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FC Barcelona

21x Champion:
1929, 1945, 1948, 1949, 1952,
1953, 1959, 1960, 1974, 1985,
1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998,
1999, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010,
2011

25x Cup Winner (record):
1910, 1912, 1913, 1920, 1922,
1925, 1926, 1928, 1942, 1951,
1952, 1953, 1957, 1959, 1963,
1968, 1971, 1978, 1981, 1983,
1988, 1990, 1997, 1998, 2009

10x Supercup (record):
1983, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1996,
2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011

4x UEFA Champions League:
1992, 2006, 2009, 2011

4x UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (record):
1979, 1982, 1989, 1997

4x UEFA Super Cup:
1992, 1997, 2009, 2011

2x FIFA Club World Cup:
2009, 2011







http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/catalonia/barcelona_camp_nou1.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/catalonia/barcelona_camp_nou2.jpg

Awesome

has to be my fave stadium in the world - bar none (lucky bastards).

Have a look

http://www.stadionwelt.de/Stadionwelt-Stadien-Arenen/Stadionlisten/Stadionlisten_Spanien/FC_Barcelona/NouCamp_01.html

The bowl is very impressive, but the outside is hideous, and the facilities are not up to 21st century standards.

This stadium (and club) has an immense hold on the imagination of the British football public, but I don't fully understand why. The same doesn't seem to be true of other non-Spaniards. When I visited the museum, perhaps more than a third of the visitors were British, but most of the others seemed to be Spanish.

The bowl is very impressive, but the outside is hideous, and the facilities are not up to 21st century standards

Magnificent stadiums earn their reputation based on character, and this one oozes with it. It is a true classic that has withstood the test of time. I hope that they never replace it.

I think its great. A real stadium's stadium

Very impressive and a fantastic atmosphere when I was last there. Well designed too. I sat in the top teir behind one of the goals and never felt too far from the action.

In terms of spectator comfort/facilities/amenities etc though it's terrible. I can think of at least 20 grounds in the UK that are more comfortable but none with a better atmosphere.

For a stadium with everything may I suggest you look a few miles west to Madrid? Wow, what a stadium.

It's big alright...but not much else.

Yes, the stadium is great...

BuT, as Philip states it, its facilities should be renewed. Most of the façade is far from being beautifull.

Right now, however the club is negotiating with the neighbours and the city hall to readapt many outdated facilities and transform some areas into hotels, offices, or whatever.

Depended that on me, I would change the external look, but the playground and seats are just perfect the way they're now. ;)

Its true, anyone who has been there will see that its a bit of a dump really. The facilities inside are like the old wembley, or hillsborough in the away end!

Good pano:

http://www.cd-man.net/secciones/fiesta/100/cn.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/catalonia/barcelona_camp_nou1.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/catalonia/barcelona_camp_nou2.jpg


i been der it look small from outside but it aint.
they say it 102,000 seater not 98,000
worldstadiums.com is WRONG

Year 1974:

http://tu.auna.es/personal/8/8/aquarius/imagenes/album/1974b.jpg

Year 1982

http://tu.auna.es/personal/8/8/aquarius/imagenes/album/1982.JPGhttp://tu.auna.es/personal/8/8/aquarius/imagenes/album/1982222222.jpg


Year 2000

http://tu.auna.es/personal/8/8/aquarius/imagenes/album/2000.JPGhttp://tu.auna.es/personal/8/8/aquarius/imagenes/album/2002.JPG

To me, the best one

http://www.members.lycos.nl/barcafc/Camp_Nou_fotos.jpg


http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~nkon/masomenos/stadiumphoto/spain/DSCF1611.jpg


http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~nkon/masomenos/stadiumphoto/spain/DSCF1619.jpg


http://www4.ocn.ne.jp/~nkon/masomenos/stadiumphoto/spain/DSCF1500.jpg


http://home.pages.at/funkycold/Barca/stadion20.jpg



http://www.feinekerlekoeln.de/Fotos_und_Berichte/Barcelona_0303/Barcelona_010.jpg

there are an plan to expend the stadium, only on the west side of the stadium.

I love it. Its on my to visit list.

Well itxlan7, you should post some pics of the other sides of the stadium too. Not only the nice facade at the front where there's the museum and the fan-shop. The rest of the facade really looks crappy. Only concrete. No architecture. And the immediate surroundings of the stadium are quite dirty, too. The stadium is just old. Not 21st century standard.
And I think that the stadium looks small from the outside, considering the enormous capacity. The interior, however, is one of the most impressive I've ever seen.

To people who hasnt heard of this stadium before....im sure to them its rubbish.

The place is cramped and most of the outside is less that attractive.

To people who hasnt heard of this stadium before....im sure to them its rubbish.

The place is cramped and most of the outside is less that attractive.


It's not because the Camp Nou is not in England that you have to tell crap, come on!! This stadium is mighty, the biggest in Europe. Of course the outside looks a bit old, but it doesn't matter, coz you're supposed to be inside the stadium to watch a game, not outside.
I was there two weeks ago and I was amazed honestly, it's really huge.

The most impressive stadium i know

Some Pics from 1999
http://biffe.de/box_fussball/barcelona/4_vorspiel.jpg
http://biffe.de/box_fussball/barcelona/7_spiel.jpg

Stadium postcard
http://biffe.de/box_fussball/barcelona/barcelona_nou_camp.jpg

It's not because the Camp Nou is not in England that you have to tell crap, come on!! This stadium is mighty, the biggest in Europe. Of course the outside looks a bit old, but it doesn't matter, coz you're supposed to be inside the stadium to watch a game, not outside.
I was there two weeks ago and I was amazed honestly, it's really huge.


Thats not crap come on...

and I didnt say I thought it was rubbish, I said people who havnt heard of the stadium before....

The place is cramped, and does need a polish....yeah its big...but not pretty.

And in my time on here i've learnt....History means f'all

Still out of 10 I would give it an 8

Any pictures of the proposed extension? Are they turning it into a full bowl? Will it have a roof?

That's a big stadium! Must be a shame if it rains though and no shelter from the sun.

Any pictures of the proposed extension? Are they turning it into a full bowl? Will it have a roof?

I spoke to several season ticket holders about a month ago regarding this very issue, in their opinion it's not going to happen soon, some doubting whether is is even needed and whether it will ever go ahead. Commisioning an architect is one thing, doing something with their vision/plans is something else.

That's a big stadium! Must be a shame if it rains though and no shelter from the sun.

They mainly play at night.

It very rarely rains, most Spanish Stadia not in the North/Atlantic Coast are like that. The amount of times it rains does not justify the cost of covering the stadia.

When it does rain though, it can cause havoc, especially in a stadium such as Camp Nou where the pitch is lower than ground level, and also has something other than drains beneath the pitch.

Wasn't the Barca-Newcastle Champions League match there a few years back postponed to Thursday because the pitch was waterlogged on the Wednesday because it was pissing down, and they had to refund all the traveling Newcastle fans who had to return home? If my memory serves me correctly.

I've seen United play Valencia at the Mestalla (thankfully I was under the roof section with the posh home support) and the match went ahead despite the heavy rain. It was like playing on a saturated sponge.

I still think it's the best. I know it's ugly for the outside, but that matters not. It's all about the inside. And those stands still look magnificent.

I spoke to several season ticket holders about a month ago regarding this very issue, in their opinion it's not going to happen soon, some doubting whether is is even needed and whether it will ever go ahead. Commisioning an architect is one thing, doing something with their vision/plans is something else.
Barca's average crowd this season(when you'd think it would be at its highest given their sucess) was 73,000 although they did get a 98,000 capcity crowd at least once(verus Real I'd expect) so their might be some grounds for extension there.

