Being a S.Korean project, i have good hopes this will be under construction soon. They don't mess around.

I like what I see in the latest proposal. This one looks to be elegant and different enough to be called a landmark tower. This one gets my applause.

awesome

OMG! Koreans are making buzz in the next few years!

Sarangheyoo!!

OMG! Koreans are making buzz in the next few years!

Sarangheyoo!!

I want to see new up dates. Seoul began constraction many interesting and higest buildings.

okay. later... I'll come back...
13th November....

I don't understand how they can build this, do they really need that much space? The South Korean economy is not that large, and this is an office building...

I don't understand how they can build this, do they really need that much space? The South Korean economy is not that large, and this is an office building...

There is actually a lack of office space in the city.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2009/10/233_35083.html

Should mods move this thread to "Under construction" section?

Should mods move this thread to "Under construction" section?

not yet... This Sincere Construction period is 2010 March..
fact I knew..

I don't understand how they can build this, do they really need that much space? The South Korean economy is not that large, and this is an office building...

I don't understand how you can say this..
you can say Dubai economy is that large to need Burj Duabi? lol.

I don't understand how they can build this, do they really need that much space? The South Korean economy is not that large, and this is an office building...

Nice, way to show ignorance about SKorea's economy + the housing patterns in SKorea. South Korea is easily the most densely settled populous and economically developed country with almost half of its citizens living in the metropolitan area of Seoul. Seoul's metropolitan area is more populated than New York's, yet smaller in geographic size.

It might be large enough to see from North Korea...or the Ryugyong hotel at least!

Seoul needs more supertalls. A fine project indeed.

It might be large enough to see from North Korea...or the Ryugyong hotel at least!

You don't want to lower property values ...

saludos !

I don't understand how they can build this, do they really need that much space? The South Korean economy is not that large, and this is an office building...

Are you kidding me right? :D

South Korea's economy (US $1.5 trillion / 50 million people / $30,000 GDP per capita) is Asia's 4th largest behind China, Japan and India. South Korea's economy was Asia's top 3 a few years ago, but India caught up with them due to their 1.2 billion population.

South Korea is also one of the few Asian countries whose GDP per capita is comparable to Western Europe.

It is a highly developed country sitting on a hugely dense area where 80% of the land is mountainous.

As for Seoul, according to Fortune 500, Seoul's ranked No.6 in the world in terms of having global companies' headquarters. New York is ranked No.5 with 20 global companies based, while Seoul has 13.

Please show off your arrogance some place else.

Nice, way to show ignorance about SKorea's economy + the housing patterns in SKorea. South Korea is easily the most densely settled populous and economically developed country with almost half of its citizens living in the metropolitan area of Seoul. Seoul's metropolitan area is more populated than New York's, yet smaller in geographic size.

This has NOTHING to do with population. What does that have to do with office space?

Please show off your arrogance some place else.

Alright, now you’re acting like a big jerk. I was just asking. It still doesn’t make sense to me, Dubai has oil wealth, Seoul does not. If their economy is comparable to western standers then these kinds of towers should be too expensive to build.

^^ Let's just stop right there and continue praising this beautiful tower being built from a country once poorer than Ethiopia just under 40 years ago:banana:

^^ Let's just stop right there and continue praising this beautiful tower being built from a country once poorer than Ethiopia just under 40 years ago:banana:

I agree, I like the tower itself. I was just asking for more clarification, I'm not dissing South Korea at all. It is a miracle story and a great country.

This has NOTHING to do with population. What does that have to do with office space?

Alright, now you’re acting like a big jerk. I was just asking. It still doesn’t make sense to me, Dubai has oil wealth, Seoul does not. If their economy is comparable to western standers then these kinds of towers should be too expensive to build.

you say office space and then, say money... wtf is your points?


yeah,, Seoul has enough money and needs office space more. ok?
but, if you're not ignorant, you don't say such thing..
even,, Dubai has built so many scrapers with money invested from overseas not just with oil money. actually, Abu Dabi has much more oil, not Dubai..

you just doubt that Seoul or Korea as a big country.. but it is as big as do it way,, don't worry.. hehe..

you say office space and then, say money... wtf is your points?

Don't size of population and economy generally go hand and hand today? South Korea's economy can only be so large with the number of people it has.

yeah,, Seoul has enough money and needs office space more. ok?
but, if you're not ignorant, you don't say such thing..
even,, Dubai has built so many scrapers with money invested from overseas not just with oil money. actually, Abu Dabi has much more oil, not Dubai..
I've criticized Dubai before, they're much more awkward in their approach than South Korea is. No one is ever going to fill all those buildings in Dubai, their committing financial suicide.

Don't size of population and economy generally go hand and hand today? South Korea's economy can only be so large with the number of people it has.

I've criticized Dubai before, they're much more awkward in their approach than South Korea is. No one is ever going to fill all those buildings in Dubai, their committing financial suicide.

funny.. office space, money, and now population ? what is next ? :lol:

economy is as big as its population? lol... the stupidest saying I've ever heard.. then make all the countries' economy list just as its population base.. we don't need no more GDP list from now on... :lol::lol::lol:

and get the point. Needs build building and draw money from wherever the investers get interested in.

don't waste my time.. :bash:

I was just asking. It still doesn’t make sense to me, Dubai has oil wealth, Seoul does not. If their economy is comparable to western standers then these kinds of towers should be too expensive to build.

You said it yourself. "If Seoul's economy is comparable to western standards, then these kind of towers should be too expensive to build." - That's your answer for you.

To sum it up, much of Seoul's area has been urbanized so much that they now have no more land to develop. With no more space for development, coupled with relatively high land price (Seoul's land price is ranked No.6 behind London, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Copenhagen and Geneva), the developers have no choice but to build it taller, thereby maximizing their profits on a given space.

In addition, the current mayor of Seoul is very conscious about the environmental issues. He wants to get the most out of Seoul's landscape, the river and the mountains when the development is taking place. So, he came up with the master plan called, 'Han River Renaissance Plan'. (A small part of it is shown in this post; http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=42669040&postcount=301) Basically, it's allowing the developers to build the buildings taller but, in return, require them to contribute the remaining space back to the citizens so that these areas can be turned into parks. It's like throwing one stone to catch two birds; developers can maximize their profit margins while the inhabitants get the less polluted air and more parks.

In addition, Seoul's office vacancy rate, as of now, is less than 2% which is one of the lowest compared to other global cities. Hence, all these factors contribute to Seoul's need for super tall towers.

I've criticized Dubai before, they're much more awkward in their approach than South Korea is. No one is ever going to fill all those buildings in Dubai, their committing financial suicide.

I also agree with your statement about Dubai though. Dubai can build as many towers as possible because most of their investments are backed up by their huge oil money. Instead of investing its revenues on R&D, human resources or technology, Dubai are spending their money on building as many theme parks, towers, luxury apartments as possible to become the global hub of tourism.

As you say, it might be the gamble they're taking. For a city size of only 2.2m, they're building too many towers. Most of them will wind up becoming empty since most of their buildings are for residential and hotel use.

You can't, however, say the same thing to East Asia. For instance, China builds many super tall towers not for their ego, but because their environment makes them build it taller. (One of the fastest growing rate, huge migration of farmers into the city every year, limited space to develop). As for South Korea, their case is a bit different to China though. Contrast to China, it's already a developed country. However, with extremely high land price + one of the most densely populated geography + very low office vacancy rate + the developers/inhabitants/the mayor all agree to the same idea, makes it possible for a need for the super tall towers.

^^ I must say your two last posts was very didactic. As i understood case of chine already, i didn't know some details about koreas one, witch are very interesting. Thanks :cheers:

Whatever it is, Seoul is getting new office spaces soon and population
I don't think really has to do with how Korea's economy is right now.
There are in fact many things that contributes to the growth.

Some of them that I can thing of on top of my head are:

1) Dedication and Hard-work

2) National Pride

(Koreans are very proud of who we are
and where we stand today in society despite being conquered
by various neighboring countries and suffering Japanese imperalism
and many wars, where else in the world will host an Olympics
only 30 years after a war?)

3) Korean people's "CAN-DO" spirit

(We built Burj Dubai, Petronas Twin Towers, Taipei 101)
(Economy: GDP (PPP) $1.342 trillion (2008)
GDP (PPP) per capita $27,646 (2008)

4) Extremely long working hours (54.7 hours/week)

5) Extremely competitive education system

6) Higly Skilled and Motivated Workforce

(Scientific Literacy: World's 1st)
(Mathematic Literacy: World's 2nd)

6) Confucianist Values (Family values, etc)

7) Christianity and Buddhism

(Korea is the second most Christian
country in Asia after Phillippines and sends out the most missionaries
after the USA)

8) "Irish of Asia"

(Directness, Hard-headed, Passionate loyalty to
their church or religion, melancholy history (history of being under
control of an imperalistic island called Japan), love to drink and smoke,
loves singing and loves to fight)

9) "Italians of Asia"

(Welcoming, Overly-Passionate and Nationalistic, Short Temper, Eat a lot of Garlic, a Peninsula nation, Emotional, Womanizers, Mama's boys, Family bonding, Romance-lovers, thrive on food, expressive when mad)

10) You tell me

Get this ignorant racist troll Onn out of here, he obviously has no business talking economics.

A moderator should really come in and delete most of the previous page. What a waste of reading.

Don't size of population and economy generally go hand and hand today? South Korea's economy can only be so large with the number of people it has.


I've criticized Dubai before, they're much more awkward in their approach than South Korea is. No one is ever going to fill all those buildings in Dubai, their committing financial suicide.

:ohno:What? South Korea has one of the largest, most dymnamic economies on earth they can obviously build anything they like...and I'm pleased that they like supertalls!

