Klausenburg
August 16th, 2007, 02:20 AM
I believe that that we could speak about malls in this part of Europe.About the projects, developers...and so on.What do you think?
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Klausenburg August 16th, 2007, 02:20 AM I believe that that we could speak about malls in this part of Europe.About the projects, developers...and so on.What do you think? HenkMan August 16th, 2007, 03:42 PM In a few months(November or October I think), Belgrade will get it's biggest mall till now: Delta City 67 http://www.beobuild.net/news.php/56.html?go=projects It will have 89000 square metres of commercial space http://www.x-build.net/4images/data/media/1/060325-rn-delta67-02.jpg The same company has a lot of other plans after it finishes with "City" malls. All their malls are projected by Isreali MYS architects - you can see the rest of projects here - http://www.m-y-s.com/portfolio/locations (look at Serbia) But the bigest mall of them all will probably be Usce center, with 120000 square meters or commercial space, plus 60000 square meters in the twin office towers http://www.beobuild.net/news.php/60.html?go=projects nebunul August 16th, 2007, 04:25 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=14599785&postcount=392 Found this map ... 8 more malls/shopping centers in Bucharest (most U/C and some approved) http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5160/24391445fe9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I think the biggest one will be Cotroceni Park - approx 210.000 mp http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3018/111bz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2202/111be4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) SRB August 16th, 2007, 04:42 PM ^^ omg thats huge:eek: BG_PATRIOT August 16th, 2007, 04:50 PM For Sofia, this will be the biggest mall, it will be built behind the Central Train Station just like Cotroceni Park it will be around 210 000 sqm. The investor is the Spanish company Riofisa, the works should start next summer. The complex will mainly be for retail but it will include a 90m office/hotel tower. http://pressian.hit.bg/sofia.jpg bgrs August 16th, 2007, 04:59 PM Well, dunno about Bulgarian malls, the retail sector is booming. I know there are some malls already built in Sofia and Veliko Tarnovo and many more approved or U/C in Sofia and the country. These are the most well-known in Sofia: Mall of Sofia, about 70k sqm, it has a cinema multiplex as well as the Balkans' second IMAX 3D cinema (the first is in Athens). http://www.pik-bg.com/docs/issue_4/04-12-01.jpg City center Sofia, about 45k sqm. http://imagesfrombulgaria.com/d/29760-4/P1070552.JPG And Sky City, which is smaller, about 25k sqm http://www.technomarket.bg/SKY/STP_2.jpg ...till 2010, at least 5-6 more are going to be opened Turnovec August 16th, 2007, 05:13 PM ^^ Sky city is the best of all those when talking about prices :) mdka August 16th, 2007, 05:45 PM ^^ Sky city is the best of all those when talking about prices :) But for me is very ugly and looks like a metro store ,just a little bit higher,i saw it last month when i was in sofia and frankly i expected much more SkaNdErBeG August 16th, 2007, 06:08 PM Some malls i came across during my vacation in Durres, Albania: http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/DSC_0560.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/DSC_0557.jpg http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x229/mamani_ks/DSC_0522.jpg Jünyus Brütüs August 16th, 2007, 08:41 PM Mall of Sofia, about 70k sqm, it has a cinema multiplex as well as the Balkans' second IMAX 3D cinema (the first is in Athens). well, Istanbul has two IMAX 3D. anyway nice malls you have... btw i want to ask a question, do you qualify shopping centers and malls as same? we generally use shopping center instead of the word "mall" ВОДА August 16th, 2007, 08:46 PM well, Istanbul has two IMAX 3D. Istanbul has two IMAX 3D, but Sofia has the second one after Athens.:) ВОДА August 16th, 2007, 08:50 PM http://www.chambersz.com/im/mol-stara_zagora.jpg Mall Stara Zagora - 19,500 m2 (GLA) - The first mall in Stara Zagora - Communicative location - Retail Park environment - 6-screen cinema complex KINO ARENA - Total catchment area of 650,000 people http://www.colliers.bg/property.php?id=13 Mall Stara Zagora is the first mall in the region of Stara Zagora – an area of rapid development in recent years. The region is very dynamic and continues to attract significant foreign investment. Mall Stara Zagora is part of the first retail park in the city. Neighboring the mall are a 7,200 m2 Mr. Bricolage (DIY) and a 4,200 m2 Technopolis (consumer electronics hypermarket). Dux Uxorum August 16th, 2007, 09:29 PM First of all, I'd like to comment positively on the photos of these shopping malls in Bulgaria and Albania, they really look pretty and exactly "the way shopping mall should look like". What I personally don't like (this is the case with a lot of shopping malls in the ex-yu area as well) is when everything is written in English. What do you think? I mean, I'm sure "kuglanje" is not known as "bowling" in Bulgaria, right? I guess, it would be OK to have things written both in the native language and English as well, but to have everything written in English only...... Делян August 16th, 2007, 10:04 PM The future "Mall Varna Towers" 2 Office Buildings (towers), office class A 1 Heliport 1 Swimming Pool on top of the tower Investment: 85 million Levs (43 million Euro) Opening day: Spring, 2009. http://www.dnevnik.bg/lib/showimg.php?filename=dx300_368656.jpg Picture from: http://www.dnevnik.bg Kapedani August 16th, 2007, 10:50 PM Damn Bulgaria has got some nice stuff going on. Here are some more from Albania... Vlora http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2952/n172006684307886517381tl6.jpg Its in the first two floors of these buildings http://www.daniel-ursprung.ch/images/vlora_zentrum.jpg Korca http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1448/n7183803186073663160qb5.jpg QTU Tirana http://www.alex99-al.com/foto/8.jpg QTU extension http://www.atp.ag/data/projekt/3195/klein/01.jpg QTU Fier http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/fieraku07/qtu-fier.jpg This is planned to be the largest, near Tirana http://www.gardencity-al.com/images/Mall1.jpg http://www.gardencity-al.com/images/ghome3.gif Mall of Albania http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/01.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/01-1.jpg BG_PATRIOT August 16th, 2007, 10:57 PM http://www.gardencity-al.com/images/Mall1.jpg\ WOW This looks like something they would built in Dubai!!! :cheers: zzibit August 16th, 2007, 11:11 PM Are malls really a measure of modernity in a country? too many of them and they take too much space. not to mention the stupid names they are given...... BG_PATRIOT August 16th, 2007, 11:11 PM Here are some other interesting malls approved or U/C in Bulgaria :cheers: Cohen's Group Tsarigradsko Shose Mall, Sofia (approved) http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n16/djurob/1.jpg Mall Varna (U/C), Varna http://lagis-bg.com/images/tekushti/mallvarna/1.jpg Pfohe Mall (U/C), Varna http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3596/pfoheeh5.jpg Mall Ruse (construction to start September), Ruse http://www.ruseonline.info/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=34.0;attach=25;image there are others but I am too lazy to find the pictures now.... BG_PATRIOT August 16th, 2007, 11:15 PM Are malls really a measure of modernity in a country? too many of them and they take too much space. not to mention the stupid names they are given...... Malls usually mean that people have more money or will potentially have more money, that is why the malls are getting built for people to spend their money in the malls...I have to agree with you about the names...I mean they could be a little more creative...anyhow it is the design that is important not the name :okay: Klausenburg August 17th, 2007, 12:26 AM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=14599785&postcount=392 Found this map ... 8 more malls/shopping centers in Bucharest (most U/C and some approved) http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5160/24391445fe9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I think the biggest one will be Cotroceni Park - approx 210.000 mp http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3018/111bz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2202/111be4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) As I know Cotroceni Park has all build surface of 210000 sqm. But Colloseum Centern from Chitila will have only the commercial surface (GLA) around 180000 sqm!! And the totan surface will be like 600000 sqm!!! I heard that the developer of Colloseum wants to bulit a private highaway from the Downtown Bucharest to Chitila. Do smb know more about this? And also Esplanada project of TriGranit will be smth like 700-800000 sqm! If smb has any infos about this to projects is welcome! Klausenburg August 17th, 2007, 12:45 AM Polus Center Cluj * Str. Republicii 109, ET. II, 400489 * Cluj Napoca * Romania * Tel.: + 40 264 40 63 26 * Fax: + 40 264 40 63 27 * Email: atorok@trigranit.com http://www.trigranit.com/media/proj_galeria/nagy/1181807629_polus_center_cluj.jpgServus in Transylvania The Polus Center Cluj is located on a site of over 25 hectares and will be the largest regional enclosed shopping and entertainment center in the market. The planned gross leasable area of the center is just over 60,000 m2. The center will host over 200 shops with a 15,000 m2 Carrefour as the main anchor tenant. The Center is 85% leased (Media Galaxy, Domo, Odeon Multiplex, Home Art Gallerie) just to mention the largest anchors. Parking for the center will be on-grade, and plans call for over 2,500 available spaces. In addition to the hypermarket and other anchor stores, TriGranit will create a balanced mix of stores and profiles. The retail design will be 21st century, along with large skylights, theme courts and the highest quality operational systems. Polus Center Cluj is not just another mall, but also a regional mixed-use center with cinemas, entertainment facilities and theme restaurants. The project will also include a special events area, which has never been done in the market before. * Commencement of construction: 2006 * Project opening: 2007 * General contractor: Arcadom * Total development cost in million Euro: 140 * Gross buildable area (m2): 80,000 * Retail area (m2): 61,000 * Number of retail units: 200 * Parking stalls: 2,500 * Designer: Assix Creations, Bose International * Project Prototype : * Retail * Map * Related gallery: * Polus Center Cluj Klausenburg August 17th, 2007, 12:49 AM Polus Center, Constanta * Constanta * Romania * Tel.: +36 1 374 5617 * Fax: +36 1 374 5601 * Email: atorok@trigranit.com Leisure at the Black Sea Due to the fact that Constanta is the second largest city after Bucharest in Romania and the most frequently visited holiday resort along the Black Sea, TriGranit considers it an ideal location for a shopping and entertainment center. The project is located on Aurel Vlaicu Boulevard which is the busiest ring road connecting the North and South part of the city which has a population of over 350,000 inhabitants. Polus Center Constanta will be the largest regional single-level shopping and entertainment center in Constanta. The planned gross leasable area of the center is just over 50,000 m2. The center will host over 170 shops with a 16,000 m2 hypermarket anchor, in addition to an 8-screen cinema, food court, electronics, entertainment and several fashion anchors. Parking for the center will be both underground and surface with over 2,200 available spaces. The opening of the center is planned for the Q4 of 2008. * Commencement of construction: 2007 * Project opening: 2008 * Investment in million Euro: 140 * Gross buildable area (m2): 105,000 * Retail area (m2): 50,000 * Number of retail units: 170 * Parking stalls: 2,200 * Designer: Assix Creations, Bose International * Project Prototype : * Retail * Map * Related gallery: * Polus Center Constanta Klausenburg August 17th, 2007, 12:57 AM Esplanada City Center, Bucharest * 020521 Bucuresti str. Drobeta nr. 11, sector 2. * Bucharest * Romania * Tel.: +40 31 805 92 89,90, * Fax: +40 21 212 46 92 * Email: office@trigranit.ro Reshaping the city The Esplanada Project aims the functional conversion of the site bordered by Unirii Avenue, Nerva Traian Street, Octavian Goga Avenue and Mircea Voda Avenue, on a surface of 107,140 m2 and with a direct investment of 1 billion Euro and with a related investment of 2 to 3 billion Euro. Esplanada will provide shopping, living, working and leisure functions integrated into a mixed-use urban community envisaged within a city environment of streets, plazas and gardens. Esplanada City Center will offer a unique cultural centre in Romania involving a national concert hall, Guggenheim Museum and a multifunctional cultural space. For this project implementation, the public private partnership seemed as the ideal financing option. The project will create thousands of construction jobs and thousands of full time employment opportunities. The Esplanada will be the new symbol of Bucharest and Romania’s future as a new city center, a place of life, 24 hours per day. * Commencement of construction: 2008 * Project opening: 2010 * Investment in million Euro: 1,000 * Gross buildable area (m2): 880,000 * Function: retail and entertainment, office, residential, cultural * Designer: Murphy & Jahn * Project Prototype : * City Center * Map * Related gallery: * Esplanda City Center Dardani6 August 17th, 2007, 12:57 AM city park in tirana http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/citypark.jpg retail complex http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1157/551394612_5d8adf0ccd.jpg Casa Italia Trade Cente http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1317/551394620_c8a18e6ef8.jpg Dardani6 August 17th, 2007, 01:02 AM aslo festival city, a large retail and residential complex. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/festival4.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/festival3.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/festival5.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/festival1.