^^
I don't suppose you can translate it. Very sad this, I was looking forward to it being built, I like Valencia and I was looking forward to them becoming a genuine power in Spanish and world football thanks to the added revenue this stadium would bring in for them.

In England, where clubs generally have to fend for themselves without any help from public money, there would be a huge problem.

But not in Spain.

My guess is that the city council will help out Valencia CF. The new stadium will be a symbol for the whole city rather than just for the club. So I would still expect Valencia to be playing homes games at the New Mestalla by the beginning of the 2010-11 season.

My guess is that the city council will help out Valencia CF. The new stadium will be a symbol for the whole city rather than just for the club. So I would still expect Valencia to be playing homes games at the New Mestalla by the beginning of the 2010-11 season.I am not sure about that. The level of debt of the City Council is already extremely high and the situation won't improve in the short term.

Valencia thought they would receive a huge amount of money for the terrain where Mestalla is settled but the real state bubble exploded and now nobody wants to build anything. Moreover, they have a ridiculous situation with its sponsor so they are not receiving money from that source. And still they don't want to sell their most valuable players...

Future is pretty dark for Valencia and Nou Mestalla I am afraid.

Mestalla will be finished. Don't worry guys.

But when? :)

I see only outside cladding and roof must be finished.Or they can play without outside cladding and roof :D

I see only outside cladding and roof must be finished.Or they can play without outside cladding and roof :D

Outside cladding and roof...............................and seats and corporate areas and food and catering outlets and and offices and toilets and health and safety requirements and elecricity and heating and running water and all other utilities and sound systems and video screens and changing rooms and press centre and communications and anything else that will make this stadium useable for a football match......not to mention an actual football pitch!

Good work Valenica showing is all how to run a club:bash:
What's going to happen now is it just going to sit there and rot or is there going to be some kind of salvation for the project?

Of cause not, the old Mestalla is still very central so the land is highly valuabe, sooner or later someone will step up and buy it. Valencia will have to do with less expensive players and sell their stars.

In a architectural POV (this is an architectual forum after all), what can be done to save costs? Is it possible to ditch the roof, for example?

Go sell David Silva and David Villa!!!!!!!!! For the Nou Mestalla please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The construction works for the new Valencia Football Stadium have been interrupted due to the financial difficulties of the football club. The news is given by Spanish media. The new, ultra-modern facility, featuring 75 thousand seats for an estimated cost of roughly 200 million euros, should have been replacing the Mestalla Stadium (55 thousand seats) starting from the season 2009-2010. Valencia Football Club is heavily indebted - as reported by the sport daily news AS and by the local newspaper Las Provincias - and does not have funds to continue with the works that started in 2007 and that have now been suspended indefinitely. Anyway, the club is hoping that the works will be restarted at some point and that the stadium can be ready for the season 2010-2011."

But when? :)

On time :). Valencia hasn't economic troubles, Valencia is building a new home, without selling the old house. Wich club around the world could make this? no one.

When Mestalla's terrains will be sold, all this trouble will finish. Without international crisis, all this history never would be here...

To survive until the sell, there are many resources to make it possible:

-Tv rights. 240 million. (signed).
-Sponsor. 20 million
-VIP seats for new stadium.
-New seat holders for next seasons. (5000 sold yet)
-Kappa contract. +15 million for 3 seasons. (signed)
-Terciary use for new stadium. (maybe 300 million for 50% during 15 years)

More and more, Valencia has a lot of terrains in, and out the city. Two training centers (paterna, and porxinos terrains)....

So, the current difficulties are normal in this situation, but "when you have the solution for a trouble, you don't have a trouble". Only must be patient.

Any person could do the numbers?

-Mestalla: 315
-Terciary: 300
-Sponsor: 20
-TV: 240
-Kappa: 15
-Paterna: 150 (estimated)
-Porxinos: 170
-----------------
1.210 million.

Estimated debts of club actually: 610 million.

1.210 <-------> 610

This is without caring about players value, and new stadium complete value.

http://www.as.com/futbol/articulo/oficial-obras-nuevo-estadio-paralizan/dasftb/20090225dasdaiftb_9/Tes

according to that article, the old mestalla's parcel has already been sold...

Valencia FC is in big economic troubles, New stadium building interrupted, players aren't payed anymore for 16 M€.....

Sell David Villa to me! I will buy him for 65 Million Euros... :)

according to that article, the old mestalla's parcel has already been sold...No, that's a lie said by the president some months ago. But now we know it wasn't true.

Any person could do the numbers?

-Mestalla: 315
-Terciary: 300
-Sponsor: 20
-TV: 240
-Kappa: 15
-Paterna: 150 (estimated)
-Porxinos: 170
-----------------
1.210 million.

Estimated debts of club actually: 610 million.

1.210 <-------> 610

This is without caring about players value, and new stadium complete value.I am afraid you are too optimist, but I guess it's normal being a supporter.

315 M€ was the money Valencia wanted for the terrains of Old Mestalla but nobody offered anything close. If they manage to sell it (something really hard in the next couple of years) it will be for far less money. The same goes for the terrains of Porxinos and Paterna. Now they are not worth that much.

300M€ for terciary usage? It looks way too much.

And of course you cannot count the revenues only. A club like Valencia has a lot of expenses.

The stadium will be finished for sure. But I really doubt it will happen in the planned schedule.

480 million were offered two years ago for Mestalla's terrain. 300 million is the offer for terciary usage, without caring about the years of usage (around 15), but this was the offer.

And yes, i'm optimist, mainly because there are yet many people being negative and saying a lot of things that aren't true, and painting a situation that doesn't exist. Following your words, must i believe that a supporter is a brainless uncapable to think like a normal person? You don't know nothing about me, so...

Evidently, Valencia has now a big trouble to make real money, but i repeat, when you have the solution for a trouble you can't say you are lost, simply you must to be patient and follow the steps.

I invite whatever club around the world to build a new stadium without selling the old. And you can suppose what will happen. This is all the problem.

Did Valencia stop? Why?

Apparently a lack of funds.

http://www.futuromestalla.com/skys/semana75_12.jpg
Why on earth does that sign say "STOP" instead of "ALTO" or "PARE"??

Its in the English district!

How symbolic
Stadium conctruction and STOP
:(

How symbolic
Stadium conctruction and STOP
:(

lol...