If Spain were to host a World Cup/European Championship sometime in the future I'd guess it could be worthwhile aswell, espeically if they got the final. Tickets for the final of germany 2006 are being sold for around £300-400 each so that would potentially pay for £6-8 million of the extension costs at the drop of a hat if they add an extra 20,000 seats. Ontop of that you've got the fact that a revamped Nou Camp would be pretty much certain to get a champs league final.

They mainly play at night.

It very rarely rains, most Spanish Stadia not in the North/Atlantic Coast are like that. The amount of times it rains does not justify the cost of covering the stadia.

I'd say its more a case of them being able to get away with it in the past, there does seem to be a movement towards covered stadia in spain right now though. Also in Barca's case if they want to make the stadium into a bowl you'd think they'd have to take down the existing roofed area, a good oportunity to roof the entire stadium IMHO.

ITS SO HUGE I JUST LOVE IT

Spain is like the U.S. in the roof aspect. Its also a hot and sunny country where the rains are too hard for most dinky roofs you see out there that are made for mists or what would be considered a sprinkle. I'd imagine the Spanish people enjoy their sun a lot too. Its simply a weird concept to many in the world to shield themselves from the sun. Especially in places where people love to "play" outside. If you are talking about serious desert heat, that is something different, as most roofs in sunny countries are in places with hard rain, super extreme cold or super extreme heat like in Phoenix.

Rain drainage is something different altogether. A simply pipe under pitch can solve this, not an audience pitch.

Spain is like the U.S. in the roof aspect. Its also a hot and sunny country where the rains are too hard for most dinky roofs you see out there that are made for mists or what would be considered a sprinkle.

Rain can punch though steel in the US?

In the much of the U.S. when it rains you can get:

- Hail and lots of it. Enough to damage cars, homes, windows, hurt people, etc. Many stadium roofs have been damaged.
- Flash flooding. Enough rain, falling hard enough to flood very rapidly. I know this happens everywhere occasionally, but it is a normal occurance in places like Texas. It happens multiple times per yer causing tons of damage.
- Tornadoes or high force straight line winds. Don't have to say much here. If this happens, game cancelled no matter the sport. The U.S. has by far more than anywhere else.
- Lightning. The U.S. again has more of this than anywhere. Lightning storms are normal from Spring to Autumn in many parts of the U.S. If a lightning storm is in the area, game over.
- Hurricanes or Tropical Storms. Again, if this is in the area, game over. Like Asian coast of Pacific, the Atlantic and Gulf coasts of the U.S. see many of these each year. If this is happening, its no use playing a game even in a dome as the cars or people going to the game will be damaged.
- Blizzard snow storms in the upper midwest. Unless you are totally indoors, a roof does nothing for blowing snow or extreme cold. In many cases, piling snow has caused roof collapse.
- Light snow shower. See the above. Roofs alone don't stop the cold.
- On the other hand you have places like Phoenix that are desert hot and the sun is actually harmful. Accordingly their football and baseball stadiums are fully retractable, as stagnant hot air would not be that pleasant in daily 40C temps reflected off of bright desert floor.

Otherwise it is normally dry even when cloudy. People in the U.S. love the sun. Tanning is a huge industry even far away from the beaches. And beaches themselves really clean up. It sounds very odd to us for someone to say "no shelter from the sun". I imagine Spaniards would feel the same way, it being such an outdoor and sunny nation.

I can understand the possibility of high winds of massive snowfalls causing problems but in terms of normal rainfall I can't see it being much of a problem.

I don't actually think the spainish are in the same position as many American teams either. For you a lack of roofed stadia is often a conscious choice driven either by the desire of the fans or as you stated the potential damage from extreme weather codictions. For the Spainish on the other hand I'd guess the lack of roofed stadia is down to cost of putting them up, that combined with the lower levels of rainfall they expereince means a move towards fully covered stadia has taken longer than in the rest of europe but it is happening.

I'd add that historically most stadia thoughout europe were without roofs until relatively recently. Whats caused the big shift in the last few decades is the move towards all seater grounds where as in the past 3/4 of most stadia would be standing room and its more pleasent to stand in the rain than it is to sit in it hence less need for roofs.

As I said, in the North/Atlantic (Bay of Biscay) coast where they get a lot of rainfall, the stadia do have rooves.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/galicia/la_coruna_riazor.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/galicia/vigo_balaidos.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/asturias/oviedo_carlos_tartiere1.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/asturias/gijon_el_molinon.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/cantabria/santander_el_sardinero.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/basque_country/bilbao_san_mames.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/basque_country/bilbao_san_mames.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/basque_country/vitoria_mendizorroza.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/navarre/pamplona_el_sadar.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/la_rioja/logrono_nuevo_estadio.jpg

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/castile_and_leon/salamanca_helmantico.jpg

The further south you go, the less roof you see in football stadia. This is not always the case for athletics or other sports stadia.

^^ that's not like this.well, barcelona is easter than those cities but not further south.
if barça stadium doesn´t have roof maybe is to keep the historical image of the stadium that was built without roofs

madrid is further south and its stadium have roofs

http://www.interunion.ru/spain/SB1.jpg

^ Real Madrid is the greatest football club in the world.And i think the stadium is nicer then the camp nou.At least from the outside.And the trophy museum has to be seen to be believed.I was very disapointed with Barcelonas trophy museum.

I'd guess Real's is covered because they can afford a roof, I seem to remmber someone posting a pic of a Real Betis stadium redevolpment with a full roof a few months ago aswell. What makes me think the lack of roofs is about cost/nessesity rather than choice is that most spainish stadiums do have a small section under cover, for exec seats I'd expect.

been there and loved it.. it´s massive and impressive.. de biggest one i´ve ever seen.. remind me about de old stadium of light when it had de capacity for 120000.. it´s a footbal symbol dont put a roof on it..
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/Luz.jpg
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/campo_benfica2.jpg
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/luz2.jpg
http://estadio.no.sapo.pt/luz_interactivo15.jpg

^^ that's not like this.well, barcelona is easter than those cities but not further south.
if barça stadium doesn´t have roof maybe is to keep the historical image of the stadium that was built without roofs

madrid is further south and its stadium have roofs

http://www.interunion.ru/spain/SB1.jpg

If you read what I said, I said "North/Atlantic Coast", the Mediterranian is a quite different storey altogether.

And as for the Bernabeu, roof coverage isn't exactly total is it? Basically it covers the top tier and nothing else. Doesn't give any protection from the rain at all!

http://www.darrenhelsby.co.uk/2003/Spain/Images/Bernabeu1_Large.jpg

Quite different to those North/Atlantic coast stadia that I already posted and to say:

http://www.unitedlinks.co.uk/neq.jpg

Most of those have 100% seat coverage or very close to 100%.

I'd guess the Bernabeu covers a good bit of the second level aswell considering how steep it is, also wasnt the bottom level standing space when the roof was added?

would potentially pay for £6-8 million of the extension costs at the drop of a hat if they add an extra 20,000 seats. Ontop of that you've got the fact that a revamped Nou Camp would be pretty much certain to get a champs league final.



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Sure upto 8m will be enough for the extension?

I'm a big fan of the Camp Nou, but it does need bringing upto date. Not unlike the San Siro(another great stadium)

I'd guess the Bernabeu covers a good bit of the second level aswell considering how steep it is, also wasnt the bottom level standing space when the roof was added?

