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Olympique Lyonnais

7x League:
2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006,
2007, 2008

4x Cup Winner:
1964, 1967, 1973, 2008

1x League Cup:
2001

7x Supercup: (record)
1973, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005,
2006, 2007






Here's the first pictures of "OL Land". This new stadium should be open in 2010:

- 60,000 seats
- 1 hotel
- 1 office building
- Olympique Lyonnais headquarters
- Training area
- Museum

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueGrandStadeSO.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueAerienneNuit.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueAerienneJour.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/Entree.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueInterieure.jpg

Very good investment by Lyon in these facilities, the design is good to, i like both the interior and exterior a lot.

nice concept..very creative..but too much clutter.

I quite like the interior, but I'm not a fan of the outside. It seems like it's trying too hard to be special.

What will happen to the current stadium?

Looks great indeed but I don't like the roof.
You're right Ipio.

We're talking about it for so much time that it's a great pleasure to finally have the pix.
Thank you very much!

Beautiful stadium, its big because the OL is big. Congratulations...

Anything more on the concept? Who did it, etc?
For me- smashing. In a positive way.

IT LOOKS A NIIIIIIICE!

do they need 60,000?

Great news for Lyon, they need such invest to get closer with the biggest clubs. :cheers:

IT LOOKS A NIIIIIIICE!

No, it's in Lyon

;)

I quite like the interior, but I'm not a fan of the outside. It seems like it's trying too hard to be special.
are you talking about the club or the stadium? :D



What will happen to the current stadium?

I think Gerland will be used by the LOU the local rugby club, and for other events.


It's a nice stadium, it's a good thing that most stadiums in France are going to be upgraded by the next 10 years

it was worth waiting for, looks very good.
can the actual infrastructure handle the thousands of cars when a game is played?

HOK is behind it as usual.
And yes it's trying very hard to be original. And it will need to be to attract a naming sponsor this stadium will really need to stand out.

Great. the french league needs something like this.
Can anyone give some info about the financing?

do they need 60,000?
You're right it seems a little bit small for Lyon...

Budget is estimated to 250 to 300 M euros
1 third naming rights (they have high hopes)
1 third private equity (OL is a succesfull company)
1 third public (department, Lyon Metro, Region)

Yes, OL definitely needs to get a 60000 seater (Lyon is following an Arsenal type business scheme)

Gerland will not be destroyed it will be downsized to 25000 seats and is aimed at supporting the Lou rugby team effort.

Looks nice...any more renderings of the interior?

edited

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2958/14544vf4.jpg
In this pi it looks like the 1st tier is "open"/without roof

i do not like the roof :D

extraordenery

Other pictures of the new stadium of Lyons.:)

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/final_exterior.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/interior.jpg

link---------------->http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/

Budget is estimated to 250 to 300 M euros
1 third naming rights (they have high hopes)
1 third private equity (OL is a succesfull company)
1 third public (department, Lyon Metro, Region)


Lol....does ANYTHING ever get built in France WITHOUT tax payers money.

I've mixed feelings.

Wow, they all wear Juninho jerseys.

Wow, they all wear Juninho jerseys.

the first thing I noticed as well :lol:
Well let's be honest, in 10 years nobody will remember that team, that stadium will remain empty, Lyon has never been known for its football fans

But 60km down the road, St Etienne is thinking of building a new stadium as well, although there are no plans yet, only visions

Is it just me or are most new stadiums basicly at bowl with a fancy roof?

Well let's be honest, in 10 years nobody will remember that team, that stadium will remain empty, Lyon has never been known for its football fans
Oh thank you for being honest, M. Nostradamus.

Anyway, it's a great project, I love it (it's a shame we must read foolish comments each time someone's jealous of a project though...)

I really don't like the idea for the roof but that's just my opinion. And why trying to design it with Emirates stadium as an inspiration ? This stadium is really not that great.
The Dallas Cowboys new stadium now that's something !

Lol....does ANYTHING ever get built in France WITHOUT tax payers money.

I wouldnt be at all supprized if much more than 1/3rd of the cost ends up being covered by the public.

Oh thank you for being honest, M. Nostradamus.

Anyway, it's a great project, I love it (it's a shame we must read foolish comments each time someone's jealous of a project though...)

Who's jealous?
I like the project, and most of all I admire Aulas for doing something everybody else is afraid of doing in France.
But on the other hand, even you with your bias Lyonnais, have to admit that Lyon coming from a footballistic desert, and still having not gone to a simple European semi-final, isn't ready for such a big stadium. If however Perrin manages to do it, then that will open a new era for the club. Until then, this is a really nice project, but somehow not backed by the team's results.

Besides Aulas, Seydoux at Lille is also doing well trying to push for a new big stadium, whether it's public or not, because at least them two know that French football is falling behind other leagues like a rock from a cliff

Like many stadiums the roof seems to have been designed to look nicer from a helicopter than it does from the perspective of someone inside the stadium.

^^well usually in a stadium you're supposed to look down at the pitch, and not at the roof

The roof was extended from its usual purpose to a more flashy sort of glass cover that will appeal for people from outside

I find this view really nice:
http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/final_exterior.jpg

^^well usually in a stadium you're supposed to look down at the pitch, and not at the roof

Of course, but I still think it's a valid comment on the aesthetics of this and many other stadiums.

oh dear 3-0 at home to Rangers today, are Lyon on the wain under Perrin? Nice stadium though, do any other French clubs have big plans?

After all the turmoil of the late fall, it seems OL is back on the top.

For the stadium, a lot of people living in the area of Decine are determined to bare the stadium to be built. Nothing serious has yet happened but those people seems to have potential to make Aulas life a living hell.

I'm surprised that after all this time, no newer pix have appeared.

Why do I think that the final decision will be made after the local elections ?

In Fance it is the same! a lot of associations (green ecology, protectors of historiacl architecture..) try to cancel every projects!!!

Lyon and lille,Valenciennes are concerned!

Why do I think that the final decision will be made after the local elections ?

Sure! The final decision will be REconfirmed after the elections. The 2 mains candidates support both this project.

I would like to have more information, perhaps neda say could help me :
-the field will be the property of OL (they'll buy or already own it)
-the stadium will be built on this field with OL money
-OL will be the sole owner of the stadium and everything that is on this field.

Why do OL need any input of the municipality politicians?

I don't understand.

The Stadium will be the propiety of OL tanks to the enter on the market (100Me) and naming ( LG stadium ? ) ,ol groupe will pay the rest

En fançais ... c est beaucoup plus simple , le stade appartiendra a l'Ol et sera financé par ses fonds propres ( entrée en bourse,namaing+ fons propres et surement un emprunts)
L'OL sera le seul utilisateur de ce projet,meme s il y aura surement d autre manifestations (sportives ou non)
Tout cela differencie ce projet du stade lillois par exemple
enfin comme tout grand projet l OL a besoin des appui politiques locaux ne serait-ce pour calmer les personne contre ce projet...

Yes the lille project like you say is different!! but Lille is more sure about the financement! Aulas has to put all the money to begin building the project!!

Nothing for the moment is confirmed about the modality of raising funds to realize it!

They're waiting after elections to consolidate partnership with the city of Lyon.The location is not their property! That's why they need the approval of urban comunity of lyon!

Is it just me or are most new stadiums basicly at bowl with a fancy roof?
There's only so much you can do with basic form after you account for modern safety regulations, best design practices, etc. If duplication is the sincerest form of flattery, it's safe to say there is something of value to the general form of most football/soccer stadiums being built today. It also appears the two parts of your premise are codependent: To allow for the flexibility in the roof design most facilities must save cost, space, etc in the design of the actual stands (see Liverpool's plans, for example).

I like the stadium overall but I'm missing a few things:
- The idea as I read it is for the stadium roof to reach outside the facility to expand the realm of the fan experience, but I'm not getting what the artistic value of this particular roof design. Why this amorphous shape compared to a more conventional disc or dome? I don't see other elements in the facade or landscape that directly equate to the meaning of the roof's form? Anyone?

- The roofing support beams - Anyone else looking for something more dynamic? No pattern, but not otherwise decorated/structured so as to be more attractive and playful or rendered less visible. They almost look like afterthoughts, as if all the money was spent designing the roof and none leftover for anything but the simplest of columns. Perhaps if they replicated the lighting effect of the smaller lamps shown in the landscape? :?

- The last concourse picture shown doesn't feature restroom facilities or concessions! Am I missing something?

There's only so much you can do with basic form after you account for modern safety regulations, best design practices, etc. If duplication is the sincerest form of flattery, it's safe to say there is something of value to the general form of most football/soccer stadiums being built today. It also appears the two parts of your premise are codependent: To allow for the flexibility in the roof design most facilities must save cost, space, etc in the design of the actual stands (see Liverpool's plans, for example).

