labas dyan para mag pasarap kaya dapat talaga tanggalin na yan ehh dadame mag kaka aids dito! lalo na sa Carinosa! nakaka akit yung tahong niya! :lol:



:lol: nagpupunta ka dun no? :lol: OT

[spearhead]

I'm still wondering how big or small is the planned international airport there.

[mygz14]

I just hope that these development don't affect the legal residents near the area for I am one them.:):)

[bartstrife99]

:lol: nagpupunta ka dun no? :lol: OT

Di pow napasama lang sa mga kasama! at sabi ng Banana ko :banana:

[mygz14]

These night bars are still very rampant until now. I wish they were removed and replaced with better ones.

[bartstrife99]

These night bars are still very rampant until now. I wish they were removed and replaced with better ones.

replaced what? replaced a better babes dancing around you! and you're banana cant wait to say' :banana::banana::banana:

[spearhead]

I just hope that these development don't affect the legal residents near the area for I am one them.:):)

Kung kailangan kayong i-moved, dapat bilhin ng gobyerno yung house & lot nyo based on the real estate market and some xtra money for your moving expenses as well. Also they should give you 1 year notice. :)

[mygz14]

replaced what? replaced a better babes dancing around you! and you're banana cant wait to say' :banana::banana::banana:

Yup better ones and better babes. Hahaha :banana::banana:

Kung kailangan kayong i-moved, dapat bilhin ng gobyerno yung house & lot nyo based on the real estate market and some xtra money for your moving expenses as well. Also they should give you 1 year notice. :)

Yup, I would move if I have to. I'm not like those people along the shorelines who claim to be legitimate owners of the land where their homes stand and yet they demand big time from the government when it comes to compensation. Also, I'm sure they'll cry for Human Rights but what about the rights of the real owners of the land? Anyway, I recall that the constitution provides that the government can demolish properties for as long as just compensation is provided.

[mygz14]

Sangley dreaming (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20080828-157219/Sangley-dreaming)
By Erika Sauler
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:22:00 08/28/2008


Casinos, hospitals, hotels, call center offices and even a bowling alley, but no nightclubs, please.

A reemergence of recreational establishments and job opportunities is what former Sen. Ramon Revilla, chair of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA), sees when a P200-billion international logistics hub rises in the former US naval base at Sangley Point in Cavite City.

“This is a longtime dream for Caviteños,” Revilla, now 81, said in an interview with the Inquirer at his house in Bacoor town in Cavite.

The Sangley Point Development Project can lead to various business establishments, he said, “but not the nightclubs that proliferated in the city before.”

Used by the American military since 1898 as a ship repair facility and berthing area before turning it over to the Armed Forces of the Philippines in 1971, Sangley Point is to be developed with three main components:

A 2,000-hectare reclamation project for export processing zones, industrial, commercial, military, institutional and tourism facilities.

An international seaport and container terminal for transporting passengers, cargoes and other finished products to industrial estates in Southern Luzon, and for serving the needs of an international logistics hub.

A modern international airport that will decongest the Ninoy Aquino International Airport and make international travel in Cavite more accessible.

“Once completed, it is expected to be Asia’s envy, rivaling existing hubs in Hong Kong and Singapore,” the actor-turned-politician said in a press statement.

Foreign investors

“The Sangley Point project will directly and laterally increase local and foreign investments, international trade, job opportunities and tourism related activities,” he said. “This will also be our answer to complaints constantly raised by foreign investors that we lack the infrastructure required to make their investments viable.”

A P16.7-million funding was allocated by the PRA to hire a consultancy firm that will determine the technical, economic and financial viability, social acceptability and environmental integrity of the Sangley Point project.

The winning bidder has six months to one year to complete a master plan before the project is bid out to contractors.

As a build-operate-transfer scheme, Revilla said the government would not spend a single centavo because foreign investors would shoulder the cost.

Already, the China Ocean Shipping (Group) Co. has expressed intention to invest in the container port but found Sangley Point too small. “That can be resolved by the reclamation component,” Revilla said.

“Practically, the national government and, firstly, the people of Cavite” will benefit from the project, he said. “Almost everyone in Cavite will have a job.”

Revilla recalled that when he was young, Cavite City was “progressive and with lots of entertainment establishments.” But he said the growth declined “when the Americans left.”

He admitted that the Sangley Point project was a birthday gift from Ms Arroyo, although he did not originally propose it.

“On my (80th) birthday, it suddenly came to my mind to ask the President if she can issue an executive order for the conversion of Sangley Point. And she said yes. This has been a long-standing proposal and she said it may finally be realized under my leadership,” Revilla said.

Three months later, the President signed Executive Order No. 629 directing the PRA to develop Sangley Point into an international logistics hub.

Revilla, however, said he had not talked personally with foreign investors, but “the President (Macapagal-Arroyo) talks to them.”

A distinct but complementing infrastructure project is the extension of the R-1 Expressway or Manila-Cavite Coastal Road which would also entail reclaiming land from Bacoor to Kawit coastal areas. It is now 40 percent complete.

‘Political connection’

A militant group, the Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas, earlier issued a statement denouncing the Revilla family’s “political connection” and the widespread reclamation activities along Cavite’s coastal areas which, it said, would affect the livelihood of 26,000 fishing families.

Revilla, however, said the PRA was not responsible for families that would be displaced by its projects. He said the government did not pursue projects without taking the families’ livelihood into consideration.

“As a matter of fact, UEM-Mara [Phil. Corp.] and [the Department of Public Works and Highways] have been paying these people. If [the structure] is under water, that is UEM-Mara’s responsibility while [the DPWH] takes care of those inland. Practically, the PRA is not concerned with them,” Revilla said.

The Pamalakaya allegation puzzled him. “I even help these people as they are my constituents and I have the heart to help. When they are arrested for illegal parking in Makati (where PRA office is located), I’m the one who fixes for them. I entertain them in the conference room and give them merienda. I refer them to UEM-Mara or Public Works so they can be paid,” Revilla said in Filipino.

‘Grossly unfair’

“[Pamalakaya’s] statement is grossly unfair. Bong (his senator son) has nothing to do with R-1 while Strike (another son and Bacoor Mayor) is doing all he can for those who will be affected by the road extension. I have been assured by the proponent, UEM-Mara, that all those affected will be justly compensated,” Revilla said.

In a statement published on the Senate website, however, Bong Revilla said he would conduct an inquiry to determine a suitable relocation site for affected families and to find out if UEM-Mara still has the financial capabilities to finish the R-1 extension project.

“If they can not finish the project, it would be better that the government takes over. The delayed completion of the project aggravates the livelihood of our fisher folks,” Bong said.

Due to complaints that some families had not been paid in full by the DPWH, Strike Revilla said that the Bacoor government had offered to take care of the right-of-way payments.

The senior Revilla said the problem is that “the ranks of genuine claimants are padded by unscrupulous persons out to make a fast buck. This makes the payment process more tedious as the agencies involved have to weed (out) the genuine from the false claims.”

In a recent PRA board meeting, Revilla said he recommended Cavite Gov. Ayong Maliksi to be included as member of the executive committee for the development of Sangley Point.

