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beta29 July 29th, 2007, 07:21 PM The mediaspree project:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8722/mediaspreevisualisierunggr3gp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The area around the new Hauptbahnhof in the future:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9428/lehrterqw0tv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The area around Gleisdreieck in the future:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9886/img67ft.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Breitscheidplatz
The current plans for Breitscheidplatz are intended to upgrade a site of both city-wide and national significance, whose development as part of central western Berlin must be seen in relation to the modernisation of the eastern city centre.
* The square's specific Charlottenburgian characteristics are to be strengthened and its special urban profile highlighted.
* That is why both the spaces and the edges of Breitscheidplatz must be strengthened.
* The energy of the Kurfürstendamm will be channelled along a new, attractively-designed Breitscheidplatz to as far as Budapester Strasse.
* It is to be interwoven more clearly with neighbouring urban districts to the north and southeast.
http://www.blc.berlin.de/imperia/md/images/blc/c_investiereninberlin/images/stadtplanungammodell/breitscheidplatz3d.gif
Rummelsburger Bucht
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5329/83289azrautenbach108d1fbb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/3528/83289bzrautenbach1094a5km0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/705/83289czrautenbach10976bju5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/1125/83289dzrautenbach109dd5wi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)[/QUOTE]
Here are some plans for the new airport Berlin-Brandenburg international:
Construction has already started:D
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6482/11523732386332616139fi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7779/11523438633631343034wn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/928/11523938333030313036eq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1970/page71017fullce0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7281/page71018fulliu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6098/page71019fullcy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The biggest cross-station "Ostkreuz" is going to be renovated.
They´ll need about 10 years because they can´t close the station.
Nearly all S-bahn lines stop at this station....so it has to stay in service!
After renovation it will look like this:
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/2452/1bigrl9pj8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4906/page71023fullmm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The new metro stations Hauptbahnhof and Bundestag are nearly finished!
The new line U55 will use them.....later there will be an extension and the U5 will use it!
Here are some pics!
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6485/p1010900sp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4247/p1010899xd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4038/p1010901hb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Humboldthafen development
http://www.baunetz.de/upload/82934ez00.jpg
http://www.baunetz.de/upload/82933cz.jpg
http://www.baunetz.de/upload/82933az.jpg
http://www.baunetz.de/upload/82933bz.jpg
BAB 100 - The project
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/bauen/strassenbau/pix/a100_planung.gif
[QUOTE=De Snor;11421894]new housing project : Alter Schlachthof
location:
http://mysql.snafu.de/stadtumbau/1domain/bilder/inhalt/lage_in_berlin_1.gif
http://mysql.snafu.de/stadtumbau/1domain/selfedit/kd1/img/ses_bauherren.jpg
1. Blankensteinpark , 22 units
2. CPC , 19 units
3. Cantina , 19 units
4. Concepta , 14 units
5. nothing official yet
The O2-world:
http://www.berliner-rundfunk.de/brfmedia/1/5/3bc7f489e59e9306ec5351fedd664a.jpg
http://www.berliner-rundfunk.de/brfmedia/c/1/ce13c86544651f5db2ebb93986434f.jpg
http://www.berliner-rundfunk.de/brfmedia/c/1/697d4af1150c27bc9f25ecf97f3f29.jpg
construction update:
http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg0433wi1.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/913/cimg0434he8.jpg
Official site:
www.O2-world.de
Thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=444156
New Highway A 113 which will connect the new airport to the city.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Berlin_A113_Ausfahrt_Stubenrauchstra%C3%9Fe.jpg/800px-Berlin_A113_Ausfahrt_Stubenrauchstra%C3%9Fe.jpg
More pics can be found here:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/endelvelt/
MORE TO COME SOON:D
beta29 July 29th, 2007, 07:28 PM More from Berlin...from Berlin construction update at Urban Affairs
Time for a big update!:D:D
1. 3 Leipziger is finished now!
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3170/25leipzigerstr240407vj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/777/26leipzigerstr240407hn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7986/27leipzigerstr240407dk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1065/30leipzigerstr240407rm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5319/20leipzigerstr240407si8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
2. New shopping center(the 2nd biggest in Berlin) near Alexanderplatz nearly finished now.....btw...there´s an option for a scraper:D
Ok, i think the colour is quite ugly but anyway...:D
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/8265/berlinalexa05fd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5209/berlinalexa06zg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The scraper would look like this....
http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/2498/96945scaleuphk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
3. There´s also a new shopping center in the south of Berlin(Steglitz) which opnend a month ago....It is the SSC (Schloss-Strassen-Center)
This pic is quite old but it gives you an idea how big it is!:)
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/589/file0000fa57aa5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
A new hotel at Zoo is finished now:)
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7489/01motelonepy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3959/02motelonehr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7355/10moteloneqe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 July 29th, 2007, 07:30 PM More more more!:nuts:
The construction for the free area at mendelssohn-bartholdy-park will start soon. The complex right on the photo...also notice the subway in front of it!!:)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/2387/mendelsohnbartholdyplathe1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8392/1543571080707potsepromown2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This is a project near Alexanderplatz....it´s called Mehlschwalbenhaus and will start soon....there will be a scraper too as you see on the pic but I don´ know how high it will be...more information later:)
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1726/cimg0458ky6qx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
O2-world webcam
http://panterra.tv/aysprojekt/o2world%20Cam%2001/webpics/o2world1.jpg
More to come soon!;)
ZZ-II July 29th, 2007, 07:59 PM thx for opening that thread. didn't know that there's so much UC at the moment in berlin.
Lucas. July 29th, 2007, 08:00 PM well done, thank you
Knuddel Knutsch July 29th, 2007, 09:34 PM ---
Danish_guy July 29th, 2007, 11:44 PM Could you please tell me where in berlin this airport will be located ?
pink_mermaid July 29th, 2007, 11:45 PM Berlin is getting more and more pretty each day, i was there last year for work and really like the city, looking forward to go back there
goschio July 30th, 2007, 12:51 AM No skyscraper under construction?
HelloMoto163 July 30th, 2007, 04:45 PM the airport is locatet in the south-east of berlin
Ludi July 30th, 2007, 07:00 PM No skyscraper under construction?
They want to build 10 150m Towers:
next to the "Fernsehturm(365m)" at the Alexanderplatz.
one of them will be startet to construct next year and the other i dont know^^
Ludi July 30th, 2007, 07:07 PM http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/aktuell/wettbewerbe/ergebnisse/2003/alexanderplatz/pix/alex-plan_1000.jpg
http://www.teko.de/picture/bbi.jpg
http://www.berlin-airport.de/DE/BBI/FlughafenDerZukunft/images/BBI_Uebersicht_Karte_480.jpg
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/planen/staedtebau-projekte/breitscheidplatz/pix/zoofenster_030512_379x650.jpg
http://www.baunetz.de/sixcms_4/sixcms_upload/media/2520/wes_alexanderplatz01.jpg
http://stadt.cityreview.de/images/fotos/9a/9aca67.jpg
beta29 July 30th, 2007, 07:24 PM The best chances for skyscrapers are at Zoo.
I´m happy if they built one skyscraper at Alexanderplatz, I think we will never see ten skyscrapers there.
Her are two skyscrapers at Zoo, like I said it has the best chance to get built!
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4333/casianahwirkg450x675ru8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4986/zooneuwz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1020/zoof02grossvi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 July 30th, 2007, 07:34 PM Also a very interesting project:
*Hackesches Quartier*
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8633/berlin002mn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4599/berlin001qq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/8080/berlin003ah1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I think it fits very good in this part...:)
beta29 July 30th, 2007, 07:46 PM Update:
*Townhouses*
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3824/1185357271kirche1907200bv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/6064/cimg3111pd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ludi July 30th, 2007, 07:49 PM The best chances for skyscrapers are at Zoo.
I´m happy if they built one skyscraper at Alexanderplatz, I think we will never see ten skyscrapers there.
Her are two skyscrapers at Zoo, like I said it has the best chance to get built!
Yes, at the Zoo yes, but at the Alexanderplatz, they will build 1 Tower at the beginnig of the next year, next to the new Shopping Center( Photos at the top, the rosa Center) the investors said, that they will present the project of the tower and the names of the investors at the end of 2007.
May be then the other Towers will get buildet too.
Bond James Bond July 31st, 2007, 05:20 AM Hooray! A Berlin thread! :banana:
GNU July 31st, 2007, 01:56 PM http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4333/casianahwirkg450x675ru8.jpg
It would be super awesome if theyd built that tower.
And lets hope that something happens with the Zoofenster aswell.
Right now its just a construction site in the middle of the city
@beta29 Do you know anything about the Hackesche Quartier?
How are the chances that its going to be built?
GNU July 31st, 2007, 02:19 PM delete
GeneratorNL July 31st, 2007, 02:30 PM That render in which you can see about 10 skyscrapers at Alexanderplatz is crazy:nuts:. I doubt they will all get build. The area around the Hauptbahnhof (Main Station) will be amazing too (actually it already is). It's nice to see all the construction going on in the city. Can't wait to visit Berlin again.:)
Noch immer die beste Stadt der Welt! :cheers:
Tricky July 31st, 2007, 04:47 PM That render in which you can see about 10 skyscrapers at Alexanderplatz is crazy:nuts:. I doubt they will all get build.
It will - just give it 10 more years. :)
ZZ-II July 31st, 2007, 04:57 PM i really hope they'll build them, berlin needs a good skyline
Ludi August 1st, 2007, 04:33 PM i really hope they'll build them, berlin needs a good skyline
i too.
And I think it will get buildet in some yaers, next year they will begin whit 1 to 100%, next to the ALexa Shopping Center.
beta29 August 21st, 2007, 07:56 PM Here are some pictures about the tram extension(line M2) to Alexanderplatz. It´s finished quite a long time but I think it needs to be mentioned.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1677/108409st2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1299/109516el7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7662/112175wq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 August 21st, 2007, 08:08 PM The Charite(hospital) building gets a new facade and 7 storeys more
Construction has started:)
I know it´s quite impossible to see anything because of this huge poster, but anyway....
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9863/124charitebettenhausak6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ludi August 25th, 2007, 02:13 AM plz vote here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=515609
thx :)
ZZ-II August 25th, 2007, 11:27 PM Charite gets 7 floors more :eek:, wow!!
Ludi August 26th, 2007, 01:15 AM Investor: Vienna International Hotelmanagement AG
new Hotel whit 567 beths^^
it cost: 8,1 Millionen Euro
http://antiteilchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/Landsberger%20Arkaden%20Ecke.JPG
http://www.feinschmeckerblog.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/file-1.jpg
ANd the City-Airport and the first Airport of the world( constructed bei Hitler) will get closed and now the question is, what after the "AIrport-time"
Maybe a little Mallorca with discos and beachbars in Berlin:
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/storage/scl/fotos/berlin/160622_m1w590q75s1v16108.jpg
Ludi August 26th, 2007, 01:26 AM New Investor for the "Zoofenster" i hope it will get buildet now!
http://www.buenck.fehse.com/projects/retail/files/page2-1011-full.jpg
onetwothree August 27th, 2007, 11:06 PM I love the Zoofenster! Berlin is an amazing city, good to see something happening there. And I can't wait to go back! :D (November, November!)
ZZ-II August 28th, 2007, 10:25 PM we should hear some new infos from the Wheel soon....as far as i know they would start next month or so
HelloMoto163 August 30th, 2007, 06:56 PM it isnt the zoofenster on the render. its the "atlastower" / "schimmelpfenghaus"
KoolKeatz August 30th, 2007, 08:16 PM ANd the City-Airport and the first Airport of the world( constructed bei Hitler) will get closed and now the question is, what after the "AIrport-time"
Tempelhof is from the 20s!
Darryl August 30th, 2007, 10:04 PM Berlin is my favorite city in the world. Thank you for this thread updating us on all the construction projects there.
Whatever happened to that big ferris wheel project that was talked about a lot last year?? Did they scrap the project?
beta29, isn't that M2 to Alexanderplatz extension the tram that Julia Stiles got onto in the Bourne Supremacy?
I think the tall building proposed for the Zoo area with the big square glass window at the top is horrible! very haesslich!:tongue3:
Darryl August 31st, 2007, 02:04 PM Oh, and I'm glad they are doing something with Charite. It too was ugly.
Myster E August 31st, 2007, 04:51 PM Holy Cow! Berlin still has C&A, I thought they vanished or went bust ages ago, it seems like almost twenty years since I last saw them in Britain.
GNU August 31st, 2007, 08:29 PM C&A is quite popular in Germany.
Its a german company afterall.
beta29 August 31st, 2007, 09:15 PM Here you can see the new Hines areal at Alexanderplatz, this is how the new building will look like:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1741/123461scalqi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
So, here you can see the construction which is going on there now:
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7417/12424529697d8247e1fcojr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
It will be ready in summer/autumn 2008 if I don´t have wrong information:)
btw. You can see the new Alexa shopping center in this picture....look after the "pig" colour:D
beta29 August 31st, 2007, 09:19 PM Update
The new American Embassy at Brandenburger Tor
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3359/1250334563751e2c9e0abhq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 August 31st, 2007, 09:21 PM beta29, isn't that M2 to Alexanderplatz extension the tram that Julia Stiles got onto in the Bourne Supremacy?
Oh, it´s a long time ago I saw this film but I´m quite sure it was the M2:)
Darryl August 31st, 2007, 09:27 PM Oh, it´s a long time ago I saw this film but I´m quite sure it was the M2:)
Thanks beta29. Do you know anything about the ferris wheel project in Berlin that would be similar to the London Eye? Will it be built?
beta29 August 31st, 2007, 09:27 PM With this 3 new buildings the Friedrichswerder project is completed.
Construction is going to start soon.
If you ask me the architecture is nothing spectacular, quite boring boxes!:(
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/504/zueblindwberlinb365763gsi0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 August 31st, 2007, 09:36 PM Thanks beta29. Do you know anything about the ferris wheel project in Berlin that would be similar to the London Eye? Will it be built?
I found an article about the wheel....but it´s in german
Das geplante Riesenrad am Berliner Zoo soll ein wellenförmiges Eingangsgebäude erhalten. Dynamik, Leichtigkeit und Bewegung bestimmten den Entwurf der "Abflughalle", sagte der Architekt Ingo Pott. Die Konstruktion aus Stahl, Metall und Glas hebe das Riesenrad als Hauptattraktion optisch noch hervor. Das 185 Meter hohe Riesenrad werde das 11.500 Quadratmeter große Gebäude durchschneiden, so dass die Kapseln von allen drei Geschossen aus zu sehen sein werden.
In dem Terminal soll es Einzelhandel, gehobene Gastronomie sowie Ausstellungs- und Veranstaltungsflächen geben. Die drei Etagen werden mit Roll- und Freitreppen verbunden sein. Nach Sicherheits- und Zugangskontrollen wird der Gast im zweiten Geschoss die Kapseln des Riesenrads betreten. In dem Gebäude sind Stellplätze für 200 Fahrräder und 20 Kleinbusse sowie 40 Parkplätze für Behinderte vorgesehen. Vor der Halle werden laut Planungen 17 Reisebusse parken können. Der Verkehrsingenieur Bodo Fuhrmann geht davon aus, dass ein Großteil der Besucher mit öffentlichen Verkehrsmitteln anreisen wird. Für Autofahrer seien genügend Plätze in den umliegenden Parkhäusern vorhanden.
Der Geschäftsführer der Great Berlin Wheel GmbH & Co.KG, Michael Waiser, rechnet mit der Baugenehmigung im Oktober. Wenn der Zoo seinen jetzigen Betriebshof rechtzeitig räume, könne sich das Riesenrad erstmals im Herbst 2009 drehen. Die Great Berlin Wheel hat das Areal nach Waisers Angaben für 25 Millionen Euro gekauft. (mit ddp)
I means, they hope to get started with the project in October this year, so it would be ready in autumn 2009:) :) :) :cheers: :cheers:
HEIGHT: 185 Meters:cheers: :cheers: :banana: :banana:
M.Schwerdtner August 31st, 2007, 09:38 PM 40 Behindertenparkplätze??? ... die sind wohl behindert und wir solln wieder von den umliegenden Parkhäusern latschen bis dahin.
Darryl August 31st, 2007, 10:00 PM I means, they hope to get started with the project in October this year, so it would be ready in autumn 2009:) :) :) :cheers: :cheers:
HEIGHT: 185 Meters:cheers: :cheers: :banana: :banana:
Thanks so much! You're awesome. I wonder if the individual compartments will look really cool like the glass pods on the London Eye. Hopefully it won't be ugly like the one in Wien.
beta29 September 1st, 2007, 07:39 PM Thanks so much! You're awesome. I wonder if the individual compartments will look really cool like the glass pods on the London Eye. Hopefully it won't be ugly like the one in Wien.
It will be quite similar to the London wheel.....just taller.
And Viennas wheel is not ugly...it was built in the year 1897.....so what do you expect!?:lol:
beta29 September 1st, 2007, 07:47 PM Here are some renderings from the new BBI Airport
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2125/1564761bbiluftbildlandsox7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2535/1564771bbiterminalaltermp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/7683/1564781bbiverkehrshafenyo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2424/1593771bbiddpxi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Construction at the moment.....
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7439/1613341bbidpand4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ok...not much to see....but anyway...construction is going on:)
GeneratorNL September 1st, 2007, 07:51 PM C&A is quite popular in Germany.
Its a german company afterall.
This is not entirely true. It is founded by 2 German brothers in the Netherlands in the year 1841, and it's European headquarters are in Vilvoorde (Belgium) right now. But it is true that C&A is popular in Germany.:)
On topic: I really hope the big observation wheel gets build. It would be a nice addition for the Zoo area.
GNU September 1st, 2007, 07:54 PM http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7439/1613341bbidpand4.jpg
Is that the current Schönefeld airport terminal in the upper corner?
GNU September 1st, 2007, 07:57 PM This is not entirely true. It is founded by 2 German brothers in the Netherlands in the year 1841, and it's European headquarters are in Vilvoorde (Belgium) right now.
Allright, fair enough :)
But isnt C&A based in Düsseldorf though?
beta29 September 1st, 2007, 07:57 PM Yes it is the current terminal....quite cute isn´t it!?:lol:
GNU September 1st, 2007, 08:00 PM Yes, its absolutely tiny.
Its really about time that the city gets the BBI
GeneratorNL September 1st, 2007, 08:08 PM Allright, fair enough :)
But isnt C&A based in Düsseldorf though?
Only the German headquarters are based in Düsseldorf. Check Wikipedia if you want to know more about C&A's history ;) . We shoudn't continue this off topic chatting for to long, or people will get mad :bash: :lol: .
HelloMoto163 September 4th, 2007, 06:28 PM mediaspree
http://www.mediaspree.de/cms2/fileadmin/bilder/luftbilder/elsen-oberbaum_text_screen.pdf
http://www.mediaspree.de/cms2/fileadmin/bilder/luftbilder/schill-oberbaum_text_screen.pdf
ZZ-II September 6th, 2007, 08:33 PM Yes it is the current terminal....quite cute isn´t it!?:lol:
was there a few weeks ago....doesn't look like an airport :lol:
RzgR Spijkenisse September 7th, 2007, 01:55 AM Only the German headquarters are based in Düsseldorf. Check Wikipedia if you want to know more about C&A's history ;) . We shoudn't continue this off topic chatting for to long, or people will get mad :bash: :lol: .
Please stop. :bash:
GeneratorNL September 7th, 2007, 05:05 PM Please stop. :bash:
I'm sorry big mister Spijkenisse:lol: , but I thought that you didn't have time to post on this forum anymore since you are running your little hotel in Milton Keynes right now?:cheers:
Edit: I downloaded the new version of Google Earth this week, and you can clearly see the new runway of BBI as a big sandy strip. Sehr toll!
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 01:06 PM Here´s a nice rendering from our wheel (185m). Construction is going to start(hopefully) in October:)
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9756/1503951friesenradiv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 01:12 PM A new (quite ugly) building for our Mediaspree areal...construction is going to start soon.
It´s for fashion labels like Boss etc. ....
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/2864/84465azhhfcw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1429/84465bzhhfkx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4430/84465dzhffhb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 01:17 PM *Townhouses update*
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2952/0709070311808ls5pe6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3593/0709070341810kt2nl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/9742/1180816686bigxc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2913/1189166568kirche290807hj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 01:24 PM Let´s have a look what will happen with the big Grunerstraße near Alexanderplatz.:)
Today
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1852/1633691080907mittealtdice7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Tomorrow;)
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/1430/1633701080907mittedig18sf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
GNU September 10th, 2007, 01:24 PM http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/2913/1189166568kirche290807hj7.jpg
Will they eventually close that gap on the left someday?
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 01:27 PM *O2 Arena Update*
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2951/1180808122fo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9084/1180808237yl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
GNU September 10th, 2007, 01:30 PM Heres the O2-world webcam:
http://panterra.tv/aysprojekt/o2world%20Cam%2001/webpics/o2world1.jpg
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 01:32 PM Will they eventually close that gap on the left someday?
No, this would be a very tight areal then:lol:
(Ganz im Ernst...die kleine Straße rechts ist einfach zu klein. Da könnte ich dem Nachbarn von gegenüber ja in den Kochtopf gucken:) Das wären ja dann schon italienische Kleinstadtverhältnisse.
Außerdem ist man in Berlin doch der Meinung, dass man immer noch viel zu wenige Grünflächen hat!:)
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 02:19 PM *Palais Kolle Palais* construction has already started....nice buildings....i love them
It´s in Pankow at metro station Senefelder Platz
Here are some impressions:
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/4873/0709070141740fm8px7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/9044/imp15ye4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4256/imp16uc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8830/imp9mp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9199/imp11qm4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 10th, 2007, 02:26 PM Here are some pictures from our new metro stations Hauptbahnhof and Reichstag. They seem to be finished...but U55 will open in 2009:(
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6853/u55hbf20070109020jpgqr1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/4076/u55hbf20070109018jpgfo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4723/u55bt20070109010jpgmm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Justme September 10th, 2007, 08:55 PM 2009! Are you serious? If the line is finished, how long can it take to test and get ready? Quite frankly, this is a bit of an embarrassment.
Of cause, I'm also pissed off as I'll be arriving at the new hauptbahnhof in a couple of weeks and was sort of hoping to check out the new line ;O)
ZZ-II September 10th, 2007, 10:00 PM wow, the new hauptbahnhof looks wonderful...i've to go to berlin next year again to visit that :)
Isek September 11th, 2007, 08:33 AM ^^^
There are big problems at the station "Brandenburger Tor" due to some planning and building mistake.
GNU September 11th, 2007, 05:54 PM 2009! Are you serious? If the line is finished, how long can it take to test and get ready? Quite frankly, this is a bit of an embarrassment.
Of cause, I'm also pissed off as I'll be arriving at the new hauptbahnhof in a couple of weeks and was sort of hoping to check out the new line ;O)
I aggree.
They need years and years to finish a small stretch of a underground line.
Hows that possible?
Madrid is almost building an entire underground network in the same time.
Kampflamm September 19th, 2007, 08:29 PM Upper Eastside Berlin
http://www.morgenpost.de/images/2007/09/19/berlin/140727_scaleUp.jpg
http://panterra.tv/aysprojekt/meag2/webpics/webpic.jpg
This beauty used to be there:
http://www.abrissberlin.de/pics/hotel-unter-den-linden.jpg
http://www.lilano.de/catalog/images/hotel-unter-den-linden_200602DSC0549.JPG
Darryl September 19th, 2007, 09:56 PM This beauty used to be there:
http://www.abrissberlin.de/pics/hotel-unter-den-linden.jpg
:rofl:
That is the ugliest building ever! I remember it. So glad they are replacing it with this project. Thanks for the pic of the replacement.
Darryl September 20th, 2007, 09:46 PM Does anyone know when the new American embassy on Pariser Platz is supposed to be finally completed??
ZZ-II September 20th, 2007, 10:07 PM ^^^
There are big problems at the station "Brandenburger Tor" due to some planning and building mistake.
bad to hear that :(
erbse September 23rd, 2007, 03:07 PM Btw, what's going on with the 'hugest wheel on earth' down there? Is it finally goin to be realized? Otherwise there might be some hundreds of bigger wheels in a few years I guess...
beta29 September 23rd, 2007, 06:07 PM Construction is propably going to start in October!:)
Kommt alles darauf an ob das mit dem Verkauf des BVG Busplatzes hinter dem Zoo rechtzeitig klappt. Das Riesenrad wird nämlich genau dort stehen!
ZZ-II September 25th, 2007, 01:06 PM at least the construction of that wonderful project is sure. and then...berlin will also hold a "tallest-record"
beta29 September 25th, 2007, 05:26 PM Here is another new project:
The plan is to make the street smaller(it looks like a Autobahn through the city at the moment;) )
And of course new buildings will take place, but just have a look at this pictures:
Now:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7870/1633691080907mittealtdigp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
In the future:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7392/1633701080907mittedig18ly2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 25th, 2007, 05:35 PM O2 Update:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7477/mg3486jg8oq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4100/mg3503fi7go4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 25th, 2007, 05:40 PM Now I add another picture from our new wheel where construction will start hopefully in October:D
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9397/1503951friesenradic9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 September 25th, 2007, 05:43 PM Does anyone know when the new American embassy on Pariser Platz is supposed to be finally completed??
They´ll move in their new embassy in April 2008:)
GNU September 26th, 2007, 06:05 PM Some pics of the Richtfest of the Neue Museum: (it will open in 2009)
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00389/foyer1_jpg_389222j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00389/foyer2_jpg_389224j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00294/baustelle_fassade_j_294003j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00383/restauratoren_jpg_383958m.jpg
This will become the main entrance building to the Museumsinsel:
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00389/simu1_jpg_389241j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00389/simu2_jpg_389240j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00389/simu3_jpg_389237j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00389/simu4_jpg_389236j.jpg
Justme September 26th, 2007, 06:54 PM Fantastic! I wish I lived in Berlin. Actually, I'll be there on Friday for another visit. Love the city.
erbse September 26th, 2007, 07:03 PM ^ You might be lunatic to call this thang fantastic...
iLiR September 27th, 2007, 06:39 AM Great location but horrible design! What's the purpose of this museum?
Kampflamm September 27th, 2007, 02:54 PM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neues_Museum
Used to look beautiful
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Treppenhaus_Neues_Museum_um_1850.jpg/752px-Treppenhaus_Neues_Museum_um_1850.jpg
Justme September 27th, 2007, 02:58 PM I have to agree the interior isn't so great, but I do love what they're doing on the outside.
Kampflamm September 27th, 2007, 03:47 PM The new wing of the museum:
http://www.museumsinsel-berlin.de/images/2_haeuser/2_3_1_1_ansicht.jpg
Entrance building for the entire island:
http://www.museumsinsel-berlin.de/images/2_haeuser/2_7_1_1_ansicht.jpg
erbse September 27th, 2007, 05:51 PM Crap like that is goin to be demolished in other (wealthier?) cities...
Darryl September 27th, 2007, 10:35 PM I'm sorry, I was unaware of the Upper Eastside Berlin project (there was a pic posted of it recently). Can anyone tell me what this project consists of (office space, residential, retail, etc...)? Also, could someone confirm whether this project is on Friedrichstrasse between the Friedrichstrasse train station and Unter den Linden as I believe it to be? Thank you in advance.
LuckyLuke September 27th, 2007, 10:51 PM Yes that's right the Upper Eastside project is between the station and Unter den Linden. You will find more infos about this project here (http://www.uppereastsideberlin.de/). The offical website is also in english.
Darryl September 27th, 2007, 11:09 PM Yes that's right the Upper Eastside project is between the station and Unter den Linden. You will find more infos about this project here (http://www.uppereastsideberlin.de/). The offical website is also in english.
Thanks so much! Classy project!
erbse October 6th, 2007, 07:51 PM Hey mates, little question: Is there anybody who knows what's goin on with the earlier proposed classical twin-highrises at Ernst-Reuter-Platz in Charlottenburg? I think they are gems of pure aesthetics and would be a great highlight, while arriving from the West:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7789/berlinernstreuterplatzpdm1.jpg
Sadly it was cancelled in the meantime without much doubt I guess :(
ZZ-II October 6th, 2007, 11:16 PM until now i've never heard from this project. the classic design looks good, harm that it will never become reality
beta29 October 6th, 2007, 11:32 PM A real construction is going on now at Ostkreuz.
Some parts of the roof are gone....some tracks also....
here are two pics:
NOW:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8302/29902gyp1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
In the FUTURE:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9435/page71022fullkb0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 October 6th, 2007, 11:41 PM Here´s an quite interesting project.
There are just luxury flats....it´s located in Mitte in Torstraße.
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8131/141200scaleupym2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
We have a lot of luxury projects right now....seems that many people are interested...:)
beta29 October 6th, 2007, 11:50 PM Another project, which is located in Mitte at Mollstraße and called Königstadt-Carree.
The tower(71m, 20 storeys) is for offices, the smaller buildings are owned by Etap hotels. Some flats will also find place there.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3255/mollmaxhochhausansichtvx9.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4239/etap2hu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Construction has already started....
http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/8650/etap1xx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
beta29 October 6th, 2007, 11:55 PM Here are some pics about the project "Messehotel"
It´s located at the Messe area. I don´t know the height of the building.
But it´s definately going to be built. A hotel is going to find place there!
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/528/hochhausplanunggruentucww9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5893/hochhausplanungmaehnerguj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
erbse October 7th, 2007, 02:03 AM Looks like Berlin's going to be the next Malle...
ZZ-II October 7th, 2007, 12:36 PM nice, at least some small highrises for berlin in the near future :)
erbse October 7th, 2007, 12:40 PM One simple question: Why does Berlin spreads his 'highrises' all over the city? It could have a nice little cluster long ago with the sparsely existing ones... It's just awkward that the government doesn't seem to be able to regulate this rank growth with a building plan or somethin like this.
SilesianSkyscraper October 7th, 2007, 01:09 PM You have really good projects in Berlin.
Darryl October 9th, 2007, 05:48 PM There was talk of restoring the East Side Gallery. Does anyone know of any concrete plans to accomplish this?? (no pun intended :lol: )
I know money was an issue. I saw East Side Gallery in Sept. of 2005 and it looked terrible. It is in very bad condition, and is an embarrassment. I hope restoration will take place.
beta29 October 10th, 2007, 01:47 AM One simple question: Why does Berlin spreads his 'highrises' all over the city? It could have a nice little cluster long ago with the sparsely existing ones... It's just awkward that the government doesn't seem to be able to regulate this rank growth with a building plan or somethin like this.
Our government isn´t able to do anything, you should know it....you´re from Brandenburg:)
I just hope....maybe in 50 years...the whole inner S-bahn ring area is a huge cluster:nuts: :)
city_thing October 10th, 2007, 04:51 AM I miss Berlin so much :/
My favourite city on Earth.
ravanellidiciamo October 10th, 2007, 05:47 PM I miss Berlin so much :/
My favourite city on Earth.
for me too....
but seriously.. i regret that berlin is losin all is free spaces in the town...
especially in east berlin.
big avenues and big squares give value to the buildings around. and this is (was??) a great issue for Berlin.
for instance.... northern alexanderplatz will be drown in buildings... its a sin...!!!!!!!
erbse October 10th, 2007, 06:19 PM for instance.... northern alexanderplatz will be drown in buildings... its a sin...!!!!!!!
Excuse me, but... Are you serious? :hahano:
Kampflamm October 10th, 2007, 06:23 PM The best thing you can do is hide those buildings around Alexanderplatz.
HelloMoto163 October 11th, 2007, 03:55 PM from the exporeal
anschutz entertaiment group
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9994/anschutzarealgv4.png
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the construction starts 2008
meermann-charmartin group
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4194/hauptbahnhofad5.jpg
goschio October 11th, 2007, 04:27 PM Wont get built anyway.
Kampflamm October 11th, 2007, 04:33 PM ^^ man Rehd doch nicht imma alles kapput!
HelloMoto163 October 11th, 2007, 05:31 PM kann mir durchaus vorstellen das das untere projekt am hbf gebaut wird
Insane alex October 11th, 2007, 05:56 PM English please.. i would like to understand what u are writing... this is the english speaking part of ssc..
Mexikaner October 11th, 2007, 06:43 PM kann mir durchaus vorstellen das das untere projekt am hbf gebaut wird
translation: i can imagine that the project will be built in haupt bahnhof
ravanellidiciamo October 16th, 2007, 04:10 PM Excuse me, but... Are you serious? :hahano:
I am...
i mean, northern Alexanderpaltz had a great historical value, wasnt so "beautiful" i agree but it was the central square of ostberlin.
now the new kaufhof and the new building in the "nike" basket field area will steal spaces and perspective to this area i liked a lot.
i like(d) belrin also because its enormous squares and avenues give a monumental vision to itself; now it seems that constructors are lookin for all these free spaces to build, and build, and build... i repeat it's a sin...!!
i give u another example: i like a lot new hauptbanhof because it's built in a free area that gives significance to the bulding as itself.
Great bulidings need some space in front to be appreciate in a significant way: look for instance at the tour Eiffel with trocadero at west and Champs de Mars at east.
On the other hand, look at Mole Antonelliana in Turin: it's a super and original tower as itself, but it is choked by a lot of other buildings around so u can't appreciate it if u look it from the street.
Kampflamm October 16th, 2007, 04:52 PM I get what you're saying but the difference is that while the Eiffel Tower & Mole Antonelliana are beautiful buildings, Alexanderplatz is just a nasty assortment of Communist structures. If the buildings looked similar to the ones on Karl-Marx-Allee I would agree with you.
Darryl October 16th, 2007, 07:26 PM i like(d) belrin also because its enormous squares and avenues give a monumental vision to itself; now it seems that constructors are lookin for all these free spaces to build, and build, and build... i repeat it's a sin...!!
i give u another example: i like a lot new hauptbanhof because it's built in a free area that gives significance to the bulding as itself.
Great bulidings need some space in front to be appreciate in a significant way: look for instance at the tour Eiffel with trocadero at west and Champs de Mars at east.
You make some very good points. I am in agreement with you. Part of what I love about Berlin is also the monumental look/scale of it. The enormous spaces are what makes Berlin really cool. Sometimes density is not all it's cracked up to be.
I too loved the new Hauptbahnhof particularly due to it's enormous size and setting on the river and in a large open space where it really gets to shine and scream out "Look at me I am Hauptbahnhof hear me roar!". :lol: Why have all this visual distraction taking away from it's grandeur? It should stand alone. I really really hope that all these buildings planned to be built all around it don't take away from it's current visual "wow factor", but alas, I'm sure they probably will. :ohno:
Shame. A huge, expensive, showcase building should be allowed to make it's own visual impact without being marred by all these other mediocre buildings blocking views of it.
ravanellidiciamo October 16th, 2007, 10:06 PM I get what you're saying but the difference is that while the Eiffel Tower & Mole Antonelliana are beautiful buildings, Alexanderplatz is just a nasty assortment of Communist structures. If the buildings looked similar to the ones on Karl-Marx-Allee I would agree with you.
You make some very good points. I am in agreement with you. Part of what I love about Berlin is also the monumental look/scale of it. The enormous spaces are what makes Berlin really cool. Sometimes density is not all it's cracked up to be.
I too loved the new Hauptbahnhof particularly due to it's enormous size and setting on the river and in a large open space where it really gets to shine and scream out "Look at me I am Hauptbahnhof hear me roar!". :lol: Why have all this visual distraction taking away from it's grandeur? It should stand alone. I really really hope that all these buildings planned to be built all around it don't take away from it's current visual "wow factor", but alas, I'm sure they probably will. :ohno:
Shame. A huge, expensive, showcase building should be allowed to make it's own visual impact without being marred by all these other mediocre buildings blocking views of it.
Darryl, im 100% agree with u...!!!
Kampflamm, im not agree with u instead. I think northern alexanderplatz is an example of communist rationalism, and it's a pity to lose it for anonymous glass buildings.
The square itsellf was in monumental scale, closed by the skyscraper, the kaufhof, and the building with the "graffitis". Moreover this square is the history of berlin, of europe and of the world!!! Was built for the final exhibition of communist parades... don't u think that its a sin to mix it with some "speculative" buildings you can find nowadays everywhere in europe???
i think was a sin to destroy ostbanhof to build an umpteenth glass shopping mall, I think even it's a pity to destroy the former communist parliament next to the Berlin's Cathedral (also if I can uderstand Germans want to rebuilt the historical centre....)
I mean, the cold war it's history too and in my opinion we have to
preserve and protect it, mainly in Berlin that is itself a the synthesis of a century. Also the contrast of west vs east was an "architectural attraction", but it seems now all is mixed up to have an insipid mixture as u can find everywhere in the world
ciao ;)
dklicious. October 16th, 2007, 11:36 PM It sure is personal taste, but I can't quite agree with you.
I, for myself, think that communist structures convey a feeling of emptiness.
Plus they're ugly, matter of fact.
I think the Alexanderplatz needs to be redensificated and highrises need to get built.
Also, the commieblocks, which are eastward of Alexanderplatz, are extremely ugly.
I understand your points. It's important to save historical parts of the city,
but in my opinion communist/socialist buildings don't belong there.
Have you ever been looking at the commieblocks which are exactly near Alexanderplatz?
I can't believe you look upon them as buildings worth preserving.
Picture (http://img.******************/photos/8895566.jpg)
österbottning October 17th, 2007, 02:30 PM Projects Palais Kolle Belle and Upper Eastside (stupid name) look very promising!
AbsolutDistortion October 19th, 2007, 11:47 PM Surely, Berlin's charme is pretty much a result of the fact that it has indeed a lot of places and areas where you are able to ... take a breath, recover a bit from the live in a metropolis.
