View Full Version : St. Helen's l LONDON l 118m l 28fl


The Messiah
July 28th, 2003, 02:11 AM
St. Helen's
London, UK

HEIGHT: 118m
FLOORS: 28 floors
COMPLETION: 1969
ARCHITECT: Gollins Melvin Ward Partnership ( GMW Architects )
USE: ?



Notes:

One of the first tall buildings to appear in London's financial district.


Arguably the best example of high quality International architecture in London, this building is up to be
listed by English Heritage.


It has had three name changes in five years. First it was CGNU and then Aviva, and is now called St Helen's
after the nearby church.


Headquarters of the UK's largest insurance group, Aviva.


4th tallest building in the City of London.


First building to feature a 'hung' structure.


The building is situated in a prominent location in The City, and occupies one entire side of St Helen's square,
opposite the Lloyds Building and SwissRe. It will soon be joined by a neighbouring 225m skyscraper, the Leadenhall Building. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=97414)




http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/1.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/2.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/3.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/4.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/5.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/6.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/7.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/8.jpg





http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/9.jpg

renell
July 28th, 2003, 01:56 PM
6.5/10 nice contrast between this one and Swiss RE. the old modern and the new modern:)

RafflesCity
July 28th, 2003, 05:37 PM
6.5/10

It looks really good for something built in 69. Nice glassy facade.

SteelCity32
July 28th, 2003, 07:56 PM
I've always like glassy facades. 6/10

giallo
July 29th, 2003, 02:09 AM
just average. I wouldn't give it a second look. 5

Labrador
July 31st, 2003, 12:28 PM
7/10
I like it, but I don't like it's proximaty to St. Helen's church.

Kaneda
July 31st, 2003, 02:48 PM
5/10 Just an average box. Those gitters, or whatever they are, in the middel and in the top, ruins the nice facade. :down:

BGT
August 1st, 2003, 11:05 PM
7/10

james2390
August 4th, 2003, 07:07 PM
6.5

AndrewC
August 4th, 2003, 09:12 PM
wow, i thought this would be trashed by international standards!!!

i give the neat box look a 6

Venezuelacom
August 5th, 2003, 05:57 AM
6/10

Eastender
September 14th, 2003, 10:20 PM
rather plain, the colour makes it a bit more elegant 6

SeeMacau
September 15th, 2003, 01:13 PM
Pretty good box

8/10

Wu-Gambino
September 16th, 2003, 01:38 AM
6/10

freson
September 16th, 2003, 07:00 PM
5 Bad copy of the project never built of Van der Rohe for London... The other one was much more better, specially the relation with the square....

Fabio
November 16th, 2003, 02:21 AM
7/10

it looks ok

Monkey
August 7th, 2004, 05:43 PM
7/10

A nice midrise that helps to bulk out the City skyline. Not exactly stunning, but it's been around for ages so it wins points for sentimental value I guess.



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/city/18sthelens.jpg



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/city/16swissre2.jpg



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens_plaza_montage.jpg



http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/st_helens.jpg

Schroedinger's Cat
August 7th, 2004, 08:10 PM
5/10

Monkey
August 13th, 2004, 11:52 PM
http://img41.photobucket.com/albums/v127/jorgito/DSC02685.jpg

Monkey
September 14th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Viewed from 30SMA:


http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Winkel/swissre/002_30.jpg

RafflesCity
September 18th, 2004, 05:31 PM
some nice pics there thanks for adding :)

Monkey
September 21st, 2004, 12:13 AM
Here's another. :)



http://www.terminalterminus.co.uk/Architecture/Photos/StHelens.jpg

Accura4Matalan
September 26th, 2004, 12:21 AM
I dont like this building much. 5/10.

Madman
September 29th, 2004, 09:24 PM
A bad imitation of the Seagram building, but gets a 6 for helping to bulk out the City cluster.

Monkey
November 7th, 2004, 01:53 PM
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/swissre_aerial1.jpg

Dr. Dubai
November 8th, 2004, 09:51 AM
not very special, looks lower than it is. the design is horrendous! 5/10.

AtlanticaC5
November 14th, 2004, 12:21 AM
7/10 A quite nice box

andysimo123
December 12th, 2004, 07:23 PM
6/10

DamienK
December 15th, 2004, 12:01 PM
6/10

Monkey
December 19th, 2004, 12:49 AM
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/buildings/99_pic4.jpg

Monkey
December 19th, 2004, 12:50 AM
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/buildings/99_pic5.jpg

london-b
December 20th, 2004, 04:36 AM
A 3.5 is a bit harsh, whoever did that is crazy!. A 5 at the lowest, but I gave it a 7 as it is a nice box.

czm3
December 20th, 2004, 05:03 AM
A great example of the international style....

However I never liked the intl style...... sorry :(

Monkey
February 13th, 2005, 01:11 AM
I've updated the pics and information at the start of this thread. :)

Desven
February 13th, 2005, 03:36 PM
not good,not bad
6/10

Monkey
February 15th, 2005, 01:05 AM
Viewed from the west, it forms an interesting set of "steps", with 6-8 Bishopsgate in front, and SwissRe behind.



http://img72.exs.cx/img72/875/aerial60px.jpg

Monkey
February 20th, 2005, 12:31 AM
http://www.willfox.com/images/skyscrapers/sthelens/10.jpg

Þróndeimr
February 23rd, 2005, 05:45 PM
6/10

Alter-Ego
March 3rd, 2005, 04:06 PM
6/10

Tubeman
March 9th, 2005, 05:22 AM
I don't mind it, but it blocks SwissRe from Waterloo Bridge which is a bit poo.

You can't hate it or love it, I'd go for a very average 6.5

superskyline
April 3rd, 2005, 02:54 PM
7/10

Medo
June 21st, 2005, 08:58 AM
10/10

beta29
June 22nd, 2005, 08:07 PM
7/10

DRAKKO
July 1st, 2005, 08:54 AM
9/10

El_Greco
September 7th, 2005, 03:34 AM
7/10

SoboleuS
September 11th, 2005, 09:44 PM
I like boxes, but this one is quite boring ;) 7/10

decapitated
September 12th, 2005, 05:08 PM
just a box, nothing more 5/10

wjfox
September 12th, 2005, 05:16 PM
A nice international-style box, slightly Chicago-esque, and it really helps to bulk up that part of the skyline.

Quite nice from street level too.

7.5

FJP
September 16th, 2005, 02:21 AM
7/10

Bruckner
September 16th, 2005, 08:04 PM
..

Sinjin P.
December 20th, 2005, 06:54 AM
Box! 7.5/10 ;)

www.sercan.de
December 20th, 2005, 03:34 PM
6,5/10

forvine
January 22nd, 2006, 08:00 PM
6.5/10

Jules
January 28th, 2006, 06:08 AM
Dull. 4/10

Skyman
May 20th, 2006, 09:47 PM
7/10

marpa
May 25th, 2006, 06:46 AM
http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2005/06/375108.jpg

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2004/03/248219.jpg

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfer/sixwm/2003/10/225295.jpg

7,5/10

Phobos
June 12th, 2006, 03:30 AM
8/10

classy building.

Benonie
June 17th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Not bad for the swinging sixties: 8/10

barcellona
June 17th, 2006, 12:46 PM
8/10

Erebus555
June 18th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Boxy, 5/10.

Miguel_Prat
July 9th, 2006, 03:47 AM
7/10

wjfox
July 9th, 2006, 01:28 PM
http://www.nicholashodder.com/galleries/london/IMG_1578.jpg

clarky
July 10th, 2006, 04:48 PM
6.5/10

gutooo
August 9th, 2006, 02:10 AM
7/10

RiversideGator
August 9th, 2006, 02:18 AM
The Erotic Gherkin is an interesting structure but it is totally out of character with the surrounding built environment. As such, it doesnt work for me at all. It is a disgrace to have it so close to St. Pauls also. Anyway, sorry to sound like Prince Charles, but this is how I feel. This should be out in the Docklands. Keep the heart of London traditional.

wjfox
September 8th, 2006, 09:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukv4JEqKAmk

wjfox
September 8th, 2006, 09:55 PM
The Erotic Gherkin is an interesting structure but it is totally out of character with the surrounding built environment. As such, it doesnt work for me at all. It is a disgrace to have it so close to St. Pauls also. Anyway, sorry to sound like Prince Charles, but this is how I feel. This should be out in the Docklands. Keep the heart of London traditional.
You really don't have a clue.

ZZ-II
September 12th, 2006, 10:39 PM
7.5/10

eddie88
May 2nd, 2007, 12:23 AM
8/10

Ralphkke
May 6th, 2007, 03:50 PM
Nothing wrong with this tower, a 7,5 out of 10.

premier
May 6th, 2007, 03:54 PM
Average.. Looks relly bad when compared to the near by Swiss Re. 4.5/10

poshbakerloo
May 8th, 2007, 09:19 PM
6/10...okish...i very unusual style for London...

KoolKeatz
May 9th, 2007, 12:18 AM
not ugly but boring 5/10

kamil.bukowski
June 10th, 2007, 05:24 PM
7/10

Astralis
January 2nd, 2008, 01:27 PM
7/10

meus
January 24th, 2008, 12:31 PM
7/10

MasonicStage™
January 26th, 2008, 10:33 AM
7,5/10

Prince Victor
February 24th, 2008, 07:58 PM
7/10

Jim856796
August 25th, 2008, 05:23 AM
8/10

Simon Halabi announced his plans to demolish the tower and replace it with a much taller one. The plans may have been abandoned.

meds
August 26th, 2008, 03:45 AM
nice

7/10

henry hill
March 29th, 2009, 12:36 AM
8/10

LMCA1990
March 29th, 2009, 01:18 AM
6.5/10

SkyscraperSuperman
April 7th, 2009, 02:34 PM
8/10. Considering its age, the facade is very modern.

tonyssa
April 21st, 2009, 08:40 PM
8/10

Jan Del Castillo
August 13th, 2009, 10:45 AM
7. Regards.

xavarreiro
August 15th, 2009, 05:23 AM
7/10

MR Kingg
September 10th, 2009, 07:57 PM
10/10

you love everything in london lol

PortoNuts
September 10th, 2009, 08:13 PM
8/10.

Boogie
September 10th, 2009, 11:25 PM
I love modernistic simplicity with no needless elements. Just clear. 9/10

sieradzanin1
January 19th, 2010, 06:35 PM
8/10

New York Morning
January 20th, 2010, 01:11 AM
9/10

romanito
August 27th, 2010, 05:37 AM
8/10

v-sun
March 1st, 2011, 08:32 AM
7/10

yudibali2008
July 21st, 2011, 06:16 PM
8/10

cloud32
November 13th, 2011, 04:56 PM
7.5 - I love how the main 'Block' seems to hover over the main lobby floor...

Mr_Dru
November 20th, 2011, 07:34 PM
6/10

Eric Offereins
December 7th, 2011, 11:10 PM
7/10

tim1807
December 13th, 2011, 04:37 PM
6/10 boring box, and the mechanical floors are eliminated ugly in the structure.

OldBoy137
December 15th, 2011, 05:16 PM
6/10, another one copy-pasted glass box.

mossimoh
January 15th, 2012, 08:12 PM
7/10