Is it true that the 7th BTO of G&W will be the 1,998sq.m. property of PDIC located at 2nd Ave. corner 30th Street?:ohno:

Gibs should fill us in kung meron na nga.. wait lang nang konti

Just wondering where about is 2nd Ave. corner 30th Street? Just that from what I've heard the candidate lot for the 7th BTO project is suppose to be somewhere across/near the Price Smart structure though not sure if they were actually able to secure the said lot. Yeah better just to wait for Gibs to fill us in. Soon I hope! :) :) :)

2nd Avenue cor. 30th Street in Crescent Park West, Bonifacio global City.
Right across Blue Sapphire Residences and The Fort Residences of RLC.

Its at the back of Kensington and Penhurst...
a broker and an architect told me.

PDIC owns that property and the other is at 24th Street, beside Seibu tower.

:banana:

I think G&W failed to negotiate with FBDC/BCDA to the lot across Price Smart.

BCDA now only allows a long-term lease of their lots in BGC.:nuts:

wow BGC lots must be getting more precious by the minute..!

Thanks for the street/vicinity info Phoenix. I wonder when GW will be officially announcing this 7th BTO project. So very excited to see how the newest building will look. Hopefully soon. Hint hint Gibs! Hehehe... :) :) :)

Hello Guys, I apprecaite all the excitement and anticipation...and believe me, I want to announce as much information as possible also...but at the moment, some details are still being finalized and I do not want to make any committments unless it is set in stone. :)

so something is really cooking somewhere... he he...

so something is really cooking somewhere... he he...

Sana bago maluto ay tapos na ako SOHO.:) Because I really like all G&W Projects. Specially when I saw some of the pictures Gibson posted here. :) Sana magkaroon sila ng project na malapit sa Greenbelt.:)

Sana bago maluto ay tapos na ako SOHO.:) Because I really like all G&W Projects. Specially when I saw some of the pictures Gibson posted here. :) Sana magkaroon sila ng project na malapit sa Greenbelt.:)

Thanks! Actually, there is also a property that is being studied in that area...but as of the moment, the priority is really to be in BGC...sana you can consider BGC...it has really worked well for a lot of our clients in the past, and we see this trend to continue to the future.

^^ Hehehe...My heart leaped when I saw Gibs' posted. Akala ko he was already announcing the new project in this thread. Anyway, just fill us in on the details Gibs when ready. We appreciate that you'd want everything ironed out first before posting the latest project info in the forum/thread. All the best to you and GW! :) :) :)

OT: Since we're talking about location. I was on flight via PAL and reading their in-flight magazine and i saw the ad for Fort Victoria (from New San Jose Builders, of Victoria Towers, Victoria Station etc), the location pala of Fort Victoria ay sa 23rd Street, which is at the back of Pacific Plaza. Wow pretty good location i must say. And units daw starts at 1.9M.

OT: Since we're talking about location. I was on flight via PAL and reading their in-flight magazine and i saw the ad for Fort Victoria (from New San Jose Builders, of Victoria Towers, Victoria Station etc), the location pala of Fort Victoria ay sa 23rd Street, which is at the back of Pacific Plaza. Wow pretty good location i must say. And units daw starts at 1.9M.

That seems pretty early announcement on their part...since that lot was just recently offered to us by the owners (last week). We're quite interested on that property and will engage in negotiations with them...but its not for BTO7, maybe a BTO 8 or 9...depending on how things go.

^^ Gibs, Just wondering on the status of the lot beside Fairways and Pacific Plaza (on fifth Avenue) with views of Manila Golf? Any news what's being planned on that lot? Is that for sale too? Curious lang naman...

^^ Gibs, Just wondering on the status of the lot beside Fairways and Pacific Plaza (on fifth Avenue) with views of Manila Golf? Any news what's being planned on that lot? Is that for sale too? Curious lang naman...
The lot being used as the staging area for fairways? I don't really know yet...it was offered to us a long time ago, but we passed because of the high cost they are asking for...a lot above ayala lot cost. but I haven't heard from them lately...its still being used eh, so I assume the owners are just collecting the revenue from that.

^^ Ahh I see. That's exactly what Mr. Vergara of Philtown told me as well when they inquired about the lot when planning for Fairways daw. The owner wanted too much (way above the prevailing rate) which was why they decided to pass on it as well. Thanks Gibs. :)

yikes, you mean they don't own the land pa as of the moment? really premature indeed to print it out. and ganda ng loc nun, IMHO. Is it the last piece of land available in BGC that has golf course view?

That seems pretty early announcement on their part...since that lot was just recently offered to us by the owners (last week). We're quite interested on that property and will engage in negotiations with them...but its not for BTO7, maybe a BTO 8 or 9...depending on how things go.

I'm a little confused. G&W is an architectural firm right? but they are purchasing and developing BGC lots? so that makes them a developer now?

I'm a little confused. G&W is an architectural firm right? but they are purchasing and developing BGC lots? so that makes them a developer now?

We don't purchase the lot ourselves...we evaluate a lot...make a plan for it, and group together people who will buy the lot, and hire us to be their architect to build the proposed building on that lot. Our firm is a called G&W Architects, Engineers and Project Development Consultants.

Apart from being an Architects, we also offer consultancy service for developers who would like to package together a project. We also are able to find investor group and bring stakeholders together to form a project.

We have done many projects for foreign clients as well, who wanted to invest in the Philippines, and needed local expertise to make their goals a reality.

Side note lang, i love the projects of G&W, really world-class. So kung maging developer man eventually ang G&W, i must say na may maganda na silang pangalan.

We don't purchase the lot ourselves...we evaluate a lot...make a plan for it, and group together people who will buy the lot, and hire us to be their architect to build the proposed building on that lot. Our firm is a called G&W Architects, Engineers and Project Development Consultants.

Apart from being an Architects, we also offer consultancy service for developers who would like to package together a project. We also are able to find investor group and bring stakeholders together to form a project.

We have done many projects for foreign clients as well, who wanted to invest in the Philippines, and needed local expertise to make their goals a reality.

Ok thanks for the clarification. Indeed, keep up the good work. G&W projects are always something to look forward too:okay:

Side note lang, i love the projects of G&W, really world-class. So kung maging developer man eventually ang G&W, i must say na may maganda na silang pangalan.

>>i agree-- G&W projects are great!! :banana: but i doubt if they will eventually become a 'developer'. BTO is their proven system and that is how they keep the prices lower than the competition... :)

The Lot adjacent to Fairways Tower is already acquired by Filinvest Land. The one fronting Pacific Plaza will be the location of Fort Victoria (i think so).

With 7th BTO project, i really think that the location will still be in Crescent Park West, maybe the property of PDIC right across The Fort Residences of Robinsons Land.

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how could i paste that map in a bigger version??/:ohno:

how could i paste that map in a bigger version??/:ohno:

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Just wondering if anybody knows the status of the lot beside Fairways and Pacific Plaza (on fifth Avenue) with views of Manila Golf? Any news what's being planned on that lot? Is that for sale too? Curious lang naman...
The Lot adjacent to Fairways Tower is already acquired by Filinvest Land. The one fronting Pacific Plaza will be the location of Fort Victoria (i think so).

With 7th BTO project, i really think that the location will still be in Crescent Park West, maybe the property of PDIC right across The Fort Residences of Robinsons Land.

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^^ Ahh so this is the site/lot pala that FilInvest will be developing in Fort Bonifacio they mentioned will be formally announced in the second half of the year. That's the last of the golf course view properties along Manila Golf if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for the info Phoenix! :)

Last of the golf course view lot that was unclaimed? or the last lot that has a golf course view that could be built on?

I think there are 2 more lots
Megaworld still has an open lot beside Bellagio 3
and the lot Beside Bonifacio Ridge.

An Architect told me that G&W joined the private bidding for the two lots of PDIC in BGC. So, it maybe on that lot right across The Fort Residences will be the site of their 7th BTO. Congrats kung nanalo sila sa Bidding. Their projects are selling well.

Here's an updated map of BGC, inedit ko lang sya thru Photoshop...

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3205/bgccl0.jpg

The lot beside Bonifacio Ridge, i think they will lease it out, that was the info from Bases Conversion & Development Authority (BCDA).

With the lots facing Manila Golf adjacent to Bellagio 3, idedevelop din daw ng Megaworld eh pati dun sa showroom nila.

Filinvest and FBDC confirmed it yesterday that Filinvest purchased the lot adjacent to Fairways. Congrats... (hopefully totoo sinabi nila)

Fort Victoria, not yet sure but at their website, its along 23rd Street eh...

Stay Tower, i think Hyopan have already changed the name of it.:lol:

^^ Thanks again for your Fort Boni updates Phoenix! Nice work Bro! Great Job! :okay: :okay:

Btw I see the Shang Grand location (corner of 4th and Rizal) in your map. Confirmed na ba that it will be on that lot/site? Just that I was told before the Shang Hotel will be along 5th Avenue. Just wondering curious lang naman if there was indeed a change.

Last of the golf course view lot that was unclaimed? or the last lot that has a golf course view that could be built on?

I think there are 2 more lots
Megaworld still has an open lot beside Bellagio 3
and the lot Beside Bonifacio Ridge.

^^ Unclaimed Rick since the other lots left were previously taken and owned by developers already. Megaworld owns some (area across their Parklane project) and will build a twin tower (88 Forbes is the tentative name) there while Boni Ridge still has a two tower lot beside the existing towers along Manila Golf which they've yet to build on. Other than those, no more lots along Manila Golf left for sale that's why I said Filinvest got the last of the golf course view lots since the smallish triangular lot beside Boni Ridge is lease property (as confirmed by Phoenix) which means it's highly unlikely it will be another residential highrise project - probably an office building or commercial structure instead.

Thanks for sorting that out...

I think we'll just have to be patient.
When G&W is ready, I'm pretty sure they'll will announce right away.
Baka mamaya if they announce pre-mature ma sulot pa sila. :ohno:

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I wish that there will be more office buildings coming up soon...
So more possible renters... :lol:

I hope that a big percentage of people who bought condo units will actually live in it rather than have it rented out.
Baka mahirap mag pa rent if plenty of compettion... :ohno:

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CONDOS................OFFICES..............SCHOOLS...............COMM./MALLS
Bonifacio Ridge.......St.Lukes Med........Bonifacio Tech........Market Market
Bellagio 1...............Singapore Chan....Bonifacio Stop.........Bonifacio High St.
Bellagio 2 ...............Net One..............Int. School.............NBC Tent
Bellagio 3...............Fort 26th.............British School..........The Fort
Forbeswood Hhts.....Net Square..........Japanese School......Sports Kamp
Parklane.................Net Cube............Phil Pub.Safety Coll...Speed Zone
The Icon................Net Plaza.........................................Car Plaza
Avant....................Fort Legends....................................Price Smart
One McKinley..........HSBC..............................................MC Home Depot
Pacific Plaza...........DOE................................................Hyundai Show.
Fairways Towers
Reagent Parkways
Essensa
5th Ave. Place
Seibu Tower
Luxe Residences
McKinley Park Res.
The Fort Res.
Grand Hamptons 1
Grand Hamptons 2
Sapphire
Blue Sapphire
Penhurst
Kensington
Fort Palm Springs
Chateau de Noble
Stay Tower
The Infinity
South of market
Serendra
Trion Towers
W Tower

Regis Residences
Fort Victoria
Shang Grand
*Filinvest Property

nice list The Rick, note that Boni Tech also has office spaces.

At this stage, majority of the offices are BPO. Its employees are not the target market of the condos here so I doubt if people that actually work here will also live here. Maybe for some of their senior managers / expats.

Even ordinary employees in Makati can't afford condos here.

Every Nation at the corner of University Parkway and 32nd street is a Christian Leadership Insitute. FYI you can add it to your school list.

The Rick, that's a pretty nice list you started there!
Hopefully mas madami pang embassies ang mag-settle sa BGC, because I noticed that the value of properties shoot up wherever there's a concentration of embassies -- that is especially true in Singapore (the Tanglin area) and Ottawa in Canada.

nice list The Rick, note that Boni Tech also has office spaces.

At this stage, majority of the offices are BPO. Its employees are not the target market of the condos here so I doubt if people that actually work here will also live here. Maybe for some of their senior managers / expats.

Even ordinary employees in Makati can't afford condos here.


That's a good point.

In that case. I hope plenty of office building will be made so that more companies can transfer - so there would be more senior managers / expats in the area. :lol:

The Rick, that's a pretty nice list you started there!
Hopefully mas madami pang embassies ang mag-settle sa BGC, because I noticed that the value of properties shoot up wherever there's a concentration of embassies -- that is especially true in Singapore (the Tanglin area) and Ottawa in Canada.

I hope so too...

Hopefully its a good start with Singapore (FGBC) and British / Korea (McKinley Hill).
Together with the International, British and Japanese schools in the area that might entice more embassies to be relocated in the FBGC area.

Maybe they bunch up together close to the singapore emb. so that area could be known as the Embassy area... :lol:

^^ Thanks again for your Fort Boni updates Phoenix! Nice work Bro! Great Job! :okay: :okay:

Btw I see the Shang Grand location (corner of 4th and Rizal) in your map. Confirmed na ba that it will be on that lot/site? Just that I was told before the Shang Hotel will be along 5th Avenue. Just wondering curious lang naman if there was indeed a change.

I think the Grand Shang in the map is the model unit of the Grand Shang before, which is not the Infinity model unit. The location of the Shang AFAIK is still not yet disclosed.

Re: Stay Tower, I believe Hyopan has changed the name to VS tower

So more possible renters... :lol:

I hope that a big percentage of people who bought condo units will actually live in it rather than have it rented out.
Baka mahirap mag pa rent if plenty of compettion... :ohno:

Office tenants are not really the only source of Tenants for BGC...That is what I thought in the beginning to, but with all the units I have handled the lease for, or have helped our unit owners find a tenant (estimate to about 25 units already), only 1 of them are actually working in BGC. Most others are still either working in Makati, or are here for schooling in the various international schools.

Expats who are here in Manila would rather have their children closer to the school, rather than themselves closer to the work place....

Don't worry about the office spaces, it is not really a big source of tenants...there are a lot of reason why a person will stay in BGC...I find that people would rather live in a smaller more expensive unit in BGC compared to a bigger less expensive place in Makati...BGC is still more attractive.

Office tenants are not really the only source of Tenants for BGC...That is what I thought in the beginning to, but with all the units I have handled the lease for, or have helped our unit owners find a tenant (estimate to about 25 units already), only 1 of them are actually working in BGC. Most others are still either working in Makati, or are here for schooling in the various international schools.

Expats who are here in Manila would rather have their children closer to the school, rather than themselves closer to the work place....

Don't worry about the office spaces, it is not really a big source of tenants...there are a lot of reason why a person will stay in BGC...I find that people would rather live in a smaller more expensive unit in BGC compared to a bigger less expensive place in Makati...BGC is still more attractive.

