again for consistancy

http://ballymore-snowhill.remotemanager.co.uk/app/d90aa4928005f79ac3d15f7845172eda/live


Some nice webcam.

These will need to go in here now then. New one due when I'm next in town.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoJuly07.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoJune07.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/StGeorges07046.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoramaApr.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/DSC00128.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/DSC00092-1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000765.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000771.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/P1000759.jpg

You can now see the slanting steelwork facing the station! Thanks for the pics Stevie!

Indeed, that's going to be quite some overhang by the time this is topped out :D

Very nice

Thanks for the pics Stephen.

Bit cloudy at this point of the day
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/Erebus555/Birmingham%202007/DSC_0014.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/Erebus555/Birmingham%202007/DSC_0020.jpg

Progress is coming along.

Bump.

This can't languish on page 2!

Quite right Bio!

Sinking again down the threads.

Here is a very recent picture - of five minutes ago from the webcam.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/SH19Sept07.jpg

Wow, they're really cracking on there. The atrium is very visible.

Edit: These threads will be much easier to track when the new construction forum goes in.

Thanks Feltip!

That car park really looks shite!

Well, if the developers are bothered by it, all they have to do is ask Martin G for his designs for the revamped Snow Hill Station.

One from the Images of Birmingham picture library

http://www.**************************/php-cgi/gallery2/d/16482-2/21CH0807+003.jpg

I've only just noticed that there is 2 cranes on the site, when did the second one go up? (must have been some time ago I guess). :nuts:

Ages ago fella.

I'm struck by the huge scale of this development. The sheer size and ambition. This is the smallest part of the entire project and it's huge.

Onwards and upwards!

Construction costs are an estimated £250m :eek:

The MSCP seems to be being resurfaced :yes:

Construction costs are an estimated £250m :eek:

The MSCP seems to be being resurfaced :yes:

Surely that's bad news? Suggests it's not going anywhere?

I never realistically though that it would be going anywhere. Not for some years anyway...

well no it wont be, especially with the propsed at wall going up... which might i add that none of the ppl from here have made effort to look at!

Is there an image of the image in planning document or elsewhere?

Can I ask what MSCP is and Woody, what's an 'at wall'????

Confused

Multi Storey Car Park and Art wall.

Paving and surfacing at St Chad's Square seems to be moving on apace.

Cheers Telfordboy

at wall = art wall and mscp = multi storey car park!

It's got one use the MSCP it's great for taking pictures of the Snow Hill development.

I went to Snow Hill the other day and took my first look at this building it looks massive so when the 2 main towers go up it's going to look amazing. I think this is the most exciting project we've had in years.

well no it wont be, especially with the propsed at wall going up... which might i add that none of the ppl from here have made effort to look at!

I wouldn't know where to look!

I know it's going in, but how high will it be?

Surely not high enough to mask this monstrosity much beyond 1st storey level!

Some phase 1 piccies from today...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/22907012.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/22907011.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/22907007.jpg
Metro Viaduct is coming along nicely. You can clearly see where the trams will be running.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/22907005.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/22907003.jpg
Some views from the bottom of Constitution Hill

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoSep07.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoJuly07.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoJune07.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/StGeorges07046.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/SnowHillPanoramaApr.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/DSC00128.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/misterFlibble1976/DSC00092-1.jpg


This'll be the last one of these shots I'll be doing now. As you can see, there's not much point going forward. The building is so big now that it won't all fit in the image! :lol:

Wahey, thanks guys! I think I'm starting to get a better idea of how it's all going to look when finished now, I still don't think I fully comprend how big the 2 office blocks are going to be next to each other.

Not changed a bit

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/Scans032.jpg

yeah these look massive and really impose themselves on the area. They will really enclose the area and make it feel more like you are in the heart of the city centre

and these are the smallest of the buildings!!!!!:banana:

Thanks for the photos Blahblah.Yes ,the Metro viaduct is really taking shape now.This block is starting to fly up .....it's getting very dense around that area.

It really pushes the city centre out a good 150m more.