Dubai likewise has huge aspirations for being a major world hub like Singapore with a financial center, an incredible airport, a massive harbor, and yes, a whole lot of towers! My only concern for Dubai is that so many other cities want a similar status including a few nearby. We'll see how well they do!

this is going to be a great tower. 2nd tallest after burj dubai?

the spire reaches 153rd floor on burj dubai

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/4113495954_7022a1f71b_o.jpg

Good news,

LG just paid $200 mil to occupy 670,000 m2 of office spaces in Seoul Lite tower. LG said that their subsidiaries, LG Telecom and LG CNS will also move in. That's a good start.

For reference, Seoul Lite is being built in Seoul's DMC (Digital Media City) zone where Korea's top IT & Media companies are based. Ever since DMC was created by the city of Seoul, most broadcasting stations, news agencies, high tech IT companies have moved in. The newly built towers in DMC are not that tall, but they all have similar glass facade, and they look fantastic together. I'll attach some pics later. Also, expect a few marvelous looking-proposed towers being built in the zone in the future.

Good news,

LG just paid $200 mil to occupy 670,000 m2 of office spaces in Seoul Lite tower. LG said that their subsidiaries, LG Telecom and LG CNS will also move in. That's a good start.

For reference, Seoul Lite is being built in Seoul's DMC (Digital Media City) zone where Korea's top IT & Media companies are based. Ever since DMC was created by the city of Seoul, most broadcasting stations, news agencies, high tech IT companies have moved in. The newly built towers in DMC are not that tall, but they all have similar glass facade, and they look fantastic together. I'll attach some pics later. Also, expect a few marvelous looking-proposed towers being built in the zone in the future.

Oh!! very good news in korea,LG Group(do you know LG?) invest Seoul lite and Sangam DMC for its new Headquarter Project.

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Bigger renderings + article at Archdaily (http://www.archdaily.com/43429/digital-media-city-som/).

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I kinda wished this tower was built in Gangnam...anyone know anything about the Green Gateway Tower??

I kinda wished this tower was built in Gangnam...anyone know anything about the Green Gateway Tower??

this is 삼성동 한전 부지 개발.

Sweet renderings, but it doesnt look like its 640m. :dunno:

^^ Its the very tall spire and stash up top of the building making the 640m i guess. Top floors must be just around SWFC's top floor.

Looks quite bulky actually..

That last rendering with the river in the forground was stunning.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5189/90125545.jpg

Not as cool as Incheon's towers but still marvelous :nuts:

Sweet renderings, but it doesnt look like its 640m. :dunno:

^^ Its the very tall spire and stash up top of the building making the 640m i guess. Top floors must be just around SWFC's top floor.

And the big podium which catch almost all the tower base, count in this height, that's why it seem smaller if you count above the podium.

Light Tower in Seoul in May 2010 to be authentic teopagi Sangam DMC-IT Performance & Exhibition Center Construction

1 days, Mapo, Seoul Sangam World Cup Park, 2:00 p.m. in front of just two. 4 car next to a vacant lot that is surrounded by a 5m-high steel fence. Fence in the dream city of Seoul, the word was written. This site is in May next year, Sangam DMC (Digital Media City · Digital Media City) of the landmark building in Seoul, Light Tower, where construction has started proceedings under the current land compensation. When completed in 2015 in Dubai 'Burj Dubai' (818m, 160 floors), second highest in the world, 133 floors (height 640m) deuleoseoge building is worth. The building, a gazebo, a luxury hotel and convention center hall and the ubiquitous ipjuhal said.
Across the 'IT Complex, the site was in full swing teopagi 04. 2012 IT 21-story complex to be completed by the IT Center, Seoul, Korea's first international standard with a sports stadium that will enter the e.

March 1, Seoul, creating jobs DMC Sangam in full swing, you can enjoy a variety of cultural performances and exhibition venues, and would also attract said. Seoul bakjunggwon investment officer "instead of the sale of land leased to private operators in the format of exhibition venues, and selection of the" said "business is determined by the height of 100m or less up to the theater or music hall, circus, theater, such as berries make this move , "he said. The Housing Industry Exhibition and Cultural Center, Art Museum and exhibition purposes will enter the facilities. Piljidang annual rent is around 1.5 billion won.

Sangam Sangam DMC is 570,000 ㎡ new city the size of my digital media, entertainment industries, such as promising a place to gather information and media complex is to build a business. Jeongdoda fifth of the area of Yeouido. 1997 'Millennium City' (Sangam New Millennium New Town), he embodied DMC business plan in 2002 with the beginning of the land supply business was bongyeokhwa.

42 of the 51 parcels where the supply was completed. There will be a large building 41 deuleoseol dawn, the current LG CNS, DMC High-Tech Business Center, Internet users, such as Square Building 25 dawn revealed appearance.

Light Tower, completed in 2015 in Seoul Sangam DMC, along with creating business place finish in the Seoul Press Center, International Digital, a global media content centers, stadiums and will open a digital game. Only the ubiquitous street in the heart of the Digital Media Street (DMS) is a composition.

Seoul's competitiveness chief choehang the "DMC Construction waste mountain that had just been turned into a digital one, Sangam Nanjido to innovative projects," he said


Focus-Seoul Lite Building will start Construction in May due to Landing Compensation.

Seoul Lite sounds like a drink!:lol: I'll take 2 beers and a Seoul Lite!:rofl:

Seoul Lite sounds like a drink!:lol: I'll take 2 beers and a Seoul Lite!:rofl:

maybe there will be a cocktail named after it soon that is only served in Seoul City bars lol :nuts::lol:

looks better than the Burj Khalifa/

maybe there will be a cocktail named after it soon that is only served in Seoul City bars lol :nuts::lol:

No.. seoul lite means seoul-citizen.

Great project !!!

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very huge site..

from Skyscrapers Korean Community.
Active Piling Construction will start in June,2010.

Thanks for the info. I really hope some of these South Korea super-talls get under way soon. They all seem so close to happening but they are not quite under-construction.

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건축규모: 지하9층, 지상133층(최고높이 640m), 연면적 724,675m2

사업자: 서울라이트타워 주식회사
사업기간: 2009년 ~ 2015년
첨단기술의 시험장 DMC 대한민국 경제의 희망





DMC는 세계가 부러워하는 IT강국인 대한민국 첨단기술의 테스트베드이자, 한류를 이끌어 갈 문화콘텐츠 산업의 화수분으로서 대한민국의 경제에 활력을 불어 넣는 역할을 하게 될 것입니다.
또한 서울 DMC 랜드마크 빌딩은 디지털 엔터테인먼트를 활용한 새로운 디지털 문화 창출과 세계 굴지의 미디어&엔터테인먼트, IT기업 등의 유치를 통해 일자리 창출은 물론 서울의 투자 활성화에 큰 역할을 담당하게 될 것입니다.
2015년이 되면 완공될 랜드마크빌딩의 높이만큼 우리 디지털미디어산업의 경쟁력도 한층 높아져 있겠지요? 한류나 게임산업 등에서 이미 확인된 우리의 무궁무진한 잠재력이 이제 DMC를 통해 시너지 효과를 낼 수 있기를 기대합니다.



























개성까지 보이는 133층 랜드마크 빌딩





이곳 DMC가 다시 한번 세계의 이목을 집중시켰습니다. 두바이의 버즈두바이, 시카고의 시어스타워같은 100층 이상 높이의 초고층 빌딩이 이곳 DMC에 들어 서게 될 것입니다. 높이 640m, 133층의 서울 DMC 랜드마크빌딩의 최상층 에는 현재 세계 최고 높이의 전망대가 들어설 예정인데, 이곳에서는 날씨가 맑은 날에는 개성까지도 볼 수 있습니다.
109층~130층에는 현재 최고층 호텔인 중국 상하이 국제금융센터의 ‘Park Hyatt Hotel(79~93층)의 세계 기록을 갈아 치우게 될 세계 최고 높이의 6~8성급 초특급 호텔이 위치하게 됩니다.
서울 DMC 랜드마크빌딩은 이렇게 세계 최고 높이와 세계 최고 수준의 호텔을 비롯, 친환경 오피스와 주거시설, 자연과 어우러지는 고품격 쇼핑공간의 상업시설, 디지털 미디어를 이용한 문화 및 전시시설 등이 복합돼 모든 비즈니스 및 라이프 활동이 한곳에서 이루어지는 미래형 건축물로 지어집니다.
건물의 형태는 구조적 안정성을 높이고 친환경 에너지 활용을 극대화한 중앙부가 트여있는 형태이며 외관은 4만여 개의 LED패널을 이용하여 다채로운 빛이 어우러지도록 설계하였습니다

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서울시의 친환경 인증 등급 중 최고 등급인 플래티넘 등급을 받도록 계획하였습니다.
풍력발전, 태양광에너지, 지열히트펌프, 태양열 급탕 등 다양한 신재생 에너지를 적극 사용하였습니다.
건물 중층부의 상부를 관통하는 Interface void를 건물 중앙에 두어 기류를 이용한 자연환기 및 자연채광 등이 가능한 친환경 공간을 구현, 초고층 건축물의 문제점인 채광 및 환기의 어려움을 해결하고, 개방감을 극대화하였습니다.

또한 저층부의 많은 옥상녹화는 내외부의 열에 대한 단열효과를 생성하여 냉난방 부하를 절감하도록 하였으며,건물외피계획에 있어 서 자동환기창을 설치하여 적정량의 신선한 공기를 공급하도록 하여 에너지를 최대한 절약하도록 계획하였습니다.

투수성 포장계획, 그린패널계획, 중수 및 우수 재활용 시스템, 육생 및 수생 비오톱 등 다양한 친환경 시스템을 대지 전체에 적용하였습니다.

