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smysticed
September 13th, 2007, 07:20 PM
A copy of Brummyboy92's thread with the standardised title:

Welcome to what will be the talest structure in the UK outside of London.
VTP200, or Vertiplex 200. Its the British stratoshphre tower, oh and my god its ten times better.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/jaybuoy/vtp200.png

It will be home to some of the worlds most extreme activites, from a see saw ride over the top, to a the UK's Highest Bungey jump. All in one city, Birmingham. The British city of entertainment.

So what will it include-
Tower Rides:
The Giant Drop - an 8 person free-falling lift that drops 95 metres into the base of the building. This will be the tallest free falling lift in Europe;
The See-Saw - an 8 person vehicle which plummets over the edge of the tower at 125 metres;
20 Flight Trainers - interactive joystick-controlled capsules which spin around the building at a height of 110 metres.

Extreme activites:
The Walk of Fear - allows you to walk around the outside of the building at 115 metres,
The Climb to the Top - allows you to climb to the top of the tower and have your photograph taken against the city skyline;
The Sky Jump - a 100 metre high speed descent, controlled by a super fast winch, which gives the jumper the experience of free falling;
The Bungee Jump - the UK's highest controlled Bungee jump.

The base of the tower will include restaurants, retail units, educational facilities, a 250-bedroom hotel, a rock climbing wall, the lift boarding platform and ticketing booths.

Heres a few Pics.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/jaybuoy/cash-4.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/jaybuoy/u-1.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/jaybuoy/t4rrt4r64.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/jaybuoy/rer6er65e6.jpg

Heres the website for more information http://www.vtp200.com/

Megalothian
September 13th, 2007, 07:25 PM
Beautiful, fun, futuristic, well designed, congrats Birmingham, hope this happens for you...

DAMN I m good
September 13th, 2007, 07:32 PM
i dont like it dont seem tall

Jamandell (d69)
September 13th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Wow...how...bizarre!

Interesting idea though, very different. Good for Birmingham I'd think :) I hope it goes ahead!

woodhousen
September 13th, 2007, 08:17 PM
its certainly unique for us in the uk!

poshbakerloo
September 13th, 2007, 08:26 PM
wow...a tower of fun...

Brum Knows Best
September 14th, 2007, 12:58 AM
Very unique and very good for Birmingham

wjfox
September 14th, 2007, 01:30 AM
It's okay I s'pose, but apart from the height it's a little dull. Nothing to write home about.

hoody
September 14th, 2007, 01:47 AM
I dont think the pictures do it justice. It does look very stunted in these.

It is an excellent idea and hope it goes ahead.

PresidentBjork
September 14th, 2007, 04:17 AM
It's a bit glitzy, but I guess that's the point. At least it'll be an addition to the skyline.

WonderlandPark
September 14th, 2007, 04:24 AM
Why would you build a tower just for the sake of building a tower, and then putting the observation deck only halfway up? Looks very squat, lots of structural mass for such a short tower, should be 300m.

Newcastle Guy
September 14th, 2007, 02:13 PM
Short? I don't think you quite grasp how tall this for Birmingham, or ANY UK city outside of London.

There was obviously a reason for designing it like that.

paw25694
September 14th, 2007, 02:59 PM
cute :)

Saigoneseguy
September 14th, 2007, 04:27 PM
Looks like it's been cut short, but classy tower anyway.

Brummyboy92
September 14th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Oh the main observation deck was going to be higher than that, I will post pics of previous designs tommarow.

eusebius
September 14th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Quite tacky to be honest. Will Birmingham beat Blackpool?

Brummyboy92
September 14th, 2007, 05:26 PM
I find it hard to see how its tacky, theres no flashing lights on it saying VTP200, Its acctually very modern and ,what do you mean will Birmingham beat Blackpool I dont understand what you mean.

Xelebes
September 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Kind of bland. Trying to recall which videogame it reminds me of. Bomberman?

S.Yorks Capital
September 14th, 2007, 05:29 PM
Good idea. Hope it doesnt look stumpy when built however.

Brummyboy92
September 14th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Kind of bland. Trying to recall which videogame it reminds me of. Bomberman?

LOL

AngrySlob
September 14th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Birmingham. The British city of entertainment.

ORLY

Daewon
September 14th, 2007, 06:43 PM
Looks like somethign from Half Life 2 game or HALO very strange tower i dont like it

Flogging Molly
September 14th, 2007, 07:38 PM
There's a video on the website. The tallest observation part will rotate to 190m. Then you can get out and climb the rest of the tower and have your picture taken overlooking birmingham.