Nope it doesn't cover the second tier. Also, you've got to remember that rain doesn't normally fall vertically. Even Old Trafford lower tiers get wet depending on which direction the wind is blowing in. And yes, it used to be around 106k before all seating, but it wasn't all seater until around 1999. The roof was added to 3/4 of the stadium for the World Cup in 82.

They do have plans to completely cover it BTW, Millenium Stadium style, but with a retractable glass roof. Don't know when that work will be finished.

Sure upto 8m will be enough for the extension?

I doubt it but it would certainly help, I was just bringing up ways the extension could pay for itself even though the current grounds only 3/4 full on average.

Are there more information about the extension of Camp Nou

^ Why on earth do you want to expand if you only had a full house once? Just for prestige???

I've never been to Camp Nou, when I was in Barcelona they played away, otherwise i'd definitely went to visit a game. I do know quite some people that visited matches, and they all told me that the atmosphere is pretty lame and that there are stadiums with 15.000 capacity where there's a lot more noise. I always thought that was weird to imagine...

If you read what I said, I said "North/Atlantic Coast", the Mediterranian is a quite different storey altogether.

And as for the Bernabeu, roof coverage isn't exactly total is it? Basically it covers the top tier and nothing else. Doesn't give any protection from the rain at all!

http://www.darrenhelsby.co.uk/2003/Spain/Images/Bernabeu1_Large.jpg

Quite different to those North/Atlantic coast stadia that I already posted and to say:

http://www.unitedlinks.co.uk/neq.jpg

Most of those have 100% seat coverage or very close to 100%.



the roof didn't cover all the stadium from the rain, but las year they constructed a new track of roof so i guess it covers all the stadium or at leat till the second tier

in fact, i have been in the second tier and it was under roof

for spanish forumers ( and others ) , does anyone have any news of the stadium expansion and when the project would be unveiled or if this still going on ? we have not had news since april or may , would fc barcelona have enough money to build a new arena and expand the stadium at the same time ?

New arena? Expand the stadium? I'm Spanish and I haven't heard nothing about it.

stadium expansion @ camp nou?
damn, I don't know how this is gonna look like, but it'll be one hell of a stadium; even more spectacular than it is already. awesome

one of the most impressive stadium in the world. An expansion , whatttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be really amazing

Never heard of such a thing...but hopefully it's true! :okay:

I have heard that de club president (laporta) talks with Ricardo Bofill, about extension works. Next year will unveil the club the design, maybe end of this year.

The extension is only on the lower side (Tribuna) of the stadium.

I was in 1994 in the club museum and saw a extension of the stadium, its was an model.

98,800 seats I dont think they need an expansion. To Barca fans, do they currently fill the ground?

98,800 seats I dont think they need an expansion. To Barca fans, do they currently fill the ground?

I'm not a Barca fan but.....

...the answer is no. Barca's average crowd this season is about 74,000, with the biggest attendance being 77,000 thus far.

Last year, the average attendance was 73,000, with the biggest attendance being 98,000. Before last season, Barca were averaging down in the sixty thousands, other than 2001-02, when the average attendance was 54,000.

So I wouldn't have thought that an increase in capacity was necessary.

I wonder if this isnt a bit of an stadium arms race with Real? They've added a few thousand more seats recently and are going to add a roof afterall.

They could I'd guess sell more than their current capacity for the game verus Real or home games in the latter stages of the CL but its hard to believe they would be worth the cost. I spose if they wanted to get another CL final or the final of any comp spain might host in the future(european championships most likely) then some modernisation might help, espeically a roof.

nou camp=king of stadia

The title's 'renovation', so if anything is going to happen to the Nou Camp I imagine it'll just be upgrading of some of the poorer facilities, perhaps adding more roof aswell. Although I wouldn't be surprise if they try to add a couple of thousand more seats to break the magic 100,000 barrier.

A model of Camp Nou with extension: http://community.webshots.com/photo/546590432/2169632350084723840gMFgJR

From the looks of it the idea is to increase the height of the 3rd tier on the current roofed side, a new roof for the same area and lots of extra facilities behind that stand. I'd love to see it as a giant bowl but that would need a total rebuilding of most of the exterior I'd guess so the above makes more sense.

MoreOrLess:
I saw this model in the early 90's, in de club museum of Barcelona. Now is de model reduced to the normal size. This for me the best extension in stadium history. I wait for it.

Bye Bye, MoreOrLess

so
there won't be a expansion?

Sercan:
Barca will add numerous of tiers above the extension roofline. As Espanyol have thier new home, named Estadio Cornella, they will demolished the Mini-Estadi and the Palau Blaugrana. She will build an new arena with 15.000 seats and expend the stadium.
Price 120 million euro.

The model is an old model, but it's verry impressive. They stood in the museum. The design was of hands from Nunes construction company. The new architect is Ricardo Bofill, with another design more of this time.

http://community.webshots.com/photo...084723840gMFgJR

OMG! how big is that we must be talking around 115,000 at min


:eek2:

2005:

118.000 seats is the plan, with private boxes.

That new stand won't add 20,000 extra seats.(the one linked)

No renovation or new stadium in the future, at least by now.
The things that will change are the sorroundings of the stadium. They plant to build a brand new arena for basket team.
News appeared this week so no rendering or images. And that's a project, an idea.

That new stand won't add 20,000 extra seats.(the one linked)

From what he's said thats a design from the early 90's not one there working on now. To add 20,000 more seat I'd guess they'd either have to do something similar but make the new teir much taller or make the entire stadium the same height.

As has been said before though the attendances don't seem to really point towards a need for a larger stadium.

From what he's said thats a design from the early 90's not one there working on now. To add 20,000 more seat I'd guess they'd either have to do something similar but make the new teir much taller or make the entire stadium the same height.

As has been said before though the attendances don't seem to really point towards a need for a larger stadium.


I see.

Well, yes, I agree. They'll have to continue the top tier all the way around at the same height, at the very least.

United's North Stand holds around 20,000. And that's a huge structure.

The Camp Nou should look like Invesco Field in Denver

http://www.seatdata.com/images/nfl_broncos/800x600/128.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/usa/invesco_field/120.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/usa/invesco_field/310.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/usa/invesco_field/110.jpg

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/usa/invesco_field/230.jpg

http://www.fussballtempel.net/concacaf/USA/Invesco_Field_A2.gif

From what he's said thats a design from the early 90's not one there working on now. To add 20,000 more seat I'd guess they'd either have to do something similar but make the new teir much taller or make the entire stadium the same height.

Impossible to build it higher. Three or four years ago Barça wanted to make the stadium bigger with more height but the city council didn't allow them to do it. That was when they "buried" the game field and build some more seats. I think that was the las ampliation in terms of seats made to the stadium.

Urban Dave:
The goverment of Barcelona will have the ground were the Mini-estadi stay. Barca say's, as we give the ground to the goverment, than we will expand the stadium. Thier are an conversation of both side's. The plan are verry serious, i mail them an half year ago. They say's, that i will fallow the official site of Barcelona for further plans.

That's not what has been published recently. They said that there are no plans to demolish Mini-Estadi.

Urban Dave:
Barca already spoken with architect Ricardo Bofill, to unveil there plans this year.

Urban Dave:
Barca already spoken with architect Ricardo Bofill, to unveil there plans this year.

Ricoardo Bofill :sleepy: :weirdo:

alekjandro:

Ricardo Bofill is the architect for the project, more information http://elentorno.com/noticia/20515/
An model:
http://community.webshots.com/photo...084723840gMFgJR

alekjandro:

Ricardo Bofill is the architect for the project, more information http://elentorno.com/noticia/20515/
An model:
http://community.webshots.com/photo...084723840gMFgJR

The web link works but it just says the file doesn't exist :bash:

2005:
is it now working: http://community.webshots.com/photo...084723840gMFgJR

Its not, that URL looks like its been shortened by the forum with those dots in the middle to me.

MoreOrLess:
This mine homepage on webshots, look in de photoalbum,
http://community.webshots.com/user/Massaar101

Oh sorry thought was another pic of the plans still thanks anyway

http://image50.webshots.com/50/6/32/35/2169632350084723840gMFgJR_ph.jpg

:eek2:

There are an conformation about the plans between the club and city council. The architect is make now the design of the new plans. The Camp Nou area and an new indoor arena wil the part of this plan. 120 million euro's to spend in the project.

Next week is the presentation of the plans, say's Sport newspaper:
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=279441&idseccio_PK=803&h=060211

Next week is the presentation of the plans, say's Sport newspaper:
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=279441&idseccio_PK=803&h=060211

Is the 15,000 mentioned there the arena or new seats for the main stadium?

With some updated facilties, bowl seating to the same height all the way round, a nice roof and a touched up exterior the Nou Camp could definately be competing for best stadium in the world IMHO(not that it was that far off before). At the very least it will be interesting to see what excuse the organisers come up with to use the Bernabeu for the next major tournament you bid for. ;)

Is the 15,000 mentioned there the arena or new seats for the main stadium?

With some updated facilties, bowl seating to the same height all the way round, a nice roof and a touched up exterior the Nou Camp could definately be competing for best stadium in the world IMHO(not that it was that far off before). At the very least it will be interesting to see what excuse the organisers come up with to use the Bernabeu for the next major tournament you bid for. ;)

15000 is for their new Arena. The mini stadium at the moment holds 16500 (built in 1982) and would be demolished and replaced by the Arena.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/catalonia/barcelona_mini_estadi.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/e4zb8

The construction works begin next year, with the expansion of camp nou.

:weird: They're not going to expand Camp Nou

The construction works begin next year, with the expansion of camp nou.

where are the infos and photos about this if the plans are genuine ?

Firstly they should renovate the interiors, I took a tour of Camp Nou in September 04 and the interiors were crap, even the presidential seats were crap, it's all rotten, they don't have snack bars for the fans, they sell food and drinks on stands like those we see on a public market. the stadium needs an extreme makeover

Firstly they should renovate the interiors, I took a tour of Camp Nou in September 04 and the interiors were crap, even the presidential seats were crap, it's all rotten, they don't have snack bars for the fans, they sell food and drinks on stands like those we see on a public market. the stadium needs an extreme makeover

Yep, i agree. I am surprised when lot of people say that they think the Nou Camp is the best stadium in europe, when obviously is not. capacity does not determine what is best.

I wait to long for the expansion plans, where Ricardo Bofill white his design.

Firstly they should renovate the interiors, I took a tour of Camp Nou in September 04 and the interiors were crap, even the presidential seats were crap, it's all rotten, they don't have snack bars for the fans, they sell food and drinks on stands like those we see on a public market. the stadium needs an extreme makeover

It's amazing how many European stadiums are empty like that. Even the newish Stade de France is the same. I thought exactly the same about Camp Nou when I went there about 6 years ago.
They appear to have refurbished the bowl area of the main stand (?) with some new seats (Red instead of the pink faded ones) and a coat of paint. When or if the rest is done, Camp Nou should look pretty decent. I wonder if the same can be said of the bar areas or exterior?

There are no real plans to renovate Camp Nou.

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20050430/NOTICIA195319039.html

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=175358753&size=l

http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=279441&idseccio_PK=803&h=060211

http://elentorno.com/noticia/20515/

http://elentorno.com/noticia/20515/
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There are no real plans to renovate Camp Nou.
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aCidMinD81:

Why is it not real, that Barca expand the stadium. Its an old stadium, old facade and an stadium of the previous decade. You see the lower side of the stadium, and you think is that the greatest Barcelona team of 2006. It is not an side white spirit.

They dont fill the ground so there is no need for expansion. The thing needed would be stuff like improving facilities, replacing seats every once in a while, redoing the interiors, better bars, tvs but you dont hear that type of stuff in the news or anything, it should be done all the time. It is a Old Trafford. During the last two seasons they have replaced most bars, re-painted, put in plasma screens all around the ground(created there own tv channel for match days, normally shows a live football game etc) etc etc.

Outside the Camp nou looks like a huge car park, concrete everywhere, open backs to the concourses and so on. When I went back in '99, the inside of the concourses were awful, just bare unpainted concrete everywhere. The interesting bits were seeing where the original stairwells went that have since been blocked up from previous expansions. Once in your bucket seat (no flip up seat back in '99) the view is superb but the rest is quite a dissapointment, so they would be better advised renovating the internal parts of the ground before adding more seats.

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/spanien/camp_nou/510.jpg

They dont fill the ground so there is no need for expansion. The thing needed would be stuff like improving facilities, replacing seats every once in a while, redoing the interiors, better bars, tvs but you dont hear that type of stuff in the news or anything, it should be done all the time. It is a Old Trafford. During the last two seasons they have replaced most bars, re-painted, put in plasma screens all around the ground(created there own tv channel for match days, normally shows a live football game etc) etc etc.

There average attendance has been stable at 73,000 for the last two seasons even with massive sucess so I'd agree its unlikely we'll see an expansion. The only reasons for it I can think of would be that it might not be possible to convert existing seating into exec seating and that a larger capacity would help with a bid for the final of a European Championships/World Cup ahead of the Bernabeu. Even with the latter though I'd guess that as has been mentioned facilities would be the main stumbling block.

That stadium needs a complete makeover which would very likely reduce capacity and at the same time attract more people. So they need an expansion, too. It's that simple!
But seriously, I want that stadium to have over 100.000 seats. Then imagine it being modern and having the facilities stadiums in England, Germany or the USA have today. It would be a dream!
Attandences usually rise when a stadium is modernised.

Right now I think the Bernabeu in Madrid looks much nicer. How can anybody in Barcelona want that?

Santiago Bernabéu - Real Madrid CF (http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/index.php?template=stadionguides&land=spanien&stadion=santiago_bernabeu&bereich=stadionfotos&tribuene=innen)

:bash:

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/templates/stadionlisten/spanien/camp_nou/510.jpg
Is that a tomato plant growing in the gutter?

That stadium needs a complete makeover which would very likely reduce capacity and at the same time attract more people. So they need an expansion, too. It's that simple!
But seriously, I want that stadium to have over 100.000 seats. Then imagine it being modern and having the facilities stadiums in England, Germany or the USA have today. It would be a dream!
Attandences usually rise when a stadium is modernised.

Right now I think the Bernabeu in Madrid looks much nicer. How can anybody in Barcelona want that?

Santiago Bernabéu - Real Madrid CF (http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/index.php?template=stadionguides&land=spanien&stadion=santiago_bernabeu&bereich=stadionfotos&tribuene=innen)

:bash:


Stadiums in Espana don't need those kind of facilities..., But renovation is always a good idea I guess

Stadiums in Espana don't need those kind of facilities..., But renovation is always a good idea I guess

Well, there are rich people and business people in Espana, too. If you want their money you need these facilities. It will happen, you'll see.

