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JayT
July 23rd, 2003, 08:56 AM
Airport rail passenger numbers increase
Saturday, 19 July 2003

Brisbane's airport rail service claims more people are using the link than ever before, even though current air travel patronage is still down.

Just over a year ago the Queensland Government aired concerns about private company Airtrain's financial viability.

But general manager Martin Earp says Airtrain is now avoiding the impact of SARS, international conflicts and the collapse of Ansett unlike most commercial carriers.

He is confident the service's 99 per cent punctuality record will also be maintained.

"It's been a tough two years for the aviation industry," he said.

"The airport is probably about 10 per cent down at present, as what it was a year ago but Airtrain is moving forward."
http://www.abc.net.au/brisbane/news/200307/s905719.htm
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Emirates will start daily operations between Brisbane and Dubai in October and will also start daily operations between Brisbane and Auckland.

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Airlines discuss Queensland route
Bloomberg Monday, July 21, 2003
BEIJING Chinese airlines are in talks to start direct flights to the northeastern Australian state of Queensland following an air-services agreement signed in Beijing this month, Merri Rose, the Queensland tourism minister, said over the weekend.
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China Southern Airlines and China Eastern Airlines may both start up flights to the state capital of Brisbane, said David Smith, a spokesman for the minister. Queensland has no direct services from mainland China.

BEIJING Chinese airlines are in talks to start direct flights to the northeastern Australian state of Queensland following an air-services agreement signed in Beijing this month, Merri Rose, the Queensland tourism minister, said over the weekend.
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China Southern Airlines and China Eastern Airlines may both start up flights to the state capital of Brisbane, said David Smith, a spokesman for the minister. Queensland has no direct services from mainland China.
http://www.iht.com/articles/103479.html
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Virgin Atlantic plans to fly here
July 16 2003
By Maria Hawthorne
London


Virgin Atlantic could be flying daily to Australia from London by Christmas, Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson said yesterday.

He said he would appoint a team to work on developing an Australian route and hoped to have the new service running by the end of the year.

Sir Richard was speaking after a meeting with Australian Tourism Minister Joe Hockey.

"The minister on his trip to England has been twisting our arms trying to get us to fly Virgin Atlantic to Australia as soon as possible," Sir Richard said.

"As a result, we're going to have a team of people working on it. Hopefully, if we can get everything sorted out, maybe by Christmas or early in the New Year, we'll see Virgin Atlantic flying either to Sydney, Brisbane or Melbourne, or even two or three of those cities," he said.

Sir Richard said the kangaroo route needed competition to shake up British Airways and Qantas, which he said were operating a duopoly.

And he said the inaugural flight could be on the Concorde if he wins his battle with British Airways over control of the ageing supersonic aircraft fleet, due to be retired this October.

"If we can get in there and offer a better-quality product with lower fares, hopefully more people will go to Australia and fly Virgin Blue."

Mr Hockey said the decision was a huge step forward for the Australian tourism industry.

- AAP
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/16/1058035018216.html
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Royal Brunei to launch Brisbane-Auckland services

Royal Brunei Airlines is to operate four services weekly to Auckland from Brisbane beginning on October 27

The carrier will use a 200-seat B767 aircraft on the route, configured in three classes: first, business and economy.

Sales and marketing executive Russell Ryan said the “unique hub of Brunei Darussalam, and the easy access to South-East Asia it offers New Zealanders, will differentiate us from other carriers on the trans-Tasman route”.

He said the carrier would also offer transit for travellers from Auckland to London/Europe without having to change carriers.

2 July 2003
http://www.travelbiz.com.au/articles/b3/0c017eb3.asp
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jt

chrisaus
July 23rd, 2003, 08:59 AM
wasn't nobody using the rail b4 anyway, might have gone from 2 to 3 people a day:D

JayT
August 1st, 2003, 11:23 AM
According to the City News China Airlines will start a twice weekly service to Brisbane in Septemper. It also mentioned 8 other new international airlines joining it.
jt

aussie man
August 2nd, 2003, 01:38 AM
wow...thats so great. I'm really happy for you JayT!!!

barneybuck
August 2nd, 2003, 08:09 AM
Something interesting as well!
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,6849425%255E664,00.html

Emirates takes on Qantas
By GEOFF EASDOWN
02aug03

EMIRATES Airlines struck a new blow yesterday for increased access to Australian skies and less government protection for Qantas.

The world's fastest-growing airline argued that Qantas should compete on more profitable overseas routes rather than press for government protection against foreign carriers.
Emirates Group chairman Maurice Flanagan told the Herald Sun both carriers should fly the Australia-Dubai route where open skies are building a flourishing trading hub for 100 international airlines.

He said Qantas was losing access to lucrative earnings by not flying to Dubai, where "any of the world's airlines can come and land 24 hours a day".

"Qantas is welcome to fly to Dubai where people can connect to all the points the airline does not serve at the moment," Mr Flanagan said.


The Howard Government recently acquiesced to a Qantas call to restrict Emirates plans to expand its services to and from Australia.

The airline wanted to operate a second daily flight from Sydney and extra services out of Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth.

But federal Transport Minister John Anderson ruled against the proposed additional Sydney flights.

He also told Emirates it must stagger the introduction of Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth services, a move which last night drew fire from Melbourne Airport chief executive Chris Barlow who described the decision as "disappointing when tourism was recovering".

"I hope the Government sees Emirates' application as part of tourism recovery, not a threat to existing airlines," Mr Barlow said.

But Emirates' Mr Flanagan was more forthcoming, dismissing past Qantas claims that Emirates was profitable because it was heavily protected by both its owners, the oil rich El Maktoum family and the United Emirates Government.

Emirates Airlines was a rigorously managed family business begun in 1985 with just $US10 million ($A15.5 million) capital, he said.

"Managers were told to take the money and go away, and start an airline and not ask for further handouts," he said.

Mr Flanagan said the carrier's success flowed from careful recruitment, avoiding waste and tight management. "There is no weak board with useless non-executive directors . . . Decisions are taken very quickly," he said.

"In the middle of all of this is Dubai itself, which is a most dynamic, booming city state.

"Tourism is booming and more and more businesses are locating themselves there.

"Some 6.5 million passengers a year pass through Dubai, but it will be over 50 million by 2015 and the airline has to keep pace with that."

Emirates presently operates 46 aircraft, none more than five years old and recently ordered 41 new aircraft from Airbus and 26 from Boeing.

The carrier plans to fly 29 million passengers and own 120 aircraft by 2010.

Of his sparring with Qantas chief Geoff Dixon, Mr Flanagan said he personally sent Mr Dixon an audited copy each year of Emirates annual report proving that the carrier received no government protection.

He had also hoped to call on his rival while passing through Sydney.

"When Geoff talks about things not being fair because Sheik Ahmed (Emirates chairman) is in charge of this and in charge of that including civil aviation . . . Geoff wouldn't do what Sheik Ahmed does and leave the skies completely open where anybody can come. He refuses to have the airline subsidised in anyway.

"So I don't know quite why Geoff bothers about us in so many ways."

Mr Flanagan was in Melbourne for the launch today of the first daily direct Emirates flights from Sydney and Melbourne to New Zealand.

JayT
August 6th, 2003, 04:03 AM
Can someone put this in the new transportation section please.

Thanks.
jt

JayT
August 7th, 2003, 04:18 AM
Taiwan carrier to launch Sydney and Brisbane services

China Airlines will launch twice-weekly Taipei-Brisbane flights from September 15, making the Queensland capital the second Australian city serviced by the airline.

The Taiwanese carrier will launch four weekly flights to Sydney from August 18.

The airline will use Airbus 340-300 wide body jets on the Brisbane route, with flights departing CKS International Airport every Monday and Thursday at 10.30pm, and arriving in Brisbane at 9:05am the following morning. The return flights will depart Brisbane at 12:05pm, and arrive in Taipei at 6.50pm on the same day.

China Airlines said Australia was a popular destination for Taiwanese tourists, and the carrier would be working with travel agents to create a variety of tour packages to the country.

The carrier is the leading provider of non-stop services between Taiwan and Australia and is represented in Australia by World Aviation Systems in Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.

6 August 2003

JayT
August 7th, 2003, 04:23 AM
Virgin Blue starts SMS check-in
Kelly Mills
August 7, 2003

VIRGIN Blue is planning to launch an SMS service which sends a barcode containing reservation details to a customer's mobile phone which would be scanned at check-in.

Customers will also be able to receive their itinerary via SMS and by Christmas, using a GPRS or 3G-enabled phone, make changes to their reservation.

Speaking at the launch of Virgin Blue's second Blue Room airport lounge in Sydney yesterday, chief executive Brett Godfrey said since early July, when customers were first able to change bookings via the internet, more than one-third of booking changes have been made online.

Mr Godfrey said internet bookings accounted for 92 per cent of all bookings, up from 22 per cent during the company's first month of operation in October 2000.

Virgin Blue's head of information technology, Nick Brant, said the SMS service, which was trialled last week, would go live shortly with the barcode service to follow shortly thereafter.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6874854%255E15306,00.html
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jt

JayT
August 8th, 2003, 03:15 AM
Some Brisbane airport future shots.

http://www.bne.com.au/data/baclpicture/2640001me.jpg

http://www.bne.com.au/data/baclpicture/2640002me.jpg

http://www.bne.com.au/data/baclpicture/2640004me.jpg
Click below for more pictures of BNE.
http://www.bne.com.au/corp/index2.html

Below is an image of the new 200m airport city currently under construction.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/paa4b29b574923fcea007688d15bfc38a/fc34af12.jpg

jt

lockstar
August 8th, 2003, 03:32 PM
I remember seeing at some exhibition a futuristic rendition of BNE once that had a new international terminal adjacent to the new parallel runway, opposite the exisiting domestic terminal.

I asked they guy manning the exhibition and he told me that the current International Terminal is just a temporary, and long term plans (at that time, at least, which was about 10 years ago) had a new int'l terminal connected to the domestic.

Plans may have changed now though.



lockstar

MonsourD
August 9th, 2003, 02:03 PM
the new international isnt temporary, when it gets to busy the plan to expand not build a new one.
Virgin also announced some more daily flights to Townsville

Jimmy James
August 10th, 2003, 02:32 AM
I caught the Airtrain back in April 2002 - it was pretty full I thought!

It's definitely a nice ride - I'm even finally over the fact that it's only one rail from Eagle Junction!

nagelixin
August 11th, 2003, 01:56 AM
What is going to happen with the Gateway Motorway? I have seen plans for it to go through the airport precint when the road is realigned on the northern side of the river.

Will they close the old road once (if) the new road is built?

JayT
August 11th, 2003, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by nagelixin
What is going to happen with the Gateway Motorway? I have seen plans for it to go through the airport precint when the road is realigned on the northern side of the river.

Will they close the old road once (if) the new road is built?

I think once they build the new bridge they will also re-align the motorway - or at least that is what I have seen.

jt

Shado
August 12th, 2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by lockstar
I remember seeing at some exhibition a futuristic rendition of BNE once that had a new international terminal adjacent to the new parallel runway, opposite the exisiting domestic terminal.

I asked they guy manning the exhibition and he told me that the current International Terminal is just a temporary, and long term plans (at that time, at least, which was about 10 years ago) had a new int'l terminal connected to the domestic.

Plans may have changed now though.

lockstar

This is the futuristic rendtion that you saw, or at least the one they went with. The current International Terminal was opened in 1995, and is anything but temporary.

It's 2700 hectares which makes it apparently Australia's largest capital city airport. (assumedly this refers to the amount of land available to BAC)..

JayT
August 15th, 2003, 12:14 PM
Brisbane leads the way in airport efficiency

Brisbane is Australia’s most efficient airport, according to a recent UBS Investment Report.

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) is the owner and operator of Brisbane Airport.

The July report shows that Brisbane, with a BAC staff of 129, moved 120,465 passengers per fulltime staff member in the June 2002 year. This compares to other airports such as Perth, which moved 40,771 passengers per staff member, and Sydney, which moved 58,346 passengers.

In terms of operating costs per passenger in the same period, Brisbane also performed exceptionally at $2.83 per passenger, compared to Perth at $5.43, and Sydney at $5.77.

BAC General Manager Operations Stephen Goodwin said although it had been an exceptionally tough couple of years for airports globally, Brisbane was ideally placed to ride out the difficulties as a result of its strong domestic passenger market.

“Because we service one of Australia’s fastest growing areas for tourism and for business, Brisbane Airport has a large share of the domestic market which has continued to perform well despite the global impacts of SARS, the war on terror and conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan,” said Mr Goodwin.

“As one of Australia’s first privatised airports, we have worked hard over the past six years to ensure that every aspect of our operations is functioning at maximum efficiency. We are able to pass on these efficiencies to the airlines and our other stakeholders while maintaining the highest standards of service, safety and security for the flying public.

"Brisbane will continue to operate to the highest standards and efficiencies by working in partnership to ensure value for money for our airline customers, profitability for our shareholders and service for the general public.”

While BAC employs around 130 staff, nearly 8000 people work full-time on Brisbane Airport. As BAC grows both its aviation and property development programs, this number will progressively increase to around 35,000 within 20 years.
http://www.bne.com.au/home_index.html
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jt

MonsourD
August 15th, 2003, 12:58 PM
Brisbane would be the most efficent because it was one of the first airports privatised, and thats why sydneys efficency is so bad. wait, i just read the article, ahh well. havent they just started road works out at the airport of kinsford smith drive/airport drive to make it 3 lanes. and put some more flyoves in at the gateway intersection

JayT
August 22nd, 2003, 12:47 AM
Virgin shows off new Boeing

21aug03
VIRGIN Blue yesterday took delivery of its first non-leased aircraft.

The B737-800 aircraft touched down at Brisbane airport after being handed over from the Boeing factory in Seattle.

The new plane took Virgin Blue's fleet to 32.

The airline plans to begin international flights later this year.

The aircraft, with a market value of $94.8 million, is the first to be owned by Virgin Blue following a purchase agreement with Boeing, which includes another nine aircraft scheduled to arrive over the next 12 months.

"This is a significant milestone for Virgin Blue as we move towards balancing our fleet of leased and owned aircraft," chief executive Brett Godfrey said.

Virgin Blue's existing aircraft are leased through various companies, including Boullion, CIT, GECAS, ILFC and Tombo.
(Source - Daily Telegraph)

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I'm amazed they did not already own their own aircraft - jt

Blabbyboy
August 22nd, 2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Shado
This is the futuristic rendtion that you saw, or at least the one they went with. The current International Terminal was opened in 1995, and is anything but temporary.

It's 2700 hectares which makes it apparently Australia's largest capital city airport. (assumedly this refers to the amount of land available to BAC)..
Land schland. Big deal. Means nothing in airport terms. Only passenger and service numbers matter when it comes to "airport size".

chrisaus
August 22nd, 2003, 03:35 AM
hmmm but sydney airport is on a small peice of land with no room to expand....

JayT
August 22nd, 2003, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Blabbyboy
Land schland. Big deal. Means nothing in airport terms. Only passenger and service numbers matter when it comes to "airport size".

It means alot when you are talking about Airport Future, that is why Brisbane Airport sold for More money than Perth and Melbourne airports combined!!!
jt

Billy the Kid
August 22nd, 2003, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by JayT
It means alot when you are talking about Airport Future, that is why Brisbane Airport sold for More money than Perth and Melbourne airports combined!!!
jt

As usual JayT you are being loose with the FACTS rad on
Main features of standard licences for airport operation

http://www1.oecd.org/daf/clp/Roundtables/airpor03.htm
Under the arrangements for newly privatised airports the Commonwealth will sell airport leases. The sale of three leases has raised a total of A$3.3b, involving A$1.3b for Melbourne Airport, A$1.4b for Brisbane Airport and A$0.6b for Perth Airport. There are a number of restrictions governing the leases:

In actual fact Brisbane sold for 100 million more than Melbourne and if they were put up for sale at the moment Melbourne would be far more valuable.

JayT
September 2nd, 2003, 08:17 AM
Flyover fast-track to airport
Peter Morley
02sep03

BRISBANE Airport access will become easier and faster with the widening of Airport Drive from four to six lanes by the end of this year.

And two other road projects would help reduce travel times and increase safety, the Brisbane Airport Corporation said yesterday.
One is a flyover and access roads designed to service the $200 million Number 1 Airport Drive shopping centre the BAC is planning, despite opposition from Brisbane City Council.
The council is taking Federal Court action against the development, saying it would cause traffic chaos on the Gateway Motorway which runs beside the planned centre.
Yesterday the BAC said the road projects were intended to accommodate an increase of passenger traffic from 13 million a year to 36 million over the next 20 years.