I like the stadium overall but I'm missing a few things:
- The idea as I read it is for the stadium roof to reach outside the facility to expand the realm of the fan experience, but I'm not getting what the artistic value of this particular roof design. Why this amorphous shape compared to a more conventional disc or dome? I don't see other elements in the facade or landscape that directly equate to the meaning of the roof's form? Anyone?

- The roofing support beams - Anyone else looking for something more dynamic? No pattern, but not otherwise decorated/structured so as to be more attractive and playful or rendered less visible. They almost look like afterthoughts, as if all the money was spent designing the roof and none leftover for anything but the simplest of columns. Perhaps if they replicated the lighting effect of the smaller lamps shown in the landscape? :?

- The last concourse picture shown doesn't feature restroom facilities or concessions! Am I missing something?


I agree with you! The stadium is only beautiful if you watch it from a ... plane view!!! :bash:

The picks which sustain the roof all round the stadium are just awful in term of design!! You don't see the same at all when you are a bird and ou are human!!

I would prefer a rounder, aesthetic design that this "strange" roof! not the form but the way they realize it!!

save all the roof material that hangs over the edge of the stadium bowl and create a retractable roof.

too late! i don't understand why aulas didn't insist to have a retractable roof!
Winters are cold in Lyon area.. :ohno:

Even with technology these days any form of retractable roof requires a lot of money and can be a b**** to maintain. I like the idea of extending the roof outside the structure, I just simply don't get this particular theme. I don't see the inspiration, I don't see how it ties into the structure... I don't get it. :?

They're waiting after elections to consolidate partnership with the city of Lyon.The location is not their property! That's why they need the approval of urban comunity of lyon!

An approval of the city of Lyon?
What a joke ,the whole town knows how Aulas and Colomb are two hands in the same pocket.
Starts to smell dirty here...

The location of this new stadium sucks.
The chosen location has really nothing to cope with the huge masses it shall bring.
It would have been better at Puisoz or why not next to the small airstrip at Bron?
Frankly the Tola Vologe training grounds nearby the 'old' Gerland stadium are very good aswell, in the future the Confluence will rise out of the ground and this stunning stadium across the riverbanks that could be a great site.

too late! i don't understand why aulas didn't insist to have a retractable roof!
Winters are cold in Lyon area.. :ohno:

The roof was/is not absolutely necessary. Presented an additional cost that was/is open to discussion. They made the right move not to have one. Ground heating and warm air bubble over the pitch on non game day will be sufficient.

I would like to have more information, perhaps neda say could help me :
-the field will be the property of OL (they'll buy or already own it)
-the stadium will be built on this field with OL money
-OL will be the sole owner of the stadium and everything that is on this field.

Why do OL need any input of the municipality politicians?

I don't understand.


Sorry Vilak! I've been pretty busy these days but I see that you got your answer already thanks to Masters At Work.

Maybe the staduilm will have a retractable roof
Aulas want it but it coste 50Me so he doesn't know...
wait and see

The roof was/is not absolutely necessary. Presented an additional cost that was/is open to discussion. They made the right move not to have one. Ground heating and warm air bubble over the pitch on non game day will be sufficient.

do't agree with you!
Don't you see the problems of stade De france?? Lyon is cold in winter! It is difficult to imagine those non sportives spectables which enable to make money!!

I repeat it but the stadium is still a project and the debut of building it isn't determinated for the moment!

Aulas want the stadium for 2010-2012.
Ok but the sponsor isn't defined yet?

Don't forget it's the final project ok but a lot of things must be determined!

Why Aulas did'nt annouced the name of stadium till today althought thhe winner project has been annouced last september (6 month ago)

They want 50 million in naming but for the moment none company has beeen annouced?!!
Strange? :bash:

At least we know for sure this stadium will exist in 4/5 years. that is great.

I don't think the retractable roof is very important.
If you are talking about ohter event like concert, motorcylce race, I think the retractable FIELD is more important, something that will too not happen.
Ok, Lyon winters are cold but not that much...

Wonderful :applause:

don't agree with you!
Don't you see the problems of Stade De france?? Lyon is cold in winter! It is difficult to imagine those non sportive spectacles which enable to make money!!

I repeat it but the stadium is still a project and the debut of building it isn't determined for the moment!

Aulas want the stadium for 2010-2012.
Ok but the sponsor isn't defined yet?

Don't forget it's the final project ok but a lot of things must be determined!

Why Aulas didn't announced the name of stadium till today althought the winner project has been announced last september (6 month ago)

They want 50 million in naming but for the moment none company has been announced?!!
Strange? :bash:


When was Emirates announced, before the project got started or after?!
Winters in Lyon are not as tough as winters in Berlin, Munich, Edmonton, Calgary,Foxboro (Boston), Green Bay, Glasgow... I could keep going for a while but I don't see the point.

They want 50M for naming, that is no cheap money and you don't want just any name on it. I sware to you! You really don't want something like "Dick's Sporting Goods Park" it's funny at the beginning but after a while it's just a bad joke. You want to have a win-win almost symbiotic relation with your naming company. Remember they generally also become your title sponsor.

Aulas right now enjoys a comfy 41000 seater that he can pack up any day. Believe me he isn't in financial trouble. Even while rebuilding the team they are able to lead L1 and have a descent run in the championsleague.

Problems in the Stade de France are terrible really that's why they have so many shows in it! Remember that this stadium will be the OL stadium not the city stadium. Yes he needs city agreements, Yes he'll get some money from Lyon for it, but that's it. OL did all the research and OL will develop it as they please. It's just that simple.

No rush, no worries! Life's Good!

I think when you are under the roof it looks good:
http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/final_exterior.jpg

But when you're approaching the stadium it looks just awful: :ohno:
http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2272/14547pe9.jpg

I agree 100% :okay:

this stadium is not homogeneous!! It depends on your position in the area!
Even under the roof it 's a variable vision because some parts are higher than some others!!!

This design is very ambitious, difficult to perceive in one block! very intriguing...

Actually I disagree with both of you completely :) not because I feel a need to, but because it's actually a matter of taste. I love the approach to the stadium and am not really that much impressed by the rest. It's not important however.

We all know that the extended roof is not really functional. It's not practical- it has a different use. This is the UNIQUE feature of this stadium. Just like Wembley's arch, facade of Allianz (and tens of "immitations/inspirations"). This is the thing that makes this stadium not-like-other-stadiums.

And as much as anyone would disagree- it's very important. Why? Because we all actually discuss this thing and not anything else :) So... the unique feature works. You have to have an opinion on the extended roof structure, cannot pass it without notice. You'll like it or hate it, but will remember it.
Would a retractable roof (instead) be so characteristic? Not a chance. Even though it would be far more practical and would increase the uses of the stadium.

But when you're approaching the stadium it looks just awful: :ohno:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/2272/14547pe9.jpg

This image is just wonderful, finally a decent design ,not a boring one like many other stadiums.I love it!

Wonderful only by .. night!
When in journey i seriously doubt of the same effect could be reproduce. :(
but we have to wait the realization to see if keep its promises..

1st tier won't be covered?
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2958/14544vf4.jpg

it will be covered necesseraly! just an illusion.

look at inside pic and you'll guess everybody is sheltered.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1749/14548tp1.jpg

The artistic side of the stadium is not that much important, and it cost money...

Ok, I'm very happy with this beautiful stadium but the part of the cost that will be used to create this absolutly useless "hat" around the stadium should better be used to have more seat, or to upgrade comfort...

yeah. the outside roof is IMO useless

but a lot of people say it is beautiful... :drunk:

There is some practicality to putting substantial overhang on a roof, especially with a glass enclousure (this is true of any building) as it will shade the south side (or north if you're in the southern hemisphere) of the building from the summer sun which will keep it from substantially raising the interior tempature when you least want it (as well a carrying rainwater away from the edges of the building). Now the astract sort of deconstructuvist nature of the design is purely aesthetic and probably more expensive than a more traditional design.

and you like it or no?

Taxes are baring french clubs to do what they really want so it's hurtfull, in a sense, to see the Mogol Aulas realise whatever he dreams.
now, excluding all financials matters, I love this stadium, really. It looks like a pumped up version of Emirates stadium.

it will be covered necesseraly! just an illusion.

look at inside pic and you'll guess everybody is sheltered.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/1749/14548tp1.jpg

It's only a render !!!!
Final decision hasn't been taken for the roof !!!
http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/Dossier_de_presentation_OL_LAND.pdf
Look at page 10

page 10 "The stadium is made to welcome a retractable roof if the club find it necessary..."

ok! Later but not at the start! I think they 'll add it because it ridiculous to cancel an event (concert) just because of rain in such quality stadium... :lol:
They need money to rationnalize the investment.