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o179/urbania21/festival2.jpg Klausenburg August 17th, 2007, 01:05 AM Here you can see the map of the future Colosseum Center near Bucharest, Romania: http://www.notez.ro/coolstuff/chitila/chitila_overlay.html nebunul August 17th, 2007, 01:21 AM ^^ TBC 2009 - Developer - http://www.modusproperties.co.uk/home.htm http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6850/55286428cc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) new bulgaria August 17th, 2007, 04:38 AM The future "Mall Varna Towers" 2 Office Buildings (towers), office class A 1 Heliport 1 Swimming Pool on top of the tower Investment: 85 million Levs (43 million Euro) Opening day: Spring, 2009. http://www.dnevnik.bg/lib/showimg.php?filename=dx300_368656.jpg Picture from: http://www.dnevnik.bg The construction of Varna Towers Mall started today: “Денси” почна градежа на най-модерния мол във Варна http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2038/densiub6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Първата копка на най-модерния търговско-развлекателен и административен център във Варна за 80 млн. лв. бе направена вчера. Амбициозният проект се реализира съвместно от фирмите "Денси" и "Сити център", които създават за целта смесената фирма Varna Towers. В последната седмица на юли проектът на Varna Towers получи сертификат за първокласен инвеститор от Българската агенция за инвестиции (БАИ). Молът ще е единственият във Варна, който е с много добри комуникации на две основни артерии "Вл. Варненчик" и "Република". Строителството ще продължи 18 месеца. Пълното завършване на най-модерния варненски мол ще стане от 3 до 6 месеца след това, но не по-късно от септември 2009 г. До седмица ще бъде избран и главен изпълнител на строителството. Засега имаме предварителни договорки за половината от площите на търговско-развлекателната част на комплекса. За офисите още не сме започнали преговори. Наемите ще бъдат от 6,5 до 60 евро за квадрат. Финансирането ще стане със собствени средства на двете фирми и кредит от българска банка. Идеята на инвеститорите е да се построи център много по-различен от изградените досега молове в България. Оригиналната архитектура на проекта доказва тези намерения. Двете кули на най-модерния варненски мол ще бъдат с височина от 75 м, като на едната от тях ще има хеликоптерна площадка. За един от наемателите, който ще се разположи на два етажа се предвижда изграждането и на басейн. Най-модерният варненски мол ще е със 70,4 хил. кв. м разгъната застроена площ, а отдаваемите търговски площи ще са около 52 хил. кв. м, а офисните - над 18,6 хил. кв. м. Това превръща молът в най-големия комплекс от смесен тип във Варна и в един от най-големите в България. Зоната за пазаруване и свободно време ще е разположена на две търговски нива. Големите атриуми създават усещане за свобода и простор. Те се съчетават с атрактивни панорамни тераси. Местата за паркиране във Varna Towers ще бъдат 500, като те ще бъдат разположени на 3 подземни нива. След завършване на строителството на Varna Towers намеренията на инвеститорите включват два варианта - или да бъде даден за менажиране от специализирана фирма, или да бъде продаден на инвестиционен фонд. Молът във Велико Търново, който бе един от големите проекти на "Денси" бе продаден преди време успешно. 7t August 17th, 2007, 09:09 AM Festival City and Mall of Albania are the 2 big projects to look out for in Tirana. The first one is a massive project covering an area of 291.000 m2 pescarush August 17th, 2007, 12:47 PM Malls in Constanta U\C City Park Mall-opening this autumn http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3995/ct01ri7.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7066/ct02mn0.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1818/125200643200pm203mall57on3.jpg Trident Plaza-opening 2009 http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/290/constanta01pf5.jpg http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1798/constanta00hv0.jpghttp://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9375/tridentgp9.jpg Polus Center Constanta-opening 2008 http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7469/pc1pg9.jpg http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2968/poluscenter2kj9.jpg http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/849/poluscenter3ri5.jpg http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/4566/poluscenter4ic4.jpg pescarush August 17th, 2007, 02:04 PM Here you can see the map of the future Colosseum Center near Bucharest, Romania: http://www.notez.ro/coolstuff/chitila/chitila_overlay.html ^^ TBC 2009 - Developer - http://www.modusproperties.co.uk/home.htm http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6850/55286428cc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3915/colosseumjz3.jpg and they re site:http://www.thecolosseumcenter.com.ro/ unfortunately brochures in pdf file are not working. nebunul August 17th, 2007, 02:18 PM ^^ ^^ Located in the north west of Bucharest, The Colosseum Center will become one of the premier shopping centre destinations in the city. This €450m development will offer a blend of retail, leisure and catering facilities in a contemporary setting. This high quality, exceptionally designed centre will be built in the fastest growing, most affluent location in the city, situated close to Bucharest which is host to many of the major tourist attractions. The Colosseum Center will have a fantastic transport provision. Over €30m is being spent on improving the highways and infrastructure to the scheme, including a new three lane highway to the centre to ensure swift entry into the site.The scheme will also have a brand new bus station and tram station providing easy access for the majority of the residents ^^ Basement http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6131/75511194wl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Ground http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2900/39042954dc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) First http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4807/19369108so1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Second http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6993/52468511ca9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) pescarush August 17th, 2007, 02:20 PM my favourite mall in Romania: IULIUS MALL TIMISOARA http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/3524/malltimisoarazo2.jpg http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/6559/juliusmall03bh6.jpg http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/1733/img0573cp4.jpg http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/6783/2670317510035513106kerftq7.jpg http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7580/mallxb4.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3415/timisoaraiuliusmallfotoir2.jpg Jünyus Brütüs August 17th, 2007, 02:49 PM just popular ones from Istanbul! kanyon http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5647/acilis1tm9.jpg akmerkez http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4032/sa4000613hf.jpg cevahir http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/stormicy3/skm2.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/stormicy3/skm.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/stormicy3/skm3.jpg metrocity http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/stormicy/f516439e.jpg capitol http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/stormicy5/134f97108bc04ff4b0bdc93cce105e96-85.jpg nautilus http://www.tmb.org.tr/firmalar_img/93/02.jpg and we have just 2 malls in Edirne but i didnt find their pics:) by the way i always prefer stylish stores and hidden boutiques for shopping. you can find more interesting and alternative things... Cosmin August 17th, 2007, 03:21 PM Capitol, the best in Europe, right? Anto. August 17th, 2007, 03:43 PM First of all, I'd like to comment positively on the photos of these shopping malls in Bulgaria and Albania, they really look pretty and exactly "the way shopping mall should look like". What I personally don't like (this is the case with a lot of shopping malls in the ex-yu area as well) is when everything is written in English. What do you think? I mean, I'm sure "kuglanje" is not known as "bowling" in Bulgaria, right? I guess, it would be OK to have things written both in the native language and English as well, but to have everything written in English only...... I agree, they should have their names in their own language. As should the airlines! The Romanian and Albanian malls look very funky, although the idea of a mall is quite annoying and American. sun&sun August 17th, 2007, 04:02 PM Capitol, the best in Europe, right? Why the best? Akmerkez and Metrocity were awarded the best malls worldwide some years ago but Capitol? Capitol is one of the first malls in Turkey. The best currently is definitly Istanbul Kanyon: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/OLD%20PICTURES/Picture5.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/OLD%20PICTURES/Picture7.jpg http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=356541&page=5 Cosmin August 17th, 2007, 05:40 PM I agree, they should have their names in their own language. As should the airlines! The Romanian and Albanian malls look very funky, although the idea of a mall is quite annoying and American. Airlines are a different matter all together... at least the more important ones. Plus, I don't mind English, as long as they don't use funky names. And what's up with malls being annoying and American?! I don't have a problem with American things and concepts... in general. The problem in Romania, and I think it also extends to the whole Eastern Europe (God, I hate screwing up geography like that, but it seems Romania's in EE as far as SSC is concerned :lol: ) is that they're two kinds of people: one that hate malls because they either can't afford what they sell, or maybe they have some commie ideas of what comercial centers should be like... and the others that regard malls as some sort of high society thingy. And of course, people from the last category tend to dress like they go to wedding or something and act stupid when going to the mall. I f**king hate them! Still, few people take the mall concept as is, and understand it's just a more convenient, somewhat refined way of commerce and services. However, I sense things are changing... I just take malls as is. I like the thing I can have all sort of services and shops in the same space, and I don't consider the prices to be that high. After all, most of the time you get what you pay. sun&sun, I think I've read it in a newspaper a year ago. But I know things are changing and those awards are not set in stone. It was more of a way to ask if Capitol is still (regarded as) the best... we_shine August 17th, 2007, 08:13 PM Existing: STARY BROWAR, Poznan (The old brewery) http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0002/18968_2.jpg http://img129.echo.cx/img129/3335/sb64ru.jpg http://img129.echo.cx/img129/3034/sb56kr.jpg http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0002/18971_2.jpg just devoloped second stage (was opened couple months ago) http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/mateq/brow3.jpg http://img219.echo.cx/img219/8310/sb57jj.jpg ZLOTE TARASY, Warsaw (The Golden Terraces) http://a927.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/17/l_e54473199c57a60267806d37a962442e.jpg http://a321.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/50/l_65789db6e9932c50d7c6d7b5643dd200.jpg http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/11752/wp_zel_zlote_tarasy_05.jpeg http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/11753/wp_zel_zlote_tarasy_37.jpeg http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Srodmiescie/ZloteTarasy/2007-02-07_-_009_-_Warszawa_-_Zlote_tarasy_-_otwarcie.jpg http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2381/image53lt8.jpg http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Srodmiescie/ZloteTarasy/2007-02-07_-_019_-_Warszawa_-_Zlote_tarasy_-_otwarcie.jpg http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Srodmiescie/ZloteTarasy/2007-02-07_-_025_-_Warszawa_-_Zlote_tarasy_-_otwarcie.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/3892/z3892497X.jpg Jünyus Brütüs August 17th, 2007, 08:37 PM Capitol, the best in Europe, right? capitol is the shopping centre of my childhood:D probably one of the oldest large mall in Istanbul but i dont think its best and dont know what europe thinks about it, maybe it awarded before?? but probably Kanyon is the best in Europe. Jünyus Brütüs August 17th, 2007, 08:38 PM by the way i liked that shopping centre in Poznan, it looks stylish and different. we_shine August 17th, 2007, 10:04 PM MANUFAKTURA, Lodz http://galeria.fabrykancka.info/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4402&g2_serialNumber=3 http://galeria.fabrykancka.info/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3904&g2_serialNumber=2 http://hodowca.blox.pl/resource/DSCF8374.JPG http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/smar/obwodnica%20Pily/IMG_2523.jpg http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/3349/z3349929G.jpg http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1982/stitched0021ta.jpg http://images1.fotosik.pl/85/c225508fdd14a31f.jpg http://www.k13.com.pl/lodz/m6.jpg http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7578/170420060369ht.jpg pescarush August 17th, 2007, 11:05 PM this is art already:cheers: Dux Uxorum August 18th, 2007, 12:29 AM "Airlines are a different matter all together... at least the more important ones. Plus, I don't mind English, as long as they don't use funky names. And what's up with malls being annoying and American?! I don't have a problem with American things and concepts... in general. The problem in Romania, and I think it also extends to the whole Eastern Europe (God, I hate screwing up geography like that, but it seems Romania's in EE as far as SSC is concerned ) is that they're two kinds of people: one that hate malls because they either can't afford what they sell, or maybe they have some commie ideas of what comercial centers should be like... and the others that regard malls as some sort of high society thingy. And of course, people from the last category tend to dress like they go to wedding or something and act stupid when going to the mall. I f**king hate them! Still, few people take the mall concept as is, and understand it's just a more convenient, somewhat refined way of commerce and services. However, I sense things are changing... I just take malls as is. I like the thing I can have all sort of services and shops in the same space, and I don't consider the prices to be that high. After all, most of the time you get what you pay. sun&sun, I think I've read it in a newspaper a year ago. But I know things are changing and those awards are not set in stone. It was more of a way to ask if Capitol is still (regarded as) the best..." _________________________________________________________________ The problem is not that wherever-the-mall-is has the English name, let's say "Mall of Romania", but why all the services are written in English only? You know, things like "gifts, bowling, restaurant, flowers," etc. I guess every 80+ year old granny from EE speaks and reads fluent English? And where does it end? Why shouldn't we all just make the English an official language in all of our countries and proudly display our "bad copy" AKA "desperately wanting to be a colony" signs all over the shopping malls and public locations? As for the other things in your post, I also find it hilarious when people get dressed up to go shopping, I mean it's not like you're trying to impress someone, right? bgrs August 18th, 2007, 12:43 AM BG_PATRIOT, Riofisa's project is not the largest in Sofia. The Danaos project in Mladost is a bit larger, 260.000 sq.m. You know, things like "gifts, bowling, restaurant, flowers," etc. I guess every 80+ year old granny from EE speaks and reads fluent English? And where does it end? Why shouldn't we all just make the English an official language