A spokeswoman said additional slip lanes at the Gateway/Airport Drive roundabout would significantly ease congestion at what had become one of Brisbane's busiest intersections. The roundabout work, to be completed early next year, was being financed by the state and federal governments and the corporation.
The BAC was funding the other projects.
The spokeswoman said the Number 1 Airport Drive flyover would take traffic heading to Brisbane's first fully integrated business, trade, tourism and retail precinct over Airport Drive and under the Airtrain viaduct.
It would provide free-flowing access to and from Number 1 Airport Drive and feature split-level access in and out of the precinct. The work had started and was scheduled for completion in March.
http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,7138220%255E3102,00.html
jt

JayT
September 2nd, 2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by Billy the Kid
In actual fact Brisbane sold for 100 million more than Melbourne and if they were put up for sale at the moment Melbourne would be far more valuable.
I doubt that, Melbourne airport is about half the size of Brisbane and isn’t linked via rail yet. Also Brisbane airport sits on one of the most strategic sites on the Asia Pacific Rim, the Australia Trade Coast and has direct links to the Port of Brisbane just across the river.

The only thing that is wrong with Brisbane airport is that it competes with another International airport only an hour away on the Gold Coast.
jt

chrisaus
September 2nd, 2003, 09:54 AM
what international flights go direct to GC? also that airport is a fair distance from the hotel precint of surfers its almost in NSW...

Dean
September 2nd, 2003, 11:05 AM
Ive heard that the some of the runway crosses into NSW

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

kota16
September 2nd, 2003, 04:50 PM
I read somewhere recently that Brisbane has overtaken Melbourne in passenger numbers,making it no 2 airport after Sydney.Virgin Blue is based in BNE,and MEL no longer has an airline based there.

JayT
September 3rd, 2003, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by kota16
I read somewhere recently that Brisbane has overtaken Melbourne in passenger numbers,making it no 2 airport after Sydney.Virgin Blue is based in BNE,and MEL no longer has an airline based there.

It did for a while but Melbourne is now slightly busier again. This may change in the near future as about 8 new international airlines are about to start services to Brisbane.

jt

chrisaus
September 3rd, 2003, 05:31 AM
about to or considering it....

BrizzyChris
September 3rd, 2003, 05:50 AM
Currently, rough airport figures for Brisbane and Melbourne are 13 million and 17 million respectively, so there is still quite a gap.

Dean
September 3rd, 2003, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by BrizzyChris
Currently, rough airport figures for Brisbane and Melbourne are 13 million and 17 million respectively, so there is still quite a gap.

Do u know Sydney's numbers: about 20 million???

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

chrisaus
September 3rd, 2003, 04:11 PM
wow didn't think brisbane airport was so close to melbourne in terms off passenger numbers. I guess overall QLD has more pasengers than VIC yearly going through the state?
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perth airport had 5.5 million passengers over the last year

JayT
September 4th, 2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
wow didn't think brisbane airport was so close to melbourne in terms off passenger numbers. I guess overall QLD has more pasengers than VIC yearly going through the state?
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perth airport had 5.5 million passengers over the last year

Yeah, there are about 8 domestic airports and 4 international airports in Queensland. Within an hour of Brisbane there are 2 international and 3 domestic so when you put them all together it would be pretty busy.

I think that Cairns is now busier than Adelaide in terms of passenger numbers. I can't confirm this but it said in a recent property article about land near Cairns airport and how its the 6th busiest airport in the country.

Coolangatta would certainly be infront of it though.

jt

BrizzyChris
September 4th, 2003, 03:01 AM
Sydney is around the 25 million passengers mark.

JayT
September 11th, 2003, 09:56 PM
Airport pledges reduced jet noise

Peter Morley
12sep03

NEW takeoff and landing procedures and a second runway built almost to the edge of Moreton Bay would reduce aircraft noise over Brisbane homes significantly, according to an airport draft master plan.



The latest Brisbane Airport Corporation plan proposes a $400 million runway parallel to the existing main runway.


The corporation said this would lead to a quieter life for thousands of residents.

It said the new arrangements would result in eventual noise reductions of up to 60 per cent for some residents in the airport flight path. The plan is due to be released today.

Maps provided by BAC indicate that the southside suburbs of Bulimba and Norman Park and parts of Cannon Hill – areas which have noise problems – ultimately would be quieter.

Under the changes, planes would land from the Bay and outgoing aircraft would take off over it. But prevailing wind patterns prevent this around the clock and flights would continue over suburbs south of the Brisbane River already badly affected by jet noise.

The second runway, while parallel, would also be staggered, bringing it closer to suburbs north of the river such as Hamilton, Ascot and Hendra.

Opponents to the plan argue it would be better to extend and upgrade the airport's existing cross runway, leading to minimum flights over land.

Federal MP Kevin Rudd, who unsuccessfully took the airport corporation to court, said his next fight would depend on how the corporation planned to operate new flight paths serving two runways.

"Therein lies the key as to whether the impact for the inner suburbs of Brisbane will be manageable or not," he said.

Mr Rudd represents the southside seat of Griffith.

Ban Aircraft Over Residential Brisbane president Jackie Cann said the fact the second runway would be closer to the Bay than the existing one would make no difference to ground noise.

She feared some homes might experience more noise if planes could not operate over the Bay.

The BAC plan, which is updated every five years, says Brisbane will need a second runway by 2012.

BAC corporate communications manager Lea Crombie said the master plan was not an application to develop a runway.

"But it details key environmental gains relating to noise from aircraft which show positive outcomes for the community," Ms Crombie said.

"The runway will be moved as far as practical towards Moreton Bay and away from high-density residential areas."

She said the corporation would like to run simultaneous, opposite direction runway operations, leading to as many aircraft as possible being diverted over the Bay and away from suburbs.

Ms Crombie said that compared with other airports, Brisbane offered excellent buffer zones between its main runway and homes – at least 6.7km The proposed runway would be 6.4km away but this compared with only 600m in Cairns, Coolangatta, Sydney and Adelaide."

Under the plan the international and domestic terminals would be expanded to cater for more and bigger aircraft.

The domestic terminal would have a dedicated arrivals and departure road network similar to the international
http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,7238323%255E952,00.html
jt

Julz
September 12th, 2003, 07:27 AM
sydney airpost has 23 million passengers, melb has 17 million and brisbane has13 million, but if there were only one international airport in queensland being Brisbane it would have more passengers than melbourne due to the number of tourists from abroad visiting beautiful queensland

chrisaus
September 18th, 2003, 05:52 PM
The Current Level Of Passengers Through Brisbane and Coolongatta is expected to be the same in Perth by 2018....

JayT
September 26th, 2003, 12:49 AM
Went past the southern end of BNE yesterday (had a excursion to Luggage Pt).

The 767 heavy maintenance facility construction is fantastic!!! Concrete piers are in place and are about 30 meters high with gigantic struts between that look like they have been removed from the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

This looks like a MEGA project and as you can imagine my eyes just boggled when I saw this.


The Pinkenba area is well worth a visit with plenty of construction going on. I counted at least 5 constuction tower cranes around the port and there are some very impressive "skeletons" of industrial projects Under Construction - if you like that sort of thing.

JT

JayT
October 3rd, 2003, 12:04 PM
http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/p/P1010046.JPG.13456.jpg

http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/p/P1010036.JPG.36938.jpg
Behind the planes are the new 767 hanger I was talking about in the prevous post. I count 5 cranes (odd ones) just on this project alone - BNE is going off!!!

jt

chrisaus
October 7th, 2003, 05:19 PM
BRISBANE
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http://www.airliners.net/open.file/426400/L/

JayT
October 8th, 2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
BRISBANE
>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/426400/L/

Wow thats one of the best pics I've seen - definetly worth printing out in colour!!!

jt

BrizzyChris
October 8th, 2003, 08:55 AM
That photo should say "Welcome to Los Angeles, Australia". :)

JayT
October 8th, 2003, 02:25 PM
As far as the Airport construction goes - just think of the Suncorp stadium when it was under construction.

jt

Aussie Bhoy
October 8th, 2003, 03:47 PM
It's come a long way since WW2. Pictures from Peter Dunn's Australia at War site,

http://home.st.net.au/~dunn


Eagle Farm 1943
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/airfields/eaglefarm03.jpg

1944
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/airfields/eaglefarm02.jpg

1944
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/locations/campseabee02.jpg

Modern Hangar no1
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/airfields/hangar1ef-02.jpg

Inside a Hangar
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/airfields/hangar7ef-02.jpg

Daffy
October 9th, 2003, 06:26 AM
My family and I had the pleasure of using the airport recently and found it excellent. We even used the train into town ($27.00) and found it easy to access - but not as good as Sydney. I was surprised at the slow runnig though. Brisbane CBD is so compact that it is an easy walk from Central station to most CBD locations.

On the way back from Noosa (far north Melbourne!) we used the rental car area which was pretty impressive. Avis had staff in the carpark checking us in which took all of about 3minutes from the time of arrival. Just one niggle; the petrol station is on the wrong side of the road for rental car users who would probably be the main users of the facility; someone must have copied a layout from some right hand drive country airport!

chrisaus
October 9th, 2003, 07:58 AM
brisbanes hills/mountains look pretty big!!!

TOCC
October 26th, 2003, 11:14 AM
Café Lomandra a first for airport’s Export Park

Work to build Brisbane Airport’s first convenience food and beverage facility outside of the International and Domestic terminals, to cater for the needs of almost 8,000 airport workers, is progressing to schedule.

Café Lomandra, on Lomandra Drive opposite Qantas Drive in Brisbane Airport’s booming Export Park precinct, will provide indoor and outdoor dining and off-street truck and car parking. It is expected to be popular with truck and car drivers.

Patrons will be able to select from a wide range of takeaway and eat-in meals, snacks and beverages.

Café Lomandra is another step towards Brisbane Airport Corporation’s (BAC) goal of providing a greater range of services and facilities for the convenience of airport workers, travellers and the local community, said BAC General Manager Commercial Services Otto Ambagtsheer.

“This exciting new facility will become a meeting place for workers at Export Park and will provide a much-needed convenience food facility for the airport community and general public,” said Mr Ambagtsheer.

“Brisbane Airport is more than just a place to catch a plane,” he said. “It provides world-class shopping, business and leisure facilities. Café Lomandra will add to the Brisbane Airport experience and will be a good location to take in a bit of plane spotting.”

Café Lomandra will be operated by Eurest Australia, part of the worldwide Compass Group – a major global food services organisation. Work is due for completion early next month <November 2003>.

Export Park is home to leading international and national organisations including major Swedish airfreight user the Sandvik group, Australian discount retail giant Crazy Clark’s, telecommunications leader Cellnet Telecommunications, Qantas, Australia Post and Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service

http://www.bne.com.au/corp/media_releases/16_10_2003.html

TOCC
October 26th, 2003, 11:15 AM
International travel hits record high at Brisbane

New figures show international travel through Brisbane Airport is at its highest level since 11 September 2001.

Last month <September> Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) recorded its busiest month ever for international departures with 121,500 passengers choosing to exit Australia from Brisbane’s International Terminal.

When added to the 121,500 international arrivals during the same period, BAC recorded a total 243,000 international passenger movements in September – the biggest month since September 2001 when Ansett Airlines collapsed and terrorists attacked the World Trade Centre in New York.

The new statistics show Queensland’s travel industry is on the rebound and directly benefiting from BAC’s consistent drive to bolster travel in key international markets, said BAC Airline and Cargo Manager Cam Macphee.

“The start of China Airlines services between Brisbane and Taipei on 16 September has had an immediate impact with Taiwanese arrivals up 17 percent, which is the first year on year growth since February 2000,” said Mr Macphee.

“Strong growth was achieved across all markets. Overall the Chinese market was up 32 percent, European travellers increased by 18 percent, United Kingdom travellers recorded 11 percent growth and the Australian and New Zealand markets increased by five percent each compared to the same period a year earlier.”

September’s peak departing passenger figures immediately follow the previous departure record of 120,800 a month earlier, in August this year.

“International travel is looking strong and sustainable through Brisbane Airport,” said Mr Macphee. “Arrivals are already up six percent and departures are up seven percent on the same period a year earlier.”

Mr Macphee anticipated further growth with the start of daily services later this month by Emirates Airlines, from Dubai to Brisbane via Singapore.

BrizzyChris
October 27th, 2003, 09:08 AM
Emirates has now begun flying into Brisbane as of this week.

TOCC
November 1st, 2003, 02:35 AM
not really Brisbane airport specifically but close enough....

Brisbane offers perfect hub for launch of Blue expansion

Virgin Blue's upcoming public float is set to cement its status as the sunshine state's highest flying corporation.

Chief executive Brett Godfrey has defied the doubters to succeed where many airline entrepreneurs have failed and secure the low-cost carrier's position as Australia's second airline.

Since launching in 2000 in the midst of a fierce four-way battle in the domestic airline market, Virgin Blue has seen off first Impulse Airlines, then Ansett.

When it hits the Australian Stock Exchange boards with an estimated value of $2 billion-plus, it will vie with Flight Centre to become the second biggest Queensland-based listed company after Suncorp Metway.

The airline, owned by Richard Branson and Patrick Corp, has been Queensland's fastest rising corporate star. It has a commitment to retain its headquarters in the state for five years under the terms of the incentive package it struck with the Queensland government when it launched. And Godfrey says there are many advantages to being based in Brisbane. "This is the right place for us to do business," he says.

The airline's workforce has increased tenfold since its launch to around 3000. It has established a secondary crew base in Melbourne and is setting up another in Christchurch, where its New Zealand subsidiary Pacific Blue will be based.

However, 80 per cent of its staff are still based in Brisbane, and the airline's communication and strategy head David Huttner says the location suits its human resources strategy.

When it launched, it considered basing its headquarters elsewhere. But Huttner says most of its staff preferred to be based in Brisbane because of the quality of life they could enjoy there. "We found the majority of our pilots actually preferred to live in Brisbane over Sydney or Melbourne," he says.

As it has grown, the airline has considered relocating its head office from Barry Parade in Brisbane's Fortitude Valley closer to Brisbane airport. But Godfrey says it has extended leases and taken more space in its existing building and expects to stay there for the next few years.

The airline's first international flights, as the look-alike Pacific Blue, will be a daily service between Brisbane and Christchurch from February 1 next year.

Godfrey says several more routes will be announced over coming months. However, the airline is proceeding with caution into the trans-Tasman market, pending the outcome of an appeal by Qantas and Air New Zealand of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's veto of their proposed alliance.

He says international markets are unlikely to represent a significant proportion of Virgin Blue's total business in the near term. The airline has 36 Boeing 737s, which is set to grow to 42 over the next 10 months.

Over time, Godfrey says the airline will put six jets and possibly up to 10 on international routes. It has flagged its interest in starting flights to Fiji and Vanuatu, although that is expected to take at least another six months.

The international expansion will provide a new growth avenue as the airline reaches maturity in the domestic market.

The airline reported a net profit of $110 million for the 12 months to March this year and analysts expect more strong growth this financial year. Macquarie Equities has forecast net profit for the year to March 2004 of $157 million, helped by ongoing domestic market share gains and the rising Australian dollar.

After the dramatic growth trajectory it has enjoyed, analysts expect the rate of earnings growth to slow next financial year.

JP Morgan is forecasting 41 per cent growth in net profit to $155 million for the year to March 2004, slowing to 7 per cent growth to $166 million in fiscal 2005.

The next few months will bring more changes for Virgin Blue as it taxis towards a public float, from which its half owner Patrick Corp will emerge as the controlling shareholder.

It is also preparing for a launch by Qantas of a no-frills carrier. Godfrey says that if Qantas does enter the no-frills end of the market, "we have plans in place to compete".

Of course, if such a move by Qantas is successful in warding off potential new entrants, Virgin Blue will also benefit.

But Godfrey plans to stick with the fundamentals of the business model that has taken the airline from strength to strength in its first three years.

BrizzyChris
November 24th, 2003, 03:03 AM
Just noticed that the Brisbane airport site has recently been done up and slightly changed. It looks and works a lot better now:

www.bne.com.au

However, one cool thing I have found is the site now has a specific page setup just for passenger statistics info:

http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=FastFacts_AirportAndTravelStatistics#10

JayT
November 24th, 2003, 08:54 AM
They have new bigger pictures of future proposals.
http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=TheBigVision

Domestic Terminal
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/AirportRealEstate_DTB_2020.jpg

Export Park
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/AirportRealEstate_ExportPark.jpg

International Terminal
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/AirportRealEstate_ITB_2020.jpg

1 Airport Drive - Most of which is currently under constructon causing major traffic delays!
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/AirportRealEstate_No1AirportDriveJune03.jpg

Today
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/RealEstate_LandUse2003.gif

Tomorrow!!!
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/RealEstate_LandUse2023.gif

Link below to current construction projects including the 767 maintenance facility.
http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=CurrentDevelopmentandConstruction

Awsome site - thanks BrizzyChris for the update.
jt

chrisaus
November 28th, 2003, 07:37 AM
Perth Airport welcomes new West Coast/Gold Coast non-stop service
Perth Airport welcomes Virgin Blue's announcement of new non-stop services between Perth and the Gold Coast.

The new services will be available five times per week operating Monday to Thursday and on Saturdays, from March 29, 2004.

"This is a well-timed decision by Virgin Blue as domestic travel to and from Perth is growing at a tremendous rate," Perth Airport Chief Executive Officer Graham Muir said.

"We expect that travellers will take advantage of the new service with the low airfares on offer and the fact that this is the only non-stop service available between Perth and the Gold Coast.

