... I dont think there is a chance in HELL that the Ravens have a shot to make the Super Bowl. ... Why?

(1) Young team=inexperience=not good for the playoffs.

(2) You didnt beat the Steelers in the regular season, regardless of the score.

(3) You think the Steelers are going to be the same in the playoffs? Fat chance, theyre going to be much much tougher.

(4) Just what you want with a rookie quarterback leading the way right? I dont think so.

(5) Most likely all roads to the super bowl go through Pittsburgh, a team that looks to be built for the playoffs,

(6) filled with veteran defensive players and possibly the most physical defensive team in football, not to mention a much better offense. ...

Hmmmm. Some responses to your assertions ....

(1) True, the Ravens have ten rookies on their active roster compared to the Steelers five, but the average years of experience of the rest favors the Ravens, 6.2 years to 3.5. At the coaching level, it's a wash: we're pitting a first-year head coach against a second-year head coach who inherited a Super Bowl-winning team.

(2) Nope, but our rookie QB took them into overtime the first time (in his third game as a pro), and was a questionable call away from a victory the second time.

(3) Steelers may be tougher; the Ravens unquestionably are. Ask Chad Pennington.

(4) Flacco's not (yet) the second coming of Pittsburgh exile Johnny Unitas, but his QB rating's better than Roethlisberger's. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&sort=rat&league=nfl&season=2&year=2008

Also note this bit from ESPN: "Roethlisberger (concussion) sat out practice again on Tuesday (last week) but flipped the football around in his sweats." If Bart Scott hits him like Scott hit Pennington yesterday, R-berger's done.

(5) Unless the road goes through San Diego, which has beaten the Steelers both times they faced them in the playoffs.

(6) Pittsburgh and Baltimore are 1-2 in defense http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=team&sort=ypg&pos=def&league=nfl&year=2008&season=2
and 22-18 in offense, with Baltimore averaging 12 more yards a game.

Basically--if the two teams meet again--we're looking at another nailbiter, with Pittsburgh's home field advantage giving them a slight edge.

Enough with all the haters, I don't even know why you guys pay attention to them. On a bright note, that kid Leonhard has a future in the NFL, he has been a great addition to our defense. Don't you guys think?

Enough with all the haters, I don't even know why you guys pay attention to them. On a bright note, that kid Leonhard has a future in the NFL, he has been a great addition to our defense. Don't you guys think?

I find Leonhard to be even more exciting to watch as a kick returner. I got tired of seeing Figurs run for eight yards into a pile on every return. After Reed, Leonhard is my favorite to watch run in the open field.

Enough with all the haters, I don't even know why you guys pay attention to them. On a bright note, that kid Leonhard has a future in the NFL, he has been a great addition to our defense. Don't you guys think?

I agree with you "Ex", he was a nice addtion from Buffalo. Leonard seems to be around every play and making some nice tackles for a guy 5'8", 185 lbs. He is also proving himself as a kickoff return specialist, better than Figures. Some sportswriters are believing that the ravens can go all the way to the big game. Flacco has to step it up a notch or two. Can't just rely on the defense like 2000. Teams that the Ravens will face on their journey have great defense as well. Pitts has the best and the road might lead through Steel town. BTW If the ravens get by Tenn, I would rather play the Steelers than the Chargers. Teams traveling between the coasts have not done well.

Enough with all the haters, I don't even know why you guys pay attention to them. ...

Eh. As long as the comments aren't attacks directed at another commenter (and "en1044's" wasn't), no need for the forum to be a 24-7 Ravens love-fest.

... Flacco has to step it up a notch or two. Can't just rely on the defense like 2000. ...

Wait. What? Flacco looked like Alan Ameche running that TD in yesterday. Trent Dilfer never played like that in Y2K. What needs to happen first is that Todd "the Stormin' Mormon" Heap's gotta be more reliable catching the ball.

Wait. What? Flacco looked like Alan Ameche running that TD in yesterday. Trent Dilfer never played like that in Y2K. What needs to happen first is that Todd "the Stormin' Mormon" Heap's gotta be more reliable catching the ball.


Jamie I agree, Flacco's 5 yard carry into the end zone was reminiscent of Ameche's famous carry 50-years ago. However, Flacco has to be more accurate with the long ball and cannot settle for 3 inside of the Red Zone. Amassing field goals got the Ravens to the Big One in 2000, but today's competition is tougher. They need to put points on the board, and the earlier the better. The Ravens are more intimidating and wear down teams when their foes have to play catch-up.

I agree whole-heartedly! Reed is simply AWESOME!!!!!!!!! And Leonard is becoming a NAME you will not soon forget! Great effort by him!!!!
I feel more than confident that this upcoming game will be nothing short of AWESOME!!!

Did you guys hear the playoff slogan created by the Ravens throughout this year's playoffs? It was created by John Harbaugh's father. It was made from the 1965 heavyweight fight between Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston. Throughout the fight, Liston kept calling him outside his name, so Ali kept tagging him throughout the fight screeming "What's my name!!" until Liston finally fell to the ground like a tree. Personally, I like the slogan! It was a great description of what happened yesterday in Miami.

Here's the slogan. What's our name? BALTIMORE RAVENS!!

What do you guys think?

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

Link above will take you to the site to vote for Pepsi rookie of the year. Vote as many times as you'd like (as long as it's for Flacco). Winner will be announced at the S.B.

Did you guys hear the playoff slogan created by the Ravens throughout this year's playoffs? It was created by John Harbaugh's father. It was made from the 1965 heavyweight fight between Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston. Throughout the fight, Liston kept calling him outside his name, so Ali kept tagging him throughout the fight screeming "What's my name!!" until Liston finally fell to the ground like a tree. Personally, I like the slogan! It was a great description of what happened yesterday in Miami.

Here's the slogan. What's our name? BALTIMORE RAVENS!!

What do you guys think?nah, don't like it.

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

Link above will take you to the site to vote for Pepsi rookie of the year. Vote as many times as you'd like (as long as it's for Flacco). Winner will be announced at the S.B.done. i think at this point, regardless of what happens, flacco should win this award, hands down. matt ryan had a great season, but joe's taken his team further.

^^ You would think so. But this is Baltimore we are talking about. Baltimore and it's peeps always get dissed it seems. I hope I wrong about this though, because he does deserve it.

done. i think at this point, regardless of what happens, flacco should win this award, hands down. matt ryan had a great season, but joe's taken his team further.

rookie of the year is essentially the MVP of the rookies...sorry, but Flacco wasnt as important to the Ravens winning as Matt Ryan was.

rookie of the year is essentially the MVP of the rookies...sorry, but Flacco wasnt as important to the Ravens winning as Matt Ryan was.

Yeah, Atlanta pre-Ryan was effed up big time. Huuuuge recovery from the Vick-era fiasco. Not all on account of "Matty Ice," but he gets big props and probably the RotY pick.

Purple Friday everyone....... game's about 24 hours away!!

Whats Our Name?

:righton:RAVENS!:righton:


And Ed Reed After catching his second INT: :runaway:

^^i remember my dad once telling me a story about a super bowl back in the late 60's. he told me joe namath guaranteed a victory against the baltimore colts, and indeed, the jets won....



with that being said, i'm guaranteeing a victory tomorrow. no doubt about it.

January 12, 1969 New York Jets 16–7 over the Baltimore Colts played at the Miami Orange Bowl :(

3 days from 40 years ago.

^^wow, i learn something new everyday. i never knew about this game. thanks.

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/nba/blog/joe1.jpg

No problem. A very famous game in NFL football history, for sure. Not a good one for us Baltimore peeps. But none the less, it was one of the best remembered games.

Not a good result, but Unitas didn't start that game. It also served to ridiculously inflate the career of "Broadway" Joe Namath to the point that he's in the HOF with some pretty pedestrian career numbers.

My favorite re-tellings of that game are Namath's, though. While the Jets were looking to have the game in hand, Don Shula finally relented & replace Morrall with a less-than-100% Unitas.
After an initial 3-and-out, the Colts were suddenly able to move the ball & Namath's crew stood helplessly on the sideline watching momentum clearly shift away from New York. Namath couldn't stop pacing & kept muttering "Johnny U" under his breath. But the injury/rust coupled with the lack of time prevented Unitas from mounting any game-winning drive & the Jets won SB3.

Unitas never forgave Shula for bringing him in so late & maintained the Colts would have won the game if he'd had more time.

Well, at least the Baltimore Colts got one Super Bowl victory before they snuck out of town.

I can't believe after 20 plus years baltimoreans are still sore about jim irsay moving the team out to indie in the middle of the night. Can't you guys just forgive and forget? Acceptance is the first step of the healing proccess, you know.

^^ Would have been nice to at least have kept the name.

Name and history... now all of the records set in B-more belong to Indy.
But I'm pretty much passed all of that now that we have the ravens... time to move on. At least Art left the name and history for Cleveland to cherish.

Time to pray for the miracle of the day...(go Ravens!)

RAVENS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

13-10
Bring on the next team!! :)

bal-13 tenn-10


holy mackerel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ya' gotta' believe fellas!!! we can do this! we're one game away from the super bowl.



you're got damn right , steve!!!! bring it on, whoever it is!!!! next week, we'll either be headed to sunny beaches of southern california or to the mountains of western pennsylvania. wherever we go, we can beat anyone, any team, anywhere, anytime. omg, GREAT defensive effort. matt stover did his usual thing. wow, what a team!!!!


the #1 seed in the afc playoffs..............POOF! gone with the wind!

I would like to have another crack at the Steelers. That would be a helluva game.

^^honestly, i don't think it matters who we play. it's full steam ahead at this point. we have a stifling defense that, in my opinion, is playing better as good or better than the 2001 defense and we have a quarterback who definitely has that winning fire in his eyes. excellent combination!

