witham wharf in lincoln is a rebuild of an 8 floor office block with two floors tacked on the top. when complete it will have 119 apartments.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=4725

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic2.jpg

june -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic4.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic5.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic6.jpg

july

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic7.jpg

when finished itll look like this -
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic1.jpg

I do really like this development and looks IMO better in the flesh. The top floors are going to have some cracking views. Best spot on the marina.

I'll get some pics of it quite soon when i'm next in Lincoln. There are also plans for the ugly concrete car park behind it but nothing had begun when i saw it last.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/1268461030_602f1b8955_b.jpg

Went to Lincoln yesterday. Really nice place...lots of nice people The Catherdrals AMAZING!! I'll post some pics when I get a chance.

Hello

Hope you don't mind me interrupting all these Nottingham and Leicester discussions with a Lincoln topic! And not that anyone's even interested in Lincoln anyway... lol. There's not too much going on in Lincoln, but there's a couple of projects happening.

For those that don't know Lincoln, the city centre kinda has three main areas...

Downhill (Highstreet and roads spanning off this) such as...

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/8d/150px-IMG_3744.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/S7006838.jpg


Uphill (Bailgate, Cathedral and Castle) such as...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/27/Lincoln_Cathedral_from_Castle_Hill.jpg/800px-Lincoln_Cathedral_from_Castle_Hill.jpg


Brayford Marina such as...

http://www.withamwharf.com/images/gallery/large1.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v107/152/73/823500136/n823500136_951637_3416.jpg


Most of the development is still around the Marina at the moment, with a couple of the projects following in the next post.

Witham Wharf, Brayford Wharf East
Complete rebuild of an 8 storey office building, with two floors added. Two restaurant units below.

From the front in drawing.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic1.jpg

Taken Today, from, well the other side really to the pic above. The car park adjoining is also being recladded.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/S7006836.jpg


Brayford Marina South developments (next to the university)

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4961BlockCBrayfordMarina_pic1.jpg

And here is where the above development will be.. on the carpark.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/S7006831.jpg



Another development on the marina... and this one will sit to the right of the above photo.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4963BlockDBrayfordMarina_pic1.jpg



Broadgate, Lincoln

Not keen on this one...
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/bgate.jpg

Going to be situated, on the bottom right corner of this photo, over the road. Opposite another modern 8 or so storey building.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1169/1204282842_1f980c08eb.jpg





Well there's a few Lincoln things, not very exciting I know, but oh well, thought I'd post something as it is also in the East Midlands! There's a lot of old/new in Lincoln, I am quite keen on the modern/old look. And there's always new restaurants and bars opening all the time, especially on the Marina. Prezzo are opening 2 more of their brands on there shortly, to go along with the likes of Ask, Lloyds, So:Luxe, Chimichanga and other restaurants and bars on that strip.

Hello

Hope you don't mind me interrupting all these Nottingham and Leicester discussions with a Lincoln topic! And not that anyone's even interested in Lincoln anyway... lol. There's not too much going on in Lincoln, but there's a couple of projects happening.


Lincoln is part of the East Midlands as much as Leicester or Nottingham and welcome to this forum.

Can I say those developments look great.

I hope you will keep us regularly updated on the Lincoln schemes. I've been there and it is unique. Near the vineyard bit by the cathedral you could be in Italy somewhere.

I quite like Lincoln.. I came last week.. that "Goodies" is AMAZING! I want one in Notts lol!!

I posted this in the witham wharf thread last week..

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/1268461030_602f1b8955_b.jpg

I've got some more pics I took in Lincoln and I'll post em when I finish processing them...

the catherdral is AMAZING!! One of the best in the world no doubt.

There's not too much at the moment really, the thing with Lincoln is that unlike Leicester and Nottingham, there aren't like huge areas of building that can/will be knocked down to create new projects. And space is generally lacking at the moment in the centre anyway. It's quite full on.

There is a 'streets and spaces' type scheme, whereby the paving is all currently being redone on one part of the high street with yorkshire setts, and trees planted etc. But that's hardly anything exciting.


But apart from the above in my post with those building projects, I don't think there is too much going on, however Lincoln is always changing, so you never know in the near future! I'll keep you updated.

And yep the Cathedral/area is nice...


To be fair, I just go to university in Lincoln, and my home town is Market Harborough near to Leicester.. but thought I'd add a touch of Lincoln! Although from next week or so, I'll be living in Lincoln more or less full time for the next couple of years.

Since you live close to Leicester too maybe you could input into our threads aswell if you want (that's if you ever come to Leicester).

How active is the Lincoln Civic Society btw? :lol:

greetings fellow lincolnian. i am from lincoln, and am one of the owners of this place, and skyscrapernews. ive been meaning to do a set of pics of the place once we get decent weather for more than an afternoon....

Yep.. A good set of pics would be brill, but like you say the weather can be a bit off at times lol.

About time, its great to have a thread about Lincoln, such a nice place. There are a lot of mid - rise developments going on too that i really like especially Witham Wharf and that new building opposite the road from that other development (would like to see a pic of it if possible). I can vaguely remember what it looks like.

the marina looks great, i wish leicester would get on wiv the one they proposed years back, but i think it fell thru as usual.

still lincoln, great city, and for once, i hope that new developments dont spoil what uve got, a great looking, great feeling city in most parts.

the marina looks great, i wish leicester would get on wiv the one they proposed years back, but i think it fell thru as usual.

still lincoln, great city, and for once, i hope that new developments dont spoil what uve got, a great looking, great feeling city in most parts.

BG - I think the marina in Leicester is still on. We are waiting on the Blueprint proposals for the area, which were due in August 2007.

I too like the look of Lincoln. A truly great cathedral and I've heard that there are some excellent pubs too.

Just reading about proposed plans for 'Lindongate' a new development for Lincoln. Not much on it so far

Would include:
350,000sq ft accommodation
100,000sq ft department store
4 major space retail units
34 standard retail units
new riverside restaurant quarter

1000 space car park
new passenger transport interchange


There's an information event next week for it in the Central Library. This development would be a good link to the city centre shopping that currently exists.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/lindon.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/lindon1.jpg



Nothing too exciting, but that's lincoln for ya. lol

Good to see a break from Nottingham and Leicester especially as its Lincoln (my nearest city for many years). I really like the mix of well thought out new buildings and amazing old ones. Great place.

Welcome Teal200. Firstly, let me say you being far too modest about the developments in Lincoln and by what you have shown us they look real quality. Good on Lincoln its a smart city!:banana:

Was the backacter in Dan's photo put there by accident?
I really like the look of the Brayford Marina project. Whats the status of that?

I think that was there when they were removing sludge or something from the marina! lol.

The newer marina projects listed above are starting in construction shortly I think, they've been approved. I seem to recall seeing hoarding up now. An office block and another two restaurants have also been approved recently too for the south side of the marina where the university is opposite the odeon, restaurants and bars on the other side.
The Performing Arts Centre has just been completed too on the south side.

Also about a few months ago there looked to be more Lincoln Uni buildings going up next to the railway line to the west of the student village.

Most Lincoln developments are really nice except the student flats on the south side of the railway line. In parts they're just bare grey breeze blocks.

Yeah, the pavillions are poorly designed for sure... with the large amount of grey concrete on part
http://www.mezzino.co.uk/_media/_images/pavilions/home/pav_home_building_thb.jpg
and theres loads of the blocks of them now but aren't really visible from most areas unless of course passing on the train line or going across brayford way in the car.

But yes apart from that, most developments in Lincoln are alright.

Thanks Teal for the piccies and info i would say Lincoln is about a quarter the size of Leicester and is a genuine historical city. But despite this has a healthy attitude to modern and relatively tall buildings.

I believe from memory that Lincoln has a few 60's tower blocks. If so do you know how many and how many storeys they are ?

NB Worcester is a similar sized city with similar historical credentials and also has some 60's Tower blocks.

In my opinion even in historical cities there is a place for tall blocky buildings.

I think Leicester people are High-rise phobic in general and also crave to be a historical city (ie promote city through historic buildings) when in reality we are not. Although of course we do have some historical buildings, but they are not of the quality or importance to dominate the citys identity.

I don't know how many blocks there are, but shuttleworth house is 16 storeys I think.

lincoln has three... the tallest is shuttleworth house at 50m. it looks like this -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/449ShuttleworthHouse_pic3.jpg

also lincoln is actually about 45% of the size of leicester in terms of population however it has *very* tight boundaries. more people live in the conurbation outside the city than in it so the population is spread over three district councils. after nottingham, leciester, northampton and derby its the largest conurbation in the region.

after nottingham, leciester, northampton and derby its the largest conurbation in the region.

Well, yeah! Fifth and last!

*grins*.... and here's the growth figures for you -

amount of housing to be built -
city of lincoln - 13,100
north kesteven (ONS lincoln urban area) - 11,000
west lindsey (ONS lincoln urban area) - 4,250
rest of central lincolnshire (greater lincoln catchment area excluding above) - 17,400
total - 45,750

lincoln urban area population 2001 - 120,000
lincoln urban area population 2021 - 194,500

lincoln conurbation population 2001 - 148,689

greater lincoln catchment area 2001 - 259,134
greater lincoln catchment area 2006 - 277,300
greater lincoln catchment area 2021 - 397,622

i might add that the lincoln urban area population does not take into account that the houses built will fill in the gaps with places currently outside the conurbation so grwoth for it is less than it will really be and that the current figures of 120,000 by the govt manage to list places in the conurbation which apparently arent part of the urban area. not sure how that works anyone want to explain how you can be part of a conurbation physically and not part of the urban area! i cant list the growth for the conurbation as i dont know the precise amount of houses due to be built in places like bracebridge heath. anyone also want to explain why the leicester urban area includes places not physically attached to it whilst the lincoln one excludes places that area and doesnt count anywhere that isnt physically attached to it (something that forced the council to create that catchment thing so they could lobby for money on the same terms as other places)

Thanks Gothicform for the picture and info on Lincoln high-rises. Shuttleworth house is a classic 60's tower block the sort typified in Birmingham !