Real Sociedads future plans (http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwelt_stadien/index.php?template=neubau&umbau_id=6&fotos=modell)

The new Zaragoza stadium:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/greenman32/interiorgente028om.jpg

The main stand at Barcelona will get a third tier, a new larger roof and business seats and luxury boxes. It will happen within the next ten years. If they want a Champions League Final, the World Cup or the Euro they'll need that anyway. And don't forget that each time Barca plays in a stadium like the Emirates, Allianz Arena or AOL Arena, the bosses want this more and more.
And if other spanish clubs built new stadiums it will be a matter of pride to have something better.

Where do spain play the home games at, its Bernabeu isnt it if so when was the last time spain played at the nou camp

Spain play their home games all over the country.

Is that a tomato plant growing in the gutter?
yes :D

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=175358753&size=l

are they replacing the old seats?

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/7606/20726009397404f3a36bpc3.th.jpg (http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20726009397404f3a36bpc3.jpg)

has anyone got more pictures.

http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/7606/20726009397404f3a36bpc3.th.jpg (http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20726009397404f3a36bpc3.jpg)

Great photo! Now I know how they get the stripes on the pitch.

i love it when barca score at home.

It's realy that FC Barcelona expand Camp Nou and build an new sport pavilion.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2006/08/12/futbol/1155385624.html
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20060813/NOTICIA227097877.html
http://www.elcorreogallego.es/index.php?idMenu=44&idNoticia=73740

As Joan Laporta wins the elecion.

http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/20060813/NOTICIA227097877.html

Correct if I'm wrong, I am most probaly wrong as I can't speak spanish, but does that link say they have plans to increase the capacity by 20,000?

went to barca on hols so this is the nou camp 3 days ago -- notice on the last pic that a section of the bottom tier has been reseated red

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/dnoctor15/SA400049.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/dnoctor15/SA400077.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/dnoctor15/SA400051.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d56/dnoctor15/SA400075.jpg

This is a great stadium isn't it Goddamn... And as I read it is going to be 115.000 Cap again, finaly we'll have a 100.000 + stadium in Europe again!

This is a great stadium isn't it Goddamn... And as I read it is going to be 115.000 Cap again, finaly we'll have a 100.000 + stadium in Europe again!
Really ??? wow...

"We want to surpass the 150.000 associates in our new mandate and to expand the Camp Nou in 20.000 places" then it says something about being the Cathedral of the barcelona.

its going to be one fortress.

2005:

Yes they will increase the stadium with 20.000 seats. Only on the lower side of the stadium and an small part behind the goals. The will also build an new sport arena.

2005:

Yes they will increase the stadium with 20.000 seats. Only on the lower side of the stadium and an small part behind the goals. The will also build an new sport arena.

Any renders? Would be great to see it as a complete bowl but that old project you posted awhile ago with an extra teir on the roof side seems to make more sense.

MoreorLess:

They will build extra tiers on the roof side (lower side). The old project is not of this era. There are an cosmetic architect (Ricardo Bofill) to make the stadium more of this time.

When does La Liga start anyway.

When does La Liga start anyway.

Next Saturday

More details about the New Camp Nou:
http://www.sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=332957&idseccio_PK=803&h=060825

That's an increase of 20.000 seats?

20.000 seats above the extension roofline, and you see that:
http:
//www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/madrid/madrid_comunidad.shtml

so the main stand will look like the other one?

???

http://www.spanish-fiestas.com/football/images/estadibarca.JPG
can you "draw" the new stand here?

Old movie about camp nou.
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-987165869142646236&q=camp+nou

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2006/October/09/nou-camp-to-expand-to-118000-seats/

20.000 seats above the extension roofline, and you see that:
http:
//www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/spain/madrid/madrid_comunidad.shtml

eh what does this one have to do with Camp Nou? it's Madrid you puto!!

The hight of the actual stand + the stadium in madrid = the new situation of camp nou.

The hight of the actual stand + the stadium in madrid = the new situation of camp nou.

aaaah.... still a dangerous example, but now I understand.

Cool

when will they release renders?

:lol: A shame. Their average is 73.000 with a capacity of 98.000. :lol:

http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_193256_CAS.jpg

Luz verde al nou Camp Nou (http://sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=368125&idseccio_PK=803)


EL FC BARCELONA SACA A CONCURSO ESTE MES EL PROYECTO DE AMPLIACIÓN Y MEJORA DEL ESTADI Y SU ENTORNO

Luz verde al nuevo Camp Nou

La directiva desea que el Ajuntament y el barrio de Les Corts se impliquen y sientan suyo este proyecto

En septiembre se cumplen 50 años de la inauguración del Camp Nou. Para entonces el club espera tener aprobado el proyecto definitivo. El club desea que el Estadi sea una referencia a nivel mundial.

La junta directiva del FC Barcelona persigue el sueño de que el Camp Nou y su entorno, después de la ampliación y la remodelación que sufrirán en los próximos años, sea un referente mundial a nivel arquitectónico, turístico y deportivo.
Un proyecto que el club desea que también sientan como propio todos los vecinos de Les Corts y el Ajuntament de Barcelona. Sin su aprobación, implicación y apoyo será imposible sacar adelante esta obra civil que cambiará la cara a una de las zonas más importantes de la Ciudad Condal.

El año que acabamos de estrenar adquiere una especial significación porque el 24 de septiembre se cumplirán las Bodas de Oro del Camp Nou. Cincuenta años de vida de uno de los campos de fútbol más emblemáticos del mundo y que el FC Barcelona querría celebrar presentando públicamente el proyecto definitivo.

Precisamente durante el presente mes de enero se van a iniciar las conversaciones a tres bandas entre el Ajuntament, FC Barcelona y el Col.legi d’Arquitectes de Catalunya para fijar el calendario de presentación de los proyectos. El FC Barcelona convocará un concurso abierto que, muy probablemente, será supervisado por el citado colegio profesional, por lo que tendrán cabidas las ideas y propuestas de los arquitectos catalanes.

Dado que todavía no existe el proyecto definitivo, es imposible saber a ciencia cierta cómo será el futuro Camp Nou y cómo quedará su entorno. Sí que hay, desde luego, muchas ideas. Unas ideas que después podrían hacerse realidad, cumplirse en parte o simplemente quedar en aguas de borrajas.

Sí se sabe, por ejemplo, que la tercera gradería será ampliada, pero se desconoce al día de hoy cuántos nuevos asientos representará. Se ha venido sosteniendo que el Camp Nou crecerá en 15.000 nuevas butacas, pero en realidad ese número sólo podrá conocerse cuando se presente el proyecto definitivo. Hay que tener en cuenta que se harán muchos retoques dentro del Estadi y habrá una reordenación de los asientos disponibles.

La junta directiva del FC Barcelona, según ha podido saber SPORT, ya ha hecho una primera valoración del coste que tendría la remodelación y ampliación del Camp Nou, la construcción del nuevo Palau Blau Grana (que será un pabellón multiusos de última generación) y la reordenación del entorno, con la construcción de nuevos viales, plazas, zonas verdes y otros equipamientos. La cifra total ascendería a un mínimo de 350 millones de euros, 58.000 millones de las antiguas pesetas. Hay que tener en cuenta que el presupuesto del club azulgrana para esta temporada es de 300 millones.

El nuevo Camp Nou representaría un desembolso no inferior a los 200 millones de euros (la remodelación del Santiago Bernabéu, por ejemplo, costó 180 millones de euros), mientras que levantar el segundo Palau Blaugrana costaría alrededor de 80 millones de euros. El resto es lo que se destinaría a acondicionar el entorno y a hacer frente a lo que se llama ‘cargas urbanísticas’. Es decir, a la construcción de aquellos equipamientos que solicitará el Ajuntament, bien en la misma zona o en otras de la ciudad, a cambio de la recalificación de parte de esos terrenos. Bien podría ser un colegio, un polideportivo, un centro de asistencia médica, etcétera...

La magnitud del proyecto conlleva un ambicioso y estudiado plan de movilidad urbana, así como la llegada a la zona de tres líneas de metro.

Se sabe que el Mini Estadi será demolido, que desaparecerán los campos de entrenamientos anexos, que habrá un hotel de cuatro o cinco estrellas, amplias zonas para pasear, aparcamiento subterráneo, grandes plazas, pero... ¿cómo será el nuevo Camp Nou?

Hay muchas ideas para la gran joya de la corona, como la llamada ‘Segunda Piel’. El perímetro de cemento del Camp Nou desaparecerá. Se pretende que exteriormente el campo de fútbol sea algo bello arquitectónicamente y agradable a la vista. Una de las ideas es recubrirlo con una tela porosa y transparente que pueda cambiar de color en función de la luz que se proyecte. Algo parecido, si bien no igual, a los paneles azules y granas de la torre Agbar de Barcelona o incluso al gran anillo blanco del Allianz Arena de Múnich. La iluminación tendrá una importancia vital en el nuevo estadio. Un estadio que ganará en capacidad y en metros cuadrados y que dentro de sus entrañas acogerá la Botiga del Barça, la Oficina de Atención al Socio, por lo que las zonas de paso entre el Camp Nou y el nuevo Palau Blau Grana serán más diáfanas.

Otra de las ideas a la que se le está dando muchas vueltas es a si es factible cubrir de forma parcial o total el Estadi. Los arquitectos dirán si se puede hacer o no y deberán tener en cuenta un factor de la máxima importancia: el césped del Camp Nou. Debido a la altura del edificio y a que el césped se bajó unos metros, así como a la colocación de los marcadores, durante cinco meses al año hay una parte del césped que no recibe el sol suficiente y su mantenimiento es muy trabajoso.
Se estuvo mirando la posibilidad de copiar el modelo del Vitesse de Arhnem (Holanda), cuyo campo de fútbol es retráctil. Es decir, el césped se mueve mediante unas guías y se saca al exterior donde el cien por cien de la hierba recibe luz directa del sol. Esta solución quedó descartada.

Los directivos azulgranas quieren, eso sí, que el Camp Nou esté dotado del máximo confort para que sus socios y seguidores se sientan lo más cómodos posible.

http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_193256_CAS.jpg

Luz verde al nou Camp Nou (http://sport.es/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=44&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=368125&idseccio_PK=803)

English summary?

free translation.com

THE FC BARCELONA REMOVES TO CONTEST THIS MONTH THE PROJECT OF ENLARGEMENT AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE ESTADI AND ITS ENVIRONMENT

Green light al new Camp Nou

The board of directors desires that the Ajuntament and the neighborhood of Them Corts be implied and they sit down theirs this project

In September they comply 50 years of the inauguration of the Camp Nou. By then the club wait to have approved the final project. The club desires that the Estadi be a reference on a worldwide basis.

The board of directors of the FC Barcelona pursues the dream that the Camp Nou and its environment, after the enlargement and the restructuring that will suffer in the next years, be a referring world one to sports, tourist, and architectural level. A project that the club desires that also they sit down as own all the neighbors of Them Corts and the Ajuntament of Barcelona. Without its approval, implication and support will be impossible to remove ahead this civil work that will change the face to one of the most important zones of the City Condal.

The year that have just premiered acquires a special meaning because September 24 will comply the Anniversaries of Gold of the Camp Nou. Fifty years of life of one of the most symbolic fields of soccer of the world and that the FC Barcelona would want to celebrate presenting publically the final project.

Exactly during the present month of January are going to initiate the conversations to three bands among the Ajuntament, FC Barcelona and the Cabbage.legi d' Arquitectes of Catalonia to set the calendar of presentation of the projects. The FC Barcelona will call an open contest that, very probably, will be supervised by the cited professional school, for which they will be acceptable the ideas and proposals of the Catalonian architects.

It given that not yet the final project exists, is impossible to know to certain science how will be the future

Camp Nou and how will remain its environment. Yes that there is, of course, many ideas. Some ideas that later would be able to be done reality, to be complied in part or simply to remain in water of borages.

Yes it is known, for example, that the third stands will be expanded, but al does not know itself day of today how many new seats will represent. It has come him maintaining that the Camp Nou will grow in 15.000 new seats, but in reality that number only will be able to be known when itself present the final project. One must keep in mind that many touches inside the Estadi will be done and there will be a reordenación of the available seats.

The board of directors of the FC Barcelona, SPORTS has been able to know, already has done a first appraisal of the price that would have the restructuring and enlargement of the Camp Nou, the construction of the new one Palau Blau Seed (that will be a multipurpose building of the latest generation) and the reordenación of the environment, with the construction of new roads, plazas, green belts and other equipment. The total figure would elevate to a minimum of 350 million euro, 58.000 million the old pesetas. One must keep in mind that the budget of the club azulgrana for this season is of 300 million.

The new Camp Nou would represent a not lower disbursement to the 200 million euro (the restructuring of the Santiago Bernabéu, for example, cost 180 million euro), while to raise the second one Palau Blaugrana would cost around 80 million euro. The remainder is what would be destined to condition the environment and to face what is called 'urban development loads'. That is to say, to the construction of those equipment that will request the Ajuntament, well in the same zone or in other of the city, in exchange for the recalificación on behalf of those lands. Well could be a school, a sports center, a center of health care, etc...

The magnitude of the project involves an ambitious one and studied plan of urban mobility, as well as the arrival to the zone of three lines of meter.

It is known that the Mini Estadi will be demolished, that will disappear the training camps annexs, that there will be a hotel of four or five stars, extensive zones to stroll, large, subterranean parking plazas, but... How will be the new Camp Nou?

There are many ideas for the great jewel of the crown, like the call 'Second Skin'. The perimeter of cement of the Camp Nou will disappear. Intends itself that exteriorly the field of soccer be somewhat beautiful architecturally and pleasant in sight. One of the ideas is covered it with a transparent and porous fabric that can change of color in function of the light that be projected. Something it seemed, though not equal, to the blue boards and seeds of the tower Agbar of Barcelona or even al great white ring of the Allianz Sand of Munich. The lighting will have a vital importance in the new stadium. A stadium that will gain in capacity and in square meters and that inside their bowels will receive the Botiga of the Barça, the Office of Attention al Associate, for which the zones in transit between the Camp Nou and the new one Palau Blau Seed they will be more diaphanous.

Another of the ideas to which him is being given many returns is to if is feasible to cover with partial form or total the Estadi. The architects will say if can be done or not and they should keep in mind a factor of the maximum importance: the lawn of the Camp Nou. Due to the height of the building and to that the lawn descended some meters, as well as to the placement of the scoreboards, during five months al year there is a part of the lawn that does not receive the sufficient sun and their maintenance is very laborious. The possibility to copy was looking at itself the model of the Vitesse of Arhnem (Holland), whose field of soccer is retráctil. That is to say, the lawn moves by means of some guides and al exterior is removed where the a hundred for a hundred of the herb receives direct sunlight. This solution remained ruled out.

