what's the height difference between the two rebar layers 1 or 2 m ? are they gonna pour that huge amount of concrete it would take tons of hours to do that

^^ Look at the people on the picture below. These frames are definitely around 4 meters tall so the distance between layers is something like that.

http://i.imgur.com/SDk4M.jpg

^^so they're gonna pour a 4m deep concrete lake this is awesome :nuts:

Could someone explain why is there this big stainless steel structure only at this place (on the left hand side) ?

Today they have practically covered all the surface with the upper layer of rebars so there is really only 1 piece of this structure.

from gjhhose picrture:
http://i.imgur.com/7lXHU.jpg

Could someone explain why is there this big stainless steel structure only at this place (on the left hand side) ?



Hard to tell. It's attached to the support of a core column (the steel plate on the upper left corner so the steel structure has probably something to do with the distribution of the loads of that column in the raft foundation. I guess the loads from the core walls at that point are heavier than on the other places (design of the core, general wind direction, hurricane resistance??). Anyway that steel structure will distribute the loads of that column more equally over the piles in that section of the core :)

By gjhhose


http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111120/18/56673426201111201819153658202782423_034.jpg

by gjhhose ,the pour is near!

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Great progress！

cant wait for this to rise

Won't there be any vertical rebar? I mean for the piles and the growig core.

^^
No rebars,but columns like this
http://i.imgur.com/SHovc.jpg

by gjhhose

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When did they change the height to 660m?

When did they change the height to 660m?
660m top of the spire.

As per kohn pederson fox, official name is Ping An Finance Center?

Big and massive project.. 660m

Nice update

So what's the actual proposed final height? 632m? 648m (like in the above graphic)? Even 660?

Would be great if someone can justify this with a source.

If i get it right the layer of concrete and steal will be 3m thick O_O

I think it will be thicker, the space between lower rebars and top layer is about 3m

looks like its gonna take a long time to fill the raft

By gjhhose

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^^ You can put all your photos in 1 post.:)

Does anyone can make a rough estimation of how much steel was used to for all this rebar, and how much concrete will need to complete the raft ? I assume that there are between 2000-4000 metric tonnes of steel, and will need 5-10 times more concrete. please correct me if i'm wrong, and let's count the concrete trucks when the pour begins. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Could someone explain why is there this big stainless steel structure only at this place (on the left hand side) ?


Hard to tell. It's attached to the support of a core column (the steel plate on the upper left corner so the steel structure has probably something to do with the distribution of the loads of that column in the raft foundation. I guess the loads from the core walls at that point are heavier than on the other places (design of the core, general wind direction, hurricane resistance??). Anyway that steel structure will distribute the loads of that column more equally over the piles in that section of the core :)

These are some possibilities. One of mine was also that the slab could be thinner for any reason in that place (lift shafts etc) so they have to reinforcement it harder. Looking at the last update it seems it is the case. The lower part is directly above the steel structure.

http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111122/19/56673426201111221906421070799520316_029.jpg

Amazing!

Could be a sub-basement for a power generator.

Hi all.

The dips in the rebar could be a number of things. The structure will have many elevators but only a few that will go down to level B5. The bottom of elevator shafts is the most likely reason for the dips.

I wonder if the extra beams they are laying on top of the rebar are the first indication of where the core walls will be ?

:cheers:
Ray.

^^ Good suggestion too! We'll know soon enough!

Hi all.



I wonder if the extra beams they are laying on top of the rebar are the first indication of where the core walls will be ?

:cheers:
Ray.

For me, yes. There are 4 x 4 "super piles" under the core. That makes a 3x3 "room" seperatet core. And the upper rebarprofiles the core wall footprints.
If i am not wrong same as ST.

The elevators, who runs to b5 need a deeper level as the slap will be. Thats why the separeted rebar.

Just my opinium.

^^ looks like it :)

http://i.imgur.com/olaij.jpg

http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111122/19/56673426201111221906421070799520316_043.jpg

^^ :banana: worker to go....

Hold in one

it looks fascinating, cant wait to see it finished

WOU, congredulation!:cheers::cheers:

will this be in a single pour of concrete ?

^^ That would be massive. How thick is the layer of rebar now? roughly 3 meter or so?

By gjhhose
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will this be in a single pour of concrete ?

