by crazyboyxzy

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^^ ótimas imagens! projeto fantástico

by crazyboyxzy

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And so it begins.

Big progress!I guess next update we may see piles of rebars lying at the bottom.

Migglesworth, you get 3 dancing bananas!
:banana::banana::banana:

How long til KPF updates their site with the official building height?

http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/building.php?building_id=54

Hi all.

Is that part of a podium level B5 floor I see ?

:cheers:
Ray.

^^That's the bed course,which is a waterproof and buff layer.It's the preparation for pouring the bottom floor.

Hi all.

Hi Konta.

^^ - Otherwise known as blinding ... :)

Level B5 is going to be tall by the look of it. The drawings posted here show B1 to B3 much taller than B4 - much as we see in place. It also shows B5 as short as B4 so we shall see.

It looks like there is room to dig down further to the pile tops leaving room for the raft.

:cheers:
Ray.

I dunno but isn't this still in the preparation phase? Where's the border between preparation works and construction? :dunno:

Construction starts when piling starts. Piling is what we've been seeing here the last couple of months, so this has long been under construction.

^^ I see, thanks for the info :cheers:

by gjhhose & 校&长

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nice progress of that hole area

the observation deck has some potential:
http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=image&image_id=6303&building_id=54&building_name=Ping An Finance Center

yay, now hoping for an increase in construction speed

we'll have to be patient for a while

Great progress!By gjhhose as always.

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Hi all.

Great update Konta.

Perhaps no more digging ?
Maybe pour the raft up to what will be the floor of a short (as B4) level B5 ?

:cheers:
Ray.

http://m.flickr.com/photos/yleberre/6200801924/?xajax=1
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Can't see your photo yannsz, can you upload it to .com please?:/

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all photos by Yann Le Berre
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By 1788111,look at those trucks..

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The colourful umbrellas are back. :)

That's one big mold growing in that top-right hole.

by gjhhose 05 Oct 2010

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^^.....I guess most ppl can't see these photos. Can you upload it to www.tinypic.com or so please?

That's a lot of rebar.

Gah, this is taking forever. They won't reach the ground by 2013 at this rate.

Once the raft is done (whenever that may be) everything will go a lot faster.

it's hard to see the progress because everytime we see pictures the holes are filled with water which makes its unable to see how much concrete is actually in there, but it looks like its about to be ready there on most of the holes at least

I'm pretty sure holes were filled with concrete quite some time ago. What is happening lately is just removing the soil and breaking/preparing piles tops.

btw don't be fooled by the one deeper filled with water hole far to the left. It's not a pile, I bet it's just part of the dewatering system. They dig a hole to put some pumps in so the rest of the site remains dry.

Hi all.

Hi Pat.

Previous shots show 16 evenly spaced piles. I believe all of the holes we see are piles. They may be using the one on the left for de-watering but I think it is a pile. It looks deeper because they haven't broke all the concrete rings down to the level of all the rest.

I could be wrong - anything is possible on this project. :)

:cheers:
Ray.

by oliver
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looks like Ping'an and Guangzhou East Tower will be rising together! Shanghai Tower's progress is light years ahead of both of them however.

nice to see the raft coming up!

looks like Ping'an and Guangzhou East Tower will be rising together! Shanghai Tower's progress is light years ahead of both of them however.

yes and after these two rose a bit we get a few new chinese buildings who start the race with CITIC in beijing and the greenland buildings in Wuhan and Dalian :cheers:

looks like Ping'an and Guangzhou East Tower will be rising together!

Chow Tai F..k Tower has complete bath bottom in place. Pingan is still bare earth.

Greenland in Wuhan has broken ground. What are the plans for Shizimen CBD?

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BY gjhhose

nice update clearly we're on a move here :)

This construction method is really wierd.

Hi all.

The last few days have been relatively normal in the way of construction proceedures. Obviously many steps taken in the foundation stage of the construction phase of this project have been anything but normal. The digging and breaking the pile tops , leaving the rebar protruding so it can be tied into the raft rebar at a later date, is quite normal.

Admittedly, they aren't breaking the pile tops per se, but instead the concrete rings around the outside of the piles in the case of this project, but the technique is the same.

I think we will see preparation for the pouring of the raft slab soon.

:cheers:
Ray.

I wonder why they didn't just excavate down to this level before hand digging the piles though. Surely it would have been quicker, as well as saving a lot of workers sore backs.
There must be a good reason, does anyone know?

I spot almost 80 workers in the hole ! Things should move very fast now !

I spot almost 80 workers in the hole ! Things should move very fast now !