The executive azulgranas want, that yes, that the Camp Nou be gifted of the maximum comfort so that their associates and followers sit down it more comfortable possible.

http://www.sport.es/vivo/recursos/fotos/foto_193256_CAS.jpg



is it just me that's confused over this image?

are they knocking the whole thing down and starting fresh?

Another toilet seat like munich ? a bibendum ? life buoy ? :lol:

is it just me that's confused over this image?

are they knocking the whole thing down and starting fresh?

No you're not alone

Do they seriously think about destroying the Camp Nou. I thought that stadium was on some kind of architectural preservation list.

is it just me that's confused over this image?

are they knocking the whole thing down and starting fresh?

I wouldn't read anything at all into that image - it's obviously just a generic stadium with the Barcelona colours and logo and a roof, to show what the future stadium might look like. They haven't even started the architectural competition yet!

is it just me that's confused over this image?

are they knocking the whole thing down and starting fresh?

It seems to me that the render is there just to illustrate the plans they have for the exterior. The designer/architect seems to have just lazily used a generic stadium interior, painted it in Barça's livery and passed it off as the same thing. I just think it's a bit of a half-arsed job, which reminds me of...*

*from Monty Python: "That's not a cat licence, it's a dog licence with the the word 'dog' crossed out and 'cat' written in - in crayon"

The rather profound aspect (if you excuse the pun) of this is this:

The exterior perimeter of the CN governs the depth of the third tier as it wraps around the ground. Currently, as the tier graduates from its maximum depth on one side (opposite the dug-outs) to around half-depth at each end, to a minimal depth on the 'main' stand side, where the roof covers it, any natural extension of the tier depth would require extensive work to the external perimeter.

By cladding the entire ground in a façade, it is probably much more practicable to raise the depth of the third tier to its maximum (or even deeper) for the complete circumference of the ground.

I agree with the sentiments that it may become a bit of a clone (albeit a larger one) of Allianz. I prefer the character it has now, but then I don't go every other week...

Don't like the render at all, hope you guys are right that it's nothing concrete.
Is there any info regarding the date of construction work?

Don't like the render at all, hope you guys are right that it's nothing concrete.
Is there any info regarding the start of construction work?


the true rendering will be released on 24 september after architecture works , the present one does mean few things .

that's a long time to wait... I hope some renderings will leek out to SSC hehehe

BUMP

I noticed that the side opposite the roofed side now has red seats in the bottom tier and blue seats with writing in the second

has anyone got recent photos of the inside with these new seats?

Stadionwelt used to have the ones from when the roofed side had its new blue seats

No problem (from 26 November last year, the day after I watched Barca v Villareal):

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q85/CharlieP1973/cp20061126110725_1600x1200.jpg

......So when is this renovation going to begin?

Taken from fcbarcelona.com:


Xavier Cambra confirmed that the possible expansion of the stadium, which has already been widely reported in the media, was one of the subjects on the agenda of this evening's meeting. The FC Barcelona spokesman said "the club is taking the right steps" in the negotiation process.

He also said that Barça "is in talks with local residents and the Council" and that "the mobility study project has been made", before finishing by saying that "we hope to find out the results very soon".

Last Friday the Council announced that "the project must be made in terms of the regulations for urban planning. Legislation obliges any project that effects a facility, be that creating it, extending, etc, must first be processed as a Special Urban Plan". That means that the mandatory works licence is not granted directly, but rather is associated to this special procedure, as the council had demonstrated in a press release.

Don't think it will start any time soon. Seems like they are in an early planning stage.

On 24 September 2007 is there an presentation of the defenitive plan, with model. It's already the day of 50 years camp nou.

Few more infos from fcbarcelona.com


More modern

Apart from improving comfort, accessibility and security, Joan Laporta said he wants a projects that can "improve the aesthetics of the stadium" before adding that he wants "one of the most modern stadiums in the world", one which can set new standards.

Read more here (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/eng/noticias/noticias/n07020709.shtml)

There are now an design competition underway for the new Camp Nou. What's the best architect company for the new Camp Nou.
Herzog & de Meuron, HOK, Calatrava or Norman Foster.

Just one thing is confirmed, the architech will be catalonian. So... forget those names ^^

^ Who then? Bennedetta Mirralles?

Please no. The Nou Camp, inspired by the Scottish Parliament?

Inevitably, there must be some Gaudi influence. How about stairways like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Gaudi_Arch.jpg/180px-Gaudi_Arch.jpg

Back in 93 or 94 they aborted an extension to Camp nou, some speculations in the press at the time where that the roof design caused lots of trouble if they wanted to remove it. Hopefully they can fix that now but if my memory isn't to rusty the main reason was that they would have to close the stadium during the removing of the roof and that it would mean the team would have to play outside of the stadium for a large part of the season.

they shouldnt touch it at all, just leave it as it is

it would mean the team would have to play outside of the stadium for a large part of the season.

What, in the car park? :)

Well Espanol is going out of the olympic stadium, they could go in for a while?

Are Espanyol building a new stadium?

yes
the new stadium of Espanyol
41.000
http://www.rcdespanyol.com/galeria/thumbs/galeria/tn_1167842127.JPG

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latest pics
6.2.2007
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hey these renders I did not see yet, nice very nice and thanks!

Cool. Where will it be located?

Cool. Where will it be located?

In Cornellà del Llobregat

http://wikimapia.org/#y=41347304&x=2072897&z=14&l=0&m=a&v=2

Thanks!

I knew before that one side of the Camp Nou is a bit higher than the other, but I didn't realise until yesterday how big the difference really is.

http://www.sgci.mec.es/uk/Pub/Tecla/2005/iconos/Nou%20Camp.JPG

http://www.frederickbabb.com/images/400_camp_nou.jpg

And I really like this, shame it will probably be gone if they expand :(
What I don't like at the moment are the big screens, they should be better integrated into the stadium. I don't really like the roof either, but it would look weird if they'd just extended it all around.


Just one thing is confirmed, the architech will be catalonian. So... forget those names ^^

Are you sure about that?

From www.fcbarcelona.com:
The two parties decided that the selection of the architects and architectonic project should be decided through an international competition. "It will be a public, open and international competition", explained Joan Laporta, adding that the intention was for the stadium "to set new architectural standards for the city".

Link (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/eng/noticias/noticias/n07020709.shtml)

i wanna see the projects :D
NOOW

www.sercan.de
The presentation of the project is on the birthday (50 years) of the stadium on 24 Septembre 2007.

:(

there will be different proposals by different architects
So maybe the capacity is also different for each proposal?

^^ yes

Joan Laporta said that there is still a lot to be decided, such as whether the stadium will be extended or not, which will all be decided in conjunction with whoever the winning architects turn out to be "It depends on the winning project" said the president of FC Barcelona.

Sorry Barca fans.
i am a little bit confused.
So, there will be projects for Nou camp.
But what the aim for the new projects?
expansion or to make it more modern, roof for all stands?

Serious question...it says it is an open competition, what are the chances of someone like me entering? Or is it open to architecture firms only? I'm just interested because I have a design for the new stadium in the back of my head.

Down In London:

Let me see

i don't know if it is taken form the highest row
http://www.testors.net/tt/attach/1/814592.jpg

Big news,

http://www.fcbstadium.com/eng/index.html

I knew before that one side of the Camp Nou is a bit higher than the other, but I didn't realise until yesterday how big the difference really is.