In spain stop is a normal word. Used habitually like a own word.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1470/2009eneroestadio04.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6190/2009eneroestadio05.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5796/2009eneroestadio06.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4092/2009febreroestadio04.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2528/2009febreroestadio03.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9522/infografias4.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6468/infografias8.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8421/infografias10.jpg

^^ looking good!!

The Stop sign is universal.

a question, in the renders the fans look close to the pitch, but i thought this stadium was based on stade de france where they are not, am i mistaken?

when we gonna see some exterior work?

a question, in the renders the fans look close to the pitch, but i thought this stadium was based on stade de france where they are not, am i mistaken?

actually stands are quite close to the pitch.
They will install a Wembley platform system at athetic events

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5246/valenciafwy2.jpg

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3317/valenciaaan2.jpg

Any news on the construction work? Have they resumed work, or are they calling upon the city to take over the funding? The club might be in big trouble, but you can't leave this construction site as it is niw, can you?

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8421/infografias10.jpg

Great Stadium but it's really amazing how many architects adopt/copy Herzog & de Meuron's exterior design of the Allianz Arena Munich. The same in soccer city.

Has nothing in common with Allianz Arena Munich.

this Valencia stadium is actually a hugely elegant and beautiful design.

The Allianz Arena look like an Ipod Donut.

soccer city is a calabash. an african design. not adopted from the "look at me change colour" Allianz.

Great Stadium but it's really amazing how many architects adopt/copy Herzog & de Meuron's exterior design of the Allianz Arena Munich. The same in soccer city.

I WANT WHAT YOUR SMOKING! :nuts:

Still no work at the construction site?

has construction stopped?

^^
Yep and don't expect it to restart anytime soon Valencia are in huge debt and the City won't bail them out. Also they are no falling to pieces on the pitch and will almost definitely not make it in to the Champions League next season which means they will lose much needed big money. They also failed to make it last season so that was when the rut really started. There only hope is to sell all their best players at the end of the season, which they probably will do. It all depends on how much money they can get.

Valencia have made a big financial move this evening as they have taken out a 50 million € loan and also made a capital increase of 92 million €.

The works in the stadium were restarted yesterday although with not many workers.

Construction resumed yesterday? That's really good news. This masterpiece must be completed in any case... Btw who paid 92 million € for Valencia's capital increase? He or she would get very very big rewards for that in the next world :lol:

Valencia have made a big financial move this evening as they have taken out a 50 million € loan and also made a capital increase of 92 million €.

The works in the stadium were restarted yesterday although with not many workers.

Is that really good idea they already in massive amounts of debt? You don't get out of a hole by digging deeper. Still hope they can get this built and keep there are top players and Valencia are my favorite team from Spain, I would love to see them compete with Barca and Real on a regular basis.

But 92 million euro is not Valencia's debt but Valencia's capital, which is more important than 50 million euro increase in debt, IMO, because that means 42 million euro increase in Valencia's net asset. That's the point. You said Valencia digged the hole deeper but that's not true. Valencia filled the hole a little, and, as a result, made themselves more likely to get out of it!

They could squeeze 60-70 mils for Villa and Silva.. if not more. That should do it.

^^
Good point I just read the debt part and put 2 and 2 together and got 5:nuts:
Well I hope they can get this built without crippling themselves. If they are in La Liga when this is finished then I am sure they will be able to turn the corner and get through this.

They could squeeze 60-70 mils for Villa and Silva.. if not more. That should do it.

Yes. That would bring a total of 102-112 million increase in their net asset! :nuts:

Valencia have made a big financial move this evening as they have taken out a 50 million € loan and also made a capital increase of 92 million €.

Btw who paid 92 million € for Valencia's capital increase?
Valencia didn't made a capital increase at all. The club simply said they will try to get 92 M€ in a capital increase this summer to solve their critical situation.

Let's hope the stadium is finished as soon as possible.

They could squeeze 60-70 mils for Villa and Silva.. if not more. That should do it.And if they use that money to pay off dept, how will they get back into the Champions League and actually start making a profit? Having a great stadium isn't nearly as profitable as playing in the CL. This project was started way too soon.

actually stands are quite close to the pitch.
They will install a Wembley platform system at athetic events



What?? wembley has a athletic track???? :ohno:

its just possible
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=98755
(2nd post)

I am just asking myself is it possible to see every lane in athletics track, because with athletic track first row is very high and track is close to stands ?

The New Mestalla Stadium's usual capacity is 73,000, butwhat will its capacity be with the athletics platform system?

^^
52.000 seats

Have they resumed construction?

Not yet.:ohno:

Check below link (webcam) for present status of works.

http://www.superdeporte.es/servicios/camaraMestalla/camaraMestalla.jsp

From Spanish thread:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3460/3386916845_5800378e3b_b.jpg
flickr©Chimpanz APe

I dont like that 3rd tier. It looks wasteful and somewhat old-fashioned.

Have they resumed the construction?

Have they resumed the construction?

nop:ohno:

^^
Today I've seen three workers :P

So far, no news update, but at least, here is a couple of vids taken from Spanish thread.
Both vids are a summary of works from the very beginning with interesting views from inside the stadium

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Whoa, thats cool, so they found an old ruin in the stadium site?

Yes, it's not unusual in Valencia to find archaeological remains if you dig.
However, these were not very important, and they were somewhat expected.
They were an old mill and an irrigation ditch. Only few parts were removed and saved and probably they will be placed in a square near the new stadium after restoring them.

By the way, this old irrigation ditch also run below old stadium and it is named Mestalla, and as you will guess, the old stadium was named after it. It was funny to find it also in the new stadium site.

so sad that they stop building the team a stadium because they cant win anything.

"Usted los lifes bajos no puede ganar, y solamente los ganadores pueden tener un nuevo estadio. ¡Ningún estadio para usted!"

In English
'You low lifes can not win, and only winners can have a new stadium. No stadium for you!"

so sad that they stop building the team a stadium because they cant win anything.

"Usted los lifes bajos no puede ganar, y solamente los ganadores pueden tener un nuevo estadio. ¡Ningún estadio para usted!"

In English
'You low lifes can not win, and only winners can have a new stadium. No stadium for you!"

Valencia has a fabulous record...

They're defending Copa del Rey champions, and they've made the final this season. Despite their financial crisis they currently sit 4th in La Liga which classifies as a Champions League spot. They won a mini Spanish-European double in 03/04 with La Liga and the UEFA Cup. They followed that with a UEFA Super Cup the next season.

