#ON HOLD: DUBAI PROMENADE

[Krazy]

Project: Dubai Promenade
Developer: Nakheel
Construction Start: 2007
Phase 1 completion: February 2008

Phase 1 consists of the removal of two existing breakwaters and construction of two new breakwaters, construction of an underwater reef and beach reclamation for the development of a new 7-star hotel. In total some 750,000 tons of rock will be placed and 650,000 m3 of sand will be reclaimed.


Project video promo:

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Area being worked on:

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Possible designs:


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Work on site:

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[jarmenkell]

Some more info about Dubai Promenade here...
http://www.vanoord.com/webfront/base.asp?pageid=398

http://www.jebelalisailingclub.com/MainComm%20Mins%2005-10-23_files/Letter%20from%20Nakheel%20-%20Sept%2006.pdf

http://www.jebelalisailingclub.com/main/N027-03-07-DP-JASC-L-008.pdf

[Stephan23]

Really awesome project :okay:

[True Blue]

We talk about the JBR wall but with the tallest block, the cluster between JBR and GH and now this project, things are just getting a bit silly at this end of the marina.

Talk about high density residences.:nuts:

[Dubai_Steve]

I think jbr is much more dense.

[dubaiflo]

I also think this is getting too much for the area..

I won't mind as long as i am not affected on my MS balcony :P

[Krazy]

Is anyone else starting to get worried about the 5 oclock traffic in this area when everything is finished?

Also, have a look at the second render - the arse end of the marina... new towers there too?

[True Blue]

Take a look at this picture, then paste in Infinity, Damac Heights, the rest of the tallest block, the cluster at GH-TGR and then Dubai promenade. The only space left will be the water channel between Infinity and GH.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1277/10939678591668e1ad97bxv0.jpg

Not much room for a sea view for apartments on SZR side plots, like MS and TP. Atleast JBR is orientated so that views are possible from Marina Promenade, Al Sahab etc.

[david]

are they going to build a wall of towers on the beach in front of the hotels and JBR as the pic ^^ suggests ? - that would be outrageous

[True Blue]

^^ Kinda looks like it.

I was angered by the announcement of Al Bateen Tower because it crossed the line as far as I was concerned (Being a 54 floor tower in the hotel zone).

This promenade project is even more outrageous. What next? Are we going to see Towers built out in the water infront of the beaches in the same style as Burj Al Arab?

[par4]

They surely cant build on the beach in front of the hotels,that would be criminal,if the beach disappears then so do the holidaymakers.

[Dubai_Steve]

are they going to build a wall of towers on the beach in front of the hotels and JBR as the pic ^^ suggests ? - that would be outrageous

Looks like that might block quite a lot of palm views from JBR.

[thedubailife]

Steve you got that the wrong way round this project is being put here so that it blocks the View of JBR from the Palm.

Last thing you wan to be doing is relaxing on palm looking at a commie block :LOL:

[AltinD]

^^ LOL sooooo true :D

[Mithat]

I love this project!!

This will add so much life to the marina. Having a beach strip and a wall of ugly jbr behind of it without any relationship was so boring and looked like those poor beach resorts were stuck between them. IMO in these renders the marina looks like a cool holiday resort with a vibrant city life..

I don't agree they will block the view that much. Those who have concerns should look at the JBR first. These are more respectful to the surroundings.

and im sure the beach front apartments will have much better views as they will have both full ocean and nice bright skyline view together. Especially at night, considering now they can see only darkness except some palm views.

[david]

I hate this project.

The beach will need to be removed in order to build the towers with accessroad,I understand building on the "trunk" but whats that ugly peice of art at the head all about::bash:

[dubaiflyer]

:ohno: :bash: I am truly amazed at the negative comments about this project, which will be the setting for the Landmark, Iconic structure that will define the image of Dubai Marina.

Despite all the amazing buildings that have been constructed in Dubai, the worldwide PR symbol of the country remains the Burj al Arab. Now there will be another unique design for the the world's second '7 star' hotel, at the main entrance into Dubai Marina. This appears to be an icon that - in addition to the Burj Dubai - will be a third such symbol, and could well be the exclusive PR 'cherry on the cake' for Dubai Marina that would be of benefit to all DM investors.

The project is at 90 degrees to the mainland, and will not block any current views. Also, it seems to me that the indistinct 'towers' along the beach are simply intended to represent JBR - the two renders are only meant to promote the new towers on the promontory leading to, and including, the new '7 star' hotel.

And, True Blue, what if there were to be plans for new Burj al Arab type buildings on reclaimed offshore islands in the future? Unless I am mistaken, isn't it that type of visionary project (Burj, Palms, World, Waterfront) that Dubai is all about? :yes:

[True Blue]

............
And, True Blue, what if there were to be plans for new Burj al Arab type buildings on reclaimed offshore islands in the future? Unless I am mistaken, isn't it that type of visionary project (Burj, Palms, World, Waterfront) that Dubai is all about? :yes:

Repetition of icons removes their individuality and diminishes their status. The entrance to the marina is going to have Infinity tower, thats enough for me.

IMO it is possible to go too far and we are approaching that point rapidly.

[Insane alex]

WoW! Nice project!

[Sander-]

This project is awesome. As another poster mentioned it breaks the repetetive and somewhat boring feel of JBR with the beach in front. This project really makes the coast more alive and is a beutiful view in itself. Marina residents should be pleased :)

[mackie1964]

The Hole Truth is this powerful Iconic building will be Nestle..d between some other ugly ones, is in its own a breath of fresh air :lol:

[Dubai_Steve]

I like the project too, a 7 star hotel is great for the marina. Will be interesting to view the palm through the polo :D

[Tate]

Repetition of icons removes their individuality and diminishes their status. The entrance to the marina is going to have Infinity tower, thats enough for me.

IMO it is possible to go too far and we are approaching that point rapidly.

Yes, I have to agree with you here 100%, there is nothing worse than repetition, especially for old architectural connoisseurs like myself.:bash: It does somehow make true world icons such as Burj Al Arab smaller....weaker if you will in the eyes of the world. And as BAA is the PR promotional tool for Dubai throughout the world this will not be good! Then you have the knock-on effect and suddenly everything becomes quite boring....and bland. As a real fan of BAA I'd really hate to see any kind of noticeable effect on it's standing in the Dubai/world because that would be a real tragedy.:bash:

But I think in the end people here should ask the people who do actually live in JBR or in that general area what they think about this development... Why? Because they are the ones who will have to live with this! What's the point of someone moaning about Dubai Promenade when they don't even live there?:nuts: If those people who have made JBR their home and they happen to like/love this project then that's all that matters I suppose.

I'm looking for more original and exciting designs, if they are on the water especially....rather than going back to BAA and just rehashing what's already been done! But a 7 star hotel for the Marina would be great though!

[david]

Dubaiflyer, Hope you are correct that the indistinct towers will not exist, in my view that would be a silly project too far, although JBR is not in front of the wonderful Le royal meridian hotel beach front.^^

[Stone803]

Please Dubai don't over do it!!!! I love the large buildings going up but this marina is in danger of becoming even more over crowded...roads wont cope, beack will be packed, public transport is non existant.... Dubai slow down!!!!

[gaze]

where is the Al Bateen Tower ?
I think the indistinct towers is a bad rendition of JBR !
I was speaking to someone and it seems that there is going to be a seven star hotel and some shore line apts ... no extra tall towers !


^^ Kinda looks like it.

I was angered by the announcement of Al Bateen Tower because it crossed the line as far as I was concerned (Being a 54 floor tower in the hotel zone).

This promenade project is even more outrageous. What next? Are we going to see Towers built out in the water infront of the beaches in the same style as Burj Al Arab?

