View Full Version : Sensational Architecture around the world: Pictures + Discussion
KB July 30th, 2007, 06:06 PM So I am making this thread to post pictures and discuss sensational, extreme, alien, brilliant, etc,etc architectures from around the world.
My idea is for skyscrapers but if some other thing is just extra-ordinary we can have it too.
KB July 30th, 2007, 06:12 PM http://skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1027IrisBayFlowersInDubai_pic1.jpg
The architects are, as many would SSCers would now be able to guess , Atkins.
I find it quite amazing and a brilliant design but I am not sure how it would fit in the skyline.
Other issues i can see with it is the extra-strengthening (and hence cost) that would be required for it since the weight from the top would be pressing sideways.
Still another issue is...Does this have an optimized space for the ground area it will be covering?
Any fellow architecture fans, please discuss.
KB July 30th, 2007, 06:15 PM Probably by making it elliptical, they would have transferred the weight downward but since i cant see any structural support directly on the sides...I wonder what solution they have implemented...or am i guessing the wrong direction of forces?
FK July 30th, 2007, 07:08 PM Those birds are bound to crash into it :lol:
siamu maharaj July 30th, 2007, 07:17 PM Probably by making it elliptical, they would have transferred the weight downward but since i cant see any structural support directly on the sides...I wonder what solution they have implemented...or am i guessing the wrong direction of forces?
From what I know is that the egg shape is pretty good at withstanding forces (that's why a chicken can sit on it without breaking it, although the material is extremely delicate). But I'm not sure if that thing would work here, coz the force is just one directional. Anyway, I'm just guessing, so I could be completely wrong here.
siamu maharaj July 30th, 2007, 07:19 PM The building could also have a central pillar/shaft that bears the weight. Probably the shaft also houses the elevators.
KB July 30th, 2007, 08:41 PM I must say that Atkins have some damn innovative and bold architects in their team.
imran02feb79 July 31st, 2007, 10:50 AM What abt this ..... :)
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7088/16228495gj8sd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
KB July 31st, 2007, 02:14 PM Where and what is that? :eek:
Pakia August 1st, 2007, 01:14 AM ^^ WOW Pakia likes that bldg too!
Where the hell its going to be built? Scandinavian country?
KB August 1st, 2007, 01:33 AM ^^As mentioned , the Iris bay is in dubai..cant say about the one posted by imran.
Pakia August 1st, 2007, 02:01 AM Yeah Dubai one I know but the one Imran posted. Thats one twisted piece of art but beautiful!
imran02feb79 August 2nd, 2007, 12:47 PM :) proposed cobra towers in Qatar
KB August 9th, 2007, 04:53 PM http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/397/lusailho3.png
Lasail towers in doha
KB August 9th, 2007, 04:54 PM http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7189/oryxtowerbk7.jpg
Oryx tower, doha
togetherwearebetter August 11th, 2007, 03:34 AM http://www.archinect.com/images/uploads/MAD_tower_03.jpg
the absolute tower (aka Marilyn Monroe), Sauga, Canada
cool aint it?
KB August 11th, 2007, 03:43 AM Is it just an optical illusion or does that tower looks thinner at the bottom than in the middle?
UnitedPakistan August 11th, 2007, 04:04 AM Is it just an optical illusion or does that tower looks thinner at the bottom than in the middle?
Optical illusion simply because the tower twists!:)
KB August 11th, 2007, 04:16 AM I dont think the actual structure will twist. That would give quite an unstable building. Probably only the outer facade/ cladding twists not the floor area.
UnitedPakistan August 11th, 2007, 04:27 AM I dont think the actual structure will twist. That would give quite an unstable building. Probably only the outer facade/ cladding twists not the floor area.
I can't really comment on that but I will have an architect look into that if you want me to investigate further...
For interest purposes...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Torso
FK August 11th, 2007, 05:35 AM http://www.archinect.com/images/uploads/MAD_tower_03.jpg
the absolute tower (aka Marilyn Monroe), Sauga, Canada
cool aint it?
There'r two of them :D
togetherwearebetter August 11th, 2007, 07:24 AM There'r two of them :D
one is Marilyn Monroe, who is the other one...beyonce knowle??
Pakia August 16th, 2007, 02:46 AM http://www.figure-ground.com/travel/stata/0001.jpg
http://www.artsconnected.org/artsnetmn/environ/gehrf01d.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/35499598_22190b1094.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/122/313841131_a60af010ab_o.jpg
KB August 16th, 2007, 02:04 PM Frank Gehry's MASTERPIECES?
Bullshit is what comes to mind :ohno:
Honestly, looks like building cloning gone wrong.
UnitedPakistan August 16th, 2007, 07:59 PM Frank Gehry's MASTERPIECES?