in all of our countries and proudly display our "bad copy" AKA "desperately wanting to be a colony" signs all over the shopping malls and public locations? Err..dunno, at least in the Bulgarian malls I've been to, all the signs were in Bulgarian. Anyway, those idiot English names of the malls are really annoying :( BG_PATRIOT August 18th, 2007, 12:51 AM BG_PATRIOT, Riofisa's project is not the largest in Sofia. The Danaos project in Mladost is a bit larger, 260.000 sq.m. I have never heard about Danaos...or atleast I don't remember.Do you have any renders or information about it? bgrs August 18th, 2007, 01:03 AM I can't find renders, anyway here are some links: http://www.indeximoti.bg/show.php?storyid=313808 http://www.stroitelstvo.info/show.php?storyid=327123 I think their project will be in cooperation with Eurocapital, but I'm not quite sure.. http://www.eurocapitalfin.com/?id=5&lang=en Cosmin August 18th, 2007, 01:12 AM I though you were only talking of the mall names. The rest is almost always written in Romanian here... except bowling... you can only translate it as "popice", but popice is a bit different from bowling... from what I know. Never saw "flowers", only "flori". However I saw "gifts" instead of "cadouri" and even "gelato" instead of "îngheţată". I for one don't mind... in fact, I couldn't care less about what language they use. As long as it's not Arabic or some Asian language (can't handle the alphabet) it's fine with me. If I don't know what it means, I'll look up the word. No problemo! But yeah, for some people that's a problem... and I understand that. Why shouldn't we all just make the English an official language in all of our countries and proudly display our "bad copy" AKA "desperately wanting to be a colony" signs all over the shopping malls and public locations? And yeah, I'm fine with speaking English... in fact, I think English is more efficient than Romanian and many other languages. I see no problem in speaking any language you like, as long as your partner understands what you're saying. Some may call it "trendy" or "being a wise guy" or whatever, but I don't really belive in any kind of borders so why should I limit myself to talking my native language, in my country with Romanians? I know that's not the point here, but you brought it up and I think it's an interesting discussion, though off-topic.:nuts: I'm now trying to really learn French, as I'm a noob at it. :lol: I really like Złote Tarasy, that mall in Poznan and Manufaktura. Very original mall, the one in Poznan, and it really is something different. Wish we would have something like that over here. :( Dux Uxorum August 18th, 2007, 06:58 AM Cosmin, I'm glad you took my message in a positive light, as I had no "uberpatriotic" intentions and do think and act in the open-minded way myself. The previous post was related to the photos of Bulgarian and Albanian shopping malls on the first page of this thread (which, btw, really do look good + well organized) as I have seen that the words on that shopping mall in BG were all in English. As a side-note to this whole issue, I used to believe that English could (or should) possibly be the lingua franca for all of the mankind, but I have stopped thinking that way after working for a long time for the world-renown international organization where I had many a chance to be shocked by how primitive, close-minded and sometimes downright racist some of our dear modern Western European (Brits included) and American colleagues were. It was also interesting to note how jealously proud these people are of their native languages and that was sort of an eye-opener for me. Combined with tremendous amounts of history and culture that EE has, I personally have no desire to put any language in front of my own anymore. Thus I don't believe that we should just accept everything that comes along with the "globalization" and certainly not to neglect our own cultures for the sake of some fat-ass retired hunter from Iowa on his first trip to Greece. I do not want to digress from the idea of this thread so I'll stop here as I am sure you get my point. :) RawLee August 18th, 2007, 01:03 PM anything this big?: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1641/c0000alaplegifotomm7.jpg Size: 65,000 sq m 2 floors Under construction nebunul August 18th, 2007, 01:12 PM ^^ Cotroceni Park - approx 210.000 sqm (GLA - 75000 sqm) U/C - http://www.cotrocenipark.ro/ http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=14599785&postcount=392 Found this map ... 8 more malls/shopping centers in Bucharest (most U/C and some approved) http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/5160/24391445fe9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I think the biggest one will be Cotroceni Park - approx 210.000 mp http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3018/111bz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2202/111be4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) pescarush August 18th, 2007, 01:52 PM "Airlines are a different matter all together... at least the more important ones. Plus, I don't mind English, as long as they don't use funky names. And what's up with malls being annoying and American?! I don't have a problem with American things and concepts... in general. The problem in Romania, and I think it also extends to the whole Eastern Europe (God, I hate screwing up geography like that, but it seems Romania's in EE as far as SSC is concerned ) is that they're two kinds of people: one that hate malls because they either can't afford what they sell, or maybe they have some commie ideas of what comercial centers should be like... and the others that regard malls as some sort of high society thingy. And of course, people from the last category tend to dress like they go to wedding or something and act stupid when going to the mall. I f**king hate them! Still, few people take the mall concept as is, and understand it's just a more convenient, somewhat refined way of commerce and services. However, I sense things are changing... I just take malls as is. I like the thing I can have all sort of services and shops in the same space, and I don't consider the prices to be that high. After all, most of the time you get what you pay. sun&sun, I think I've read it in a newspaper a year ago. But I know things are changing and those awards are not set in stone. It was more of a way to ask if Capitol is still (regarded as) the best..." _________________________________________________________________ The problem is not that wherever-the-mall-is has the English name, let's say "Mall of Romania", but why all the services are written in English only? You know, things like "gifts, bowling, restaurant, flowers," etc. I guess every 80+ year old granny from EE speaks and reads fluent English? And where does it end? Why shouldn't we all just make the English an official language in all of our countries and proudly display our "bad copy" AKA "desperately wanting to be a colony" signs all over the shopping malls and public locations? As for the other things in your post, I also find it hilarious when people get dressed up to go shopping, I mean it's not like you're trying to impress someone, right? hey, let s say i m an american and i m coming in u re country to invest in a mall project. because i have no time and i wanna use u re profitable rates i m bringing a mall project and concept from US and adapted it here, @u re country. what do u say about it? i think the problem is not the language,english is another way of better communication between people, but our identity as a country, as a culture, way of life. and everybody that gets into my land has to respect my values, my culture, my life. Cosmin August 18th, 2007, 02:12 PM RawLee, nice view of Keleti. :) pescarush...aaand?! How's that hurting Romanian culture and way of life? It's a shopping mall, ffs! And what type of values you, as an American, need to respect in Romania if you wanna invest? Not build malls? Build malls that look like Obor now? The way we do commerce, as Romanians, is not something to brag about. Our values in commerce are at 19th century level, at best... if it weren't for the West, we'd still be like that. In fact, that type of commerce is still very wide spread. I'm sorry, but that's one point where I can only wish for more "disrespect" for "values" from investors. But maybe I got you wrong and that's not what you meant. Klausenburg August 18th, 2007, 02:29 PM hey, let s say i m an american and i m coming in u re country to invest in a mall project. because i have no time and i wanna use u re profitable rates i m bringing a mall project and concept from US and adapted it here, @u re country. what do u say about ii? I say it will be a crap.Here in EE we gave a great history and tradition, we are not comming from trees!I don't know much about neibourgh countrys but in Romania many foreign tourists are amazed by the way Traditional gates, houses or monastrys are built.I don't understand why we are not using these resources to customize the arhitecture of malls. Look at Manufaktura in Lodz or Stary Browar in Poznan! When history meets modernity the result can be awesome!Languge is not important...if we call a shopping centre smth like 'Mare Adunare de Magazine':laugh: :laugh: :lol: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/lol.gif :lol: or 'Mall' it doesn't make that center to look better or to be more atractive:lol: Anyway...there are two malls in project in Baia Mare( the main city in the county of Maramures where are those wellknown traditional gates):Atrium Center and Gold Plazza( I hope to find some pics...)Why thy are not using a traditional gate, or smth that reminds us about? Would't be a good ideea? I belive that shopping centers arhitecture should be inspired more by local tradition... Jünyus Brütüs August 18th, 2007, 02:31 PM This is the problem in Turkey too. in here, Americans or western europeans do not built malls(of corse chains like carrefour, real have foreign objects) all malls, shopping centers built by our own firms and our own money but still we give English names or absurd Latin, French names! why? because they sound better or attract more people? i dont think so... hopefully things are changing. our most famous and biggest malls named in Turkish and they are very sensitive for usage of Turkish. Kanyon is not with "C" like Canyon but its in Turkish Kanyon or Cevahir, Akmerkez for example! Klausenburg August 18th, 2007, 02:42 PM Why the best? Akmerkez and Metrocity were awarded the best malls worldwide some years ago but Capitol? Capitol is one of the first malls in Turkey. The best currently is definitly Istanbul Kanyon: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/OLD%20PICTURES/Picture5.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/OLD%20PICTURES/Picture7.jpg http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=356541&page=5 Kanyon isn't the second mall largest mall in Europe? More pics with Kanyon if it is posible pls. pescarush August 18th, 2007, 02:58 PM RawLee, nice view of Keleti. :) pescarush...aaand?! How's that hurting Romanian culture and way of life? It's a shopping mall, ffs! And what type of values you, as an American, need to respect in Romania if you wanna invest? Not build malls? Build malls that look like Obor now? The way we do commerce, as Romanians, is not something to brag about. Our values in commerce are at 19th century level, at best... if it weren't for the West, we'd still be like that. In fact, that type of commerce is still very wide spread. I'm sorry, but that's one point where I can only wish for more "disrespect" for "values" from investors. But maybe I got you wrong and that's not what you meant. it was a question, u can interpret as u want... ...and come one, that is our value, from the communist times? can t we rebuild our values? did u forgot from where u came? i may seem traditionalist or patriotic, but is better than some foreigner s ignorance. as an architect, is my job to fight for what i believe, and i believe i can do better than some boxes or shitty designs of usual malls. yes, those malls in Poland are good example. oh, and Iulius Mall in timisoara, too.:) Jünyus Brütüs August 18th, 2007, 03:03 PM Kanyon isn't the second mall largest mall in Europe? More pics with Kanyon if it is posible pls. No, dont think Kanyon is second largest mall in Europe but im not sure too. Cevahir is the largest mall in Europe. anyway here is the photos http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/136_3665.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/136_3699.jpg http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/5157/burckanyon15073bb.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/136_3607.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/136_3602.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/Istanbullu/136_3668.jpg http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/66/33773110012c5982906oig4.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/OLD%20PICTURES/Picture13.jpg Klausenburg August 18th, 2007, 03:10 PM hey, let s say i m an american and i m coming in u re country to invest in a mall project. because i have no time and i wanna use u re profitable rates i m bringing a mall project and concept from US and adapted it here, @u re country. what do u say about ii? I say it will be a crap.Here in EE we gave a great history and tradition, we are not comming from trees!I don't know much about neibourgh countrys but in Romania many foreign tourists are amazed by the way Traditional gates, houses or monastrys are built.I don't understand why we are not using these resources to customize the arhitecture of malls. Look at Manufaktura in Lodz or Stary Browar in Poznan! When history meets modernity the result can be awesome!Languge is not important...if we call a shopping centre smth like 'Mare Adunare de Magazine':laugh: :laugh: :lol: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/lol.gif :lol: or 'Mall' it doesn't make that center to look better or to be more atractive:lol: Anyway...there are two malls in project in Baia Mare( the main city in the county of Maramures where are those wellknown traditional gates):Atrium Center and Gold Plazza( I hope to find some pics...)Why thy are not using a traditional gate, or smth that reminds us about? Would't be a good ideea? I belive that shopping centers arhitecture should be inspired more by local tradition... I'm curious, how many good examples of malls with the name or design made in a way that respect local tradition are in this part of Europe? Cosmin August 18th, 2007, 03:22 PM pescarush, I thought you have a problem with the type of commerce in malls. Seems you we're only referring to malls' design. I agree with you on this point. We have some shity designs, especially in Bucharest. Now I understand what you were talking about. :lol: I was talking about the type of commerce in Obor, not about the commie hosting the department store. We have boxes mainly cause they use the structure of the former "Hunger Circus" buildings... but new ones are generally just as boxy.:ohno: I like both the modern type malls like Złote Tarasy and Kanyon and the ones like Manufaktura. pescarush August 18th, 2007, 03:51 PM I'm curious, how many good examples of malls with the name or design made in a way that respect local tradition are in this part of Europe? 