does anyone know the status of the subway? where i can find the map?

maybe this afternoon or tomorrow?
yeah, when will it be built anyway?

I bet you it won't be built before ten years.

never

well i found at www.urbanrail.net/as/hcmc/ho-chi-minh-city.htm

A city-wide subway system (195 km by the year of 2020) is planned for Ho Chi Minh City, in southern Vietnam (formerly known as Saigon). The population in the metropolitan area is about 3.5 million.

According to the master plan announced in February 2001, the inner metro system will comprise the following routes:

- Northwest-Southeast (46.86km long with 44 stops)
- Inner Belt (43.14km, 45 stops)
- Tan Son Nhat (9.3km, nine stops)
- Hoa Hung-Hanoi Highway-Thu Thiem (21km, 18 stops)
- Ben Thanh-District 2-District 9-Thu Duc (27.5 km, 18 stops)
- Bien Hoa-Binh Chanh-Hoa Hung (46 km, 42 stops)

The master plan for the metro project also includes the development of routes running outside HCM City. These include the 43km Long Binh-Hoc Mon route, the Hoc Mon-Binh Chanh-Tien Giang route, the Thu Duc-Long Binh-Long Thanh-Vung Tau route and the Thu Thiem-Long Binh Vung Tau route.

Two priority lines:

1) Quang Trung - Tan Son Nhat - Ben Thanh Line: 10 km, half surface, half underground

2) Ben Thanh - Binh Tay Market Line: 7 km, 8 stations, all underground

Platform length: 125 m
Average station distance: 700 - 1,300 m
Max speed: 80 km/h
Headway: 4 min. (min. 2 min.)
Gauge: 1,435 mm
Car width: 3 m

Construction start - 2005

Does the city really need a subway system? I mean.....is it a feasible projection?

Does the city really need a subway system? I mean.....is it a feasible projection?
Have ou ever been in Saigon before? The answer lies within your first time entering Saigon. LOL

So I'm guessing thats a yes? ;)

Yes, indeed. :)

When will they built Saigon's subway?
2008, 2009? :dunno:
Hope I can see it before I die :lol:

You shouldn't be so rude.

This is the thread about Saigon's subway, NOT the place for you to insult Communism.

"Old Habits Die Hard" in VN. The last time I was there in NhaTrang in 2001, the entire city block was dug up and a giant bull dozer sat idle for the whole week I was there. Nothing will change as long as people put up with it and go on with their lives. My driver even told me that the government/contractor was very smart by letting the soil compact naturally by on-going traffic(what a clever fellow or I-know-everything mentality of her average citizen or there's an excuse for everything). Unbeknown to him, it would have cost around $600/day to rent a machine like that in the US(what's a waste of expensive resource).
It also happened in pre-commie time; let be honest about it. Anybody went or had his/her parent(s) go to ChuVanAn high school in Saigon could tell you about it: a half-finish classroom expansion ordered/initiated by NguyenCaoKy (his old alumni school from the North) sat empty in the middle of a crowded school. I had no idea if it was ever finished since I left country in 70/71. There are countless stories like that and what are you going to do about it.

at least read a bit of news...

HCM City: Central metro depot to be completed in 2008
13:41' 04/06/2007 (GMT+7)


VietNamNet Bridge - The construction of the central depot of the first metro route of HCM City, which is located in Long Binh Ward, District 9, will be kicked off by year’s end.



Deputy Director of the HCM City Urban Railway Management Board, Le Hong Ha, said that the metro route running from the city’s centre to the Suoi Tien Cultural Park is invested by Japan with a total capital of up to US$1 billion. If the construction pace is conducted under schedule, the central depot of this route will be completed in late 2008 and the whole route will be completed in 2013.



HCM City has designed six metro routes. Of which, the fourth routes running around the city has been ordered by Chinese partners. Korean, Chinese and French companies are surveying the feasibility of the fifth and the sixth routes. According to Mr Ha, HCM City will firstly focus construction on three metro routes.



The Asian Development Bank (ADB) and the MVA ASIA consulting group last weekend introduced the research plan to build HCM City’s metro system, mainly the second and the third routes. Previously the bank agreed to provide non-refundable aid of $1.7 million for HCM City to build the two above routes.



MVA ASIA’s expert, Paul Williams, said that MVA will research the plan to base the depots of route 2, 3 at the Saigon Railway Station to take advantage of the site. However, he said that HCM City leaders have to tell investors how much capital they will pay for the metro routes, the land revoking, ticket sale plans, etc.



According to MVA ASIA’s expert, it is difficult to link metro routes to the current traffic systems of HCM City.



MVA ASIA began to research and design the metro routes 2 and 3 on May 11. MVA has ten months to make the initial technical design and evaluate the impacts of the two metro routes to HCM City’s socio - economic situation. The comprehensive plan must be finished in late August. The last report will be made in late April 2008.



(Source: VNE)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City_Metro

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/FK03Ae03.html

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/hcmc/hcmc-map.jpg

"các năm xa hơn " là khi nào nhẩy

This map is very outdated and inaccurate.

yeah thats right!! this map is out of date. but i'm sure we can see the first metro route in 2013!

yeah thats right!! this map is out of date. but i'm sure we can see the first metro route in 2013!

please post the latest map + inform which route (colour) will be completet in 2013. thank you.

Is there no one who is able to find the project website (in vietnamese I assume) and post a map or clarify the lines which will be built?

just wait until we have actual pictures of the construction, then we'll talk

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Hey i think raising the metro rail line above the streets is not a bad idea. it can really offer a lot cool shades for saigon. it also looks very exotic like the skytrain in bangkok....


I think the downtown area should not have something like metro rail line above the street but at new areas like Tay bac area, thu thiem, and phu my hung.

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^^i think the raised rail-lines should be in the old areas where there is no more room to expand...while thu thiem and pmh and tay bac have plenty of room.

it'll destroy the look of the downtown though.

Hey i think raising the metro rail line above the streets is not a bad idea. it can really offer a lot cool shades for saigon. it also looks very exotic like the skytrain in bangkok....
learn from other mistake, do not raise the metro line above the city street, it is a mistake that other country did. it is horrible ruin the city scape, it is not exotic, the skytrain in bankok was a mistake, nobody like it, before they said it cannot be underground cause of water level, so they built above ground and it ruin the city scape. now they have mrt.

learn from other mistake, do not raise the metro line above the city street, it is a mistake that other country did. it is horrible ruin the city scape, it is not exotic, the skytrain in bankok was a mistake, nobody like it, before they said it cannot be underground cause of water level, so they built above ground and it ruin the city scape. now they have mrt.

IMO, elevated train system doesn't necessarily ruin the city scape.
Some people love it, some people hate it. It depends.
To say nobody like it is a stupid exaggeration.

Someone says Skytrain gives a modern and dynamic look to the city, and it can be a great tourist attraction for city sightseeing.
I read some comments in the Philippines forum once and most of them said they prefer riding on their elevated LTR to riding on the dark and boring subway. Moreover, building the subway costs you much much more than building the skytrain.
Even the richer cities like Kuala Lumpur and Dubai, they have elevated train system in downtown and continue to build more.

Talking about Bangkok (as it seems to me you love talking about Bangkok and Thailand), I wouldn't call the existing skytrain a mistake, even though it makes the street level look ugly in some parts. When the country was not rich enought to afford the subway, skytrain was the best way they could do to solve the traffic.

However, we have a subway line now, 1 new line and 2 extensions being contructed in Bangkok are all above ground. Even the 4 new lines waitng for bidding are mostly above ground. Only some parts that go through the crowded downtown area and the historical Rattanakosin area will be underground.
Look at these pictures, elevated skytrain built on the wide road doesn't look too bad. :)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/500639697_7d77d0e659.jpg?v=0http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/500639687_adfd0d7db6.jpg?v=0

As for Saigon, I think the MRT system there should be underground, except for the part that go through the new well-planned area that have wide roads.

:)

the skytrain in BKK looks NICE, is a good trourism attraction and you have a great view over the city. i do not know whats the problem. Subway is boring and much more expensive then the elevated solution.

IMO, elevated train system doesn't necessarily ruin the city scape.
Some people love it, some people hate it. It depends.
To say nobody like it is a stupid exaggeration.

Someone says Skytrain gives a modern and dynamic look to the city, and it can be a great tourist attraction for city sightseeing.
I read some comments in the Philippines forum once and most of them said they prefer riding on their elevated LTR to riding on the dark and boring subway. Moreover, building the subway costs you much much more than building the skytrain.
Even the richer cities like Kuala Lumpur and Dubai, they have elevated train system in downtown and continue to build more.

Talking about Bangkok (as it seems to me you love talking about Bangkok and Thailand), I wouldn't call the existing skytrain a mistake, even though it makes the street level look ugly in some parts. When the country was not rich enought to afford the subway, skytrain was the best way they could do to solve the traffic.

However, we have a subway line now, 1 new line and 2 extensions being contructed in Bangkok are all above ground. Even the 4 new lines waitng for bidding are mostly above ground. Only some parts that go through the crowded downtown area and the historical Rattanakosin area will be underground.
Look at these pictures, elevated skytrain built on the wide road doesn't look too bad. :)


As for Saigon, I think the MRT system there should be underground, except for the part that go through the new well-planned area that have wide roads.

:)

That's what I'm saying though. The historic and financial downtown of Saigon was very well planned and planned with a subway in mind. It will destroy the downtown if we have elevated train. The elevated trains should only be outside of the downtown center and newly built areas. Also Hanoi is planning for its elevated trains already, so Vietnam's not missing out on that.

1- Investor:

The HCM City Service of Communications and Public Works
63 Ly Tu Trong Street, District 1
HCM City, Vietnam
Tel: 84-8-829 0451 or 823 7439 Fax: 84-8-829 0458

2- Subways

- No. 5 route: (Saigon River – Can Giuoc bus station): 17 kilometers running along streets Dien Bien Phu, Bach Dang, Phan Dang Luu, Hoang Van Thu (turning to Tan Son Nhat Airport), Ly Thuong Kiet, Phu Dong Thien Vuong and Can Giuoc bus station

- No. 6 route: (Ba Queo T-junction – Phu Lam Roundabout): 6 kilometers running along Au Co and Luy Ban Bich streets



- Investment estimate: some US$40 million a kilometer of underground subway and US$20 million a kilometer of aboveground subway

3- Tramways (or monorail): total length of 35 kilometers:

- No. 2 route: (Intersection of National Highway 50 and Nguyen Van Linh Boulevard to District 2): 14 kilometers running along Nguyen Van Linh and Tan Thuan Export Processing Zone to District 2

- No. 3 route: (Quang Trung Software City – Nguyen Oanh Street): 8.5 kilometers running along Quang Trung Street to Go Vap District

-Investment estimate: some US$7 million a kilometer

4- Investment form: 100% foreign-invested, joint-venture, business cooperation contract (BCC)

http://www.dpi.hochiminhcity.gov.vn/invest/html/Solieu/SUBWAY.jpg

From http://www.dpi.hochiminhcity.gov.vn/

Construction of Line 2 began in 2010 and Line 1 in August 2012.

BTW, better, more up-to-date page here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415310&page=68).

2005 - 2013 : 8 years have passed but still no progress on the project