This is not architecture that should caracterize the main square in a city like Skopje. I cannot believe that they didnt make a concourse for this space? At least because of Officire's house and Dusan's bridge as main mark places of the city. It's unfortune if they really build this. Its better to stay like it is, than to build these dishes...

What is your opinion about this project? Do you like it....

can't make up my mind still. It's far too important location to make a clear judgment immediately. On most other locations I would probably like it.

Anyways I kinda dislike the frontside especially the circular thing on the top for some reason.

The rendering is too bad to recognize all the details but the side facing Vardar should look very nice if all the details are chose well (for example the shade and transparency level of the glass).

That's my opinion as far as the render goes. Additional uncertinity in all this is that the actual objects look quite different than the renderings in MK as the experience has shown. Luckily for the better part the actual buildings are better than the renderings and I hope that will be the case here too.

:cheers:

This is not architecture that should caracterize the main square in a city like Skopje. I cannot believe that they didnt make a concourse for this space? At least because of Officire's house and Dusan's bridge as main mark places of the city. It's unfortune if they really build this. Its better to stay like it is, than to build these dishes...

for a big part I agree with you :ohno:

there should have been not just an DUP but detail masterplan for the visuals of the buildings in this area.

The way it goes now the only limitations the investors have are the height of the object and the area of the parcel. The visualization of the object is up to them.

can't make up my mind still. It's far too important location to make a clear judgment immediately. On most other locations I would definitely like it.

Anyways I kinda dislike the frontside especially the circular thing on the top for some reason.

The rendering is too bad to recognize all the details but the side facing Vardar should look very nice if all the details are chose well (for example the shade and transparency level of the glass).

That's my opinion as far as the render goes. Additional uncertinity in all this is that the actual objects look quite different than the renderings in MK as the experience has shown. Luckily for the better part the actual buildings are better than the renderings and I hope that will be the case here too.

:cheers:

I think that the shape is very similar like the City House from the opposite side of this building , and it will be something like contrast between modern and old Skopje architecture. I think it will be nice. - My opinion

^^

blejd proveri si gi privatnite poraki, ti pisav nesto :cheers:

So they're building this project on the place of the National Bank...? I kinda like it but I don't think it will fit with the neo-classical Officers Dom right across from it.

^^I like that project too but i don't think they should build the officers dom in that case, make it all more modern around the square.

Seeing the whole "Mal Ring" and Square Macedonia go to hell, I don't even care anymore about such "details" how will the remake of the bank fit across the officers hall...

Yeah, I know I used to put under scrutiny every detail in the past, making objections all over the place... But considering the current assault on the aesthetic and urbanistic fundamentals of the area, the agenda has changed. Let's just hope they don't massacre the place completely...

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I have visited Skopje last year and it is an interesting city.

Those two TV shots of the project are quite enough for me to consider that it is very anachronistic and totally ignores the surroundings.

If this is definitive, maybe it will satisfy the interests of today, but with an expensive price for the tomorrow. Europe is not China.

I have visited Skopje last year and it is an interesting city.

Those two TV shots of the project are quite enough for me to consider that it is very anachronistic and totally ignores the surroundings.


This is the original building from that spot and the new one is supposed to be a modern version of it. I think they failed, some details on it like that dish on the top as Ventilator said are quite tacky.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8382/dosl17an.jpg

If this is definitive, maybe it will satisfy the interests of today, but with an expensive price for the tomorrow. Europe is not China.

Well said. The cost of this transitional architecture is getting too high. It's OK having it in the suburbs but this location is just too important.

^^That's architecture. You can say I like it or I don't. But it would be difficult to say that, that building wasn't in relation with the city or the epoch. (I have also seen a thread about the old Skopje).

The new building they have designed with be in relationship with the Makedonija Plaza in Skopje as the Twin Towers Business Center is in relationship with the Skenderbeu Boulevard in Tirana. In practice... no relationship.

^^

you hit the spot again. The plaza will be nothing but a mosaic of unrelated styles and buildings (not a way a plaza should be).

The sad part is that this building is not our biggest concern. They are pushing a project for a big cathedral on Location No. 4 on that map (BTW such a location is not even designated in the DUP). That is the major disaster point at the moment, the influence that the project we are discussing will make looks trivial in opposing to the damage that such a church on such a location will do. Sad but true :ohno:

I really liked how the old bank looked, but I think that the old Bank and Oficerski Dom are two icons of Skopje that go together. If they are rebuilding the Dom with its original architecture than they should do the same with the bank too. Otherwise the achitectural feel of Skopje's center will be very unbalanced (or even more unbalanced than it is now...)

The sad part is that this building is not our biggest concern. They are pushing a project for a big cathedral on Location No. 4 on that map (BTW such a location is not even designated in the DUP). That is the major disaster point at the moment, the influence that the project we are discussing will make looks trivial in opposing to the damage that such a church on such a location will do. Sad but true :ohno:

The area n. 4 seems too small for a cathedral.

The area n. 4 seems too small for a cathedral.

it is but that's the least of the problems. As you've been in Skopje if you remember the surroundings on No. 4 U can imagine how ridiculous will a cathedral or any church look in that context. Ridiculous is a mild word, disgusting is the right one :ohno:

^^Well, the construction of the big churches in the middle of the capitals is the most influent trend in the post-communist Balkan countries. Belgrade has adjust itself, Tirana is in the way of adjusting it too.

You can have more probabilities to interrupt the construction of the building number 3 than the construction of the cathedral.

I suppose, this is the mediocre way that the politicians of today are trying to restablish the relations with the clerics.

Eventhough I like very much the churches and hope the people of our countries enhace their spirituality and also I think it's correct to compensate the gap with the past, I don't agree with the methods and the way (technically and estetically) they are doing this.

^^

I agree yet again :)

It's hard for me to understand this urge for compensating the gap you are mentioning. On one side we had less then 50 years of communism (which didn't even prohibit religion in the Macedonian case). On other side we live in a region with such rich sacral architectural heritage be it Christian or Muslim, 100s of years old. Do we have anything to compensate really?

You know we've been in transition for almost half of the period that we've been in communism. I think it's about time we snap out of it and start acting normal for a change. At least in the Macedonian case this fake 'going-to-the-roots-getting-religious-all-of-the-sudden' crap is seriously turning epidemic. :ohno:

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Agreed.


On one side we had less then 50 years of communism (which didn't even prohibit religion in the Macedonian case).

Not only that, but during the late socialism, this beautiful landmark was constructed:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n16/djurob/529Soborenhram.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3684/dscf0503ah2.jpg

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3448/2856135img0725copy12nzey1.jpg

^^Beautiful!

I have seen a lot of Catholic modern style churches (Mayer in Rome, for example), but I had never seen an Orthodox one.

Really beautiful!

As you see dewrob it's not a question of "why", but of "how".

Mediocre politics - mediocre architecture (and not only that) and viceversa.


That's the reason why many people in Balkans are so nostalgic of the communism epoch, eventhough it was a dictature regime.

But the ugliness we assist today is the conseguence of that regime.


Actually they don't offer solutions, but ideologies and hate... as usual... in the Balkans.


I agree with you too dewrob

Please let's return to talk about architecture. I don't want to attract "spammers":)

Please let's return to talk about architecture. I don't want to attract "spammers":)

Oh U are right :) We already have more than enough bate material :lol:

So my friends, what will this year (2008) bring to Skopje? What can we look forward to?

I'd personally be happy with the following:
- opening of Boris Trajkovski arena
- new stadium, but if not, then reconstruction of old grounds
- project & financing for new LRT system
- construction start of Skopje's first real skyscraper
- new cultural contents

So my friends, what will this year (2008) bring to Skopje? What can we look forward to?

I'd personally be happy with the following:
- opening of Boris Trajkovski arena
- new stadium, but if not, then reconstruction of old grounds
- project & financing for new LRT system
- construction start of Skopje's first real skyscraper
- new cultural contents


1. Yes - only one month away
2. Yes - partially, it will still be under construction by the end of the year
3. Possibly, hopefully
4. No way (perhaps only an announcement, but even that is quite optimistic)
5. Yes - several, hopefully the controversial ones will be scraped.

Bonus:
1. The northern bypass
2. Central traffic control and computerized intersections (delayed from 2007)
3. ~60 new buses for the public transport company owned by the city
4. Several big commercial and office buildings going u/c

So my friends, what will this year (2008) bring to Skopje? What can we look forward to?

I'd personally be happy with the following:
- opening of Boris Trajkovski arena
- new stadium, but if not, then reconstruction of old grounds
- project & financing for new LRT system
- construction start of Skopje's first real skyscraper
- new cultural contents

Hopefully it'll bring a Macedonian victory against Serbia:)
What kind of squad is Serbia bringing for the match?

3а спортската сала ќе се градат две нови улици


Во објектот целосно ќе бидат опремени големата и малата сала, а кугларницата ќе остане само карабина

Сања Наумовска

Спортската сала „Борис Трајковски“ ќе има паркинг-места за над 650 автомобили и 40 автобуси. Паркиралишта се предвидени од сите страни околу објектот, а ќе бидат поврзани со две сообраќајници, кон булеварот „8 Септември“, покрај хотелот „Александар палас“ и кон „Илинденска“, покрај базенот „Младост“. Моментно, во тек е изградбата на паркинзите, тротоарите и едната улица. Од јавното претпријатие велат дека преговараат со Градот Скопје и со Општина Карпош да ја направат втората сообраќајница, која е од јавен интерес и во нивна надлежност. Се работи и на партерот пред главниот влез на спортскиот објект, од јужната страна, кој целосно се поплочува со гранит.

Градежните тимови од „Маврово“ работат и на затворањето на јужната страна од фасадата со надворешните стакла. Во внатрешноста се фарбаат трибините, на кои во почетокот на март ќе започне монтирањето на столчињата. Завршена е изведбата на системите за ладење и греење и вентилација, а се доработува и илуминацијата. Во објектот веќе има вода, а моментно се копа за поврзување со градската топловодна мрежа.