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Motif is Korean Traditional Wall(봉수대).
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spire height is 655.5m(640m-Official)


서울 DMC 랜드마크 빌딩 층별 운영 계획(안)
층수 시설명 시설면적 운영주체
- 송수신탑 100㎡ AMC
132 ~ 133F 전망대 3,195.81㎡ CJ(CJ Entertainment Headquarters)
131F 방송시설 1,640.98㎡ MBC(MBC Broadcasting Headquarter-MBC News Desk-MBC 뉴스데스크 생방송 진행세트장)
128 ~ 130F 공연레스토랑 5,096.73㎡ 리츠칼튼(Ritz-Calton Hotel)
109 ~ 127F 호텔 37,791.76㎡ 리츠칼튼(Ritz-Calton Hotel Seoul Lite)
85 ~ 108F 가족호텔 51,286.17㎡ 메리어트(Mariotte Hotel)
46 ~ 84F 공동주택 85,691.61㎡ 대우건설(Apartment by Daewoo Prugio)
8 ~ 45F 오피스 120,132.85㎡ AMC(Asset Managemental Company)
7 ~ 8F 컨벤션 13,424.98㎡ 리츠칼튼
B1 ~ 8F 백화점, 쇼핑몰 141,865.64㎡ 신세계, AMC(Shinsegye Department store Seoul Lite),Shopping Mall
B1F, 1F 유비쿼터스체험관,디지털미디어체험관,아쿠아리움, 기업홍보관 9,632.79㎡AMC -Aquarium,Digital Media Center,Ubiquotus Center

시설면적합계 469,759.33㎡

^^^ I would love to work in the Ritz Carlton or the Marriott Hotel inside Seoul Lite!! But not until 2020 >_<

^^^ I would love to work in the Ritz Carlton or the Marriott Hotel inside Seoul Lite!! But not until 2020 >_<

haha~ do you want to work Ritz-Carlton or Marriott hotel inside seoul lite?
your dream will come true !

haha~ do you want to work Ritz-Carlton or Marriott hotel inside seoul lite?
your dream will come true !

Thanks T_T hopefully that will come true one day...I miss working as Room Operations Manager at Ritz Carlton in Washington DC. Too bad I left DC
and settled in NYC to look for something better

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Millenium Builder is another Name of the Seoul Lite Project's Main Developer.(Seoul Lite Asset Managemental Company-SLAMC)

Seoul lite tower's Origin Name was Millenium-tower!

Source-http://www.1000builder.com/kor/index.html

English version Click!

Floor Information(English)
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Usage of each story of the Seoul DMC Landmark Building
Story Facility Total area Tenant
- Transmitting tower 100㎡ AMC
132 ~ 133F Observation room 3,195.81㎡ CJ
131F Broadcasting facility 1,640.98㎡ MBC
128 ~ 130F Event restaurants 5,096.73㎡ Ritz Carlton
109 ~ 127F Hotels 37,791.76㎡ Ritz Carlton
85 ~ 108F Family hotels 51,286.17㎡ Marriott
46 ~ 84F Collective housing 85,691.61㎡ Daewoo Construction
8 ~ 45F Offices 120,132.85㎡ AMC
7 ~ 8F Conventions 13,424.98㎡ Ritz Carlton
B1 ~ 8F Department store, shopping mall 141,865.64㎡ Shinsegae, AMC
B1F, 1F Ubiquitous center,
digital media center,
aquarium,
corporate promotion center
9,632.79㎡ AMC
Total area 469,759.33㎡

Functions
Functions Facility Detail
Exchange Research & Business Advanced research & technology offices, such as digital & IT
Business Center Service offices (multi-national firms, preparation offices for entering Korea), SOHO offices, business incubation center
Convention Seminar room, large meeting room
Convergence PR New product exhibitions, special exhibitions, all-time exhibitions
Theme Ubiquitous, cutting-edge digital experience room, entertainment facility
Support Accommodation Hotel Accommodation for families of domestic and foreign visitors
Family Hotel Guest house for CEOs
Housing Apartment Digital apartments with a ubiquitous system
Consulting, Investment, Finance Law, accounting, patents, or investment companies
Commercial facility Department store, shopping mall, restaurants
Leisure Gallery, observation center, event hall, park


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This tower re-uses the main design idea from Dubais One Park Avenue (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=705098) but sadly it's not as cool and perfectly organic as the original.
But at least something gets build, I guess Dubais project is dead.

Will this one doesn't move much neither, sadly...

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best looking supertall, is this definitely getting built??

best looking supertall, is this definitely getting built??

yeah... but,Foundation work's Period for Development doesn't decided..
due to sub-Contractor(Daerim)-Developer's Conflict(Dispute)...
Bridge PF-Loan(Project Financing work) won't start...

I think this is not good news,but Aspect of Development,this is only Obstacle and adversity..

대우건설이 상암 랜드마크 빌딩 건립 사업비 마련을 위해 추진하던 토지 중도금 반환 협약 대출이 무산됐다.




발주처인 서울시가 토지 중도금 반환 채권 형태의 신용보강을 거부했기 때문이다. 재무적 투자자(FI)는 토지중도금 연체로 인한 사업 차질을 우려해 유상증자를 제안하고 나섰다.




최근 대우건설과 사업 시행사인 서울라이트타워는 건설사 보증 부담을 덜기 위해 서울시의 신용보강이 들어간 토지 중도금 반환 채권 담보 대출을 추진했다. 건설 투자자(CI)들이 지급 보증으로 인한 우발채무 증가를 우려하자 대안으로 토지 협약 대출을 검토한 것이다.




토지 협약 대출은 발주처인 서울시로부터 토지 중도금 반환 채권을 양도받아 이를 담보로 자금을 조달하는 것이다. 서울라이트는 토지 협약 대출로 1300억원을 마련해 서울시에 토지중도금 3회분(3~5회차)을 납입하려 했다.




그러나 서울시는 투자자들이 자체 신용으로 토지중도금을 조달하는 것이 원칙이라며 신용보강을 거부했다. 시는 택지 매각과정에서 토지 중도금 반환 채권 양도가 향후 발주 사업에 선례가 될 것을 우려하고 있다.




재무적 투자자(FI)도 토지 협약 대출 방식의 자금 조달에 부담을 느끼고 있다. 향후 이벤트(채무불이행)가 발생해도 원금을 회수하기가 간단치 않기 때문이다. 토지 중도금을 반환 받기 위해서는 공사가 진행된 토지를 다시 원래대로 돌려놓아야 한다. 토지를 원 상태로 바꾸는데 드는 비용과 하도급 업체에 지불할 공사대금 등을 제외하고 나면 투자원금이 얼마 남지 않는다.




재무적 투자자(FI)는 우선 유상증자로 연내에 800억원을 마련해 토지중도금을 납입하자며 중재에 나섰다. 당장 급한 불을 먼저 끈 뒤 차후 자금이 더 필요할 때 상황에 맞춰 다시 조달 구조를 짜자는 것이다. 서울라이트는 이미 지난 5월 14일 3회차 토지중도금 납입기일을 넘기면서 400억원을 연체 중이다.




사업 시행사인 서울라이트타워주식회사와 대우건설 관계자는 “PF-Loan이 진행되지 않을 경우 차선으로 유상증자를 고려하고 있다”고 말했다.




대주단 관계자는 “서울시와 재무적 투자자도 최근 건설사들의 자금여력이 넉넉하지 않다는 것을 알고 있다”며 “자금조달 해법을 찾기 위해서는 서로 조금씩 양보해야 한다”고 밝혔다.




상암 디지털미디어시티(DMC) 랜드마크 빌딩 건립사업은 최근 2대 건설 투자자(CI)인 대림산업이 PF지급보증을 거부하면서 자금조달이 지연됐다. 대림산업은 우발채무 증가를 우려해 보증을 거부하고 있다.




출자자들은 이달 중순 이사회에서 브릿지론 구조와 대체 시공사 선정 문제 등을 논의할 계획이다.

It very huge and beautiful tower but when it will start constructing?

It very huge and beautiful tower but when it will start constructing?

Groundbreaking Ceremony was held in October 2009,but Construction will be started in October,2010.

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It won't be the 2nd tallest in the world (assuming that it will be 640 meters high, as said in the title)- Burj Dubai is higher and that tower in Shenzen will be higher as well, and it's already U/C.

Sangam DMC Landmark, November construction ganeunghaldeut

Pangyo Yongsan international business district and only friends of the landmark complex large-scale projects, such as alpha-Dome City Financing (PF) project established a land bill faces an uphill fight to the problem of the Sangam DMC Landmark Building Construction saeopman have been paying my rates. As its goal the construction seems to be coming in November.

Performed 26 days Sangam DMC Landmark Building signs such as Seoul, Seoul, according to Wright and Wright on October 27 in Seoul, Seoul Sangam DMC Landmark Building Construction for the construction project is expected to apply for consideration. Upon completion of the architectural review and construction permit obtained in November as originally planned, will chakgonghal.

This specific funding for the land and pay the bills paid, and business promotion plan has been prepared well.

Seoul Light 25 Shareholders of land, especially to the middle of August plans to come up with ways to pay bills. Seoul, August 15 th Light jeungjana billion loan fund, etc. up to 1200 and established measures. This past May was scheduled to land late payment charges Moderate gold in Seoul (400 billion) plan that is paid. And in November this year (400 million) and May next year (400 million) of land scheduled for Mid-Payment of bills to raise the funds to pay the plans.


3,600 billion of total duration or cancellation of the land bill payments scheduled for 1200 billion 1200 100 million won and 100 million won and interest, except 1200 (400 million), construction, etc. in the second half of next year, plans to arrange with PF.

Seoul, an official of Light, "the original asset-backed commercial paper in May (ABCP) of the land through a 40 billion won Mid-Payment arrange payment plans as a delinquent, but guarantee problems," said "Up to August 1200 to 15 billion won Increased funding will afford the other way, "he explained.

Light is the capital of Seoul launched at the 1540 Capital: 100 million won to 100 million won to increase the size of Shareholders 3500 and subsequently agreed to the current situation can be increased to 1,960 billion won.

Wright, Seoul officials "to pass architectural review is September 11, In a full-scale construction will be possible," said "the conclusion of deliberation, Seoul, also reported in September," he said.

Sangam DMC Landmark Building, 133 stories above the ground floor of the basement 9 H (640m) Surface low as 4,675 ㎡ 720,000 million. Scheduled for completion in 2015 the hotel and apartments and commercial facilities and office building will house.