Spectators are perfectly sheltered:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5513/lyoncroquiszv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

page 33 ( i added the black line and comment)

The blue arrow is the circuit of noise . Aulas said in september that they used the same technique as the Parc des Princes in paris. He promises a fantastic acoustic ambiance to have the same type of efficient reflecting noise.

page 10 "The stadium is made to welcome a retractable roof if the club find it necessary..."


At least the architecht let place for a certain form of evolution of the stadium.

1st tier ~22°
2nd tier ~29°
3rd tier ~34°
http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/41940/2000456177112902130_rs.jpg
Looks more like +62.000-65.000 to me

How many VIP boxes / suites will it have and dou you know the distance to the pitch?

Numbers:

-Most distant tribune is 15 meter (25 m in actual Gerland stadium)
-Seats = 60000 (51000 grand public, 6000 business, 3000 visitors)
-Height to roof = 48 m
-2 giants screens (12mX6m)

So the endzone stands are 15m away from pitch?
That would be a lot

From a big distance it looks like a big diamond :) ( only at night. ) How many light effects does it have?

LOL i have news from Lyon!!

Aulas expects to have 150 millions euros by naming!!!
:eek: it is 50% the total of investment??!!
Is he crazy?? and the name will be announce in 2009??!! It's impossible in this case to have the stadium before at least 2012! He said he want it for 2010-2011?? Impossible IMO

Could someone give me the part of naming in financement of Emirates or Allianz please??

http://s.olweb.fr/ol/image/phototheque/m2/79/15710.jpg
http://s.olweb.fr/ol/image/phototheque/m2/79/15711.jpg
http://s.olweb.fr/ol/image/phototheque/m2/79/15716.jpg

There have been a couple $400 million dollar naming deals in the US and the new Giants/Jets stadium is expected to crack the $500 million mark, so he may not be totally crazy

Naming rights for Emirates Stadium is approximatively 150M€ for 15 yrs 5.9 M€ a year and 90 M€ for l'allianz arena 6 M€ a year....
For Example Le Mans and its MMA Arena get 1 M€ a year for the naming rights.

Something that I didn't exactly uderstood: Dans l'Hexagone, le prochain accord doit avoir lieu à Lyon, où Sportfive a acheté pour 28 millions le droit de commercialiser les « naming rights » de la future enceinte de l'Olympique Lyonnais

Spectators are perfectly sheltered:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5513/lyoncroquiszv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

page 33 ( i added the black line and comment)

The blue arrow is the circuit of noise . Aulas said in september that they used the same technique as the Parc des Princes in paris. He promises a fantastic acoustic ambiance to have the same type of efficient reflecting noise.

then theres the issue of wind. spectators cant always be perfectly covered unless there is a retractable roof..sun and wind and rain ..the first tier spectator isnt always covered.

Judging by the shape of the roof, don't you think it is hard to believe that a retractable roof can be added?

everything is possible! but at what cost?

28 millions namaing rights??? It's not the name of the stadium but the right to use it?? i don't understand??!! :nuts:

28 millions namaing rights??? It's not the name of the stadium but the right to use it?? i don't understand??!! :nuts:

Yeah I don't Understand if it's Stadium's name or i don't know what lol... sure if it is really 28M€ it's very Low

They said they have a short list for naming and they wait til 2009 to reaveal th final name!

I saw "new" pictures of Lyon's stadium and for my part I think that the roof has changed... it looks like less transparent and has more forms

Arsenal have signed a £100m deal with Emirates Airlines, which will see their new 60,000-seater ground at Ashburton Grove named the Emirates Stadium.
The stadium, which should open in the same season, will take on its new name for the next 15 years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/3715678.stm
£100m = 134.24 mil. euro (am i wrong?)
8,95 Mil. € / year


Millionengeschäft Stadion-Sponsoring: 15 Jahre lang zahlt die Allianz AG sechs Millionen Euro für die Namensrechte am neuen Fußball-Tempel.

http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/tipps-trends/geld-job/topthemen/allgemein/FUSSBALL/stadien-sponsoren/stadien-sponsoren.html

6 Mil. € / year


distance stands-pitch is big
http://s.olweb.fr/ol/image/phototheque/m2/79/15716.jpg
Maybe because of Rugby as a another sport event in this stadium?

Sercan __> 100 million £ ok but the total cost of emirates is around 400 £ no?

It does'nt represent the half of stadium financement but the 1/4. Lyon 150 million expectation is 1/2 . It is important and i doubt a little for the moment that a firm put this on table.
But so many rich companies exists in this world especialy from asia and dubai... everything is possible.

IMO the distance Pitch-stands isn't so big in the new stadium.. it still an improvement in France, we are not in England where a player can smell what the crowd have eat before the game...

Sure if the sponsor is LG, Kia, Sony or anything asian, it will be big money and big boost for the OL buiseness in Asia

FIFA allows +7,5m for the endzone stands
At least 10m would be better than 15m

Lille seems to not have this problem :lol:
i don't know official figures but the distant seems to be decent

Yeah I don't Understand if it's Stadium's name or i don't know what lol... sure if it is really 28M€ it's very Low

Sportfive did not acquire the naming rights, you guys! They acquired only the rights to negotiate the so called rights with the company that will put its name on the stadium. And if Sportfive accepted to pay 28 M just to negotiate them my thinking tells me that they have something big up their sleeve.

Sportfive will want to cover their cost and make a profit of at least 10%. So they would target the 160/180 range over probably 15 to 20 years. That would be quite a big deal for a city like Lyon. for that cost the team will probably sell the front of the jerseys too to the highest bidder.

Great infos from both of you.
Thanks!

Other pictures of the new stadium of Lyons.:)

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/final_exterior.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/interior.jpg

link---------------->http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/

woow...


will France really apply for EURO 2016

By the way when will the constrcution start? According to what I've seen in a lyon fan's blog, the construction is expected to start around 3Q of the year.

By the way when will the constrcution start? According to what I've seen in a lyon fan's blog, the construction is expected to start around 3Q of the year.


:lol: not this year only if you have faith in Santa claus!! :lol:

Aulas has not already all the money and the naming process continues!

Lyon urban community has to vote yet the financement of access road. I think it's for 2009 te beginning of works debuts!

:lol: not this year only if you have faith in Santa claus!! :lol:

Aulas has not already all the money and the naming process continues!

Lyon urban community has to vote yet the financement of access road. I think it's for 2009 te beginning of works debuts!

Thank you, Axelferis. BTW did you find something to criticize? I wonder what stadium will fall prey to your criticism today :lol::lol::lol:

woow...


will France really apply for EURO 2016

Yes they will.

OL Land was listed among Top 10 super stadiums by Forbes. Congratulations to Lyon and its fans!

http://www.forbes.com/2008/03/31/sports-stadiums-yankees-biz-sports_cx_tvr_0331stadiums.html

By the way what about the transportaions around the stadium especially mass transit system like metro, light railway, tram? I think it would be the best to extend metrolines to the stadium in coordination with the city authorities.

130 suites!!!
1 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 241
2 Stade de France 168
3 Wembley 166
4 Estádio da Luz 156
5 Twickenham Stadium 150
6 Emirates Stadium 150
7 OL Stadium 130
8 Millenium Stadium 124
9 Estádio José Alvalade XXI 120
10 White Hart Lane 120
11 New Juventus Arena 120
12 Landsdowne Road Stadium 110
13 Allianz Arena 106
14 Villa Park 104
15 New Bilbao Stadium 100

Great infos Sercan. thank you!

130 suites!!!
1 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 241
2 Stade de France 168
3 Wembley 166
4 Estádio da Luz 156
5 Twickenham Stadium 150
6 Emirates Stadium 150
7 OL Stadium 130
8 Millenium Stadium 124
9 Estádio José Alvalade XXI 120
10 White Hart Lane 120
11 New Juventus Arena 120
12 Landsdowne Road Stadium 110
13 Allianz Arena 106
14 Villa Park 104
15 New Bilbao Stadium 100

Why don't you include Red Bulls Park in your list? It's also a football arena which has no athletics tracks. Maybe you have the minimum requirements for the capacity? ^^

It was just the TOP 15 in Europe :D

1 Estadio Monumental U 1251
2 Estadio Azteca 856
3 Estadio Jalisco 660
4 Texas Stadium 379
5 Absa Stadium 350
6 New Cowboys Stadium 300
7 FedEx Field 243
8 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 241
9 Meadowlands Stadium 217
10 Georgia Dome 203
11 Dolphin Stadium 195
12 Raymond James Stadium 195
13 Reliant Stadium 187
14 Brisbane Cricket Ground 178
15 LP Field 177
16 Lincoln Financial Field 172
17 Suncorp Stadium 170
18 Stade de France 168
19 Lambeau Field 166
20 Wembley 166
21 Ralph Wilson Stadium 164
22 Bank of America Stadium 157
23 Estádio da Luz 156
24 Twickenham Stadium 150
25 Emirates Stadium 150
26 Cleveland Browns Stadium 145
27 McAfee Coliseum 143
28 Superdome 137
29 Soldier Field 133
30 Lucas Oil Stadium 132
31 OL Stadium 130
32 Heinz Field 129
33 Stadium Australia 125
34 Millenium Stadium 124
35 Edward Jones Dome 124
36 Ford Field 120
37 Estádio José Alvalade XXI 120
38 White Hart Lane 120
39 New Juventus Arena 120
40 M&T Bank Stadium 119
41 Giants Stadium 119
42 Paul Brown Stadium 114
43 Quallcom Stadium 113
44 Metrodome 113
45 Landsdowne Road Stadium 110
46 M & T Bank Stadium 108
47 Allianz Arena 106
48 Invesco Field at Mile High 106
49 RCA Dome 104
50 Villa Park 104
51 Pontiac Silverdome 102
52 New Bilbao Stadium 100
53 Estádio do Dragão 96
54 Monster Park 93
55 AAMI Stadium 89
56 University of Phoenix Stadium 88
57 Gillette Stadium 87
58 Amsterdam ArenA 83
59 Qwest Field 82
60 Veltins Arena 81
61 Gillette Stadium 80
62 Arrowhead Stadium 80
63 Olympiastadion Berlin 76
64 Commerzbank-Arena 76
65 Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 75
66 Estadio Vicente Calderón 74
67 Nou Estadio Valencia 72
68 Boleyn Ground 70
69 Weser Stadion 70
70 City of Manchester Stadium 68
71 Telstra Dome 66
72 Stadion Lokomotiv 60
73 Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi 60
74 Subiaco Oval 59
75 Kadir Has Sehir Stadi 52
76 AOL Arena 50
77 RheinEnergie Stadion 48
78 Toyota Park 48
79 Ricoh Arena 46
80 Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion 44
81 Roger Center 43
82 Home Depot Center 43
83 Borussia-Park 42
84 MSV-Arena 41
85 De Kuip 40
86 Néo Stádio Karaïskáki 40
87 Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi 34
88 Volkswagen-Arena 32
89 Red Bull Park 30
90 BMO Field 30
91 Columbus Crew Stadium 30
92 Darlington Arena 30
93 AWD Arena 29
94 The Hawthorns 29
95 LTU Arena 27
96 Estadi Camp Nou 23
97 Dick's Sporting Goods Park 22
98 Robertson Stadium 20
99 Pizza Hut Park 17
100 Olympiakó Stádio Spýros Loúis 16
101 Zentralstadion 16
102 east-Credit Stadion 14
103 Stade de Suisse 13
104 Fritz-Walter-Stadion 12
105 Signal Iduna Park 11
106 St. Jakobs Park Stadion 11
107 BayArena 10

I'm sorry to get you wrong. Your list is really unique and impressive!

Nothing new about the stadium?
when will the building start?

i'm not even sure the location is a lock...

UEFA now ask for 70.000 seats to host a champion league final.
Lyon will never be a 5 star stadium.
Do you think it could make aulas change his mind and add 10.000 seats to the projects?

UEFA now ask for 70.000 seats to host a champion league final.
Lyon will never be a 5 star stadium.
Do you think it could make aulas change his mind and add 10.000 seats to the projects?

Good point!
It depands most of the agreement Aulas has with HOK.
Is there still option to change the plans?
Knowing Aulas, that's something that must bother him as he always think about profit.
So to answer your question, I would say that if all cards are in his hands, yes!

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UEFA now ask for 70.000 seats to host a champion league final.
Lyon will never be a 5 star stadium.
Do you think it could make aulas change his mind and add 10.000 seats to the projects?

In another thread about the Allianz Arena Sercan has pointed out that the 4 and 5 star system has been dropped by the UEFA. Since so many new stadiums are having very good facilities, the UEFA changed the requirements to minimal capacity. This of course because all candidate stadiums will have "state of the art" facilities, so the capacity becomes more and more important.

So to host a CL final the minimum capacity is 70.000 seats. For the UEFA Cup final the minimum capacity is 50.000 seats.
This means that i.e. only the Stade de France in Paris or the Olympiastadion in Berlin can host the CL final if it is given to France or Germany to organise it.

Great Britain, Spain and Italy have better chances with New Wembley in London, Old Trafford in Manchester, Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, New Anfield (if it will be built as a 71.000 seater) in Liverpool, Bernabeu in Madrid (will host a final in 2010), Camp Nou in Barcelona, New Mestalla in Valencia, the Olympic Stadium in Rome (will host the final in 2009 and the San Siro in Milan.

But several developments are underway which will bring more 70.000 + seaters in Europe like the new Feyenoord Stadium in Rotterdam , a possible new Ibrox in Glasgow, upgrade of the Amsterdam Arena, maybe the Velodrome in Marseille. So there will be more Stadiums to choose from in the future.

Actually Allianz has gpt +72k seats.
City just allows 69,901

Actually Allianz has gpt +72k seats.
City just allows 69,901

The 69,901 is the maximum capacity allowed by the city for the Bundesliga games. That number can only be reached if some spectators are standing instead of sitting. The +72k mark is reachable if the city would drop the strict requirements but includes spectators standing instead of sitting.

But as an all seater stadium Allianz Arena has a capacity of about 66,000. And therefore it is too small to host a CL final but a UEFA Cup final is still possible. Too bad that the CL final will never come to München anymore because to me Allianz is a magnificant stadium. Probably the most beautiful in Germany and certainly one of the best in Europe!

So if Lyon wants to host a CL final, they better boost their maximum capacity. If not, only a UEFA Cup final will be possible. The new Lyon stadium looks very nice also in my opinion.

AA has got 72.662 SEATS
1st tier: 23.198
2nd tier: 26.150
3rd tier: 23.314

AA has got 72.662 SEATS
1st tier: 23.198
2nd tier: 26.150
3rd tier: 23.314

Sorry Sercan, this is not correct.

These are the exact numbers:

• Gesamt: 69.901 komplett überdachte Plätze (inkl. Logen und Business-Seats)
• insgesamt 66.000 Sitzplätze (mit Stehplätzen: 69.901)
• unterer Rang: 20.000 Sitzplätze
• mittlerer Rang: 24.000 Sitzplätze
• oberer Rang: 22.000 Sitzplätze
• in Süd- und Nordkurve unterer Rang 13.500 Stehplätze bei Ligaspielen
• 2.200 Business-Sitze und etwa 400 Presseplätze
• 106 unterschiedlich große Logen mit 1.374 Plätzen
• 165 spezielle Sitzplätze für Behinderte auf der Haupterschließungsebene (ohne Ebenenwechsel)

You can verify them here: http://www.allianzarena.de/de/fakten/allgemeine-informationen/index.php

In improvised English for those who do not understand German:

Total: 69.901 completely covered places (incl. Loges and Business-Seats)
• total 66.000 seating capacity (with standing places: 69.901)
• lower tier: 20.000 Seats
• middle tier: 24.000 Seats
• upper tier: 22.000 Seats
• in the South- and Northcurve in the lower tier 13.500 standing places for Bundesliga games
• 2.200 Business-Seats and about 400 press seats
• 106 Loges of different sizes with 1.374 seats
• 165 special seats for disabled spectators on the main exit level (without having to change the level)

EPA, just look at the AA thread :D

It's funny that on Lyon stadium thread the exact number of seats in Allianz Arean is the center of arguments ^^

EPA, just look at the AA thread :D

OK, I have read it. It appears that there is space left for two rows of seats per tier. But have they installed the seats in the extra rows per tier which appearantly did not have the seats installed before? That I did not read in the AA thread. Any regular visiting Bayern or 1860 München fans can help us out here on this issue?

If they did I missed that info. If they did not, than the official numbers are still the correct ones. Anyhow, with UEFA usually following the official number (look at what UEFA says is the official capacity of Estadio Santagio Bernabeu) it is highly unlikely that München will ever see a CL final in the Allianz Arena. No matter how sad that might be.

It's funny that on Lyon stadium thread the exact number of seats in Allianz Arean is the center of arguments ^^

Sorry Carrerra, we just went a bit off topic. The "argument" we are having is just about getting the right data, nothing special or personal. It would be great though if AA would be a 70.000+ seater.

I already wrote that if Lyon wants to host a CL final then they really need to boost their maximum capacity! If not, only a UEFA Cup final is possible here!

IMHO, the data of sercan sounds more convincing. The figures in AA's official site are all thousand's multiples - 20,000/24,000/22,000. In the commen sense chances are slim that the seat numbers of each tier in a certain stadium end with "triple zeros", not double zeros or one zero.