[dubaiflyer]

True Blue, in any other location in the world any one of the best Marina towers standing alone would be regarded as Iconic. I would agree with the widely held sentiment that would have preferred the tallest block more spaced apart, since it is the grouping of them so close together that undoubtedly reduces their individual impact.

But it is for that reason that the rare potential of seeing another Burj al Arab type icon standing in splendid isolation at the mouth of the Marina is truly exciting. Let's hope that the punctured disc type of concept - pure in its simplicity, but (as you would know) incredibly complex to turn into reality, will be as mouthwateringly stunning as it looks on my desktop!

[malec]

I actually think the tallest block as a whole will be a massive landmark for the marina and dubai. It goes against the usual image people have of a landmark since it's so disorganised with massive towers of all different styles crammed together, also there's nothing like it anywhere in the world.
I like this project and it'll be a good contrast to the tallest block but I do fear for the traffic and overcrowding. At least it'll block out JBR from the palm.

[Tate]

I actually think the tallest block as a whole will be a massive landmark for the marina and dubai. It goes against the usual image people have of a landmark since it's so disorganised with massive towers of all different styles crammed together, also there's nothing like it anywhere in the world.

Agreed! Once the tallest block is completed there will be nothing in the world than even comes close! And it's true, it would have been so nice to see more space between the towers....but visually when this block is finally done it will be just mind-blowing!:omg: :omg: :omg: :cheers:

[Dubai_Steve]

If the buildings close to the 7 start hotel are just low rise shoreline style apartments then I think this is fine and will not impact the traffic too much. Probably they will be very expensive units because of the location.

I would like to see some newer renders and proposals. I am not sure that the ones shown so far are the best that can be done for a 7 star hotel.

[dubaiflyer]

I agree - the apartments alongside the 7 star hotel will be expensive at launch and even more so when complete. The renders we have seen so far are early concepts - we can all look forward to more meaningful images when Nakheel and Sheikh Mohammed decide which design to run with.

I totally agree - the tallest block when complete will be unbelievable - particularly at night with the lights on - roll on 2011! :banana:

Traffic will always be an issue in any major city, but at least the Ruler of Dubai, in creating his city, is actively trying to deal with the situation eg 7 lane highways, two-tier roads, tram networks and the monorail. I am confident that high speed hydrofoils and water taxis will be zipping about everywhere too. Where else in the world is there such a concentration of infrastructure work going on at the same time?

And with so many outstanding facilities being created in such close proximity, there may be quite a lot of pedestrian traffic as well! :yes:

[Tate]

I totally agree - the tallest block when complete will be unbelievable - particularly at night with the lights on - roll on 2011! :banana:

Yes, can you imagine this block at night!?:omg: :omg: :omg: It will look spectacular!:yes: Anyone with an address on this block will be very privileged indeed....probably the best address in the world by a mile! And what a view out over the water towards Palm Jumeirah....and vice versa.:)

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[High Times]

Does anyone know what is confirmed for the Prominade yet or is it all speculation ?

[DUBAI]

I discovered this months ago!

its somewhere in that mina seyahi thread

:D :D :D :D :D

[Krazy]

^^ http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=197677

[CrazyDave]

If they build that giant doughnut, that will certainly be a challege for the contractors. But in Dubai it seems they have the resourses to do it.

[carpetking]

I like the think,that Dubai will have a second 7++++++ Hotel :cheers:

[Tate]

^^ Yes, that would be so cool!:) And if it was anything like BAA (not in design though) then it would be a sure winner!!!:cheers:

[Tate]

If they build that giant doughnut, that will certainly be a challege for the contractors. But in Dubai it seems they have the resourses to do it.

What exactly is that "giant doughnut" anyway?

[malec]

the hotel

[Tate]

^^ Thanks malec!:) That's the most bizarre looking hotel I think I've ever seen!?:nuts: No doubt this is going to give the contractors some sleepless nights.

[Cranesetc]

A couple of pics to show how things have changed so far.

August 2006:

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/dubaipromenade2006.jpg

August 2007: Barge mounted excavator tidying the sea bed. Rock from stockpiles is loaded into dump trucks (ADTs for plant fans) and end tipped to form the advancing breakwaters.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/dubaipromenade.jpg

The barge mounted excavator up close.

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/cranesetcphotos/dubaipromenade1.jpg

[rexdmx]

^^ nice pics there. reclamation at the left side is improving!

[Imre]

07/Sept/2007

Dubai Promenade

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[rexdmx]

^^ good pictures... gives us a close up of the trucks working...:)
look at the dredging ships in the second picture, when do u reckon it will be done ??

[True Blue]

Bit early to speculate on completion.

Check out Dorrabay rising in the distance behind Sheraton Hotel. One of the few marina projects with a good sea view.

[Naz UK]

Would the sea be visible from your windows though? What with all the smoke from next door? Sitting on the balcony during the cooler months, with a perfect sea view, with your oxygen tank and mask, would be a delight I imagine.

[Dubai_Steve]

Yes the 7 star hotel will also have a lovely view of the smoke :nuts:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5522/p2xw7.jpg

At least beach sunbathers are saved from the view by the protecting arms.

[True Blue]

Would the sea be visible from your windows though? What with all the smoke from next door? Sitting on the balcony during the cooler months, with a perfect sea view, with your oxygen tank and mask, would be a delight I imagine.

^^ :ohno: ^^

It looks like investors in general don't share your sentiments. Premiums in Dorrabay are over 50% already with a year to go to handover. Perhaps the view of Dubai promenade and the Palms are more distracting than an industial zone. Anyway I prefer that neighbour to SZR which we all know is very quiet and does not produce any polution whatsoever.

Just back from watching Scotland beat France AGAIN!! :banana: Top of the Group.:cheers: :booze: :nuts:

[NEWUSER]

That is one cool alien-like structure... Aliens might think it's a parking lott for their saucers... It looks like it's gona roll off in the water... very cool..

Any website for this awesome hotel? Developers? Architects?

[Joy Machine]

I'm all for experimental arch, but a donut or a disk...I just don't see it looking anything like the renderings :? Also, wouldn't anything above the upper half will be baking in the sun from rise till set, turning into a 7* glass oven???

[Blizzy]

Premiums in Dorrabay are over 50% already with a year to go to handover.

I have to ask this question somewhere, so here goes. What is a "premium" in all this investor talk?

[rexdmx]

I have to ask this question somewhere, so here goes. What is a "premium" in all this investor talk?


premium is the profit rate above the original price
for example if you bought a flat for $10 and you sold it for $15, the premium is 50%

selling price-cost price= profit/premium

premium %= profit/premium (amount) divided by the cost price multiplied by 100

[GoDubai!]

Why are premiums so prominantly listed in seller sites? To see so boldly how much a property is being priced above its original rate is, I would think, a turn off for potential buyers. Admittedly, the buyer may need to know this, especially if getting finance, but this is just the sort of thing a seller should want to hide in the small print. It is almost like the ads are boasting about the high premiums. Wierd.

[Dubai_Steve]

Yes certainly not good business methods. I am sure this is slowing the secondary market as people like to feel they are getting the lowest price and and will rather pay the same amount for an off-plan which has no premium and a long delay instead! :nuts:

[Blizzy]

premium is the profit rate above the original price
for example if you bought a flat for $10 and you sold it for $15, the premium is 50%

selling price-cost price= profit/premium

premium %= profit/premium (amount) divided by the cost price multiplied by 100

Thanks.

[whonose]

Where on the Marina plot-map can we find the Promenade?

[thedubailife]

^^ You can't it's not part of Emaar's Dubai Marina project. But it is the section of land towards the sea on the Grovsenor House Side.