0 anyway, there are some ideas to transform the old building of Port Constanta into a mall, keeping the architecture of the monument and transforming the interior. somehow like in case of Manufaktura in Lodz. but i dunno, Trident Plaza is close, so Tomis Mall. ufonut August 18th, 2007, 07:11 PM Better photos to fully comprehend the beauty of Stary Browar. http://www.fotogaleria.tutej.pl/img.php?i=fo,2126,640,1500,1180163660 http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9611/szachownicaje8.jpg http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6306/p1100645bn7.jpg http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2861/p1100664zp6.jpg http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7589/dscf32114px.jpg http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8558/dscf32321qi.jpg http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1637/dscf32810bf.jpg http://images2.fotosik.pl/32/5ry03e21tp80tuld.jpg http://images4.fotosik.pl/7/bxq6xgyuokok227r.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp01.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp02.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp03.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp05.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp06.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp07.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp08.jpg http://www.stargard.pl/files/newsy/2006/bp09.jpg http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0002/18969_2.jpg http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0002/18970_2.jpg http://www.tutej.pl/pliki/cms/3889/img_7015.jpg http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4700/nowystarybrowar1003073hr8.jpg http://www.icpnet.pl/~matek1/sb12.jpg http://img129.echo.cx/img129/3034/sb56kr.jpg http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/8177/img1301du6.jpg http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1282/p1100661tn0.jpg http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9156/p1100651tr9.jpg http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7184/62567547db5.jpg http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/5207/54993226ge6.jpg http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/7919/1003190zy2.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mcl_stary_browar_widok_na_park.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mcl_stary_browar_dziedziniec_1.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mcl_stary_browar_dziedziniec_2.jpg http://studiopg.com/foty/multikino/subs_multkino01.jpg http://images21.fotosik.pl/330/902a7382a28d0d2f.jpg http://www.fotogaleria.tutej.pl/img.php?i=fo,2147,640,1500,1180218061 http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mclP1020441starybrowar.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mclP1020446starybrowar.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mclP1020445starybrowar.jpg http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/8mclaren8/mclP1020465starybrowar.jpg Kapedani August 18th, 2007, 08:00 PM Poland and Turkey seem to be out of this world...awesome stuff!! Cracovia August 18th, 2007, 09:21 PM Yeah apparently we have the most sq meters of Shopping malls u/c in the EU. i am not sure if this is still acurat as i read it 6 or 7 months ago. Делян August 18th, 2007, 11:23 PM Cevahir is the largest mall in Europe. When did Turkey become part of Europe? :nuts: Did I miss something? RawLee August 19th, 2007, 01:13 AM When did Turkey become part of Europe? :nuts: Did I miss something? A lot. You havent following the European threads,have you?Israel is now in Europe! Turkey is now in central europe,and Poland is now Scandinavian. Cosmin August 19th, 2007, 01:35 AM Well, Cevahir is located in the Şişli district of Istanbul. Şişli is on the European part of Istanbul, so technicaly, Cevahir really is in Europe and it's also the largest mall in Europe. :) Btw, the one with Poland being Scandinavian cracked me up. :lol: sun&sun August 19th, 2007, 03:43 PM When did Turkey become part of Europe? :nuts: Did I miss something? Did you get your answer? I am member of this forum for 5 years and I guess I'll hear this again and again. Why don't you just have a look on a map or don't you see that Turkey is part of the euroscrapers? Klausenburg August 19th, 2007, 04:56 PM Well, Cevahir is located in the Şişli district of Istanbul. Şişli is on the European part of Istanbul, so technicaly, Cevahir really is in Europe and it's also the largest mall in Europe. :) Btw, the one with Poland being Scandinavian cracked me up. :lol: Do smb have some pics of Cevahir? And info's like GLA, number of stores, the developer...and so on? sun&sun August 19th, 2007, 06:24 PM This is Cevahir: 358,000m2 http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/TR/IMG_6536.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/stormicy3/cev1.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/stormicy3/cev4.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5640/merekdscf4982vt4.jpg sun&sun August 19th, 2007, 06:49 PM Btw I just realized: Oldest mall, Grand Bazaar (1461) http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5065/khavadanb2476d5fw4.jpg http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6473/kc1hj6.jpg http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4652/kc2wj3.jpg http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5940/kc3tx2.jpg http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/2820/kc4uo2.jpg Biggest mall, Cehavir: 350,000 m² http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b226/BJV5/TR/IMG_6536.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b148/stormicy3/cev4.jpg Coolest, Istanbul Kanyon :D I'm in love with Kanyon!! :cheers: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1571/kanyon1yn5.jpg http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1630/kanyon2jr7.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9887/kanyon4aq7.jpg http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4043/kanyon5ls2.jpg http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4836/kanyon3ub7.jpg http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9053/kanyon6cm6.jpg Klausenburg August 19th, 2007, 10:27 PM Atrium Center Baia Mare will be a commercial center located on the western side of the city. The mall will contain a wide range of shopping and entertainment facilities on over 40 000 sq m. Main features: * Approx. 40,000 sq m GLA of modern shopping space, * Over 110 shops and hypermarkets on 2 levels, * An entertainment area with a multiplex cinema, bowling alley and fitness center, * Coffee shops, restaurants, * A parking lot with 1100 parking places, * The catchment area includes Maramures County, with approx. 510, 000 inhabitants, * Opening date: Q1 2009. Atrium Center Satu Mare will be a commercial and entertainment center located in the heart of the city, between Henri Coanda Boulevard and Corvinilor Street with an excellent visibility and easy accessibility. The mall will contain over 135 shops, a multiplex cinema, plenty of cafés and restaurants and a playground for the children. Main features: * Approx. 30, 000 sq m GLA of modern shopping space, * Over 135 shops and hypermarkets, * An entertainment area with a multiplex cinema, fitness center and a playground, * Coffee shops, restaurants, * A parking lot with 900 parking places, * The catchment area includes Satu Mare county with approx. 373,000 inhabitants. Klausenburg August 19th, 2007, 10:29 PM Atrium Center Cluj is a shopping and entertainment centre, located in the heart of Cluj, a city of 318 000 inhabitants. The site has a generous frontage to the main route, offering a very good visibility. Main Features: * approx. 32,000 sq m GLA of modern shopping space * 10,000 sq m "A class" office facilities * a four star hotel of some 150 rooms * total built up area reaching over 96,000 sq m * 120 shops on ground floor level, first floor and second floor and entertainment area on the terrace level * main anchors are represented by a supermarket (2,200 sq m), electrical goods (1,240 sq m), many international fashion brands, multiplex cinema and bowling club * the entertainment area includes an 8 to 10 screen cinema, bowling alleys, games and a fitness club * food court will be located on the second floor and will include fast-food units, restaurants and several coffee shops * the scheme will provide parking places on the underground level * catchment area includes Cluj County with a population of 684,000 * opening date: Q1 2009 Klausenburg August 19th, 2007, 10:34 PM Atrium Center Arad is a shopping mall scheme organized on three levels. The shopping mall will contain about 150 retail units. Main Features: * approx. 27,000 sq m GLA of modern shopping space * total built up area reaching over 68,000 sq m * 150 retail units on three levels * main anchors: supermarket, black & white, large and medium fashion units * entertainment area includes a 4 to 6 screen multiplex cinema, bowling, electronic games, fitness center and children playground * food court with restaurants and cafeterias will be located on the second floor * the scheme will include over 700 parking places * catchment area includes Arad County with a population of 462,000 * opening date: Q1 2009 Делян August 20th, 2007, 03:35 AM Did you get your answer? I am member of this forum for 5 years and I guess I'll hear this again and again. Why don't you just have a look on a map or don't you see that Turkey is part of the euroscrapers? dude, You could have been a member for 55 years. That doesn't mean that the geography changes. Делян August 20th, 2007, 03:37 AM Poland and Turkey seem to be out of this world...awesome stuff!! Love the comparison! Делян August 20th, 2007, 03:40 AM A lot. You havent following the European threads,have you?Israel is now in Europe! Turkey is now in central europe,and Poland is now Scandinavian. I wonder what's next? sun&sun August 20th, 2007, 09:25 AM dude, You could have been a member for 55 years. That doesn't mean that the geography changes. What's your education level or in which country did you get your education? Normaly a child of 12 years should know that Istanbul is located on two continents. gamayun August 20th, 2007, 10:05 AM When did Turkey become part of Europe? :nuts: Did I miss something? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=474450 :D:D bgrs August 20th, 2007, 10:38 AM Probably for each development going on in Istanbul we should explicitly ask whether it's in the European or the Asian part...just joking :) Anyway, sometimes there are funny examples connected with the "Turkey in Europe" issue. For example, near Kusadasi, there is an aquapark which is claimed to be "The Europe's largest aquapark"...however it's located about 300 km away from Europe :) Делян August 20th, 2007, 05:49 PM http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=474450 :D:D This link is not even in English. What do you expect me to read from the link? Делян August 20th, 2007, 05:51 PM What's your education level or in which country did you get your education? Normaly a child of 12 years should know that Istanbul is located on two continents. I have 2 PhD's in Asia Minor Geography! :banana: sun&sun August 20th, 2007, 06:16 PM Even worse then that you don't know such a simple thing. sun&sun August 20th, 2007, 06:27 PM Probably for each development going on in Istanbul we should explicitly ask whether it's in the European or the Asian part...just joking :) Anyway, sometimes there are funny examples connected with the "Turkey in Europe" issue. For example, near Kusadasi, there is an aquapark which is claimed to be "The Europe's largest aquapark"...however it's located about 300 km away from Europe :) Well actualy Kusdasi is located 1,56km away from European land. http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/724/kusadasioz9.jpg and 1524 km more western than Armenia for example which is accepted as european! http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4348/unbzh1.jpg You see talking about Turkey's geographical location doesn't have any sense :nuts: bgrs August 20th, 2007, 06:39 PM Whoa, I didn't think about that :) Yes, I knew Samos was close, I even used the Greek GSM service, but didn't know it's so close :) We even asked a local shopkeeper about it, but he assured us it was the Turkish coast, not Samos...perhaps we've got lost in translation :) Jünyus Brütüs August 20th, 2007, 06:41 PM is that aquapark really large? LEAFS FANATIC August 20th, 2007, 06:55 PM The Mall Athens: http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3084/7623738787651104986olarsg7.jpg http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4582/7176165713725b536eolargtx9.jpg http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8775/7176231193ab603e6aolargzb5.jpg http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/4702/272376992af143b07eeblarsb5.jpg View from the food court: http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2732/483848929fd9e50f9deblarkw8.jpg Metro Stop for Mall: http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7531/717622023203f71403olargov2.jpg http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1898/892302438a51bfcb99blargui4.jpg http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6439/402262256cddefbcba3blarhn5.jpg http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4650/446282768033f031fc4blarfe8.jpg Bonus: Mall in Kolonaki, Athens: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6827/3081747894a18655bb5olarbj6.jpg Mall in Kifissia, Athens: http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4100/358288799c1a23d219bblarns5.jpg gamayun August 21st, 2007, 01:16 AM This link is not even in English. What do you expect me to read from the link? Slike govore dovoljno... Zivis u europskoj prcvarnici a usuđujes se da određujes ko je Europljanin a ko ne. :\ SouthernEuropean August 21st, 2007, 01:27 AM nice Leafs Делян August 21st, 2007, 03:20 AM Slike govore dovoljno... Zivis u europskoj prcvarnici a usuđujes se da određujes ko je Europljanin a ko ne. :\ My answer to you is: Vzdgfhfytur hgt ljhjhkj jhkjhujl;'lkl! Khjhjhg gfpop ghjhgh! Ouipipoi ytuytui hgjhgy??? Rjjhgjhg m,,mnmkl bvhghg??? :bash: Good luck with the translation! Делян August 21st, 2007, 03:24 AM Leafs, thanks for the refreshment here! we really needed some real European malls unlike the "biggest European" mall in............................Turkey! Jünyus Brütüs August 21st, 2007, 01:35 PM i wish the best for you and your lovely southern neighbour;):D Jünyus Brütüs August 21st, 2007, 02:02 PM here is another concept from Istanbul - Meydan Umraniye http://www.metro-mam.pl/presse/Umraniye%20337%20x%20253.jpghttp://www.metro-mam.pl/presse/V2%20Umraniye%20400%20x%20300.jpg http://www.metro-mam.pl/presse/V3%20Umraniye%20400%20x%20300.jpg http://www.metro-mam.pl/presse/V6%20Umraniye%20400%20x%20300.jpg U/C http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/25453/2005911558885388106_rs.jpg http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/24882/2001476203127951730_rs.jpg http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/24398/2001436462807445586_rs.jpg