information:Five contractors were invited to offer proposals for the Kingdom Tower and a short list of three firms submitted final offers for the tower construction. The Saudi Bin Laden Group (SBG) whose offer was the most attractive in terms of price, quality and schedule was chosen for the project.
With a total construction area of over 500,000 square meters, the soaring Kingdom Tower will be a mixed-use building featuring a Four Seasons hotel, Four Seasons serviced apartments, first class office space, luxury condominiums and an observatory that will be higher than the world’s current highest observation deck. The overall construction cost of the tower is SR4.6 billion ($1.2 billion) and the overall estimated cost of the entire Kingdom City project is anticipated to be SR75 billion ($20 billion).


A diagram comparing a 1000m version of Kingdom Tower to other supertalls:

http://i52.tinypic.com/2lcu1j4.jpg
Source: Gizmodo, http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2011/08/building-comparison-gizmodo.jpg


New renderings (as of August 1st 2011):

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/584/clipboard01rr.jpg

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1919/clipboard02it.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1756/clipboard03c.jpg

The observation platform at approximately 675m+
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1701/clipboard04n.jpg

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3003/clipboard05l.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9181/clipboard06h.jpg

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8079/clipboard07b.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9628/clipboard08p.jpg

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/9467/clipboard09d.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9697/clipboard10t.jpg

Source: Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture - http://smithgill.com/#/news/kingdom_tower_announcement/


Architect's article (http://smithgill.com/media/pdfs/Kingdom_for_web4.pdf):
Kingdom Tower - Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

At over 1,000 meters (3,280 feet) and a total construction area of
530,000 square meters (5.7 million square feet), Kingdom Tower will
be the centerpiece and fi rst construction phase of the $20 billion
Kingdom City development in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, near the Red
Sea.

Expected to cost $1.2 billion to construct, Kingdom Tower will be a mixed-use building featuring a luxury hotel, offi ce
space, serviced apartments, luxury condominiums and the world’s highest observatory. Kingdom Tower’s height will
be at least 173 meters (568 feet) taller than Burj Khalifa, which was designed by Adrian Smith while at Skidmore,
Owings & Merrill.

AS+GG’s design for Kingdom Tower is both highly technological and distinctly organic. With its slender, subtly
asymmetrical massing, the tower evokes a bundle of leaves shooting up from the ground—a burst of new life that
heralds more growth all around it. This symbolizes the tower as a catalyst for increased development around it.
The sleek, streamlined form of the tower was inspired by the folded fronds of young desert plant growth. The way
the fronds sprout upward from the ground as a single form, then start separating from each other at the top, is an
analogy of new growth fused with technology. While the design is contextual to Saudi Arabia, it also represents an
evolution and a refi nement of an architectural continuum of skyscraper design. The three-petal footprint is ideal for
residential units, and the tapering wings produce an aerodynamic shape that helps reduce structural loading due to
wind vortex shedding. The Kingdom Tower design embraces its architectural pedigree, taking full advantage of the
proven design strategies and technological strategies of its lineage, refi ning and advancing them to achieve new
heights.

The result is an elegant, cost-effi cient and highly constructible design that is at once grounded in built tradition and
aggressively forward-looking, taking advantage of new and innovative thinking about technology, building materials,
life-cycle considerations and energy conservation. For example, the project will feature a high-performance exterior
wall system that will minimize energy consumption by reducing thermal loads. In addition, each of Kingdom Tower’s
three sides features a series of notches that create pockets of shadow that shield areas of the building from the sun
and provide outdoor terraces with stunning views of Jeddah and the Red Sea.

The great height of Kingdom Tower necessitates one of the world’s most sophisticated elevator systems. The
Kingdom Tower complex will contain 59 elevators, including 54 single-deck and fi ve double-deck elevators, along
with 12 escalators. Elevators serving the observatory will travel at a rate of 10 meters per second in both directions.
Another unique feature of the design is a sky terrace, roughly 30 meters (98 feet) in diameter, at level 157. It is an
outdoor amenity space intended for use by the penthouse floor.

The area surrounding Kingdom Tower is known as the Kingdom Tower Waterfront District. Designed by AS+GG,
the 23-hectare Waterfront District provides a cohesive and pedestrian-friendly setting for the magnifi cent
Kingdom Tower while creating a pleasant neighborhood experience nestled along the Kingdom City lakefront. The
Kingdom Tower Waterfront District encompasses a high-end shopping mall and additional development parcels
that accommodate commercial and high-density residential uses, offi ces, two luxury hotels and high-quality open
spaces, including the central Tower Plaza. A serene waterfront promenade connects Kingdom Tower, the various
development parcels, the open space areas and the mall together. The result is an exciting mixed-use area that
offers a concentrated and comprehensive experience including vibrant shopping, entertainment and open-space
amenities. The Waterfront District also provides an array of connections to other areas within Kingdom City’s overall
master plan, designed by HOK Architects.

The Waterfront District is subdivided into 13 development parcels, the largest of which are the Kingdom Tower
parcel of about 90,000 square meters and the mall parcel of about 65,000 sm. Smaller mixed-use parcels of between
5,000 sm and 10,000 sm are arranged in two development precincts, North and South, each with its own unifying
palette of materials. The parcel sizes vary depending on the density of each site; the larger sites are farther away
from Kingdom Tower, with the smaller sites stepping closer to the tower, creating the effect of an architectural
amphitheater around the structure. Views of Kingdom Tower from throughout the District—including the sensitively
designed 20- to 60-story buildings around the tower—are spectacular. The buildings closest to the tower are of lower
heights, ensuring that the outer buildings also have access to views of Kingdom Tower.
Source: http://smithgill.com/media/pdfs/Kingdom_for_web4.pdf


The site: Set of photos showing the construction site by the end of 2011 / beginning of 2012 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=87261736&postcount=3092) (official construction start scheduled for 1st of January 2012)