It has to be. Hasn't it? I mean for technical reasons? Like it has better integrity or whatever?

It has to be. Hasn't it? I mean for technical reasons? Like it has better integrity or whatever?

Yes it will be a huge all day pour from all the angles :cheers:

I find it funny how we're all wondering what the hell they're doing down there....this foundation looks different than other skyscrapers.

It does seem to be kind of similar to the Shanghai Tower in the basic layout with the HUGE square core, and the mega columns around the outside.
HUGE!!!!:nuts::banana:

Hi all.

It has to be. Hasn't it? I mean for technical reasons? Like it has better integrity or whatever?

Not all raft pours are done in one continuous pour.
For instance the BK was done in 4 seperate pours but that makes sense considering its 3 lobed shape.
I'm pretty sure most round rafts are done in one pour though.

:cheers:
Ray.

By 178111

http://thumbsnap.com/i/ORGatH3o.jpg

looks like the raft is about 11feet

Is that the base of a tower crane on the right side?

It is.

Something new happening in the lower bit with really long rebars sticking up. Are they building a wooden lid for the concrete pour?

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^^ Thanks !
Anybody can explain what they are doing? it's getting complicated ! :)

^^ I would say preparations for pouring, but I'm not 100% sure :cheers:

by 冬雨

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Don't know why there are scaffolds on the slab..

Really strange indeed. I'm not familiar with this kind of construction, could anyone be so kind and comment this?

I think they are installing these scaffoldings to move around during pouring, my wild guess.

During and shortly thereafter I think. They may need some access to the slab to control the hoses through which the concrete wille be poored.

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Hi all.

OK ..... What in tarhooty !!! :lol::lol:

I would have said 4 days ago they were ready for the raft pour. Fifteen cm. above the rebar then, would be the floor of level B5 that is the same height as B4. That will be the top of the raft - no doubt.

What all this other 2 level high stuff is ... ???
As with many of the proceedures on this project, a new path is taken to get to the usual result.

This foundation for this project has been most interesting. :)

:cheers:
Ray.

It looks like ramps.... for concrete pouring ????

29.11. by gjhhose
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They build additianal scaffoldings with a slope inwards the construction site. I also think that is for the pouring. But then the scaffoldings stand in the concrete. Perhaps they leave the scaffoldings for further building. Don't mind me, I just say something.:)

I see party flags at the side of the scaffoldings!? Maybe the scaffoldings are placed for some kind of 'first pour' ceremony/party... :cheers:

LOL, I didn't even notice that before you mentioned it. That's cute

I see party flags at the side of the scaffoldings!? Maybe the scaffoldings are placed for some kind of 'first pour' ceremony/party... :cheers:

Well, they had umbrellas before, so who's surprised? Maybe next they'll do a a barbeque! :lol:

Hi all.

Yes it does look like they are forming ramps that will go to the ground level.

My first thought is ... - why not use concrete boom trucks like every other project ??

I think they may still use boom trucks ??

The ramps are for a ceremony ? - as good of a guess as any. :)

:cheers:
Ray.

I see party flags at the side of the scaffoldings!? Maybe the scaffoldings are placed for some kind of 'first pour' ceremony/party... :cheers:
That's not for a party, the Flags are right there to see better the guy wires from the scaffolding.
Why they build the ramps into the hole, i don't know. Maybe protect the pour from rain during pour.

by gjhhose

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by 冬雨

The heads of the construction firm are here to inspect the site just prior to the pouring of the concrete.

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Looks scary bridge on the center of hole

Charles 54 presents to you -

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sketch up ?
nice work~~~

ｇｏｏｄ　ｊｏｂ，ｃｈａｒｌｅｓ５４：）

^^It looks like a golden rocket. Nice pictures.:banana:

What a huge building cave. I see you have a special method of construction. I see it at first time. Congredulation!

sketch up ?
nice work~~~

yes it is and thanks everyone

SSP says it's 1960 feet tall and here 2160, which is correct?

crazy cool building by the way, wo feichang xi huan

SSP says it's 1960 feet tall and here 2160, which is correct?

crazy cool building by the way, wo feichang xi huan

660 m./2165 ft.
Blueprints don't lie...

they should make pencils in the exact shame shape

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SSP says it's 1960 feet tall and here 2160, which is correct?

crazy cool building by the way, wo feichang xi huan

LOL SSP! :bash:

Hi all.