http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/26328/2001452735495814932_rs.jpg they will plant flowers and small trees later... sun&sun August 21st, 2007, 05:51 PM Leafs, thanks for the refreshment here! we really needed some real European malls unlike the "biggest European" mall in............................Turkey! Just shut up if you can't build the biggest or the most trendy malls instead of trying to make these malls look asian although they are 100% on European continent ;) :cheers: Jünyus Brütüs August 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM what is asian looking mall? are they have slant windows and darker or yellowish facades?:D sun&sun August 21st, 2007, 07:16 PM yes :D nebunul August 23rd, 2007, 07:43 PM This is Cevahir: 358,000m2 Casa Radio - Bucharest Plaza holds a 75% stake in a company which has entered into a public-private partnership agreement with the Government of Romania to develop the approximately US$1 billion Casa Radio (Dambovica) scheme in Bucharest, the largest development plot available in the city centre. The Romanian Government will remain a 15% partner in the scheme as well as additional third party (10%). The acquisition, which was described in the Company's IPO prospectus, is a further demonstration of Plaza's leading position in the CEE region. The Casa Radio development sits on a 9.195 hectare (22.7 acre) site located in central Bucharest, incorporating a large area of the Bucharest city centre. Gara de Nord, the city's main railway station is nearby as well as the adjacent Eroilor Metro Station and a number of trolley bus services which serve the site. The development of Casa Radio comprises approximately 360,000sqm :banana: :nuts: , including: A 132,000 sqm shopping mall and leisure centre (one of the largest in Europe) residential area hotel, casino hypermarket convention and conference hall. Furthermore, two 135 metre tall towers of 53,000 sqm each, which once completed, will be among the tallest buildings in Bucharest. Project status: Planning and initial construction. http://www.plazacenters.com/casa_radio.html And a few pictures from that site on Casa Radio. I guess it is the demolition team that does the work right now. :cheers: http://www.plazacenters.com/projectimages/other/casa_radio_0.jpg http://www.plazacenters.com/projectimages/other/casa_radio_1.jpg http://www.plazacenters.com/projectimages/other/casa_radio_2.jpg http://www.plazacenters.com/projectimages/other/casa_radio_3.jpg http://www.plazacenters.com/projectimages/other/casa_radio_4.jpg http://www.plazacenters.com/projectimages/other/casa_radio_5.jpg Jünyus Brütüs August 23rd, 2007, 09:19 PM 360,000sqm :banana: :nuts: , including: A 132,000 sqm shopping mall and leisure centre (one of the largest in Europe) residential area hotel, casino hypermarket convention and conference hall. But Cevahir is just shopping centre, whole 358,000 sqm including just shopping centre, its not a complex. anyway great development:cheers: Klausenburg August 24th, 2007, 08:06 AM Iulius Mall Timisoara, another pick. Waiting for Iulius Mall Cluj (opening in 20 october!) http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1498/197005298436f8064c4li3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) fshatari August 24th, 2007, 08:08 AM not to be a di*k but why are there pics from turkey and greece here? This is an eastern european section, if we went to the other sections like the turkish forum and greek one, and started posting pictures of our malls, wouldn't they be deleted? Klausenburg August 24th, 2007, 08:31 AM Iulius Mall Timisoara, the most beautiful mall in Romania! http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/224/506375802db13dc90f3zr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2814/88953583900f9e70f37dm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2814/88953583900f9e70f37dm5.255a8fbd96.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=530&i=88953583900f9e70f37dm5.jpg)/img] [IMG]http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5340/248109287a4003fb462ee0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5570/248110096a9f3f06923yr0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3364/35988328693f90c71dewk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 08:32 AM Well you can't post pictures of EE countries in the Turkish/Greek forum but we can since both are located in easntern europe? Why do some forumers still have problems with that? fshatari August 24th, 2007, 08:38 AM BECAUSE, you two have your own little sections...from what i see every country has their own section except albania, macedonia...and idk who else i'm missing. so i'm just wondering why this is? If anything, leave the name eastern europe, right the countries names underneath the title, and that's it...period. 7t August 24th, 2007, 08:39 AM Well you can't post pictures of EE countries in the Turkish/Greek forum but we can since both are located in easntern europe? Why do some forumers still have problems with that? Turkey is not located in Eastern Europe and neither is Greece fshatari August 24th, 2007, 08:52 AM as though one part of the forum is not enough bgrs August 24th, 2007, 09:01 AM Technically speaking, 97% of Turkey is located in Asia, while only 3% is situated in Europe, so why is the Turkish forum situated in European scrapers section anyway? :) Even Russia in geography terms is mostly an Asian country :) fshatari August 24th, 2007, 09:04 AM that's not even my point...i'm talking about other countries as well, countries that have their own sub forums now and yet still post their pictures here...i would be ok with it if i could put pics of albanian places in their forum? But we're not allowed to It's like they have 2 sub forums, like they can post pics here any time they feel like it Klausenburg August 24th, 2007, 09:05 AM Moldova Mall Iasi http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8930/hpim0081th9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Euromall Pitesti http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4645/pitestimallpitestikr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Lotus Market Oradea http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5249/lotus1bd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)/img] [IMG]http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8391/lotusmarketdx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Macro Mall Brasov http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/214/macromallvr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Corneliu August 24th, 2007, 12:11 PM MacroMall, what a name:nuts: Делян August 24th, 2007, 01:11 PM Turkey is not located in Eastern Europe and neither is Greece Where is Greece located? Southern Europe? dejan August 24th, 2007, 01:23 PM Technically speaking, 97% of Turkey is located in Asia, while only 3% is situated in Europe, so why is the Turkish forum situated in European scrapers section anyway? :) Even Russia in geography terms is mostly an Asian country :) Turkey is a part of Europe whether you or anyone else doesn't like it. MacroMall, what a name:nuts: Yeah strange name hehe Делян August 24th, 2007, 01:25 PM Turkey is a part of Europe whether you or anyone else doesn't like it. Who decides what Europe's borders are? bgrs August 24th, 2007, 01:27 PM Ok. Israel too :) 7t August 24th, 2007, 01:28 PM Turkey is a part of Europe whether you or anyone else doesn't like it. 91% of Turkey's territory including its capital are located in Asia Делян August 24th, 2007, 01:32 PM Ok. Israel too :) Yeah! Right! Klausenburg August 24th, 2007, 01:41 PM C'mon guys, we are discussing about malls or about geography? sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 01:47 PM 91% of Turkey's territory including its capital are located in Asia that's why we only post malls on the european side of Turkey otherwise many forumers would begin to cry. Klausenburg August 24th, 2007, 02:26 PM I didn't start this thred for discussing about geography. So please post only about malls.No politics, no other discussions.You are smart enough to understand that.Thank you! new bulgaria August 24th, 2007, 03:33 PM Turkey is a part of Europe whether you or anyone else doesn't like it. I have noticed that Macedonians are very pro Turkish. Why is that? Turnovec August 24th, 2007, 03:38 PM I have noticed that Macedonians are very pro Turkish. Why is that? Maybe this old story (http://www.multidesign.com.mk/znb/) will let you know why :) sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 04:28 PM I didn't start this thred for discussing about geography. So please post only about malls.No politics, no other discussions.You are smart enough to understand that.Thank you! OK, here two new ones u/c. It's the european part of Istanbul! Are you guys content with that? Deepo Center: http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4449/depoo3pn4.jpg http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3135/depoovn3.jpg http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/839/depoo2jv7.jpg http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5807/deepo4cy4.jpg Istinye Park: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c347/stormicy4/istinyepark.png http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/stormicy5/istinyepark3.png http://www.istinyepark.com/img_gallery/gallery/grand/05.jpg http://www.istinyepark.com/img_gallery/gallery/grand/03.jpg http://www.istinyepark.com/img_gallery/gallery/lifestyle/06.jpg http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6901/devrim1907dsc00029istinkx8.jpg Diamond of Istanbul: First 5 floors will be a mall with gigiantic aquarium and sharks inside :cheers: :cheers: http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/21120/2000155398316089156_rs.jpg http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2663/dioty9.jpg Sapphire Istanbul: 5 underground floors+the entrance will be a mall. http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/299/safirrroi5.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/1-3.jpg Mecidiyeköy: Again with a mall http://www.tasyapi.com/images/projeler/22/1b.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/Projects/05qx2.jpg http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9245/01jk5.jpg Büyükada Istanbul: http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/Projects/b-3.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/Projects/f.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/Projects/c-2.jpg http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2594/buyukadaro3.jpg Meydan: Next to the project above: http://www.metro-mam.pl/presse/Umraniye%20337%20x%20253.jpg http://www.metro-mam.pl/presse/V2%20Umraniye%20400%20x%20300.jpg http://aycu25.webshots.com/image/24464/2001433142542466845_rs.jpg http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/25453/2005911558885388106_rs.jpg http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/25858/2005942131618356841_rs.jpg Dogus Center: http://www.garantigyo.com/template/default/img/proje/mainphoto/maslak_en.jpg http://www.garantigyo.com/template/default/img/proje_gm/galeri/maslak3.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/Projects/alicenk_DPCpano.jpg Turnovec August 24th, 2007, 04:30 PM ^^ btw i like very much the asian part of Istanbul ... you know that long boulevard stratching from the Fenerbahce stadium all the way east ... All the neighbourhoods there look even better than Cannes or Nice in France :cheers: delfin_pl August 24th, 2007, 04:36 PM Zlote Tarasy - Warsaw http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9130/zto29gw2.jpg http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/warszawa/zmiany/___Srodmiescie/ZloteTarasy/2007-02-07_-_006_-_Warszawa_-_Zlote_tarasy_-_otwarcie.jpg http://images14.fotosik.pl/31/04cb0bb0beff210c.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/159/zton5ti8.jpg http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5617/zton9ut2.jpg http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3019/zto30mr2.jpg http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3842/zto14sk0.jpg sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 04:57 PM ^^ btw i like very much the asian part of Istanbul ... you know that long boulevard stratching from the Fenerbahce stadium all the way east ... All the neighbourhoods there look even better than Cannes or Nice in France :cheers: You mean Bagdad Avenue but I prefer Istiklal caddesi with its ancient buildings and nostalgic tram. :cheers: But sorry I am not allowed to talk about asian Istanbul here although that street is just 5 km more eastern than the photos I posted above. sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 04:58 PM The architect of Zloty Tarasy is the same as of Istanbul Kanyon, isn't it? Jünyus Brütüs August 24th, 2007, 04:59 PM ^^ btw i like very much the asian part of Istanbul ... you know that long boulevard stratching from the Fenerbahce stadium all the way east ... All the neighbourhoods there look even better than Cannes or Nice in France :cheers: i live there:D Jünyus Brütüs August 24th, 2007, 05:03 PM I have noticed that Macedonians are very pro Turkish. Why is that? something wrong with it? btw all Bulgarians i have ever met were pro Turkish too, they were always complaint about Greece but i had an image that you guys like Turkey, never heard anything bad except in this forum. Turnovec August 24th, 2007, 05:07 PM ^^ I think i wrote before that a bulgarian would feel a lot better and welcomed in Istanbul than in Skopie or some other christian state's capitals in the region , so I personally have no problems with the turks :) Cheers, komsho :cheers: And good fr you living in that part of Istanbul ... I loved it even more than the night pubs of Taxim :D dewrob August 24th, 2007, 05:08 PM I have noticed that Macedonians are very pro Turkish. Why is that? we're not pro turkish but we have no problems with them and we have no reasons to be negative. Turkish minority (second largest) is loyal and genuenly loves Macedonia, we are always very welcome in Turkey as tourists without feeling intimidated. And U got their big influence on our culture which makes us quite compatibile. Ottoman past is far behind us... new bulgaria August 24th, 2007, 05:13 PM Turkish minority (second largest) is loyal and genuenly loves Macedonia See, I am not sure we can say the same about our minority. Certainly the scars of the past are still omnipresent today's Bulgaria. Not sharing a border with Turkey probably makes you feel more comfortable. Jünyus Brütüs August 24th, 2007, 05:14 PM ^^ I think i wrote before that a bulgarian would feel a lot better and welcomed in Istanbul than in Skopie or some other christian state's capitals in the region , so I personally have no problems with the turks :) Cheers, komsho :cheers: And good fr you living in that part of Istanbul ... I loved it even more than the night pubs of Taxim :D thats because todays Turks dont have any problem with this part of the world, we are just people work for better and healthy life and die at the end... no need to act negative or unfriendly towards other people, this is real civilization imo. btw im glad you enjoyed my neighborhood:cheers: generally tourists never come these parts of the city. sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 