Think about it. Only one more game to win and the Ravens are in the Super Bowl. :uh:
Two more wins away from ultimate victory!!!! :righton:

Go Ravens!!!

A nail biter ! A furious battle, what a game !

January 12, 1969 New York Jets 16–7 over the Baltimore Colts played at the Miami Orange Bowl :(

3 days from 40 years ago.

...gasp!! Hard to believe it's been that long ago. I remember watching the game with my Dad. '69 was a disastrious year for Baltimore sports. 10 months later, the Mets beat the O's in the World Series for another improbable win, giving NY a rare double...championships in both major sports. But just 2 years later, little ole B'more accomplished the feat...O's beat Cincy in the '70 series and the Colts won the '71 Super Bowl!!

Matt Stover's gotta be the most hated man in Tennessee!!! For the 2nd time in 8 years, his leg makes the difference in the playoffs!! It's like deja vu...knocking off the Titans again under very similar circumstances as 2001 and the strong possiblity of facing the Giants again in the Super Bowl, in the same city, Tampa.

^^ Yeah, I was thinking about that exact same thing last night. :lol:
That would be a great deja vu! :yes:
But, really, if you look at the history between the Baltimore NFL teams and the NY Giants, since the 50's Baltimore has beat them everytime in the big game. Look it up. It's a trip. And you know, I don't think that the Giants and their fans really want to see us again in the big game. :no:

Ok, now that my heart has started to beat again, all I can say is GREAT GAME !!!!!!! Let's all keep our fingers crossed for a trip to Tampa. It would be crazy if we made it and faced the Giants like we did 8 years ago, let's just hope we can get the same outcome. I don't care who we play next because it's going to be a great team, and a smashmouth game (I'd love a little stealer revenge though). Go Ravens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ravens had a little help from the refs; on that final pass, the 40 second clock had clearly expired before flaco threw the ball, come on refs, pay attention to the play clock next time! What the heck is wrong with the officiating this season??

ravens had a little help from the refs; on that final pass, the 40 second clock had clearly expired before flaco threw the ball, come on refs, pay attention to the play clock next time! What the heck is wrong with the officiating this season??
ah, what a sour anti-ravens fan. Get over it. That was on a 3rd and 7, and Heap caught a 23 yard pass..... so do the math, if they had called that, they still would've converted on the pass play to Heap. That happens EVERY week in the NFL, in one game or another. AFC CHAMPIONSHIP TIME BACK IN SHITTSBURGH!!!! :cheers:

^^jamie's right. this guy's (yamota) not worth the time. we know the truth.


well fellas, here we go!

ravens, steelers, one more time. this time is for all the marbles!

Whew! Those A-holes from philly came through for me! At least I got 1 out of 4...you gotta admit, the eagles were pretty impressive tonight, even that dumbass mcnabb played good. But anyway, on to my predictions for next week! Here goes, wish me luck:


I predict:

pittsburgh stoolers over san dayglo juggers 24-10

carolina panties over arizoner cardidulls 17-13

tennesee tight pants over baltisore faydins 20-7

new jerk jackholes over philadelphia shmeegles 30-24


and my new revised superbowl champions: The New York football giants for the re-peat! :D


Looks like you were dead on with your predictions again 'mota:).

"ravens had a little help from the refs; on that final pass, the 40 second clock had clearly expired before flaco threw the ball, come on refs, pay attention to the play clock next time! What the heck is wrong with the officiating this season??"

I'll agree with you on this one though. We did not get that off in time. Although, the announcers did say that they usually give an extra second after it hits zero. Seems like that was a long second though, but hey I'll take it. We've had plenty of horrible calls go against us in crucial game deciding moments this year, it's about time one went our way. I've actually seen this same thing with the play clock happen against us at least 2 times this year and no flag. Also... this is sweet justice for the horrible "ruffing the passer" against Suggs in the First Titans matchup earlier this year, which allowed them to go down the field for a winning touchdown drive. All that being said, you can't blame a loss on a bad call, if the Titans were who we thought they were then they shouldn't have allowed our little rookie qb to complete the drive for the winning fg, or allowed our d to force all of the turnovers. Still one of the most hard fought games I've seen in a while, until next Sunday vs team steal-a-lot. That Titans game (or our next) may be even better than the s.b., as far as "edge of the seat" excitement goes IMHO.

come on guys, just because I don't pick your team doesn't mean i'm anti-ravens, I'm just being objective, basing my pics on stats, scientific facts and my own gut feeling. I couldn't care less if the ravens win the superbowl or not, or the eagles or the steelers or the cardinals or whoever. If the Redskins were in the playoffs I wouldn't even be predicting winners since I'd be emotionally involved and that emotion might cloud my judgement. Granted I haven't really been doing so well in my pics lately anyway :D But did I call the Steelers game or what?? :)

You know we still love you 'mota, besides, you're keeping our spirits up with your predicting ability. Yamstradamus you are:lol:.

Well, it's Pittsburgh. Baltimore-Shitsburgh, next sunday ... revenge awaits.

On the first day of school a first grade teacher explains to her
class that she is a Steelers fan. She asks her students to raise their hands if they, too, are Steelers fans. Wanting to impress their teacher, everyone in the class raises their hand except one little girl.
The teacher looks at the girl with surprise, 'Janie, why didn't you
raise your hand?'

Because I'm not a Steelers fan,' she replied.

The teacher, still shocked, asked, 'Well, if you are not a Steelers fan,
then who are you a fan of?'

'I am a Ravens fan, and proud of it,' Janie replied.

The teacher could not believe her ears. 'Janie please tell us why you
are a Ravens fan?'

Because my mom is a Ravens fan, and my dad is Ravens fan, so I'm a
Ravens fan too!''

Well ,said the teacher in an obviously annoyed tone, 'that is no reason
for you to be a Ravens fan. You don't have to be just like your parents
all of the time. What if your mom was an idiot and your dad was a moron,
what would you be then?'

'Then,' Janie smiled, 'I'd be a Steelers
fan.'



NUMBER 2


A Redskins fan, an Eagles fan, a Ravens fan, and a Steelers fan - are
climbing a mountain and arguing about who loves his team more.

The Redskins fan insists he is the most loyal. 'This is for the
Redskins! ' he yells, and jumps off the side of the mountain.

Not to be outdone, the Eagles fan shouts, 'This is for the Eagles!'
and throws himself off the mountain.

The Ravens fan is next to profess his love for his team. He yells,
'This is for everyone!' and pushes the Steelers fan off the mountain.


NUMBER 3

A Ravens fan liked to amuse himself by scaring every Steelers fan he
saw strutting down th e street in an obnoxious Black & Gold shirt. He
would swerve his van as if to hit them then swerve back just missing
them.
>
> >One day while driving along, he saw a priest. He thought he would do
a good deed, so he pulled over and asked the priest, 'Where are you
going, Father?'
>
> 'I' m going to give Mass at St. Francis church, about two miles down
the road,' replied the priest. 'Climb in, Father I'll give you a lift!'
The priest climbed into the passenger seat, and they continued down the
road.

Suddenly, the driver saw a Steelers fan walking down the road, and he
instinctively swerved as if to hit him. But, as usual, he swerved back
onto the road just in time.

Even though he was certain that he had missed the guy, he still
heard a loud THUD. Not knowing where the noise came from, he glanced in
his mirrors but still didn't see anything.

He then rememb ered the priest, and he turned to the priest and said,
sorry Father , I almost hit that Steelers fan.'

'That's OK,' replied the priest 'I got him with the door.'

:lol: :banana::banana: :applause: :cheers1:

That's funny!! :hilarious

^^:lol::hilarious

I hear some of the ravens coaching staff put bounties on the heads of some of the steeler players; that's like straight out of the buddy ryan playbook, you know that's not gonna sit well in the steeler locker room; those dudes are gonna be fired up, the game will be a bloodbath

A bloodbath, indeed! The Ravens won't back down either! It's win or go home time! And the Ravens have a lot more to prove. I can't wait until Sunday!:cheer::grouphug::dance2::dj::rock::cheers1::banana2::eat::gunz:

Ravens-Titans was a bloodbath. Ravens-Steelers will be something far worse.

Game of the century

I believe this game will be close as were the previous two. I thought the point spread would favor Pitts by 3. However, it opened with Pitts by 4 1/2, then went to 5, today its 6. Do bettors know something? This trend has me a bit concerned. By all objective analysis it should be a close game.

^^ That's ok. You all know we love being the underdog ! Bring it on !!!!

Even though Pittsburgh is favored, it would be very rare that one team could defeat a fairly evenly-matched opponent three times in a single season. I think the laws of probability are on our side.

I hope you're right, Peter. :yes:
I just wonder if Suggs will be ready for the game. He's big for us.

this game's gonna' come down to two factors. 1)who creates the most turnovers and 2)who has the best field position throughout the game.

Even though Pittsburgh is favored, it would be very rare that one team could defeat a fairly evenly-matched opponent three times in a single season. I think the laws of probability are on our side.yeah, it one of those things that's very rare. i think the 3rd time's a charm for us. i'm feeling really good about our chances.

http://baltimore.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2009/01/12/daily36.html

Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 6:25pm EST
Pittsburgh mayor removes 'Ravens' from last name
Baltimore Business Journal

In a move designed to show hometown team spirit, Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said Wednesday he will temporarily go by another moniker.

Ravenstahl ceremonially changed his name to "Steelerstahl," removing the name of the Baltimore Ravens, who will face the Steelers Sunday in the AFC Championship game at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.

“On behalf of the Steelers Nation, I’ve decided to remove the word ‘Ravens’ from my name just like the Steelers will remove them from the AFC Championship,” the mayor said in a statement. “From now until Sunday, all references to my name will reflect Pittsburgh’s love and support for our Steelers — and suggest a victory.”

