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The Baz
September 18th, 2007, 02:47 AM
I believe Playa Vista is signifigant enough to warrant its own thread.

http://www.carnevale.us/PlayaVistSponsorLogo.jpg

Playa Vista I

http://www.tndwest.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/PlayaVistaaerialmap.jpg

Proposed II & III

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/axb8000/SSC/PlayaVistaoverallmap.gif


I was just sent this email bombshell about the proposed Phase II of PVA, Village Town Center.

Phase II is the more aggressive and substantial portion of the planned zip-code in LA. It has been under heavy attack from enviromentalists and it seems that the NIMBYs have scored a blow against the developers.

California Court of Appeal Overturns L.A. City Council's

Approval to Expand the Playa Vista Development

Court Rules L.A. City Violated State and Local Environmental Laws


LOS ANGELES -(September 13th, 2007) - The California Court of Appeal today overturned all approvals of Phase 2 of the massive 111 acre Playa Vista development and ordered all construction activities to cease immediately: "All construction activities on the project by any person are hereby ordered to be stayed effective immediately. The superior court is directed to issue an order enjoining all project activities that it finds would prejudice the City's consideration or implementation of mitigation measures or alternatives and that could result in an adverse change to the physical environment, until the City fully complies with [the California Environmental Quality Act."



The court's landmark ruling is a major victory for the citizens of Los Angeles, the environment, civil rights of Native Americans, and overall quality of life in Los Angeles. The ruling covers two consolidated cases involving groups as diverse as Ballona Wetlands Land Trust, the Tongva/Gabrieleno Tribal Council of San Gabriel, city of Santa Monica, Surfrider Foundation and Ballona Ecosystem Education Project.



The Court held: "the [Environmental Impact Report on the project] was deficient in its analysis of land use impacts, mitigation of impacts on historical archaeological resources, and wastewater impacts."



The City must now comply with the California Environmental Quality Act, write a new Environmental Impact Report ("EIR") and hold new public hearings. They must respond to public comment and give the public and City Council and opportunity to reconsider the proposed project or some alternative to it. The full 114-page opinion may be read at the Court's website: http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/nonpub/B189630.DOC



The Court repeatedly called the City and developer's statements "untrue", describing the project's environmental analysis as to land use impacts "illusory" and "materially misleading".


Rex Frankel, President of the Ballona Ecosystem Education Project stated, "This victory for the people of Los Angeles is a victory for telling the truth on development decisions. The Court rejected the developer's masquerade about benefits to the public which in fact did not actually exist. The Playa Vista developers threatened the public with a monster development to beat the public into submission to accept a slightly smaller, but still enormous, project. However, the Court agreed with us that the developers never had the rights to build this monster project in the first place."



The Court ruled that the City failed to discuss methods of requiring the developers to preserve in place historical archaeological sites, including Native American gravesites, impacted by the massive development. By omitting this discussion, the City "effectively precluded both meaningful public participation and informed decisionmaking with respect to the decision on mitigation measures." The Court required the City return the project to the drawing board, noting that the City has the power and discretion under the law to consider restoring Native American graves to their prior resting places, even if the developers already have dug them up.



The Court further ruled a revised EIR must include analysis of how the City proposes to dispose of sewage ("wastewater") generated from the project, and provide a discussion of any significant cumulative impacts to the Santa Monica Bay from the project's sewage discharge.



Surfrider Foundation's California Policy Coordinator, Joe Geever, responded: "We are ecstatic that the issue of questionable wastewater planning and associated environmental impacts is finally seeing the light of day. Our major concern was that the City was approving more pressure on out-dated sewage treatment capacity and unabated urban runoff without fully understanding the additional adverse impacts on coastal and ocean water quality and human health risks."



Playa Capital L.L.C.'s 111-acre Phase 2 is the largest, undeveloped, privately-owned parcel of land in the City of Los Angeles. Until today's ruling, the development was to include 2600 dwelling units, 175,000 square feet of office space, 150,000 square feet of retail space and 40,000 square feet of other uses adding 24,000 new daily car trips. The development would have paved over a portion of the historic Ballona Wetlands ecosystem, the 111 acre parcel favorably known by environmentalists as "Ballona Southeast."