[NEWUSER]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/NEWUSER_01_2007/promenade-dubai-03.jpg

Architect firm Robbie/Young + Wright Architects Inc. "Formerly Young + Wright Architects Inc. "

[thedubailife]

^^ Is there a link or more bigger pics of the plans etc.

[Dubai_Steve]

http://www.ankeshkothari.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/simpsons_donuts-01.jpg

[NEWUSER]

^^ Is there a link or more bigger pics of the plans etc.

unfortunately no - the architect website also got no info on the project - if i get any insider info from RYWA, will post it

[Tag_one]

It seems that holes are hot at the moment :lol: :cheers:

[Spectrum]

I think YW doing a master plan for only the 6 towers behind the big donate:lol:and the design is for tender where other architects will offer a another design too.

what I know is the rest of the project including the hotel, front wings ,podium & 3 buildings in the back are given to a famous MD company in dubai based on UK , they did the master plan +concept design for that part. they may do the rest of the project too:cheers:

[rexdmx]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/NEWUSER_01_2007/promenade-dubai-03.jpg

Architect firm Robbie/Young + Wright Architects Inc. "Formerly Young + Wright Architects Inc. "



they wrote that they would be a forest!!!

a forumer..(is it dubai steve or someone else?) posted a render of the marina with a lot of trees
could it be the rainforest bio facility?...we all commented about it. is it the same one as i cant recall exactly

[AltinD]

^^ No, that's the forest where Imre's bears hang out.

[Krazy]

why are there so many SWFC replicas??

[TowerPower]

"Holy" sh*t

[GoDubai!]

SWFC??

[AltinD]

^^ Shanghai World Financial Centre

[Spectrum]

New render for the donut :cheers:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9012/02kb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[AltinD]

Finally something futuristic for the Marina area. It was becoming kind of boring with all that yellow/sand concrete.

[thedubailife]

Are they all just like proposals or has somthing been approved. If i see some of that out of my Infinity window i'd be happy.

[gaze]

any idea how many stories the buildings behind the hotel is ?

[Dubai_Steve]

The reflective silver glass looks awesome. Hope such a design is approved.

[DUBAI]

i wonder if the lift is on a circular track like a ferris wheel?

The glass wall by the sand looks awsome too though.

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Easier to have 2 lifts, 1 either side of the hole.

[Spectrum]

Are they all just like proposals or has somthing been approved. If i see some of that out of my Infinity window i'd be happy.

this part of project beyond proposal. the Client approved it as a concept , still other approval from hotel operator & jafza in progress.

I don't think in the end there will be a big change in the project at least geometric wise.

[FWIW]

^^ Easier to have 2 lifts, 1 either side of the hole.

Looks like one of the lift shafts goes through the donought hole!!!!
That view will be incredible!
:banana:

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Well spotted, don't know why I did not see that. :hammer:

[AltinD]

^^ Because of the black (goth) eye-linner. :runaway:

[Goss]

Gotta say this is a terrible idea.Are there not enough high rises in the Marina without building them out at sea?.This stretch of beach is far to clustered already with the JBR and hotels.The Promenade in my opinion is one project to many.My opinion is based on just having returned from a weeks stay at the Royal Meridian.Have to say the buildings look great but enough is enough-build them somewhere else!

[thedubailife]

I say knock down JBR and build this if thats the case

[True Blue]

New render for the donut :cheers:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9012/02kb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Who are you calling a donut? :bash: Poo rem up :nuts:

That render is all wrong, the scaling on the buildings and yachts is out of sync. Not sure I like chrome sand either :lol:

[AltinD]

^^ It's a promenade not a sandy beach. ;)

[Dubai_Steve]

Gotta say this is a terrible idea.Are there not enough high rises in the Marina without building them out at sea?.

There is always room for 1 more donut. :lol:

[True Blue]

^^ It's a promenade not a sandy beach. ;)

Silly me :hammer: OK cancel the chrome sand, still not that keen on stainless steel promenade. Can you imagine the glare from the sun?? :nuts:

[Dubai_Steve]

well, I like it. We need something futuristic looking for a change.

[dubaiflyer]

I love this design. :banana: It is still conceptual, but we can see why it has the potential to become an iconic rival for the Burj al Arab. A fabulous, super prestigious development to have at the entrance to our Marina.

BTW - the lift core isn't going 'through' the 'donut hole' - look closely - it is on the far side of the building. Am sure there would be another one 'hidden' on this side too.

[Goss]

well, I like it. We need something futuristic looking for a change.
I like the design too.

[rexdmx]

it is not bad..would have loved to see a different kind of finishing but this one is alright

[Goss]

There is always room for 1 more donut. :lol:

??

[AltinD]

^^ Big belly.

[Doctor_UK]

this is a very nice edition to marina. although its going to make things more crowded but just imagine this one being a part of your apartment's view.

overall, the value of the area is going to go upwards, strategically, financially and touristicalllly !!



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[rexdmx]

this is a very nice edition to marina. although its going to make things more crowded but just imagine this one being a part of your apartment's view.

overall, the value of the area is going to go upwards, strategically, financially and touristicalllly !!



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now that is what i call an explosion of grammatical expressions

[Dubai_Star]

I love this design.It is still conceptual, but we can see why it has the potential to become an iconic rival for the Burj al Arab. A fabulous, super prestigious development to have at the entrance to our Marina.
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I didn’t want to be the one to say this But.. i think its a case of '..THE KING HAS NO CLOTHS!" :weird: The Design has no imagination or class, it’s a ridiculous looking building and no way could i image trying to convince my Friends to go and stay a night at the 'Donut-shaped building! :ohno:
Those trying to compare it to the iconic Burj al Arab are just plane Nuts!!:nuts: If this goes through then i really will believe that Dubai is a land where anything that is possible is probable! :lol: (Wait&See)
Theres nothing futuristic about a Donut shape:lol: !!

[dubaiflyer]

Bubai Star, you are entitled to your view. But i reckon that in about three years time, when Dubai Promenade is finished, you will be eating neither 'Nuts' nor 'Doughnuts' but quite simply your OWN WORDS! We shall see!

[rexdmx]

actually what i like are the buildings close to the doughnut shaped hotel
the tall skinny buildings..that is simple and tasteful

[Sander-]

Come on all you sceptics. This design is -awesome!-

And besides, the JBR residents can both look at the new magnificent structure - and - look through it so it doesnt remove the view :D

[Pronaos]

There is always room for 1 more donut. :lol:

Speaking of donuts...

[NEWUSER]

The new render looks even better! Were did you get it from? Still no info online about this project....

[High Times]

Is anything actualy confirmed for this area yet or is it just an architectural free for all ?

[AltinD]

^^ Haven't you read the thread?

[High Times]

Yes AltinD, i have read the thread.

I ask because there is no actual confirmation of what will be built here yet.

It's seems to me that they are still in the design stage and therefore lots of speculation regarding dognuts and polo's.

I just wanted to ask if anyone knew what was factual and what was speculation, who the developers were, etc.

[AltinD]

^^ Come on, everything you're asking for is on this thread. This area belongs to NAKHEEL and they are the developer.

[Naz UK]

I doubt this project will go ahead. It's another example of "Nakheel stumbling out of a Bur Dubai brothel at 6am, puking up last night's drink and then designing and launching a new project all in the same morning" syndrome.

[FWIW]

I doubt this project will go ahead. It's another example of "Nakheel stumbling out of a Bur Dubai brothel at 6am, puking up last night's drink and then designing and launching a new project all in the same morning" syndrome.

Naz - I find your lack of faith disturbing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgGc9kruiLQ

:)

[High Times]

^^ Come on, everything you're asking for is on this thread. This area belongs to NAKHEEL and they are the developer.

