The following was posted on Sep. 20, 2007 on the following website of an Israeli newspaper: www.globes.co.il.

"Tshuva to build Manhattan’s tallest residential building:
Yitzhak Tshuva’s project will top the 72-story Trump World Tower."

Ariel Rosenberg 20 Sep 07 19:00

Yitzhak Tshuva’s private real estate arm Elad Properties is planning to build Manhattan’s tallest residential skyscraper, which will be one of the tallest buildings in the world. He is apparently taking to heart the words of the Leonard Cohen song, “I’ll Take Manhattan”.
Elad will invest $450 million in the One Madison Avenue building, fronting Madison Square Park and East 23rd Street, adding floors to the 17-story New York City landmark. The result will be a 74-story skyscraper that will by 900 feet (274 meters) tall. The building will top the 72-story 262 meter Trump World Tower. The 283-meter tall 70-storey Trump Building, an office building on Wall Street, will still be higher than Tshuva’s new development however. Only two residential skyscrapers in Australia - the Q1 Tower in Gold Coast, Queensland, and Melbourne’s Eureka Tower - will top One Madison Avenue.

lookin good

render ?

"[...] which will be one of the tallest buildings in the world [...]" (Ariel Rosenberg)

What year does this supposed "journalist" live in? :crazy: Nothing under 400 m is remarkable anymore as "one of the world's tallest" in this era when projects for five-hundreders, six-hundreders and over are popping around day in day out. A 274-er might rather be called a dwarf nowadays. I'd even label it a mere highrise building rather than a skyscraper.

It seems this guy hasn't yet heard of Burj Dubai, since he mentions Q1 and Eureka towers as "the only two rivals" of this new residential "tallest". So easy to be a "journalist" these days; seems they no longer find it necessary to check even a pair of basic facts about the news they "report". Being sensationalistic about "a new tallest" is more profitable than taking the time and trouble to do one's job properly. :ohno:

"[...] which will be one of the tallest buildings in the world [...]" (Ariel Rosenberg)

What year does this supposed "journalist" live in? :crazy: Nothing under 400 m is remarkable anymore as "one of the world's tallest" in this era when projects for five-hundreders, six-hundreders and over are popping around day in day out. A 274-er might rather be called a dwarf nowadays. I'd even label it a mere highrise building rather than a skyscraper.

It seems this guy hasn't yet heard of Burj Dubai, since he mentions Q1 and Eureka towers as "the only two rivals" of this new residential "tallest". So easy to be a "journalist" these days; seems they no longer find it necessary to check even a pair of basic facts about the news they "report". Being sensationalistic about "a new tallest" is more profitable than taking the time and trouble to do one's job properly. :ohno:

Burj Dubai is a mixed used tower...

"[...] which will be one of the tallest buildings in the world [...]" (Ariel Rosenberg)

What year does this supposed "journalist" live in? :crazy: Nothing under 400 m is remarkable anymore as "one of the world's tallest" in this era when projects for five-hundreders, six-hundreders and over are popping around day in day out. A 274-er might rather be called a dwarf nowadays. I'd even label it a mere highrise building rather than a skyscraper.

It seems this guy hasn't yet heard of Burj Dubai, since he mentions Q1 and Eureka towers as "the only two rivals" of this new residential "tallest". So easy to be a "journalist" these days; seems they no longer find it necessary to check even a pair of basic facts about the news they "report". Being sensationalistic about "a new tallest" is more profitable than taking the time and trouble to do one's job properly. :ohno:

He was suggesting that it will be one of the tallest residential structures in the world, as opposed to office or mixed use.

I hope they don't build a random tower.

^^Well I hope so. It'll really stand out from around there.

Burj Dubai is a mixed used tower...

So? As far as I know, BD will have residential areas in its upper part, which means on over double the number of floors (~150th) and almost thrice as high (~750 m) as the highest residential areas in this new 274-m 74-fl "residential tallest".

He was suggesting that it will be one of the tallest residential structures in the world, as opposed to office or mixed use.
He phrased it as "one of the tallest buildings in the world", which this one doesn't even come close to, and in any case there are several supertall residential towers under construction or approved in Dubai alone such as Elite Residence (~380 m) and DAMAC Heights (~450 m) which far surpass the ridiculous 274 m of this one.

