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mr.x
August 1st, 2007, 08:02 PM
All TransLink buses to get cameras
Company will try to equip all 1,100 vehicles in fleet in about two years

John Colebourn, The Province
Published: Wednesday, August 01, 2007

TransLink is putting cameras on buses to film bad actors.

The decision to give Big Brother a permanent all-zone bus pass and install "security cameras and video-recording equipment" on the vehicles is getting mixed reviews.

TransLink on July 18 approved a budget of about $4 million to install CCTV cameras on buses. The annual cost to run the camera system would be $470,000, with about $140,000 saved in costs such as vandalism.

Some worry that cameras are being installed when the jury is out on whether they help fight crime.

"I don't think they will work as a deterrent," said University of Victoria sociologist Dr. Sean Hier, who has a federal grant to study the effects of video-surveillance cameras in public places. "Whether it [CCTV] will ultimately save Joe the bus driver from a beating -- I doubt that. There is no evidence to support that video surveillance deters crime and violent crime.

"Violent crime is much more irrational -- that's why we have all these images of people beating people up. How does video surveillance protect you -- that's the debate? I think this [with TransLink] is an effort to have a mechanism in place after the fact.

"We're always looking for a simple answer and video surveillance is the simple answer right now."

Micheal Vonn, policy director for the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, also wonders if cameras will help.

"There are studies that show the cameras do not deter crime," she said. "It is a concern that cameras are proliferating. Quite often the idea is CCTV is a quick fix. What happens is we get technologically driven, which doesn't end up being the solution at all."

Vonn said her association did support installation of cameras in taxis. "The evidence there was overwhelming that the drivers were in serious danger from passenger assaults," she said.

Bus driver Alex Makarenia said verbal and physical attacks from passengers are always a problem.

"I handle it in different ways according to the situation," said Makarenia, a driver for three years.

"I wouldn't mind more security."

In 2006, there were 241 assaults against TransLink bus drivers. There were 121 up to July 10 of this year.

Last Thursday, a bus driver was assaulted as he sat behind the wheel of his bus. A man got on at Main and Sixth in Vancouver and walked by the driver without showing proof of payment. The man, when questioned, turned around and beat the driver.

Jim Burrows of the Information and Privacy Commissioner's office said the office has been given a rundown of TransLink's plans. "We have video surveillance guidelines," he said. "They are requested to have signage that says there is video surveillance in the buses."

Burrows said cameras should only be used when there is a specific need: "In this case there's concern for safety and the purpose is clear -- the bus driver's safety."

Coast Mountain spokesman Doug McDonald said the intention is to have cameras installed on the fleet of 1,100 in about two years. He said there would not be continuous monitoring of the cameras.

"It will certainly help with the safety aspects of our operation," he said. "People who have these cameras see a change in behaviour."

In the U.K., some 4.2 million cameras monitor city streets and train stations.

jcolebourn@png.canwest.com

-- with a file from David Carrigg


© The Vancouver Province 2007

noob(but not really)
August 24th, 2007, 07:37 PM
^^ wack


Snitchtown

Cory Doctorow 06.11.07, 6:00 PM ET

The 12-story Hotel Torni was the tallest building in central Helsinki during the Soviet occupation of Finland, making it a natural choice to serve as KGB headquarters. Today, it bears a plaque testifying to its checkered past, and also noting the curious fact that the Finns pulled 40 kilometers of wiretap cable out of the walls after the KGB left. The wire was solid evidence of each operative's mistrustful surveillance of his fellow agents.

The East German Stasi also engaged in rampant surveillance, using a network of snitches to assemble secret files on every resident of East Berlin. They knew who was telling subversive jokes--but missed the fact that the Wall was about to come down.

When you watch everyone, you watch no one.

This seems to have escaped the operators of the digital surveillance technologies that are taking over our cities. In the brave new world of doorbell cams, wi-fi sniffers, RFID passes, bag searches at the subway and photo lookups at office security desks, universal surveillance is seen as the universal solution to all urban ills. But the truth is that ubiquitous cameras only serve to violate the social contract that makes cities work.

The key to living in a city and peacefully co-existing as a social animal in tight quarters is to set a delicate balance of seeing and not seeing. You take care not to step on the heels of the woman in front of you on the way out of the subway, and you might take passing note of her most excellent handbag. But you don't make eye contact and exchange a nod. Or even if you do, you make sure that it's as fleeting as it can be.

Checking your mirrors is good practice even in stopped traffic, but staring and pointing at the schmuck next to you who's got his finger so far up his nostril he's in danger of lobotomizing himself is bad form--worse form than picking your nose, even.

I once asked a Japanese friend to explain why so many people on the Tokyo subway wore surgical masks. Are they extreme germophobes? Conscientious folks getting over a cold? Oh, yes, he said, yes, of course, but that's only the rubric. The real reason to wear the mask is to spare others the discomfort of seeing your facial expression, to make your face into a disengaged, unreadable blank--to spare others the discomfort of firing up their mirror neurons in order to model your mood based on your outward expression. To make it possible to see without seeing.