What is happening on the hotel plot Yannsz?

Still nothing ;( I pass by 2 or 3 times a week but no activity.
They finished the cladding try out couple of weeks before.

They'll probably start with the construction of the basement slab?
You can see the insulating matting which will go underneath on the right side of the pictures.

By gjhhose,PAIFC is going faster and faster.
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111010/21/56673426201110102109032721317860481_023.jpg

Are these holes for the cranes?
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111010/21/56673426201110102109032721317860481_017.jpg

This is going to move quick now.

Are these holes for the cranes?


Nop

Nop

Why not ? The 4 little squares looks like a TC footprint. Pouring concrete with an ancor. Mayby same as Shangai Tower, first 2 TC, later 4.

By crazyboyxzy

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This is about to get good

Can't it be part of a crane? I've never seen such a color for a steel frame.

Taken just now:
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^^ You can see larger versions of the pictures on the flickr link below in my signature

How long have the yellow cranes been on site?

^^ more than a year now ..but the site looks to be ready for some serious action :cheers:

Wow epic structure starting to take shape.

It looks to me like some sort of truss-belt.

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BY gjhhose

That last pic of yours, did you use iphone to take it in HDR mode? I always get the ghost of moving object because HDR mode takes three pictures and combine them together.

It's really strange seeing someone pushing aroung some kind of ancient wheelbarrow on a 660m supertall construction site!!! :nuts: :lol:

Holy Craneeeeeee

thats a mighty big hole

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by gjhhose

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Im loving all the concrete down there :)

I'd say the Ping'an is about 2 months behind Guangzhou East Tower. Its going to be fun watching these two rise.

Observation deckhttp://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/images/albums/userpics/10005/PingAn_Ext-Axon%28c%29KPF.jpg

huge hole, its going to be a big building with a hole like that.

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BY 1788111

good progress construction

http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111020/23/5667342620111020233939016.jpg
by gjhhose

^^ Finally they started laying the rebars. It is interesting how many "preliminary" layers of concrete they poured here before they started works on the actual concrete slab. I guess its due to the extreme softness of the soil down there.

taken today by 自然兄

http://i.imgur.com/UJMQQ.jpg

by gjhhose

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^^ Finally they started laying the rebars. It is interesting how many "preliminary" layers of concrete they poured here before they started works on the actual concrete slab. I guess its due to the extreme softness of the soil down there.

I think so. What will be the thickness of the foundation slab?

Hi all.

^^ Finally they started laying the rebars. It is interesting how many "preliminary" layers of concrete they poured here before they started works on the actual concrete slab. I guess its due to the extreme softness of the soil down there.

Hi Pat.

Yes - 2 layers.
The first I would call blinding. This second, leaving the octogonal shapes around the piles may be called a preliminary layer I guess.

It's good to see they are working towards a raft pour.

:cheers:
Ray.

^^ I would even say 3 in some places. If you follow the updates carefully you will notice on the outside areas they lay one thin layer of the concrete then (waterproofing?) matting, then second thin layer of concrete, and on this page we can see another fresh concrete on top of that cake :)

OOOooh rebar !

by gjhhose (http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.php?tid=142163&extra=page%3D1)

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Looks good, they are moving quick down there.

yes, it has really taken off. :cheers:

By 校&长
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Someone knows the thickness of the raft?

Anyone notice the top right circle, I think that is where the crane is going. Also I notice how evenly placed the rebars are, look at the difference from right to left.

http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111023/22/55889633201110232152002532931671344_009.jpgby校&长
have anyone noticed right down corner where 2 red squares located as its look like a part of the crane' something.

by gjhhose

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^^ A crane is coming soon ! :banana:

I assume a second crane will be installed on the opposite side of the pit.

Wonder what the big steel object is for. It looks a little too big for the crane, but it's sitting on a spot designed for it. In earlier pictures up top you'll see 4 unpaved spots the the footing of this huge metal is sitting. Anyone with the to expertise to explain this method of construtction.

Wonder what the big steel object is for. It looks a little too big for the crane, but it's sitting on a spot designed for it. In earlier pictures up top you'll see 4 unpaved spots the the footing of this huge metal is sitting. Anyone with the to expertise to explain this method of construtction.

It looks big because it's an M1280D,the biggest one.

^^ http://marr.com.au/index.php?page=favelle-favco-m1280d

We are all witness

by 1788111

25 Oct 2011

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It looks big because it's an M1280D,the biggest one.

This crane is bigger than the pair used on ST?

4 or 2, 3 cranes?