^Would you like some cheese with your whine?


Anyways, I never heard of this project. Wonder what it will look like.

^^ I'm not a wine-whine merger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonological_history_of_wh#Wine-whine_merger), so the pun doesn't work for me. :tongue:

Isn't the 76-story Beekman Tower in Lower Manhattan supposed to be around the same height too? Thank you, Frank. It's u/c, but there's no final design yet. And I wonder how tall 50 West Street wil be. Most likely around 800'.

Isn't the 76-story Beekman Tower in Lower Manhattan supposed to be around the same height too? Thank you, Frank. It's u/c, but there's no final design yet. And I wonder how tall 50 West Street wil be. Most likely around 800'.

76 Beekman is slightly shorter. According to the DOB website, it's 867 feet tall. Apparently though, buildings are often 30-40 feet taller in reality than the DOB site provides for.

So? As far as I know, BD will have residential areas in its upper part, which means on over double the number of floors (~150th) and almost thrice as high (~750 m) as the highest residential areas in this new 274-m 74-fl "residential tallest".


He phrased it as "one of the tallest buildings in the world", which this one doesn't even come close to, and in any case there are several supertall residential towers under construction or approved in Dubai alone such as Elite Residence (~380 m) and DAMAC Heights (~450 m) which far surpass the ridiculous 274 m of this one.

You just answered your own question on point one. A residential building (only) and mixed use building are 2 different things. And on your second point the comma before the sentence you originally noted is implying that the journalist meant that this would be one of the tallest residential buildings in the world.

This awesome building by de Portzamparc is about to rise a few streets away from One Madison:

http://www.lexpress.fr/mag/arts/dossier/architecture/images/400park200.jpg

You just answered your own question on point one. A residential building (only) and mixed use building are 2 different things. And on your second point the comma before the sentence you originally noted is implying that the journalist meant that this would be one of the tallest residential buildings in the world.
The quote is: "Yitzhak Tshuva’s private real estate arm Elad Properties is planning to build Manhattan’s tallest residential skyscraper, which will be one of the tallest buildings in the world". The comma doesn't turn "one of the tallest buildings in the world" into "one of the tallest residential buildings in the world". The journalist was just looking for a sensational piece of news, and tried to pass this project off as "one of the tallest buildings in the world", using the trick that (he thought) it would be one of the tallest residentials. But neither it is anywhere close to being "one of the tallest buildings in the world", being only one third as tall as Burj Dubai, nor is it even remarkable anymore among the tallest residentials, since real residential supertalls that will dwarf projects like this are already going up in places like Dubai (and probably there are at least a handful other residential supertalls being planned in Chinese cities, but it's hard to follow all the hundreds of skyscraper projects already going on in China to say for sure, especially since China's current lion's share in the skyscraper market is rather underrepresented in this forum).

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¥ € $ - Learn. Practice. Trade.JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Real estate company Elad Group, owned by Israeli billionaire Yitzhak Tshuva, plans to build New York's tallest residential building in a $450 million deal, an industry source said on Thursday.

Elad, which also owns New York's Plaza Hotel, plans to construct an additional 75 floors on top of an existing 20-story building, said the source, who asked not to be named.

Elad officials were not immediately available for comment.

The Madison Avenue building will stand 274 meters (899 feet) tall.

Building plans are currently being examined by the New York City municipality and are subject to regulatory approval, Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth said.

Anyway we are still not sure where this 'new' tower is going to be built on.


What the 'site' looks like right now.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/117819993_184e8c2d11_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1229/1320388975_38e0c2c982_o.jpg

Anyway we are still not sure where this 'new' tower is going to be built on.


What the 'site' looks like right now.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1229/1320388975_38e0c2c982_o.jpg

^^ actually, i believe that the 'new' tower will be built ON TOP of the building left from the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower. it was to be built during the 1930's to surpass the ESB and become the new wtb. but the great depression forced the developers to only put a fraction of the floors originally planned. so i'm guessing that this building was built with enough plumbing, structural support, electrical wire, elevators, etc to add on alot more floors and be finished with its full potential.

^^ actually, i believe that the 'new' tower will be built ON TOP of the building left from the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower. it was to be built during the 1930's to surpass the ESB and become the new wtb. but the great depression forced the developers to only put a fraction of the floors originally planned. so i'm guessing that this building was built with enough plumbing, structural support, electrical wire, elevators, etc to add on alot more floors and be finished with its full potential.