The mayor's name change is effective until Sunday, according to a release from his office.

Ha !

I hope you're right, Peter. :yes:
I just wonder if Suggs will be ready for the game. He's big for us.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens15jan15002019,0,5716692.story

http://baltimore.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2009/01/12/daily36.html

Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 6:25pm EST
Pittsburgh mayor removes 'Ravens' from last name
Baltimore Business Journal

In a move designed to show hometown team spirit, Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said Wednesday he will temporarily go by another moniker.

Ravenstahl ceremonially changed his name to "Steelerstahl," removing the name of the Baltimore Ravens, who will face the Steelers Sunday in the AFC Championship game at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.

“On behalf of the Steelers Nation, I’ve decided to remove the word ‘Ravens’ from my name just like the Steelers will remove them from the AFC Championship,” the mayor said in a statement. “From now until Sunday, all references to my name will reflect Pittsburgh’s love and support for our Steelers — and suggest a victory.”

The mayor's name change is effective until Sunday, according to a release from his office.sheez, it's just a name! don't sweat it! i always knew that luke RAVENstahl was one of us.....lol.

Rally from 10 AM - Noon tomorrow in downtown Bel Air

I wonder if raven simone will change her name too?

^^lol, right.

Two words...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/DELsoul99/work1-16-09098.jpg

^^:D:applause:

AWESOME!!! Is that for real? If it is, it should be in the SUN or Sports Illustrated! :yes:

^^Yes it's for real. I shot it out the window on my way home from work yesterday. They have had purple lights shining on the pile for about two weeks now, but Mon. on the way in to work I noticed they added the "Go Ravens". This is on the right side as you are heading south on 95 just before the toll booths for the tunnel, in between 95 and Canton. I'm not sure what it is a pile of... other than team spirit:).

Too bad you're not around town Steven. The whole city has "Go Ravens" signs and billboards up, and there are purple lights added to the skyline every week.

:cry: :cry: :cry: To be in Baltimore now.... :cry: :cry: :cry:

Too bad you're not around town Steven. The whole city has "Go Ravens" signs and billboards up, and there are purple lights added to the skyline every week.Yes! The base of the Harbor East Marriott even has purple lights on it. The Team spirit here is truly exciting. We are going to do it tomorrow night. I can just feel it!

I was driving around town Friday night with a friend who is a die-hard Steelers fan and all we can see was GO RAVENS signs, purple lights everywhere. I loved it , she hated it :lol:

All I have to say is, GO RAVENS!!!

"Fly like a" raven, "into the future" (super bowl). Almost sounds like it could be a classic song, hmmmmmm...................... Go Ravens:)

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/DELsoul99/B-more%201-03-09/AroundtheCity1-03-09048.jpg

well tonight's final score was a big suprise...

well tonight's final score was a big suprise...

No joy in Mudville tonight, but for the first time since the Browns/Ravens came to this town, we seem to have a quarterback with some promise for the future. Who would have thought last year that they'd be in the conference championship game with a QB that can throw and think.

No joy in Mudville tonight, but for the first time since the Browns/Ravens came to this town, we seem to have a quarterback with some promise for the future. Who would have thought last year that they'd be in the conference championship game with a QB that can throw and think.

i do think that next year they will be legitimate contenders, but this year i think they go to the championship game with just a little bit of luck.

i do think that next year they will be legitimate contenders, but this year i think they go to the championship game with just a little bit of luck.

Let's just hope that McGahee is OK. That was one real nasty collision and he seemed to get the worst.

pitt-23 bal-14

when willis mcgahee got carted off the field from that frightening hit, it wasn't even about football anymore. not to mention, they didn't call helmet-to-helmet!!

but that's not to take anything away from the steelers. they played a great game. we had our chances in the 2nd half, but we just didn't capitalize. troy polamalu sealed the dagger in our hearts with that interception for a touchdown.

Let's just hope that McGahee is OK. That was one real nasty collision and he seemed to get the worst.yeah, it looked like steelers DB ryan clark atleast tried to hit him with his shoulder pad, but ended up gettin' him with the crown of his helmet. sad ordeal.

i do think that next year they will be legitimate contenders, but this year i think they go to the championship game with just a little bit of luck.so, if (or shall i say WHEN) we get to this point next year, you're not gonna' hate on the ravens? you're not going to say it's a fluke?



i'm gonna' hold you to this, you know that right?.....lol.:okay::lol:

:'( ... I was texted that ! It's a crying face. I'm proud of the team and the way they played this year but at the same time a little sad that we didn't win when we could have.

so, if (or shall i say WHEN) we get to this point next year, you're not gonna' hate on the ravens? you're not going to say it's a fluke?



i'm gonna' hold you to this, you know that right?.....lol.:okay::lol:

as i did this year, im going to pick the team that i think has the best chance to win. im 1-1 baby, and it has nothing to do with how i feel about baltimore.

some day you raven fans will learn that although you may hate us, we really dont think twice about you. :)

That stupid personal foul, slamming the steeler player to the ground nearly 30 feet outside the sideline, was the momentum killer for the ravens. They were only behind by two points at that time. They would have had the football past the 40 yardline to start their drive for a touchdown or even a fieldgoal. Either one would have put the ravens on top. The defense would have then been able to have held off the steelers, I believe. I mean, flacco did not play as good as he could have, but they were making a comeback until that stupid, stupid momentum-killing foul! That got in the head of flacco and other ravens players. It gave the steelers and their fans a huge boost in their hopes to stop the raven's drive. And ultimately, flacco's mental game was beat and threw a crazy pass that "slammed" the ravens to the ground for good!
I really believe that the ravens could have and probably would have won that game if it were not for that STUPID foul at the end there. And I'm not just saying that because I like the ravens. BTW, I hope the steelers do not think that arizona will be easy to beat. They look like a team of destiny even more so than the steelers.
Go Arizona!

That stupid personal foul, slamming the steeler player to the ground nearly 30 feet outside the sideline, was the momentum killer for the ravens. They were only behind by two points at that time. They would have had the football past the 40 yardline to start their drive for a touchdown or even a fieldgoal. Either one would have put the ravens on top. The defense would have then been able to have held off the steelers, I believe. I mean, flacco did not play as good as he could have, but they were making a comeback until that stupid, stupid momentum-killing foul! That got in the head of flacco and other ravens players. It gave the steelers and their fans a huge boost in their hopes to stop the raven's drive. And ultimately, flacco's mental game was beat and threw a crazy pass that "slammed" the ravens to the ground for good!
I really believe that the ravens could have and probably would have won that game if it were not for that STUPID foul at the end there. And I'm not just saying that because I like the ravens. BTW, I hope the steelers do not think that arizona will be easy to beat. They look like a team of destiny even more so than the steelers.
Go Arizona!

I know. I was on such a high when they return was done. When they came back to commercial, to see that "hilight" of the foul made me sick to my stomach. I thought we were on our way despite being out played by the steelers. I say a redux of the titans game. I think our good fortune caught up to us. Hats off to the steelers. They blew their fair share of chances. Dropped sure TD bomb, botched clock management at the end of the1st half. Their mistakes kept us in the game.

as i did this year, im going to pick the team that i think has the best chance to win. im 1-1 baby, and it has nothing to do with how i feel about baltimore.

some day you raven fans will learn that although you may hate us, we really dont think twice about you. :)well, that's the beauty of all this. we don't hate ravens haters such as yourself, but we want you to understand that we're the better team this year, and will be next year, and the year after that......lol.:D:D


personally, i wasn't bought up to hate people, teams, etc. but you can't tell me for a minute that you don't sit back & watch what the ravens do. that's bull.....

I know. I was on such a high when they return was done. When they came back to commercial, to see that "hilight" of the foul made me sick to my stomach. I thought we were on our way despite being out played by the steelers. I say a redux of the titans game. I think our good fortune caught up to us. Hats off to the steelers. They blew their fair share of chances. Dropped sure TD bomb, botched clock management at the end of the1st half. Their mistakes kept us in the game.the score was stuck at 13-7 for as long as i can remember in the 3rd quarter. we did absolutely nothing on our first 2 drives in the quarter, so we definitely had our chances.:ohno:

well, that's the beauty of all this. we don't hate ravens haters such as yourself, but we want you to understand that we're the better team this year, and will be next year, and the year after that......lol.:D:D


personally, i wasn't bought up to hate people, teams, etc. but you can't tell me for a minute that you don't sit back & watch what the ravens do. that's bull.....

the only times i watch the ravens are if the redskins are playing them or if they are in the playoffs, and to be honest when i do watch them i find it boring. Yes we all know that a strong defense and running the ball can be an effective strategy, but i would prefer more of an offensive gameplan.

The better team won last night. Nothing else to say.

^^Got that right. They came to play 60 min and we only came to play 55. I'm not upset though, just a tad disappointed. Extremely successful and exciting year... I'm very proud of my home team. To overcome all of the adversity, and make it as far as they did, is outstanding IMO. Very excited about next year and hope to see the majority of players return (as well as some from IR this year). Sorry to see Rex leave but he deserves a head coaching spot, I hope he is successful in the big apple (not enough to beat us though:)).

The better team won last night. Nothing else to say.

Can't argue with that.

In the previous two meetings, however, I thought that Baltimore played the better game, and it was unfortunate that they didn't win either time. As it became clear last night that the Ravens were being outplayed, I was hoping we'd end up on the winning side of the "better team loses" equation that had defined the series up until that point....and had that personal foul not happened, I think Baltimore would have won it. Without the personal foul, we would have only needed two first downs to get into field goal range.

Oh well, at least we have...the Orioles...to look...forward to.... ugh...