Hi Vito.
Thanks for your input.

Well ... those are quite the ramps they have there ...

Don't tell me the workers are going to roll those 100 year old looking carts down them, full of concrete, for 3 months to pour the raft ... :lol:
A joke, of course but knowing some of the proceedures used on this project in the past - I wonder ?? ...

Seriously, it looks like each ramp will have another ramp below going back the other way.
Could it be they are going to slide the concrete down the main and lower ramps, like big chutes and direct it over the sides where they need it ??
Normally they don't want to drop the concrete from a height but perhaps they have a special mix ??

Very interesting. :)

:cheers:
Ray.

Could it be they are going to slide the concrete down the main and lower ramps, like big chutes and direct it over the sides where they need it??
Normally they don't want to drop the concrete from a height but perhaps they have a special mix??

Bingo! :okay:

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Let's party~~

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^^
You are so fast Scion!!

^^ get in the 深圳登楼QQ群! New pics always get posted there 1st! :)

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The area PING'an IFC lacated in, Futian CBD
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Hope PING'AN IFC can make this skyline be more elegent

--ALL THE PICS ABOVE WERE TAKEN BY GJHHOSE--

Is progress mat foundation work like lotte world tower ? Wow many remicon wagons movement.

Some night shots around PING'AN IFC today,taken by crazyboyxzy
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poco.cn is taking for ever to load all those pictures :/

This is by far the craysiest construction site atm. At this speed rate the pour will be the longest for a skyscraper ever.

poco.cn is taking for ever to load all those pictures :/

i have reedited all the pics,enjoying !

i thought they would have a pump down to the rebar level ,not all this scaffolding ?

I like this method, just let gravity do the work. :)

Can anyone translate the banners?

And also, someone on this site posted a skyline render of this building in... Well, the skyline. All of the official renders just showcase this building, and while that isn't necessarily a bad thing, could someone post a picture of this building in Shenzhen's skyline as a whole?

That would be much appreciated :)

Can anyone translate the banners?

And also, someone on this site posted a skyline render of this building in... Well, the skyline. All of the official renders just showcase this building, and while that isn't necessarily a bad thing, could someone post a picture of this building in Shenzhen's skyline as a whole?

That would be much appreciated :)

well... for the geographical reason... it will be difficult to take a photo of the whole Shenzhen city skyline because the urban area spread in the width of 30km.......

Can anyone translate the banners?

And also, someone on this site posted a skyline render of this building in... Well, the skyline. All of the official renders just showcase this building, and while that isn't necessarily a bad thing, could someone post a picture of this building in Shenzhen's skyline as a whole?

That would be much appreciated :)

Here you go (I think they forgot the smaller hotel tower, which will be supertall as well):

With labels. Going from left to right:

Excellence Century (TO) -- Ping'an (UC) -- Great China (Com) -- Hon Kwok (Prep) -- Lujing (TO) -- East Pacific (UC) -- SEG (Com) -- AVIC (UC) -- Stock Exchange (UC) -- New World (Com)

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by 1788111

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^^ OMG it's finally happening :banana: Thanks for the update

Hi all.

So, my guess was correct in that the ramps are large chutes - lucky guess ... :nuts:

With that guess was the thought of directing the concrete over the sides where they need it, letting it fall onto the rebar.

I'm going to ammend that part because I don't think any concrete should be dropped from a height and that would be taking a chance on the rebar ties breaking and things getting out of place as well.

I'm thinking now, the ramps will be used to pour the areas under the podium only, then taken down. Those areas would be more difficult for concrete boom trucks to reach anyway. Then for the raft under the main tower (the area at the bottom of the hole) boom trucks will be used like most other projects ??

Awesome updates guys.

:cheers:
Ray.

On the chinese websites they're saying that it will take 4 days and 4 nights to complete the pouring.

http://i.imgur.com/uGU9y.jpg
The Cavalry is rolling in, shit is going down! It's on man, it's on.

Hi all.

I'm thinking now, the ramps will be used to pour the areas under the podium only, then taken down. Those areas would be more difficult for concrete boom trucks to reach anyway. Then for the raft under the main tower (the area at the bottom of the hole) boom trucks will be used like most other projects ??


