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Buyckske Ruben August 29th, 2007, 04:05 PM Lambeth Approve Doon Street Tower
Published on 2007-08-29
Coin Street Community Builders have secured the approval of their planned tower at Doon Street from Lambeth Council despite the opposition against the scheme from many quarters.
Designed by Lifschutz Davidson Sandilands the project is a 140 metre tall largely residential tower, the construction of which will fund the leisure, health and education facilities it stands above that Coin Street Community Builders have been trying to secure money to pay for from various governmental bodies for years without luck.
Opposition predictably has come from English Heritage but less predictably from the Commission for Architecture and Built Environment, both of whom are worried about the impact of the scheme from a private members room of the historic Somerset House on the north bank of the River Thames.
Others who have come out against it include Brian Perry, a former architect at Sir Denys Lasdun & Partners who designed the National Theatre claiming a tower next to it was "completely out of proportion."
Ironically for Brian Parry the National Theatre are in favour of the proposals as are a smattering of other cultural venues on the South Bank including the Tate Gallery.
Approved by the planning committee of Lambeth Borough Council last night the scheme now goes up before the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone who will pass judgement on whether his office should approve it. It then faces its obligatory call-in period to get through first where the Secretary of State for Communities, Hazel Blears, can decide whether it should have a public inquiry held or not.
Whether the likes of English Heritage, still battered from the inquiry into 20 Fenchurch Street they were bounced into, will want a public inquiry or for that matter be able to pay for one, remains to be seen.
Even if they do, Hazel Blears is unlikely to call the Doon Street Tower in for a public inquiry, not least as Beetham's London plans, just a short distance down the road, also got through without further complications.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1079LambethApproveDoonStreetTower_pic1.jpg
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3907DoonStreetTower_pic2.jpg
SOURCE: http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=1079
wjfox August 30th, 2007, 12:58 AM The previous, taller version (170m) -
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3907DoonStreetTower_pic1.jpg
Stefan88 August 30th, 2007, 01:16 AM The rooftop garden is a nice feature. When some more detailed renders and closeups of the cladding come out I'll decide if I like it or not. First impressions are good though.
rugbytommy August 30th, 2007, 11:06 AM I think the cladding was much nicer on the first one.Simple and elegant, whereas the second version seems kind of cheap and cheerful (i.e crappy colours)
ferge August 30th, 2007, 11:19 AM I think perhaps the 'cheaper/dated' looking cladding will be better for the tower in relation to its neighbours, a new shiney structure would make it stick out even further and make the existing towers look worse, so one that blends in a little - yet still has a modern feel is more suited.
MasonicStage™ August 30th, 2007, 05:22 PM hm...not bad but this taller version was definitely better.
Buyckske Ruben August 30th, 2007, 06:44 PM Coin Street Community Builders has released the first images of its proposed 48-storey development on Upper Ground, just behind the National Theatre.
The development is master-planned by architects Lifschutz Davidson Sandilands and includes an indoor swimming and leisure centre, 355 flats, a new headquarters for the Rambert Dance Company, public open space and shopping.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/images/051013_doonstreet2.jpg
The site is currently used for car parking, a family & children’s centre and CSCB’s offices. The latter are transferring to a new neighbourhood centre, due to be completed in 2007.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/images/051013_doonstreet3.jpg
The indoor swimming pool and leisure centre provides the community with a much needed facility. The centre includes an 8 lane 25m swimming pool and learner pool, a 120 piece gymnasium, two aerobics studios, a 4 court multi-purpose sports hall, changing village, cafe and creche. It will be operated by Greenwich Leisure Limited, also a social enterprise. Capital costs and revenue subsidy will be provided from income generated by the sale of flats housed in a 'slender' 48-storey tower affording 'breathtaking' views of the Thames and the City.
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/images/051013_doonstreet4.jpg
An area of 1800 sq m is given over to public open space including a new public square at the site’s western end with links to Waterloo station and Waterloo Bridge.
CSCB says that the scheme is conceived as a terrace of different buildings each expressing its function and yet forming an overall composition on the street. The materials chosen for the new development continue the theme of the site’s neighbours (National Theatre, IBM, Hayward Gallery) with light coloured masonry, reconstituted stone and white render.
Each building has different details picked out in various self-coloured materials such as anodised aluminium for the window frames in the residential tower, yellow patinated copper cladding for the set backs to the courtyard housing, and Corten for the cladding to the swimming and leisure centre.