Tom Francis of the Ballona Wetlands Land Trust responded, "The Court has given the City Council another chance to get it right. The Council can save taxpayers millions of dollars, clean up Santa Monica Bay, and avoid increased traffic congestion by approving the alternative to more development at Ballona: a natural treatment wetland with parks. We trust Councilman Bill Rosendahl and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa will say "no" to more developer-driven land use planning, and lead the way to greening Los Angeles by supporting alternatives such as this one."

Numerous health and safety issues to residents and the environment have plagued Playa Vista since its inception. Media investigations have exposed a series of methane dangers at Playa Vista including methane gas leaking through the so-called impermeable membranes placed under buildings at Playa Vista Phase 1.

The Baz
September 18th, 2007, 02:59 AM
Older photos of Phase II from LMU. Since then there has been more leveling and infastructure work done but not much.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/axb8000/ballona.jpg

Phase I

http://media.clear-blog.com/smalltown_playavista_480.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/axb8000/playa5.jpg

Fern~Fern*
September 18th, 2007, 04:09 AM
HEre are some of my collection from... I need an update of this same area.

View of LMU from PV*
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/fnee1901/DSCN0416.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/fnee1901/DSCN0414.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/fnee1901/DSCN0420.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/fnee1901/DSCN0421.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/fnee1901/DSCN0419.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/fnee1901/DSCN0422.jpg

TICONLA1
September 18th, 2007, 05:54 AM
I'm watching the two tower cranes at the end of Centinela, (or whatever the name of the street is) two,(2) 5 or 6 story, class 'A' office buildings, with large floorplates, and designed by Johnson and Fain.!

LAsam
September 18th, 2007, 10:01 PM
I just read an article recently in Daily Breeze saying that work on Phase 2 was being halted, per an Appelate Court decision. The EIR was deficient in analysis of development potential, wastewater effects, and disturbance of American Indian artifacts.

kidA
September 19th, 2007, 12:02 AM
I hate this area. Its a place full of all these dense homes but no reason to stay there. No shops, no unique stores, yawwnnn. It's just a place for all the yuppies to sleep and DRIVE everywhere.

Fern~Fern*
September 19th, 2007, 02:57 AM
I just read an article recently in Daily Breeze saying that work on Phase 2 was being halted, per an Appelate Court decision. The EIR was deficient in analysis of development potential, wastewater effects, and disturbance of American Indian artifacts.
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^ That must be an old article about the Indian Artifacts. If I'm not mistaken over a year ago they found some remains of old inhabitants to this area and all construction came to a screeching hault. Until a like superior Native American Chief performed some ritual and who knows what else. Other than that it's nothing but building...building and building.

There's is a section, don't know exactly where but it's off limits. Something to do with those birds forget the name...

The Baz
September 19th, 2007, 10:26 AM
There is still some Native American holdouts claiming that the land remains sacred. A group of them, along with the city of Santa Monica, and the Ballona Wetlands Trust sued Los Angeles over PVAII.

Fern~Fern*
September 20th, 2007, 02:13 AM
What does the City of Santa Monica have to do with this. They have their own issues to handle!

omgitsroy326
June 16th, 2008, 09:17 AM
does anyone know bout the office building for playa vista?

The Baz
June 17th, 2008, 09:49 AM
I think you are talking about the "Horizon" at Playa Vista

http://www.horizonatplayavista.com/

The website has webcams and some renderings. I do not know when it will be complete.