The body is co-chaired by Revilla and Cavite City Mayor Bernardo Paredes, who was recently appointed head of the bids and awards committee for the Sangley Point project.

How I wish that the project shall commence any time soon. I'd gladly render my services to the city if needed for this project to start. Hehehe :banana::banana:

[bartstrife99]

How I wish that the project shall commence any time soon. I'd gladly render my services to the city if needed for this project to start. Hehehe :banana::banana:

me too. :cheers:

[Lucentino]

^^Hmmm quite interesting... what kind of service can you extend guys?

If this project pushes through, where will the Military go?

[mygz14]

^^Hmmm quite interesting... what kind of service can you extend guys?

If this project pushes through, where will the Military go?

Hahaha. Professional services on my end. Serve for the project to push through.

I believe the military will still be at Sangley Point and Fort San Felipe.

[Lucentino]

^^We will give our moral support and prayers! :)

[spearhead]

^^Hmmm quite interesting... what kind of service can you extend guys?

If this project pushes through, where will the Military go?

The original plan is to have a mixed military-commercial use in the said project. Early this year pa yang plano... :)

[mr.suroy]

eh dapat napakalaking project nito.. ang panget naman kung bara bara na lang pagpapatayo ng international airport. may military pa naman..

ang tanong ko lang, di pa malapit lang ang sangley sa naia? di kaya delikado na magkalapit ung airspace ng dalawang airport? bakit di na lang i develop yung sa subic muna, tapos pag saturated na rin un, saka na lang magtayo ng bago?

[pi_malejana]

^^ marami namang areas ang magkakalapit ang airports, take NYC for example.. La Guardia, Newak and JFK halos magkakadikit..:)

[bartstrife99]

eh dapat napakalaking project nito.. ang panget naman kung bara bara na lang pagpapatayo ng international airport. may military pa naman..

ang tanong ko lang, di pa malapit lang ang sangley sa naia? di kaya delikado na magkalapit ung airspace ng dalawang airport? bakit di na lang i develop yung sa subic muna, tapos pag saturated na rin un, saka na lang magtayo ng bago?

isa sa mga point dito eh ang cavite province is considered highly industrialized province so need po talaga ng international airport for export! mas malapit naman siguro ang cavite city kesa sa NAIA! :bash:

[mygz14]

isa sa mga point dito eh ang cavite province is considered highly industrialized province so need po talaga ng international airport for export! mas malapit naman siguro ang cavite city kesa sa NAIA! :bash:

Yeah. Indeed. Also, an Airport in Cavite City can serve the nearby provinces thus decongesting cargo traffic and of course, passenger traffic at NAIA.

[Juan Pilgrim]

I still do not understand why this project of building an International Airport in the Old Sangley Point necessary.
Is it because NAIA is too congested or overloaded with flights?
Is it because NAIA will be closed soon?
Is it the distance or proximity to Cavite, Laguna and Batangas?

I am not trying to bash this project, I just want to understand the rationale.
Wala ho sanang magagalit, nagtatanong lang. PEACE and GOODWILL:)

:horse:
JP

[mwg12a]

I think the airport might have been mostly for cargo purposes. But who knows?? It's hard to think that NAIA airport would totally stop it's operation in only 3 or 4 years time to give way for DMIA, not with all these money spent on NAIA and the skyway and roads leading to NAIA T3. I've got a feeling that Sangley airport would have some international passengers just like in Subic but it's more for cargo operations. If that happens, it will just help decongest NAIA since we would have DMIA and possibly Sangley airport to ease out these decongestions. So, to answer one of your questions, I think yes to NAIA being congested with traffic and has not enough room for future expansion.

[Juan Pilgrim]

^^thanks sa iyong pagliwanag.

:horse:

JP

[mr.suroy]

kung mabuo man tong airport sa sangley point, pede bang iextend ung lrt 1 hanggang dito? san part ba ng cavite ang sangley? dun ba mismo sa pahabang part ng cavite city?

[mygz14]

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/jibrael865/cavite1.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/jibrael865/cavite2.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/jibrael865/cavite3.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/jibrael865/cavite4.jpg
http://timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=4099.0

^^

[mr.suroy]

^^ are those warships of the philippine navy?

parang ang hirap gumawa ng way palabas ng sangley point, tulad ng pagtatayo ng highway o ng railway. siguro pede sa baybayin..

salamat sa pictures hehe.. sa ordinaryong mapa ko lang kasi nakikita yung pahabang part ng cavite city. puro kabahayan ba yang nasa south ng runway?

napansin ko, parang may pagkakahalintulad yung itsura ng map ng tangos ng cavite sa hakodate, hokkaido, japan.

[mygz14]

^^ are those warships of the philippine navy?

parang ang hirap gumawa ng way palabas ng sangley point, tulad ng pagtatayo ng highway o ng railway. siguro pede sa baybayin..

salamat sa pictures hehe.. sa ordinaryong mapa ko lang kasi nakikita yung pahabang part ng cavite city. puro kabahayan ba yang nasa south ng runway?

napansin ko, parang may pagkakahalintulad yung itsura ng map ng tangos ng cavite sa hakodate, hokkaido, japan.

Yup. Warships of the Philippine Navy. Also, I would also suggest that Cavite City forge Sisterhood with cities that have been relevant to our history. We already have San Diego, California for USA. Maybe we should also have one from Spain, Japan, China and Britain.

[mygz14]

PGMA’s 3-day HK working visit worth it: US$2-B investment portfolio in bag

HONG KONG (via PLDT) – "It was all worth it."

She not only pressed flesh with overseas Filipino workers in Hong Kong whose concerns she listened to and solved right in her hotel suite on the very first night following her arrival here Sunday (March 30).

She was not only the very first speaker at the much-awaited 11th Credit Suisse’ Asian Investment Conference (AIC) and then had a tea-time meeting with fund managers in portfolio investments Monday (March 31).

On the same day, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo also clinched for the Philippines the latest addition to the Billion-Dollar Club of foreign investment locators – the HK-based Shimao Property Holdings which may yet bring first-world development to the eastern seaboard of the Visayas, particularly in Eastern Samar.

This, aside from the 42-hectare property development that Shimao plans to set up in Fort Bonifacio.

“It was all worth it,” the President enthused after announcing the US$2-billion investment to the Philippine media delegation over coffee and cocktails at the presidential suite of the Grand Hyatt Hotel last night (Monday, March 31).

But that is not all. The President also had a business meeting this morning (Tuesday, April 1) with the Hopewell Group whose chairman of the board paid a courtesy call on the Chief Executive at her hotel suite before flying back to Manila at 6 p.m. this evening.

The President received Mr. Gordon Ying Sheung Wu, chairman of the board of Hopewell Holdings which had earlier completed three power-station infrastructure projects in the Philippines, including the 2x367.5 megawatt or 735-mw Pagbilao power station in Quezon which is the Philippines’ largest coal-fired power plant.

The Hopewell group is hoping to develop an area around Sangley Point in Cavite.

And so, as she flies back to Manila after her brief working stay in this prosperous Chinese peninsula, President Arroyo has under her sleeve not only the soon-to-rise projects of the Shimao Group, and that of the Hopewell Group, plus possible investments from the fund managers she had met through Credit Suisse.