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2333/kingdomtower024r.jpg
Source: Azam, user of the aqarcity forum


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Old Rendering:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NsggaFY5xJM/TaxcnzKz2RI/AAAAAAAAAiw/Zzug7-UuaCs/s1600/3.jpg


In July this was posted on the Saudi forum:

http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=41&photo=MainPhoto&table=tblProject
Exploring urban issues facing 21st century, The Mile High Tower offers a fresh perspective on an idea that has been debated by architects for a century"1 mile =1600 M:banana: . Exploding land values, growing populations and expanding economies are placing extraordinary burdens on many culturally rich, but land deprived Asian regions. In response to these pressures we have proposed a vertical city. In conceiving the tower as a vertical city, the design team has integrated technological, architectural and urban planning strategies into a single structure that breathes with urban complexity. The scale of the building and the scope of the program force the reevaluation of current skyscraper precedents for form, purpose, infrastructure, transportation, structure, and sustainability.

Architecture and engineering have traditionally treated structure as static—the building frame was constructed to be strong and heavy enough to resist all anticipated loads. The Mile High Tower proposes a lighter, dynamic structural system that actively responds to forces placed upon it. Controlled by wind detecting sensors, stabilizing aileron-like fins run the length of the tower frame and modulate their position to control resonant motion and building drift.

The separation of the structural frame and the building envelope enhances the quality of the interior space by providing an abundance of natural light and ventilation. Equipped with wind generators, photovoltaic panels, a heliostat, and sewage treatment facilities, the tower attains a high degree of sustainability with minimal environmental impact.

Approaching the tower as a theoretical project has proven liberating, freeing the design team to seek new solutions to technical problems, to find creative approaches outside the present financial climate, and to implement environmentally sustainable strategies that will enhance the next generation of ultra-high rise buildings. Our paradigm is the human body. This near-future tower incorporates structural and climatic systems that, like the human body, respond dynamically and efficiently to forces placed upon them.

Pickard Chilton company have done the skyscraper design, plus other specialized engineering firms for structural, infrastructure and traffic design, cost and time planning!!
http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=41&photo=SideLeftPhoto&table=tblProject


http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=122&photo=Image&table=tblProjectDetail


http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=123&photo=Image&table=tblProjectDetail


http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=124&photo=Image&table=tblProjectDetail

I think my first thread is the best one for this month:lol:
just joking....:)

sorry guys that what I got tell now,but hopefully I'm gonna got more images soon from inside the "company" and I'll post it straight away>>
BTW the 3rd image it's comparing between the mile tower and the twin tower in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia ,because the design has done by the same company "Pickard Chilton"

I have some points to clear out:
*)this "monster" is not standing alone, there is two other towers connected to it at the hight of 170 M by two bridges. ( these two towers will give this huge tower some kind of stability. "you can check that in the 3rd image"
*)Kingdom holding group retained HOK to do the master plan for the project and the soil test in the location,and they approved a super tall in the project.
*)estimates that the total investment potential that will be generated by this project will be in excess of SR 55 billion:
-around 15 % from that number for the super tall land mark ,around SR 8 billion= $ 2 billion.
-SR 400 million for the water canal(5 Km) around the project land "from the red sea on the west to the Abhur creek on the south of the project location"and the result for that is a new island on the north of abhur creek well change the map of Jeddah,and it will help the natural life in abhur creek.
*)SR 42 billion "$ 11 billion" several commercial towers, residential units, retail space, office space, a beach resort, hotels and an education campus.
I hope this informations well clear some of your inquiries :)




Now we get this:



Kingdom Company (KHC) Announced Bechtel as the Chosen Company to Supervise the Construction of the Massive Jeddah Project, Investment Value Estimated at SR50 billion
(17/09/2007)

Project Master plan received by Pickard Chilton

Click To Enlarge Kingdom Holding Company, Chaired by HRH Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, announced today Monday 17th September 2007, that Bechtel (BEKtl) company was chosen to supervise and develop the real estate project in Jeddah. Bechtel company was chosen out of seven other companies that were in a competitive bid to supervise and develop the Jeddah project.

Bechtel is a global engineering, construction and project management company with more than a century of experience on complex projects in challenging locations especially in Saudi. Privately owned with headquarters in San Francisco, they have 40 offices around the world and nearly 40,000 employees.

Kingdom Holding Company received the Jeddah Project Master plan from Pickard Chilton, reputable and renowned designers who have designed some of the world’s significant and recognizable buildings, including Kingdom Center recognized by its iconic tower.

The Jeddah project, one of the major real estate projects planned by Kingdom Holding Company, and other projects in Riyadh, has an area of 5.3 million square meters and is located in the city's northern area on the Red Sea coastline, which is a strategic area for the development of this project. The investment value of the project is estimated at SR50 billion upon completion, comprising of a colossal sky scraper with a surrounding area for other facilities (residential, commercial, construction of a five star hotel and offices). The residential area will be 1.5 million square meters, the size of the commercial area will be 470,000 square meters, education vicinity with an area of 150,000 square meters and the size of the offices area will be 800,000 square meters. The remaining lands will be utilized for leisure facilities, tourism and the construction of four star hotels.

Furthermore, there are plans for the development of a diplomatic quarter on the Jeddah land. The site plans for the land were developed by HOK, a Canadian company that has world wide recognition. The project will also connect the Red Sea coastline of the area to Sharm Obhur, an environment of natural beauty. KHC is also currently in cooperation with the Jeddah municipality and other administrations to ensure that all the appropriate requirements are met for the success of the project. KHC is known for the high quality of their real estate projects that have won international awards.


http://kingdom.com.sa/upload/images/press/HRH_170907_Full.jpg


http://kingdom.com.sa/index.asp?id=73&prlsid=33

....Wow.....just wow.





wow.