So sorry Altin,

I must have fallen asleep whilst trying to ascertain what was for real and what was bullshit.

I promise to be more alert in the future.

I very much doubt if any of the renders that have apeared on this thread will be built.

Go on Nakheel prove me wrong......

[AltinD]

Ok, appology accepted.

[Naz UK]

Go on Nakheel prove me wrong......

Sorry Nakheel don't have internet access at the moment, their 56K modem is in for repair. We may get an update on this at Cityscape '08.

[Julito-dubai]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dahabra/1851739029/in/photostream/

new pictures...

[bizzybonita]

any info about launch day ???

[ardi]

Sorry i cant check the thread from start, anybody could tell me who is the architect? any land there for sale for private developers?

[rexdmx]

Sorry i cant check the thread from start, anybody could tell me who is the architect? any land there for sale for private developers?

it's only 6 pages!!

[AltinD]

Ok, ok ... I will sumorise all for Ardi: The architects are some Egyptians/Syrian guys from Sharjah and all the plots dedicated to third parties were snapped by Al Attar Properties.

Hope these answered your questions, so i can go back having fun under the sun in Cancun. :cheers:

[ardi]

great info :banana: you guys can get a job in a comedy club but if you have finished your school yet.

[AltinD]

^^ Yes, I have completed my Engineering studies actually ... back in 1995.


Can I still get that comedy club job (hope Naz doesn't mind). :D

[ardi]

^^ Yes, I have completed my Engineering studies actually ... back in 1995.


Can I still get that comedy club job (hope Naz doesn't mind). :D

Its fine buddy you can start as third act, that the best you can get now.

[NEWUSER]

Sorry i cant check the thread from start, anybody could tell me who is the architect? any land there for sale for private developers?

see post 59

[Imre]

28/November/2007

Dubai Promenade

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/90/imresolt032uo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[rexdmx]

^^ nice scenery for the beach goers ;)

[NEWUSER]

updates?

[Julito-dubai]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywMGIS0zvQ

a video of the development with the donut hotel. Look at the woman when they take the elevator. Bad animation!

[Dubai_Steve]

Interesting video, so The Dubai Promenade will have:

A 7 star icon hotel (donut hotel)
2 Beach Towers
Beach Plaza
3 Channel Towers
Office Tower
Boutique Hotel
3 Marina Towers
Urban Plaza
Promenade Retail Link

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9483/capturemb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[yecabel]

^^
steve,
any idea if the 2 beach towers will comprise residential units, and are they on the market yet?
much appreciated.

[Dubai_Steve]

Beach towers have a fantastic location. I imagine they will have residential units and would be great to own. Have not seen anything for sale yet. Hopefully Imre can keep a look out for us.

[rexdmx]

^^ u can be sure that the prices would be up to our eyeballs

[Blizzy]

The office tower in that video seems to stand in the middle of the channel. Unless of course, it is completely out of scale, there seems to be little place for some sort of a transportation corridor and two rows of highrises...

[High Times]

Does anyone have any idea of the expected hights of these towers in thgis area ? ?

[Imre]

from the masterplan I counted apr. 40 floors ,apr. 150-170m but nothing has approved

[AltinD]

Basically the Palm views of JBR towers are screwed and so are the sea views from the upper floors of the towers between JBR and Grosvenour House.

Sea views from the Marina facing apartments of the tallest block towers are effected (if not blocked - no. of floor dependant) as well.

[High Times]

^^
Thanks guys,

I hope Imre is right so at least floors 50+ from tallest block get some kind of horizon views

[dubaiflyer]

The effect on views is being exagerrated, especially from JBR and the tallest block, neither of which will suffer any loss of sea or Palm views but which will actually gain from the view of the new 7 star hotel. Views from the Marina towers between Grosvenor House and JBR may have some loss of sea view, but most of those were launched after the Nakheel development was known about.

[malec]

That donut hotel looks like something that'll be cool for 2 seconds, then not really impressive anymore. They should build the wave tower in that spot.

[Dubai_Steve]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/2149753732_bd5eae3e26_o.jpg

[Dubai_Steve]

Nakheel announces new waterfront development - Dubai Promenade

Nakheel, one of the world's largest privately-held property developers, has announced its latest development - Dubai Promenade, a sophisticated waterfront community which will create a virtual peninsula along the Dubai shoreline anchored by a spectacular five-star wheel-shaped hotel.

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/50834-nakheel.jpg

Surrounded by the sea, a marina and a natural beach, Dubai Promenade will offer panoramic views, idyllic walkways, and carefully considered architecture to create a distinctly different residential and commercial environment.

Dubai Promenade is located between Dubai Marina and the seafront and is adjacent to Dubai International Marine Club (DIMC). The development offers breathtaking views of the Arabian Gulf, The Palm Jumeirah and the coast towards Jebel Ali Port. The development places an emphasis on open space and waterfront lifestyle with an expansive promenade opening up the seafront to residents and visitors.

In addition to a selection of commercial and residential towers, cafés, restaurants and retail offerings will span the length of the entire waterfront. Dubai Promenade will have its own marina with more than 60 berths.

Ali Bin Damithan, Senior General Manager - Dubai Promenade, said:

'When masterplanning Dubai Promenade, we were keen to create a feeling of open space, capitalizing on the waterfront views. As well as being a premium location for offices and retail, public access to the promenade will provide a unique location for families to stroll and enjoy seafront views.'

'Dubai Promenade will also further enhance the emirate's international profile through its centrepiece wheel-shaped hotel. The hotel's unprecedented shape and structure will be spectacular and no other skyline in the world offers anything like it.'

Reclamation at Dubai Promenade is being undertaken by Van Oord. It is due to be completed in the first quarter of 2008 with a total of some 750,000 tons of rock being placed and 650,000 m3 of sand reclaimed. Construction will begin in mid-2008 and on completion the development will accommodate approximately 10,000 residents in more than 2,000 residential units, will offer over 25,000 m2 of retail space and over 17,000 m2 of office space.

Further details of the project will be available at the Tourism Development Projects & Investment Market exhibition 20-22 January 2008 at the Dubai International Convention & Exhibition Centre.

[mackie1964]

I want some of this, I hope it is not too expensive like AED3000/sqft or something :banana:

[Imre]

from the Nakheel:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5898/dpviewa1221croppedhc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[AltinD]

The residential (blue) towers are nice, the comercial ones not so ... and what's with Trump Hotel?

[mackie1964]

You are right Altin. With all of this inspiration around (water, sand, waves, green…etc) I would have expected more curvy, natural looking buildings if you know what I mean. Why the sharp ugly buildings. I love the Hotel.

[FWIW]

I really hope I get to see this from my bedroom window!

[Dubai_Steve]

I want some of this, I hope it is not too expensive like AED3000/sqft or something :banana:

I expect the beach tower units will be around that price.

Maybe you should have stuck with Botanica after all which is almost next door at AED 1500 sq/ft :D

[mackie1964]

I would not give them any more money, even if it was AED750/sqft. Its about trust now :ohno:

[Imre]

those 3 towers with white roof ,look like a plot U (Al Seef 2,3 Tamweel Towers) at the JLT site

[Omaro]

Is this project and the Palm Jumeirah in general REALLY going to be THAT green? (Landscaping-wise)

[Dubai_Steve]

Has anyone noticed that the hotel has been reduced from 7 star to 5 star ! :bash:

"anchored by a spectacular five-star wheel-shaped hotel."

[Omaro]

Oh well... Before we know it the "spectacular five-star wheel-shaped hotel" will suddenly become a 34 floor boring looking hotel :D (Remember the old renders of the Trump hotel when it looked like an egg?)