The height of the proposed development has been met with surprise and concern by some local residents given that CSCB's history is in low-rise, low-density housing.
Look sertainly to the PDF FILE with mutch more information!
Link to PDF file:
http://www.coinstreet.org/Doon_Street_Exhibition_boards_Oct_05.pdf
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/images/060512_stjamespark.jpg
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/images/060512_westminsterpier.jpg
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/images/060512_waterloobridge.jpg
http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2005/10/407403.jpg
SOURCE: http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/1786
SOURCE: http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/2164
SOURCE: http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=407403
OMH August 30th, 2007, 11:03 PM it's ugly...
wiki August 31st, 2007, 05:35 AM great add to london's boom, stuning design.
wjfox August 31st, 2007, 03:18 PM Here are some new renderings (and enlarged versions of previous renderings), taken from this PDF -
http://www.coinstreet.org/DoonStreetMay2007exhibitionboards.pdf
As clearly shown, this project will be of great benefit to the local community, and will have a minimal impact on existing views.
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wjfox August 31st, 2007, 03:20 PM great add to london's boom, stuning design.
I wouldn't call the tower itself a "stunning" design. But the project does have some great features including a new swimming pool, dance studio, leisure centre, health and education facilities, gardens, new public space, better access to Waterloo, etc.
HeavenlySword September 1st, 2007, 04:40 AM nice building
Tubeman September 1st, 2007, 12:40 PM It looks really poor to me... Not impressed!
wjfox September 1st, 2007, 12:57 PM You'll have to give a better explanation, because I fail to see what's "really poor" about this scheme. Clearly, it will be of great benefit to the local community and the improvements to the surrounding streetscape will be excellent. The tower itself has been scaled down and its cladding has been changed to blend in better and reduce its impact from St James's Park. Not every skyscraper has to be flashy or iconic. That doesn't mean it's poor quality though.
Buyckske Ruben September 1st, 2007, 01:51 PM You'll have to give a better explanation, because I fail to see what's "really poor" about this scheme. Clearly, it will be of great benefit to the local community and the improvements to the surrounding streetscape will be excellent. The tower itself has been scaled down and its cladding has been changed to blend in better and reduce its impact from St James's Park. Not every skyscraper has to be flashy or iconic. That doesn't mean it's poor quality though.
I agree with that, not every building has to be extremely ambitious. In my opinion that tower is a little bit to boxy. The horizontal lines (in white) in constrast with the vertical lines (near the windows) given not a slightly look in render for understanding. I think in reality the facade will be mutch more beautiful when its realized!
Tubeman September 1st, 2007, 03:04 PM You'll have to give a better explanation, because I fail to see what's "really poor" about this scheme. Clearly, it will be of great benefit to the local community and the improvements to the surrounding streetscape will be excellent. The tower itself has been scaled down and its cladding has been changed to blend in better and reduce its impact from St James's Park. Not every skyscraper has to be flashy or iconic. That doesn't mean it's poor quality though.
I mean its really poor: Poor cladding. Poor shape. Looks poor on the skyline... Poor design all round in my opinion. Just because a building improves the immediate streetscape and provides facilities it doesn't mean a developer has carte blanche to chuck up any old unimaginative piece of toss.
It looks like it should be in Stratford, not standing prominently on the Southbank skyline.
rocky September 2nd, 2007, 11:31 AM I agree with tubeman. Well it fits in the south bank style ..
DAMN I m good September 2nd, 2007, 03:08 PM I dont know why but I really dont like this one but it is still a skyscapper so...:okay:
Ralphkke September 3rd, 2007, 06:20 PM And again a tower to be build in London, great!
Phobos September 5th, 2007, 04:21 AM Boring tower...
Zenith September 5th, 2007, 08:53 PM I agree with tubeman. Well it fits in the south bank style ..
Exactly it is boring and ugly.
Boogie September 5th, 2007, 09:12 PM For me it's simple and elegant. I like it very much.
Tubeman September 6th, 2007, 09:07 PM Exactly it is boring and ugly.
I'm glad I'm not alone...
...I mean, for christs sake:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/wjfox2005/London_general/doon_street/6.jpg
It is blandness personified, it should be looming over a windy dock in the East end, not standing prominently in the middle of London and featuring very prominently on the skyline.