This is crazy.

So how many storeys is this gonna be??

Wow, i have heard of this plan before but always thought it was just a vision and it will stay a vision. But now it looks like this is actually a serious plan!

And by the way, comparing the height of the tower in the model to the entire masterplan and also google earth, that tower is definitely around a mile high.
These images do the explanation:


http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/888/mile1bh8.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8720/mile2he7.jpg

The model is like 3ft higher than the surrounding buildings. This thing would be looming over everyone.....probably will feel like its following you :ohno:

1600m


*faints*

Oh boy. And they used to compete over a couple dozen of meters once...

Jesus, that is absolutely mental.

i dont trust that will be constructed

obviously!!!

Wow i just realized that this is tower is actually twice as high as Burj Dubai:nuts:

:drool:
i think i just had a seizure.

I heard Chuck Norris is the secret Architect behind this project. He will also be the only Engineer and the Interior Designer. He will be the only one that will construct this building so that he will get all the money. He will steal all Saudi Arabia's Oil Reserves if this will not be approve.

Oh my god!? Twice the height of Burj Dubai!? I can't believe they are serious with this!

This will be amazing if it comes to fruition. I have doubts, as I'm sure others do, but then alot of people doubted the Burj at first!:banana:

Good on you guys! Get it built! I will certainly visit!

WOW 1600 meters..

This certainly looks better than burj!:banana:

It will be amazing if they build the tower.

frank loyd wrights design for a mile high tower was much better !

taller and taller.

This tower is 3 times higher than Burj Dubai now :eek2::eek2::eek2:!!!

3 times higher??

3 times higher??
He wrote "now", so I presume he means the current height of BD (under construction).

555m x 3 = 1665m ~ 1609m (one mile). Little difference...

only proposed for now...

frank loyd wrights design for a mile high tower was much better !In what way/s?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illinois

Yeah, "Wow" everyone, "wow" :|

The stuctural engineering/design blurbs on this are interesting.

...

WOW That's tall! :eek:

lol @ the size of the model.
you would think a mile high skyscraper project would be suffice to ensure a decent size model ,so you can actually see what the tower will look like.
as for the design, looks do-able. will take many years to engineer and construct. any idea when its supposed to start? and finish?

will there be a suite at the top so people can join the "mile high club"? llooll

will there be a suite at the top so people can join the "mile high club"? llooll

:lol:

:omg:

Can you imagine looking up at this tower from the base?? I remember looking up at the WTC when i was 11...and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. This is roughly 4 times taller. What would you all reckon this thing's chances of ACTUALLY getting built are? 20%? 50%?

if any wrong tell me!
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9283/diagramfa3.jpg

if any wrong in high tell me!

The roof of Al Burj is currently set to be 850m, with the spires reaching 1050m, although a render for this model has not been officially released.

:omg: wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

^^ WOW THE NEW GENERATION OF GIGA TALLS, MEGA TALLS, OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM

http://www.pickardchilton.com/pagProject.aspx?Group='RESEARCH'&ID=41&Photo=1

OMG.....unbelieveable.

A mile high tower was once proposed in Chicago back in the 1950's. It was to be called the Illinois Tower, but cost, and obvious construction dangers made it impossible to build (at least 50 years ago).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Theillinois.jpg


If this Mile Tower gets built in Saudi Arabia.......:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

:|



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illinois

Why is this stated as Jeddah? It just says "asia." Also, note the key word, THEORETICAL

Why is this stated as Jeddah? It just says "asia." Also, note the key word, THEORETICAL

Saudi Arabia is in Asia...
But yes, we still don't have confirmed information..

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4132/snapshot2007092004072ec8.jpg

here my vision i posted these pic before one month ago but now i edited ,make it more reality,take it from king road.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/46/imaginationlu3.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imaginationlu3.jpg)

:|

Your point rolley eyes?

lol @ the size of the model.
you would think a mile high skyscraper project would be suffice to ensure a decent size model ,so you can actually see what the tower will look like.
as for the design, looks do-able. will take many years to engineer and construct. any idea when its supposed to start? and finish?
Someone in the Saudi forum said 2008. They said we'd have full sized renders by now but we obviously don't yet

Is this the only tower being build in this area? Does anyone have compilation of other towers being proposed or planned to this site? It's a remarkable project but I wonder what is the reason for this mile tower?

^^someone told me the king road will be skyline as shickh zaid road in dubai.

It's weird to think, that in about 5 years time, the skyscraper world capital will not be Hong Kong, New York or Chicago, but Dubai - they'll have more supertalls and more 200m+ buildings than any of the above three - indeed, they'll have more supertalls than Hong Kong, New York and Chicago put together.

And then you have the rest of Saudi Arabia competing...

Exploring urban issues facing 21st century Asia, The Mile High Tower offers a fresh perspective on an idea that has been debated by architects for a century.

What I saw was words like 'exploring issues' and 'fresh ideas'. Sounds very vague, but who knows. It brings to mind all those concepts like 'Skycity 1000' or 'X-Seed 4000'. Very interesting to think about but clearly not viable. (but this one maybe?) I'd love to see blueprints/engineering/etc plans for a project like this, it would be fascinating.
Theres a chance it will be built, and I reckon one day we will witness towers that high but for now I just consider it a very interesting thought!

Is this the only tower being build in this area? Does anyone have compilation of other towers being proposed or planned to this site? It's a remarkable project but I wonder what is the reason for this mile tower?
Very much so. It is in a very inappropriate location. North Obhur is the main resort area for Jeddah, there is little commercial or retail potential there. It would've been much better to build it in the city.

^^welcome back bro long time didn't see you.

'Wow' and stuff

but is it at all economical?

It looks awfully lame, and seems like a pipe-dream, but it will become absolutely world-famous should it be built! I can respect it just for being a serious proposal of such height!!

personally i dont like the design much but it'll be gigantic if actually carried out a gigantic project

yikes

Its almost mind-boggling how the Saudis love to blow their money on garbage. This is like those massive airports and stadiums that they built back in the 80's, right before the economy deflated as oil prices fell (since of course, they have nothing else going for their economy than oil rents).


TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY

PS >> If this were a private company developing this project, I wouldn't be so against it, but this is the government's doing. Its a total waste of money. Very typically Saudi.

omg! thats all i can say! its like the future is finally here!

PS >> If this were a private company developing this project, I wouldn't be so against it, but this is the government's doing. Its a total waste of money. Very typically Saudi.

it's a private company...

Big wow.


But have they checked that the moon can actually pass uninterrupted? :)

So how many storeys is this gonna be??

Never ending. Seriously, the only thing I can say about this is, it's not as crazy as a space elevator. Although I like the design.

thats crazy

hmm... it's getting boring. When this one is finished I'm sure someone's going to build 3200 metres.

So how many storeys is this gonna be??

400 + maybe :) ^^

hmm... it's getting boring. When this one is finished I'm sure someone's going to build 3200 metres.

Yup, real boring... not!

A mile high tower was once proposed in Chicago back in the 1950's. It was to be called the Illinois Tower, but cost, and obvious construction dangers made it impossible to build (at least 50 years ago).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Theillinois.jpg


If this Mile Tower gets built in Saudi Arabia.......:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

similar like the Al Habtoor Tower

http://i2.tinypic.com/119azok.jpg

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=8678499#post8678499

I've always seen Burj Dubai as being closer to The Illinois with its wings, like the splinters @ intermediate points split from the sides of The Illinois. But really, Lloyd Wright's is too sketchy anyway to see exact-enough form. 800m (818m) is 1/2 mile too. Co-incidental? mmmm :dunno:

is't Al Habtoor Tower canceled?

pictures for Abhur from plane
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/407782301_6f01401833_b.jpg

Full Size (http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=439195238&size=l)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/439195238_1799c15135.jpg

Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/439195236_8da097e85d_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/164/439195236_8da097e85d.jpg

Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/380228882_031a93c9e0_o.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/380228882_031a93c9e0.jpg

south Abhor
Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/132543950_0d9d161b17_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/47/132543950_0d9d161b17.jpg

End north Abhor & Salman Bay
Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/368639480_5364394aa3_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/368639480_5364394aa3.jpg

Abhor Bay
Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/132544049_142d17b087_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/132544049_142d17b087.jpg

North Abhor
Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/132544648_59d92ffe5d_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/132544648_59d92ffe5d.jpg

North Abhor & Madent Al Bohirat
Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/132544792_a06c4d3c79_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/132544792_a06c4d3c79.jpg

End North Abhor
Full Size (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/132544903_84d314e683_b.jpg)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/132544903_84d314e683.jpg

they said they'll release some information about Al Habtoor Tower in Summer this year....nothing until now

Don't they plan to let that baby rise in Frankfurt? :colgate:

i probably would see it from bavaria :lol:

i dont trust in that tower.
so complicated to build: cost, and obvious construction dangers made it impossible to build

http://www.pickardchilton.com/pagProject.aspx?Group='RESEARCH'&ID=41&Photo=1

Mile High Tower
Asia
12,000,000 gsf
Client Sponsor: Confidential
Structural Engineer: Thornton Tomasetti
MEP Engineer: Flack & Kurtz
Vertical Transportation: Otis Research Development
Landscape Architect: Towers / Golde
Status: Research Project



Exploring urban issues facing 21st century Asia, The Mile High Tower offers a fresh perspective on an idea that has been debated by architects for a century. Exploding land values, growing populations and expanding economies are placing extraordinary burdens on many culturally rich, but land deprived Asian regions. In response to these pressures we have proposed a vertical city. In conceiving the tower as a vertical city, the design team has integrated technological, architectural and urban planning strategies into a single structure that breathes with urban complexity. The scale of the building and the scope of the program force the reevaluation of current skyscraper precedents for form, purpose, infrastructure, transportation, structure, and sustainability.


Architecture and engineering have traditionally treated structure as static—the building frame was constructed to be strong and heavy enough to resist all anticipated loads. The Mile High Tower proposes a lighter, dynamic structural system that actively responds to forces placed upon it. Controlled by wind detecting sensors, stabilizing aileron-like fins run the length of the tower frame and modulate their position to control resonant motion and building drift.


The separation of the structural frame and the building envelope enhances the quality of the interior space by providing an abundance of natural light and ventilation. Equipped with wind generators, photovoltaic panels, a heliostat, and sewage treatment facilities, the tower attains a high degree of sustainability with minimal environmental impact.


Approaching the tower as a theoretical project has proven liberating, freeing the design team to seek new solutions to technical problems, to find creative approaches outside the present financial climate, and to implement environmentally sustainable strategies that will enhance the next generation of ultra-high rise buildings. Our paradigm is the human body. This near-future tower incorporates structural and climatic systems that, like the human body, respond dynamically and efficiently to forces placed upon them.

i dont trust in that tower.
so complicated to build: cost, and obvious construction dangers made it impossible to build

say never never :)

I love tall buildings, the taller the better...

But this will never get built.
Too far fetched, not practical and is merely someone's ego put on paper.
It's going to be The Illinois part 2.

to give you idea of scale in this pic.
those smaller towers are 300m high,which is a supertall. lol

http://www.pickardchilton.com/GetImage.aspx?id=41&photo=MainPhoto&table=tblProject

can this tower be bult in first place end
is this bulding going to get bult is there eney proof of that ?

wow

thats massive, whats next

I should start saving money now so I can get a piece of this behemoth and call it home. :)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7648/thetoweraftereditedcu1.jpg

Would be pretty neat, but why do I get the feeling this will be like the Japanese proposals for city sized mile high skyscrapers that have been around for a decade, i.e. a pipe dream that never materializes?

Its almost mind-boggling how the Saudis love to blow their money on garbage. This is like those massive airports and stadiums that they built back in the 80's, right before the economy deflated as oil prices fell (since of course, they have nothing else going for their economy than oil rents).


TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY

Actually much of their infrastructure is falling short these days that they built in the early 80's the country's population has grown so quickly that they really need another era of construction and investment into almost every sector of their economy.

we will do not need spaceship any more
we can just build our buildings taller and taller
HEHE
:nuts:

to give you idea of scale in this pic.
those smaller towers are 300m high,which is a supertall. lol

simply awesome, difficult to imagine in reality

simply awesome, difficult to imagine in reality

Why? There's plenty of 300m towers about.

;)

not because of the 300m towers....because of the 1600m thing ^^

build a 1km high tower first, and see how that plans out economically, then plan a 1mile tower.

i'm sure al burj or Mubarak Tower will be build first

The Mile High Tower proposes a lighter, dynamic structural system that actively responds to forces placed upon it. Controlled by wind detecting sensors, stabilizing aileron-like fins run the length of the tower frame and modulate their position to control resonant motion and building drift.

So what happens if the "sensors" malfunction.
Does the building fall down.
No thanks.

thats massive, whats next

escalator to the moon.

It brings to mind all those concepts like 'Skycity 1000' or 'X-Seed 4000'.

I just simply love sky city 1000, its was a very interesting concept but abeit too big.



I remember reading this somewhere in the net regarding the design of this skycity


14 hexagonal plates of "skypod" each consisting of 14 stories and average of 4m per floor (total no. of floors 196) soaring up the sky in a conical frame structure

Each pod has a 56m height and 12m of gap in between and the lowest pod is about 60m above ground. Hence total height is brought up to 1000m exactly


60+[13x(56+12)]+56 = 1000m

This is some crazy sci-fi fantasy, but 1600m still isn't that tall. Tall for this generation but taller have been envisioned, with the 4,000m X-seed 4000 at 800 floors. What next, 10,000m buildings in the next century, space scrapers?!

OMFG !!!! Hope this project become reality so soon !!!

:lol: spacescrapers. nice :banana:

I don't see any good economic basis for this project.

can someone render this next to current supertalls

i noted that kingdom tower are similar to the small towers from this angle,what do y think?
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3023/dsc07580pm9.jpg

Doesn't mean anything though ??

I dont understand what your suggesting?

:lol: spacescrapers. nice :banana:

mabe in 500 years ^^

That's H.U.G.E !!! But i still love the Burj Dubai, for the moment ::lol:

Is this even needed? The surrounding area of this city isn't even built up yet.

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Oh my God. The future is here..

there have been proposals like this more than 50 years ago like frank lloyd wright's masterpiece "the illinois":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illinois

i guess also jeddah's mile high tower won't get build, they just don't need it!

The height is really cool but I don't like the design

^^ yeah, It reminds me Imperial city in Oblivion :lol:

but I think its impossible to build buildings like this

I just measured in Google Earth how much 1600 metres really is.

In New York it´s from Columbus Circle to Bryant Parlk:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7565/j01bk1.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j01bk1.jpg)

In Chicago it´s from River East Center to 333 West Wacker:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5426/j02pt9.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j02pt9.jpg)

In Hong Kong it´s from 2IFC to Central Plaza:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2861/j03wu8.th.jpg (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j03wu8.jpg)

i like Burj Dubai

lets wait and see how is one turn out to be

Id like an answer to this if anyone knows. Anyone know the actual height of towers in the new star wars movies? Some of those looked really really tall.

Id like an answer to this if anyone knows. Anyone know the actual height of towers in the new star wars movies? Some of those looked really really tall.

as far as i know in star wars they reach far over 2000m

Wow! looks cool.

Lets wait and see if that happens... but Jeddah seems an unlikely place for a building that tall, no? I mean there must be an accomodation crisis there but one would expect loads of flats, hostels etc rather than a mile-high building for luxurious living as these won't come cheap.

:dunno:

Jeddah is also improving its skyline as it is the commercial capital of saudi arabia like dubai of UAE

Wow! looks cool.

Lets wait and see if that happens... but Jeddah seems an unlikely place for a building that tall, no? I mean there must be an accomodation crisis there but one would expect loads of flats, hostels etc rather than a mile-high building for luxurious living as these won't come cheap.

:dunno:

In fact, the Jeddah municipality now plans in five regions to make them base for skyline.

as far as i know in star wars they reach far over 2000m

The best part was in episode 2 attack of the clones, there was this part they were talking in a lift or something, despite the speed of the super evelator, it was long enough for them to finish the conversation just by travelling down.

escalator to the moon.

There's already a lot of people trying to find a way to build a space elevator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator).

I like the way this looks really 'Coruscant'. I wish there could be a city where there were hundreds of towers this tall are as dense as a city like HK or NY, but I can't see that happening for a few hundred years yet:(

This looks like a very strong design, I really like it.

how wide would the tower be?

i guess 100m or more

don't forget it's three towers connected in that case it's included in width.

ok that makes probably 500m or so :lol:

i confuse how can they built it?and r they planing to deal with DOKA?just wondering!!!

thats very wide nearly as wide as tiapei 101 is high!

I heard Chuck Norris is the secret Architect behind this project. He will also be the only Engineer and the Interior Designer. He will be the only one that will construct this building so that he will get all the money. He will steal all Saudi Arabia's Oil Reserves if this will not be approve.

All in one day.

All in one day.
all in ten minuets, actually.

this will rlly be build?

nobody knows that until now

thanx
but its very ugly on the "blueprints"

i dunt think it's ugly but not very beautiful either imo

at such heights you can't play arround with the shape and design of a tower as you can do it with a 200m-300m skyscraper i think

Hope this will get built,but I doubt it

I heard Chuck Norris is the secret Architect behind this project. He will also be the only Engineer and the Interior Designer. He will be the only one that will construct this building so that he will get all the money. He will steal all Saudi Arabia's Oil Reserves if this will not be approve.

:lol:


I cannot believe this news.

This is really putting the technology over the edge. Japan before have a lot of proposals for a tall skyscraper but pity that none of them gets build. However, middle asia did not have any research before but they can will all the engineers all over the world to do the impossible. Very Ironic isn't it.

For this project let's see and wait and I'm very excited for the new technology that they will use to stabilized this huge structure.

This is a complete waist of money, there are people starving in Africa and all over the world and they are more interested in spending their money on a frankly pointless tower.

This is really putting the technology over the edge. Japan before have a lot of proposals for a tall skyscraper but pity that none of them gets build. However, middle asia did not have any research before but they can will all the engineers all over the world to do the impossible. Very Ironic isn't it.


what you mention of Japan maybe is explained by this map (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Quake_epicenters_1963-98.png) :banana:

just a couple of shakings over there :lol:

This is a complete waist of money, there are people starving in Africa and all over the world and they are more interested in spending their money on a frankly pointless tower.

Talk about bringing up irrelevant facts.

Kids are molested every day, too. And people have heart attacks. And I broke my PS2 and can't play video games anymore.

Talk about bringing up irrelevant facts.

Kids are molested every day, too. And people have heart attacks. And I broke my PS2 and can't play video games anymore.
that sux...hey wait, im selling a ps2. want another?

^^ Nah, I'm going to scratch some coins together and get a PS3.

^^ Nah, I'm going to scratch some coins together and get a PS3.
nice...thats why im selling my ps2, just bought a ps3.

can we please talk about the Tower and not about the playstation? Back To Topic!!

what's with you middle easterners and tall towers?

what's with you middle easterners and tall towers?
over compensation because of the size of a specific body part? :|

what you mention of Japan maybe is explained by this map (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Quake_epicenters_1963-98.png) :banana:

just a couple of shakings over there :lol:

Taiwan have Taipei 101, there are alot of shakings in Taiwan as well based on that map. but the taiwanese finds a way to build a huge building inspite of their condition lying in a huge fault line. Never think of any structure standing in Japan right now which is closer to taipei 101.

However, I'm not sure if the structures in middle east asia also considers the impact of earthquacke in their strucutres (like magnitude 6 to 7).

^^in this case any 100m tower will collapse .Gulf land is stable.

Interesting concept. I'd laugh if the oil prices crashed and this building got stuck half way.

Interesting concept. I'd laugh if the oil prices crashed and this building got stuck half way.


I dont really think its much of a joke because even if it get stuck halfway it is already very near to threaten BD height.

Interesting concept. I'd laugh if the oil prices crashed and this building got stuck half way.

Unless you in your town find a way to extract the oil from sand for peanuts, the high oil prices are here to stay.

The twins surrounding the main tower need to be taller. The height is fantastic, but I have doubts on anyone actually building it.

Unless you in your town find a way to extract the oil from sand for peanuts, the high oil prices are here to stay.

Nice answer. :)

It´s kinda Insane. :nuts:

nothing surprises me anymore...

This website is called Skyscrapercity. Who ever does not want this to be built, don't post here.

I hope the build this. It is NIMBY and not my money. This would be the legendary mile high building.

I dont really think its much of a joke because even if it get stuck halfway it is already very near to threaten BD height.

Yes, but it would be uninhabitable.

Unless you in your town find a way to extract the oil from sand for peanuts, the high oil prices are here to stay.

Exactly. that's why it is funny to think about.

Oh, and some conversions are needed here.

One mile = 1609 m, not 1600 m.

Wow.

Oh, and some conversions are needed here.

One mile = 1609 m, not 1600 m.

should be no problem to add 9m to this tower :lol:

should be no problem to add 9m to this tower :lol:

But the measurement in feet is correct right? 5281?

But the measurement in feet is correct right? 5281?

A mile is 5280 ft, there is an extra foot in the title.

In fact, the Jeddah municipality now plans in five regions to make them base for skyline.

That's nice to hear :)

Has anyone put this on a diagram to compare?

^^ already done, see previous posts.

^^ already done, see previous posts.http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15454333&postcount=35

is that the only one, or did I miss one? I'd like to see it compared to some completed supertalls like the Sears Tower and other older buildings.

This has always been a bad idea, imagine you have to transport goods from wherever they are made to the tower, then you have to transport them up the tower using a lot of energy. Imagine pumping water to the top floors and moving people constantly up and down. This building will require more electrical power then all the cities in saudi arabia combined already, it's a pipe dream. The middle east should start preparing for life after oil, because these countries have little resources otherwise, even if they aggressivly diversify in industry, they are going to be hurting when the oil age is over.

A mile is 5280 ft, there is an extra foot in the title.

If this is the "Mile High Tower," the title needs to be changed. A mile is 5280 ft, which is 1609 m, not 1600.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15454333&postcount=35

is that the only one, or did I miss one? I'd like to see it compared to some completed supertalls like the Sears Tower and other older buildings.

Yah that's the one i was referring too.. I think it pointless to put it next to the sears tower because as it is, it dwarfs Burj Dubai and makes it look like a midget...

I agree with you about the amount of energy needed to move people... Nevermind even people.. The energy it will require for workers (constructing it) to work with oxygen masks beyond 1000 meter level... Nonetheless, i think
This building will require more electrical power then all the cities in saudi arabia combined
is far fetched.

If this is the "Mile High Tower," the title needs to be changed. A mile is 5280 ft, which is 1609 m, not 1600.

Don't worry the thread will eventually be closed anyway, chances of this tower being built is slim to none.

And for the record everyone can count, who cares about a 9.3 meter difference!

I will believe this when it's built.

I agree with you about the amount of energy needed to move people... Nevermind even people.. The energy it will require for workers (constructing it) to work with oxygen masks beyond 1000 meter level... Nonetheless, i think

is far fetched.

They will not need oxygen masks at that altitude, unless this is on a high plateau like where Denver or Lhasa is located.

If one more person talks about oxygen masks at 1000 meters I'm going to rip out my hair. Come on guys don't be ridiculous.

i have been 4,000 metres up the alps and didn't need a oxygen mask. Didn't see anyone gasping for air either in the restaurant built at the top of the mountain :lol:

back on topic, this is just mad, would love to see it built though

YES PLEASE!!!

We had enough of this ignorant crap in the Al Burj thread.

Hmmm....maybe there is some connection with fantasy buildings that will never happen and ignorance of basic science. :lol:

In fact, I'll close it now and reopen it when more news comes out

This was posted a few minutes ago in the Saudi forum.

anyway,the same guy who's working for the KHG sent me this images.and I don't have to say much,the photos are enough
-this is the master plan for the project:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3fb70dfaf3.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

-this is a view for the canal:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/54ca428f11.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)


_the tower's marina:
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/9798e2228a.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

and as he told me the work is gonna starts as soon as "Bechtel" will finish their office in Jeddah witch is suppose to be on the first days of February
btw,this rendering is by HOK so it must be with a good dimensions ;)

http://aycu19.webshots.com/image/38138/2000820259656418338_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000820259656418338)

wow, impressive! but the tower doesn't look like 1600m in the renders....more like 1000

yes it looks like it but its acctully 1600m ! 1MILE !!!!!! that out does the 1kilometers !!

great work jeddah you might aswell become better than dubai !

http://www.kingdom.com.sa/index.asp?id=63&invid=23

http://ikuwait.blogspot.com/2007/10/tallest-building-in-world.html

http://dotsson.blogspot.com/2007/10/saudi-arabia-building-worlds-tallest.html

http://kingdom.com.sa/index.asp?id=73&prlsid=33


http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4132/snapshot2007092004072ec8.jpg
SOURCE: http://urbanity.es/foro/showthread.php?t=3187

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile_High_Tower

is there any date for construction start yet?

I like it. Its amazing project.

what sort of materials are they going to use for this build, would it be a muilti use tower or anything else. world record stair climb for the future?

i think they will not only use steel and concrete. probably also carbon

Oh no BECHTEL will build this. Expect 20 years and tens of billions of dollars spent just to see a crappy end-product. :ohno:

the stylish project :banana: I like it :D good luck! :cheers:

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i love there masterplan, it's pretty nice
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3fb70dfaf3.jpg

Hahaha this is a funny joke.....:lol:

Something this big will be built, its just a question of when!...

Oh no BECHTEL will build this. Expect 20 years and tens of billions of dollars spent just to see a crappy end-product. :ohno:

Bechtel is responsible of management, It will have the ability to choose the contractor of each canal, building or skyscraper but it does not have the contracting staff there... Just the management and planning.

^^ Still, them controlling everything is not promissing at all.

if any wrong tell me!
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9283/diagramfa3.jpg

The Burj Dubai looks so small omg....if that omega tall building gets built idk...thats like 3 sears towers.....Gasp

for some reason i don't see it happening... but to dream is to ...nah forget it.

wow! what an ugly ass tower,very uninspiring with a golden cheesy facade.this doesnt look like 1600m look at those buildings at the base they look hardly 20 stories.and the masterplan looks like a rip off of the burj downtown..........a lake again,yet very tacky planning.they made us wait so long and came with crap like this.:ohno:

If they can front the cash and have the determination....I say let em' build it. Look back 10 years and tell someone there would be a Burj Dubai at over 800m and they would laugh in your face.

Never say never.

The would have a long way to go to begin such a project but hey you never know.

Alright..keep denying !! I can assure you that you will see this monster on ground soon...

^^i hope so,but with a better design:)

this would be an aesthetic build. Completely uneconomical, but it would be rather impressive.

:nuts:

This is Amazing...I hope they will build it.:cheers:

I think the masterplan looks pretty good. Seems like something like dubai marina with the extra tower. Is that tower design even the final one?

never gonna happen...

don't be so sure :)

it will get build, when fish rides a bicycle

OMG!! too much!

Really great building.....................

this project has as much chance of being built as
the americans building a 250 mile tower to access the
international space station by elevator!

^^ didnt you hear?
We're building that next week. ;)

^^ WTF stop trolling this thread guys ! malec yes this is the final design :D

the footings would have to be so deep.

The foundations would have to go to the earths core. :)

What is Jeddah?

What is Jeddah?

It's on the planet right next to Dagobah. It's where Yoda's vacation house is.

:nuts:

Is Yoda supposed to move to this tower?

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Hmmm? years ago men went to space in a rocket...now they say...hey man..the lifts over there!

Is Yoda supposed to move to this tower?


of course, he'll own the top 20 floors!!




:D

The foundations would have to go to the earths core. :)

Wouldn't that melt the foundation though? The reason this building may not be built soon is that they haven't found out how to build a foundation that could stand the heat from the earth's core.

In all seriousness, such a project is not out of reach within the next 10 years and maybe sooner. Only time will tell. There has to be some serious progress to want to build so high to get Jeddah on the international map as the U.A.E. did with BD.

If they front the ca$h then they will build it. Oil money can easily pay for this since such a project in itself is not economically viable.

I hope they build it as a monument to engineering achievment. If they wanted and achieved to land on the moon, they can build up a mile.

Go Jeddah!

Ahhhh. It's stunning! Looks much better than Al Burj. BUILD IT! :)

Build it!.... lol NAWT! j/k

[QUOTE=beyond 1000;17074846The reason this building may not be built soon is that they haven't found out how to build a foundation that could stand the heat from the earth's core.
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You can't be serious. No foundation will need to go that deep, not even for a 10 mile high tower

What is Jeddah?
It's a type of cheese.......... :lol: ;)

crazy.. lol :D

I don't get this...

For those who don't know, Jeddah is a city in Saudi Arabia with population ~3 million.

I think this is a picture of it? Right?

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/888/mile1bh8.jpg

Even if that is the edge of the city, which it probably is, it's safe to say the city won't be crowded or looking for land to expand anytime soon.

Wouldn't you put a big building, designed (and heavily invested in) to overcome land shortage, in some place more crowded and with less available land? just a thought.

Even if that is the edge of the city, which it probably is, it's safe to say the city won't be crowded or looking for land to expand anytime soon.

Wouldn't you put a big building, designed (and heavily invested in) to overcome land shortage, in some place more crowded and with less available land? just a thought.
Thats exactly it. This is the problem i notice with a lot of the middle-eastern cities. They want to gain some serious recognition, so they build a bunch of ridiculously tall and large buildings, when it turns out that there is little demand for them to begin with (no matter what they tell you). This is why a lot of the housing market in Dubai is essentially turning into a stock market. People buy the housing units to sell them later, with no intention on living in them.

Well I wouldn't say that it is a problem of all middle-eastern cities as zdaddy233 said but of course I have the same opinion as you two. But in fact Dubai is something different. Maktoum had made Dubai to a brand in the world. If you talk about much money, skyscrapers etc you will talk about Dubai. The difference and problem which I see for Jeddah is that the city is nothing like Dubai. Dubai will be especially a city with a lot of foreign rich people. What will be Jeddah? Also the political system in Saudi Arabia is tougher than in UAE to get to Arabia is what I've read and heard also pretty difficult. I mean the bureaucracy stuff, not how to get there!

The only oppurtunity I see is that they will try to make this place interessting for their own people. 40% of the people there are under 15 years old (wikipedia). Otherwise they will try to get foreigners there. Thats what I only think about as they don't will/want change their political system.

But I also want to say something about the building. It is great that something like this is planned, it would be a new step in the architecture. But the design looks a bit weird for me. Not ugly but you just can't describe it. :lol:

I can not believe it, 1609 meters ... It is very high to be true ... It is simply incredible.

I don't even want this tower built because it will take forever to construct.

not forever but probably between 10 and 15 years

How long is the Burj being built? The Jeddah would probably take 2x longer.

they started in february 2004 with the burj dubai and will be finished probably june 2009 or later. so we've 5-6 years. you've to calculate with more than 12 years i think

This will never be built. This is just one way of getting world's attention. That height is ridiculous! I don't think I would even like to live 1590 meters above the ground level.

world full with ridiculous stuffs, i hope it will get built.

It is only cost effective to build up to a certain height and after that height, which is say 1000 or slightly higher, the building becomes inefficient and a waste of money. Assuming someone did build this tower, it would be a massive waste of money over its lifespan. It will not be built unless the financiers do not care about making money off of it.

if they have the money they will build it.

yeah the money everybody in the gulf has enough money :D lol

i still believe that tower will be build. just remember how many people didn't believe that the BD will ever be build :)

If construction takes more than 12 years (which I definately think) a company must not only have enough money but also be very very strong (think of increasing material costs, changing wishes due to the environment etc.) and be extremely sure of the success of it so.... Once they will build it ;)

It is possible I could be wrong, but people with money tend to use it to make more money, not to throw it away. If the tower will be profitable, it will be built. If it will not, and I seriously doubt with its height that this is possible, only those willing to throw money away to make a statement (which is possible) will pay for it.

They better build those skyscrapers fast, because their oil reserves will soon be empty.

They better build those skyscrapers fast, because their oil reserves will soon be empty.

No offense... This statement always makes me laugh.. People that always like to say "their oil reserves will soon be empty" must be living in a cave and wont be effected for shortage of oil.

If gulf run out of oil; the west/Europe will get phucked.

Enjoy winter time.

Why not?

I don't get this...

For those who don't know, Jeddah is a city in Saudi Arabia with population ~3 million.

I think this is a picture of it? Right?

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/888/mile1bh8.jpg

Even if that is the edge of the city, which it probably is, it's safe to say the city won't be crowded or looking for land to expand anytime soon.

Wouldn't you put a big building, designed (and heavily invested in) to overcome land shortage, in some place more crowded and with less available land? just a thought.

I've been to Jeddah but I dont know the areas by name, but this is the main city:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/33-4.jpg

Top of the picture is the Airport, bottom is the Seaport, dont know what that area is thats highlighted in your post.

they started in february 2004 with the burj dubai and will be finished probably june 2009 or later. so we've 5-6 years. you've to calculate with more than 12 years i think

12 years+, not so sure about that; ESB took less than 1 year and that in the 1930s, have we really gone backwards that much

you can't compare ESB with that project.

remember esb was 76 years ago.

its crazy to think that this could be 3* taller then the freedom tower. wow

never thought about that fact.....that gives an good idea about the height :nuts:

Ya esa torre es una grosería :lol:

12 years+, not so sure about that; ESB took less than 1 year and that in the 1930s, have we really gone backwards that much

Yeah, but ESB was build during the great depression when people were desperate to work even for a slice of bread.

I've been to Jeddah but I dont know the areas by name, but this is the main city:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/33-4.jpg

Top of the picture is the Airport, bottom is the Seaport, dont know what that area is thats highlighted in your post.

I was looking for the same thing...

any recent news?

Wow.