"It will appeal not only to Western Australians wanting to visit the Gold Coast, but will attract visitors to the west coast, particularly international tourists."

Virgin Blue will operate Boeing 737 aircraft on the Perth-Gold Coast route which has the potential to carry up to 885 passengers to and from Perth each week.

Over 380,000 domestic passengers arrived at or departed the airport during October 2003, making this the busiest month on record. Domestic passenger numbers continue to grow strongly demonstrating the success of the continued availability of discount airfares from domestic airlines.

International passenger numbers also showed positive growth in October 2003, with a 3% increase compared to October 2002.
http://www1.perthairport.com/content.aspx?ContentID=261
Low Fare Leader Adds First Time Ever Gold Coast-West Coast Direct Service
Virgin Blue has announced it will continue to be the low fare leader with a greater than 40% increase in year round direct services to the Gold Coast including the launch of a first time ever direct West Coast – Gold Coast Service from 29 March next year - offering the only non-stop option between these two key tourism centres.

The new service will initially operate five days a week, but is expected to move to daily services, subject to demand.

The decision to launch the flight was based on the large number of Gold Coast and Northern New South Wales based travellers who currently drive to Brisbane or connect to Perth via Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide to take advantage of Virgin Blue’s low fares to the West Coast.

Maintaining Virgin Blue’s new route announcement tradition, a special one-off fare of $149* one-way will be up for grabs from today until 31 December 2003 for travel between 29 March and 30 June 2004.

Mid-Week Mini-Fares will be $199*, while everyday low fares between the Gold Coast and Perth start from $249* one-way.

These fares make the Gold Coast significantly cheaper than Bali for the West Australian traveller.

The new flight is an exciting addition to Virgin Blue’s fast growing Gold Coast and Perth schedules, addressing the needs of the tourism industry and business community as well as those who until recently simply couldn’t afford to fly across the country to visit their loved ones.

This first-time-ever service continues Virgin Blue’s tradition of ‘hub-busting’ to offer people affordable flights direct to their destinations.

The new flight from the Gold Coast to Perth will kick off at the same time as the airline adds two additional direct flights from Melbourne and an additional Sydney flight to its year-round schedule, adding a product that enhances tourism but also meets the needs of the steadily growing business traffic on these key routes.

Virgin Blue Head of Communications and Strategy, David Huttner said: “There are two kinds of airlines in this world, the type that raise prices when their flights are full, and the type that simply add more capacity and keep the fares affordable for all. Virgin Blue has spent the last three years proving that we are the low fare leader and today’s announcement reaffirms that we will continue to be the people’s champion, not just for the tourism industry but for anyone who wants to fly with the best service at the best prices.”

As a consequence of these additional flights Virgin Blue will go from nine to 13 daily departures from the Gold Coast year-round, a 44% increase in their winter Gold Coast schedule reflecting the type of capacity levels that until now the airline has only offered during the peak season.

David Huttner added, “The Gold Coast and Northern New South Wales bookings have demonstrated that the type of capacity levels that have been offered in the peak season can be supported year round if the fares are attractive enough. We think it’s time that the tourism industry stop thinking of the year in terms of peaks and troughs – that’s why we are putting on peak level capacity year round.”

He continued, “We have always promised to support the regions that support us and these additional services will provide Virgin Blue Guests with more flexibility and choice in terms of flight timings and low fare availability.”

The Gold Coast has successfully increased its long-recognised desirability as an ideal “sun, surf’ and sand” holiday for both domestic and international visitors.

At the same time, Virgin Blue has developed a loyal base of Gold Coast business travellers who regularly take advantage of affordable fares to fly on its daily direct flights to Sydney, Melbourne or Adelaide to go about their business and will shortly be able to add Perth to their list of destination options out of the Gold Coast.

zztopless
December 1st, 2003, 02:07 PM
Does brisbane airport only have one runway for both international and domestic flights to share?

Aussie Bhoy
December 1st, 2003, 03:15 PM
No it has 2, 01/19 which takes most of the traffic, and also 14/32 which you can see in the picture below, this runway is capable of taking aircraft up to the size of a Boeing 737.

You can see the projected third runway in JayT's other picture.

For anyone interested the runway names come from the compass bearing, 01 being roughly 010 magnetic. And of course as you land in either direction on a runway depending on the wind they have 2 names to show which way is in use, 01 (010) or 19 (190).

http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/RealEstate_LandUse2003.gif

TOCC
December 18th, 2003, 05:19 AM
wow..bne airport has been done up and its awsome now. there is facts, pictures and everything. so much better now. anyway heres a few pics, i hope they work. if not just go to the site, there worth the look.
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/BAC141%20Airport%20Landing.jpg
http://http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/BAC111%20Airport%20Night.jpg
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/BAC064%20Aerial%20Brisbane.jpg
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/BAC065%20Train.jpg

BrizzyChris
December 22nd, 2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by TOCC
wow..bne airport has been done up and its awsome now. there is facts, pictures and everything. so much better now. anyway heres a few pics, i hope they work. if not just go to the site, there worth the look.


I just said that at the top of this page. :?

BrizzyChris
March 10th, 2004, 03:18 AM
Updated Passenger Movement Statistics at the BNE Airport website:

http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=FastFacts_AirportAndTravelStatistics#10

Looks like Brisbane Airport is going great guns.

JayT
March 11th, 2004, 08:26 AM
Aerial of Brisbane International Terminal showing railway station at back.


http://www.jetphotos.net/images/images2/y/YBBN.jpg.63006.jpg

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=219125

jt

Aussie Bhoy
March 11th, 2004, 11:08 AM
Good picture JayT.

When I see the shelter for Smithy's Southern Cross next to the roundabout, I wonder what idiot came up with that design. You can't see the aircraft from the road, and I suspect a lot of people don't even know that one of the most famous planes in history is right there.

Other forumers old enough to remember Eagle Farm airport, and using the terminals there, will remember that you used to drive past the plane on the way, and it was in a large glass walled building that gave perfect views from the road.

Eagle Farm airport 1958
http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ShowImage.asp?B=11361758&T=P&S=1

chrisaus
March 11th, 2004, 11:27 AM
jayt is that really nice looking green belt going to be developed as part of the airport city? the landscape looks alot nicer than that of around perth airport what looks very arid/dry and not very attractive at all.
looks like the new adelaide terminal abit.
is there any multi level carparks at the airport terminals? can't remember seeing any
is the land where the carpark is and what looks like a bus area future expansion land?

chrisaus
March 11th, 2004, 11:30 AM
btw qantas are starting up direct flights between Perth And Cairns in addition to virgin blue's new Perth To Gold Coast direct flights plus the Perth to brisbane capacity is being boosted using airbuses.... so west coast - QLD flights/access is on the increase

JayT
March 12th, 2004, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
jayt is that really nice looking green belt going to be developed as part of the airport city? the landscape looks alot nicer than that of around perth airport what looks very arid/dry and not very attractive at all.
looks like the new adelaide terminal abit.
is there any multi level carparks at the airport terminals? can't remember seeing any
is the land where the carpark is and what looks like a bus area future expansion land?

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=219125

That green area of land will probably have a new freeway running through it. The airport city developments are more to teh left of the picture. Also that green belt will be in the path of the 3rd runway so it may be safe from large scale development.

There are two large multi level car parks at the Domestic Terminal which is much larger in size than the international terminal pictured.

As for future expansion, the International terminal is designed for future expansion and can be sized up very easily.

jt

BrizzyChris
March 12th, 2004, 10:05 AM
Currently there is only ground level car parking at the international terminal, but I presume a multi-level carpark will be built in the future, when the demand is there. Also, from renderings, the International Terminal should see an expansion of about 5/6 more airbridges to the left of that pic, and about 7/8 airbridges to the right - by 2018 that is.

TOCC
March 26th, 2004, 03:39 PM
25/03/2004 - Healthy horizon: Brisbane passenger numbers keep building

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) has reported continued strong international passenger growth figures, with February arriving passengers 21% above the previous year, and departing passengers up by 23%.

BAC Airline and Cargo Commercial Manager Cam Macphee said international passengers during February continued the trend of the past six months, with solid growth exceeding forecasts, while domestic figures continue to perform strongly ahead of the launch of new low-cost carrier Jetstar in May.

“The past six months for Brisbane have shown a strong and consistent trend, especially on the back of increased trans-Tasman competition and low airfares, with passengers on these routes up 41% on last year,” Mr Macphee said.

“Every month further strengthens the view that Brisbane Airport has fully recovered from the succession of major hits to the Australian travel and tourism industry over recent years. The Airport is significantly busier and this shows no sign of abating, which is great news for the travel industry, tourism operators, ground transport companies and the region’s economy in general. It reinforces the theory that a healthy, growing airport is critical to a healthy, growing economy.”

The February Brisbane Airport figures support the trend of previous months, which included January’s all-time record for the total number of passengers through Brisbane Airport – which in itself eclipsed the record set in December 2003.

In February, Australian travellers were up 37% and New Zealand up 51%, although Malaysian, Singaporean and Chinese passengers were below last year as a result of Chinese New Year celebrations occurring in January 2004 compared to February 2003.

Domestic passengers continued to perform well, with February 16 % above last year’s level. Virgin Blue continues to grow its passenger numbers and market share.

“We are confident that with the commencement of Jetstar services in May, competition will further stimulate the domestic market, resulting in strong growth across the board,” Mr Macphee said.

The northern winter 2003 schedules have produced continued international traffic growth over recent months. Emirates and China Airlines both continue their strong growth, as does new International airline, Pacific Blue, which completed its first full month of operation in February operating a daily Brisbane to Christchurch service. During the month, Thai Airways also increased its Brisbane to Bangkok services from three times per week to four times per week.

TOCC
March 26th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Early start forecast for airport expansion

A $120 million expansion of Brisbane Airport's international terminal will be brought forward to meet increasing demand as it repeatedly notches up record monthly passenger numbers.





A 20 per cent increase in arrivals and departures was recorded last month compared with the same time last year and in January the international and domestic terminals set records.

With international passenger movements exceeding forecasts, the Brisbane Airport Corporation has sped up planning for a $100 million makeover of the terminal and $20 million upgrade of aprons and aerobridges.

"Work was scheduled to start in three or four years but the demand means we will have to get under way in probably two years," corporation spokesman Tim Rothwell said yesterday.

"International growth is very strong and that is making us look at the timing of a major expansion that will come on earlier than we had anticipated.

"The existing building is a modular type that is designed to be expanded by 40m widths. We are planning that now."

Increased trans-Tasman competition and low airfares are largely responsible for the higher use of the terminal.

Air New Zealand yesterday announced additional flights from Brisbane to Auckland and Christchurch, adding another 67,000 trans-Tasman seats annually.

In February, domestic passengers numbers were up 16 per cent on last year. They are likely to grow in May when the Qantas low-cost carrier JetStar starts in competition with Virgin Blue.

There are plans for another low-cost carrier, OzJet, to take to the skies by the end of this year and yesterday Virgin Blue said it would begin flying the Brisbane-Newcastle route in May and put on more Brisbane-Rockhampton flights.

Mr Rothwell said that while the domestic terminal eventually would be extended, the "biggest issue" now were the service roads.

"We are working on a number of options," he said.

Despite the popularity of Brisbane and the airport's increasing use for freight distribution, the proposed 2012 timetable for completion of a second parallel runway was unlikely to be brought forward, Mr Rothwell said.

Aircraft movements were actually lower than five years ago because airlines had opted for larger capacity planes.

Even with the arrival of the new JetStar service, 2012 was still the "indicative forecast".

"The timing depends on growth and the extent to which we can plan to cover what happens in peak times," Mr Rothwell said. "Ultimately airlines will pay increased charges for this runway infrastructure so they are very interested in optimum timing."

KIWIKAAS
March 26th, 2004, 10:04 PM
It will be interesting watching this scenario develop in the coming two decades with increased pressure on Sydney''s facilities to see how airports like Brisbane and Melbourne will potentially take an ever increasing proportion of air traffic through their superior expansion and opperational potential (ie. room for new runways and 24/7 opperations).

JayT
April 6th, 2004, 06:51 AM
Did anyone see the new Qantas hanger on TV?

They raised a 3000 ton roof 26 meters into the air the other day. The roof is the size of Suncorp stadium!!!

The maintenance facility will service Qantas's fleet of boeing 767 aircraft as well as the new Airbus 380s.

jt

ShayPlan
August 9th, 2004, 07:55 AM
Firstly, great pics.

Secondly, Brisbane Airport has the largest land area of any major airport in the South-east Asia/Pacific region (excluding KLIA). So with this advantage, why stop at building 3 runways, when you could reconfigure the existing runways so that 2 parallel runways run along each side of the airport drive?!

Having a total of 4 runways. Maybe keeping the crosswind runway running NE/SW, making a total of 5 runways.!

Most major US airports have at least 4 runways, and Brisbane has the space for 5 or 6. Its location makes it great for becoming the major airport in oz. Im from Sydney and I feel it become the no. 1 airport as its closer to the us and asia than syd or mel.

AUboy
August 9th, 2004, 11:28 AM
There is no demand to have 5 runways. Would be a massive waste of money.
You sound like a Queenslander. Most people from Sydney to advertise for no reason that they are from Sydney. Jay-T is that you? :blahblah:

Arunava
August 9th, 2004, 12:52 PM
Most major US airports have at least 4 runways, and Brisbane has the space for 5 or 6.
Not quite right. The only really large ones I can think of with 4 parallel runways (similar to what you envision) are Denver, LAX, Atlanta and Dallas/Fort Worth. They also have many more flights and passengers than BNE.

Macca-GC
August 9th, 2004, 03:55 PM
What is going to happen with the Gateway Motorway? I have seen plans for it to go through the airport precint when the road is realigned on the northern side of the river.

Will they close the old road once (if) the new road is built?

What I think would be the best option is to make the current motorway, the entry onto Campbell Newman's TransApex plan tunnel into the city.

JayT
August 10th, 2004, 12:33 AM
There is no demand to have 5 runways. Would be a massive waste of money.
You sound like a Queenslander. Most people from Sydney to advertise for no reason that they are from Sydney. Jay-T is that you? :blahblah:
Um no!

We don't need 5 runways however - the two we have will do quite nicely until a third is built.

jt

Macca-GC
August 10th, 2004, 01:09 PM
Why on Earth would Brisbane need 5 runways? Crazy people. We'd need an extra terminal before 5 runways. Sydney only has 3. I don't know about Melbourne. Adelaide has 2. But I do think that the extension of the runway at Gold Coast Airport shoud go ahead to be able to get direct flights to Asia. And in a few years, GCA will probably end up needing another runway. They'll have to make it parrallel.

Blend
August 10th, 2004, 01:18 PM
GCA will need another runway? i find that unlikely. GCA will only be servicing the GC area, wheras brisbane is a hub to QLD. I dunno about 5 runways lol, but 3 seems like a good idea.

Macca-GC
August 10th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Yeah. GCA is setting record passenger numbers almost every 2 months. Even the normally quiet June broke the record from March. Admittably, it won't be for at least another 10 years before we need it. And our International arrivals would need to increase dramatically, but that will happen when the runway is extended.

ShayPlan
August 13th, 2004, 11:51 AM
I did not say to have 5 runways, built anytime soon, but suggested that there is enough room to build 2 parallel runways on EACH SIDE of the Airport Drive. That makes 4 runways, people.

BNE should aim to become the busiest airport in the country, as it runs more efficiently (24hrs) than Sydney, and locational advantages (closer to Americas, Asia) than Melbourne....And no, Im not a QLDer, but a Sydneysider!

Shado
August 13th, 2004, 12:45 PM
Hmm, alot of the Asian air traffic goes through Perth though, it's closer again in most cases. Really Brisbane only has major advantages when either going direct to somewhere out of range of Melbourne / Sydney, or when the point of origin or destination is in SE Queensland.... The only artificial thing at work is Sydney airports curfew / limited room, which pushes international air traffic away a little.

Blend
August 14th, 2004, 06:37 PM
Off topic a little, but i dont understand how melbourne can have such a busy port. It makes little sense why boats would go gown under Aus.. Sydney, Brisbane, Perth, Even townsville would be better options. (IMO)

Also, i didnt know that sydney airport had a 'curfew'. thats unusual!

JayT
August 15th, 2004, 11:36 AM
Off topic a little, but i dont understand how melbourne can have such a busy port. It makes little sense why boats would go gown under Aus.. Sydney, Brisbane, Perth, Even townsville would be better options. (IMO)

Also, i didnt know that sydney airport had a 'curfew'. thats unusual!

Sydney has a curfew because it is surrounded by medium density - and its a political hot potato.

In answer to your first question many ships go straight to Melbourne because it is a major industrial center.

This will change eventually though because I have a friend who works in a federal department to do with ports and it seems Brisbane will eventually take over as the hub of the east coast - which is why they are spending so many billions doing it up and connecting it with other cities.

jt

Cornholio
August 17th, 2004, 04:48 AM
And I would envisiage that Darwin would also increase its port capacity to take advantage of the new rail link direct to Adelaide then Melbourne.