Boogie September 6th, 2007, 11:32 PM It seems to me that the location of this tower is good. Not every tower has to stand in neighbourhood of other towers. Besides the tower will stand next to river, so location is very atractive. Not all want to live in area likes Manhattan.
eddie88 September 7th, 2007, 12:09 AM i think that it would make a nice residential in CW
delores September 7th, 2007, 12:58 AM yes hidden away behind other more attractive buildings.
PresidentBjork September 7th, 2007, 04:54 AM http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/wjfox2005/London_general/doon_street/6.jpg
Actually, I think this is quite a nice addition to the skyline for a residential development. In fact it's almost retro facade is what appeals to me. Reminiscent of the restrained modernism of Centrepoint. The main issue I object to is the tower's silhouette from the side. The protruding (what I assume is) service shaft, then followed by the step down looks messy. I would have actually preferred a perfect cuboid, but then considering the animosity towards boxes on these forums.....:shifty:
delores September 7th, 2007, 08:47 AM I wonder what that couple think? i would imagine not much. It looks like a chimney to me.
Tall Rog September 7th, 2007, 10:37 AM Boring and uninspiring...
London has been churning out (proposing / approving and U/C) too may towers like this recently.
Newcastle Guy September 7th, 2007, 02:52 PM Eh? I know this tower may not be great, but most of Londons towers are intersting and inspiring. In fact, if we are talking how many towers are intersting/inspiring out of the entire batch, London probably has a higher ratio than any other city in Europe, probably only Paris is on a similar level.
Myster E September 7th, 2007, 04:10 PM I have to agree with you Newcastle Guy, I've said before that London's projects always impress and are of a high quality, even the more monotonous schemeslike this are OK.
Although I would have thought the brutalist looking IBM building would have been destroyed by now, it looks like the Birmingham Library was based on it.
ferge September 7th, 2007, 05:08 PM I'll back up those comments ^^^
I know I've already commented on the design in this thread but I stress again I feel that this design is suited to the existing tall buildings nearby and is in the interest of the local environment. A design such as those located within the square mile would not sit well on this site, it needs something that little bit more mundane perhaps.. I think its a great design and once it starts going up people will lose their judgements.
Tall Rog September 11th, 2007, 07:36 PM Well I know there are some great towers in the pipe line...
LBT / 122LH / Bishopsgate (none of which are actually under construction at the moment)
But then you also have...
Doon Street, Land Mark, Crossharbour Tower,Ropemaker Place, Arrowhead Quay
... they are all... well ... a bit dull...
wjfox September 27th, 2007, 06:58 PM This has been called-in for a public inquiry...
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/2936
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Tubeman September 27th, 2007, 08:07 PM I wonder what that couple think? i would imagine not much. It looks like a chimney to me.
If you look closely neither are actually looking at it... I can't blame them...
Myster E September 27th, 2007, 09:44 PM This has been called-in for a public inquiry...
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/2936
:bash: :bash: :bash:
Holy shit, I'm wondering if ANYTHING's going to get built in London nowadays.
Newcastle Guy September 27th, 2007, 11:25 PM ^^London currently has 9 100m+ buildings under construction. 122 Leadenhall will be starting in weeks too. And there is loads of activity on the Riverside South site.
This may be getting called in for a public enquiry, but London is starting construction on many other skyscrapers in the meantime, so not to worry. This time next year, London should have under Construction...
The Shard
Bishopsgate Tower
Heron Tower
Riverside South 1
122 Leadenhall
Riverside South 2
St Georges Wharf Tower
Beetham Tower
Strata
London Park Hotel Tower
Landmark East
Baltimore Wharf Tower
DarJoLe September 27th, 2007, 11:48 PM This time next year, London should have under Construction...
The Shard
Bishopsgate Tower
Heron Tower
Riverside South 1
122 Leadenhall
Riverside South 2
St Georges Wharf Tower
Beetham Tower
Strata
London Park Hotel Tower
Landmark East
Baltimore Wharf Tower
I'm going to hold you to this, because I doubt it very much.
Newcastle Guy September 28th, 2007, 12:04 AM Your on;)
I only chose the most likely ones. Out of curiosity, Which ones do you doubt in that list?
wjfox September 28th, 2007, 12:17 AM I agree with your list - they will all be built.