I hope they are not too unpopular must afford some great views of Lincolnshire up in one of those.

I wonder what the councils policy is on these blocks when they need large scale repairs will they refurbish them or knock them down ?

Very surprised at how big a city Lincoln actually is around 120,000 (learn something new everyday)

shuttleworth house has been done up actually. not sure about the views of lincoln, that picture of it is taken from lincoln cathedral looking DOWN on it. heh.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/449ShuttleworthHouse_pic1.jpg

lincoln is actually bigger though, for example lincoln is physically connected in every way to north hykeham which is the largest town in north kesteven and the fastest growing place in the country. the conurbation figure for 2001 is the correct figure, we took every part of lincoln attached to it then and added the population figures together. the govt said 120,000 listed parts of lincoln and yet even the parts they listed added up to more than 120,000 at 148,689. you should take the 148,000 figure as the gospel population for the conurbation in 2001.

giving you an example of how this is working north kesteven which is immediately to the south of lincoln had a population of 96852 in 2001. in 2006 it was 103,200 with most of this population growth in the area that's physically connected to lincoln, but not part of it that the council calls "the lincoln fringe" so population figures are immediately out of date. the 2006 figures have actually already passed the govts 2011 predictions for lincoln, north kesteven and west lindsey.

Lincoln does have 3 tower blocks but only that one, Shuttleworth House is visible on the skyline. The other two are really tucked away on an estate in the north and the other ones in the south west. Infact you'd need a pretty tall building to be built to detract from the cathedral. It really does dominate the city.

Lincoln does have 3 tower blocks but only that one, Shuttleworth House is visible on the skyline. The other two are really tucked away on an estate in the north and the other ones in the south west. Infact you'd need a pretty tall building to be built to detract from the cathedral. It really does dominate the city.

The fact that Lincoln has any buildings over ten storeys tall is a miracle. Well done Lincoln City Council, in seeing that the cathederal should not totally dictate planning policy.

I used to live in Lincoln too since I went to university there. Since graduated this year. Whilst being a student I was also a Special and let me say that the tower blocks, especially Shuttleworth House but also the others up North are what I would call "crime" spots and having been inside the building, not exactly my cup of tea. The buildings themselves I don't particularly like, a throwback to the 60's and 70's tower blocks. It's nice to have high-rises but they aren't the best of examples!

When I started University I saw Witham Wharf prior to the new additional construction work and it looked awful. Now, it looks fantastic, a great addition to the Lincoln skyline and the Marina. The other developments in the pipeline also look fantastic. I did read in the Lincolnshire Echo or the Lincoln Chronicle of a 15 year old boy who was against all the high rise developments and the paper made a big deal about it and I could not, for the life of me, figure out what all the big deal was about. Progress and growth is important to the local economy if not more so than just the view. I can just imagine them saying "Oh, we may be poor, jobless and hungry, but don't worry about that, we've got our view of the Cathedral to keep us happy!" :lol:

The Lindongate proposal was still just a proposal up until the time I left and I never really saw the sketches that are up here now but may I say it will look a lot better than what is there at the moment! Place is ripe for redevelopment. That bus station is an awful layout, the Co-Op shop is hideous and ought to be replaced with something a little better laid out too.

Something that Lincoln desperately needs is a huge multi-storey car park, underground and above ground, simply because there just is not enough spaces to go around at the moment! It needs to be affordable too.

I must also agree that the new Pavilions Student housing blocks are hideous. They are architectural monstrosities that could have been so much better than they actually are, but c'est la vie.

But above all that, the thing I would want to wish for Lincoln is for the railways to be sorted. I mean the length of time I have spent stuck behind the level crossings on the High Street, unbelievably obscene length. The traffic as a result, in the city centre was truly horrendous at times.

noticed just how stupid the level crossing thing is getting in lincoln, it was down yesterday for 17 minutes constantly as two passenger trains and three goods trains went past in quick succession. this happened about 6pm! talk about insane traffic problems, everything was all backed up and gridlocked as usual by the result. it costs the economy 44p per minute for every car passenger whos time is wasted sitting in a jam so 1000 people x 17 minutes = £7480. multiply that by 365 and you get £2,735,000 which is pretty shocking and thats a year and just one period of an hour!

noticed just how stupid the level crossing thing is getting in lincoln, it was down yesterday for 17 minutes constantly as two passenger trains and three goods trains went past in quick succession. this happened about 6pm! talk about insane traffic problems, everything was all backed up and gridlocked as usual by the result. it costs the economy 44p per minute for every car passenger whos time is wasted sitting in a jam so 1000 people x 17 minutes = £7480. multiply that by 365 and you get £2,735,000 which is pretty shocking and thats a year and just one period of an hour!

It's an historical shame is that ! I see Lincoln Central has been modernised platforms renumbered, signalling to be updated. And the prospect of direct trains to London.

Would it be feasable to tunnel under the railway and get rid of the level crossing ?

yeah. it would however have been much more sensible to build the station where st marks is and st marks where the station is. they wont do a thing though, cost too much money.

yeah. it would however have been much more sensible to build the station where st marks is and st marks where the station is. they wont do a thing though, cost too much money.

Am i right in thinking St Marks has now closed ? I remember it being a small station on the Nottingham , Newarke service i think. and was it a terminous ?

From memory it was a quiet station away from the town centre and obviously ddidn't clash with the road traffic.

Yeah St Marks Station is now Lakeland and Argos! And other buildings have been built in a similar style around it making a shopping area which also has Debenhams, Costa and the like.
St Marks is very close to Lincoln central!

But yes those railway crossings are a proper nuisance!

yeah st marks was that. they closed it and built new shops outside of the core retail area of lincoln (nice planning there). would have been smarter for the shops to go in the core.

I've noticed that as well. The main shopping ares is to the north of the station plus when you go over the railway crossing you get the feeling that you are out of the city centre. Then you see a big Debenhams and JJB on your right. Maybe there wasnt the big units available in the city centre, I bet that was it because from memory Lincoln doesnt have that many large shop units fit for department stores.

Usual short sighted sell the railway land off to make a quick book. Mind you cities exist in the today, long term planning is a bit of a luxury. Although it would seem that the road traffic situation will pretty soon force the Lincoln council to have to do something.

A Lincoln thread! I was thinking of biting the bullet and starting one, being a Lincolnian myself!

The level crossing amuses everyone who I know who have been to Lincoln in the past - is there anywhere else that has the same problem?

There are some decent develops for a City of it's size - I quite like this one on the North side of the Brayford - I don't think it's been posted - it's a hotel, With a first in Lincoln - a glass elavator!

http://www.christopherbarnard.co.uk/hotel.jpg

Has anyone got any more renders of the Broadgate development. That's the first time I'd seen it. I think they're getting rid of the pub on the corner - it's a shame, as this was just one long line of terrace housing - the pub was really the last remnant of this.

Anyone got some information on that new Holiday Inn hotel not far from the university? Im not sure if thats the correct name, but im talking about the hotel being constructed just off the roundabout.

Heres a picture of it fully constructed
sorry about the quality, it was taken on my phone

http://i35.************/29wafyp.jpg

Looking good ! it's good to see an historic town accomadating the idea of modern blocks.

yes. i really should take some photos of the finished buildings!

i found this one from 2004 yesterday of holmes wharf under construction

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4343HolmesWharf_pic2.jpg

and one of witham wharf under construction from the castle -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic3.jpg

Impressive stuff ! it's got to be about 15/16 storeys

they are 10 floors each. the tallest approved building in lincoln is only 12 floors.

Last time i saw it they've reclad the car park as well.

Yes the carpark has been recladded.

I'm currently staying in Hayes Wharf which is the top of the two pictures in gothics picture post above. It was finished in 05 though.

They are meant to be starting two more on the other side of the marina... http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4961BlockCBrayfordMarina_pic1.jpg
That one included.

hey gothic and everyone else from lincoln. just moved here to study at the uni. Any developments that need updating, let me know because i'd like to have a wonder round with the camera to get to know the place. :)

hi there. anyone know when the brayford marina south development starts? or if has been approved or what not?

marina development is approved. currently the site is clear and there are a few boards around it advertising it. marketing of the scheme has not yet begun though and given how badly witham wharf has sold (grossly overpriced, who would pay as much as you pay in canary wharf?) i think we might be waiting a while. i will take a pic of the site on monday if i have time.

Anyone got some information on that new Holiday Inn hotel not far from the university? Im not sure if thats the correct name, but im talking about the hotel being constructed just off the roundabout.


Yeah it's a Holiday Inn Express, I've seen some pictures somewhere on the net of what it will look like but can't find them now.
I can see it from my kitchen window being built.

Anyone got some information on that new Holiday Inn hotel not far from the university? Im not sure if thats the correct name, but im talking about the hotel being constructed just off the roundabout.

yes. its 9 floors tall.



I'm currently staying in Hayes Wharf which is the top of the two pictures in gothics picture post above. It was finished in 05 though.

i was chatting to the architect of holmes wharf last week by the way. he said he was quite pleased with how it turned out given what it is, and felt quite sad when standing on the top of it as it topped out that it would be student flats as the view was so good!

teal. i always thought hayes wharf was called holmes wharf. so does the architect. they still have it called their on their website, wonder why the name changed although i have just renamed it on SSN.

i think i have the contact details for the architect who did the marina. i'll see if i can get in touch on tuesday.

hey gothic and everyone else from lincoln. just moved here to study at the uni. Any developments that need updating, let me know because i'd like to have a wonder round with the camera to get to know the place.

skyscrapercity has always worked on the basis though that if you like something, take a pic of it and post it on the forum. we're all interested in that and photography too. i should really do it too but ive always assumed there's no one on this forum from here! what i have done is stuck the main thread to the top of the page. i think we should all post here and keep it alive... we even have a u/c 9 storey hotel we can post pics of!

anyway i am going to stick this thread i think.

Hey guys thanks for the updates and flying the flag for Lincoln.

Do you think that Marina development will stilll go ahead weren't they in a legal tussle for related tower block opposite?