It makes more sense to me that the actual seats are 72,662 but only up to 69,901 people are allowed to enter the stadium by the city authorities for traffic reasons(?).

In conclusion it's waste of money to build additional 2,761 seats to the maximum limitation 69,901. What a pity to Bayern Munchen! Maybe the city authorities should compensate for that loss????? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Sorry Carrerra, we just went a bit off topic. The "argument" we are having is just about getting the right data, nothing special or personal. It would be great though if AA would be a 70.000+ seater.

I already wrote that if Lyon wants to host a CL final then they really need to boost their maximum capacity! If not, only a UEFA Cup final is possible here!

EPA001, it was just a joke. You don't have to appoligize to me :lol:

Boys, it's about Lyon Stadium, not Allianz Arena.
Please argue elsewere! Thanx.

no news ?

It was just the TOP 15 in Europe :D

1 Estadio Monumental U 1251
2 Estadio Azteca 856
3 Estadio Jalisco 660
4 Texas Stadium 379
5 Absa Stadium 350
6 New Cowboys Stadium 300
7 FedEx Field 243
8 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 241
9 Meadowlands Stadium 217
10 Georgia Dome 203
11 Dolphin Stadium 195
12 Raymond James Stadium 195
13 Reliant Stadium 187
14 Brisbane Cricket Ground 178
15 LP Field 177
16 Lincoln Financial Field 172
17 Suncorp Stadium 170
18 Stade de France 168
19 Lambeau Field 166
20 Wembley 166
21 Ralph Wilson Stadium 164
22 Bank of America Stadium 157
23 Estádio da Luz 156
24 Twickenham Stadium 150
25 Emirates Stadium 150
26 Cleveland Browns Stadium 145
27 McAfee Coliseum 143
28 Superdome 137
29 Soldier Field 133
30 Lucas Oil Stadium 132
31 OL Stadium 130
32 Heinz Field 129
33 Stadium Australia 125
34 Millenium Stadium 124
35 Edward Jones Dome 124
36 Ford Field 120
37 Estádio José Alvalade XXI 120
38 White Hart Lane 120
39 New Juventus Arena 120
40 M&T Bank Stadium 119
41 Giants Stadium 119
42 Paul Brown Stadium 114
43 Quallcom Stadium 113
44 Metrodome 113
45 Landsdowne Road Stadium 110
46 M & T Bank Stadium 108
47 Allianz Arena 106
48 Invesco Field at Mile High 106
49 RCA Dome 104
50 Villa Park 104
51 Pontiac Silverdome 102
52 New Bilbao Stadium 100
53 Estádio do Dragão 96
54 Monster Park 93
55 AAMI Stadium 89
56 University of Phoenix Stadium 88
57 Gillette Stadium 87
58 Amsterdam ArenA 83
59 Qwest Field 82
60 Veltins Arena 81
61 Gillette Stadium 80
62 Arrowhead Stadium 80
63 Olympiastadion Berlin 76
64 Commerzbank-Arena 76
65 Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 75
66 Estadio Vicente Calderón 74
67 Nou Estadio Valencia 72
68 Boleyn Ground 70
69 Weser Stadion 70
70 City of Manchester Stadium 68
71 Telstra Dome 66
72 Stadion Lokomotiv 60
73 Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi 60
74 Subiaco Oval 59
75 Kadir Has Sehir Stadi 52
76 AOL Arena 50
77 RheinEnergie Stadion 48
78 Toyota Park 48
79 Ricoh Arena 46
80 Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion 44
81 Roger Center 43
82 Home Depot Center 43
83 Borussia-Park 42
84 MSV-Arena 41
85 De Kuip 40
86 Néo Stádio Karaïskáki 40
87 Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi 34
88 Volkswagen-Arena 32
89 Red Bull Park 30
90 BMO Field 30
91 Columbus Crew Stadium 30
92 Darlington Arena 30
93 AWD Arena 29
94 The Hawthorns 29
95 LTU Arena 27
96 Estadi Camp Nou 23
97 Dick's Sporting Goods Park 22
98 Robertson Stadium 20
99 Pizza Hut Park 17
100 Olympiakó Stádio Spýros Loúis 16
101 Zentralstadion 16
102 east-Credit Stadion 14
103 Stade de Suisse 13
104 Fritz-Walter-Stadion 12
105 Signal Iduna Park 11
106 St. Jakobs Park Stadion 11
107 BayArena 10

Correct me if i'm wrong but I miss the Amsterdam Arena, or its just late and i'm not seeing it.. :nuts:

it's in no. 58

With 7 championship in a row and nothing existing yet that can kick them off the french podium, don't you think that 60K seems a capacity that could quickly became insufficient?

I mean that Lyon, even if its only on the national level, has history, record, support, fame etc so going higher in term of capacity should be though as a serious option.

How much can a club earn through winning Ligue 1 on average? I wonder how the prize money affects building the new stadium for Lyon...

I didn't talk about incomes from winning the championship, I just said that Ol is now on the top of french football and should stay on for a long long time even if they're not champion every years, they surely qualify for CL every year.
In this case, everything is supposed to grow (support, fame etc...).
If it continues, even a 60K seats stadium will someday becomes too small so Lyon should go to 70K at least.

If OL regulary goes far in national and european cups (wich is Aulas DEFINITIVE AND ABSOLUTE GOAL), it will play around 25/30 home games a year with the reasonable possibility to have 15 games sold out and 5 to 10 causing 20 to 50% more demands than tickets available.

I find logic to favor a 70k capacity than a 60K because to sell out a stadium is not necessary to make it a profitable one.

Maybe with the new rules for Champion's league finale (70k ) aulas will want a 70 000 stadium

Maybe with the new rules for Champion's league finale (70k ) aulas will want a 70 000 stadium

The first time he expressed his view in the press about getting a new stadium he said he wanted a 70K seats stadium and that's 4/5 five years ago.
Now he seems to be happy with the 60K complex scheduled.

this new rule for CL finals is another factor that make me think a 70k seater should be wiser.

Maybe with the new rules for Champion's league finale (70k ) aulas will want a 70 000 stadium

How much does it benefit the club to host CL Final in their stadium? Is it worth increasing the capacity by 10K?

Supposing that Aulas decides to enlarge the scale from 60K to 70K and the new stadium hosts CL final approximately 5 times during its useful life(50 years) , at a rough calculation it would cost at least 100M Euros to expand the stadium but can the benefit be bigger than the cost?

In other words, does it benefit Lyon more than 20M Euros every time they hosts CL final?

If I were Aulas I wouldn't make the decision you presume him to make. In my opinion 60K is sufficient for Lyon considering their attendance trend and the size of the region.

For CL Finals only? No you shouldn't spend 100 more millions just to be able to host a final but once those extra seats would be there, it will be positive for OL.

I don't know the price of a seat but let's say that for big matches it is 40 euros. It makes 400.000 extra euros per games.
With the team popularity, there's more than one occasion for the arena to be sold out each year.
There could also be one or two national team games and other events where those 10k extra seats could be used and generate incomes.
Maybe the price for the naming could be higher with the extra seats.

I believe Aulas is a very good businessman so you can be sure he will be able to make a 70K stadium profitable.

Well 10000 extra seats would still cost a whopping 60 million + taxes to build, on top of the current bill.

1 seat = 6000 euros give or take in modern comfy european stadiums

I don't really know if 60 or 70 is better for OL.
But if Neda say numbers are correct, which I believe, I find 60 millions an afffordable sumn for Aulas.

I don't really know if 60 or 70 is better for OL.
But if Neda say numbers are correct, which I believe, I find 60 millions an afffordable sumn for Aulas.

Remember that the cost of the current plan is already around 300 M so that would push things to a minimum of 360. Which could in fact push the thing to 400+ because the engineering would have to be modified same for the ground prep... Shall I remind people that this stadium is to be mostly privately funded. So maybe it's just me but I don't think that you can pull it quite that easily!

Remember that the cost of the current plan is already around 300 M so that would push things to a minimum of 360. Which could in fact push the thing to 400+ because the engineering would have to be modified same for the ground prep... Shall I remind people that this stadium is to be mostly privately funded. So maybe it's just me but I don't think that you can pull it quite that easily!

So 60k is a lock?

So 60k is a lock?

Well as you pointed out! Aulas is a clever business man so maybe he added an extension option to the stadium design! Allianz arena seating was increased by 9000 without touching the stadium main superstructure just a few months after it was delivered cause the club discovered that he could fill it up every single game. Having the stadium ready for expansion doesn't cost as much as adding the seats right away. it takes extra money to have it planed and design but that's it!

Aulas may or may not be aware of that possibility.
As far as I'm concered, it should be great to have this option in the stadium plans.
But is Aulas a foreseeing person?

Aulas may or may not be aware of that possibility.
As far as I'm concered, it should be great to have this option in the stadium plans.
But is Aulas a foreseeing person?

The guy took a team in L2 and made it multiple L1 champ with what 10 consecutive participations to the CL. He built a team so stable that they defy the cycles theory changing coach frequently and still winning championships! Let's give some credit to the man!

It was just the TOP 15 in Europe :D

1 Estadio Monumental U 1251
2 Estadio Azteca 856
3 Estadio Jalisco 660
4 Texas Stadium 379
5 Absa Stadium 350
6 New Cowboys Stadium 300
7 FedEx Field 243
8 Estadio Santiago Bernabéu 241
9 Meadowlands Stadium 217
10 Georgia Dome 203
11 Dolphin Stadium 195
12 Raymond James Stadium 195
13 Reliant Stadium 187
14 Brisbane Cricket Ground 178
15 LP Field 177
16 Lincoln Financial Field 172
17 Suncorp Stadium 170
18 Stade de France 168
19 Lambeau Field 166
20 Wembley 166
21 Ralph Wilson Stadium 164
22 Bank of America Stadium 157
23 Estádio da Luz 156
24 Twickenham Stadium 150
25 Emirates Stadium 150
26 Cleveland Browns Stadium 145
27 McAfee Coliseum 143
28 Superdome 137
29 Soldier Field 133
30 Lucas Oil Stadium 132
31 OL Stadium 130
32 Heinz Field 129
33 Stadium Australia 125
34 Millenium Stadium 124
35 Edward Jones Dome 124
36 Ford Field 120
37 Estádio José Alvalade XXI 120
38 White Hart Lane 120
39 New Juventus Arena 120
40 M&T Bank Stadium 119
41 Giants Stadium 119
42 Paul Brown Stadium 114
43 Quallcom Stadium 113
44 Metrodome 113
45 Landsdowne Road Stadium 110
46 M & T Bank Stadium 108
47 Allianz Arena 106
48 Invesco Field at Mile High 106
49 RCA Dome 104
50 Villa Park 104
51 Pontiac Silverdome 102
52 New Bilbao Stadium 100
53 Estádio do Dragão 96
54 Monster Park 93
55 AAMI Stadium 89
56 University of Phoenix Stadium 88
57 Gillette Stadium 87
58 Amsterdam ArenA 83
59 Qwest Field 82
60 Veltins Arena 81
61 Gillette Stadium 80
62 Arrowhead Stadium 80
63 Olympiastadion Berlin 76
64 Commerzbank-Arena 76
65 Jacksonville Municipal Stadium 75
66 Estadio Vicente Calderón 74
67 Nou Estadio Valencia 72
68 Boleyn Ground 70
69 Weser Stadion 70
70 City of Manchester Stadium 68
71 Telstra Dome 66
72 Stadion Lokomotiv 60
73 Sükrü Saracoglu Stadi 60
74 Subiaco Oval 59
75 Kadir Has Sehir Stadi 52
76 AOL Arena 50
77 RheinEnergie Stadion 48
78 Toyota Park 48
79 Ricoh Arena 46
80 Gottlieb-Daimler-Stadion 44
81 Roger Center 43
82 Home Depot Center 43
83 Borussia-Park 42
84 MSV-Arena 41
85 De Kuip 40
86 Néo Stádio Karaïskáki 40
87 Atatürk Olimpiyat Stadi 34
88 Volkswagen-Arena 32
89 Red Bull Park 30
90 BMO Field 30
91 Columbus Crew Stadium 30
92 Darlington Arena 30
93 AWD Arena 29
94 The Hawthorns 29
95 LTU Arena 27
96 Estadi Camp Nou 23
97 Dick's Sporting Goods Park 22
98 Robertson Stadium 20
99 Pizza Hut Park 17
100 Olympiakó Stádio Spýros Loúis 16
101 Zentralstadion 16
102 east-Credit Stadion 14
103 Stade de Suisse 13
104 Fritz-Walter-Stadion 12
105 Signal Iduna Park 11
106 St. Jakobs Park Stadion 11
107 BayArena 10

Where's Old Trafford Manchester then? It has at least 180 private boxes.

do you have a source?
we couldnt find anything
therefore it isn't in the list

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueGrandStadeSO.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueAerienneNuit.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueAerienneJour.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/Entree.jpg

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueInterieure.jpg

I found out the roof design has changed but personally I prefer the previous version.

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueAerienneNuit.jpg

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/5803/14542er6.jpg

I think the last pics are much better. The roof is way to big in the first version.

I think the change in roof design might be a way of reducing costs, reflecting high steel price in recent days. At a glimpse the previous design would require huge cost for roof.

Material seems also different, dont like the new one at all :ohno:

still do not understand why the roof has got this design
how does it cultivate to this?

It probably got totally redesigned, or they had this more cost effective option as well depending on how much money could be secured for the project. Another possibility is that the original was just to sell the project and the new, more practicle one was the intended one all along.

New renderings are a lot better. Now the roof looks like something of a diamond!

Hey my post got erased! WTF!

Anyway, I was saying that this new roof looks lighter and easier to build than the "first one" probably a whole lot cheaper too. Besides this one looks like a diamond, cut in the middle, so it does create a very nice cocoon effect from the sky ; if all glass it will be stunning at night and at sunset.

I get less and less pleased with this look.
from inside it looks great but I hate this roof. Too large so probably expensive...

This reminds me of a congress centre not a football stadium

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20080528/VueGrandStadeSO.jpg

I don't like the design and it's location

This stadium look like shaktar and allianz arena...

:lol: aulas want to reduce the final price wihich will be with economic crisis higher than the 250-300 millions previously annouced :lol:

The stadium still looks spectacular anyway..

:lol: aulas want to reduce the final price wihich will be with economic crisis higher than the 250-300 millions previously annouced :lol:

The stadium still looks spectacular anyway..

I don't know what to expect from this man.

I think it looks great.
Im just not so sure about those pedestrian ramps leading up to the stadium.

I think it looks great.
Im just not so sure about those pedestrian ramps leading up to the stadium.

I also think it is a useless excess of style.
This money should be saved to fully accomplish Aulas long time dream of having a 70K seats stadium for OL.

soon for OL ? you seem to ignore the problems on this matter! Lyon urban community hasn't decided yet the vote for approval! a lot of decisions still be waited for...

Le président de l'Olympique lyonnais (Ligue 1 de football), Jean-Michel Aulas, a menacé aujourd'hui de quitter le club septuple champion de France si les travaux pour bâtir un stade 60.000 places et un "OL Land" n'ont pas débuté en 2010.

"Si les travaux n'ont pas commencé dans deux ans, année de la Coupe du monde, je quitterai la présidence du club et partirai ailleurs. Si pour des raisons politiques et politiciennes, il faut mener mon projet ailleurs, je le ferai", a-t-il affirmé dans les colonnes du quotidien régional "Le Progrès".

"J'ai déjà investi avec Cegid (l'entreprise dont il est PDG, ndlr), à Londres et en Chine. Je pourrais le refaire avec une équipe de football", a-t-il menacé.

"On pourrait mettre des grues dans sept mois mais l'administration ne suit pas", a fustigé M. Aulas, qui déclare ne pas comprendre pourquoi son projet "OL Land", comprenant, outre un stade de 60.000 places et des installations sportives, un parc de loisirs, une zone commerciale, des hôtels et des bureaux d'affaires, à Décines-Charpieu (est de Lyon), est retardé, par une opposition qu'il estime modeste.

La livraison de ce projet avait été initialement prévue pour l'été 2010 avec un début des travaux en 2008 mais pour l'heure les acquisitions foncières ne sont notamment pas terminées sur le site choisi qui fait débat dans l'agglomération.
Le permis de construire n'est évidemment pas délivré non plus.

source: http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2008/10/01/01011-20081001FILWWW00486-stade-aulas-menace-de-quitter-l-ol.php

long roads for stadiums in france!

English please

soon for OL ? you seem to ignore the problems on this matter! Lyon urban community hasn't decided yet the vote for approval! a lot of decisions still be waited for...

Le président de l'Olympique lyonnais (Ligue 1 de football), Jean-Michel Aulas, a menacé aujourd'hui de quitter le club septuple champion de France si les travaux pour bâtir un stade 60.000 places et un "OL Land" n'ont pas débuté en 2010.

"Si les travaux n'ont pas commencé dans deux ans, année de la Coupe du monde, je quitterai la présidence du club et partirai ailleurs. Si pour des raisons politiques et politiciennes, il faut mener mon projet ailleurs, je le ferai", a-t-il affirmé dans les colonnes du quotidien régional "Le Progrès".