Sweeeeet.... Very very nice info! :banana:
That is nice because it came from your experience. :lol:

I agree with Gibson.

Take Boni Ridge for example.. karamihan nang tenants na nakikita ko don eh mga filipino chinese, filipino japanese, filipino koreans and some filipino meztizos.. so yun ang nakaka afford.. usually yung dati nang mayaman, or yung mga filipinos na nakapag asawa nang foreigners..

meron ding mga lolo at lola.. yung mga retired na.. siguro they are based in the province or abroad.. tapos they have a unit there para may place sila dito sa Manila..

plus yung mga artista at yung mga basketball players.. kasi ito yung may malaking source of income..

Btw I see the Shang Grand location (corner of 4th and Rizal) in your map. Confirmed na ba that it will be on that lot/site? Just that I was told before the Shang Hotel will be along 5th Avenue. Just wondering curious lang naman if there was indeed a change.[/QUOTE]

Will this project really push thru (Shang Grand)?

inde ba showroom nang shang grand dito sa Makati yan?

^^ Ahh good that it's only the Shang Grand showroom and not the actual Shang Hotel location. At first I was kinda disappointed because the lot was on the small side for a Shang 6 star hotel. Good it's just the showroom.

^^ Used to be the Shang Grand showroom, now The Infinity showroom.

^^ Ahh good that it's only the Shang Grand showroom and not the actual Shang Hotel location. At first I was kinda disappointed because the lot was on the small side for a Shang 6 star hotel. Good it's just the showroom.

but Shang Grand is residential, am i right? not the 6 star hotel, which is a different Shangri-la project.

^^ Yes, The Shang Grand Tower in Makati is residential, with the showroom previously on BGC. It's different from the planned 6-Star Bonifacio Shangri-La.

^^ Yes Ryan you are correct. Just that originally I thought that the Shang Grand in the map was the supposed Global City site already for that highly anticipated Shang 6 star hotel that's being bantered around for months now. Only to realize that the Shang Grand in that map was actually the old showroom that housed the model units for the said Shang Makati project which according to Aaron is the showroom for Infinity now. I have not really heard anything for sometime now on that Shang Hotel in BGC. Hope it's still in the pipeline. :)

@Gibs, wala pa bang rendering ang 7th BTO? Masyadong suspense !!

So wala palang Shang Tower na ginagawa...ah ok, now its clear. Updae naman sa 7th BTO

Ok, here are some preliminary information for SSC members only...

The tower will be located in lot 2 behind penhurst and kensington, acquired from PDIC.

The new tower will have similar sizes to current designs but will feature a new concept. Like in Sapphire and Hamptons Units, where we have the "Multi-Corner" units, the new tower will have a new style of design internally dubbed as "wide-fronts", which will feature units that are oriented to have wide windows....

Since the lot is 1,998 sqm with an FAR of 8, the GFA will be slightly bigger than the current Sapphire towers (from 14,400 to 15,984), while maintaining the existing foot print of the building, will result in a taller building. The building footprint will only be approx 30% of the lot area.

Hope this helps! I hoped to launch earlier with exact same design with Sapphire towers, but my brother inisted on implemeting a new design to give this tower its own charachter as well...so it will take a little longer, but will surely be worth it.

^^ Don't make us too jealous of the new building Gibs! I am already jealous of Blue Sapphire as it is :D

Wow, the building footprint is just 30% of the lot area?!? That's very nice indeed!

Ok, here are some preliminary information for SSC members only...

The tower will be located in lot 2 behind penhurst and kensington, acquired from PDIC.

The new tower will have similar sizes to current designs but will feature a new concept. Like in Sapphire and Hamptons Units, where we have the "Multi-Corner" units, the new tower will have a new style of design internally dubbed as "wide-fronts", which will feature units that are oriented to have wide windows....

Since the lot is 1,998 sqm with an FAR of 8, the GFA will be slightly bigger than the current Sapphire towers (from 14,400 to 15,984), while maintaining the existing foot print of the building, will result in a taller building. The building footprint will only be approx 30% of the lot area.

Hope this helps! I hoped to launch earlier with exact same design with Sapphire towers, but my brother inisted on implemeting a new design to give this tower its own charachter as well...so it will take a little longer, but will surely be worth it.

Great location @gibs at the corner of 2nd and 30th. I'm excited. :)

Thanks for the update Gibs. Can't wait for the renderings. So it's indeed going to be at 2nd and 30th just like Phoenix said. By the rotunda - Nice location indeed! :)

Is it true that the 7th BTO of G&W will be the 1,998sq.m. property of PDIC located at 2nd Ave. corner 30th Street?

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/Fort-5.jpg

Wow, pag bumili ako diyan eh de eyeball to eyeball kami ni Cynch. Mamimili na ako ng unit facing Cynch's bedroom window, tapos install ng web cam kaagad :nuts:

ummm, so it's across The Fort Residences. That lot is big enough for a 30 storeys plus plus building. nice loc.

i hope it's really glassy and modern looking.like these condos sprouting in th Portland area.


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^^ Don't make us too jealous of the new building Gibs! I am already jealous of Blue Sapphire as it is :D

Wow, the building footprint is just 30% of the lot area?!? That's very nice indeed!

Jen, share tayo sa costs. Buy tayo ng penthouse unit tapos i "color coding" natin so to say. You use it on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays. Ako naman Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays. Sundays we toss a coin :colgate: :colgate:

Wow, pag bumili ako diyan eh de eyeball to eyeball kami ni Cynch. Mamimili na ako ng unit facing Cynch's bedroom window, tapos install ng web cam kaagad :nuts:

Ayaw! Wholesome ako. I love cartoons!

Gibs, I'm expecting the 7th BTO to be more good-looking than The Blue Sapphire Residences

Wow, pag bumili ako diyan eh de eyeball to eyeball kami ni Cynch. Mamimili na ako ng unit facing Cynch's bedroom window, tapos install ng web cam kaagad :nuts:

Aaaay ganoon? Ayaw! :lol: :lol:

Gibs, I hope that the 7th BTO will be more good-looking than The Blue Sapphire Residences!!!!

The 7th BTO project will be part of that cluster of GW buildings on the right hand side of this pic posted by realtor_manila.
Thank You Cynch! :) :) :)

August 18, 2007

BGC is flood-free!

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Jen, share tayo sa costs. Buy tayo ng penthouse unit.....

Ang taray mo ha! Penthouse talaga?!?! Antayin muna natin anong name ng 7th BTO project... then we determine kung type natin, di va?

hey is this the 7th BTO site?.... Just noticed today that they're now dressing up the whole fence with tarpouline that says... Build Your Own...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v162/pau_p1/DSC04424.jpg

Build Your Own?
Isn't that the people building Fort Palm Springs?

^^ Naku Pau ang GW eh BTO (Build To Own) sa pagkaka alam ko. Yung BYO (Build Your Own) eh version naman ng developer of Fort Palms yan. :) :) :)

ay ganun ba.. hehehehe... sorry wrong name.. hehehehe =)

Well, that is really the purpose of this developer, to try and immitate our name as close as possible...so that people will get confused...shows you their true intentions!

But I believe the the knowledgeable buyer will surely find out that they are just a new player with no experience in construction and development. Just their ads say it all...only 6,900 pesos per month!

Its frustrating sometimes, all these gimmicks to try and trick people!

'Build Your Own' sounds wrong anyway, makes you think you will have to build it yourself!

'Build Your Own' sounds wrong anyway, makes you think you will have to build it yourself!

:lol: Funny...

Not too excited about that location...
On 32nd st might be too busy for me (traffic wise)...

hey is this the 7th BTO site?.... Just noticed today that they're now dressing up the whole fence with tarpouline that says... Build Your Own...

Does the new BYO (not BTO) development have a name?
Dapat yata katukin yung bakod para malaman... :lol:

Edited to add:
Ooops, looks like there's a separate thread for this one already...so off topic na itong post ko.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the new BTO and previewing the "wide-front" feature Gibson mentioned earlier.

Hay... i am right... just across The Fort Residences...

Hoorayyy for G&W!:banana:

Hay... i am right... just across The Fort Residences...

Hoorayyy for G&W!:banana:

Yeah, you've been right all along...we were aleady in the final stages of negotiations at that time...we just did not want to announce before we have all the documents sign, the t's crossed and the i dotted! :)

Now that would prove the rumor TFR would have a twin across it wrong.

^^ Pwede pa siguro Aaron if ever Robinson can buy the Chateau De Noble lot...

^^ I'd want it to be taken over by Eton so RLC can focus on bigger projects like the Trion and their most prestigious yet, the luxury twin-towers on 5th Ave.

^^ Pwede pa siguro Aaron if ever Robinson can buy the Chateau De Noble lot...

Why not by G&W?:)

^^ Well because I'm still hoping the lot San Jose Builder is planning to put up Fort Victoria on would rather be a GW project instead! Gibs mentioned that lot (across Pacific Plaza) was offered to GW as well but don't know what came out of it. Sana GW na lang di ba! :) :) :)

Ok, here are some preliminary information for SSC members only...

The tower will be located in lot 2 behind penhurst and kensington, acquired from PDIC.

The new tower will have similar sizes to current designs but will feature a new concept. Like in Sapphire and Hamptons Units, where we have the "Multi-Corner" units, the new tower will have a new style of design internally dubbed as "wide-fronts", which will feature units that are oriented to have wide windows....

Since the lot is 1,998 sqm with an FAR of 8, the GFA will be slightly bigger than the current Sapphire towers (from 14,400 to 15,984), while maintaining the existing foot print of the building, will result in a taller building. The building footprint will only be approx 30% of the lot area.

Hope this helps! I hoped to launch earlier with exact same design with Sapphire towers, but my brother inisted on implemeting a new design to give this tower its own charachter as well...so it will take a little longer, but will surely be worth it.

@gibson

since all three buildings on the block will be g&w projects, you think you can consider applying the grand hamptons model of having reciprocal privileges/shared amenities for owners of the 3 condos? :)

that way you can do away with building the ubiquitous swimming pool and function room solely for this latest b-t-o offering. baka pwede badminton courts naman at gym.

people in all 3 buildings can swim in the penhurst covered pool if they don't wanna bake under the sun, swim in the outdoor kensington pool if they wanna get a tan, hold parties at the roofdeck function of kensington (may manila golf views pa), and play badminton or work out in the new building.

baka feasible naman kasi with g&w's retained units in penhurst and kensington, you still have a major say in the HOA of these buildings.

just my 2 cents' worth. i think it will further enhance the value proposition not only of this latest project, but of the 2 existing ones as well. hope you consider this suggestion. :)

@gibson

since all three buildings on the block will be g&w projects, you think you can consider applying the grand hamptons model of having reciprocal privileges/shared amenities for owners of the 3 condos? :)

that way you can do away with building the ubiquitous swimming pool and function room solely for this latest b-t-o offering. baka pwede badminton courts naman at gym.

people in all 3 buildings can swim in the penhurst covered pool if they don't wanna bake under the sun, swim in the outdoor kensington pool if they wanna get a tan, hold parties at the roofdeck function of kensington (may manila golf views pa), and play badminton or work out in the new building.

baka feasible naman kasi with g&w's retained units in penhurst and kensington, you still have a major say in the HOA of these buildings.

just my 2 cents' worth. i think it will further enhance the value proposition not only of this latest project, but of the 2 existing ones as well. hope you consider this suggestion. :)


Kensington has a roofdeck function room? WOW!
Can unit owners of Grand Hamptons 1&2, Sapphire (Blue) and Penhurst use that too? (Greedy :lol: )

That's a pretty good suggestion.
I think it would only work if there are no walls between the 3 different projects (like in the Grand Hamptons 1 & 2).
I think there is already a wall between Penhurst and Kensington.

A roofdeck function room is really nice. (maybe a roofdeck badminton courts - Joke Joke)

Kensington has a roofdeck function room? WOW!
Can unit owners of Grand Hamptons 1&2, Sapphire (Blue) and Penhurst use that too? (Greedy :lol: )

That's a pretty good suggestion.
I think it would only work if there are no walls between the 3 different projects (like in the Grand Hamptons 1 & 2).
I think there is already a wall between Penhurst and Kensington.

A roofdeck function room is really nice. (maybe a roofdeck badminton courts - Joke Joke)

yup. meron sa taas facing makati skyline and manila golf. unobstructed view at that height kasi hindi naman masyado mataas yung towers ng boni ridge.

pwede naman gumawa ng pedestrian gates between the property walls of each building (like the common wall separating the pools of penhurst n kensington). advantage pa nga kasi hindi security nightmare ang logistics ng flow of people. :)

hehe. halata ba ang ulterior motive ko? gusto ko lang ng badminton court na malapit sa kensington. hahahaha!

Honestly, I'd prefer that whatever will be the amenities of each condo building will be for the exclusive use of the unit owners/amenities of each building. Otherwise, the value proposition of exclusivity and privacy will be sacrificed.

As an individual, I'm not so comfortable seeing lots of people using the amenities.

Promise, ayaw talaga!

^^ Yup that's true and just to add to what Realtor_Manila/Cynch already said, such sharing arrangement will also be hard to implement as well since in essence we're talking of different projects here. Eventhough all of the said projects are GW's, once they are turned-over, there will be distinct HOA groups for each respective project so in the end of the day each project will be a separate independent entity unlike say Serendra for example where this arrangement is possible.

Good point.

Now i see that's the downside of sharing amenities...

Honestly, I'd prefer that whatever will be the amenities of each condo building will be for the exclusive use of the unit owners/amenities of each building. Otherwise, the value proposition of exclusivity and privacy will be sacrificed.

As an individual, I'm not so comfortable seeing lots of people using the amenities.

Promise, ayaw talaga!

point taken. :)

however, it just seems to me that the pools of kensington and penhurst are underutilized naman eh. save for a few kids who swim some afternoons, usually empty yung amenities areas. saka may fees naman involved if you use the function rooms or the (hypothetical) badminton courts, so it doesn't mean naman na dadagsain yung mga amenities na ganito. i just thought that it would offer owners new choices.

regarding exclusivity, i was just thinking of comparing the number of units in serendra that will share the common amenities. parang mas marami pa naman yun kesa the combined units of kensington, penhurst, and the new tower, pero hindi naman nawawala yung premium on serendra.

saka with the number of units sold to overseas-based filipinos, hindi naman talaga fully occupied o tenanted yung kensington. am assuming similar rin yun situation sa penhurst. :)

anyway, i fully understand and respect where you're coming from. i hope these opinions are not offending anyone. cheers. :)

Why not by G&W?:)

I don't think Tan group would let that property go...I am sure eventually they will develop on it. I had a broker ask, without disclosing my identity...they said in what seemed like a high in pride voice, quoted by the broker to me: "We will never sell that lot". So that is the end of it :)

@gibson

since all three buildings on the block will be g&w projects, you think you can consider applying the grand hamptons model of having reciprocal privileges/shared amenities for owners of the 3 condos? :)

that way you can do away with building the ubiquitous swimming pool and function room solely for this latest b-t-o offering. baka pwede badminton courts naman at gym.

people in all 3 buildings can swim in the penhurst covered pool if they don't wanna bake under the sun, swim in the outdoor kensington pool if they wanna get a tan, hold parties at the roofdeck function of kensington (may manila golf views pa), and play badminton or work out in the new building.

baka feasible naman kasi with g&w's retained units in penhurst and kensington, you still have a major say in the HOA of these buildings.

just my 2 cents' worth. i think it will further enhance the value proposition not only of this latest project, but of the 2 existing ones as well. hope you consider this suggestion. :)

That's a great suggestion...actually, if I had itmy way, I would also have them all combined.

