"Who are Palestinians and who are Palestinian ancestors? What religions do they follow? What language do they speak? Where Palestinian comes from? Do Palestinian have culture?

Many people are confused the name Philistine and the name Palestinian. Philistine is a sea people who settled in the southwest coast in the land of Canaan and the Palestinian mean anyone that are from the land of Canaan, including Israel, Judea, Philistine, Samaria, or Galilee. Palestinian comes from the land of Canaan known as Palestine (modern day Israel, the Gaza Strip, and the West Bank.)

Palestinians have very strong European and Middle Eastern influences:

1. Paleolithic and Neolithic periods (1000000 - 5000 BCE)
2. Chalcolithic period (4500 - 3000 BCE) and Bronze Age (3000 - 1200 BCE)
3. Iron Age (1200 - 330 BCE)
4. Persian rule (538 BCE)
5. Hellenistic rule (333 BCE)
6. Roman rule (63 BCE)
7. Byzantine (Eastern Roman Empire) rule (330-640 CE)
8. Arab Caliphate rule (638 - 1099 CE)
9. Umayyad rule (661 - 750 CE)
10. Abbasid rule (750 - 969 CE)
11. Fatimid rule (969 - 1099 CE)
13. Crusader rule (1099 - 1187 CE)
14. Mamluk rule (1270 - 1516 CE)
15. Ottoman rule (1516 - 1917 CE)
16. British Mandate (1920–1948)
17. Zionist rule (1948 - Present)

And yes today Palestine is still occupying by Zionist invaders.

Palestinians are considered Arabs today, but genetically they are a mix of people. Palestinian considered Arabs, because they are Arabized and live under the Arab league. However, many Palestinians trace their ancestry back to the time of the Canaanites, Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaim, Amorites, Girgashites, Jebusites, Judean, Israelites, Samaritans or Samarians, Philistine, and thereby mixed with the many conquerers who settled and assimilated into the population.

Palestinian language is Levantine Arabic, although long ago Palestinians spoke Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek. Palestinian religions are Sunni Islam, Druze, Baha'i, Christianity (Orthodox, Catholicism, Protestantism,) and Judaism (Samaritanism and Orthodox Jew). Long ago, Palestinians were Jews and some of them were pagan before the Christ was born. Then everybody converted to Christianity and Islam.

Yes, Palestinians do have culture. Palestinian culture is most closely related to the cultures of the nearby Levantine countries such as Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. It includes unique literature, music, and cuisine. The culture of the Palestinian people has also flourished in the Palestinian diaspora.

Palestinian traditional dress varies slightly from village to village and the embroidery on Palestinian dresses is always structured in a specific way. The embroidery is arranged on a chest panel, on the sleeves, on the sides of the skirt, and in a rectangular panel above the hem at the back of the dress.
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Both Jaffa oranges and olive trees serve as a symbols in the Palestinian folklore and literature. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Palestinian farmers were separated from orange groves and olive trees that their families had tended for generations. Palestinians were known for having the sweetest oranges and the best olive oil. For many Palestinians, Jaffa oranges and olive trees symbolize the bounty of what they view to be their lost homeland.
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Canaanite culture is still very much prevalent in Palestinian culture. We can see this through much Palestinian artwork. Many paintings feature a woman as the central figure. This woman, Anat, the ancient goddess of the Canaanites, symbolizes the soul and the strength of Palestine.
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Here are several Palestinian archaeological sites and I will be posting more...