[Imre]

The Channel Towers on sale from 24/January/2008

[Dubai_Steve]

Dubai to get new promenade by 2011

DUBAI — Nakheel announced its latest project involving a waterfront community along the Dubai shoreline anchored by a five-star wheel-shaped hotel.

Called Dubai Promenade, the project is set for completion by 2011 and will be surrounded by the sea, a harbour and a beach. It will have panoramic views and idyllic walkways to create a unique residential and commercial community.

In a statement, Nakheel yesterday said that the project emphasises open space and waterfront lifestyle with an expansive promenade opening up the seafront to residents and visitors.

"When master-planning Dubai Promenade, we were keen to create a feeling of open space, capitalising on the waterfront views," said Ali bin Damithan, senior general manager of the project.

The statement said that Van Oord, a global dredging and marine contracting company, is doing the project's reclamation work, which will be finished by March and involves 750,000 tonnes of rocks and 650,000 cubic metres of sand.

It added that construction would begin in June and, upon completion, the project will be able to accommodate 10,000 residents in over 2,000 units and offer 25,000 square metres of retail space and over 17,000 sq m of office space.

[High Times]

I think this is going to be amazing.

This is going to be my next investment in Dubai.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7414/30873710qt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Naz UK]

Any project that can block 90% of Palm Jumeirah views for JBR owners is a good thing. And that's Nakheel saying this, not me. :D

[Tractor]

Are you sure they're not deliberately blocking views of JBR from the palm?! ;)

[CIPUS]

nice question

[jeetha]

Or maybe…. they are taking JBR to the palm and beyond.

[PAULDELVES]

I think this is going to be amazing.

This is going to be my next investment in Dubai.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7414/30873710qt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
HT - although there is some negativity
about DS and Botanica (for some good resons in some instances I guess)
I,m so glad I invested in Botanica this new Development will help up prices in Botanica tremenedously now - I have spent out now and won't be investing in
the Promenade but does anyone have details of prices/availability etc just to be nosey

[biyadoo]

Personally I'm not really happy that my apartment will be overlooking towards this area (from OH). I would rather have an unblocked sea view, and enjoy the sunset on the horizon. :)
This is why I have bought a sea facing apartment. :ohno:
I wonder what other people in my situation think...

[Imre]

website is ready

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/

just .ae because the .com somebody taken:)



from the website:

Masterplan:

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/en/masterplan/an-inspired-masterplan.html

Dubai Promenade offers a harmonious union of
residential, office, hospitality, retail and commercial
space, along with many other points of interest.

Residences:
The Channel Towers - Al Shimal, Suheili and Al Gharbi
The Marina Towers - Safeena, Fulq and Sarieh
The Beach Towers - Douj and Heirrat

Business Sector:
The Office Tower

Retail & Amenities:
The Promenade Retail Link
The Pier
The Waterfront
The Beach Plaza
The Marina

Hospitality:
The Icon Hotel
The Boutique Hotel


so the first launch The Channel Towers - Al Shimal, Suheili and Al Gharbi

On Saturday I am going to the sales center to find out some prices:)

[AltinD]

Personally I'm not really happy that my apartment will be overlooking towards this area (from OH). I would rather have an unblocked sea view, and enjoy the sunset on the horizon. :)
This is why I have bought a sea facing apartment. :ohno:
I wonder what other people in my situation think...

How does this block your sea view if you have a sea facing apartment? Even the sunset will not be blocked and you can enjoy it from your balcony.

[biyadoo]

How does this block your sea view if you have a sea facing apartment? Even the sunset will not be blocked and you can enjoy it from your balcony.

I hope so :)
But remember OH is twisting counter clockwise and sea-facing upper floors will be "aligned" towards this area (if I am interpreting the Dubai Promenade pictures correctly). Of course it will not be blocked completely but (depending on the size of towers) it may be affected. But maybe my concerns are unfounded - time will tell. :dunno:

Is anyone working on an updated plan of Marina including this development?

[Dubai_Steve]

The Channel Towers on sale from 24/January/2008

1 bedroom Type A has a nice layout

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/images/472~405~2~ffffff~82~0~nak047-v1-en~0/20080110_1-bedroom-type-A-1.jpg

but the tower is quite ugly.

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/images/217~251~2~ffffff~82~0~nak047-v1-en~0/20080110_exterior-channel-tower.jpg

Community and Architectural Features

Complete health club
Lap pool
Children’s pool and play area
Sky Garden
Communal prayer rooms
Retail mall with many food and beverage outlets
Supermarket
Close to Promenade Retail and the Marina
Shaded balconies or terraces for all apartments
Shading louvers on all east and west facing balconies
Shared storage rooms
Garbage collection system utilizing central garbage chutes

Security System

Access to control system at main entrance at each tower and to basement car parking areas
Intrusion detection and alarm systems
Lift access control system
Closed circuit television and digital video recording system in strategic locations
Intercom and access control system between main entrance and each apartment

Life Safety Systems

Fire detection and alarm systems

Mechanical Systems

Central Exhaust recovery system, ensuring balance ventilation
Central fresh air supply, ensuring a constant supply of fresh air
Central automated building monitoring and control system, requiring less manned equipment



So they will keep the best for last, beach towers and marina towers.

[Dubai_Steve]

On Saturday I am going to the sales center to find out some prices:)

Good, this will be very interesting.

[mackie1964]

Imre;

Can you ask about the launch date for the Marina and Beach towers please?

:cheers:

[Imre]

yes,

Do you have any idea about the prices?

[mackie1964]

No but if it is below AED2500/sqft for the right one, I will have some of this :)

I registered!

[High Times]

Those beach towers will be stunning.

Anyone want to buy 2 Torch 3 beds. :bash:

[FWIW]

Those beach towers will be stunning.

Anyone want to buy 2 Torch 3 beds. :bash:

Those beach towers will be stunning but also extremely expensive to a)buy and b)keep going re: service charge.

If I had the money then I would go for it...

BTW HT - what type of appartment would you buy in there? I think the 3 bed looks awesome.

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/media-files/2008/01/08/20080108_img-interior-3Bed-living.jpg

[Dubai_Steve]

No but if it is below AED2500/sqft for the right one, I will have some of this :)

I registered!

I am not sure that I would pay kind of price for the channel towers but I would perhaps (up to that amount) for the beach towers.

[Dubai_Steve]

Those beach towers will be stunning.

Anyone want to buy 2 Torch 3 beds. :bash:

Dont worry, the Torch will be ready before these are :D (2011/12) and just think about the price per sq ft you paid, less than 900 sq/ft I think :)

[mackie1964]

I am only interested in the front two :cheers:

The traffic will be interesting for 20,000 people!

"The expected population is approximately 20,000 for Dubai Promenade with approximately 9,700 residents"

[mackie1964]

This end of the Marina will be buzzing :cheers:

[Dubai_Steve]

I am only interested in the front two :cheers:

Glad to see you still have Lex Luther's "Affinity for beachfront property" http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/cool/cool0003.gif

[mackie1964]

Glad to see you still have Lex Luther's "Affinity for beachfront property" http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/cool/cool0003.gif

Its what the Boss wants :lol:

[Morten_Denmark]

Any guesses on payment plan ? What do you think we can expect ? 2% now and 98 % at hand-over and I am in too :-)

[Dubai_Steve]

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/media-files/2008/01/09/20080109_img-exterior-View-Z.jpg
http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/media-files/2008/01/09/20080109_img-exterior-channeltower.jpg
http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/media-files/2008/01/09/20080109_image-DP.jpg
http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/media-files/2008/01/08/20080108_img-interior-2Bed-Living.jpg
http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/media-files/2008/01/08/20080108_img-interior-2Bed-bath.jpg

[Morrismarina]

Yes I reckon this high end development will undoubtedly push up Botanica prices and also those of the Torch could benefit quite well IMO......... Glad I didn't buy in the arse-end area..........but I suppose it's got the power station as a consolation. :lol:

[True Blue]

Yes I reckon this high end development will undoubtedly push up Botanica prices and also those of the Torch could benefit quite well IMO......... Glad I didn't buy in the arse-end area..........but I suppose it's got the power station as a consolation. :lol:

Don't understand your logic. The views of both towers will be compromised by this development.