They're seven-time Copa del Rey winners. six-time Spanish champions, three-time UEFA Cup winners (a record), Cup Winners Cup winners, and they even won an Intertoto cup. In fact Valencia are one of the few clubs (two clubs, actually with Barca the other) who could win a "Grand Slam" next season if they win the Champions League.

They're one of the world's finest, most respected clubs. They're hardly "low-life losers".

In fact Valencia are one of the few clubs (two clubs, actually with Barca the other) who could win a "Grand Slam" next season if they win the Champions League..Wrong. Juventus also has won every international tournament. They became the first to do so in 1985. Barca became the second team to do so seven years later in 1992.

Wrong. Juventus also has won every international tournament. They became the first to do so in 1985. Barca became the second team to do so seven years later in 1992.

That's why I said "could", Juventus already have. It was actually 1999 when they won their Intertoto Cup that they won "every" title, because Mickey Mouse or not, it counts in their "every possible official title" record. Only Juventus can achieve this honor following the disbanding of the Intertoto Cup.

Barca have never won a UEFA Cup, Valencia have. Barcelona won three Inter-city Fairs Cups, which while a precursor to the UEFA Cup, doesn't count. Otherwise Arsenal would be added to the list given their Fairs Cup win in 1970 and CWC in 1994. The Fairs Cup was never a UEFA competition (http://www.uefa.com/uefa/news/kind=1/newsid=2571.html).

Four clubs can win all four "major" European Cups with the following:
Champions League - Valencia
UEFA Cup - Barcelona
Both - Arsenal, Real Zaragoza, (and if you substitute an Intertoto for a Fairs Cup - PSG and Werder Bremen)

Ajax and Bayern Munich would join Juve and Barca under your criteria.

They're defending Copa del Rey champions, and they've made the final this season.

no they haven't the final is Barcelona vs Athletic Bilbao

Also if hamburg win the uefa cup this season they would've won all three trophies also.

It is also about time UEFA dropped their arrogance and considered the fairs cup as the same as the UEFA cup, as it is.

The intertoto cup isn't counted by anyone as a major tournament!!

Ajax and Bayern Munich would join Juve and Barca under your criteria.Bayern has never won the European Super Cup. They lost the final three times and one was never played.

These count:

European Cup / Champions League
Cup Winners Cup
Fairs Cup / UEFA Cup
European Super Cup
World Club Cup

Only Juventus, Barca and Ajax have won them all.

so sad that they stop building the team a stadium because they cant win anything.

"Usted los lifes bajos no puede ganar, y solamente los ganadores pueden tener un nuevo estadio. ¡Ningún estadio para usted!"

In English
'You low lifes can not win, and only winners can have a new stadium. No stadium for you!"

WTF?

The Super Cup? Give me a break, it's a pre-season friendly.

so sad that they stop building the team a stadium because they cant win anything.

"Usted los lifes bajos no puede ganar, y solamente los ganadores pueden tener un nuevo estadio. ¡Ningún estadio para usted!"

In English
'You low lifes can not win, and only winners can have a new stadium. No stadium for you!"

And I'd just like to say how much of an asshole I am because I get my kicks from insulting other forumers and trolling threads - oh and I can't spell. Wow, I'm so glad I got that off my chest, now I can go crawl back into my little hole


:) doesn't that feel better?

Rofl

any news ?

No news is good news... lol

Bayern has never won the European Super Cup. They lost the final three times and one was never played.

These count:

European Cup / Champions League
Cup Winners Cup
Fairs Cup / UEFA Cup
European Super Cup
World Club Cup

Only Juventus, Barca and Ajax have won them all.

only?

Any updates? I'm looking forward to seeing a healthy and entertaining Los Che playing in this wonderful stadium.

Such an ugly stadium..

Such an ugly stadium..

Its a big stadium, but I also don`t like it up to now so far. However, maybe first to wait until the finishing with seats inside, the roof and the facade, may be something could be changed.

Bayern has never won the European Super Cup. They lost the final three times and one was never played.

These count:

European Cup / Champions League
Cup Winners Cup
Fairs Cup / UEFA Cup
European Super Cup
World Club Cup

Only Juventus, Barca and Ajax have won them all.


As Barça fan I'm sorry to say this but, F.C.Barcelona has never won a World Club Cup. They have played it twice and they have lost both, in 1992 vs Sao Paulo and in 2006 vs Internacional Porto Alegre. Maybe next edition...:cheers:

No news about construction?

:ohno:

Valencia won't play in the Champions League next season, so this stadium is very much at risk...

only?Yes.

As Barça fan I'm sorry to say this but, F.C.Barcelona has never won a World Club Cup. They have played it twice and they have lost both, in 1992 vs Sao Paulo and in 2006 vs Internacional Porto Alegre. Maybe next edition...:cheers:Oh my bad. Only Juve and Ajax then :)

I was In Valencia 2 days ago, and there was nothing at the new stadium. With the current President resigning also this week, I dont fancy their chances of raising the Capital they hoped for this summer.

I also paid a visit to the Mestalla - does anyone know why the corner of the South Stand Upper Tier, closest to the Main Stand, is closed off ?

I think it's because of the roof of the main stand.
It blocks the view from the upper stand.

Gee, it would be strange to abandon the project this late, stranger things have happened but it surely doesn't make sense. The new stadium may not be the best but it's an improvement on their old one in my opinion.

The new stadium may not be the best but it's an improvement on their old one in my opinion.

May not be the best ???????

If it is completed, and that if is now sadly enough a very big IF, it would be one of the best venues in the world for football. Not the biggest, but for sure one of the best. Let us hope that construction can resume shortly, but I have my doubts.

why dont they finish the stadium without the roof and expensive exterior and then add it when they get money

May not be the best ???????

If it is completed, and that if is now sadly enough a very big IF, it would be one of the best venues in the world for football. Not the biggest, but for sure one of the best. Let us hope that construction can resume shortly, but I have my doubts.

Then you agree with me, it wont be the best, I like it but it's not my favourite. Anyway, irrespective of people's opinions on this stadium, it would be a great pity if it didn't get built. :(

why dont they finish the stadium without the roof and expensive exterior and then add it when they get money

They don't because they don't even have the money to do it :)

They don't because they don't even have the money to do it Yup. Their debt is around 550 M€, so unless they find someone who buys the terrain where Old Mestalla is located, they cannot finish it.

They wanted to get 500 M€ for that terrain, but with the current situation of the real state market in Spain I am pretty sure they will accept something in the 200-300 M€ range.

Can they resume the construction with the transfer money of David Villa?

^^ Valencia president said on saturday that he won't be sold...
Anyway, the 45m € or so they would get doesn't seem to make much of a difference when looking at the last post by Stifler:
Yup. Their debt is around 550 M€, so unless they find someone who buys the terrain where Old Mestalla is located, they cannot finish it.

They wanted to get 500 M€ for that terrain, but with the current situation of the real state market in Spain I am pretty sure they will accept something in the 200-300 M€ range.

Btw, when is the construction gonna resume?

Has nothing in common with Allianz Arena Munich.


Apart from the design of the interior.

Apart from the design of the interior.

Nope, the interior also looks nothing like the interior of the Allianz Arena

You're kidding? It's not identical but they are quite similar. Take away the render's glossy finish and the way the roof slots in and it's there.

http://acidmind.iespana.es/interior1.jpg
http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Allianz_Arena.jpg

There are some similarities, but not that much :ohno:

Take a tier off the stadium, and it's a lot more like Hamburg's stadium than the Allianz Arena.

http://www.travelplaces.co.uk/images/Football/hamburg-stadium.jpg

i dont really like how stadium look like if the upper tier is larger than the lower one

There are some similarities, but not that much :ohno:

Yet in another thread you compare Espanyol's new ground to Dnipropetrovosk despite them both having different tiers completely? :cheers:

Yet in another thread you compare Espanyol's new ground to Dnipropetrovosk despite them both having different tiers completely? :cheers:

Yea but i said that if that stadium had only 1 tier, then it would have looked similar to the stadium in Dnipropetrovsk.

You're kidding? It's not identical but they are quite similar. Take away the render's glossy finish and the way the roof slots in and it's there.


What?
Allianz has a rectangular bowl with curved corners. The first 2 tiers are similar in size and the 3rd is smaller with more rows at the sides and at the ends.
Nou Mestalla has a first tier with curved sides, while the 2nd and 3rd change towards a more oval design (notice that the 2nd tier overlaps the 1st one in the corners). The first 2 tiers are similar in size but the 3rd is considerably larger, has more rows only at the sides and has that "flower-like" profile at the top.

What?
Allianz has a rectangular bowl with curved corners. The first 2 tiers are similar in size and the 3rd is smaller with more rows at the sides and at the ends.
Nou Mestalla has a first tier with curved sides, while the 2nd and 3rd change towards a more oval design (notice that the 2nd tier overlaps the 1st one in the corners). The first 2 tiers are similar in size but the 3rd is considerably larger, has more rows only at the sides and has that "flower-like" profile at the top.

Apart from the 'flower' parts, that's straw clutching, and you know it.

I agree about the similarity with Allianz Arena. One good thing with the old Mestalla, is that it is quite original in its tier layout. I think that stadium designers as of late seem to ride the wave of a number of rather generic designs, but other than that are lacking fantasy, at least as far as tier layout.

On the other hand if you build something like that you might be more prepared to go with something that has proved to work.

Anyhow, there are a few differences between the stadiums interior that will still give them different feels.

They said that this stadium would be ready by 2010, it doesn't look like it until they will continue with the construction of the stadium.

Apart from the 'flower' parts, that's straw clutching, and you know it.

What part don't you understand? They have completely different types of stands. They only have the same number of tiers.

What part don't you understand? They have completely different types of stands. They only have the same number of tiers.

Of a similar size and design, which is my point.

^^
The render you posted is not a good one to compare it, it doesn't show any details.
If you compare a construction site photo, differences are shown better:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1470/2009eneroestadio04.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/GER/Allianz_Arena.jpg

Als kazetuner said, Nou Mestalla is nearly oval in the upper tier, while Allianz Arena is always rectangular with curved corners.

i hate to disapoint you guys...but one stadium will always have something in common/similar with another stadium due to the fact that both of the buildings in questions are yep STADIUMS

When will the construction resume???

When will the construction resume???

never.. Valencia is almost broke and the construction will be a white elephant..







...Just kidding..

^^ But still there is no clue on when the construction of the stadium will continue?

Something would have to give, afterall it is partly standing and it would be a great shame (and a great waste) if they got rid of it. Surely Valencia can see the money they'd make out of this if it's finished?

Construction will resume shortly, as good news have arrived to valencia c f

American investors are confirmed to have bougth 51% of the club,so they became the new owners

Soriano, the ex-president of the club, will have a meeting with the press on monday at 6 pm to resume all the news,but it's also confirmed he will be president
of the club again, indeed with the support of the new owners

another European team bought by an American Investor.

they expect to receive from the new investor around 400 million euros!!

So today it will be confirmed and the construction might be re-started inmediately!! :D

they expect to receive from the new investor around 400 million euros!!

So today it will be confirmed and the construction might be re-started inmediately!! :D

That's awesome!!! this will be one of the best stadiums in Europe, i cant wait till it will be completed :D

It's an impressive structure and an interesting approach to the exterior, but as I have just posted on the Bilbao stadium thread, cant help think these allianz arena lookalikes are poorly proportioned as regards the size of each tier, and their positioning. There is no overlapping, and therefore no economy of space nor minimising of viewing distances. Maybe I'm missing the reasoning, or cultural differences are reflected in this design and I'm missing the arguments for this approach. Personally, I thought the Mestalla did much of that quite well considering it was a gradually built structure. It's misgivings were obvious in the modern era, but a great football amphitheatre nevertheless.


the only reason i can come up with for limiting overlapping is that the people in the back rows of the first tier get an old trafford type of obstruction the cant se the top tier on the other side ... so i guess there is always balancig between getting the stands closer to the field and letting everybody see the entire stadium

Great news!

Construction will resume shortly, as good news have arrived to valencia c f

American investors are confirmed to have bougth 51% of the club,so they became the new owners

Soriano, the ex-president of the club, will have a meeting with the press on monday at 6 pm to resume all the news,but it's also confirmed he will be president
of the club again, indeed with the support of the new owners
source, link ?

source, link ?

yes, sure! there are a lot of links and news about it in the spanish media. Today at 18h there is a conference from Soriano (the new president) to inform about it.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1470/2009eneroestadio04.jpg

yes, sure! there are a lot of links and news about it in the spanish media. Today at 18h there is a conference from Soriano (the new president) to inform about it.