Not changed a bit

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/robinsonworld/Birmingham/Scans032.jpg

Love the sporty side-car in the foreground!!:lol:

And exactly 6 months after that photo was taken yours truly was born.....the old git!

Here a pic I took with my phone coming from the bank.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/Image017.jpg

My mum and dad got married on this same date and year!!
Sadly no longer married...hohum

http://i22.tinypic.com/zmipe0.jpg

That overhang is going to be stunning when the next lot of steel goes on, let alone the top stuff!

Jesus, this thing is shooting up! :happy:

And exactly 6 months after that photo was taken yours truly was born.....the old git!

My initials are on the van's number plate!:lol: :)

It was taken the day before my -5 birthday!

This keeps sinking down the threads but its growing at a pace.

Thanks to JayPeeDee for this pic from website.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/jamespdavey/liverystcarpark.jpg

Hey, a week ago you could see the traffic on the junction behind Snowhill. Now its completely obscured...

I was up here about half an hour ago and It is growing at a rapid pace.

Yep - it seems to have grown every time I see it. Certainly faster than an all concrete build.

http://i24.tinypic.com/atncyr.jpg

Can't be long before they start cladding the lower levels of this can it?

I think a lot more work needs to be done with the sub-levels before they start that. The whole metro section needs to be completed.

Note that the concrete has been laid on the lower couple of floors.

Can't be long before they start cladding the lower levels of this can it?

I'd give it a month or 2 - once they have got a decent amount of floors concreted, glazing tends to go on then.

Thing is - this will fly up, then the glazing will go on, and then seem to stop (like Colmore Plaza) as they do the internal fit-out.

Good thing we will have Building 3 and soon Building 2 to watch :)

I went down to Snowhill to have a look at this for myself, and it is pretty amazing standing there watching everthing going on, as has been said 2 floors have had concrete laid, and they were doing floor 3 today.

They were also still concreting the basement floor, got quite a lot of that to do, but the metro viaducty thing is going great guns.

Piling was going on in the towers site, lots of iron rods like a fence around the site of the towers, wonder if they are showing where the site extends too, including the car parks?

It was interesting, will have to pop down again soon.

Here's a pic from Ballymore website showing interior mockup with the sloping window.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/snhillinterior.jpg

Also, most recent webcam shot from webcam:
http://ballymore-snowhill.remotemanager.co.uk/app/d90aa4928005f79ac3d15f7845172eda/live

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/SH1oct3.jpg

Some pics from today:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07269.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07261.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07260.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07259.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07258.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07255.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07254.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07251.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07249.jpg


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07219.jpg

Some more:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07246.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07245.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07244.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07243.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07242.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07241.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07239.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07237.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07229.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07228.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07227.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07226.jpg

Great set of photos feltip

^^ Awesome pictiures there feltip! Some great angles we've never seen before. These pics show how massive the underground parking is gonna be. :nuts:

Thanks for the update feltip :)

cheers :)

was in good mood from an interview so met up with friend and had my camera so thought I'd get an update.

STUNNING!!! :applause:


http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07239.jpg

Very informative photos Feltip....excellent work!

The photo below shows what a tight squeeze it will be for the Metro and also highlights its cavernous entry into the city centre due to the building's overhang ;almost like a tunnel.

I also notice that the backside of the building in the photo will have to be 'polished' in some way because it's going to let the whole area down.Covered in glass could be nice.What do other forumers think?:)




http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/DSC07269.jpg

Or some funky neon advertising could look good if done well!

Is the Metro going to go under a piazza then and emerge out onto Colmore Circus? I can't quite work out how the levels will work on this.

I don't think it's going under anything apart from using the Five Ways underpass.According to the drawings the viaduct will take it to Snow Hill street level then onto Bull Street.

If done well ,neon could look very good there.Remember that we are due an art wall along that section so I imagine they have given thought to that bare wall too.:)

I'm glad someone else has said that. I can't get my head round the level of the metro either.

I think what you can see there is just an incomplete part of the works. The columns look to be stilts and the metro deck will be formed on top of that. The tram then presumably runs past the steps and round :)

I did not no a new Metro was being built, and what wall are you talking about that should have Neon lights.

It's the extension of the Metro through the City and up to 5 ways.......in theory!

The wall we mean is the big blue/purple thing that is part of 1 Colmore Row!

Luckily that is owned by Ballymore so we might actually see them propose a little something to tidy it up! :happy:

Oh ok thanks, I would also like to see that happen. But what are the chances of it happening.

Surely that wall just needs planning permission to be used as advertising space. That would tidy it up no end.

Bump
Today at: 4.12pm

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/sh1oct12.jpg

Shouldn't be too long before they have to adjust the camera angle :D

I know, I have never seen a building grow this fast. There has to be a reason for it.

Nargles ;)

:rofl:

There has to be a reason for it.
Not Masshouse.


Good enough reason for me.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1000990.jpg

Thanks UV! This is really taking shape now :) and the building really is going to be pretty much on top of the metro when finished, innit?

Is the Metro going to run there?

I mean, without the rest of the Metro extention?

I don't think they're going to move the trams out of Snow Hill Station until the extension is actually built, no.

There are only two or three levels of steel left before they reach full height.

theres 3 storeys left

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Today at: 4.12pm

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/sh1oct12.jpg

Popped past on the way home tonight, it's very imposing. Not a big fan of the stripey car park tho....

^^ It's like sticking a clear plaster on a wart, that car park paint!

Could be a helipad for the Baggies.

Should be using this thread for phase 1 stuff, no?

New photos from my walk around today

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007117.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007113.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007111.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007109.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007108.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007107.jpg

There's a canyon-like feel along Snowhill developing. Reminds me of downtown Sydney

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/28102007116.jpg

a very nice city, i know what you mean!

Thanks for the pics. I agree with you on canyon-feel comment. It just needs Lloyd House to be tarted up externally and it'll look awesome.

No Lloyd house needs demolishing and replacing. lol.

I like it actually. It's a good building, still useful and there is no need to demolish it. A good clean and an external refurb would set it up just fine! :)

Is it owned by West Midlands Police? If so, I'd say an external tarting up would be low on their agenda - how would they justify spending the money? I'd bet the press and general public opinion would be set against it.

Is it owned by West Midlands Police? If so, I'd say an external tarting up would be low on their agenda - how would they justify spending the money? I'd bet the press and general public opinion would be set against it.

It's not owned by West Midlands Police, but they use it as offices. I can't remember who owns it. It has recently had an internal refurb and some bits have been added to the outside (such as the new modern entrance from Colmore Circus) but I don't think an external refurbishment has been mooted yet.

Unrelated and off topic but I think the Centro House needs to be sorted out moreso than Lloyds house even if it's lingering on the outskirts of the city centre. While on the Great Charles Street Bridge you really do wonder what a depressing sight it is with St Chads so nearby, it destroys the view.

Webcam update:

http://ballymore-snowhill.remotemanager.co.uk/image/595/-/archive/47c24c0c121b92599a0a0c0973d84ebb/d90aa4928005f79ac3d15f7845172eda/2007/10/1193677542.6086-756cf364

Blimey, this bugger's grown since last time I was atop Snow Hill Station!

Last time: 10th August 2007
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Bham1008200772.jpg

Around midday today!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Construction%204/Birmingham2910200732.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Construction%204/Birmingham2910200730.jpg

As already mentioned, there's a definite "canyon" feel in this area now - loads of shadows created by the closeness of the buildings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Construction%204/Birmingham2910200733.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Construction%204/Birmingham2910200734.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Robdann/Construction%204/Birmingham2910200727.jpg

So by the time the Snow hill Scheme completed along with Colmore Phase 2, this will be B'ham's version of 'The City'. Thanks again for the photos Smiley, you're legend!

We're going to have to work out the best vantage point for getting the whole of this area in a shot, including Snow Hill, Natwest, and Peat House. Good times!

When all this is finished this area is going to be like a mini version of manhatten. Hopefully in the near future Snowhill will be redeveloped and have about ten storeys of office space added on top of the station, if that happened it would be madness. Anyway nice pics.

We're going to have to work out the best vantage point for getting the whole of this area in a shot, including Snow Hill, Natwest, and Peat House. Good times!

Might need a helicopter...:)

I'm thinking the skybar atop V Building may have some pretty spectacular views.

A few pics from today

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/snowreflect.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/snowqueensway.jpg

and St Chads Square moving along nicely

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/stchad1.jpg

love the 2nd picture, shows how dense already!

thanks feltip

It's when you look at the double decker bus and it looks small against the site and this is the shortest :banana:

and St Chads Square moving along nicely

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/stchad1.jpg

Trees! Plant trees!

:no:

NEVER plant trees next to buildings - they subside!

There are trees planned for the other parts of the green space though AFAIK :)

:lol:

Just went for a walk around here and guess what? A lorry-load of trees have just arrived!

:) Should finally get a space you might actually want to spend some time in in this area.

should b nice when its all finished....

:lol:

Just went for a walk around here and guess what? A lorry-load of trees have just arrived!

Best to plant them while they are still fresh from the factory.

Anyone would think they grew on.... er, i'll get my coat.

;)

:) Should finally get a space you might actually want to spend some time in in this area.

Actually and ironically, there was more grass and greenery on the island they have removed.

Really? Still, that didn't make it a place that was nice to be.

You could only reach it through running the gauntlet of multiple smelly subways. It could have been quite nice if it wasn't in the middle of a god-awful traffic island. Same goes - still goes - for Holloway Circus. It's still shite, despite the work that's gone into it.

i went through here on the bus today - i havent been there since construction started - i was amazed at the height and density this creates! and it is the smallest of all the buildings being built!

You could only reach it through running the gauntlet of multiple smelly subways. It could have been quite nice if it wasn't in the middle of a god-awful traffic island. Same goes - still goes - for Holloway Circus. It's still shite, despite the work that's gone into it.

Exactly MK!

There was just no reason to go there unless you wanted your wedding photos in the middle of a roundabout!

This new area will be great for people using ST Chads Catherdral, and once the towers are up, it'll be great for the views in the other direction too!

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1010097.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g151/iceman14141414/P1010098.jpg

Nice angle UV.We get Peat House and BH in there too.

I've a quick question for anyone here who knows about construction...

When they have poured the concrete for the lower floors and have moved onto do the steelwork and then the concrete for the floors above then what are they generally doing on the lower floors if anything? Or is it a matter of finishing most of the work on the upper floors before starting the glazing etc.

Generally in Construction you want to bring the following trades on as quickly as possible - ie get the floors finished, start to build the outside skin on the lower levels and then have them chase each other. Once you've got the skin om lower floors, you can start to fit them out.

However, with wet concrete being poured, the site management may want to get that bit out of the way first - firstly so that the concrete has cured on the lower floors, and secondly to reduce the risk of damage to the finishes.

Concrete takes a long time to fully cure. Whilst you can usually strike your shutters within 24+ hours, it takes another 28 days to reach "cube-strength" - that meaning the builders laboratory will crush a cube after 28 days to see if the concrete has achieved the right strength. It will still cure for a long time after this.

A would think they would want to be assured of the concretes strength before really progressing too far.

Ok so what you are saying is that there should be a natural pause after pouring the concrete. Then a month or 2 later they should start putting the glazing on. So we should be seeing that starting on the lower levels soon then.

Well today on the second floor there was a bloke spraying all the metal work with paint, and on the first floor, walls are being built, loads of stuff going on.

Also, when you fix glazing on to the outside of buildings like this, the floors need to be as deflected as possible, so the concrete ideally should be poured several floors above where you are glazing - this ensures the steelwork has deflected under the weight of the concrete and also that the steelwork has settled generally.

They should be ready to glaze about now as there is concrere up to the 5th floor or so.

In the meantime, they will be building blockwork, fire-protecting steel, installing M&E framing etc. Once the building is watertight (which will take a while on this as it is so large) they can get on with the decorative stuff :)

Cheers for all that info guys.

Really getting excited about this whole development now. Should be topped out by Christmas i reckon with the glazing having started by them too.

The glass is going on the side facing Lloyd House! :banana:

Wooo! Really great how they're getting on with this, no messing about. Perhaps they have a tennant that they're rushing to get it ready for.

KPMG :)

Duh! Forgot about that. Hard to keep in mind what's being built for who, but it's good to see some more speculative builds being proposed elsewhere I suppose.

glass looks very nice :)

Anyone got a piccy of the new glazing

I took some photos today with my mobile, so they are not the best photos.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7756/0911071522wy6.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6007/0911071523yi0.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9084/0911071524mu1.jpg


I think it looks good already.

Shots from a couple of weeks ago.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2908/2310071229po6.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2506/2310071217qz8.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1961/2310071306mg5.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2623/1510071238kz7.jpg

Thanks NeilM.

Progress...progress....wonderful progress!

Looks like there's to be a glazed winter garden between buildings 1 and 2

Application number
C/06768/07/FUL

Date application received
06/11/2007

Date application registered
06/11/2007

Status
Under Consultation

Location
Snow Hill - land at, Snow Hill Queensway, City, Birmingham,

Proposal
Glazed link winter garden between office buildings one and two

Consultation details
Consultations Help

Start date
06/11/2007

End date
03/12/2007


Some landscaping detail on this pic

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/PSR/control/getrelateddocument?txt_PSR_Application_Number=C%2F06768%2F07%2FFUL&OBJECT_ID=0901487a8062505a&DOCUMENT_TYPE=Plans+%26+Drawings&DOCUMENT_SUBTYPE=Application+Plans&DOCUMENT_NAME=Overall+Landscape+Plan+%28indicative+only%29+302+P

Sounds wonderful.

Does that come across as sarcastic?

No really! That's superb - nice if was open to the public, but I doubt it.

hmmm, im unsure...looks like an add on!

They have/had one of these on the AT&T building (i think it was) in New York.

It's open to the public, full of tables and chairs and coffee shops and quite wonderful.

The buildings of the World Financial Centre in NY are also linked in such a way. It's a really good public space for informal meetings, PR events etc. I went in there once and there was some Basketball star signing books and the like. Great atmosphere. Sounds great to me if we can have something like that.

Sounds like the sort of indoor/outdoor space that i was talking about a few weeks ago that Brum needs a bit more of.

Sounds like a good idea, planning app docs don't really give a good impression of what it'll be like tho. Can anyone tell if there will still be access through the winter gardens between Snowhill and the Metro side of the buildings... think it is important to retain this link given the overall context that this is quite a large yet narrow site.

Saturday morning....Sorry they're blurred...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o114/fruityandnutty/IMGP0536.jpg

....and the other side...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o114/fruityandnutty/IMGP0539.jpg

Thanks for the pics.

Here are the plans for the glazed link between 1 and 2 and map showing the public spaces from St Chads square to Snow Hill Square.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/shgl.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/shpl.jpg

it just seems at the wrong height with the rest of the buildlings... could the roof not have been at the same height of the colonade of both the office blocks?!?!?!?

Thanks for those Feltip.

it just seems at the wrong height with the rest of the buildlings... could the roof not have been at the same height of the colonade of both the office blocks?!?!?!?

Begs a question doesn't it........

it just seems at the wrong height with the rest of the buildlings... could the roof not have been at the same height of the colonade of both the office blocks?!?!?!?

Good point - it would help with the lining through. Waterproofing might be a challenge though.

I too share concerns that it will stop the general public walking through though.

^^ Once there's a Starbucks in there, it'll soon liven up! :)

Twilight pics from yesterday

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Just a little bit further to go. Cladding isn't that noticeable yet. With the quality of this development, I'm really looking forward to it.

saw the glass for the first time myself on Thursday, looking good:)

Thanks for the photos Neil . This one has gone up very quickly.

Pic i took from the police HQ today, was going to go up to the car park but its closed for refurb. While I was there saw a truck load of steel coming through, and just hearing the noise from the station gives you a real buzz on how great this project really is:) BTW on the topic of Snow Hill in the Knight Frank offices opposite the site I saw the big model for V Tower so dont know if anyone else has seen it but its there lol

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Yeah that model has been talked of before. havent seen it myself mind. Ta for the pic looks like the beginning of the glazing now.

Should be nice and warm in there soon, i bet they r freezing their wotsits off :nuts:

From todays webcamhttp://http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc146/daisyjoshyork/untitled.jpg

Metro viaduct seems to be coming along well.

Indeed it those.

Top of that carpark looks better, shame about the rest of it.

just a quick one from today, weather was terrible, cold and slushy snow.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t279/GrAfiK248/snowhill-1.jpg

The only picture worth keeping that my brother took yesterday. I suppose I need to give him a quick lesson into using the camera.
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thats just made me feel really dizzy

My brother's photographic composition skills are unrivalled :|.

I think that's quite an interesting angle actually.

I think its called the crooked neck angle. Things are progressing well!

Like the glass more reflective than I imagined.

Just noticed what appears to be frosted glass that seems to have been installed randomly. I assume this is intentional???

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That might just be sections where the protective backing strips have yet to be removed. Or... It could be frosted glass. Time will tell.

It's in a pattern though so I think it may be frosted glass. The only other option is the builders have too much spare time on their hands and getting a bit bored!

It's in a pattern though so I think it may be frosted glass. The only other option is the builders have too much spare time on their hands and getting a bit bored!

No, you're thinking of Masshouse mate!:)

looks similar cladding to that on beetham tower in manchester

looks similar cladding to that on beetham tower in manchester

God i thought it was just me, its identical from what i can see.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :evil:

It is nothing like it! You can see this is a structured pattern of 3 bars (with gaps between). If you stand outside you can also see it is translucent - perhaps like the stuff Woody mentioned will go on the gable end of 1 Snow Hill Plaza.

I've started writing the Wikipedia article for the Snowhill development and during my research I came across a document in this planning application that basically said that the memorials at St Chad's Circus still exist but a decision on where they will be relocated to has not yet been made. No news above The Swing though... :shifty:

Yeah, I think JFK one is going to Digbeth. Where exactly im not sure although with one the new developments im sure.

Well judging by precedent I expect it got flattened in a skip or became scrap metal.

I've started writing the Wikipedia article for the Snowhill development and during my research I came across a document in this planning application that basically said that the memorials at St Chad's Circus still exist but a decision on where they will be relocated to has not yet been made. No news above The Swing though... :shifty:

Can you give us a link to the article please?

A few from today showing work progressing on rail viaduct too.

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Can you give us a link to the article please?

The article hasn't been created yet. I am currently writing it in my user sandbox and when I think I have added the important bits, I will give it it's own proper article. It will be under the title 'Snowhill' although I am tempted to put it under 'Snow Hill' to provide a history of the Snow Hill area in general.

Cheers for the pics Feltip, seems to be a lot of activity like always!

OK, more research suggests that the Swing remains. This will be relocated. The 'Kennedy Facsimile' has also been retained and is to be relocated. The 'Mosaic Panel' will be incorporated into the Snowhill development. The GWR Mosaic has been destroyed but a record of it has been made for the Birmingham City Council's archives.

OK, more research suggests that the Swing remains. This will be relocated. The 'Kennedy Facsimile' has also been retained and is to be relocated. The 'Mosaic Panel' will be incorporated into the Snowhill development. The GWR Mosaic has been destroyed but a record of it has been made for the Birmingham City Council's archives.

Good good. The GWR mosaic was pretty poor so not too bothered about that. Good they kept the swing, dunno where they could put it tho.

The viaduct bridge awaiting reconnection:

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^^ Nice angle!

A few from today showing work progressing on rail viaduct too.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/constSnow.jpg

Great snap there - the voidspace between the basement bottom level and foundations is visible. Good progress with the viaduct as well. Coming together like clockwork.