She will also be flying back home with a heart-warming consolidated Statement of Support from five OFW groups here that recognize the “single-mindedness of the President (Arroyo) in focusing on the economy.”

The statement of support echoes the President’s belief that political noise need not interfere with the administration’s focus on alleviating the lives of Filipinos.

“The economic facts and figures are indisputable – notwithstanding the unceasing political noise, the country’s economy grew (by) unprecedented levels, largely as a result of the single-mindedness of the President in focusing on the economy.

“By and large, the overwhelming majority of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) all over the world – except for the noisy few that are influenced by extremist and oppositionist groups – are supportive of the programs and initiatives of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in bringing our country to the threshold of development and progress,” the OFW statement said.

The supportive OFWs admitted being bothered by the “stunts of vested political interests who either could not wait for the next elections or are bent on destabilizing our democratic institutions.”

“We are bothered and concerned as much as our families and loved ones are in the country, mainly because the political disturbances caused by these groups are undermining the larger interests of our country and people,” they said.

For the supportive Filipino community in Hong Kong whom she had dubbed as “precious” when she treated them to a cocktail reception at the Grand Hyatt Hotel Sunday evening (March 30), the President has ordered the Overseas Workers Welfare Administration (OWWA) to work with the HK government for the possible return of the pre-2003 monthly minimum salary of HK$3,670 for foreign domestic helpers.

released 4/1/2008
Source: Office of the President
(http://www.op.gov.ph/news.asp?newsid=20483)

[spearhead]

eh dapat napakalaking project nito.. ang panget naman kung bara bara na lang pagpapatayo ng international airport. may military pa naman..

ang tanong ko lang, di pa malapit lang ang sangley sa naia? di kaya delikado na magkalapit ung airspace ng dalawang airport? bakit di na lang i develop yung sa subic muna, tapos pag saturated na rin un, saka na lang magtayo ng bago?

dapat masmalaki sa naia ang gawing intl airport dyan para maisara na natin ang naia, maganda pa namang patayuan ng mga bagong gusali sa naia at freeways....

[spearhead]

^^ are those warships of the philippine navy?

parang ang hirap gumawa ng way palabas ng sangley point, tulad ng pagtatayo ng highway o ng railway. siguro pede sa baybayin..

salamat sa pictures hehe.. sa ordinaryong mapa ko lang kasi nakikita yung pahabang part ng cavite city. puro kabahayan ba yang nasa south ng runway?

napansin ko, parang may pagkakahalintulad yung itsura ng map ng tangos ng cavite sa hakodate, hokkaido, japan.

Take a second look at this previous reposted proposals:

planned highways, rail system, airport, naval base and bridges:

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v151/20/96/645611536/n645611536_447464_9664.jpg


Both Cosco, the Sangley Naval Base, and the added proposal of new Manila Int'l Airport are shown below.

http://a401.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/98/l_06316966fa060cd0d321fb5763a7f708.jpg

:)

[manila_eye]

why in sangley? its just few kilometers from NAIA... besides we are not NY or tokyo which has very busy airport. NAIA 3 can hadle that aside from the centennial airport. meron pang subic and clark sa north just few miles from manila. this project lacks proper study or has been well studied by the chinese for future GOD knows what.

i highly doubt the intention of this china-owned firm considering their reputation as weapon smugglers.

[diz]

^^ don't challenge possible blessings.

[mr.suroy]

malapit naman sa imposible yun mga renditions nung mga daan..

bypassed talaga ang corregidor dun sa bataan-cavite bridge? bakit may tunnel sa ilalim ng laguna bay? wah..

[Waldenstrom]

why in sangley? its just few kilometers from NAIA... besides we are not NY or tokyo which has very busy airport. NAIA 3 can hadle that aside from the centennial airport. meron pang subic and clark sa north just few miles from manila. this project lacks proper study or has been well studied by the chinese for future GOD knows what.

i highly doubt the intention of this china-owned firm considering their reputation as weapon smugglers.
this is obviously a preparation for the future. ;)

[spearhead]

why in sangley? its just few kilometers from NAIA... besides we are not NY or tokyo which has very busy airport. NAIA 3 can hadle that aside from the centennial airport. meron pang subic and clark sa north just few miles from manila. this project lacks proper study or has been well studied by the chinese for future GOD knows what.

i highly doubt the intention of this china-owned firm considering their reputation as weapon smugglers.

Ideally daw kasi according sa planong yan (reposted photos), before sila gumawa ng engrandeng int'l airport sa sangley, dapat matapos muna yung DMIA. Then once na matapos na yung sa sangley, isasara na ang buong naia, and convert it into another business district like makati or taguig's BGC. Meanwhile, the recent reported plans of building a small scale int'l airport at sangley maybe the 1st step for the future's possible expansion to coincide with that previous reported ambitious infrastructure project at sangley.

^^ don't challenge possible blessings.

Yeahman! :)

malapit naman sa imposible yun mga renditions nung mga daan..

bypassed talaga ang corregidor dun sa bataan-cavite bridge? bakit may tunnel sa ilalim ng laguna bay? wah..

Remember, early 90's pa yang plano, very ambitious pa talaga sila nun.

Pero sa tingin ko kaya di rin nabenta yang 15 yr old plans dahil medyo di practical ang mga plano tulad ng mga tunnels nayan. Palpak yung nagdesign. But atleast, kung sino man yung mga involve sa nagplano nyan, their dreams may partly become true in the future nga lang....

BTW, the photos ay gawa lang ng coforumer natin according lang sa kanyang huling naalala so it is not the exact drawings. If you can only go back to page 5.

this is obviously a preparation for the future. ;)

It maybe the exact term. :okay:

[manila_eye]

I mean we have the Clark Airbase which has multiple parallel runways and its airport is expandable. No need to reclaim land which costs billions.

I'm now looking at economic standpoint. I don't know the details of who will own that proposed Sangley Airport. I feel that the government should own and run such facility.

[bartstrife99]

Alam nyo po ba na may Old existing railway dito sa cavite city noon at kaya nga nag karoon ng kalye tren dito sa cavite city! dating #1 City in the province of Cavite!

Old existing railway

from Manila - Bacoor- Kawit - Noveleta - Cavite City!

[bartstrife99]

Alam nyo po ba na may Old existing railway dito sa cavite city noon at kaya nga nag karoon ng kalye tren dito sa cavite city! dating #1 City in the province of Cavite!

Old existing railway

from Manila - Bacoor- Kawit - Noveleta - Cavite City!

[manila_eye]

Alam nyo po ba na may Old existing railway dito sa cavite city noon at kaya nga nag karoon ng kalye tren dito sa cavite city! dating #1 City in the province of Cavite!

Old existing railway

from Manila - Bacoor- Kawit - Noveleta - Cavite City!

Meron din sa GMA, Cavite papuntang Alabang and South... Medyo maganda ang railway system natin dati sayang at hindi lang naalagaan.

[mygz14]

Alam nyo po ba na may Old existing railway dito sa cavite city noon at kaya nga nag karoon ng kalye tren dito sa cavite city! dating #1 City in the province of Cavite!