What is 18h? A Spanish TV channel?

What is 18h? A Spanish TV channel?

Are you serious? :nuts: 18:00h or 6 o' clock PM.

Wait, so did they resume the construction yet?

Wait, so did they resume the construction yet?

no, not yet. I will let you know this evening what has been said from 18.00h

http://www.armadanaranja.com/?p=352

Vicente Soriano is now the new owner of Valencia CF.

He has purchased 51% of Valencia shares with the aid of an American investment group whose identity is still anonymous.

Vicente Soriano purchased the shares owned by former president Juan Soler and Vicente Silla.

All this have happened following a month of Manuel Llorente in power.

Soriano intends to regain power at the helms of Valencia CF.

He will be making an official return at a press conference scheduled for Monday,

Someone says that people from Bertolin (the contruction company that is in charge of building up the stadium) have been informed that the construction will resume in 2/3 weeks!!!

Ah ok, thnx for the update ;)

Sounds like fantastic news then. This will be a truly stunning stadium once it's completed.

Are you serious? :nuts: 18:00h or 6 o' clock PM.

LOL. I'm serious. I never thought it means time :bash:

Tonight 19:30 pm GMT +1, Vicente Soriano will give a press conference discussing the issue of the Investor Group. The coming weeks could resume works on the stadium.

Sources:

Las Provincias newspaper (http://valenciacf.lasprovincias.es/noticias/2009-07-06/soriano-asegura-millones-venta-20090706.html)

Superdeporte (http://www.superdeporte.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009070600_2_65792__Valencia-CF-empresario-tiene-pactados-cinco-presidencia)

LOL. I'm serious. I never thought it means time :bash:

:lol:

1 or 2 more hours left!!! (Depends on the time there in Spain. I have no idea what it is :ohno:)

1 or 2 more hours left!!! (Depends on the time there in Spain. I have no idea what it is :ohno:)

GMT +2?

in 45min it will be 19.30 :)

30 more minutes :D

30 more minutes :D

no no...it started 30min ago :) but nothing released yet!:bash:

well, Soriano asks to keep all the football players. The investors are called Dalport S.A. Inversiones but he does not mention who is on the lead of that company. Furthermore, he says that the area where the actual stadium is located has been sold for 500 millions of euros!!! The construction of the new stadium will resume (he does not say when) and it will be opened as planned!

In spanish:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/07/06/valencia/1246903950.html

So Valencia's last season at the Mestella will be the upcoming year?

well, Soriano asks to keep all the football players. The investors are called Dalport S.A. Inversiones but he does not mention who is on the lead of that company. Furthermore, he says that the area where the actual stadium is located has been sold for 500 millions of euros!!! The construction of the new stadium will resume (he does not say when) and it will be opened as planned!

In spanish:

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/07/06/valencia/1246903950.html

That would be great news. :) But selling the area where the current Mestalla is for € 500 million in these times smells a bit like unbelievable and too good to be true to me. Especially since Spain is hit very hard with the current crisis. But is Spain many things are possible in football which would be impossible in many other countries. Sometimes that a good thing, but sometimes......

Still I am happy to see this stadium finished and to see Valencia play in it. :)

In Valencia we still do not believe anything. Do not Find any information about Dalport. There is speculation that it might be a maneuver to slow the expansion of capital.

Its good to hear that they are at least going to resume the construction, doesn't really matter when but still thats good news :D

DALPORT S.A., the new owner of Valencia CF

http://www.levante-emv.com/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009070700_11_609306__Deportes-Dalport-nuevo-propietario-Valencia

DALPORT S.A., the new owner of Valencia CF

http://www.levante-emv.com/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009070700_11_609306__Deportes-Dalport-nuevo-propietario-Valencia

Can you please translate the text and post it here on this thread??

Can you please translate the text and post it here on this thread??

as you please... :)

Valencia CF-SAD has received the documentation that certificates the shares transaction of the organization in favor of the company Inversiones Dalport SA, that it owns more than the fifty percent of the share capital of the organization.

They also informed they have received a formal request of call of extraordinary general meeting of shareholders of the organization.

Monday afternoon, Vicente Soriano, who presided the club during eleven months until the first days of June, announced that this company controls that amount of shares and that was going to invest five hundred million Euros in the club, which gave economic viability to the organization.

Previously, Soriano had informed to the president of the Valencia, Manuel Llorente, that this operation had been realised and it had asked to him verbally a meeting resquest of shareholders to conform a new advice of administration in the club and to revoke the extension of capital that formally begins tomorrow.

From these two proposals there is already a document certainty today, although the date of celebration of the general stockholders' meeting has not settled down, whowhich could be celebrated before thirty days, according to the same sources. The meeting will hold thirty days after the administration advice.

I hope the translation is good enough! I did my best! :)

^^ Thnx, now it makes more sense ;)

I like the new Nou Mestalla. I saw in a few days a report on Discovery Channel about the new stadium. They said the roof is against fire or something about that... Somebody could explain better? Gracias.

I like the new Nou Mestalla. I saw in a few days a report on Discovery Channel about the new stadium. They said the roof is against fire or something about that... Somebody could explain better? Gracias.


Do you mean this documental?

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For those who are not familiar with the situation of Valencia and Nou Mestalla.

The key to resume the works on the new stadium is selling the terrain where Old Mestalla is located. The debt is huge so no matter what else is done, the key is selling those terrain (that are worth 500 M€ according to the club).

Now Soriano (the former president) and a misterious company are the major shareholders and have stated they have found somebody who will pay those 500 M€ (which would erase most of the debt and allow works to be resumed).

The problem is that Soriano in the past has said exactly the same thing several times and it was proven to be false in the end, so it's normal that fans don't trust too much on him.

Let's see if this time it's finally true and we can see this great stadium finished soon, but I am afraid that it's almost impossible to find somebody willing to pay 500 million € in these times (some sources said the club would accept any offer above 250-300 million some weeks ago).

Now Soriano (the former president) and a misterious company are the major shareholders and have stated they have found somebody who will pay those 500 M€ (which would erase most of the debt and allow works to be resumed).



It is not that they have found someone who is going to pay 500M eur. That money would come from that company formed by a group of investors but we do not know yet who is behind this company. In the next days they say that will prove they have all that money.