Meanwhile, China's largest construction sign CSCEC Sangam DMC Landmark Building the meantime, I had requested to participate in construction guarantees the problem of PF in recent years to participate in construction were abandoned.


Focus-Sangam DMC Landmark Tower(Seoul Lite) will start Construction in November,2010.

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News
1.According to Local News,Seoul Lite will Restart Permission's Discussion for Tower Construction in December(First Permission was cancelled).
2.Groundbreaking Construction will start soon.(December or 2011 january)
3.Fence Demolition work started.
4.Seoul Lite Site office Construction will start soon.

That's good news !

The construction is sure now or the next permission's discussion still could obstruct the project ? This discussion is just about the calendar (december or not), nothing else, right ?

I'm so impatient to see this tower rising ! :)

Keep wishing. It could be a long time before this rises, if ever. South Korea is notorious for never building their megatalls. But I hope that it rises as well. Seoul could really use some very tall buildings.

so this prep is a real deal now, that's awesome, but i stay careful before cheering. for those uberhigh things we never know

why is it only asia that makes these development projects far from anything, all the supertalls are on "superblocks" so un original and really terribly planned for the 21st century. you would think that skyline density would come from having many towers around eachother naturally built, asias skylines are going to have really tall towers and then nothing around them....just saying. they arent made naturally in the same way other skylines have been "created". china = artificial. cant stand it

Asians started building supertalls more from lack of space than trying to top the skylines. I guess?

asias skylines are going to have really tall towers and then nothing around them....

o_O
what are you talking about... is there anything more dense than all this asian cities? they are needed...

why is it only asia that makes these development projects far from anything, all the supertalls are on "superblocks" so un original and really terribly planned for the 21st century. you would think that skyline density would come from having many towers around eachother naturally built, asias skylines are going to have really tall towers and then nothing around them....just saying. they arent made naturally in the same way other skylines have been "created". china = artificial. cant stand it

My opinion is that in the age of the automobile, a variety of mass-transit options, the internet, mobile telecommunications, and political democracy, physical urban centralization is less necessary to government and business interests than it ever has been before, and that in an age of high and growing human population, as much land as possible probably ought to be preserved for farms. Additionally, when high densities are combined with a high degree of land-use decentralization, the entire urban fabric can be as vibrant and lively as an ordinary downtown.

My understanding is that most East Asian cities tend to be highly dense, and highly decentralized;
most European, African, Middle Eastern and South American cities tend to be moderately dense, and somewhat more centralized; and most North American and Australian cities tend to be lower density, and highly centralized.

I think Asian cities, therefore, are two for two.

I also just personally like seeing skyscrapers scattered throughout the urban fabric, as in Seoul and Tokyo. I wonder why there should have to be a Central Business District in a modern city, let alone just one.

o_O
what are you talking about... is there anything more dense than all this asian cities? they are needed...

I think he's talking about dubai. But most other asian cities actually have to build skyscrapers because of over population unlike dubai that does it just because.

I also just personally like seeing skyscrapers scattered throughout the urban fabric, as in Seoul and Tokyo. I wonder why there should have to be a Central Business District in a modern city, let alone just one.

I like that they have many CBDs in asian cities. It makes the city look massive and powerfull somehow, skyscrapers are all over the place, not just in one centralized little spot, boring.

Oh by the way, there is no movement on this project. But the area around Digital Media City is going crazy with construction.

I like that they have many CBDs in asian cities. It makes the city look massive and powerfull somehow, skyscrapers are all over the place, not just in one centralized little spot, boring.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that this idea of a skyline being centralized in one spot is originally American, or at least western.

Some centralized skylines look amazing, some don't. I hate the ones that have nothing but ugly low-rise buildings surrounding them after you leave the CBD. The change in height should be gradual.With multiple skylines around the city height seems like a rollercoaster, which I love.

In fact most major cities in the world have more than one skyline. NY has downtown Manhattan, midtown, Brooklyn,... London has the City, CW, Houston has downtown, midtown, Texas Medical Centre, Tokyo has Shinjuku, Minato, Chiyoda,... , Sydney, LA, Toronto, blah blah blah. The point is they are well planed skylines. On the other hand, other cities have skylines look really big but crap! especially when it comes to Seoul and Bangkok. In term of floor count, Seoul is ahead of NY but NY is far far far ahead and Bangkok which has as many skyscrapers as Chicago is nothing compare to Chitown.

So imo, a city which has its skyline spread out in a chaotic way is not a powerful city but a new money one!

Sorry to bring this one way up from the depths, especially because it's off-topic, but there seem to be three rather tall buildings going up in Mapo-gu, roughly around where it looks like this building would be. I can't find anything on the CTBUH page for Seoul that would match them, nor anything here. Anyone have any idea what they could be? If not, I'll try to get down there this week/weekend and take pictures/gather information.

Also, any news on Seoul Lite?

Sorry to bring this one way up from the depths, especially because it's off-topic, but there seem to be three rather tall buildings going up in Mapo-gu, roughly around where it looks like this building would be. I can't find anything on the CTBUH page for Seoul that would match them, nor anything here. Anyone have any idea what they could be? If not, I'll try to get down there this week/weekend and take pictures/gather information.

Also, any news on Seoul Lite?
I will upload Recent Press Releases about Seoul Lite Landmark Tower
I saw this recent News,bad News(Development Scale's Change-70 floor).and Floor's Reduction Disussion about 151 Incheon Tower is under way,Floor will be 102 or 80 floor. Development's Plan Change Boom. 151 Incheon Tower's Discussion between Major Developer will be completed in October.

So sad NEWS

Seoul Lite is on crisis
There is argue between project company and Seoul Goverment.

Project Association want to One 77 Floors Tower+ Two 55 Floors Residential.

But Seoul Goverment persist on 133 Floors. But Money is problem.:ohno:

http://media.daum.net/economic/view.html?cateid=100019&newsid=20110706165914527&p=moneytoday&t__nil_economy=uptxt&nil_id=4

So sad NEWS

Seoul Lite is on crisis
There is argue between project company and Seoul Goverment.

Project Association want to One 77 Floors Tower+ Two 55 Floors Residential.

But Seoul Goverment persist on 133 Floors. But Money is problem.:ohno:

http://media.daum.net/economic/view.html?cateid=100019&newsid=20110706165914527&p=moneytoday&t__nil_economy=uptxt&nil_id=4

thank you for uploading news inno4321!

So sad NEWS

Seoul Lite is on crisis
There is argue between project company and Seoul Goverment.

Project Association want to One 77 Floors Tower+ Two 55 Floors Residential.

But Seoul Goverment persist on 133 Floors. But Money is problem.:ohno:

http://media.daum.net/economic/view.html?cateid=100019&newsid=20110706165914527&p=moneytoday&t__nil_economy=uptxt&nil_id=4

As neat as having 3-4 500m+ towers in Seoul would be, I'd be just as happy to see another 300m and two more 200m towers go up, especially because Mapo-gu doesn't have much of a skyline right now.

So sad NEWS

Seoul Lite is on crisis
There is argue between project company and Seoul Goverment.

Project Association want to One 77 Floors Tower+ Two 55 Floors Residential.

But Seoul Goverment persist on 133 Floors. But Money is problem.:ohno:

http://media.daum.net/economic/view.html?cateid=100019&newsid=20110706165914527&p=moneytoday&t__nil_economy=uptxt&nil_id=4
Seoul is a city of loser developers. Very disappointed at the greedy developers who may like nothing more than looking out for their bottom line by building more ugly commie apartments. No wonder Seoul's skyline seems to have no business of being a design city. Seoul must not give into these filthy investors but they must find someone else who will insist on a supertall in Seoul.
BTW, how is money a problem when the green eyed monsters want 3 buildings instead of a super one?
After several decades of all dream projects in Seoul the only note worthy landmark building still remains is the 63 building.
Seoul makes me cry all the time.

Seoul is a city of loser developers. Very disappointed at the greedy developers who may like nothing more than looking out for their bottom line by building more ugly commie apartments. No wonder Seoul's skyline seems to have no business of being a design city. Seoul must not give into these filthy investors but they must find someone else who will insist on a supertall in Seoul.
BTW, how is money a problem when the green eyed monsters want 3 buildings instead of a super one?
After several decades of all dream projects in Seoul the only note worthy landmark building still remains is the 63 building.
Seoul makes me cry all the time.

Me too "Seoul makes me cry all the time."

Daewoo and Daerim must learn a lesson from Samsung's case.
Samsung give up "dreamhub" after that they damage at "Parc1"
Now dreamhub gear up again! But parc1 hold on.
Let this be an example to Daewoo and Daerim :ohno:

As neat as having 3-4 500m+ towers in Seoul would be, I'd be just as happy to see another 300m and two more 200m towers go up, especially because Mapo-gu doesn't have much of a skyline right now.
Right ~~~ Mapo-gu doesn't have much of a skyline right now. Now it's time for booming


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Yup!its time to seoul booming!

This building looks awesome and I'd really like to see it built. It would be really cool if Seoul would become the new NYC :banana2:

It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.

It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.

Yeah, it will never become NYC since it has a completely different history, geography, and is not an immigrant city
(although foreign population is growing but not enough to see many races out in the streets like NYC and Korea itself
is not really an immigrant country)

But one thing to clarity things a bit, Seoul is NOT a prefecture (this is only used in Japan) :nuts::bash::lol::banana:

Special City: Seoul

Metropolicatn Cities: Busan, Daegu, Incheon, Gwangu, Daejeon, Ulsan

Provinces: Gyeonggi (part of Greater Seoul Area), Gangwon (where Pyeongchang is located for the 2018 Winter Olympics), Chungcheongbukm Chungcheongnam, Jeollabuk-do, Jeollanam-do, Gyeongsandbuk-do, Gyeongsangnam-do are provinces and

Special Self-governing province: Jeju Island

^^I think the point was that New York, statistically/demographically speaking, is a much smaller and denser area, at least when considering the area people think of when they think of New York (primarily Manhattan). There just isn't really a need for the sort of skyscraper building in Seoul that there is in Manhattan. That being said, I do think the city deserves at least three 300m+ buildings, and a lot more 200-300m ones; that is, assuming it wants a decent skyline. It's just too spread out as it is right now.