Amud Cave or Wadi el 'Amud)
The material from Amud Cave in Palestine consists of the fragmentary remains of a male along with 15 other specimens two-thirds of which are children or infants. This material has been dated by thermoluminescence to approximately 45-47 thousand years old.
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An ancient sarcophagus in Ashkelon.
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Atlit Yam
The final Pre-pottery Neolithic B site of Atlit Yam in Palestine dates between 6900 and 6300 BC. Today, it lies between 8-12 m beneath sea level in the Bay of Atlit at the mouth of the Oren river on the Carmel coast. It covers an area of ca. 40.000 m2. Underwater excavations have uncovered rectangular houses and a well, which to date (2004) is the oldest in the world.
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Beersheva National Park
The site was used from the Chalcolithic period, around 4000 BCE, through to the sixteenth century CE. This was probably due to the abundance of underground water, as evidenced by the numerous wells in the area. The settlement itself dates from the early Israelite period, around the tenth century BCE.
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Mosaic at Tabgha
Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and the Fishes. The mosaic dates back to the Byzantine period.
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Caesarea Maritima or Caesarea Palaestina
Caesarea Palaestina from 133 A.D. onwards, was a city built by Herod the Great about 25–13 BC. Today, the city lies on the Mediterranean coast of Palestine about halfway between the modern day cities of Jaffa and Haifa.
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Capernaum
The town is mentioned in the New Testament: in the Gospel of Luke it was reported to have been the home of the apostles Peter, Andrew, James and John, as well as the tax collector Matthew.
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Dor
The meaning "Dor", known as Dora to the Greeks and Romans, was an ancient royal city of the Canaanites, (Joshua 12:23) whose ruler was an ally of Jabin king of Hazor against Joshua, (Joshua 11:1,2). In the 1100s the town appears to have been taken by the Tjekker, and was ruled by them at least as late as the early 1000s BCE.
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Hippos or Zippori
Between the third century BC and the seventh century AD, Hippos was the site of a Greco-Roman city. Besides the fortified city itself, Hippos controlled a small port facility on the lake and an area of the surrounding countryside. Hippos was part of the Decapolis, or Ten Cities, a group of cities in Palestine that were culturally tied more closely to Greece and Rome than to the Middle East.
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Ancient city of David
David conquered ancient Jerusalem in approximately 1004 BC and it became known as the City of David.
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Lachish
It is a town located in the maritime plain of Philistia. The Israelites captured and destroyed Lachish for joining the league against the Gibeonites, but the territory was later assigned to the tribe of Judah.
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Masada
A site of ancient palaces and fortifications in the South of Palestine on top of an isolated rock plateau, or large mesa, on the eastern edge of the Judean Desert overlooking the Dead Sea. Masada became famous after the First Jewish-Roman War (also known as the Great Jewish Revolt) when a siege of the fortress by troops of the Roman Empire led to a mass suicide of the site's Jewish Sicarii fugitives when defeat became imminent. Today, Masada is a very popular tourist destination.
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Megiddo
In ancient times Megiddo was an important city state. It is also known alternatively as Tel Megiddo (Hebrew) and Tell al-Mutesellim (Arabic). According to some interpretations of the Christian Bible, this place will be the venue for Armageddon or the final battle between the forces of light led by Jesus Christ and the forces of darkness led by Satan or the Anti-Christ after the End of Days.
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Mount Carmel
The Mount Carmel region near the city of Haifa, Palestine contains several of the most famous Neanderthal sites in the middle east.
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Sepphoris
Sepphoris in Greek, was a Galilean capital city located in the Lower Galilee midway between the Mediterranean and the Sea of Galilee.
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Beersheva National Park
The site was used from the Chalcolithic period, around 4000 BCE, through to the sixteenth century CE. This was probably due to the abundance of underground water, as evidenced by the numerous wells in the area.
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Rehob
important Bronze and Iron Age Canaanite city and a large earthen city mound in the Jordan Valley of Israel, approximately 5 kilometers south of Beisan and 3 kilometers west of the Jordan River.
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Hazor
Hazor was an ancient city located in the Upper Galilee, north of the Sea of Galilee, between Ramah and Kadesh, on the high ground overlooking Lake Merom. During the Egyptian Second Intermediate Period and early New Kingdoms (together running between 18th century BC and 13th century BC), Canaan was an Egyptian vassal state, and thus 14th century documents, from the El Amarna archive in Egypt.
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The Herodium
One of several fortresses built in 24 BC by Herod the Great and the only one named after him. He was the king of Palestine.
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Vadum Iacob
A 12th century AD crusader castle built by the Knights Templar and destroyed by Muslim forces in 1179 AD
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Jotapata
A fortress dating from the time of Joshua; it was among the towns captured by Tiglath Pileser III in 732 BCE.
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I'll post more Palestinian archaeological sites soon.

rubbish

you ignore the Jewish Hebrew kingdoms and self rule
from 1300 BCE till Jesus days.

all the Cnaanites people absorbed into the Hebrew ethnicity group and dissapear (except to the Philistines).

the people who lived and built Jerusalem Sepohris Scytopolis Caesarea in the pics you post
were Jews and spoke Hebrew so pay some respect.
the Hebrews exist from 2000 BCE till nowdays on the land of Israel ,which makes them the oldest preseved civilization on earth.