However, the reality is, we still have to make sure the unit owners of other buildings are ammenable to this arrangement. I share your opinion on the matter, but some people may say that they want privacy, and the comfort of having less new faces to use the ammentity while they are using it.

Although we retained some units, we are not a majority. If I win the lotto and is able to become a majority, I would still vote based on the vote of the majority of the remaining units. As a client service oriented comapny, I think it is our duty to give the clients/majority what they want.

Since both Kensington and Penhurst are operating already, I think the proper process for this is to wait for the completion of the 7th tower, and then have a proposal to be brought up to the HOA of each tower, so see if they can have an understanding.

Actually, I would rather that all 7 towers have an understanding to share each other's ammenities. It'll give each unit owner 6 pools to choose from, a couple of gyms, a couple of function rooms, etc. without the added cost of maintaining all of them.

^^ Well because I'm still hoping the lot San Jose Builder is planning to put up Fort Victoria on would rather be a GW project instead! Gibs mentioned that lot (across Pacific Plaza) was offered to GW as well but don't know what came out of it. Sana GW na lang di ba! :) :) :)I hope so too, we are meeting with them again this week...!

I think it would only work if there are no walls between the 3 different projects (like in the Grand Hamptons 1 & 2).
I think there is already a wall between Penhurst and Kensington.

These are quite easy to change if the unit owners agree...:)

Honestly, I'd prefer that whatever will be the amenities of each condo building will be for the exclusive use of the unit owners/amenities of each building. Otherwise, the value proposition of exclusivity and privacy will be sacrificed.

As an individual, I'm not so comfortable seeing lots of people using the amenities.

Promise, ayaw talaga!

Haha, I just read this now...:lol:

Well, there are always upside and downside to each option. I think what is important is to understand the proper process to achieve something like this. The arrangement can also be temporary, i.e. the HOA of each building will decide to allow this for 1 year, and see how it goes...and see how the homeowners warm up to it. If it doesn't then after a year, it stops...if it works well, then they can extend the agreement again.

I guess, I condsider us lucky to be able to have this choice of either being private, or being shared.

But you know, in the years that I have been in Penhurst, I have never seen the pool to be used a lot. There is always only a few people in it. Well, with Kensington, I hardly ever see anyone there...I tried it once, and tried the steam room...the whole time I was there on a saturday morning, not a single person came to use the pool. I arrived as another family (mom and 2 children) was about to leave.

I'm still hoping the lot San Jose Builder is planning to put up Fort Victoria on would rather be a GW project instead! Gibs mentioned that lot (across Pacific Plaza) was offered to GW as well but don't know what came out of it. Sana GW na lang di ba! :) :) :)
I hope so too, we are meeting with them again this week...! I really hope and pray you/GW do get that lot Gibs! Goodluck and God Bless! :) :) :)

I really hope and pray you/GW do get that lot Gibs! Goodluck and God Bless! :) :) :)

Thank you...well actually, I would pray that we would get it if it is meant to be, and not get it if it is not meant to be. It is not always a good thing when you get a lot...if it is received through a bad deal, getting the lot can mean a lot of problems :)

^^ True True. Just that the said lot is a really nice location along highend projects like Pacific Plaza where a GW building will surely blend in oh so nicely with the rest. I think that GW can do the area/lot more justice and is really befitting of a GW project anyway. Hopefully it's meant to be! :) :) :)

Honestly, I'd prefer that whatever will be the amenities of each condo building will be for the exclusive use of the unit owners/amenities of each building. Otherwise, the value proposition of exclusivity and privacy will be sacrificed.

As an individual, I'm not so comfortable seeing lots of people using the amenities.

Promise, ayaw talaga!

I'm really not interested in the amenities. I prefer to share Cynch's condo with her :lol: :lol: :lol:

@Gibs
Rendering ng 7th BTO Pleeeeeeeaaaase !!

I hope so too, we are meeting with them again this week...!

really? you're still meeting with them? i will include you in my prayers tonight. i would really hope G&W gets that lot! please, please, please! :banana:

Thank you...well actually, I would pray that we would get it if it is meant to be, and not get it if it is not meant to be. It is not always a good thing when you get a lot...if it is received through a bad deal, getting the lot can mean a lot of problems :)

^^ BUT please do update us on whatever happens with the deal.

If Fort Victoria is already on the marketing phase, then doesn't that mean the lot is already spoken for?

yeah, that's actually bothersome. its not final yet, but they're (fort victoria) announcing it already?

Yup looks like San Jose Builders probably jump the gun on this one and that's probably why any material/info regarding their Fort Victoria BGC project is on hold at this time. Even their website regarding the said project is on hold (under construction daw). No formal announcements/launching has been made as well. Anyway I really hope GW eventually gets that lot as I know they are very much capable of putting up a nice looking structure that will not only blend in with the surrounding buildings but also preserve and even enhance the overall beauty of the area. Sayang kasi that lot is really prime/visible being along 5th Ave. (a major roadway) so near the future/proposed Shangri-La 6 star Hotel and also just across the majestic Pacific Plaza along 4th Ave.. I'm definitely praying and rooting for GW to end up with the lot! Hope all goes well with the negotiations. Go GW! :okay:

yep go go go GW!

as for san jose, dami pa namang ibang lot! hehe.

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Thanks! :)

What happens if GW does get the lot...

Investors might opt to wait for that instead of the 7th BTO... :lol: (Joke)
So I think it should be top secret if GW does get it...

Isa isa lang muna... LOL
Let's wait for the much awaited renderings of the 7th BTO...
This is one is sure one...

^^ I just hope GW secures the lot instead of San Jose Builders because I know they can put up a much better building overall than SJ's Fort Victoria! :) :) :)



BTW Gibs, For the 7th BTO Project, are there still available commercial units facing Burgos Park (rotunda) or are all of your park side commercial units already spoken for? Just wondering what's available on the street level facing the said park and of course the future Forbes Town commercial strip. Many Thanks Gibs! :) :) :)

^^ I just hope GW secures the lot instead of San Jose Builders because I know they can put up a much better building overall than SJ's Fort Victoria! :) :) :)



BTW Gibs, For the 7th BTO Project, are there still available commercial units facing Burgos Park (rotunda) or are all of your park side commercial units already spoken for? Just wondering what's available on the street level facing the said park and of course the future Forbes Town commercial strip. Many Thanks Gibs! :) :) :)

I agree!

Just looking at Sapphire and the VS Tower...
Can't wait to see what the 7th BTO would look like...

Yup looks like San Jose Builders probably jump the gun on this one and that's probably why any material/info regarding their Fort Victoria BGC project is on hold at this time. Even their website regarding the said project is on hold (under construction daw). No formal announcements/launching has been made as well. Anyway I really hope GW eventually gets that lot as I know they are very much capable of putting up a nice looking structure that will not only blend in with the surrounding buildings but also preserve and even enhance the overall beauty of the area. Sayang kasi that lot is really prime/visible being along 5th Ave. (a major roadway) so near the future/proposed Shangri-La 6 star Hotel and also just across the majestic Pacific Plaza along 4th Ave.. I'm definitely praying and rooting for GW to end up with the lot! Hope all goes well with the negotiations. Go GW! :okay:

I hope GW gets that lot as well. Perfect spot for a flagship, high end BTO tower (or is that the VS Tower?). And like you said, right next to the Shangri-La hotel.

yep go go go GW!

as for san jose, dami pa namang ibang lot! hehe.

Ngek! Go Go Go ka dyan! Ang Go, Go & Go architects ay hindi yata connected sa G&W Architects, competitor yun! :colgate:

I hope GW gets that lot as well. Perfect spot for a flagship, high end BTO tower (or is that the VS Tower?). And like you said, right next to the Shangri-La hotel.

I agree!

Just looking at Sapphire and the VS Tower...
Can't wait to see what the 7th BTO would look like...


Hi, what is VS Tower? Vlue Sapphire? :)

Latest Rendering...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/STAY_TOWER_birds_eye_view_abstract_.jpg

Vlue Sapphire... :lol: :lol: :lol: Funny Girl!
(Unique Name - If ever... LOL)

VS Tower - before it was called Stay Tower

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=496103&page=6

G&W I think is the architect and builder of this BGC condo

ay oo nga! sa BYO yan! hahaha!

Ngek! Go Go Go ka dyan! Ang Go, Go & Go architects ay hindi yata connected sa G&W Architects, competitor yun! :colgate:

cool

^^ BUT please do update us on whatever happens with the deal.

Met with people who are involved, and it turns out they have already signed an agreement, that seemed quite unfair to the land owner. They now want to back out of it and discuss with us. Unfortunately, I am not sure if it is easy for them to do this...and we gave our committment to undertake it once their orignal agreement has been settled.

BTW Gibs, For the 7th BTO Project, are there still available commercial units facing Burgos Park (rotunda) or are all of your park side commercial units already spoken for? Just wondering what's available on the street level facing the said park and of course the future Forbes Town commercial strip. Many Thanks Gibs! :) :) :)

Thanks for the kind words...

There are currently 19 earnest deposits with checks for commercial units...there are only 9 on the ground floor, and only 3 facing the burgos park. I believe the ones in the Burgos park will be chosen first.

Met with people who are involved, and it turns out they have already signed an agreement, that seemed quite unfair to the land owner. They now want to back out of it and discuss with us. Unfortunately, I am not sure if it is easy for them to do this...and we gave our committment to undertake it once their orignal agreement has been settled.

yikes, i hope they do get out of that agreement. GW building would be perfect for that lot! crossing our fingers here!

What happens if GW does get the lot...

Investors might opt to wait for that instead of the 7th BTO... :lol: (Joke)
So I think it should be top secret if GW does get it...

Isa isa lang muna... LOL
Let's wait for the much awaited renderings of the 7th BTO...
This is one is sure one...

a deal this big will take time to finalize...I don't think it will be finalized within this year. The project will also be bigger in scale, and therefore have phases and possibly longer delivery periods, and later start dates. Even the costing for this has to be projected to factor in inflation at that time, to see if it will be worth it. Still a lot of work that needs to be done, and a certain direction in the market has to be there.

One thing I realized is that inflation will always be there...the saying: "death and taxes will always be there"...well, they should include inflation too!

We were just discussion the other day, that back in 2002, Penhurst was marketed at 3.9M for a 100 sqm unit. These days, that 3.9M will not get you anything like that unit anymore! Just watching the trend of BGC, and all over the world for that matter, I personally think that it is prudent to make real estate investments as early as the time that I can afford it already...any cash that is left idle in a savings, or time deposit bank account will slowly but surely lower in buying power.

Met with people who are involved, and it turns out they have already signed an agreement, that seemed quite unfair to the land owner. They now want to back out of it and discuss with us. Unfortunately, I am not sure if it is easy for them to do this...and we gave our committment to undertake it once their orignal agreement has been settled.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3264/bgcsingaporechancery002hj6.jpg



Thanks for the kind words...

There are currently 19 earnest deposits with checks for commercial units...there are only 9 on the ground floor, and only 3 facing the burgos park. I believe the ones in the Burgos park will be chosen first.

^^ Thank You Gibs for the updates! Hope things work out so that GW will get to build a project on the said lot. Btw does that lot on 23rd St. and 4th Ave actually extend all the way to 5th Ave.? If so a 5th Ave. facing commercial unit may perhaps be a viable alternative if GW gets to build on that lot since it does not look like any Burgos Park facing commercial units on your 7th BTO project will be left with 19 earnest deposits already in hand. Kindly keep us updated! Thanks again! :) :) :)

Btw here is what's currently brewing in 5th Ave. though I'm sure you're in the loop and up to date with the latest and greatest news in and around Fort Bonifacio...
Very exciting times for BGC! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Top guns bid for ‘primest’ of Boni
FOREIGN, LOCAL DEVELOPERS BUY T.O.R. AS B.C.D.A. RETREATS FROM ‘LEASE-ONLY’ OPTION
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/09062007/headlines01.html
By Max V. de Leon
Reporter

BIG foreign and local property developers are now crowding the bidding for a prime 1.2-hectare lot inside Fort Bonifacio in Taguig after the Bases Conversion and Development Authority (BCDA) reversed its earlier option to merely offer it for lease when it suffered a failed bidding last year.

Narciso Abaya, BCDA president and CEO, said Ayala Land Inc., SM Prime Holdings Inc., Megaworld Corp., Shangri-La Hotel, the Net-Trump Group, Landco Pacific and Robinsons Land have so far bought the P50,000 terms of reference (TOR) papers for the bidding of the property popularly known as the Expanded Big Delta Lots or the former Government Center for Investment at the Bonifacio Global City (BGC).

The lot was actually mortgaged with the Banco de Oro (BDO) because the BCDA needed a standby facility in case it needs additional funding for the construction of the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway.

That mortgage was the cause for the failure of bidding last year.

But so far, the BCDA has not needed yet to draw from the BDO standby loan, so it decided to open the lot either for sale or joint venture—and not merely for lease—making the property more attractive.

Abaya said a sale, joint venture or combination of the two will be allowed, provided the bidders will propose a solution to address the mortgage issue. “They can propose a substitute facility that will allow BCDA to transfer titles or they can propose to frontload the value of the property to pay off the mortgage.”

With the big developers swamping the bidding and with the real-estate market going up, the BCDA also decided to increase the minimum bid price to P160,000 per square meter from P150,000 per square meter.

“We are optimistic that the bidding will not only generate for BCDA revenues for conversion projects but more important, it will further maximize values of the whole Bonifacio Global City,” said Abaya.

The lot is the remaining parcel in the E-Square area since most of the properties there were already sold by the Fort Bonifacio Development Co. consortium to third-party buyers.

The 1.2-hectare prime lot has a floor area ratio (FAR) of 12, which means the proponent can develop on the area structures with a gross floor area of approximately 144,000 square meters or 14.4 hectares for mixed-used development of residential, office or commercial/retail complex.