BrizzyChris
August 17th, 2004, 02:58 PM
Yeah. GCA is setting record passenger numbers almost every 2 months. Even the normally quiet June broke the record from March. Admittably, it won't be for at least another 10 years before we need it. And our International arrivals would need to increase dramatically, but that will happen when the runway is extended.

There is hardly enough space as it is to extend the current runway at Coolangatta, let alone build a parallel runway.

BruceAlmighty
August 17th, 2004, 03:25 PM
Eco Airlines seeks green light for Brisbane-Pacific services

The Civil Aviation Safety Authority today confirmed it has received an application for a foreign air operators certificate from start-up carrier Eco Airlines, a Hong Kong-based charter operation that intends to base itself in Brisbane.

The airline wants to wet-lease two Russian Yakovlev Yak 42Ds from a Russian carrier, Karat Air.

The start-up wants to operate two weekly charters - one from Brisbane to Honiara, capital of the Solomon Islands, on to the city of Majuro in the Marshall Islands, followed by Kiribati’s capital, Tarawa, and then to Nadi in Fiji.

Its other route links Brisbane with Honiara and the island of Pohnpei in Micronesia and Saipan, the capital of the Northern Marianas.

The airline was intending to take to the skies in July but it has taken longer to get approval from CASA than was expected.

CASA said it was close to finishing the safety inspection of the aircraft, although there were still a few outstanding matters in the airline’s application which the authority wanted addressed.

A CASA spokesperson said after being approved by that authority, Eco Airlines had another hurdle to jump. It would also need to apply for a licence from the International Air Services Commission.

Eco Airlines has appointed Aerius Travel as its main general sales agents for passenger services.

Yakovlev Yak 42
http://www.russians.bird.ch/Yak42/18974c.jpg

JayT
August 18th, 2004, 12:57 AM
9/08/2004 - Airport an economic powerhouse for SEQ – report

http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=MediaReleases

Brisbane Airport has the potential to directly and indirectly contribute an estimated $17.2 billion to the economy of South East Queensland within 20 years, and create more than 180,000 jobs as a result of economic multipliers or “flow-ons” throughout the region.

The forecast is contained in an economic impact study by SGS Economics & Planning, which was presented to Brisbane City Council as part of an historic Civic Cabinet meeting at the Airport’s International Terminal.

Brisbane Lord Mayor Campbell Newman said the Brisbane metropolitan area was the hub of regional economic activity in Queensland and a driver of the State’s competitiveness. The Airport was an “engine room” of economic activity for all of Queensland, he said.

“In an increasingly globalised economy, the economic prosperity of Queensland depends on the continued success of Brisbane as an internationally focused gateway,” Cr Newman said.

“In Brisbane, we have the best port in Australia and the best airport in Australia. There is little doubt that the Airport is a key economic asset as a location for investment, as an export gateway and as a provider of jobs.

“The economic impact of Brisbane Airport reverberates beyond the Airport’s boundaries – and indeed beyond the boundaries of Greater Brisbane.”

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) CEO Koen Rooijmans said the SGS study highlighted the importance of continuing to diversify Airport growth beyond the traditional airline passenger traffic. He said in order to achieve the projected growth, it was critical that airport capacity be planned and developed to meet demand.

This included the continued development in the areas of freight handling, warehousing, transport and communications, manufacturing, research and development, education and training, recreation, tourism, leisure and retail.

“The 21st century is without doubt the Aviation Century in which the emerging global cities are redefining the role of their aviation gateway. Airports are much more than just a place to catch planes – they are proving to generate sustainable jobs in sunrise industries.

“As this report shows, Brisbane is taking a lead role in the new aviation economy. Assuming planned investments in aeronautical capacity are made and future demand for air travel is accommodated by developments such as a new runway system, the Airport will contribute an estimated $17.2 billion to the economy of South East Queensland within 20 years. This would be equivalent to 10 per cent of the gross regional product in that year,” Mr Rooijmans said.

He said the study demonstrated the importance of cooperation between the stakeholders in the Airport’s future on infrastructure and planning.

“We see a strong working partnership with the Brisbane City Council in particular as being a crucial component in delivering on this level of growth and economic benefit. BCC and BAC recently struck an important agreement to anticipate, plan for and develop the infrastructure that will harness these opportunities and lock in the benefits of an efficient, sustainable and growing airport for the entire region,” Mr Rooijmans said.
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jt

JayT
August 18th, 2004, 01:00 AM
4/08/2004 - BAC announces Annual Results 2003/04

http://www.bne.com.au/content/stand...e=MediaReleases

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) today announced a 22 per cent increase in EBIT (unaudited) to $102.2 million in 2003/04 up from $83.4 million in the previous year.

Net profit, before tax and shareholder distributions has grown to $17.7 million, up from $3.8 million.

International and domestic passengers both grew by 17 per cent for the year with strong domestic growth from Virgin Blue and from new international airlines Emirates, China Airlines and Pacific Blue. Qantas’ new direct Brisbane/Los Angeles services commenced in May and additional Pacific Blue services start shortly. In addition, new entrant Jetstar started in May, and has already announced further services for Brisbane.

EBITDA grew 16.6 per cent for 2003/04. Total revenue grew by 14 per cent to $193 million. Operating costs grew 8.5 per cent to $56.4 million. $2.5 million of this increase was in respect of government mandated security charges which are recovered in full from the airlines. Excluding these costs, operating costs grew by just under four per cent.

Increases in insurance costs and higher legal and professional fees to defend the legal action by Westfield (to prevent BAC’s Number 1 Airport Drive concept) and to establish a new holding company are the main reasons for the increase.

In addition to 2003/04 being a very strong growth year it has also been a year of consolidation. The establishment of a new holding company above BAC on 30 June 2004 means the BAC Group is now able to invest in business opportunities outside Brisbane Airport, although there are no current plans to do so.

New debt facilities were established in the year. BAC now has a new issue of $350 million credit wrapped bonds repayable in 2013, $350 million due in 2010 and $407 million bank facilities in 2008. Expensive mezzanine bonds were repaid on 30 June 2004 saving over $4 million per annum in finance costs from 2004/05.

On 1 July 2004 $80 million of the facilities were undrawn and BAC had $60 million cash in the bank. Based on forecast debt levels, interest is around 75 per cent hedged to 2010, with 30 per cent hedging in place for the following five years.

Standard & Poor’s recent upgrade to BBB and Moody’s confirmation of BAC’s Baa1 rating are positive.
BAC is now better placed to take advantage of future opportunities than at any time in its history in terms of corporate structure and debt facilities.
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jt

JayT
August 18th, 2004, 01:02 AM
3/08/2004 - Hellmann finds haven at Brisbane Airport

http://www.bne.com.au/content/stand...e=MediaReleases
Hellmann Worldwide Logistics, one of the world’s oldest and largest logistics companies, has become the first third party logistics company to locate in a stand-alone facility at Brisbane Airport.

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) will design, construct and lease a 4,600 square metre building for the German-based company and its 40-plus Brisbane staff at Export Park, a dedicated cargo precinct with direct access to the Brisbane Airport runway system.

BAC Property Development Manager, Mark Wallis, said Hellmann’s decision to locate on Airport is an important achievement for Airport community, adding significant impetus to the growing cluster of cargo organisations operating in Australia’s most northern 24-hour international airport.

“Brisbane Airport offers significant natural and strategic advantages for companies like Hellmann, and their decision to locate here is vindication of these advantages, and a major coup for Brisbane,” Mr Wallis said.

“With Brisbane Airport’s curfew-free status, our comprehensive network of international and domestic air connections, and our location on the major north-south road system, the business case was compelling, and we hope it will be the beginning of a long and productive partnership.

“The decision demonstrates the value attributed by the logistics industry to the growing development precinct of Export Park and the advantages of being located near the Cargo Terminal Operators to ensure that they can meet the latest cut-off times for delivery,” Mr Wallis said.

Hellmann Worldwide Logistics Australian Managing Director, Ray Vella, said Hellmann was attracted not just by the strategic advantages of the Brisbane Airport location, but also by the opportunity to become part of a growing airport community.

“There are obvious and immediate business advantages in the deal we have struck with BAC, such as lower cost of operations, the proximity to our key suppliers, and having a modern, efficient and purpose built facility which can accommodate future growth,” Mr Vella said.

“However, there are other less tangible and longer-term benefits in establishing a presence in what is an emerging hub for our industry, and we are confident that these advantages will deliver significant benefits to our company, our people, our suppliers and of course our customers.”

Construction on the facility has commenced, including earthworks and site preparation on the site on Brisbane Airport’s Qantas Drive. Construction is due to finish early February 2005.

Founded in 1871 by Carl Heinrich Hellmann in Osnabrueck, northern Germany, Hellmann Worldwide Logistics started as a one-man business delivering parcels with a horse-drawn cart.

Today, Hellmann operates across 134 countries and 341 cities, with over 6000 employees and a turnover of more than $1.5 billion U.S. dollars.
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jt

Macca-GC
September 11th, 2004, 03:10 PM
There is hardly enough space as it is to extend the current runway at Coolangatta, let alone build a parallel runway.

You're joking. There's heaps of room for the extension. And for the parrallel runway, they can build it on the Cobaki Broadwater.

JayT
September 12th, 2004, 11:31 AM
You're joking. There's heaps of room for the extension. And for the parrallel runway, they can build it on the Cobaki Broadwater.

Yeah - the greenies would love that!!!

jt

Macca-GC
September 13th, 2004, 10:43 AM
Yeah - the greenies would love that!!!

jt

Greenies drive me absolutely insane. I'm on an advisory board for the Gold Coast City Council, and the Greenies are such idiots. No matter what you do, you just can't win. And besides, it's Commonwealth land.

TOCC
September 14th, 2004, 11:11 AM
His quite right, it would be political suicide to try and build on that land, especially when the argument stands that theres a extremely functional international airport only a hour away.
In terms on International flights thats hardly anything.

Macca-GC
September 14th, 2004, 11:22 AM
Yeah, I know. It'll never happen. But I can always dream, can't I?

But I think the runway extension should definately happen. We NEED those direct flights from Asia.

madmax
October 4th, 2004, 07:03 AM
A nice aerial of the domestic terminal:

http://www.airliners.net/photos/big/4/2/3/681324.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/681324/L/

JayT
October 4th, 2004, 07:15 AM
Cool aerial - did you know its nearly 1km from one end to the other!!! I know as My sister recently flew Qantas from Melbourne and 10 minutes later I had to meet my Brother at Virgin on the other side of the terminal. The Main building is approximately 800m long - add the terminals and you have 1km.

jt

KrYpNoTiC
October 4th, 2004, 03:02 PM
What is the full pax capacity at BNE?

JayT
October 5th, 2004, 12:29 AM
What is the full pax capacity at BNE?
Currently - not sure exactly, probably around 13-15 million people per year. It is expected to grow to around 30 million by 2020.

jt

madmax
October 5th, 2004, 07:45 AM
http://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?Id=2167

Air Paradise to Brisbane
Queensland Capital Brings to 5 the Number of Australian Ports Served by Bali Air Carrier.

Bali News: Air Paradise to Brisbane
(10/4/2004) Air Paradise Internationals business to Australia is growing again.

Commencing December 2, 2004, Air Paradise will start a twice-weekly service on Thursdays and Sundays from Brisbane to Bali.

Departures from Brisbane on days of operation will be at 10:00 a.m. touching down in Bali at 13:10 in the afternoon.

Air Paradise International already operates services between Bali and Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.

Blend
October 5th, 2004, 08:45 AM
lol. new airlines are coming constantly :P

JayT
October 14th, 2004, 01:29 AM
01/10/2004 - Brisbane Airport on track to smash passenger record


Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) has forecast a bumper finish to 2004 with passenger numbers for the year expected to top 15 million for the first time.

Tourism Minister Margaret Keech said more than two million additional international and domestic passengers were expected through Brisbane Airport this year compared to 2003.

“This is fantastic news for the tourism industry and a clear demonstration that the airline industry has recovered strongly,’’ Mrs Keech said.

September highlights included:
• The third month in a row in which more 300,000 passengers passed through the International Terminal

• Three of the busiest days ever at the International Terminal for passenger movement - September 17 (12,185 passengers), September 18 (13,014 passengers), September 25 (12,226 passengers)

• New record for passengers departing the International Terminal in a single day set at 6518 (September 18)

• Record September for domestic (13 per cent) and international (23 per cent) passengers compared to September 2003.

BAC Managing Director and CEO Koen Rooijmans said Brisbane was Australia’s best performing airport in terms of international and domestic passenger growth.

“BAC continues to work closely with the State Government and our industry partners to position Brisbane as Australia’s premier gateway for business and tourism.. Through these types of partnerships, we are building a gateway not just for the fastest growing city, but a much wider region we call Greater Brisbane,” Rooijmans said.


Further information:
Jim Carden, Corporate Relations Manager BAC 0413 120 341

http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=MediaReleases

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jt

Malt
January 5th, 2005, 06:51 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1274949.htm

Record year prompts Brisbane Airport upgrade
Plans to upgrade the Brisbane Airport have been brought forward following record passenger numbers in 2004.

For the first time in the airport's history, more than 15 million people have used the terminal, with numbers peaking in December.

Brisbane Airport Corporation spokesman Jim Carden says over $1 billion will be spent this year upgrading the terminal, runways and surrounding roads.

"The last two years, and especially in the last year, we've seen numbers grow by approximately 20 per cent, which is a significant number and is really bringing in a lot of new tourists and investment dollars into Queensland," he said.

"Which is why we'll bring forward some major construction projects to accommodate that growth well into the future."

Dale
January 5th, 2005, 07:00 AM
We're having the same happy problem in Orlando.

Good for Brizzy !

Malt
January 5th, 2005, 08:03 AM
http://www.bne.com.au/content/mediapopup.asp?name=Media_22_12_2004

[i]
22/12/2004 - BNE record: 15 million passengers in a year

A record-breaking year has been topped at Brisbane Airport this week with total passenger numbers for the year surging past the 15 million mark for the first time ever. Unprecedented numbers of Christmas travellers also look set to smash the record for the busiest month ever, delivering a major economic boost to Brisbane and South East Queensland.

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) Corporate Relations Manager Jim Carden said new benchmark was a result of a sustained boom in both domestic and international travel in 2004, as well as the injection of new airlines and new competition operating with higher aircraft load factors.

“More planes, carrying more people to and from more places have delivered a sensational Christmas present to the Queensland tourism industry,” Mr Carden said. “Brisbane Airport has never been this busy – even the taxis are struggling to keep up with demand. Christmas is always busy, but this year is unprecedented. Indicative figures show December 2004 is likely to easily be the Airport’s biggest month, eclipsing the record set in July this year.”

During July 2004 monthly domestic figures peaked at 1.042 million, while international travellers soared to 313,892. Research conducted by Tourism and Transport Forum Australia (TTF Australia) shows the average interstate visitor to Queensland spends $933. The average international passenger spend is $1277 per visit.

Mr Carden said BAC was anticipating a 20 per cent increase in international passengers and a 13 per cent rise in domestic passengers through Brisbane Airport this year compared to 2003.

“Air travel in Australia has never been so affordable and convenient, and Brisbane really benefited from the injection of competition on domestic and – increasingly – international routes, such as New Zealand. Travellers are the real winners at a time of year when so many more are able to spend the holidays with family and friends,’’ Mr Carden said.

“It is also a fantastic Christmas gift for Greater Brisbane’s tourism industry, and highlights the role aviation plays in stimulating travel and tourism, and driving regional prosperity.” BAC advises travellers to anticipate busier road traffic over the busy Christmas period, plan their journey to the airport, and arrive with plenty of time to allow for check-in and security processes.
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A very good thing. lol Dale @ "Happy Problem"

Wezza
January 5th, 2005, 09:09 AM
Very good news!! :) I wonder whether the upgrade will include an expansion of the domestic terminal? The common user area certainly needs expanding!

Gertzy
January 5th, 2005, 10:12 AM
Wow, thats great, The 2003 figure according to Airliner World Magazine were around the 12.5-13mil mark so thats quite an impressive jump.

Wezza
January 5th, 2005, 11:31 AM
Was speaking with someone earlier who works for one of the airlines operating out of BNE. He was saying that the expansion is likely to include completely seperate arrivals & departures levels for the domestic terminal. Hope this is true.

BrizzyChris
January 6th, 2005, 01:45 AM
I know some months at the International Terminal have seen over 30% growth this year.

Lightning~Bolt
January 6th, 2005, 09:24 AM
thanks to cheap airfares, jetstar, virgin, everyone can fly

Orfeo
January 6th, 2005, 10:57 AM
^
True for the domestic market but the big growth area has been the international side of it and Brisbane is yet to see those really cheap flights across more than a few destionations. Hopefully soon.

Lightning~Bolt
January 7th, 2005, 10:50 AM
^
True for the domestic market but the big growth area has been the international side of it and Brisbane is yet to see those really cheap flights across more than a few destionations. Hopefully soon.

some of those jetstar flights go to more than one place in qld dont they? Cairns or something?

Malt
January 7th, 2005, 11:21 AM
how long will it be before we actually see/hear some proposals for the upgrades (In peoples own opinions)?