:cheers:
Ray.

I don't think so. On the latest pictures posted on gaoloumi.com you can see that they are building some cross section slides that ends right in the middle of the site.

The Cavalry is rolling in, shit is going down! It's on man, it's on.

Yee hah! Gonna be fun to watch.

by 1788111

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Wages really have been rising in China. Construction workers had never been able to afford jeans before.

Hi Fury,
you're an enthusiast so the effort of teaching some extra knowledge is no wasted time in your case... :)

I'm going to ammend that part because I don't think any concrete should be dropped from a height and that would be taking a chance on the rebar ties breaking and things getting out of place as well.

The rebar is not the problem. When conrete falls down more than approx. one meter the cement and aggregates like gravel would segregate. Then you'd have just a pile of gravel with a bit of cement in between. The right mixture is key, then you can put heavy loads on top of it. Btw gravel is used as an aggregate because only cement is to expensive, can support less loads and would produce too much heat while curing (it's a chemical process, not just "drying").

I'm thinking now, the ramps will be used to pour the areas under the podium only, then taken down. Those areas would be more difficult for concrete boom trucks to reach anyway. Then for the raft under the main tower (the area at the bottom of the hole) boom trucks will be used like most other projects ??

I would agree here.

Hi Fury,
I would agree here.

I don't agree.
See latest pictures from GJHHOSE

http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111202/12/56673426201112021210034071668890412_018.jpg

There are new slides that will pour the concrete in the middle.

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Wonderful photos.:banana::cheers:

Hi all.


I'm thinking now, the ramps will be used to pour the areas under the podium only, then taken down. Those areas would be more difficult for concrete boom trucks to reach anyway. Then for the raft under the main tower (the area at the bottom of the hole) boom trucks will be used like most other projects ??


Looks like they just make a new ramp to poor the concrete in the middle of the hole. :nuts:
This is the weirdest project in terms of construction i've ever seen.

Looks like they just make a new ramp to poor the concrete in the middle of the hole. :nuts:
This is the weirdest project in terms of construction i've ever seen.

I agree with that! :)

Hi all.

Hi Fury,
you're an enthusiast so the effort of teaching some extra knowledge is no wasted time in your case... :)



The rebar is not the problem. When conrete falls down more than approx. one meter the cement and aggregates like gravel would segregate. Then you'd have just a pile of gravel with a bit of cement in between. The right mixture is key, then you can put heavy loads on top of it. Btw gravel is used as an aggregate because only cement is to expensive, can support less loads and would produce too much heat while curing (it's a chemical process, not just "drying").



I would agree here.

Hi Gol.
Thanks.
Your knowledge and way with words is very much appreciated. I have some knowledge of concrete, like curing and why they place it rather than drop it but I have already learned some things from you, which is good.
BTW, do you work with concrete ?


I don't agree.

There are new slides that will pour the concrete in the middle.

Hi Yann.
Thanks - Looks like you are correct. :)

Looks like they just make a new ramp to poor the concrete in the middle of the hole. :nuts:
This is the weirdest project in terms of construction i've ever seen.

Hi Engineer.
True dat.
It does make the old brain cells communicate. :nuts:

I agree with that! :)

Hi Dennis.
How you doin, man ?

:cheers:
Ray.

Can anyone translate the banners?

And also, someone on this site posted a skyline render of this building in... Well, the skyline. All of the official renders just showcase this building, and while that isn't necessarily a bad thing, could someone post a picture of this building in Shenzhen's skyline as a whole?

That would be much appreciated :)

how about this one,dude
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/11/30/ZXZvg.jpg

1788111 went inside the site took loads of pics on day 2 of pouring.

Not wanting to spam this thread, here are the photo albums if anyone is interested:

Part 1 - http://imgur.com/a/U6XZG

Part 2 - http://imgur.com/a/g4dFM

Finally the big pour :cheers:

1788111 went inside the site took loads of pics on day 2 of pouring.

Not wanting to spam this thread, here are the photo albums if anyone is interested:

Part 1 - http://imgur.com/a/U6XZG

Part 2 - http://imgur.com/a/g4dFM


just WOW :nuts: now thats an update :D

^^ awesome round of photos :cheers:

BTW, do you work with concrete ?