The lot along 5th Avenue is also across The Fort and is the gateway of the city center, “the primest portion of the BGC.”

Since it is also within the E-Square area, which is accredited by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (Peza), the developers can avail themselves of government incentives if the project is qualified under Peza rules.

We were just discussion the other day, that back in 2002, Penhurst was marketed at 3.9M for a 100 sqm unit. These days, that 3.9M will not get you anything like that unit anymore! Just watching the trend of BGC, and all over the world for that matter, I personally think that it is prudent to make real estate investments as early as the time that I can afford it already...any cash that is left idle in a savings, or time deposit bank account will slowly but surely lower in buying power.

Wow!
+/- Double the value plus getting great rent (for those people that rent it out)

Congrats to those people who invested that early...

@Gibs

Rendering :cheer: :cheer: Rendering :cheer: :cheer: Rendering :cheer: :cheer: Pleeeeeaaaaase :speech:

G&W I think is the architect and builder of this BGC condo

Yes, we are the local architect for this project. No builder has yet been determined. This is a purely architectural projects for the developer called Hyopan Land. Will be visiting the model units in Korea this month!

eto ba yung location nung 7th BTO?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/STH70134.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/STH70133.jpg

Vlue Sapphire... :lol: :lol: :lol: Funny Girl!
(Unique Name - If ever... LOL)

VS Tower - before it was called Stay Tower

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=496103&page=6

G&W I think is the architect and builder of this BGC condo

i dont think so from the design, maybe they are the local architect which means they would do the construction drawings only but the design itself is from a foreighn architect.

eto ba yung location nung 7th BTO?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/STH70134.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c277/patok/FBGC/STH70133.jpg


Yes, this is the right location of the 7th BTO.

i dont think so from the design, maybe they are the local architect which means they would do the construction drawings only but the design itself is from a foreighn architect.

What makes you say that? Do you not think that any of our local firms can design a tower like VS Tower? I think Gibson himself confirmed they are the architect for VS Tower.

Hi Cynch, I sent you a PM.

What makes you say that? Do you not think that any of our local firms can design a tower like VS Tower? I think Gibson himself confirmed they are the architect for VS Tower.

Hello...Edmund is correct, we are the local architect for the project. In this specific case, we take on many different roles, but the concept of the building comes from the Korean architect. As of now, we are doing consulting for them, to make sure that they are within the DSG guidelines, and we will be the one to do all the detailed construction drawings to make the concept a reality.

With that said, I think local firms and Filipino Architects are one of the most capable professionals out there and are very capable and can easily make concepts like this. Keep in mind also that a lot of our architects (G&W architects) are always being pirated abroad, whenever we do a foreign project...come with the territory. I think this shows haw valueable our architects are to the foreigners.

The reason why we don't see more buildings like VS tower here in Manila? I think it is more on an "affordability of the end user" issue, rather than an architectrual talent issue.

Weather we like it or not, most high end projects here in the Philippines, i.e. projects that sell for over Php 105,000 per sqm will most likely lose money if sold within the next 5 years. The end users of these types of developments need to wait a lot longer before they can make a profit on the units and recover from the added transactional costs of a unit sale.

This is specifically the reason, that no matter how tempted we are to build a 40 storey, curtain wall, marble covered building, it is just not beneficial for the end user. Instead, we try to make the development cost more efficient through the build to own system, by removing excess fat so to speak, and deliver a Grade A building at price of a Grade B (60t/sqm to 70t/sqm) towers....unlike most developers who will deliver grade b towers at grade a prices.

It is always an architect's dream to have a tower that is iconic, and will be remebered by...this is what makes architects motivated...and we are happy to have the chance to work with foreign companies, to be a part of towers such as VS and Insular Life.

Originally Posted by portludlow
Top guns bid for ‘primest’ of Boni
FOREIGN, LOCAL DEVELOPERS BUY T.O.R. AS B.C.D.A. RETREATS FROM ‘LEASE-ONLY’ OPTION
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/090...adlines01.html
By Max V. de Leon
Reporter

With the big developers swamping the bidding and with the real-estate market going up, the BCDA also decided to increase the minimum bid price to P160,000 per square meter from P150,000 per square meter.

“We are optimistic that the bidding will not only generate for BCDA revenues for conversion projects but more important, it will further maximize values of the whole Bonifacio Global City,” said Abaya.

The lot is the remaining parcel in the E-Square area since most of the properties there were already sold by the Fort Bonifacio Development Co. consortium to third-party buyers.

The 1.2-hectare prime lot has a floor area ratio (FAR) of 12, which means the proponent can develop on the area structures with a gross floor area of approximately 144,000 square meters or 14.4 hectares for mixed-used development of residential, office or commercial/retail complex.

The lot along 5th Avenue is also across The Fort and is the gateway of the city center, “the primest portion of the BGC.”

Since it is also within the E-Square area, which is accredited by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (Peza), the developers can avail themselves of government incentives if the project is qualified under Peza rules.

OMG, the cost per sqm of these lots are really going up. With lot prices like this, it is not very hard to see end products are Php 120,000 per sqm range.

Maybe I should rethink what I said about having to wait 5 years or more to recover from purchases of units that are over Php 105,000 per sqm. :nuts:

OMG, the cost per sqm of these lots are really going up. With lot prices like this, it is not very hard to see end products are Php 120,000 per sqm range.

Maybe I should rethink what I said about having to wait 5 years or more to recover from purchases of units that are over Php 105,000 per sqm. :nuts:


you got that right i think... i've been told that when the high rise phase of One Serendra is launched in a month or two, the price will be in the vicinity of 125T per sqm + VAT :nuts:

Gibs, All the more I'm hoping GW gets that prime lot at 23rd St. and 4th Ave - it being so close to the "Primest Location in BGC..." which will have a starting bid of P160T/SQM according to this article! Grabe so expensive na! :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

SM Prime, ALI eye Bonifacio Global City
By MA. ELISA P. OSORIO, 6 Sep 2007
Source: The Philippine Star
http://www.smprime.com/News.php?BlurbID=758

SM Prime Holdings Inc. and Ayala Land Inc. has expressed interest in bidding for a government owned multi-billion prime lot in Bonifacio Global City.

At a minimum bid price of P160,000 per square meter, the lot with a gross floor area of approximately 144,000 square meters is worth more than P23 billion.

In a press conference, Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) president and chief executive officer Narciso Abaya said that aside from SM and Ayala Land, the Gokongweis through their property arm Robinsons Land and Megaworld have likewise expressed interest in joining the bidding.

Three international developers have also signified their intention to bid for the lot located in the expanded big delta in Fort Bonifacio.

These are Singapore-based Ascendas, American real estate mogul Donald Trump’s The Net-Trump Group and Hong Kong based Shangri-La Hotel. Because the lot is within the E-Square, an economic zone, the potential developer can avail of fiscal and non fiscal incentives given by the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA).

The former Government Center for Investment (GCI) is classified as mixed use meaning it can be a residential, office or commercial/retail complex. Abaya said the lot is at the “primest portion” of the Bonifacio Global City because it is along fifth avenue across the Fort and in the Gateway of City Center.

The lot is the only remaining available property in E-Square. Most of the lots have already been sold by the Fort Bonifacio Development Corporation to third party buyers.

The land was bidded out before but it failed since sale and transfer of titles were not allowed due to the mortgage on the lot.

However, Abaya assured that this time BCDA is allowing a sale or joint venture or a combination provided that bidders can address the mortgage issue.

This can mean that the bidder will propose a substitute facility that will allow BCDA to transfer titles or the bidders can opt to frontload the value of the property to pay off the mortgage.

“We are optimistic that the bidding will not only generate for BCDA revenues for conversion projects but more importantly it will further maximize values of the whole Bonifacio Global City,” Abaya said.

The Bonifacio Global City boasts of a central location that is a few minutes away from the Makati and Ortigas Central Business Districts, the airport and major thoroughfares like C-5.

It has world-class infrastructure that includes an underground drainage detention structure with the capacity to hold 22 million liters of water and release it under controlled conditions to prevent floods.

It also has a fiber optic cabling network to support a wide range of telephone, video and data applications.

Ditto OMG! And I thought it may go up to 150K per when I get delivery end of 2008! And it's already happening? Awesome!! BGC rocks! :cheers1:

Hello...Edmund is correct, we are the local architect for the project. In this specific case, we take on many different roles, but the concept of the building comes from the Korean architect. As of now, we are doing consulting for them, to make sure that they are within the DSG guidelines, and we will be the one to do all the detailed construction drawings to make the concept a reality.

With that said, I think local firms and Filipino Architects are one of the most capable professionals out there and are very capable and can easily make concepts like this. Keep in mind also that a lot of our architects (G&W architects) are always being pirated abroad, whenever we do a foreign project...come with the territory. I think this shows haw valueable our architects are to the foreigners.

The reason why we don't see more buildings like VS tower here in Manila? I think it is more on an "affordability of the end user" issue, rather than an architectrual talent issue.

Weather we like it or not, most high end projects here in the Philippines, i.e. projects that sell for over Php 105,000 per sqm will most likely lose money if sold within the next 5 years. The end users of these types of developments need to wait a lot longer before they can make a profit on the units and recover from the added transactional costs of a unit sale.

This is specifically the reason, that no matter how tempted we are to build a 40 storey, curtain wall, marble covered building, it is just not beneficial for the end user. Instead, we try to make the development cost more efficient through the build to own system, by removing excess fat so to speak, and deliver a Grade A building at price of a Grade B (60t/sqm to 70t/sqm) towers....unlike most developers who will deliver grade b towers at grade a prices.

It is always an architect's dream to have a tower that is iconic, and will be remebered by...this is what makes architects motivated...and we are happy to have the chance to work with foreign companies, to be a part of towers such as VS and Insular Life.

Thanks for that, Gibson. I am aware of the talent of Filipino architects, although it's sad they are somewhat held back by the local market. The reason why I phrased it as a question was a reaction from the way Edmundtanso's post which sounded as if he was implying that local architects are not capable of designing something like the VS Tower. I wanted to get a clarification of his comment, if how I interpreted his post is what he meant or if he meant something else.

I'm not expert about the Philippine market or anything (I actually know very little), but I have a feeling that the market will mature in the next 10 years and we will see more high end towers like the VS Tower, etc. It will be time for the Filipino architects to stretch their creative muscles.

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I am aware of the talent of Filipino architects, although it's sad they are somewhat held back by the local market. The reason why I phrased it as a question was a reaction from the way Edmundtanso's post which sounded as if he was implying that local architects are not capable of designing something like the VS Tower.

I agree with you 100% and I understood exactly your post as you have explained here...in fact, I too am looking for clarifiation on the implcation of that original post...did not sound right to me.

will this project somehow reach 200 meters? or beyond? spill some beans on us bro. :poke:

Hello...Edmund is correct, we are the local architect for the project. In this specific case, we take on many different roles, but the concept of the building comes from the Korean architect. As of now, we are doing consulting for them, to make sure that they are within the DSG guidelines, and we will be the one to do all the detailed construction drawings to make the concept a reality.

With that said, I think local firms and Filipino Architects are one of the most capable professionals out there and are very capable and can easily make concepts like this. Keep in mind also that a lot of our architects (G&W architects) are always being pirated abroad, whenever we do a foreign project...come with the territory. I think this shows haw valueable our architects are to the foreigners.

The reason why we don't see more buildings like VS tower here in Manila? I think it is more on an "affordability of the end user" issue, rather than an architectrual talent issue.

Weather we like it or not, most high end projects here in the Philippines, i.e. projects that sell for over Php 105,000 per sqm will most likely lose money if sold within the next 5 years. The end users of these types of developments need to wait a lot longer before they can make a profit on the units and recover from the added transactional costs of a unit sale.

This is specifically the reason, that no matter how tempted we are to build a 40 storey, curtain wall, marble covered building, it is just not beneficial for the end user. Instead, we try to make the development cost more efficient through the build to own system, by removing excess fat so to speak, and deliver a Grade A building at price of a Grade B (60t/sqm to 70t/sqm) towers....unlike most developers who will deliver grade b towers at grade a prices.

It is always an architect's dream to have a tower that is iconic, and will be remebered by...this is what makes architects motivated...and we are happy to have the chance to work with foreign companies, to be a part of towers such as VS and Insular Life.


Gibson, thanks for the clarification.

will this project somehow reach 200 meters? or beyond? spill some beans on us bro. :poke:

Haha, no its not going to reach 200 meters. It is based on an FAR 8 lot, that has 1,998 SQM in area.

The tower will be 28 storeys, with a nice (1,000 plus SQM) ammenity area on the 3rd floor of the building. It will also have a very small footprint of only 630 sqm representing only 31% of the lot area to ensure that the views will be maintained on KP and PP, while the views on the new tower will maximize the unique double corner lot. There will also be a new concept of wide front units, where windows, even on 1-BR units will occupy the widest portion of the unit. Unlike traditional buildings where one window, on the narrower side of the unit, is shared by both the living and the dining, the wide-front windows are wide enough to ensure that the living and dining will have indivual windows, even on the 1-BR unit.

The goal of the tower is to have a unit that is designed and built to the standards of the discerning market of BGC (people who have money and want something nice), and yet still be affordable enough (unit cost that are significantly lower than developers in the area) by virtue of being a B-T-O project.

We are very close in finalizing everything...I can't wait to reveal everything already!!! I am very excited with this project!

The 7th BTO will be named Crescent Park Residences.

28 storeys, 5 basement levels.

Moderator, kindly modify the title of this thread. Thank you!

^^ Sure. Kaso, parang kakasabi lang ni Gibs na "We are very close in finalizing everything...I can't wait to reveal everything already!!! I am very excited with this project!" eh inunahan mo na sya at nagreveal ka na ng details. :nuts: hehehe

official press secretary nang GW yang si cynch.. hehehe

^^ Eh ang tanong may basbas na ba ng GW ang announcement nya? :D

yes!! more info pls!!!

Cresent Park Residences has a nice ring to it :okay:

^^ Eh ang tanong may basbas na ba ng GW ang announcement nya? :D

Yes, of course.

Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but what are the other BTO projects, since this is the 7th?
Anyhow, waiting patiently for more info on this one.

1. Penhurst
2. Kensington
3. Grand Hamptons1
4. Grand Hamptons2
5. Sapphire Residences
6. Blue Sapphire
7. Crescent Park Residences

Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but what are the other BTO projects, since this is the 7th?
Anyhow, waiting patiently for more info on this one.

1. Penhurst
2. Kensington
3. Grand Hamptons1
4. Grand Hamptons2
5. Sapphire Residences
6. Blue Sapphire
7. Crescent Park Residences

Thanks! :)

Yes, of course.

Yup, I told Cynch about it yesterday! :) I can't keep it to myself any longer...