Gertzy
January 7th, 2005, 02:17 PM
I reckon probably somewhere between this year and next year, my opinion anyway.

Macca-GC
January 11th, 2005, 04:14 AM
news (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=25085)

Qld govt reviewing airport stake
08:40 AEDT Tue Jan 11 2005


The Queensland government is reviewing its sizeable stake in the privately-owned Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC), believed to be worth up to $500 million.

The state government has commissioned investment bank ABN Amro to review its 37.86 per cent ownership of the BAC, which it purchased through the state owned Port of Brisbane Corporation in 1997.

A spokesman for Treasurer Terry Mackenroth denied media reports on Monday the government was considering selling its stake - valued at $361.1 million by the port authority in 2003/04.

However, some analysts have priced the stake closer to the $500 million mark.

State opposition leader Lawrence Springborg on Monday encouraged the government to sell its lucrative holding, arguing the sale could lead to a 100 per cent return on the $250 million invested by taxpayers under former Nationals premier Rob Borbidge eight years ago.

"Preliminary predictions indicate that the share could be sold for in excess of $500 million," Mr Springborg said in a statement.






"That's double the investment. That's a magnificent return for taxpayers. That is money that can be ploughed into new roads, new water storage facilities, schools and hospitals."

But the treasurer's spokesman said the ABN Amro review, due to be delivered in two weeks, was merely a regular study and did not signal any move to sell the asset.

"We will have a look at that report, consider any recommendations it makes and move on from there," he said.

"There is no specific plan or anything like that to sell it."

The privately-owned airport is considered a valuable investment with market speculation rife over a possible future public listing.

In 2004, the airport serviced a record number of more than 15 million passengers and just a week into 2005, recorded its busiest seven days ever with passengers up 21 per cent on the same period last year.

In its annual report for 2003/04, the company recorded a turnaround in net profit of $17.7 million - up from a $25.5 million loss previously - and valued its total assets at $1.6 billion.

BAC corporate relations manager Jim Carden said the company was unperturbed by the state's review, describing it as "a pretty regular exercise".

He said while market speculation over a possible listing remained rife, there were no plans to float this year.

"We have had a lot of unsolicited advice about floating and those sort of things, but it is not something on the cards this year," Mr Carden said.

Instead, BAC would focus on its $1.2 billion development program, which includes the building of a new runway as well as the expansion of both the domestic and international terminals and the airport's road system.

Brisbane City Council last month converted its 1.3 per cent share of BAC into convertible notes, giving it 8,687,396 ordinary shares and 5,994,200 redeemable preference shares.

Orfeo
January 11th, 2005, 04:19 AM
In 2004, the airport serviced a record number of more than 15 million passengers and just a week into 2005, recorded its busiest seven days ever with passengers up 21 per cent on the same period last year.


That sounds quite promising for continued growth.

JayT
January 12th, 2005, 07:13 AM
Oh there was something about another new airline I saw on tv a few weeks ago - air paradise from Bali. They had those fire hoses out for its first touchdown.

jt

JayT
January 12th, 2005, 08:23 AM
thanks to cheap airfares, jetstar, virgin, everyone can fly

LOL - anyone who has the time.

15 million is a great achievement. They should also do something about the connection roads as they are saturated during peak times. I still hate that roundabout in Hendra with the Gateway flyover. They need to build more roads in and out like extending Toombul road to the international roundabout or something.
jt

Lightning~Bolt
January 17th, 2005, 04:44 AM
never been to the brisbane airport, how far away is it from the CBD?

NCC1701D
January 17th, 2005, 05:02 AM
never been to the brisbane airport, how far away is it from the CBD?
The Domestic is 13km away and the International about 11km away (as the crow flies).

Malt
January 17th, 2005, 08:47 AM
Easy transport from the airport into the city on the Airtrain.

Maroon Grown
January 17th, 2005, 11:30 AM
LOL - anyone who has the time.

They should also do something about the connection roads as they are saturated during peak times. I still hate that roundabout in Hendra with the Gateway flyover. They need to build more roads in and out like extending Toombul road to the international roundabout or something.
jt


jt,

do you know about the planned gateway reallignment where they are sending the gateway over the airport land and building a massive interchange with airport drive. incase you dont know, the reallignment starts at the bridge and rejoins with the existing mwy near toombul rd. i dont know whats happening with the old mwy. :dunno:

JayT
January 19th, 2005, 08:53 AM
jt,

do you know about the planned gateway reallignment where they are sending the gateway over the airport land and building a massive interchange with airport drive. incase you dont know, the reallignment starts at the bridge and rejoins with the existing mwy near toombul rd. i dont know whats happening with the old mwy. :dunno:
I have seen renderings of it on the Brisbane Airport website. They really should iron out all the kinks in the gatway and widen it at the same time - its one of those roads I avoid - that and the Ipswich Motorway.

Also found this:
Airbus: the future is landing>

Brisbane Airport is gearing up for the new
generation of aircraft, which will be in
Australian skies by 2006. Around $10
million of works will soon commence to
widen the shoulders of the existing
runway, install new "double decker"
aerobridges and expand terminal facilities
to accommodate the 550 passengers per
flight on the flagship Airbus A380.


Building booms at BAC
Brisbane Airport will be one of the
State's busiest builders over the next
decade, with around $2 billion in
construction works creating hundreds
of jobs in a range of aviation,
aerospace, leisure, retail and tourism
activity. Airport Executive Planner
Mark Willey last week told the
Department of State Development's
annual Major Projects Conference the
single biggest project will be the new
runway, scheduled for use by 2012.

jt

Malt
January 19th, 2005, 11:10 AM
the Virgin Blue giant airport maintenance facility began construction a few days ago

Gertzy
January 20th, 2005, 01:53 AM
I was watching Ten late news last night and they had a report on The A380 (Formerly known as the A3XX), and it was talking about how brisbane was the only airport to accomodate the Aircraft.

Me_Simon
January 20th, 2005, 02:05 AM
I was watching Ten late news last night and they had a report on The A380 (Formerly known as the A3XX), and it was talking about how brisbane was the only airport to accomodate the Aircraft.


hooray for brisbane....and they also said that sydney and melbourne are hurrying to upgrade their runways as well :)

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Dean
January 20th, 2005, 03:22 AM
actually no airport is currently able to accomodate the A380 atm. All runways need to be widend by up to 15m and also modified to carry the extra payload. Also the airbus is much higher than a standard 747-400 jumbo and requires a twin level gate/skybridge system which currently no airport in Australia has.

It has been quoted that Melbourne will be the first to do that with construction about to start and finished by midyear.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne

JayT
January 20th, 2005, 07:16 AM
I was watching Ten late news last night and they had a report on The A380 (Formerly known as the A3XX), and it was talking about how brisbane was the only airport to accomodate the Aircraft.

There are renderings of the new aerobridges in todays City News. They are being specially designed to take the new A380s or up to two smaller aircraft. They look quite good.

From the City News. (not all)

$1.2 Billion Investment

Brisbane Airport Corpoeration (BAC) has embarked on a $1.2 Billion upgrade of the airport to cater for record passenger growth and industry development. Plans include duplicating the existing runway (to three) expanding the international and domestic terminals and developing and upgrading road infrastructure.

The first stages of the development will prepare the airport for the introduction of the A380 aircraft in early 2006

jt

Wezza
January 20th, 2005, 09:11 AM
actually no airport is currently able to accomodate the A380 atm. All runways need to be widend by up to 15m and also modified to carry the extra payload. Also the airbus is much higher than a standard 747-400 jumbo and requires a twin level gate/skybridge system which currently no airport in Australia has.

It has been quoted that Melbourne will be the first to do that with construction about to start and finished by midyear.

Cheers

Dean - Melbourne
The A380 doesn't require a twin level aerobridge. It can be loaded and unloaded using existing aerobridges, just through the lower level. They're just installing the twin level aerobridges to speed up loading & unloading the aircraft.

Malt
January 20th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Yes, Brisbane airport can accomodate them... but when melbourne and sydney finish upgrading it would make brisbanes capability look week. So logically brisbane would upgrade as well.

Gertzy
January 21st, 2005, 01:34 AM
Infact how long is the runway at BNE.

Orfeo
January 21st, 2005, 01:48 AM
Brisbane's 1/19 runway is 11483ft, 19/1 is 11679ft and 14/32 5774ft.

Maroon Grown
January 21st, 2005, 03:13 AM
how the hell do you know that.

Gertzy
January 21st, 2005, 06:00 AM
Thanks Orfeo, but do you have it in Metres, I'm not that great on converting feet to metres, but however I know thats somewhere over 3000m right or 3km etc.

Malt
January 21st, 2005, 06:05 AM
11483 feet = 3.5000184 kilometer

11697 feet = 3.5652456 kilometer

5774 feet = 1.7599152 kilometer

Gertzy
January 21st, 2005, 06:12 AM
Okay so 3500m, thanks again Malt.

Malt
January 25th, 2005, 03:02 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1288967.htm


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200407/r26297_65130.jpg
Flights delayed: Passengers may be diverted to the Gold Coast Airport. [File photo] (ABC TV)


Runway mishap causes Brisbane Airport chaos
serives are returning to normal at the Brisbane Airport after a cargo plane ran off the main runway while landing this afternoon.

The 727 heavy-lift freight liner skidded off the runway into grass shortly after 4:00pm AEST.

The aircraft was empty and no-one was injured in the accident.

An airport spokesman says early investigations suggest there may have been a steering malfunction.

The plane blocked the main runway and most domestic and international flights could not land.

The flights were redirected to the Gold Coast, sent back to their original destinations or delayed.

People collecting passengers or taking people to the airport are advised to phone ahead to check flight times.



Operations resume at Brisbane Airport
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200501/s1289079.htm

Operations resume at Brisbane Airport
Services at the Brisbane Airport are back to normal after an accident on the main runway disrupted domestic and international flights this afternoon.

A heavy-lift cargo plane skidded off the tarmac, preventing other aircraft from landing and taking off for several hours.

The pilot was not hurt.

Brisbane Airport spokesman Jim Carden says a steering malfunction may have been the cause, but investigations are continuing.

"We have re-opened operations on the main runway having cleared the 727 and taken it to a distant part of the airport for an investigation tomorrow," he said.

Malt
January 25th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Apparantly they put a great deal of emphasis on the importance of the investigation!
They didnt remove it for ages probably so they could see what happened exactly?

I wonder how much money this cost them. It would have pissed a hell of alot of people off.

Macca-GC
January 26th, 2005, 05:04 AM
It would have been bloody hard to move. It was bogged in the rain.

tayser
January 26th, 2005, 07:23 AM
merged 3 threads.

Malt
January 28th, 2005, 08:25 AM
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Business/Brisbane-Airport-Corp-on-growth-runways/2005/01/28/1106850082942.html?oneclick=true

Brisbane Airport Corp on growth runway
January 28, 2005 - 11:44AM


Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) has continued its double digit growth with a 14 per cent lift in earnings for the December 2004 quarter.

The increase has delivered BAC a second quarter revenue of $30.7 million, up from $26.7 million for the same quarter in the previous year.

BAC chief executive Koen Rooijmans said the corporation was forecasting continued double digit growth into 2005, building on the significant 2003/04 performance.

"While the growth rate is down on our first quarter, it has to be taken in context that our first quarter performance was exceptional," Mr Rooijmans said.

BAC said net profit, before tax and shareholder distributions, for the quarter was $9.26 million, up from $5.77 million.

BAC posted an overall 21 per cent increase in earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) in the first half of $61 million, up from $50.4 million in the same period of the previous year, .

Turnover for the half year to date was up 23 per cent on the previous year.

Mr Rooijmans said that with new additional airline services expected this year both international and domestic passenger numbers will continue to perform strongly.

International passengers through Brisbane Airport grew by 18.8 per cent and domestic passengers rose 7.3 per cent on the previous December quarter.

There was strong domestic growth from Virgin Blue and Jetstar and from new international airlines Emirates, China Airlines and Pacific Blue.

Malt
January 28th, 2005, 08:39 AM
Renewed call for parallel runway
Natalie Gregg
27jan05
AIRPORT delays caused after a cargo plane slewed off the runway would have been avoided if Brisbane Airport had two main runways, an airport spokesman said yesterday.



Brisbane Airport Corporation corporate relations manager Jim Carden said the commuter chaos caused by the HeavyLift Australia Boeing 727 freighter skidding off the main runway on Tuesday highlighted the need for second major runway.

The corporation has proposed building a second parallel runway for some time, and yesterday's call reignited debate on the issue.

The corporation has faced opposition from local community groups who claim it would be too noisy and would adversely affect the environment.









Local federal MPs Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan and Brisbane City Council Northgate ward councillor Kim Flesser also have reservations about the runway masterplan. Mr Rudd initially took court action to stop the plan but was unsuccessful.

Mr Carden said the Brisbane Airport Corporation planned to release new runway designs at the end of the year.

He said the corporation would undertake environmental and social impact studies and release the plans for public consultation.

"After a 90-day consultation we will lodge the plans to the Federal Government," he said.

"We think we will need the second runway by 2011 or 2012."

Mr Carden said the second runway would improve efficiency and cut costs incurred by unexpected delays.

"The amount of passengers will triple in the next 20 years, but the number of aircrafts will only double at the most because planes are getting bigger," he said.

He said the proposed runway would be 2km from the main strip, which would allow two planes to take off or land simultaneously.

Cr Flesser yesterday repeated his objection to the 2km gap, and is lobbying for the distance to be reduced to 1535m – the minimum allowable under international aviation rules.

"The extra 500m is a better buffer for residents living in Banyo, Nudgee, Northgate, Nundah and Hendra," he said.

Brisbane Region Environment Council co-ordinator Michael Petter said he was disappointed the runway would go ahead and said now the masterplan was approved community concerns would not be considered.

"It's a tragedy that they will push ahead with the plan, which will clear that land on the southern side of Kedron Brook," Mr Petter said. "Eventually, air traffic over Brisbane will start to compare with the aircraft noise at Sydney Airport."

He said the runway would also put pressure on the Boondall Wetlands and wildlife.

"It's not going to help the ecology of Moreton Bay," he said.

Mr Carden estimated the cost of the second runway would be about $500 million and it would take five to six years to build.

He said the corporation had had the location, concept and rationale for the new runway for about 20 years. It owned a 3000ha area, which would easily accommodate the second runway.

ShayPlan
January 29th, 2005, 08:09 AM
This keeps on getting published but WHEN will BNE get a parallel runway? It has the largest land area of any Australian Airport, and the closest capital city to North America! I am an avid believer that BNE will become Australia's busiest airport in about 20 to 30 years. There is space adjacent to the terminals and if need be can build (another) cross-wind runway on the bay's shore...

Orfeo
January 29th, 2005, 09:14 AM
^
Soon. The article says that the plans will be released 'later in the year' but from what I've heard it will be march. A few months public consultation (again) and then construction....

Malt
February 4th, 2005, 04:22 AM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=3587

Brisbane airport development to go ahead
19:33 AEDT Thu Feb 3 2005


A massive shopping centre, golf course and hotel development at Brisbane airport is set to go ahead after the Federal Court overruled objections from two developers.

Shopping centre developer Westfield and another development company, Centra, brought the legal action against the Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) and the federal government.

They alleged proposals for the development on the old airport site in suburban Brisbane were illegal under the Federal Airports Act.

Both developers have interests in nearby shopping centres.

But in the Federal Court in Brisbane on Thursday Justice Richard Cooper dismissed all the objections to the development and said the plans were valid.

Outside the court, BAC managing director and CEO Koen Rooijmans welcomed the decision and said it would affect airports across Australia.




"Airports are now becoming cities in their own right," Mr Rooijmans said.

"More than a place to catch planes, the modern airport is a dynamic community that is a primary engine room for its region."

Mr Rooijmans said the decision was good news for other Australian airports which had been following the case closely and had tens of millions of dollars in investment at stake.

He said the first approved project at the development on Airport Drive, a direct factory outlet with more than 130 brand outlets, was expected to open in September.

He said stage two of the development would probably go ahead in about six years and include hotels and a golf course, as well as restaurants and cafes, corporate offices, a homemaker centre, child minding and convenience retail stores.

Westfield would not comment on the decision.

Shopping Centre Council of Australia executive director Milton Cockburn said the decision reinforced the unfair advantage which the Airports Act gave private airport operators in developing what was effectively public land.

He said the land was owned by the government, but controlled by a private company under a 99-year lease.

"The Shopping Centre Council objective has never been to stop these companies developing airport land for non-aviation purposes (but they) should be subject to the same planning and development approval processes as all other private developers," Mr Cockburn said.

Malt
February 4th, 2005, 04:28 AM
Airport ruling raises ire of shopping centre group
Friday, 4 February 2005

The Shopping Centre Council of Australia claims a Federal Court ruling in Brisbane has given airports an unfair advantage over other retail outlets.

Justice Richard Cooper has ruled the Brisbane Airport's development of a shopping precinct on its land is not a breach of the Federal Airports Act.

The Shopping Centre Council executive director, Milton Cockburn, says retailers simply want a level playing field.

"When it comes to non-aviated related development, building what in effect is a shopping centre at Brisbane, our view is that they should be put in the same basket as a private shopping centre developer," he said.