[Morrismarina]

Don't understand your logic. The views of both towers will be compromised by this development.

I wasn't really thinking of views here. There will be many people who want to buy in Dubai Promenade but simply can't afford the high price. So to buy in a development next door (Botanica) or Torch just down the road, will be the next option. So prices will increase in the surrounding area. :cheers:

[AltinD]

^^ What's wrong with you Morris (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=237875&page=46)? :ohno:


:D

[Morrismarina]

^^ What's wrong with you Morris (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=237875&page=46)? :ohno:


:D

Ok I'll be honest with you Altin but this is strictly between me and you OK. I've been looking at my finances tonight and well, without going into all the details, realised that TT & BC are going to cost me a bloody fortune by the time they're completed........whenever that may be. If I'd have hung on a few months instead of TT I could have bought in MP for almost the same price and it's going to be completed soon whereas TT is well........you know the story. So I'm trying to console myself by telling myself that it's all worthwhile ( I often talk to myself like this !) and Dubai Promenade will push up the value of TT so I will get good capital appreciation and it will have all been a good investment at the end of the day. As I say keep this to yourself as there are some people on this forum, such as True Blue, that I don't want to know about this. That's why I'm telling you all this by PM.

[Imre]

Dubai Promenade Sales Launch

Properties will ONLY be sold to customers who have registered for sales appointments. The name of the customer presented on the invitation letter should be the same as the name on the passport copy. Direct family member (s) i.e. spouse, parents and children should also register for an appointment. Property ownership can only be made under the purchaser (s) name (s) (as per his / her passport).

For a customer to buy a property on the day of sale he/ she must provide a colored passport copy or company documents if needed. There are no exceptions to this rule.

A maximum of One (1) property can be bought by a person at the time of sale, subject to presenting a colored copy of his/ her passport.

All additional joint owners to a property must complete the reference sheet that will be provided at the time of the sale. Adding or removing an owner (s) for a property thereafter shall be processed through Nakheel Customer Services standard policies and procedures. Colored passport copies of all owners involved in the property must be provided at the time of the sale.

Booking a property does not secure the sale. Confirmation of the booking will only be valid upon payment and clearance of the funds. Deposit Payment Cheques bounced due to insufficient funds will result in the property being forfeited.

Payments will only be accepted through current dated cheques. Foreign Cheques will not be accepted. Partial deposit payments will not be allowed. A deposit payment must be 10% of the purchase price.

Wire transfer will only be accepted for clients not residing in the UAE. A swift copy of the transfer must be provided within 24 hours of the sale. Currency conversions to/ from AED can only be confirmed at the rates prevailing on the day on which the monies are credited/ debited to our relevant bank account.

Purchaser (s) will receive a Sales Launch Reservation Contract, Payment Schedule, Payment Instruction and Nakheel Admin Rules once the sale transaction has been completed.

Transfer of name will not be allowed at the time of a sale. A property re-sale is not allowed prior to the issue and signing of the Property Sale and Purchase Agreement. Property re-sales have to be completed through Nakheel and to follow Nakheel’s Customer Services standard policies and procedures.

Note: Nakheel’s functional currency is AED. Cheques in foreign currencies or in UAE Dirham drawn on a foreign bank will not be accepted

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/en/rules-and-guidelines/

[DubaiMarina]

Do they now sell The Beach Towers or only The Channel Towers?

[Imre]

The Channel Towers first

[LoverOfDubai]

I have a question (but it is not specifically about the development).

Nakheel announced this project on 9 January 2008. How did people already know about this project before that? This thread began in August 2007.

I had not heard of this before it was just announced. How did people gain access to photos and information several months ahead of time?

[mackie1964]

Ok I'll be honest with you Altin but this is strictly between me and you OK. I've been looking at my finances tonight and well, without going into all the details, realised that TT & BC are going to cost me a bloody fortune by the time they're completed........whenever that may be. If I'd have hung on a few months instead of TT I could have bought in MP for almost the same price and it's going to be completed soon whereas TT is well........you know the story. So I'm trying to console myself by telling myself that it's all worthwhile ( I often talk to myself like this !) and Dubai Promenade will push up the value of TT so I will get good capital appreciation and it will have all been a good investment at the end of the day. As I say keep this to yourself as there are some people on this forum, such as True Blue, that I don't want to know about this. That's why I'm telling you all this by PM.


Morris;

Did you watch the "What Britain Earns" last night? If not, watch it on BBC\iplayer. It should cheer you up (90 minutes).

[mackie1964]

I have a question (but it is not specifically about the development).

Nakheel announced this project on 9 January 2008. How did people already know about this project before that? This thread began in August 2007.

I had not heard of this before it was just announced. How did people gain access to photos and information several months ahead of time?

Web search Engines in most cases

[PAULDELVES]

Those beach towers will be stunning.

Anyone want to buy 2 Torch 3 beds. :bash: HT - PM Me with details of TT I may be able to look at that

[DubaiMarina]

Those beach towers will be stunning.

Anyone want to buy 2 Torch 3 beds. :bash:

HT - PM Me with details of TT I may be able to look at that


LOL :lol:

High Times, your commercial was very effective and original!

[mackie1964]

What about a few 1 bedded rooms, Full Marina View ofcourse:)

Sorry Altin, could not resist this one:cheers:

[Morrismarina]

What about a few 1 bedded rooms, Full Marina View ofcourse:)

Sorry Altin, could not resist this one:cheers:

Yes I've got a one bed for sale as well, or may part-ex for same in Marina Promenade.





:lol:

[mackie1964]

^^ You should get some change from changing for an Emaar Project. Have you seen the quality:ohno:

[Imre]

I have a question (but it is not specifically about the development).

Nakheel announced this project on 9 January 2008. How did people already know about this project before that? This thread began in August 2007.

I had not heard of this before it was just announced. How did people gain access to photos and information several months ahead of time?

just an example:


http://www.vanoord.com/webfront/swf/vanoord_player.asp?vom=http://www.vanoord.com/public/Downloads/Movies/dubai_projects/minaseyahieng.flv

http://www.vanoord.com/webfront/base.asp?pageid=148&pi=37&cr=7&ca=-1#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FywMGIS0zvQ

[GoDubai!]

I have a question (but it is not specifically about the development).

Nakheel announced this project on 9 January 2008. How did people already know about this project before that? This thread began in August 2007.

I had not heard of this before it was just announced. How did people gain access to photos and information several months ahead of time?

Many projects also have an official or unofficial pre-launch. Sometimes, as Imre shows in this case, info can be uncovered on the net from architect or other consultant websites. Many developers start talking about their projects years before they even start. Nakheel, it seems, has a tendency to announce or leak things well in advance and the project often goes through numerous re-designs before it ever materializes. Don't be surprised if Dubai Promenade gets totally re-designed, scaled down or scuttled altogether in time.

In contrast, Emaar often has projects well underway, even before they are announced or launched and it is often hard to find out what's going on in advance.

[Imre]

The Channel Towers

price starts from 1500 dhs/sqft , cheapest 1 bed apr 1.5 million , VIP launch on 24th January, public launch on 27-28th January.