The plans are coming also...they are all being rendered na lang. The rendering of the building takes 2 days on the computer! haha! As of now, we have already begun the positioning of unit owners who have given pre-reservations and have specified units that they want priority over. The details are as follows:

1-BR: 48.82 sqm - 3.06m (Ready to Receive Finish) and 3.52m (Upgraded Finish)
2-BR: 81.20 sqm - 5.09m (RRF) and 5.86m (UF)
3-BR: 136.04 sqm - 9.74m (RRF) and 11.08 (UF)

@ Gibs

I didn't know where else to post this so please excuse me if I'm stretching it a bit by posting it here. Maybe the moderators can help me.

If I remember correctly, many have voiced optimism that ALI will try not to make the same mistakes they made in Makati with the development of BGC. I'm afraid I don't share this optimism.

I presume that in your position, you are in contact with the people directly concerned in developing BGC and that, perhaps, you could relay some of the concerns voiced in the different threads here in SSC.

I'm particularly concerned about the development of the parks within BGC. I always believe that a city needs to breath and parks are there specifically to provide breathing space for a city.

I see, however, that some parts of Crescent Park West are being turned into extended parking spaces. Must this be the case? Can't the developers of BGC think in terms of underground parking for the public? Shouldn't there be rules applied in how parks are developed?

This brings to memory of how Greenbelt Park used to look like in the 70's. It looked like a park. Now its' just a green patch among concrete shopping malls.

It would be interesting for me to know (I don't know how many BGCity-zens share my concern) which areas of BGC are officially designated as parks and what rules apply to their future development.

Thanks Gibs.

@ Gibs

I didn't know where else to post this so please excuse me if I'm stretching it a bit by posting it here. Maybe the moderators can help me.

If I remember correctly, many have voiced optimism that ALI will try not to make the same mistakes they made in Makati with the development of BGC. I'm afraid I don't share this optimism.

I presume that in your position, you are in contact with the people directly concerned in developing BGC and that, perhaps, you could relay some of the concerns voiced in the different threads here in SSC.

I'm particularly concerned about the development of the parks within BGC. I always believe that a city needs to breath and parks are there specifically to provide breathing space for a city.

I see, however, that some parts of Crescent Park West are being turned into extended parking spaces. Must this be the case? Can't the developers of BGC think in terms of underground parking for the public? Shouldn't there be rules applied in how parks are developed?

This brings to memory of how Greenbelt Park used to look like in the 70's. It looked like a park. Now its' just a green patch among concrete shopping malls.

It would be interesting for me to know (I don't know how many BGCity-zens share my concern) which areas of BGC are officially designated as parks and what rules apply to their future development.

Thanks Gibs.

Robert,
Based on Ayala Land's track record since the 60's, it's been their objective to correct any mistakes or improvements needed on future developments. But I did notice this apply only to the residential developments. Forbes Park/Dasmarinas/Urdaneta/Bel-Air/San Lorenzo (during the 60's/70's), problem was the water utility. However, when they developed Ayala Alabang, they addressed that issue. Water became the priority and so now Ayala Alabang has the best water system then. However, they did notice in Ayala Alabang, they had all the electrical posts and cables done the old way, it's all ugly and tacky. Therefore, in their next project, which was Ayala Westgrove ( and other numerous simultaneous developments by Ayala), they made sure to install the electrical system underground on top of a well improved water system.
But as far as commercial development is concerned...(that by itself is a different monster) I may have to agree with you. I missed the big open spaces in Makati during the late 60's/early 70's... Now, it's all driven by profits (well, that's why they are so successful). They will tear down any old structure e.g Rizal theatre Sulo Hotel, Alemars, Leasing (or Lissing, cant remember na) Commercial Center, etc. and easily replace it with Mega structures (Shangrila Hotel) Greenbelt all the way to GB5 and so forth, it's all for business sake. So if I were you... just keep on buying stocks of ALI and Ayala Corp instead...
btw, i'd be dammed if they tear down the Hotel Inter-Continental Makati. If I'm not mistaken it's the only original building left aside from Gilarmi apartments that are still left untouched. Rustan's well, it's changed quite a bit already. Basta, I hope you get my point. Sorry to butt in Gib's... this is just my take on this, based on my experience (which has a lot to do with age...hehehe).I'm no developer nor contractor, just a simple consumer. But I'm sure Gib's could put in his two cents worth too.
Thanks for the time ...
FBGCxxxx/greg

Robert,
Based on Ayala Land's track record since the 60's, it's been their objective to correct any mistakes or improvements needed on future developments. But I did notice this apply only to the residential developments. Forbes Park/Dasmarinas/Urdaneta/Bel-Air/San Lorenzo (during the 60's/70's), problem was the water utility. However, when they developed Ayala Alabang, they addressed that issue. Water became the priority and so now Ayala Alabang has the best water system then. However, they did notice in Ayala Alabang, they had all the electrical posts and cables done the old way, it's all ugly and tacky. Therefore, in their next project, which was Ayala Westgrove ( and other numerous simultaneous developments by Ayala), they made sure to install the electrical system underground on top of a well improved water system.
But as far as commercial development is concerned...(that by itself is a different monster) I may have to agree with you. I missed the big open spaces in Makati during the late 60's/early 70's... Now, it's all driven by profits (well, that's why they are so successful). They will tear down any old structure e.g Rizal theatre Sulo Hotel, Alemars, Leasing (or Lissing, cant remember na) Commercial Center, etc. and easily replace it with Mega structures (Shangrila Hotel) Greenbelt all the way to GB5 and so forth, it's all for business sake. So if I were you... just keep on buying stocks of ALI and Ayala Corp instead...
btw, i'd be dammed if they tear down the Hotel Inter-Continental Makati. If I'm not mistaken it's the only original building left aside from Gilarmi apartments that are still left untouched. Rustan's well, it's changed quite a bit already. Basta, I hope you get my point. Sorry to butt in Gib's... this is just my take on this, based on my experience (which has a lot to do with age...hehehe).I'm no developer nor contractor, just a simple consumer. But I'm sure Gib's could put in his two cents worth too.
Thanks for the time ...
FBGCxxxx/greg

Very sad missive, Greg. It's all about the bottom line - the other (sometimes ugly) green. I think if ALI et al, have a change of mind-set, i.e, develop sustainable and eco-friendly mega-communities, and BGC is a start, the attractiveness and profitability will be longer-lived, nay, it will perhaps be forever.

My heart and prayers go to a greener BGC, and ultimately, the homeland.

@ Gibs

I didn't know where else to post this so please excuse me if I'm stretching it a bit by posting it here. Maybe the moderators can help me.

If I remember correctly, many have voiced optimism that ALI will try not to make the same mistakes they made in Makati with the development of BGC. I'm afraid I don't share this optimism.

I presume that in your position, you are in contact with the people directly concerned in developing BGC and that, perhaps, you could relay some of the concerns voiced in the different threads here in SSC.

I'm particularly concerned about the development of the parks within BGC. I always believe that a city needs to breath and parks are there specifically to provide breathing space for a city.

I see, however, that some parts of Crescent Park West are being turned into extended parking spaces. Must this be the case? Can't the developers of BGC think in terms of underground parking for the public? Shouldn't there be rules applied in how parks are developed?

This brings to memory of how Greenbelt Park used to look like in the 70's. It looked like a park. Now its' just a green patch among concrete shopping malls.

It would be interesting for me to know (I don't know how many BGCity-zens share my concern) which areas of BGC are officially designated as parks and what rules apply to their future development.

Thanks Gibs.

As someone who has a very big stake in BGC, and also have a lot of client committments based on the committments of FBDC (Ayala), I am also very concerned about how the future development of the area will be...However, I have no doubt that these parks will remain as parks. The parking that is being allocated there is a temporary reaction to the fast pace of land selling in the area. If you had noticed, all the available parking slot in the crescent west district of BGC has now been bought by different companies (G&W included). The masterplan of the city will have specific parking buildings that will be used to service this need, however, I believe that because of the faster then expected sale of properties used as temporary parking, FBDC has resulted in a temporary solution, using Crescent Park as parking. There are reasons why I believe that they cannot keep it a permanent parking area...

1) BGC is a private property, much similar to a private subdivision in structure. All the TCT in the area has been annotated to have to abide by DSG rules. These rules, which is not present in most cities like Makati define the rules of how the land shall be used.

2) As a lot owner, our residents have the right to prompt the building manager to speak on their behalf to the Bonifacio Estate SErvices Corp, which is the propety manager of BGC to ensure that the rules are followed.

3) When we buy land from FBDC, we already had to pay our share for these parks...so essentially, they have already been sold to lot owners...so if we go to court for this (in the worst case) we will have a very strong case.

The only reason we have not made any complaints is simply because we know that this is temporary. When you look at the new city center plans, they have already outlined where the parking buildings will be.

The parking area of Crescent West District is the lot that is occupied by Autotechnika and Karport...when these lease of these properties expire, I have no doubt it will be turned to the parking building it needs to be....I just think they miscalculated when they will need this building.

If in the case they don't follow up with their committments...I will be the first, and urging all out unit owners to complain against BESC and FBDC...and I am sure all the other exisiting building here will support us.

But as far as commercial development is concerned...(that by itself is a different monster) I may have to agree with you. I missed the big open spaces in Makati during the late 60's/early 70's... Now, it's all driven by profits (well, that's why they are so successful). They will tear down any old structure e.g Rizal theatre Sulo Hotel, Alemars, Leasing (or Lissing, cant remember na) Commercial Center, etc. and easily replace it with Mega structures (Shangrila Hotel) Greenbelt all the way to GB5 and so forth, it's all for business sake. So if I were you... just keep on buying stocks of ALI and Ayala Corp instead...
btw, i'd be dammed if they tear down the Hotel Inter-Continental Makati. If I'm not mistaken it's the only original building left aside from Gilarmi apartments that are still left untouched. Rustan's well, it's changed quite a bit already. Basta, I hope you get my point. Sorry to butt in Gib's... this is just my take on this, based on my experience (which has a lot to do with age...hehehe).I'm no developer nor contractor, just a simple consumer. But I'm sure Gib's could put in his two cents worth too.
Thanks for the time ...
FBGCxxxx/greg

Hehe, anytime Greg, I love these boards because it is refreshingly honest!

I don't know about Intercon, but I know there are plans by the owners of Gilarmi to change the building that is there. It an under-built building (read: did not use the full allowance of the zoning rules)

I wouldn't blame everything on Ayala with the happenings in Makati...unlike BGC, Makati is still a public city, and Ayala is not in control of most of it. To some extent, that are also a victim, if another developer is allowed to build outside of the zoning rules. (But I also know that in one instance, ayala was found to have over-built a tower, resulting in another developer winning the case against them and was also allowed to build a bigger tower...I hope they learned form this mistake already)

While I do not agree with companies that will re-zone an already developed area for added profit (read: megaworld in Eastwood city), I also think that there are many underbuilt structures, which were initially placed in Makati to jump start the development in the area (please correct me if I am wrong but I was still too young to remember them: no pun intended Greg :)), and then after a number of years, will be torn down and re-built to more efficiently use the original zoning of the lot...these lots may often be mistaken as re-zoning for added profit.

In the early days, the market is not as vast as today, and most towers cannot sell everything if the actaul zoning is followed. When times are good, you'll often see comanies buying out an entire under-built tower in order for them to demolish and build something that will more efficiently use the full allowance of the zoning rules.

In BGC, the way I see it...people nowadays are a lot more sophisticated, and are very sensitive about zoning issues, that the only way that FBDC can continue to sell their properties at premium prices is if they make sure that the rules that are in place. Notice that most Ayala fund are now alloted to BGC...because they own more lots that they can sell to get the return on their investment.

at least this is my .02 cents on this matter....

But, also a quick note on this...FBDC is very strict about the FAR rules...you can buy extra FAR, but limited to 25% of your current FAR only. The FAR you buy must come from another lot that is willing to sell and lower the FAR. So for example, I own an FAR 9 lot, I can only increase it to a max of 11.25FAR (25% more than the original). I have to buy this from a land owner who has extra FAR that is willing to sell, and their ending FAR cannot be less than 8. So a land owner with FAR 8 is not a seller...while someone with FAR 12 lot can sell me the extra 2.25 FAR I need.

I very powerful political figure has been forcing FBDC, using the local government to increase a lots FAR exceedign these rules...needless to say, they did not agree to do this.

Here are some pre-brochure plans of Crescent Park Residences...

Below is the 1-BR plan with Wide-Front windows...notice how the living and Dining area each have their own window...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO71br-B.jpg

Same wide-front concept on the 2-BR...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO72br-A.jpg

Our architect has the rendering of the exterior of the building...but is so worried about posting it here, he wants to make sure it is perfect and is still adding more details to it! :)

Yup, I told Cynch about it yesterday! :) I can't keep it to myself any longer...

The plans are coming also...they are all being rendered na lang. The rendering of the building takes 2 days on the computer! haha! As of now, we have already begun the positioning of unit owners who have given pre-reservations and have specified units that they want priority over. The details are as follows:

1-BR: 48.82 sqm - 3.06m (Ready to Receive Finish) and 3.52m (Upgraded Finish)
2-BR: 81.20 sqm - 5.09m (RRF) and 5.86m (UF)
3-BR: 136.04 sqm - 9.74m (RRF) and 11.08 (UF)


does "ready to receive finish" mean "bare?" ....no floor tiles, no wall and ceiling paints, etc?

3-BR:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO73br-A.jpg

Typical Floor Plan:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO7Plan-5thto24thFloor.jpg

I attended one of the briefings of Ayala Land and one of their corporate objectives is to put more focus in their Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) programs. Specifically, this includes focus on the preservation of the environment and minimizing the effects of global warming.

Right now, whenever a project is launched by the company, all these factors are considered. So they are more conscious now with regard to parks, open spaces, the use of natural resources (and that includes water), etc. Even their mall development, office & residential developments, will consider the proper use of energy (ie, conservation of energy - use of light and aircon). Recycling of water resources are also being considered (read: Using "recyled water" to water all these plants and trees at BGC instead of using water which costs Php 63/cubic meter!)

Ayala Land has good plans for BGC - and it is not just limited to designating areas for parks. It goes beyond that. I'm not worried about BGC. In fact, I'm very optimistic that it will be one of the "green cities" in the Phils.

Here are some pre-brochure plans of Crescent Park Residences...

Below is the 1-BR plan with Wide-Front windows...notice how the living and Dining area each have their own window...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO71br-B.jpg

Gibson...

Congrats on another AWESOME/INNOVATIVE floor plan! :banana:

WOW!
Even the 1-Bedroom has so much window area...
It looks as if its a VIP room. I can't imagine how much natural light this room will get.
And to think I was already jealous of the Sapphire floor plan now I'm 2x jealous of the lucky future owners of this project... :lol:
(But I'm more than happy/content with my GH2 units)

I can't wait to see the renderings. It looks like its really worth the wait!