This crane is bigger than the pair used on ST?

Three M1280D are used on ST.From the number of the cranes' parts on the constrcution site,I guess there will be four cranes on PAIFC.Maybe two are M1280D.

4 or 2, 3 cranes?

Look's like same as ST.
First 2 opposite, then 4.

Thx to all, who post pics - realy good updates. keep up.

looks like they are spray painting the crane parts on site

Taken this afternoon:
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BY gjhhose

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thats gonna take a while to fill!

the number of workers seem to have grown :)

It take a lot of manual labor to fasten those rebars.

I've never noticed those foundation piles under there before?

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9677/building.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/building.jpg/)

^^ Thats what the super columns will sit on :) If you look at the some of the other pictures you can see the holes for where these will rise from :) :cheers:

By crazyboyxzy
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The second crane!

This one looks clean, like those Korean construction sites.

^^
They must have realized that there are many people watching them (primarily in SSC). ;)

by gjhhose

30 Oct 2010

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I think concrete slab may even be as thick as cranes base height. If so it surely will take some time to lay down all those rebars.

How long is before we should expect the pouring of concrete?

I think concrete slab may even be as thick as cranes base height. If so it surely will take some time to lay down all those rebars.

and a load of iron workers.

I've never noticed those foundation piles under there before?

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9677/building.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/building.jpg/)
there they go i guess
http://i026.radikal.ru/1110/3b/58fba19e05a5.jpg

Ahhh.

I wonder how many truck loads of concrete it will take to fill that all up.

How come around foundation pile, there are vertical bars sticking up but in different directions?

by 1788111

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I wonder if they will pour the whole slab including the mall part and other invisible parts.

^^ Apparently, they will not do both 'holes' at the same time. The amount of concrete will be huge anyway.

by gjhhose

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^^Hi, could you upload these^^ photos on a non chinese server, please? :)

Reuploaded

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Looks very neat now ~

Nice progress

by 自然兄

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What the heck? What's going on? o.O

What the heck? What's going on? o.O

They are building a tower..

Yeah, but what is that material? Looks like deer antlers lol (I know it isn't deer antlers)

Those are just bended rebars.

The look quite strange. Thank you for your answer :)

Hi all.

Yeah, but what is that material? Looks like deer antlers lol (I know it isn't deer antlers)

Hi Azn.

Most projects with piles use a pile rig to bore the holes, drop in rebar cages, and pour concrete to a few feet above where the bottom of the raft will be. They then excavate, exposing the pile caps that they then break with jack hammers leaving the rebar sticking up to be tied in with the raft rebar.

Point is, after all that, some of the pile rebars are bent. Most of the time they do straighten them somewhat but only to make it easier to tie to the new rabar for the raft.

We know they used unconventional proceedures on this project. They poured the pile concrete to the level they needed, leaving the rebar sticking up, no pile cap breaking needed. They did, however, cover the piles for a time with dirt so they could move equipment around freely. They then had to remove the dirt from around the rebar causing the bending.

This amount of bending is among some of the worst I've seen but it really doesn't matter - it will still do its job of tieing the piles to the raft. They may straighten them some anyway.

Great updates Konta - thanks for posting.

:cheers:
Ray.

^Thank you very much for that informative post :)

We should thank for gjhhose,1788111,crazyboyxzy,校长,YannSZ,自然兄... who are taking fresh pics almost everyday.And the construction site changes everyday!

by 1788111

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^^ where these last 2 pictures come from ? They are the most updated and I haven't seen them on gaoloumi.com!

wow look at all that rebar

^^^^
Here:http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.php?tid=145826&extra=page%3D1&page=4

I think the new steel frames are used to fix the rebars.Is that right?

^^ That was my first thought I saw them. The slab will be so extreme thick so they surely need some way of tying all the rebars vertically.

Yes, they will tie the rebar to those steel poles.

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/b80Sq.jpg

by 自然兄

http://thumbsnap.com/i/En1PlAcd.jpg

The amount of rebar is just insane. :cheers:

This place is gigantic :S

Hi all.

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/b80Sq.jpg

The frames are unusual. Most foundation rafts use nothing like these. They just keep tieing layer after layer of rebar untill the desired height is reached.

These do seem like they will remain. They are about the same height as the square boxes they made out of rebar around the perimeter columns. I presume they will do all the columns in this way. The top of the raft will be the floor of level B5. If we add 6 inches of concrete above the top of those rebar boxes, level B5 will be the same (short) height as B4. The fact that they did the rebar boxes seperately from the main rebar for the raft suggests the raft may not be as high as those boxes though but I'm sure it will be close.