And you call yourself a barca fan? :ohno:

Espanol is building a nice Stadium, when it is finished, what will happened with Olympia Stadium????

that view from camp nou doesnt look that bad from that highup, anyone know how much tickets are for the various levels

the ticket prices are realtivly cheap, for some games.
if you are not a member tickets start at around 18 euros, but this link will tell you about the prices etc: http://espectacle.fcbarcelona.com/eng/entrades.html

i don't know which year
Nou Camp
http://www.fcbarcelonaonline.com/const3.jpg

http://www.fcbarcelonaweb.com/images/campnou_hist1-1.jpg

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FC Barcelona

18x Champion:
1929, 1945, 1948, 1949, 1952,
1953, 1959, 1960, 1974, 1985,
1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998,
1999, 2005, 2006

24x Cup Winner (record):
1910, 1912, 1913, 1920, 1922,
1925, 1926, 1928, 1942, 1951,
1952, 1953, 1957, 1959, 1963,
1968, 1971, 1978, 1981, 1983,
1988, 1990, 1997, 1998

2x UEFA Champions League:
1992, 1996

4x UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (record):
1979, 1982, 1989, 1997

2x UEFA Super Cup:
1992, 1997

3x UEFA Cup:
1958, 1960, 1966


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por favor alguien me puede decir como insertar imagenes, gracias

¿Qué?

que no se insertar imagenes y no lo encuentro por ningun lado

¿No se ha sabido nada acerca de la remodelación del Camp Nou?

to the last poster , it will be released in september .

eh... wasn´t there a thread about this stadium allready?

The project for the remodelation will be presented at September 24, at least 50% of the seats will be covered by a roof.

este post va dedicado al mejor estadio del mundo: camp nou, barcelona

It's not the biggest stadium in the world, May Day Stadium in N. Korea, and the biggest football-only stadium is Estadio Azteca in Mexico.:)

He didn't say 'biggest' but 'best'.

I won't say anything about the accuracy of that statement, though.

por favor alguien me puede decir como insertar imagenes, gracias

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=270829

Speak English here.

gracias ciceron

Speak English here.

Hum... Does he know how to?

Hum... Does he know how to?

pues si que se listo pero escribo en mi idioma: español

It's not the biggest stadium in the world, May Day Stadium in N. Korea, and the biggest football-only stadium is Estadio Azteca in Mexico.:)

I heard the redevelopment was going to take Camp Nou to 120/125k, meaning it would be the biggest in the world.

pues si que se listo pero escribo en mi idioma: español

try to imagine if everyone in this world speaks only the own "idioma"...

^^Hey u know spanish! :colgate:

I heard the redevelopment was going to take Camp Nou to 120/125k, meaning it would be the biggest in the world.

I heard the number of 113'000.
What's the cap of Azteca stadium?

114,000 :D

^^Hey u know spanish! :colgate:

only because is so fucking similar to italian...:colgate:

Azteca is now 105.064 (after they installed the 2 big TV Screens)

Azteca is now 105.064 (after they installed the 2 big TV Screens)


tienes fotos de esas dos pantallas de tv

try to imagine if everyone in this world speaks only the own "idioma"...

Maybe the English and American would finaly learn some other idioma then their own...

Even I understood the guy's first post (and I never had any Spanish and suck at languages in general).

Maybe the English and American would finaly learn some other idioma then their own...

Even I understood the guy's first post (and I never had any Spanish and suck at languages in general).

I don't understand. So these are justifications for the fact that in a world forum, some people are not able to speak the world international language with the result that in an international section, some persons will not understand what is written!? cool! ;)

How it looked last week...damn i think that stadiums is ugly...needs some serious renovations!!!
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2170/panocampnou2largeyd7.jpg

I agree, also a roof!

It will get 'serious renovation' and a roof pretty soon... Just wait till the 24th of September.

Damn, is that Nike sign in the seats new? I hate it.
But nice that they are replacing the old seats though.

As far as I remember they only replaced the old seats in some parts of the stadium...looks very ugly...I was so disapointed when I visited the stadium for the first time a week ago.

^^
well, you can clearly see which seats are new.
They are not replacing all of them in a year.
This year they added new seasts on the right side (on your pic).
Next year they will probably do the left side.

Has the stand under the roof already new seats or still the old ones?

I really hope that the project for the roof, is not the one I've seen some months ago.

It was a crystal structure, that definitely didn't fit well with the archtiecture of the stadium!

Super grande la estructura!

^^
well, you can clearly see which seats are new.
They are not replacing all of them in a year.
This year they added new seasts on the right side (on your pic).
Next year they will probably do the left side.

Has the stand under the roof already new seats or still the old ones?

Yes the seats under the roof where new as far as I remember

I don't understand. So these are justifications for the fact that in a world forum, some people are not able to speak the world international language with the result that in an international section, some persons will not understand what is written!? cool! ;)

Certainly not, I was trying to point that out to the guy through my ¿Qué? remark. He did send me a PM about that but I had no idea what it said :lol:

Has the stand under the roof already new seats or still the old ones?

Yeah, they were the first to be done, a couple of years ago.

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/ESP/Camp_Nou6.JPG

Really find it poor that they don't change them all at the same time.

a friend of mine went there a few years ago and was very dissapointed he said the place was a dump.

The interior of the stadium is very disappointed, like Oelanddk said, and pretty antiquated.
People start thinking the same (http://www.flickr.com/photos/offchurch-tam/432311822/in/set-72157600023945691/) like marrio's friend.
The stadium needs a depply renovation....and I wonder if we'll see an ambitious project next month.

Thanks for the pics! Camp Nou is in need of renovation, but it is still massive!

Are they ever gonna have a full roof?

I agree, also a roof!

No roof, we are in Spain!

If they build a new stadium, will it be Camp Nou Nou? :D

The interior of the stadium is very disappointed, like Oelanddk said, and pretty antiquated.
People start thinking the same (http://www.flickr.com/photos/offchurch-tam/432311822/in/set-72157600023945691/) like marrio's friend.
The stadium needs a depply renovation....and I wonder if we'll see an ambitious project next month.
IMO the whole stadium is very disappointed and all the facilities around it. It really looks like something from a 3. world country.:ohno:

Btw I don't think a roof is a must since it rarely rains...

IMO the whole stadium is very disappointed and all the facilities around it. It really looks like something from a 3. world country.:ohno:

Therefore they decided to modernize it
The Results of the design competion will be published next months as i know

Really looking forward to see the winner...:)

can a mod merge the 2 nou camp threads?
BTW i have never seen a mod in this section :D

http://www.fcbstadium.com/eng/index.html

Btw I don't think a roof is a must since it rarely rains...

well, if you want huge sunburn....

...and the selected design is:

Foster&Partners (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/club/temporada07-08/09/n070918101634.html)

I can't wait to see the model!

That's pretty cool...could turn out to be really interesting

Really looking forward to the model.
The stadium will maintain its asymmetric shape and the cap will be increased by about 10'000 according to the link.

Allianz Arena II ?? (http://www.fcbarcelona.com/web/english/noticies/club/temporada07-08/09/n070922101086.html)

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Hm, not a big fan of it but could be worse.

I don't like it :nono:

I like it, if the collors are dynamic you could achieve great looking facade. The stadium will without a doubt be very modern and clean in contrast to now. The extra 10.000 spectators will push the cap to over 100.000 making it the first all seater in europe breaking into 6 digit.

damn Alianz Arena 2...hmm...don't know what to think of it...

I'm not sure the Camp Nou needs a roof but I'm sure it will look amazing either way

:master: I just love it

amazing! :applause:

I love the colors and the Gaudí style.

:applause:

Too similar to Allianz Arena but with a cheaper look. This is not as impressive as the original one.

I don't like it. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/nono.gif