Haha, no, just basic knowledge from a civil engineering degree. :)

In case you're wondering what these guys are doing: The guy on the top right is hiolding a vibrator (I know... ;)) which is driving out bubbles of air from the concrete and makes it stronger.
http://i.imgur.com/oc4gn.jpg

I would feel uncomfortable if someone is running around in underwear on my construction site... :lol:
http://i.imgur.com/gPrlV.jpg

Pics from 1788111

It was probably a really hot humid day - Shenzhen has a subtropical climate

^^
He's a pile worker,it's hot and stuffy in the pile hole.

WOW, this reminds me of watching Shanghai Tower hole last year. Hole tracking starting all over again.
Also, <3 the two packs of photos by Scion
Thumbs up for the man in red underpants.

Is this the place where the supercolumns will be placed? :)

http://i.imgur.com/NVdDd.jpg

^^ yup

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Nice Photo

^^Ping'an will totally dominate that skyline.

^^Ping'an will totally dominate that skyline.

Not very difficult with 660m :D

will the super columns be placed outside or inside the hole?

Outside the big hole, they will be in 8 rectangular holes around.

Today should be the last day of pour maybe someone can help us with an update after all is complete :)

They're done with the pouring! There are pictures on some Chinese websites. You'll get them here soon I guess. I can't believe they finished as calculated. 4 days and 4 nights.

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Nice up date photos

And all of a sudden it's filled with concrete! :banana:

Hi Dennis.
How you doin, man ?

:cheers:
Ray.

Hi Ray, I am fine, you too? I'm still watching the most interesting projects here :)

the next phase now should be removing the scaffolding used for the pour. Thanks for the update :cheers2:

It only took them a handful of days to erect it, shouldn't take any longer dismantling it.

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amazing! :sly:
it looks incredibly beautiful and interesting - a beautiful construction site. :yes:

Hi all.

Are those newfangled - post neolithic concrete boom trucks I see ?
They almost look out of place on this project with its stone age proceedures. :)

Reaching down into places they couldn't get the paleolithic ramps to go, I reckon. :lol:

I joke ... I'm not putting any of the proceedures down at all - whatever works. This project has been most interesting to watch. I actually hope for more old age surprises.

Cheers
Ray.

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what is ...???
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Futian Station

hello...dear...

what is ...???
The construction site of highspeed rail and Futian Railway Station

^^ oh, ok thanks

How is the tower cellar connected to the station?

When is the station due to open for traffic?

That building looks very nice.
Even the construction site looks nice and complex.
Should look good in a few years.

It will be one of the most interestnig skyscrapers in the world.:banana::cheers:

Will be nice to see how it comes out of the ground

I saw, you have special method for construction this high skyscrapers.

Was walking home last weekend when I can across at least 20 cement trucks waiting to get in the construction site.

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Can't wait to see some interesting progress after a few days' silence..

How is the tower cellar connected to the station?

When is the station due to open for traffic?

don't exactly know how to connect yet.. Futian Railway Station will be connected directly with two underground stations nearby: Futian station & Shopping Park station.. also the Crystal Island project(conceptional) will connect it with other two underground stations: Civic Center station & Exhibition Center station..

the opening time of Futian Railway Station depends on the progress of Shenzhen-Hong Kong part of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Highspeed Rail.. the Guangzhou-Shenzhen part has finished construction and awaiting to be opened in the following month(s)... Futian Railway station has been constructed for a while.. but the SZ-HK part of the rail was started to be built couple months ago... may be opened in 2014 or 2015?

don't exactly know how to connect yet.. Futian Railway Station will be connected directly with two underground stations nearby: Futian station & Shopping Park station.. also the Crystal Island project(conceptional) will connect it with other two underground stations: Civic Center station & Exhibition Center station..
Are these now working stations or future ones?

the opening time of Futian Railway Station depends on the progress of Shenzhen-Hong Kong part of the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Highspeed Rail.. the Guangzhou-Shenzhen part has finished construction and awaiting to be opened in the following month(s)... Futian Railway station has been constructed for a while.. but the SZ-HK part of the rail was started to be built couple months ago... may be opened in 2014 or 2015?