^^ :lol: :rofl:
Yeah! Go O's!!! :D

well that, as they say, is that. I tuned in just in time to see that awesome hit on that guy. It was one of those hits you see and you go "Oooh! Now that was a hit!" At first I thought it was a dirty hit, but after the replay, I realized it was a good, clean hit. It was a brutal game! The steelers were really hitting hard!

The better team won last night. Nothing else to say.

They seemed flat and worn out, didn't they? Ed Reed was almost invisible, but I think the Steelers played to avoid him. The Ravens secondary was devastated...basically the 2nd string out there. But we did knock Hines Ward out of the game!! Wait til next year!!

The post season version of "two words"...

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo170/DELsoul99/1-21-09/work1-21-09006.jpg

That's pretty cool D.E.L!!

I think I'll give this whole prediction thing another shot. What the hell, right? Anyway, I'm going with the oddsmakers and I'll say the Pittsburgh Steelers will defeat the Arizona Cardinals, 24-17. The Steeler defense is just too overpowering, and the Cardinals are in disarray right now, too many players whining and complaining (ie Anquan Bolden and the other guy). Too many distractions.

^^i disagree. arizona hasn't made the playoffs since jake plummer was their quarterback back in '98, and before that, 1982, and before that, like 1946 or 1947. so clearly, this is a franchise that hasn't had much success at all. i think their time is due on febrauary 1. i'll take the cards in an upset....

I think I'll give this whole prediction thing another shot. What the hell, right? Anyway, I'm going with the oddsmakers and I'll say the Pittsburgh Steelers will defeat the Arizona Cardinals, 24-17. The Steeler defense is just too overpowering, and the Cardinals are in disarray right now, too many players whining and complaining (ie Anquan Bolden and the other guy). Too many distractions.

It'll be interesting to see how Warner handles Pittsburgh's defense. He's such a unique player that it's hard to say whether he'll dismantle them or be completely crushed by them. I'm rooting for Pittsburgh, but if Kurt Warner puts on a good show, I'll be happy to see the Cardinals cut down the Steelers.

Plus, this game will likely determine whether Warner will be a Hall of Famer. He wins, he's in. He loses, probably won't make it.

pitt-27 ariz-23



that was one HELL of a game. i have alot more respect for the cardinals now. when fitzgerald took it to the house with 2;30 left, i thought he seal the deal, but the steelers hung in there & showed alot of resilience.

Congrats to the steelers.

didn't even watch it yesterday. anyway I'm going to say it's good pitt won. the city can seem down on its luck to some?
Plus the opponent was sprawled, boring phoenix.

didn't even watch it yesterday. anyway I'm going to say it's good pitt won. the city can seem down on its luck to some?
Plus the opponent was sprawled, boring phoenix.

Yes. As far as cities go, the better city won. Unfortunately, most Steelers fans have probably never set foot in Pittsburgh.

What a great game, though.

Didn't want the steelers to win..they got lucky with that last touchdown...If only 1 foot stepped into the territory..the Cardinals would've won. Lucky Bastards.But what can I say..the Steelers won and nothings going to change that

I hope the Ravens sign Ray Lewis before time runs out and he signs with either, Dallas or NY Jets. :ohno:
I'd like to see him in a Ravens uniform the rest of his career.

Agreed, he is the heart and soul of the team, our football Ripken.

I don't think Lewis should take a hometown discount. If he would have played at a lower level than he did, then yeah, he should consider taking one. But he played at an outstanding level. He is old, yeah, but he still plays the game hard and don't forget the presence in the locker room. I hope we can re-sign Scott, Lewis, Suggs and Leonhard, if that's the case, we would be better than last year, and that should have everyone preoccupied, oh yeah.

I don't want to see Lewis going to Dallas, oh no ! :ohno:

^^ Tell me about it!!!! :ohno: :no: That would not be good at all.

I'd hate for it to come to that, but they might have to put the franchise tag on him. But a disgruntled Lewis could be a major negative in the locker room. Hopefully Ozzie Newsome will be able to read him and make the decision that is in the best interest of the team, in spite of the fan fallout.

i just want the ravens to flat-out sign ray instead of throwin' the frachise tag on him. i've never been a huge fan of the whole "franchise tage" label. it makes players bitter and resentful and creates bruised feelings between that player & his team. a perfect example is chris mcallister. you guys saw how bad hestarted to play when we threw the franchise label on him back in '04.

i don't blame ray for not wanting to take less since we see evidence on the field that he doesn't play less. but if we don't sign him, we must atleast sign the other players that truly made an impact this year (suggs, scott, leonhard).

We have to keep Ray in purple.

^^yep! that's what it comes down to.

I wouldn't mind losing Scott if it meant keeping Lewis, Suggs and Leonhard (sp?). Nothing against Scott, he's a great player, but I think the other 3 stood out more this year and IMO losing Scott would hurt less.

Congratulations to Bruce Smith, the NFL's all time sack leader, for being selected into the Hall of fame! Great to have another Washington Redskin in there! :D

Yes, congrats, Bruce. :)

i know bills fans are gonna' miss him. BBBBBRRRRRRUUUUUUCCCCCEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!:okay:

I guess Bruce has some time to decide whether he'll go in as a Washington Redskin or a Buffalo Bill. You never know right? Even Marcus Allen went in as a Kansas City Chief, even though he spent most of his career with the Raiders

^^he's been with the bills through not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 super bowls....4 straight super bowl losses at that! that's alot of achievement and struggle at the same time, those are memories. he was with the bills through the good times, bad times, and most of all, 14 years (1985-1999). he was with the redskins only 4 (2000-2003). no offense, but i think his roots are in buffalo......hands down.

^^ Yeah, you're right, Masons! :yes: I agree! :)

Stranger things have happened...remember when he broke the all-time sack record, it was a happy day at Fedex field

I guess Bruce has some time to decide whether he'll go in as a Washington Redskin or a Buffalo Bill. You never know right? Even Marcus Allen went in as a Kansas City Chief, even though he spent most of his career with the Raiders

You know...technically you dont go as a member of any team...

Less than 2 weeks to free agency ... Here is a list of all the Raven's soon-to-be free agents:

Kyle Boller QB
Jason Brown C
Mark Clayton WR
Terrance Copper WR
P.J. Daniels RB
Dwan Edwards DT
Corey Ivy CB
Sam Koch P
Dawan Landry S
Jim Leonhard S
Ray Lewis LB
Derrick Martin CB
Robert McCune LB
Brandon McKinney DT
Lorenzo Neal FB
Evan Oglesby CB
Bart Scott LB
Matt Stover PK
Terrell Suggs LB
Quinn Sypniewski TE
Daniel Wilcox TE
Demetrius Williams WR

Less than 2 weeks to free agency ... Here is a list of all the Raven's soon-to-be free agents:

Kyle Boller QB
Jason Brown C
Mark Clayton WR
Terrance Copper WR
P.J. Daniels RB
Dwan Edwards DT
Corey Ivy CB
Sam Koch P
Dawan Landry S
Jim Leonhard S
Ray Lewis LB
Derrick Martin CB
Robert McCune LB
Brandon McKinney DT
Lorenzo Neal FB
Evan Oglesby CB
Bart Scott LB
Matt Stover PK
Terrell Suggs LB
Quinn Sypniewski TE
Daniel Wilcox TE
Demetrius Williams WR

Sign: Ray Lewis, Jim Leonhard, Demetrius Williams, Bart Scott, Terrell Suggs, Matt Stover, Sam Koch, Mark Clayton, Corey Ivy, Brandon McKinney, Lorenzo Neal and Daniel Wilcox. :D
That's my list. :)

^^i dunno' about corey ivy. he's a little shaky in the secondary...:(

it's past 12:01 A.M. & we still haven't signed ray lewis.....:(


.....or bart scott.

Redskins and Haynesworth come to 100 million dollar agreement. They also signed hall to 54 million dollar deal.

According to "rumors" and "sources", it looks like Bart's going to the Jets and Ray doesn't want to return to the team. Apparently, the Raven's contract negotiation process has left him with a bad taste and a close friend of his has said that he would rather retire than come back:ohno:. Who knows what will come out of these rumors, at least with Ray, but Bart going to the Jets seems like it's close to official. Jason Brown is in talks with St. Louis Rams.

Well, it seems like Scott has agreed to a 5 year/$40mil deal with the Jets.

To heck with him.
Here's some good news:

Ravens sign ex-Terp Foxworth to four-year deal
Team lands speedy CB with $27.2M contract on first day of free agency
By Jamison Hensley | jamison.hensley@baltsun.com
3:15 PM EST, February 27, 2009

With his family seated before him, Domonique Foxworth was welcomed home as the newest member of the Ravens.

Foxworth, who played at Catonsville's Western Tech and the University of Maryland, signed a four-year deal worth $27.2 million, including $16.5 million guaranteed.

"I've dreamed of playing here," Foxworth said at today's news conference.

Foxworth, who wore a gray suit and a purple tie, had his father, mother, grandmother, older brother and girlfriend sitting in the front row of the team auditorium.

"When the Ravens got here [in 1996], automatically we gravitated to them, just like most of the city has because they are a hard-nosed, blue-collar team just like this city is," he said. "To finally be able to come back and be apart of it is great."

A part-time starter throughout his four-year NFL career, Foxworth lacks ideal size (5 feet 11, 180 pounds) but makes up for it with exceptional speed. Considering the size of Foxworth's contract, the Ravens likely project him to start alongside Fabian Washington.

The addition of Foxworth clouds the future of Samari Rolle. There was speculation last week that the Ravens were shopping Rolle, 32, who is scheduled to make $4.1 million this season.

"You can look at it as Domonique has replaced Chris [McAlister]," general manager Ozzie Newsome said. "[The staff] has talked about 'have as many corners as you can.' I think they all find their way on the field at some point."