Bullshit is what comes to mind :ohno:
Honestly, looks like building cloning gone wrong.
It's like a building out of a really bad nightmare!:ohno:
KB August 16th, 2007, 08:17 PM Btw pakia, are these buildings/renders for real? and if yes from where?
transistorized August 17th, 2007, 04:29 AM Btw pakia, are these buildings/renders for real? and if yes from where?
You don't know Frank Gehry! :bash: He is famous for his such wacky designs.
siamu maharaj August 17th, 2007, 11:03 AM Anyone seen the Computer Science building at MIT?
KB August 17th, 2007, 12:05 PM You don't know Frank Gehry! :bash: He is famous for his such wacky designs.
Is he just famous for his designs only or do his designs actually get constructed? I don't recall ever having seen such buildings pictures.
If we such things out there, I am sure I would have seen them somewhere on this site.
:dunno:
oogabooga August 17th, 2007, 12:59 PM Anyone seen the Computer Science building at MIT?
Seen it? I have been in it! Wacky looking structure, a nightmare for the builders! :crazy:
oogabooga August 17th, 2007, 01:02 PM Is he just famous for his designs only or do his designs actually get constructed? I don't recall ever having seen such buildings pictures.
If we such things out there, I am sure I would have seen them somewhere on this site.
:dunno:
Dude! Are you serious? You have never seen a Gehry building? All his stuff gets constructed. Amazingly enough, people lineup to get their buildings designed by him. I believe his most famous building is the Guggenheim museum in Bilbao, Spain.
http://data.greatbuildings.com/gbc/images/cid_bilbao_002.jpg
http://data.greatbuildings.com/gbc/images/cid_1028276295_Bilbao_018.jpg
siamu maharaj August 17th, 2007, 01:51 PM Do they look like normal rectangular buildings if you're stoned?
siamu maharaj August 17th, 2007, 01:53 PM Seen it? I have been in it! Wacky looking structure, a nightmare for the builders! :crazy:
I love that building.
oogabooga August 17th, 2007, 04:25 PM Do they look like normal rectangular buildings if you're stoned?
That depends on what your smoking. :yes: Some purple haze might do the trick. :tongue3:
KB August 23rd, 2007, 03:54 AM Dancing towers in dubai
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/516593529_1531244490.jpg
KB August 23rd, 2007, 03:55 AM Sheth Tower, Dubai
http://*************************/dubai/jpgs/sheth_tower_iris_bay_atkins1206.jpg
Pakia August 23rd, 2007, 03:18 PM ^^ Absolutely love # 35, absolutely hate # 36.
Hope # 35 gets made, would love to visit Dubai again just for that.
KB September 8th, 2007, 03:59 PM Beautiful and sensational looking bridge in singapore
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5945/smallskylinesml2ec5.jpg
siamu maharaj September 8th, 2007, 05:23 PM What about our sensational bridge?
Abid Siddiqui September 8th, 2007, 07:13 PM Pictures posted in Sky Scrapercity Emirates forum section
Its good to see development in my hometown "Ras Al Khaimah"
:)
Ras Al Khaimah Financial City
http://xs116.xs.to/xs116/07243/rakfc.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/6b1kbqd.jpg
siamu maharaj September 8th, 2007, 09:57 PM Relax guys, there's nothing wrong with the buildings. The camera was on LSD, that's all.
Techno-Architect January 31st, 2008, 09:35 PM Two different things ive mentioned. One is the exisitng bye-laws made by the CDA regarding the minimum distance between two building. The second is when an architect works on the project, its not neccessary to construct a vertical solid box out of the plot, the building design can be recessed from side so give it a slim look. There are so many other techniques how buildings could be played around with depends on the designer whoz working on it. NESPAK is quite a big firm. Im just saying they could have tackled this problem themselves!
KB January 31st, 2008, 09:51 PM ^^ that won't happen as long as we have Nayyar Ali dada designing every other project. (not that i am implying he designed this one).
Lets hope the younger generation come up with more challenging and aesthetic ideas.
Techno-Architect February 1st, 2008, 12:26 AM ^^^^
What makes you think Nayyar AD is the only good architect in the country? Uve juss learned one name.....hez hardly working by himself anymore, plus he is not considered a very good commercial architect, his repute in mix-use building is very bad, although he is very expresses his design philosophy in most govt. related and social building, but that is only because the govt building should reflect more of the local architecture.
I would say the market has got loads of other architect, get to know about more architects too. Get hold of "Archi Times" or Architecture & Interior magazine published from Karachi. That will really be a good help! :)
KB February 1st, 2008, 12:52 AM :doh:
where did I say that I consider him a good architect? :?
And those "other good" architects that you are talking about...have no experience either. How many highrises do we have...and how many of these were designed by local architects and how many are good looking?
This is a field in which the architects are relatively newer. And i said, i hope the newer generation of architects do come up with aesthetically good and efficient designs.
No more state life tower or burj al gwadar type buildings please.
Intoxication February 1st, 2008, 08:14 AM ^^^^^
The designers should incorporate all the issues in their final design! I have a better idea of that! It doesnt mean we get paid so we design something wrong or we design regardless of all the real-time issues that pop up! That would be the most unsincerest thing a person would do to the profession. Although this is in practice and a part of our so called culture, but it shouldnt be promoted I would suggest from every individual if they have some ethics!
The two building towers are not more than 30-40 feet away from one another! Compare a space of that size between two concrete walls rising 200 feet high! I suggest CDA should better hire some good urban planners to design some good guidlines for this area!
KB there is no point in arguing with Mr. Ego. Techno thinks that just because he's an architect, that makes him special or better than everyone else. There are so many posts in which Techo tries to show off. This reminds me of one other member of MP with a BIG Ego, Mr swerve. Just because you're in a certain field and you have more knowledge than the rest of us, that doesn't mean that you have to boast about it. Many of us are in different fields, I haven't seen others showing off.
EDIT: Wait a second! Techno isn't even an architect yet!
Jsultan February 1st, 2008, 08:50 AM EDIT: Wait a second! Techno isn't even an architect yet!
:lol:
oogabooga February 2nd, 2008, 06:47 PM :laugh:
ArchiPak February 2nd, 2008, 10:14 PM Basically, it's the job of the welfare commission to handle such things. And maybe it would be really good to hire urban planners to fill in this area of Islamabad.
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 02:01 AM :doh:
where did I say that I consider him a good architect? :?
And those "other good" architects that you are talking about...have no experience either. How many highrises do we have...and how many of these were designed by local architects and how many are good looking?
This is a field in which the architects are relatively newer. And i said, i hope the newer generation of architects do come up with aesthetically good and efficient designs.
No more state life tower or burj al gwadar type buildings please.
U mentioned his name that meant u know him more than any architect but coming to later part.
Since you are not sitting in a market, you dont have the idea of who is a good architect and who is not. You just admire the outer beauty of any structure however you surely lack the technical idea of how it is good in other aspects such as planning, flow of spaces, movement of people etc etc
About the high-rise issue, im sure you have a good idea about the economic factor and economy over the past 60 years, and it is only in the past 5-10years there has been a good growth is construction, architecture and building material sector. You must look at the reason why we do not have high-rise structures in Pakistan. Most of the developer building up such structures do not have sufficient capital to execute a complete project. Either there is a patnership between a group of companies or a single devloper would construct on the basis of how much he will get payment in advance from the client. When you have such an unsustainable project developing strategy, you can neither make a high-rise building nor complete the project in a good time. Now dont start giving examples of Ghurair Al Giga or Bahria, those are huge companies.
Then comes the lack of technology in all associated field of construction sector. From the start of the project to the stage of post-completition maintainance, there are several issues that are not know to everyone but they will still demand for it. You people want to construct a glass and aluminium building with central air-conditioning. Even the best designed projects in Pakistan right now are suffering the energy crisis which is the so far worst condition in our history. You dont have electricity, the building electrical system switch to diesel and gas generators, but what is happening now, you have a gas shortage. So what happpens to centrally air-conditioning building, they have fixed glass, and air start to get stale, the heat gets trapped and the same space that was a heaven in all the perfect condition becomes a nightmare to stay in. The client get to see building designed in Dubai and want them in a Pakistani environment, that is not so easily possible. We dont have endless amount of money to run all systems effeciently, neither do we have sufficient feul to burn in case they is a power crisis.
The problem with the client is that they think hiring an international architect will do justice with their project, but unfortunately all the projects are a failure if you have a detailed analysis on them. Y? Caus they never respect your climatic factor or other social norms that are to be neccessarily catered. However a local architect, although his design, elevational facades may not be so eye-catching but he having a good idea of all the local terminolgies and issue will execute the projects in a much better way.
Ill give you one example, WAPDA house in lahore, designed by Edward D. Stone, a marvalous and striking landmark building is not a well designed building in context to your climatic and spacial requirement of our govt. office. Firstly it has a CONCRETE facade, multi-faceted, all side, so if you have the idea from which side your building gains most heat, in summers in particular is the west side. Concrete has a high 'K' value than bricks, meaning it will gain more heat in a cetain time period. So what happens then? Large amount of heat is transfered into the building, increasing you cooling loads in summer. Making it a multi faceted increases it surface area, that mean again your are bringing in more heat to the structure. Now is this fair enough to building structure in a country facing elecrticity and energy crisis???
About the local architects, so let me guide you more on it. Currently every office in country is running short on architects. There is so much work to do and lesser no. of professional available in the market. Now then why are they not coming out or you cant name anyone else. That may be a marketing and business related issue since the senior professional have a wider experience and they are well known in the market so only those who either do mega project or govt project or project that are landmark become famous. There is alot of work to do, I am very happy about it, but not having too many high-riser building is not an issue direclty related to the architects. Foriegn architect gives the client a little satisfaction and fame too. Look at these example, projects of these firms are arleady on SSC.......Nasir Iqbal--->Mall 99, CDA Headquarter Building 2nd Postition, Khudadad Heights......he is a good example of architect of age around +35. I take him as a good market competition in the near future. Desginer East, Designer West, that Bahria Icon project, Masterplanning of Bahria Town done by many local architects, Imtiaz Ali & Associates, Arch Vision Plus----so many projects of Karachi. Ar. Shah Nawaz executing so many projects in Faisalabad, like Kohinoor Heights.
Now Ar. Shah Nawaz designs a 28storey building for the Kohinoor group, like 3-4 years back, and still it is a vision, now where does the fault lie then. Kohinoor is not a small developer, they are mega-industrialist. So the approach towards the feild is more dependant on a CLIENT than the architect/designer.
The names are always what the developer force to put up for their project. However, like I am educating all of you, it is the duty of the architect to educate his client and other people. Honestly speaking, more than 95% of the clients that come to us (architects) are either mindless, dumbheads, or try to be oversmart over issues that seem good to them outwardly and try to force their ideas onto us, the result is often the designer resigns with these habits of the client. So naming projects has always been an issue over here.
I would say to have a wider view of what sort of ideas new architects are coming up with, you all should visit the THESIS work of different architectural institution in Pakistan. That will make you aware of how much well aware we are of this field, and this field is not new to us at all.
I will be coming up with a thesis based on "sustainble mix-use community development" next year InshaAllah. I will let you know when there is a display. Hopefull in the third quarter of 2009.
------
ps. Im sure now you have a good idea how well versed already I am in this feild way before becoming a professional! :P
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 02:18 AM KB there is no point in arguing with Mr. Ego. Techno thinks that just because he's an architect, that makes him special or better than everyone else. There are so many posts in which Techo tries to show off. This reminds me of one other member of MP with a BIG Ego, Mr swerve. Just because you're in a certain field and you have more knowledge than the rest of us, that doesn't mean that you have to boast about it. Many of us are in different fields, I haven't seen others showing off.
EDIT: Wait a second! Techno isn't even an architect yet!
:) I like the last part! & I am thankful to the Almighty that he has made me so well versed in this field, even before GRADUATING!!!!
Like I mentioned earlier, the role of the architect is not only to design a building, he has to educate the client and the society, and so I am doing the same over here.
My father is an architect, and that is the blessing I have which makes me so well-versed in this field than most undergrad of this age.
I dont mind the comment/critics you have written. Infact, I will potray it this way, "this is the general behaviour of our society toward well versed architect and designer". When you put in our architectural styles and construction technology in comparison with other nation, you must see the honour and respect those societies put forward for their architects/designers aswell. In the 1950's to 1970's the architect and their role was hardly known, but today the general awareness about our role has reached a much respectable level. In future, IA, it will be much more brighter than today. Architect stand second after DOCTORs in serving the community and you can truely feel how much effort we people put up if either your or your close family members opts for such a feild.
So I will try to enlighten you all as much I can wether you consider it my EGO or my sincerity with the profession!!!
KB February 3rd, 2008, 02:23 AM :doh:
where did I say that I consider him a good architect? :?
And those "other good" architects that you are talking about...have no experience either. How many highrises do we have...and how many of these were designed by local architects and how many are good looking?
This is a field in which the architects are relatively newer. And i said, i hope the newer generation of architects do come up with aesthetically good and efficient designs.
No more state life tower or burj al gwadar type buildings please.
U mentioned his name that meant u know him more than any architect but coming to later part.
Since you are not sitting in a market, you dont have the idea of who is a good architect and who is not. You just admire the outer beauty of any structure however you surely lack the technical idea of how it is good in other aspects such as planning, flow of spaces, movement of people etc etc
About the high-rise issue, im sure you have a good idea about the economic factor and economy over the past 60 years, and it is only in the past 5-10years there has been a good growth is construction, architecture and building material sector. You must look at the reason why we do not have high-rise structures in Pakistan. Most of the developer building up such structures do not have sufficient capital to execute a complete project. Either there is a patnership between a group of companies or a single devloper would construct on the basis of how much he will get payment in advance from the client. When you have such an unsustainable project developing strategy, you can neither make a high-rise building nor complete the project in a good time. Now dont start giving examples of Ghurair Al Giga or Bahria, those are huge companies.
Then comes the lack of technology in all associated field of construction sector. From the start of the project to the stage of post-completition maintainance, there are several issues that are not know to everyone but they will still demand for it. You people want to construct a glass and aluminium building with central air-conditioning. Even the best designed projects in Pakistan right now are suffering the energy crisis which is the so far worst condition in our history. You dont have electricity, the building electrical system switch to diesel and gas generators, but what is happening now, you have a gas shortage. So what happpens to centrally air-conditioning building, they have fixed glass, and air start to get stale, the heat gets trapped and the same space that was a heaven in all the perfect condition becomes a nightmare to stay in. The client get to see building designed in Dubai and want them in a Pakistani environment, that is not so easily possible. We dont have endless amount of money to run all systems effeciently, neither do we have sufficient feul to burn in case they is a power crisis.
The problem with the client is that they think hiring an international architect will do justice with their project, but unfortunately all the projects are a failure if you have a detailed analysis on them. Y? Caus they never respect your climatic factor or other social norms that are to be neccessarily catered. However a local architect, although his design, elevational facades may not be so eye-catching but he having a good idea of all the local terminolgies and issue will execute the projects in a much better way.
Ill give you one example, WAPDA house in lahore, designed by Edward D. Stone, a marvalous and striking landmark building is not a well designed building in context to your climatic and spacial requirement of our govt. office. Firstly it has a CONCRETE facade, multi-faceted, all side, so if you have the idea from which side your building gains most heat, in summers in particular is the west side. Concrete has a high 'K' value than bricks, meaning it will gain more heat in a cetain time period. So what happens then? Large amount of heat is transfered into the building, increasing you cooling loads in summer. Making it a multi faceted increases it surface area, that mean again your are bringing in more heat to the structure. Now is this fair enough to building structure in a country facing elecrticity and energy crisis???
About the local architects, so let me guide you more on it. Currently every office in country is running short on architects. There is so much work to do and lesser no. of professional available in the market. Now then why are they not coming out or you cant name anyone else. That may be a marketing and business related issue since the senior professional have a wider experience and they are well known in the market so only those who either do mega project or govt project or project that are landmark become famous. There is alot of work to do, I am very happy about it, but not having too many high-riser building is not an issue direclty related to the architects. Foriegn architect gives the client a little satisfaction and fame too. Look at these example, projects of these firms are arleady on SSC.......Nasir Iqbal--->Mall 99, CDA Headquarter Building 2nd Postition, Khudadad Heights......he is a good example of architect of age around +35. I take him as a good market competition in the near future. Desginer East, Designer West, that Bahria Icon project, Masterplanning of Bahria Town done by many local architects, Imtiaz Ali & Associates, Arch Vision Plus----so many projects of Karachi. Ar. Shah Nawaz executing so many projects in Faisalabad, like Kohinoor Heights.
Now Ar. Shah Nawaz designs a 28storey building for the Kohinoor group, like 3-4 years back, and still it is a vision, now where does the fault lie then. Kohinoor is not a small developer, they are mega-industrialist. So the approach towards the feild is more dependant on a CLIENT than the architect/designer.
The names are always what the developer force to put up for their project. However, like I am educating all of you, it is the duty of the architect to educate his client and other people. Honestly speaking, more than 95% of the clients that come to us (architects) are either mindless, dumbheads, or try to be oversmart over issues that seem good to them outwardly and try to force their ideas onto us, the result is often the designer resigns with these habits of the client. So naming projects has always been an issue over here.
I would say to have a wider view of what sort of ideas new architects are coming up with, you all should visit the THESIS work of different architectural institution in Pakistan. That will make you aware of how much well aware we are of this field, and this field is not new to us at all.
I will be coming up with a thesis based on "sustainble mix-use community development" next year InshaAllah. I will let you know when there is a display. Hopefull in the third quarter of 2009.
------
ps. Im sure now you have a good idea how well versed already I am in this feild way before becoming a professional! :P
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FK February 3rd, 2008, 02:35 AM So true!
:rofl:
:bow:
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 02:37 AM ^^^^^ the clip
:lol:
But I had to explain it on a broader base with all relevant references to show you the truetality!
KB February 3rd, 2008, 02:44 AM Seriously i don't know why you wrote that long article ( and why i even bothered to read the whole of it). But in simpler English...here's what i said.
1. That Nayyar Ali dada is unduly considered as amongst the best architect in the country and any firm that hires him boast of it...even though his architecture doesn't appeal to me and kinda looks similar. Or in more simpler words, I DO NOT think he's a legend or good architect as he's being made to look like.
2. Our architects do not have much experience in high-rise contruction (why because we do not have a lot of highrises in pakistan)
3. Architects should also have an "aesthetic sense" and add it to buildings especially high-rises and they need to look something other than a concrete block.
4. State life tower and Bulj al gwadar are examples of buildings that 'I consider' do not have any aesthetic sense...atleast from the renders.
Now pray tell me what your article has to do with any of the things i said? why are you telling me about pakistan's 60 yr history, and the energy crisis or east or west facing ? or whether or not architects are in short supply, or whatever is the matter with kohinoor? and when your thesis is coming out?
(hence the video reply)
oogabooga February 3rd, 2008, 02:47 AM :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
THAT WAS PRICELESS KB! :rofl:
:bow:
oogabooga February 3rd, 2008, 02:58 AM Techno,
Your post was somewhat informative (read: somewhat) but I fail to see how it answers or even touches upon the issues and concerns raised by KB?
KB is absolutely right in saying that our architects miserably fail to strike a balance between form and functionality. Pakistan's urban landscape is full of buildings made solely for functionality and that has resulted in very bland, boring and in some cases hideous projects! Shining examples of this are the StateLife Tower and Burj-al-Gwadar.
Not to mention your egoistic and downright narcistic post adds insult to injury.
Modesty truely is a rare occurrence in Pakistani's, I wonder why?
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 03:04 AM Seriously i don't know why you wrote that long article ( and why i even bothered to read the whole of it). But in simpler English...here's what i said.
1. That Nayyar Ali dada is unduly considered as amongst the best architect in the country and any firm that hires him boast of it...even though his architecture doesn't appeal to me and kinda looks similar. Or in more simpler words, I DO NOT think he's a legend or good architect as he's being made to look like.
2. Our architects do not have much experience in high-rise contruction (why because we do not have a lot of highrises in pakistan)
3. Architects should also have an "aesthetic sense" and add it to buildings especially high-rises and they need to look something other than a concrete block.
4. State life tower and Bulj al gwadar are examples of buildings that 'I consider' do not have any aesthetic sense...atleast from the renders.
Now pray tell me what your article has to do with any of the things i said? why are you telling me about pakistan's 60 yr history, and the energy crisis or east or west facing ? or whether or not architects are in short supply, or whatever is the matter with kohinoor? and when your thesis is coming out?
(hence the video reply)
1. No doubt i respect his work to but no more comment on him.
2. I disagree. Try to subscribe a magazine like Archi Times (karachi) and see how our architect are working in the national and international market. Al Imam Enterprise, designer of Bank Alfalah, are getting a huge project from Bangladesh, Dubai, South Africa etc and currently the largest firm in term of associated workmanship, capble of designing anything. Ar. Nasir Iqbal from Isb. Ejaz Ahad, grad from IIT,USA, worked with SOM, designer of Habib Bank Tower ISB. Ar. Arshad Shahid Abdullah from karachi (MCB+NIC Tower) and so many others
3. Aesthetics depends upon how fast the clients picks up ur design. Economics can be a constraint.
4. Not always the designers fault. Clients mentality is sometime stronger than your design!
Reason why I talked about issues is there are several factors and issues that one might not see until they are discussed. You may have read them earlier but do not have a detail idea how they are effecting the overall design.
Discussing myself was to vomit out the intentions of the discussion. And talking about my thesis was reply to this "This is a field in which the architects are relatively newer. And i said, i hope the newer generation of architects do come up with aesthetically good and efficient designs."
So sometime you have to explain a short thing via a longer route!
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 08:29 PM Hmm.....I guess when i refreshed my account of photobucket a year ago, it must have been deleted!
Ill reload it post it in the relevant section.
KB February 3rd, 2008, 08:40 PM I can't find the render of State Life.
i have looked for it.
quoting yourself?
:crazy:
Anyway, i have put it up on the State Life Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=18165083#post18165083) for the amusement of everyone.
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 08:53 PM Again you are missing the point...so if someone unprofessional and unqualified guy is doing it for half the money...does that mean the good ones are out of business now? If no...then they do some job atleast or have all the highrises in pakistan been developed by civil engineers?...so where is it? Tell me one highrise that was built by the non-unprofessionals and that can be referred to as brilliant or eye-catching?
It not that I am getting jobless. Why did I refer to RIBA btw? It is because there is a strong institution in UK that does not allow anyone else than architects to design structure. Civil Engineers and contractor have a differenet role to play and not design it the way architects do. The problem here is that professionals others than architects tend to poke their nose in our work. My point is why should they get a project, how could they even in half the money! The result is that building may not turn out to be very eye catching and rather eye-sores. Your mentioning my point in the other way around. There are so many examples of such nose-poking, largely in smaller projects which are not known to you all, but major examples are the low-rise commercial buildings in the Blue Area. There are so many of them! Find one youself.