The rebar is about a half a meter thick right now. The pile rebar was sticking up about 1.5 to 1.7 meters above the blinding. I think they will continue to lay rebar at least untill the pile rebar is covered. The BK slab is 3.7 meters thick and the ST slab is 6 meters thick ! This one will be in the ballpark as well.

I digress ... The frames are lined up. Perhaps they are used to support some sort of piping ?? As with the frames, that would be a little out of the ordinary but that is the MO of this project anyway - that's what makes this one so interesting. :)

:cheers:
Ray.

Can't wait until they start pouring concrete. It will take hundreds of trucks loads.

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/Dxyqv.jpg

fantastic progress at the site :cheers:

Hi all.



The frames are unusual. Most foundation rafts use nothing like these. They just keep tieing layer after layer of rebar untill the desired height is reached.

These do seem like they will remain. They are about the same height as the square boxes they made out of rebar around the perimeter columns. I presume they will do all the columns in this way. The top of the raft will be the floor of level B5. If we add 6 inches of concrete above the top of those rebar boxes, level B5 will be the same (short) height as B4. The fact that they did the rebar boxes seperately from the main rebar for the raft suggests the raft may not be as high as those boxes though but I'm sure it will be close.

The rebar is about a half a meter thick right now. The pile rebar was sticking up about 1.5 to 1.7 meters above the blinding. I think they will continue to lay rebar at least untill the pile rebar is covered. The BK slab is 3.7 meters thick and the ST slab is 6 meters thick ! This one will be in the ballpark as well.

I digress ... The frames are lined up. Perhaps they are used to support some sort of piping ?? As with the frames, that would be a little out of the ordinary but that is the MO of this project anyway - that's what makes this one so interesting. :)

:cheers:
Ray.

Sorry Fury, you're a bit wrong. In every rafts you need rebar at the bottom for tensile loads and rebar at the top of the raft for compression loads. When your raft is not very thick, these layers do meet or overlap. When your raft is several meters thick you need these distance holders you see in the pics above. Their main purpose is to offer a base to put the upper layers of rebar on. In between there is only concrete. Filling all this up with steel would be way too expensive. :)

Really nice progress.

Hi all.

Sorry Fury, you're a bit wrong. In every rafts you need rebar at the bottom for tensile loads and rebar at the top of the raft for compression loads. When your raft is not very thick, these layers do meet or overlap. When your raft is several meters thick you need these distance holders you see in the pics above. Their main purpose is to offer a base to put the upper layers of rebar on. In between there is only concrete. Filling all this up with steel would be way too expensive. :)

Thanks Gol.
I looked closer at some of pics I have of raft prep.
I stand corrected.

:cheers:
Ray.

http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111105/00/56673426201111050033344292842158881_056.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111105/00/56673426201111050033344292842158881_055.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111105/00/56673426201111050033344292842158881_054.jpg

BY gjhhose

How come some of the metal bars sticking up are curved?

http://thumbsnap.com/i/En1PlAcd.jpg

How come some of the metal bars sticking up are curved?

Hi all.


Most projects with piles use a pile rig to bore the holes, drop in rebar cages, and pour concrete to a few feet above where the bottom of the raft will be. They then excavate, exposing the pile caps that they then break with jack hammers leaving the rebar sticking up to be tied in with the raft rebar.

Point is, after all that, some of the pile rebars are bent. Most of the time they do straighten them somewhat but only to make it easier to tie to the new rabar for the raft.

We know they used unconventional proceedures on this project. They poured the pile concrete to the level they needed, leaving the rebar sticking up, no pile cap breaking needed. They did, however, cover the piles for a time with dirt so they could move equipment around freely. They then had to remove the dirt from around the rebar causing the bending.

This amount of bending is among some of the worst I've seen but it really doesn't matter - it will still do its job of tieing the piles to the raft. They may straighten them some anyway.

Great updates Konta - thanks for posting.

:cheers:
Ray.

:cheers:

:cry:What should I do if I drop my wallet and mobile into the rebars?

:cry:What should I do if I drop my wallet and mobile into the rebars?

Then they are save for a 100 years!....in solid concrete. :lol:

Can't wait until they start pouring concrete. It will take hundreds of trucks loads.Yeh, this looks like its going to be the most epic concrete pour since Shanghai Tower, when they had pumping arms reaching into the hole like the tentacles of an octopus, with hundreds of concrete trucks lined in wait. Hopefully we'll get some good pics of the action. Certainly great shots so far, thanks guys.

