Dapat yata mai-link dito ang discussions about pay parking. Or maybe there should be a separate thread on this? Quezon City's proposal is supposed to be linked with congestion.

congestion pricing is not needed,we just have to maximize passenger volume in all public and private vehicles..promoting double deck buses is one way of solving traffic

I agree congestion pay, parking, sidewalks, mass transport, zoning really are all related to urban planning. You really can't look at each specifically without affecting the other.

In some places, road widening is what ate into the sidewalks. Thus portions of the frontage of properties along the road must be appropriated by the government to widen the sidewalks as well. It's useless to widen the road without widening the sidewalk as well because people end up spilling over to the streets, thus negating the space you created through road widening.

Some places used to be suburban neighborhoods that have now developed, that's why they have smaller roads.

I believe Congestion Pricing should only be implemented in certain parts of Metro Manila and not the whole. And only when there is a comfortable alternative choice. I would rather have congestion pricing than color coding though. You can circumvent color coding by having two cars, but with congesting pricing you can't.

paano yung mga may bagahe at may pamilya or mag-outing mga kamag-anak ,may mga lugar na di kayang maabot ng mass transpo...they can build multi-level parking and improve the roads and their facilities..they merely created money-making business

alisin nila yung mga bulok na bulok na na mga public at private vehicles..
kailangan pa rin talaga ng kotse sa malayuang byahe

I believe Congestion Pricing should only be implemented in certain parts of Metro Manila and not the whole. And only when there is a comfortable alternative choice. I would rather have congestion pricing than color coding though. You can circumvent color coding by having two cars, but with congesting pricing you can't.That's what I've been trying to say all along. It is funny because congestion pricing in practice is really done on certain parts of dense metropolises only, like London and Singapore. It was never implemented in the whole metropolis. That's why it's called congestion pricing in the first place anyway, it is only used in congested areas where other options are not possible anymore but to reduce private vehicles.

this proposal should connect the major places/cities in region two which include santiago, cauayan, ilagan then tuguegarao... Major traders of region two are in this place, so the express way should pass this places... If the NLEE will traverse nagtipunan in quirino, it should also pass through saguday, then to the southern portion of santiago going to northern most part of isabela until it reaches tuguegarao....

Excuse guys Im in need of help!!! you see my Thesis proposal happens to be a rest stop located along San Felipe, Pampanga... the thesis is hypothetical but I'm in need of data concerning Rest Areas .. please help me wah!!

thankyou!!!

guys!! can someone help me out with my Thesis Proposal?.. it happens to be a Rest Stop too, along North bound lane of NLEX, san felipe Pampanga.. I'm in need of data concerning Rest Stops/Areas such as space requirements for a rest stop, modules-dimension of spaces, photos of existing rest stops and others... please help me out... your consideration is highly appreciated!... please and thank you

Jerico Baron

Wish we had these types of "stacked highways" in the Philippines, it would make for a pleasant drive to anywhere in the country.

The TURBINE
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/turbine-florida.jpg
A “free-flow” style of exchange like the cloverleaf — that is, no traffic signals or intersections.

The CLOVERLEAF
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/cloverleaf.jpg
A classic, but it has fallen into some disfavor among traffic engineers because it causes weaving because cars are entering and exiting in the same lane. It also doesn’t handle large traffic volumes as well as some other configurations (for example, stacks).

The STACK
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/stack-interchange-in-shanghai.jpg
A vertically layered arrangement of highways and connecting elevated ramps. The number of levels varies and go as high as six (though three and four are more common). Stacks are expensive to build but very efficient for high traffic volumes.

The LOFTHOUSE
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/lofthouse.png
A roundabout over two grade-separated highways. Less expensive than than a stacked interchange, but also has much lower capacity.

The PAR-CLO
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/parclo-in-ontario.jpg
A Partial Cloverleaf, a very popular design for places where interstates meet larger state and local roads. Depending how the loops and ramps are configured, a parclo is classified as either an A or a B and a number 1 through 4.

The BUTT
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/parclo-variation.jpg
A highly gluteal variety of the Par-Clo.

The CLOVERMILL
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/clovermill-germany.png
A partial cloverleaf with turbine-style flyover (or, elevated) ramps.

The CLOVERSTACK
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/cloverstack.png
Combines elements of cloverleaf and stack designs.

The SPAGHETTI BOWL
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/spaghetti-bowl.jpg
When we get into the realm of shapes and patterns that seem to be describable only by chaos theory or string theory. Spaghetti is a global phenomenon these days.

The DIAMOND
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/classic-diamond-in-ny.jpg
A simple and venerable design. It doesn’t eat up much land, but it can easily get backed up.

The SPOOEY
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/spui-in-kentucky.jpg
The Single Point Urban Interchange (or, SPUI) is very compact and one of the best choices for tight spaces in cities. Unlike the diamond, it sends all traffic through one signal. The disadvantages of this arrangement are that it can be confusing to some drivers though, and it tends to be inhospitable to bikes and pedestrians.

The BRAID
http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/the-braid.jpg
This interchange is a stack design, but what’s unique about it is that the north and southbound segments and east and westbound segments are actually braided over each other briefly in the middle of the interchange.

They sure have clever ways of naming these stacked highway. The BUTT really looks like one. The others are very obvious and the rest, I don't know.

The BUTT

Those are called a "half cloverleaf" (or a variant of a parclo)

This is a variant of the turbine, but with tighter curves:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Knooppunt_windmolen.png

The star-turbine, a variant of the stack.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Knooppunt_sterturbine.png

Diverging turbine.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Divergerend_windmolenknooppunt.png

^^ Those are very intricate, you can almost consider them works of art.

i love the diverging turbine... do we have that here in the phillies?

^^ Apparently, we don't

After a bit of research and other stuff, I was able to determine the type of interchange used for major interchanges in Metro Manila:

* Balintawak: Cloverleaf
* Magallanes: Directional T
* Sales (Skyway): T-bone
* Sales (SLEX): Parclo

This list may grow longer as more interchanges are discovered and built.

wow nice photos

nice pics..sana magkaroon tayo nyan kahit sa mindanao maglagay sila nyan

^^ They should have it all around the Philippines. That's what's lacking, a fully integrated and organized highway system. Movement of people, goods, and services will rapidly improve with roads like that. For now, wishing is all we can do. Sigh....

yahh..always wishful thinking

Yes, a free-flow highway system for the rest of the Country. Manila is already too congested.
And maybe the very First Asian Autobahn? :D

http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-content/uploads/turbine-florida.jpg
I like this the best :D

^^ Uhmm....other Asians nations already have their own version of the Autobahn.

^^ Uhmm....other Asians nations already have their own version of the Autobahn.

I stand corrected :lurker:

Broders - any update on the Daang Hari to Slex toll way + interchange with SLEX?

appreciate if you have any data

just saw an old photo...

is this a half Butt design?

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9507/phldavaoypalima2.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/phldavaoypalima2.jpg/)

^^ That's just a bu.... :lol:




Corny pills! :bash:

Half a butt? Maybe casualty of Erap's All Out War. :lol:

Traffic Thread

Manila traffic found costing economy $2 billion each year (Business World)
TRAFFIC ALONG EDSA and other main roads in Metro Manila is estimated to be costing the economy at least $2 billion a year in terms of lost man-hours, according to a report posted by the World Bank on its Web site last August.


Costs hidden in those queues -- BW File Photo
The same report noted that traffic also has some costs that cannot be quantified in monetary terms, like causing the premature deaths of about 5,000 Filipinos annually.


The World Bank said in its report that traffic congestion in Metro Manila is costing the country some P277 million daily or approximately $2 billion per year in terms of lost time of workers alone which averages about 41 minutes per worker.


It added that, "in terms of health, air pollution in Metro Manila accounts for almost 5,000 premature deaths and costs about P962 million ($19 million) annually in hospitalization expenses and lost productive time due to illness."


World Bank said EDSA, which carries some 225,000 vehicles each day, including approximately 3,500 franchised and 1,500 unauthorized/illegal buses, is among the worst in terms of traffic congestion in the metropolis. This, it said, is due to inadequate, poorly planned infrastructure; oversupply of vehicles -- buses, in particular -- and poor enforcement of traffic regulations.


World Bank noted that there is currently an "oversupply of buses relative to demand along EDSA." This, it said, leads to intense competition among drivers "[which] worsens the traffic congestion as they jostle for space and tend to stay longer at designated loading and unloading points to wait for passengers."


"At present, it takes an average of five hours to complete a round trip along 24-kilometer EDSA, at an average speed of about 15 kilometers per hour and one minute stop at each of the more than 15 designated bus stops," noted the World Bank report.


The World Bank said that measures taken by the Metro Manila Development Authority to relieve congestion on EDSA have had very limited success. These include one-way systems; reversible traffic lanes; yellow boxes; pedestrian barriers; pedestrian overpasses; EDSA bus lanes; bus stop separators; bus stop segregation schemes; bus waiting sheds; prohibition of provincial buses along EDSA; odd-even scheme; unified vehicle volume reduction scheme; and truck ban and truck routes.


"Many of these schemes fail because they are not properly planned, there is inadequate consultation with road users, they are not properly explained, enforcement is often difficult or unsustainable, and there is little monitoring of their impact," it said. -- BVB

for Mindanao and the rest of the Philippines to have its own highway system like the US and Germany's Autobahn, the provinces and the LGUs should start working on ROWs because this is where all things stall as some landowners don't cooperate on the government right away.