What is the latest on Nou Mestalla? Construction still on hold?

for now yes...lot of news coming from the new investor (Inversiones DALPORT)! almost no one trust them! lot of suspicuos thins around them...let´s see what happens! I will keep you posted as soon as the construction resumes! ;)

The works could be resumed in September.

The stadium would open for the 2010-2011 season, on a provisional basis, without being completed.

Source: Superdeporte (http://www.superdeporte.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009071700_2_66841__Valencia-CF-obras-reviviran-tras-verano).

The works could be resumed in September.

The stadium would open for the 2010-2011 season, on a provisional basis, without being completed.

Source: Superdeporte (http://www.superdeporte.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009071700_2_66841__Valencia-CF-obras-reviviran-tras-verano).

It's such a shame that construction has halted. Viewing the progress from when construction started up until July has been very interesting. Would it be save to say that the longer construction is halted, the more it will cost to complete?

The works could be resumed in September.

The stadium would open for the 2010-2011 season, on a provisional basis, without being completed.

Source: Superdeporte (http://www.superdeporte.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pRef=2009071700_2_66841__Valencia-CF-obras-reviviran-tras-verano).

Are you sure that if the construction resumes in september, will they be able to finish the stadium by August 2010??? Seems too soon to me, especially because of the economical crisis that's currently occurring.

If the three tiers of the old Mestalla stadium were in the same alignment all around the pitch, we wouldn't even be building his new stadium.

If the three tiers of the old Mestalla stadium were in the same alignment all around the pitch, we wouldn't even be building his new stadium.

You really think that's why they're having a new stadium built?

I don't know why Valencia are having a new stadium built. I hear they have a megalomanic owner so that's probably got something to do with it.

I do know one thing though. They don't need it. Valencia's average attendance last season was about 38,000. Their current stadium holds 52,000 which means it's perfectly adequate, at least in terms of capacity. If they wanted more VIP suites they should've built a smaller new stadium or added them to the existing one.

modern stadium, roof, better seats, better restrooms, lounges, more suites
-> more fans / better average

And the grass of the old stadium is in awful conditions :lol:

I don't know why Valencia are having a new stadium built. I hear they have a megalomanic owner so that's probably got something to do with it.

I do know one thing though. They don't need it. Valencia's average attendance last season was about 38,000. Their current stadium holds 52,000 which means it's perfectly adequate, at least in terms of capacity. If they wanted more VIP suites they should've built a smaller new stadium or added them to the existing one.

Besides reasons listed by Sercan:

1) There is a waiting list of 10,000 supporters that want to become shareholders and have their own seat at the stadium. So this means, they would need at least 65,000 seats (irrespectively if they attend to see the matches or not)

2) The old Mestalla cannot be refurbished again and what is more, there is a sentence issued by Supreme court declaring illegal the previous upgrade (from 49,000 to current 55,000). So, it (the upgraded tiers) has to be demolished.

And the grass of the old stadium is in awful conditions :lol:

yes, you are right.:) Everybody noticed the poor condition of Valencia's grass pitch in last Sunday match vs Seville.

Valencia had already planned to renew the pitch in the Old Mestalla and in fact, they started to remove the grass layer yesterday and will be replaced with rolls of new turf.

http://www.valenciacf.com/contenidos/Actualidad/Noticias/2009/08/Noticia_19233.html?__locale=es

^^All true but now they have an even bigger problem. A half-built and unusable stadium that they cannot afford.

I hope one day they will reconstruct the old mestalla stadium, and maybe it will be the reserve stadium of Valencia fc.

its such a shame that the new yet to be completed stadium is standing there idol. I hope they resume work on the stadium really fast. fingers crossed it gets completed very soon.

I don't know why Valencia are having a new stadium built. I hear they have a megalomanic owner so that's probably got something to do with it.

I do know one thing though. They don't need it. Valencia's average attendance last season was about 38,000. Their current stadium holds 52,000 which means it's perfectly adequate, at least in terms of capacity. If they wanted more VIP suites they should've built a smaller new stadium or added them to the existing one.

I think it might have more to do with the fact the the current stadium is falling apart.

Please keep the old Mestalla, and let them use it a couple of games a year. And maybe for other purposes like concerts... It's a classic beauty!

i like this project!!

You guys are really funny. So, you want Valencia to keep a stadium that they'll never use and pay for all the maintenance all those years?

And the grass of the old stadium is in awful conditions :lol:

Is it? I remember a game back in 2006 between Valencia and Barcelona when Ronaldinho thanked the pitch guy for an excellent work.

My problem is not with Valencia building a new stadium per se. It's that they've gone and over reached themselves on a project that is financially beyond them. What they should've done is build a new stadium with, say, 50,000 seats (and stuffed full of VIP boxes). However, build it so that it is relatively easy to expand should extra capacity be required. Several English teams have done this (Sunderland, Middlesborough) and it worked pretty well for them.

^^ That would limit the architectural quality of the stadium dramatically. Valencia should have secured the financing first before they started the construction of the stadium. ;)

^^ That would limit the architectural quality of the stadium dramatically. Valencia should have secured the financing first before they started the construction of the stadium. ;)

You mean to tell me they didn't think of that before? Who the hell's running this project? You don't build a barbeque let alone a large stadium without ensuring that you have the money to pay for it.

It might have limited the architectural quality of the stadium but it would have been more affordable.

You mean to tell me they didn't think of that before? Who the hell's running this project? You don't build a barbeque let alone a large stadium without ensuring that you have the money to pay for it.

Yes, that is what I mean. For such a big project the financing must be secured before you start construction. Most likely the ones running the show in Valencia calculated themselves richer then they were/are. The money they would get of the grounds where the current Mestalla is, is outrageously high. No way they were going that get that money. And then came the economic crisis which made the situation worse.

In Rotterdam a new Feyenoord Stadium is being planned. The city (which will probably pay up to 33% of the construction costs) will make sure that the financing is 100% sure before they hand out the building permit. That is how it should be to avoid situation like we now sadly enough see in Valencia. :(

It might have limited the architectural quality of the stadium but it would have been more affordable.

It would made for a totally different and much simpler designed stadium. Of course it would have been more affordable. ;)

Let´s be hounest, the financial wheather the club sailed into is not the easiest either. They had/have the plot of the old stadium which still needs to be sold.
This is not the easy to sell for a reasonable price these days.
Money that for years would have been a sure thing, because of the crisis suddenly isn´t any more.
That Valencia is overplaying it´s hand is something which has been the case for years. They wanted to make the connection with the big 2. Something which I think is imposseble on a permanant base. (damn my english is bad, can´t they install a standard spelling corrector?)

Any news? Has construction started again?

They based the construction costs on future revenues, which is always a risky thing to do.

omg, lol, I completely forgot about this stadium since there wasn't any updates :lol: but seriously, when are they planning to resume the construction?

hoooo i though they were resuming construction.. :ohno:

cancelled or not?
How can people be so stupid to plan a stadium without measuring real global cost and reversible economic context :ohno:

^^ axelferis this is football we are talking about here, when has business sense ever come into it?

we are talking about constructions of stadiums and it's a shame this could happen!!

^^ axelferis this is football we are talking about here, when has business sense ever come into it?

football clubs are run as businesses. how else do you manage these kind of projects? if the money isn't there, you can't build. if a project isn't sustainable, it's a risk.

^^ axelferis this is football we are talking about here, when has business sense ever come into it?

Huh?
Business came into football a long time ago.

Where do you think the money came to build your little stadium? ;)

^^ Don't you know that bigbossman misses the Original Arsenal Stadium ?

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5446/acvforo.jpg
Picture by sld_vlc

They plan to resume the construction within the first 3 months of 2010

^^ That's finally some good news, the stadium will look great with those skyscrapers once it will be completed :)

within the first 3 month of 2010? Not the first 3 decades of next century?

^^:lol:

They "plan"...We just have to wait and see.

Yes, they PLAN since the have to "solve" their finantial situation first...

I am quite sure they will resume the construction in jan-mar 2010 because another delay would not allow them to play in this stadium in 2010-2011 and it is translated into a lot of income..they need that money asap.

wouldn't it be better to wait 2-3 years
after the economic crises they can get more money from old mestalla

i think this project is already a cimetery!!
R.I.P Valencia

(2007->2009) " it was a beautiful story, rest in peace in our minds"....

^^ :lol:

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5446/acvforo.jpg
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They plan to resume the construction within the first 3 months of 2010

hopefully they can finish this excellent stadium,

it looks strange to have such a dense urban cluster, with rural areas very close.

i think this project is already a cimetery!!
R.I.P Valencia

(2007->2009) " it was a beautiful story, rest in peace in our minds"....

Luckly you are wrong... :)

it looks strange to have such a dense urban cluster, with rural areas very close.

This dense urban cluster used to be a rural area look 10 years ago. Valencia is well known because of the agriculture areas around the city and unfortunately or not it is one of the limits that does not allow to expand the city because that area is protected. That is why the projects are building with quite some height.

I was really looking forward to seeing this built. I hope it starts in the next year or 2

even if the football players have to work there they will!:D It will resume the construction at the begining of 2010...you will see! ;)

This dense urban cluster used to be a rural area look 10 years ago. Valencia is well known because of the agriculture areas around the city and unfortunately or not it is one of the limits that does not allow to expand the city because that area is protected. That is why the projects are building with quite some height.

that makes sense, I think is excellent to concentrate most of the building, services, transportation in one single or small area, is cheaper on the long run and more ecofriendly

Looking foward for construction resume.

it's true that in spain people doesn't care that the stadiums are in the city(Madrid,Barcelone,Bilbao)! They apreciate! It would not be the case elsewhere in Europe!

Lets hope they complete it. It's a shame how its unfinished, the elements like sun hopefully wont age it when they re-start contruction.

any news when they gonna restart?

any news when they gonna restart?

Dude, read the comments on this page :bash:

Today, they have announced oficially that works will resume in early January 2010

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^^ Good news. Nou Mestalla is one of the best future stadiums.

yay im happy they will commence completion of this magnifico stadium :banana:

big news!

Yeah finally.

Let's hope we will soon sit in that nice stadium to enjoy some nice goals.

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since they stopped construction earlier this year I took interest in the South African stadium for the world cup. Now that most of there stadia are pretty much completed I can get hyped about Valencia. Nice timing :)

There is an official press release saying that the contruction will resume in January (2010:))

I found this pics of the actual situation:

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/dutch_mentor/mestalla4.jpg?t=1262563172

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/dutch_mentor/mestalla3.jpg?t=1262563221

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/dutch_mentor/mestalla2.jpg?t=1262563253

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss88/dutch_mentor/mestalla1.jpg?t=1262563332

http://www.urbanity.es/2010/impulso-al-estadio-nou-mestalla-del-valencia-c-f/

Well...23 days to go. Let´s wait and see! My team tried to have some Valencia players to they save some money but they didn´t want to :lol:

Any movement yet?

Yea , really ? Anything ? :ohno:

wonderful stadium

Construction will resume in March. Probably.

Spain is quite a rich country, I can't believe that they are not able to build this stadium. I mean, Ukraine, one of the poorest countries of Europe, is currently building 3 stadiums simultaneously, 4 new airport terminals, more hotels etc. They even managed to build the 5-star Donbass-Arena during the crisis (The president of the football club who owns this stadium paid for the entire stadiums construction).

wonderful stadium

Terrible stadium in my view, hopefully never finally constructed.

Terrible stadium in my view, hopefully never finally constructed.

:eek:


One of my favourite stadiums, can't wait to see it finished :master:

Spain is quite a rich country, I can't believe that they are not able to build this stadium. I mean, Ukraine, one of the poorest countries of Europe, is currently building 3 stadiums simultaneously, 4 new airport terminals, more hotels etc. They even managed to build the 5-star Donbass-Arena during the crisis (The president of the football club who owns this stadium paid for the entire stadiums construction).

Spain isn't organiseing european championship like Ukraine. If that was the case you would see this stadium storming towards completion.

And for the 100th time I've to say that that 4 and 5 star rating doesn't exist anymore. And even if it did, one stadium needed to bid for an European final to enter that list.

The stadium is from capacity aspects too big for Valencia, and it looks like they overreach. Megalomania, not unusual for spanish people, maybe still think they are in colonialism, another reason to grant them the current situation:lol:

The stadium is from capacity aspects too big for Valencia, and it looks like they overreach. Megalomania, not unusual for spanish people, maybe still think they are in colonialism, another reason to grant them the current situation:lol:Too big? There is a waiting list for season tickets so it is not too big at all. All the big matches will sell out at this stadium. Valencia is never going to average 70k, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need a bigger stadium. The stadium will bring in lots of income when it is completed.

Why do they still hesitate to sell David Villa? They have to sell him and get right back to work. More than a year have passed since the construction was stopped. The work is stopped longer than done. If this were the case of Barcelona, they should have to sell even Lionel Messi. My conclusion : Nou Mestalla >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Villa

Too big? There is a waiting list for season tickets so it is not too big at all. All the big matches will sell out at this stadium. Valencia is never going to average 70k, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need a bigger stadium. The stadium will bring in lots of income when it is completed.

The current average attendance of FC Valencia is by 46`000 spectators
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia_CF#Statistics_and_records
Why do they need almost 30`000 additional seats?
Why does a club with so much encumuburances wants to build a new stadium like this? They should first sell their money back, before finalize the stadium.

You should not look at the current attendance only. Better stadium attracts more people to stadium. 73.3K is quite reasonal for Valencia.

Yes. IMo average attendance will be around 60-65k.

Spain is quite a rich country, I can't believe that they are not able to build this stadium. I mean, Ukraine, one of the poorest countries of Europe, is currently building 3 stadiums simultaneously, 4 new airport terminals, more hotels etc. They even managed to build the 5-star Donbass-Arena during the crisis (The president of the football club who owns this stadium paid for the entire stadiums construction).
Spanish goverment has nothing to do to build this stadium nor local goverment has. Valencia football club is a private company so no public taxes are allowed to build this construction.

You're lucky if a supermillionaire can pay his own toy and you all can enjoy it.

Why do they still hesitate to sell David Villa? They have to sell him and get right back to work. More than a year have passed since the construction was stopped. The work is stopped longer than done. If this were the case of Barcelona, they should have to sell even Lionel Messi. My conclusion : Nou Mestalla >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Villa

They must pay about 200 million Euros to complete the stadium. The sale of Villa would not resolve this issue.

The stadium will be opened without the roof (except the grandstand)
http://www.superdeporte.es/valencia/2010/01/30/estadio-tendra-techo-tribuna-momento/85503.html

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2127/46370398.png

Spain is quite a rich country, I can't believe that they are not able to build this stadium. I mean, Ukraine, one of the poorest countries of Europe, is currently building 3 stadiums simultaneously, 4 new airport terminals, more hotels etc. They even managed to build the 5-star Donbass-Arena during the crisis (The president of the football club who owns this stadium paid for the entire stadiums construction).

hm as far as I can remember the EU had to chip in money to Ukraine to complete some of its stadiums...since Ukraine could not afford to finance them by itself.

does this mean that the roof will be compromised?

^^
Valencia CF decided at the last meeting to complete the construction of the stadium in two phases. During the first phase, construction will be done to ensure that the team can begin to play their games at the new field and the roof will be built in that grandstand area, which we call inner skin. This will enable the club to increase their income and, incidentally, sell the land on the old stadium. During the second phase roof will be completed as it is in the initial project, but at the last council meeting it was decided that the impressive structure that supports the outer shell is built around the building during the first phase.

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to be honest all they should of done is renovated the current stadium...by leveling out all the stands and then adding a modern roof...maybe some outside work as well...probably would of cost less and they could of saved themselves the embarrassment of not being able to finish the new stadium.

as far as i know current one is too small and i think 3rd tier is illegal

hm as far as I can remember the EU had to chip in money to Ukraine to complete some of its stadiums...since Ukraine could not afford to finance them by itself.

Why would the EU do that? Ukraine is not even a candidate or potential candidate country like Turkey or Croatia. Transfer of payments within the EU is a sensitive subject (look at the whole Greece thing) never mind giving money anyway to non-member states for stadia construction! The only thing the EU might do/have done is provide loans via its development bank (or whatever it is called), but even this is normally reserved for infrastructure projects within the Union, such as London's East London Line extension.

Valencia CF decided at the last meeting to complete the construction of the stadium in two phases. During the first phase, construction will be done to ensure that the team can begin to play their games at the new field and the roof will be built in that grandstand area, which we call inner skin. This will enable the club to increase their income and, incidentally, sell the land on the old stadium. During the second phase roof will be completed as it is in the initial project, but at the last council meeting it was decided that the impressive structure that supports the outer shell is built around the building during the first phase.


How much money are they saving by doing this? Also, have they actually agreed on a buyer for the old ground? iirc the problem for Valencia was that they had already committed to getting loans for the new stadium without having sold off the land for the old one meaning they are stuck with two grounds. With the current economic situation aren't they going to have to settle for a significant amount less than projected for the Mestalla? What about if they sell off their training ground and lease it back? Might help in the short term.

Kerouac I see you're funnelling the info to the guardian website!

lol, not the first time! I should really be continuing with job hunting rather than blogging here and there......

Do they have some new estimated time, when Valencia could start playing here? And have they now started again the constructing..any news?

:deadthrea

It is estimated that in one year may complete the stadium works. It is expected that work will resume in April. Therefore could be completed in April-May 2011, in time to start the season 2011-2012.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=52763825#post52763825

the extra fianances from the stadium should help valencia compete with real madrid and barcelona in la liga and the champions league

Haha Spain is so f..... mañana mañana!!!
Great idea to complete the stadium without the roof. I like stadiums without a roof better anyway. For the rich and fat a little one maybe.
As I understand it is nesesary to build the structure of the entire roof allready because it´s supports the third ring? If not I would wait with that also. Then you realy save money to start with.

Edit I read wrong. If they want to do that part later, the stadium would have to be closed for several months.
Nonsense offcourse, because who says you would have to do the rest in one time...

http://foto-cache.lasprovincias.es/resizer/resizer.php?imagen=/deliverty/demo/resources/jpg/9/7/1268413917679.jpg

http://foto-cache.lasprovincias.es/resizer/resizer.php?imagen=/deliverty/demo/resources/jpg/6/9/1268413916096.jpg

Fantastic photos! :)

Maybe, but are they building?
Why is it that stadiums without a roof look better?

Maybe, but are they building?
Why is it that stadiums without a roof look better?

because they look more american :banana: :banana:

because they look more american :banana: :banana:

How does that make it good?

Nice pictures. I like more with roof.

http://www.valenciacf.com/export/sites/default/contenidos/galerias/NuevoEstadio/012.jpg

http://www.valenciacf.com/en/NuevoEstadio/NuevoEstadioVirtual.html