Fern~Fern*
June 18th, 2008, 05:35 AM
^ Hey Baz what about updating us with some recent PV pix to see how the progress going. BTW Goooooooooooooooooo Loyola!!!! :banana:

omgitsroy326
June 18th, 2008, 08:30 AM
baz .. you're right... what's the difference between horizon and this playa vista?

omgitsroy326
June 18th, 2008, 08:31 AM
it's a pretty big project.. two twin buildings.. and one parking...

milquetoast
June 18th, 2008, 09:53 AM
^ Hey Baz what about updating us with some recent PV pix to see how the progress going. BTW Goooooooooooooooooo Loyola!!!! :banana:

I'm sorry! I'm putting my foot down! There's just no way you're gonna refer to Playa Vista as 'PV'. No one, absolutely no one in peacock infested Palos Verdes is gonna let anyone in Playa Vista use their abbreviation! Whew! Sorry, I just had to represent..... my rich bastard cousins :)

croyboy
June 18th, 2008, 10:57 AM
those offices look very very 70s

The Baz
June 19th, 2008, 02:42 AM
baz .. you're right... what's the difference between horizon and this playa vista?

omg, this is just a development located in Playa Vista. PV... PVD? PVA? PVLA? We've had a discussion over the abbreviation before and I forgot what the verdict was :nuts:. P-Vista is the land holding corp and sold that land to another developer to build and operate the Horizon office complex. I'm not really thrilled with its aesthetics.

fern, will do. I just recently got back from South America so I'd be interested in seeing what is going on down there.

omgitsroy326
June 19th, 2008, 03:46 AM
omg, this is just a development located in Playa Vista. PV... PVD? PVA? PVLA? We've had a discussion over the abbreviation before and I forgot what the verdict was :nuts:. P-Vista is the land holding corp and sold that land to another developer to build and operate the Horizon office complex. I'm not really thrilled with its aesthetics.

fern, will do. I just recently got back from South America so I'd be interested in seeing what is going on down there.


yea.. the box... well there was another building being proposed which looks a lot better than the current one in construction.. but that got put on hold...

omgitsroy326
June 19th, 2008, 04:01 AM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/omgitsroy326/SBISE/nb_watersedgeII.gif

Fern~Fern*
June 19th, 2008, 04:40 AM
I'm sorry! I'm putting my foot down! There's just no way you're gonna refer to Playa Vista as 'PV'. No one, absolutely no one in peacock infested Palos Verdes is gonna let anyone in Playa Vista use their abbreviation! Whew! Sorry, I just had to represent..... my rich bastard cousins :)


^ Well your rich bastard cousin and you should know the it's actually Rancho Palos Verdes.... RPV, sooooooooo PV will be know for the Westsides newest community!




fern, will do. I just recently got back from South America so I'd be interested in seeing what is going on down there.

Hey there welcome back.... glad to see you made it home safe. :hilarious
But we need pix.

milquetoast
June 19th, 2008, 05:53 AM
^ Well your rich bastard cousin and you should know the it's actually Rancho Palos Verdes.... RPV, sooooooooo PV will be know for the Westsides newest community!

Fern:)Ferns- puhhhleeeeeeze

milquetoast
June 27th, 2008, 04:32 AM
Playa Vista's Planned 7.9 Acre Central Park
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/trolltoast/200806park.jpg

Continuing with our Playa Vista day, let's consider what the future holds for this sprawling Westside development. So a tiny peek at the 7.9 acre "Central Park" planned for the Playa Vista commercial campus. It's tentatively set to open in summer 2009, according to a rep for Playa Vista development and is being designed by local architect Michael Maltzan (behind downtown's Carver Apartments) and landscape architect James Burnett. The park, located at Jefferson and Centinela, will have a soccer field, an amphitheater (pictured above), and more; the master plan is being kept under record. This is considered a private-public park, meaning that it's private land, but anyone can use it. The park was recently cited by the jury of the AIA-LA, who noted the following: “This park brings provocative design thinking to an environment that needs it.” You bring the blankets, we'll bring the rose wine. Curbed LA

The Baz
June 27th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Playa Vista day at Curbed. How cute. I do not understand that rendering, at all.

svs
June 29th, 2008, 08:57 AM
^ Well your rich bastard cousin and you should know the it's actually Rancho Palos Verdes.... RPV, sooooooooo PV will be know for the Westsides newest community!



Never in a million years will PV mean anything other than Palos Verdes!!!

Macross21
June 29th, 2008, 09:09 AM
Belkin just signed a lease at Playa Vista for their HQ campus. Construction breaking ground now to start on the office buildings. It's one of the biggest if not the biggest office moves this year.