"They should be required to lodge with the local council a development approval."

The Liberal councillor for the Brisbane city ward of Hamilton, Tim Nichols, says the court decision clears the way for the airport to become the hub of employment growth in the city for the next 20 years.

"We will see 130 new direct factory outlets being built and it will mean jobs for local people, it will mean jobs for people across the city and it will increase Brisbane and Queensland as a tourist destination," he said.

"So I think it is all good news, it will be managed well and we really should have got on board a lot sooner and I welcome the decision."

Malt
February 9th, 2005, 07:48 AM
http://www.crikey.com.au/business/2005/02/09-0001.html


Westfield loses Brisbane Airport action

Subscriber email - 3 February

Frank Lowy's Westfield received a huge slap in the face in the Federal Court today with the decision to reject their action against the Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) and Federal Minister for Transport, John Anderson.

If successful, Lowy would have prevented BAC from developing Airport Drive into an integrated Airport/leisure zone in a similar manner to highly-successful international airports such as Amsterdam’s Schiphol.

Westfield has waged an aggressive two and a half year campaign against the BAC with former SMH editor and Olympics spinning boss, Milton Cockburn, leading the charge through that well known Westfield front called the Shopping Centre Council of Australia.

Milton's big spin was that Brisbane does not need another "major shopping centre" when what is proposed is nothing like that. Justice Cooper was very dismissive in his 60 page judgment today and is now determining the millions in costs that Westfield will probably have to fork out.

It will be interesting to see if Westfield and Lowy decide to appeal and further aggravate the deputy PM and a major company partly owned by the Queensland Government. Who can forget the Orange Grove saga in western Sydney where all those huge Westfield donations to Labor are perceived by some to have caused the Carr Government to intervene

The first approved project in the Airport Drive precinct is a purpose built Direct Factory Outlet, which will house more than 130 brand outlets under one roof.

Other possibilities for the precinct include a homemaker centre, golf course, convenience retail stores, child-care, health and fitness facilities, restaurants, cafes and hotels, corporate offices and car parking.

The sort of shops and service consumers would expect to find in one of Lowy’s own Westfield Shopping Centres which are dotted all over Australia's major cities, including Brisbane.

BAC recently reaffirmed its position as Australia’s fastest growing airport with 23 per cent growth for the half year to date. International passengers through Brisbane Airport grew by 18.8 per cent (24.6 per cent YTD) and domestic passengers grew 7.3 per cent (11.5 per cent YTD) on the previous December quarter. This year more than 15 million passengers passed through the Airport.


Milton Cockburn on the unfair Airports Act


Subscriber email - 4 February

Millionaire shopping centre lobbyist and former SMH editor Milton Cockburn writes:

Congratulations on becoming a "millionaire publisher". Those of us green with envy at least have some satisfaction in knowing that Eric Beecher (my editor in the early 80s) will not allow nonsense such as the comment yesterday about the Brisbane Airport decision to appear without checking first.

(I have the highest regard for Eric - undoubtedly the most decent and talented individual I've ever come across in newspapers. You've chosen an excellent owner.)

The Shopping Centre Council (18 members, of which Westfield is but one) has never said Brisbane doesn't need another shopping centre. That's an unlikely comment from a body representing shopping centre owners!

All we've sought is that the unfair advantage, which the Airports Act gives to private airport companies, when it comes to commercial developments is removed. The private airport companies should be subject to the same planning and development approval processes for commercial developments as every other private developer.

Regards
Milton Cockburn
Executive Director
Shopping Centre Council of Australia

Wezza
February 9th, 2005, 09:02 AM
Woohoo!! Factory outlets galore!! :) Should b good.

JayT
February 18th, 2005, 06:28 AM
There is an interesting article in today's Courier Mail about the second runway. There is now someone appointed to oversee its construction. Its a very long article.
The article is full of interesting info such as:

BNE will become Australia's second busiest airport and is currently the fastest growing airport.
The fill needed for construction will come from sand banks out in Moreton Bay working 24/7. If not more than 2000 trucks a day will cart fill into the site!!!
There is also a construction timeline. (sorry have not got the article in front of me at present.)

Lots of other info to - though nothing yet on the BNE site.

The article also said that both the Domestic and International terminals are about to be extended with major road deviations and works at the Domestic Terminal.

BTW - has anyone seen those massive car parks under construction :eek2:
jt

Orfeo
February 18th, 2005, 07:22 AM
^
:) Will overtake Melbourne? It only says 'expects to overtake Melbourne'

4.9 million is a significant amount and even if growth continous at a simlar pace (and it surely wont) it would take until the 2020's to get close.

The timeline is -

march: 2nd runway plan submitted to federal authorties, then an environmental imapct study will be launched
June, 2006: environmental impact study completed, begin delivering sand
June, 2007: delivery of sand complete, construction begins.
June, 2008-2009: 2nd runway completed

BrizzyChris
February 19th, 2005, 12:26 AM
And then another 2yrs till operation?? The website says it will open in 2011.

I think it is inevitable that BNE will overtake Melbourne, but like Orfeo said, it will still be a good 15-20 years down the track.

Orfeo
February 19th, 2005, 03:17 AM
^^
The article is a bit confusing....it gives the timeline in the form "and then a year later" and "will take another year or tow before"...when you actually add it up it goes to somewhere between late 2008 and early 2010, but then says that the corporation wants it done by 2011. I get the impression that they actually want it completed and opened a bit earlier...their spokesperson says:

The runway - 2km west of the existing one but further to the north and running right to the edge of the bay - may be required earlier.

Based on annual aircraft movements, the existing runway will reach capacity around 2011-2012. But airports have peak periods, which in Brisbane are in the early morning and late afternoon. If the peak demand is taken into account, the second runway will probably be required by 2009.

KIWIKAAS
February 22nd, 2005, 12:15 AM
What's confusing? The capacity level (based on the average number of movements) will be reached at 2011-12. But because of the peak periods (ie.6-9am and 4-7pm) a second runway would be desirable by 2009 to keep the airport running efficiently.

Gertzy
February 22nd, 2005, 09:53 AM
You don't know, it could happen in 2 yrs.

Orfeo
February 23rd, 2005, 07:25 AM
What's confusing? The capacity level (based on the average number of movements) will be reached at 2011-12. But because of the peak periods (ie.6-9am and 4-7pm) a second runway would be desirable by 2009 to keep the airport running efficiently.

While your explaination is quite nice, It isn't exactly helpful...

It doesn't explain why in the article they say the runway wont be opened until 2011, then give a timetable that doesn't add up to that date. Which, if you read my post, is the bit I'm wondering about - I came up with theory that they might want to build it earlier and used the quote from the article for justification....

maybe the journalist got the timeline wrong.. or maybe they can't add. It doesn't really matter - I would just like to know when it will open.

Macca-GC
February 23rd, 2005, 11:49 AM
why??? It'll be a runway almost 3Km long, built to a standard that it could facilitate the A380, built on mangrove land, which would easily be at threat from flooding, should a major storm hit. The amount of landfill alone would be enormous, and would take quite a while to move, and then settle, and only then can construction of the actual runway commence. And lets not forget that this runway is going right up next to the Bay. That wall will need alot of stabilisation. That will take a while.

Wezza
February 23rd, 2005, 01:59 PM
I think it's highly possible that the new runway will be over 3km long. The main runway now is 3.6km long. I'm not saying that it will be longer, but i'd bet it's going to be over 3km at least. :)

Orfeo
February 24th, 2005, 02:41 AM
why??? It'll be a runway almost 3Km long, built to a standard that it could facilitate the A380, built on mangrove land, which would easily be at threat from flooding, should a major storm hit. The amount of landfill alone would be enormous, and would take quite a while to move, and then settle, and only then can construction of the actual runway commence. And lets not forget that this runway is going right up next to the Bay. That wall will need alot of stabilisation. That will take a while.

If you looked at the timeline, you'll see that they say it will take a year to put the sand from the Bay in place and then 1-2 years to construct the actual runway.

Macca-GC
February 24th, 2005, 10:35 AM
Yes. Think about how slow dredgeing is. Then they have to prepare the site. And there would be lets say, 10Km of runway and taxiways,

Orfeo
February 25th, 2005, 03:32 AM
Jobs up in the air if runway not built (http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,12360585%255E3102,00.html)

FAILURE to build a new runway for Brisbane airport would strip more than $2 billion and 44,500 jobs from the southeast Queensland regional economy within 20 years, State Parliament has been told.

Over a 12-year period, the economic losses from delaying the construction would total $22 billion.

State Development Minister Tony McGrady said passenger and freight movements were projected to grow significantly in coming years, and the capacity of the existing runway would be reached between 2010 and 2012, when annual aircraft movements reach 200,000.

Failure to add a new runway would restrict economic activity in the region, and stymie job creation, Mr McGrady said.

The second runway has been earmarked on the Brisbane Airport Corporation's masterplan, but before it can be built the corporation needs to demonstrate the demand and examine the potential impact on the environment and houses under the flight path.

A report prepared for the BAC by consultants SGS Economics and Planning as part of the masterplan has projected the airport would contribute, directly and indirectly, to the employment of more than 188,900 people in southeast Queensland by 2023, if it is allowed to grow unconstrained.

But if the second runway is not built, the employment number would fall to just 144,400.

"If aviation capacity was not expanded in 2011 as planned, this would result in an estimated loss of regional employment of around 44,500 jobs in 2023, compared with the situation where the runway is constructed," the BAC report says.

With a new runway, the airport would contribute $17.2 billion to the regional economy by 2023, compared with $15.1 billion with no development.

"From 2011 – when capacity at Brisbane Airport is reached – to 2023, the year-on-year losses would total an estimated $22 billion in nominal terms over that period."

Mr McGrady said passenger numbers at the airport were projected to grow from 22.2 million in 2012 to more than 35 million in 2023.

"And Brisbane Airport Corporation says these predictions could be conservative, particularly for international travel, as discussions with airlines show they are expecting double-digit growth through Brisbane for the next three to four years," he said.

Mr McGrady has also flagged State Government support to dredge 15 million tonnes of sand from Moreton Bay to provide for the construction of the new airport.

The BAC has proposed taking the sand and gravel from the Bay, saying it would avoid the need for around one million truck movements.

The issue has been referred to Cabinet for a decision.

BAC spokesman Jim Carden said the corporation had begun the process of lobbying the three levels of government for support for the runway duplication, and a formal submission would go to the Federal Government within four to six weeks to begin the environmental impact study process.

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If you want to see how stupid some ministers are, go here (http://www.kntimes.com/045/insider035-more-BRISBANE+AIRPORT+FAST+CATCHING-knc-37-kni-221.html)...

New passenger figures released in state parliament today show Brisbane's annual passenger numbers are expected to grow from 15 million in 2004 to 22.2 million by 2012 and more than 35 million by 2023.

State Innovation Minister Tony McGrady said Brisbane would soon pass Melbourne as the nation's second busiest airport. "Brisbane Airport will match Melbourne Airport's 2005 passenger numbers by next year, and Sydney's 2005 numbers by 2010," Mr McGrady said.

Um....right. The Airport is suddenly going to grow more 5 million (or 33%+) to match Melbourne this year, then will only grow 2 million over the next 6 years to reach the predicted traffic number of 2012? That is less than 1.8% growth anually. Yet, Melbourne will grow less than that since we surpass them by 2006.

Malt
February 25th, 2005, 08:23 AM
http://www.kntimes.com/045/insider035-more-BRISBANE+AIRPORT+FAST+CATCHING-knc-37-kni-221.html

Brisbane Airport is fast catching up with its interstate rivals in Sydney and Melbourne, with passenger numbers expected to more than double by 2023.

New passenger figures released in state parliament today show Brisbane's annual passenger numbers are expected to grow from 15 million in 2004 to 22.2 million by 2012 and more than 35 million by 2023.

Aircraft movements are forecast to grow from 140,000 in 2003 to 198,000 in 2012.

State Innovation Minister Tony McGrady said Brisbane would soon pass Melbourne as the nation's second busiest airport.

.
"Brisbane Airport will match Melbourne Airport's 2005 passenger numbers by next year, and Sydney's 2005 numbers by 2010," Mr McGrady said.

"And Brisbane Airport Corporation says these predictions could be conservative, particularly for international travel, as discussions with airlines show they are expecting double digit growth through Brisbane for the next three to four years."

Brisbane Airport is currently undergoing a $A1.2 billion ($US942.36 million) development program, including a new runway and expansion of the domestic and international terminals and the airport's road system.

It recently received the green light to develop a massive shopping centre, golf course and hotel development after the Federal Court overruled objections by two developers.

The airport, which has three times the land space than Sydney Airport, currently employs about 8,500 people, with that figure expected to rise to 42,500 jobs by 2023.

In addition, Virgin Blue (ASX:VBA) is committed to maintaining its headquarters at the airport until 2010, and has announced plans to construct a $A13 million ($US10.21 million) line maintenance facility. Qantas also intends establishing its 767 heavy maintenance facility in Brisbane.

Meanwhile, Treasurer Terry Mackenroth is yet to receive a report commissioned from ABN Amro reviewing the state government's 37 per cent stake in the airport.

The stake is believed to be worth up to $A500 million ($US392.65 million).

zulu69
February 25th, 2005, 08:41 AM
^Great news for Bris. Certainly growing extremely fast. No doubt is becoming a bigger player.. Its good to see some new rivalry brewing.

Gertzy
February 25th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Paul Lucas is the crapiest, and most idiototic transport minister ever.

KrYpNoTiC
February 25th, 2005, 09:36 AM
I highly doubt Brisbane will ever overtake Melbourne or Sydney. I mean the only really way to overtake melb is if the was a massive explosion in international passengers otherwise theres no chance. Melb has a population of 3.7mil and Bris with 1.7 so theres always gonna be a muh bigger domestic markey through melb. I would like to kno though what Perth pax numbers will be by 2012. I heard Adelaide is meant top top 10mil by 2010-12.

nikko
February 25th, 2005, 10:35 AM
Paul Lucas is the crapiest, and most idiototic transport minister ever.

hehe, that kinda came outta the blue :lol:

Paul's nephew is a mate of mine actually. . .

Macca-GC
February 25th, 2005, 10:54 AM
^your mate has my sympathy.

But I reckon BrisVegas Airport can over take Melbourne. Keep in mind that it services almost 3 million people living in Greater SEQ. I think International flights will start to 'take off':hilarious::hahano:. The reasons being that SEQ is going to see a massive rise in Fly-Cruise passengers who will fly to Cairns and then come down via cruise ships to the Brisbane or proposed GC terminals and will then leave via Brisbane Airport. Also because Brisbane is the closest of the East Coast capitals to the world. It's shorter to America, It's shorter to Asia. I think the Brisbane-Perth domestic route will really start to pick up, because it is a good trans-Australia route. i.e. if you were in Perth and wanted to go to America, you'd go to Brisbane first. If you were from SEQ and wanted to go to Africa, you'd go via Perth.

Melbourne doesn't seem to have these sorts of advantages.

nikko
February 25th, 2005, 10:56 AM
^^^

lol.


But yeah, what ou just said seems justified. QANTAS is planning more Bris-LA routes this year...and the portside cruise terminal will attract airport traffic for sure.

AUboy
February 25th, 2005, 12:15 PM
^^^

lol.


But yeah, what ou just said seems justified. QANTAS is planning more Bris-LA routes this year...and the portside cruise terminal will attract airport traffic for sure.

Source? I don't recall QANTAS ever making this announcement, and I usually keep up to date with aviation news as it was the industry I used to work in.

nikko
February 25th, 2005, 01:14 PM
Source? I don't recall QANTAS ever making this announcement, and I usually keep up to date with aviation news as it was the industry I used to work in.

There was talk of it last year I'm prety sure in the Courier mail. I don't know if it ever came into fuition. I only assumed it did because they were very determined on it (saying it will be good for the economy blah blah blah)

ASIS
February 25th, 2005, 01:15 PM
Paul Lucas is the crapiest, and most idiototic transport minister ever.


I'm going to be watching you, Gertzy. You even spelt Idiotic wrong, I'm putting you on my Conspriacy list.

waustralia
February 25th, 2005, 01:18 PM
Isnt it cheaper to go to America via Sydney. Rather than Brisbane.

Malt
February 25th, 2005, 01:39 PM
I'm going to be watching you, Gertzy. You even spelt Idiotic wrong, I'm putting you on my Conspriacy list.


LOL

ASIS
February 26th, 2005, 02:25 AM
Yes, LOL, judge me and you'll be a conspiritor on my list too.

Malt
February 26th, 2005, 07:52 AM
consider yourself judged

Orfeo
February 26th, 2005, 08:55 AM
Isnt it cheaper to go to America via Sydney. Rather than Brisbane.

Why would it be? It's a shorter distance and Brisbane's airport doesn't have as expensive landing fees.

For reasons unknown I couldn't get one-way prices..."error".