KB February 3rd, 2008, 09:54 PM Prime examples of what I am talking about.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z38/AbidSiddiqui/SS/ss5.jpg
State life tower and Shaheed-e-millat secretariat.
And the all new render
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Techno-Architect/ISLAMABAD/Islamabad-StateLifeTower61Jinnah-1.jpg
Techno-Architect February 3rd, 2008, 10:08 PM Prime examples of what I am talking about.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z38/AbidSiddiqui/SS/ss5.jpg
State life tower and Shaheed-e-millat secretariat.
These are mid-risers, try quoting the low-rise building on the other side of the road. Those are the one Im talking about mossly designed by non-professionals!
Its is very difficult that non-professional can get hold of a mid-rise projects.
It is State Life Building & not State life tower, that will cause a confusion.
Intoxication February 3rd, 2008, 10:13 PM State Life already has one building in ISB, why would they want another one? That too an ugly one.
KB May 24th, 2008, 11:16 PM A video about the use of concrete from ancient times to modern times.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8488090630583709313&q=airport+construction&ei=F3g4SLCZNYWcigLgu9jtAw&hl=en
including a cool design of the Railway station at Lyon airport.
KB May 24th, 2008, 11:17 PM Construction of the tallest hotel in the world, the Burj Al Arab
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7302791550212891575&hl=en
KB May 24th, 2008, 11:47 PM How Did They Build That - Tall Buildings
http://www.teachers.tv/video/24795
A video documentary about ancient skyscrapers in Italy, early tall buildings in liverpool and the smart design of the commerz bank tower in frankfurt. A nice watch!
Intoxication May 24th, 2008, 11:56 PM ^^ I've always wanted to watch "How Did They Build That - Tall Buildings". Missed it when it was on TV. Thank you so much!
brightside. May 24th, 2008, 11:59 PM I saw a long Discovery episode on the construction of the Turning Torso building mentioned by UnitedPakistan on the first page.
If anyone can find a link to that, it's an awesome episode. I'll try to find the link later if anybody dosen't beat me to it.
KB May 25th, 2008, 12:17 AM Glad you guys liked the videos :happy:
Here's another...the city of the pyramid, Tokyo (proposed).
Part 1
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Part 2
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Part 3
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Part 4
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KB May 25th, 2008, 12:21 AM I saw a long Discovery episode on the construction of the Turning Torso building mentioned by UnitedPakistan on the first page.
If anyone can find a link to that, it's an awesome episode. I'll try to find the link later if anybody dosen't beat me to it.
Extreme Engineering- The Turning Torso
Part 1
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brightside. May 25th, 2008, 12:26 AM Yes! That is it! :happy:
Thanks KB, I'm gonna watch it again.
brightside. May 25th, 2008, 06:05 PM A video about the use of concrete from ancient times to modern times.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8488090630583709313&q=airport+construction&ei=F3g4SLCZNYWcigLgu9jtAw&hl=en
including a cool design of the Railway station at Lyon airport.
Just finished watching that documentary. Very informative! The Satolas TGV railway station at Lyon airport is absolutely stunning. I can't believe it's built from concrete.
The documentary has nice info on reinforced concrete. We should build a similar train station at one of our air ports.
Pakia September 16th, 2008, 11:34 PM http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/2847752724_807cfffbc1.jpg?v=0
An upside down house is seen in Trassenheide, Germany, Thursday, Sept. 4, 2008. The house was built to enable an alternative view on everyday life for visitors. (AP Photo/Frank Hormann)
PakNorway September 17th, 2008, 12:34 AM http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/archive/00582/oslo_582657i.jpg
More pictures can be seen here:
http://www.dn.no/bilder/article1423856.ece
Click "neste" to see next picture.
Mojojojo. September 17th, 2008, 04:17 AM :nuts::nuts::nuts:
cnt believe it
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=606723
KB November 22nd, 2008, 08:50 PM The Shanghai World Financial Centre, the world’s second-tallest building that some say resembles an elegant bottle opener, was named on Thursday by architects as the best skyscraper completed this year.
“The simplicity of its form as well as its size dramatises the idea of the skyscraper,” said Carol Willis of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, an international group of architects and engineers.
The Shanghai tower was design by architectural firm Kohn Pederson Fox Associates, which was founded in New York and has offices worldwide. Architect Tim Johnson, who led the council’s selection committee, cited the building’s innovative structural design. Steel trusses gird against the forces of wind and earthquake and “made the building lighter, made it use less steel, and contributed to its sustainability,” he said in an interview.
“The tower’s tapered form creates the impression it is dissolving into the heavens,” he added. The Council on Tall Buildings is the body that determines the world’s tallest building — a designation that seems to jump around the globe and will soon shift to Dubai.