Yes we've got a few curious hotels going up not least the one on Tritton Road - I think it's probably a little 'identikit' but I'd love to see some shots!

Also any movement on either the extension of the existing hotel on the Brayford or perhaps they've even started the new one next to it.

Also the flats on Broadgate - have they started?

Lincoln really did surprise me when I went (I was considering Uni there) its a small city but has the feeling of somewhere much bigger, probably as its out there on its own - in Derby there's something of a leeching effect from all the nearby big cities.

It must only have a population of 85000, around the same as nearby S****horpe and Grimsby really, but it has much more of a city feel about it (even excluding the cathedral). I dont live in lincoln myself but i go there somethimes, i'm off on Monday actually. I've also got a mate who goes to the uni and he loves it.

once again the population stats -

lincoln urban area population 2001 - 120,000
lincoln urban area population 2021 - 194,500

lincoln conurbation population 2001 - 148,689

greater lincoln catchment area 2001 - 259,134
greater lincoln catchment area 2006 - 277,300
greater lincoln catchment area 2021 - 397,622

urban area for some reason excludes chunks of the conurbation... don't ask me why. its a government figure. catchment area is the metro area so to speak. city of lincoln isn't growing by much but the areas immediately outside the boundary it is physically attached to are the fastest growing places in the country.

the huge catchment area population is because as thomski mentions its pretty much on its own and this is what is/should be judged when looking at actual goods and services, things like jobs or retail. in terms of catchment area it rivals places like hull and punches massively above its weight!

what's interesting is that the growth is such the gaps between what are currently independent villages and the conurbation are being filled in so the conurbation increases in spurts but unlike places such as milton keynes this is not being centrally planned by government - it's entirely organic growth. for example, 2007 saw waddington become physically connected to lincoln. it's bigger than it is, the question is... how big? you can see too that washingborough and heighington have merged into one and have a combined population now equivalent to a small town according to govt definitions, you can see ive marked the single field separating it from lincoln. bracebridge heath is also booming, in 2000 it had 1,500 people living there, now the figure is 4,000. planned development will see it physically connect with lincoln by 2021. north hykeham is supposedly a town of its own but you can see its part of the sprawl of lincoln.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/lincoln_growth.jpg

blue was built in 2006 and red in 2007.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/David-Napoleon.png

Welcome Lincolnians, great to see your thread is now a sticky, long overdue. East Midlands is more then just about Leicester, Nottingham and Derby. :)

greetings fellow lincolnian. i am from lincoln, and am one of the owners of this place, and skyscrapernews. ive been meaning to do a set of pics of the place once we get decent weather for more than an afternoon....

Any skyscrapers?. Anything over 10 stories in Lincoln? That's your criteria for Ireland getting a sub-forum and Hull and the North East not. :lol:

you have a thread, we have a thread. i think this might count as a tall building

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/384LincolnCathedral_pic1.jpg

Can you make ours sticky please?

Pic taken on Monday

http://i35.************/e5s5na.jpg

Just two photos of the holiday inn express being built... nothing exciting! ha.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/Photo-0233.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h133/timguk/Photo-0234.jpg

bit squat innit. is it topped out already? can't tell behind that scaffolding.

would there be 3 holiday inns now, with this?

there's a holiday inn on the waterfront, and this is the holiday inn express.... lets just wait for the other holiday inn addition.

holiday inn must love lincoln.

Great pics- I'm not sure that hotel is going to set the world alight. I 'm surprised it's so small considering the need for hotel accommodation in Lincoln.

Any news on the Broadgate flats - ground work - anything?

in all fairness lincoln is about to get direct train routes to london that i believe will alternate with york. this firmly puts the city on a major tourist trail and with the cathedral i don't think it's unexpected that we need more hotel accommodation. this is a view shared by the council who believe that several hundred more rooms need to be created in lincoln to take account of the demand during the summer season. apparently at peak times people are unable to stay in lincoln because there are not enough hotel rooms so are forced instead to look to places like nottingham. it's their own stupid fault though for approving planning applications to turn hotels into student accommodation back in 2004-2005.

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yeah st marks was that. they closed it and built new shops outside of the core retail area of lincoln (nice planning there). would have been smarter for the shops to go in the core.

I did my a-level project on the development of st marks and the intention was to help regenerate the old high street, obviously failed, but the intention was there.

scaffolding coming off the new holiday inn.

I did my a-level project on the development of st marks and the intention was to help regenerate the old high street, obviously failed, but the intention was there.

Cool can you post it! :banana:

The St Marks development is all wrong - it is really arse about face they should have opened up the front and closed St marks street.

The best part - the old station is hidden away - and it's really quite nice.

There is no symmetry with the rest of Lincoln - I think there has been talk of adressing it in the Lincoln masterplan but I don't see how they are going to do it especially as St Marks street is apparently due to become a thoroughfare right across town. More severance! :nuts:

It was a long time ago, try 10 years old.

I did my a-level project on the development of st marks and the intention was to help regenerate the old high street, obviously failed, but the intention was there.

why does the high street need regenerating further down anyway??? what's wrong with keeping shops in the historical core? it was utter stupidity, just like sticking the university where they did rather than a bit further out of town. now the best sites are taken, not by private development but by student housing!

For any visitor to Lincoln coming from the train station you naturally head north up High Street as thats where you expect all the shops to be. Looking the opposite way over the level crossing you get the impression that you are heading out of the city centre, not that theres a Debenhams department store down there.

If you stick it far out of town, then you don't get the regeneration benefits, personally like having the uni where it is. City centre uni's largely centrally are much better than ones stuck out of town.

The old high street is a dump.

well right now you have the regeneration benefits with it taking up ALL the prime land! instead it should be stimulating growth on the prime land itself. the uni should be between green lane and beevor street. the people who i know who designed buildings in the university agree with me that the land they are on is "too good". the end result is that private development is going to have to be on the brownfield sites a bit further out but these sites are less commercially attractive.

great quality at the back!

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glass showing at the front. not sure what this is suppose to look like.

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whats happening with the surrounding area behind this, its like a wasteland?

Apparently it will be some weird looking bubble building on that land. I saw it in the plans when the Holiday Inn Express was drawn up. Can't remember what it was for though...

nice to see the local newspaper was WRONG about the number of floors it would have. they said 9!

did anyone see the newest route for the lincoln bypass thats been moved even further to the east than before so they can fit another 10,000 homes in around bracebridge heath?

nope haven't seen that. any map of some sort to show?


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nice one of witham wharf today. it is too good for students lol

yes it is. we don't want your type living here! it's still quite empty though, slightly odd feeling that.

i took a map on my phone whilst reading the paper at the chinese! i'll post it tomorrow.

A route for the high-speed Lincoln eastern bypass has been selected.

The dual carriageway – designed to relieve the congestion choking the city – will cut a swathe through green fields.

It will sweep further to the east than previously planned to make space for up to 10,000 new homes.

Highways officers say they have selected the line which has the backing of both residents and councils and is the most likely to get Government funding.

It is the so-called Line Z which would carry vehicles from the A15 Wragby Road to the A15 just south of Bracebridge Heath.

The cost of the project is currently projected at £116m – almost double the figure quoted three years ago.


http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Plan-Z-chosen-city-eastern-bypass/article-374517-detail/article.html

nope haven't seen that. any map of some sort to show?


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nice one of witham wharf today. it is too good for students lol

Thats a quality refurb. Does anyone have a photo of what it looked like before.

youd like the walnut in the interiors then and the speakers in the ceilings that pipe the music all around the apartment.

^^ don't lie !!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2919866492_182ee3bcb4_b.jpg

it is quality!

but you just don't get balconies with little trees and flowers for students lol!

here's the promised blurry pic of the bypass. as you can see we're up to route z now and the reason its moved further to the east is the increasing amount of housing built or about to be built.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/bypass.jpg

and here's the fixed up tracks and so on at the train station.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/lincolntrainstation.jpg

someone asked what witham wharf and so on looked like before construction. you can also see the undeveloped area of the university -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/P6080351.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/P6080382.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/P6080383.jpg

going back further here's the junxion being built

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/junxion1.jpg

The Junxion has really set the tone for developement around here for me. More so then the university. Witham's refurb is tremendous. Infact the whole quay now is splendid. Im not keen on those scrotty student residencies down by McDonalds. The University architecturally is great. The engine shed has actually brought good bands to the city aswell. :) saves me travelling to Nottingham all the time now. :banana:

Cool updates - can't believe they made the effort to re-furbish the engine shed rather than pull it down - but good on them - that's three quality vintage refurbs around the Brayford. the scream bar, the library and the engine shed.

I love the new rail track - no weeds growing out of the middle!

I'd love to see some older photos of the Brayford area just before the Uni started - it was really high grass and this weird building in the middle I vaguely rememeber - where I'm sure bands could rehearse - not sure though.

Was in Lincoln today and saw the new Express hotel. Its a simple little building but its really crisp with the blue/green windows. It certainly stands out with there being very little else surrounding it.

Walking down high street i realized how much it is let down by the paving. It looks really 80s with the brick planters and could do with bringing up to the standard with the part further up the hill which looked to have been recently redone.

im going to try get some photos of it this week. it is really done well.

i took some photos on saturday. apologies for the quality, stupid weather and they were taken with my phone.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03340-01.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03341-01.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03342-01.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03343-01.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03344-01.jpg

and a development site on the brayford. see how the council plans on framing the routes towards the bridge next to it with tall buildings?

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03345-01.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/dump/DSC03346-01.jpg

how soon are we talking on that development?

Thanks for the photo updates Gothic....

That development seems dead to me - it passed planning yonks ago. I hope not.

Some more news about delays...from the Echo....

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/8-5m-hotel-ready-Christmas-Market/article-466750-detail/article.html

A long-awaited £8.5 million Lincoln hotel will not be ready to welcome guests in time for this year's Christmas Market.

Holiday Inn Express, off Tritton Road, near the city centre, won't be finished in time to meet its original December 1 deadline.

Holiday Inn Express general manager Darren Spencer-Phillips said: "Our opening date has been postponed until Monday, December 15."

That is also the day the much-vaunted Lincoln to London direct rail link is launched.

"But by delaying the opening date we're able to incorporate the brand new Holiday Inn Express design which features flat screen TVs, a stylish decor and our new pillow menu," he said.

It will be the first Holiday Inn Express in the UK to get the upgrade.

The new hotel is creating 18 new jobs.

Lincoln Business Improvement Group events and promotions manager Michael Armstrong said: "It would have been great for it to have opened as planned.

"However, it is good news that we are getting an hotel with an up-market finish."

Lincolnshire Tourism head of marketing Feargus Mack said: "We understand the Holiday Inn Express wish to provide a better quality of facility for staying guests and agree that this will be better in the long term, rather than rushing to open for an event."

"But by delaying the opening date we're able to incorporate the brand new Holiday Inn Express design which features flat screen TVs, a stylish decor and our new pillow menu," he said.

never miss a chance to sell eh ;)


That development seems dead to me - it passed planning yonks ago. I hope not.


well witham wharf is hardly full up yet but i'm not surprised given how it's priced. 1 bedroom flats are per sq m comparable to canary wharf.

two from a couple days back.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/IMG_6126.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/IMG_6124.jpg

k time to bump this thread.

We got this new build/extension next door to the library. Site is being cleared at the mo, ill get some pics of the site. http://www.stemarchitects.co.uk/

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/sparkhouse_two_01.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/sparkhouse_two_02.jpg

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im not that keen on it, but its in keeping with the other building and fills in a gap.

I really like what Lincoln University have brought to the city in terms of architecture, investment. Totally changed the feel of Lincoln

i don't. they took the best land whilst suitable land for them a bit further out of the city is still lying empty. the reason for so few new builds in the city centre is entirely because of the university hogging this land.

^ Or to look at it another way, to counter the criticisms of campus universities being aloof, far away from the city, bringing limited benefits to the residents and making it difficult for local people to access the new facilities, meant the council were in favour of this site, as opposed to the only other viable option which was in Bracebridge Heath.

Thanks for that info grAfIK....looks good but those supports seem to extend into the river!

I'm torn on this one. On one hand I completely agree with Gothic in so far as I would have liked to have seen development of a different type on this land.

Unfortunately despite promises to the contary in the original masterplan the university is not a natural extension to the existing city centre. And of course at quiet times during the year it's suffers from the same problem that all university campuses suffer from - it's dead. This is not the best thing for a city centre location.

On the other hand I wouldn't have liked to have seen the Uni at Bracebridge and the housing development isn't too bad up there, and there were no guarantees that the Brayford site would have been developed to the extent it is now.

It would be terrible if it looked like some of the pre-development pictures you can see on Stems website:

http://www.stemarchitects.co.uk/

I would like to see some more mixed use development - I know something is happening further west from the campus - but not too sure what. A business centre I think - with some housing provision.

:cheers:

I think the university is in a decent place to help the regeneration of the city centre more so than other sites, but that's only my opinion.

There's quite a few plans knocking about for places in Lincoln but not many seem to be resolving:


Flaxengate
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5913/flaxit5.jpg
Flaxengate Proposal (http://www.panterhudspith.com/projects/mixed/flaxengateinfo.html) - To update the 'cultural quarter' of the city, (turn right at the top of the high street near pizza express) Currently Danesgate & the Danesgate accomodation there really lets the site down - it looks so rundown.

Lindongate
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8343/lindqa2.jpg
view from the waterside side of the water.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/396/lind2gm8.jpg
view facing towards the statue/market/wilkos.

Lindongate Proposal Area (http://www.lindongatelincoln.co.uk/images/plans/goad_plan.jpg) - 2012 finish, if it gets done - personally I think it looks amazing and is exactly what's needed.
Lindongate Planning PDF (http://www.lincoln.gov.uk/servedoc.asp?filename=Lindongate.pdf)

University of Lincoln Masterplan

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4479/lincoln2oi7.jpg
http://www.armstrongbell.com/projects/pro4_1.htm

University of Lincoln's own imagery, fact sheets and aims (http://visit.lincoln.ac.uk/C13/C6/DesignCompetition/default.aspx)

There are quite a few concepts about, but the majority of the work is to build inbetween the white architectue building and LPAC and grass frontage area. Speculated 2012-2015 completion.

There are differing plans but should the university continute to invest we will see: a Dedicated Business Building, Engineering, Post-grad areas, 2nd science building, library extension and mixed use areas.

Sparkhouse Studios 2 is due for a Oct/Nov 09 complete - there are boards with renders on down by that site.

Ruston Way

I can't find any plans or planning permission documents related to this apart from Lichfield's really old render - http://www.lichfieldplanning.co.uk/projects_regeneration_bep.html

There are plans for affordable homes up there too next to the Brayford Enterprise Park

There is the Lincoln Innovation Centre up by the tall pavilion student buildings there - almost complete.

Western Growth Corridor - Long term plans, up to 2025

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8015/westerngrowthdm8.jpg

Masterplan & info here - http://www.lincolnwgc.info/template_01.asp?PageID=119

That looks to greatly improve the population and economy of Lincoln.

Of course with our current council, and the Eastern Bypass taking forever, I don't know what the chances are for some of these projects.

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Ambitious-plans/article-572528-detail/article.html - Summary of 2008 plans

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/FACELIFT-CASH-VITAL-REPAIRS/article-637280-detail/article.html - £1.2 mill Bailgate facelift

There are other things as well, such as plans near 'The Shed' pub are for a low standing hotel, as well as really old render for a high rise, and there is the hotel on the Waterfront near the Holiday Inn.

Lincoln High Street car park, next to Witham Wharf is getting a £700,000 landscaping too - about time, it's just a muddy mess at the moment. http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/700-000-facelift-city-car-park/article-610982-detail/article.html

And obviously behind M&S on the other side of the water to the Gloryhole, that's getting paved at long last.

see the area in that map marked for employment? thats where the university should have gone.

Maybe it should, but I think that if it was located there; you wouldn't have seen the same Brayford and High street developments, maybe it would have just taken longer to filter through - but I believe the University in its current location has bags of potential to become something special to Lincoln.

Oh and I read the other day that a local architects alongside Lincoln Heritage trust are improving the fascia to 6 or so high street buildings in 2009. Ruddocks was the first to be done - if you go up the high street you'll see it all white and clean - with a new interior ready within a month.

Great updates Tom....

I'd love to know more about those high street refurbns - I knew about Ruddocks.

That Flaxengate proposal has been knocking around for a few years - it was supposed to introduce more specialist shop units. The area must at least look better than it did, what with the innovation centre (workshops) and the museum.

I've not seen the innovation centre - would be good to see some pics if anybody has any.

You just can't be sure of progress for any of these though - I hope Lindongate does get cracking though - a pretty good proposal.


I read that those flats on Broadgate have been pulled (posted earlier)- with interim plans to become a car park. Which probably means once NCP get their hands on it it will be like it for the next 30 years at least - what a shame.

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Garage-pub-site-new-city-car-park/article-645572-detail/article.html

:ohno:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/sparkhouse_two_02.jpgThis photo is from about 10 minutes ago from the top floor of the university library. Just shows current level of work.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6148/sparkhouseee6.jpg

Right now there's a crane being set up, and there's probably about 5-6 people on site.

it has certainly gone up quick, no signs of cladding.

There's currently groundwork going on between the architecture building and the preforming arts building.

I've seen that, but haven't found any planning applications on the lincoln gov website dictating what's going forward. I think they're just clearing it out for something to start in Summer. I hope I'm wrong though.

From today

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/3327609041_67324a06bc_b.jpg

Couple of things happening on Ruston Way at the mo. The website's been updated for the 'Enterprise Park' but I don't know when it'll be started, and the Think Tank (2nd picture) down by the Pavilions is opening in a few weeks.

http://www.brayfordenterprisepark.co.uk/images/visual-g.jpg

http://www.brayfordenterprisepark.co.uk/


Think Tank's chameleon iridescent cladding (looks really nice in person):
http://*************************/england/jpgs/lincoln_think_tank_mb110309_1.jpg

http://*************************/england/lincoln_think_tank.htm

OMG - Great updates...

That THINK TANK building is impressive - where was that hiding! :cheers:

It certainly doesn't look like development around Lincoln is dead - I appreciate it's probably technically not private money - I'm not sure, but still good to know the City is moving forward.

Some interesting news about the East-West relief road - it seems to have come back from the dead. This will open up some development land, finally doing something with the reall depressing bit of land under pelham bridge. I remember when it was stockpiled with coal!

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/East-west-link-road-plan-alive/article-786962-detail/article.html

The first phase of the enterprise looks okay - but it's a shame the height is below that of the new hotel...

Keep the updates coming guys...

It's certainly not dead, just a bit slower than I'd like, and yeh it is a shame it's a floor lower, ah well... :p

There are 'affordable homes' being built up just next to the think tank at the moment, nothing of note - but new development all the same.

In the university inbetween the LPAC and Architecture - they're putting the groundwork and lighting in for a carpark it'd seem. According to the future masterplan this is only temporary - but will probably be there for a good 2-3years in my opinion.

There's a worldwide competition to design the next 3 buildings at the uni, google brings up quite a few links, this one details it well: https://www.competitionline.de/3013543

http://visit.lincoln.ac.uk/C13/C6/DesignCompetition - to see what their speculative plans are. Think we'll have to wait 'til >2015 for most of those though.

snapped this yesterday, i always like how the wood looks

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic8.jpg

It's certainly not dead, just a bit slower than I'd like, and yeh it is a shame it's a floor lower, ah well... :p

There are 'affordable homes' being built up just next to the think tank at the moment, nothing of note - but new development all the same.

In the university inbetween the LPAC and Architecture - they're putting the groundwork and lighting in for a carpark it'd seem. According to the future masterplan this is only temporary - but will probably be there for a good 2-3years in my opinion.

There's a worldwide competition to design the next 3 buildings at the uni, google brings up quite a few links, this one details it well: https://www.competitionline.de/3013543

http://visit.lincoln.ac.uk/C13/C6/DesignCompetition - to see what their speculative plans are. Think we'll have to wait 'til >2015 for most of those though.

And THANKGOD there building a path that goes straight across the grass to the architect building! :banana::banana::banana:

Where was that taken from Gothic - I don't recognise the houses in the foreground at all....

And THANKGOD there building a path that goes straight across the grass to the architect building! :banana::banana::banana:Gotta love the new path. Shame that on the walk towards the Architecture Building that it's blocked by the ugly temporary monstrosity. Also a shame that they've reverted to laying a temporary car park in the land too - was hoping for foundations going down.

Sparkhouse 2 is going up nicely though - I'll look forward to come back after the summer holidays and find that it's more than likely clad, back Sept 16th - so we'll see.

outside the station :) i really should wander around lincoln with camera, i do everywhere but lincoln.

I wonder when Lincoln's google maps imagery will be updated. It's currently around 5 years old. Hoping for street view too...

Don't use google maps for a modern picture. Microsoft live maps uses more recent images.

The microsoft live maps view is even older! (by 2-3 years)

Doesn't seem there is any imagery post 2004.

if you use virtual earth's birdseye view then it's more recent

All I know is Live pictures are more modern than Google pictures where I live.

if you use virtual earth's birdseye view then it's more recentCorrect, but it's almost certainly not after 2004. Much has changed in 5 years, I might do a print screen now and show the changes around the University & Ruston Way.

oh it certainly is, they are rebuilding witham wharf in it and thorngate house is completed. go check.

Not much news around here lately. Lincoln seems to be pretty static - 'Brayford Gardens' on Ruston Way are still going up (nothing interesting) and Sparkhouse 2 is covered in excessive scaffold but all to plan.

Witham Wharf's ground unit has had some planning put in to be changed to B1 offices as well as restaurant/cafe/retail which it's already got. I think they just want to let it, would be nice to see it finally let.

http://building.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/ - large renderings of the finished Sparkhouse, for those interested.

Does seem quiet...the new hotel on the Brayford should be starting soon which should be a fairly interesting development, but there has been no news on Lindongate, and a couple of projects have fallen by the crisis wayside...

All the news seems to be of the tourist information centres shutting and the demise of the rail travel office in the station. Strange when they've re-established direct London links....

^ What they are going to close the ticket office?

Yeah - East Midland Trains cutbacks. I always thought the station was very quiet - now it's going to be completely dead.

well here's a couple of pics -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4343HayesWharf_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic1.jpg

Witham Wharf is a great start for Brayford Wharf East, it's a shame they've not found a tenant to fill the ground floor yet.

When the new hotel goes up on the North side, I really hope it sparks a few more waterfront developments on both the North & East.

What I would love to see:


The red-brick office building next to Witham - knocked flat and a slightly taller (6-7 floor) cleaner glass building put in place with contrasting lighting to the Odeon - it has one of the best sites in Lincoln and it's ugly and unkept.

In between the Echo building and Witham - currently a bit of 'wasted' empty space, would look awesome if a rotunda was built - glassy/white/modern

A modern reclad of the building that sits on the corner of carholme rd/brayford north

the Horse & Groom and houses on the corner demolished and landscaped - with a sculpture/fountains to greet you.
A circular bypass!
pedestrianisation of the lower high street and reroute traffic down tentercroft street with it's needed link up to the A15
lindongate
demolition of the danesgate student flats


I just believe with the right 'forward' thinking, the marina could be the perfect juxtaposition to the historical city behind it, and everyone loves the blue lights on the water - why not continue this forward with subtle lighting from the new hotel/a redeveloped bank offices.

More news about the Siemens move to Teal Park (off the A46 near Whisby)

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Siemens-aiming-entire-operation-city/article-993945-detail/article.html

http://www.tealpark.co.uk/

Really good detailed site plans there - If it all goes to plan I think this'll be great for Lincoln, especially if it opens up the East of the City Centre.

£110m Waste Plant in North Hykeham is one stage closer to being built too.

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Waste-energy-plan-ahead/article-993796-detail/article.html


Not exactly the most glamorous projects, but nice designs all the same.

I'm not sure about the demolition of the Horse and Groom, however it has suffered for it's clinical refurbishment (a few years ago now).

I'm amazed the land between the echo just to the right of gothics great 2nd picture hasn't been redeveloped, it's been like that for all of my 36 years.

The teal park development is going to be great - the opening up of the land is extremely exciting - however there's lot's of very sceptical Siemens employees who don't think it's going to happen at all.

The pedestrianisation of the lower high street is just begging to be sorted - I don't see why they couldn't couple it with the Lindongate and close the traffic oppositite the train station.This would mean closing wigford way, but this has been mooted to consolidate links between 'town and gown'.

Anyway I could go on forever about this....!

I think we all could...and I've only been in the city for 18 months.

Had no idea such a prime piece of land, even in industrial days has sat like that for such a long time, what a waste!

The comments on the echo website from Siemens employees does seem to be a bit off putting, but we'll see.

If us members here had a few hundred million to play with, with little regulation to put towards Lincoln we'd have a cracker of a city within 10 years.

Anyone have any updates on the hotel development on Brayford Wharf North? (there is some activity going on at the site.)

News (that I'm sure you've read) http://thelinc.co.uk/2009/05/university-echo-building-not-a-done-deal/ - Uni. Lincoln to buy the Echo Building.

what do you reckon they might do with the echo? if anythin

the planning application says "change of use" so presumably they are simply going to refurbish the building rather than build something new which is a bit of a pity really.

http://online.lincoln.gov.uk/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/Generic/StdDetails.aspx?PT=PlanningApplicationsOn-Line&TYPE=PL/PlanningPK.xml&PARAM0=302731&XSLT=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Lincoln_AA/xslt/PL/PLDetails.xslt&FT=PlanningApplicationDetails&PUBLIC=Y&XMLSIDE=/Northgate/PlanningExplorer/SiteFiles/Skins/Lincoln_AA/Menus/PL.xml&DAURI=PLANNING

Had no idea such a prime piece of land, even in industrial days has sat like that for such a long time, what a waste!

i remember as a child walking around the actual place twenty or so years ago. it was quite amazing then, these huge empty warehouses totally infested with pigeons and literally inches deep in pigeon shit and half collapsed terraced house complete with the rotting wallpaper still on them. im actually sort of sad it has all been demolished and replaced with stuff like odeon, marriott, NHS building and so on because it was incredible at one point. it would make for stunning photographs too. perhaps it's just me but i find ruins romantic.

^^ would you like to get married in one? :lol:

i don't believe in marriage.

it's hard though to communicate the sheer scale of the warehouses in and around the brayford 20 years ago and the fact they were all ruined along with entire streets of houses. perhaps someone can find pics, i was a bit young at the time to get any?

I know what you mean, while I am all for well thought out reuse of derelict buildings and land I find these abandoned buildings fascinating and somewhat saddening, especially the now closed industrial sites such as the Nottinghamshire collieries (I should probably post some photographs sometime).

I think it's a shame about the Echo Building. If it doesn't get any sort of a re-clad - it's not going to be a great aesthetic addition to the University, in fact as they've been ploughing along nicely putting up all sorts of interesting buildings - this seems like a bit of a step back.

It also seems a shame that we're sort of losing the diversity - ok I know the Echo are moving just down the road, but it would have been nice to see a prosperous company use the space.

It's great that the space is being taken in Witham Wharf - but the local rags newspaper's relevance (in print anyway) seems to be slowly eroded, I hope it's not the case.

On a positive note I wanted to post another picture of this. I know it's old news but I love it:

http://www.christopherbarnard.co.uk/lin2.jpg

What a great building - Marks Barfield and what a great addition ...

Can someone get some ground breaking pictures of the new hotel....!

:)

Hardly an update, but here's where we're at for the hotel site as of 28/5. Just a load of fencing and a few holes in the building. (I think it's now gutted).

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8051/img00096200905281230.jpg

I won't be in Lincoln until September again, so it'll be interesting for me to see the progression.

Anyone else going to be tracking things?

i've gone back home. ^^ what's the hotel looking like?

ill take a pic if i ever walk past it with my phone if anything starts to happen :)

These are literally the only bits of information I could find on the new hotel, and they're about 18 months old:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8778/19219pk.jpg

http://www.propertymall.com/press/article/19219

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6968/bwn2.jpg

http://www.lichfieldplanning.co.uk/projects_commercial_bwn.html

So fingers crossed things have progressed nicely since then, while i really like the front, the lack of detailing on the sides loses credibility for me.

It also seems like a bit of a hefty lump. I know you can't ask for elegance, when wanting to accomodate as many people as possible, and as cheaply as possible. But we want something that'll look good in 20 years time, and for me quite a few projects wont if they're done like this. Maybe I'm just not a fan of the red brick architecture as much as the yellow brick York stone I'm used to back home.

Though by reading the copy on the article, they seem to have the best intentions (hmm yeh...), so it may be down to a cheap & antiquated render by now.

why that red brick again :(

yeah i feel that they are perhaps taking the whole warehouse thing a little too far with the constant use of pseudo victorian red brick. i do like the centre vertical section but the back half of it has poor detailing and looks pretty lazy.

There is a building at the corner of Silver Street and the A15; that looks beautiful, however it has become derelict.

I was wondering if there were any plans to restore it in the near future.

I don't know the address or name of the building, but on google earth this is it...

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6973/lnnumber2.jpg

It's the old conservative club, it had started refurbishment - well some essential repairs anyway. A couple of local builders were due to renovate it to become a nightclub, but I think this has fallen by the wayside due to lack of potential buyers. I don't have many details....

There was a video tour on the local newspaper website - but I can't find it.

I used to play in various bands in the basement - they were the days....:)

Hey guys im new here but ive been a fan of the site for a while, ive only just found my way to posting stuff though! ive been at Lincoln University for the last three years studying architecture. This is actuallly the first time ive seen this lincoln thread as well so its really fascinating for me to read some of your posts about the city!

^^ hey matty, i'm also at lincoln studying architecture, just finished my first year.