Shall the Futian station be a terminal station for some time, or open as through station only when the railway to Hong Kong opens?

How shall the border crossing on the trains be handled? Could the passengers bound for Hong Kong cross the border checks in Futian Station before getting on the train?

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Wow, that looks really messy right now. They will have to do a bit of tidying up before continuing.

good they're removing the scaffolding :)

WAU, they use a lot of iron.

Are these now working stations or future ones?

All of them are working stations.It is very convienient to get to four metro lines from the Futian railway station right now and six in the future.

Shall the Futian station be a terminal station for some time, or open as through station only when the railway to Hong Kong opens?

It will be a terminal station until the railway to Hong Kong opens.

How shall the border crossing on the trains be handled? Could the passengers bound for Hong Kong cross the border checks in Futian Station before getting on the train?

Yes.

don't exactly know how to connect yet.. Futian Railway Station will be connected directly with two underground stations nearby: Futian station & Shopping Park station.. also the Crystal Island project(conceptional) will connect it with other two underground stations: Civic Center station & Exhibition Center station..



So, that is the middle of 4 stations at the crossing of 4 lines:

Futian station on Longgang line, crossing with Shekou line.
Shopping Park station, next on Longgang line, crossing with Luobao line.

Civic Centre station, next on Shekou line, crossing with Longhua line.
Exhibition Centre station, next on Luobao line, crossing with Longhua line.

What are the 2 future metro lines there?

^^
They are Airport line which will open in 2015 and Eastern Express line.Moreover,the Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen inter-city rail (about 140km/h) is also proposed to be terminated at Futian station.

^^
They are Airport line which will open in 2015 and Eastern Express line.Moreover,the Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen inter-city rail (about 140km/h) is also proposed to be terminated at Futian station.

Luobao line now goes to airport. Where shall the "Airport Line" go?

Also, for the time, when shall the Pingan International Finance centre be fully completed and both towers open for occupation?

^^
Luobao line goes to Terminal A and B,but Terminal 3,which is about 2 km from Luobao line's station,will operate in 2012 so there must be another metro line to go through there.
Click here to know more about the Terminal 3:http://www.dezeen.com/2008/04/12/shenzhen-international-airport-terminal-3-by-massimiliano-and-doriana-fuksas/


PAIFC is supposed to be completed on 2016.3.18

^^
They are Airport line which will open in 2015 and Eastern Express line.Moreover,the Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen inter-city rail (about 140km/h) is also proposed to be terminated at Futian station.

Guangzhou-Dongguan-Shenzhen inter-city rail is not going to Futian anymore... it will terminate at Airport East.. may be extended to Qianhaiwan :)

Luobao line now goes to airport. Where shall the "Airport Line" go?

Also, for the time, when shall the Pingan International Finance centre be fully completed and both towers open for occupation?

Terminal 3 is going to open late next year, where Airport Line will go to.

city government is still undecided what will the current terminals (Terminal A,B and D) do after the opening of T3.

somehow, there was plans to close the current terminals.
whether to turn them into cargo terminals, international terminals or exhibition centre...

So, that is the middle of 4 stations at the crossing of 4 lines:

Futian station on Longgang line, crossing with Shekou line.
Shopping Park station, next on Longgang line, crossing with Luobao line.

Civic Centre station, next on Shekou line, crossing with Longhua line.
Exhibition Centre station, next on Luobao line, crossing with Longhua line.

What are the 2 future metro lines there?

not quite...

the railway station is in between Futian station and Shopping Park station...

without the Crystal Island or Link City(underground shopping centre between Shopping Park and Exhibition Center station) you cannot directly get access to Civic Center station and Exhibition Center station..

current services at the stations:
Shopping Park: Luobao Line & Longgang Line
Futian: Shekou Line & Longgang Line
Exhibition Center: Luobao Line & Longhua Line
Civic Center: Shekou Line & Longhua Line

in the future:
Futian: Shekou Line, Longgang Line, Airport Line & Eastern Express Line

Where shall the Airport Line go?
Shall it terminate in Terminal 3, or continue to Songgang?

Where shall the Airport Line go?
Shall it terminate in Terminal 3, or continue to Songgang?

According to some maps it will continue to the North to Songgang and further North. I now wonder what kind of line it will be? In the same Wikipedia map it says it will be the SZ-Dongguan-Guangzhou inter-city (commuter/suburban?) rail so I would assume it's not the same as 'ordinary' metro lines. And what speed would it run at? 160km/h? 200km/h?

The map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/SZ_Railway_2020_English.png

in the future:
Futian: Shekou Line, Longgang Line, Airport Line, Meilin Line (which just changed its name from Neihuan Line) & Eastern Express Line

I don't think Meilin Line is going to Futian..Take a look at this PDF:http://www.szpl.gov.cn/xxgk/tzgg/othersgg/201112/P020111208608490462306.pdf

According to some maps it will continue to the North to Songgang and further North. I now wonder what kind of line it will be? In the same Wikipedia map it says it will be the SZ-Dongguan-Guangzhou inter-city (commuter/suburban?) rail so I would assume it's not the same as 'ordinary' metro lines. And what speed would it run at? 160km/h? 200km/h?

The map: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/SZ_Railway_2020_English.png

That map is quite old,there are new added stations in Airport Line and many of the stations have been renamed.But this happened only a few days ago,let's wait for a new stuff.:cheers:

Where shall the Eastern Express go?

Hey, in terms of the subway... the Shenzhen Metro is in the process of attempting to raise RMB100billion in MTNs. Much of what happens next is dependent on the success of said financing, as the subway is currently losing about RMB2 billion/year.

We'll likely see an expansion, but I'm not sure what proportion of the commonly cited "Shenzhen Metro Plan, 2020" we'll actually end up seeing. Right now preliminary research is going on for line 7, line 9, and line 11. Line 11 seems like the most speculative of the bunch, so I think lines 7 and 9, and probably an expansion of some of the current lines, seem like a safe bet.

Source: http://finance.caixin.cn/2011-12-06/100334945.html

Where shall the Airport Line go?
Shall it terminate in Terminal 3, or continue to Songgang?

Songgang, and may be extended to Chang'an in Dongguan City

I don't think Meilin Line is going to Futian..Take a look at this PDF:http://www.szpl.gov.cn/xxgk/tzgg/othersgg/201112/P020111208608490462306.pdf

haha sorry just too many stuff in head..

Where shall the Eastern Express go?

Pingshan, northeastern Shenzhen

Hey, in terms of the subway... the Shenzhen Metro is in the process of attempting to raise RMB100billion in MTNs. Much of what happens next is dependent on the success of said financing, as the subway is currently losing about RMB2 billion/year.

We'll likely see an expansion, but I'm not sure what proportion of the commonly cited "Shenzhen Metro Plan, 2020" we'll actually end up seeing. Right now preliminary research is going on for line 7, line 9, and line 11. Line 11 seems like the most speculative of the bunch, so I think lines 7 and 9, and probably an expansion of some of the current lines, seem like a safe bet.

Source: http://finance.caixin.cn/2011-12-06/100334945.html

not the same as some of other cities, Shenzhen government is now not exactly responsible for any of the metro companies. That's why the companies need to fund themselves for building lines and operate them. MTR(SZ) can get money from its 'mother' MTR(HK), which is the only metro company earned money in the world... But SZMC and SZML3 are not that lucky.

the government can only release some land for proposal and let them bet, which means they also need to pay the government to get specific sites. and a number of apartments have to be built as public apartments and return to the government...

we can see unless the companies are closing down, the city government will not do much...

Is the Eastern Express under construction?

What is the opening due date?

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^^we where waiting for some updates from the site, looks better now :cheers:

this is now a megatall
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Is the Eastern Express under construction?

What is the opening due date?

not yet.. unknown...

the railway station is in between Futian station and Shopping Park station...

without the Crystal Island or Link City(underground shopping centre between Shopping Park and Exhibition Center station) you cannot directly get access to Civic Center station and Exhibition Center station..


When shall the Crystal Island or Link City be built?

When shall the Crystal Island or Link City be built?

Link City is almost completed, the shops are being decorated. It should be end of this year or very beginning of next year.
No more info on the Crystal island for a while! I want this to be built so that I can have my long running track completed!

So, the opening due dates:
Link City - in Hare Year, whether 2011 or 2012.
Guangzhou-Longhua high speed railway - in Hare Year, but in January.
High speed railway Longhua-Futian - in Dragon Year.
Baoan airport Terminal 3 - in Dragon Year, but then not connected to metro.
Airport Line, Futian to Terminal 3 and beyond - in Sheep Year.
High speed railway Futian-Hong Kong - in Sheep Year.
Pingan centre - in Monkey Year, 18th of March.

Crystal Island - unknown future time.
Eastern Express - unknown future time.

Correct?

this is now a megatall
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Good idea to have a new category. Perhaps also here at the forums in the future?

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they don't seem to be in such a hurry to get that water out of there

The water helps the concrete cure better. But its still a very dirty looking site.

The concrete has been covered with plastic sheets.

How long does the concrete take to dry before they can start going up?

the colour of the concrete looks a bit sandy dont you think ?

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Hi all.

the colour of the concrete looks a bit sandy dont you think ?

Hi Sock.

It's probably burlap under the plastic to help keep the concrete wet.
That's the norm anyway.

:cheers:
Ray.

thanks fury,so how long till this beast starts to climb then ?

Hi all.

Hi Sock.

The BK raft sat for over 6 months but I don't think that was necessary.
The ST sat less than a month and I would think that's all this will sit too.

:cheers:
Ray.

The BK raft sat for over 6 months but I don't think that was necessary.


wow I didn't know that :nuts: Seems really quite extreme since the tower like shanghai tower may be equally or even heavier than burj.

The BK raft was a lot thicker though wasn't it? Could be the reason it had to sit for longer?

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Next step : See core rise?

Hi all.

The BK raft was a lot thicker though wasn't it? Could be the reason it had to sit for longer?

Hi Eastern.

The BK raft is 3.7 meters thick and Shanghai Tower's is 6 meters thick (!!).

I think a factor in the BK wait time was the switch from the foundation general contractor (and all their subs) to the structural general contractors (and all their subs).

:cheers:
Ray.

Oh okay, got that mixed up. I guess that would be it then. So we really don't know how long this will sit for then? Once again something to make this interesting to watch :) :cheers:

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which part of the crane is seen in the second last image?

The red part.:)

Is it's rotating base.

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so they arent getting a tower crane?

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I took few pics today. ;P

so they arent getting a tower crane?

What are you talking about? This is a tower crane they are assembling right now.

^^ oh okay i thought they were building a crawler like this one

http://www.manufacturer.com/upload/product/6543188/QUY250+hydraulic+crawler+crane_0_detail.jpg

^^ Actually this is the model M1280D, the exact same as they use on shanghai tower so you can get the idea.

Judging by the serial number of 1673, it's a brand new crane.

Wow! I see M1280D cranes become very popular at skyscrapers construction in China.
Thanks for crane parts photos. :cheers:
I hope to see many photos with crane erection process in details!

Thanks in advance!

^^ Actually this is the model M1280D, the exact same as they use on shanghai tower so you can get the idea.

exactly thats what i thought they were assembling on site

Oh no I didn't mean the one you posted :) The one they actually assembling on site is M1280D, a tower crane.

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Another Megatall is almost ready to rise :cheers:

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In thoughts I see the core already rise.:)

looks like they're ready to start working on this one again :cheers:

looks like they're ready to start working on this one again :cheers:

They've been working on this non stop for the past seven months.

^^I was refereeing to rebar and concrete

The other night there was a major accident at the construction site. It might stop construction for months. I hope they're able to fix it quickly.

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You show us a photo of a truck that has bumped into a barrier.
How is that a major accident?

i dont think its that bad was anyone killed ?

What a sensationalist headline, that stuff would hardly halt any construction for a significant time. :|

If you just want to advertise your blog, rather refrain from posting.

You show us a photo of a truck that has bumped into a barrier.
How is that a major accident?

It's called "sarcasm".

:bash:

My only excuse is that it was such a poor attempt at it that I missed it completely.

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What's up with the crooked piling?

Yes, it was simply one of the construction trucks that hit a small rail. Nobody died. Construction isn't stopped. Sorry for the confusion.

looking good

what are those brown bags for?

They are very deep now. When will they come out? 4 months? 9 months?

The bags absorb and contain the loose water and make it easier to work around the dry parts of the concrete while keeping other parts wet for a longer time.

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