But... What I can't stand are some of the failed urban plannings undertaken in the 60s and 70s, e.g. the Grunerstraße - whole district had to give way for a simple main street? - or south of Breitscheidtplatz - misplaced tunnel for crosswalk.
For me, parts of Alexanderplatz belong to this category. For instance, the 10 meter broad walkway in the north east; who is supposed to feel comfortable while passing it by? A city is not only designed for architectural photography or communist urban planning supporters: The majority of inhabitants has to be able to feel good living in it.
I can only applaude when they have finished the reconstruction and revision of these areas; luckily, they are already working on it.
And, still, after having finished those works there are still plenty of areas, parks etc. where you can do exactly what I was writing about in the beginning - even more than in most of the major cities of the world.
GNU October 22nd, 2007, 04:45 PM A city is not only designed for architectural photography or communist urban planning supporters: The majority of inhabitants has to be able to feel good living in it.
I fully aggree :)
Another rendering of the wheel:
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00412/rad2_DW_Berlin_Berl_412014j.jpg
Talisker October 25th, 2007, 12:23 AM What's the latest on the Breitscheidplatz plans? Looks very promising
kyler November 3rd, 2007, 03:57 PM wow, I'm fairly amazed at what is going to be built in Berlin. It might not be as much as in other cities but at least it's really good stuff! Especially "3 Leipziger" and that project at Kollwizplatz are really nice, unlike the majority of modern buildings. This is what modern architecture should be like!
The townhouses are pretty nice, too. Good onion, Berlin!! Poor but sexy!
erbse November 10th, 2007, 11:32 PM There's a huge leisure center in the pipeline for Berlin. It's probably going to be called Polaris, due to the indoor ski slope it'll house.
The highest spot will be about 70metres, it'll be 305m long and 65m wide.
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00429/polaris1_b_jpg_DW_B_429223g.jpg
Underneath the ski dome there will be a water park (with an area of about 16'500m²). If the weather's nice (what's a rather seldom case in Berlin ;)) the glass roof can be reversed.
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00429/polaris3_b_jpg_DW_B_429230a.jpg
The Central Plaza will offer some gastronomy and entertainment. It'll sprawl over an area of nearly 27'000m².
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00429/polaris2_b_jpg_DW_B_429229a.jpg
According to the investors there will emerge 800 jobs out of this project.
This 152-million-€uro investment is about to begin.
It's expected to welcome approximately 1.46 million visitors a year in Polaris.
Time for a vacation eh :goodbye:
Frankfurter_Bockwurst November 10th, 2007, 11:40 PM atleast something worth for a trip to berlin :D
erbse November 11th, 2007, 12:05 AM Maybe this also warrants a trip to our capital, for shopping or stuff like that anyway.
'City mansions' ('Stadtvillen' in German, is there any correct English term for this?) at the Falkoniergasse behind the anglo-neogothic Friedrichswerdersche Kirche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrichswerder_Church) (=church) by the Berlin architect Schinkel.
You find an interesting (German) homepage of this project, if u click this link (http://www.falkonier.de/). It offers some renders and sparse informations 'bout this classic project.
Size of the property: 2634 m² (sqm)
Rentable area: 7600 m²
Potential date of move-in: 1st quarter of 2010
A couple of drawings:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4826/berlinfalkoniergasseskipz9.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6353/berlinfalkoniergasseskiod6.jpg
Rendering from the northwest:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5769/09rb2.jpg
A white mansion:
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1763/berlinfalkoniergasseweisc1.jpg
Shopping arcades at the Falkoniergasse (day- and nightview, obviously):
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/1807/05pf1.jpghttp://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4995/04qd0.jpg
Another (newly built) white mansion this project includes:
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3799/berlinfalkoniergasseweiqn3.jpg
I really like that style. Such buildings should be a prototype of Germany's future urban development, besides great (and I mean great, not plain modernistic) modern architecture. Just gotta love classical buildings like that, they add a lot of aesthetics and urbanism to the cityscape :)
goschio November 11th, 2007, 03:52 AM They could have made the outside of Polaris a bit nicer. Looks like the one in the Ruhr area. But I like that the have a modern snow/ice theme rather than the traditional alpine/beergarden one typical for other ski halls.
city_thing November 11th, 2007, 04:16 AM erbsenzaehler, I think the term you're looking for is 'mansionette' -possibly. I'm not too sure either. Maybe we don't have a literal translation for 'city mansion' in English. But from looking at the pictures, I'd probably just use the term 'terrace'.
GNU November 15th, 2007, 04:36 PM New interior ministry:
http://www.morgenpost.de/images/2007/11/15/berlin/143744_scaleUp.jpg
will be completed in 2014
Kampflamm November 16th, 2007, 01:31 AM Looks like a disassembled swastika.
HelloMoto163 November 17th, 2007, 07:15 PM -----
dklicious. November 17th, 2007, 08:22 PM Are you blind? ;)
Look at #126. ^^
HelloMoto163 November 17th, 2007, 09:23 PM lol
i didn´t see that
dklicious. November 17th, 2007, 09:29 PM By the way, new projects.
Proposed Projects:
Friedrichstraße 100:
Boarding Hotel 3*** or 4****
Constructor: HPE HANSEATICA Property GmbH
Rentable area: 20.475 m2
Office space: 13.218 m2
http://berger-parkkinen.com/neues%20material/FRIEDRICHSTRASSE/webbild/BOGEN_%7E1.jpg
http://berger-parkkinen.com/neues%20material/FRIEDRICHSTRASSE/webbild/BHF_20%7E1.jpg
http://berger-parkkinen.com/neues%20material/FRIEDRICHSTRASSE/webbild/OBEN_2%7E1.jpg
Images/Information: berger-parkkinen.com/deutsch/port_friedrichstrasse.html
Federal Intelligence Service
New hq + open park
Headquarters of the BND (FIS). The park is open for everyone.
This is where our top agents can relax from their spying activities. ^^
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/manuel/108_BND_Ansicht.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/manuel/109_BND_Modell.jpg
http://www.morgenpost.de/images/2007/11/16/bezirke/143805_scaleUp.jpg
Government District
Completion of the Marie-Elisabeth-Lüders-Haus
The facts:
- Addition of a glass rotunda, only 15m lower than the Reichstagskuppel
- Start of the completion: 2009, End of construction: 2013
- the building will get a more "representative entrance", says Manfred Thierse, vice president of the Federal Diet
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00437/Lueders_Haus_DW_Ber_437270g.jpg
Under Construction: Updates
Upper Eastside Berlin
Unter den Linden/Friedrichstraße
http://www.baustellenblick.de/admin/reviere_bilder/62/146/1195048253.jpg
http://www.baustellenblick.de/admin/reviere_bilder/62/146/1195048286.jpg
At the EXPO Real Munich:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/schmittchen/uppereastsideberlin.jpg
(c) baustellenblick.de, Mediendatenbank der Messe München International
O²-World Berlin
Part of the Mediaspree project
Teh webcam:
http://www.o2-world.de/img/temp/400_6f28523ccded499412f0cd3ad16d8c26.jpg
10/11/07:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5550/o2worldhq7.jpg
17/11/07:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7060/o2world2ac8.jpg
(c): o2-world.de
Starting soon/Short News:
- Spreedreieck (page 1) pre-construction has started. Construction will start in spring 2008.
- Berlin Wheel pre-construction work has started.
- Viewing point near the BBI Airport opened (30m 'tower')
- Saudi-Arabian embassy finished, needs getting used to in my opinion.
That's all for now.
madridhere November 17th, 2007, 09:43 PM Very interesting arquitecture in Berlin. Thanks for your pix.
GNU November 23rd, 2007, 04:09 PM http://berger-parkkinen.com/neues%20material/FRIEDRICHSTRASSE/webbild/OBEN_2%7E1.jpg
Not really convinced whether thats the right sort of building for that location.
It would probably look better somewhere around the zoo.
I think they should have opted for a more conservative design (stone facade) at the Friedrichstrasse.
UrbanDesigner December 9th, 2007, 08:53 PM What's going on with the old/new Palace for Mitte? Is it going to be rebuilt?
dklicious. December 9th, 2007, 10:03 PM Yep.
Will be finished in 2013 I think.
erbse December 9th, 2007, 10:28 PM You may find some stuff about the city castle here (http://www.berliner-schloss.de/start.php?navID=31&typ=main) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadtschloss%2C_Berlin#Plans_for_reconstruction).
I hope they are going to reconstruct the facades properly, including the distinctive cupola...
http://www.berliner-schloss.de/picupload/20050120105046.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Berlin_Nationaldenkmal_Kaiser_Wilhelm_mit_Schloss_1900.jpg/800px-Berlin_Nationaldenkmal_Kaiser_Wilhelm_mit_Schloss_1900.jpg
UrbanDesigner December 9th, 2007, 10:41 PM Remarkable. Congratulations, Berlin! P.S. I hope people realize how awful aerial bombings were - as an American, I'm sorry my country had any part in the bombing of German cities. (I know...I know...the Nazis bombed the heck out of Warsaw but we should have known better and been better...Vengenance is not an excuse). What was lost was tragic then but all the more tragic for subsequent generations that never had a chance to experience the great accumulation of buildings and cultures represented in European cities. By the way, what do our Berlin friends think of the new Leipziger Platz vs. the former (pre-WW2) version? To me, the new version seems very sterile... Any chance the Wertheim name/stores might return?
GNU December 10th, 2007, 11:15 AM ^^ well the castle, like many other buildings has been blown up after the war.
http://www.kultur-netz.de/kunst/kemlein/sprengung.jpg
During World War II, the Stadtschloss was twice struck by Allied bombs: on 3 February and 24 February 1945. On the latter occasion, when the air defence and fire-fighting systems of Berlin had largely been destroyed, the building was struck by incendiaries, lost its roof and was largely burnt out.
The end of the war saw the Stadtschloss reduced to a blackened shell, although the building was structurally sound and could have been restored, as many other bombed-out buildings in central Berlin were. But the area in which it was located was with the Soviet Union’s zone of occupation, and later in the communist German Democratic Republic. The communists saw the Stadtschloss as a symbol of Prussian militarism, although some parts of the building were repaired and used from 1945 to 1950 as an exhibition space. Between September and December 1950, therefore, the building was demolished, with only the balcony from which Liebknecht had declared the German Socialist Republic being preserved. The empty space was used as a parade ground.
What will happen to the Liebknecht balcony btw? They have no plans for reincorporating it into the new castle do they?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Berlin_staatsratsgebaeude_schlossportal.jpg/799px-Berlin_staatsratsgebaeude_schlossportal.jpg
Darryl January 13th, 2008, 11:12 PM OK Berliners, I'm itching for some updates! :) The last decent update was on 11/17 by dklicious (thanks!). It's been two months since then and the holidays are over. The people outside of Germany want to know how things are going in Berlin.
I've seen the progress that I could through webcams, ie. O2 World, the Pariser Platz U Bahn station, etc... but I rely on you guys for updates on projects that don't have webcams. I come to this forum because it is in English.
I'm particularly interested in:
-The new American Embassy. You can search the web extensively and you will not find ANYTHING current on this project. It's like it is protected in secrecy. I know it's supposed to open this spring, but I'd love to see a pic of how it looks right now. Does it actually look like a finished building now from the outside? Is the lovely park w/fountain back in place in front of it? Does Pariser Platz FINALLY look visually "complete"?
-The East Side Gallery. I saw it 2 years ago and it looked horrible! I think it would be such a crime to let it just deteriorate. Are there concrete plans to restore it? If so, when? If not, tell Berlin to wake up and restore the one thing everyone wants to see when they visit Berlin! :bash:
-The Berlin Wheel. Construction was supposed to begin in October. Did that actually happen? Has this project been put on hold?
trooper January 14th, 2008, 12:07 AM Adlershof
HQ of Solon AG u/c now
http://www.solonag.com/download/images/SOLON_Adlershof_02.jpg
http://www.berlinews.de/archiv-bilder/solon_neubau.jpeg
clyde built January 14th, 2008, 02:05 AM I love Berlin its the best city I have been to in Europe and I have just discovered this English section about Berlin on SSC. I am a joiner and work in construction I think I might have to get myself over there and enjoy the city and help build some of this cool stuff. You have some really great projects on the go and thanks to all you Berliners for keeping us non German Speakers up to date.
Justme January 15th, 2008, 08:34 AM OK Berliners, I'm itching for some updates! :) The last decent update was on 11/17 by dklicious (thanks!). It's been two months since then and the holidays are over. The people outside of Germany want to know how things are going in Berlin.
I've seen the progress that I could through webcams, ie. O2 World, the Pariser Platz U Bahn station, etc... but I rely on you guys for updates on projects that don't have webcams. I come to this forum because it is in English.
I'm particularly interested in:
-The new American Embassy. You can search the web extensively and you will not find ANYTHING current on this project. It's like it is protected in secrecy. I know it's supposed to open this spring, but I'd love to see a pic of how it looks right now. Does it actually look like a finished building now from the outside? Is the lovely park w/fountain back in place in front of it? Does Pariser Platz FINALLY look visually "complete"?
-The East Side Gallery. I saw it 2 years ago and it looked horrible! I think it would be such a crime to let it just deteriorate. Are there concrete plans to restore it? If so, when? If not, tell Berlin to wake up and restore the one thing everyone wants to see when they visit Berlin! :bash:
-The Berlin Wheel. Construction was supposed to begin in October. Did that actually happen? Has this project been put on hold?
Loads of stuff over here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=3280974#post3280974
Darryl January 17th, 2008, 02:24 AM Loads of stuff over here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=3280974#post3280974
Thanks. That thread is pretty good. I've never heard of skyscraperpage. It looks like it's related to skyscrapercity??
What's wrong with ssc? It seems any English discussions about Berlin are just totally dead anymore.
There is regular discussion in German Berlin threads on here, but it's no pics and seems to be all inside jokes and not much on buildings and projects. I do speak some German.
If I put a question on here though it's pointless. Seems no one looks here.
OliverChettle January 17th, 2008, 03:41 AM Remarkable. Congratulations, Berlin! P.S. I hope people realize how awful aerial bombings were - as an American, I'm sorry my country had any part in the bombing of German cities. (I know...I know...the Nazis bombed the heck out of Warsaw but we should have known better and been better...Vengenance is not an excuse). What was lost was tragic then but all the more tragic for subsequent generations that never had a chance to experience the great accumulation of buildings and cultures represented in European cities. By the way, what do our Berlin friends think of the new Leipziger Platz vs. the former (pre-WW2) version? To me, the new version seems very sterile... Any chance the Wertheim name/stores might return?
So presumably you would have fought the war in a way that would have led to the Final Solution coming closer to success, to higher casualties on the Allied side, to higher casualties among civilians in the theatre of war (because the Germans would have had more weapons), and to Soviet occupation of a greater portion of Europe? You should also remember that the Allied leaders were aware of the Nazi nuclear programme, and if the Hitler had got the bomb first, every democracy in the world would have fallen, including the United States. Please don't pontificate about those terrible times from the comfort of Middle America in 2008.
Dallasbrink January 17th, 2008, 07:23 AM I saw Berlin on Anthony Bourbains No Reservation....I need to go back and spend 2 weeks there this time. All that food...mmmmmm
Justme January 17th, 2008, 08:16 AM Thanks. That thread is pretty good. I've never heard of skyscraperpage. It looks like it's related to skyscrapercity??
What's wrong with ssc? It seems any English discussions about Berlin are just totally dead anymore.
There is regular discussion in German Berlin threads on here, but it's no pics and seems to be all inside jokes and not much on buildings and projects. I do speak some German.
If I put a question on here though it's pointless. Seems no one looks here.
Skyscraperpage is simply a rival, friendly competitor to Skyscrapercity. Both are good but the main difference is that SSP has a more North American slant, whilst SSC is more global. Which is rather odd that the best Berlin construction thread is over at SSP.
Darryl January 19th, 2008, 08:42 PM :wtf: Helloooooo?....... anybody home? I'm not gonna let this go. :) Why is this site so dead when it comes to Berlin?
Man, other cities on here have OVER-information. Especially South American cities, Paris, Toronto, Istanbul, etc.... I guess people here just don't like Berlin cuz it doesn't have skyscrapers?? :dunno:
city_thing January 20th, 2008, 11:04 AM Toronto has so many threads, but seems to be the most boring city on Earth.
Berlin is far more interesting :)
Please don't let this thread die.
Kampflamm January 20th, 2008, 04:23 PM There's simply nothing big going on in Berlin. Hardly surprising considering that the city's run by a Socialist/Communist alliance.
Tiaren January 21st, 2008, 02:29 AM There's simply nothing big going on in Berlin. Hardly surprising considering that the city's run by a Socialist/Communist alliance.
Huh? As if the reconstruction of the city castle, the new international airport, and the giant wheel weren't big enough...
Kampflamm January 21st, 2008, 02:01 PM 2 of those things aren't even under construction yet. Besides, compared to other major cities that's laughable. Even here in Cologne we probably have more construction going on.
Justme January 21st, 2008, 04:47 PM ^^^ Hmmm, I really don't agree with you there. They also had a new mall open in Alexaderplatz. a giant inner city mall is something that should be considered large. A smaller mall recently completed near Zoo area (couple of U-bahn stops away) and I read somewhere of a third mall. That is more new shopping centers in the last two years than any other city in Germany I know of.
The airport project is massive, the Palast der Republik is pretty big, the recent new Hauptbahnhof (largest railway station project in Germany), the planned Mediaspree area, planned O² world, and loads of other projects.
Somehow I think there is more going on, and more planned than Cologne.
GNU January 21st, 2008, 05:04 PM planned O² world, and loads of other projects.
The O2 world is already uc since a while:
http://www.o2world.de/img/temp/400_118e84786268c81ec492d60b07cf375d.jpg
http://panterra.tv/aysprojekt/o2world%20Cam%2001/webpics/o2world1.jpg
Darryl January 26th, 2008, 12:39 AM -The new American Embassy. You can search the web extensively and you will not find ANYTHING current on this project. It's like it is protected in secrecy. I know it's supposed to open this spring, but I'd love to see a pic of how it looks right now. Does it actually look like a finished building now from the outside? Is the lovely park w/fountain back in place in front of it? Does Pariser Platz FINALLY look visually "complete"?
-The East Side Gallery. I saw it 2 years ago and it looked horrible! I think it would be such a crime to let it just deteriorate. Are there concrete plans to restore it? If so, when? If not, tell Berlin to wake up and restore the one thing everyone wants to see when they visit Berlin! :bash:
-The Berlin Wheel. Construction was supposed to begin in October. Did that actually happen? Has this project been put on hold?
Sorry for being a pain, but I'm gonna keep trying. Surely there must be someone somewhere on this site that lives in Berlin that can simply give a yes or no answer to these three simple questions!!
:dunno:
beta29 January 26th, 2008, 08:02 PM Sorry for being a pain, but I'm gonna keep trying. Surely there must be someone somewhere on this site that lives in Berlin that can simply give a yes or no answer to these three simple questions!!
:dunno:
Sorry, there are less people from berlin here and I just don´t have so much time to give answers:
Here is a link where you ca see the american embassie.....looks like a commie:ohno:
open and scroll down:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4060&page=2
beta29 January 26th, 2008, 08:04 PM 2. Yes there are plans to restore the East side Gallery......but sorry....i dont know when
beta29 January 26th, 2008, 08:10 PM 3. Don´t know about the wheel. It has been stopped because the people from the so called "Wirtschaftshof"(I think there´s a university next to it too) don´t agree that the wheel will be built so near to the building.....
Hope construction will go on....
dklicious. January 26th, 2008, 08:14 PM If no one else is going to post an update post, I'm gonna do it on the 10th/11th of February.
A lot of people are busy at the moment, I guess. :)
The American Embassy is kind of a disappointment for some.
But let's not evaluate the building before construction work is going to be finished.
Pictures:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8486/cimg3752editedbe8.jpg
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2292/cimg3736editedls0.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1209/cimg3754editedfz0.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8259/cimg3737editedjb7.jpg
Pictures: Ben (www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de)
I don't think there are any plans for the East Side Gallery.
What do you want to see restored? Any images of what you mean exactly?
As for the Berlin Wheel: The ground-breaking ceremony was celebrated on Dec 03, 2007.
I don't live in Berlin and there are no web cams at all but I think construction work has started.
Edit: Lol, beta was first. ;)
Anyway, I'm not 100% sure about the East Side Gallery and the Wheel. But I think the Wheel will definitely be built.
GeneratorNL January 26th, 2008, 10:40 PM I'm currently living and working in Berlin, and will be for the next 3 weeks. I've made a lot of construction photo's in the last few days, but unfortunately I will not be able to upload the pics from my hotel here in Berlin. So you all will have to wait to see the pics untill I'm back in the Netherlands (which will be the 16th of February). I took pictures from well-known projects like the American Ambessy and the demolishion of the Pallast der Republik, but also from little-known residential projects in the eastern part of Berlin.
The backside of the American Ambessy (the side of the Jewish Memorial) looks very disappointing to me (I haven't walked past the front side of the building though).
If anyone has requests for pictures of building projects in Berlin, please let me know and I will try to go there. But as I said, I will not be able to post them until the 16th of February.
Darryl January 26th, 2008, 11:26 PM Thanks you guys! Sorry for being a whiny pain in the ass. Other cities just have much more active posters here on SSC than Berlin does. I'm from Baltimore and the Baltimore posters here on SSC are so active that I think I've been spoiled by that. :)
1. The US Embassy: Thanks for the pics! I don't think it looks that bad.
2. The East Side Gallery: This is something that completely perplexes me! I simply cannot understand why Berlin does not seem to notice the state of disrepair it's in, or the importance of getting it restored ASAP. Let me tell you something as a foreigner myself, when people around the world who are not from Germany think of Berlin, they think of the Berlin Wall. When they come to Berlin, guaranteed they will be looking for the Berlin Wall. It also perplexes me that dklicious just asked me what exactly I mean as if he/she doesn't see what is wrong with it! Have you been there?? I was there in Sept. 2006 and it looks like crap! It is crumbling, the paint is coming off, there is graffiti all over it, you can barely see some of the paintings, it looks like something in the worst and most neglected neighborhood of Detroit, need I go on? It's embarrassing. The last I heard, which I think was a year ago, was that there was a group pushing to have it restored but Berlin couldn't afford it. How expensive can restoring a concrete wall be??!! The article said that restoration would mean removing the coroded outer layer, getting all the original artists back to redo their paintings, and I think putting some kind of protective coating on it. Isn't the cost of this worth it??? It's like Paris not taking care of the Eiffel Tower, or New York letting the Statue of Liberty fall into disrepair. I would say even pay guards to watch over it 24/7 to discourage vandals. Whatever it takes.
3. The Berlin Wheel: That sucks that it is not going forward.
dklicious. January 28th, 2008, 04:43 PM Darryl,
it's been a while since I've been there the last time.
You're right about the deadbeat condition of the East Side Gallery.
I agree on the opinion that the Berlin Wall needs some decent restoration process.
You just gotta know that Berlin is poor as.. :(
Anyway, there is an article from 28/07/07, which basically says the following things:
- Berlin's senate approved 1,3 million € for the inside renovation
- old artists, which painted the majority of the East Side Gallery, are probably going
to repaint the wall, but the costs for those artists will be approx. 2 million € more.
- there is no investor for those 2 million €, so the project is going to need more donations
- the area is part of the Mediaspree project, the wall shall adjoin to a park and a new promenade
Link to the article [German] (http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/Kunst;art270,2348011)
Darryl January 28th, 2008, 05:12 PM Darryl,
it's been a while since I've been there the last time.
You're right about the deadbeat condition of the East Side Gallery.
I agree on the opinion that the Berlin Wall needs some decent restoration process.
You just gotta know that Berlin is poor as.. :(
Anyway, there is an article from 28/07/07, which basically says the following things:
- Berlin's senate approved 1,3 million € for the inside renovation
- old artists, which painted the majority of the East Side Gallery, are probably going
to repaint the wall, but the costs for those artists will be approx. 2 million € more.
- there is no investor for those 2 million €, so the project is going to need more donations
- the area is part of the Mediaspree project, the wall shall adjoin to a park and a new promenade
Link to the article [German] (http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/Kunst;art270,2348011)
No offense meant personally to you dklicious. Vielen Dank for the article! :)
Justme January 29th, 2008, 01:20 AM 2. The East Side Gallery: This is something that completely perplexes me! I simply cannot understand why Berlin does not seem to notice the state of disrepair it's in, or the importance of getting it restored ASAP. Let me tell you something as a foreigner myself, when people around the world who are not from Germany think of Berlin, they think of the Berlin Wall. When they come to Berlin, guaranteed they will be looking for the Berlin Wall. It also perplexes me that dklicious just asked me what exactly I mean as if he/she doesn't see what is wrong with it! Have you been there?? I was there in Sept. 2006 and it looks like crap! It is crumbling, the paint is coming off, there is graffiti all over it, you can barely see some of the paintings, it looks like something in the worst and most neglected neighborhood of Detroit, need I go on? It's embarrassing. The last I heard, which I think was a year ago, was that there was a group pushing to have it restored but Berlin couldn't afford it. How expensive can restoring a concrete wall be??!! The article said that restoration would mean removing the coroded outer layer, getting all the original artists back to redo their paintings, and I think putting some kind of protective coating on it. Isn't the cost of this worth it??? It's like Paris not taking care of the Eiffel Tower, or New York letting the Statue of Liberty fall into disrepair. I would say even pay guards to watch over it 24/7 to discourage vandals. Whatever it takes.
That's a very good point. You know, I think many Germans are quite happy with it in a terrible state. One thing I noticed about Germans is that many don't seem to be too bothered by graffiti. It's a weird thought, but I really believe it's true.
Anyway, I hope something is done about it because it is in a terrible state.
Unionstation13 February 3rd, 2008, 04:53 AM Wow, thats alot of ugly buildings. It reminds me of the structures from the 60's and 70's. They lack aesthetic design. Why not design more classic structures with touches of modern instead of building glass boxes? Are there any reconstructions going on in Berlin?
Andre_Filipe February 3rd, 2008, 06:40 PM I don't understand, are you rebuilding the city castle?
GNU February 9th, 2008, 02:29 PM The construction site of the Spreedreieck:
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/storage/pic/nomc/intern/berlin/199964_1_spreedreieck.JPG
For people who can understand german:
Wohnungsgesellschaft lässt Stuck zertrümmern
Die Zeit, in der Stuck von Berliner Häusern geschlagen wurde, ist eigentlich vorbei. Doch in Schöneberg liegen Mieter mit der kommunale Wohnungsbaugesellschaft in Berlin (WIR) im Rechtsstreit, weil die WIR ein Haus entstucken will. Im April ist Verhandlungsbeginn – aber seit Dienstag wird wieder Stuck abgerissen.
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00504/sh_stuck_BM_Berlin__504994g.jpg
Alt und neu: So wie hier im Prenzlauer Berg wünschen sie viele Berliner die Sanierung alter Häuser.
Der Lärm ist ohrenbetäubend. Als Heinz Jirout aus der Tür des eingerüsteten Mietshauses an der Schöneberger Zietenstraße tritt, fallen keine zwei Meter neben ihm große Brocken Stuck auf den abgesperrten Bürgersteig. Eine riesige Staubwolke umweht Jirout, der fassungslos den Arbeitern auf dem Baugerüst zuschaut, wie sie mit ihren Pressluftmeißeln die letzten noch verbliebenen Stuckteile von der einst prachtvoll verzierten Fassade des um 1900 erbauten Hauses schlagen.
"Das ist eine ganz große Sauerei“, sagt Heinz Jirout. "Mir ist vollkommen unverständlich, wie man mit dem wertvollen kulturellen Erbe so umgehen kann“. Der Zorn des Architekten, der seit 1990 in der Zietenstraße Nummer 15 lebt, richtetet sich gegen den Hauseigentümer: Die kommunale Wohnungsbaugesellschaft in Berlin (WIR), ein Tochterunternehmen der Gewobag. Der Ärger der Mieter in den Häusern Zietenstraße 15 und 17 begann im Frühling 2007, als vor den Fenstern der Bewohner ein Baugerüst aufgestellt wurde. "Wir konnten uns nicht erklären, was hier vorgeht“, sagt Heinz Jirout. Als in der benachbarten Schwerinstraße an einem ebenfalls der WIR gehörenden Gebäude die Stuckfassade abgeschlagen wurde, schrillten bei den Mietern in der Zietenstraße die Alarmglocken.
"Damals hatten wir das Gespräch mit der WIR gesucht. Uns wurde erklärt, dass sich die Fassade unseres Hauses in einem irreparabel schlechten Zustand befände“, so Jirout. Da der auf Altbausanierung spezialisierte Architekt die Darstellung der Wohnungsbaugesellschaft anzweifelte, überlegte Jirout zusammen mit den anderen Hausbewohnern, was sie zur Rettung ihrer Fassade unternehmen könnten. Die Mieter entschlossen sich, einen Rechtsanwalt zu beauftragen. Der erwirkte wenig später eine einstweilige Verfügung gegen die Entfernung des Stucks vor dem Amtsgericht Schöneberg. Die WIR wollte diese Entscheidung des Gerichts jedoch nicht anerkennen und legte im August Einspruch gegen das Urteil ein. Im April soll es nun zur Verhandlung vor dem Landgericht kommen.
Die Baustadträtin ist entsetzt aber machtlos
"Seitdem war Stille“, erinnert sich Heinz Jirout. Doch seit zwei Wochen wird am Gerüst wieder gearbeitet. Jirout und die anderen Mieter ahnten nichts Gutes. Als der 46-Jährige am vergangenen Dienstagnachmittag seine Wohnung betrat seien plötzlich die Fenster zugenagelt gewesen "und die Bude war dunkel“, so Jirout. Seitdem meißeln die Bauarbeiter kräftig. Die Fassade ist bereits fast vollständig ihrer Zierde beraubt. "Die wollten vor der Gerichtsverhandlung wohl Tatsachen schaffen“ glaubt der gebürtige Wiener: "Was weg ist, ist weg.“ Dieser Einschätzung widerspricht der Sprecher der Gewobag, Volker Hartig: "Da wir eine Vorwegnahme des Gerichtsverfahrens vermeiden wollten, haben wir zuvor die einzelnen Stuckteile abgeformt, um eine spätere Rekonstruktion zu ermöglichen, falls das Gericht gegen uns entscheiden sollte“. Das Urteil habe jedoch nicht abgewartet werden können, da ein längeres Stehenlassen des Baugerüsts die Wohnqualität der Mieter erheblich gemindert hätte. "Bevor wir das Gerüst abbauen, müssen wir aber die schadhafte Stuckfassade entfernen. Denn die Sicherheit der Mieter und Besucher hat für uns allerhöchste Priorität“, so Hartig. Ein Gutachten habe ergeben, dass die Fassade eine "Gefahr für die Verkehrssicherheit“ darstelle.
Stadträtin Sibyll Klotz (Grüne), die Baustadtrat Bernd Krömer (CDU) vertritt, zeigte sich "entsetzt“ über die Arbeiten, gegen die sie "keine rechtliche Handhabe“ besitze. Sie hoffe jedoch, dass sich die WIR an eine im vergangenen Jahr mit dem Bezirk getroffene Verabredung hält. "Die Vereinbarung war, wenn Stuck noch einmal entfernt werden sollte, muss er wiederhergestellt werden“. Ob die WIR dieser Forderung im vollen Umfang nachkommen muss, wird das Gericht entscheiden.
:mad: :mad2:
Kampflamm February 9th, 2008, 02:41 PM Screw them for removing the ornaments. Houses just look crappy w/o them.
Kampflamm February 9th, 2008, 02:42 PM A project near the Hackesche Höfe
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa170/Slache/hackqberlineinzelgebkg5.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa170/Slache/hackqberlinneuemitteuf4.jpg
Patrick February 9th, 2008, 04:01 PM http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00504/sh_stuck_BM_Berlin__504994g.jpg
great example of how plain ugly an empty facade looks compared to an ornamented one
GNU February 9th, 2008, 04:19 PM http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00504/sh_stuck_BM_Berlin__504994g.jpg
great example of how plain ugly an empty facade looks compared to an ornamented one
Theyre both ornamented.
This is what happens when you take off the Stuck:
http://www.frankeimer.de/Modersohn%20Hellmig%20007.jpg
Kampflamm February 9th, 2008, 05:19 PM The pink house looks to be partially entstuckt though.
Patrick February 10th, 2008, 03:17 AM that is what i meant, the upper right corner of the pink house is so empty, the color only changes a minimum (it can be worse, grey i.g.), compared to the lower left corner on the same building.
dklicious. February 10th, 2008, 08:07 PM Removing such ornaments from old buildings is a crime against humanity. :ohno:
Unionstation13 February 11th, 2008, 10:02 PM they should restore them both to their former glory!
dklicious. February 16th, 2008, 04:16 PM Massive update coming along! :)
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6244/88429454ck1.png
O² World
Part of the Mediaspree project
Click this link for images (http://www.o2-world.de/cms/multimedia/bilder.htm)
Then click on 'Baustellenfotos 18.01.08'.
Click here for renders of the finished project. (http://www.o2-world.de/cms/bilder/impressionen.htm)
Aussenansichten = exterior view, Innenansichten = interior view
Upper East Side Berlin
Unter den Linden/Friedrichstraße
This bulding gives the Friedrichstraße an even more urban look.
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/jo-king/Mitte/CIMG3060.JPG
(c) Jo-King (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/member.php?u=721) 2008
Webcam:
http://www.panterra.tv/projekt4/meag_udl_baustelle.jpg
Rendering:
http://www.uppereastsideberlin.de/fakten/art/img_ueb.jpg
die mitte
Alexanderplatz
Webcam:
http://www.panterratv.de/a3/wp/lbb/lbb01.jpg
Rendering:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/jo-king/Projekte/diemitte1.jpg
(c) Jo-King (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/member.php?u=721) 2008
Jacob- und Wilhelm-Grimm-Zentrum
Library of the Humboldt university
Construction status:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/jo-king/Mitte/CIMG3068.JPG
(c) Jo-King (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/member.php?u=721) 2008
Rendering:
http://www.baunetz.de/upload/79083bz.jpeghttp://www.baunetz.de/upload/79083cz.jpeg
(c) baunetz.de
Old government district
gmp building and ministry for environment
Rendering gmp bulding:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7946/ebe2ccd12akk9.jpg
Construction status (September 07):
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/jo-king/September2007/CIMG2623.JPG
(c) Jo-King (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/member.php?u=721) 2007
Rendering ministry for environment:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/jo-king/September2007/CIMG2597.JPG
(c) Jo-King (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/member.php?u=721) 2007
Construction status (September 07):
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/jo-king/September2007/CIMG2601.JPG
(c) Jo-King (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/member.php?u=721) 2008
Berlin townhouses
Construction status (28/01/08) (http://www.berlin-townhouses.de/uploads/images/1201189011_Kirche_23.01.08.JPG)
Official Site (http://www.berlin-townhouses.de)
+New building, hotel school Berlin:
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/aktuell/wettbewerbe/ergebnisse/2008/hotelfachschule/pix/1_preis_strasse_800.jpg
Fehrbelliner
Appartments, Lofts, Flats
Now under construction. Aaaaaaaaawesome project! :D
Renderings/Impressions:
http://www.fehrbelliner.de/data/fotogalerie/0ce2bc76-dd93-40a6-9ae6-d89d27154228/images/220x526/image01.jpghttp://www.fehrbelliner.de/data/fotogalerie/0ce2bc76-dd93-40a6-9ae6-d89d27154228/images/220x526/image02.jpg
http://www.fehrbelliner.de/data/fotogalerie/0ce2bc76-dd93-40a6-9ae6-d89d27154228/images/220x526/image04.jpghttp://www.fehrbelliner.de/data/fotogalerie/0ce2bc76-dd93-40a6-9ae6-d89d27154228/images/220x526/image06.jpg
(c) fehrbelliner.de
Palais Kolle Belle
Appartments, Lofts, Flats
Great project as well. Love those two (Fehrbelliner and Palais Kolle Belle).
Webcam:
http://www.kollebelle.de/webcam/smalls/2008-02-16-12-10_s.jpg
Sketches:
http://www.kollebelle.de/img/architektur_1_big.jpg
http://www.kollebelle.de/img/architektur_3_big.jpghttp://www.kollebelle.de/img/architektur_7_big.jpg
More of this, please. ;)
Parkquartier Chausseestraße
Construction work has started a few days ago.
http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn57778vt.jpg
Other projects currently U/C
BBI Airport
Rossi Ruin
Spreedreieck
But all of them should be known to you (already posted in this thread).
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7352/52842453cd4.png
Max Reinhardt Haus
,Am Zirkus'
Different renderings, but this seems to be the current one.
Construction will start in autumn 2008.
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00501/sei_starck_haus_DW__501632j.jpg
Hackesches Quartier
Hackescher Markt Süd
Renderings:
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5587/hackqberlineinzelgebkg5.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6814/hackqberlinneuemitteuf4.jpg
(c) IVG Development GmbH
Zoofenster
Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf
This project has been pushed around for almost 15 years now.
Finally, this time with an investor from Dubai, construction work shall begin in 2008.
This month the investor wants to present his plans with the building.
Height: 118 meters
No one knows if this is still the current rendering, but maybe there will be
a new design for this project. Let's wait until the End of February and see what will happen.
http://www.chm.de/de/img_pro/zoof_01_gross.jpg
Atlas Tower
Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf
Basically the same with the Atlas Tower.
Height: 118 meters as well.
Construction work shall also begin in 2008.
http://www.ds-plan.com/german/img/Leistungen/0089_rdax_100.jpg
Atlas Tower on the left, Zoofenster on the right side.
The Cube
Berlin-Hauptbahnhof (central station)
New Deutsche Bahn headquarters.
Renderings:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9854/img2343dw8.jpghttp://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3494/img2345gz3.jpg
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9661/img2359do6.jpghttp://img240.imageshack.us/img240/7267/img2363bk5.jpg
All Images (c) Vivico Real Estate
Scandic Hotel
Potsdamer Platz
Renderings:
http://www.schaumanngroup.com/Media/1030_149.jpghttp://www.schaumanngroup.com/Media/1030_148.jpg
http://www.schaumanngroup.com/Media/1030_153.jpghttp://www.schaumanngroup.com/Media/1030_152.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5421/33313947nr9.png
Quartier am Tacheles
Omg please build this one. :nuts:
Totally awesome project imo.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6056/dpzetacarial7ysg4.jpg
Possible Bombardier headquarters
Eike Becker Architekten
- building application submitted
- height: 120 meters
Renderings:
http://www.eikebeckerarchitekten.com/img/upload/arch/buero/4-2-2-1_bombardier.jpg
http://www.eikebeckerarchitekten.com/img/upload/arch/buero/4-2-2_bombadier-city.jpg
(c) Eike Becker Architekten
Trumpet Tower (mini skyscraper)
Alexanderplatz
- chances of realization obviously less than zero :lol:
Renderings:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9269/grafik2jo7.jpghttp://img503.imageshack.us/img503/4050/grafik3yn3.jpghttp://img132.imageshack.us/img132/286/grafik4jk8.jpg
EszettRocks February 16th, 2008, 04:35 PM I really don't understand that boxy Alexanderplatz thing under construction.
Smallville February 16th, 2008, 05:27 PM It is amazing what you guys are building in Berlin. Restoring the older buildings as well as building new sleek towers. Berlin looks great and will continue to get better.
ZZ-II February 17th, 2008, 04:03 PM awesome update! hopefully they'll build the bombardier HQ tower, it looks great :)
Darryl February 17th, 2008, 08:03 PM :applause:
Great update dklicious! Thanks. :)
beta29 February 18th, 2008, 05:30 PM Thanks for this grat update:)
Please don´t forget to vote for berlin here:
http://www.monopolyworldvote.com
GNU March 24th, 2008, 11:37 PM Leipziger Platz Now:
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00531/leipzigerplatz_brac_531774j.jpg
Renderings:
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00531/leipzigerplatz02_DW_531771j.jpg
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00531/leipzigerplatz_DW_B_531770j.jpg
Darryl May 5th, 2008, 04:52 AM Any updates on Berlin projects? Is the American Embassy finished?
dklicious. May 5th, 2008, 03:08 PM Hey Darryl,
I made photos of around 15 projects when I was in Berlin in March 2008. New ones will follow in June. At the moment, I'm doing my Abitur examinations (adequate to the high school diploma). Although I realize that this may be too long for you. How about looking here (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=165)? Despite being in German, this board may help you to obtain current information on the most significant projects in Berlin.
As I casually mentioned before, I'm going to update this thread in about one month. Until then, there is plenty of information on the page I linked to.
Regarding the U.S. Embassy, I also made photos of it in March. Basically, it's finished.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4493/30co0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30co0.jpg)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6836/31qi8.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31qi8.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9520/32qw3.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32qw3.jpg)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1761/33kv5.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33kv5.jpg)
(c) dklicious.
GNU May 5th, 2008, 04:51 PM O2-World
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3119/2443631122_9d775d1271_o.jpg
Schimmelpfeng Haus
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/planen/staedtebau-projekte/breitscheidplatz/pix/casia_nahwirkg_450x675.jpg
Zoofenster (soon uc)
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/planen/staedtebau-projekte/breitscheidplatz/pix/zoofenster_030512_379x650.jpg
ZZ-II May 5th, 2008, 07:53 PM what's the status of the Schimmelpfeng highrise?
zoviet May 5th, 2008, 08:57 PM what's the status of the Schimmelpfeng highrise?
Yep, im asking too. I think it could be my favorite tower in EU, looks impressive in this render.:cheers:
GNU May 5th, 2008, 09:20 PM what's the status of the Schimmelpfeng highrise?
The chances are not bad that itll get realized:
In ähnlichen finanziellen Dimensionen wird sich auch das Bauvorhaben auf dem benachbarten Areal bewegen. Die Casia Immobilien Management plant dort den Bau eines etwa 120 Meter hohen Hotels; die Abrissgenehmigung für das Schimmelpfeng-Haus hat Geschäftsführer Ekkehard Liebig bereits in der Tasche.
http://www.welt.de/berlin/article1733819/Wie_Scheichs_die_City_West_umkrempeln_wollen.html
Darryl May 5th, 2008, 10:57 PM Hey Darryl,
I made photos of around 15 projects when I was in Berlin in March 2008. New ones will follow in June. At the moment, I'm doing my Abitur examinations (adequate to the high school diploma). Although I realize that this may be too long for you. How about looking here (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=165)? Despite being in German, this board may help you to obtain current information on the most significant projects in Berlin.
As I casually mentioned before, I'm going to update this thread in about one month. Until then, there is plenty of information on the page I linked to.
Regarding the U.S. Embassy, I also made photos of it in March. Basically, it's finished.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4493/30co0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30co0.jpg)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6836/31qi8.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31qi8.jpg)http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9520/32qw3.th.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32qw3.jpg)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1761/33kv5.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33kv5.jpg)
(c) dklicious.
Thanks dklicious! Yes, your last update was great! Good luck on your Abitur!
ZZ-II May 6th, 2008, 08:04 PM The chances are not bad that itll get realized:
In ähnlichen finanziellen Dimensionen wird sich auch das Bauvorhaben auf dem benachbarten Areal bewegen. Die Casia Immobilien Management plant dort den Bau eines etwa 120 Meter hohen Hotels; die Abrissgenehmigung für das Schimmelpfeng-Haus hat Geschäftsführer Ekkehard Liebig bereits in der Tasche.
http://www.welt.de/berlin/article1733819/Wie_Scheichs_die_City_West_umkrempeln_wollen.html
cool, that lets hope :)
Ni3lS May 9th, 2008, 11:42 PM Many things going on in Berlin. Like it :)
necrophagist May 28th, 2008, 10:30 AM Zoofenster (soon uc)
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/planen/staedtebau-projekte/breitscheidplatz/pix/zoofenster_030512_379x650.jpg
I really disgust this design. I hope there will be a re-design once the tower is being build (whenever that may be)
necrophagist May 28th, 2008, 10:44 AM a nice project: Spree-Dreieck
- official page:
http://www.spreedreieck.de/
http://i27.tinypic.com/o05tag.jpg
http://i25.tinypic.com/scfhb7.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/n3nrfb.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/2m6r8co.jpg
GNU May 28th, 2008, 03:00 PM ^^ interesting. Had no idea they had a site running for that project.
necrophagist May 28th, 2008, 04:14 PM its a pity they dont build the highrise version of it. I really like the curvy design
necrophagist May 28th, 2008, 04:29 PM a smaller project, near Potsdamer Platz... center for medical/life sciences... seems to be made for presentational purposes
http://www.kompetenzzentrum-medizintechnik.de/
http://i32.tinypic.com/sbsqyv.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/242ycxs.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/34i4l1i.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/30mwmt3.jpg
necrophagist May 28th, 2008, 05:09 PM Die Mitte
location: Alexanderplatz
info: http://www.diemitte.info/
http://i29.tinypic.com/2hri9sx.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/svjckz.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/2cffuxd.jpg
Kampflamm June 1st, 2008, 02:57 PM US embassy almost finished
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/2536351622_5c8b28caae_b.jpg
Kame June 1st, 2008, 03:39 PM Nice photo.
But US embassy still sucks. Poor Brandenburg Gate.
skyboi June 1st, 2008, 03:55 PM ^ Exactly the fotos is so vivid even with my cheap laptop I could see it nicely :) btw I am looking forward to see the schimmelp feng haus building to be in Berlin picture in the future
erbse June 1st, 2008, 11:17 PM "Otto Bock Medizin-Technik Kompetenzzentrum"
a smaller project, near Potsdamer Platz... center for medical/life sciences... seems to be made for presentational purposes
http://www.kompetenzzentrum-medizintechnik.de/
Some renders (taken from Otto Bock homepage (http://www.ottobock.de)):
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/480/190ottobockzentrumxsgq9.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1447/191ottobockzentrumxskd6.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3792/192ottobockzentrumxsfj0.jpg
Should be completed in spring 2009.
Justme June 3rd, 2008, 12:31 AM Hmmm, I bet the Americans will want half that plaza closed off for security reasons when they open their embassy
Kaiser June 19th, 2008, 07:48 AM Awesome Thread!
Berlin is indeed sexy!;)
WestTexan87 June 19th, 2008, 10:15 AM I just visited Berlin for the first time. I was VERY disappointed.
And in my opinion, the US embassy looks nice. It doesn't throw your gaze off of the gate at all.
World 2 World June 19th, 2008, 10:41 AM Wow Berlin:banana:
I was there last month and i luv the city so much. Especially the architectures, the old buildings blend perfectly with the new..
Go Berlin!!! I'll be back soon:banana:
Justme June 19th, 2008, 10:53 AM I just visited Berlin for the first time. I was VERY disappointed.
I'm interested in your opinion. Please give some more details at what you found dissapointing. I know it's not a beautiful city, but I do find it a very interesting one.
Darryl June 19th, 2008, 05:34 PM I'm interested in your opinion. Please give some more details at what you found dissapointing. I know it's not a beautiful city, but I do find it a very interesting one.
You took the words right out of my mouth. You just don't come on here and say "Berlin was VERY dissappointing" and then not explain. That's called trolling.
WestTexan87- Explain please?
One thing I don't really agree with though is this comment I keep seeing people making all the time about Berlin not being beautiful. While it certainly has it's ugly buildings/areas, there are also very beautiful areas in Berlin. I challenge anyone to walk Unter den Linden or the Kurfurstendamm or the Gendarmenmarkt (only three examples of many) and say Berlin is ugly. I know these are tourist areas, but they aren't just 2 buildings either, they are large areas. There are also many non-touristy residential areas in Berlin that are very beautiful. Every city has run down buildings and graffiti, etc... Maybe Berlin has a little more but what do you expect from a city that was bombed to oblivion in 1945 and then half of it run by the famously aesthetically-challenged Soviet Communists for decades until 1989!
Justme June 21st, 2008, 08:33 AM Well, I wouldn't say Berlin is ugly. Certainly not. And it is getting more attractive all the time as the construction sites are filling in. By beauty, I am referring to a European perspective on architectural qualities as well as of cause geographic.
Berlin isn't on a beautiful expanse of water like Bergen, Stockholm, Sydney etc nor a particularly hilly region which can afford great views. There is nothing ugly about Berlin's geography, and in although it's main river is rather average, it is certainly nicer than what can be found in Rome. Add to that of cause the wonderful lakes, parks and forests in the suburban and metro area, it is quite pleasant. But beautiful... not really.
It also lacks, especially in the central area which was most damaged by WWII, the beautiful historical buildings that so typify a European city. It's this loss which for me at least places it firmly outside of the "Beautiful cities" category.
But this doesn't mean it's ugly. And there are plenty of wonderful neighbourhoods around town which can be described as attractive.
All that said, Berlin is my favourite German city. It sits in my mind with Paris, London and Barcelona as the cities I most miss and want to get back to.
Svartmetall June 21st, 2008, 08:40 AM You took the words right out of my mouth. You just don't come on here and say "Berlin was VERY dissappointing" and then not explain. That's called trolling.
WestTexan87- Explain please?
Judging from Google Earth, Flikr and Panoramio images of his home town, methinks he is trolling. I'd hardly call Abilene a fount of beauty.
skytrax June 22nd, 2008, 07:57 PM great city
berlinophile July 11th, 2008, 04:15 PM So what's going on then on the Alexanderstr. side of this new building on Alexander Platz? That side is one big concrete wall facing the main road which seems a bit odd to have at a major intersection like that. Are they going to maybe build one of the planned skyscrapers there?
If anyone is interested in more on the plans for Alexander Platz, the Berlin Senate Department for Urban Development has a good website on it. Its a rather long URL so here's a short one:
http://tinyurl.com/6cmau2
cecil.b July 14th, 2008, 03:37 AM Berlin is a great city :)
city_thing July 14th, 2008, 03:39 AM I agree. I love Berlin, it's an awesome place. I've never been so inspired by a city before, and I'd give anything to be able to live there.
German guys are so hot as well..... sigh! : /
Darryl August 23rd, 2008, 08:06 AM Yay! I read the cross is finally going back up on top of the Berliner Dom. It seemed like it was off for sooooo long and it looked ugly that way. I'm glad to know it's replaced now. :yes:
Kevlargeist August 23rd, 2008, 09:39 AM Looks so much more balanced now.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5493/berlinerdommitdemkuppelpj4.jpg
Elkhanan1 August 23rd, 2008, 12:22 PM Are there any plans to restore the roof of the Berliner Dom to its original form, which was much more beautiful and architecturally balanced?
This:
Looks so much more balanced now.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5493/berlinerdommitdemkuppelpj4.jpg
vs. this:
http://i37.tinypic.com/in8mdk.png
You can see what an impact the original roof made on the Berlin skyline in this image from 1939 (the Dom is on the left; the Stadtschloss is on the right):
http://i34.tinypic.com/2lw0mbm.jpg
Kampflamm August 23rd, 2008, 12:33 PM No financial funds are available for that, so the answer is no.
Elkhanan1 August 23rd, 2008, 12:42 PM ^^Well, I guess if they could find the funds to re-build the Stadtschloss, they'll eventually find the funds to rebuild the roof of the Dom to its original splendour.
Tiaren August 25th, 2008, 03:05 AM No financial funds are available for that, so the answer is no.
It's a pitty... :ohno:
Darryl September 13th, 2008, 12:38 AM O2 World opened on Wednesday.
erbse September 13th, 2008, 08:57 PM ^ If anybody's looking for additional information and pictures: O2 World Berlin - Stadium Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=25214058#post25214058)
Darryl October 28th, 2008, 11:33 PM What's new in Berlin development? Last time I was there was two years ago (Sept. 2006). I'm going to go back in 2009. I figure I'll have to see the US embassy and O2 World. Can I take the U55 U Bahn to Pariser Platz yet? I was hoping to be able to see the Great Berlin Wheel, but alas they haven't even started it.
Tiaren October 30th, 2008, 02:52 PM What's new in Berlin development? Last time I was there was two years ago (Sept. 2006). I'm going to go back in 2009. I figure I'll have to see the US embassy and O2 World. Can I take the U55 U Bahn to Pariser Platz yet? I was hoping to be able to see the Great Berlin Wheel, but alas they haven't even started it.
I really wonder, why the Berlin Projects & Construction-thread is so dead compared to others threads here. Although Berlin is one of the fastest changing cities in Europe.
So I'm going (to try) to reply to your question Darryl. :)
When will you be back in 2009? If it is not too early in the year, there will be some projects finished, almost finished or at the beginning of construction.
I don't know about U55 though. In Berlin everything seems to take twice or three times as long...
finished construction:
The Neues Museum (New Museum) by David Chipperfield will be completed or near completion. With this, and other works of restauration/reconstruction, the Museumsinsel will be finally restored to it's former beauty.
http://www.museumsinsel-berlin.de/
(the modern James Simon Gallery by Chipperfield has yet to start construction though)
The former Palast der Republik on Schlossplatz will be completely gone. You can look at a temporary art exhibition in a pretty hideous temporary building.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/photo64/2974183353/sizes/o/
The Schinkelplatz is already finished. It's a beautiful reconstruction of an old city square and is right next to Schlossplatz and Unter den Linden.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/photo64/2975036530/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/berolino/2962388280/
The "Upper Eastside" building complex along Unter den Linden is now almost finished.
http://www.uppereastsideberlin.de/
The new spectacular reading room of the old Staatsbibliothek (State Library) on Unter den Linden might/should be finished then.
http://www.morgenpost.de/multimedia/archive/00000/148258_jpg_585b.jpg
The new embassy of the United States is already finished, as you said.
With this, Pariser Platz is finally finished too.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/frankinho/2536351622/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sascha_franck/2639395696/sizes/l/
Almost all of the Townhouses near Unter den Linden will be finished as well.
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00430/Townhouses_BM_Lifes_430080g.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28292431@N06/2876019553/sizes/o/
This new library (Jakob und Wilhelm Grimm Zentrum) near Unter den Linden will be probably finished too. At least the outside. It will have a spectacular interior.
http://www.maxdudler.de/de/projekte/oeffentliche_bauten/grimmzentrum.php
O2 Arena is finished, as you said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cbmd/2939136290/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anberlin/2962407115/sizes/l/
They'll finish this (quite ugly thing) on Alexanderplatz soon:
http://www.stadtentwicklung.berlin.de/planen/staedtebau-projekte/alexanderplatz/pix/realisierung/hines_persp_projekt_die_mitte_250x182.jpg
http://www.morgenpost.de/multimedia/archive/00150/Alex_Simulation_Sat_150633b.jpg
Maybe not that interesting, but I love old museums.
The Naturkunde Museum (Museum of Natural History) was partly renovated and now you can visit the largest dinosaur skeleton of the world again.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10254803@N00/2847475293/sizes/o/
beginning construction:
Good news fo the Great Wheel. Construction should start in the middle of November, this year!!! ;)
http://www.morgenpost.de/berlin/article966838/Berliner_Zoo_schafft_Platz_fuer_neues_Riesenrad.html
<---in German
The Spreedreieck near Bahnhof Friedrichsstraße is in the middle of construction:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/26088600@N08/2884828958/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/agentflash/2852624179/sizes/l/
Construction of Hackesches Quartier near Hackescher Markt has started:
http://www.ivg.de/images/Berlin_HQ_P_S-kl-bearbeitet2.jpg
http://www.ivg-europe.com/images/Hack_Q_Berlin_neue_Mitte_kl.jpg
They started construction for the Zoo Fenster a skyscraper (ca. 120m) near Kurfürstendamm. No new rendered pictures for this project though.
I think, this were all the most important constructions within Berlins city centre.:cheers:
Or did I forget something?
Darryl October 30th, 2008, 07:32 PM I really wonder, why the Berlin Projects & Construction-thread is so dead compared to others threads here. Although Berlin is one of the fastest changing cities in Europe.
So I'm going (to try) to reply to your question Darryl. :)
Wow Tiaren! Thanks so much. That was a great response!
I agree that there seems to be no interest in Berlin here on SSC. I guess cuz there's no skyscrapers in Berlin? To me, skyscrapers do not a city make. Oh well.
In Berlin everything seems to take twice or three times as long...
I know! How many YEARS does it take to build ONE subway station?? I'm talking about just the station, not the tunnel. The tunnel was completed some time ago. What on earth is taking so long to complete that station at Pariser Platz??
The most exciting project of all IMO is the Museum Island project, but then again it appears they've been working on it for 10 years! and it won't be complete till 2015?! Jeez.
I really appreciate your efforts. Thank you!
"now, back to your regular scheduled programming SSC viewers. We'll discuss Berlin again sometime next year" :lol::lol::nuts:
Tiaren November 1st, 2008, 08:39 PM Hab' ich doch gern gemacht, Darryl. :) <---means something like: It was my pleasure, Darryl. :)
You might find this interesting. I just stumbled over a construction video of U-55:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YPmXDsEBtc
And it's in English!
Darryl November 8th, 2008, 05:48 PM Thanks Tiaren, yeah I've actually seen that before. It's a pretty cool video. I just hope they finish that (I think its actually called Brandenburger Tor U55 station rather than Pariser Platz) soon. It would be nice for Pariser Platz/Unter den Linden to FINALLY look "complete" without scaffolding and construction.
Svartmetall November 9th, 2008, 02:57 AM I know! How many YEARS does it take to build ONE subway station?? I'm talking about just the station, not the tunnel. The tunnel was completed some time ago. What on earth is taking so long to complete that station at Pariser Platz??
Don't worry mate, if it makes you feel any better, one station ABOVE GROUND in Auckland started construction in 2007 and won't be complete until 2010-2011! :nuts::lol:
UrbanMyth November 25th, 2008, 02:36 AM US embassy almost finished
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2049/2536351622_5c8b28caae_b.jpg
OMG! It looks like a US minimum security prison. :ohno:
CrazyCanuck November 25th, 2008, 04:13 AM It's supposed too. The architect is actually Gehry, you wouldn't know it though. They didn't want any flash because it would then outshine the Brandenburg Gate.
goschio November 25th, 2008, 04:30 AM It's supposed too. The architect is actually Gehry, you wouldn't know it though. They didn't want any flash because it would then outshine the Brandenburg Gate.
Not flashy but something nice would have been appreciated.
UrbanMyth November 25th, 2008, 05:06 AM What's happening with the Berlin Palais? Is it being rebuilt?
habsgul January 2nd, 2009, 06:31 PM Any updates?
Darryl January 5th, 2009, 02:17 AM ^^
Don't hold your breath ;)
The Kent January 15th, 2009, 01:04 PM a new draft for the Humboldthafen:
http://www.abload.de/img/humboldhafen_entwurf_0g2ne.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=humboldhafen_entwurf_0g2ne.jpg)
helghast January 15th, 2009, 05:07 PM i like the new draft. its color and shape is perfect
Marthrax February 16th, 2009, 01:31 AM Upper Eastside Berlin (uc)
http://www.buenck.fehse.com/projects/commercial/files/page1-1003-full.jpg
Das ist nicht in Berlin, sondern die Hitachi-Erweiterung am Duisburger Innenhafen. Aus Versehen falsch verlinkt?
beta29 February 19th, 2009, 12:53 PM Again a new hotel for berlin...:nuts:
construction start: 2009
finished: 2011
...don´t know anything about the height...60-70m I guess.
But it´s not 100% sure if its going to be built.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7889/alex00dz7.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5788/alex02db2.jpg
beta29 February 19th, 2009, 12:59 PM "Zoofenster" is under construction(the yellow building in the picture):banana:
...not sure about the blue one(Atlas-Tower), but the building in front of the towers will be demolished!:banana:
http://www.abload.de/img/schimmelpfenghochhuserfq10.jpg
beta29 February 19th, 2009, 01:03 PM New hotel in the eastern part of berlin is finished!
The andel´s hotel.
I would say it´s quite depressiv and ugly:ohno:
http://freenet-homepage.de/ladrillo/landels/landels01.jpg
http://freenet-homepage.de/ladrillo/landels/landels12.jpg
http://freenet-homepage.de/ladrillo/landels/landels04.jpg
beta29 February 19th, 2009, 01:08 PM Upper Eastside...(Friedrichstr./Unter den Linden)...is nearly finished now...:)
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/bato/25.01.09/IMG_7226.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/bato/25.01.09/IMG_7233.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/bato/25.01.09/IMG_7247.jpg
:banana::banana::banana:
GeneratorNL February 19th, 2009, 01:42 PM ^^ Thank you for the updates. They are very appreciated :)
Frieden February 22nd, 2009, 02:21 PM @beta29: The first picture of the new "Andel´s hotel Berlin" is not the result of construction, it is merely a suggestion of a member of the DAF which result would be better than the status quo(his opinion).
and don't forget: all pics are copyrighted by Backstein. This is the magnificent result (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showpost.php?p=210958&postcount=64) :D
edit:
another Pic http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5360/img4996uw6.jpg
beta29 February 23rd, 2009, 12:19 PM @beta29: The first picture of the new "Andel´s hotel Berlin" is not the result of construction, it is merely a suggestion of a member of the DAF which result would be better than the status quo(his opinion).
and don't forget: all pics are copyrighted by Backstein. This is the magnificent result (http://freenet-homepage.de/ladrillo/landels/landels01.jpg) :D
Oh:eek:...I´m so sorry!!:)
I´ll change it!...it´s so strange I didn´t notice.:nuts:
goschio February 26th, 2009, 07:25 AM The Andels Hotel is pure ugliness IMO. How can they built such a bunker nowadays. :ohno:
erbse March 27th, 2009, 11:47 PM New 150m highrise proposal for Alexanderplatz
It's the glassy one to the right
http://www.abload.de/img/264463_3_alex_querdpqr.jpg
The base building is already completed (http://www.tagesspiegel.de/storage/pic/nomc/aufmacher/265511_1_090325_alexanderplatz_ddp.jpg) ("Die Mitte" by Hines investors)
http://www.berlinonline.de/imperia/md/images/berlinerzeitung/berlin/berlin2009_2/hines420_318x315.jpg
German article about it (http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/berlin/122812/index.php)
Project thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=827582)
beta29 May 6th, 2009, 07:57 PM Project "Spreedreieck" which is located at Friedrichstraße is nearly finished now...:) Looks quite okay...only the facade to Friedrichstraße looks like a big wall I think...
http://dastier.klassevon99.de/Fotos/31_03_09/31_03_09_2.jpg
http://dastier.klassevon99.de/Fotos/31_03_09/31_03_09_5.jpg
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