:cry:What should I do if I drop my wallet and mobile into the rebars?I think there's an app for that.

The Lotte tower in Seoul also had an impressive pour for the foundation.

This will also have a massive pour, can't wait to see pics of it :) :cheers:

Hi all.

I think there's an app for that.

Hi Oriolus.

:lol::lol: Hilarious.

:cheers:
Ray.

Would someone please sketch in the tower footprint (roughly) over one of these photos? I'm completely disoriented.

Taken today by me.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6116/6317873299_9b3fa667f2_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054/6318391666_e02ba73630_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6114/6317870615_43402971a5_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6111/6317868593_6bb5fccaf1_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/6317864871_fd59bd5fbf_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6101/6318382750_2d9dcc3ac1_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6051/6318380938_c19733d9ba_b.jpg

nice to see these mockups.

By 校长

http://thumbsnap.com/i/gd8b4pBb.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/i/opWpUEY9.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/i/AvzzW0DN.jpg

I found something new on the piles.

Cladding looks stunning! I perfer the stainless steel look to the gold one.

I have lived in Shenzhen on and off for past 4 years. I just moved to a new apartment 10 minutes walk away from the Pingan IFC construction site. Only found out last week what the Pingan IFC actually was thanks to this tread. This is a first post for me.

I'll certainly try to contribute in any way possible as I walk by that site every single day. I just put up a blog post about the Pingan and included a link to this thread. Feel free to read it. Thanks again for all the great information. http://prcand.me/posts/2011/11/7/i-just-moved-next-door-to-the-future-second-tallest-building.html

hey guys im working on my 3d model for ping'an can i have some floor plans and pics of ping'an any help would be appreciated.. thanks!

It sucks but there's very little stuff like that easily accessible for most buildings. I don't know how other modelers do it; if they go by photo reference and try their best to match that.

Well I know its not Christmas yet, but oh well... Get ready for a little present I got for you :cheers:

These I got from liftok.com site. Once again they surprised me with the inside information they have. So here we go:




Towers Location Map:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9823/001sitelocation.jpg




Towers sections. It seems this tower will be purely office (except observation deck) which is nice imo.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2788/002buildingssections.jpg




The podium and Mall. This is obviously with the new cladding scheme and I think everybody against this project will change their mind after seeing this. Looks really nice imo.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2266/003podiumandmall.jpg




Office interiors:

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1329/004officesinteriors1.jpg

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/4194/005officesinteriors2.jpg




Observation Deck. And what a OD it is! Truly I think one of the most epic I ever seen. Surely it will be great experience to eat there with the great views outside, and great design inside:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9033/006obsdeck.jpg




Floor plans:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6591/007floorplans1.jpg




Structure. As said many times the tower will have the structure very similar to this of Shanghai Tower with large core, supercolumns and trusses included:

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3873/008structure1.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5858/009structure2.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/710/010structure3.jpg

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2694/011structure4.jpg

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8766/012structure5.jpg

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8456/013structure6.jpg




Lateral Performance Analysis of the structure:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1549/014lateralperformanceys.jpg




Supercolumns. Pretty much the same solution of burying columns with concrete as seen on Shanghai Tower:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5356/015supercolumns.jpg




Truss Details:

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8533/016trussdetails1.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9159/017trussdetails2.jpg

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8951/018trussdetails3.jpg


That would be all for now :cheers:

^^

WOOOOOOOWWW !!!!

Post of the Day!! {(if not week!)}

THANKS a LOT! Right-click + saved everything!

:dance:

by 1788111

http://i.imgur.com/NACWo.jpg

Wow... cool design.... Go :banana::banana:

It seems Shanghai tower foundation raft was poured in March 2010.

How long shall pouring of Pingan centre foundation take?

:drool:
WOW
This is a genuine Future skyscraper
:master:

Wow that Observation Deck looks immense!!

Patrykus, that post of yours is da bAus! Good stuff. :eek:

in love with the design :tyty:

in love with the design :tyty:
+1

nice info however gonna stick with my current model

wooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

to think that ten years ago this would easily have trumped the world's tallest building

wooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

to think that ten years ago this would easily have trumped the world's tallest building

burj khalifa started in 2004 or 2005, and was only finished in 2010. all the way in between if something over 510m would have been finished it would have been the tallest building :)

Hi all.

Hi Killer.
The Bk is inaugurated but not completed yet.

Hi Pat.
Great stuff.
Plans and drawings are always good to help determine and understand what is going on as construction progresses.

:cheers:
Ray.