10 % booking

thats all , what I got from the sales centre, I will post pics later:)

[bizzybonita]

ohh yea that's what iam really like it ..thnx big imre don't forget to post the location of that tower and views plzzzzzzzzzz

[High Times]

The Channel Towers

price starts from 1500 dhs/sqft , cheapest 1 bed apr 1.5 million , VIP launch on 24th January, public launch on 27-28th January.

10 % booking

thats all , what I got from the sales centre, I will post pics later:)

Any idea when beach towers will be launched.

Is my understanding correct that to buy/book a unit you have to do it in person in Dubai ?

[Imre]

yes, you can buy just personally, and 1 person only 1 unit

The Channel Tower 1 , now
The Channel Tower 2 , Q2 2008
The Channel Tower 3 , Q3 2008

I think the Beach and Marina Towers just end 2008 or next year

[High Times]

Thank you Imre.

I better go and earn some serious money this year cause one of those beach tower units has got my name on it.

[Imre]

12/January/2007

Dubai Promenade

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8005/imresolt62fb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7681/imresolt63qm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7295/imresolt64xq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7343/imresolt68tp7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Imre]

12/January/2007

Dubai Promenade

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3058/imresolt38se5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6003/imresolt39bl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5228/imresolt40cg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1110/imresolt43lh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7316/imresolt44oj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6756/imresolt47jy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3938/imresolt48pf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/4063/imresolt49mu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2297/imresolt50bi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Imre]

and the view

[Imre]

and the view

12/January/2007

Dubai Promenade

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8397/imresolt45ov3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6835/imresolt46sj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3133/imresolt51qk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3662/imresolt52hf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/718/imresolt53nw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2464/imresolt56iv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/706/imresolt57tp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8351/imresolt58oc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5130/imresolt60jn2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3122/imresolt61yb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Imre]

12/January/2008

Dubai Promenade


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[Imre]

more info from the Nakheel:

Dubai Promenade: background

Dubai Promenade, a sophisticated waterfront community in ‘new Dubai’, will create a virtual peninsula along the Dubai shoreline, anchored by a spectacular wheel-shaped five-star hotel. On completion, the development will be able to accommodate around 10,000 residents in more than 2,000 residential units, and will offer in excess of 25,000 m2 of retail space and 17,000 m2 of office space.

Dubai Promenade is located between Dubai Marina and the seafront, and is adjacent to Dubai International Marine Club (DIMC). Strategically situated on its own peninsula, directly facing the sea, Dubai Promenade will have breathtaking vistas of the Arabian Gulf, The Palm Jumeirah and the coast towards Jebel Ali Port.

In addition to a selection of commercial and residential towers, cafés, restaurants and retail offerings will span the length of the entire waterfront. Dubai Promenade will have its own marina with more than 60 berths. Surrounded by the sea, marina and natural beach, Dubai Promenade will offer panoramic views, idyllic walkways, and carefully considered architecture to create a distinctly different residential and commercial environment.


Dubai Promenade: key facts

- Demolition work completed end November 2007
- Reclamation work to be completed by March 2008
- Construction to start mid 2008
- Investor sales launch January 2008
- Expected population: more than 10,000 residents, plus workers and visitors
- Comprises eight residential towers, one office tower, retail space, a boutique hotel, and a centrepiece wheel-shaped hotel

[mackie1964]

Imre;

Do you know if this project would have the same offshore status as the Palm (alcohol license...etc)?

Many thanks for sharing mate :cheers:

[Imre]

dont know this:)


What do you think about the price , from 1500 dh/sqft.. I think not too bad, one of the best loction in Dubai.

[mackie1964]

Excellent Price for this location :)

I think the beach towers will start at AED2250to 2500minimum, depending on ability to do a short term rental.

This is a place my family and I would love to live in if they stop missing around and introducing a law everyday :banana:

[High Times]

I agree,

The Beach towers will be possibly the best location residences on mainland Dubai.

Imagine getting out of the lift from your appartment, walking out of the lobby, past the pool and onto the beach. Fantastic.

They will sell out on first day and they wont be cheap, Mackie the prices your talking about sound about right, maybe more.

It will be interesting to see how the Channel Towers sell.

I will be looking into this when i next go back to Dubai in the spring.

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Yes get to work High Times and start earning some money for the payments :D

I am also tempted if I can earn some money this year.

However for investment maybe these channel towers are good at 1500 per sq/ft much cheaper than I thought and since there is a staged release you can be sure each tower introduced for sale will be quite more expensive than the last. So might be worth flipping one of these units in order to help pay for the beach units.

Thankls for the photos and info Imre! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0005.gif

[mackie1964]

I was surprised at the amount of positive feed back for Emirate Marina considering the construction site around it, @ over £400 a night on avarage and still under commissioning in parts:cheers:



http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g295424-d636140-r12394301-Emirates_Marina_Hotel_Residence-Dubai.html

[High Times]

^^

Heres to short term lets at the Torch guy's :cheers:

F**K the rent caps...............

[mackie1964]

What about beach access? I get access with my booking :)

You will have to make a deal with one of the beach clubs:cheers:

[Dubai_Steve]

^^ Interesting reviews Lex! Yes perhaps worth getting a beach club deal for short term rents, if it is transferable to tennants ?

[jeetha]

^^Paste some very large posters of the beach on the walls:lol:

[mackie1964]

Have you seen all the photos Steve? The interiors and furnishing are nothing special!

[Dubai_Steve]

Have you seen all the photos Steve? The interiors and furnishing are nothing special!

Yes all of them :) but they are larger rooms compared to the Torch I think, for example the kitchen.

Anyway you better get out of here before superman AltinD comes !

[High Times]

What about beach access? I get access with my booking :)

You will have to make a deal with one of the beach clubs:cheers:

Absolutely, you have paid for it too.... at those prices.

Anyone know who will be running/managing the doghnut hotel here ?

[carpetking]

@mackie1964

You have beach access with your booking ??

good to know :cheers: :wink2:

[ps500]

yes, you can buy just personally, and 1 person only 1 unit

The Channel Tower 1 , now
The Channel Tower 2 , Q2 2008
The Channel Tower 3 , Q3 2008

I think the Beach and Marina Towers just end 2008 or next year

Imre

Which is Channel tower 1 ? nearest the sea or nearest Marina ?

[AltinD]

It seams a big chunk of reclamation work is done.

[bizzybonita]

dont know this:)


What do you think about the price , from 1500 dh/sqft.. I think not too bad, one of the best loction in Dubai.

Thnx alot big imre for info :) can't wait for lunch prices ???:)

[dubaifirst]

The Channel Towers

price starts from 1500 dhs/sqft , cheapest 1 bed apr 1.5 million , VIP launch on 24th January, public launch on 27-28th January.

10 % booking

thats all , what I got from the sales centre, I will post pics later:)

This price is not bad at all, its almost equivalent to Botanica.

[rexdmx]

^^ Yes get to work High Times and start earning some money for the payments :D

I am also tempted if I can earn some money this year.

However for investment maybe these channel towers are good at 1500 per sq/ft much cheaper than I thought and since there is a staged release you can be sure each tower introduced for sale will be quite more expensive than the last. So might be worth flipping one of these units in order to help pay for the beach units.

Thankls for the photos and info Imre! http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animals/animal0005.gif


why flip when u can hold on to a good unit?:dunno:

i reckon this would be worth quite a lot two years down the line

[DubaiMarina]

Imre

Which is Channel tower 1 ? nearest the sea or nearest Marina ?

Do you Imre know that?

[Imre]

sorry,I dont know.

I have an appointment for 27th of January , 8:00 am, I will see.

What about the payment plan? The sales fact said, re-sale is not possible just after when I got the sales contract, do you know how many percent need for it?