A third-round pick by the Denver Broncos in 2005, Foxworth has played in 60 games but started only 28 of them. He has four career interceptions.

After three seasons with the Broncos, he was traded to the Atlanta Falcons before last season for a seventh-round pick and started a career-high 10 games for Atlanta.

"He's a top-flight corner and a top-flight corner in the Ravens mold," coach John Harbaugh said.

Newsome declined to answer any questions regarding free agency.

Notes: Backup defensive end Marques Douglas was cut by the Ravens ... The Ravens have placed a second-round tender on punter Sam Koch, a restricted free agent. The team will tender Koch a one-year, $1.5 million contract and would receive a second-round pick as compensation if he signs elsewhere. ... Three other restricted free agents (safety Dawan Landry, receiver Demetrius Williams and tight end Quinn Sypniewski) received low tenders. The Ravens will tender them one-year, $1 million deals and would receive a draft pick from the round the player was drafted as compensation. ... The Ravens didn't make qualifying offers to running back P.J. Daniels, tight end Scott Kuhn, wide receiver Marcus Maxwell, linebacker Robert McCune and cornerback Evan Oglesby, making them all free agents. ... Cornerback Derrick Martin signed a one-year deal worth the veteran minimum.

Somehow I get the feeling that the Ravens are going to OVERpay for Lewis ...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3941101

in this day in age in the nfl, what ever happened to loyalty? signing with a team shouldn't always be all about the money. peyton manning gave up nearly 1/2 of his salary just so the colts could sign some key players. the year after, they won the super bowl. why can't other teams have this kinda' dedication?

It's a business world , it's all about the money. Soccer, baseball, football ... no longer sports but very profitable businesses ( for the most part ) instead.

According to "rumors" and "sources", it looks like Bart's going to the Jets and Ray doesn't want to return to the team. Apparently, the Raven's contract negotiation process has left him with a bad taste and a close friend of his has said that he would rather retire than come back:ohno:. Who knows what will come out of these rumors, at least with Ray, but Bart going to the Jets seems like it's close to official. Jason Brown is in talks with St. Louis Rams.

I guess there's not enough money on the table to suit him and he's feeling disrespected. If the rumors are his true feelings I say let him go. Might be time to cut ties anyway. That way Harbaugh will have complete control of the locker room.

^^i think harbaugh had that control last season. they respected him, and they won for him.

^^ I agree. Harbaugh did a great job. And if Ray doesn't want to be a Raven, why would we want him to continue with the Ravens? His best years are gone anyway. I say bring on the new blood. Now, if he was a person that was "loyal" to the team, then I say sign him up until he retires. And give him a respectable salary. I mean, the Ravens have been a great team to play on. The entire organization has been great to the players. It's not the biggest, most popular franchise, but it's one of the best none the less.

^^last year, i remember one of the members on the monday night football crew saying that we're the most exciting team to watch in the nfl, & i would have to agree.

last year was a hell of a year for us. between ed reed returning an interception 108 yards, joe flacco taking us to the afc championship (as a rookie), ray lewis knocking someone's helmet off, the trick-plays, and the reverses, i was excited with the product we had on the field to say the least.

too bad brian billick wasn't willing to be this creative.

It's a business world , it's all about the money. Soccer, baseball, football ... no longer sports but very profitable businesses ( for the most part ) instead.i hear what you're saying, and i agree with most of it. but let's be honest....these guys make so much money, it's probably growing out their a$$e$.....lol. most of them aren't gonna' live long enough to spend it all anyway.


now, i remember ray lewis making this statement about possibly resigning with the ravens:

"i certainly don't play less on the field, so why should i accept less?".




his statement may indeed be true, but loyalty is above anything else.

It's a business world , it's all about the money.this is one statement i cannot agree with.





for those of you who have seen the movie Jerry Maguire, tom cruise (the agent) summed up why cuba gooding (the player) wasn't getting the money he thought he deserved. here's what he said:


"Alright. Here's why you don't have your ten million dollars yet. You are a paycheck player. You play with your head. Not your heart. In your personal life? Heart. But when you get on the field -- you're a businessman. It's wide-angle lenses and who fucked you over and who owes you for it. That's not what inspires people."



the bottom line is this......if ray lewis is the "loyal" player with "heart" that i believe he is, he'll be wearing a purple uniform come next year. if not, adios!

this is one statement i cannot agree with.





for those of you who have seen the movie Jerry Maguire, tom cruise (the agent) summed up why cuba gooding (the player) wasn't getting the money he thought he deserved. here's what he said:


"Alright. Here's why you don't have your ten million dollars yet. You are a paycheck player. You play with your head. Not your heart. In your personal life? Heart. But when you get on the field -- you're a businessman. It's wide-angle lenses and who fucked you over and who owes you for it. That's not what inspires people."



the bottom line is this......if ray lewis is the "loyal" player with "heart" that i believe he is, he'll be wearing a purple uniform come next year. if not, adios!

I dont think I could disagree with you more.

This will likely be Ray's last contract. Hes in the same boat as Kurt Warner where he wants to make sure that he will be fine and dandy after he retires and will want to get as much money as he can. Its just how it is. Maybe he wants to go somewhere where he has a better chance to win a championship. You arent being very loyal to your beloved #52. He played great for you, doesnt he deserve some respect? Hes putting his own interests first and theres nothing wrong with that. If he leaves, he leaves. There really should be no complaints, hes attained everything that he can in Baltimore. If he goes into the Hall, it will likely be as a Raven (unofficially).

^^go somewhere where he thinks he has a better chance to win a championship? and you consider the jets or cowboys the better alternative? gimme' a break.....lol. we now have a rookie quarterback who has a hell of an arm and good accuracy. the jets don't have a legitimate QB threat and the cowboys have enough drama within their locker room to drive any coach nuts. you have T.O. bitching about not getting enough catches, and you have tony romo...."mister inconsistent" himself.

we won the super bowl in the 2000 season. despite how good that team was (well defensively, anyway), i consider the team we have now 5 times better.....maybe not as good defensively, but they're in the top 3.

Really, only the most naive of football fans still believe that there is actually team loyalty in the NFL. It's all about the benjamins nowadays baby. The likes of Darrell Green or Art Monk or John Elway who played for one team their whole careers are long gone.

Most players are all about the money, but it has nothing to do with being naive. It all depends on the player.

the bottom line is this......if ray lewis is the "loyal" player with "heart" that i believe he is, he'll be wearing a purple uniform come next year. if not, adios!Did you say purple uniform? Ray is going to the Minnesota Vikings? Just kidding. LOL. You set yourself up for that one.

:lol:

There goes Leonhard ...

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcnorth/0-2-179/Leonhard-joins-Jets--too.html

^^yeah, another one bites the dust. rex ryan's loading up on ammunition up there in the big apple.:ohno:

Did you say purple uniform? Ray is going to the Minnesota Vikings? Just kidding. LOL. You set yourself up for that one.

:lol:^^:D:applause:

RAY'S STAYING!!! just saw it on channel 13. they didn't say what the principals of the contract would be.

whew, i knew you wouldn't let me down, ray!:okay:

^^ 3yrs/$22mil. I'm glad we kept him.

come on, it's not like Ray Lewis was actually going anywhere. He's old and in the twilight of his career. If he moved to another team, he'd have to get used to new personell, new systems etc. In Baltimore he's worshipped like a god. Ray Lewis ain't stupid, he's staying in Baltimore.

Ravens not expected to pursue Owens
Star wide receiver isn't considered good fit, team source says
By Jamison Hensley | jamison.hensley@baltsun.com
4:05 PM EST, March 5, 2009
The Ravens aren't expected to show any interest in wide receiver Terrell Owens, a team source said.

Owens, 35, who was officially released by the Dallas Cowboys today, isn't considered a good fit in the Ravens' "team-first" philosophy, the source added.

It's likely the Ravens still have bitter feelings toward Owens.

In March 2004, after a paperwork error prevented Owens from becoming an unrestricted free agent, the Ravens traded a second-round pick to San Francisco for him. But Owens refused to report for a physical to complete the deal and got the union to file a grievance on his behalf in an attempt to go to Philadelphia.

During today's news conference introducing center Matt Birk, Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome said he couldn't comment on Owens because the release hadn't officially been announced.

^^ I'm glad. He is a selfish douchebag !

^^...and calling him that is actually an understatement. a truly sad individual. we don't need that kinda' disruption on our team.

if he was to come here, i could see ray lewis or john harbaugh getting in his ass about his attitude. it just wouldn't be a good fit.

agreed. He's selfish. a cry-baby. spoiled. Not a true team player. I think he has proven that to every team he has been on. and really, it's a very big shame because he is a great wide receiver.

^^ Would you tell him that, in person ? :D

It's ok, he is the Bills' problem now.

that's why buffalo will always be losers

^^yeah, they can have him. i'm surprised any team took a risk on him.

^^ and for that kind of salary. I would have given him $4mil.

^^ Would you tell him that, in person ? :D

It's ok, he is the Bills' problem now.

If I would ever have the chance to be with him long enough to talk awhile, and if the subject came up, yeah, I would. Truth is truth. It may make him mad, but so what. Besides, if he would ever assalt me because I said it to him, I would not hit back. I'd go get a good lawyer and get a good chunk of his, "salary". ;) :lol: :hilarious
How about you? :nuts:

that's why buffalo will always be losers

Yeah, I don't have anything personal against Buffalo or anything, but, I think he will be mad up there, too. I'm very interested in seeing what he'll do there. I hate it for the Bills. But who knows? We could be wrong. :dunno:

If I would ever have the chance to be with him long enough to talk awhile, and if the subject came up, yeah, I would. Truth is truth. It may make him mad, but so what. Besides, if he would ever assalt me because I said it to him, I would not hit back. I'd go get a good lawyer and get a good chunk of his, "salary". ;) :lol: :hilarious
How about you? :nuts:

I would, too. I wouldn't wait for the subject to come up , as soon as I see him. If he hits me , well , I call Ray Ray ! Haha. Nah, if I could hit him back , I would if not then depnding on the damages I'd sue. Haha, the things you make me say.