Newcastle Guy September 28th, 2007, 12:25 AM Admittadly some are already under construction though!:D
Buyckske Ruben September 28th, 2007, 05:23 PM Coin Street Community Builders have secured the approval of their planned tower at Doon Street from Lambeth Council despite the opposition against the scheme from many quarters.
Designed by Lifschutz Davidson Sandilands the project is a 140 metre tall largely residential tower, the construction of which will fund the leisure, health and education facilities it stands above that Coin Street Community Builders have been trying to secure money to pay for from various governmental bodies for years without luck.
Opposition predictably has come from English Heritage but less predictably from the Commission for Architecture and Built Environment, both of whom are worried about the impact of the scheme from a private members room of the historic Somerset House on the north bank of the River Thames.
Others who have come out against it include Brian Perry, a former architect at Sir Denys Lasdun & Partners who designed the National Theatre claiming a tower next to it was "completely out of proportion."
Ironically for Brian Parry the National Theatre are in favour of the proposals as are a smattering of other cultural venues on the South Bank including the Tate Gallery.
Approved by the planning committee of Lambeth Borough Council last night the scheme now goes up before the Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone who will pass judgement on whether his office should approve it. It then faces its obligatory call-in period to get through first where the Secretary of State for Communities, Hazel Blears, can decide whether it should have a public inquiry held or not.
Whether the likes of English Heritage, still battered from the inquiry into 20 Fenchurch Street they were bounced into, will want a public inquiry or for that matter be able to pay for one, remains to be seen.
Even if they do, Hazel Blears is unlikely to call the Doon Street Tower in for a public inquiry, not least as Beetham's London plans, just a short distance down the road, also got through without further complications.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1079LambethApproveDoonStreetTower_pic1.jpg
source:skyscrapernews
wjfox September 28th, 2007, 06:51 PM ^^ Old news. :| See earlier in the thread...
wjfox August 21st, 2008, 12:03 PM Following a public inquiry into the suitability of its location, this now has full planning permission. :)
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=1699
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3907DoonStreetTower_pic2.jpg
Betty99zhang September 3rd, 2009, 09:21 AM i like the first one look,with clean glass claddings.it's simple,great.
CompayEE December 2nd, 2011, 06:15 PM 28 Nov 2011
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24015068-shard-casts-a-shadow-over-towers-future-as-wonder-of-the-world.do
Unesco is also considering the ranking of the Palace of Westminster which it fears will be blighted by the 43-storey Doon Street tower, which is to be built across the river in Lambeth.
Its interest follows concerns raised by English Heritage in relation to both the £400 million Shard - which English Heritage believes also blights St Paul's Cathedral - and the Doon Street development.
Westminster council described Doon Street as an "act of cultural vandalism" and went to the High Court two years ago in a bid to get planning permission overturned.
PortoNuts December 3rd, 2011, 07:30 PM I don't know if this one is going to be built after all. :dunno:
BodgeJob1 December 3rd, 2011, 07:37 PM I don't know if this one is going to be built after all. :dunno:
UNESCO (who can fuck right off, by the way) cant stop this being built as it already has planning permission.
SkyscraperSuperman December 3rd, 2011, 07:39 PM Wow, I thought this one was dead in the water. Or maybe the journalists are just using out-of-date planning applications to continue their ridiculous moaning about London's developments. Wouldn't mind this one going up, especially since it has tall structures like the London Eye and Shell Centre nearby, (and that midrise to the bottom left of the Doon Street Tower in the picture above, forgotten its name) so it won't be completely on its own.
PortoNuts December 3rd, 2011, 11:54 PM UNESCO (who can fuck right off, by the way) cant stop this being built as it already has planning permission.
Yes but didn't this one get planning permission in 2008, according to wjfox's post? Where's the construction?
SO143 December 4th, 2011, 01:19 AM Following a public inquiry into the suitability of its location, this now has full planning permission. :)
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=1699
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3907DoonStreetTower_pic2.jpg
nice and seems like an eco friendly tower to me
CompayEE December 5th, 2011, 11:08 AM I don't know if this one is going to be built after all. :dunno:
Last time when I passed by there (last month?) the site was dead empty.
But then it could all take off all of a sudden. I mean it should. I hope it will.
For the sake of the South Bank :)
PortoNuts December 7th, 2011, 09:49 PM UNESCO (who can fuck right off, by the way) cant stop this being built as it already has planning permission.
Didn't know that. Hope it starts sometime soon.
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