That's what I like about G&W projects they get better and better.
And that is a tough thing to do because the bar has been set really high with the Penhurst, Kensington, Grand Hamptons 1/2 and Sapphire towers.

Here are some pre-brochure plans of Crescent Park Residences...

Below is the 1-BR plan with Wide-Front windows...notice how the living and Dining area each have their own window...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO71br-B.jpg




wow!!!. i like it.
prospective 1-bedroom unit owner here. :banana:

Gibs.. mga kailan turn over nito?

My choice units are Units B (1BR) and A (2BR) at the corner of 2nd Ave and Burgos Park facing the SE direction.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO7Plan-5thto24thFloor.jpg
By the way @Gibs, glad to see the compass and the streets labeled on the floor plans. Hope these will appear in your brochures as well. :)

@Gibs:

Can I present my 3D Architectural/ Interior Design Visualization & Walkthrough/ Fly-by Reels to you? If you have time, please visit my personal portfolio website at http://stephenpdavid.multiply.com.

Hope to hear from you soon, Gibs.

Many thanks!

Yup, I told Cynch about it yesterday! :) I can't keep it to myself any longer...

The plans are coming also...they are all being rendered na lang. The rendering of the building takes 2 days on the computer! haha! As of now, we have already begun the positioning of unit owners who have given pre-reservations and have specified units that they want priority over. The details are as follows:

1-BR: 48.82 sqm - 3.06m (Ready to Receive Finish) and 3.52m (Upgraded Finish)
2-BR: 81.20 sqm - 5.09m (RRF) and 5.86m (UF)
3-BR: 136.04 sqm - 9.74m (RRF) and 11.08 (UF)

Nice. Who do I contact here for some more info on the units, payments etc?

Nice. Who do I contact here for some more info on the units, payments etc?

Realtor Manila (aka Cynch) is the best. She's here in this forum.

Thanks to Greg, Gibs and Cynch for your insights. I have to admit that I have a "wait-and-see" attitude. I hope that the future development of BGC does indeed go the way you think ALI has envisioned.

Having lived in Europe for so long, I've become very sensitive to what we do with our environment. I just think we haven't done enough where it concerns the Philippines. I may be simplifying things here but it's the small things that count. Just to give an example. To cut a tree, which stands on your own property here in Germany, one needs to get a permit to do so and present convincing reasons why it has to be done.

There are color coded recycling bins all over the city where garbage is sorted out by residents according to plastic, glass, paper, etc. Special garbage depots receive special garbage like used computers, old furniture, broken TVs, etc. Supermarkets have small bins for used batteries. I can name more examples but I think you're getting to see what I mean.

If BGC is to be the leading "green" metropolis in Metro Manila, ALI can start by adopting some of these "small" ideas from other countries. I'm aware that government involvement is crucial (i.e. recycling plants). The private sector can't do everything on its own.

Let's start by keeping the parks as parks. Provide garbage receptacles along sidewalks as well as in parks. Plant more trees that provide us with oxygen.

I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best for BGC.

Go, go G&W! :banana:

The 3BR is huge!

Nice. Who do I contact here for some more info on the units, payments etc?

I sent you a PM.

Here are some pre-brochure plans of Crescent Park Residences...

Below is the 1-BR plan with Wide-Front windows...notice how the living and Dining area each have their own window...

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO71br-B.jpg

^^ Congrats to GW on this new project and looking forward to the renderings! Just curious, if there are available floor plans for combined B&C units as well as F&G units. Many Thanks. :) :) :)

aba aba.. sold out na daw ang unit B for 1 bedroom tsaka Unit A for 3 bedrooms! ka bilis naman

My choice units are Units B (1BR) and A (2BR) at the corner of 2nd Ave and Burgos Park facing the SE direction.

aba aba.. sold out na daw ang unit B for 1 bedroom tsaka Unit A for 3 bedrooms! ka bilis naman

:cry:

Renderings pleeeeaaaasssseeee!!!!

wala pa bang model units na makikita?

Renderings pleeeeaaaasssseeee!!!!

wala pa bang model units na makikita?

I answered your PM. Thank you!

The current model unit, a 2-BR, is for The Blue Sapphire Residences (sold out).

The lay-outs of the units have really improved. Honestly, if ever G&W will build a model unit for Crescent Park Residences (CPR), everything will be sold out already! Promise!

I answered your PM. Thank you!

The current model unit, a 2-BR, is for The Blue Sapphire Residences (sold out).

The lay-outs of the units have really improved. Honestly, if ever G&W will build a model unit for Crescent Park Residences (CPR), everything will be sold out already! Promise!

:ohno: :ohno: Bakit ang lupit ng buhay ? :ohno: :ohno:

wow this is sold out already.

wow this is sold out already.

Nope, not yet. Read Cynch's post again. :)

Gibs, I'll post these renderings na.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/View1-BTO7Perspective_final.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/View2-BTO7Perspective_final.jpg

Very nice! Great, clean design.

Edit: I love the podium design, but will there be units there? Amenities or parking?

i wish they were much taller...atleast twice....

Gibs, I'll post these renderings na.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/View1-BTO7Perspective_final.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/BGC-2007/View2-BTO7Perspective_final.jpg

Impressive.
any renderings for the entrance facade and the lobby?

I answered your PM. Thank you!

The current model unit, a 2-BR, is for The Blue Sapphire Residences (sold out).

The lay-outs of the units have really improved. Honestly, if ever G&W will build a model unit for Crescent Park Residences (CPR), everything will be sold out already! Promise!


thanks for the reply.

if ever the units (say 60% or 70%) are sold in no time, does that mean actual construction will start early? if so, turnover will be on the first quarter of 2010?

Gibs, Cynch, Greg, et al:

This is the mind-set I've been hoping for...
Wouldn't it be nice if the first green high-rise in the Phlippines would be built in FBGC such that it can get LEED certification - built with integrated recycling system, solar-cell wall panels, fuel-cells, utilizing wind energy for power? Highly unlikely? OK, gez I'm shooting for the stars.

I also like the Avant with cantilevered gardens concept (if they do do it). There is a new trend of interspersing greenscapes and atriums in verticals; some even have greenery coverings throughout the whole buildings (wish I had saved the links).

I have been reading a lot about the country and the on-going over-all improvements. With developers and folks like you who are sensitive to the livability and lovability of a neighborhood like BGCity, it shows hope and promise for a better future. :)

Re: Crescent Park; I like the floor plans a lot. The large windows and their locations give cross-ventilation. I would, if I could, plunk my 'hard-earneds' outright had I some available and liquid funds, Gibs. 2009, perhaps? Then timing would be perfect! :lol:

Kudos to you and your company!:applause:

Gibs.. mga kailan turn over nito?

Sorry for the late reply, had trouble logging on to SSC...plus its been quite a hectic week.

The turnover will be end of the 2nd quarter of 2010 (June 2010).

does "ready to receive finish" mean "bare?" ....no floor tiles, no wall and ceiling paints, etc?

Ready to Receive finish is somewhere in between "Finished" and "Bare"

All the Walls are there already, including all the light switches, electrical outlets, cable outlets, telephone outlets. The unit comes with all everything, but the cosmetic finishes. There will be no need to erect walls, or do electrical wiring, or do plumbing work...they are all provided for...all you need are the cosmetic portion of the unit...such as the paint on the wall, the type of flooring, cabinets and fixtures in the bathroom.

This option is really to give unit owners who would like to design their unit to take into consideration their preferences, an efficient way to do so.

We offer 2 options:

Ready To Receive Finish - as described above, and
Upgrade Finish - which is a "Finished" unit, with certain things upgrade compared to industry standards. All bathrooms come with Frameless Glass shower enclosure, Kitchne comes with Modular Kitchen Cabinets, Grantie countertop is standard, and many little details more.

But no matter how well you finish the units, you cannot satisfy 100% of the unit owners because it does not have their personal preferences taken into consideration...that is why our interior designers have work...even on the most expensive condos out there.

The ready to receive option is an option that allows you to have the unit, without the finishes that you would otherwise replace with something else...and as a result Php 9,500 per sqm is deducted from your unit cost. This amount can be used by the unit owner to do their preferred finishing.

@Gibs:

Can I present my 3D Architectural/ Interior Design Visualization & Walkthrough/ Fly-by Reels to you? If you have time, please visit my personal portfolio website at http://stephenpdavid.multiply.com.

Hope to hear from you soon, Gibs.

Many thanks!

Hello, my brother who is the architect is very interested with your work...please e-mail him daniel@gw-architects.com

He reads the blogs here and gets his feedback here too, but he is shy to post a reply...hehe! We will be in Korea to visit the VS Tower people early this week...so we might be a little delayed in replying.

^^ Congrats to GW on this new project and looking forward to the renderings! Just curious, if there are available floor plans for combined B&C units as well as F&G units. Many Thanks. :) :) :)

These floor plans will follow shortly...we have already committed to clients who have have opted to get a combined unit, instead of the 3-BR on 25th to 28th.

It will be similar but not exactly the same as the standard 3-BR...

Very nice! Great, clean design.

Edit: I love the podium design, but will there be units there? Amenities or parking?

There will be 4 units (instead of the normal 8 units per floor from 5th to the 24th) on the 3rd flooor together with the ammenity floors.

thanks for the reply.

if ever the units (say 60% or 70%) are sold in no time, does that mean actual construction will start early? if so, turnover will be on the first quarter of 2010?

Yes, if the units are significantly sold out earlier, it is possible to advance the construction timeframe.

Although, in the current schedule we have only allotted 6 months to market all the units, and construction is scheduled to start at the end of March, 2008.

Thank you everyone for the positive feedback...:) We are glad that SSC members approve of it! My personal favorite is the rendering from the Burgos Park side...it shows the infinity pool that is at the edge of the building where it is facing the burgos park :)

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO7_Perspective_View_2.jpg

Gibs, Cynch, Greg, et al:

This is the mind-set I've been hoping for...
Wouldn't it be nice if the first green high-rise in the Phlippines would be built in FBGC such that it can get LEED certification - built with integrated recycling system, solar-cell wall panels, fuel-cells, utilizing wind energy for power? Highly unlikely? OK, gez I'm shooting for the stars.

I also like the Avant with cantilevered gardens concept (if they do do it). There is a new trend of interspersing greenscapes and atriums in verticals; some even have greenery coverings throughout the whole buildings (wish I had saved the links).

I have been reading a lot about the country and the on-going over-all improvements. With developers and folks like you who are sensitive to the livability and lovability of a neighborhood like BGCity, it shows hope and promise for a better future. :)

Re: Crescent Park; I like the floor plans a lot. The large windows and their locations give cross-ventilation. I would, if I could, plunk my 'hard-earneds' outright had I some available and liquid funds, Gibs. 2009, perhaps? Then timing would be perfect! :lol:

Kudos to you and your company!:applause:

Thank you for the kind words...We are very pleased that you are happy with the design of the building. :)

I agree that somehow we should be moving to be more environmentally responsible. Weather has changed drastically all over the world, even here in Manila, some weather experts say that the rainy season has moved to October to January...instead of the July to September. Seems very scarry to me that the changes occur this drastically!

However, the reality of the matter is that things should also be financially feasible (or close to it) before it can be widely and quickly implemented. I think that if something were not close to it, it will be very hard to get peopel to adopt it. Solar panels for example have been here for ages...got popular with calculators, but not popular for building use...the panels are just too expensive, hard to maintain and does not produce enough power to be useable.

It would be really nice to have a building that is green. With the ever increasing pollution issue all over the world present, and considering what the situation is in the Philippines, I do think that residential condos are not the major contributor to pollution...I think it is manily factories, transportation and good old basura burning! With the MRT in place, I really do not understand what the buses in EDSA that are clearly the worst smoke belchers out there still manage to get a license to operate. The should increase the MRT trains, and decrease the bus as a big first step.

I think that Hybrid cars, are a financially feasible solution that helps the environment, and I will be the first one to buy if they came out with a hybrid honda civic here in the Philippine...I'll even fix it up to make it have a "cool" image! Being stuck in traffic is the worst way to pollute an area...gas consumption goes up 400% when you are stuck in traffic...now imagine being essentially "off" in a hybrid car with zero fuel consumption while being stuck in EDSA...that to me is a very good way to save the environment...and they say that it is even more financially feasible if not profitable, for a taxi driver to use a hybrid car!

Well, I am way OT here, but I agree with a lot of what is said here about the environment, and I think something should be done.

Oh before I forget, one thing I rembered...there was a company that was presenting to us a new technology that they had...not yet implemented in the Philippines anywhere...LPG powered AirCon system...and for the kicker, its by product is hot water!

Well, the catch is the start up price...and the fact that the entire building will have to be centralized, and the billing would be centralize also, instead of individual...and of course, if it fails, everyone in the building will have no A/C and hot water!

The idea is great, will save money and will help the environment, but it will take a little bit more developing before we can implement it in units.

Thanks to Greg, Gibs and Cynch for your insights. I have to admit that I have a "wait-and-see" attitude. I hope that the future development of BGC does indeed go the way you think ALI has envisioned.

Having lived in Europe for so long, I've become very sensitive to what we do with our environment. I just think we haven't done enough where it concerns the Philippines. I may be simplifying things here but it's the small things that count. Just to give an example. To cut a tree, which stands on your own property here in Germany, one needs to get a permit to do so and present convincing reasons why it has to be done.

There are color coded recycling bins all over the city where garbage is sorted out by residents according to plastic, glass, paper, etc. Special garbage depots receive special garbage like used computers, old furniture, broken TVs, etc. Supermarkets have small bins for used batteries. I can name more examples but I think you're getting to see what I mean.

If BGC is to be the leading "green" metropolis in Metro Manila, ALI can start by adopting some of these "small" ideas from other countries. I'm aware that government involvement is crucial (i.e. recycling plants). The private sector can't do everything on its own.

Let's start by keeping the parks as parks. Provide garbage receptacles along sidewalks as well as in parks. Plant more trees that provide us with oxygen.

I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best for BGC.

I have to say I do understand your "wait and see" take on things...many of the things said here does not only involve BGC, but also the rest of the philippines...

For example, for a recycling system to work, it should not only be separated by the unit owners, and collected separately, but there should also really be a system where is is handled separately. Most trash from BGC is taken out of BGC and put in a dump site somewhere, but I doubt that they have a separation of trash system there...meaning if we probably separate all our trash in Penhurst for example, the grabage collector will probably mix them back again on the dump site.:ohno: I hope I am wrong about this, but I think this is the case...

Now to go a bit OT...

Well, a good family friend of ours whom we had dinner with a few nights ago was mentioning how the Philippine environment was really bad, and he said that he has taken a proactive step a long time ago, to start planting trees. He planted tree all over his subdivision...and the good thing in the Philippines was that no one stopped him (as I am sure in other more developed countries, you cannot just plant a tree anytime, anywhere you please). He was really passionate about planting trees, and he is now a developer of low cost houses and he makes it a point to plant trees everywhere in his subdivisions. He even went to justify it by saying that if you plant a tree now, when it grows up in a few years, if you would like it, you can sell it for a profit! but he continues to say that if you were the one who planted it, you would not want to cut it down!

Anyway, his passion was very inspiring...and really dawned on me, that taking care of the environment is an act, not just of a developer, but every single individual...now to get everyone on this page is another thing.

I think that being in a condo, where announcements are regularly posted everywhere, and rules are being made, and unit owners actually have to follow them is a good place to start...it is very easy to reach out to unit owners that way, and your idea can be announced to hundreds of people at a time.

Also, I remember a program just this year that BGC had, which was "sell your trash" or something to that effect...it is basically a sponsored event where you can bring your trash (like old computers, old magazines...) and they would have recycliing companies out there to buy your trash from you.

so there is still hope...:banana:

Ready to Receive finish is somewhere in between "Finished" and "Bare"

All the Walls are there already, including all the light switches, electrical outlets, cable outlets, telephone outlets. The unit comes with all everything, but the cosmetic finishes. There will be no need to erect walls, or do electrical wiring, or do plumbing work...they are all provided for...all you need are the cosmetic portion of the unit...such as the paint on the wall, the type of flooring, cabinets and fixtures in the bathroom.

This option is really to give unit owners who would like to design their unit to take into consideration their preferences, an efficient way to do so.

We offer 2 options:

Ready To Receive Finish - as described above, and
Upgrade Finish - which is a "Finished" unit, with certain things upgrade compared to industry standards. All bathrooms come with Frameless Glass shower enclosure, Kitchne comes with Modular Kitchen Cabinets, Grantie countertop is standard, and many little details more.

But no matter how well you finish the units, you cannot satisfy 100% of the unit owners because it does not have their personal preferences taken into consideration...that is why our interior designers have work...even on the most expensive condos out there.

The ready to receive option is an option that allows you to have the unit, without the finishes that you would otherwise replace with something else...and as a result Php 9,500 per sqm is deducted from your unit cost. This amount can be used by the unit owner to do their preferred finishing.

in short, the upgrade-finish is the same as the model unit without the furniture and appliances.

when do we get to see the model units?

parang i like the looks of blue sapphire and sapphire better.

Elegant! I like it! :okay:

galing talaga ng G&W! :okay:

This video is for all the investors of G&W BTO Projects... :lol:

EfYSwHLJhd8
Why buy a (BTO) Build-To-Own Project at Bonifacio Global City? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYSwHLJhd8)

Hope there will be an 8th, 9th... ^^

Gibson...

Congrats on another AWESOME/INNOVATIVE floor plan! :banana:

WOW! ....


That's what I like about G&W projects they get better and better.
And that is a tough thing to do because the bar has been set really high with the Penhurst, Kensington, Grand Hamptons 1/2 and Sapphire towers.

so you mean aside from exterior design, future unit owners of this project can expect better-looking interior of their units, grander lobby, and even more superior ammenities?

Gibs, expectations become exceedingly high :)
i wonder how the 8th wld look like? :happy:

wow the tower is very elegant.

so you mean aside from exterior design, future unit owners of this project can expect better-looking interior of their units, grander lobby, and even more superior ammenities?

Gibs, expectations become exceedingly high :)
i wonder how the 8th wld look like? :happy:

Pretty much that's it... It gets better and better especially the floor plan...
Ammenities is nice but honestly i don't know how much people will use the pool, gym or the function room...
Its nice accesories to the building... especailly when you are re-selling...:lol:

They have their work cut out for them cause the floor plan of this 7th BTO is really good!

Thank you everyone for the positive feedback...:) We are glad that SSC members approve of it! My personal favorite is the rendering from the Burgos Park side...it shows the infinity pool that is at the edge of the building where it is facing the burgos park :)

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/gibsonyu/BTO7_Perspective_View_2.jpg

Nice! How much are the commercial units facing the circle?

wow.. ang ganda!....:D

Magkasabay pala ang construction ng Crescent Park Residences and The Fort Residences.
Both facing Burgos Circle.
Same location.
Same area of lots, similar in shape.
Side-by- side.



Wow, pretty exciting to know which is which. :banana: :banana:



http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/bevepi/TFRsite.jpg

The Fort Residences on the left. Crescent Park Residences on the right.

in short, the upgrade-finish is the same as the model unit without the furniture and appliances.

when do we get to see the model units?

Actually, we changed the name to "Upgraded Finish", instead of "model unit finish" because we wanted more freedom in making the model unit...we want the model unit to also serve as a basis of idea for people who opt for the Ready to Receive finish.

The Upgrade finish will use the same materials as the "Model Unit Finish" but we are not calling it that way, because the new model unit will have different finishes and it might be misleading to name it that way.

We will also have an area with samples of the Upgraded Finish displayed for disclosure purposes.

This video is for all the investors of G&W BTO Projects... :lol:

EfYSwHLJhd8
Why buy a (BTO) Build-To-Own Project at Bonifacio Global City? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYSwHLJhd8)

Hope there will be an 8th, 9th... ^^

WOW!!! What a great video! Thank you! :banana: :banana: :banana:

Sabay pala ang construction ng Crescent Park Residences and The Fort Residences.
Both facing Burgos Circle.
Same location.
Same area of lots, similar in shape.
Side-by- side.



Wow, pretty exciting to know which is which. :banana: :banana:



http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f94/bevepi/TFRsite.jpg

The Fort Residences on the left. Crescent Park Residences on the right.

yup, exciting ang area na ito since almost mapupuno na sya. sana malapit na rin ilagay ang strip of restos ng forbeswood!

meron na po ba ditong unit owner ng crescent park residences?

which view (side) will be obstructed by other buildings, which side faces Manila Golf or is that view blocked? trying to visualize

which view (side) will be obstructed by other buildings, which side faces Manila Golf or is that view blocked? trying to visualize

i think they've discussed this in the last few pages, stating which units are desirable... :cheers:

Nice! How much are the commercial units facing the circle?

And to where do the rentals from those commercial spaces go?
Pwede ba yun na lang ang gamitin sa maintenance instead of collecting association dues? :bash:

usually, commercial spaces in the condo are not owned by the unit owners or by the condo corp.. it's owned by the developer, i just don't know dito sa BTO system.

And to where do the rentals from those commercial spaces go?
Pwede ba yun na lang ang gamitin sa maintenance instead of collecting association dues? :bash:

And to where do the rentals from those commercial spaces go?
Pwede ba yun na lang ang gamitin sa maintenance instead of collecting association dues? :bash:

The commercial units are also owned by other unit owners :)

Gibs, the "wild" response in your 7th is unbelievable.

please show us the rendering for the main entrance, the lobby, and the model unit.

never mind the parking area. :laugh:

usually, commercial spaces in the condo are not owned by the unit owners or by the condo corp.. it's owned by the developer, i just don't know dito sa BTO system.

commercial spaces in century projects are sold to unit owners too.

3 bedrooms..........................SOLD OUT!
2 bedrooms (A and H).............SOLD OUT!
1 bedroom (B and C)............. SOLD OUT!

in two weeks?! :nuts:

aba, umpisahan na !!! :)

pansin ko lang, dami nagpopost na unit owners ng G&W projects.
grabe ang following.
wala yatang investor na disappointed sa projects nyo?
****-explain nga Gibs.

4 threads ng G&W projects laging nasa first 10 ng 'metro manila projects on the rise'
nasa top 5 ngayon as of 2:17pm

^^ GW does deliver on their promise (and then some) everytime which is why in turn there are no disappointments and thus very loyal following!!! Galing-galing!!!! :okay: :okay:

^^ habang hindi pa nag popost ng reply si Gibs, ako muna ang magpopost ng reasons ko why I am not disappointed with GW.

The most impt thing to me, besides the product itself, is customer service -- and GW is really exemplary in that aspect! Magtataka ka nga dahil mas approachable pa yung mga "powers-that-be" sa GW kesa sa sales team (understandable siguro dahil always on the go ang sales team). I especially love Nems Lagrana (VP) and of course, hindi na kailangang i-explain ang pagiging customer service-oriented ni Gibson. Even Cynch (realtor_manila) who is not a GW employee, but is remotely affiliated with them, provides exceptional customer service. All my questions are being answered and they try to accomodate reasonable requests. Before I discovered SSC, I get updates from Nems herself (not "her people" ha, from her talaga!) Kaya ayun, almost assured na repeat customers ang mga clients nila. I can say now na my next investment in Manila will be with them too!

So, at the risk of being accused as a cheerleader for endorsing GW, I really would like to make it official that I really endorse this firm. Winner talaga sila, promise!

Yun lang, bow.

^^ I second that. When Vic (gasrock) and I visited Manila last summer, Nems and Gibs took some valuable time to answer our questions and even toured us around Kensington. They really take care of their customers. No disappointments at all!

Full shot 30th Street and 2nd Ave:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/CrescentParkView1.png

Street level 30th Street (Lobby Entrance):

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/Viewfrom30thStreet.png

Full shot 2nd Ave and Burgos Circle:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/CrescentParkView2.png

Street level 2nd Ave:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/Viewfrom2ndAve.png

Infinity pool on the 3/F:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/InfinityPool2.gif

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/InfinityPool.gif

^^ habang hindi pa nag popost ng reply si Gibs, ako muna ang magpopost ng reasons ko why I am not disappointed with GW.

The most impt thing to me, besides the product itself, is customer service -- and GW is really exemplary in that aspect! Magtataka ka nga dahil mas approachable pa yung mga "powers-that-be" sa GW kesa sa sales team (understandable siguro dahil always on the go ang sales team). I especially love Nems Lagrana (VP) and of course, hindi na kailangang i-explain ang pagiging customer service-oriented ni Gibson. Even Cynch (realtor_manila) who is not a GW employee, but is remotely affiliated with them, provides exceptional customer service. All my questions are being answered and they try to accomodate reasonable requests. Before I discovered SSC, I get updates from Nems herself (not "her people" ha, from her talaga!) Kaya ayun, almost assured na repeat customers ang mga clients nila. I can say now na my next investment in Manila will be with them too!

So, at the risk of being accused as a cheerleader for endorsing GW, I really would like to make it official that I really endorse this firm. Winner talaga sila, promise!

Yun lang, bow.

hmmmm, shufatid, kasama ka ba sa payroll ng G&W? :lol:

ganda ng infinity pool :banana: , me glass kaya sa gilid yan? baka sumama ako sa alon magtuloy-tuloy akong bumagsak sa burgos park half-naked :bash:

excited with this project. wala ba ko commission pag nagrefer ng customer?

usually meron ha, minimal nga lang. something like 1% of the contract price.

really nice project. question, bale na-occupy yung buong lot ng podium? am i right? ganda talaga gumawa g&w! congrats to unit owners, and future unit owners.

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/CPR-02.jpg

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/CPR-01.jpg

I heard 65% units sold in 1st 6 days of Pre-Selling... Smokin Hot!!! :applause:

H, A, B, C - All SOLD OUT

wow, nice work rick!

Crescent Park Residences seems like a hybrid of The Grand Hamptons and The Sapphire/Blue Sapphire. Glassy, clean lines, very modern. One word to summarize it : BEAUTIFUL!

Sobrang ganda talaga! (Hindi ko na talaga napigilan. I go crazy over condos -really crazy!)

Infinity pool on the 3/F:

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/InfinityPool2.gif

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g227/tcc_0888/Crescent%20Park/InfinityPool.gif

I agree!

This infinity pool really looks awesome.
Lucky naman youn owner ng units As and Bs from 4th to 6th floors...
May infinity pool view na may panoramic view of the Bellagio Towers, Forbeswoods Heights and The Fort Residences around the Burgos park...

Crescent Park Residences seems like a hybrid of The Grand Hamptons and The Sapphire/Blue Sapphire. Glassy, clean lines, very modern. One word to summarize it : BEAUTIFUL!

Sobrang ganda talaga! (Hindi ko na talaga napigilan. I go crazy over condos -really crazy!)

meron condo na glassy as in all glass, parang hindi kita yung aluminum frames. maybe dark ang kulay ng frames. maganda kaya yun sa crescent park?

sinusunod ba ang lahat ng detalye sa rendering? like color of glass, overall exterior color, several palm trees by the pool,etc?

am crazy over the infinity pool. kita from the forbes town center. series of spotlights at night will make it a prominent attraction. cgurado every night dun lang ako nakatingin while enjoying caffè latte at starbucks beside bellagio.

sinusunod ba ang lahat ng detalye sa rendering? like color of glass, overall exterior color, several palm trees by the pool,etc?



For Kensington --the actual condo building followed the rendering. In fact, the actual condo builiding is better looking pa.

The Grand Hamptons --- same comment as above.

Congratulations G&W on the 65% of units sold in 6 days! I might be able to invest by the time the 11th BTO tower is announced. :D

I just noticed...

Crescent Park Residences = CPR... :uh: :rofl: :lol:

^^^^Ha ha hahaha Ako naman unang pumasok sa isip ko nung pinangalanganan itong Crescent ay RED CRESCENT. :)

Hi Gibs,

I noticed that the price increase from Grand Hamptons to Blue Sapphire is only 3%. Pero from Blue Sapphire to Crescent Park, it is a 20% difference. For example, a 48 sqm studio in Sapphire is 2.55M. Sa Crescent Park, it is 3M. Why a big jump?

Mas maganda ba ang finishes sa Crescent Park? Bigger lobby?

Also, G&W price for finished units in Crescent Park comes out to 73,000 per sqm. Sa Robinsons Land (Fort Residences, Fifth Avenue Place) and Megaworld, it is 85,000 per sqm. G&W is still cheaper but only 15% cheaper na lang instead of 40%.

I am asking because I am trying also to convince my other friends to buy also and these are questions that could come up. I hope you don't mind my asking.

Anyway, happy pa rin ako with my units! Thanks.

Hi Gibs,

I noticed that the price increase from Grand Hamptons to Blue Sapphire is only 3%. Pero from Blue Sapphire to Crescent Park, it is a 20% difference. For example, a 48 sqm studio in Sapphire is 2.55M. Sa Crescent Park, it is 3M. Why a big jump?

Mas maganda ba ang finishes sa Crescent Park? Bigger lobby?

Also, G&W price for finished units in Crescent Park comes out to 73,000 per sqm. Sa Robinsons Land (Fort Residences, Fifth Avenue Place) and Megaworld, it is 85,000 per sqm. G&W is still cheaper but only 15% cheaper na lang instead of 40%.

I am asking because I am trying also to convince my other friends to buy also and these are questions that could come up. I hope you don't mind my asking.

Anyway, happy pa rin ako with my units! Thanks.


I'm just guessing here...