中标人公示




工 程 编 号：44030020110315002
项 目 序 号：44030020110315
工 程 名 称：平安国际金融中心施工总承包
项 目 名 称：平安国际金融中心
公 示 日 期：2011年11月8日 至 2011年11月10日
招 标 人：中国平安人寿保险股份有限公司
招标 代理 机构：深圳市海德伦工程咨询有限公司
招 标 方 式：邀请招标
中 标 人：中国建筑一局（集团）有限公司
中 标 价：550198万元
中 标 工 期：1465天（4年整）
项 目 经 理：杨耀辉
资 格 等 级：一级
资 格 证 书：0006979

Who can tell us more about the above. It seems quite important as it has been posted on gaoloumi.com

^^ google translates this to:


Successful bidder publicity

Engineering No.: 44030020110315002
Item Serial number: 44030020110315
Project Name: Ping An International Financial Centre, the total construction contract
Project name: Ping An International Financial Center
Publicity Date: November 8, 2011 to November 10, 2011
Tenderer: China Ping An Life Insurance Company
Bidding Agencies: Engineering Consulting Co., Ltd. Shenzhen Hai Delun
Tender manner: invitation to tender
The successful bidder: China Construction Bureau (Group) Co., Ltd.
The standard price: 5,501,980,000 yuan
The standard work period: 1465 days (4 years full)
Project Manager: Yang Yaohui
Eligibility class: a
Eligibility Certificate: 0006979

Hi all.

Hi Killer.
The Bk is inaugurated but not completed yet.

Ray.


Well it is completed by standards of 99% people here I believe. Otherwise it wouldn't have the status completed on CTBUH, emporis, wikipedia, skyscraperpage and even here on skyscrapercity the thread title clearly says COM. Even Imre claims its completed. If we want to compare buildings with each other we have to have equal standards for all of them. And the truth is that if we'd like to wait for opening of all bars and renting/fitting out all space in every building we would have to extend construction period of all buildings twice or even triple of the actual construction time. And the fact that there is no clients interested in renting this office space (so it won't be fitted out), or that one club is still not open doesn't mean that generally burj is not completed.

Seriously if they won't rent that office space in say 10 years you will still claim "The Building" is not completed yet?

Really no offense intended, just felt like it has to be said.

cheers :cheers:

where is Ping an IFC? is site connected to subway? which station?

So if I understand well it's quite good news for PingAn as it's China Construction bureau #1 who won the bid for the construction. China construction bureau has a lot of branches such as #2...#13 etc...
Being #1 should put a big priority on the project.
But I'm not sure.

where is Ping an IFC? is site connected to subway? which station?

购物公园 - shopping park
And probably 福田站 - FuTian Station

Wow, such a big core. Of course having said that, the immense size of the tower makes the floor space look small. But in terms of construction, the core does take up a lot of space. This competes with Kinkey in SZ and Shanghai tower in SH in terms of core size. Is there a place where they compare the height and floor space of towers? Would be interesting to see which towers actually stand out as being 'useful'.

Will this tower be visible within the Hong Kong border?

Will this tower be visible within the Hong Kong border?

Probably depends where your observation point in Hong Kong will be. It's not such a small place.

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/C0Kdm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BOc4j.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SuNOf.jpg

Tai Mo Shan is 957 m high.

The whole central Shenzhen, not just towers, should be plainly visible from the summit and northern slopes of Tai Mo Shan.

Any pictures from there?

So if I understand well it's quite good news for PingAn as it's China Construction bureau #1 who won the bid for the construction. China construction bureau has a lot of branches such as #2...#13 etc...
Being #1 should put a big priority on the project.
But I'm not sure.

not really.
In fact,China Construction bureau #1 Group Corporation Limited is not strong as China Construction bureau #3 Group Corporation Limited,but not that bad either.So some others hope China Construction bureau #3 Group Corporation Limited would be the finnal bidder which means Ping'an IFC will be built faster.
anyway,all the ping'an IFC fans dont need to warry about that.Let's give some power and confidence to the China Construction bureau #1 Group Corporation Limited coz it really get enough Strength.:lol:

http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111108/17/56673426201111081752024165098889150_002.jpg
http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111108/17/56673426201111081752024165098889150_009.jpg
http://img2081.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111108/17/56673426201111081752024165098889150_008.jpg

it rains all day long in SZ,thanks Gjhhose for taking these pics !

The colourful umbrella makes a return...