Yeah. He'd hit me once and I'd be sure to hit the ground twitching! :lol: And yell, "Sue!" "Sue!" :hilarious

hell, for the 7 years/$10 million he's about to get, he can hit me too......lol. atleast he can't say he doesn't have the money to pay me for it.

That's what I'm talking about. ;) :okay:

hell, for the 7 years/$10 million he's about ot get, he can hit me too......lol. atleast he can't say he doesn't have the money to pay me for it.

T.O ? 7yrs/10 mil ?

^^naw. ray...

Yeah, I don't have anything personal against Buffalo or anything, but, I think he will be mad up there, too. I'm very interested in seeing what he'll do there. I hate it for the Bills. But who knows? We could be wrong. :dunno:

I was having similar thoughts. He already dissed Baltimore as not being good enough for him, and he winds up in Buffalo. Nothing against that city, but it's not Baltimore.

Yeah, I will eagerly await a game with Buffalo on the tele! :D

"200,000 fans behind me", thats the subject of the letter I recieved from the Redkins. They are offering season tickets to me starting @ 44.00 per seat.
any closet 'skins fans interested in going in on this with me you can p.m. me,
your name will remain silent...lol.

^^ LOL! Sorry, man! I'm a Raven's Fan!! :D
But thanks anyway! :lol:

Are you sure that's not one of those Nigerian pyramid scams?

"200,000 fans behind me", thats the subject of the letter I recieved from the Redkins. They are offering season tickets to me starting @ 44.00 per seat.
any closet 'skins fans interested in going in on this with me you can p.m. me,
your name will remain silent...lol.

$44 a seat?

Damn.

^^i couldn't. i wouldn't. i bleed purple/gold too much.:ohno:

3 prime time games for the Ravens this year. 2 MNF ( Cleveland and Green Bay, away of course :ohno: ) and 1 Sunday night game at home ( steelers, of course ).

Dallas got 6 national games ! Come on ...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/schedule?year=2009&season=2

1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD Qualcomm Stadium 4:15 PM Tickets CBS

3 Sep 27 CLE @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

4 Oct 04 BAL @ NE Gillette Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

6 Oct 18 BAL @ MIN Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN Paul Brown Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

10 Nov 16 BAL @ CLE Cleveland Browns Stadium 8:30 PM Tickets ESPN

11 Nov 22 IND @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

12 Nov 29 PIT @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 8:20 PM Tickets NBC

13 Dec 07 BAL @ GB Lambeau Field 8:30 PM Tickets ESPN

14 Dec 13 DET @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets FOX

15 Dec 20 CHI @ BAL M&T Bank Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets FOX

16 Dec 27 BAL @ PIT Heinz Field 1:00 PM Tickets CBS

17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 4:15 PM Tickets CBS

Cardinals wide receiver Anquan Boldin
Summary: The tension between Boldin and Cardinals management has come to a head. The Cardinals now say they are actively listening to trade offers for Boldin, who is unhappy with his contract situation.

Likely compensation: A first- and mid-round pick. Boldin is a more consistent player than Edwards, but is also 2½ years older. Boldin, who turns 29 in October, also has missed an entire season's worth of games with injuries since 2004.

Trade odds: Very good. Even a team with such stubborn, frugal management can see that keeping a player as disgruntled as Boldin could disrupt locker-room chemistry. Baltimore, which has expressed interest, would be an ideal fit. The Ravens need to give quarterback Joe Flacco some better receiving help than 35-year-old Derrick Mason and ho-hum starter Mark Clayton. The Giants, Philadelphia and New York Jets are other possibilities

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9477606/As-draft-looms,-watch-out-for-these-trades?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5

That would be huge for the Ravens!!

^^a week ago, i thought he would've been the ideal fit, but now, i'm not so sure. the last thing we need is some guy bitchin' about he's not getting enough catches.

Still, he's a great receiver. And great name recognition. I think he would do great in Baltimore. Only thing that I concerned about is who would we have to give up with that #1 draft pick?

^^ I heard it was McGahee and 1st round pick. I mean the guys is getting top 5 RB money, he is not one. If the deal is 1st round and McGahee ... mmm ... ok, but they better give T-sizzle the contract he deserves, as well.

After falling a game short of a trip to the Super Bowl in the 2008 season, the Baltimore Ravens don’t expect the recession to block season ticket holders from renewing their plans.

The Ravens anticipate a 99.5 percent renewal rate for 2009 season tickets, said Baker Koppelman, vice president of ticket sales and operations.

“There’s no major red flags at this point,” he said.

The deadline to renew ticket plans is June 1.

M&T Bank Stadium’s first professional soccer match is proving to be a hot ticket.

Around 46,000 tickets to the July 24 game pitting Chelsea, of the English Premier League, against A.C. Milan, of Italy’s top division, have been sold, said Baker Koppelman, vice president of ticket sales and operations for the Baltimore Ravens.

The sales are “way beyond what we expected” through late April, Koppelman said. Tickets to the event range in price from $35 plus fees to $175 for a VIP package.

Koppelman said he expects the event to sell out the 71,000-seat stadium in Baltimore. The Ravens are the stadium’s primary tenant.

ESPN.com news services
The NFL is investigating whether the Washington Redskins committed tampering in their pursuit of Tennessee Titans defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, according to a Yahoo! Sports report.

The Titans, who registered charges with the league, were trying to re-sign Haynesworth after the 2008 season, but believe they were interfered with by the Redskins.

The Titans are accusing the Redskins of contacting Haynesworth and his agent, Chad Speck, before the free agency period started Feb. 27. Yahoo! Sports reported that according to two sources, the league already has talked with at least two people who are linked to the case.

The Redskins could lose a draft pick if the league proves that they committed tampering.

Haynesworth signed a seven-year, $100 million contract with the Redskins.

Both Speck and NFL spokesman Greg Aiello declined to

Are there any forumers who subscribe to espn.com as an insider? If so,
can you post the rest of this story please.

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Rumors: Chances Dan Snyder pursues Vick

^^michael vick in a redskins uniform. now that would be something!.....lol

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can you post the rest of this story please.

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Rumors: Chances Dan Snyder pursues Vick

Its just your standard "Snyder wants to make a splash" article...nothing you havent heard before.

rumor has it that brandon marshall wants out of denver. badly. ravens need a WR being that most of targets are injured.

i will admit.....derrick mason is a tough reciever (only 5'10), but this guy marshall would add alot to the WR position for us.

as far as brandon's legal troubles, i think between ray & harbaugh constantly staying on his ass, it would work out just fine for us.

what do you guys think?

Football is right around the corner!!!:banana:

^^ Yep, and I can't wait! :yes:

Steve McNair found dead
Ex-Ravens QB discovered shot to death with body of woman in Nashville apartment

Former Ravens quarterback Steve McNair, who won a division title and 15 games in two seasons in Baltimore, was found dead of multiple gunshot wounds in a Nashville condominium Saturday and the 20-year-old woman found dead with him was shot once in the head, police said. He was 36.

Nashville police spokesman Don Aaron identified the woman as Sahel Kazemi, who he called a "friend" of McNair's. Police said autopsies were planned for Sunday.

Police had no suspects in custody Saturday, but several visitors at the apartment complex were taken to headquarters for questioning "just to see what they know, what they may have seen," Aaron said.

Aaron said McNair's wife, Mechelle, is "very distraught" and that police do not believe she is involved.

McNair, the third overall pick by the Houston Oilers in the 1995 draft, spent 11 seasons with the franchise -- which moved to Tennessee two years later and eventually became the Titans -- before closing out a 13-year career with the Ravens in 2007. He took the Titans to the Super Bowl in the 1999 season, was a co-Most Valuable Player with Peyton Manning in 2003, and was selected to the Pro Bowl three times.

After being traded to the Ravens in 2006, McNair led the team to the AFC North title with a 13-3 record, but threw a critical interception on the goal line in a 15-6 loss to the Indianapolis Colts in the divisional playoff round.

On the big stage, he will be remembered for the fourth-quarter drive with Tennessee that came up a yard short in a dramatic 23-16 Super Bowl loss to the St. Louis Rams, and for playing winning football through a myriad of pains and injuries.

Reeling with the news, his former teammates in Baltimore and Nashville remembered him as a fierce competitor and a strong leader.

Ravens wide receiver Derrick Mason played with McNair in Nashville and in Baltimore.

"Steve was always willing to lend a hand to anyone who needed it," Mason said in a statement issued by the team. "I've known him for 13 years and he was the most selfless, happiest and friendliest person I have known. His family and my family are close, and it is a blow to us all. It is a devastating day. Steve will always have a place in my heart. My family and I are hurting for his family. Our thoughts and prayers are with them."

Cornerback Samari Rolle, who came to the Ravens a year before McNair, was also part of the core group of players who helped the Titans become an AFC power.

"I still can't even believe it," Rolle said. "To lose such a good friend and a good man so soon doesn't make sense.

"If you were going to draw a football player -- the physical part, the mental part, everything about being a professional -- he is your guy. I can't even wrap my arms around it. It is a sad, sad day. The world lost a great man today."

In 2006, a year after they went 6-10, the Ravens gave up a fourth-round draft pick for McNair, then 33, to solve an ongoing dilemma at quarterback. He replaced Kyle Boller and started all 16 games that season, winning 13. His costly interception against the Colts in the postseason signaled a change in fortune for the veteran quarterback, however.