Return, adult economy from Brisbane (http://wftc3.e-travel.com/pl/QFinternational/en/FlexPricerAvailabilityServlet?TIMESTAMP=200502261849&SITE=QFI&PRICING_TYPE=I&DATE_RANGE_QUALIFIER_1=C&DATE_RANGE_VALUE_1=0&DATE_RANGE_QUALIFIER_2=C&DATE_RANGE_VALUE_2=0&DISPLAY_TYPE=1&LANGUAGE=GB&ARRANGE_BY=E&CUSTOMER_TYPE=P&TRIP_TYPE=R&B_LOCATION_1=BNE&E_LOCATION_1=LAX&B_LOCATION_2=LAX&E_LOCATION_2=BNE&B_DATE_1=200503020100&B_DATE_2=200503090100&TRAVELLER_TYPE_1=ADT&PAGE_FROM=/regions/dyn/quickSearch&COMMERCIAL_FARE_FAMILY_1=AUINTECO) non-stop - $1403 (12h to, 14h from)
Return, adult economy from Sydney (http://wftc3.e-travel.com/pl/QFinternational/en/FlexPricerAvailabilityServlet?TIMESTAMP=200502261843&SITE=QFI&PRICING_TYPE=I&DATE_RANGE_QUALIFIER_1=C&DATE_RANGE_VALUE_1=0&DATE_RANGE_QUALIFIER_2=C&DATE_RANGE_VALUE_2=0&DISPLAY_TYPE=1&LANGUAGE=GB&ARRANGE_BY=E&CUSTOMER_TYPE=P&TRIP_TYPE=R&B_LOCATION_1=SYD&E_LOCATION_1=LAX&B_LOCATION_2=LAX&E_LOCATION_2=SYD&B_DATE_1=200503010100&B_DATE_2=200503070100&TRAVELLER_TYPE_1=ADT&PAGE_FROM=/regions/dyn/quickSearch&COMMERCIAL_FARE_FAMILY_1=AUINTECO) non-stop - $1715 (13h 25m to, 14h 30min from)

Obviously cheaper fares are available, but most of the time Brisbane would be cheaper.

I'm not sure if Qantas is planning any new direct flights but if SA does get access to the Oz-North American routes there may be more - I believe there was an article that said that SA would probably start with a Brisbane Melbourne route first....

ASIS
February 26th, 2005, 09:09 AM
I'm keeping an eye on you, Malt.

Malt
February 26th, 2005, 09:17 AM
you go get em tiger

ASIS
February 26th, 2005, 02:51 PM
Fun and Games are over Malt, I'm Gertzy

ASIS
February 26th, 2005, 02:52 PM
Just doing one of my stupid pranks but just Skyscrapercity Based.

maybach
March 1st, 2005, 06:16 AM
But I reckon BrisVegas Airport can over take Melbourne. Keep in mind that it services almost 3 million people living in Greater SEQ. I think International flights will start to 'take off'. The reasons being that SEQ is going to see a massive rise in Fly-Cruise passengers who will fly to Cairns and then come down via cruise ships to the Brisbane or proposed GC terminals and will then leave via Brisbane Airport.

^ Wow!!! That's a lot of cruise ships! Queensland must be more attractive to holidaying retirees than I thought!


Also because Brisbane is the closest of the East Coast capitals to the world. It's shorter to America, It's shorter to Asia. I think the Brisbane-Perth domestic route will really start to pick up, because it is a good trans-Australia route. i.e. if you were in Perth and wanted to go to America, you'd go to Brisbane first. If you were from SEQ and wanted to go to Africa, you'd go via Perth.

Air tickets from Perth to America are still cheaper via Singapore or Sydney due to high volume capacity in those cities. I for one will be flying via Singapore from Perth to LA for its great shopping!

But interesting comments nonetheless. I love Qld's optimism. Oh, If only Melbourne and Sydney would stop being at a stand-still everyone would be happy!

BrizzyChris
March 1st, 2005, 10:16 AM
Oh, no need to be jealous. You've still got taller buildings.

waustralia
March 1st, 2005, 10:21 AM
Also because Brisbane is the closest of the East Coast capitals to the world. It's shorter to America, It's shorter to Asia. I think the Brisbane-Perth domestic route will really start to pick up, because it is a good trans-Australia route. i.e. if you were in Perth and wanted to go to America, you'd go to Brisbane first. If you were from SEQ and wanted to go to Africa, you'd go via Perth.

Aha. I was right. It is cheaper via Sydney than via Brisbane.

Wezza
March 1st, 2005, 11:00 AM
^ Wow!!! That's a lot of cruise ships! Queensland must be more attractive to holidaying retirees than I thought!



Air tickets from Perth to America are still cheaper via Singapore or Sydney due to high volume capacity in those cities. I for one will be flying via Singapore from Perth to LA for its great shopping!

But interesting comments nonetheless. I love Qld's optimism. Oh, If only Melbourne and Sydney would stop being at a stand-still everyone would be happy!
Not everyone has the time to fly via those ports. Has that ever crossed your mind?

Wezza
March 1st, 2005, 12:13 PM
Few-frills carrier promises low fares
By Scott Rochfort
February 28, 2005

Air fares between Sydney and Singapore could tumble by as much as 25 per cent this December, with the Singapore-based budget carrier Valuair planning to introduce flights to the east coast of Australia by Christmas.

The airline began services to Perth two months ago, and now wants to lease long-range aircraft capable of flying to Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne.

Valuair distinguishes itself from typical low-cost airlines by offering free hot meals and more leg room, but through its "value for money" mantra aims to undercut fares offered by competitors such as Qantas and Singapore Airlines.

Valuair's chief executive, Sim Kay Wee, told the Herald: "Because we are a mid-frills airline we are offering fares that are in the region of 25 per cent lower than full-service carriers."

Judging by the advertised fares presently offered by the 10 airlines flying between Sydney and Singapore, a return fare would fall from about $860 to about $650 return (including taxes) if Valuair follows through on its promise.

With Valuair looking to enter the Singapore-to-Sydney route, the second-busiest into Australia, Mr Sim said the airline was also keen to connect Australian passengers onto its other destinations within Asia.

The airline began operations nine months ago and now flies from Singapore to Perth, Hong Kong, Bangkok and Jakarta with its fleet of two Airbus 320s.

It is planning to introduce flights to the Chinese cities of Chengdu and Xiamen, and hopes to add destinations in northern China, Japan and South Korea when it takes delivery of its first longer-range "widebody" aircraft.

Mr Sim said Valuair wanted to add two or three widebody aircraft to its fleet each year and was deciding between Airbus 340s and Boeing 767/777 models.

One reason for Valuair moving to acquire longer-range aircraft was the regulatory restrictions it was facing flying to short-haul destinations in South-East Asia.

Singapore-based airlines have unlimited access into Australia.

Mr Sim said Valuair was also keen to tap into the burgeoning number of Chinese tourists visiting Australia.

Last year, the number of Chinese visitors to Australia grew 42.6 per cent to 250,900, although this followed a drop in the previous year because of the SARS epidemic. Tourism Australia predicts the number will top 1 million by 2013.

Analysts remain cautious about Valuair's ability to trigger an airline price war.

A Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation consultant, Ian Thomas, said: "It really depends on what frequency they come in the market with."

He said the impact would be minimal if Valuair flew fewer than seven flights a week into Sydney.

There is also the impact Valuair has already had on fares since it started its flights to Perth in December.

With the airline's introductory $389 return fares having ended, Valuair's cheapest advertised pretax return fares from Perth to Singapore are now $629 - $80 lower than the cheapest advertised fares on Qantas's website.

maybach
March 1st, 2005, 12:22 PM
Not everyone has the time to fly via those ports. Has that ever crossed your mind?


Yes. If they're prepared to pay for higher priced tickets, why not? :)

Malt
March 1st, 2005, 12:23 PM
your a typical brisbane basher. go away

maybach
March 1st, 2005, 12:25 PM
^^

tch. whatever...

Malt
March 1st, 2005, 12:43 PM
well you seemingly just appeared here and posted twice, negative comments..

one about the stupid 'cliche' of retiree's. And some other crap.

Maybe if u posted constructive critisism along with praise instead of what u are posting now...

Wezza
March 1st, 2005, 12:54 PM
He's worried about the cost of things and his nickname is a brand of grossly overpriced motor vehicle......... Go figure........ lol

Orfeo
March 2nd, 2005, 02:27 AM
Aha. I was right. It is cheaper via Sydney than via Brisbane.

Um right....someone says 'it is cheaper to go via sydney' giving a reason but no evidence, and you go "i'm right".

Did you even read what I posted?


Return, adult economy from Brisbane non-stop - $1403 (12h to, 14h from)
Return, adult economy from Sydney non-stop - $1715 (13h 25m to, 14h 30min from)


Perth to LA (http://wftc3.e-travel.com/pl/QFinternational/en/FlexPricerAvailabilityServlet?TIMESTAMP=200503021223&SITE=QFI&PRICING_TYPE=I&DATE_RANGE_QUALIFIER_1=C&DATE_RANGE_VALUE_1=0&DATE_RANGE_QUALIFIER_2=C&DATE_RANGE_VALUE_2=0&DISPLAY_TYPE=2&LANGUAGE=GB&ARRANGE_BY=E&CUSTOMER_TYPE=P&TRIP_TYPE=O&B_LOCATION_1=PER&E_LOCATION_1=LAX&B_LOCATION_2=LAX&E_LOCATION_2=PER&B_DATE_1=200505140100&B_DATE_2=200505020100&TRAVELLER_TYPE_1=ADT&PAGE_FROM=/regions/dyn/quickSearch&COMMERCIAL_FARE_FAMILY_1=AUINTECO) is still cheapest via Brisbane, though on this day it takes significantly longer to get there.

It is cheaper to go to LA via Singapore though, mainly becaus Qantas overcharges on all of their Aus-NA routes.

Gertzy
March 2nd, 2005, 06:54 AM
I wish Valuair flew to regional ports like Townsville and Cairns. That'll be great.
But however, good for Brisbane in Getting cheap flights to Sing, Australian doesn't look like its going to fly to Brisbane in a while.

Wezza
March 2nd, 2005, 09:20 AM
The only time Brisbane will see Australian Airlines 767's is when they come in for maitainance. I can't see Australian operating in and out of Brisbane anytime soon purely because they would be competing against Qantas. They'll stick to Gold Coast i think.

Gertzy
March 2nd, 2005, 09:34 AM
They won't be competing with Qantas, Australian is an Airline thats part of the Qantas Group, If they're operating out of Sydney, Melbourne and now Perth, and thats not competing with Qantas, especially Cairns, Qantas gave up the majority of their Cairns routes because they wanted to see thier venture Thrive.

Wezza
March 2nd, 2005, 10:27 AM
I realise that. For them to operate out of Brisbane, Qantas would more than likely pull out of some routes. Unless, of course, they were planning on opening up new routes out of Brisbane.
BTW, i realise Australian is part of Qantas. Lol.

Gertzy
March 3rd, 2005, 12:50 PM
Speaking of Australian. Dennis Adams, the old CEO said at the Launch of Australian Airlines back in 2001, that Australian would be serving most of SE Asia and most Australian International Ports by mid decade, but growth is slow and only a slight percentage of SE Asia is served by Australian.

Wezza
March 7th, 2005, 12:40 PM
This posted on another forum:

From Monday March 28th 2005 Air NZ will add one extra 744 flight on Sunday and 10 A320's. The A320's will be daily on Mon and Wed and double daily on Tue, Thr, Fri and Sat. This will add on to the daily 744.

Malt
March 7th, 2005, 01:09 PM
So now its..
Sunday: A320, 744
Monday: A320, 744
Tuesday: A320, A320, 744
Wednesday: A320, 744
Thursday: A320, A320, 744
Friday: A320, A320, 744
Saturday: A320, A320, 744
To Auckland?

and thats just by Air NZ.

good news. will increase passenger movement even more :)

Wezza
March 7th, 2005, 01:37 PM
Pacific Blue are also increasing NZ flights from 13 to 19 per week in May i believe. Not sure on exact dates yet.

In other news, expansion of the international terminal is expected to begin in the near future. This will incorporate 2 new gates to the north & possibly further extension to the south.

Wezza
March 14th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Garuda increases capacity from Brisbane by 33%

Garuda Indonesia has added a second dedicated service between Brisbane and Denpasar, bringing the total number of weekly services to 4.

The new flight GA707 departs on Fridays at 8.30am arriving at a convenient 12.30pm . As with the Monday dedicated service, and the Wednesday and Saturday services that originate in Auckland , the flight is operated with a wide-bodied A330 aircraft.

The new service adds an extra 293 seats per week to the current 879 seats available for sale from Brisbane.

This new Brisbane service is the first step in a major capacity expansion planned for Australia in 2005. Extra flights and extra capacity are also programmed from Sydney, Melbourne and Perth later this year.

Malt
March 14th, 2005, 10:58 AM
lol @ '33%'
Turns out it was only 1 flight.

still admittadly good news. New flights are being put into brisbane constantly now (looking at this page of this thread)

Wezza
March 14th, 2005, 11:44 AM
Watch out for some new Asian carriers before the end of the year as well.

Gertzy
March 15th, 2005, 08:04 AM
I heard of Discussion between Valuair for Flights between Singapore-Brisbane, and Hong-Kong based Dragonair as well.

Malt
March 17th, 2005, 03:31 AM
Freedom Air flights to Brisbane to end

17.03.05 11.40am


Air New Zealand’s budget wing Freedom Air is axeing its flights to Brisbane, handing over the route to its full-service parent.

In return, Freedom will take over one of Air NZ’s leisure routes, including between Wellington and Fiji. Pacific Blue now has full control of the low-cost market between the main New Zealand cities and Brisbane.

The moves come as part of a wider reshuffling of the aviation deck across the Tasman, with Freedom’s budget rival Pacific Blue recently moving to take on the Auckland market.

It is launching flights from Auckland to Brisbane and the Gold Coast, starting May 12.

Orfeo
March 17th, 2005, 03:44 AM
Because of the different aircraft sizes it should mean an increase in capacity.

JayT
March 17th, 2005, 08:14 AM
Freedom Air flights to Brisbane to end

17.03.05 11.40am


Air New Zealand’s budget wing Freedom Air is axeing its flights to Brisbane, handing over the route to its full-service parent.

In return, Freedom will take over one of Air NZ’s leisure routes, including between Wellington and Fiji. Pacific Blue now has full control of the low-cost market between the main New Zealand cities and Brisbane.

The moves come as part of a wider reshuffling of the aviation deck across the Tasman, with Freedom’s budget rival Pacific Blue recently moving to take on the Auckland market.

It is launching flights from Auckland to Brisbane and the Gold Coast, starting May 12.

Freedom would be better off concentrating on the Gold or Sunshine Coasts as they have cheaper landing costs.

If Ipswich gets the go ahead it will have much cheaper costs than Brisbane too.

jt

BrizzyChris
March 17th, 2005, 10:32 AM
lol...international flights to Ipswich? That'll be the day.

Wezza
March 17th, 2005, 10:54 AM
Maybe when BNE is at it's absolute maximum capacity.......... Not in this lifetime anyway. ;)

JayT
March 17th, 2005, 11:07 AM
lol...international flights to Ipswich? That'll be the day.
Thats what Ipswich city council wants - hey there are international flights to Palmerston North and Hamilton in NZ.

jt

Macca-GC
March 17th, 2005, 12:54 PM
Wait.... Ipswich....... has an airport...:hilarious: :hahano:

Ipswich has Archerfield and Amberley.

Since when are there international flights from there?

KIWIKAAS
March 17th, 2005, 02:25 PM
Maybe when BNE is at it's absolute maximum capacity.......... Not in this lifetime anyway. ;)

Wait a sec Wezza and BrizzyChris. This is a worldwide trend at the moment. It has nothing to do with capacity problems at the main airports but is rather a case of using small airports with lower landing fees and slot restrictions. This has only happened so far at Avalon in Australia but has been a trend for quite some years now in Europe and North America with budget airlines using alternative airports to cut down on costs.

JayT
March 17th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Wait a sec Wezza and BrizzyChris. This is a worldwide trend at the moment. It has nothing to do with capacity problems at the main airports but is rather a case of using small airports with lower landing fees and slot restrictions. This has only happened so far at Avalon in Australia but has been a trend for quite some years now in Europe and North America with budget airlines using alternative airports to cut down on costs.
Exactly!
And I know that the Ipswich city council has expressed interest in developing Amberley as a second airport for Brisbane - given that its so far west.

They will just have to work it out with the RAAF and Boeing.

jt

Wezza
March 17th, 2005, 09:57 PM
I haven't heard any of the airlines complaining about the fees at BNE and wanting to move elsewhere yet though.

JayT
March 17th, 2005, 10:52 PM
I haven't heard any of the airlines complaining about the fees at BNE and wanting to move elsewhere yet though.

Well they don't have much choice do they. I believe I remember Jetstar wanted to fly into Ipswich at first.

jt

nikko
March 18th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Well they don't have much choice do they. I believe I remember Jetstar wanted to fly into Ipswich at first.

jt

They wanted to setup a terminal at Amberly, much like Avalon :D

Malt
March 22nd, 2005, 02:41 AM
Centro withdraws from BAC appeal
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Centro Properties Group (CNP) has withdrawn an appeal against a decision allowing the Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) to develop property on its own land.