Although I do have to ask Mr. krkseg1ops, New York is built on oil? Are you sure you have the right country? New York is built on financial services. That is also a major difference between Seoul and New York.

Well, I personally like the idea of a few 500m+ towers far better than the idea of a lot of 200m+ towers.

Well, I personally like the idea of a few 500m+ towers far better than the idea of a lot of 200m+ towers.

but i like the idea of a lot 200m building actually being built over a few 500m buildings not being built at all. but i think seould can actually build one of these. i dont think two will be built at the same time. i stay sceptical until they actually rise, but of course it would be nice

It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.
^^Great understanding :banana::banana:

^^I think the point was that New York, statistically/demographically speaking, is a much smaller and denser area, at least when considering the area people think of when they think of New York (primarily Manhattan). There just isn't really a need for the sort of skyscraper building in Seoul that there is in Manhattan. That being said, I do think the city deserves at least three 300m+ buildings, and a lot more 200-300m ones; that is, assuming it wants a decent skyline. It's just too spread out as it is right now.

Although I do have to ask Mr. krkseg1ops, New York is built on oil? Are you sure you have the right country? New York is built on financial services. That is also a major difference between Seoul and New York.
^^ Right NYC is world No 1 city. Yesterday i saw a NYC documentary(Let's city make it brand! I♡NY Story) in KBS.

This building looks awesome and I'd really like to see it built. It would be really cool if Seoul would become the new NYC
^^ I really Hope so. But New York is :eek2:

but i like the idea of a lot 200m building actually being built over a few 500m buildings not being built at all. but i think seould can actually build one of these. i dont think two will be built at the same time. i stay sceptical until they actually rise, but of course it would be nice

^^ Correct, Unfortunately, this 640m project is almost canceled.
Remain Only Lotte Seoul tower/Hyundai Tower/DreamHub It is like Seoul skyscraper "tournament 2011". So cruel ~ Dead or Live.

Is this tower really going to be cancelled? Damn, another fine project going to waste

Is this tower really going to be cancelled? Damn, another fine project going to waste

^^Unfortunately, Consortium want to built One 77fl and two 55fl rather than Only One 640m tower.

But Seoul goverment persist on 640m tower. I'm not sure whether this project is cancelled or succeed.

Even the 77-floor tower would probably be well over 300m, maybe closer to 400m, and the 55-floor ones would probably be about 250m or so. That'd still be great.

Even the 77-floor tower would probably be well over 300m, maybe closer to 400m, and the 55-floor ones would probably be about 250m or so. That'd still be great.
Please, no more hideous commie apartments in Seoul for God's sake!

^^ Correct, Unfortunately, this 640m project is almost canceled.
Remain Only Lotte Seoul tower/Hyundai Tower/DreamHub It is like Seoul skyscraper "tournament 2011". So cruel ~ Dead or Live.

only one 500m+ building can survive ~ :lol:

so sad

Please, no more hideous commie apartments in Seoul for God's sake!

Short need not equally boring or ugly. Seoul has a lot of potential, and it's not all vertical.

only one 500m+ building can survive ~ :lol:

so sad

:banana:

It will never become the new NYC because it doesn't want to. NYC is a metropolis built on oil and immigrants whereas Seoul prefecture is a massive, 2000 years old area with something close to 50% of the total Korea's population located comfortably in a vast region.

Besides that, Seoul will have to work hard to come even close to the atmosphere and charisma of NYC.

Short need not equally boring or ugly. Seoul has a lot of potential, and it's not all vertical.
True, height of building may not necessarily mean practicality. Nonetheless, it gets attention and some bragging rights as well.
Can you pick out a skyscraper in Seoul that inspires others by size or design sophistication? I just can't think of any...

True, height of building may not necessarily mean practicality. Nonetheless, it gets attention and some bragging rights as well.
Can you pick out a skyscraper in Seoul that inspires others by size or design sophistication? I just can't think of any...

No. The closest right now is probably the 63 Building, and that's more because it's iconic than anything else. If Seoul wants to be a "design city", it's got to be willing to be inventive and original. Here's to hoping the 77-story building is a super crazy design:lol:.

No. The closest right now is probably the 63 Building, and that's more because it's iconic than anything else. If Seoul wants to be a "design city", it's got to be willing to be inventive and original. Here's to hoping the 77-story building is a super crazy design:lol:.

^^
Now negociation with Seoul Goverment and Seoul Lite Inc.

-Dead line is 28, August.
-Seoul Lite Inc proposed 2 options
First proposal construct to 100 floors land mark tower and Two other 55 floors residences
Second proposal construct to 77 floors land mark tower and Two other 55 floors residences.

-Seoul goverment persist on 133 floors land mark tower.

Maybe .....After lengthy talks the two sides finally reached a compromise!

Hopefully Seoul have 4(IBD/LOTTE/GBC/SEOUL LITE) 100floors.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3472/216766.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/216766.jpg/)
http://cafe.daum.net/skyscrapers/9144/27349

oh so badly there are signs this may get smaller. i hope it will at least have the 100 floors, 77 would just be disappointing now

oh so badly there are signs this may get smaller. i hope it will at least have the 100 floors, 77 would just be disappointing now

^^ Agree with you KillerZavatar!!! I also hopefully at least 100floors.

77 floors so disappointed.

In my opinion even the 100 floors are a dissapointment. I agree with the government, I want 133 floors :storm:

But this (unfortunately) shows how unprofitable really tall buildings are. This is government here who wants taller building not business people.

Guys, 77 floors would still make it one of the tallest buildings in the city. I'd be very happy to see something this height equivalent (probably around 330m?) go up.

But this (unfortunately) shows how unprofitable really tall buildings are. This is government here who wants taller building not business people.

yeah thats true.

A ray of hope but what is this negotiation on building height? Tell the greedy passionless commie apartment lovers to get the hell out.

In my opinion even the 100 floors are a dissapointment. I agree with the government, I want 133 floors :storm:
ME TOO!!! I WANT 133 FLOORS. Not only seoul government but also seoul lite nearside citizens want to landmark tower.


But this (unfortunately) shows how unprofitable really tall buildings are. This is government here who wants taller building not business people.

YEAP. Supertalls need a big money rather than common building.

Guys, 77 floors would still make it one of the tallest buildings in the city. I'd be very happy to see something this height equivalent (probably around 330m?) go up.

Right. 77 floors is one of the tallest building in Seoul.

A ray of hope but what is this negotiation on building height? Tell the greedy passionless commie apartment lovers to get the hell out.

I'm also sick and tired with commie apartment.
GBC/IBD/LOTTE is located in EAST seoul. Otherwise west seoul is stricted by airplane heights. So unbalance skyline compare east with west.
So Seoul lite have to built over 100floors.

^^I don't think that's really true. Sangam-dong, where this is supposed to be built, isn't too far west of Yeouido, right across the river and a major area of skyscraper development. I still think that it would be better for Seoul to pursue smaller (in height), more extensive (in area), and more design-oriented development than trying to compete on height and floor count alone. After all, most cities can't make a case for multiple 100+ floor-buildings, but for a city like Seoul it's very easy to make a case for fifty 20-floor buildings that all happen to feature original and fascinating architecture. After all, Seoul was 2010's Global Design City, not its 2010 Global Tallest Buildings City, and I think that that's just fine.

^^ I don't have anything against 20 floor buildings, however, without a leader they would look just like a pile of crates. They need a leader and with leader I mean a supertall :banana2: This is the recipe for an awesome skyline in my opinion :dunno:

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/856/88888888888888888888888r.png (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/88888888888888888888888r.png/)
2017 Seoul New Skyline:banana::banana::banana:
From Left
1-330m Yeuido(IFC/Parc1)
2-485m/330m/320m IBD
3-Either 430m or 330m Seoul Lite
4-540m Hyundai & Kia Headquater
5-550m Lotte Seoul

gives us a nice idea of the future, but the buildings' designs are well outdated! I kinda wish the buildings were not quite as spread out as well...

gives us a nice idea of the future, but the buildings' designs are well outdated! I kinda wish the buildings were not quite as spread out as well...

^^ Agree with your opinion.
Seoul supertalls are spread out. Dubai is planned city. Otherwise seoul's skyline is redevelopment....At that reason skyline is spread out.(very saddly)

As I am seoul citizens, seoul's commie apartment and outdated design is not my taste. This is time for innovation building design.

oh wow inno that picture is fucking awesome

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/856/88888888888888888888888r.png (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/88888888888888888888888r.png/)
2017 Seoul New Skyline:banana::banana::banana:
From Left
1-330m Yeuido(IFC/Parc1)
2-485m/330m/320m IBD
3-Either 430m or 330m Seoul Lite
4-540m Hyundai & Kia Headquater
5-550m Lotte Seoul

amazing :nuts:

nice, but these supertalls are like monoliths in the landscape. I agree that they fit better in a cluster.

I think it's worth noting that those heights are exaggerated by about 33%. The top of Seoul Tower on top of Namsan is 499m high, so only Lotte Tower would look anything like that size from this perspective.

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7213/seoullite21.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7201/31836491.png
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/680/23701803.png
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2847/viewd07251.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2866/viewe07251.jpg

nice, but these supertalls are like monoliths in the landscape. I agree that they fit better in a cluster.
I like it the way it is. It's something a little different than the usual clusters.

640m >> Top 10 tallest buildings in the World

640m >> Top 10 tallest buildings in the World

top 5 buildings. even if new buildings come into shape into the next years. right now there is only india tower, pin'an and burj khalifa.

How long has this been under prep?

How long has this been under prep?

From 2008 to 2012
Delayed Due to world financial crisis. But 1 months ago recovery...Now "fast track" :)

From 2008 to 2012
Delayed Due to world financial crisis. But 1 months ago recovery...Now "fast track" :)

Well then. :cheers:

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/7074/dmcbusancase.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6360/seoul20light20section20.jpg

is there a hole in the middle?