Old existing railway

from Manila - Bacoor- Kawit - Noveleta - Cavite City!

Yeah. Before an International Airport was built in Manila, the Pan Am Terminal in Cavite used to be the Philippine's Premiere Gateway. A railway links Cavite to Manila so as to ease travel.

[Dreamtofly]

It's a great plan to divert International Airport from bustling City.

I hope that proper infra should be in place. Like an express train and a modern train station.

[bartstrife99]

Thanks for Additional Info and sorry for double posting lag kasi '_'

[niknok]

the old railways of cavite even reached naic. That's why there is daang bakal

[boroyski]

Talaga ang mga tao na ito, ayaw ba nila ng development?:ohno:

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/122976/Pamalakaya-to-Bong-Revilla-Stop-your-fathers-Sangley-dream

Pamalakaya to Bong Revilla: 'Stop your father’s Sangley dream'09/25/2008 | 09:57 PM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - The Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas (Pamalakaya) is objecting to the reclamation of coastal areas along Manila Bay to give way to the development of Sangley Point in Cavite City.

The activist fisherfolk alliance on Thursday called on Sen. Ramon “Bong" Revilla Jr to convince his father Ramon Sr, a former senator and concurrent chair of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA), to scrap the project because it would affect fishermen in Cavite.

Revilla Sr wants to transform Sangley Point, a former US Naval Station, as an international logistics hub in Southern Tagalog region.

“Senator Bong Revilla, as chair of the Senate Committee on Public Works and Highways, must listen to the voice of the fisherfolk and the people in general who are affected by this across-the-bay reclamation project of his father to pave way for the transformation of Sangley Point into an international port harbor in the tradition of Hong Kong and Singapore," Pamalakaya national chair Fernando Hicap said in a statement.

Revilla Sr had talked about his dream to develop the Sangley Point as an international logistics hub where casinos, hospitals, call centers and recreational centers would be built.

But before construction could take place, the PRA must first reclaim coastal areas in Manila Bay, particularly in the coastal towns of Bacoor, Tanza, Noveleta, Kawit and Cavite City.

Hicap said the reclamation project would displace not less than 26,000 fishing families along the bay from Bacoor to Cavite City. He said the reclamation would also fast track the “death of Manila Bay" as a major fishing ground in the country.

Pamalakaya said Senator Revilla, as chairman of the powerful Senate Committee on Public Works and Highways, could intervene in favor of the collective interest of the people in Cavite.

Revilla Sr, a strong ally of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, said the P 200-billion Sangley Point Development Project can lead to various businesses and if completed could rival other major international ports in Asia like that in Singapore and Hong Kong. It is also seen to generate jobs to people of Cavite. - GMANews.TV

[pi_malejana]

^^ anu nga ba ang plano nila sa madi-displace na mga fishermen??

[RonnieR]

^^ Bakit pa binibigyan ng attention ng media yan? We want development! progress!

[pi_malejana]

^^ nagra-rally sila eh, yan ang gusto ng media...:D

pero kahit papaano may punto ang mga fishermen na ito...

[mygz14]

Talaga ang mga tao na ito, ayaw ba nila ng development?:ohno:

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/122976/Pamalakaya-to-Bong-Revilla-Stop-your-fathers-Sangley-dream

Pamalakaya to Bong Revilla: 'Stop your father’s Sangley dream'09/25/2008 | 09:57 PM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - The Pambansang Lakas ng Kilusang Mamamalakaya ng Pilipinas (Pamalakaya) is objecting to the reclamation of coastal areas along Manila Bay to give way to the development of Sangley Point in Cavite City.

The activist fisherfolk alliance on Thursday called on Sen. Ramon “Bong" Revilla Jr to convince his father Ramon Sr, a former senator and concurrent chair of the Philippine Reclamation Authority (PRA), to scrap the project because it would affect fishermen in Cavite.

Revilla Sr wants to transform Sangley Point, a former US Naval Station, as an international logistics hub in Southern Tagalog region.

“Senator Bong Revilla, as chair of the Senate Committee on Public Works and Highways, must listen to the voice of the fisherfolk and the people in general who are affected by this across-the-bay reclamation project of his father to pave way for the transformation of Sangley Point into an international port harbor in the tradition of Hong Kong and Singapore," Pamalakaya national chair Fernando Hicap said in a statement.

Revilla Sr had talked about his dream to develop the Sangley Point as an international logistics hub where casinos, hospitals, call centers and recreational centers would be built.

But before construction could take place, the PRA must first reclaim coastal areas in Manila Bay, particularly in the coastal towns of Bacoor, Tanza, Noveleta, Kawit and Cavite City.

Hicap said the reclamation project would displace not less than 26,000 fishing families along the bay from Bacoor to Cavite City. He said the reclamation would also fast track the “death of Manila Bay" as a major fishing ground in the country.

Pamalakaya said Senator Revilla, as chairman of the powerful Senate Committee on Public Works and Highways, could intervene in favor of the collective interest of the people in Cavite.

Revilla Sr, a strong ally of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, said the P 200-billion Sangley Point Development Project can lead to various businesses and if completed could rival other major international ports in Asia like that in Singapore and Hong Kong. It is also seen to generate jobs to people of Cavite. - GMANews.TV

And what's wrong with having an international airport in the tradition of Hong Kong and Singapore?

[yan.yan]

traffic is really bad going to that area.

[manila_eye]

^^ nagra-rally sila eh, yan ang gusto ng media...:D

pero kahit papaano may punto ang mga fishermen na ito...

i have to agree. mukha kasing walang plano para sa mga iyon.

wala ring daanan na matino papunta sa lugar na yun. aanhin mo ang engrandeng airport kung oras naman ang byahe papunta ng manila. the lrt 1 extension to cavite will never be enough. alangan naman dun pasakayin ang mga foreign guests. this type of development must be parallel with the transportation infrastructure and people who will be affected.

a development must be progressive and sensitive at the same time or else it will be just a tacky one.

[spearhead]

^^ Bakit pa binibigyan ng attention ng media yan? We want development! progress!

Tama!

^^ nagra-rally sila eh, yan ang gusto ng media...:D

pero kahit papaano may punto ang mga fishermen na ito...

May punto ngasila eh pero kung ilan sa kanila eh gumagamit ng dinamita na pampasbog para patayin ang mga isda at madamay ang mga corals sa manila bay, dapat lang sila sipain na talaga.... :lol:

And what's wrong with having an international airport in the tradition of Hong Kong and Singapore?

From japan to hong kong, maraming na-displaced na fishermen dun from their massive reclamation projects, so ur right, what's the big deal kung gumawa tayo similar projects samanila bay.... :)

[pinas4real]

Teka sinabi ba sa article na international airport ang itatayo... ang sabi international port harbor... para sa freight and container ships.... so ang kailangan is access roads and railroads para pagtransport ng mga goods

[FerrariLover]

The Revilla's don't have the Technical Expertise to these kinds of Projects.
If they will just rely on advisers, baka lang sa pansariling interes mapunta
ito. On the other hand, all the infrastructure should be put up first before
these ports/airports is approved/build, The nearby communities are surely
have employment, etc.