Observation Deck. And what a OD it is! Truly I think one of the most epic I ever seen. Surely it will be great experience to eat there with the great views outside, and great design inside:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9033/006obsdeck.jpg
Such an epic design. I'm glad some projects are re-introducing postmodernism with such good taste. It's breathing Art Deco!
This could be my favourite 21st century supertall once finished.

Definitely the best and most imposing skyscraper top I've seen in a while.

Tai Mo Shan is 957 m high.

The whole central Shenzhen, not just towers, should be plainly visible from the summit and northern slopes of Tai Mo Shan.

Any pictures from there?

hello,Tai Mo Shan located in HK.
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/10/6/101317890017209.jpg
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/10/6/111317890109402.jpg
these 2 pics was taken on HK side,not sure in Tai Mo Shan or not. Can ya see the kingkey 100(http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=346588 ) ?
anyway,you get some feeling as Jurassic Park:lol:

http://pic.feeyo.com/pic/20110801/201108010857196780.jpg
BY SKYMAN

this one was taken in the highest mountain in SZ,called Wu Tong Mountain(Phoenix Tree Mountain in English/943.7meters high)

^^
Nice photo!

Looks good

http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111108/22/56673426201111082253034174735545331_000.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111108/22/56673426201111082253034174735545331_001.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111108/22/56673426201111082253034174735545331_002.jpg
BY gjhhose

damn rainning day,it looks so foggy.
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111107/22/64373828201111072241533026218978427_051.jpg
http://img165.poc[IMG]http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111107/22/64373828201111072241533026218978427_045.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111107/22/64373828201111072241533026218978427_050.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111107/22/64373828201111072241533026218978427_048.jpg
http://img165.poco.cn/mypoco/myphoto/20111107/22/64373828201111072241533026218978427_047.jpg

BY 1788111

Good to see the progress.:)

Exciting project...

Hi all.


Well it is completed by standards of 99% people here I believe. Otherwise it wouldn't have the status completed on CTBUH, emporis, wikipedia, skyscraperpage and even here on skyscrapercity the thread title clearly says COM. Even Imre claims its completed. If we want to compare buildings with each other we have to have equal standards for all of them. And the truth is that if we'd like to wait for opening of all bars and renting/fitting out all space in every building we would have to extend construction period of all buildings twice or even triple of the actual construction time. And the fact that there is no clients interested in renting this office space (so it won't be fitted out), or that one club is still not open doesn't mean that generally burj is not completed.

Seriously if they won't rent that office space in say 10 years you will still claim "The Building" is not completed yet?

Really no offense intended, just felt like it has to be said.

cheers :cheers:

Hi Pat.
No offense taken.

1 - The council does have a couple of minor errors on their BK page AFAIK but who am I to question ?
2 - Emporis, Wikipedia (really ?), and forums opinions are meaningless.
3 - I wasn't aware Imre calls the BK completed.
4 - There are 3 structures that are part of the BK project and 2 of them aren't open yet, why would you call that completed ?
5 - I have never said nor implied that any project is only completed when it is fully occupied, not sure where that is coming from.
6 - No offence intended but I believe the whole of the works may be completed but untill there is some confirmation or at least 'The Club' opens I can't be sure.
7 - Pm me or bring this discussion to the BK thread if you want to continue so this thread can remain on topic - peace.

Back on topic.
I'm wondering if this project will will be using some interesting proceedures when it moves past the foundation stage ? So far it has been the most thought provoking project to watch.

:cheers:
Ray.

hello,Tai Mo Shan located in HK.
http://pic.qnpic.com:83/r.jsp?fn=//fanjoin/share/2011/10/6/101317890017209.jpg

these 2 pics was taken on HK side,not sure in Tai Mo Shan or not. Can ya see the kingkey 100(http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=346588 ) ?
anyway,you get some feeling as Jurassic Park:lol:

Could you see Kowloon or HK island from this vantage point?

Could you see Kowloon or HK island from this vantage point?

of course,you can.

of course,you can.

Kowloon Peak is closer to Kowloon, and 602 m high.

Tai Mo Shan seems to be in direct line between central Shenzhen and central Hong Kong, so as to block views there.

Looking north-northwest from Victoria Peak (550 m or so high) which parts of Shenzhen are blocked from view by higher mountains (Tai Mo Shan, Kowloon Peak) and which parts can be seen through gaps in Hong Kong mountains?

Such an epic design. I'm glad some projects are re-introducing postmodernism with such good taste. It's breathing Art Deco!
This could be my favourite 21st century supertall once finished.

Definitely the best and most imposing skyscraper top I've seen in a while.

I totally agree. It looks very impressive. :)
Should be a great view from there, I guess.