^^ Can there be a hole in the middle? Wouldn't the building be too weak with a so dull core? :dunno:

You are right, call SOM office and tell them they had designed a building which would not stand on its own.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8388/45842254373430.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/45842254373430.jpg/)

Daily seoul lite news
Seoul goverment reject "seoul lite pfv"'s suggestion which decrease tower's height from 133floors(640m) to 100floors

Accorddint to the Seoul goverment Mr park byong hun who team master of Seoul DMC,
Today(2/12/2011) Seoul goverment reject developer's suggestion.
"Seoul lite tower is going to symbol of seoul city. Therefore tower's height decrease is absolutely unacceptable." said Mr park byong hun who team master of Seoul DMC

By the way developer(daewoo construction INC) of seoul lite, Suggested new plan which decrease tower's height to 100floors and constructed another two residential building(each 50floors)

Eventualy, Seoul and developer negociation with another suggestion which expanded residential rate instead of miniumized decrease tower's height over 100 floors(probably 500~550m)

IMO Seoul lite(520m)+one Residential building(70floors)

I can live with that. Lets start this project soon!

You are right, call SOM office and tell them they had designed a building which would not stand on its own.

Sorry for the off topic comment but, Thanks for the laugh :hilarious

I can't wait for this building to rise!

So assuming all of the projects in Seoul go through, we'll still have 4 buildings 100 floors or more, and 4 buildings 500m or more. Cool :D.

So assuming all of the projects in Seoul go through, we'll still have 4 buildings 100 floors or more, and 4 buildings 500m or more. Cool :D.

It is very awesome and unusual phenomena through executive approval,surprisingly,there are more 100 floor scale building project in seoul metropolitan city. I will write and explain threads about unveiled and proposed projects!

Due to korean constant challenge and technological innovation and superiority,i think it is possible to build many supertall building projects like dubai,new york,other chinese cities.

Alternative proposal on developer - 103 floor landmark tower and 70 stories residential complex.
This is press fact from yesterday headline. Refer coming korean news! I will cover constant development news and situations.

reject building to be smaller is music in my ears :D

Maybe the design will change, the current one is not bad, but not awesome either.

I hope there will be a "normal" version of this, the lite version is not enough :D

Maybe even a premium version for those who contribute to the building!

Maybe even a premium version for those who contribute to the building!

with weekly builds! :lol:

So this project is on "fast track" now, huh? But what does it actualy mean? Can we expect any action in 2012 or is it still too early?

Btw I don't mind height reduction - 500m+ is still proper high for the landmark. And the design itself, well maybe not the most beautifull but surelly interesting, there is not much towers (espacially that tall towers) with a huge atrium inside. Jin Mao, and Burj Al Arab comes to mind and thats it actually.

I prefer the old design. They appear like two spaceships about to ascend into the stars. The organic twisting shape of the new one is fast becoming cliche... It doesn't even seem particularly striking or original, and certainly doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the horizon considering how tall it is.

So this project is on "fast track" now, huh? But what does it actualy mean? Can we expect any action in 2012 or is it still too early?

Btw I don't mind height reduction - 500m+ is still proper high for the landmark. And the design itself, well maybe not the most beautifull but surelly interesting, there is not much towers (espacially that tall towers) with a huge atrium inside. Jin Mao, and Burj Al Arab comes to mind and thats it actually.
^^ Actually "fast track" is only for "IBD-Young san business disrict redevelopment project". "fast track" words came from "kick-off ceremony of IBD" in november 2011.
Therefore "fast track" have no relationship with this project("Seoul lite").

Two days ago, Seoul goverment reject developer suggestion.
If developer give up this project, seoul goverment would select another company again.(time delay). But i think "daewoo constrction INC" will not give up this tower. Maybe they will compromise(500m~520m) with seoul Gov.

But I guess any action in 2012~2013(Construction permit)

Right as you say "500m+ is still proper high for the landmark." Btw westside of seoul is strict limited to the "building heights by "airplane way".
This tower have to face-landmark of west seoul. :)


I prefer the old design. They appear like two spaceships about to ascend into the stars. The organic twisting shape of the new one is fast becoming cliche... It doesn't even seem particularly striking or original, and certainly doesn't seem to have much of an impact on the horizon considering how tall it is.

^^Yeap. Probably this design will be changed again.

First design in very nice fom me. I hope, it will start build as soon as possible.:banana:

this is now a megatall
https://store.ctbuh.org/p-91-future-tallest-20-in-2020.aspx

this is now a megatall
https://store.ctbuh.org/p-91-future-tallest-20-in-2020.aspx
http://www.ctbuh.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=M0GYftI6cgI%3d&tabid=2926&language=en-US

^^I really don't know why they'd bother making a poster like that. It's already incorrect.

Wow, nice diagram, thanks for posting it :drool:

가시밭길’ 걷는 상암DMC랜드마크 건립사업
기사입력 2011-12-20 21:00:04 l 폰트

층수↓주거비율↑ 사업계획변경안,서울시 반대로 사실상 무산


　민간사업자,‘제3안’ 마련해 재협의…토지대금 연체는 계속

　서울을 상징하는 초고층빌딩이 될 것으로 기대를 모았던 상암DMC랜드마크타워(서울라이트타워) 건립사업이 난항을 거듭하고 있다.

　층수를 낮추고 주거비율을 상향조정하는 등 사업성을 개선하고자 했던 민간사업자의 사업계획변경안이 사실상 무산됐기 때문이다.

　20일 관련 업계에 따르면 서울라이트타워가 마련한 사업계획변경안에 대해 서울시가 최근 공문을 보내 반대의사를 전달한 것으로 확인됐다.

　층고를 크게 낮추면 애초 갖고 있던 랜드마크로서의 상징성이 소멸되고 주거비율을 높이면 분양에 대한 부담만 증가한다는 것이다.

　또 상암DMC 일대가 도시계획에 따라 개발되는 만큼 특정 사업의 수익성을 위해 계획을 변경할 수는 없다는 게 시의 대략적인 입장이다.

　서울라이트타워는 금융위기 이후 계속된 경기침체와 자금조달 실패 등으로 초기계획 수정이 불가피 하다고 판단, 올 8월 변경안을 만들어 시와 협의에 나섰다.

　변경안은 공사비를 절감하고 미분양 부담을 줄이기 위해 133층을 100층 규모로 낮추고, 50층 규모의 건물을 추가로 건립하는 등의 내용을 골자로 한다.

　또 분양대금을 포함한 투자 등 자금조달을 원활하게 하고 사업성을 높이고자 아파트 등 주거비율을 상향조정해야 한다는 내용도 포함돼 있다.

　서울라이트 관계자는 “이렇게 하면 공사비를 크게 줄이고 공기를 앞당길 수 있을뿐 아니라, 분양가를 낮춰 미분양을 줄이고 사업성을 높이는 효과도 거둘 수 있을 것”이라고 말했다.

　하지만 서울시는 이같은 변경안에 대해 거부입장을 분명히 밝혔고, 층고 및 주거비율 조정 등 계획변경은 사실상 무산됐다.

　결국 지난해 11월(일부)과 올해 5월 납부해야 했던 토지대금은 여전히 연체중이며, 그로인한 이자 등 금융비용만 기하급수적으로 불어나고 있다.

　그러나 사업시행자 서울라이트타워는 물론, 사업참여자들은 최초 계획대로의 사업추진은 도저히 불가능하다고 보고 있다.

　‘제3의 대안’을 마련, 추진해야 한다는 것이다.

　이에 따라 서울라이트타워는 시가 요구하는 타워의 상징성을 살리면서도, 공사비 및 공기를 줄이고 사업성은 높일 수 있는 방안을 마련, 재차 협의에 나설 계획이다.

　사업자로 참여한 모건설사 관계자는 “제3안을 마련하고 있는 과정 중인 관계로 구체적인 내용은 아직 확정되지 않았다”며 “다만 시의 의견을 일정부분 수용하고 절충하는 형태가 되지 않겠느냐”고 말했다.

　“다만 사업이 이미 상당기간 지연된 만큼 변경계획을 서둘러 마련해야 하므로, 변경안 수립과정 중에도 시와 지속적으로 협의해 나가야 하는 상황이”이라고 덧붙였다.

　업계는 이에 대해 층수 및 주거비율 조정 폭을 적정 수준으로 절충하면서, 토지대금 납부시한 및 일정 등을 연기 또는 늦추는 내용이 주가 아니겠냐고 추측하고 있다.

　또 일부는 경우에 따라서는 지난 12·7 부동산대책 중 공모형PF(프로젝트파이낸싱) 활성화방안에 의해 설립되는 조정위원회의 조정을 받을 가능성도 있다고 내다봤다.

봉승권기자 skbong@

〈앞선생각 앞선신문 건설경제-무단전재 및 배포금지〉
http://www.cnews.co.kr/uhtml/read.jsp?idxno=201112201327403660735

Summary

From agust to december developer and seoul goverment negociation for DMC landmark tower.
Actually developer ask to decreased height and floors of Landmarktower(from 130fl to 100fl also construct another 50fl residences)
Finally Developer's suggestion rejected by seoul goverment. Seoul geverment want to not normal residence but landmark tower

So developer start 3rd negociation with Seoul which financial cost cut instead of decreased tower height .

As soon as possible Developer looking forward to begin construction due to project delyed and financial buget are damged to developer company.

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Probably tower's height at least 550m:banana:

No height reduction? That's awesome news. The taller the better :banana2:

^^ 550m is not 640m but still enough tall to make it landmark.

^^ I dunno but maybe 550m will be roof height and 640m will be pinnacle height :dunno:

No Kanto, you are the only person in the world using roof heights ;)

No height reduction? That's awesome news. The taller the better :banana2:
^^ Yeap awesome news. Seoul goverment rejected 100floor suggestion.

Therefore DMC tower at least over 100floors
By the way 640m is impossible for developer company.
:lol:

^^ 550m is not 640m but still enough tall to make it landmark.


^^:) Agree dear patrykus.
DMC tower will be good landscape with beside "triple one"

^^ I dunno but maybe 550m will be roof height and 640m will be pinnacle height :dunno:

Under the current design, the roof height is 538.4m.

Of course, it would be landmark.

I hoped for less height reduction! 100 meters off the original height is quite disappointing.

indeed, especially because they cut down the height of the tallest in south korea.

Under the current design, the roof height is 538.4m.

what is this source? CTBUH?

what is this source? CTBUH?

Source: Elevation drawing supplied by SOM. Tip of spire: 640.4m
top of crown: 611.4m

^^ So thats the old height thats going to be reduced..

^^ So thats the old height thats going to be reduced..

Yes. Hopefully they will build to the those heights.

Source: Elevation drawing supplied by SOM. Tip of spire: 640.4m
top of crown: 611.4m

is this source confidential?
So,can you get Information about Busan Lotte Town Tower Project's Underground height and Exact Builidng Height by SOM?

is this source confidential?
So,can you get Information about Busan Lotte Town Tower Project's Underground height and Exact Builidng Height by SOM?

If you mean the drawings...yes, they are confidential and I can't post them. But there is nothing wrong about posting the numbers, since they are already available on the CTBUH Tall Building Database.

Busan Lotte Town Tower:

Tip of spire - 510.1m
Penthouse roof - 430.6
Highest occupied floor - 416.3
Lowest basement level: - 31.29m

All measurements are taken from the first floor plate at ground level and entrance.

Thank you Vito for the height data :cheers:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/530/img1761b.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6135/img1762gz.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6140/img1763a.jpg
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Construction will restart in October.

About time we got an update on this, thanks.

Waiting for the final design, that might take a while longer I'm afraid.

Construction will restart in October.

excellent

Korea do we know anything about the final height of this one? Will it be reduced, or stay 640m?

Korea do we know anything about the final height of this one? Will it be reduced, or stay 640m?

will be reduced...

Do you know the exact height?

will be reduced...

awwwwwh what a shame :ohno:

comments like this are even more boring

Do you know the exact height?

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1641/9999k.jpg (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/9999k.jpg/)

At the moment negociation with central goverment for reduce floors from 133fl to 100fl(+ TWO 50fl tower).

if the spire stays the same. i looked at the skyscraperpage diagram and counted 33 floors in the middle which are about 120-140m

so if the design stays the same and the spire stays as long the total height of the Tower will be 500m to 520m after my calculation. :cheers:

sadly it means, this project will not stay the tallest in seoul anymore, also then all hope lies on triple one for a megatall.

More than about its height I care about its design. I mean I don't really like that much how it looks from outside but I am really interested about this huge atrium Som designed for this one. i just hope with its height the design won't be altered, because such atrium's are something really rare in tall skyscrapers.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6360/seoul20light20section20.jpg

More than about its height I care about its design. I mean I don't really like that much how it looks from outside but I am really interested about this huge atrium Som designed for this one. i just hope with its height the design won't be altered, because such atrium's are something really rare in tall skyscrapers.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6360/seoul20light20section20.jpg

i kinda have to agree, the design is indeed unique. i also think the exterior design is amazing, it is one of the few buildings where a huge spire actually fits perfectly into the design, also its in a way modern and slim without overdoing it :cheers:

Sadly it means, this project will not stay the tallest in seoul anymore, also then all hope lies on triple one for a megatall.

I really don't know why the CTBUH set the standard for megatall at >600m. Even now, there are exceptionally few towers around the world that fit this definition, either in construction or the planning stages. I really think that >500m would've been a more useful height.
Anyway, I'm just glad to hear that this project isn't dead. Especially because the height drop means that the tower will be accompanied by two 50-floor buildings (I'd wager probably around 250m each), it won't stick out like quite the ridiculously sore thumb it would have otherwise. And I also am curious to see how that atrium design turns out. Can you imagine looking straight up and seeing a 40-floor hole in the middle of the building:nuts:?

I really don't know why the CTBUH set the standard for megatall at >600m. Even now, there are exceptionally few towers around the world that fit this definition, either in construction or the planning stages. I really think that >500m would've been a more useful height.

i think the reason they chose 600m is because it is exactly twice as tall as a supertall and by that it makes sense and is easy to compare. In 10 years 600m buildings may be like 500m buildings are now, so it will still become a useful height for comparison with time and is already in my opinion. :cheers:

Anyway, I'm just glad to hear that this project isn't dead. Especially because the height drop means that the tower will be accompanied by two 50-floor buildings (I'd wager probably around 250m each), it won't stick out like quite the ridiculously sore thumb it would have otherwise.

i just hope that these two buildings will nicely fit with the design of the main tower. hopefully the whole design won't change much with the decrease of the height and maybe the smaller towers will also be designed by the same architects that would at least make the whole thing look great i guess. And yeah all these giant projects in seoul are far from each other and this one isn't surrounded by already existing skyscrapers, which makes it quite cool that 50fl buildings are supposed to rise with it. :banana:

And I also am curious to see how that atrium design turns out. Can you imagine looking straight up and seeing a 40-floor hole in the middle of the building:nuts:?
i am already amazed by 6-story malls looking up and down. but 40 story atrium will be killer :nuts:

maybe slightly off topic but here we go:

atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
http://www.imaginature.nl/pages/Dubai/images/911461sg.jpg

atrium at Jin Mao (115m - 31 floors):
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6239/6276658042_0050736417_b.jpg


I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there.

wow i never knew about them, this is just amazing :cheers:

other big atrium: The Grand Doubletree

maybe slightly off topic but here we go:

atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
http://www.imaginature.nl/pages/Dubai/images/911461sg.jpg

atrium at Jin Mao (115m - 31 floors):
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6239/6276658042_0050736417_b.jpg


I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there.

Both of these atriums look beautiful but I'd rather have a massive concrete core in the middle of a building than such an atrium :dunno:

Well guys at Som's seems to disagree on that one. But who are they? Just an architect studio with almost century of experience :lol: . Btw dmc tower design was proposed by som the very same who designed Jin Mao so its definitively not some crazy concept idea with this super large atrium. They have experience in this stuff :cheers:

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2066/3333333b.png (http://img85.imageshack.us/i/3333333b.png/)

1. 5 years ago seoul goverment sold out own land for "to built Seoul land mark tower in sangamdong"

2. Daewoo Inc announce blueprint for 133 floors 630m.

3. World financial crisis hit the project.

4. Daewoo Inc suggested modified plan(reduce height 77floor + two 50floors)
Rejected by Seoul

At the moment Daewoo Inc suggected new plan "100floors + two 50floors OR 103floors + one ?floors"

In comparison with Burj Al Arab, these ain't so tall, but the buildings are significant.

Lloyd's Building
1978 - 1986
London
Richard Rogers Partnership

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4124/5001497875_c1b0c1d6dd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex-r/5001497875/)
Lloyds building atrium (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alex-r/5001497875/) by alex robertson (http://www.flickr.com/people/alex-r/)

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6171/6250296092_892a4791cc_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobaliciouslondon/6250296092/)
Looking up inside Lloyd's of London (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobaliciouslondon/6250296092/) by bobaliciouslondon (http://www.flickr.com/people/bobaliciouslondon/)


Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank Headquarters
1979-1986
Hong Kong
Foster and Partners

http://mylifescoop.com/featured-stories/hsbc.jpg
Credit: Foster and Partners

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/41/105717200_dc70b1456c_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanirvine/105717200/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stefanirvine/105717200/) by stefan irvine (http://www.flickr.com/people/stefanirvine/)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3046/2370599069_b278a16069_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonolist/2370599069/)
Spaceship portal (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonolist/2370599069/) by jonolist (http://www.flickr.com/people/jonolist/)


Century Tower
1987-1991
Tokyo
Foster and Partners
The atrium is divided in the middle by the glass panels due to the fire regulations.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2510/3711610140_f13ea61d6e_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guen_k/3711610140/)
Century Tower #4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guen_k/3711610140/) by guen-k (http://www.flickr.com/people/guen_k/)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2467/3710798475_8b46c5d0da_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guen_k/3710798475/)
Century Tower #3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/guen_k/3710798475/) by guen-k (http://www.flickr.com/people/guen_k/)

More images (http://www.fosterandpartners.com/Projects/0409/Default.aspx)


Deutsche Bank Place
1997-2005
Sydney
Foster and Partners

http://www.architecturemedia.com/resources/aa/2006/07/images/120107.jpg
Richard Glover for Architecture Media (http://www.architecturemedia.com/aa/aaissue.php?issueid=200607&article=12&typeon=2)


Dentsu Building
1998-2002
Tokyo
Jean Nouvel

http://www.dentsu.com/about/summary/history/imgs/p2001-img01.jpg
dentsu inc (http://www.dentsu.com/about/summary/history/p2001-1.html)

http://put.edidomus.it/domus/binaries/imagedata/JN_01_big.JPG
domus (http://www.domusweb.it/en/architecture/nouvel-s-floating-tower/)

http://put.edidomus.it/domus/binaries/imagedata/JN_05_big.JPG
domus (http://www.domusweb.it/en/architecture/nouvel-s-floating-tower/)


1 Bligh Street
2009-2011
Sydney
Ingenhoven Architects
Architectus

http://www.architectus.com.au/sites/default/files/4.sa-com-1-Bligh-St-74.jpg
architectus (http://www.architectus.com.au/projects/1-bligh-street-sydney)

http://www.architectus.com.au/sites/default/files/sa-com-1-Bligh-St-91.jpg
architectus (http://www.architectus.com.au/projects/1-bligh-street-sydney)


Shinjuku Sumitomo Building
1971-1974
Tokyo
Nikken Sekkei

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3316/3445184287_304635ab9a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tenkai/3445184287/)
Shinjuku - Shinjuku Sumitomo Building (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tenkai/3445184287/) by tenkai2002 (http://www.flickr.com/people/tenkai/)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2183/2205488604_ea822ae979_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/2205488604/)
Shinjuku Sumitomo Building, Tokyo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephenk1977/2205488604/) by stephenk1977 (http://www.flickr.com/people/stephenk1977/)


And some other examples...