[mygz14]

traffic is really bad going to that area.

Well, true. But if we would like to be at Par with Singapore and Hong Kong, we know that we should built roads so that the International Port would be accessible primarily to those in the Calabarzon Region. Vehicular traffic in Singapore isn't bad. Even in Hong Kong although there are times where traffic is just bad.

[mygz14]

From japan to hong kong, maraming na-displaced na fishermen dun from their massive reclamation projects, so ur right, what's the big deal kung gumawa tayo similar projects samanila bay.... :)

Of course to compensate, we should ensure that these fishermen shall be humanely treated. But I myself may be displaced by this project, and yet, I don't mind relocating if it would make the lives of my fellow Cavitenos better.

[higen]

Cosco ups Sangley investment

By Max V. de Leon
Reporter

THE China Ocean Shipping Group Company (Cosco) has increased its committed investments for the company’s proposed logistics hub in Sangley Point, Cavite, to $4 billion to $5 billion from the original $3 billion.

Trade Secretary Peter Favila said Cosco’s management made the decision after the government officially made available to the company a big part of the naval station through the issuance of Executive Order 629 late last month.

EO 629 directs the Philippine Reclamation Authority to convert Sangley Point into an international logistics hub with modern seaport and airport through an enabling reclamation component.

Favila said the president and CEO of Cosco, Wei Jia Fu, will be coming back to Manila soon to finalize plans for the project.

“The Cosco CEO said he is willing to pump in $4 billion to $5 billion to convert Sangley Point to a modern port facility,” Favila told reporters Wednesday.

With the issuance of the EO, Favila said the national government has done its part to make the project happen and it is now up to the local government of Cavite to do its share.

At this time, Favila said it will still take some convincing for the province of Cavite to help Cosco speed up the process.

Favila said he was assured by Cosco officials that the part of the Sangley Point that is being used by the Philippines Navy will not be affected by the Cosco operations.

Earlier, Cosco announced it will pour in $3 billion to convert Sangley Point to its Southeast Asian logistics hub.

The Cosco CEO and his team personally informed President Arroyo of their plan when they visited the country in June.

Favila said he told Cosco officials then to look for a place where they can set up operations and he was informed that the Chinese have already chosen Sangley Point.

Before the Cosco officials came over, Favila said the company had quietly searched for prospective sites and found Sangley Point the most suitable, especially with its deep waters near the shore.

I cant say Im against China investing in RP but I would say that I trust South Korea way way better than China at the moment. My question here is, why Philippines not Vietnam? COSCO being a government owned company and all, does make one think if this expanssion has any other motives other than the economics stand point.

Im a bit uneasy about this, frankly speaking. A country/government who we had no previous clear diplomatic replationship other than the Spratly issue suddenly decided to invest billions of dollars with us. The same country/government who is not affraid to test the waters with us by settings up installations in a disputed area (Spratlys). Trying to see what our reaction will be...hmmm. An investment that will bring in their "experts" who work for COSCO, a government owned corporation, who are probably members of "the Party".
Its like inviting your neighbor inside your house to fix your poarch. The same neighbor who had been trying to tell you that your poarch should be his.

Buying made in China is one thing (dont even get me stared with "infant formula scandal"), inviting them over is quite another.

Anyone here read about Chinese Investments in Africa? Try reading, I cannot provide link at the moment but Im sure ya'alls can ask our freind google. :)

[pinas4real]

I cant say Im against China investing in RP but I would say that I trust South Korea way way better than China at the moment. My question here is, why Philippines not Vietnam? COSCO being a government owned company and all, does make one think if this expanssion has any other motives other than the economics stand point.

Im a bit uneasy about this, frankly speaking. A country/government who we had no previous clear diplomatic replationship other than the Spratly issue suddenly decided to invest billions of dollars with us. The same country/government who is not affraid to test the waters with us by settings up installations in a disputed area (Spratlys). Trying to see what our reaction will be...hmmm. An investment that will bring in their "experts" who work for COSCO, a government owned corporation, who are probably members of "the Party".
Its like inviting your neighbor inside your house to fix your poarch. The same neighbor who had been trying to tell you that your poarch should be his.

Buying made in China is one thing (dont even get me stared with "infant formula scandal"), inviting them over is quite another.

Anyone here read about Chinese Investments in Africa? Try reading, I cannot provide link at the moment but Im sure ya'alls can ask our freind google. :)

I dont think COSCO is interested on the Philippines anymore. So this special interest theory of China over the Philippines is nothing to be worry of.

[higen]

I dont think COSCO is interested on the Philippines anymore. So this special interest theory of China over the Philippines is nothing to be worry of.

coolness!!! been on Mars for quite a while...:nuts:

[winztotoy]

traffic is really bad going to that area.

I heard this comment several times. All I can say is: "sanay na kami". We have senators coming from Cavite and they PROMISED to help their fellow Cavitenyos. Well, we dont need wide roads, we just need PROMISES, it only takes 2 hrs going to makati anyway... This coming 2010, if I hear another "PROMISE" from them again, then they deserve a vote from me... Go Ping! Go Bong! we need your PROMISES...

[mygz14]

What does Mayor Paredes along with the Revilla Clan plan to do with this? I hope people get well informed about this project soon. I'm just excited something is going to happen, but we shouldn't be left not knowing anything. Right now, there seems to be no progress at all.

[bartstrife99]

I heard this comment several times. All I can say is: "sanay na kami". We have senators coming from Cavite and they PROMISED to help their fellow Cavitenyos. Well, we dont need wide roads, we just need PROMISES, it only takes 2 hrs going to makati anyway... This coming 2010, if I hear another "PROMISE" from them again, then they deserve a vote from me... Go Ping! Go Bong! we need your PROMISES...

May akalimutan ka isama mo na si Abaya!

[spearhead]

wala paring developments

[greenshields]

I don't think there will be developments here. It's not a priority of the current admin.

[angelneo]

For Cavite, they should prioritize the completion of Coastal Road and the LRT-1 extension... Then, for the next president, Sangley Airport developments.

[lagim_29]

i think the developer wont continue the developement of cavite city...nakita na nila lahat ng gagawin nila...they have to dredge the bays,so that large container ships can enter the port...have to build long piers to accomodate those ships...road widening so container trucks can easily travel in and out...road widening would start from cavite city all the way to bacoor...where would relocate all the families that will be displaced as the construction begins...they have to upgrade the the roads and sewerage systems, kasi konting ulan lang baha agad...malulubog sa saltwater ung mga cargoes ng container van pag nag high tide...

[lochinvar]

Nakalalagim isipin.

[mygz14]

Any news? :)

[mr.suroy]

Alam nyo po ba na may Old existing railway dito sa cavite city noon at kaya nga nag karoon ng kalye tren dito sa cavite city! dating #1 City in the province of Cavite!

Old existing railway

from Manila - Bacoor- Kawit - Noveleta - Cavite City!

nakikita pa ba yung ROW nito? hehe

[bartstrife99]

nakikita pa ba yung ROW nito? hehe

di na po nasementuhan ng bato! during ramos era.