("Transfer of name will not be allowed at the time of a sale. A property re-sale is not allowed prior to the issue and signing of the Property Sale and Purchase Agreement. Property re-sales have to be completed through Nakheel and to follow Nakheel’s Customer Services standard policies and procedures.")

[DubaiMarina]

Thank you for your answer. :)

[Mavekris]

The channed towers are on sale from 24th can make an appointment at www.dubaipromenade.ae.

project looks very impressive :banana:

should be a very good investment

[bizzybonita]

^^^^all eyes focus in this project... good investment :yes:

[bizzybonita]

http://www.dubaipromenade.ae/images/217~251~2~ffffff~82~0~nak047-v1-en~0/20080109_image-DP-01.jpg

[Dubaione]

Very nice project, looks like Madinat Al Arab of Dubai Waterfront :bowtie:

[Mavekris]

very true :)

This project will definetly stand out from the rest in marina when completed.

Does any one have any idea what will be the price for sq.ft?

Appreciate your inputs.

Thanks

[Imre]

at the moment we know that price starts from 1500 dhs/sqft , thats all.

[glover]

got more info from the Sales Office. The tower on sale will be al-shimal, which is the first tower closest to the beach towers. it will be 40 floors high.

you can buy one unit at each tower sale. resale is possible after the contract is issued, which usually takes 2-3 months!

i have an appointment for the 27th at 11 am. will go for a 3-bed if the price is right. intend to use it as my home.

no more appointments are available as of Sunday afternoon.

[jeetha]

I've emailed them for an appointment, still waiting.

[Dubai_Steve]

I think most of the SSC members will end up living in these towers :lol:

[cugeneva]

I think most of the SSC members will end up living in these towers :lol:

only the rich ones.....:nuts:

[Imre]

Nakheel to reveal plans for new era of waterfront development at TDIM 2008


Dubai, 14 January 2008: Nakheel, one of the world’s largest privately-held property developers, will showcase plans for its new era of waterfront development at this year’s TDIM 2008 (Tourism Development project & Investment Market), a new exhibition taking place at Dubai World Trade Centre on 20th to 22nd January.

Nakheel will play a key role in the first ever TDIM exhibition with the largest stand in the company’s history, which is approximately the same size as three Olympic swimming pools. A number of new developments will be revealed in exciting shows talking place in two large domes situated within the stand. Nakheel will also unveil a 13 metre-long scale model of Dubai with an updated show, detailing the role the waterfront has played in the growth of Dubai and the major role Nakheel has played in this.

Each of Nakheel’s waterfront projects will be displayed at the exhibition, including the latest addition to Nakheel’s diverse portfolio of projects, Dubai Promenade. A model of the recently launched waterfront community is set to be revealed, which will allow visitors to see how Dubai Promenade will create a virtual peninsula along the emirate’s shoreline anchored by a spectacular five-star wheel-shaped hotel.

Manal Shaheen, Director, Sales, Marketing and Customer Services, said: “Nakheel is thrilled to play such a major role in the first ever TDIM exhibition. As the creator of some of the world’s most iconic developments, TDIM provides a perfect opportunity to showcase our most visionary projects, such as The Palm Jumeirah and The World, but also the exciting new waterfront projects that we are launching this month. The Nakheel stand is the largest that we have ever created in our history and will feature some truly spectacular attractions.”

Fast Future / Global Futures and Foresight (GFF), a strategic futures think tank, which draws on a global network of business, academics, and future thinkers from across the world, will also feature at Nakheel’s stand. Nakheel is currently sponsoring a study conducted by GFF, titled ‘The Future of Travel and Tourism in the Middle East – A Vision to 2020’; seminars discussing this study will also be conducted at the exhibition.

Manal Shaheen added: “The partnership with GFF provides an opportunity for Nakheel to further demonstrate that we are taking positive steps in recognising the long term effects of ongoing development.”


Project updates: The Palm Trilogy

The first residents began moving into The Palm Jumeirah at the end of 2006 and now more than 1,500 homes have been handed over. The Palm Jumeirah’s villas and apartments sold out within days of launch and now yield average premiums of 70-120%. Over the next three to four years, Nakheel will transform The Palm Jumeirah into one of the world’s premier resorts with an average of 25,000 hotel guests and 20,000 visitors a day. There will be 30 five star hotels including Atlantis and Trump Tower, luxury marinas, and a purpose built theatre for Cirque du Soleil. The QE2 will also be located off The Palm Jumeirah.

The Palm Jebel Ali which will add a further 100 kilometres of coastline to Dubai is progressing at a rapid pace. Reclamation on the project began in October 2002 and reclamation of land from the original masterplan is now 100% complete. Reclamation of additions to the original master plan, including the lengthening of fronds and widening of the spine is underway. Primary breakwater construction work was completed in December 2006 by leading engineering company, Jan de Nul, and infrastructure work commenced in April 2007 with the construction of six bridges by Samsung which will connect to the mainland.

At the opposite end of Dubai, The Palm Deira – the newest and largest of the Palm developments – is also progressing well, and in terms of reclaimed land is already bigger than The Palm Jumeirah. Reclamation of the entire project is on schedule to be completed by 2013. The Palm Deira will add 226 kilometres of coastline and will be 4,635 hectares in size. Eighty per cent of The Palm Deira is expected to be for residential purposes. This new ‘city’ will include a wide variety of facilities, amenities and public services, from schools to hospitals, places of worship to recreational facilities, shopping malls to sports amenities for use by up to one million people.

Based four kilometres offshore from Dubai in the Arabian Gulf, one of Nakheel’s most iconic projects, The World, is also progressing at a rapid pace. Land reclamation has now been fully completed and more than half of the total islands available for sale have been sold. Last year saw a huge demand from investors; with almost 50 islands sold. Measuring approximately 9 kilometres in width by 7 kilometres in length, the development covers approximately 931 hectares and adds an additional 232 kilometres of beachfront to Dubai’s coastline. Cost of islands vary depending on size and location, and are currently between $15- $50 million.

[DXBFan79]

at the moment we know that price starts from 1500 dhs/sqft , thats all.

The latest indicative price that I've heard from a reliable source is Dhs. 2000 per sq. ft. What say experts???

[Dubai_Steve]

That is too much. Why the increase from 1500 ?

[bizzybonita]

^^^^
IT's the beginning , not expensive ...for that good location..

[Dubai_Steve]

Forget it I will buy another apartment in the Torch instead for half the price :D

[Stephan23]

Finally a new wonderful project!! :master: :omg:

[Stephan23]

Render looks awesome!!!

[i love dubai]

Every one loves this project, but as an architect I have to give my point of view on it. I think the location is great and if you look at each building individually you see a well designed building (except for the doughnut shaped hotel) which I think looks like a highway advertisment for tires or doughnuts.
What I can't see is a concept for the project as whole. A concept that ties all the buildings together (not physically but visiually).

[Imre]

I heard today, maybe the Nasa Multiplex will be the main contractor here.

[maryamnademi]

It is because the whole site is not designed by one architectural firm.Every one loves this project, but as an architect I have to give my point of view on it. I think the location is great and if you look at each building individually you see a well designed building (except for the doughnut shaped hotel) which I think looks like a highway advertisment for tires or doughnuts.
What I can't see is a concept for the project as whole. A concept that ties all the buildings together (not physically but visiually).

[Omaro]

Yesterday, Jan 17, 2008

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[NEWUSER]

Great updates, this project is fantastic.

[Mavekris]

Great pics omaro


very nice pics

[PAULDELVES]

Omaro - which tower and what level were the elevated pics taken from was it the new habtoor tower level 30 ish ? grest pics by the way

[Omaro]

Glad you like them guys. Took them from the 25th level (Top level) of Habtoor Grand Hotel (The other tower is 20 or 22 levels I think). Not sure of the height.