Looking forward to see your end of year work at the show ;)

hi matty, i'm another local (as well as one of the creators of this site). i'll be visiting the end of year show too by the way. actually you should post some pics of you stuff perhaps?

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8145/lincolnthing.jpg

Here is a better look at the building in a picture I took last night, you can see the boarded up windows.

Such a shame.

Yeah cheers guys, once i get my portifolio stuff printed out ill upload a few pics for ya! i dont know if u guys can help but i wanna try and create a thread with a few pics i took of Boston last summer but i dont know how to upload pictures from my computer when im on the create a thread section, would be grateful for a few pointers! cheers

You're going to have to host the images on an external website and post the image links in the thread you are trying to create.

yeh just stick in the image address inbetween address

ok guys thanks, sounds a bit complex for me haha! Im not to great with computers, so would i be able to use something like facebook as an external host website?

imageshack.us

browse....find the image you want us to see on your computer....double click it....click 'start upload'.

The just click the 'host image to forums' link...or put the 'direct image link' between these....

^^cheers mate

I'd like to see some Boston development stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP1HRHXMqOU

Here's the con club video - but since these proposals - something happened to the developers - I'll try and dig round more to find out......

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/City-landmark-threat-nightclub-plans-fallarticle-433639-details/article.html

ha, a funny special effects video of the lincoln being blown up by meteorites.

not sure what the grey box like building is in the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwR9xJaXrIY

I know there was quite a bit of development planned focused along the riverside throughout the town centre in Boston, I will try and post a link if i can find one. So what are your opinions on some of the new development around Lincoln University such as the LPAC Building and the Engine Shed? also the new extension on Sparkhouse studios.

Fantastic generally - people have got a case when they say the land would have been better given over to residential development. It may have extended the City in a more natural way.

Despite the claptrap, I don't think the University extends the City in the way I'd hoped. Maybe the introduction of the new hotel and offices/business units to the east of the Lincoln will help footfall - but let's face it the Uni is for students - it's a no go for joe public.

A lot more needs to be done, Lincoln has got some terrible man made divides, the over engineered Wigford way and the railway line.....Time will tell if these problems get solved.

Still generally it is impressive for a relative small city - I remember walking over Brayford Way and thinking someone has really pulled their finger out to get this done - it may not to be to everyones taste - but I think it's a superb effort nonetheless. :cheers:

[Note: This post is full of wishful thinking and it's evident I have too much time on my hands :lol:]


Here's a map taken from Google Maps, and I've added a couple of the large scale developements that are in place for Lincoln over the coming years.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4500/lincolnniz.jpg

All these are long term, and have probably been in the works for a good long set of years now, but they're such good opportunities for the city, they need to find a way to finance them. Have I missed any?

It leaves Lincoln with a great opportunity to expand and grow to the south-east of the city.

In this image:

Green - Under Construction/Proposed Developments (Probably missed a few)
Red - Opportunities/Long Overdue Proposals
Blue - My own wishful thinking

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3306/lcnb.jpg

From left-right:

Green - PROP - www.brayfordenterprisepark.co.uk
Green - U/C - Brayford Gardens @ Ruston Way (same section)
Green - PROP - Lincoln Memorial Tank on Tritton Road roundabout

Blue - WISH - Current high risers next to new hotel site, I want them reclad, modernised, and better landscaped (visitors from the A57 see a mess entering Lincoln)
Green - START - New hotel, any updates anyone?
Green - U/C - Sparkhouse Studios 2 (ropewalk/brayford wharf east cross)

Green - PROP - Echo building changing to Uni building with no apparent external work (grumble, grumble), Brayford Wharf East
Blue - WISH - Site next to Echo building - Modern glassy high quality offices please,
Blue - WISH - Building next to Witham Wharf - redevelopment, glassy leisure space to diversify evening time (hand in hand with cinema)

Blue - WISH - Lower High Street pedestrianised, all vehicles via Tentercroft St.
Blue - WISH - Demolish all buildings between Cornhill & St Mary's Street (they're all a bit tatty really - abbey, barclays, whs smith, hotel, kebab shops - not a good view out of the train station, hmv is only nice one), put a city centre park in (just nice grass, think cambridge)!! visitors will see green, beautiful waterstones building and high street altogether just nice.
Blue - WISH - Stonebow centre area, bit crap really, redevelop.

Blue - WISH - Danesgate (above the Spar, clasketgate) flats are horrible, instant demolition.
Green - PROP - Lindongate!
Blue - WISH - do something useful with this carpark, giant imp sculpture/fountain on a landscaped square/piazza.

Red - PROP - Site to link A15 up to Tentercroft Street
Blue - WISH - Broadgate could do with making a bit more appealing, overgrown petrol station? City could expand East with new offerings - leisure, culture!
Red - PROP - Industrial site moving to Teal Park, amazing opportunity for city to offer so much more, city centre park leading to waterside sites e.g. museums, conference or exhibiton centre, offices, swimming pool and waterpark, another cinema (imax?), contemporary bowling, another supermarket?, cafes, arena...

In case you hadn't guessed, I think Lincoln has too much potential than it could ever offer. It's almost like a blank canvas to have a renaissance. I didn't even highlight the University area or the Grandstand.

Lincoln City Council if you're listening, befriend a rich Saudi prince and ask him for £1bn and get Lincoln back on the map. :lol:

Anyone agree with the ideas?

Great work - you've got it one big development opportunity!

Do your red markings indicate off Tentecroft Street - the East West link road?

I would say you could stretch the red area around Siemens further south - down to the old tescos. That's a massive area - but that could be sitting around doing nothing for many years.

The view coming out of the train station should be improved with Lindongate - but there is some bad news on Skyscrapernews, that may have repercussions for the Lincoln development:

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=2158

The city needs this development, but it may not be coming any time soon....

We want some 3d renders next!!! :lol:

Chris

As I said it's all just optimism really, but yeh off Tentercroft street the red attempts to show the east-west link sliproads onto the A15.

Not good news for Modus, ah that's really bad news, fingers crossed they stick with Lindongate.

The east side of the city could be absolutely astonishing, sure it'd lack history, but if it was done cosmetically high-quality, detailed and sympathetically, to enhance any cathedral views. It'd snap up tourists who don't just want to shop.

I doubt I could do any renders for you though, only super-impositions of pre-existing buildings. I could put the gherkin next to the Echo building well enough, how good would that be? :lol:

It's been a month, no updates from anyone? I know it's not the biggest/tallest place for development but how are Sparkhouse Studios / the new hotel / Ruston way's housing going?

Few bits of news:

£4.3m Engineering School for University of Lincoln
http://www.lincoln.ac.uk/news/2009/07/engschool.htm

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/business/30m-engineering-school-university/article-1112144-detail/article.html

http://www.harveynash.com/uk/microsites/lincolnengineering/

Sainsbury's Tritton Road Expansion - Good news for shoppers with the Wragby Road Tesco's doing the same.
http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Supermarket-expansion-create-150-jobs/article-1132454-detail/article.html

Lindongate Doubtful - bugger.
http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Proposals-shopping-complex-hold/article-1136898-detail/article.html

Oddfellow's Hall to become a Hotel, off Broadgate
http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Hall-s-conversion-plans-include-hotel-rooms/article-1136880-detail/article.html

i actually took pics to post, and then never. i keep taking more. i shall post some later!

^^

Please post them - the Electricity Works should be in rubble now....

I was too depressed to write about Lindongate - it's been a development on the cards in Lincoln for so long (in revious incarnations), and obviously unless Modus (or rather their administrators) find a buyer it's never going to happen in it's present incarnation.

Also next to the Oddfellows hall, where they were supposed to be building retirement flats, now they've knocked down the pub - it sounds like it's going to be a 'temporary' carpark. This is just a disaster - brodgate needs plugging up! It's always had a reasonablt strong stong street frontage (at least before the petrol station) ....but we're going backwards ....

Samething happened to the old LSG next to the Grand Hotel it must have been a temporary car park for 25 years now!

Good news about the other developments though....:)

what's the electricity works? i got a pic of the hotel site on the brayford last week, they seem to be doing something there! the site was actually occupied on a saturday. here's the thing though - the council has decided its a priority that lincoln gets more hotel rooms. although the holiday inn express (is that it's name) goes some of the way towards plugging the gap the lack of hotel rooms in 2006 was about 250.

oh and here's the wonder that is shuttleworth house on saturday

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/449ShuttleworthHouse_pic4.jpg

actually it's ironic. the founder of this forum lives in lincoln and has no idea what the projects in his home city are called.

A nice tranquil scene (genuine comment) I would imagine the vast majority of people would say that the tower block ruins the scene. To me the tower block enhances the scene.

Very nice greens in that pic....

The old electricity works is coming down for the new hotel.....Pics please...


Also Lincoln is getting it's direct rail link with the capital, despite East Midlands Trains losing their franchise - which is good news....

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Direct-London-rail-link-year/article-1171079-detail/article.html

i see now we are going to have the rail link BY 2011 not BY 2010. only a year late so far!

ahhh yes so it is the electricity works.

anyway here's hayes wharf -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4343HayesWharf_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4343HayesWharf_pic2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4343HayesWharf_pic3.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4343HayesWharf_pic4.jpg

lincoln cathedral and stuff from the footbridge next to the bus station

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/384LincolnCathedral_pic9.jpg

and a close up

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/384LincolnCathedral_pic10.jpg

witham wharf

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic1.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4725WithamWharf_pic2.jpg

The new developments in Lincoln are first class !

Pretty ordinary provincial developments, looking better than average with the waterside setting, the sunshine, and your skills as a photographer.

I love the fact that In your "Nottingham Pics" thread, Gothic, you restrict yourself to taking loads of photos of cruddy 60s highrises (to prove Nottingham is a ghastly shithole), because "this is a skyscraper site". Yet in the Lincoln thread you're posting pictures of new build eight/nine storey apartment blocks!:)

I love the fact that In your "Nottingham Pics" thread, Gothic, you restrict yourself to taking loads of photos of cruddy 60s highrises (to prove Nottingham is a ghastly shithole), because "this is a skyscraper site". Yet in the Lincoln thread you're posting pictures of new build eight/nine storey apartment blocks!

that'll be because we don't have lots of 60s cruddy highrises except the one i posted earlier on this page (!) so instead i'm taking pictures of the tallest buildings in the place which in lincoln are ten floors. witham wharf for example is a conversion of the tallest office buildings in lincoln.... so perhaps a little less ignorance? the area in and around witham wharf IS lincoln's highrise area, just like maid marian way is in nottingham.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=26336198&postcount=92

So "skyscrapers" are entirely dependent on context? (Let's face it, being the tallest office block in Lincoln is a bit like being the slimmest kid at Fat Camp.)

of course they are entirely dependent on context. it's a bit hard for a 10 building to scrape the sky if it's surrounded by 30 floor buildings. likewise i note someone mocked me for photographing nottingham's skyscrapers by saying they weren't, but in the context of nottingham they are.

So a two-storey house in a field of bungalows is a skyscraper??:)

Most cities define the term empirically; even a building of 80 meters (262 feet) may be considered a skyscraper if it protrudes above its built environment and changes the overall skyline.

does it scrape the sky? does it change the skyline at all? these are ten story buildings next to two and three storey buildings in general. hayes wharf for example is what, three or four times as tall as anything around it? had their been nice ten storey buildings on maid marian way i would have photographed them too, but there aren't. i do however seem to remember photographing the council house there and canal street u/c.

they are here -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/maps.php?dataType=1&status=Complete&city=nottingham&lat=52.95370571928492&lng=-1.1512041091918945&zoom=15

I don't think you understand the context of Nottingham, so your Nottingham Pics post seriously mis-sells the city.

Nottingham (like Lincoln) has a hilly topography, so the tallest buildings are not necessarily the most prominent in the city, and the skyline is "scraped" as much by historic buildings on prominent outcrops, as by shoddy 60s offices.

When I come into Nottingham, the prominent skyline is topped by these buildings, looming as high as any 60s tower:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3208/2760578355_3afc7ff702.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2788457590_74f8a7e8ff.jpg

But even if you concentrate on ten storey buildings, isn't this more interesting than what you chose?:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1169/1006787036_ddf5ac5790.jpg?v=0

Or this?:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2568241192_f1c2e2e59a.jpg?v=0

And if you are interested in juxtapositions between smaller and larger buildings, what about this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2567411023_23a0106443.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/2788124712_516b467372.jpg

no, you're right i don't understand the context of nottingham(!)

it's not about juxtapositions except that a skyscraper is a skyscraper because its a taller building next to a shorter one. talk about missing the point. i'm not trying to mis-sell the city or sell it, i am just interested in tall buildings in a particular town or city. that'll be why i photographed such beauties as crown house, humberstone gate and epic house in leicester. you really don't seem to understand all this at all.

The point is, Nottingham is full of shit high rises, Lincoln, although not as well blessed with high rises, has more pleasant tall buildings (in its context) than Nottingham does.

Nottingham is not full of shit high rises. Nottingham has only a few shit high rises, concentrated in one shit area of town, but mostly its skyline is not dominated by 60s towers at all, but by historical buildings sitting on high points in the city.

Woah, the peace has well and truly been broken on this thread. Lincoln's just a little city with a few mid-rises that we're just following, and any new development on the horizon. We're not comparing the buildings to Nottingham, nor I think Gothic Form is trying to put people off Notts.

^^ tom how did you do on your results? :) - i went to the exhibition, great stuff! gives me some great ideas and inspiration! was your work in the gallery or other?

anyone got any recent images of the building being built adjacent to the library. only got this crappy image when i was up last.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/IMG_7618.jpg

^^ tom how did you do on your results? :) - i went to the exhibition, great stuff! gives me some great ideas and inspiration! was your work in the gallery or other?I'll be in Lincoln for an hour on Thursday - I'll only have my phone but I'll try get some photos providing the weather holds out.

My results? Uni results wise I did quite well, don't think I know anything about the exhibition you're talking about though (am not an architecture student). :)

This thread has got a bit aggresive since i last visited!! Some nice pics of Lincoln though Gothic form! the building opposite the library is an extension to Sparkhouse Studios and the last time i was in Lincoln it looked very near to completion :)

Well I passed through Lincoln the other day and it was tipping it down with rain so didn't get out to have a look at how a couple of things are doing.

I couldn't see any activity at all apart from the razed building on Brayford Wharf. From what I recall Sparkhouse Studios had a lot of its scaffolding coming down but still a hefty amount of builders on site.

OMG Binge I think you need to replace the "B" with a "Wh". Jesus give it a rest!

Thank you for your informative and valuable comment.

The internet is serious business.

finally... some lincoln news -

Press Release
Page 1 of 2
13 November 2009
COUNCIL APPROVES SAINSBURY'S LINCOLN EXTENSION PLANS

The Harvest Partnership, a joint venture between Sainsbury's and Land Securities, is
delighted to announce that City of Lincoln Council has resolved to approve plans to extend
and improve the popular Tritton Road foodstore in Lincoln, subject to approval by the
Government Office for the East Midlands.

The planning committee voted unanimously in favour of the proposed extension, which will
include:
·
Extending the existing store sales area
·
Enhancing and increasing the available product ranges
·
Improving the store layout
·
Providing a new store entrance lobby
·
Integrating the car parks for all Sainsbury's and Lindis Retail Park customers
·
Improving access and traffic flow around the car park
·
Improving pedestrian links
·
Improving the highway infrastructure at Doddington Road and Tritton Road,

The development will create up to 150 new full and part-time employment opportunities. The
applicants have agreed to enter into a Local Labour Agreement that will seek to ensure that
the majority of new jobs are filled by local people.

The Harvest Partnership has undertaken extensive community consultation, including a public
consultation on the plans in July 2009. The results of the consultation showed a high level of
support for the proposals, with 85% of respondents fully in favour of the store improvements.

Ross Castle, Sainsbury's Portfolio Development Manager, comments: `We are delighted to
have received resolution to grant planning permission to extend and improve our Lincoln store.
The extension will ensure a greater shopping experience for our customers, as well all visitors
to the retail park, whilst also creating new jobs for local people.'

Land Securities Project Manager, Mark Bird added: `I would like to take this opportunity to
thank local residents for their feedback and support for the proposals. We will now look to
finalise any legal requirements and move towards a possible date when work can begin.'

gothic, have you seen that house near to completion up the hill off steep hill? - odd looking thing, looks like an open out fan

Plenty of things going on at the moment in Lincoln, just nothing interesting:


Sparkhouse 2 is in the finishing stages with landscaping at the library area.

The University gym is being extended, piling started the other day.

Phase 1 of the affordable housing on Ruston Way (Next to Tritton Road roundabout) has pretty much completed.


And that weird house, it's got to be something off Grand Designs surely?

^^ they are taking the michael with that landscaping! hard to concentrate in the library ;)

^^ they are taking the michael with that landscaping! hard to concentrate in the library ;)It's coming along now with some nice paving, now the sooner the uni does something with the big black block of tarmac in between the library and the engine shed the better.

I'm still really interested in the Western Growth Corridor, there are some really insightful design statements here: http://www.lincolnwgc.info/template_01.asp?PageID=123 Shame there has been no news about it for so long.

This is worrying: http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Crumbling-city-buildings-lost-forever/article-1553675-detail/article.html

the con club would be fantastic if someone could buy it and turn it into apartments. we desperately need that sort of thing in lincoln... sadly that'll never happen in this economic environment.

i got some pics of lincoln today havent got a clue how to upload them on here though

we have a very nice and helpful guide here -

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=339254

What is that large structure going up down Brayford Way, is it Uni Flats or an Office block of some kind?

good question. i saw it from steep hill yesterday and went "what's that?" didn't have my camera with it but you can see it quite clearly. i think it might be a hotel i remember reading about agessss ago.

I remember talk from Manorcrest regarding a potential Hotel development on Brayford Wharf itself, not sure if this is a live project anymore.

ha funny story to tell.

we had a lecture last week with the head of architecture saying a few words at the start. Apparently a new art design building could possibly be built next door to the architecture building which you all might know already. But the story is that we had an audit at the start of the academic year, about how much we use our studios aswell as the whole uni - the outcome was, we were at the bottom of the list, and that we don't use studio alot so whats the point. So people in charge are curious to whether it be wiser to cram all the art students in the architecture building and not bother having a new art design building. I know which one I would rather have.

What is that large structure going up down Brayford Way, is it Uni Flats or an Office block of some kind?If you mean the one next to the Pavilions on Ruston Way (a bit further in from the Holiday Inn Express, BT and McDonalds) then it's basically council housing. It's called Brayford Gardens and its a part-buy scheme, but from what I see when I walk past it's a bit naff and chavvy.

There were people onsite next to the Holiday Inn Express yesterday, in the http://www.brayfordenterprisepark.co.uk site, hopefully that's going ahead.

It's coming along now with some nice paving, now the sooner the uni does something with the big black block of tarmac in between the library and the engine shed the better.

I noticed the same terrible black tarmac there when I was last in Lincoln I thought it was a terrible shame. Is it on the cards to replace it then, it really is a weak link and looked temporary?
.............

Some time ago I emailed Lincoln's planning department to enquire as to the status of Lindongate, the head of planning replied that as far as he was concerned it was still going ahead. Don't know if anybody elese has heard differently, with similar projects being resurrected eleswhere (Derby for instance) it seems a shame that we're missing out.

Any photos of the Brayford Hotel development?

I thought the Modus Group developers of the Lindongate project had gone into administration early last year?

Also, any news on the proposed Broadgate Hotel, where the old O'rourke put resided.

I noticed the same terrible black tarmac there when I was last in Lincoln I thought it was a terrible shame. Is it on the cards to replace it then, it really is a weak link and looked temporary?
.............

Any photos of the Brayford Hotel development?
Yep same black lump of tarmac is still there - no idea if there are any plans to pave as there is a possibility of an extension to the library in the coming few years which would disrupt it.