Continue... (http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\11\22\story_22-11-2008_pg9_5)
KB November 22nd, 2008, 09:01 PM Here are a couple of picture of the mentioned tower.
http://www.privateclubthai.com/dbs/forum/CGCH7GJ_ShanghaiWorldFinancialCenter5medium.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y162/cityz/Urban/ShanghaiWorldFinancialCenter2.jpg
Aadil.Aijaz November 23rd, 2008, 09:00 AM wow
Khanabadosh November 23rd, 2008, 01:05 PM SWFC is an elegant and dominating skyscraper.
siamu maharaj November 23rd, 2008, 08:00 PM Why's this thread here?
KB November 26th, 2008, 01:15 AM Part 1
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EMP November 27th, 2008, 09:05 AM excellent videos thanks kkboy.....
siamu maharaj November 27th, 2008, 05:25 PM WHY IS THIS THREAD IN THIS FORUM??????????????????????????
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN????
KB November 27th, 2008, 05:46 PM WHY IS THIS THREAD IN THIS FORUM??????????????????????????
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN????
Yes
1. Because it is related to architecture and infrastructure
2. We actually want to promote these kinds of threads rather then letting it die in gupshup (as in going down in a pile of threads ).
Not the logical place maybe, but currently the best option i can think of.
brightside. December 29th, 2008, 08:40 PM So whats you guys' favorite skyscraper? Mine has to be the Comcast Tower in Philadelphia. It's an absolutely stunning, all glass building :drool:
It got completed very recently, I remember posting in its thread on SSC when it got completed. My first completion celebration on SSC was for this tower :happy:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/488880506_632abd3533_b.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1198/760770773_15a4a85dc4_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/2927755181_e6476f295c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/2468589781_597a14da30_b.jpg
FK December 30th, 2008, 04:43 AM Trump Tower Toronto:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Rendering_trump_tower_toronto.jpg
Look at the base and look at the top!
siamu maharaj December 30th, 2008, 06:10 AM Trump Tower Toronto:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Rendering_trump_tower_toronto.jpg
Look at the base and look at the top!
The base is from Manhattan, the top's from Middle East.
brightside. December 30th, 2008, 11:01 AM Trump Tower Toronto:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Rendering_trump_tower_toronto.jpg
Look at the base and look at the top!
Is that a real tower? Does it exist or is that just a proposed/UC project?
The Trump Tower in Manhattan ain't bad either.
FK December 30th, 2008, 05:13 PM Is that a real tower? Does it exist or is that just a proposed/UC project?
The Trump Tower in Manhattan ain't bad either.
Its real and U/C.
The Donald! :rock:
http://www.gamblegroup.com/img/DJTmodel_96dpi.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/3093959130_152f728d23_b.jpg
KB December 31st, 2008, 07:40 PM aqua, usa
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7089/2053162920f8e1fc0679294bu4.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1108/2052377167cfd66b77df294ls0.jpg
chicago spire, usa
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9206/2053244250fe420437e7294pd5.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6279/2052379919cf95ceb45c294zg1.jpg
cctv headquarters, china
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6841/20523809912a9192f2e9294ev7.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1773/20531673063c514cbcc1294qb0.jpg
KB December 31st, 2008, 07:40 PM regatta hotel, jakarta
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9503/20523788994b9453f154294fh3.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8949/2053166246f3d54906e8294px3.jpg
penang global city centre, malaysia
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2959/205237806193f663947c294dh5.jpg
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/1477/20534287848a7f0da377294bc3.jpg
gazprom headquarters, russia
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6451/2054092075f3d737b7a6294as6.jpg
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6488/205409211106a5025a4c294mh2.jpg
KB December 31st, 2008, 07:48 PM My favorite architectural design
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2514095398_34d4317e15_o.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/225644494_004de5465f_o.jpg
My other favorite building
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/3140449371_e5db68dc1d_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/2824415741_7d8a2c029d_o.jpg
Pakia January 14th, 2009, 02:30 PM http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/228673603_8feeafc6a8_o.jpg
Lisbon, Potugal. I love it.
Red aRRow January 14th, 2009, 10:08 PM Its real and U/C.
The Donald! :rock:
Is that a Cuckoo's nest on his head?
KB February 28th, 2013, 07:07 AM Trying to revive this thread..
Dubai Technosphere
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/10/globe1_01.jpg
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2009/10/globe3.jpg
Pyramid office complex in indianapolis
http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/20100519/640/strange_architecture_640_01.jpg
KB February 28th, 2013, 07:08 AM Dubai Anara tower
http://www.graphicmania.net/wp-content/uploads/anaratower.jpg
http://www.graphicmania.net/wp-content/uploads/anaratower_2.jpg
http://www.graphicmania.net/wp-content/uploads/anaratowerrendering.jpg
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