"J'ai déjà investi avec Cegid (l'entreprise dont il est PDG, ndlr), à Londres et en Chine. Je pourrais le refaire avec une équipe de football", a-t-il menacé.

"On pourrait mettre des grues dans sept mois mais l'administration ne suit pas", a fustigé M. Aulas, qui déclare ne pas comprendre pourquoi son projet "OL Land", comprenant, outre un stade de 60.000 places et des installations sportives, un parc de loisirs, une zone commerciale, des hôtels et des bureaux d'affaires, à Décines-Charpieu (est de Lyon), est retardé, par une opposition qu'il estime modeste.

La livraison de ce projet avait été initialement prévue pour l'été 2010 avec un début des travaux en 2008 mais pour l'heure les acquisitions foncières ne sont notamment pas terminées sur le site choisi qui fait débat dans l'agglomération.
Le permis de construire n'est évidemment pas délivré non plus.

source: http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2008/10/01/01011-20081001FILWWW00486-stade-aulas-menace-de-quitter-l-ol.php

long roads for stadiums in france!I recognize the story, similar situations over here (Flanders, Belgium).

A quick translation for Bing222:

Jean-Michel Aulas, the president of Olympique Lyon has threatened to leave the club if construction works on the new stadium have not started by 2010. "If for political reasons I have to take my project elsewhere, I will do it. With CEGID, I already invested in London and China. I could do the same for a football team. We could start within 7 months but the authorities don't cooperate." He doesn't understand why his project, including a 60,000-seat stadium, sports infrastructure, a recreational park, commercial zone and offices is delayed, by an - in his opinion - modest opposition.

The project was initially planned to be terminated by 2010, groundbreaking by 2010, but at this point the grounds - which are subject to debate in the region - have not been aquired yet and, quite logically, the building permit has not been delivered either.

He leaves the cliub or the Club the city?

Bayern ad Beckenbauer said the same to Munih. No new stadium no more FC Bayern München. Just FC Bayern in another city.

The current "Kings of France" really deserve much better and state of the art stadium :okay:

He 'll leave the Club
But I m sure he won't do that...
Another thing,the stadium will have 62 000 , not 6 0000

According to wiki its 62,500 with the possibilty to expand to 80,000
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OL_Land

?
Which one is true?

I love the exterior for this stadium it looks brilliant wasn't to sure about it from the looks of certain pics of it but if it looks like this one then it will be stunning

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/final_exterior.jpg

If I had to change one thing about this stadium it would be that the interior would be 2 tiered rather than 3. The First tier would make up 2/3 of capacity and would have a shallow gradient and at the back of the stand would be a ring of suites. The top tier would have 1/3 of capacity but would be steeper than the first. Sadly all the clubs that want to build 50,000+ stadiums seem to think that means the stadiums has to have a minimum of 3 tiers and that the tiers have to always be the exact copy or roughly the same size.

When is construction expected to begin?

Very nice stadium.
What a shame that even Lyon (500.000 habitants) will have bigger stadium than whole Poland (39.000.000 habitants):/
It will be bigger, better and cheaper than Polish National Stadium

Are there any biggers stadiums in France?

Dredzik - Stade de France and Stade Velodrome have more than 60.000 seats.

thanks Chimaera

According to wiki its 62,500 with the possibilty to expand to 80,000
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OL_Land

?
Which one is true?


I don't believe a second this one!
Possibility to expand to 80k? I've never heard about this even one time so it must be BS!

i call this...BS too :( Wiki is sometimes so sh..t

No possibility to expand to 80 000 that's sure

And what about 62,500?

And what about 62,500?

I'll say doable. pitch lowered! Or pre-planned expansion of the highest tier.
I don't know what to think about the 80000 expansion cause I haven't seen any blue print of the thing since it hasn't been cleared by the city yet!!!!





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I'll say doable. pitch lowered! Or pre-planned expansion of the highest tier.
I don't know what to think about the 80000 expansion cause I haven't seen any blue print of the thing since it hasn't been cleared by the city yet!!!!





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The translation from 60k to 62k must be easy to do but it's the first time I hear this number too...

Whan the stadium will be built it will be a 62000 seats!

happy bithday man! :cheers:

Finally it's will be OK for OL Land in Decines !!

Grands Projets
Grand Stade à Décines: le projet relancé (13/10/2008 )


Après avoir été fortement remis en cause cet été, le projet du Grand Stade de Décines semble finalement en bonne voie. La commission mixte des différents partenaires s'est réunie aujourd'hui, et un protocole a été officiellement signé entre le Grand Lyon, l'Etat, le conseil général, le Sytral et la municipalité de Décines.

D'abord, chacun des partenaires s'est engagé à réaliser des infrastructures garantissant l'accessibilité au stade, qui constituait l'un des points noirs du dossier. L'enveloppe globale d'argent public nécessaire s'élève, pour cette partie, à 180 millions d'euros, dont 60 à 80 millions seront pris en charge par le Grand Lyon. Ensuite, la ligne T2 du tramway sera prolongée jusqu'à Eurexpo, puis un bus permettra de rejoindre le Grand Stade. Cette nouvelle ligne sera tracée en laissant place sur un terre-plein central à des rails de tramways qui pourront être montées dans l'avenir. L'Olympique Lyonnais et le Sytral, autorité organisatrice des transports en commun, mettront en place une billetterie commune.

L'Etat s'engage pour sa part à adapter l'échangeur autoroutier permettant d'entrer dans la ville de Décines. Enfin, le plan local d'urbanisme (PLU) va être révisé à l'horizon 2009, en prenant appui sur trois facteurs déterminants: le projet de loi de financement mixte des infrastructures publiques, le rapport Seguin sur les finances publiques, et la candidature de la France pour accueillir l'Euro 2016. Jean-Michel Aulas espère ainsi voir le Grand Stade sortir de terre en 2013. S'il s'est montré particulièrement satisfait de l'accord enfin signé, le président de l'OL a prévenu que ce projet pouvait être freiné par un contexte de crise particulièrement défavorable.

2013!!!

2013!!!

Yes, a shame.
Please also note that Aulas says the building can be "Slowed down if the financial crisis continue"...

when will they start? 2013? Or will it be finished 2013?

Finished ...
But today they said that OL Group can have difficulty cause of world problemes...

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/images/home.jpg

in video they are showing 62,000 places

unfortunately I don't speak french...

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/

I feel like the gap between pitch and stands got a little bit smaller in the latest renderings than in the previous ones and that's why the capacity increased from 60,000 to 62,000, IMO

When will they start with construction work?

2010 maybe

For the moment the project is in stand-by - A good part of the fans are not agree on the site of construction.
But this not the matter
OL cannot buy a part of the ground because one of owner is not a salesman And as in France the laws are very well, they can make nothing because it is about a private project.And in our country there no obligation of selling for a private project.
So nothing complete before 2013.
The only way i think, is if France get Euro 2016.Then things can change.

Another proof that in our country it is very difficult to build sports installations and even more when they are from private origin.Remember Lille

it seems right now things are not going so well for Mister BigMouth. His team is no longer the untouchable godfather of the league and his megalomaniac project hasn't moved a finger for about a month. Of course, this is the fault of the international crisis because Aulas never does a bad move. Whatever is the truth, it looks as if he lost (temporarily?) the Midas touch.

ok so, some poor quality pics but not seen yet... I think :)

http://www.pixenli.com/image1238973621026353300.html

http://www.pixenli.com/image1238973680008530800.html

http://www.pixenli.com/image1238973698034432600.html

http://www.pixenli.com/image1238973730019060200.html

http://www.pixenli.com/image1238973758017430000.html

http://www.pixenli.com/image1238973787039883800.html

Nice interior. The first tier is a bit small though.

^^
I like the exterior and the roof but the interior is poor. If they build it like that it would be almost impossible to distinguish it between that and the Allianz and it is only going to get worse with numerous other stadiums being built in that style. If they changed the interior to something I like better I would give this stadium a big thumbs up at the moment I am not too sure.

Well it may look like Allianz Arena but seats are going to be red:lol:
In France actually many new stadiums look like each other from the outside, and this one is truly different, so it's great. But if I take your comment, I can say that Lille New stadium will look like Veltins Arena or Strasbourg Eurostadium will be like Juventus Arena inside. Same thing for Emirates Stadium and the Futur Tottenham stadium :)

The exterior is original. It must take a lot of money. Why not use it to iprove to capacity to 70.000 which is the original number Auas wanted fr the new stadium?

According to wiki article its possible to expand to 80k.
Is it true?

expand 80k?? but the stadium doesn't even exist in 60k version lool :lol:

According to wiki article its possible to expand to 80k.
Is it true?

I don't thinks It's possible Judging on the interior pics

According to wiki article its possible to expand to 80k.
Is it true?