05:14 PM we're not pro turkish but we have no problems with them and we have no reasons to be negative. Turkish minority (second largest) is loyal and genuenly loves Macedonia, we are always very welcome in Turkey as tourists without feeling intimidated. And U got their big influence on our culture which makes us quite compatibile. Ottoman past is far behind us... That's the magic sentence but some still don't fotget things which happened 500 years ago although their grand-grand-grand-grand father didn't live back then :D Turk = Ottoman = they ruled us = we must hate them Jünyus Brütüs August 24th, 2007, 05:16 PM See, I am not sure we can say the same about our minority. Certainly the scars of the past are still omnipresent today's Bulgaria. Not sharing a border with Turkey probably makes you feel more comfortable. so you think Turkey is threat for Bulgaria's independence?:lol: Turnovec August 24th, 2007, 05:18 PM thats because todays Turks dont have any problem with this part of the world, we are just people work for better and healthy life and die at the end... no need to act negative or unfriendly towards other people, this is real civilization imo. btw im glad you enjoyed my neighborhood:cheers: generally tourists never come these parts of the city. I think it is also because Turkey is a lot larger country and the people(at least those in Istanbul) suffer from a lot fewer complexes and prejudices ... Btw - the smaller the country is on the balkans - the bigger the complexes and prejudices of the population are. :cheers: I really liked your neighbourhood. dewrob August 24th, 2007, 05:19 PM Not sharing a border with Turkey probably makes you feel more comfortable. not sharing a border on the Balkans seems to be the magic recepiee for good relations... dia August 24th, 2007, 05:59 PM Poland and Turkey are the leaders in the malls department by far in my book. so you think Turkey is threat for Bulgaria's independence?:lol: I doubt many people actually think Turkey is a thread, rather the Turkish minority in Bulgaria which is in the hands of an ex-agent from the Bulgarian equivalent of KGB. At least that's what people mostly talk. And to put everything in one post. It's not exactly a mall, but this is my personal fave in Bulgaria (didn't see someone posting it): outside (front): http://hali.big.bg/images/1b.jpg inside: http://tabisite.com/gallery_eu/bulgaria/P1020109.jpg 3tmk August 24th, 2007, 06:50 PM Turkey is NOT in Europe, so it has no place here. We only allow its Thracian parts here, and the western side of Istanbul, the same way we allow Greeks and Russians. fshatari August 24th, 2007, 06:58 PM Turkey is NOT in Europe, so it has no place here. We only allow its Thracian parts here, and the western side of Istanbul, the same way we allow Greeks and Russians. well the only reason this is weird to me is because it seems as though every country in eastern europe has their own sub forum except a few, and turkey and greece are two of the countries that DO have their own sub forums...it's not fair for them to post in two parts what if i felt like going there and posting pictures of albanian malls and beaches and mountains etc? bgrs August 24th, 2007, 07:12 PM A bit more interesting to me is what is going to happen if they decide to post photos of Greek malls in the Turkish forum or vice versa :) Anyway, that question has too much politics inside, so I'd leave it alone :) sun&sun August 24th, 2007, 07:12 PM Turkey is NOT in Europe, so it has no place here. We only allow its Thracian parts here, and the western side of Istanbul, the same way we allow Greeks and Russians. As if we had posted something from asian part of Turkey. Jünyus Brütüs August 24th, 2007, 07:15 PM well the only reason this is weird to me is because it seems as though every country in eastern europe has their own sub forum except a few, and turkey and greece are two of the countries that DO have their own sub forums...it's not fair for them to post in two parts what if i felt like going there and posting pictures of albanian malls and beaches and mountains etc? Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Serbia have their sub-forums too;) well, we only post EE part of Turkey, for example Edirne the city where i study blongs to EE i think. if its not EE so BUlgaria is not EE too because Bulgaria is 15 minutes away from Edirne by walking;) on the other hand Albania does not belong to Turkey or Greece, if you consider Albania is part of Turkey so feel free to post Albanian pics in our section too. by the way, i visit this section cuz i like and interested in Balkans, its culture, art etc... while im surfin here i just want to share what ive got too. This is too simple detail and you all exegrating, me thinks. we are living in 21th century, you all need to focus on more important and profitable things. and i just want to add only 2 or 3 Turkish forumers visit this section regularly while we have lots of forumers. If we make too much problem in here and cause trouble so i dont visit it anymore, skyscrapercity.com has lots of sections with more welcomin and regardful forumers. 3tmk August 24th, 2007, 07:25 PM fshatari, read Kafkas' post We allow anybody to post relevant information. The whole point of them having their subforum is to better expand all their talks. But this being the panEE forum, they are all welcome, in such threads as this one. The only thing we restrict forumers from Poland, Ukraine, Serbia, Bosnia and so on from doing, is using this forum for their own threads Basically, they can have their own general development thread, but only as a portfolio of some sorts, skimming over the big and best projects. No details, those are in their own forum. there is nothing wrong with malls from Edirne, or from Belgrade or Thessaloníki being posted here, since this whole thread is about the EE/B LEAFS FANATIC August 24th, 2007, 10:14 PM not to be a di*k but why are there pics from turkey and greece here? This is an eastern european section, if we went to the other sections like the turkish forum and greek one, and started posting pictures of our malls, wouldn't they be deleted? Look at the title of THIS thread: Malls in Eastern Europe / BALKANS Last time I checked, Greece is part of the Balkans. CrazySerb August 25th, 2007, 12:19 AM Whether we'd like to admit or not, most of our malls are fycking ugly (especially those Turkish ones) - but Poland, as usual, is keeping out of step with the rest of Eastern Europe, having recently built such beauties as Stary Browar(Poznan) and Zlote Terasy(Warsaw), which I had the honour to visit myself right after it opened.:yes: fshatari August 25th, 2007, 01:19 AM K fine, i didn't mean it like that it's just that i thought since these countries have their own sections, it's unfair for some countries not to even have one section while others have 2...i didn't say it out of hate or something the Turkish malls are really nice, i dont know what ur talking about crazyserb...the mall in poland is amazing though Klausenburg August 25th, 2007, 02:00 AM I found this pic of Bonarka City Center in Krakow.This is a project of TriGranit in Poland.I hope our polish friends will give us more info's about this mall. http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6209/1181807387bonarkacityceiy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6209/1181807387bonarkacityceiy8.904cacd324.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=1181807387bonarkacityceiy8.jpg) Cracovia August 25th, 2007, 03:02 AM it has a parking on the Roof to save space and is in Krakow my town lol, it will be 120 000 sq m and costs 90m euro, it will have 250 shops. http://www.trigranit.com/index.php?p=project&id=16&page=3 looks like it will have a tropical forest inside lol It will be similar to this one in Katowice built by the same company, nothing special really http://www.silesiacitycenter.com.pl/ fshatari August 25th, 2007, 03:07 AM that krakow mall is pretty cool, the parking space looks nice...it's gonna be a bitch if it snows though lol RawLee August 25th, 2007, 03:09 AM it has a parking on the Roof to save space and is in Krakow my town lol, it will be 120 000 sq m and costs 90m euro, it will have 250 shops. http://www.trigranit.com/index.php?p=project&id=16&page=3 looks like it will have a tropical forest inside lol It will be similar to this one in Katowice built by the same company, nothing special really http://www.silesiacitycenter.com.pl/ what insane designer puts a tropical forest inside a mall? why put a forest inside a mall? EDIT: just realized Im speaking against my own country's biggest construction company... ufonut August 25th, 2007, 03:19 AM Sorry but this project is a disgrace to Krakow. Robert Stark August 25th, 2007, 03:50 AM surprised no one posted this: http://www.moscow-taxi.com/images/sightseeing/red-square/gum1.jpg http://www.moscow-taxi.com/images/sightseeing/red-square/gum2.jpg http://www.richard-seaman.com/Travel/Russia/Moscow/Highlights/GumDepartmentStore.jpg http://www.richard-seaman.com/Travel/Russia/Moscow/Highlights/GumInside.jpg http://www.npointercos.jp/images/Moscow2004ssIMG_4600.jpg http://www.harvardmagazine.com/lib/02ja/images/moscow.jpg http://www.unc.edu/depts/slavic/images/gum.jpg http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/12/1214_xmassshopping/image/moscow.jpg http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=20044&rendTypeId=4 http://theatre.wayne.edu/files/Moscow2006/1269.jpg delfin_pl August 25th, 2007, 06:45 AM ^^^ beautiful Gdańsk, Poland - Manhattan Mall http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0001/10933_2.jpg http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0001/10930_2.jpg http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0001/10932_2.jpg http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8397/62file2ow.jpg http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2713/manh12ci.jpg http://images22.fotosik.pl/79/1eb4ec59109717f6.jpg delfin_pl August 25th, 2007, 06:54 AM Wrocław - Poland, Arkady Wrocławskie http://images20.fotosik.pl/336/7861e1b8d7f7743e.jpg http://images22.fotosik.pl/102/6c7e4bf647ba983a.jpg http://images21.fotosik.pl/331/1be3fe8989d94b6e.jpg http://www.panoramy.wroclaw.pl/obrazy/232739Swidnicka180207_1927Web.jpg http://www.panoramy.wroclaw.pl/obrazy/150800Arkady250207_2164_6Web.jpg http://images21.fotosik.pl/319/7606938c2ec51b01.jpg http://www.investmap.pl/var/IMG_4781_i.JPG dash wwa August 25th, 2007, 08:12 AM http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/299/safirrroi5.jpg nice project:cheers: http://images4.fotosik.pl/157/f2fcfc56d1abd60e.jpg http://images1.fotosik.pl/203/a3d6daf30c34f0d6.jpg flash mob in arkadia:) http://bi.gazeta.pl/o/a/forum/297/9/297992.jpg http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7932/babkaaa2aht7.jpg ^In the background little known skyscraper - babka tower (105m) Other from Warsaw: Blue city: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/PL_warsaw_ochota_c_h_reduta_001.JPG/450px-PL_warsaw_ochota_c_h_reduta_001.JPG http://www.supermarketnews.com.pl/graphics/pictures/6594_full.jpg http://youtube.com/watch?v=IreJhkEFcOk sun&sun August 25th, 2007, 02:44 PM Whether we'd like to admit or not, most of our malls are fycking ugly (especially those Turkish ones) - but Poland, as usual, is keeping out of step with the rest of Eastern Europe, having recently built such beauties as Stary Browar(Poznan) and Zlote Terasy(Warsaw), which I had the honour to visit myself right after it opened.:yes: I wish we had nicer malls too :( You're so right RawLee August 25th, 2007, 02:56 PM I wish we had nicer malls too :( You're so right Nicer?there will be one which is like the Titanic in the middle of Budapest..you cant get uglier than that! Metsada August 25th, 2007, 04:18 PM That's the magic sentence but some still don't fotget things which happened 500 years ago although their grand-grand-grand-grand father didn't live back then :D Turk = Ottoman = they ruled us = we must hate themAnd your point is? Same with Turks who still "hate" the British and other major European powers that attacked the Ottoman Empire, which led to its dissolution. sun&sun August 25th, 2007, 05:14 PM What do you guys prefer? Malls are shop in pedestrian areas? Cracovia August 25th, 2007, 09:36 PM http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/299/safirrroi5.jpg what is this?? 3tmk August 25th, 2007, 10:22 PM It's called a "skyscraper" fshatari August 26th, 2007, 12:04 AM yea but his point is what is it doing in this thread since it has to do with malls... cracovia, it's called false advertisement lol there's a mall at the bottom of that skyscraper Eroes August 26th, 2007, 12:21 AM It's called a "skyscraper" but seriously, can somebody can tell us more about this project sun&sun August 26th, 2007, 01:04 AM http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/299/safirrroi5.jpg what is this?? What do you mean? Cosmin August 26th, 2007, 01:19 AM That's a pretty cool skyscraper with a mall at it's base. Is that a good enough answer? Have I won anything? :lol: Cracovia August 26th, 2007, 01:21 AM where does it come from?? Where will it be built? I got a bit exited that its from Warsaw seeing as a varsovian posted it with no info, its quite a cool building Ps; its quite fashionable to put trees in buildings nower days.... Jünyus Brütüs August 26th, 2007, 01:30 AM ^^http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415467 Cracovia August 26th, 2007, 01:40 AM thank you my exitement turned into misery, well done istambul nice Tower sun&sun August 26th, 2007, 11:39 AM ^^ hehe he just quoted my post, this one is being built in Istanbul :D You thought it's somewhere in Warsaw? :P I am really for you, this might hurt but cheers.. :cheers: aleksii August 26th, 2007, 06:01 PM Orhid mall in Varna Type: Mix Development, Retail & Residential Location: Varna, Bulgaria:banana: http://www.m-y-s.com/Portfolio/Building-Types/Mix-Development/Mall-of-Varna http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/01_pictures/mall_of_varna_01.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_02.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_03.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_07.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_04.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_06.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_05.