I think 5th Avenue Place probably started pre-seling when Grand Hamptons 1 started pre-selling. Then Fort Residences maybe same time as Sapphire...
Maybe the better comparison right now would be Crescent Park to Trion Towers...
I think Trion Towers started pre-selling at around P90k to P100k/sq.m...

As far as Megaworld's Bellagio 3, I think they probably started pre-selling early last year same time as Grand Hamptons 2 maybe...
They were pre-selling it around P92-P95k/sq.m... I don't know if they had any price increase since then...

I think the big jump in prices between Blue Sapphire and Crescent Park is due to the increase in the purchase price of the BGC lots...
From what I understand its getting harder to acquire new ones because the price is getting really high...

This is just my educated guess... :)



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http://www.fortboniconsultancy.com/blog/

Gov’t sees P1.9B from sale of Global City lot
http://www.fortboniconsultancy.com/blog/index.php?page=2

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your reply.

I compared Crescent Park to Fort Residences because magkatabi lang sila ng location. Although Fort Residences was launched earlier, there are still many available units to choose from. So, if I were trying to convince a friend to buy from Crescent Park, naturally i-co-compare niya ito sa current price ng Fort Residences. Same goes with Fifth Avenue Place.

By the way, I just love the floor plan layout of the 1-BR units in Crescent Park compared to the earlier buildings of G&W. This is because you don't actually pass thru the kitchen when you enter your unit to go to the dining/living/bedroom areas.
Sana, ganito lagi sa susunod na layout ng G&W.

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your reply.

I compared Crescent Park to Fort Residences because magkatabi lang sila ng location. Although Fort Residences was launched earlier, there are still many available units to choose from. So, if I were trying to convince a friend to buy from Crescent Park, naturally i-co-compare niya ito sa current price ng Fort Residences. Same goes with Fifth Avenue Place.

By the way, I just love the floor plan layout of the 1-BR units in Crescent Park compared to the earlier buildings of G&W. This is because you don't actually pass thru the kitchen when you enter your unit to go to the dining/living/bedroom areas.
Sana, ganito lagi sa susunod na layout ng G&W.


Wow!
I thought Fort Residences and Fifth Aveue Place were already sold out since they've started pre-selling a long time ago plus they already started pre-selling Trion Towers.

I agree that Fort Residences is a good comparison to Crescent Park. Size wise and location almost the same.
First of all both projects are good projects. RLC is a dependable developer too.
If I was going to convince somebody between the two projects here are the main points I will make.

1) Low Density Living. CPR - 8 units per floor, FR - 11 units per floor / 18 units per floor (lofts)
2) Price CPR - P73k, FR - P85k (If that is the correct one)
3) Unit design - CPR has multi corner windows and has Wide Front windows. Even 1-Bedroom you feel like a VIP... LOL
I haven't seen a floor plan like this. Even Sapphire's floor plan is really great.
4) Turnover Date CPR - 3rd Quarter 2010 FR - I don't know
5) Exterior and Design - I really like the placement of the infinity Pool on CPR. But this is very subjective.

Also, ask for the payment plans for both. One might be more affordable sa budget compared to the other.

G&W has option for "Ready to Receive" you get the unit bare - and you get to finish it the way you like it.
This works for me - because not only I can do the interior decorating but it also lowers my loan until the condo is ready to be finished.
I'm thinking why will I pay interest for stuff that I will change when the unit is turned over.
Then again, alot of people don't want the hassle of construction.

Investing in BGC is a win win situation!


http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/FR-01.jpe

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/FR-02.jpe

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/FR-03.jpe

(Important Note: I will post this comparision for the mean time. However, if the moderators of this Forum feel that doing such is not proper, I'm willing to delete this post. Just let me know.)

Crescent Park Residences - CPR
The Fort Residences - TFR

Other differences:

1) Parking Slots

CPR : The parking slot that you’ll purchase at CPR is covered by a title; in simple words, you OWN the parking slot.

TFR: The parking slot is only a PARKING RIGHT. There is no title to the parking slot that you’ll purchase at TFR.

2) Density - refers to the number of units per floor. Lesser number of units translate to more privacy and more exclusivity for the condominium building.

CPR: There are 8 units per typical floor (3rd-24th floors); there are 4 units per floor for the floors dedicated to 3-BR units (25th-28th floors).

TFR: 3rd-8th floors are dedicated to “flat” units and there are 11 units/floor; 22nd-26th floors are dedicated to loft units which have 17 units/floor.

3) Floor to Ceiling Height - A higher floor to ceiling height translates to a more spacious "feel" for the condo unit. You can really feel the diffence between a condo which has a higher floor to ceiling height vis-à-vis one which has a lower floor to ceiling height.

CPR: 2.8 meters or 9.1 feet (Might be even higher, 3.2 meters, for the principal areas)
TFR: 2.6 meters or 8.5 feet

4) Kitchen countertop

CPR: Granite countertop – The advantage of granite is its durability vs a laminated countertop. (Note: This is applicable for units based on “Upgraded Finish” (UF).
TFR: Laminated countertop

5) Exhaust fans at the T&B area

CPR: Upon condo unit turnover, the exhaust fans are already provided at the Toilet and Bath (T&B) areas.

TFR: Ventilation is provided for this area, but the unit owner will install his own exhaust fans.

6) Shower glass enclosures

CPR: All regular T&Bs have shower glass enclosures (Upgraded Finish).
TFR: Only shower rods are provided at the T&B areas.

7) Condominium turnover date –
CPR: June-Sept 2010
TFR: June 2011

On another note....

People have different tastes and preferences with regard to design and lay-out - one might find it beautiful while the other person does not find it appealing.

Items 1-7 above are based on objective parameters (read: "walang bola".)

I think the big jump in prices between Blue Sapphire and Crescent Park is due to the increase in the purchase price of the BGC lots...

Here are some related articles:
Future condo units will be priced at Php 90k/sqm and up
http://www.fortboniconsultancy.com/blog/

Gov’t sees P1.9B from sale of Global City lot
http://www.fortboniconsultancy.com/blog/index.php?page=2

On a similar note with regard to lot prices at BGC....

Last June 2007, the last transaction at Bonifacio Global City (BGC) was pegged at Php 145k/sqm. JPMorgan, a highly respected financial group/institution, commented that at Php 145k/sqm, BGC lots are still undervalued!

Probably, the BCDA people read the JP Morgan report, thus the increase of the bid price for the Big Delta lots from the original price of Php 150k/sqm to Php 160k/sqm . My head is spinning now!

Cynch,

Is that the same for GH and Sapphire?

a) Ceiling = 2.8m? (I thought 3m - maybe rounding error... :lol: )
b) Exhaust Ready for T&B

I remember for Blue Sapphire it's 3.2M for the principal areas. (Not sure with Grand Hamptons 1 and 2 ---2.8M-2.9M).

If it's 3.2M for Crescent Park Residences (all the way) - sobrang okay!

Hi Rick,

By the way, I just love the floor plan layout of the 1-BR units in Crescent Park compared to the earlier buildings of G&W. This is because you don't actually pass thru the kitchen when you enter your unit to go to the dining/living/bedroom areas.
Sana, ganito lagi sa susunod na layout ng G&W.

Its nice to see a different point of view.

I actually like the Sapphire/GH layout where you pass by the kitchen because
I want to make the my kitchen really look good.
Cause here in the US - Kitchen and Bathrooms are great selling features.
I've seen some unbelievable Kitchen and Bathroom designs. :lol:

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/Kitchen-04.jpg

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/Kitchen-02.jpg

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/Kitchen-03.jpg

Cynch,

b) Exhaust Ready for T&B

Not just exhaust ready; there's an exhaust fan talaga at the T&B area (Did I use the right word there, "exhaust fan"?) I got a Ready To Receive (RRF) for my Kensington unit and the T&B has an exhaust fan.

Actual exhaust fan:

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/cynchyap/Kensington%2010-I/IMG_0627.jpg

That's good I didn't even thought about the Exhaust fan sa T&B... :)

Wow!
I thought Fort Residences and Fifth Aveue Place were already sold out since they've started pre-selling a long time ago plus they already started pre-selling Trion Towers.

I agree that Fort Residences is a good comparison to Crescent Park. Size wise and location almost the same.
First of all both projects are good projects. RLC is a dependable developer too.
If I was going to convince somebody between the two projects here are the main points I will make.

1) Low Density Living. CPR - 8 units per floor, FR - 11 units per floor / 18 units per floor (lofts)
2) Price CPR - P73k, FR - P85k (If that is the correct one)
3) Unit design - CPR has multi corner windows and has Wide Front windows. Even 1-Bedroom you feel like a VIP... LOL
I haven't seen a floor plan like this. Even Sapphire's floor plan is really great.
4) Turnover Date CPR - 3rd Quarter 2010 FR - I don't know
5) Exterior and Design - I really like the placement of the infinity Pool on CPR. But this is very subjective.

Also, ask for the payment plans for both. One might be more affordable sa budget compared to the other.

G&W has option for "Ready to Receive" you get the unit bare - and you get to finish it the way you like it.
This works for me - because not only I can do the interior decorating but it also lowers my loan until the condo is ready to be finished.
I'm thinking why will I pay interest for stuff that I will change when the unit is turned over.
Then again, alot of people don't want the hassle of construction.

Investing in BGC is a win win situation!






I just double checked the payment plan I got for the Fort Residences. A 46 sqm unit would cost 3.8M (that would come out to 83,000 pesos per sqm lang pala). They offer 1% of contract price as monthly payment up to 48 months. The balance of 52%, you pay upon turnover. No balloon payments in between. This is lighter on the pocket because you pay most of the cost upon turnover. Unit turnover I believe is in June 2011. That is a difference of only 9 months from Crescent Park.

But I like G&W's building designs that is why I still chose to buy units from G&W but this is subjective. But my point is, the gap seems to be closing between G&W and other developers.

(Important Note: I will post this comparision for the mean time. However, if the moderators of this Forum feel that doing such is not proper, I'm willing to delete this post. Just let me know.)

Crescent Park Residences - CPR
The Fort Residences - TFR

Other differences:

1) Parking Slots

CPR : The parking slot that you’ll purchase at CPR is covered by a title; in simple words, you OWN the parking slot.

TFR: The parking slot is only a PARKING RIGHT. There is no title to the parking slot that you’ll purchase at TFR.

2) Density - refers to the number of units per floor. Lesser number of units translate to more privacy and more exclusivity for the condominium building.

CPR: There are 8 units per typical floor (3rd-24th floors); there are 4 units per floor for the floors dedicated to 3-BR units (25th-28th floors).

TFR: 3rd-8th floors are dedicated to “flat” units and there are 11 units/floor; 22nd-26th floors are dedicated to loft units which have 17 units/floor.

3) Floor to Ceiling Height - A higher floor to ceiling height translates to a more spacious "feel" for the condo unit. You can really feel the diffence between a condo which has a higher floor to ceiling height vis-à-vis one which has a lower floor to ceiling height.

CPR: 2.8 meters or 9.1 feet (Might be even higher, 3.2 meters, for the principal areas)
TFR: 2.6 meters or 8.5 feet

4) Kitchen countertop

CPR: Granite countertop – The advantage of granite is its durability vs a laminated countertop. (Note: This is applicable for units based on “Upgraded Finish” (UF).
TFR: Laminated countertop

5) Exhaust fans at the T&B area

CPR: Upon condo unit turnover, the exhaust fans are already provided at the Toilet and Bath (T&B) areas.

TFR: Ventilation is provided for this area, but the unit owner will install his own exhaust fans.

6) Shower glass enclosures

CPR: All regular T&Bs have shower glass enclosures (Upgraded Finish).
TFR: Only shower rods are provided at the T&B areas.

7) Condominium turnover date –
CPR: June-Sept 2010
TFR: June 2011

On another note....

People have different tastes and preferences with regard to design and lay-out - one might find it beautiful while the other person does not find it appealing.

Items 1-7 above are based on objective parameters (read: "walang bola".)

Thanks for the comparison cynch. Very informative.

But I like G&W's building designs that is why I still chose to buy units from G&W but this is subjective. But my point is, the gap seems to be closing between G&W and other developers.

Mismo! Bull's eye!

Again, due to:
a) Higher lot prices
b) The conscious effort on the part of G&W in continuously improving the building design which has an impact on construction materials used in the building
b) Increasing cost of construction materials

These are the 3 main reasons why I personally have positioned myself already.

Mismo! Bull's eye!

Again, due to:
a) Higher lot prices
b) The conscious effort on the part of G&W in continuously improving the building design which has an impact on construction materials used in the building
b) Increasing cost of construction materials

These are the 3 main reasons why I personally have positioned myself already.


Haha... you are one lucky person!

Anyway, does Crescent Park have a multi-purpose function room like Grand Hamptons? Gusto ko kasi mag birthday party ng mga anak ko sa roof deck, with matching overlooking views of Makati/Ortigas skyline.

Thanks.

http://www.readyforoccupancy.com/CPR-03.jpg

I think its on the 3rd floor...
Looks nice too with the Infinity pool and the panoramic view of the closeby condos...
I think Kensington has one... baka pwede maki share... :lol:

@Rick,

Pero naghahanap ako VERY HIGH roofdeck para may stunning views ang party venue! :)

Yung Kensington, hindi blocked ang view nito?

Yung sa Grand Hamptons kasi, the function room on the 21st floor has a view of Ortigas Skyline and Makati Skyline coz mababa lang ang building na katabi niya. Aren't you a unit owner of Grand Hamptons Rick? If you want, i-sponsor mo ako when the time comes and I will sponsor you if you want to use the Infinity pool area of Crescent Park for your parties. :)

I think its on the 3rd floor...
Looks nice too with the Infinity pool and the panoramic view of the closeby condos...
I think Kensington has one... baka pwede maki share... :lol: [/CENTER]

Pero naghahanap ako VERY HIGH roofdeck para may stunning views ang party venue! :)

Yung Kensington, hindi blocked ang view nito?

Yung sa Grand Hamptons kasi, may view of Ortigas Skyline and Makati Skyline coz mababa lang ang building na katabi niya. Aren't you a unit owner of Grand Hamptons Rick? If you want, i-sponsor mo ako when the time comes and I will sponsor you if you want to use the Infinity pool area of Crescent Park for your parties. :)

keypool, crescent park ka pala, ilang bedroom ang unit mo? kung 3bdrm, pwede ba makitulog mga kamag-anak ko pag dumalaw from the province? :lol: :bash: 1bdrm lang kasi sa kin.

cynch, sold out na rin 1bdrm units G? :nuts:

comment ko pala sa burgos park, ampangit ng mga trees, mas maganda yung nasa rendering ni Gibs, pwede ba palitan ng bgc ang mga puno like those palms sa tabi ng infinity pool?

shops/resto at the forbes town center will brighten the area, does anyone know when will megaworld have the town center started?