The appeal, which was to be heard by the full Federal Court, had been made against the dismissal of allegations by Westfield Holdings Ltd and CNP about the legality of BAC's property development activities.

BAC said the allegations had centred on its Number 1 Airport Drive precinct, in particular the construction of a Direct Factory Outlet.

BAC spokesperson Jim Carden said the corporation would be seeking the fullest possible recovery of costs.

Malt
March 23rd, 2005, 03:21 AM
Sky’s the limit for Brisbane Airport
Nelson Yap
March 23, 2005


Centro Properties Group has withdrawn an appeal against a Federal Court decision last month brought by Centro and Westfield to stop the Brisbane Airport Corporation from developing a shopping precinct.

Centro and Westfield argued that BAC’s intention to develop Number 1 Airport drive was illegal under the Federal Airports Act.

Westfield and Centro commenced the action against BAC and the Federal Minster in May 2003 seeking to prohibit BAC from developing Number 1 Airport drive, the consortium argued that BAC’s shopping centre precinct had nothing to do with the airport’s operation.

Last month in the Federal Court, His Honour Justice Cooper rejected the application by Westfield, who had sued BAC and the Federal Minister for Transport, seeking to limit the type of development allowable at major Australian airports under the Airports Act.

Yesterday, Centro withdrew its an appeal against a decision, giving BAC the green light to develop property on its own land.

BAC has indicated it plans to develop a Direct Factory Outlet.

“The decision by Centro to withdraw vindicates the interpretation of the Airports Act upon which BAC – and other Australian airport operators – purchased their long-term leases over the country's major capital city airports,” BAC spokesperson Jim Carden said.

"We now look to the Federal Government to use the Winter session of Parliament to adopt the necessary changes to the relevant sections of the Federal Airports Act to ratify unequivocally the interpretation of the Act as it was originally intended.

"Meanwhile, the $26 million DFO building is on track for completion and handover to Direct Factory Outlets in July, and will open to the public in September,” he said.

Carden also said that BAC would be seeking the fullest possible recovery of costs incurred in the matter.

Centro traded unchanged $5.33, while Westfield traded 12 cents down at $16.42.

Maroon Grown
March 23rd, 2005, 03:40 AM
how could BAC lose, its half built!

Malt
March 23rd, 2005, 03:52 AM
...they didnt lose.

BrizzyChris
March 23rd, 2005, 09:45 AM
it wasn't a question though.

Malt
March 23rd, 2005, 10:54 AM
excellent then.

Orfeo
March 24th, 2005, 08:22 AM
BNE have released the January passenger numbers...

International - up 14% on previous year
Domestic - up 5% on previous year

Total - up 7% on previous year.

Could be a good year.

Malt
March 24th, 2005, 08:34 AM
:| lmfao.

Last year was massive. This year is already looking up.

BrizzyChris
March 25th, 2005, 02:21 AM
Those Jan figures were released quite a while ago, I just didn't bother to post them (thought you guys might be getting sick of airport stats..lol). Feb figures should be out quite soon.

Gertzy
March 29th, 2005, 03:02 AM
I came Back from Brisbane (technically Canberra via Brisbane) and It was Quiet when the plane landed there at 7:40 but around the same time, planes started landing and about 20 minutes before I boarded the flight to Townsville, All the Qantas gates, Aerobridges etc were all being used, there seemed to be a few Virgin Planes but I do not think it was full on that side of the Terminal. That was all this Morning.

Orfeo
March 29th, 2005, 06:05 AM
^
I had to pickup someone at the airport yesterday afternoon and it seemed quite lively, and they complained of too many people arround.

And more planes will be using the airport....

Qantas' budget airline Jetstar has boosted the number of seats on its flights from Avalon Airport by 90 per cent in nine months of operation, with an extra daily return service to Sydney announced.

The carrier has also added extra supplementary flights to Brisbane along with an upgrade of some existing Boeing 717 services to the larger Airbus A320 for the first time.

In a joint statement, Jetstar and Linfox Airports said the number of weekly flights would rise to 120 from April 1.

In June last year Jetstar began its Avalon operations - the first airline in Australia to use a second domestic airport for commercial flights - operating 70 weekly services.

As of Sunday, Jetstar has increased the number of daily flights on the Sydney-Avalon route to four, increasing both its frequency and available seat ability on the city pair.

On the Avalon-Brisbane route, Jetstar will also add an additional four return "supplementary" services a week between April 1 and May 31, adding to its existing 42 flights a week.

Between March 27 and March 30 Jetstar will also add additional scheduled flights on the Avalon-Brisbane route.

Gertzy
March 29th, 2005, 08:21 AM
Maybe they should finish that semi-Circle at the Common User Terminal and put five aerobridges on it.

Wezza
March 29th, 2005, 09:04 AM
^ I believe that is the plan when the terminal extension/improvements get underway.

BrizzyChris
March 29th, 2005, 01:35 PM
I more interested to see what extensions they plan at the International Terminal.

JayT
April 4th, 2005, 07:15 AM
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/DaVinci_precinctsMap.gif

The Da Vinci Centre
from www.bne.com.au

The Da Vinci Centre is located at Brisbane Airport, Australia’s global trade and commerce hub which is evolving into an Airport City of the future.

The Airport is a community of many organisations, located in a variety of master planned precincts, currently employing more than 8,200 people, but forecast to grow to in excess of 40,000 in the next twenty years.

From military helicopter manufacturers to flight trainers, from cargo forwarders to avionics specialists, Brisbane Airport is home to the full spectrum of companies who enjoy the strategic benefits of belonging to a cluster of activity that generates opportunity and growth.

The exciting Da Vinci Centre is developing as a pivotal precinct which complements Aerotech Park, Export Park and the other precincts which are proving so successful for the world of businesses located at Brisbane Airport. It is all part of the Master Plan which ensures synergistic and complementary future development.

As a first class campus, the Da Vinci Centre will be home to such bodies as universities, TAFE, private training providers and airline education facilities.

To complement these education entities there will be businesses involved in such areas as research and development, aviation consultancy, aviation technology, avionics, systems, hi-technology and warehousing and distribution.
http://www.bne.com.au/graphics/popups/DaVinci_Map_detail.gif
The Da Vinci Centre is planned with an open landscaped boulevard concept of trees and space.

The Centre will also have an exciting feeling from being so close to international and domestic terminals with their landings and departures.

The plan offers room for expansion to those business which grow.



Unbeatable on-airport location.

The Da Vinci Centre is unique as Australia’s only on-airport aviation campus. This provides such outstanding business benefits as 24/7 curfew free operations, access to all modes of transport, and domestic and international air connections.

Future development will bring such Airport City facilities as hotels, convention centres, a golf course, restaurants and a major shopping centre.

Brisbane Airport is only 13 kilometres from the CBD of Brisbane, the capital city of Queensland, which offers sophisticated infrastructure and lifestyle benefits.

Brisbane is one of Australia’s preferred places to live, with a warm sub-tropical climate, surf beaches to the north and south, sophisticated cosmopolitan style and a vibrant cultural scene.

_______________________________________________________________________________
jt

JayT
April 4th, 2005, 07:22 AM
17/03/2005 - New figures show strength of Australia TradeCoast

Source = http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=MediaReleases

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) today welcomed the release of a report highlighting the economic impact of Australia TradeCoast, a global trade and commerce precinct encompassing Brisbane’s airport and seaport.

The report shows the Australia TradeCoast region’s significant contribution to Gross State Product (GSP), which is estimated to have increased by $3.8 billion from $6.7 billion in 1999-00 to $10.5 billion in 2003-04.

Over the same period 38,000 full time jobs were created through direct and indirect business activity in the area bring employment figures to 99,000 from 61,000.

BAC spokesperson Mr Jim Carden said the report highlighted the role airports and ports play in the modern global economy.

“Trade zones such as the Australia TradeCoast or international equivalents like the Amsterdam Airport Area prove that the prosperity of a facility is not limited by a fence or a line on a map,” he said. “There are concentric effects that radiate out from a trade zone, which have a real and immediate impact on the generation of long term sustainable jobs and regional prosperity.”

Mr Carden said: “Airports are more than just places to catch planes and ports are more than just places for ships to dock. Together, they are the engine room for the region’s economy, and it is vital that their contribution to further growth is not constrained by poor planning or a lack of investment in infrastructure.

“Around the world, the importance of these zones is highlighted by the fact that in many cities, airport land is more expensive than traditional CBD land,” he said.

Brisbane Airport has played a major role in the success of the Australia TradeCoast region.

Passenger movements through the Airport increased from 11.2 million in 1999 to 15.1 million in 2005 while in the 10 years to 2002 airfreight volumes grew at an average of 8.1 percent.

Since 2000 the value of the Airport’s infrastructure grew by $535 million from $665million to $1.2 billion in 2004.

In 2005 BAC is embarking on a major infrastructure investment program which will see the roll out of a $400+ million second main runway and a massive expansion of the Airport’s domestic and international terminals and roads.

Further information:
Jim Carden, Corporate Relations Manager BAC 0413 120 341

*All figures sourced from the 2005 Australia TradeCoast Economic Impacts Final Report prepared by Economic Associates Pty Ltd
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jt

Gertzy
April 4th, 2005, 07:23 AM
Da Vinci Centre, what the hell???

nikko
April 4th, 2005, 07:29 AM
It's just the name they're giving to the aviation education precinct being constructed as part of the Brisbane Airport urgrade.
I'm guessing the name is in relation to Da Vinci's original exploration of the idea of flight.


Besides Jt, great finds there. This is ging to be great..and another step towards Brisbane becoming Australia's avation hub.

those stats are also very interesting...with the increase in employment and movement through the airport.

Malt
April 4th, 2005, 07:39 AM
It is very good.
It is the type of thing which will make Brisbane the national leaders in aviation.
Everything in 1 place, massive complex, etc.

Texcoco
April 4th, 2005, 07:43 AM
^^^
Yes malt and all this will be good for Melbourne because we're one big happy country right?

nikko
April 4th, 2005, 07:52 AM
In essence, yes.

because once Brisbane becomes Australia gateway to overseas, we will be responsible for handling Melbourne tourist travellers.

Don't mess with tex.

JayT
April 4th, 2005, 07:55 AM
It is very good.
It is the type of thing which will make Brisbane the national leaders in aviation.
Everything in 1 place, massive complex, etc.
True - here is another glowing article!

18/02/2005 - A statement on the gateway motorway

Brisbane Airport Corporation (BAC) has welcomed yesterday's announcement of the State Government's upgrade to the Gateway Bridge and Motorway, which will help transform the Australia TradeCoast region into arguably the largest infrastructure investment zone in Australia.

BAC Managing Director and CEO Koen Rooijmans said the Gateway Motorway and Bridge represented a significant factor in the accessibility and efficiency of Brisbane Airport.

“By the time the Gateway upgrade is completed, Brisbane Airport will be handling the number of passengers Sydney Airport is handling today. For this growth to be realised, however, off-airport infrastructure must keep pace,’’ he said.

Mr Rooijmans said the Brisbane Airport was an engine room for regional economic development, with a workforce expected to grow to over 35,000 in the next 15-20 years.

“Together with investments by the Port of Brisbane, the Brisbane City Council, and aviation industry, this geographic area is emerging as a national focus for infrastructure investment, and we believe the benefits of this infrastructure commitment will reverberate through employment in emerging industries, export growth, tourism and business investment,’’ he said.

"Along with our partners in Australia TradeCoast, we have huge investments ready to roll out, but these have always been dependent on the willingness of Government at all levels to ensure that the infrastructure is planned and delivered to realise the potential that this investment will unlock.

"This announcement gives us great confidence to move ahead with a significant $1.5 billion investment program including a new parallel runway, terminal expansions and road infrastructure works, helping realise the potential of the Australia TradeCoast region as a key Asia-Pacific trade and commerce hub.

"We look forward to working with the Government in the optimum timing and delivery of this vital project, which matches our preliminary timetable for the delivery of Brisbane Airport's second parallel runway by around 2011. The cost of the runway is estimated at around $400-500 million.

"We are especially excited about the opportunity to develop a secondary access to the airport, which will significantly reduce traffic time from the Sunshine and Gold Coasts, as well as easing pressure on local roads and improving the amenity for the business and residential communities of northside Brisbane.’’
http://www.bne.com.au/content/standard.asp?name=MediaReleases
____________________________________________________________________________
Yes its all good, its amazing to see how the airport is transforming itself. Must get out there and take some pictures of the construction going on. Having an airport integrated with Australia's 3rd largest port and having all that room to expand both means that the region will be one of Australia's if not Australia's largest industrial and trade precinct in the future

As I said - its all good!!
jt

Malt
April 4th, 2005, 07:57 AM
poor tex. He just cant stand that things are happening up here.
there there.
there. there...

JayT
April 4th, 2005, 08:00 AM
poor tex. He just cant stand that things are happening up here.
there there.
there. there...

LOL - yes but put yourself in his shoes, he is stuck down there while we are up here.
Malt you must be a little more understanding to those less fortunate :runaway:
jt

Texcoco
April 4th, 2005, 08:05 AM
^^^
I think it's just great boys but why am I paying for it?

"those less fortunate"

How are you going with those stats JT...can you dig up some per capita income figures on Vic/QLD while your at it?

Malt
April 4th, 2005, 08:20 AM
what?
what are you paying for lol..

This isnt govt funded foolish man! this is the BAC (owned by the Port of Brisbane Corp).. The BCC has 500k invested in it. Thats the only Govt money i know of

JayT
April 4th, 2005, 08:33 AM
^^^
I think it's just great boys but why am I paying for it?

Your not, this huge development is a public private partnership, the public part is being payed for by BCC and the Qld state government. BAC is privately owned.

jt

Texcoco
April 4th, 2005, 09:37 AM
"and the Qld state government"
Where do think their budget surplus comes from?

Malt
April 4th, 2005, 09:43 AM
lol Tex.
You have no clue..

to be honest your really beginning to get irritating. You are not paying for this. And FYI, this WILL benifit VIC, but only if the Brisbane -> Melbourne rail line is constructed.

Gertzy
April 4th, 2005, 01:42 PM
Okay I see your point in what your saying about why its called the Da Vinci Centre. Geez Tex hmmmm, why are we paying for your crappy Mitcham-Frankston Tollways (not me anyway as I am a Teenager) and part of your infastructure funding. Every state pays for something!!!!!!!!!!

JayT
April 4th, 2005, 02:16 PM
Okay I see your point in what your saying about why its called the Da Vinci Centre. Geez Tex hmmmm, why are we paying for your crappy Mitcham-Frankston Tollways (not me anyway as I am a Teenager) and part of your infastructure funding. Every state pays for something!!!!!!!!!!
Look at what else Qld pays for - see #76. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=193941&page=4
jt

BrizzyChris
April 5th, 2005, 04:14 AM
BNE February Passenger Movement Figures:

International Passengers: 268,411 (+12%)
Domestic Passengers: 855,615 (+5%)

February Total Passengers: 1,124,026 (+6%)

July 2004 - February 2005 (Year to Date): 10,508,588 (+12.6%)

Malt
April 5th, 2005, 04:18 AM
...... thats getting crazy.

If it continues at that same rate we will have had 19,265,743 passengers by july.
But if it keeps increasing in % as it has ben it will be more.

That is seriously crazy

BrizzyChris
April 5th, 2005, 06:56 AM
Well February is the lowest month this financial period. July to January have all been around the 1.3 million mark. But I'm presuming Feb is just a slow month. By my predictions, BNE's year-to-date figure in June (12 months) should be around 16 million. Which would be up around 2 million from 2003/2004's 14 million.

My figures might seem a bit confusing to people because I use the July - June year (which is also what they do on the official site), but the press like to show Jan-Dec figures.

Wezza
April 5th, 2005, 10:09 AM
It was only a couple of years ago that BNE got 10,000,000 for the whole year!! :)

Texcoco
April 6th, 2005, 02:57 AM
Gertzy:"Geez Tex hmmmm, why are we paying for your crappy Mitcham-Frankston Tollways"
You'll only pay if you use it Gertzy that's what a user pays toll road is for.

Sorry boys i just realised you're a bunch of kids...won't raise the issue with you three again. Have fun kids!

Malt
April 6th, 2005, 04:03 AM
I think you will find that we got like this because you continuously claim that you oay for things. etc

In multiple threads you have been bringing that topic up. It is getting annoying.

Why cant you talk about the Airport of your going to be here? not claim your paying for it.

BrizzyChris
April 6th, 2005, 04:33 AM
Texcoco...have you ever considered moving to Antarctica? I'm pretty sure you won't have to pay too much for QLD's infrastructure upgrades down there.

Gertzy
April 6th, 2005, 05:48 AM
The Question remains, why the hell is he on this forum when he is not talking about the related topic instead of the Victorian Tax Hike or whatever the hell he is going on about.

Well excuse me mr Fancy, We're not some rich people forum, so we wont show class unless we want to show class, and yes we're all a bunch of kids, thanks to you, (I litterally am one anyway)

Texcoco
April 6th, 2005, 06:03 AM
thanks boys..bye!