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/mix_development/mall_of_varna/mall_of_varna_08.jpg sun&sun August 26th, 2007, 06:26 PM cool, reminds me of this project: http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/zhjakob/Projects/b-3.jpg SinCity August 27th, 2007, 02:54 AM This is Zagreb's newest shopping centre opening end of this week (30/08). The 80,000 sqm "Avenue Mall" opens in New Zagreb (Novi Zagreb) district and is been built by Polish firm "GTC Group". GTC group are also preparing to build a second shopping centre in the city called "Centre Point". Zagreb currently is building a massive number of shopping centres. :) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7986/img1628cpe8.jpg Photo by Payo Punk http://www.avenuemall.com.hr/avenuemall/cr/ Делян August 27th, 2007, 02:35 PM Orhid mall in Varna Type: Mix Development, Retail & Residential Location: Varna, Bulgaria:banana: http://www.m-y-s.com/Portfolio/Building-Types/Mix-Development/Mall-of-Varna Very good, dude! This is how it is supposed to be done! Pictures, video and a nice link! HenkMan August 27th, 2007, 02:58 PM Beobuild had various info from various sources about these projects for a while, but now Delta's PRs started talking a lot about these projects in a general media, and they gave some concrete numbers: Delta's second big mall in Belgrade, Autokomanda, or Delta Planet (http://www.beobuild.net/news.php/87.html?go=projects), will have a 220.000sqm shopping mall and two 50.000sqm twin office owers. It will cost 300million euros The construction should start by the end of spring 2008. http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/office/autokomanda/mall_of_servia_02.jpg The other Delta's big project, tower complex in Blok 20 worth 150 million euros, with Intercontinental hotel, 192 meters HQ office tower and a shopping mall below it, should start in early 2008(before Autokomanda) ndQl9YGgwpM You can read all about it in Delta Holding's fancy corporate newsletter :D radi6404 August 29th, 2007, 03:34 PM Well, dunno about Bulgarian malls, the retail sector is booming. I know there are some malls already built in Sofia and Veliko Tarnovo and many more approved or U/C in Sofia and the country. These are the most well-known in Sofia: Mall of Sofia, about 70k sqm, it has a cinema multiplex as well as the Balkans' second IMAX 3D cinema (the first is in Athens). http://www.pik-bg.com/docs/issue_4/04-12-01.jpg City center Sofia, about 45k sqm. http://imagesfrombulgaria.com/d/29760-4/P1070552.JPG And Sky City, which is smaller, about 25k sqm http://www.technomarket.bg/SKY/STP_2.jpg ...till 2010, at least 5-6 more are going to be opened I don´t get that if something new comes to Bulgaria first fucking sofia benefits from it. Делян August 29th, 2007, 03:37 PM ^^ ^^ Well, Sofia is the biggest market...... radi6404 August 29th, 2007, 03:48 PM but it´s li8ke that with everythin man, everything new they make they make it for sofia and some years later it comes to other towns, new motorways just leading to Sofia, new roads just get build in sofia and towards sofia, when i came to Bulgaria i saw massive road construction arround Sofia, after we escaped sofia on the E79 after 25 km there was no roadconstruction at all, what the fucking shit is that? I´ts unfair towards the other towns and places in bulgaria!!! Делян August 29th, 2007, 04:02 PM One day you will be sick of all that construction and you'll be happy to see a dirt road.......... delfin_pl August 29th, 2007, 05:31 PM Krakow - Galeria Krakowska http://www.komunikacja.krakow.pl/fotogaleria/inwestycje/20060926/31.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Krak%C3%B3w_Galeria_Krakowska.jpg/800px-Krak%C3%B3w_Galeria_Krakowska.jpg http://bank.muratorplus.pl/images/Vol0002/26924_2.jpg http://www.wawel.net/images/17-02-2007/wspolczesna_architektura/4.JPG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/5/56/Galeria-krakowska.jpg/800px-Galeria-krakowska.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/d/d5/GaleriaKrakowska.JPG/800px-GaleriaKrakowska.JPG http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pl/thumb/6/60/Hala-europejska.jpg/800px-Hala-europejska.jpg http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/5852/p1040013ff2.jpg http://jakub.labenski.pl/pictures/misc/sc/nowe_miasto/060928_020.jpg http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/5152/p1040006dh9.jpg http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/5939/p1030898hn1.jpg radi6404 August 29th, 2007, 07:15 PM ^^ impressive! Cracovia August 29th, 2007, 07:37 PM I work there. My job is too look at CCTV and when something is going on to inform the security gaurds by radio..For the summer it is full time but after it will be part time because i have last year of School nebunul August 29th, 2007, 11:07 PM I work there. My job is too look at CCTV and when something is going on to inform the security gaurds by radio..For the summer it is full time but after it will be part time because i have last year of School ^^ Clearly you're not going to spot any thieves ... you're to busy with SSC :lol: BTW is this the new Galleria near the railway station? Czas na Żywiec August 29th, 2007, 11:29 PM ^^ Clearly you're not going to spot any thieves ... you're to busy with SSC :lol: BTW is this the new Galleria near the railway station? Yep, right next to it. Very convienent location plus it's within a few minutes walking distance from the Rynek. Cracovia August 30th, 2007, 01:43 AM My job is to spot troublemakers and potencial unwanted guests or if someone comes in with an animal. Normaly its the same drunks who try to come in, we sometimes have some assaults and disturbances but it gets so crowded you can not even see if people are stealing. I do not look in shops just in entrance and passage ways there is 4 of us.... I take my laptop with me coz we have Wifi. My father got me the Job as he did not want me asking him for money all summer and smoking weed in the basement with my mates all day long (he pretends it dosent happen hehe) nebunul August 30th, 2007, 01:54 AM Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeed will damage your brains; take it easy ... give up that shit :bash: :cheers: bgrs August 30th, 2007, 09:14 AM Yeah, that's why my brain is already heavily damaged :nuts: Sbz2ifc September 4th, 2007, 03:13 PM A future mall in Bucharest that hasn't been mentioned here: Galleria Bucharest (http://www.galleriabucharest.ro/) http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa250/Sbz2ifc/galleriabucharest.jpg snupix September 4th, 2007, 10:00 PM ^^ This is obviously from the same investor as the Avenue Mall in Zagreb. nebunul September 4th, 2007, 10:31 PM ^^ Kardan Group NV/Israel ... through www.gtc.com.pl http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2996/15734977ll4.gif (http://imageshack.us) ... and GTC Real Estate ^^ http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/3721/111tl7.gif (http://imageshack.us) VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 01:45 AM lol, I hate how these maps often cut off eastern Ukraine like it's some crap SouthernEuropean September 5th, 2007, 01:52 AM lol^^ i'ts huge and it doesn't fit maybe? VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 01:54 AM They probably just dont want to fit Turkey in and eastern Ukraine just happens to stick its ass so far into the east :D SouthernEuropean September 5th, 2007, 01:58 AM yeah,really possible..but in that way they cut importan cities such as Dniepropetrovsk....that sucks it;s like cutting off Thessaloniki(important Greek city) from the map.. VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 02:15 AM Some new malls from Ukraine Poltava http://www.utg.kiev.ua/img/konkord/news01.jpg http://www.utg.kiev.ua/img/konkord/news02.jpg Dnipro http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/-15.jpg http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/2-4.jpg Dnipro http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/europe.jpg Odesa http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/kostik3000/Odessa_2006/DSCF0057.jpg http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/kostik3000/Odessa_2006/DSCF0054.jpg Kyiv http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c101/kostik3000/Kiev_2006/DSCF0015.jpg?t=1176238631 Kyiv http://develop.com.ua/files/1/globus.jpg http://www.archunion.com.ua/img/proekt-02/p_126.jpg http://www.archunion.com.ua/img/proekt-02/p_121.jpg Kryvyj Rih - u/c or finished, but not completed pics http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/retail/krivay_rog/krivoy_rog_03.jpg http://www.m-y-s.com/user_files/projects/retail/krivay_rog/krivoy_rog_05.jpg u/c mall in Dnipro http://i15.tinypic.com/4lzd651.jpg http://i7.tinypic.com/4kci81u.jpg and another u/c in Dnipro http://i17.tinypic.com/6fq5j6r.jpg The largest mall is 120,000 m2 in Chernivtsi. Czas na Żywiec September 5th, 2007, 06:50 AM Some new malls from Ukraine and another u/c in Dnipro http://i17.tinypic.com/6fq5j6r.jpg The largest mall is 120,000 m2 in Chernivtsi. The first couple of ones were nice but this one is :ohno:. Nothing but a big box and a sea of parking. VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 06:51 AM That's what huge, far from centre malls look like everywhere in the world :) its not about design but size VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 07:07 AM Most Mall in Dnipropetrovsk, one of the largest and coolest in EE http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/m/mamenko/04/most_city.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/d/dunaevsky/08/mostcity.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/p/przhepyurko/05-2/glinkii04.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/a/andrey2/02/pryam_vnebo0407.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2006/t/trubachenko/03/fontan_cc.jpg http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/svints_most.jpg Another two of "Europe", also there http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/Europa_new.jpg http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2006/r/rudnev/12/europe.jpg Bosphor http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2004/a/kuzmuk/cd/bosfornight.jpg delfin_pl September 5th, 2007, 09:01 AM [QUOTE=Dr.Mesofius;15188501]Most Mall in Dnipropetrovsk, one of the largest and coolest in EE http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/m/mamenko/04/most_city.jpg no offence but its one the ugliest mall I've ever seen, those Ukrainians malls look like from early 90's :( rakim September 5th, 2007, 11:22 AM ^^ Yes, but mall "Europe" looks nice VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 05:21 PM Looks better than this :) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/Krak%C3%B3w_Galeria_Krakowska.jpg/800px-Krak%C3%B3w_Galeria_Krakowska.jpg Делян September 5th, 2007, 05:44 PM I don't see anything ugly in the Ukrainian mall! Adiks September 5th, 2007, 06:37 PM Looks better than this :) De gustibus non est disputandum, dud :) Anyway, for me, its not better, not even close. What cool is in that? That tower sux IMO, but less than the empty grey walls. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/madvad_dp/svints_most.jpg Europa mall, on the contrary looks great, at least at night ;) VelesHomais September 5th, 2007, 07:27 PM You have no sense of architecture then, or too strongly influenced by the strict western boundaries of style. :) Oekraїne September 6th, 2007, 01:24 AM ^^ Agree Czas na Żywiec September 6th, 2007, 06:59 AM That's what huge, far from centre malls look like everywhere in the world :) its not about design but size That's still no excuse, forfeiting design for size. I'm aware it's everywhere in the world, doesn't mean I have to like it. Czas na Żywiec September 6th, 2007, 07:01 AM [QUOTE=Dr.Mesofius;15188501]Most Mall in Dnipropetrovsk, one of the largest and coolest in EE http://gorod.dp.ua/photo/2007/m/mamenko/04/most_city.jpg no offence but its one the ugliest mall I've ever seen, those Ukrainians malls look like from early 90's :( At least it's something different and people put some thought into it, unlike the architect who used about two brain cells to create that wonderful "box" from my earlier post. VelesHomais September 6th, 2007, 08:11 AM That's still no excuse, forfeiting design for size. I'm aware it's everywhere in the world, doesn't mean I have to like it. You HAVE to like it! WC6EbWM6g9c :) MasonicStage™ September 6th, 2007, 02:07 PM wow...this Most mall looks awesome. ;) GOŚKA September 6th, 2007, 08:49 PM I think almost all ucrainian malls look beautiful, except the one in Chernivitsi. Maybe it is just a matter of visualization. Waiting for pics when it is finished. I like Europa and Most ... the most.:cheers: erci79 September 9th, 2007, 06:47 AM I'm sick of malls, I hate them! every ****ing morning it's the first words my wife opens her mouth "We have to go to the mall, we have to go to the mall! like we're gonna ****ing die if we don't some ****ing train is gonna hit us..She replaced good morning with we have to go the mall :puke: Malls Делян September 9th, 2007, 11:07 PM ^^ what do you like then? Verso October 4th, 2007, 07:07 PM Great "news" for all the Turkey-haters out there: the biggest shopping center in Europe isn't in Istanbul (you filthy liars :D), but the BTC City (http://www.btc.si/images/promocija/tm222.pdf) in Ljubljana. It's not as beautiful as the one in Istanbul, but the biggest, it is, with more than 400,000 sqm area, almost the size of The Vatican. :) 7t October 4th, 2007, 07:09 PM Is that where all Slovenia goes shopping? Verso October 4th, 2007, 07:17 PM Well, I was there today. :D Делян October 4th, 2007, 11:24 PM It can serve the whole Slovene population at once. :) Verso October 5th, 2007, 02:48 PM ^ 2,000,000 people into 400,000 sqm? Error. sun&sun October 5th, 2007, 03:19 PM Great "news" for all the Turkey-haters out there: the biggest shopping center in Europe isn't in Istanbul (you filthy liars :D), but the BTC City (http://www.btc.si/images/promocija/tm222.pdf) in Ljubljana. It's not as beautiful as the one in Istanbul, but the biggest, it is, with more than 400,000 sqm area, almost the size of The Vatican. :) Damn!!! But that's also good news :D It means that some investors will try to get the title back to Istanbul :nuts: sun&sun October 5th, 2007, 03:25 PM edit CrazySerb October 5th, 2007, 03:25 PM I would think Istambul's Grand Baazar is larger than BTC? sun&sun October 5th, 2007, 03:25 PM Hey you cheater! That's the size of the whole complex not of the mall :naughty: sun&sun October 5th, 2007, 03:27 PM I would think Istambul's Grand Baazar is larger than BTC? Istanbul's biggest isn't the grand bazaar, it's Cevahir. Grand bazaar is just the first mall of the world and with the highest numbers of shops. Shops are quite small there. Verso October 5th, 2007, 04:44 PM Hey you cheater! That's the size of the whole complex not of the mall :naughty:Let's get sth straight: is the mall in Istanbul housed in just 1 building or in more buildings? I mean, that would be a huge building, and as I've seen on those pix, it's composed of more buildings. Btw, the BTC City has more than 400,000 sqm of shopping area, the whole complex is more than 0.5 sqkm, I'm giving you a snap from Google Earth (you can almost see my housie :D): http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2899/btccityid9.png Here (http://www.btc.si/031_detail.php?id=140&tip=1) I took the area information (look at the table), the data are from 2004 (370,000 sqm), it's changed a lot since then. P.S.: SCS is Vienna's shopping center. Istanbullu October 5th, 2007, 07:06 PM ^^it's one huge building... the mall in Istanbul.. so yes, you cheated.. :D Verso October 5th, 2007, 07:44 PM ^ Wow, I knew it had many floors, but that it could cover such a huge area, that's just wow! And so fancy! :) Btw, what's the area of the building itself, not counting floors? Istanbullu October 6th, 2007, 01:46 PM ^^check this link.. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cevahir_Mall KHS October 6th, 2007, 02:30 PM New Mall Joker opened today in Split, Croatia... http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_026.