The Brayford Hotel development = No activity this year.
Edge West, Ruston Way and Brayford Enterprise Park = No activity.

The Bailgate is being repaved with York Stone, it's looking alright so far.

The University is extending the sports centre at the moment (opens Sept 2010), Brayford Gardens (council housing) is still in development next to the Holiday Inn Express, there are 2 blocks up now and potentially another 2 rising.

No other news though (e.g. Broadgate car park site / east-west tentercroft street link etc.).

The Brayford Hotel finalised permission and work to begin within 6 weeks, according to the developer Manorcrest and it will be a Hilton Hotel.

Also, I believe the consultation for the east-west link will be due later this year.

a lot of ground work activity going on outside between the lpac and arch building.

That'll be the work for the new Uni masterplan that Allies and Morrison won to create the Engineering building, Artbox, a social space and further landscaping: http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/University-Lincoln-reveals-master-plan-development/article-1895102-detail/article.html & http://visit.lincoln.ac.uk/C13/C6/DesignCompetition

There's a tiny render on the www.alliesandmorrison.co.uk website, under 'news' at the top right:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6845/picture1one.png

I can't find the plans though, boo. Anyone know any more about it?

^^unfortunatly showing a render of a building where the LPAC is.

^^unfortunatly showing a render of a building where the LPAC is.Nope, not quite. The LPAC is quite a bit further back from that.

It looks to show the Engineering hub facing the pond, with no Harrison House (modular block) next to the Architecture, and then another (presumably blanked out Artbox) that is going to be on the temporary gravel car park, with another flyover bridge.

I'm leaving Lincoln in a couple of months, but will have to revisit the city in ~3 years maybe to see how this turns out. Heh.

well its a very small building then :P

anyway, they are having a lecture at the arch building, so i might go and hopefully get them to say more on their aspirations

well its a very small building then :P

anyway, they are having a lecture at the arch building, so i might go and hopefully get them to say more on their aspirationsOoh what lecture is that then, an engineering one or an estates lecture?

What do you think to the innards of the B&L Echo building: http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/03/bold-decor-for-business-and-law/ ?

Lincoln is on Google maps now - obviously behind though as soon it is photographed...

Looking at those Uni renders does it mean that a good portion of the remaining land will remain landscaped?

You leaving for good then Tom...shame...Enjoyed your updates...

Here's what was originally planed for the site, Im not sure how different the current building is.

http://admin.rickmather.com/library/images/image200.png
http://admin.rickmather.com/library/images/image199.jpg
http://admin.rickmather.com/library/images/image233.jpg
http://admin.rickmather.com/library/images/image197.jpg
http://admin.rickmather.com/library/images/image196.jpg
http://www.rickmather.com

We'll have to see whether Allies & Morrison have followed Rick Mather's design on, I think those renders are almost defunct now though.

From what I can gather the University will retain a large central grassed area (though landscaped to allow access to the carpark/other side of the pond etc), and will focus its development in the South-East Area of the campus.

Not sure when I'll come back to Lincoln after May really.

Ooh what lecture is that then, an engineering one or an estates lecture?

What do you think to the innards of the B&L Echo building: http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/03/bold-decor-for-business-and-law/ ?

it's a lincon lecture, run by the university, bringing architecture practices from over the uk to do lectures on their designs etc.

unfortunatly the guy doing the lecture for a&m knew nothing, but his partner 'bob' is behind the project and knew more. so i asked if they could come back again to do another lecture, focusing on the campus. hopefully they will do.

The broadgate carpark site is in the news again today, for a Premier Inn before 2012

Planning App No. 2009/0633/F, Erection of a 5 storey building to accommodate 131 bedroom hotel and three ground floor retail units:

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/news/Hotel-plan-eyesore-city-site/article-1957838-detail/article.html


And good news for the Think Tank off Ruston Way, another award in the frame:

http://www.lincoln.gov.uk/news_det.asp?art_id=14200&sec_id=3478

can't see any good design for a premier inn.

i've been in the think tank, everything is concrete - love it!

prep work for the engineering building is happens on campus.

I would really like to see abit more hive of activity around the Marina area, so much untapped potential there - and then connected to the City Centre pedestrian wise.

Apologies for adding more overly sized photos to this page of the thread, but I thought they were worth it. At the weekend I took the 338 stepped tour to the top of the main tower of Lincoln Cathedral. The views were amazing! (That's the highest I've been in a building thus far unless the London Eye's taller, not been up any 'scrapers yet)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3205/111wij.jpg

Looking South (thought this view was the most interesting in terms of activity and development.)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/151/222nc.jpg

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6665/333os.jpg

I'd recommend it to every Lincoln visitor.

As for building news, there's been no activity at the hotel site (Brayford Wharf North) yet and the first office building on Edge West, Ruston Way is in its infancy. The Uni has applied for the Engineering School plans, but no final design released as far as I know.

how often do they do tours up to the top of the cathedral? is it a frequent event or one they do only every so often?

Oh and great photos!

Tom, them photo's look amazing. Thanks.

As for the engineering unit, I believe groundwork has already started.

Great photos...

Are they preparing the ground on Broadgate in the second photo - I know it's supposed to be the site for a hotel...?

how often do they do tours up to the top of the cathedral? is it a frequent event or one they do only every so often?

Oh and great photos!

I think it's by appointment only, if you ring up you can book a trip up to the top I think.

And Tom, I'm sorry to say the Cathedral is quite a bit shorter than the London eye.

I used to live on the St. Giles estate :guns1: which during a recent visit didn't look too bad. Maybe my family remember it as being worse than it was.

Yeh I know the London Eye is much, much taller but incorporating Steep Hill into the height (for a Southward view) made it seem almost as high, cheating I know, but it classes. :lol:

To go on a tower tour, this is the info from the cathedral website:

Tower Tours
Restrictions apply as with roof tours. These tours only take place between April and October on Saturdays and Bank Holiday Mondays.

April and October: 1.30 pm, 3.00 pm
May to September: 12.15pm, 1.30pm and 3.00 pm

Like all Cathedral tours, these tours are subject to change so please call before you visit to confirm the times. 01522 561600.

Prebooking for upper level tours may only be done in person at the Entry Desk.

Chrissyb, the Broadgate site has been the same for a while now unfortunately. Not really much activity (in terms of development) around at the moment, just bad news as I'm sure you've read on the Echo website.

Looks like the ground has been prepared from a distance! Still some more positive reports coming out of the city regarding development, lets hope despite the latest round of political uncertainty things get moving again...

Looks like Lincoln contains two Stirling prize winners this year

* Museum Court, Jonathan Hendry
* Think Tank, Marks Barfield Architects

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/riba-2010-regional-award-winners-announced/5000153.article#

For a look at Think Tank -
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=11257

I think the other one is a residential build

As already pointed out by Binge, they are not Stirling Prize winners at all, but simply stand a chance of now being nominated to win one :)

Sorry, a mistype, I meant RIBA regional award winners. I obviously got over excited.

* Museum Court, Jonathan Hendry

http://www.jonathanhendryarchitects.com/P3i4.html

Looks very nice. Urban, modern yet modest and tasteful.

Good news for the Think Tank again.

I've got to say, in the medium-long term, what interests me the most is what's going to happen between Ruston Way and Beevor Street (behind the big B&Q and near the Think Tank). I've lived in the Pavilions (the student block) on this photo, and its just so close to a forgotten side of Lincoln where there's all the history with Bucyrus and the tank building etc. less than 1 mile from the high street.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/843/llllft.jpg

Hopefully, this'll see some regeneration in time.

Some news on the Brayford Wharf North hotel: Hilton to bring four-star quality to Lincoln (http://www.lincoln.gov.uk/news_det.asp?art_id=14344&sec_id=3478)

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8707/hotel504.jpg

a render of the new uni engineering building has been put up on the site hoardings - get a photo of it tommorrow.

cool, i'll look forward to seeing it!

Strange they've not been released any renders anywhere...?

sorry for the lateness :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4678040369_23ed83e8fc_b.jpg

Cool, thanks for doing that... if it's just the sandy coloured building what's to it's left, with the stairs etc?

This picture does remind though how the overall estate hasn't really delivered a link between 'town and gown' as promised. The estate isn't really a natural extension to the city centre, despite it's proximity - it's still very self contained.

I guess the only way this might have happened if they're had been more of a mix use feel to the site - more residential, and if Wigford way had been destroyed.

We still can't build natural extensions to our city centres in the UK - everything is the city centre and then we have post war add ons - retail parks etc.

I don't perhaps in Lincoln's case I'm wrong...? Perhaps people are happily breezing through the estate as we speak :-)

thanks for the pic, is that person on the far left walking on water?

Thanks for the photo of the hoarding. The hub looks like a nice addition to the campus but it's beginning to become a bit of a shame at how 'boxey' the majority of the campus is, there is a real lack of a modern-ornate quality, or even just natural curves to the place.

Here's to hoping that this conservative design comes out looking good though. Nothing like the post from before though:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6845/picture1one.png

The stairs and building to the left will be another flyover bridge and the 'arts box' (how ironic), but they've not been announced properly yet.

anyone else been watching the tudors. part of series 4 is set in lincoln... pity about the inaccuracies. my favourite one is the shot of the bishops palace in lincoln which has been relocated to canwick hill and has the modern cathedral (it had spires back then) behind it... and also the bishops palace.

^^I know, I saw it. A travesty especially because they used WELLS for the nave, I ask you!

Anyhow, Hi all! I'm another Lincolnian you can add to our swelling ranks. Constantly disappointed at the lack of advantage our beloved local authority takes of our city's beauty. Never before has so much potential for an economic goldmine been so cravenly squandered.

Still, nice to see everyone! :) (I've been lurking for a couple of years now, time to join)

hey there J Nash, welcome!

hey there J Nash, welcome!

Why, hello Ben-Bob junior! :cheers:

Anyway, here's a post a thread I made about Lincoln's economy:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=59509717#post59509717

It's something that troubles me deeply. I fear we will get no proper projects until someone works out what they want the city to be. (see thread)