He injured his groin in the 2007 season opener, had back and shoulder problems, and committed 11 turnovers while playing in only six games. In April 2008, before the first minicamp practice of the John Harbaugh coaching era, McNair caught all off guard by announcing his retirement.

Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome valued McNair's contribution to the team as well as his place in history.

"This is so, so sad," Newsome said in a statement. "We immediately think of his family, his [four] boys. They are all in our thoughts and prayers.

"What we admired most about Steve when we played against him was his competitive spirit, and we were lucky enough to have that with us for two years. He is one of the best players in the NFL over the last 20 years. ... He was a great player, one of the toughest of competitors and a tremendous teammate, who was a leader on the field and in the locker room, especially to the young players."

Speaking on ESPN, former Titans running back Eddie George said McNair "had ice running through his veins. He was so cool under pressure, so calm. He never raised his voice, never lost his composure."

Former Ravens center Mike Flynn called McNair one of the best teammates he ever played with.

"He's probably one of the top five teammates I've played with," Flynn said. "Obviously, everybody saw his ability, but behind closed doors, they couldn't see what a great guy he is. He was a great guy to play for and play with. It's real sad because he was one of the good guys I've met in 11 years of pro football. I'm stunned and just sad."

Another former Ravens center, Jason Brown, who signed with St. Louis this offseason, learned of McNair's death by a text message from Rams guard Jacob Bell. Both had played with McNair.

"It's a very sad day, it really is," Brown said. "And on a day when you're supposed to be with your family and celebrating Independence Day. You can't shy away from the fact that Steve was a talented human being, and for the two years that I was fortunate and blessed to have played with him in Baltimore, he definitely helped to mature my career by leaps and bounds. ... When he came in in 2006, we did something special that year, and I will never forget the poise that Steve brought to the team that year. My thoughts and prayers go to his family."

Titans owner Bud Adams said in a statement: "We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today. He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl."

McNair was known to frequent the condo where he was killed, but police spokeswoman Kristin Mumford said she didn't know if he was the owner.

McNair opened a restaurant near the Tennessee State University campus in June. By Saturday night, it was closed but had become a small memorial, where flowers, candles and notes had been placed outside.

A note attached to a small blue teddy bear read, "We will never forget you, Steve. Once a Titan, always a Titan."

:( That's so sad. McNair was a class act. I hope they find out who done this to them. :ohno:

^^very sad news for the ravens/titans organizations...

Sad, really sad. Has the police released the motive of the shooting, yet?

Not yet. What a sad moment this is.

I'm wondering if it was a murder/suiicide?

Let this be a lesson to all you married guys: DON'T CHEAT ON YOUR WIFE! I don't care how hot that piece of ass is, it's not worth it!

^^:yes::applause:

I'm wondering if it was a murder/suiicide?it was. just today, nashville police said that she was the one that purchased a gun 2 days before the shooting.

i respect what steve mcnair did on the field, and i'm sorry for the outcome of this, but let's look at the bigger picture here....

Let this be a lesson to all you married guys: DON'T CHEAT ON YOUR WIFE! I don't care how hot that piece of ass is, it's not worth it!

She was cute, though ... Extremely crazy but cute. It's still a tragedy, nonetheless :(

^^yep, very attractive. but it just goes to show ya' that a woman's looks & a woman's demeanor are 2 totally different aspects...

DCRTV hears that CBS Radio will make the official announcement today that guy talker WJFK will become "Sportsradio 106.7 The Fan" at 6 AM on Monday, 7/20. As DCRTV has told you, CBS suits are meeting with advertisers at noon today at the Verizon Center. As expected, the Junkies, now the Sports Junkies, will remain in morning drive. And, as we've reported, Mike Wise will be paired with Bill Rohland in middays, with Chad Dukes and Lavar Arrington doing afternoon drive. There will be a website at 1067thefandc.com. And, as we've reported, the Wizards will air on JFK this fall, with Dave Johnson and Glenn Consor calling the games. Plus, as we've hinted, JFK will be carrying Westwood One's NFL Primetime package of Thursday, Sunday, and Monday games, plus the playoffs and the Super Bowl. That package had aired on Redskins owner Dan Snyder's WTEM. We also get confirmation that longtime afternooner Mike O'Meara is a gonner. His show is in reruns this week. We hear that O'Meara will do a farewell segment, but not a full live show, on Friday, 7/17. More soon.....
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Mason retired. Anyone?

:gaah:

yeah, poor timing for this to happen to the ravens. but not entirely unexpected either.

^^ It was unexpected. The guy was requesting a new contract not too long ago. To me, that indicates that he still wanted to play the game. Now, I think getting Marvin Harrison to replace Derrick Mason makes a lot of sense and will restore things to the order in which they were 1 week ago. It would be like replacing A x A. I still hope Derrick Mason changes his mind but time, there isn't enough. Training camp opens soon.

Yeah, it's a loss to the team, for sure. There are players with more skill than Mason, but he showed a lot of heart and resilience last year. There aren't many players whom I'd rather have in the position than Mason. But if his heart isn't in it anymore, there's no telling if he'd paly that way again this year.

^^ It was unexpected. The guy was requesting a new contract not too long ago. To me, that indicates that he still wanted to play the game. Now, I think getting Marvin Harrison to replace Derrick Mason makes a lot of sense and will restore things to the order in which they were 1 week ago. It would be like replacing A x A. I still hope Derrick Mason changes his mind but time, there isn't enough. Training camp opens soon.


Harrison is 36 YO and coming off a leg injury and missed most of last season. Is this what we want to replace Mason with? Isn't there anyone else worth considering other than Boldin?

Ravens, Suggs reach six-year, $63M deal

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-terrell-suggs-715,0,2321574.story

How do you guys like the idea of using Reed and Smith as WR ? Smith more often than Reed.

ed reed? on offense? wouldn't work...

They practiced it last season. I don't know how serious they were about it but he is way too good at defense to risk an injury on offense.

^^i agree. where ever the ball is, he's there. i remember the eagles game when mcnabb got benched, and his replacement came in and threw that INT to reed that went the other way for 108 yards. ed is phenomenal...







"if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it"

quote originated in 1977 by Bert Lance (President Carter's Director of the Office of Management and Budget)

Um, "Are You Ready For Some Football"???

...looks like the Redskins weren't!!:lol::D

...looks like the Redskins weren't!!:lol::D

I would have to agree...:bash:

it's just the preseason. no reason to get alarmed in "burgundy & gold" land.....well, not yet anyway.

I would like to remind some people that the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason last year...

I would like to remind some people that the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason last year...Unbelievable. I never knew that! And they then went on to not win a single game in the regular season. Goes to show you that the preseason doesn't mean jack.

Unbelievable. I never knew that! And they then went on to not win a single game in the regular season. Goes to show you that the preseason doesn't mean jack.

Exactly.

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City in talks about Redskins stadium in DC
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WASHINGTON -- The District is again trying to lure an NFL team to the city.

For several seasons, the city has tried to convince the Landover Redskins to build a new stadium in D.C.

"We have let the team know that we are interested, and if there is a window of opportunity that presents itself, we're going to just jump right through it," Mayor Adrian Fenty said.

Recently, the city and Redskins owner Dan Snyder's people have been in intense, private talks about a move, News4's Tom Sherwood reported, which would give Washington its Skins back, more than a decade after the team left RFK Stadium in the rearview mirror. No one involved in the talks would comment.

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"I'm always looking for opportunities to get the Redskins back in Washington," said Ward 2 Councilman Jack Evans, who openly courts the team.

A new stadium would be built at the RFK site and would have about 110,000 seats and a dome, making the city a Super Bowl contender, even if the team isn't. The Redskins might also considering consolidating their operations at the location, moving its training facilities and hall of fame in from Virginia.

But in order to come home, the team has to get out of its FedEx Field lease with Prince George's County, which runs through 2027.

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I think its very unlikely that they move Redskins Park. Its in a pretty good location already.

Double post - sorry.

I would like to remind some people that the Lions went 4-0 in the preseason last year...

It's really less about the actual record that each team finishes with, but rather, how each teams' units fare. The Skins were beaten in every aspect of the game and it wasn't just the 4th and 5th stringers who were beaten. The starters all the way down to guys that may be bagging groceries in a couple weeks were overmatched by their counterparts on the Ravens sideline.

This screams of a lack of depth that you get when you don't draft properly, or when you trade all of your draft picks in the pursuit of free agents.

At any rate, don't concern yourself with W/L records. Instead, focus on how each facet of your team is doing. And, judging by the Skins' performance overall, I would definitely be concerned (if I was a Washington fan).

The Redskins have a very poor O line and lack some depth in the front seven. They need depth at RB for the long season, but I think the O line is the biggest problem they need to worry about. If that's they don't click, it's going to be a very tough season for the 'Skins.

Forget about that, what we should be concerned about are these rumors I keep hearing that Jessica Simpson is dating Redskins backup QB Colt Brennan. Don't get me wrong, I love Jessica Simpson, I think she's sexy as hell, but let's face it, when it comes to football, she's bad luck! Although I'm certainly grateful to her for royally screwing up the cowgirls last season by dating tony homo, but I wish she'd move on to another NFC east QB. Maybe Michael Vick or Eli Manning.

^^ She is fat! Fat chicks aren't sexy :D

I don't think she's fat anymore. Maybe she is, though I don't know. I wish she'd go back to her dukes of hazzard/pepsi commercial days.

And it wouldn't surprise me about Brennan. Not simply that he's a ladies man, which he is, but he is a flirty guy. He got kicked out of school for a rape accusation which is what it is, I don't know the details. But last year, at one of my company's happy hours, he actually came to our shuffleboard table and started flirting with one of my co-workers. She's probably a 7.5, cute, but not hot. I could definitely see him being a vulture and scooping up Simpson.