I'll answer no because we would have already heard of it since the first renders appeared, and we didn't, so I don't think the project has a "best case" option to add 20.000 seats.

To me its possible when they built a new roof etc.

Very nice. I like it.

i don't understand to this number of 80 whereas the 60 k version don't even exist??!!! :no:

I think some people here need more humility! When you the ridiculous stae of ligue 1 stadium, trust me, a 60k stadium do everything...

It's not certain whether the 62K stadia will be built or not, but some friends are already talking about 80K expansion :nuts:

Latest pictures (From Populous-HOK) The roof seems again to be transparent....


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4824/main5.jpghttp://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8212/main6.jpghttp://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1023/main4.jpg

very strange because last summer they were not transparent any longer

Things change, you know.....

Latest pictures (From Populous-HOK) The roof seems again to be transparent....


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4824/main5.jpghttp://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8212/main6.jpghttp://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1023/main4.jpg

amazing picture ! :nuts:

I love those picture as well

That will be the best stadium in France!

^^ OL Stadium will be great but, I think the best stadium in France will be still the Stade de France : With its 172 suites + 10,000 business seats, its 81,338 seats, the largest videoscreens of Europe, its retractable tiers, its 18 superpillars which support the roof etc etc...

Despite you don't like it, many people love it !

very strange because last summer they were not transparent any longer

Last time I heard it was going to be translucent!

http://ol-land.olympiquelyonnais.com/presse/com-20070920/final_exterior.jpg

I remember this picture it shows the exterior very nicely. I also saw a video that did a run through of the entire stadium and it all looks very high quality but the interior is another cockie cutter design.

Recap of renders :)
BTW its cap. will be 61,556, according the official website.


Tenant: Olympique Lyonnais
Capacity: 61,556 seats (5,100 business seats + 130 suites)
Opening: 2013
Cost: €400-450M
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells)
Rainwater collection system

(Euro 2016 candidate Stadium)


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8426/02schemaamenagement.jpghttp://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7930/1ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6253/plandemasse.jpghttp://img244.imageshack.us/img244/8629/5ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2091/21ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6250/20ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2825/19ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6245/vueaeriennesud.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5449/3ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2817/4ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8260/2ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2774/15ollandprojet2011copie.jpg



Exterior (oldest to newest)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5240/9ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7679/8ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1246/18ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8639/17ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9830/18collandprojet2011copi.jpghttp://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1715/18bollandprojet2011copi.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/556/main4copie.jpghttp://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8212/main6.jpghttp://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4824/main5.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/593/6ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6176/10ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9868/13ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4267/16ollandprojet2011copie.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6917/13bollandprojet2011copi.jpghttp://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4536/16bollandprojet2011copi.jpg



Interior
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2299/11ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3333/11bollandprojet2011copi.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9009/7ollandprojet2011copie.jpghttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3352/12ollandprojet2011copie.jpg



Videos
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Did the construction start?



Lyon is my favorite European club.

one of the two best projects of stadiums in France! Guess which is the other :cheers:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2825/19ollandprojet2011copie.jpg

Thats a very American bowl design.

one of the two best projects of stadiums in France! Guess which is the other :cheers:

Arena 92.

Wow awesome stadium. The only thing i dont like is the poles on the exterier under the roof. Kind of reminds me of Metalist Stadium. But never the less a spectacular future stadium for France :)

one of the two best projects of stadiums in France! Guess which is the other :cheers:


Arena 92.

:lol: :runaway:

I really like the shape of the bowls. Simple but interesting at the same time. Exterior has the chance to look magnificent as well.

:lol: :runaway:

Priceless:lol:

Wow, I really like it.

Shame though that it's in the middle of a park and all. I think stadiums should be built with the city surrounding it so you can sit at a pub and go when the game is about to start.

Wow, I really like it.

Shame though that it's in the middle of a park and all. I think stadiums should be built with the city surrounding it so you can sit at a pub and go when the game is about to start.

nowadays it's a big problems to have stadiums in the centre of cities! The location is good . they just need to put the right way of moving toward it!

nowadays it's a big problems to have stadiums in the centre of cities! The location is good . they just need to put the right way of moving toward it!

Whats the problem? Alot of great stadiums are in the middle of the city; Bernabeu, Emirates, Camp Nou etc.

Parking is needed but that can be built under the stadium.

The thing with all the park and greenery is bogus.

no no!! old stadiums are built into cities!!

Nex stdiums are out the centre! it is a question of intelligence

^^ What are you trying to say?

That he's intelligent.

It's often easier to build new stadiums on the outskirts of populated areas because there is more space to work with. Older grounds surrounded by tight terraced streets do have something special about them though.

^^ What are you trying to say?

if you want enough parkings and commercial surroundings the stadium it is logical to put the thing outside the heart of city no?

just clever...

New renders:

Tenant: Olympique Lyonnais
Capacity: 61,556 seats (5,100 business seats + 130 suites)
Opening: 2013
Cost: €400-450M
Renewable energy (photovoltaic cells)
Rainwater collection system

(Euro 2016 candidate Stadium)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2553/4adde6a5d683folext360hi.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2971/4adde6c7ef4aeolshotnort.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6987/4adde67f0d2a3olext220hi.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/365/4adde72e5ee41olland1.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8872/4adde7564d408olland3.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4593/4adde6e3c15afolspectato.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8564/capturedcran20091022160.jpg

Like the colour sheme but the tiers look a bit messy (I guess the suites have to go somewhere though).

http://www.grandstadeol.com/media/4/a/d/4adde65658623,ol_aerial_hires.jpg
http://s.olweb.fr/ol/image/article/illustration/hd/257/51328.jpg

http://www.grandstadeol.com/documentation/

The interior of this is the definition of cookie cutter it looks like the Allianz in red + blue.

this place looks stupid.

this place looks stupid.

:) can you develop?

I hope this stadium is getting build very soon. It's good for OL, the region (concerts, ...), candidate for France if they get Euro 2016 and some European Finals.
If France get the EC it would be one of my favorite venues.

Looks a bit different than others that are coming out. I like it. The color scheme is like Nou Camp's. More white seats would be preferred.

I think no one posted this link before...
It's a nice "3-D" view and "feel free to move and go around the stadium as you want" program from the website of the project:
http://immersive-solutions.panthercustomer.com/PROD/OL/iframe.html
Have fun!

OMG, this 3D animation is absolutely faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantasticccccccccccccccccccccc

I think no one posted this link before...
It's a nice "3-D" view and "feel free to move and go around the stadium as you want" program from the website of the project:
http://immersive-solutions.panthercustomer.com/PROD/OL/iframe.html
Have fun!


Really great job.
Thank you for the link.
The stadium is awesome but I still dislike the roof which cost could have be saved to had 5/10 k seats

Really great job.
Thank you for the link.
The stadium is awesome but I still dislike the roof which cost could have be saved to had 5/10 k seats

I quite agree with lots of people there...the project is nice (at least compared to what currently exist in France), but for that price they could have had something better, in term if design and capacity...those HOK stadiums really all look the same...

One thing I'm quite worried about this stadium (although I'm not from Lyon and I don't know the city really well) is the distance from Lyon center and the accessibility by public transports...I have a strange feeling that this stadium could become a Stadio delle Alpi II if you see what I mean...

I had the same worries about the Eurostadium project in strasbourg, which was planned to be a bit outside the city, with long and difficult public transport access from the city, and not with a huge amount of parking places...I still think that incity stadia are better...

I think no one posted this link before...
It's a nice "3-D" view and "feel free to move and go around the stadium as you want" program from the website of the project:
http://immersive-solutions.panthercustomer.com/PROD/OL/iframe.html
Have fun!


Thanks for quoting the link, which is also available on Olympique Lyonnais new website :
http://www.grandstadeol.com

You can visit the future stadium full screen, use the interactive minimap to reach selected points of interest as VIP hospitalities, restaurant, or changing rooms, or just walk around anywhere you wish.
You also have the possibility to capture some screen shot into the application and mail it to your friends which is a nice feature :)
http://www.grandstadeol.com/media/4/a/d/4adde6fb80f3b,ol_vestiaire_hires.jpg
http://www.grandstadeol.com/media/4/a/d/4adde65658623,ol_aerial_hires.jpg

The future stadium will have no secret for you. Enjoy!

A new render:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/207/100324perspectivebuffi.jpg

^^So when will they start to build? A club like Lyon who is constantly in the champions league need a great stadium as well.

Don't be impatient. They will start within the century LOL

i heard it will be ready in 2013?, they will need to start soon if its gonna be ready for then

i heard it will be ready in 2013?, they will need to start soon if its gonna be ready for then
The construction should start at the beginning of 2011. J-M Aulas want the opening to be the 8 december 2013.

OMG, this 3D animation is absolutely faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantasticccccccccccccccccccccc


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