The observation pods themselves are just shy of the London Eye. and the gyroride go's 40m higher then the London eye. Do the maths.

Newcastle Guy
September 14th, 2007, 08:04 PM
^^Um, I think you just did it for us?;)

gothicform
September 15th, 2007, 06:17 AM
here's some better pics

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5341VTP200_pic2.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5341VTP200_pic3.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5341VTP200_pic4.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5341VTP200_pic5.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/5341VTP200_pic6.jpg

Ramses
September 15th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Very 70s design. This tower is already outdated before it is even built.

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 02:14 PM
Very 70s design. This tower is already outdated before it is even built.

Are you kidding?

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 02:18 PM
Video

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wjfox
September 15th, 2007, 02:29 PM
^ Well that's certainly improved my opinion. And I wasn't aware of the Eastside regeneration. Surely this tower would set a precedent and allow 200m office skyscrapers in Birmingham...

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 02:44 PM
^ Well that's certainly improved my opinion. And I wasn't aware of the Eastside regeneration. Surely this tower would set a precedent and allow 200m office skyscrapers in Birmingham...

You were'nt aware of Eastside? That suprise me a wee bit. Whats shown is only roughly 25% of it. It already includes Masshouse, Venture East, City Park Gate, VerTiPlex, Cuzon Park, Warwick Bar and the New City Park aswell as a new giant student campus.

It's also been hinted that certain developers are approaching the 200m figure on a few proposals but if they come off is a completely different matter. :)

This is one tower where some plans were up to 60 storeys. This is currently in the showroom at Broadway Malayan. At the moment this concept looks a bit shy of that but room for scope.

http://i8.tinypic.com/4z0lqb7.jpg

KoolKeatz
September 15th, 2007, 02:56 PM
Thats a ugly tower. I dont like it. The design looks very outdated. :ohno:

wjfox
September 15th, 2007, 03:02 PM
You were'nt aware of Eastside? That suprise me a wee bit.


Well I know the project name, but didn't really check out the threads in the Birmingham forum so I wasn't aware of the scale of it... clearly it's much bigger than I realised. If the VTP goes ahead, it will hopefully boost the city's image and attract some investors who are willing to fund a skyscraper or two. 60+ storeys would be nice!

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 03:05 PM
well its just been reported by Jones Lang LaSalle that Armani are looking to open up a hotel in Birmingham and that Sheraton or Hilton will be opening up at the 5 star Snow Hill and with future commonwealth and world championship bids aswell as us hosting both the US and Chinese teams before the olympics it seems Birmingham is quite a healthy city for investors to locate in. Not to mention Mr Yeung of Thailand has plans to bring some of the best Chinese restaurants aswell as other major companies and cultural attractions. Its a very interesting time.

Kool Keatz. I dont think you realise that this is a theme park/observation tower. There's no way in hell it can look like the Shard or Burj Dubai. Its probably the best of its kind and will look truly outstanding it its location by the new park.

city_thing
September 15th, 2007, 03:16 PM
An eye-sore in the making.

Not only is it ugly, and tiny, but it looks like it came from some early 60's world fair.

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 03:18 PM
:lol:

AshMat
September 15th, 2007, 03:22 PM
That video's impressed me, Birmingham's not far from me, i'll ahve to visit this palce.

Mr Sky
September 15th, 2007, 03:35 PM
An eye-sore in the making.

Not only is it ugly, and tiny, but it looks like it came from some early 60's world fair.

:rofl:, i agree

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 03:52 PM
Tiny?

Its bigger then the Millenium Eye. Would you climb much higher then 200m? :dunno:

Its far from ugly, and 60's world fair? Either Holland is working with space age technology or you're taking the piss.

Locke
September 15th, 2007, 04:44 PM
It's ghastly, and tacky to boot.

Who needs those kinds of silly rides defining your skyline, you'll go on them once and then you'll have to look at that silly thing for the rest of your life. Pretty bad trade off. Can't say I see any other cities doing this and there is probably a very good reason why... it looks daft.

Just imagine it in 15 years with the rain stains and dirty windows... it's an absolute eyesore in the making.

It's just tastless, from the messed up proportions to the daggy font they used (btw you don't have to write the name of a tower on a tower, ppl will figure it out).

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Trump?

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 04:47 PM
It's ghastly, and tacky to boot.

Who needs those kinds of silly rides defining your skyline, you'll go on them once and then you'll have to look at that silly thing for the rest of your life. Pretty bad trade off. Can't say I see any other cities doing this and there is probably a very good reason why... it looks daft.

Just imagine it in 15 years with the rain stains and dirty windows... it's an absolute eyesore in the making.

It's just tastless, from the messed up proportions to the daggy font they used (btw you don't have to write the name of a tower on a tower, ppl will figure it out).


I'll settle for tacky. Birmingham can afford to be. Rather be an interesting city and unique then one of many.

Oh and they have cleaners.

tuten
September 15th, 2007, 04:48 PM
I think its a cool idea.

Ok its not the best looking thing in the world, but its not the worse, and i like the colour scheme

I think the main point of this tower is to bring entertainment, not stunning architecture, and by looking at the video, i think it will do that.

Brummyboy92
September 15th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Well it worked in las vegas with less attractions, and Birmingham having a bigger poulation than Las Vegas it will work.

Myster E
September 15th, 2007, 05:03 PM
And so the followers all follow the leader like a moth to a flame with the 'it's ugly/already dated comment' :lol: I think it looks fine the way it is although I'd straighten out the bottom part of the base a little.

city_thing
September 15th, 2007, 05:03 PM
Tiny?

Its bigger then the Millenium Eye. Would you climb much higher then 200m? :dunno:

Its far from ugly, and 60's world fair? Either Holland is working with space age technology or you're taking the piss.

Well from the responses, it appears that many more people agree with my opinion than yours :)

200m isn't that big. A lot of people climb higher than that every single day.
People climb all over the top of this thing all the time.
http://www.azureglobe.com/cs/centrepoint_tower_0028a_750.jpg

http://www.myweekend.net.au/tower%20outside.JPG

Any way, I'm not going to turn this into a city v city thread. Obviously you like this proposal, so I'm happy for you. All I'm saying is that it would suit the Blackpool pleasure beach or some soviet era nuclear testing facility turned theme park more than a city trying to advertise itself as a vibrant, dynamic, entertaining city.

SimonTheSoundMan
September 15th, 2007, 05:16 PM
It's high for the UK. We have a height limit set by the Civil Aviation Authority, this building is more than 50m over the limit.

SimonTheSoundMan
September 15th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Well I know the project name, but didn't really check out the threads in the Birmingham forum so I wasn't aware of the scale of it... clearly it's much bigger than I realised. If the VTP goes ahead, it will hopefully boost the city's image and attract some investors who are willing to fund a skyscraper or two. 60+ storeys would be nice!
It's the largest scheme in the UK. Expected that over £10bn ($20bn US) to be spent. VTP200 will cost around £100m, a small part of the project.

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 05:30 PM
All I'm saying is that it would suit the Blackpool pleasure beach or some soviet era nuclear testing facility turned theme park more than a city trying to advertise itself as a vibrant, dynamic, entertaining city.


Errr, the tower is vibrant, dynamic and entertaining. Perfect for a city thats advertising itself as .... urmmm vibrant, dynamic and entertaining.

Brummyboy92
September 15th, 2007, 06:13 PM
City thing, not many people climb 200m or higher each day. And climbing to the top is not walking up steps. Its sort of rock climbing. And also it would not suite Blackpool. Just because its a poor mans Las Vegas does not mean that it needs a stratoshphere like Las Vegas.

Flogging Molly
September 15th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Oh and the tower has been designed to enable it to change the rides once they've reached the end of thier life cycle so it continually evolves and stays at the head of the game. A reason to keep going up City_Thing.

bryson662001
September 15th, 2007, 06:31 PM
I've always wanted an indoor/outdoor water park in my downtown. The tower will be good if it is maintained and people use it. The last time I went to the stratosphere in Las Vegas it was dirty and shabby and more or less deserted which made a really bad impression.

Brummyboy92
September 15th, 2007, 06:50 PM
Yeah the stratoshphere could do with a clean.

nezzybaby
September 16th, 2007, 04:12 PM
It's not that it's not high, it will be very high for england, but what an eyesore to have visible from the whole city. Would work ok in vegas, maybe even dubai, but in a major UK city, it will look terrible. Birmingham is not a tourist attraction, it's not even blackpool, this should not get built until there are enough tall towers to hide it.

AngrySlob
September 16th, 2007, 05:19 PM
In the context of the huge developments in the pipeline for Birmingham, this looks like a very good project. It is good to see the city is acting more like the sprawling metropolis that it is and trying to achieve its own exciting identity while shaking off the boring dull tag. As the UK's second largest city I wish it all the best.