Според директорот Борис Змејковски, и покрај тековните проблеми, работите се одвиваат во зацртаното темпо и салата ќе биде готова до април. „Кога ќе биде предадена спортската сала, целосно ќе бидат опремени големата и малата сала. Во големата ќе има спортска опрема за ракомет, кошарка, бокс и професионална бина за забавни настани. Малата сала има 500 седишта и е специјализирана за кошарка. Што се однесува до салите за куглање, за фитнес, сауната и други слични делови, тие ќе бидат во состојба на карабина, без опрема“, вели Змејковски со најава за посебна програма, која наскоро ќе ја поднесе до Владата за потребните средства и време за доопремување и на овие простории. Завршени се и санитариите и ходниците, а деновиве ќе се поставува и ситната опрема во тоалетите. Целокупната спортска опрема за двете сали е веќе набавена и чека во царинските складишта да почне монтирањето.

До отворањето во април, во салата ќе се постави и системот за набљудување со камери. Во објектот ќе се влегува од повеќе страни, а посебни скали ќе водат кон трибините. Според барањата на меѓународните спортски организации, на најгорниот ред од западната трибина ќе има 27 места за коментатори со по два монитора, како и 12 места за снимање со камери.

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Fresh construction updates from several sites


The Stadium :cheers:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/19EF18FAD3BC5049BE562DBF34181DA0.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture005_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture006_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture007_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture008_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture009_resize.jpg


Kontinental Interchange
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http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/P2160028.jpg


The American fortre.... ummm... embassy

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture001_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture002_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture003_resize.jpg


NLB Tutunska HQ

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture010_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture011_resize.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture012_resize.jpg


Conservation/Reconstruction works at Kale
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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture019_resize.jpg


A small office building
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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture013_resize.jpg

another one
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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture017_resize.jpg

The stadium is very nice. :)

nice pics thanx realek

Realek, for the building you posted a picture of (NLB Headquarters) that is the one beside Ramstore, right? I thought that was going to be a hotel! Or was that just the previous plan of Vlado Buckovski and the SDSM?

That's the building alright, but it's first time I hear about a hotel plan. I don't think that location was planed for hotel even then.

Ok, i think i am mixing up the location. The proposed hotel location is behind Ramstore. If you are familiar, there is a "Restoran Makedonija" or something along those lines, and a bunch of "baraki" i dont know how to translate :P This land is planned for a hotel and ANOTHER shopping centre.. unbelievable. I don't know what is the word on this proposed investment though

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The hotel is 31

32 will be some kind of mall/shops

left/up from 31 there will be an office building

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/221/privzgolringuremay7.jpg

Ok this makes a lot more sense, thank you Realek! The new buildings (31) are basically beside ramstore, on the Southern Boulevard. The restaurants i was referring to are just to the left of 33, i guess they will be staying put, for now :) :cheers:

Ok this makes a lot more sense, thank you Realek! The new buildings (31) are basically beside ramstore, on the Southern Boulevard. The restaurants i was referring to are just to the left of 33, i guess they will be staying put, for now :) :cheers:

33 is where today's flower market is. The restaurant I think you're referring to is above where it says "Europa" on the google earth screenshot.

So, here's what's happening in the strict center of the city lately:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/mal-ring-sluc-1.jpg


1. Rebuilding of the Officer's House destroyed in the 1963 earthquake. It will be used by the mayor and his administration. Should start construction this year and finish 2010.

2. Office building. Should start construction in march/april and be completed within year and a half. Cost: 12M Euro.

3. Multilevel parking garage (part of the previous project). Should start construction in march/april and be completed within year and a half.

4. Underground street. In addition to linking the garage, in the future will be one of the links for the planned parking facility under the square. Should be finished before the garage.

5,6. A huge fountain and monuments. Undergoing administrative procedures.

7. Renovation of the "TIPO" building. The exterior is finished, they are putting last touches in the interior. Cost: 2M Euro.

8. Lumix Center. Delayed beyond reason. Finally looks like it's about to be opened.

9. Big resurfacing project in the whole area around

10. Turning the street into a pedestrian zone and supplying the adequate "urban equipment"

11. Office building. Delayed beyond reason.

12. Small hotel. Cost 5M Euro.

13. Office building. Almost finished.

14. Office/Residential building. Nearing completion.

15. Hotel + Office building + Multilevel garage. Stuck in legal problems. Cost 12M Euro.

16. Small reconstruction project.

17. Mother Theresa memorial house. The project looks awful!!! Construction supposed to start in march/april. I hope it doesn't!

18. Soravia Center. Completing the unfinished building. They bought it for more than 10 and are investing additional 20 million euro. Almost finished.

19. Reconstruction/additional floor on the GTC mall. No credible dates/deadlines.

20. A pedestrian bridge called the "flower bridge". Construction starts sometime this year. Cost: 450000 euro.

21. Restauration of the Stone Bridge. Took years already, but finally they should complete it this year. Total cost is about 5M Euro.

22. Museum complex "Macedonian struggle". The competition is over and they are pushing the project, but I don't have a clue about dates/deadlines.

23. Rebuilding of the old theater destroyed in the 1963 earthquake. Construction started in 2007. Should be finished in 2009.

24. Holocaust Memorial Center. Construction started in 2005 and was supposed to finish in march this year, but it will definitely take at least few more months.

25. A new Philharmonic building. Great project IMO. Construction will hopefully tart in april and finish in 2009.

26. A retarded beach project... Another "bright" idea by the mayor. Totally inadequate location, but the peasants living in the city seem to think it's great. They announced that they are about to start construction... I hope their term ends before they do it.

Great updates! The vardar beach is the most stupid idea I have ever heard of, is the water even clean (safe) for the public? And what about the church in the main square...

Great updates! The vardar beach is the most stupid idea I have ever heard of, is the water even clean (safe) for the public? And what about the church in the main square...

I guess the beach is supposed to be only for sunbathing / parading your ass around.

The church doesn't exist in any urban plan and that's why I didn't include it. I hope it stays that way.

BTW what is that big white building behind the stadium? Apartments?

Apartments and offices, but it's practically illegal and obtained permits due to heavy corruption (two persons are serving prison sentences atm). The wider case is still in court and it's possible that the building will be demolished.

Realek, i always wanted to ask you guys about the building "11"... when i was in skopje in the summer it looked pretty sad that a building on an area like that is literally only bricks/concrete and grass growing between the bricks...shame, any ideas whats up with this stalled development?

as for "26"... "GREAT" the gypos will finally get there own version of gradiste beach :)

number "5" ...hmmm, not fountain, alexander the great statue last i heard.

what the hell are "6" ment to be??

Realek, i always wanted to ask you guys about the building "11"... when i was in skopje in the summer it looked pretty sad that a building on an area like that is literally only bricks/concrete and grass growing between the bricks...shame, any ideas whats up with this stalled development?

as for "26"... "GREAT" the gypos will finally get there own version of gradiste beach :)

number "5" ...hmmm, not fountain, alexander the great statue last i heard.

what the hell are "6" ment to be??

11. It was supposed to be a HQ of a bank, the bank ran into problems, the construction was halted. A member at "build" informed us that now it's Trifun's property, but because he also bought more office space for his businesses, this is surplus for him and that's why it is sitting idle and not finished.

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5. Even if it's going to be a statue, there will be a fountain around it. But you know what I think about their childish populist bull shit.

:toilet:


6. More of their cavalry statues.

You have a much detailed version of this in Macedonian:
http://www.build.com.mk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132&PID=5692#5692

What happened, I heard there was some protest in Skopje over the name recently, stones were thrown at the Greek embassy, is this true?

Hi guys. Realek great round-up of the major projects in the center :cheers: Is the location of that beach definitve?If so how the hell are they gonna do it, will they blend it into the river or just throw some sand on top. And good point by Macedonia, surely no-one will swim in it,unless they've got a death wish or something.

Also the US embassy looks like one ugly mother.....If the location where its being built didnt completely put you off the project, then the project itself surely will.They may yet make it better but its not promising.

^^

Welcome :cheers:


I really don't have many details about the idiotic beach project. I just hope it will not materialize.

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Welcome :cheers:


I really don't have many details about the idiotic beach project. I just hope it will not materialize.

Thanks, I agree its completely ridiculous, but i have a feeling our mayor will give us a nice surprise just before the next elections.

Одобрена е изградба на стокатници и два споменика

Советниците од Центар вчера речиси без дискусија, иако не едногласно, одобрија изградба на два споменика на плоштадот „Македонија“, а гласаа и за урбанистичкиот план кој ќе овозможи на просторот спроти „Холидеј ин“ да никнат стокатници. Со одлуката на Советот е прифатена иницијативата на Министерството за култура на плоштадот да се постават споменици на Методија Андонов - Ченто и на цар Самуил, едниот пред ресторанот „Дал-мет-фу“, а другиот пред кафулето „Тренд“.

За изгледот на спомен-обележјата, допрва ќе биде распишен јавен конкурс во кој ќе бидат познати и термините за конечна реализација на проектите. Засега е утврдено дека сите пари потребни за неопходните процедури ќе треба да ги издвои Општината, на која и' е доделена и обврската за одржување на спомениците по нивното поставување.

Како за спомениците, така и за стокатниците допрва ќе се утврдуваат деталите. Усвоениот ДУП само дава урбанистичка шанса на постојниот паркинг спроти „Холидеј ин“ да се изградат облакодери со максимална висина до 300 метри. Катноста и бројот на висококатниците ќе бидат утврдени со урбанистички проект. (Дс.Т.)

Hmm...

:lol: Mate thats not happening anytime soon, its just a "permission" to build on that particular site not a project or anything. Plus theres still land issues etc.... but its good for a quick laugh i guess.

Why are they always talking that they will build statues? Not one has been built so far...

^^Just talk then i guess...with all the proposals on statues Skopje will have statues at every street:\

statues are generally easier to build than 'stokatnici', so we'll probably see the former first :lol:

As for the latter, you might be interested to hear that the press in neighboring Sofia is also mentioning them:
http://www.zagrada.bg/show.php?storyid=471490

^^

I think the obsession with random articles being written in the neighbouring media is a one way street at the moment ;)

^^ It's not random.. I'm afraid I don't follow what you mean.

finishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..

Here's the progress at the national stadium. These are from 3 weeks ago:

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture011.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture003-1.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture007-1.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture005-1.jpg

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http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture002-2.jpg

And another one from the same period, taken by member mitatos who was attending a football match :D

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/mitatos/Gradski01.png

heheheh i wasent watching the match, i just took the photo for the forum lool :D

even better, nerd :poke:

:D

what is that building behind?

Aren't the residentials too close to the new stand... The project of the stadium itself is good I saw the render in the exEE section.

what is that building behind?

That is a de facto illegal building, but de jure the situation is still not cleared. There is a trial going on, but it is still unclear what will happen to it. We're all hoping it will be knocked down. In the meanwhile it remains an eyesore...

The legal problem is that corrupt officials gave permissions for the building, so the situation is very shady and complicated, and the conspiracy needs to be proved in court in order for the state to take the appropriate measures. ATM two people are serving jail time for breaking the law in connection with it.

If the building is not knocked down it will be a big shame, because it is too close and will ruin the look of what should be a beautiful stadium...

:bash:

I know one building has been knocked down? or i am mistaken?

I know one building has been knocked down? or i am mistaken?

Several buildings across Skopje have been knocked down lately, but perhaps you are thinking about this building anyway, because parts of it were also demolished (believe it or not, the investor even dared to exceed the height limitation in his corruptively obtained permissions)

:nuts:

Balkan classics :|

yes i was talking about that one near stadium. So only one part suffered:)

You can now spread to more threads, open separate threads for separate projects :cheers:

Aren't the residentials too close to the new stand... The project of the stadium itself is good I saw the render in the exEE section.

they are too close. In fact they shouldn't even be there, it's just a transitional structure at a very very wrong place. What was planned for the locatioin was P+2 hotel.

On the bright side I will love it when the idiots who bought apartments in such illegal building will have to suffer the noise during football games and will have their cars demolished by the hooligans. What goes around comes around.

It's going to be great watching the Komiti Fan Club destroy the Jaguars of the small minded idiots who buy appartments there :)

Don't they have undergound parking lots there, under the building? I can't imagine someone that can afford a jaguar and cannot afford a garage for it, he must be an idiot :)

That is a de facto illegal building, but de jure the situation is still not cleared. There is a trial going on, but it is still unclear what will happen to it. We're all hoping it will be knocked down. In the meanwhile it remains an eyesore...

The legal problem is that corrupt officials gave permissions for the building, so the situation is very shady and complicated, and the conspiracy needs to be proved in court in order for the state to take the appropriate measures. ATM two people are serving jail time for breaking the law in connection with it.

If the building is not knocked down it will be a big shame, because it is too close and will ruin the look of what should be a beautiful stadium...

:bash:

Well technically its legal in accordance with the new DUP (Except the top floor which is getting knocked down) However how it was made legal in the first place you already mentioned. Initially i think the building was to go to FK Vardar as a sports complex/hotel for the players but ended up as a resedential. :ohno:

As far as its proximity to the stadium, if memory serves me right i think a distance of 8-10 meters was mentioned :dunno: BTW its been nicknamed the chinese wall by the media here.

BTW if anyone is wondering what the building behind the building is (up on the hill) its the new American bunker...errrr....embassy

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii203/mitatos/Gradski01.png

Here it is from another angle, pic by Realek :okay:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture003_resize.jpg

it really looks like a bunker! Why the heck do they need such a big building in Skopje?!
I guess those conspiracy theories are not such BS as they may sound.

Why didn´t FK Vadrar bought that building? They don´t have enough money? And who wants to live there? 8m from stadium with view on wall.

Why didn´t FK Vadrar bought that building? They don´t have enough money?

Well Vardar didnt need to buy the building the land was i think given to them for free to build the sports complex and hotel from which they could make some money.....but you know how things work in the balkans, one of the main sponsors/president of Vardar (the club is not privatised) ended up building this thing for himself and changed it to a residential building, its now owned by some german company i think, its too complicated to understand my head hurts thinking about it, i hope it gets levelled to the ground but i doubt it.....

i wish it could be included as a part of stadium.

i wish it could be included as a part of stadium.

It will only ruin it :(

if good included, not neccesery

I agree with mojaBL, it could be incorporated into the stadium complex, used for adminstrative purposes and office areas could be lent out. But that is easier to do when everything is built form scratch.

I disagree the building should be demolished and I hope it will be. There are certain distances and rules about this facilities that should be followed at first place. We have similar problems - just messed up administrations.

Personally id like to see the thing levelled but thats very difficult its a legal nightmare. It could be "incorporated" into the stand as mojabl and Alle have said even though the stadium will have its own administrative/office space.

I think dewrob has posted these pics before but just to give you an idea, all pics are from the side of the new stand, you can see those massive exit/entry ramps that will practically surround the building :nuts: maybe they will build a bridge over vardar as an entry :lol: :lol: Thats what happens when absolute idiots and criminals are in charge :bash:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/bscap0004.jpg


http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/bscap0003.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/bscap0000.jpg

^^

What will be the capacity of the stadium?

~35k I think

I heard the stadium will hold over 40,000

Anyway I found this picture of the Skopje Kale, I find it funny how on the left side, it has been perfectly rebuilt, and the right side (which I think overlooks Skopje's Square?) has been left in ruins. Any plans to rebuild the other side and finish the job?


http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn59/macedonia99999999/2480660595_283587468e_b.jpg

I heard the stadium will hold over 40,000

Yes, if those extra few thousands are accommodated up the asses of lying politicians and incompetent journalists.

We have the basic stuff to calculate roughly its future capacity (taken that it will be an all-seater, which it will be), so they can't pull us by our noses like for the capacity of the Boris Trajkovski Arena.

Throwing around random optimistic numbers by all kinds of sources just speaks about the accountability of our politicians and the quality of our media.

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Anyway I found this picture of the Skopje Kale, I find it funny how on the left side, it has been perfectly rebuilt, and the right side (which I think overlooks Skopje's Square?) has been left in ruins. Any plans to rebuild the other side and finish the job?


Perhaps the reconstructed part was much easier to reconstruct in many aspects, so that's why they did it like that back then.
There is a big archaeological and reconstruction project going on right now, but the exact extent of it and what exactly should be rebuilt is a mystery to me (again thanks to the mentioned quality of the media and the "transparency" of the authorities).

Any plans to rebuild the other side and finish the job?



Im sure there are plans but as realek said what its supposed to look like and when it will be finished is anyones guess. I mean the same thing is happening with the stonebridge....renovations going on for over a decade :ohno: :bash:

New building going up in Skopje I don't think its been mentioned here.
Construction has already started to be finished by December 2009 or so they say :)

Pics originally posted by build member pbanks

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos2.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos1.jpg

As is currently

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/GetOneShot.jpg

nice project.

^^ I like it too. For once BL and I are on the same opinion.

i don´t think it will last :)

i don´t think it will last :)

I never doubted that.:)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos2.jpg




Really cool project :okay:

I was comparing the new National Bank render with the old national bank that stood in the same place. Are these bad graphics, or is the new national bank going to be much smaller in size compared to the old bank? :ohno:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm226/macedonia999/bank.jpg

It is going to be somewhat smaller because after the earthquake the quay was made wider and there is no place to build a building with the original base size. But I don't see the big deal because it is not a reconstruction at all imo, it is a completely different building.

I love the old one.

So I guess the oficerski dom right across from it will also be smaller than the original?

No, there is free space for it to be moved few meters. It will be the original size and almost the original appearance.

A home made video of the new sports arena from our member blejdsk which he posted on the build.com.mk forum :okay:

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What's going on with the church that is supposed to be built in Skopje's main square? Did they pick a design for it yet? I don't know why the government is going through so much trouble to build this church and are paying people to come up with a design for it. What kind of design could it possibly have? I hope they choose normal traditional orthodox church architecture, I mean having a church in the city square is already a crazy idea, but could you imagine if the church had some weird modern design...

but could you imagine if the church had some weird modern design...

IMHO, that is actually the only hope that the square will not be totally fucked up. But I'm 100% against any kind of church there.

^^

I don't know about that, I think a church like this won't be so bad (picture from Athens photo thread).
Also the square is changing, especially after when the oficerski dom is built.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6621/pic0103largegw1.jpg

Also the square is changing, especially after when the oficerski dom is built.


The Oficerski will be built on a space that was designated for it in the original urbanistic plan. The church (in addition to a lot of other unacceptable things concerning it) is being forcefully squeezed in a small space that is inappropriate in every aspect imaginable.

The arena is officially open. Pics thanks to LaLinea and lslcrew from build.com.mk

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Koliko gledatelja prima ova dvorana ?

8000 (6000 fixed + 2000 on the removable stands)

Definitely better with the people inside, dia was right :okay: looks great

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/46056074.jpg

Is this the sports hall across Urania in the city park, or is it a totally new thing? Also, is the soccer stadium finished yet?

Is this the sports hall across Urania in the city park, or is it a totally new thing?

Totally new! :D


Also, is the soccer stadium finished yet?

Come on, they started 4 months ago, give it some time dude :lol:

Totally new! :D

Looks very good :D Where is it?

Come on, they started 4 months ago, give it some time dude :lol:

Eh.. who keeps track? ;) I kinda liked it only on one side because it made it look taller, but I guess it's meant to encompass the whole field. I like how the slant is steep on the old part..

Konacno - odlicno izgleda arena:okay:
Ko ce igrati u njoj? Rabotnicki?

Bilo bi lepo kad bi se konacno pridruzio Jadranskoj ligi.

Congratulations to all Skojians.

Ko ce igrati u njoj? Rabotnicki?


Rabotnicki are very attached to their current shitty "Park Arena" (both the basketball and the volleyball teams), so I'm not 100% sure they will make the move unless for international matches when they can expect larger crowds for example.
But I bet Kometal G.P. will make the move asap. They currently play in "SRC Kale"
Also Vardar (handball) might move from their "Rasadnik"
MZT (basketball) will surely stay in theirs in Aerodrom.

All in all, only Kometal are sure IMO, and some others smaller teams.

The arena looks great :cheers:

I think this has been mentioned several times already but ERAcity will finally start construction after ooohh 5-6 years of announcements :bash: They've managed to finally select a company to build the thing, the office building is expected to be completed in 12 months and the whole thing in 5 years :ohno:
Total investment 155M euros


Гранит ќе го гради ЕРА Сити во Скопје
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Конзорциумот на македонски изведувачи предводени од Гранит е избран за најдобар понудувач на тендерот за изградба на комплексот Ера Сити на словенечката Групација ЕРА, што во наредните пет години треба да се изгради на просторот кај Скопски саем.
”Предноста за изведување на градежните работи ја доверивме на најдобриот понудувач кој обезбедува висок квалитет на градежни работи. Понуди испратија градежни компании од Македонија и ЕУ, меѓутоа, инвеститорот сепак на крајот се одлучи за конзорциум на домашни, односно македонски изведувачи кои ги предводи Гранит како носител на работата”, велат од ЕРА.
Според најавите од компанијата, денеска ќе започне изградбата на комуналната инфраструктура и на комерцијално-деловната зграда, која претставува приоритетен објект од целокупниот комплекс Ера Сити. Таа треба да биде готова за една година. Паралелно ќе продолжи и изградбата на комплексот и другите предвидени објекти кои ќе бидат со различни дејности со најсовремен деловен, трговски и забавен карактер во регионот.
“Веќе длабоко влеговме во разговори со потенцијалните партнери за двата шопинг мола, односно трговски центри. Нашата цел е до наесен со партнерите да ги договориме сите услови на заедничка изградба на двата трговски центри. Со тоа ќе постигнеме истовремено завршување на главните објекти на комплексот”, додаваат од ЕРА.
Во наредните пет години Групацијата ЕРА ќе го гради најголемиот деловен комплекс според планираниот динамичен план. Вредноста на целата инвестиција на комплексот Ера Сити ќе изнесува приближно 155 милиони евра, што Групацијата Ера ќе ги реализира преку партнерства
(Тотал)

They are starting with building no. 3

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3966/era3757urbanplanyq0.jpg

The building itself looks to be changed slightly, this an older pic which is pretty close to what will be built.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4755/era3956eracity003rw1.jpg

Ќе почне да се гради трамвајската траса во Скопје

Градоначалникот очекува голема финансиска помош од европските фондови

Трамваите ќе возат по крајните десни коловозни ленти одвоени од останатиот коловоз со безбедносна ограда

Деспина Трајковска

„Во декември очекуваме да почне да се гради првата делница од трамвајската траса во градов, од Ново Лисиче до Центар“, најави вчера со голем оптимизам градоначалникот Трифун Костовски. Предвидено е изведбата на оваа траса да трае една година, за што Градот ќе издвои 1,5 милиони евра од вкупно потребните околу 50 милиони, кои градските власти се надеваат дека ќе ги обезбедат од европските фондови.

На вчерашната презентација на проектот, градските власти информираа дека денеска ќе биде објавена јавната набавка за изведбен проект на првата фаза од трасата. Предвидено е од Ново Лисиче до Центар во сообраќај да се пуштат шест до осум трамваи, кои ќе возат по крајните десни коловозни ленти одвоени од коловозот со безбедносна ограда. За функционирање на првата делница и воопшто на целата трамвајска раса ќе биде неопходно да се изгради трамвајското депо кое е планирано да биде лоцирано во Ново Лисиче. Во него освен простор за сервисирање и гаражирање на трамваите, ќе се има и контролна соба за сигнализација и нивно управување. Проектот ќе треба да опфати и сигнализација на една раскрсница, набавка на соодветни светлосни семафорски уреди, а ќе се доизгради и булеварот „Видое Смилевски - Бато“ во должина од околу 600 метри и ќе се реконструира една раскрсница. Должината на вкупната траса во градов, која ќе се протега од Ново Лисиче до Ѓорче Петров, изнесува девет километри. Скопјани ќе се возат во нови трамваи, кои чинат од еден до три милиони.

На вчерашната презентација на проектот беше присутен и надворешниот консултант Франк Веиндорф, кој како што рече, има задача да дава препораки како проектот би одговарал на потребите за аплицирање кон фондовите на Европската унија. Свесен дека за изградба на целата трамвајска траса во Скопје ќе бидат потребни неколку години, Костовски неколкупати потенцираше дека не би сакал неговите наследници да го остават проектот како споменик на нечие време. „Трамвајот му е неопходен на Скопје“, рече градскиот татко.






Izvor: UTRINSKI VESNIK


РАСПИШАН ТЕНДЕР ЗА ИЗВЕДБЕН ПРОЕКТ


Скопјани се поблиску до трамвајот


Изградба на првата фаза од трамвајската мрежа од Ново Лисиче до централното градско подрачје треба да започне во декември годинава и да заврши за една година


Скопје е се поблиску до трамвајскиот превоз, а денеска е распишан и тендер за изработка на изведбен проект за првата фаза, која ќе опфати изградба на трамвајска мрежа од населбата Ново Лисиче до централното градско подрачје. Според градоначалникот Трифун Костовски, градежните работи би требало да започнат во декември годинава и да завршат за една година.
- Трамвајската траса ќе се одвива по крајната десна лента од булеварот, која е одвоена со жолта линија, и тоа по булеварите АСНОМ, Србија, Јане Сандански и Кузман Јосифовски Питу. За да се избегне изградба на свртувалиште поради техничките можности на просторот, предложена е кружната траса која треба да поминува покрај хотелот "Холидеј ин" по улицата Васил Аџиларски, да заврти лево кон Градска болница и по улицата 11 Октомври да се врати назад кон Аеродром, објаснува Јован Христовски од Секторот за сообраќај на Град Скопје.

Должината на трасата ќе биде околу 9 километри и ќе биде поставена заштитна ограда кон коловозот за одвојување на трамвајот од остатокот на коловозната површина. Главното депо наменето за гаражирање, сервисирање и чистење на трамваите, ќе се наоѓа на последна 5 и 15 во Ново Лисиче, а ќе биде со капацитет од 50 возни единици, иако за првата фаза, според Христовски, ќе бидат потребни 6 до 8 возила. На оваа траса ќе се смени и мрежа на линии на автобусите, кои ќе имаат нов возен ред.

Инаку, градските власти го ангажираа и правниот консултант Франк Ф.Веиндорф од Брисел, кој ќе му помогне на Град Скопје во добивање на средства од европските фондови кои финансираат инфраструктурни проекти во земјите од Источна Европа и Западен Балкан. Според градоначалникот Костовски првата фаза ќе чини околу 50 милиони евра, со оглед дека само еден трамвај е околу 2,5 до 3 милиони евра. Градот планира да издвои 15 милиони денари за проектот и 1,5 милиони денари за градежни работи.

Даниела ТРАЈКОВСКА

Izvor: Vecer


Konacno:cheers:

Konacno:cheers:


We're not happy about it at all. The plans are horrendous... Catastrophic planning of the network... We must wait for this inept mayor and his ridiculous team to be kicked out of office in the next local elections (less than year away), and hope that the plan for the network will be radically changed. I doubt that this idiot will get anything built by then anyway.

What's wrong with it?

The routes are catastrophic.

Instead of building the needed and planned separate routes, additional lanes, tunnels, trenches, and similar stuff that would make it a good and efficient system, the routes they drew are messed up and they are supposed to use existing lanes of already congested streets. It will create more problems than it will solve and it will cost a lot of money to do it!

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Hah, no. Actually (as a mediocre :) ) driver, I don't think that trams increase traffic problems too much. Of course its worse, however the idiotic driving skills compensate for this. And you've got some public transit problems solved to some extent. At least here in Sofia noone really cares about not driving on tram lines despite it's forbidden and trust me there are many streets that don't have a separate tram lane. I think the most annoying thing is when there is a tram stop just before a crossway with traffic lights, the tram stops in front of you and you have to wait until people get off (and the f*cking lights go red). However there are some other much more annoying and congestion-generating things. Like the f*cking marshrutki (drive like crazy, suddenly stop wherever they want), the stupid policemen that create more trouble than they alleviate...or just some nutters that need some serious punches and kicks in their ugly faces.

^^

Your post is not comforting to me at all. We have the opportunity to build it right. Why waste that opportunity, screw many things for decades to come, and spend a lot of money while doing that? It's nonsense... The idiot mayor wants something to start construction asap (he's delusional if he thinks he has any chance for the elections but...) and he does not give a fuck for the long term. He just wants the PR BS.

Well there are 2 important factors you should consider as well. First is that if you really intend to apply for funding from EU funds, then you have a complicated procedure: you must have a project, you must have some kind of an analysis to prove its importance, you must apply, wait until it gets approved (which depends on how hard you tried on writing project documentation). This takes a lot of time, the project documentation is usually written by a foreign consultant, there is a tender, it could be appealed, etc BS. This means that if you want to change the project, you'll have to wait at least 2 years until you get the funding and then another 1-2 until it's done. Until then, the traffic will certainly surge.

Second is that petrol prices are on the rise and pollution is bad thing as well. IMO if there were more parking lots and better developed public transit, the car traffic won't be so much of a trouble. Unfortunately Balkans and EE are years behind in that aspect :bash:

I'd rather wait and get a good network sometime in the future, than get this shit now. In fact I don't want the current shit to be ever built no matter what. It's a step backward, not forward. We need a modern LRT network, not a 19th century tram!

Well you can build that and later on scrap it for a modern LRT network :) I don't think that's a problem especially if it makes more problems than it solves and since you're confident you'd get your funding as well. This would be the best scenario. I mean, if you don't have another really good project to be funded by the EU for 50 mln EUR, your country loses that money. Each year there is a certain ammount of money that your country can may have if it has a good project according to some rules. You don't build that tram - then you'd probably lose those 50 million euro, it's as simple as that. Those money would boost the local construction companies, employ people, etc. In a better alternative reality, some wise guy would have made another project for rehhabilitation of n kilometers of 2nd grade roads or improving village infrastructure, a water project, blabla....yeah, but not in this case.

Finally, if it gets built and it really proves to be a hassle, then you can apply for a LRT project funding, scrap those lines, etc.

Whatever gets built, it will be very hard to scrap it and build something else... Especially since we're talking about expensive stuff and stuff that is problematic to build (long construction that gets in the way of the normal functioning of the city). Even scraping it would cause problems...

So even if we got it as a present from the EU and don't chip in anything ourselves (which is totally unrealistic), and then get another cash present from the EU for scraping it and building a new network (even more unrealistic), I'd oppose proceeding with the current concept. We don't need a bad network, it's as simple as that!

Well it's not so hard to remove a rail line :) Besides that, a percentage of them may be used for the future LRT network as well :)

Well it's not so hard to remove a rail line :)

It is not so easy also, when you take into account that they will be put on existing congested streets and that you would have to redo the street lane afterwards.
And when you add the psychological factor of how expensive and hard is to put the rails there in the first place, it would make it next to impossible to scrap them for building a better network.

Besides that, a percentage of them may be used for the future LRT network as well :)

Well that wouldn't be the best outcome really.

And I'm fed up with improvisations and running in circles...

Some construction updates (pics from build.com.mk)

SP market

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/SP4.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7523.jpg

This ones really interesting :cheers:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/956340ride.jpg



This was supposed to be primarily a multi-level carpark but is now a office-space/supermarket/carpark combo :lol:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7555.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7556.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7557.jpg

Office block "Corner" :lol: such an original name :D

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/korner3.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7508.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7553.jpg



NLB-Tutunska Bank

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/50000.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/blejdsk/NLB.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/blejdsk/NLB2.jpg

Great updates Vardar!

It's very interesting to see how Skopje's changed in the past year :)

Only thing that's bad, which I noticed, is that they build too close to the street. They do the same thing here -- as if no one's thinking that the future will require wider streets..

It's very interesting to see how Skopje's changed in the past year :)

Only thing that's bad, which I noticed, is that they build too close to the street. They do the same thing here -- as if no one's thinking that the future will require wider streets..

Everyone is maximizing on real estate, no matter whether it's Skopje or Sofia. Incursions such as this one should be regulated through zoning laws.

NLB-Tutunska Bank

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/50000.jpg

I like this!

The new Sports Arena "Boris Trajkovski" during the Macedonia - Iceland handball match. Macedonia has qualified for the 2009 International Handball Championships :cheers:

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Zdravo od New Orleans.

It's great to see so many projects going on in Macedonia. My parents are from Bitola, and many of much of my extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins) live in Bitola and Skopje.

Zdravo od New Orleans.

It's great to see so many projects going on in Macedonia. My parents are from Bitola, and many of much of my extended family (aunts, uncles, cousins) live in Bitola and Skopje.
Zdravo!:) Thanks for stopping by here dude, have you ever been to Macedonia?
Btw check out our Bitola (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=213696) photo thread, we've got heaps of photos in there!!

Zdravo!:) Thanks for stopping by here dude, have you ever been to Macedonia?
Btw check out our Bitola (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=213696) photo thread, we've got heaps of photos in there!!

Eight times. Although, the last time I was there was in 1990. My parents are going this fall for a few months.

Eight times. Although, the last time I was there was in 1990. My parents are going this fall for a few months.
Cool! Skopje has changed a lot, and Bitola too from what i know, the old buildings are all nice and restored:) well there are others that aren't still.

Is National Stadium in Skopje builded?

^^Yes it's built, it's just getting an extra stand/wing/whatever.

why dont you guys speak in macedonian??

Skopje treba da si napravi golemi gradovi 250m + .

Setne kje izgleda ubavo!

why dont you guys speak in macedonian??

Skopje treba da si napravi golemi gradovi 250m + .

Setne kje izgleda ubavo!

Welcome to the forum m8:)there`s forum with same tematic on macedonian build.com.mk visited!!Here we talk on english:)

Welcome to the forum m8:)there`s forum with same tematic on macedonian build.com.mk visited!!Here we talk on english:)

ok cool

are the mosques more or the churches in FYROM?

I don't think we've shown this project here, the local ford distributer as well as an office block being built by hypo i think. Pics from build.com.mk


http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Mida8.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Mida7.jpg


A few pics of the construction of the office block

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7506.jpg

On this one you can see the car-dealership which is partially completed

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/30062008001.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/07072008001.jpg

And heres a night pic

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Mida1.jpg


Just a quick update of this:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos2.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/lslcrew/GetStillImage.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/GetOneShot-3.jpg

As I can see the Magos project is rising very fast ,
About the MIDA project I am not informed about the purpose of the bilding but it looks disent

Hey welcome 46&2 :cheers:
The mida project one part is for ford and volvo sales and the office block is being built (financed) by Hipo alpe-adria i think.

Hey welcome 46&2 :cheers:
The mida project one part is for ford and volvo sales and the office block is being built (financed) by Hipo alpe-adria i think.


Nice. I hope that they will stick to the render because they've made a nice project

Welcome to the forum:):cheers1:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos2.jpg

WOW thats an awesome project ! :)

^^Yeah, one of the few good ones in Skopje:)

I like the project itself however its location and how the permit was given is another story.

i like it too:)

Does the new arena have the capability for an ice rink?

^^I'm assuming it can, don't see why not although i don't know how they'd make it with ice:?

Does the new arena have the capability for an ice rink?

Ice Hockey is not a popular sport in Macedonia so whats the point for that???:ohno:

For people to go ice skating.
I saw that it was a new arena and thought to ask. I didn't mean anything by it.

For people to go ice skating.
I saw that it was a new arena and thought to ask. I didn't mean anything by it.

No my friend that was not my point:
My point was that the new arena is a project that Skopje needed long time ago and now when it is finaly built would be rediculous to use it for some other purpose then sport(for example now there is World Hanball Championship going on)
For ice skating better solution will be the smaller arena that is built right next to the bigger one
Once againt i hope that you didnt find rude my previous comment, that was not my purpose :ohno:

Yes its capable for ice skating and ice hockey, but only the infrastructure is needed. There is enough place.

Yes its capable for ice skating and ice hockey, but only the infrastructure is needed. There is enough place.

welcome narko:Di`ll hope you`ll be here for a long:cheers:

Does the new arena have the capability for an ice rink?


If you mean wether it was desiged with ice skating/hockey in mind then no, as 46&2 said Hockey is not a popular sport here and theres already an outdoor ice rink, its also not like the arenas in the US where you can switch the playing surface from baksetball to ice hockey in a couple of hours although the floor surface is pretty big and could accomodate ice hockey but as dejan said dont know how or if they could do it.

:banana::banana::banana:

Rezidor Hotel to open in Skopje
29.8.08 A cornerstone laying ceremony marked today the start of a

construction of new hotel from the Rezidor Hotel Group in downtown

Skopje.
Heritage London & Hanover UK Ltd, i.e. its

branch in Macedonia is the project's investor, which is entitled to

build Rezidor hotels, including the Rezidor Hotel Group brands Park

Inn, Regent, Country Inn, Radisson SAS, Missoni. The new hotel includes

200 double rooms, five apartments, 20 small and one large congress

rooms. Skopje-based construction company Gemma Engineering should

complete the hotel in two years.




Today' event is a result of

the Government's economic policy, which inter alia offers opportunity

to investors to buy state-owned land by public competition for erecting

production and residing facilities, Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski said

at the ceremony.




- This project is part of the general trend of

larger inflow of foreign investments, contribution to creation of

several hundreds new jobs, competitiveness in luxury hotel business in

the capital, thus improving its tourist offer and image as attractive

business destination, Gruevski said.




By the Rezidor Hotel Skopje

will enter the list of world's metropolises, such as Prague, Vienna,

Budapest, Sofia, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Zagreb, while the

entrance of the Rezidor Hotel Group in Macedonia brings benefit to the

country's business climate. Transport and Communication Minister Mile

Janakieski said.




Representatives of HLH Macedonia LLP and

Rezidor Hotel Group, Andrew Feldman and Susanna Friedrich also

delivered addresses at the cornerstone-laying ceremony, saying that

Macedonia has become attractive for them due to its speedy development.




The

Rezidor Hotel Group is one of the fastest growing hotel companies in

the world, owning over 340 hotels in more than 50 countries. It has

over 25,000 employees and average annual accommodation rate of 13

million guests, Friedrich said.



http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p337/srsem/rezidor.jpg

^^
Finally starting :cheers:

BTW they're also building a shopping centre next to it.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Copyof55910978.jpg


A quick translation.... 45 million euro investment, 500 new jobs, 30.000m2, 411 parking spots, to be finished in 2 years time.




Нов трговски центар во Скопје
Поставен камен темелникот на новиот трговски центар во Скопје зад „Рамстор“.

Станува збор за британска инвестиција вредна 45 милиони евра која според најавите, ќе отвори околу 500 нови вработувања.

Објектот со вкупна површина од 30.000 метри квадратни, треба да профункционира за две години.

Комплексот ќе се состои од приземје, два ката и подземен дел со четири нивоа.

Во првите три подземни нивоа ќе има паркинг со капацитет за 411 возила, додека во горниот дел од објектот, освен предвидените 70 дуќани, ќе има и 66 локали.

^^ is that final render?:shifty:

:cheers2:

Thats the only one i've seen, BTW they're 2 seperate projects if thats what you mean :dunno:

^^I`ve understood that there`re 2 projects,I was asking about the "equest"mall..
:cheers:

OK, I thought you meant if that was a newer version of the pic you posted. :okay:

BTW I'm guessing its the definitive design but you never know....

Bravo za Skopje i jos ovakvih projekata.Samo napred.Onaj deo kod Ramstora bice perverzija,sad mi se mnogo svidja.

Skopje should make some skyscrapers 200m +

^^
:soon: :soon: I`ve gut a feeling :D:D

:cheers:

Finally the "Univerzalna" hall will be totally renovated


http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p337/srsem/univerzalna.jpg


Универзална ќе се обновува со владини пари

Во салата ќе се постават нови седишта, озвучување, вентилација, противпожарни скали и ќе се реконструираат таванот, катовите, галериите и санитарните јазли



Универзална сала в година ќе биде претворена во големо градилиште. Салата, која две децении се распаѓаше, а во која никој не вложуваше, целосно ќе се реконструира со три милиони евра, кои ќе ги издвои Владата. Надворешниот изглед ќе остане ист, алуминиум и стакло, а новина се две проширувања од страните на објектот.Премиерот Никола Груевски вчера, на промоцијата на идејниот проект, рече дека меѓународниот јавен оглас за салата ќе биде објавен в петок. По завршувањето на процедурата, најдоцна во јануари, ќе почне реконструкцијата на Универзална сала, која како привремен објект е изградена пред повеќе од 40 години.

- Целиот проект ќе го финансира Владата. Со тоа сакаме да придонесеме за градот и за објектите што тој ги поседува. Градот да добие подобар изглед, а граѓаните да имаат подобри услови за престој во салата. Тоа е дел од нашата изборна програма и се обидуваме чекор по чекор да ги исполниме обврските. Ова е уште една поддршка за градот по проектот за обнова на Зоолошката градина и набавката на автобуси за градски превоз - изјави премиерот Груевски.Тој рече дека сега засега се планирани три милиони евра, но конечната парична конструкција ќе зависи од завршните детали и од ревизијата на проектот, кој е стар четири години.Директорот на Универзална сала, Душко Поповски, рече дека е задоволен што ги добиле долгоочекуваните пари за реконструкција и доградба на салата.

- Универзална сала во изминатите 40 години одговори на потребите на организаторите на манифестации и на публиката. Но, за жал, салата е дотраен и преамортизиран објект. Ваква реконструкција е неопходна. Проектот за реконструкција е направен уште пред четири години според тогашните стандарди и градежни материјали. Сега тој проект ќе претрпи измена, но не верувам дека сумата од околу три милиони евра ќе биде драстично надмината - вели директорот Поповски.Архитектката Ленка Маневска, која вчера го презентира проектот, вели дека салата ќе има нов модерен изглед и функционалност по современи стандарди.Салата ќе се уреди ентериерно, а ќе се прошири фоајето, од каде ќе се тргнат гардеробите. Ќе се доградат и приспособат нови простории и содржини, ќе се заменат сите дотраени материјали. На објектот ќе се вградат противпожарни скали и ќе се реконструираат таванот, катовите, галериите и санитарните јазли - вели Маневска.Во салата ќе се вгради квалитетна опрема за озвучување, вентилација и инфраструктура. Ќе бидат додадени уште два реда нови седишта. Старите 1.500 седишта целосно ќе бидат заменети заради поголема удобност на посетителите. Фонтаната пред Универзална сала ќе се обнови.

Градежните работи ќе се одвиваат во 2009 година, но салата нема
да биде целосно затворена за посетителите. Директорот Поповски вели дека салата ќе биде отворена за настани, но по потреба делови од неа ќе бидат затворани во различни фази од реконструкцијата. Универзална сала е изградена по земјотресот во 1963 година, со пари од 35 земји од целиот свет. Проектот и изведувачите биле од Бугарија. Таа е објект од привремен карактер со челична конструкција, однадвор обложена со
алуминиум и со стакло.

Јорданка Ивановска

I dont know macedonian but i am interested whats the most important project in Skopje?

Something interesting I know about Universalna Sala is that it was an exact replica of the State Circus in Sofia, which burnt down in the 70s. so now it's unique.

I dont know macedonian but i am interested whats the most important project in Skopje?



Hmm in my opinion there isn't a "most important project" in Skopje at the moment. There are several office blocks being built/planned, a few shopping centres, the new arena was just finished while the national stadium is currently getting a new north stand, the second section of the northern by-pass is expected to be opened in a couple of months, as well as several "delayed" projects (this is the balkans after all) :lol: Thats just off the top of my head, but I wouldn't say there is a big big project at the moment (for example like the proposed skyscrapers in Prishtina)

Does anyone have renders of Skopje's new city hall project?

^^

AFAIK there isn't one, the latest idea was to reconstruct the old officers building on Macedonia square and use it as a city hall but I think they didn't come up with a winner from the tender and the project has been delayed. On top of that the mayor is now saying he doesnt want to use that building and wants to build a new project somewhere else, however there's no info on this.



http://www.blesok.com.mk/Images/Gallery/33/01.jpg

Bilo bi fenomenalno kad bi ponovo sagradili ovu zgradu. A ima li reci o rekonstukciji one koja se nalazila sa druge strane trga, a bila jako slicna ovoj?

1. Rebuilding of the Officer's House destroyed in the 1963 earthquake. It will be used by the mayor and his administration. Should start construction this year and finish 2010.

2. Office building. Should start construction in march/april and be completed within year and a half. Cost: 12M Euro.

3. Multilevel parking garage (part of the previous project). Should start construction in march/april and be completed within year and a half.

4. Underground street. In addition to linking the garage, in the future will be one of the links for the planned parking facility under the square. Should be finished before the garage.

5,6. A huge fountain and monuments. Undergoing administrative procedures.

7. Renovation of the "TIPO" building. The exterior is finished, they are putting last touches in the interior. Cost: 2M Euro.

8. Lumix Center. Delayed beyond reason. Finally looks like it's about to be opened.

9. Big resurfacing project in the whole area around

10. Turning the street into a pedestrian zone and supplying the adequate "urban equipment"

11. Office building. Delayed beyond reason.

12. Small hotel. Cost 5M Euro.

13. Office building. Almost finished.

14. Office/Residential building. Nearing completion.

15. Hotel + Office building + Multilevel garage. Stuck in legal problems. Cost 12M Euro.

16. Small reconstruction project.

17. Mother Theresa memorial house. The project looks awful!!! Construction supposed to start in march/april. I hope it doesn't!

18. Soravia Center. Completing the unfinished building. They bought it for more than 10 and are investing additional 20 million euro. Almost finished.

19. Reconstruction/additional floor on the GTC mall. No credible dates/deadlines.

20. A pedestrian bridge called the "flower bridge". Construction starts sometime this year. Cost: 450000 euro.

21. Restauration of the Stone Bridge. Took years already, but finally they should complete it this year. Total cost is about 5M Euro.

22. Museum complex "Macedonian struggle". The competition is over and they are pushing the project, but I don't have a clue about dates/deadlines.

23. Rebuilding of the old theater destroyed in the 1963 earthquake. Construction started in 2007. Should be finished in 2009.

24. Holocaust Memorial Center. Construction started in 2005 and was supposed to finish in march this year, but it will definitely take at least few more months.

25. A new Philharmonic building. Great project IMO. Construction will hopefully tart in april and finish in 2009.

26. A retarded beach project... Another "bright" idea by the mayor. Totally inadequate location, but the peasants living in the city seem to think it's great. They announced that they are about to start construction... I hope their term ends before they do it.[/QUOTE]
Hi, Im new to the forum, Macedonian from the dijasporata :) and was wondering what happened new from the things listed above? Aniway I'm very glad to see that Skopje is having such a good progress, :cheers: So, if I could see some pictures from projects, Id be thankfull! P.S. What happened with the 'Era City' project?

^^

Hi skopjemacedonia :cheers:

To answer your question just generally some have been completed, some are under construction while others are yet to start , you have a ton of info over on www.build.com.mk (www.build.com.mk/forum)


Regarding eracity they've started it but are draging their feet for some reason here is a recent photo from build :cheers:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_8480-800.jpg

^^

Hi skopjemacedonia :cheers:

To answer your question just generally some have been completed, some are under construction while others are yet to start , you have a ton of info over on www.build.com.mk (www.build.com.mk/forum)


Regarding eracity they've started it but are draging their feet for some reason here is a recent photo from build :cheers:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_8480-800.jpg

Cool, thanx... I know that page, it's just I thought here you can find more infos... Aniway, why are they dragging?? :ohno: Hopefully it will be done in a reasonable period of time :) Zagreb is coming well, I see no reason why shouldnt we go the same way, Skopje is much more nicer and people are much much more friendly ;) hehe, its in our blood :drunk: LOLO. Hopefully will see that things listed in my previous post will work. p.s. how's the tram line going? U/C? or? Thanks

Yeah, and one more thing, ( Im just feeling like writing today :) lolo ) Im just glad that Skopje has finally move its ass ( mrdnalo gazeto ) :) and the economy has finally started to grow a bit, ( A litlle, but significant ) hehe.. I just wanted to say something, a thing that's not crucial to a city, but still.. I think that every city should have a logo, a something that will make the visual recognition of the city. For example, Zagreb has the folowing http://hirc.botanic.hr/HBoD/1HBS/Logo-tzgz.jpg

^^
first welcomemate :cheers: :)
the tram line is projected only on paper,but I think that will be realised in near future.It`s suposed to connect "Gorche Petrov" i "Novo Lisiche"with 22 stations and the"depo" also in NL:)
and for the logo +1 :okay:
:cheers::cheers:

I lived in Novo Lisiche :D hehe, I'm sooo glad that finally something is going on in my hometown :) Does anyone has info about the Plostad Makedonija new dup? Are they finally building the oficerski and the new business building I heard that they will?? Pleeease say yes!! :D:cheers2::cheers2: Aniway, looking forward on new info about Skopje :) Pictures are MORE than welcome :wink2: P.s. If anyone has any ideas about a visual logo, go on ;) :dance: ( love the smileys ) :D

^^
it`s taken from www.build.com.mk and shows how Plostad Makedonija will look like:)

http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p337/srsem/dup.jpg

And if you notice well,you`ll see the new bridge there:)

btw,some of the buildings are U/C and progresed well :okay:

:cheers:

^^

And if you notice well,you`ll see the new bridge there:)

btw,some of the buildings are U/C and progresed well :okay:

:cheers: ^^ THANKS A LOT U GUYS!!!!! :) I really like it :cheers: Hey I have a question, on a tourist level, how's my homeland doing, needless to say that tourism and marketing are my domain :) so I'm quite interested in it.. What dou you think? what could work in MK? Does Skopje has any campaign at all? I saw one or two tourist portals, and some tourist brochures about Skopje. Does the city has anything in mind? cheers! :cheers: Поздрав од Хрватска! :)

Eve nesto sto mozev da storam da se vidi nesto , so digitalen slikav. Ne se dobri
ama kolku da se ima pretstava ok se..

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/blejdsk/3.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/blejdsk/2.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/blejdsk/1.jpg

E da, sto bide so ovie projekti? dali ke se realiziraat? ^^

Just a quick update of this:

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos2.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/lslcrew/GetStillImage.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/GetOneShot-3.jpg

Hey guys, how's the magos project going? is it allmost done? any fresh pics? I saw the Soravia building, WOW now that's something beautifull!! :cheers:

Hey guys, how's the magos project going? is it allmost done? any fresh pics? I saw the Soravia building, WOW now that's something beautifull!! :cheers:
The Magos building before one month

http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p337/srsem/Magos_2008-09-17_18-00.jpg


E da, sto bide so ovie projekti? dali ke se realiziraat? ^^

тој што го имаш фатено само шо почнаа да го градат,демек реконструкција на Народна Банка,ама излезе сосем трето накрај,деловен простор :nuts::nuts:

Steta sto se ovde ne prikazuje izgradnja Skoplja i ostalih vecih Makedonskih gradova,jer se ovaj sajt,sto se te svrhe tice, mnogo vise prati.

Скопје треба да си направи големи зградови 200 метри и поќе

сетне ќе изгледа убаво

Steta sto se ovde ne prikazuje izgradnja Skoplja i ostalih vecih Makedonskih gradova,jer se ovaj sajt,sto se te svrhe tice, mnogo vise prati. Prošetaj malo, vidjet češ da ima u prethodnim postovima dosta informacija o projektima u Skopju, btw, ni ja ne kužim zašto je thread skoro pa :deadthrea ajde, dajte malo, informacija. Lugje, navistina, so se slucuva dole? Ve molam ako ima poveke informacii dajte post naprajte, :) So bide so LRT? ke bide le nesto? pozdrav od Hrvatska!