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_030.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_025.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_024.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_023.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_022.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_020.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_018.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_017.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_016.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_015.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_013.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_08.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_05.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_03.jpg http://split.com.hr/galerija/albums/userpics/10623/20071005_joker_01.jpg SouthernEuropean October 6th, 2007, 07:41 PM i like it looks nice!..how about some exterior? KHS October 6th, 2007, 07:54 PM Exterior isn't spectacular! It is reconstruction of really old building. http://i12.tinypic.com/6cy0vtd.jpg http://i12.tinypic.com/4uub4lj.jpg http://i9.tinypic.com/4l6nx2f.jpg This is how this building looked just a year ago! http://i12.tinypic.com/4lzfuq8.jpg http://i3.tinypic.com/6finocn.jpg http://i8.tinypic.com/6243ei1.jpg http://i5.tinypic.com/639a7f9.jpg http://i12.tinypic.com/61xlena.jpg http://i17.tinypic.com/4qnyyp4.jpg :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: Nõgesh October 6th, 2007, 08:07 PM looks pretty good, but the interior is way too beige imo (walls, floors, ceilings...) SouthernEuropean October 6th, 2007, 08:30 PM hey exterior looks nice as well actually...and it's much better than the old one...simple and effective way of changing the face of that old building. KHS October 6th, 2007, 10:27 PM Don't know if you saw this one... http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9615/img1753copyoe7.jpg http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1388/img1692copylw2.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9405/img1691copydv5.jpg http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9158/img1709copynz0.jpg http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1693/img1721copyur0.jpg http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6046/img1726copycz2.jpg http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2191/img1722copylt5.jpg http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8805/img1728copyul2.jpg http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/6986/img1731copyjy1.jpg http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1930/img1744copywc5.jpg http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6435/img1738copyhl5.jpg http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3220/img1743copybh8.jpg golov October 6th, 2007, 10:56 PM The mall in Moscow's IBC will be at least 500 000 sqm http://rp.foto.radikal.ru/0709/7c/b373c8db51b8.jpg (c) Igor http://www.gorproject.ru/pic/products/gal/product77_5 http://www.citynext.ru/upload/images/6_7_8-3.jpg http://www.kp.ru/upimg/photo/69146.jpg?0.930786791580381 BiH-x October 6th, 2007, 11:02 PM I like the exterior on Avenue Mall in Zagreb. This mall is currently under construction in Sarajevo. Not as spectacular as many of those posted in the thread, but more than decent. I like it. http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/KDQYb51R4ll7Y1d.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/qanQ3GBE5ny3oIM.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/gwEMV7ORQdGWQKB.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/u6NXizOly6U9pXS.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/Vt3xWBs8VweGoML.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/Nixjh8vhpZKt88R.jpg VelesHomais October 6th, 2007, 11:10 PM I like all of these malls ;) Though I myself go to malls once in 2 years Blok October 6th, 2007, 11:27 PM This is how this building looked just a year ago! It looked better apart from terrible technical condition delfin_pl October 7th, 2007, 07:07 AM another mall was opened this week in Gdansk (TriCity) 200 stores including Saturn :) Galeria Baltycka http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/Gdansk/foto38003.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/Gdansk/foto38002.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x228/beczkarz1/IMG_6846.jpg @G0KU http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1385/dsc0110ic4.jpg http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2721/dsc0111us0.jpg http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8162/dsc0130qy0.jpg http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8945/dsc0118mk2.jpg http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5204/dsc0131tq2.jpg @DzikiRex http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/Gdansk/galeria_baltycka/foto041019.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/Gdansk/galeria_baltycka/foto041023.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e394/Dziki-REX/Gdansk/galeria_baltycka/foto041030.jpg logan1975 October 7th, 2007, 01:54 PM I'm really surprise about shopping malls in eastern europe! Much more beautiful and bigger than many malls in western europe!:nuts: hrvat October 7th, 2007, 04:50 PM http://www.x-build.net/4images/data/media/30/citycentar.jpg http://www.shopping-city-zagreb.com/res/gifs/startbild.jpg In 2007 construction preparations have commenced on the largest and most expensive retail-entertainment-commercial project in Croatia - Shopping City Zagreb. Over a built area of more than 1 million sqms will be a shopping centre, retail park and sporting-entertainment zone. The complex will sit beside the A2 motorway leading into Zagreb between Zaprešić and Bistra. The entire project is being built by Austrian firm, Redserve GmbH, Immobilienconsulting - Gesellschaft ATP Grupe and financed by an Austrian group of investors, Braunsberger Holding. The two level shopping complex will be in dimensions never seen before in Croatia. The vast shopping complex will be built in two stage with the first stage consisting of 50,000 sqms to be commence in 2007 with a planned completion of stage one in the spring of 2008. In the second stage, the centre will include entertainment facilites such as a large multiplex cinema, ice skating rink amongst many other features. The total built space of the shopping centre will be 120,000 sqms. The complex will have parking for approximately 6000 vehicles. Access will be directly via the adjacent motorway and also via local roads. The motorway will provide quick direct access from Zagreb and suburbs and also for visitors from other parts of Croatia and those outside of Croatia. Stage one will include 100 shop which will provide jobs for 1000 people. Many of the stores will be foreign and for most it will be their first in Croatia. The design of Shopping City Zagreb was by architects ATP Vienna and their sister firm ATP Zagreb. The design consists of three wings in a triangular formation covered with a central glass dome. From above the complex represents a tie (kravat) which is a historic Croatian design. Apart from the core retail aspect of Shopping City Zagreb, the centre will have commercial office space, entertainment, restaurants, cinemas, various sporting and other recreation activities, hotel accommodation and landscapes gardens and parklands. Once fully completed, it will have employed 6000 people. The vast 1 million sqm project will be built in stages over a 10 year period at a projected cost of over 1 billion euros. BanLuka October 7th, 2007, 09:09 PM Avenue Mall Zagreb looks great, exterior Verso October 7th, 2007, 11:06 PM Many nice pictures lately, and as I already started writing sth about the BTC City (we just call it BTC), here are some pix of it. After all, this thread would be insufficient without it, that is, if you consider Slovenia Eastern European. :D BTC City is the biggest shopping, business, sport-leisure and cultural center in Europe (more buildings), with area of more than 400,000 sqm and 7,500 free parking lots. Here are some links about it: in general - http://www.btc-city.com/ the company - http://www.btc.si/ brief in English - http://www.btc.si/images/promocija/tm222.pdf Citypark - http://www.citypark.si/ a few photos - http://www.btc.si/032.php http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/logo.jpg The main mall Citypark, with Interspar: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/13.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Interspar.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/1.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/2.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/3.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/4.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/5.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/6.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/7.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/8.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/9.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/10.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/11.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/12.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/14.jpg Office tower BTC City: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/stolpnica1.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/stolpnica2.jpg Millenium sports center: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Millenium.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Millenium2.jpg Emporium: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Emporium.jpg Multiplex cinema Kolosej (Colosseum), with 12 theaters and 3,312 seats: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Kolosej.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Kolosej3.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Kolosej2.jpg Indoor karting: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/karting.jpg Mercurius Congress hall: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Mercurius.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Mercurius2.jpg Beach volley and ice skating rink: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/beach_volley.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/ice_skating_rink.jpg :laugh: Arena Vodafone live! with Casino Rio gambling saloon, Gladiator bowling and billiards centers and XpanD digital 3D cinema: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/casino.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/bowling.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/XpanD.jpg Atlantis Water City: http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis7.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis6.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis5.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis4.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis3.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis2.jpg http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/Atlantis1.jpg Man, I'm exhausted. :D hercegovac_nin0 October 10th, 2007, 11:11 PM in Sarajevo they are building a lot of Malls! BBI Centar http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/kXEewyeNQxC7kwm.jpg http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc83/hariskec/sarajevo003.jpg Importane centar http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/Lse9tM4PSBWXXeM.jpg http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc83/hariskec/sarajevo137.jpg Centar Alta http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/GyQzPdGSc5kXirp.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/centar_alta_GAxSPdp.jpg BGRS these:cheers: in Sarajevo. hercegovac_nin0 October 30th, 2007, 09:43 PM Bosnia and Herzegovina, City Vitez http://www.fcbih.com/images/karta.jpg http://www.fcbih.com/images/zgrada2.jpg http://www.fcbih.com/images/13a.jpg bgrs October 30th, 2007, 10:04 PM What is the TBA of this mall? Any info on how much money will be invested there? And who is the investor of course :) Other mall projects going on in BiH ? hercegovac_nin0 October 30th, 2007, 10:15 PM What is the TBA of this mall? Any info on how much money will be invested there? And who is the investor of course :) Other mall projects going on in BiH ? Useful are in the building is 23.075 m2. investor is a Bosnian company: economic:http://www.economic-vitez.com/ more info on:http://www.fcbih.com/index_en.html[ hercegovac_nin0 October 30th, 2007, 10:22 PM Zenica Bosnia and Herzegovina city Zenica,open in December 2007, 69000 m2. Zenica Shoppingcenter+hotel+indoor arena(6000) http://dzananov.ba/album/shopingC.JPG http://dzananov.ba/album/Picture1234%20109.gif http://dzananov.ba/html/slike/IMG_2193.jpg http://dzananov.ba/html/slike/IMG_2197.jpg http://dzananov.ba/html/slike/IMG_2199.jpg http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/Zgembo_2006/ARENA.jpg http://www.zenicki.com/Gallery/albums/wpw-20070924/PIC_0002.JPG and the Arena:) investor:Bosnian company dzananov more info on:http://dzananov.ba/html/psc.php bgrs October 30th, 2007, 10:23 PM Thanks :) Are there any other projects in Sarajevo or Banja Luka? U/C, planned or already built? hercegovac_nin0 October 30th, 2007, 10:29 PM Sarajevo Bosnia and Herzegovina in Sarajevo they are building a lot of Malls! BBI Centar www.bbi-centar.ba http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/kXEewyeNQxC7kwm.jpg http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc83/hariskec/sarajevo003.jpg Importane centar 60000m2 investor:Bosnian company Teleoptic. 70milion euro http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/Lse9tM4PSBWXXeM.jpg http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc83/hariskec/sarajevo137.jpg Centar Alta20.000m2 usa invesment http://www.triland.net http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/GyQzPdGSc5kXirp.jpg http://www.sa-c.info/updateImg/centar_alta_7P8a8wH.jpg bgrs October 30th, 2007, 10:30 PM Thanks :) BiH-x October 30th, 2007, 11:51 PM Sarajevo Bosnia and Herzegovina in Sarajevo they are building a lot of Malls! BBI Centar www.bbi-centar.ba http://www.sa-c.info/projektImg/kXEewyeNQxC7kwm.jpg My personal favorite. Here's another pic of the contruction work on this (old picture): http://www.bbi-centar.ba/BBI/images/Izgradnja/33-big.jpg bgrs October 31st, 2007, 12:25 AM BTW this one in Zenica looks very much like a similar project in my hometown of Ruse. It has an indoor sports arena for 5000-7000 people (depends on the event) -25.000 sq.m TBA, a mall (65.000 sqm TBA) and a 9-storey business hotel (6000 sq.m TBA), underground multilevel parking for 750 cars. It's built by a consortium of local companies. Investments are only about 50 million euro, but that is due to the fact that the construction of the sports hall began 20 years ago and was stalled and due to the fact that the local municipality gave the land to the consortium in exchange of a share of the project. The construction works started recently. Here are 2 renders: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2118/1794671299_90642fc7b1.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/1794671293_10eb220ff8.jpg BiH-x October 31st, 2007, 12:54 AM ^^That looks nicer than the one in Zenica |