What are those large stones doing there in the mall pit?

^^ dug out and waiting to be removed

What are those large stones doing there in the mall pit?



Damn Dung Beetles :lol:

Sorry if that has been discussed already; but what about the Hotel bit of the complex? The one that is supposed to be located across Fu Hua San Lu from the plot that is always photographed.

Is there any activity?

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/V8gdX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bSEUM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1KmPD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SDk4M.jpg

What is the purpose of these scaffold like structures on top of the rebar?
AT least they give a good indication how incredibly thick this floor will be.

by gjhhose

http://thumbsnap.com/i/af1JS3TH.jpg

^^to tie up the rebars.

i think he meant the smaller scaffoldings all over the place not the one with the cylinders on them .

So when can we expect the concrete pouring?

looks to be some monumental work being done down there I hope they'll get the pour before the first snow

^^ Probably early to mid December. The lower layer of rebar was completed in about 2 weeks. Now they're placing the supports that will carry the upper layer (the scafholding). Another thing is that above the foundation piles they are placing steal elements that will hold the supports for the reinforcement columns in the core. The already placed one, see the last close-up picture in Scion's post. On a few other piles they only placed the steel elements so far. I think it will take another week or so to install the remaining supports and then about 2 to 3 weeks to build the remaining of the upper layer of rebar. Hope this answered your question a bit :)

Thanks Tag one. So in other words we should expect that by Christmas. That would be the best Christmas present we could think of. :)

by 1788111

http://thumbsnap.com/i/5hRX8YDl.jpg

http://thumbsnap.com/i/NQ86PkVF.jpg

looks to be some monumental work being done down there I hope they'll get the pour before the first snow

Hi:

Shenzhen is below the tropic of Cancer. It may have snow flakes once in a life time or so.

Laojang

Hi:

Shenzhen is below the tropic of Cancer. It may have snow flakes once in a life time or so.

Laojang

Thank you I just had a look at the wiki for the town and seems to be quite an interesting city :)

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/YsQXD.jpg

by 校&长

http://i.imgur.com/UnR7j.jpg

looks to be some monumental work being done down there I hope they'll get the pour before the first snow

Ha ha ... there's no snow in Shenzhen . It's in the south of China , right beside Hong Kong .

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/B4Zq9.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7hazV.jpg

nice update.

Congredulation for this skyscraper.

Oh wow, they're finally doing stuff in the other hole.

what are they doing to the other hole is it a part of the tower too? i thought it was just to get trucks and other stuff down the other hole

Oh wow, they're finally doing stuff in the other hole.

mind your language! :nuts: ;)

what are they doing to the other hole is it a part of the tower too? i thought it was just to get trucks and other stuff down the other hole

It's for the mall.

what are they doing to the other hole is it a part of the tower too? i thought it was just to get trucks and other stuff down the other hole

As far as i know it is for the second Tower you can see on the renders

^^ No it's not, it's for the mall. The hotel tower goes next to the mall across the street.

Wow it's gonna be a incredibly thick slab, I figure they probably want the entire foundation finished prior to the Chinese new year next year.

Lots of questions for our specialists on the last 2 pictures.

On the mall site:
- What are those circles in the middle of the concrete?
- What are these white and blue rings?
- What are these "telegraphic poles in the middle"
- Why are they digging a hole right in the middle surrounded by yellow and black fences

On the main site:
It seems that the all symmetry is gone now!
- Why only the upper right pile has rebars tied into a high square shape?
- Why does the upper left pile has a steel structure attached to it, I don't see any room on the other piles that would allow to insert the same structure

Sorry if my questions are not very well phrased but if someone could give us some more technical inputs on what's happening I would appreciate.

Thanks

I'm not an expert at all, i just assume that:
- the white circles look like spools of wire, usually used to tight rebar togheter.
- the blue segments, look like parts of casting wall for a concrete formwork, maybe they will dig down into the holes and pour concrete similar as they did for the huge piles in the bigger hole.
- the poles supply electricity to some distribution panels which can be seen on the poles, the ancient digging machines and cranes will be supplied from there. remember about the main hole, few months ago, when they dug the holes for the huge collumns, they had lots of small cranes around.
- the hole in the middle looks like is collecting water, same as the trench 8-10 meters in the right side where are those two workers.

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/7lXHU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ViLtd.jpg

by gjhhose

http://i.imgur.com/2Arrm.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dQAoW.jpg

^^ they slowly begin to lay top layer of rebars. I would say 2 or 3 more weeks and the grand pouring will begin.