Westsidelife
June 29th, 2008, 09:22 AM
Playa Vista is a city within a city. It deserves its own Metro stop. If it had that and more retail, it'd be more urban and less manufactured.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/2602011505_b8f1c5bb1c_b.jpg
From Flickr, by lacurbed

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2602844914_b25d4f68d1_b.jpg
From Flickr, by lacurbed

milquetoast
June 29th, 2008, 09:35 AM
^^ Belkin, huh? Welcome, macross... and now it's time to tell us more. Including, where you at?

phattonez
June 29th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Westy, Playa Vista is close to the kind of new development we need in LA (and by new development, I mean in the city, not fringe development). Playa Vista should have more mixed-use buildings, should be centered around a Metro stop, and should have actually decreased the size of those roads (traffic calming) instead of widening them.

The Baz
June 29th, 2008, 10:34 PM
Well the metro stop is beyond possible seeing that the westside is not serviced ... at all. :(

The Baz
June 29th, 2008, 10:38 PM
Belkin just signed a lease at Playa Vista for their HQ campus. Construction breaking ground now to start on the office buildings. It's one of the biggest if not the biggest office moves this year.

I think this is what omg was posting about.

http://www.campusatplayavista.com

Breaking ground now unlike the Horizon office park at Playa that has been under construction for over a year now.

http://www.globest.com/newspics/los_tishman_playa_vista.jpg

http://www.globest.com/news/1188_1188/losangeles/171933-1.html

LOS ANGELES-Tishman Speyer has kicked off construction of the 325,000-sf, four-building first phase of its 1.6-million-sf, 64-acre Campus at Playa Vista, which Tishman is building in a joint venture with Walton Street Capital LLC. Los Angeles-based electronics firm Belkin International has signed for 150,000 sf of office space for a new headquarters at the new campus, where the first phase of construction is slated to be completed in late 2009.

The developers are aiming for LEED Gold certification for the Campus at Playa Vista buildings, which are being designed by Gensler and will be surrounded by 20 acres of park space. Upon completion of all phases, the 1.6 million sf at the campus will include the redevelopment of more than 500,000 sf of historic buildings. Financing for the development is being provided by California National Bank.

new corporate headquarters for Belkin will consolidate the company’s operations from elsewhere in the Los Angeles area. Belkin was represented by Scott Chalmers, president of Kenrick Ventures Inc.

Located in the eastern portion of Playa Vista, the Campus at Playa Vista is adjacent to the intersection of Jefferson Boulevard and Centinela Avenue in West Los Angeles. The site includes a historic district built by Howard Hughes that was home to the Hughes Aircraft Co.

Each building will include four stories of class A office space above two levels of podium parking. The top floor of each building will have a landscaped deck/green roof with a 1,000-sf patio for tenant use. In addition, tenants will have access to three 9,000-sf landscaped patios connecting the buildings.

The approximately 20 acres of new parks that will surround the buildings will feature landscaped gardens, various athletic courts and fields, a skateboarding park, a performance band shell and water features. Playa Vista, the first mixed-use community to be built in West Los Angeles in the last 50 years, already includes retail and housing, with about 6,500 residents. Its is situated between Marina Del Rey and Westchester, about a mile from the beach.

phattonez
June 29th, 2008, 11:56 PM
Well the metro stop is beyond possible seeing that the westside is not serviced ... at all. :(

If Playa Vista got a stop it would be a Lincoln Line, and the only job centers along or near that route would be Santa Monica and LAX/El Segundo. If you want them to get downtown (or Century City or the Miracle Mile), you would need to build on Culver Blvd (on the old ROW), but that's not gonna happen for a long time.

Fern~Fern*
June 30th, 2008, 08:00 AM
Never in a million years will PV mean anything other than Palos Verdes!!!



^ Oh my!!!!!

svs get a grip of yourself :nuts: If it makes you feel better then let it be!

milquetoast
June 30th, 2008, 08:01 AM
Fern Ferns, don't mess ...:)

omgitsroy326
July 17th, 2008, 08:25 AM
FOX Network = )