Brummyboy92
September 16th, 2007, 08:35 PM
It's not that it's not high, it will be very high for england, but what an eyesore to have visible from the whole city. Would work ok in vegas, maybe even dubai, but in a major UK city, it will look terrible. Birmingham is not a tourist attraction, it's not even blackpool, this should not get built until there are enough tall towers to hide it.

How can you say Birmingham is not a Tourist attraction. The fact that it has one of the largest shopping malls in europe, a larger canal network than venice and tonnes of new development happening write in the city centre. Oh no that dont attract tourists.

Flogging Molly
September 16th, 2007, 10:34 PM
I dont think Nezzybaby's fully aware of where this development is located and its aim. I think its fair to say as Brummies we understand its site much better then outsiders which is the reason we find this project so unbelievably exciting.

Inturn. Its also safe to say others find it unfortunate something like this is'nt being planned for thier city which makes it easy to pan Birmingham for being innovative and original.

Sbz2ifc
September 17th, 2007, 12:07 AM
I find it hard to see how its tacky, theres no flashing lights on it saying VTP200,

Were you being sarcastic?

There's a big VTP200 sign on it in the first render :lol:

Flogging Molly
September 17th, 2007, 11:04 AM
Does'nt flash though ;) It rotates.

nezzybaby
September 17th, 2007, 01:31 PM
How can you say Birmingham is not a Tourist attraction. The fact that it has one of the largest shopping malls in europe, a larger canal network than venice and tonnes of new development happening write in the city centre. Oh no that dont attract tourists.

I've never seen anyone in Birmingham from further north than Newcastle or south than London, lets be fair its hardly an internationally recognised tourist destination. People visiting this country will go to London first, then places like Edinburgh, Stratford-upon-avon, maybe even Blackpool, but no-one thinks of Birmingham as a must see tourist attraction.

It doesn't matter where this is being built, at a height of 200m it will be visible from most of birmingham.

Flogging Molly
September 17th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Now you're being a numpty Nezzy!

Myster E
September 17th, 2007, 03:30 PM
If that's the case you could say the same about Leeds/Manchester/Glasgow/Newcastle/Nottingham although I'm sure each has played it's part in history and each has it's own unique identity and icon to attract tourists and become an internationally acclaimed city, but when Birmingham has something special to show off people who aren't from the city or country have a tendency to slag it off or resent it without anything positive to say and I find most of these are people who haven't visisted the city or see it as it was in the 1960s but more famously for its accent, I'm not saying anyone on here hasn't visited the city and they're entitled to think what they may of Birmingham.

It's a great city with plenty of potential to become the next generation of greatest world cities as is the case with many of the northern cities mentioned above. Maybe we don't like to show off because we're good folk and we know we're good :)

Should get back to VTP200.

Brummyboy92
September 17th, 2007, 07:32 PM
Yeah, but one more thing, nezzy have you been to Birmingham. There is more people from europe, asia and america in the city centre than people who acctually live in Brum.

Sentient Seas
September 17th, 2007, 11:21 PM
That's... different...

Cristovão471
September 18th, 2007, 03:09 PM
My god this is one ugly ass structure, I know it's short, but for a tower not a skyscraper, geez only 200.

nezzybaby
September 18th, 2007, 04:09 PM
Yeah, but one more thing, nezzy have you been to Birmingham. ....

Yes on many many occasions, most of my family are from birmingham and the surrounding areas, and im a villa fan since birth. Maybe its changed a lot since i last visited, but i really dont agree with the picture you're trying to paint of birmingham. Besides tourist destination or not, this is an ugly building, and when the tallest building in your city is a rollercoaster it makes your city a joke. I honestly do not believe this will ever get off the drawing board.

Flogging Molly
September 18th, 2007, 04:30 PM
:lol:

You're doing yourself no favours Nezzy!

Brummyboy92
September 18th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Yes it has got off the drawing board, they have made models. That just proves its not just a drawing but its a model aswell. LOL

Telfordboy
September 18th, 2007, 06:17 PM
:lol:

Brummyboy92
September 18th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Yeah I crack myself up sometimes.

Brummyboy92
December 27th, 2007, 07:25 PM
God have not been here for a while, well anyway heres the new proposal. The design has changed dramaticaly for the best.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb105/jaybuoy/0000-5.png

ZZ-II
December 27th, 2007, 08:04 PM
yes, looks much better than before