PLS EVERYBODY DONT ANSWER BACK TO THE TROLLS (POLITE)^^
JUST IGNORE THEM, THEY ARE ON A MISSION TO DISTROY THREADS.

Nice thread AzPheonix, gives us Palestinian history in a nutshell. :)

Thanks AZPhoenix....

ya reaaaaaaaaaaaaly good job azphonix............keep up the good work.:)

great work :)

hehehe lol :lol:

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delete this post if u consider it unrelated

The Hebrew Bible period is under Iron Age (1200 - 330 BCE). No, the modern Jews that living in Israel are not Hebrew. Stop thinking you guys are from the Holy Land.

^^ Umm... yes we are. you're attempts to re-write history are pathetic.

another rubbish

No, the modern Jews that living in Israel are not Hebrew. Stop thinking you guys are from the Holy Land.

so who are modern jews for u?alliens?

zohar you ashkenazi jews are from eastern europe you are khazar jews who have no relation to the hebrews and also khazar jews trace their roots to turkish/mongol roots so you guys should get out of palestine and forget it !!! you never belonged there! if you want turkey has its arms open for all kinds of turks even khazar/ashkenazi jews so stop wasting time and go where u belong!

zohar you ashkenazi jews are from eastern europe you are khazar jews who have no relation to the hebrews and also khazar jews trace their roots to turkish/mongol roots so you guys should get out of palestine and forget it !!! you never belonged there! if you want turkey has its arms open for all kinds of turks even khazar/ashkenazi jews so stop wasting time and go where u belong!

ok :rofl:

whatever will be .......WILL BE

zohar you ashkenazi jews are from eastern europe you are khazar jews who have no relation to the hebrews and also khazar jews trace their roots to turkish/mongol roots so you guys should get out of palestine and forget it !!! you never belonged there! if you want turkey has its arms open for all kinds of turks even khazar/ashkenazi jews so stop wasting time and go where u belong!

stupid comment, sfaradim and ashkenazi share similar genes

vixtro what are they dogs or rats? your full of **** this is bullshit about safardim and ashkenazi having same genes! stop lying its obvious!

great thread, gives simple history of the holy land :)

vixtro what are they dogs or rats? your full of **** this is bullshit about safardim and ashkenazi having same genes! stop lying its obvious!

start to read smart things and not propganda that your gov and society sells you.

i read a research about the "Jewish Genes", and it's true, almost all the jews in the world has a very very very close DNA code.

so plz, in the next time u say that Safardim, Ashkenzim and other jews dont having same genes, check it.

bye bye bullshit :)

start to read smart things and not propganda that your gov and society sells you.

i read a research about the "Jewish Genes", and it's true, almost all the jews in the world has a very very very close DNA code.

so plz, in the next time u say that Safardim, Ashkenzim and other jews dont having same genes, check it.

bye bye bullshit :)