Public housing in Hong Kong.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6047/6283874726_b2f456a3be_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cozyta/6283874726/)
Square building in blue tone, make science fiction feeling (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cozyta/6283874726/) by cozyta (http://www.flickr.com/people/cozyta/)

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6117/6283848606_cefa267ed2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cozyta/6283848606/)
circle public house in hongkong (http://www.flickr.com/photos/cozyta/6283848606/) by cozyta (http://www.flickr.com/people/cozyta/)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3155/2854298029_9ff2c6cae9_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mingshi/2854298029/)
Vertigo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mingshi/2854298029/) by Mingshi.jenny (http://www.flickr.com/people/mingshi/)

Wow, that's some nice selection right there :nuts: Especially the last one's from Tokyo and Hong Kong rules :cheers:

Atlanta: http://youtu.be/bqmENsnYSIQ

http://youtu.be/ug8OBqUSBPU

That is only 1/2 the atrium! It's a mirror image on the other side.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2323/5555iv.png (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/5555iv.png/)
http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm?idxno=2012030717470880529

Daily Seoul Light Tower news
Seoul light In the maze

- Actually "daewoo construction" request modified plan which is reduced tower's height to korea national land & transportation deparment's Mediation committee.

-Request reduced height from 133fl to 100fl+two 50fl.
Increase residence rate from 20% to 50%

Mediation between the two sides is fail.

-finally rejected by "Seoul Goverment"
Seoul refuse increased residence rate and reduce tower's height.

Is there any chance for 640m?

100 floors will hardly be 640m, even with huge spire. I suspect 550ish height.

these are quite good news, i hope they stay with the 640m design :cheers:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6290/000001qu.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/000001qu.jpg/)
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6112/000031d.jpg (http://img594.imageshack.us/i/000031d.jpg/)
http://blog.naver.com/dbehdqls0208?Redirect=Log&logNo=144507834
Old rendering atrium

these are quite good news, i hope they stay with the 640m design :cheers:
^^ possible

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2078/4444n.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/4444n.png/)
http://news.nate.com/view/20120314n11856

Daily News
-Seoul stick to "133 Floors 640m"
-Seoul reject another suggestion which daewoo's 103floor 30% residence/10% officetel
-"That site is for "Landmark constrution" so floor reduce is "impossible"(said seoul concerns)

"That site is for "Landmark constrution" so floor reduce is "impossible"

Of course it is! Seoul on the rise! Go go go! Great news inno!! :dance::dance::dance:

it is amazing that they want to stay with the original tall design, but what i am afraid of is that it results in a stalemate between the major and the government and the project never gets a go, but right now it is not looking too bad. :cheers:

Main Developers like reduction of development.. such like Incheon Tower development.....
because they will buy site conveniently....

maybe this thread must change title. from 133 to 103 floor.
and Incheon Tower's floor will be reduced From Recent News(2012.3.13)

maybe this thread must change title. from 133 to 103 floor.
and Incheon Tower's floor will be reduced From Recent News(2012.3.13)

i wouldn't change the title as long there is still fighting over the developers. i mean inno just posted that the 103fl plan was rejected. As long we have chaotic things with parties saying this and that and going back to previous statements i think we should just let the title until we hear what final solution they came up with :cheers:

i wouldn't change the title as long there is still fighting over the developers. i mean inno just posted that the 103fl plan was rejected. As long we have chaotic things with parties saying this and that and going back to previous statements i think we should just let the title until we hear what final solution they came up with :cheers:
The thread title should have been 200 + floor tall landmark tower to begin with. That way, we know at lease by now we may have a 133 land mark, even after accepting their greedy chicken shit floor reduction proposal. Seoul gov must stick with no floor reduction policy for this project. Thank you.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9479/snap20120406193919007.png (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/snap20120406193919007.png/)
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=101&oid=013&aid=0002055398

Daily News

At last Seoul lite overcome crisis.
break ground deadline until 31/May/2012
Today talk between seoulite Inc with seoul goverment.
Seoullite 103 floors
Seoul goverment 133 floors
:banana:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9479/snap20120406193919007.png (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/snap20120406193919007.png/)
http://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&sid1=101&oid=013&aid=0002055398

Daily News

At last Seoul lite overcome crisis.
Groundbreaking deadline until 31/May/2012
Today talk between seoulite Inc with seoul goverment.
Seoullite 103 floors
Seoul goverment 133 floors
:banana:

damn, so there is still chance for 640m :cheers:

btw inno, when it will be announced what they decided on this meeting with government?

btw inno, when it will be announced what they decided on this meeting with government?

^^
Today meeting's first purpose is for extension of "break ground deadline"
Because accordding to the "agreement paper" seoullite tower have to beging construction until tommorrrow 7/april/2012.

Today meeting is just for delay of deadline.
They are going to negociated for height(floors) problem until 31/may.:)

Worst case i'm little bit worry about "moratorium" announced by company.

oh, all is clear now.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1460/snap20120409212542003.png (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/snap20120409212542003.png/)
http://www.asiae.co.kr/news/view.htm?idxno=2012040908561669281
^^
Daily News
The plan which 103floor is now under consideration by the Seoul goverment.
Officialy 133 floor is seoul's suggestion but the otherside some mediation between seoul with seoullite tower Inc.

I'm not 100 percent sure, but i think it is 103~110 floors?
But anycase necessary that render should be changed.

why not 116 floors as a compromise?

we still have 1 1/2 months for the government to persuade the developers to go with the original 640m plan x) although it doesn't look too good for it, but anyway everything taller than 500m is already amazingly tall and would be epic to be seen going up.

http://www.mt.co.kr/view/mtview.php?type=1&no=2012041713351572917&outlink=1

At the moment consideration 70 floors!!!!!

What a great seoul mayor :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Seoul gov concern high said "Seoul have a plan too many skyscrapers. That is traffic jam and skyline is can not harmonized with seoul's atmosphere!!"
Too many skyscraper? Are you kidding me?

What a skeptical mention it is!!!!

I'm really sick and tired with seoul new mayor!!!! Now he ruined Yongsan IBD+SEOULLITE+Hyundai global business center!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.mt.co.kr/view/mtview.php?type=1&no=2012041713351572917&outlink=1

At the moment consideration 70 floors!!!!!

What a great seoul mayor :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

Seoul gov concern high said "Seoul have a plan too many skyscrapers. That is traffic jam and skyline is can not harmonized with seoul's atmosphere!!"
Too many skyscraper? Are you kidding me?

What a skeptical mention it is!!!!

I'm really sick and tired with seoul new mayor!!!! Now he ruined Yongsan IBD+SEOULLITE+Hyundai global business center!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and Massive Urban Development like Magok Waterfront and Seocho Lotte Town Projects...

^^
:ohno:

http://www.mt.co.kr/view/mtview.php?type=1&no=2012041713351572917&outlink=1

At the moment consideration 70 floors!!!!!

Down to half, what a joke. They better cancel the project alltogether.

and Massive Urban Development like Magok Waterfront and Seocho Lotte Town Projects...
^^
Right Actually LG SUGGESTION 230,192㎡ for magok. Moneky Cut half..........In result only about 120,000㎡ allocated to LG!!!
Kick the company Kick the skyscraper What a great guy!!!!!!

Down to half, what a joke. They better cancel the project alltogether.

^^
100% agree. Seoul's New monkey is really hate "skyscraper"

But this seoullite is not easy lunch. Because Seoullite tower's first goal is for landmark tower or symbol of seoul city. He tried not to do it on some pretext or others. Justification is only economy but not enough...

However Really problem is "YONGSAN IBD"&"HYUNDAI GBC" We have to keep on eye on it Moneky's action..Really skeptical :nuts:

^^
Right Actually LG SUGGESTION 230,192㎡ for magok. Moneky Cut half..........In result only about 120,000㎡ allocated to LG!!!
Kick the company Kick the skyscraper What a great guy!!!!!!



^^
100% agree. Seoul's New monkey is really hate "skyscraper"

But this seoullite is not easy lunch. Because Seoullite tower's first goal is for landmark tower or symbol of seoul city. He tried not to do it on some pretext or others. Justification is only economy but not enough...

However Really problem is "YONGSAN IBD"&"HYUNDAI GBC" We have to keep on eye on it Moneky's action..Really skeptical :nuts:

I think Mr.park is anti-developer.but,developer should have thought 'Supertall is not only Supertall.'.
I want Seoul Lite Tower should change mutual Countermeasures....

I think Mr.park is anti-developer.but,developer should have thought 'Supertall is not only Supertall.'.
I want Seoul Lite Tower should change mutual Countermeasures....
Either, your statement is too poetic for your readers or slipping a lot. I am not sure what you are saying. Sorry.

maybe slightly off topic but here we go:

atrium at burj al arab looking down (180m - up to 60 floors probably)
http://www.imaginature.nl/pages/Dubai/images/911461sg.jpg

atrium at Jin Mao (115m - 31 floors):
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6239/6276658042_0050736417_b.jpg


I'm curious if you know any other huge atrium's like these. Obviously these are the largest but there are probably other significantly large out there.

Ponte Johannesburg, residential ,54 floor open core

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6881/snap20120505025741002.png (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/snap20120505025741002.png/)
http://www.mt.co.kr/view/mtview.php?type=1&no=2012043015114817927&outlink=1
^^
Daily news
At 30/april Seoullite tower's "public hearing" held in seoul council
-Seoullite Inc suggested for decresed height from 133 to 70(1building)/50(1)/42(2)
-Seoul goverment "No". Seoullite have to built as original plan which is 133.
-Negociation will be finished until 30/May/2012.

Guess some compromise such like a 100floors or project canceled..But i'm not sure.