[mr.suroy]

di na po nasementuhan ng bato! during ramos era.

ah kanino na yung lupa? hehe

[pepeng_agimat]

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[mygz14]

^^I love my hometown

[bartstrife99]

ah kanino na yung lupa? hehe

nabili na ng mga tao at natayuan na ng mgagarang bahay! kaya yung tren naging kalye tren na lang! means as in Kalye na alng talaga!

[mygz14]

This project has been relatively silent. There aren't much news recently.

[bartstrife99]

na hospital kasi si Revilla Sr. kaya walang makapag follow up!

[Waldenstrom]

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Lovely shots! I foresee major changes in that area in the future.

For now, all that we can do is to wait. Be optimistic but not too much. :D There is still hope.

[mygz14]

Lovely shots! I foresee major changes in that area in the future.

For now, all that we can do is to wait. Be optimistic but not too much. :D There is still hope.

I pray and hope for the best :)

[noli_kun]

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Wow. I can see our humbly-built house as a little speck over there. :righton:

I can also see a new landscape that will sprout from this hook-shaped peninsula if the logistics hub planned in Sangley Point will materialize. I hope it would happen.

[mygz14]

Is Gimco Sangley Point Special Economic Zone different from this project? I just read it from Cavite's Provincial Site as one of the proposed Economic Zones.

[shytype]

is there any plans to resume the sangley point as new international gateway of the country

[kiretoce]

^^ The fact that you've resurrected this long forgotten and buried thread only proves that nothing is happening on that front. ;)

[Lucentino]

^:lol:

is there any plans to resume the sangley point as new international gateway of the country

PGMA has chosen Clark (DMIA) to be a major international airport (with back-up infrastructures such as SCTEx, NLEx, Northrail).

IMHO it would have been better if the government chose to develop Sangley or
Fernando Airbase in Lipa (below).
http://k53.pbase.com/g1/78/737778/2/105539124.LBNdnYoo.jpg
Jack Hannen

Also, I am thinking, once the extensions of Coastal Road to Cavite City & LRT to Bacoor are completed, NAIA can serve purely international flights while Sangley can become the local hub.

[mwg12a]

^^^^ I like the idea of Sangley Point better than in Lipa, because the area can be reclaimed to further extend the facility. With the coastal road connecting Manila to most provinces in Cavite, it will be real close. The one in Lipa is located inland, sangley can be developed into an airport since it's mostly far from the more populous area especially if the land is reclaimed, just like in HK and Japan.

[lochinvar]

I think both are satisfactory. The drawback for Sangley is huge money for reclamation while that of Fernando Airbase is nearness to Taal Volcano (actually the whole lake is the caldera of a giant volcano). Both are expandables and pretty much accessible with a better Coastal Road for the former and the renovated SLEX for the latter though.

[mwg12a]

Taal has always been an active volcano, that's a big drawback. With Sangley, you don't necessarily need to reclaim a big big chunk of land, it can start with something close between small and medium scale reclaimation and slowly reclaim a bit farther for future expansion.

The more costly part in realizing these would be the connection from Manila to Sangley via coastal road which the government needed to do anyway regardless of the airport or not because there is no more room for a new highway inland because Cavite is densely populated already.

[lochinvar]

In that case, let "Nardong Putik" know that his pet project is the better one. Also wake him up from his deep hibernation. :banana:

[mwg12a]

Who is nardong putik?

[bartstrife99]

Who is nardong putik?

Kilalang mamatay tao at may anting anting sa Cavite :lol::lol: humanda ka at baka mabasa nya post mo!

[lochinvar]

Actually, I am referring to the guy who played Nardong Putik in the movie and who slept most of the time while in the Senate hence the quote.

[mygz14]

Ramon Revilla Sr. :D

[bartstrife99]

Ramon Revilla Sr. :D

OO :lol:

[mwg12a]

^^^ Senior pala, hindi na Nardong putik yon, Nardong burak na lang...LMAO

[Lucentino]

I think both are satisfactory. The drawback for Sangley is huge money for reclamation while that of Fernando Airbase is nearness to Taal Volcano (actually the whole lake is the caldera of a giant volcano). Both are expandables and pretty much accessible with a better Coastal Road for the former and the renovated SLEX for the latter though.

Well, DMIA has Pinatubo...

I like Sangley better since it is much closer to NCR and most Eco-zones, compared to DMIA. It is very much expandable and easily accessible given enough funds for infrastructure.

We can emulate the trend in Japan where new airports are literally in the middle of the sea, complete with access road and rail.

[manila_eye]

Well, DMIA has Pinatubo...

I like Sangley better since it is much closer to NCR and most Eco-zones, compared to DMIA. It is very much expandable and easily accessible given enough funds for infrastructure.

We can emulate the trend in Japan where new airports are literally in the middle of the sea, complete with access road and rail.

You should also consider the fact that DMIA has already started its construction/plan for expansion. Developing Sangley at this time would be costly... would be disposed families living in the area would also jack up the cost. Of course, the possibility is always there.

[Lucentino]

^My comment was a case of "it would have been"... :)

[mwg12a]

You should also consider the fact that DMIA has already started its construction/plan for expansion. Developing Sangley at this time would be costly... would be disposed families living in the area would also jack up the cost. Of course, the possibility is always there.

DMIA will equally be expensive since the current highways connecting DMIA is still far from the capital city, it maybe closer to Quezon city but the travel time is not less than 1hr or atleast 45 mins. Building a rail system would be nice but that would be costly. I believe it there would be very little difference between the two when it comes to expenses. I don't oppose DMIA expansion and be used for future Main gateway to the Philippines. I was just saying the cost would not be much of a difference considering Cavite do needs a better roadways in that area and the coastal road would be the only answer to that and LRT/MRT system. I don't think there would be alot of families that may be displaced, possibly the illegal settlers. But when the land is reclaimed, the expansion in outward and not inward that would affect very many families. That's just my opinion. And also, whether DMIA is developed and Sangley is turned into the next NAIA, I don't think it would hurt it.

[Lucentino]

^Yeah, Sangley... "it would have been" the best compliment to NAIA & MNL.

[kalbongdad]

i have to disagree......with the traffic in that area....with no rail lines....clark is still the best...it is where the growth in our economy is concentrated right now and it has lots of spaces to spare.....

[mwg12a]

^^^^ rail line is costly as well and unless it's a bullet train, it takes an hour or so get there, even better. That's the drawback with Clark. Now, with sangley, since there is a coastal highway that has been started, it can also be planned to extend much further and with the container or international seaport being planned in that area. Development would still spur in that area which will benefit the country. DMIA can still be developed and should complement with NAIA even if NAIA is transfered to Sangley. Expansion would not be a problem as they can reclaim outward for it. If that is done that way it will be just like HK airport and Haneda Airport in Japan.