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More than 20 years ago I had the pleasure of living with a Palestinian family for several months whilst I was working on an archeological "dig" in eastern Jerusalem. The thread is a good one, but biased. It did not mention that of all the Arab peoples, Palestinians are amongst the most highly educated and cultured. About the "Zionist occupation" ... well, there are 2 sides to every story!!! Both Jews and Palestinian Arabs have a legitimate claim in that region! The Jews of the diaspora, whether they were Sephardi, Ashkanazi, Mizrachi, Romaniot (northern Greek), Cochin (western Indian), etc., etc., all have nearly identical DNA and the claim that modern day Jews are not related to the ancient Israelite people is pure RACIST rubbish. But the Palestinian people also have historical claim to the region. That is why there is a conflict going on over there! Do not the Palestinians deserve some kind of reparation for property that was taken from them? Do not Israelis have the right to live in peace and security without the terrorism? I could go on and on having visited and lived in the region the past 30 years ... but I must say that as an advocate of democracy I prefer the government of Israel over any of it's arab neighbors, which are mostly corrupt despotic regimes.
For the record, I am a Buddhist, and for me the "Holy Land" is Lumbini, Nepal - Bodh Gaya, India-Sarnath, India. While I am angry at the Muslim Taliban of Afganistan for destroying the lovely ancient collosal statuary of the Lord Buddha in Bamiyan, I do not blame this on the Palestinians.

thank you for this enlightment, oh wise one :|

"Do not the Palestinians deserve some kind of reparation for property that was taken from them? Do not Israelis have the right to live in peace and security without the terrorism? I could go on and on having visited and lived in the region the past 30 years ... but I must say that as an advocate of democracy I prefer the government of Israel over any of it's arab neighbors, which are mostly corrupt despotic regimes."

I share very similar views..

Back to topic guys plz....

Stop this non-sense everybody

Thanks for the Excellent thread, educational indeed.

No offesne, but that time line doesn't mention anything about the Israeli kingdoms that were before the Romans.

Potato Potatoe

The Jews of the diaspora, whether they were Sephardi, Ashkanazi, Mizrachi, Romaniot (northern Greek), Cochin (western Indian), etc., etc., .

Cochin is not the exact Western city of India, actually it is amoung the Southern cities of India, but on the western side of South India. Cochin is the major commercial city of the Kerala state in India.

"Port Kochi" is the place in Cochin (now KOCHI) where the Jews mostly found, a Jewish Church is Still there.

Mount Carmel
The Mount Carmel region near the city of Haifa, Palestine contains several of the most famous Neanderthal sites in the middle east.



Haifa is on the Carmel, not near it (unless you are talking about 80 years ago were only the low places were populated, and then the name 'Haifa, Palestine' will be a lot more appropriate given the time period).

zohar you ashkenazi jews are from eastern europe you are khazar jews who have no relation to the hebrews and also khazar jews trace their roots to turkish/mongol roots so you guys should get out of palestine and forget it !!! you never belonged there! if you want turkey has its arms open for all kinds of turks even khazar/ashkenazi jews so stop wasting time and go where u belong!


You just made me go pack my stuff and head for Alaska like Iran's president suggested us to...lol.


Yes this place has some fascinating history, whether the thread should be called "Palestinian History..." is very arguable and I'm sick of arguing on these hopeless topics. It's time that people will accept that the country I'm writing from is (at least in the last 60 years) Israel, and have peaceful relations without all this hate.

I actually biked in Megido yesterday, beautiful place.

Cochin is not the exact Western city of India, actually it is amoung the Southern cities of India, but on the western side of South India. Cochin is the major commercial city of the Kerala state in India.

"Port Kochi" is the place in Cochin (now KOCHI) where the Jews mostly found, a Jewish Church is Still there.

Yes, I know. I have been there. There still is a section in the old part of town called "Jewtown" and the street that runs through it is "Jewtown Road." The Jews of Cochin - Kochi - were mainly engaged in the Black Pepper trade. Jews pray in buildings called synogogues NOT churches. There is still one active synogogue there, in a city where there once a hundred. There are something like 14 Jews left in Kochi ... nearly the entire community packed up and emigrated to Israel shortly after Israeli independence so that they can dwell in their ancient homeland.

interesting read and nice pictures (although it seems some info aren't accurate? :dunno:)

please lets keep this thread open and civil and post more about the Palestinian people and culture !! :gaah:

Seems like who ever started this tpathetic hread is shooting them selves in the foot.
They claim 100,000 years of Palestinan existance in todays Israel and even archelogical proof; yet NOT A SINGLE ruin can be attributed to them as it was either built by the Jews during the biblical times or the Roman's (who were not semetic). A 100,000 years, and not a single coin or a document that mentions the Palestinians (exluding the non semetic ancient Philistins), not a capital city or a king or a monument with the world palestinian.
To claim that the Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites is to claim that Turks are the descendants of the Germans. The Palestinians are ARABS, always were and always will be!

piss off :banana:

piss off :banana:

Great rebuttal

^^apropriate caliper

go back to khazaria

Seems like who ever started this tpathetic hread is shooting them selves in the foot.
They claim 100,000 years of Palestinan existance in todays Israel and even archelogical proof; yet NOT A SINGLE ruin can be attributed to them as it was either built by the Jews during the biblical times or the Roman's (who were not semetic). A 100,000 years, and not a single coin or a document that mentions the Palestinians (exluding the non semetic ancient Philistins), not a capital city or a king or a monument with the world palestinian.
To claim that the Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites is to claim that Turks are the descendants of the Germans. The Palestinians are ARABS, always were and always will be!

100 000 years of Palestinian existence or 100 years, It gives you no right to barge in and kick them out of their homes. And to claim that Israelis come from Israel is to claim that ''Turks are the descendants of Germans''. You're comment and existence would be valid if the REAL Israelis 2000 years ago live in Israel. There are no real Israelis in this world anymore after all the cultural mix up, did you forget about that in Israel's historical books??? The REAL Israelis were and always will be GONE.

Don't take this as offense, but the least you can do is give us one thread on this forum that we can keep things in peace and talk about the history, culture and archaeological sites of Palestine.

Well, they have a tendency in Israel, when they recover something like an old jar to automatically link it with biblical times.
PSeudo-archeology is strong in that country, and is it really such a doubt that afterwards people like Alon barge in, convinced that the palestinians have built "nothing" (which doesn't actually even mean anything).

100 000 years of Palestinian existence or 100 years, It gives you no right to barge in and kick them out of their homes. And to claim that Israelis come from Israel is to claim that ''Turks are the descendants of Germans''. You're comment and existence would be valid if the REAL Israelis 2000 years ago live in Israel. There are no real Israelis in this world anymore after all the cultural mix up, did you forget about that in Israel's historical books??? The REAL Israelis were and always will be GONE.

Don't take this as offense, but the least you can do is give us one thread on this forum that we can keep things in peace and talk about the history, culture and archaeological sites of Palestine.

No body baraged in! The land was sold to Jews like Baron Rothchild by the Otman Turks that ruled
and owned the land at the time. The UN voted on a Palestinian homeland in 1948 and the JEWs
accepted the deal which would have given the Arabs known as Palestinians the majority of the land.
As usual the Palestinians leadership refused and most their terrirtoy was occupied by Egypt and
Jordan. The real Israeli's still leave in Israel as some communities never left. One of those communities in Hebron was totly buthchered (including decapitating babies) in the 1929 Hebron massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre)The currect term would be Jews (Yehudim) as they came from the land of Judea (Yehuda) and not Israelis.
There was NO cultural mix up because the Europeans forbid Jews from living in the cities, joining trade guilds, attending universities or joining the army (until the end of the 10th century).
This racist acts is what preserved the Jews as they are though the centuries.
The Jews of Israel still exist and DNA can still prove it even if they leave in Sweden or a tribe in South Africe like the lemba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemba).
What Israeli/Jewish book would contradict that, Nadini?

There must be a reason why Moroccan Jews look like Moroccans, Yemeni Jews look Yemeni, African Jews look African and European Jews look like the Europeans.

Hey look! Another endless debate about Israel and Palistine! :| We all know what happens to these

Always :D

btw, ethnically, the Palestinians are probably more Jewish than you are Alon.

btw, ethnically, the Palestinians are probably more Jewish than you are Alon.

They are not, but ethnically we are extrimly close (blood relatives).
But then again, as humans we share nearly 60% of our DNA with fruit flies.

They are not, but ethnically we are extrimly close (blood relatives).
But then again, as humans we share nearly 60% of our DNA with fruit flies.

^^talk about ur self..............

back to the same old pathetic Arab arguments :ohno:

Pathetic Zionist arguments you mean :ohno:

One of the ost funny thread in SCC

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