There is one city dweller that doesn't respect this delicate social contract: the closed-circuit television camera. Ubiquitous and demanding, CCTVs don't have any visible owners. They ... occur. They exist in the passive voice, the "mistakes were made" voice: "The camera recorded you."

They are like an emergent property of the system, of being afraid and looking for cheap answers. And they are everywhere: In London, residents are photographed more than 300 times a day.

The irony of security cameras is that they watch, but nobody cares that they're looking. Junkies don't worry about CCTVs. Crazed rapists and other purveyors of sudden, senseless violence aren't deterred. I was mugged twice on my old block in San Francisco by the crack dealers on my corner, within sight of two CCTVs and a police station. My rental car was robbed by a junkie in a Gastown garage in Vancouver in sight of a CCTV.

Three mad kids followed my friend out of the Tube in London last year and murdered him on his doorstep.

Crazy, desperate, violent people don't make rational calculus in regards to their lives. Anyone who becomes a junkie, crack dealer, or cellphone-stealing stickup artist is obviously bad at making life decisions. They're not deterred by surveillance.

Yet the cameras proliferate, and replace human eyes. The cops on my block in San Francisco stayed in their cars and let the cameras do the watching. The Tube station didn't have any human guards after dark, just a CCTV to record the fare evaders.

Now London city councils are installing new CCTVs with loudspeakers, operated by remote coppers who can lean in and make a speaker bark at you, "Citizen, pick up your litter." "Stop leering at that woman." "Move along."

Yeah, that'll work.

Every day the glass-domed cameras proliferate, and the gate-guarded mentality of the deep suburbs threatens to invade our cities. More doorbell webcams, more mailbox cams, more cams in our cars.

The city of the future is shaping up to be a neighborly Panopticon, leeched of the cosmopolitan ability to see, and not be seen, where every nose pick is noted and logged and uploaded to the Internet. You don't have anything to hide, sure, but there's a reason we close the door to the bathroom before we drop our drawers. Everyone poops, but it takes a special kind of person to want to do it in public.

The trick now is to contain the creeping cameras of the law. When the city surveils its citizens, it legitimizes our mutual surveillance--what's the difference between the cops watching your every move, or the mall owners watching you, or you doing it to the guy next door?

I'm an optimist. I think our social contracts are stronger than our technology. They're the strongest bonds we have. We don't aim telescopes through each others' windows, because only creeps do that.

But we need to reclaim the right to record our own lives as they proceed. We need to reverse decisions like the one that allowed the New York Metropolitan Transit Authority to line subway platforms with terrorism cameras, but said riders may not take snapshots in the station. We need to win back the right to photograph our human heritage in museums and galleries, and we need to beat back the snitch-cams rent-a-cops use to make our cameras stay in our pockets.

They're our cities and our institutions. And we choose the future we want to live in.

DrT
August 24th, 2007, 09:20 PM
^^
Very insightful and well stated comments. Difficult to respond to with lots of truths enumerated. Enjoyed reading them.

Not being as eloquent, I would like to add a couple of thoughts.

Cameras, while not necessarily a strong deterrent for criminals, do help to catch criminals and get them off the streets. The numbers of cameras has multiplied so rapidly in Britain because it has been their experience that once an area or street is put under surveilance, criminals go elsewhere. The criminals may not stop their lifestyle, but they do go elsewhere.

To some degree I feel my privacy violated, but we are still talking about PUBLIC spaces, where there is no expectation of privacy. This loss is weighed against the gain in personal safety. I would rather lose a little privacy than be robbed, mugged or killed.

In places with extensive surveilance, I do feel safer. I feel safer, say, at the airport, inside a mall or store with CCTV all around, than when I leave these areas, in darkened streets or parking lots with no one watching. You can view it as a kind of neighborhood watch program, where your neighbors and fellow citizens keep an eye on you to help you if you need it.

The real key to achieving a comfort level with surveilance, is, the assurance that the authorities in charge will use this information properly and only for the intended purposes, not allowed it to be supoened by lawyers to use against you in civil courts, for example, by a spouse who wants a big divorce settlement, etc. Proper supervision of the police and authorities is the trickiest part by far, but as long as there is a fairly democratic system and we force transparent and open monitoring of the authorities, I'm for them.

noob(but not really)
August 24th, 2007, 09:28 PM
To some degree I feel my privacy violated, but we are still talking about PUBLIC spaces, where there is no expectation of privacy. This loss is weighed against the gain in personal safety. I would rather lose a little privacy than be robbed, mugged or killed.


But come on... buses?

And you don't need them on every street corner. :bash:

DrT
August 25th, 2007, 04:40 AM
But come on... buses?

And you don't need them on every street corner. :bash:

Taxi drivers also want them as a deterent.

Granted, you would think on a bus, the other riders would serve as "eyes and ears" and witnesses, but I imagine on some far flung suburban routes, it may only be the driver and the crazed idiot on meth.

Juries really love to convict when you show them the video.