Amazing new skyscraper (2 towers x 25 floors each + mall) project in Skopje :cheers:

From www.build.com.mk


http://www.g-centers.com/images/projs/Skopia-mall.jpg



G mall Skopje


G mall skopje is a groundbreaking undertaking. In the city's first modern building project of such large scale, it will introduce into skopje a modern shopping mall and commercial center. This flagship project and the first of its kind in Macedonia's capital, will cover an area of 42,000 sqm and will consist of 100,000 sqm of built space that will give an amount of 55,000 GLA, the project will also include two office towers consisting of 15,000 sqm each. At an estimated investment of € 120 million, the showcase shopping mall will house leading fashion brands from around the world. It will include leading hypermarket chains as well as DIY vendors. Serving as an all-in-one shopping and entertainment center, visitors to the mall will enjoy a choice of cinemas, relaxation in a spa, or getting fit in the health club, all integral features of the site.

The project will include 2,500 parking places.

G mall skopje is designed to offer a total shopping and entertainment experience, the complex will feature impressively designed spacious walkways to ensure easy movement throughout the mall and from floor to floor. The space will be flooded with natural light and will offer numerous escalators and elevators, some of them transparent offering the extra passenger experience of a bird's-eye view of the beautiful design of the mall. The shops will be well-lit and spacious with large entrances for easy access and flow of shoppers. Transfer from parking areas to commercial areas will be clearly marked and designed for convenience.

The design of G mall skopje is under the supervision of operating architect: Moshe Tzur.



Source: http://www.g-centers.com/skopje.asp

why dont they just make the two office buildings into one huge one?

why dont they just make the two office buildings into one huge one?

maybe they don't need bigger?

xtra
coz the shopping mall ought to look and be like that and not skyscraper for numerous reasons.

Ok because the guys that were in relation with makedonski forum are not here for numerous political reasons I decide to upload something.

This is one of the biggest road infrastructure projects being build in Skopje nowadays.
Its interchange that goes to the city center and continue to the outer regions of inner city.
As you know Skopje ring road was build before some time, actually one part is open I think 15km and the rest 15km total 30, are on its way for opening.

This is a map of the location and some pictures.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/Skopjemap1.jpg

This is the highway map and as you can see the Skopje ring road. The dots are second part that will be open in 2009.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/Skopjemap2.jpg

The read part is newly constructed interchange that continue to the previosly (2007) constructed bridge over Vardar river that continue to Transporten centar (Mainly transport center for buses and trains).
Yellow part is interchange for suburbs and the blue one is interchange directly to the city center that is upgrading and will be open in 2009.

Here are some pictures from www.build.com.mk @Cloverstack

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb004.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb005.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb007.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb008.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb010.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb013.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb014.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb018.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Ristowski/kongdb021.jpg

LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!! :) That's my birth town ya'll ;) !!!!!!

Jel ima saznanja koliki je budzet grada Skopja za 2009 godinu,kao i ostalih Makedonskih gradova?

i mene kg zanima takodje ali me jos vise zanima zasto je tako nesrazmjerno mali za grad kao sto je skopje.
nikako mi ne ide u glavu, tako visok drzavni budzet koji je za ovu cini mi se iznosio oko 2,2 mlrd € a za sledecu najavljen oko impresivnih 2,5 mlrd € a da gl. grad sa oko svojih 500.000 stanovnika ima budzet za ovu oko 3mlrd denara (oko 50 miliona €)...
eto jos jedna molba pored kg da mi neko uz скопско :cheers: objasni ovu nelogicnost..

elem, kg evo link za budzet za 2008. tu pise da su ga izglasali 4 dana prije nove godine tako da ce i ove biti slicno

http://www.skopje.gov.mk/images/File/0%20BUDGET%20NA%20GRAD%20SKOPJE%20ZA%202008%20promeneto.pdf

i mene kg zanima takodje ali me jos vise zanima zasto je tako nesrazmjerno mali za grad kao sto je skopje.
nikako mi ne ide u glavu, tako visok drzavni budzet koji je za ovu cini mi se iznosio oko 2,2 mlrd € a za sledecu najavljen oko impresivnih 2,5 mlrd € a da gl. grad sa oko svojih 500.000 stanovnika ima budzet za ovu oko 3mlrd denara (oko 50 miliona €)...
eto jos jedna molba pored kg da mi neko uz скопско :cheers: objasni ovu nelogicnost..

elem, kg evo link za budzet za 2008. tu pise da su ga izglasali 4 dana prije nove godine tako da ce i ove biti slicno

http://www.skopje.gov.mk/images/File/0%20BUDGET%20NA%20GRAD%20SKOPJE%20ZA%202008%20promeneto.pdf


Ja sam cak dosao do podatka da je 45 000 000 evra,sto je katastrofalno.:ohno:

To je 90 evra po glavi stanovnika.:ohno:

Evo okolnih gradova:

Srbija 2008

City Beograd 828 750 000 e-1 576 000(526 e/per capita)
City Novi Sad 178 040 000 e- 299 000(595 e/per capita)
City Kragujevac 83 700 000 e-175 000(478 e/per capita)
City Nis 80 000 000 e-250 000(320 e/per capita)
Subotica 55 865 287 e-148 401(376 e/per capita)
Pancevo 52 500 000 e-127 162(413 e/per capita)
Zrenjanin 52 500 000 e-132 051(398 e/per capita)

Bugarska

Sofija 400 000 000 e-1 123 562(356 e/per capita)
Plovdiv 110 000 000 e-331 294(332 e/per capita)
Varna 110 000 000 e-321 727(342 e/per capita)
Ruse 36 500 000 e-159 700(228 e/per capita)
Stara Zagora 41 500 000 e-146 870(282 e/per capita)
Pleven 30 500 000 e-118 765(256 e/per capita)

Jos plus za bugarske gradove sam uzimao uze urbane celine,tako da je ovaj njihov prosek malo i naduvan.

Drugi gradovi u okruzenju uglavnom imaju prosek srpskih gradova,a Slovenci i neki Hrvatski gradovi i malo veci od proseka(Zagreb i Rijeka,ostali su u proseku ili ispod)

Kragujevac je od 2001 do 2008 za 10 puta povecao budzet.
A za 2009 opet rekordnih 7 900 000 000 dinara(45 143 dinara/per capita)

Prema projektu Kragujevac 2010-2011 ce imati najveci prosek po glavi stanovnika.


Za Skopje mi je totalno nerazumljivo ovako nizak budzet,ako posmatramo maltene sve gradove srednje i istocne Evrope,apsolutni negativni pobednik.
Postoji jedna varijanta:Skopje ako ima 50 000 000 evra,da dobije jos dodatnih 20-30 mil kao glavni grad,ali opet i to je ocajna cifra.

Kragujevac za 2009 osim tih 7.9 miljrd ima da dobije od drzave i 35 000 000 evra(najvise zbog Fiata),a majsko-junskim rebalansom da dobije jos 10-15 %

Tako bi budzet grada bio preko 130 000 000 evra(preko 743 e/per capita)

Infrastukturnite proekti v Skopje izglezdat mnogo dobre :okay:

Kawasaki: where did you find the budgets? Is there an online database?

Infrastukturnite proekti v Skopje izglezdat mnogo dobre :okay:

Kawasaki: where did you find the budgets? Is there an online database?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=549884

no online database for city budgets,for each city I search on Google,and I found that!

10.10.2008
''Today Hypo Alpe Adria Leasing Group laid the cornerstone for its business center, Hyperium, worth €17 million, which is expected to be completed within a year.

The business center will be built on a 13,000m² surface area, have five floors, and an underground parking garage able to accommodate 200 vehicles. The Hypo Group will occupy one floor, and the remaining four floors will be leased or rented. The entire contemporary facility will have central heating and air conditioning, a fully wired network, and an electrical energy conservation system.

Minister of Economy, Fatmir Besimi, who attended the cornerstone laying ceremony, stated that the facility represents a new investment in the Republic of Macedonia, and that today’s ceremony is proof that the reforms for a better business climate in Macedonia are being realized, and that the country is a favorable business destination.

According to Gjorgje Vojnovic, member of the Board of Directors of Hypo Alpe Adria Leasing, Hyperium demonstrates their seriousness, ambitious plans, and consistency. For Oliver Zintl, also a member of the Board of Directors, this project demonstrates Hypo Group’s confidence in the Republic of Macedonia, and that this is just the beginning of several large investments to follow.

Hypo Alpe Adria Leasing was founded on October 26, 2006 in Macedonia, but began operating February 2007. Hypo Alpe Adria Group is an international financial concern with over 350 banks, and leasing companies in 12 countries. So far, the company’s investments in Macedonia amount to over €40 million.''

I tried to find render for it, but nothing came on the web, does anyone knows where it will be build, or maybe has render? *cheers*

10.10.2008
''Today Hypo Alpe Adria Leasing Group laid the cornerstone for its business center, Hyperium, worth €17 million, which is expected to be completed within a year.

The business center will be built on a 13,000m² surface area, have five floors, and an underground parking garage able to accommodate 200 vehicles. The Hypo Group will occupy one floor, and the remaining four floors will be leased or rented. The entire contemporary facility will have central heating and air conditioning, a fully wired network, and an electrical energy conservation system.

Minister of Economy, Fatmir Besimi, who attended the cornerstone laying ceremony, stated that the facility represents a new investment in the Republic of Macedonia, and that today’s ceremony is proof that the reforms for a better business climate in Macedonia are being realized, and that the country is a favorable business destination.

According to Gjorgje Vojnovic, member of the Board of Directors of Hypo Alpe Adria Leasing, Hyperium demonstrates their seriousness, ambitious plans, and consistency. For Oliver Zintl, also a member of the Board of Directors, this project demonstrates Hypo Group’s confidence in the Republic of Macedonia, and that this is just the beginning of several large investments to follow.

Hypo Alpe Adria Leasing was founded on October 26, 2006 in Macedonia, but began operating February 2007. Hypo Alpe Adria Group is an international financial concern with over 350 banks, and leasing companies in 12 countries. So far, the company’s investments in Macedonia amount to over €40 million.''

I tried to find render for it, but nothing came on the web, does anyone knows where it will be build, or maybe has render? *cheers*

It will be build right to the Ford centre,near sports arena "Boris Trajkovski"and you can see from the pics that progressed very well(seriozna firma nema labavo:)):cheers1:


http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/mrbobby/DSC03668-8004.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/mrbobby/DSC03669-8003.jpg

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr6/mrbobby/DSC03667-800.jpg

You arent so activ, guys?
I dont see any project post in this forum.
Why this?
Wake up Macedoniaaans!

You arent so activ, guys?
I dont see any project post in this forum.
Why this?
Wake up Macedoniaaans!

Updaters left because of political reasons...

Updaters left because of political reasons... NOT! :D they are all on build.com.mk :)

''it will be build right to the Ford centre,near sports arena "Boris Trajkovski"and you can see from the pics that progressed very well(seriozna firma nema labavo:))'' I like it, I like it!!!! cheers1 ;)

I saw this on the web, it looks really COOL!!!! :) http://forton.bg/en/wp-content/g-mall-night-005.jpg http://forton.bg/en/wp-content/g-mall-2.JPG http://forton.bg/en/wp-content/g-mall-1.JPG

I really hope this project will be realised soon! I thin Skopje needs plenty of projects like this! :cheers: :applause: What about its loccation? does anyone knows it? Thanks! SKOPJE METROPOLIS!! :tiasd:

What about its loccation? does anyone knows it?

As far as I know,it should be on the place of ex "Alumina"and may I ask where was Alumina?In Zelezara?:)

може некој да ми каже колку сатро е зрадата што веле СКОПСКО на неја?

can someone tell me how old that building that says Skopsko on it is?

"Ристиќева палата" и е името,а е изградена 1925г.

:cheers:

ама јас си мислам ја имам видено во слики од 1909 и 1912.. и тамо беше во таа година

Таа зграда е 25та изградена со сигурност,а тој период 09-12та е правена денешна улица Македонија(од старата железничка до плоштадот што оди),хотелот Бристол,старата пошта и уште некој друг хотел што му го заборавив името(пак на улица Македонија):)
:cheers:

Sto nema updates?

^^
Ladno e,racete ni mrznat:jk::D

If you`re interested about projects in Skopje,please visit www.build.com.mk

I saw this on the web, it looks really COOL!!!! :) http://forton.bg/en/wp-content/g-mall-night-005.jpg http://forton.bg/en/wp-content/g-mall-2.JPG http://forton.bg/en/wp-content/g-mall-1.JPG

I really hope this project will be realised soon! I thin Skopje needs plenty of projects like this! :cheers: :applause: What about its loccation? does anyone knows it? Thanks! SKOPJE METROPOLIS!! :tiasd:

According to a media message from Gazit_Globe from late November the construction of the four projects on the Balkans should start unitl the end of March

http://www.propertyxpress.com/news/07713-Israeli_Developer_to_Pour_over_EUR_500_mln_in_Shopping_Schemes_in_Bulgaria_Macedonia

^^ thx for the info :cheers:

Does anyone has some picture, info about the VERO project near narodna banka ?

Скопље (македонски: Скопје) је главни град Македоније. Има 506.926 становника (2002.) и лежи на реци Вардар. Скопље је политички, економски и културни центар Македоније и главни центар металопрерађивачке, хемијске, дрвне, текстилне, кожне и штампарске индустрије. Индустријски развој је праћен интензивним развојем унутрашње и спољне трговине и банкарства, као и активности на пољима културе и спорта.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2hzhavl.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/k4a106.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/9te2hx.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2cp47tg.jpg

Tutunska banka (u fazi izgradnje-novi objekat)

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/DSCN0553-800.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/DSCN0544-800.jpg

Tutunska banka (malo stariji objekat)

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/CopyofDSCN0285-800.jpg

Arhitektonski biro

http://domain1204270.sites.streamlinedns.co.uk/latis/3.jpg

http://domain1204270.sites.streamlinedns.co.uk/latis/1.jpg

:cheers: za novi SK thread, nadam se samo da ce se redovno osvjezivati s novim informacijama.

:cheers: za novi SK thread, nadam se samo da ce se redovno osvjezivati s novim informacijama.

Trudicu se da predstavim sto vise projekata i izgradnju u Skoplju,a posto imam priliku da sam tamo 2,3 meseca godisnje,pozitivno sam iznenadjen kvalitetom i tempom gradnje.

:cheers:

DTC Gringo

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/lbocvarov89/DSC00357.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/partizanskakliment147.jpg

Korner

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture015_resize.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/korner1.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q213/realek/Picture013_resize.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7553.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/281zalk.jpg

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo246/build_album/DSCN0004-800.jpg

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo246/build_album/DSCN0168-800.jpg

Jako lepi projekti... :okay:

neznam sta ovaj thread radi u serbian forumu?

Hiperium

- 17 miliona evra
- 9 000 m2
- Hipo Alpe Adria lizing

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Mida7.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Mida8.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/gotsomekicks/DSC00117.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/lslcrew/DSC03667-800.jpg

neznam sta ovaj thread radi u serbian forumu?

Ni ja ne znam sta ce na Siptarskim forumima thread-ovi o Pristini, Ulcinju... Uostalom gde ce biti thread za Skoplje kad su zatvorili makedonski podforum...

ok videcemo da li ce pojaviti ljudi koji zive u skoplju inace ovako je besmisleno mi da raspravljamo

Makedoncima nije data sansa predstave svoju zemlju i grad na adekvatan nacin.A gde ce se bolje i lepse predstaviti ovaj grad nego na nasem forumu.U Skoplju zivi oko 20 000 Srba(u sirem podrucju mozda i blizu 30 000),a postoji bliska veza izmedju ova 2 naroda(ne pravim razliku),tako da ne vidim nikakav problem da Skoplje bude predstavljen na nasem forumu.A i ja sam 5-6 puta godisnje tamo,tako da Skoplje ima prestavnika ovde.

Biznis centar Megi

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/CopyofIMG_7432.jpg

http://www.altitlan.com/img/sets/big/122907416449422ef458cac.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/lbocvarov89/Megi3.jpg

http://www.build.mk/docs/users/cloverstack/l/Megi%2001%2001.jpg

http://www.build.mk/docs/users/cloverstack/l/megi%2003%2002.jpg

Invest banka

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/dewrob/IMG_5084.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/dewrob/IMG_5086.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Copyof2731514318_c8e1df6561_b.jpg

Sta se nalazilo na lokaciji Invest banke

http://www.staroskopje.vestel.com.mk/sites/simages/18_2.jpg

bio sam ljetos u SK i nisam previse odusevljen projektima koji se grade tamo, ipak, je to grad od 700 000st.

Makedonska banka

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Picture005-1.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/13062008.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_8136.jpg

bio sam ljetos u SK i nisam previse odusevljen projektima koji se grade tamo, ipak, je to grad od 700 000st.

Imao sam prilike da prodjem celim Skopljem i da uzivam u njegovim carima.
Neki delovi Skoplja(Centar,Aerodrom,Gazi Baba,Kisela Voda,Lisice,Dracevo,Karpos,Kozle)razvijaju se neverovatnim tempom i kao da su odvojeni od Caira,Saraja,Skoplja Sever,Sutke(koji su takodje ogromni delovi Skoplja).

Tako da su moja osecanja pomesana,ali globalna slika Skoplja se menja iz dana u dan,gde se njegov rast i razvoj ne dovode u pitanje.

Ali u svakom slucaju ogroman Grad,koji mora mnogo bolje i vise.

Biznis centar Skoplje

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/gema-1.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/img1206vc4.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/img1194go9.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n16/djurob/IMG_3654.jpg

Magos

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos2.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/magos1.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/154yhdh.jpg

Soravia centar

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_7205.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc298/blejdsk/01102008179.jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg177/lbocvarov89/DSC01735-1.jpg

http://www.kirilica.com.mk/userfiles/image/01.10.2008/soravia-vo.jpg

City gallery

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/theone_/CC3.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/theone_/CC2.jpg

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/theone_/CC1.jpg

U Kragujevcu tek u planu realizacija ovakvog objekta.

Ako su zatvorili makedonski podforum, ond podrzavam otvaranje ovog threada. Inace lepe projekte ima Skoplje, ovo sto sam do sada video je u globalu vise nego dobro.:cheers:

Arhitektonski biro

http://domain1204270.sites.streamlinedns.co.uk/latis/3.jpg

http://domain1204270.sites.streamlinedns.co.uk/latis/1.jpg

imas li vise inform. ili neki link za ovo ?

Ako su zatvorili makedonski podforum, ond podrzavam otvaranje ovog threada. Inace lepe projekte ima Skoplje, ovo sto sam do sada video je u globalu vise nego dobro.:cheers:

Zatvorili su makednoski podforum? Kako to? :omg: A upravo sam se spremala da kažem kako je ideja super, ali je pitanje koliko je Skopju mesto na srpskom podforumu :lol:
U svakom slučaju, dobra ideja!!!!

A gde su nam bratja Makedonci?

G-mall(Gazitgloub)

http://www.g-centers.com/images/projs/Skopia-mall.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/lslcrew/g-mall-2.jpg

- 25 sprata
- bruto 100 000 m2
- neta 42 000 i 55 000 m2
- parking 2 500 mesta
- 120 miliona evra

SP Planet

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_3674.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/picturedw8.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/IMG_8353.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/DSCN0181-800.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/DSCN0194-800.jpg

Ideja za rekonstrukciju GTC-a(Gradskog trgovinskog centra)koji trenutno ima 114 000 m2

http://vecer.com.mk/WBStorage/Articles/E29D81243350DE4089D5BEA294D3362D.jpg

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9080/gtc06dz9.jpg

Equest

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee251/djurob_bucket/Copyof55910978.jpg

- 30 000 m2
- u blizini je Ramstor mall-a
- 45 miliona evra

Bravo Srđane na otvaranju teme i na izvještajima oko gradilišta! :okay: Čovječe nisam ni bio svjestan koliko se Skoplje gradi! Nadam se da će nam se braća Makedonci pridružiti.

Era city

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/lslcrew/DSC03593.jpg

http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Travel/Pix/pictures/2007/11/15/SkyBarRex4.jpg

Neverovatno gradiliste,ako posmatramo zemlje bivse SFRJ mozda i najvece

157 000 m2 samo trgovinsko-poslovnog prostora,maltene u centru Skoplja