Yes, I recall seeing that building thinking, "hmmmm, that really has potential". :okay:

I am thrilled to know that this "potential" will finally be realized.

Let's hope that the design is as beautiful as the recently complete Hearst Magazine Tower (which was also built on top of a pre-exisiting structure). :yes:

cool, a new tall tower for new york. please build it, new york needs it!!

cool, a new tall tower for new york. please build it, new york needs it!!
The best part, the existing structure supports the height and does not need to be dismantled - thus providing a speedy construction. :banana:

^^ actually, i believe that the 'new' tower will be built ON TOP of the building left from the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company Tower. it was to be built during the 1930's to surpass the ESB and become the new wtb. but the great depression forced the developers to only put a fraction of the floors originally planned. so i'm guessing that this building was built with enough plumbing, structural support, electrical wire, elevators, etc to add on alot more floors and be finished with its full potential.

I don't think it will be built upon this. The developer doesn't even own this site. It will be built on the lowrise structure adjacent to the clocktower which is on 23rd Street between Madison and Park Ave. South.

Just a few days ago i was thinking of the Metropolitan Life, addition of 1928 (the giant building to the left) it currently has 27 floors, and i would not doubt almost a million sq.ft. of space, this tower will not be built on this building, as i believe the article said it's to be built on a 17 story building fronting Madison Square park or One Madison Sq.

However, the 27 story building was designed to be (originally) 125 floors, and surpass the then uncompleted Empire State Building.

So a few days ago i was thinking, originally this structure was (is) a self supporting load bearing steel frame, along with the weight of a masonry curtain wall, with all the modern structural technology, lightweight steel, and concrete, diagonal bracing, and trusses, this thing could easily handle another 120 to 150 floors, now that would be interesting to see.!!!

That would be really interesting the see the renders of what that building would have looked like had it been completed back in the 30's

That would be really interesting the see the renders of what that building would have looked like had it been completed back in the 30'sAnd here it is... the early 1930s MetLife plan for the 1312' (400 metres) tower.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/WKirkwood/Skyscrapers/MetLifeNorth1930s400m1312.jpg

would've been EPIC

^^ It's not too late for a developer to come along and design something.

^^ It's not too late for a developer to come along and design something.

With something like this, i'd like to see the stone gradually,(as it rises) turn into glass, with the same profile as the rendering, (a little taller of course) with a longer shaft of building, like the ESB. carefully done this thing could be 150 storys.!!!

I wonder if that is the plan for this 900 footer, to intagrate it with the older structure.?

hahaha I really thought they were knocking down the Met tower I was about to have a heart attack

Met Tower was the first skyscraper over 200m, Ny would never destroy it i think :)

And here it is... the early 1930s MetLife plan for the 1312' (400 metres) tower.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/WKirkwood/Skyscrapers/MetLifeNorth1930s400m1312.jpg

Whoa, that is a great pic. Can't believe that there was a 1300 footer planned there.

i luv the look of that tower.........

^^ SheistbugzzNY, why do you create a new thread?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=528659

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b177/fashionking615muah/1320388975_38e0c2c982_o.jpg

This building is being advertised as One Madison Park in the October 2007 issue of W magazine. It says the residences start at $6.9 million dollars and there website is onemadisonpark.com. I kind of made an outline where the building is located its right to the left of the tree line brownstone street level buildings.. if that helped. and that height is not accurate sorry..

^^ That is not the building been proposed on this thread. That is this one that is under construction...

http://www.pbase.com/image/77304550.jpg http://wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4901&d=1190477424

well excuse me you don't seem like you know whats going there either....you say your even from new york...eeek sorry

^^ hmmm, what? The building you outline is not the one been proposed on this thread. It looks just like the renderings I posted, is it not? Then it is not the building we are talking about on this thread.

On September 20, 2007, an article by Ariel Rosenberg at www.globes.co.il said that "Elad Properties is planning to build Manhattan's tallest residential skyscraper" and "will invest $450 million in the One Madison Avenue building, fronting Madison Square Park and East 23rd Street, adding floors to the 17-story New York City landmark," adding that the result will be a 74-story skyscraper that will be 900 feet tall."

That same day, a Reuters article said Elad planned to construct an additional 75 floors on top of an existing 20-story building and this report led to speculation on the Internet that Elad might be planned to build atop the MetLife Annex building that occupies the entire block between Madison Avenue, Park Avenue South, and 24th and 25th Streets and is notable for its scalloped facades and the fact that the Depression stopped construction at about the 30th floor although the building was planned by architect Harvey Wiley Corbett to be 100 stories high.

Is this two different towers or are they talking about the same building. kind of confusing 74 floors, now 75 floors and dont forget about the one under constuction. what the hell going on at one madison?

Any renderings yet?

This beauty just up the street from the proposed Liebeskind tower starts construction this January:
http://www.pbase.com/image/56132376
http://www.lexpress.fr/mag/arts/dossier/architecture/images/400park200.jpg.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/image/56132377.jpg

I cant see what you tried to post.

The new tower would rise on the righthand side of the building here (viewed from 23rd Street)...

OCTOBER 20, 2007

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/87694321/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/87694323/large.jpg

Would this be Dan's first real skyscraper in the city? Is Libeskind on it?

Nice proposal, but I do not want this residential tower built. I would rather revive the 100-story Metropolitan Life North Building by adding 70 stories to the building in its existing facade.

And here it is... the early 1930s MetLife plan for the 1312' (400 metres) tower.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/WKirkwood/Skyscrapers/MetLifeNorth1930s400m1312.jpg


Too bad. That would have been a good looking headquarters for Met Life. The old Pan Am building they're in now is ugly.

Proposed Met Life building (1913) = :puke:

Too bad. That would have been a good looking headquarters for Met Life. The old Pan Am building they're in now is ugly.

I would not say "ugly", but rather, a period piece with significance, for example, at the time of it's construction (1960 to 63) it was the largest privately owned office tower in the world, (second only to the Pentagon) with a total of 3.5 million sq. ft. of space, and almost 70.000 sq. ft. per floor, and a height of 808'. but the most intresting aspect of the tower was how the footings and foundation were constructed over and around the Grand central station subgrade rail lines, (26 tracks on two levels) also the iron of the tower was brought to the site by rail, and lifted from railroad flat cars directly, the only time this ever happened in NYC constructon.

I do argree that finishing the original plan of the Metropolitan life tower would have been awesome, but i'll bet it did not have 3.5 million sq. ft. But i'm sure that in the near future, (within 10 years anyway) someone will come up with a plan to extend and complete the existing building.

The quote is: "Yitzhak Tshuva’s private real estate arm Elad Properties is planning to build Manhattan’s tallest residential skyscraper, which will be one of the tallest buildings in the world". The comma doesn't turn "one of the tallest buildings in the world" into "one of the tallest residential buildings in the world". The journalist was just looking for a sensational piece of news, and tried to pass this project off as "one of the tallest buildings in the world", using the trick that (he thought) it would be one of the tallest residentials. But neither it is anywhere close to being "one of the tallest buildings in the world", being only one third as tall as Burj Dubai, nor is it even remarkable anymore among the tallest residentials, since real residential supertalls that will dwarf projects like this are already going up in places like Dubai (and probably there are at least a handful other residential supertalls being planned in Chinese cities, but it's hard to follow all the hundreds of skyscraper projects already going on in China to say for sure, especially since China's current lion's share in the skyscraper market is rather underrepresented in this forum).

The tallest residential tower (even taller than any in dubai or china) is che Cgicago Spire. No doubt on that.

Proposed Met Life building (1913) = :puke:

when it would have been build in 1913 you would have a different opinion about it now :D

^^ Hey man, you never know... Most Parisians hated the Eiffel Tower when it got built, so I'm not sure you're correct in your assessment there... :)

^^ It's not too late for a developer to come along and design something.

I'd like if they simply finished it in the original way it was designed!!

- Andy

^^ Hey man, you never know... Most Parisians hated the Eiffel Tower when it got built, so I'm not sure you're correct in your assessment there... :)

right, but today the tower would be one of the most famous towers on earth ( like the ESB now is )

Indeed... I would love it! :)

Maybe they will extend it with a glass tower, something like the Hearst building.
Lately you see it all the time where the facade of the previous building on the
site is incorporated into the new design.
In this case the foundation and the first 30 floors are already there.