[pi_malejana]

^^ reclamation is expensive... DMIA already has 2 long runways and a room for expansion...

although i'll be glad if sangley will indeed be developed... malaki din ang potential nito... tapos may airport pang pina-plan sa taguig...:nuts: ang dami na...:D

:cheers:

[mwg12a]

all of them costs money for sure even finding way in connecting Manila to DMIA the fastest way. We really do not know how expensive reclaimation is but these reclaimation is being done since way back Marcos time, nothing has been mentioned on how enormously expensive it is. It all spurs development with Sangley, the government doesn't really necessarily need to built two runaway, just improve and lengthen the current one then work on in secondary runway when it really needs two. The two runways in DMIA would be under utilized since NAIA hasn't really surpassed 35Million passengers yearly mark. It's way below it. Besides, it is wiser to have an airport facing the ocean than inland. Besides, there are plans to turn Sangley into an international sea port and an international airport. Coastal road is there already, I'm pretty sure that with a good coastal road, it will cut the traveling time to that point from Manila to 30 mins or a little less, comparing to DMIA which is only closer to Quezon city when people claim it will take only an hour or so.

[spearhead]

^^ reclamation is expensive... DMIA already has 2 long runways and a room for expansion...

although i'll be glad if sangley will indeed be developed... malaki din ang potential nito... tapos may airport pang pina-plan sa taguig...:nuts: ang dami na...:D

:cheers:

Strategically located kasi ang Sangley for a future expandable international air and seaport combined. They can even make it a joint military and commercial air/seaports if they only want to.

Nagulat ako dyan sa Taguig plan nayan uh. Meron nga ba talaga? Any links? I wanan read it. Tnks!

all of them costs money for sure even finding way in connecting Manila to DMIA the fastest way. We really do not know how expensive reclaimation is but these reclaimation is being done since way back Marcos time, nothing has been mentioned on how enormously expensive it is. It all spurs development with Sangley, the government doesn't really necessarily need to built two runaway, just improve and lengthen the current one then work on in secondary runway when it really needs two. The two runways in DMIA would be under utilized since NAIA hasn't really surpassed 35Million passengers yearly mark. It's way below it. Besides, it is wiser to have an airport facing the ocean than inland. Besides, there are plans to turn Sangley into an international sea port and an international airport. Coastal road is there already, I'm pretty sure that with a good coastal road, it will cut the traveling time to that point from Manila to 30 mins or a little less, comparing to DMIA which is only closer to Quezon city when people claim it will take only an hour or so.

Agreed.

[spearhead]

Sangley Point, Cavite 2035
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How's that?

[spearhead]

I made some modifications on his drawings, just to see how it might look in the future if the plans materialized...

New version 1:
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[isagani]

^^ Looks good, but this will erase a whole city from the map. Where will the historic city of Cavite and its 100,000 residents go? Democracy basically will make this impossible.

[Brandon32]

Sangley Point, Cavite 2035
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How's that?

napaka strategic ng lugar...parang ang ganda pag magmaterialize itong sangley international airport..nag-uumpisa na ba ang construction?

bakit 2035? para sa ganyang project, pag privately funded, 7-10 years operational na yan...this would be a very good infrastructure development not only for cavite but for Metro Manila as well

[lochinvar]

Relax! Don't get too excited. That's just a drawing. Cavite City will still be there. If ever, the project's location is still currently under the water and may take decades before reclamation starts. (Where's the money?)

[spearhead]

^^ Looks good, but this will erase a whole city from the map. Where will the historic city of Cavite and its 100,000 residents go? Democracy basically will make this impossible.

The residents of the affected area will be relocated, it's not a whole city obviously. BTW, drawing nga lang yan, di natin alam yung exact original layout rendering nyan, although the person who originated posted it have previously claimed he saw the partial original plans. :cheers:

[spearhead]

napaka strategic ng lugar...parang ang ganda pag magmaterialize itong sangley international airport..nag-uumpisa na ba ang construction?

bakit 2035? para sa ganyang project, pag privately funded, 7-10 years operational na yan...this would be a very good infrastructure development not only for cavite but for Metro Manila as well

Even before we saw the DMIA plans, that sangley plan had already been placed in the early 90's only to be shelved, including the construction of a looping Suspension-Cable Bridge across the manila bay by corrigidor islands to connect the cavite and bataan provinces.

The original plan was also a prelude to replacing the NAIA during that time. But since they built those 2 new terminals in NAIA, then all we can hope for is no less than developing DMIA this time. Realistically, they can't just build 2new int'l airports that big so the question is, w/c one of them should become our gateway for tourism to replace NAIA as our main int'l airport? Let them enjoy those 2 new terminals first before building a new int'l airport at sangley while developing DMIA as our gateway. And do the see & wait thing when our country can finally register atleast 15-20 million or more tourist arrivals a year, by then they can have a very good reason to build another int'l airport to complement DMIA and close the NAIA, just like what other countries does.

BTW, if they close NAIA, i think that the Phil. Airline hangar should become an aircraft museum. Features should include various types of warplanes to modern jet-powered aircrafts and drones, including PAF's military planes.

[lochinvar]

I could feel a Sangley proponent saying to himself, "Lintek na Pinatubo yan. Umalis tuloy ang Amerikano." :lol: :lol:

[spearhead]

I could feel a Sangley proponent saying to himself, "Lintek na Pinatubo yan. Umalis tuloy ang Amerikano." :lol: :lol:

Exactly............ TSK.......

[mwg12a]

Man, that sketches you guys created there looks overly ambitious...LOL I'd just stick with DMIA plan instead. That coastal road over the ocean is kind of hard and too expensive to accomplish. I was just thinking of the same principle the current coastal road is being built, not too far from the mainland. The reclaimation for the terminal building and runways might be feasible but it still look too ambitious..

The way it looks like right now with DMIA, it is being hoisted to be a big LCC airport terminal which can be expanded even more, that's not a bad thing and even if they add full service airliners, it would still be helpful with the current NAIA because it will relieve some of it's burden from Naia.

[bartstrife99]

Sangley Point, Cavite 2035
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How's that?
Ang ganda ng proposed mo kaso baka di sa 2035 yan 2050 :D marami maapektuhan na nakatira dyan sa sea side for sure.

[spearhead]

Ang ganda ng proposed mo kaso baka di sa 2035 yan 2050 :D marami maapektuhan na nakatira dyan sa sea side for sure.


It's not mine. Check page 5 to 7.... Actually yung drawing ng mga terminals medyo masyadong malaki at di na proportional sa actual sizes.... I downloaded that drawing and made some adjustments and modifications pero di ko pa ma-upload. :)

[shytype]

Ang ganda ng proposed mo kaso baka di sa 2035 yan 2050 :D marami maapektuhan na nakatira dyan sa sea side for sure.

is this feasible?.. i think it require more private and govenment funding to make this airport feasible...

[shytype]

y not develop dis airport and rename it cory aquino international airport

[BoNduRanT]

While browsing my old files recently. I found this image I edited 1-2 years ago.

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[WawaY[625]]

whats with the cory airport thing? annoying na sobra andaming taong bawat may sikat na namamatay eh masyadong nagpapadala sa emosyon..name and airport after cory, make cory a saint..arrgh OA na

[pthfndr19]

^^ May pinalitan ng name ng school dun sa BASECO, Manila... Cory Aquino High School.. :cheers:

[marlowe_cano]

^^

from ninoy aquino now we have cory aquino... wag na lng siguro.. xado ng redundant... :)

[jogavilz]

and maybe in the future there will be kris aquino, noynoy, or even baby james airport... okay OT na haha

[lochinvar]

There are lots of places around the world named Colon, not for the intestinal extension but for Columbus.

[kalbongdad]

meron pa bang nangyayari sa project na to.....baka ito na ang pangalanan na cory acuino intl airport....:lol:....mga idea yun ni mar roxas na gusto lang umepal at magpapansin dahil sa ambisyon nyang maging pangulo...Pu$%&%& Ina...sabi pa niya...diba sabi ni ate glue...don't pussyfoot...pussy....and don't say bad words...:lol::lol:

[julzandrew]

sana yung Sangley ay terminal 4 na lang ng NAIA

[spearhead]

;41066046']whats with the cory airport thing? annoying na sobra andaming taong bawat may sikat na namamatay eh masyadong nagpapadala sa emosyon..name and airport after cory, make cory a saint..arrgh OA na

Ako maiintindihan ko pa kung gusto nilang ingalan ang isang airport o kahit kalye dyan sa isang tingin nilang dakila. Pero ang di ko magets talaga eh yung gagawing santo pa! OA talaga! Ano sila mga kolokoy, gustong santuhin ang isang taong sumusuporta sa komunista? Ang dami kasi ditong di nagbabasa ng biography ng mga aquino! Kaya nga pinakawalan nya si JORED eh obvious ba, dun nalang kait siguro grade 1 student eh mafi-figure out why. Tsk tsk....

While browsing my old files recently. I found this image I edited 1-2 years ago.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3/abercromb24/airport.jpg

It's fascinating though it seem to be hopeless. Did you just draw it yourself or was it based from some actual renderings? Thank you! :)

[Ronskie]

Ako maiintindihan ko pa kung gusto nilang ingalan ang isang airport o kahit kalye dyan sa isang tingin nilang dakila. Pero ang di ko magets talaga eh yung gagawing santo pa! OA talaga! Ano sila mga kolokoy, gustong santuhin ang isang taong sumusuporta sa komunista? Ang dami kasi ditong di nagbabasa ng biography ng mga aquino! Kaya nga pinakawalan nya si JORED eh obvious ba, dun nalang kait siguro grade 1 student eh mafi-figure out why. Tsk tsk....



It's fascinating though it seem to be hopeless. Did you just draw it yourself or was it based from some actual renderings? Thank you! :)

ano ba nangyayari sa pilipinas??..the way people act and decide things, dun pa lng makikita mo wala tlga pag asa umunland ang pilipinas...mas pinagaaksayahan ng panahon ang mga walang kwenta bagay. isipin nila dpat kung pano madedevelop yun airport at kung pano papaunlarin ang pilipinas. hndi yun inuuna pa pangalan nun airport eh hndi nga magawa gawa. kahit ipangalan pa ki Cory yun buong Pilipinas wala ako pakialam basta makita lng natin umaasenso ang Pilipinas. masyado pinaiiral ang emosyon hndi yun utak hayzzz (highblood) :ohno::ohno:

[spearhead]

ano ba nangyayari sa pilipinas??..the way people act and decide things, dun pa lng makikita mo wala tlga pag asa umunland ang pilipinas...mas pinagaaksayahan ng panahon ang mga walang kwenta bagay. isipin nila dpat kung pano madedevelop yun airport at kung pano papaunlarin ang pilipinas. hndi yun inuuna pa pangalan nun airport eh hndi nga magawa gawa. kahit ipangalan pa ki Cory yun buong Pilipinas wala ako pakialam basta makita lng natin umaasenso ang Pilipinas. masyado pinaiiral ang emosyon hndi yun utak hayzzz (highblood) :ohno::ohno:

Kung hindi magagawan ito ng gobyerno ng mga masmaiging paraan para mabawasan ang mga unfortunate pinoys, mas dadami pa yung mga uneducated pinoys sa susunod na generasyon, sila yung mga batang squatters na lumalaki sa riles, kalye "street children" & "squigee kids", tabing ilog, at relocation areas ngayon...

[ianers_ianized]

y not develop dis airport and rename it cory aquino international airport

hello?! cory wasn't even a significant figure in my hometown so please... better called it part of MNL airport name since its proximity to Manila if there are plans to develop it.

[Ronskie]

Kung hindi magagawan ito ng gobyerno ng mga masmaiging paraan para mabawasan ang mga unfortunate pinoys, mas dadami pa yung mga uneducated pinoys sa susunod na generasyon, sila yung mga batang squatters na lumalaki sa riles, kalye "street children" & "squigee kids", tabing ilog, at relocation areas ngayon...

I observed also bad influence din ang mga media and tv station dyan sa pinas. wala na ibang matino pinapalabas. Puro na lng wowoweee ska mga telenovela na wlang katuturan panoorin. Wowowee pa lng puro na lng mga kabobohan pinapalabas para lng mapagtawanan. And the sad thing is tinatangkilik nman ng mga Pilipino so pati mga kabataan mga kabobohan din natutunan sa mga palabas sa TV.
Unlike here in Singapore, 95% na pinapalabas dito kahit saan sulok, bus, stations, hawkers or carenderia dito puro business news, stocks, at yun may mga katuturan like how to cook, travel and leisure kya nman lagong lago ekonomiya nila.

[mwg12a]

Iba siguro kase ang outlook sa buhay ng mga pinoy, mas easy going kasi ang mga pinoy, simple at madaling makuntento sa konting ginhawa. Not necessarily bad but somehow it is not bad to aim high or atleast use that higher goal as a tool for their motivations to get stimulated even further.

[Fraulein]

Magiging kelangan din ng Pilipinas ang Sangley in the near future. Aside from Clark and Subic.^^

[julzandrew]

i agree

[lochinvar]

Any new development here?

[spearhead]

Same here just waiting for new developments.

I agree. I'm very optimistic about Sangley as becoming our next place for a super airport/seaport after DMIA in the future. The closing of NAIA is actually already in the planning by some politicians, favoring the place into manila's next super city and commercial district in the future. What i heard though, the plans will only proceed when atleast the construction of the super terminal at DMIA is done. The question is when it's gonna be done? And this plan is still need to be approved when they finally tacle this issue.

[mygz14]

Same here just waiting for new developments.

I agree. I'm very optimistic about Sangley as becoming our next place for a super airport/seaport after DMIA in the future. The closing of NAIA is actually already in the planning by some politicians, favoring the place into manila's next super city and commercial district in the future. What i heard though, the plans will only proceed when atleast the construction of the super terminal at DMIA is done. The question is when it's gonna be done? And this plan is still need to be approved when they finally tacle this issue.

Sooner or later, we'll hear something. Elections are around the corner. Definitely, politicos from Cavite (Province and City) shall say something about this project.

[mwg12a]

That coastal road project would probably pave way to that ambitious project to erect a new airport terminal in Sangley Point. It would really cost billions of dollars to realize this project but somehow, that coastal road is vital for the people of cavite since there is no other way to build a highway to connect Manila and Cavite with or without the airport plan. It's something all the cavitenos would be needing to experience progress in that area. I'm thinking since they needed this coastal highway, might as well continue with the International seaport and airport project. I would love to see this project come into reality without dishing the DMIA plan as well.