The viaduct bridge awaiting reconnection:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/metvia.jpg

I've always thought the 'roof' part of that tunnel as it disappears under St Chads to be a bit crap looking. It's as if the design engineer couldn't think of a better idea at the time, and when it was finished, thought, "hmm, that doesn't look right. It looks a bit temporary and, well...crap; Ho hum, too late now."
I wonder, can't something be done to improve it's appearance, rather than it looking like the flat top roof of a kitchen extension or large shed? Stick some large planters on it or something.

I've always thought the 'roof' part of that tunnel as it disappears under St Chads to be a bit crap looking. It's as if the design engineer couldn't think of a better idea at the time, and when it was finished, thought, "hmm, that doesn't look right. It looks a bit temporary and, well...crap; Ho hum, too late now."
I wonder, can't something be done to improve it's appearance, rather than it looking like the flat top roof of a kitchen extension or large shed? Stick some large planters on it or something.

Spooky, I walked past that and noticed it for the first time today and though exactly the same!

Suppose it's not an angle that viewed that much. Does look crap tho

Am i right in thinking there are to be bars etc on the side of the building next to where the tramlines will (one day..) be?

Me and my mates from work are looking forward to having another 'village type' venue in brum to go to on a Friday night after work.

I was at these lights yesterday and the view from here is going to be INCREDIBLE!!! Sorry didn't have a camera.

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Thanks for the pics Feltip . I think the 'joining' is going to be an interesting manoeuvre to say the least !

I predict an all-in-one framework to be lifted in place by crane after prep work on each side. They did the one from Hyatt to ICC by crane.

They've already got the Bearing Pads for one end of the deck - you can see them in the bottom right hand corner.

They might also make the deck on one side and push it across the gap. The problem I'd forsee with a crane here is access. You'd need a dirty great mobile crane, but there's a tunnel running under where you'd want to put the bearing pads.

Today!:)

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Oh, those black things in the mirror wall of Snow Hill Station are ventaliation grills, I always wondered why they didn't have them reflective, and simply look like a major mistake by the builders.

They are of course major mistakes by the arichetects.

Thanks for the update Hopkins .

Nice pics Hopkins.

I always like the old reflective shots - that's a great angle - took a moment to work out where you took it from.

thats pretty much topped out really...where the poles reach to

Went for a walk around here yesterday, there is loads glass on it now! Looks great imo. They have even started to clad the back. this is gonna look awesome.

some pictures this weekend i think.

One from today. I think thats it now for the frame.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Feltip/SHone29Nov.jpg

Very nice . Thanks Feltip .

The cladding at the front is on to the fourth floor.

Of course SnowHill 2 will be very prominant from this angle , but do people reckon that we will get a good view of SnowHill 3 ? I imagine we'll get something but I don't think we will be able to appreciate the hotel .



One from today. I think thats it now for the frame.

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I imagine we'll have the Residential tower looming overhead, and the hotel may be just poking its head over. Any chance of a glimpse of 1 Snow Hill Plaza from here?

I . Any chance of a glimpse of 1 Snow Hill Plaza from here?

I would like to see it but I think the view would be blocked out .

Good news for Snowhill...not so good for Colmore Plaza...


Ballymore is poised to secure two of Birmingham’s largest office requirements at its £200m Snow Hill development in the city centre.



High street bank Barclays is about to agree to take its 100,000 sq ft requirement to No 1 Snow Hill, the first office phase of the 1m sq ft mixed-use scheme.



Solicitor Wragge & Co is understood to have selected part of phase two. It plans to take 230,000 sq ft in the 310,000 sq ft No 2 Snow Hill for its long-running requirement.



The law firm will move from 55 Colmore Row, where it occupies 135,000 sq ft. But its lease does not expire until 2017.



A source close to the deal said: "Wragges will have to pay a lot to get out of its lease. It hasn’t agreed its exit strategy with landlord Morley yet, but it has all but agreed terms at Snow Hill."



Phase one of Snow Hill is under construction and is scheduled for completion in 2009. KPMG has already signed for 120,000 sq ft at No 1 Snow Hill. Phase two will start on site next year if the deal with Wragges goes ahead.



The lettings will be a victory for the Irish developer over Carlyle Group’s neighbouring Colmore Plaza.



The 300,000 sq ft Colmore Plaza was favourite to secure the Barclays requirement and, until last year, looked set to land Wragges.



Those talks broke down, however, when Abstract Land sold the scheme to Carlyle.



Carlyle wants to set a record rent in Birmingham, and is looking for up to £36 per sq ft. Headline rents in Birmingham are £32.50 per sq ft.

Interesting. I wonder whether we will see Building 2 start soon?

The 300,000 sq ft Colmore Plaza was favourite to secure the Barclays requirement and, until last year, looked set to land Wragges.

Those talks broke down, however, when Abstract Land sold the scheme to Carlyle.

Carlyle wants to set a record rent in Birmingham, and is looking for up to £36 per sq ft. Headline rents in Birmingham are £32.50 per sq ft.

Serves them right for being greedy

What's the source Ziggy?

Where are KPMG going if most of the space has gone to these other occupiers?

Top few floors of Building 1 :)

ive seen a very similar article in building magazine!

What is snowhill 2 again?

The second office building that will go between the tower and the office block under construction.

It's the second office building on the Snowhill site, similar design to the one currently under construction, but even bigger.

Oh ok thanks for that I was just a bit confused.

I think this is BRILLIANT NEWS!!! Look at it this way, it doesn't matter how long it takes for Colmore Plaza to get a letting, because its already built!
Now Snowhill 2 has a large pre-let it will start construction sooner rather than later......... The entire Snowhill development U/C at that same time.

Can't wait! :banana:

Could it impact upon Colmore Plaza 2 though? Could construction be delayed because of this?

Yes, and if such a high profile speculative build as Colmore Plaza fails, this may well have an impact on anything other developers are willing to propose.

it doesn't matter how long it takes for Colmore Plaza to get a letting, :

Hasn't it already got Davis Langdon?

Rigadon! long time no see! i remember you from years ago

where you been?!!?!

Oh he appears every now and then. He posts at least twice a week, I'd say! :yes:

^ really? i cant remember seeing him for ages!

Rigadon is one of the old skool members - back when we were getting excited about arena central in 2003 or around then!

anyway - anyone getting pictures of this cladding today?

the view from my penthouse ;)

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I envy you so much! That is a fantastic view, thanks for the pic! :)

no worries mate, envy away!

Hmmm, I'm developing a bit of green eyed hatred toward yourself, you'll be glad to hear!

how is that possible, im your one and only lovely woodhousen!

Great pic Woodhousen . Peat House is going to be taller ( from that angle ) than Colmore Gate .

No cladding on this end yet...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/snowhill021207.jpg

Anybody taken any recent pics of the cladding on the road side? There was 1.5 stories of cladding that side last weekend if i remember correctly.. anymore progress?

Whats the curved building under construction in Woodies photo?

Peat house.. see the other thread

No cladding on this end yet...

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e228/chris_engels/snowhill021207.jpg

Anybody taken any recent pics of the cladding on the road side? There was 1.5 stories of cladding that side last weekend if i remember correctly.. anymore progress?

I didn't think the Livery Street car park could look anymore pathetic, yet somehow they've managed it.

I didn't think the Livery Street car park could look anymore pathetic, yet somehow they've managed it.

Only realised today that they're repeating that 'lovely' paint job on every floor...

Oh dear god no! :ohno:

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Wow Jay, they are amazing.

Reminds me of Constantine and when he goes to hell with the clouds in the background.

Blimey!

What's the chap under construction on the right?

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^^ Peat House http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=254855&page=13

Great pics jay

Thanks GrAfiK!

Awesome pic Jay! :okay:

Very nice photos JPD .

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more floors to come? :S there seems to be poles sticking up to suggest so

I think they just need to do the plant floor and the roof of the atrium. Might be wrong though.

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This is a fantastic photo JPD

Should be entered in the Urban Photo competition thread i reckon

Good idea. Done!

Mate superb. Absolutely superb photo there!

i had heard it had managed to a git a little height increase.... subtly!

how much of one?

only talking a floor i think but i dont know!