Jessica was never fat, okay? She's curvy and voluptuous, that's the way women are supposed to look, come on! Not very bright, but hey she's from Texas, what do you want, nobody's perfect.

If she's fat, then I LOVE fat! :drool: :lol:

i feel so bad ,my head feel painful.
give up

So far, the RAVENS to good. Go Ravens! :yes: :rock:

Thought you'd be a Carolina Panthers fan, Steve!!^^

^^naw! steve bleeds purple and gold forever!!! isn't that right, steve?:okay:

Here's Forbes's list for most valuable franshises in 2009. As expected, the Cowboys are #1 again.

#2 Washington Redskins

www.redskins.com

Team Value 1 $1.5 bil


Daniel Snyder
Washington Redskins
are owned by Daniel Snyder,
who bought them in 1999
for $750 mil.

Player-costs-to-win ratio 8 86
Coach Jim Zorn




Sport: Portion of franchise's value attributable to revenue shared among all teams. Market: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its city and market size. Stadium: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its stadium. Brand Management: Portion of franchise's value attributable to the management of its brand.

The skinny
Off the gridiron, owner Dan Snyder has done an impressive job with the Redskins. He has improved marketing and promotions, boosted revenue, poured a fortune into players and facilities and paid down much of the debt he took on when he bought the franchise and stadium in 1999. But his arrogance and penchant for control have not mixed well running the football operations. One high priced coach after another has flopped and the team has signed several big name players only to see them stumble around the field. Snyder needs to wise up like the Dolphins finally did and turn the football reigns over to someone like Bill Parcells.

Major corporate sponsors are Siemens (nyse: SI), E*Trade Bank, Sprint Nextel (nyse: S), Coca-Cola (nyse: KO), Bank of America (nyse: BAC). Naming rights sponsor is FedEx (nyse: FDX).

Historical Snapshot


Dates are when valuations were published; figures for most recently completed season.



1-Yr Value Chg. 5%
Ann. Value Chg. 2 8%
Debt/Value 3 16%
Revenue 4 $327 mil
Operating Income 5 $58.1 mil

Player Expenses 6 $154 mil
Gate Receipts 7 $84 mil

Facility Information
FedEx Field
Owner: team
Year Opened: 1997
Capacity: 91,665
Cost To Build: $251 mil
Concessionaire: Centerplate
Average Ticket Price: $79



Revenue and operating income are for 2007 season and net of revenue sharing and stadium debt service.
1Value of team based on current stadium deal (unless new stadium is pending) without deduction for debt (other than stadium debt).
2Current team value compared with latest transaction price.
3Includes stadium debt.
4Net of stadium revenues used for debt payments.
5Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization.
6Includes benefits and bonuses.
7Includes club seats.
8Compares the number of wins per player payroll relative to the rest of the NFL. Postseason wins count twice as much as regular season wins. A score of 120 means that the team achieved 20% more victories per dollar of payroll compared with the league average.
NA: Not applicable.
Team Logos Courtesy NFL.


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Team
Current Value ($mil)
1-Yr Value Change (%)
Debt/Value (%)
Revenue ($mil)
Operating Income ($mil)




#11 Baltimore Ravens

www.baltimoreravens.com

Team Value 1 $1.1 bil


Stephen Bisciotti
Baltimore Ravens
are owned by Stephen Bisciotti (Net Worth: $1.3 billion),
who bought them in 2000
for $600 mil.

Player-costs-to-win ratio 8 55
Coach John Harbaugh




Sport: Portion of franchise's value attributable to revenue shared among all teams. Market: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its city and market size. Stadium: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its stadium. Brand Management: Portion of franchise's value attributable to the management of its brand.

The skinny
The Ravens begin a new era this year with John Harbaugh in charge after nine years of Brian Billick on the sidelines. Billick's undoing was a 5 win, 11 loss season with a team that had playoff aspirations. The Ravens continue to be one of the NFL's strongest teams financially thanks to sky-high ticket prices and a prosperous lease at M&T Bank Stadium. Last year the team raised ticket prices 25%, which boosted gate receipts by $8 million. The Ravens also sold the naming rights to the club level of the stadium to Geppi Entertainment in a deal estimated to be worth $9 million over seven years.

^^naw! steve bleeds purple and gold forever!!! isn't that right, steve?:okay:

You bet I do!!! :rock: I'm Rockin' the PURPLE, man! :rock:

#11 Baltimore Ravens

www.baltimoreravens.com

Team Value 1 $1.1 bil


Stephen Bisciotti
Baltimore Ravens
are owned by Stephen Bisciotti (Net Worth: $1.3 billion),
who bought them in 2000
for $600 mil.

Player-costs-to-win ratio 8 55
Coach John Harbaugh


Sport: Portion of franchise's value attributable to revenue shared among all teams. Market: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its city and market size. Stadium: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its stadium. Brand Management: Portion of franchise's value attributable to the management of its brand.

The skinny
The Ravens begin a new era this year with John Harbaugh in charge after nine years of Brian Billick on the sidelines. Billick's undoing was a 5 win, 11 loss season with a team that had playoff aspirations. The Ravens continue to be one of the NFL's strongest teams financially thanks to sky-high ticket prices and a prosperous lease at M&T Bank Stadium. Last year the team raised ticket prices 25%, which boosted gate receipts by $8 million. The Ravens also sold the naming rights to the club level of the stadium to Geppi Entertainment in a deal estimated to be worth $9 million over seven years. i'll be damn......we back a spot on the forbes list. last year, we were #10. cowboys & redskins will always be #1 & 2.

4-0 this preseason, not bah,eh? Go Ravens!

According to Yahoo! Sports, Steve Bisciotti is ranked as the 10th best owner in the NFL.

10. Baltimore Ravens – Steve Bisciotti: As tempting as it is to downgrade Bisciotti, one of the world’s most enthusiastic Maryland hoops fans, because his Terrapins eliminated my Golden Bears in last spring’s NCAA tournament (we’re gunning for revenge at California Memorial Stadium this Saturday), the man is doing a tremendous job. After replacing coach Brian Billick with a decidedly non-glitzy successor, John Harbaugh, Bisciotti watched his reenergized team reach the AFC championship game last season. He has a good track record of hiring impressive front-office executives, including team president Dick Cass, and he’s doing what he can to compete for revenues in a challenging environment. With the nearby Redskins sucking up sponsorship dollars, Bisciotti isn’t dealing from strength but, says one admiring owner of another team, “he’s got all the right stuff. You can see his perspective – he’s sitting right there next to Washington – and he wants to make it a free-for-all where they take [all the revenues generated] within a 150-to-200-mile radius and split it.” I can’t see Bisciotti pulling that off, but he has definitely turned the Ravens into legitimate players, on and off the field.

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4-0 this preseason, not bah,eh? Go Ravens!Not bad, but like someone said a couple of pages back, the Detroit Lions also went 4-0 last season. But time will tell exactly how good we are.

Some news brewing for the Ravens: http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-tyree0908,0,2684697.story

^^i hear david tyree's a quality reciever. i think he'd be a good fit here...

GO, RAVENS!!!!!!

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: :rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock::rock: :yes:

1 and 0!

Let's go, Baltimore! Keep up the winning!!!! :master: :yes:
:rock::banana::rock::banana::rock::banana::rock::banana::rock::banana::rock:

:)

^^it wasn't pretty, but we got the W!!

you got that right. :nuts:

^^it wasn't pretty, but we got the W!!

Brian Billick the offensive genius comes in and our offense sucks.. Harbaugh comes in as the special teams genius and guess who is stinkin it up.. mad irony there :bash:

The Bad...

I'd give a pass on the field goal.. it looked good all the way till the end and the kicker is young, so I'm guessing he'll learn from that. (Why not bring in Matt Stover as a coach/consultant?)

But there is no excuse for Carr's performance. I hate it when I see a returner moving backwards, almost as much as i hate seeing a "prevent" defense. And keep in mind that his fair catch call at the 9 with no one around him for miles set up the blocked punt.

Derrick Mason dropped three passes.. while yes, two of them would have been difficult for anyone else, they were passes Derrick Mason usually catches. I have no idea what is up with that but I'm hoping its a fluke.. On the upside though I loved his comments on Keyshawn Johnson and Chris Carter, who I think are two of the worst analysts on TV.

Before everyone goes wacko for flacco, Id say he could have had 4 interceptions if KC's DB's could catch. I counted at least 3 balls bounce off of DB's hands or chests.

We didn't get hardly any pressure on the quarterback.


The Good...

I was impressed with our ability to stop the run. Our defense was great overall. We didn't get any takeaways, but until the special teams killed the momentum, our defense was dominating.

The offensive line kicked ass. It's hard to appreciate this one fully though being that KC had the fewest sacks last year in the league. Either way there was plenty of pass protection and run blocking. Equally impressive was the lack of false start penalties. Oher seems like another great pick and Gaither has really matured.

Heap is back.

Clayton is alive.

Ray Rice is running fast and SMART.

The playbook is open.

Air attack? Check!
Running attack? 3 headed monster! check!
Special teams? Needs work but I'm not too worried.
Defense? As usual, check!

Go Raven's ! :okay:

sunday @ 4pm, it's off to sunny san diego to face the bolts!

I can't wait! :yes:

^^correction, the bolts, not the bolts. forgot they have new uniforms now...

^^ Is that permanent? :?

with the chargers, it probably is. alot of teams are bringing back their old uniforms (giants, jets)

What if the ravens wore ther classic uniforms when they play the Cleveland Browns? It would be the same uniform as the Browns!! :D

What if the ravens wore ther classic uniforms when they play the Cleveland Browns? It would be the same uniform as the Browns!! :D

No, actually it would be the Colts uniform....:nuts: